From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 08:02:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19537 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 08:02:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 19527 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 08:02:52 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 08:02:52 -0000 Received: from AtheistJon@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vMOWa21956 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:01:45 -0500 (EST) From: AtheistJon@aol.com Message-ID: <87878fb0.370327e9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:01:45 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Awesome Raver Website Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Everybody! Sorry I haven't been able to write for a while, I hope no one missed me too badly. Anyways I was checkin out dis site on these fine raver chicks (my kinda ones too at least I hope so) Latez, Jon Click Here: Candyravers from around the world From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 08:28:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27752 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 08:28:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 27742 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 08:28:49 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 08:28:49 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vEOPa09488 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:28:10 -0500 (EST) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <8d7ab13b.37032e1a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:28:10 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TheGodQ?PostFlamers,KeepingTheListPositive&ThanksToLara! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't know, maybe IM being a little late here responding to this post. I saw Atheist John's posts and didn't care to read them. I thought there was a debate about atheism, and I didn't feel like going there. Debating about the existence of God is like debating whether purple is really purple in the parallel universe. To me it's such a waste of precious brain energy, and I didn't want to waste mine on a subject that to me, science isn't advanced enough to answer, one way or another with demonstrative and imperical evidence. We may, 100 years or a 1,000 years from now answer the God question. But for now, deism and atheism are still confined in the realms of theories, speculations, postulations, philosophies, and one's own personal faith and spiritual experiences, mine happening to be Buddhist. All just as important as the other. This God question being like the obelisk the space travelers discovered on the moon in the movie, "2001, A Space Odyssey" not obtainable until man is advanced and enlightened enough to find it. Maybe that is the way God or Goddess intended it to be. But until we are advanced enough to find that spiritual obelisk, what is important isn't so much in do you believe in God or not, but do you love others the way God say's he/she does? Believing in God doesn't necessarily make you into a better person. Being an atheist doesn't necessarily make you into a smarter or more educated person either. People have killed each other over the God speculation. People have been killed for not believing in God or not believing in the so called "true" God, or "right" God. People have been killed for believing in God. So, understanding all of this, the metaphysical speculation hasn't helped man too much in his advancement, but has been in a major way, the seed, soil, water and sunshine of his barbarism. What will cause man evolve and eventually be enlightened and ego free enough to discover that obelisk, will not be found in being a deist or an atheist, but in being a humanist. Anyone can be a humanist, atheist as well as the deist. That is what make's our atheism or deism palatable and life friendly. This is my view on this matter. It may not be others, but no less provable or UN-provable as anyone else's theories. We will find out someday when we find that spiritual obelisk, if we don't destroy each other by then; If humanism doesn't enrich and civilizes our beliefs. But anyway, I started reading the other posts about him and about Lara and her personal debate on whether he should be removed from the list. So, I went and read some of the posts he wrote that I didn't happen to delete, the stuff about wanting to go to a rave because he got his welfare check, and about loosing his job as a toll collector to a bunch of Asians. What an imagination! My thought, here's another StiCtLyNyC type trying to get attention by instigating and provoking. He and his types, remind me of a program on PBS about Chimpanzees. There was this one chimp who started to scream and run all over the place. He tore branches off trees and threw them and rocks around the other tribe members, getting everyone upset, hysterical and screaming. When he finally got everyone upset and hysterical to his satisfaction, he kicked back and observed all the mayhem he started to his delight. It was his way to try to get attention and respect from the other tribe members. To feel powerful and in control of something. We have adapted that behavior too in our evolution. We call it ego and the need to inordinately defend and protect it. To people who are insecure about themselves, who don't feel too powerful and are obsessed in the need of feeling powerful and in control. They depend on their ego to make up for the self esteem and power deficit they have. People who are secure and at peace within themselves are self satisfied. They have no need to defend anything, nothing to prove, no one to be powerful over or more powerful than, and have no one to impress or control. So, you have people who instigate and provoke on the list. They try racism, sexism, gay bashing, anything to get a rile out of people, to get the tribe (SFRaves) upset and hysterical, so they can kick back on the side and see all the commotion they have started, and get high on the feeling of being powerful and in control of a situation, and being noticed. A lot of people do that in other various ways. Some people, for instance, are attracted to Fundamentalist or Pentecostal Christianity because of the belief that they are "saved" and everyone else is miserable and damned to hell. This sect of Christianity make's them feel powerful and superior, and massages their insecurities. Many go out on the streets and preach, not to spread love and hope, but to provoke, so as to feel powerful and special. Many people are attracted to way out there other religious cults and extreme political organizations for the same reasons. Now, this is not to offend sincere religious or spiritual conversions or Christians in general. But to point out that some people are attracted to cults and extreme beliefs (not to necessarily imply that all fundamentalists and Pentecostals are cultists) in order to get attention, feel powerful and to feel secure. Any religion or beliefs can be taken to extremes or excesses. So for people like AthestJohn, I find the best remedy is to ignore them as much as possible. That's why we have the delete button. I know the tendency when you are terribly offended because your race, or sexuality was attacked and belittled to respond in an all out nuclear attack. Fuck flaming, this is war! It's so hard to not respond back, but to just delete those offensive posts and to bless the offender. I guess in situations like these, it take's a lot of discernment and self discipline when to reply to offensive statements and when to just ignore them. Just like pat them on the head and smile and tell them. "that's nice, I wish you PLUR", and walk away. Some people are just ignorant, and some people are just attention seekers. Some people say and do what they say and do because they are ignorant and don't know any better. While there are people who say and do what they say and do because they do know better, and are insecure and weak, and need attention and to feel powerful over others and in control. The ignorant need to be educated and corrected, while the attention seekers need to be ignored a lot of times, as long as they don't hurt anyone or go too far with things so that they may be able to grow up, and then be then be educationable. I think, in most cases, the best thing for us to do when an attention seeker comes on the list and starts throwing sticks and stones to provoke is to ignore them. If this person really offended you, mail Lara privately and complain, rather than to help start another flame war and bring the list down, scare and repulse fellow raver family members away from the list, and make the original flamer happy and thinking he or she got their tweek like attention and power rush. I think there are a lot of positive people on this list who can help counteract any negativity that is posted, and to keep things positive. When someone comes on and starts to spread negativity, we need to stand up for each other and this list and defend it, not so much with counter strikes on our own, but by overwhelming the negative with the positive. I believe 90% or more of the people on this list are kwel and nice people. And I also think the negative attention seekers types are a small minority on this list too. IM not about to let this small group of people pull this list down and drive me away. I love this list too much and the people on it to let it become a war zone and a hang out for negativity! I have met a lot of people on this list who I began to love so dearly and are precious to me. I couldn't begin to name names, lest I forget anyone. This list is my only connection to the city and scene that I love, and too all of you. Until IM physically there by this late summer permanently, SFRaves is all I got to keep me from being too lonely down here and connected with all of you. I know I post some controversial posts from time to time. Sometimes I post because IM lonely or angry and I need to vent a little. Sometimes I post because I have a sad story and a happy story to tell, and IM glad I have some place to share my positive experiences as well as my negative experiences. My ying and yang days. Sometimes I post because I've had something inspirational or profoundly spiritual happen to me, and it may inspire and lift someone else's spirit that day who may, by chance needed a little boost. Sometimes I had a thought or a realization that came to me that rocked my world. And I felt it would rock other worlds on this list too. Sometimes I post because I love to get involved with or help pull along interesting threads that may be a lot of times "NRR," but nevertheless show's that many, many ravers are kind, intelligent, socially conscious people, like other highly enlightened people in this world. Who do care about the planet, the environment, social/political causes, who are concerned about racism, sexism, homophobia and about one another and other people, instead of the stereotype of ravers of just thinking about themselves, when the next party will be, or the latest gossip and trash talk, and being all drugged up all the time. I know many people on this list feel the same way and are on this list for many of the same reasons that I am. IM so glad and thankful that I have a place like SFRaves, and IM not going to let it be flushed down the cyber toilet, by a few negative people. So, when I see things get negative, I try to do my part to bring it back up. As far as Lara goes being the moderator. I respect her tremendously for the responsibility she has, and her judgment in what to do in regard to people like AthestJohn who comes on and tries so hard to kill the positive energy many of us have built on this list and try to keep. I bet it is hard to decide who to kick off and who to tolerate. I'd hate to have that responsibility! It's like, if you don't, you are letting people get away with offending others on the list with racist, sexist, homophobic remarks, and tear this list down. Yet if you do intervene, you feel like an anti free speech censorist. Damn if you do, damn if you don't. But I respect and trust Lara's maturity and decisions, and I know that when a decision need's to be made about issues like this and people like AthestJohn, whether to tolerate or kick someone off. I know she will make her decision on what is best for the list and the people on it as a whole, to protect free speech, no matter how controversial it may be, yet protect the people and their integrity, and from letting this list from being flushed down the cyber toilet. Thanks Lara! ...Hey, by the way as I think of this. Does anyone have ideas on how we can show our appreciation to Lara for being the list moderator? Enough said. Whewww =) !!! I wish all, peace, love and {{hugs!}} --- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 08:36:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 895 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 08:36:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 874 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 08:36:11 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 08:36:11 -0000 Received: from XRictusx@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vEZZa10255; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:34:07 -0500 (EST) From: XRictusx@aol.com Message-ID: <3c3db3e2.37032f7f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:34:07 EST To: AtheistJon@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Awesome Raver Website Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk AHHHHHHHHHHHHH The Simpsons will never be the same again ;( Bad monkey, BAD monkey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 08:59:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8032 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 08:59:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 8024 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 08:59:14 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 08:59:14 -0000 Received: from AtheistJon@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vVHWa25810 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:58:20 -0500 (EST) From: AtheistJon@aol.com Message-ID: <9dd36b48.3703352c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:58:20 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: TheGodQ?PostFlamers,KeepingTheListPositive&ThanksToLara! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk moron the welfare thing wasn't by me. It was some jerkoff trying to be like me but of course it didn't even come close From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 09:43:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5086 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 09:43:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5078 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 09:43:20 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 09:43:20 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D64Z3877; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:42:49 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:00:41 -0800 Subject: <> The Matrix Message-ID: <19990312.120043.-336149.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Fuck yeah. See this movie, see this movie, see this movie. It cheeses out at certain points, but is worth it. It's so freakin' good, you're actually not bothered by the fact that you are watching Keanu Reeves try and do martial arts! See this movie, see this movie, see this movie... or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 10:01:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10280 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 10:01:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 10263 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 10:01:17 -0000 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (lime@192.100.81.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 10:01:17 -0000 Received: (from lime@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id CAA29577; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 02:01:09 -0800 (PST) From: Kevin Simonich Message-Id: <199904011001.CAA29577@netcom19.netcom.com> Subject: Re: <> The Matrix To: elias_smith@juno.com (the town drunk) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 02:01:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990312.120043.-336149.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> from "the town drunk" at Mar 12, 99 12:00:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > Fuck yeah. See this movie, see this movie, see this movie. > It cheeses out at certain points, but is worth it. It's so freakin' good, > you're actually not bothered by the fact that you are watching Keanu > Reeves try and do martial arts! Oh, and for those of you wondering: No, it's not anything even remotely like Neuromancer. It's far more like "Dark City" than anything else I've seen recently. And yeah, while it does cheese out at times, it does at least manage to avoid a lot of the typical Hollyweird cliches, and remains quite interesting throughout the entire film. Definitely worth your 8 bucks to see it on the big screen. :) -Opus From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 10:30:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16460 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 10:30:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 16451 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 10:30:54 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 10:30:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 4203 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 10:30:52 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 10:30:52 -0000 Received: from level9 (lax-ts1-h2-40-254.ispmodems.net [209.162.40.254]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA07527; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 02:30:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990401023422.007ae250@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: breakbeat@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 02:34:22 -0800 To: "Wayne Radinsky" From: breakbeat@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net Subject: Re: NRR Re: atheism Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990331064535.28835.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ahh the inevitable link between physics and philosophy, yum. I'll add one other thing since my last post could have been yanked out of a text (no it wasn't, but it could have been). Many religious people will argue that science is just another form of religion, another form of faith. There is somethign to parts of this arguement, though in it's totality i disagree. In the shortest and simplest way i can think to put it, the difference lies in the difference between pulling a number out of a hat and an educated guess. How is this related? I feel science and religion do have one very important similarity. They are both a search for closure, a search for a *limit*. I have great respect for science because as it relates to the practical world it's the best thing we got, but as an ideological concept, I believe it has the same obsticles. I notice you mention "speed of light is the universal speed limit". Statements like this are a form of god. They are a boundry, something we feel we can accept and form a base from. Granted, it is a calculated boundry, it is not pulled out of a hat, but I think us scientists choose to make such statements to satisfy the same inate urge for answers that a Christian fills by claiming faith. What about a quark? If I remember correctly (which I admit I may not) mathematical theory demonstrates a quark to move faster than light. Even if this is wrong, I think we will find something faster than light, I don't believe in limits, and that is my religion =;) symmetry At 10:45 PM 3/30/99 PST, you wrote: > >Alright, I'm an atheist, I just decided this today. You see, >I used to be indecisive. But now, I'm not sure. > >Anyway, here's the bottom line: when you let go of a ball it >falls. When you shoot photons through holes that are smaller >than their light wavelength, you get a wave interference >pattern. And so on. The laws of physics are what they are -- >we observe them every day. But we don't know **why** they are >this way. Nobody knows why gravity exists. Nobody knows >why life is governed by natural selection. Nobody knows >why the speed of light is the universal speed limit. Things >"just are" this way, at least as far as anyone can tell. > >So you can go on all day and all night with these sort of >"what happens when an irrestible force meets an immovable >object" kind of questions. The fact is, nobody has ever >seen an irrestible force or an immovable object. So who cares? >Is there a God? Most people think of God as someone who thinks >like a human being, and I'm pretty sure the universo wasn't >created by a human being. But it's here, apparently, and one must >assume it got here somehow. > >Alex is pretty much right on with his "Who's to say anything is >real?" line of thought. It's only as real as you experience >it. This is the paradox of consciousness and it shows up in >quantum physics in the Schroedinger's Cat paradox. What if the >cat was a human being, would that change the paradox? You all >should study quantum physics and then you'll understand what >I'm talking about. It'll make this mystery go away and replace >it with a big pile of new ones that will really make your brain >flip. > >Sorry Psifire, I know you said shouldn't talk about quantum >physics on the list, but damn, it's irrestible sometimes -- >unless there's an immovable object in the way. > >waynebrain >---------- >>From: "Alknod !" >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: atheism >>Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:56:18 PST >> >>I am humbled by your reply, damn good point to make, now can we go on >to >>define the undefinable, nothing? I tried this already and met much >>resistance as I am sure to do so here. I was saying how can we define >>nothing when nothing in and of itself does not exsist, only as a >>consept, we rely on this consept of so-called nothing in order to give >>meaning to something that does not exsist. But then if nothing exsists >>then do we really exsist as well, or are we merely in the imagination >of >>ourselves and who we think we are? Who's to say anything is real? Who >>told you the grass was green? Could be purple for all we know, some >fool >>desided a long time ago to play a mean trick on the rest of the human >>race and said hey, that looks red, but its really yellow! >> >>Just another thought, stupid as it may seem.... >> >> >> Alex..................Tired >> >> >> >>>From: Breakbeat@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net >>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>Subject: atheism >>>Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:07:48 -0800 >>> >>>>First of all, Atheism is an oxyMORON because belief in the devil or >>>>belief in anything other than a god or the god or whatever would >still >>>>be considered a theium of some sorts. >>> >>>hrrm, believing in nothing cannot be compared to believing in >>something, to >>>do so creates a sort of circular logic, which while difficult to >>combat, is >>>pretty devoid of any substantial argument. People who believe in "god >>or >>>whatever" are making a assertion regarding the existance of a tangible >>>entity, since "nothing" cannot be considered a tangible entity, >>believing >>>in nothing is not actually an assertion, but is rather a denile of >>whatever >>>is commonly considered to exist. So, if an atheist *asserts* that >>there is >>>no god, they are really only denying the conceptions of god held by >>other >>>people, since they harbor no conceptions of god of there own. If they >>did >>>they would cease to be atheists. In truth you could say that an >>Atheist is >>>not really denying god, but peoples conception of god, since an >Atheist >>>cannot deny a conception of God that hasn't been concieved, to do so >>would >>>be ignorance. >>> >>>Any thoughts? Perhaps if some good philosophical discussion can come >>about >>>from AtheistJohn's nick, he isn't totally useless afterall =:) >>> >>>symmetry >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 10:31:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17275 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 10:31:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 17267 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 10:31:50 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 10:31:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 4345 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 10:31:47 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 10:31:47 -0000 Received: from level9 (lax-ts1-h2-40-254.ispmodems.net [209.162.40.254]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA07935 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 02:31:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990401023518.0079f5f0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: breakbeat@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 02:35:18 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: breakbeat@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net Subject: Re: atheism Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -The sceptics Are we just a brain in a vat? If we were a brain in vat, hooked up to a machine that send signals to the brain to trigger sensory responses exactly matching that of what we believe to be experiences we would have no way of knowing that we were a brain in a vat and would believe ourselves to be exactly what we are. Thus the skeptics would say we cannot be sure of any reality. There is a *huge* difference between asserting that nothing is certain, and asserting that nothing exists. Even in the brain in the vat scenario we would not know that our reality was false.. however the vat still does exist. There is "truth", the vat scenario simply shows we have no way of being certain that we know what it is. There are of course other interpretations, and some fun logical analysis that can be drawn up. symmetry =:) >At 09:56 PM 3/30/99 PST, you wrote: >>I am humbled by your reply, damn good point to make, now can we go on to >>define the undefinable, nothing? I tried this already and met much >>resistance as I am sure to do so here. I was saying how can we define >>nothing when nothing in and of itself does not exsist, only as a >>consept, we rely on this consept of so-called nothing in order to give >>meaning to something that does not exsist. But then if nothing exsists >>then do we really exsist as well, or are we merely in the imagination of >>ourselves and who we think we are? Who's to say anything is real? Who >>told you the grass was green? Could be purple for all we know, some fool >>desided a long time ago to play a mean trick on the rest of the human >>race and said hey, that looks red, but its really yellow! >> >>Just another thought, stupid as it may seem.... >> >> >> Alex..................Tired >> >> >> >>>From: Breakbeat@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net >>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>Subject: atheism >>>Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:07:48 -0800 >>> >>>>First of all, Atheism is an oxyMORON because belief in the devil or >>>>belief in anything other than a god or the god or whatever would still >>>>be considered a theium of some sorts. >>> >>>hrrm, believing in nothing cannot be compared to believing in >>something, to >>>do so creates a sort of circular logic, which while difficult to >>combat, is >>>pretty devoid of any substantial argument. People who believe in "god >>or >>>whatever" are making a assertion regarding the existance of a tangible >>>entity, since "nothing" cannot be considered a tangible entity, >>believing >>>in nothing is not actually an assertion, but is rather a denile of >>whatever >>>is commonly considered to exist. So, if an atheist *asserts* that >>there is >>>no god, they are really only denying the conceptions of god held by >>other >>>people, since they harbor no conceptions of god of there own. If they >>did >>>they would cease to be atheists. In truth you could say that an >>Atheist is >>>not really denying god, but peoples conception of god, since an Atheist >>>cannot deny a conception of God that hasn't been concieved, to do so >>would >>>be ignorance. >>> >>>Any thoughts? Perhaps if some good philosophical discussion can come >>about >>>from AtheistJohn's nick, he isn't totally useless afterall =:) >>> >>>symmetry >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 14:42:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8549 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 14:42:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 8538 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 14:42:40 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 14:42:40 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.240] (libya-240.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.240]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00483; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 06:42:18 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 06:56:59 -0800 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Thu) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Success is relative. ---Deepfog ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 14:51:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13001 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 14:51:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 12992 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 14:51:42 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 14:51:42 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Thu Apr 1 06:51:12 1999 To: OXnymphXO@aol.com, "Lara" Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 06:51:12 -0800 From: "kurt ermshar" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: hi, i ruined this list by being a kid. nice to meet you. X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.192 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Lara, Right on!!!!! I'm an old 32 year old raver who graduated college, holds down a job AND STILL is considered a kid...I must be doing something right huh? Peace & love da'Wolf -- On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:45:24 Lara wrote: >You have to not take John's age attacks seriously. He does not see the >beauty which the youth of the scene brings, he only sees the youth as >"randy raving nazi's" with a lack of respect. > Unfortunately, youth has been very infamous for being >disrespectful, ignorant and childish on this list, and that's the burden >you have to carry as a youth, that's the burden I carried as a youth, not >being taken seriously and whatnot, and even now I do not get taken >seriously at 22. But as you get older, you get the burden of being >considered a "close-minded old fart." > No matter who you are or what you do >or how old you are, someone's going to have a negative opinion about you >in your lifetime. And what do you say to 'em? Well, treat them with your >respect because that'll just prove them wrong, and after you respect them, >fuck 'em. Don't worry what the stereotypes of the world say against you or >about you, just be yourself and prove them all wrong by being the >strong-willed and strong-hearted person you are and sticking to your >heart, and being true to others and treating people with the utmost of >respect even when it's the hardest thing to do. It's the ultimate balance >-- treating people who are disrespecting you with the utmost respect >without infringing on your personal beleifs. But with a good heart and >good head on your shoulders, you can do anything, no matter what age you >are. > With that said, let me say, I don't see any reason for any hatred >regarding what age people are. Not all youth are disrespectful punks, not >all older people are close-minded and nasty. That's the thing I love about >people -- you HAVE to take the effort to get to know every single person >you meet if you really want to know the deal on people. You can't just >pass judgement on a person by one glance, or an age number, or by a single >posting on this list (in most cases). It takes EFFORT to get to know >people. And saying all youth are punkasses, well, that's just looking at >one side of the coin instead of both. :) >Lara > > >---- >"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." > -- Oscar Wilde > >On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 OXnymphXO@aol.com wrote: > >> couldn't have said it better myself sarah. i am quite young, but my maturity >> level exceeds my age. nearly every time i meet someone and chill with them for >> a while, and then my age comes up, they almost always say, "what?? i thought >> you were like, 18!!". there's nothing that frustrates me more than when >> someone judges me by my age like a couple of you on the list have done. i know >> several 16+ year olds that are mature as normal 12 year olds. it's not the age >> that makes the person, it's the person that makes the person. i was VERY >> offended when whoever it was placed the blame of the list going down hill due >> to stupid children with free e-mail accounts and a bunch of candy raving >> nazis. you need to check yourself and realize what a prick YOU'RE being by >> passing sudden judgments on kids under 18. maybe you older ravers have >> forgotten that many of these kids that come to parties(whether they be candy >> kids or not) aren't there to be discriminated against and neither are the kids >> on the list. maybe you forgot what it's like to be a kid so let me remind you >> that, contrary to popular belief, not all our lives revolve around going to >> the mall and watching dawson's creek. WE HAVE MINDS! we are kids exploring our >> individualities and relationships and expressing ourselves freely. and if that >> makes me ignorant to the world, if that makes me naive and immature, well then >> fuck it, put the dunce cap on me. >> >> alida >> > > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 14:54:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14179 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 14:54:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14162 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 14:54:14 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 14:54:14 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Thu Apr 1 06:53:38 1999 To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org, "Spiral of Evolution" Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 06:53:38 -0800 From: "kurt ermshar" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: the list goes on... X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.192 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Right on joakman!! What bad can there be to say about an event when you were too busy having fun? Trip the lights hon, I'm coming in..... Peace da'Wolf -- On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:08:38 Spiral of Evolution wrote: >Very nicely put. Couldn't have said it better myself... >Triad > >On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:15:22 -0800 "Joaqman" >writes: > >>personally, i don't post negative reviews on the list. i think it is >>useless. there is enuff bad press about the scene and i don't think >>it helps our (dance/muzik) situation. >> >>i love all of you that love yourselves. >>and on thru the millenium.... >> >>joaqman > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 15:20:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24338 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 15:20:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 24321 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 15:20:19 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?yTv5ynJUDtk27mVrLg37Z9uXupr8ZI4+?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 15:20:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id HAA13756 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:20:15 -0800 (PST) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:20:15 -0800 (PST) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: age/race/ stupid people/cool people. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This has got to be one of the more played out threads I've seen in the 3 years or whatever I've been on the list. Are you young? You might be stupid, a completely ridiculous drugged out, tagger fuckup with no clue what the hell this shit is all about except that boy it sure does beat the high school dance. Are you older? You might be a blockhead hipster who thinks he/she knows the score, yo umight have been there drugged out and tagging back in the day, but are just above that shit now, or you might be a yuppie dweeb who is tired of plur and just wants to find someone to give you head and backrubs, and will hit on people until you find this. Are you white? You might be a fucking boojwah dipshit with a silver plated pacifier who doesn't know funk from bunk, and thinks that biggin up Maya Angelou and liking Chris Rock Show makes you "down." Are you black? You might beat up pussy little kids for fun and rob and steal and break shit, and go to raves just to slang pills. Are you Asian? You might have a lowered Colt Vista with dope rims and travel in a huge pack and start fights and ignore everyone who isn't in your immediate posse. Are you latin? You might be hitting on my girlfriend/sister, and stealing cars from Oakland raves and selling oregeno to idiots. But, chances are, you're not! Chances are, if you are on this list, if you're going to underground parties, if you're out there dancing, smiling, brocking out, yelling for more when the party's over, listening to beats in your headphones, meeting new people you would never have met on the street...chances are you're above stereotypes. And I salute you, and I believe in you. There are a couple blisterpoppin, skullrattlin, dipshittin, stupid punk ass turdypants chunknuts in every single ethnic/age/gender group. That will never change. But one of the things that PLUR does not directly give props to, but to me is more or less the point of this whole lifestyle, in the social sense...is that we are all impossible to categorize. I am hippy-hop. What are you? Candy-punk? Thuggish-queer? What? You're your own shit. Do it up, do it up however you like. A lot of you who are either from the Bay and haven't travelled much, or from the Bay and sort of not paying attention to the rest of the world might be missing this important fact: we have a very very very diverse makeup going on here. And it's rather politically correct, which in this case is a good thing...it makes us accepting, and open-minded for the most part. And that is beautiful. Because in the perfect world, to continue over-using this little shred of conventional wisdom, it's not where you're from...it's where you're at. I trust yall. I trust you to do the best with what you have, be it your age, your skin color, your sexual preference. Be happy with it. Try not to be an idiot. And JSL, if you're reading this, I love you to death, and I just want to know what's going to happen when your kids are 16 and acting like clowns...will you flame them? =D Eklektic, FGFriday, Saturday who knows....I'll see you there, suckers! 10-4, duh, max This may be the most "talking to hear his own voice" post I've ever made. big up to ME. =D From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 15:39:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3466 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 15:39:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3458 invoked by uid 233); 1 Apr 1999 15:39:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6126 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 08:55:11 -0000 Received: from web705.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 08:55:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401085400.29598.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.101.174.4] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 00:54:00 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 00:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Downer Subject: Children of The Sun!!!! To: Mandi Girl , OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I hope many of you will be attending/supporting Children of the Sun. I was introduced to Isaac and KJ of Children of the Sun back at the Harmony Weekend Reniunion. They were those great kids that brought fruit to all the kids who desperatly needed food! Since then Isaac and KJ have become good friends, They are always down to help out anytime something is needed. They have provided Fruits and drinks at several of *warmth* events, and never once have they asked for anything in return! There is nothing but good and kindness from these kids! I was asked what I will be doing this weekend, Without question, I said Supporting a collective which provided many free services to multiple collectives, and never expected anything in return! It is nice to see good collectives / good people in a scene which at times can be greedy and uncarring to many. Hope to see you all at the Children of the Sun 1 Year anniversary! Matt :-o} --- Mandi Girl wrote: > I am going to Children of the Sun. The dj's are good > so it can't be > that bad. Much Love -- Mandi > > > > > >hello. i just wanted to know, is anyone is going to > children of the > sun? i > >think i might go but if gathering is gonna be > better....but then again, > >children of the sun is giving away free fruit, juice > and kandy. can't > beat > >that! any info would be appreciated. > > > >tickles and skittles, > >alida > > > > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 15:41:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5408 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 15:41:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5400 invoked by uid 233); 1 Apr 1999 15:41:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 2380 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 10:47:41 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 10:47:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 6511 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 10:47:39 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 10:47:39 -0000 Received: from level9 (lax-ts1-h2-40-254.ispmodems.net [209.162.40.254]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA13338; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 02:47:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990401025111.007b2680@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: breakbeat@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 02:51:11 -0800 To: Jess ica From: breakbeat@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net Subject: Re: Racism on the list Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990331200802.369.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk arg... no no no, you were right in the first place =:P I totally hear what herb is saying, but certainly Jon KNEW we hated racism when he wrote it, that was his motivation. Having everyone on the list write a paragraph on what a little twit he is doesn't accomplish anything. I personally want my inbox to be empty of messages from him and further responses from us, or else he can just instigate instigate instigate, to the point that all this list discusses is him, its degenerating to that point as it is. No one is going to convince him otherwise of his views, I doubt he even believes them himself, so even the most intelligent replies fall on deaf ears. What can responding possibly accomplish? *sighs* symmetry At 12:08 PM 3/31/99 -0800, you wrote: > > >After reading Herb's email I realize I did overlook a very important >issue. I apologize. There are people who do attack lists for their own >pleasure, I have seen it happen (anyone remember ahater@hotmail). >I guess the reason why atheistjon posts didnt bug me is because I never >read any of them, but you are all right, racism should BUG THE SHIT OUT >OF ME!! And I dont think it should be overlooked or ignored, >abslolutely not!!! I take back a statement I wrote, this negativity is >very REAL, its too bad the person who started it on this list is so >fake. I guess I should have read the posts before I jumped the gun on >the issue, and once again I apologize. > >Still seeing the stars, > >Jessica > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 15:41:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5963 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 15:41:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 5850 invoked by uid 233); 1 Apr 1999 15:41:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 5466 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 11:01:54 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 11:01:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 8558 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 11:01:52 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 11:01:52 -0000 Received: from level9 (lax-ts1-h2-40-254.ispmodems.net [209.162.40.254]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA17861 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:01:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990401030524.007aa1f0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: breakbeat@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 03:05:24 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: breakbeat@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net Subject: influences.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >I guess, this list, much like this entire scene, is a transient phase >that people >get hooked on, and eventually outgrow. It's just a matter of time... >For all >of us. I think I know what you mean here and so I promise I'm not picking apart words. I'm sure it grows tiring watcing exactly how u state everything since you know there a bunch of people trying to pick u apart, and I don't wish to be one of those. Nevertheless, I just want to note, I like to think of raving as more than just this, and I'm sure you do too. It isn't like my set of transformers which I eventually packed away in a box. Perhaps I got some creative growth from them, and certainly a lot of enjoyment, but what you get from raving seems to me to be so much more. When it really matters to you, you find a new sense of yourself, or at least a better understanding of aspects of yourself you knew were always there. It influences your outlook on life in all areas, it can influence your political philosophy. Raving changed me in a lot of ways, ways that I see popping up in everything I do, things like the way I feel about friendship, the way I feel about nature, and I imagine I will continue to notice such things the rest of my life. Maybe I didn't get everything I could have out of transformers, and maybe some people just get a night of amazing dancing out of a rave, but for me, I don't think I will ever totally pack raving away in a box =:) symmetry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 15:57:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14826 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 15:57:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 14818 invoked by uid 233); 1 Apr 1999 15:57:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 6557 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 11:06:20 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 11:06:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 9053 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 11:06:16 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 11:06:16 -0000 Received: from level9 (lax-ts1-h2-40-254.ispmodems.net [209.162.40.254]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA19192; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:06:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990401030947.007b9ab0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: breakbeat@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 03:09:47 -0800 To: "Rafie" From: breakbeat@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net Subject: RE: history of our scene Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <199903312132.NAA24300@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think I mentioned this awhile back, "Acid Dreams" is an excellent history of LSD particularly as it relates to the bay area, and the rich history we have here. A good book, and a must read for those people who think everything has to be permitted, sactioned, and ok'd by the local PD. symmetry At 01:34 PM 3/31/99, you wrote: >Someone posted about this earlier, but GENERATION ECSTACY by SIMON REYNOLDS >(I think that's the author..) is a good, interesting, very comprehensive >history of raving. It's main focus is on the music, how it was created, how >it changed, and how it affected the culture of raves (which is what it's >about anyway, right). Anyway, I really enjoyed it..sometimes the author >gets a little overly verbose but 'sokay. > >Can anyone recommend any other rave history/culture books? > >Rafie > > > >On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 03:07:23 EST, >WOO1121@aol.com wrote... >>I was just thinking that the most interesting posts i've read on SFR was >>one >>from Raoul in response to Paul Okenfold who? where he talked about >history, >>and said he could go on and on so I say please do! Let's actually have a >>rave >>related thread. please everyone post any history lessons you can think of >>as >>well as resources to find out more. hopefully everyone will take advantage >>of >>the posts and learn something because i believe that the more you learn >the >>more you will appreciate our scene and what we are all lucky to have and >be >>a >>part of. Everyone seems to want more positive stuff on this list so what >>could >>be more positive than sharing and learning? we all want more rave related >>stuff so lets start some. >> Love Amanda Kung Pow* >>P.S. just my thoughts hope i'm not outta line or offending anyone and i >>haven't been a part of this list very long so please inform me if this is >>not >>a possibility or something:) this is sfRAVES ya? >> >> > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 16:22:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28132 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 16:22:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 28122 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 16:21:59 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 16:21:59 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vVEWa09406 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:20:21 -0500 (EST) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: <4125a283.37039cc5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:20:21 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: ??? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What is this whole thing about somebody named atheist john? I just signed on to the list and am confused! PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 16:33:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4255 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 16:33:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 4247 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 16:33:33 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 16:33:33 -0000 Received: from c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.87.180]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with ESMTP id <19990401163332.VXNL6529.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com>; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:33:32 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: "Goa@Party. Net" , "Socal Ravers" , "SFRaves" Subject: Mixing and Scratching MP3s Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:33:31 -0800 Message-ID: <002301be7c5d$60d18860$b4570118@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/18840.html gEoff ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 17:02:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23818 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 17:02:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23807 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 17:02:37 -0000 Received: from web708.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 17:02:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401170235.10513.rocketmail@web708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.11] by web708.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:02:35 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: mike bolger Subject: nrr : star wars To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk www.cinescape.com is reporting that Gary Coleman is gonna be signed on for the star wars : the next generation tv show due out on fox next fall. ...and then i remembered, oh yeah, today's april first. www.theforce.net also has their own copy of the prequel trailer version C; which is the last trailer plus 2 plus mins of footage they edited in from that 60mins episode on sunday. check it out. Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 17:04:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24696 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 17:04:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 24688 invoked by uid 233); 1 Apr 1999 17:04:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 20131 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 16:05:23 -0000 Received: from mail2.sirius.com (205.134.253.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 16:05:23 -0000 Received: from [205.134.231.165] (ppp-asfm13--165.sirius.net [205.134.231.165]) by mail2.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA25651; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:05:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:12:24 -0400 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: cbossen@sirius.com (Colin Bossen) Subject: Free Partee this Sat. Cc: asif@sirius.com, hansolo_sf@hotmail.hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey kids, check it out: Diveregence presents a homestyle house party 100% free and friendly featuring J18 "Reclaim the Streets" video documentary and Djs: David Michael, Spundae~ SF Paulleath, Elotromundo~ San Jose Chip McClure, Sugar~ SF 58 14th St. @ Folsom (by Rainbow) 10pm to 7 am 4.3.99 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 17:23:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4232 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 17:23:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 4210 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 17:23:06 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 17:23:06 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vDPTa19052 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:21:29 -0500 (EST) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:21:29 EST To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: feel good friday question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey dont look at me like im retarded but is feel good friday in the day or at nite? the hours that its over looked pretty wierd to me so im confused...someone help me out.... djmegatron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 17:29:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9766 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 17:29:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 9749 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 17:29:11 -0000 Received: from web709.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 17:29:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401173029.6856.rocketmail@web709.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.11] by web709.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:30:29 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:30:29 -0800 (PST) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: history of our scene To: Ray Vonie , Greg Adair Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Aries, '95 or '96. a $15 party with Garth, Andre Lucero and Mark E Quark; back when Garth had dreads and Mark E Quark was San Diego. Party was on market right off of 6th street (!) Market st gets pretty ugly at night but 6th st is just straight-up suicidal. the entrance to the store front was open with 3 guys painting the interior and playing techno on a boom box. as i was walking to the adress, avoiding eye contact from some of the more aggressive noctural city people, and double checking it to make sure i wasn't just spacing, i kinda merged in with another pack of equally confused ravers who had just gotten off the bus. we didn't say a word to each other or to the painters, but just kind of gravitated together and walked into the storefront towards the back door where a fourth guy open the door for us while cautiouslly eyeing the market street traffic. it just seemed natural. i didn't recoginze the door guy and he didn't say a word but slapped me 5 on my way in. in the second room there was security, a pat-down, and a check for your pre-sale tickets, from there they let us into the basement, and a pretty big one at that, where the party was in full swing. full-on speak-easy undergroung on market and 6th street on a weekend night. i've never seen a party like that before or since, that party had a lot of balls and a lot of class. > > > got started??? or about incredible parties that > have happened?? or whatever.. > > > =) it'd be a nice break from some of the negative > posts lately, and maybe get > > > people in a better mood!!! > > > > > > hope everyone is having a great day!!! it's been > beautiful out lately... > > > > > > love and hugs and kisses, > > > tina > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/31/99 2:21:54 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > > > rayvonie@ix.netcom.com writes: > > > > > > << This is great that someone brought up this > thread. > > > > > > If you all care to know some of the history > about this scene, and the > > > politics > > > and drama behind it, then take a minute or a > month to read the SFRave > > > archives... packed full of every post, every > thread, and every topic that has > > > been discussed on this list. > > > > > > Another way is just to ask. Many people on > this list do not take advantage > > > of > > > the fact that there are many promoters, and dj's > right here listening and > > > waiting for enthusiastic and genuine questions > about the history and heritage > > > of the music, the parties, and the culture. > There are a lot of knowledge > > > full > > > people on this list, so just ask a question, and > start a thread. I know > > > that > > > I ,as well as many others, would have a good > time talking about many of the > > > specifics of this culture, how things got to > here, and were they are going... > > > but someone has to ask the questions. > > > > > > Keep it mellow, Vlad > > > >> > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 17:29:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10247 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 17:29:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 10101 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 17:29:20 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 17:29:20 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id dILLa09406; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:27:31 -0500 (EST) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <3104242c.3703ac83@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:27:31 EST To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: age/race/ stupid people/cool people. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i resent that..hehehehe...and i prefer painter/bomber dean* << tagger fuckup >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 17:34:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13468 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 17:34:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 13447 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 17:33:57 -0000 Received: from stinger-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO stinger.excite.com) (198.3.99.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 17:33:57 -0000 Received: from flash.excite.com ([199.172.152.79]) by stinger.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990401173322.XNZS12243.stinger@flash.excite.com> for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:33:22 -0800 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: pre-ComeUnity dinner anyone??? Message-Id: <922988005.27419.393@excite.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:33:25 PST X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I make it a plan to always to go ComeUnity... which, if you haven't been, is a monthly put on the first Wednesday of every month at 1015 Folsom... it's been happening for over six years, and I've been going for most of that time.... and what I love about it is that it's a true mix of clubbers, ravers, weirdos, dancers, drinkers, whatever.... and the music is what i love most.... the djs are garth, jeno and simon..... groovy-assed progressive house (they're the Wicked crew, but the music at ComeUnity is a little brighter than Wicked).... occasionally a guest, and they do something in the basement but i never make it down there. (after all, it's a weeknight, so I get there early, 10:30-ish, while the dancefloor is empty... and leave around 12:30 when it's getting crowded and it's time for me to get some sleep before work in the morning)... anyway -- next Wednesday, I'm having dinner ahead of time with Messiah/Karsten and Byroni, and hopefully some more of you over-21 househeads who wanna hang out and then get some solid dancing in.... anyone interested? john lee, howz about you??? d for dinner i'm thinking maybe of Bucca di Beppo, which is a loud family-style Italian place a block away from 1015... anyone interested? leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 17:34:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14297 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 17:34:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 14165 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 17:34:36 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 17:34:36 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA19348; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA16704; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:26:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:26:38 -0500 (EST) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: Lara cc: SCiEnCe , sfraves@hyperreal.org, Oct1faith@aol.com, leslie.ayres@excite.com Subject: Re: Lara, List condition, and You In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk why does lara have to explain herself to all of you? she does a great job, a job you might not SEE her doing, but a great job at that. i think it's time to throw this subject out the window because it's just getting too old. i've noticed that poeple always have to have something to complain about on this list, be it a party, a promoter, the bunk e you got last weekend, and even our wonderful list moderator. maybe if we all looked at the wonderful things in our lives we'd forget about complaining and remember how to LIVE each day for what it is. the past is the past, the future is the future, and the present is just that, a gift, so enjoy it :) much love on this beautiful thursday, amber ps: has anyone been noticing the unusual amounts of car accidents? every day this week there has been at least a 3 car pileup on the richmond bridge. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 17:43:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19179 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 17:43:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 19154 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 17:43:32 -0000 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 17:43:32 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom11.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id JAA11396; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:43:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:43:30 -0800 (PST) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Lara, List condition, and You To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, MacBunny wrote: > i've noticed that poeple always have to have something to complain about > on this list, be it a party, a promoter, the bunk e you got last weekend, > and even our wonderful list moderator. > i think we should start complaining about all these complaints on the list! :D -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You got to be very careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there." -Yogi Berra http://www.noah.apodaca.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 17:47:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21864 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 17:46:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 21819 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 17:46:55 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 17:46:55 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-221.dsp.com [204.118.76.221]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA28387; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:49:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199904011749.JAA28387@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:44:46 -0800 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: pre-ComeUnity dinner anyone??? In-Reply-To: <922988005.27419.393@excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk But wait - there's more!!! This coming Weds is Come-Unity's 8th Anniversary Party! I think it's Jeno, Simon, and Garth spinning. Which sounds truly fab. And Buca di Beppo is way too much fun (we went there night before last and I'm still recovering), esp. with a large group of people. If Brendan and I ever recover from this dastardly respiratory virus, we'll see y'all there! Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 18:00:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1810 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 18:00:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 1790 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 18:00:26 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 18:00:26 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.32] (madmax-32.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.32]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA29160; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:59:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:00:10 -0800 To: BeTTaViBe@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: underground tape folks/Djs.. PLEASE READ Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 1:24 AM -0500 4/1/99, BeTTaViBe@aol.com wrote: >Ok..heres the deal.. >I made a tape (and it is doap) and when I recored it on tape the quality is >hella good...now when I tryed tape-to-tape recording the next copys sounds >shity... >How the hell do you peaple make so many copys with such good sound quality.... Use TDK tapes. Maxel is a close second, but no other brand should be considered. Use type 1 tapes. CrO2, and metal (type 2, or 4 ) tapes can't hold as much bass as type 1. As a result, they will saturate easily when recording, bass heavy, rave, music. If you use type 2, or 4 tape you will have to keep your levels down, resulting in a quieter less appealling tape. However, because most people believe that CrO2, and metal tapes are better, you may want to use them just to show off. (perception of quality is the same thing as quality.) Alternatly you can cover up your tape with a fancy label, so no one can tell what kind on tape you used. Note that when DJs have many tapes made in bulk, on tapes that came with no markings, the tapes are nearly always type 1. Use a decnt deck. I use a cheap to midling Technics dual well. I don't use high speed dubbing, because it's supposed to reduce bass. However, I'm not sure high speed is bad; Professional reel to reel decks get excelent sound by running at four to eight times the speed of cassette decks. Or, master to something other than compact cassete. A stereo, hifi, 4-head, VHS VCR works well. Not great, but way better than cassete. Some VCRs may require a video signal to get them to record audio corectly. DAT tapes, being digital, have a low tollerance for clipping in the source signal. You must be sure that your signal is not clipping. The only really good way to do this, is to use a Rane, and keep the levels on the mixer out of the red. Best of luck trying to get any other brand to give a good, clean signal. What exactly are you doing now? Giant sig added to protest against quoting entire threads. U UUUUUU U UUUUUUU UU U U UU UUUU lll i h h U UU U UU ll i hh UU UUU UU ll r r i c hh UU UUU UU ll rr rr ii ccc hh h UU UUU UU ll rrrr rr iii cccch hhhh UU UUU UU ll r rr ii cc c hhh UUU U U UU ll r ii cc hh UUU U UUU ll r ii cc hh UUUU U U UUUU ll rrr ii ccc h hh UUUUUU UUU llll rrrr iii cccc hhhh UUU U l r i c h h hh h From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 18:07:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4396 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 18:07:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 4386 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 18:07:41 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 18:07:41 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA28627; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA18584; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:47:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:47:44 -0500 (EST) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: mike bolger cc: Ray Vonie , Greg Adair , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: history of our scene In-Reply-To: <19990401173029.6856.rocketmail@web709.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I WENT TO THAT PARTY! it was when i was a senior in highschool, the first party i had ever been to. i thought it was weird as fuck! i didn't end up getting into the scene until a year or so later when someone else brought me to a sunset boat party, but i so remember walking through this front area with someguys painting the walls, and blasting music out of a boom box. i had NO IDEA what i was walking into that night :) you couldn't tell that there was music playing until you got through the front area, into where they were taking money, and into the basement. i think what i remember most was some girl dressed up like raggedy anne. much love, amber On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, mike bolger wrote: > > > Aries, '95 or '96. a $15 party with Garth, Andre Lucero and Mark E > Quark; back when Garth had dreads and Mark E Quark was San Diego. > > Party was on market right off of 6th street (!) Market st gets pretty > ugly at night but 6th st is just straight-up suicidal. the entrance to > the store front was open with 3 guys painting the interior and playing > techno on a boom box. as i was walking to the adress, avoiding eye > contact from some of the more aggressive noctural city people, and > double checking it to make sure i wasn't just spacing, i kinda merged in > with another pack of equally confused ravers who had just gotten off the > bus. we didn't say a word to each other or to the painters, but just > kind of gravitated together and walked into the storefront towards the > back door where a fourth guy open the door for us while cautiouslly > eyeing the market street traffic. it just seemed natural. i didn't > recoginze the door guy and he didn't say a word but slapped me 5 on my > way in. > > in the second room there was security, a pat-down, and a check for your > pre-sale tickets, from there they let us into the basement, and a pretty > big one at that, where the party was in full swing. full-on speak-easy > undergroung on market and 6th street on a weekend night. i've never seen > a party like that before or since, that party had a lot of balls and a > lot of class. > > > > > > > got started??? or about incredible parties that > > have happened?? or whatever.. > > > > =) it'd be a nice break from some of the negative > > posts lately, and maybe get > > > > people in a better mood!!! > > > > > > > > hope everyone is having a great day!!! it's been > > beautiful out lately... > > > > > > > > love and hugs and kisses, > > > > tina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/31/99 2:21:54 PM Pacific > > Standard Time, > > > > rayvonie@ix.netcom.com writes: > > > > > > > > << This is great that someone brought up this > > thread. > > > > > > > > If you all care to know some of the history > > about this scene, and the > > > > politics > > > > and drama behind it, then take a minute or a > > month to read the SFRave > > > > archives... packed full of every post, every > > thread, and every topic that has > > > > been discussed on this list. > > > > > > > > Another way is just to ask. Many people on > > this list do not take advantage > > > > of > > > > the fact that there are many promoters, and dj's > > right here listening and > > > > waiting for enthusiastic and genuine questions > > about the history and heritage > > > > of the music, the parties, and the culture. > > There are a lot of knowledge > > > > full > > > > people on this list, so just ask a question, and > > start a thread. I know > > > > that > > > > I ,as well as many others, would have a good > > time talking about many of the > > > > specifics of this culture, how things got to > > here, and were they are going... > > > > but someone has to ask the questions. > > > > > > > > Keep it mellow, Vlad > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 18:12:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6454 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 18:12:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 6433 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 18:12:14 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 18:12:14 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id 3LEDa19052 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:06:56 -0500 (EST) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:06:56 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: friday raving ~> FGF Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 212 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk << Hey everyone.. Feel Good Friday is where I'll be this weekend... and Children of the sun?? Nah..I don't know.. but FGF for sure! OHMAHGAWSH! this party will be so much fuN! for all of you that are sick of the same locations and the same djs for the HUGE ticket prices, come check this out... and we should have an SFR breakfast in the morning after the party. Denny's anyone? As for me.. I'll be in tha jungle room chekking out a very special jungly set by AndyW.. no I'm not kidding! Come party with me! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 18:31:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17562 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 18:31:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 17399 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 18:30:46 -0000 Received: from web107.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 18:30:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401183209.6010.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web107.yahoomail.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:32:09 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:32:09 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: history of (y)our scene To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First off the "(y)" is because I can't honestly claim SF to be my scene. I've only been to a handful of Oak Parties and the Compound Clash in SF. Also, I've only had visual contact with a couple of fellow SFR Listers. With all this in mind, my little history lesson will be of a more general view point to say the least. So without further ado. . . FIRST! There was darkness. Then there was light. Then dark, light, dark, light over and over. Then came the humans. Then it was dark again and the music began. Out of the darkness came the ravers. Then came the light again and one raver crys out, "TURN OUT THAT LIGHT!" And then they danced. *HUGZ* pat Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 18:37:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22002 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 18:37:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 21861 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 18:36:55 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 18:36:55 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id KAA05711; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:32:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990401183239.00987e8c@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:32:39 -0800 To: mike bolger From: Isaac Labugen Subject: Re: history of our scene Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, when you talk about the past- there are just so many....I remember one that really sticks in my mind though, It was called "charity"('96)! It was put on by- harmony, lightseed, meridian, pro-soy, and I don't know who else. It was held at the "Acme" in san francisco, some mid-sized hole in the wall building that had three levels. I remember being on the bottom floor mesmerized by the sounds of dutch for the longest time. I don't think there was a map point, but I could be wrong. Anyhow, the party simply rocked and I enjoyed every minute of it. The vibe at that party is hard to match still to this day. I since revisited the acme building, and unfortunately it is condemned. Ohh the memories..... Anybody remember camp swig ('96(jewish camp in cupertino/ highway 9) ? Free BBQ, and a crazy tent city????? I'm trying to think of my '94 experiences, but geez- my is still sifting through the raver files. peace, isaac :) At 09:30 AM 4/1/99 -0800, you wrote: > >Aries, '95 or '96. a $15 party with Garth, Andre Lucero and Mark E >Quark; back when Garth had dreads and Mark E Quark was San Diego. > >Party was on market right off of 6th street (!) Market st gets pretty >ugly at night but 6th st is just straight-up suicidal. the entrance to >the store front was open with 3 guys painting the interior and playing >techno on a boom box. as i was walking to the adress, avoiding eye >contact from some of the more aggressive noctural city people, and >double checking it to make sure i wasn't just spacing, i kinda merged in >with another pack of equally confused ravers who had just gotten off the >bus. we didn't say a word to each other or to the painters, but just >kind of gravitated together and walked into the storefront towards the >back door where a fourth guy open the door for us while cautiouslly >eyeing the market street traffic. it just seemed natural. i didn't >recoginze the door guy and he didn't say a word but slapped me 5 on my >way in. > >in the second room there was security, a pat-down, and a check for your >pre-sale tickets, from there they let us into the basement, and a pretty >big one at that, where the party was in full swing. full-on speak-easy >undergroung on market and 6th street on a weekend night. i've never seen >a party like that before or since, that party had a lot of balls and a >lot of class. > > > >> > > got started??? or about incredible parties that >> have happened?? or whatever.. >> > > =) it'd be a nice break from some of the negative >> posts lately, and maybe get >> > > people in a better mood!!! >> > > >> > > hope everyone is having a great day!!! it's been >> beautiful out lately... >> > > >> > > love and hugs and kisses, >> > > tina >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > In a message dated 3/31/99 2:21:54 PM Pacific >> Standard Time, >> > > rayvonie@ix.netcom.com writes: >> > > >> > > << This is great that someone brought up this >> thread. >> > > >> > > If you all care to know some of the history >> about this scene, and the >> > > politics >> > > and drama behind it, then take a minute or a >> month to read the SFRave >> > > archives... packed full of every post, every >> thread, and every topic that has >> > > been discussed on this list. >> > > >> > > Another way is just to ask. Many people on >> this list do not take advantage >> > > of >> > > the fact that there are many promoters, and dj's >> right here listening and >> > > waiting for enthusiastic and genuine questions >> about the history and heritage >> > > of the music, the parties, and the culture. >> There are a lot of knowledge >> > > full >> > > people on this list, so just ask a question, and >> start a thread. I know >> > > that >> > > I ,as well as many others, would have a good >> time talking about many of the >> > > specifics of this culture, how things got to >> here, and were they are going... >> > > but someone has to ask the questions. >> > > >> > > Keep it mellow, Vlad >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 18:46:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1634 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 18:46:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 1460 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 18:46:46 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd96.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.160) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 18:46:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 72151 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 1999 18:46:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401184632.72150.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.193.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:46:30 PST X-Originating-IP: [12.72.193.21] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Mixing and Scratching MP3s Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:46:30 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk damn.. this shit sounds cool.. check it out.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Geoff Herbst" Reply-To: To: "Goa@Party. Net" , "Socal Ravers" ,"SFRaves" Subject: Mixing and Scratching MP3s Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:33:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Thu Apr 01 08:36:15 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8CCEB7E0187D820B659D185531005F10; Thu Apr 01 08:36:15 1999 Received: (qmail 4255 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 16:33:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 4247 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 16:33:33 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66)by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 16:33:33 -0000 Received: from c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.87.180])by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104)with ESMTPid <19990401163332.VXNL6529.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com>;Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:33:32 -0800 Message-ID: <002301be7c5d$60d18860$b4570118@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/18840.html gEoff ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 18:47:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1755 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 18:47:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 1587 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 18:46:54 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.171) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 18:46:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 55720 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 1999 18:46:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401184640.55719.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.10.236 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:46:36 PST X-Originating-IP: [153.37.10.236] From: "b i j o u" To: BeTTaViBe@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:46:36 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, it's all about minidiscs! veanne :) From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST ok..heres the deal.. i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the quality is hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys sounds shity... how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound quality.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 19:07:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19009 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 19:07:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 18745 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 19:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 19:07:19 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:04:33 -0800 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id 9B2F346DE84F11D282F900A0C9CFADA2 for plus 2 more; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:04:33 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: "'b i j o u'" , , Subject: RE: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:07:07 -0800 Message-ID: <001201be7c72$d718df40$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19990401184640.55719.qmail@hotmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-SLUIDL: 7A49FA9C-E84F11D2-82F900A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yo and shit! -------------------------------- Gerlando if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, it's all about minidiscs! veanne :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 19:15:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26478 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 19:15:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 26251 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 19:15:25 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 19:15:25 -0000 Received: from BoyInSJ18@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vECRa12314 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:11:28 -0500 (EST) From: BoyInSJ18@aol.com Message-ID: <93f94295.3703c4e0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:11:28 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: FGF Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey all, sounds like FGF is gonna be so much fun, and so if anyone has room in their car for one guy with a lotta love =) , then e-mail or page me. I live in south san jose and can help with gas money or whatever. Hope everyone has fun this weekend! Wenci 408-302-4203 <~~pager From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 19:29:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8648 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 19:29:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 8524 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 19:29:22 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 19:29:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401193209.28493.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:32:09 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:32:09 -0800 (PST) From: Jess ica Subject: And Im off...LA Jungle babee To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh yeah, So i went to the erave site, and found a wondeful beautiful jungle party (thanks Isaac ;)that looks like it will rock my lil world. SAGE will be spinning, so i gotta be there supporting the phunkatek crew!! I was so sad I had to miss Eklektik tonight, but I will hearing the jungle beats in LA tommorrow!! My first ALL jungle party!! I cant wait, its gonna be so awesome just read: (dont mean to rub it in!) Dope by Non-stop Featuring AK1200 (CD release party, Moonshine, FL), RAW & CRS? (2x4, Mictlan, LA), Sage (Phunckateck, SF), MC Jamalski (Ruffneck Reality, NYC), Deacon (Wreckignition, LA), Hyphen Select & Seismic w/ MC Oozi (2x4, Snipah Squad, LA), Mixxo (Landmark, LA), VA Brady (Octaflage, LA), The Visionaries, DJ Rhettmatic (Beat Junkies, LA), Coolwhip (Sugarbeats, LA), Drez (Sugarbeats, LA), Hysum (Sugarbeats, LA), 5star (Sugarbeats, LA), B-Boy 3000 (aka R.A.W., Mictlan, LA), Shagg-E (Nonstop, LA), and Greedy (Sky High, LA) More info: 310.217.7502 | 714.647.2467 | 323.993.7133 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 19:45:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18628 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 19:45:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 18612 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 19:45:17 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 19:45:17 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id vUESa21797; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:44:26 -0500 (EST) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <3229023b.3703cc9a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:44:26 EST To: Megatron45@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: feel good friday question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its at night MEga!!!! =) In a message dated 4/1/99 9:23:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, Megatron45@aol.com writes: << hey dont look at me like im retarded but is feel good friday in the day or at nite? the hours that its over looked pretty wierd to me so im confused...someone help me out.... >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 19:45:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19343 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 19:45:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 19211 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 19:45:35 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 19:45:35 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.pgmusa.com ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27217 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:45:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:35:35 -0800 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Gathering info? Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:35:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any Information on the Gathering this Saturday? Like an info line number or a lineup? It wasn't on the SFRaves calendar, and if it was I didn't see it. Thank you guys, any help would be appreciated!! Naomi Thompson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 19:57:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24522 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 19:57:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 24511 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 19:57:56 -0000 Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 19:57:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401195710.6829.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:57:10 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:57:10 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: Re: pre-ComeUnity dinner anyone??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: leslie.ayres@excite.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im down. This will be my first Come-unity. I have been meaning to go, but its hard to make it out on a weeknight when you have to work the next day. but since I just got laid off andnobody wants to hire me, I am there! Steve =) --- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > I make it a plan to always to go ComeUnity... which, > if you haven't been, is > a monthly put on the first Wednesday of every month > at 1015 Folsom... > > it's been happening for over six years, and I've been > going for most of that > time.... and what I love about it is that it's a true > mix of clubbers, > ravers, weirdos, dancers, drinkers, whatever.... > > and the music is what i love most.... the djs are > garth, jeno and simon..... > groovy-assed progressive house (they're the Wicked > crew, but the music at > ComeUnity is a little brighter than Wicked).... > occasionally a guest, and > they do something in the basement but i never make it > down there. > > (after all, it's a weeknight, so I get there early, > 10:30-ish, while the > dancefloor is empty... and leave around 12:30 when > it's getting crowded and > it's time for me to get some sleep before work in the > morning)... > > anyway -- next Wednesday, I'm having dinner ahead of > time with > Messiah/Karsten and Byroni, and hopefully some more > of you over-21 > househeads who wanna hang out and then get some solid > dancing in.... > > anyone interested? john lee, howz about you??? d > for dinner i'm thinking > maybe of Bucca di Beppo, which is a loud family-style > Italian place a block > away from 1015... > > anyone interested? > > leslie > > > > > Get your free, private email at > http://mail.excite.com/ > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best This bitch I dated once - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 20:23:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9517 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 20:23:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9486 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 20:23:45 -0000 Received: from web301.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 20:23:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401202458.14420.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.179.146.143] by web301.yahoomail.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:24:58 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:24:58 -0800 (PST) From: Miss E Subject: Re: R.A.W. - what does it stand for? To: BryanLee21@aol.com, mercutio@cloudfactory.org, tsheets@saturn5.com, akp2@duke.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk RUNNIN', baby, RUNNIN'.... --- BryanLee21@aol.com wrote: > I seriously heard it stood for Ruling All Wherehouses > > Bryan > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 20:43:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21155 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 20:43:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 21144 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 20:43:41 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 20:43:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401202732.22702.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [209.209.3.147] by web1; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:27:32 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:27:32 -0800 (PST) From: micron Subject: Re: history of our scene To: mike bolger , Ray Vonie , Greg Adair Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i did the flyer for that party. that was a cool party, def. one of the most UG parties that i have seen. i had a blast that night, good music, good people (only about 300) and a great space. :) micron ---mike bolger wrote: > > > Aries, '95 or '96. a $15 party with Garth, Andre Lucero and Mark E > Quark; back when Garth had dreads and Mark E Quark was San Diego. > > Party was on market right off of 6th street (!) Market st gets pretty > ugly at night but 6th st is just straight-up suicidal. the entrance to > the store front was open with 3 guys painting the interior and playing > techno on a boom box. as i was walking to the adress, avoiding eye > contact from some of the more aggressive noctural city people, and > double checking it to make sure i wasn't just spacing, i kinda merged in > with another pack of equally confused ravers who had just gotten off the > bus. we didn't say a word to each other or to the painters, but just > kind of gravitated together and walked into the storefront towards the > back door where a fourth guy open the door for us while cautiouslly > eyeing the market street traffic. it just seemed natural. i didn't > recoginze the door guy and he didn't say a word but slapped me 5 on my > way in. > > in the second room there was security, a pat-down, and a check for your > pre-sale tickets, from there they let us into the basement, and a pretty > big one at that, where the party was in full swing. full-on speak-easy > undergroung on market and 6th street on a weekend night. i've never seen > a party like that before or since, that party had a lot of balls and a > lot of class. > > > > > > > got started??? or about incredible parties that > > have happened?? or whatever.. > > > > =) it'd be a nice break from some of the negative > > posts lately, and maybe get > > > > people in a better mood!!! > > > > > > > > hope everyone is having a great day!!! it's been > > beautiful out lately... > > > > > > > > love and hugs and kisses, > > > > tina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/31/99 2:21:54 PM Pacific > > Standard Time, > > > > rayvonie@ix.netcom.com writes: > > > > > > > > << This is great that someone brought up this > > thread. > > > > > > > > If you all care to know some of the history > > about this scene, and the > > > > politics > > > > and drama behind it, then take a minute or a > > month to read the SFRave > > > > archives... packed full of every post, every > > thread, and every topic that has > > > > been discussed on this list. > > > > > > > > Another way is just to ask. Many people on > > this list do not take advantage > > > > of > > > > the fact that there are many promoters, and dj's > > right here listening and > > > > waiting for enthusiastic and genuine questions > > about the history and heritage > > > > of the music, the parties, and the culture. > > There are a lot of knowledge > > > > full > > > > people on this list, so just ask a question, and > > start a thread. I know > > > > that > > > > I ,as well as many others, would have a good > > time talking about many of the > > > > specifics of this culture, how things got to > > here, and were they are going... > > > > but someone has to ask the questions. > > > > > > > > Keep it mellow, Vlad > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 20:48:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24479 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 20:48:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 24471 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 20:48:42 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 20:48:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401203235.23682.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [209.209.3.147] by web1; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:32:35 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:32:35 -0800 (PST) From: micron Subject: Re: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ To: b i j o u , BeTTaViBe@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk minidiscs SUCK. i have one and have never been impressed with the sound quality, especially when i dupe it (i know that this depends on my tape deck too). go with DAT or a good tape deck, you'll be better off. the only thing about having an analog tape master is that u can only make so many copies of it before the tape begins to degrade and your quality goes down. that is the ONE advantage to minidisc, u can make as many copies as u want from the master without worrying about a degradation in sound quality. but to me it's not worth it to master it to minidisc. i babble..... :) micron ---b i j o u wrote: > > if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, > it's all about minidiscs! > > veanne :) > > > > From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST > > ok..heres the deal.. > i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the quality > is > hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys > sounds > shity... > how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound > quality.... > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 20:49:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25435 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 20:49:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 25393 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 20:49:45 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 20:49:45 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id dQYQa22929; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:48:06 -0500 (EST) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <91c201b7.3703db86@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:48:06 EST To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: age/race/ stupid people/cool people. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *yay* very intelligent and true post!!!!! =) anyone who didn't take the time to read it should!! very good points!!! have a beautiful sunny thursday afternoon everyone!!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/1/99 7:20:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: << This has got to be one of the more played out threads I've seen in the 3 years or whatever I've been on the list. Are you young? You might be stupid, a completely ridiculous drugged out, tagger fuckup with no clue what the hell this shit is all about except that boy it sure does beat the high school dance. Are you older? You might be a blockhead hipster who thinks he/she knows the score, yo umight have been there drugged out and tagging back in the day, but are just above that shit now, or you might be a yuppie dweeb who is tired of plur and just wants to find someone to give you head and backrubs, and will hit on people until you find this. Are you white? You might be a fucking boojwah dipshit with a silver plated pacifier who doesn't know funk from bunk, and thinks that biggin up Maya Angelou and liking Chris Rock Show makes you "down." Are you black? You might beat up pussy little kids for fun and rob and steal and break shit, and go to raves just to slang pills. Are you Asian? You might have a lowered Colt Vista with dope rims and travel in a huge pack and start fights and ignore everyone who isn't in your immediate posse. Are you latin? You might be hitting on my girlfriend/sister, and stealing cars from Oakland raves and selling oregeno to idiots. But, chances are, you're not! Chances are, if you are on this list, if you're going to underground parties, if you're out there dancing, smiling, brocking out, yelling for more when the party's over, listening to beats in your headphones, meeting new people you would never have met on the street...chances are you're above stereotypes. And I salute you, and I believe in you. There are a couple blisterpoppin, skullrattlin, dipshittin, stupid punk ass turdypants chunknuts in every single ethnic/age/gender group. That will never change. But one of the things that PLUR does not directly give props to, but to me is more or less the point of this whole lifestyle, in the social sense...is that we are all impossible to categorize. I am hippy-hop. What are you? Candy-punk? Thuggish-queer? What? You're your own shit. Do it up, do it up however you like. A lot of you who are either from the Bay and haven't travelled much, or from the Bay and sort of not paying attention to the rest of the world might be missing this important fact: we have a very very very diverse makeup going on here. And it's rather politically correct, which in this case is a good thing...it makes us accepting, and open-minded for the most part. And that is beautiful. Because in the perfect world, to continue over-using this little shred of conventional wisdom, it's not where you're from...it's where you're at. I trust yall. I trust you to do the best with what you have, be it your age, your skin color, your sexual preference. Be happy with it. Try not to be an idiot. And JSL, if you're reading this, I love you to death, and I just want to know what's going to happen when your kids are 16 and acting like clowns...will you flame them? =D Eklektic, FGFriday, Saturday who knows....I'll see you there, suckers! 10-4, duh, max This may be the most "talking to hear his own voice" post I've ever made. big up to ME. =D >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 20:53:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28437 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 20:53:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 28379 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 20:53:40 -0000 Received: from smtp.10fold.com (38.225.85.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 20:53:40 -0000 Received: from marin.10fold.com by smtp.10fold.com via smtpd (for taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 20:53:39 UT Received: from SFDOM-Message_Server by ngwnameserver2.10fold.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:47:04 -0800 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:46:19 -0800 From: "Cassandra Thomas" To: "Mark Silverman" , , , , , , Subject: NRR: Your Power and Electricity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_DF89E658.11701DF5" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_DF89E658.11701DF5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hey, i just wanted to forward this information my roommate sent me because = I have read great things about this company...so if you haven't already = switched from PG&E i encourage you to conder cleen&green -cass --=_DF89E658.11701DF5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from sfgw1a.10fold.com by ngwnameserver.10fold.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:36:49 -0700 Received: from repop1.jps.net ([209.63.224.238]) by sfgw1a.10fold.com via smtpd (for provo.10fold.com [137.34.96.226]) with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 20:43:24 UT Received: from rsilvers (209-239-203-38.oak.jps.net [209.239.203.38]) by repop1.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA05311; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:42:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002b01be7bb7$647874c0$7dd0efd1@rsilvers> From: "R. 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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BE7B74.54CB8780-- --=_DF89E658.11701DF5-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:07:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6194 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:07:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 6185 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:07:09 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:07:09 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id aYQSa08652; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:03:52 -0500 (EST) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <5b1d8a6f.3703df38@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:03:52 EST To: waynerad@hotmail.com, eeelips@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: paging wayne, ravergirl and jedi bitch Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 3/31/99 8:35:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, waynerad@hotmail.com writes: << You know, I had no idea you were on this list, Jeannie. One of my CD's has your name on it. So, um... hi :)>> Well, hello to you as well! =) And yes you are correct about the CD. The Moda CD is the one I think you are talking about! There may be more (*^*) but I think you are talking about Moda's!!!! >>Nice to know you're so pleased with your mate. So you & Vlad have been together for 9 years, eh? I've never had a relationship last that long. Lemme see, that's about 234 times longer than my longest-lasting relationship.>> Well, your time will come. Trust me. You will find someone special and when you come across that person you will know it and will never want it to let the person go! Your journey is never far. You too one day will want to share your life's path with someone who will be there in every way. The most inspirational people are the ones that have learned and experienced the love of each other. FACT: All we have is the love of one another! I met Wonderful 70 year old couple while vacationing in Aruba and after meeting them I look at relationships in a hole new way!!! They were Angels undercover and Taught me Valuable lessons I will never forget!! Love is the ultimate reward of life! > Behind every good man there has got to be a good women >>In other words, if you're single, like me, you suck!>> No, you are learning your own individuality right now.. A time will come and the person you want to share your life with will only Compliment your journey. They will teach you things and you will teach them as well... Relationships are very complex and with understanding and caring and communicating it will be a Greatest reward to your life's journey! >>P.S. But do you swallow? Uhh!!! Nevermind. >> LOL, Now, Now settle down!!! This is Sfraves not Sfsex! Take care... Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:12:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10507 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:12:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 10497 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:12:39 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:12:39 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04156; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:12:35 -0800 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:07:11 -0800 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB8F9@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'micron'" , "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: NRR: minidiscs Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:07:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just did this very thing (mastered on minidisc then dubbed a tape from it) and i am very impressed with it. just my two cents. eric j -----Original Message----- From: micron [mailto:micron1@rocketmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 12:33 PM To: b i j o u; BeTTaViBe@aol.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ minidiscs SUCK. i have one and have never been impressed with the sound quality, especially when i dupe it (i know that this depends on my tape deck too). go with DAT or a good tape deck, you'll be better off. the only thing about having an analog tape master is that u can only make so many copies of it before the tape begins to degrade and your quality goes down. that is the ONE advantage to minidisc, u can make as many copies as u want from the master without worrying about a degradation in sound quality. but to me it's not worth it to master it to minidisc. i babble..... :) micron ---b i j o u wrote: > > if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, > it's all about minidiscs! > > veanne :) > > > > From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST > > ok..heres the deal.. > i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the quality > is > hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys > sounds > shity... > how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound > quality.... > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:15:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13113 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:15:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 13076 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:15:00 -0000 Received: from web507.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:15:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401211830.16032.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.239.197.171] by web507.yahoomail.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:18:30 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:18:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Holly G." Subject: Re: age/race/ stupid people/cool people. To: MoonChyld1@aol.com, maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't usually post re: these issues. I try and keep my posts light and casual but here's my take on this. Look outside people it's a beautiful sunny day. We should be celebrating who we are and that we have this kick ass scene to enjoy for yet another killer spring/summer season. I'm sending positive vibes and love that our community becomes stronger! Peace and light y'all, Holly g. --- MoonChyld1@aol.com wrote: > *yay* very intelligent and true post!!!!! =) anyone > who didn't take the time > to read it should!! very good points!!! > > have a beautiful sunny thursday afternoon > everyone!!!! > > love and hugs and kisses, > tina > > In a message dated 4/1/99 7:20:29 AM Pacific Standard > Time, > maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: > > << > This has got to be one of the more played out > threads I've seen in the 3 > years or whatever I've been on the list. > > Are you young? You might be stupid, a completely > ridiculous drugged out, > tagger fuckup with no clue what the hell this shit > is all about except > that boy it sure does beat the high school dance. > > Are you older? You might be a blockhead hipster who > thinks he/she knows > the score, yo umight have been there drugged out and > tagging back in the > day, but are just above that shit now, or you might > be a yuppie dweeb who > is tired of plur and just wants to find someone to > give you head and > backrubs, and will hit on people until you find > this. > > Are you white? You might be a fucking boojwah > dipshit with a silver > plated pacifier who doesn't know funk from bunk, and > thinks that biggin up > Maya Angelou and liking Chris Rock Show makes you > "down." > > Are you black? You might beat up pussy little kids > for fun and rob and > steal and break shit, and go to raves just to slang > pills. > > Are you Asian? You might have a lowered Colt Vista > with dope rims and > travel in a huge pack and start fights and ignore > everyone who isn't in > your immediate posse. > > Are you latin? You might be hitting on my > girlfriend/sister, and stealing > cars from Oakland raves and selling oregeno to > idiots. > > But, chances are, you're not! Chances are, if you > are on this list, if > you're going to underground parties, if you're out > there dancing, smiling, > brocking out, yelling for more when the party's > over, listening to beats > in your headphones, meeting new people you would > never have met on the > street...chances are you're above stereotypes. And > I salute you, and I > believe in you. > > There are a couple blisterpoppin, skullrattlin, > dipshittin, stupid punk > ass turdypants chunknuts in every single > ethnic/age/gender group. That > will never change. But one of the things that PLUR > does not directly give > props to, but to me is more or less the point of > this whole lifestyle, in > the social sense...is that we are all impossible to > categorize. I am > hippy-hop. What are you? Candy-punk? > Thuggish-queer? What? You're > your own shit. Do it up, do it up however you like. > > A lot of you who are either from the Bay and haven't > travelled much, or > from the Bay and sort of not paying attention to the > rest of the world > might be missing this important fact: we have a very > very very diverse > makeup going on here. And it's rather politically > correct, which in this > case is a good thing...it makes us accepting, and > open-minded for the most > part. And that is beautiful. Because in the > perfect world, to > continue over-using this little shred of > conventional wisdom, it's not > where you're from...it's where you're at. > > I trust yall. I trust you to do the best with what > you have, be it your > age, your skin color, your sexual preference. Be > happy with it. Try not > to be an idiot. And JSL, if you're reading this, I > love you to death, and > I just want to know what's going to happen when your > kids are 16 and > acting like clowns...will you flame them? =D > > Eklektic, FGFriday, Saturday who knows....I'll see > you there, suckers! > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > This may be the most "talking to hear his own voice" > post I've ever made. > big up to ME. =D > >> > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:30:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23946 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:30:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 23919 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:30:03 -0000 Received: from web215.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:30:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401213122.10239.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web215.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:31:22 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:31:22 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day outside! I am telling you, this is the kind of day that cavemen came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! Dude! Steve the Articulate One =p === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best This bitch I dated once - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:30:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25462 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:30:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25444 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:30:48 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:30:48 -0000 Received: from godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.43]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id QAA07106; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id QAA09320; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:21:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:21:30 -0500 (EST) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla2.acpub.duke.edu To: MoonChyld1@AOL.COM cc: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: age/race/ stupid people/cool people. In-Reply-To: <91c201b7.3703db86@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have to interject with my opnion rightnow because i think max is right on with this letter. i think we as californians don't always realize ho lucky we are to live in the are we do, espeacillay the bay area. i've traveled extensivel to thailand, malasia, australia, new zealand, hong kong, amsterdam, frnace, spain, portugal..... the list goes on, and i'm only 21. i'v seen many places most poeple would dream of. i've also had to expirience life in the south, and from all of my out-of-cali expiriences i have learned to appreciate the fuck out of where i grew up and live now. i came back from school, very depressed at how life was in the south. i thought racial tensions had changed, but they haven't in some areas. almost all of the workers in food service and janitorial work at duke university (where i was at college) are black, and most of the students had no respect for them. the minority students self-segregated themselves. acceptance of african americans, and asians, and who ever else was not high on people's list. you could walk a mile or two off east campus of duke and hit a straight up african american ghetto, where poeple lived in obvious poverty, with crack whores lining the streets and students from duke buying there coke, whatever (cuz you know they've got the money!) i lived in an ignorant gothic wonderland, and it made me sick. i could see someone's face light up in the cafeteria if they were giving me my food and i called them sir or maam, and said thank you, and actually made effort to have a conversation. i missed the bay area for just that reason: we have such a diversity of poeple and activities here, and most poeple i know have a lot of respect for those of all races. not every where in the country is like that. for those of you who do live here, i would suggest you think about everything here that you enjoy, and makes you happy (including our scene, which beleive me is so far beyond the scene in the south.) i love this place, and i would never want to live anywhere else - i hope all of you appreciate cali like i do, and get out and enjoy all the things this place has to offer (besides just parties, because raving is a way of life, but life is not just about raving.) and i just ranted and raved at all you, but i hope some of you get something beneficial out of my expiriences. i'm here to share what i have. much love, amber In a message dated 4/1/99 7:20:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: A lot of you who are either from the Bay and haven't travelled much, or from the Bay and sort of not paying attention to the rest of the world might be missing this important fact: we have a very very very diverse makeup going on here. And it's rather politically correct, which in this case is a good thing...it makes us accepting, and open-minded for the most part. And that is beautiful. Because in the perfect world, to continue over-using this little shred of conventional wisdom, it's not where you're from...it's where you're at. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:32:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26274 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:32:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26266 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:32:15 -0000 Received: from vm4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO vm4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:32:15 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-16.splitrock.net [209.156.149.131]) by vm4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA105702; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:32:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3703E56B.E2F95D97@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:30:20 -0800 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: micron CC: b i j o u , BeTTaViBe@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ References: <19990401203235.23682.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The thing about minidiscs is they use a form of lossy compression called ATRAC to fit all that audio on those little discs. You always lose sound quality from lossy compression and if your signal is all distorted out in the first place the with minidiscs you can really tell . But the input signal is always the key. When you're going to DAT or Minidisc always record the levels a bit lower then you think you should. You only have so much headroom and if you record high levels then some of the sound will be clipped. Then when you go to record onto tape or whatever just adjust the recording level on the tapedeck to compensate. Perfect tapes everytime. peace- Joe Lanzon micron wrote: > minidiscs SUCK. i have one and have never been impressed with the > sound quality, especially when i dupe it (i know that this depends on > my tape deck too). > > go with DAT or a good tape deck, you'll be better off. the only thing > about having an analog tape master is that u can only make so many > copies of it before the tape begins to degrade and your quality goes > down. that is the ONE advantage to minidisc, u can make as many copies > as u want from the master without worrying about a degradation in > sound quality. but to me it's not worth it to master it to minidisc. > > i babble..... > > :) > micron > > ---b i j o u wrote: > > > > if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, > > it's all about minidiscs! > > > > veanne :) > > > > > > > > From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST > > > > ok..heres the deal.. > > i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the > quality > > is > > hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys > > sounds > > shity... > > how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound > > quality.... > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:34:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27971 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:34:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27835 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:34:33 -0000 Received: from f296.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.187) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:34:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 81403 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 1999 21:34:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401213414.81402.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:34:14 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: micron1@rocketmail.com, youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, telkionish@fletch.fix.net Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: history of our scene Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:34:14 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I went to that party!! :-) that was totally kewl and on the DL but I thought the painter guys were playing rock music?? at least they were when I showed up. Def. a phat party. Wasn't that Jose's party one of the guys the does by the people partys?? see ya, Macadio (Tekno-Slut) >From: micron >To: mike bolger ,Ray Vonie , Greg Adair >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: history of our scene >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:27:32 -0800 (PST) > >i did the flyer for that party. that was a cool party, def. one of >the most UG parties that i have seen. > >i had a blast that night, good music, good people (only about 300) and >a great space. > >:) >micron > > > > >---mike bolger wrote: >> >> >> Aries, '95 or '96. a $15 party with Garth, Andre Lucero and Mark E >> Quark; back when Garth had dreads and Mark E Quark was San Diego. >> >> Party was on market right off of 6th street (!) Market st gets pretty >> ugly at night but 6th st is just straight-up suicidal. the entrance to >> the store front was open with 3 guys painting the interior and playing >> techno on a boom box. as i was walking to the adress, avoiding eye >> contact from some of the more aggressive noctural city people, and >> double checking it to make sure i wasn't just spacing, i kinda >merged in >> with another pack of equally confused ravers who had just gotten off >the >> bus. we didn't say a word to each other or to the painters, but just >> kind of gravitated together and walked into the storefront towards the >> back door where a fourth guy open the door for us while cautiouslly >> eyeing the market street traffic. it just seemed natural. i didn't >> recoginze the door guy and he didn't say a word but slapped me 5 on my >> way in. >> >> in the second room there was security, a pat-down, and a check for >your >> pre-sale tickets, from there they let us into the basement, and a >pretty >> big one at that, where the party was in full swing. full-on speak-easy >> undergroung on market and 6th street on a weekend night. i've never >seen >> a party like that before or since, that party had a lot of balls and a >> lot of class. >> >> >> >> > > > got started??? or about incredible parties that >> > have happened?? or whatever.. >> > > > =) it'd be a nice break from some of the negative >> > posts lately, and maybe get >> > > > people in a better mood!!! >> > > > >> > > > hope everyone is having a great day!!! it's been >> > beautiful out lately... >> > > > >> > > > love and hugs and kisses, >> > > > tina >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > In a message dated 3/31/99 2:21:54 PM Pacific >> > Standard Time, >> > > > rayvonie@ix.netcom.com writes: >> > > > >> > > > << This is great that someone brought up this >> > thread. >> > > > >> > > > If you all care to know some of the history >> > about this scene, and the >> > > > politics >> > > > and drama behind it, then take a minute or a >> > month to read the SFRave >> > > > archives... packed full of every post, every >> > thread, and every topic that has >> > > > been discussed on this list. >> > > > >> > > > Another way is just to ask. Many people on >> > this list do not take advantage >> > > > of >> > > > the fact that there are many promoters, and dj's >> > right here listening and >> > > > waiting for enthusiastic and genuine questions >> > about the history and heritage >> > > > of the music, the parties, and the culture. >> > There are a lot of knowledge >> > > > full >> > > > people on this list, so just ask a question, and >> > start a thread. I know >> > > > that >> > > > I ,as well as many others, would have a good >> > time talking about many of the >> > > > specifics of this culture, how things got to >> > here, and were they are going... >> > > > but someone has to ask the questions. >> > > > >> > > > Keep it mellow, Vlad >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > >> > >> >> Do You Yahoo!? >> >> >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:35:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28922 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:35:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 28906 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:35:27 -0000 Received: from web130.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.199) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:35:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401213622.27134.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web130.yahoomail.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:36:22 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:36:22 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Gathering info? To: Naomi Thompson , "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk April 3 (Saturday) - the Gathering Onionz (Chocolate Factory NYC), Huggie (Global Energy Musik LA), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum LA), Daisy, Maze, Marcus, JP, Lucas, Tom LG, Jon Santos, UFO, Tony, Jeno (Wicked Crew SF), Josh, Eric Spire. INFO: 415.905.8888 ********************************************* I'm not even going to ask for a meeting location; they never work (for me). I'll ware the same pants as I did in GIGABEATZ. That should make it somewhat EZ to narrow down which one I am. Also, if I get cold, I'll have a blu/gold Adidas jacket with a big emblem on the back. here's me in the back ground. (BLK/WHT pants) http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sac/Gigabeatz/Mvc-019f.jpg *HUGZ* pat Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:40:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1343 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:40:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 1330 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:40:13 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:40:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401214307.15425.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.101.174.4] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:43:07 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: M Downer Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles To: colostamy@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why are you on your computer then? Matt --- Creamy Goodness wrote: > Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day > outside! > I am telling you, this is the kind of day that > cavemen > came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! Dude! > > Steve the Articulate One =p > > === > Steve Best > Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape > Home (408)253-4982 > Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best > This bitch I dated once - (540)662-5789 > Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 > Do You Yahoo!? > > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:42:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2689 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:41:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2677 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:41:55 -0000 Received: from vm4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO vm4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:41:55 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-16.splitrock.net [209.156.149.131]) by vm4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA89270; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:41:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3703E7AC.4A6DD065@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:39:56 -0800 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: micron CC: b i j o u , BeTTaViBe@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ References: <19990401203235.23682.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0DFA7DF776E000489092BFDD" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --------------0DFA7DF776E000489092BFDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One more thing peoples, Here is a little website that tells all about reproducing tapes, levels and tapedecks and such. Must read material. Phish.Net FAQ: Taping Levels http://www.phish.net/faq/tlevels.html -peace- Joe Lanzon micron wrote: > minidiscs SUCK. i have one and have never been impressed with the > sound quality, especially when i dupe it (i know that this depends on > my tape deck too). > > go with DAT or a good tape deck, you'll be better off. the only thing > about having an analog tape master is that u can only make so many > copies of it before the tape begins to degrade and your quality goes > down. that is the ONE advantage to minidisc, u can make as many copies > as u want from the master without worrying about a degradation in > sound quality. but to me it's not worth it to master it to minidisc. > > i babble..... > > :) > micron > > ---b i j o u wrote: > > > > if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, > > it's all about minidiscs! > > > > veanne :) > > > > > > > > From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST > > > > ok..heres the deal.. > > i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the > quality > > is > > hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys > > sounds > > shity... > > how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound > > quality.... > > > > > > > > --------------0DFA7DF776E000489092BFDD Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One more thing peoples, Here is a little website that tells all about reproducing tapes, levels and tapedecks and such.  Must read material.

 Phish.Net FAQ: Taping Levels
http://www.phish.net/faq/tlevels.html

-peace- Joe Lanzon
 

micron wrote:

minidiscs SUCK. i have one and have never been impressed with the
sound quality, especially when i dupe it (i know that this depends on
my tape deck too).

go with DAT or a good tape deck, you'll be better off.  the only thing
about having an analog tape master is that u can only make so many
copies of it before the tape begins to degrade and your quality goes
down. that is the ONE advantage to minidisc, u can make as many copies
as u want from the master without worrying about a degradation in
sound quality. but to me it's not worth it to master it to minidisc.

i babble.....

:)
micron

---b i j o u <poeie@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> if you want to record your mix with good sound quality,
> it's all about minidiscs!
>
> veanne :)
>
>
>
> From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST
>
> ok..heres the deal..
> i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the
quality
> is
> hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys
> sounds
> shity...
> how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound
> quality....
>
>
>
>

--------------0DFA7DF776E000489092BFDD-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 21:54:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10075 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 21:54:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 10057 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 21:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 21:54:27 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:51:00 -0800 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id 9B2F34EDE84F11D282F900A0C9CFADA2 for plus 4 more; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:50:59 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: , "'micron'" Cc: "'b i j o u'" , , Subject: RE: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:53:30 -0800 Message-ID: <001c01be7c8a$156abb80$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3703E56B.E2F95D97@prodigy.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-SLUIDL: 7A49FBA4-E84F11D2-82F900A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You also have to check the version of ATRAC your MD has. The newer ones with 4.0 or 4.5 are just about indistiguishable from DAT. -------------------------------- Gerlando The thing about minidiscs is they use a form of lossy compression called ATRAC to fit all that audio on those little discs. You always lose sound quality from lossy compression and if your signal is all distorted out in the first place the with minidiscs you can really tell . But the input signal is always the key. When you're going to DAT or Minidisc always record the levels a bit lower then you think you should. You only have so much headroom and if you record high levels then some of the sound will be clipped. Then when you go to record onto tape or whatever just adjust the recording level on the tapedeck to compensate. Perfect tapes everytime. peace- Joe Lanzon micron wrote: > minidiscs SUCK. i have one and have never been impressed with the > sound quality, especially when i dupe it (i know that this depends on > my tape deck too). > > go with DAT or a good tape deck, you'll be better off. the only thing > about having an analog tape master is that u can only make so many > copies of it before the tape begins to degrade and your quality goes > down. that is the ONE advantage to minidisc, u can make as many copies > as u want from the master without worrying about a degradation in > sound quality. but to me it's not worth it to master it to minidisc. > > i babble..... > > :) > micron > > ---b i j o u wrote: > > > > if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, > > it's all about minidiscs! > > > > veanne :) > > > > > > > > From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST > > > > ok..heres the deal.. > > i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the > quality > > is > > hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys > > sounds > > shity... > > how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound > > quality.... > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:02:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15125 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:02:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 15107 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:02:35 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:02:35 -0000 Received: from BluSnday@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id rEa0001232; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:36:14 -0500 (EST) From: BluSnday@aol.com Message-ID: <7ac20dda.3703e6ce@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:36:14 EST To: colostamy@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/1/99 9:30:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!, colostamy@yahoo.com writes: > Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day outside! > I am telling you, this is the kind of day that cavemen > came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! Dude! ***Hrmm... it's cloudy and windy here... in fact a large branch just hit the window (yikes!) =P If it's gorgeous where you are, enjoy it! *steph* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:07:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18206 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:07:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 18198 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:07:03 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:07:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401221054.25169.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:10:53 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:10:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles To: BluSnday@aol.com, colostamy@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its beautiful in Sunnyvale!!! The clouds are picture perfect, and the sunny is shining. Enjoy the weekend! Jessica --- BluSnday@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/1/99 9:30:10 PM !!!First > Boot!!!, colostamy@yahoo.com > writes: > > > Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day > outside! > > I am telling you, this is the kind of day that > cavemen > > came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! > Dude! > > ***Hrmm... it's cloudy and windy here... in fact a > large branch just hit the > window (yikes!) =P If it's gorgeous where you are, > enjoy it! > > *steph* > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:10:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20120 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:10:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 20095 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:10:19 -0000 Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:10:19 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB605-09.splitrock.net [209.252.6.9]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22446; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:09:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3703EE4A.19E2DFF8@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:08:11 -0800 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gpxl@pcgr.com CC: "'micron'" , "'b i j o u'" , BeTTaViBe@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ References: <001c01be7c8a$156abb80$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Personally I am going to DAT. But I agree minidisc is a very good source for recording your mixes onto for those who don't have the $700 bucks to shell out for a DAT player, and for general use it beats a tape deck for sure. -peace- Joe Lanzon Gerlando Piro wrote: > You also have to check the version of ATRAC your MD has. The newer ones with > 4.0 or 4.5 are just about indistiguishable from DAT. > > -------------------------------- > Gerlando > > The thing about minidiscs is they use a form of lossy compression called > ATRAC to fit all that audio on those little discs. You always lose sound > quality from lossy compression and if your signal is all distorted out in > the first place the with minidiscs you can really tell . But the input > signal is always the key. When you're going to DAT or Minidisc always > record the levels a bit lower then you think you should. You only have so > much headroom and if you record high levels then some of the sound will be > clipped. Then when you go to record onto tape or whatever just adjust the > recording level on the tapedeck to compensate. Perfect tapes everytime. > > peace- Joe Lanzon > > micron wrote: > > > minidiscs SUCK. i have one and have never been impressed with the > > sound quality, especially when i dupe it (i know that this depends on > > my tape deck too). > > > > go with DAT or a good tape deck, you'll be better off. the only thing > > about having an analog tape master is that u can only make so many > > copies of it before the tape begins to degrade and your quality goes > > down. that is the ONE advantage to minidisc, u can make as many copies > > as u want from the master without worrying about a degradation in > > sound quality. but to me it's not worth it to master it to minidisc. > > > > i babble..... > > > > :) > > micron > > > > ---b i j o u wrote: > > > > > > if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, > > > it's all about minidiscs! > > > > > > veanne :) > > > > > > > > > > > > From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > > > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST > > > > > > ok..heres the deal.. > > > i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the > > quality > > > is > > > hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys > > > sounds > > > shity... > > > how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound > > > quality.... > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:21:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27176 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:21:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 27156 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:21:36 -0000 Received: from wya-oe16.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:21:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 15435 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 1999 22:21:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401222109.15434.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.173.42.100 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:21:07 PST X-Originating-IP: [205.173.42.100] From: "Kriss *" To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, BluSnday@aol.com, colostamy@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:21:07 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Its beautiful in Sunnyvale!!! The clouds are picture perfect, and the >sunny is shining. yeah, i just looked out the window at the sky and expected to see the words "the simpsons" coming out from those clouds! sorry, i'm a crackhead today. but after looking at the beautiful sky last night (it was gorgeous!), i decided that i'm going to try to take moments to appreciate the beauty in life at least once each day. my life is pretty darn good, especially when compared to the terror in yugoslavia... =( maybe we could all send some positive thoughts that direction & people over there will catch a clue? have a wonderful day everyone! with love, kriss =) > >Enjoy the weekend! > >Jessica > >--- BluSnday@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 4/1/99 9:30:10 PM !!!First >> Boot!!!, colostamy@yahoo.com >> writes: >> >> > Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day >> outside! >> > I am telling you, this is the kind of day that >> cavemen >> > came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! >> Dude! >> >> ***Hrmm... it's cloudy and windy here... in fact a >> large branch just hit the >> window (yikes!) =P If it's gorgeous where you are, >> enjoy it! >> >> *steph* >> > >Do You Yahoo!? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:37:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5763 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:37:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 5754 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:37:20 -0000 Received: from falco.kuci.uci.edu (qmailr@128.195.131.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:37:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 10697 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:31:06 -0000 Received: from falco.kuci.uci.edu (cnoot@128.195.131.10) by falco.kuci.uci.edu with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:31:06 -0000 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:31:05 -0800 (PST) From: Carrie Noot To: SF Raves Mailing List Subject: NRR: Don't Buy Gas on Friday 4/2/99 (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok well i know there was supposed to be one later in april, but i guess there's another one. i saw gas today for 1.87 so i'm down for this shit. support the cause! carrie Carrie Anne Noot cnoot@kuci.org > > > > > GAS OUT > > > > > > > > > THE GREAT "GAS OUT" > > > It's time we did something about the price > > > of gasoline in Northern California! We are all sick and > > > tired of high prices when there are literally > > > millions of gallons in storage. > > > Know what I found out? If there was just > > > ONE day when no one purchased any > > > gasoline, prices would drop drastically. > > > The so-called oil cartel has decided to > > > slow production by some 2 million barrels > > > per day to drive up the price. I have decided > > > to see how many Northern Californians we can get > > > to NOT BUY ANY GASOLINE on one > > > particular day! > > > Let's have a GAS OUT! Do not buy any > > > gasoline on FRIDAY APRIL 2, 1999!!!!! > > > Buy on Thursday before, or Saturday after. > > > Do not buy any gasoline on FRIDAY, > > > APRIL 2, 1999. > > > Wanna help? Send this message to > > > everyone you know. Ask them to do the same. > > > All we need is a few million to participate in > > > order to make a difference. > > > Let me know how many you will send out. > > > We CAN make a difference. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > ======================================================== http://www.INVESTools.com Sandra Horwitz INVESTools, Inc. Director of Finance 3698 Haven Avenue (650) 482-3050 #223 Suite A fax (650) 482-3060 Redwood City, CA 94063  From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:44:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8433 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:44:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 8421 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:44:51 -0000 Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:44:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401224215.18383.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.215] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:42:15 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:42:15 -0800 (PST) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: paging wayne, ravergirl and jedi bitch To: Ravergrl27@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a very inspiring tale you have to tell. Thank you! I like romance. No more BBP though, please. I thought that was kind of mean. Don't you like babies?love,Julie --- Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > OK... So yeah you must either be new to the scene or > you never noticed that > he puts them on his flyers! IM his good luck charm! > At least I hope so...And > it is the sweetest thing EVER. I have LOVED this > truly beautiful man for > almost 9 years and will continue Loving him as long > as he lets me... We are > the peas the make the pod! And as far as if he means > it. I know he does! > Because he is my world and IM am his....=) So I know > he means everything he > says, even I Love You FOREVER... I know we are they > longest existing > Relationship in this scene. > > Makes me FEELGOOD to know that I have a man that > loves me for who I am... He > is the most precious thing in my life and I would do > anything and I mean > anything for the greatest person I have ever met! > Form the first day I met him > I knew he was one of the most sweetest guys I had > ever come across! Also as > far as having a good head on his shoulders, yeah he > does... I think I have had > a little something to do with that!! =) Besides I > love that head of his and > everything that is attached to it as well!!!! =) > Yummy!!! =oP > > Behind every good man there has got to be a good > women!!! Behind every good > women there is a good man!!! So I think we are > perfectly CRAZY for one > another... OK, Now that I have grossed you all out > with all my fuzzy warm > goggly love stuff Its time for me to go and have > dinner with my snuggle > bear!!! Later... > > Hugs*** > Jeannie > > > In a message dated 3/31/99 2:23:57 PM Pacific > Standard Time, eeelips@yahoo.com > writes: > > << Jeannie, I am holding a flyer in my hands that > says,"Jeannie, I love you > always & forever, Vlad". Vlad seems to have a pretty > good head on his > shoulders, I am > sure he means it. >> > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:51:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14358 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:51:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 14333 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:51:38 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:51:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401225433.24368.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:54:33 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:54:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles To: Kriss * , BluSnday@aol.com, colostamy@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Your right, I betcha if I do look hard enough I will see "the simpsons"!! And you are right about last night too, I saw the moon hide in and out of the clouds, lighting them up, they looked electric!! I made everyone of my friends look at the moon lit sky last night, it was amazing. I am glad you noticed too Kriss, isnt it exciting that two friends in two seperate places were looking up at the same beautiful sky, thinking the same thing, on the same night. I love how everything in the universe ties together, it amazing =) We really do need to send them positive energy, prayers, and also take into consideration how lucky, lucky, lucky we are. Peace, Jessica --- Kriss * wrote: > > > >Its beautiful in Sunnyvale!!! The clouds are picture > perfect, and the > > >sunny is shining. > > yeah, i just looked out the window at the sky and > expected to see the > words "the simpsons" coming out from those clouds! > > sorry, i'm a crackhead today. but after looking at > the beautiful sky > last night (it was gorgeous!), i decided that i'm > going to try to take > moments to appreciate the beauty in life at least > once each day. > > my life is pretty darn good, especially when compared > to the terror in > yugoslavia... =( maybe we could all send some > positive thoughts that > direction & people over there will catch a clue? > > have a wonderful day everyone! > > with love, > kriss =) > > > > > > > > > >Enjoy the weekend! > > > > > >Jessica > > > > > >--- BluSnday@aol.com wrote: > > >> In a message dated 4/1/99 9:30:10 PM !!!First > > >> Boot!!!, colostamy@yahoo.com > > >> writes: > > >> > > >> > Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day > > >> outside! > > >> > I am telling you, this is the kind of day that > > >> cavemen > > >> > came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! > > >> Dude! > > >> > > >> ***Hrmm... it's cloudy and windy here... in fact a > > >> large branch just hit the > > >> window (yikes!) =P If it's gorgeous where you > are, > > >> enjoy it! > > >> > > >> *steph* > > >> > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > http://www.hotmail.com > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:51:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14749 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:51:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 14590 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:51:47 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:51:47 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA30193 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:51:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990401145343.007e7100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:53:43 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: NRR: Sunshine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's sunny today!!! That's all I had to say. I dunno, it just made me me happy... and you guys should all be happy too. I just got done with classes and got myself a strawberry fro-yo to enjoy in the sun and today turned out to be a pretty good day because of it. See you at feel good friday... -Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:53:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16030 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:53:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 16013 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:53:28 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:53:28 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id yJMEa09798 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:52:38 -0500 (EST) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:52:38 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 (AND MY HOUSE!!) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I totally know how you feel man! I dont know what it is about this weekend, but my house was broken into on friday before F8. They stole my DVD player, VCR, Playstation, home theatre with 5 speakers and a 3 disk CD changer, discman, walkman, computer, monitor, keyboard, CD player, about 20 movies and a bunch of other things. I was so upset! What makes it even worse is that all my trance CD's were in the CD players that were stolen, so i barely have any good music to listen to now. I'm not a violent person, but i hope whoever broke into your car and whoever broke into my house die the most painful and most horrifying death imaginable. I dont know what the fuck is wrong with this world. And what makes it even worse is that the police are basically doing jack shit about it adn even if they get caught, they'll more than likely get let go cause there's no room for burglars in jail anymore! Maybe i should have taken up this proffession; fuck blockbuster! Anyways, i'm just venting right now cause i'm really upset. My cordless phone broke, and the burglars stole my other phone, so i'm really upset. (i'm at my friend's house right now incase anyone is wondering) I started slamming my door back and forth so hard today it ripped half the posters off my wall and my broken cordless phone is laying in about 6 different pieces right now. Well, you can expect to see me on at least 2 hits of E at raves for a while. Let's all hope that the Karma police will come bust some ass around here; whoever it was that broke into your car and whoever broke into my house. --SCott-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:54:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17455 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:54:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 17447 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:54:41 -0000 Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:54:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401225344.16593.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:53:44 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:53:44 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles To: Jess ica , Kriss * , BluSnday@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, its like that movie with that mouse Fievel, when they sang "Somewhere....out....there, beneath a clear blue night, some....ones thinking of.....me" Okay, I will shut up :p Steve =) PS - Hey Kriss, I havent seen you in a coons age, how you been? *mwah* --- Jess ica wrote: > Your right, I betcha if I do look hard enough I will > see "the > simpsons"!! And you are right about last night too, > I saw the moon hide > in and out of the clouds, lighting them up, they > looked electric!! I > made everyone of my friends look at the moon lit sky > last night, it was > amazing. I am glad you noticed too Kriss, isnt it > exciting that two > friends in two seperate places were looking up at the > same beautiful > sky, thinking the same thing, on the same night. I > love how everything > in the universe ties together, it amazing =) > > We really do need to send them positive energy, > prayers, and also take > into consideration how lucky, lucky, lucky we are. > > Peace, > Jessica > > --- Kriss * wrote: > > > > > > >Its beautiful in Sunnyvale!!! The clouds are > picture > > perfect, and the > > > > >sunny is shining. > > > > yeah, i just looked out the window at the sky and > > expected to see the > > words "the simpsons" coming out from those clouds! > > > > sorry, i'm a crackhead today. but after looking at > > the beautiful sky > > last night (it was gorgeous!), i decided that i'm > > going to try to take > > moments to appreciate the beauty in life at least > > once each day. > > > > my life is pretty darn good, especially when > compared > > to the terror in > > yugoslavia... =( maybe we could all send some > > positive thoughts that > > direction & people over there will catch a clue? > > > > have a wonderful day everyone! > > > > with love, > > kriss =) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Enjoy the weekend! > > > > > > > > > >Jessica > > > > > > > > > >--- BluSnday@aol.com wrote: > > > > >> In a message dated 4/1/99 9:30:10 PM !!!First > > > > >> Boot!!!, colostamy@yahoo.com > > > > >> writes: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day > > > > >> outside! > > > > >> > I am telling you, this is the kind of day > that > > > > >> cavemen > > > > >> > came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh > man! > > > > >> Dude! > > > > >> > > > > >> ***Hrmm... it's cloudy and windy here... in fact > a > > > > >> large branch just hit the > > > > >> window (yikes!) =P If it's gorgeous where you > > are, > > > > >> enjoy it! > > > > >> > > > > >> *steph* > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:57:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19014 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:57:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18998 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:57:14 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:57:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401225619.14658.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:56:19 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:56:19 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 (AND MY HOUSE!!) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Nows your chance to start stocking up on jungle! Just kidding man, that really sucks. I had somebody break into my last car, it was funny, a cop showed up at my door, and I didnt have my license at the time, and hes asking me if thats my car parked up on the street, and I am thinking "Oh shit", so I am like, uh, yeah, and hes goes, well somebody broke into it. So I guess I broke even ;P Steve =) --- Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > > I totally know how you feel man! I dont know what > it is about this > weekend, but my house was broken into on friday > before F8. They stole my DVD > player, VCR, Playstation, home theatre with 5 > speakers and a 3 disk CD > changer, discman, walkman, computer, monitor, > keyboard, CD player, about 20 > movies and a bunch of other things. I was so upset! > What makes it even worse > is that all my trance CD's were in the CD players > that were stolen, so i > barely have any good music to listen to now. I'm not > a violent person, but i > hope whoever broke into your car and whoever broke > into my house die the most > painful and most horrifying death imaginable. I dont > know what the fuck is > wrong with this world. And what makes it even worse > is that the police are > basically doing jack shit about it adn even if they > get caught, they'll more > than likely get let go cause there's no room for > burglars in jail anymore! > Maybe i should have taken up this proffession; fuck > blockbuster! Anyways, i'm > just venting right now cause i'm really upset. My > cordless phone broke, and > the burglars stole my other phone, so i'm really > upset. (i'm at my friend's > house right now incase anyone is wondering) I > started slamming my door back > and forth so hard today it ripped half the posters > off my wall and my broken > cordless phone is laying in about 6 different pieces > right now. Well, you can > expect to see me on at least 2 hits of E at raves for > a while. Let's all hope > that the Karma police will come bust some ass around > here; whoever it was that > broke into your car and whoever broke into my house. > > --SCott-- > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:57:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19654 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:57:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 19646 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:57:34 -0000 Received: from cloudfactory.org (HELO stratus.cloudfactory.org) (kati@205.179.129.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:57:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (kati@localhost) by stratus.cloudfactory.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA20041; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:55:04 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:55:04 -0800 (PST) From: Kati Fleming To: Kriss * cc: thatpisces@yahoo.com, BluSnday@aol.com, colostamy@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles In-Reply-To: <19990401222109.15434.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Or, an even better idea, send $$$!!! There are so many wonderful organizations whose members are risking their lives to provide drinking water, antibiotics, warm blankets, food and other supplies to Kosovan refugees. Organizations accepting donations for relief aid include: UNICEF, The International Red Cross, CARE and Doctors without Borders. Most of these agencies have websites, so you can easily find their phone numbers; some also have secure web servers, so donations can be made via the internet. We are not "trapped" in our cubicles. We are safe, warm, well-fed and _lucky_ to be able to sit behind computer monitors all day. xoxox, ktk On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Kriss * wrote: > > > >Its beautiful in Sunnyvale!!! The clouds are picture perfect, and the > > >sunny is shining. > > yeah, i just looked out the window at the sky and expected to see the > words "the simpsons" coming out from those clouds! > > sorry, i'm a crackhead today. but after looking at the beautiful sky > last night (it was gorgeous!), i decided that i'm going to try to take > moments to appreciate the beauty in life at least once each day. > > my life is pretty darn good, especially when compared to the terror in > yugoslavia... =( maybe we could all send some positive thoughts that > direction & people over there will catch a clue? > > have a wonderful day everyone! > > with love, > kriss =) > > > > > > > > > >Enjoy the weekend! > > > > > >Jessica > > > > > >--- BluSnday@aol.com wrote: > > >> In a message dated 4/1/99 9:30:10 PM !!!First > > >> Boot!!!, colostamy@yahoo.com > > >> writes: > > >> > > >> > Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day > > >> outside! > > >> > I am telling you, this is the kind of day that > > >> cavemen > > >> > came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! > > >> Dude! > > >> > > >> ***Hrmm... it's cloudy and windy here... in fact a > > >> large branch just hit the > > >> window (yikes!) =P If it's gorgeous where you are, > > >> enjoy it! > > >> > > >> *steph* > > >> > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 22:58:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20606 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 22:58:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 20385 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:57:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:57:54 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 278; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:55:48 -0800 Message-ID: <3703FCD9.DBA26A21@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:10:17 -0800 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Speedex33@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 (AND MY HOUSE!!) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Some fucknut kids broke into my car last week. Not only did they break into it...but f***in destroyed it. Instead of using a slim jim or breaking the window, they took what seems to be a giant canopener (probably a crowbar), and PEELED away the sheet metal around my door handle. You can literally stick your arm through my door now. Then, instead of just taking off the dash plate with a screw driver (only 4 screws), they took the crowbar to my dashboard. Destroyed all 3 sections of the dash. And of course all that happened at my apartment complex in marin that costs me way to much and is supposed to be safe. And of course I dont have theft insurance :) john r Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > I totally know how you feel man! I dont know what it is about this > weekend, but my house was broken into on friday before F8. They stole my DVD > player, VCR, Playstation, home theatre with 5 speakers and a 3 disk CD > changer, discman, walkman, computer, monitor, keyboard, CD player, about 20 > movies and a bunch of other things. I was so upset! What makes it even worse > is that all my trance CD's were in the CD players that were stolen, so i > barely have any good music to listen to now. I'm not a violent person, but i > hope whoever broke into your car and whoever broke into my house die the most > painful and most horrifying death imaginable. I dont know what the fuck is > wrong with this world. And what makes it even worse is that the police are > basically doing jack shit about it adn even if they get caught, they'll more > than likely get let go cause there's no room for burglars in jail anymore! > Maybe i should have taken up this proffession; fuck blockbuster! Anyways, i'm > just venting right now cause i'm really upset. My cordless phone broke, and > the burglars stole my other phone, so i'm really upset. (i'm at my friend's > house right now incase anyone is wondering) I started slamming my door back > and forth so hard today it ripped half the posters off my wall and my broken > cordless phone is laying in about 6 different pieces right now. Well, you can > expect to see me on at least 2 hits of E at raves for a while. Let's all hope > that the Karma police will come bust some ass around here; whoever it was that > broke into your car and whoever broke into my house. > > --SCott-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:02:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25710 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:02:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 25693 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:02:47 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:02:47 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id sEQRa07307; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:00:41 -0500 (EST) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:00:41 EST To: isaacl@divi.com Cc: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: SFRAVE HISTORY!! YES! YES!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/1/99 10:37:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, isaacl@divi.com writes: << Anybody remember camp swig ('96(jewish camp in cupertino/ highway 9) ? Free BBQ, and a crazy tent city????? I'm trying to think of my '94 experiences, but geez- my is still sifting through the raver files. peace, isaac :) >> AHAHAHAHAHA NO! unfortunately that party happened before my time, but OH SHIT!! It is in my mind one of the most legendary parties of the scene. Know why:??? That's where I went to Summer camp since I was little!!! See?? the jews really do know how to party. It was a Harmony one, too, I believe. the camp isn't really used as much anymore because of earthquake dangers, but I think we should throw another party there!! The saratoga mountains at night are one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in this local area. Of all the parties that happened before I was involved in the scene, I think this is the one I most would have wanted to go to.... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:04:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26603 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:04:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 26579 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:04:11 -0000 Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout3-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.211) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:04:11 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB605-09.splitrock.net [209.252.6.9]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA89978; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:04:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3703FAFA.DE33DEA5@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:02:18 -0800 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Standish CC: BeTTaViBe@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: underground tape folks/Djs.. PLEASE READ References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Type 2 and 4 (metal) tapes have a much higher headroom than type 1 tapes. And you should have you're levels set accordingly to which type of tape you're using to prevent saturation in the first place. Type 2 and 4 tapes when set right will be much clearer and crisper than type 1 tapes because of the increased headroom. And as far as High speed Recording, well there is simply two differences, the first being that reel to reel decks and other decks such as the Tascam 8 track recorders and such record the normal signal (unspeeded up) onto tape at high speeds to put the same signal on more tape, resulting in better sound. Try playing these tapes at normal speed and they'll sound super slow. I might add also that a majority of the professional studios master onto real to reel decks using high quality tape such as Ampex. Anyways the second difference is when you high speed dub a tape you're recording the signal that has already been recorded once already and you're doing it at twice the speed resulting in worse sound quality. Simple. -peace- Joe Lanzon Michael Standish wrote: > ....Use type 1 tapes. CrO2, and metal (type 2, or 4 ) tapes can't hold as much > bass as type 1. As a result, they will saturate easily when recording, bass > heavy, rave, music. If you use type 2, or 4 tape you will have to keep your > levels down, resulting in a quieter less appealling tape. > > However, I'm not sure high speed is bad; Professional reel to reel decks get > excelent sound by running at four to eight times the speed of cassette decks. > > .....DAT tapes, being digital, have a low tollerance for clipping in the source > signal. You must be sure that your signal is not clipping. The only really > good way to do this, is to use a Rane, and keep the levels on the mixer out > of the red. Best of luck trying to get any other brand to give a good, > clean signal. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:06:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27528 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:06:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 27490 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:06:10 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:06:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401230858.23124.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.101.174.4] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:08:58 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:08:58 -0800 (PST) From: M Downer Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 (AND MY HOUSE!!) To: johnr@hrg.com, Speedex33@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think it is a conspiracy.... Someone or something just does not want us to have music!!! Be careful they are watching us!!!! I bet it is some religious cult.... yeah that's it!!! Matt --- John Rodriguez wrote: > Some fucknut kids broke into my car last week. Not > only did they break into > it...but f***in destroyed it. Instead of using a > slim jim or breaking the window, > they took what seems to be a giant canopener > (probably a crowbar), and PEELED away > the sheet metal around my door handle. You can > literally stick your arm through > my door now. Then, instead of just taking off the > dash plate with a screw driver > (only 4 screws), they took the crowbar to my > dashboard. Destroyed all 3 sections > of the dash. And of course all that happened at my > apartment complex in marin > that costs me way to much and is supposed to be safe. > And of course I dont have > theft insurance :) > > john r > > Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > > > I totally know how you feel man! I dont know > what it is about this > > weekend, but my house was broken into on friday > before F8. They stole my DVD > > player, VCR, Playstation, home theatre with 5 > speakers and a 3 disk CD > > changer, discman, walkman, computer, monitor, > keyboard, CD player, about 20 > > movies and a bunch of other things. I was so > upset! What makes it even worse > > is that all my trance CD's were in the CD players > that were stolen, so i > > barely have any good music to listen to now. I'm > not a violent person, but i > > hope whoever broke into your car and whoever broke > into my house die the most > > painful and most horrifying death imaginable. I > dont know what the fuck is > > wrong with this world. And what makes it even > worse is that the police are > > basically doing jack shit about it adn even if they > get caught, they'll more > > than likely get let go cause there's no room for > burglars in jail anymore! > > Maybe i should have taken up this proffession; fuck > blockbuster! Anyways, i'm > > just venting right now cause i'm really upset. My > cordless phone broke, and > > the burglars stole my other phone, so i'm really > upset. (i'm at my friend's > > house right now incase anyone is wondering) I > started slamming my door back > > and forth so hard today it ripped half the posters > off my wall and my broken > > cordless phone is laying in about 6 different > pieces right now. Well, you can > > expect to see me on at least 2 hits of E at raves > for a while. Let's all hope > > that the Karma police will come bust some ass > around here; whoever it was that > > broke into your car and whoever broke into my > house. > > > > --SCott-- > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:09:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29211 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:09:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 29184 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:09:17 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:09:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401231212.26281.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:12:12 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:12:12 -0800 (PST) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 (AND MY HOUSE!!) To: M Downer , johnr@hrg.com, Speedex33@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think the same thing sometimes, TWO ac adapters have mysteriously disapeared from my cube, making it impossible to play my favorite tapes. DO you think the people around me are sick of jungle, and they just pulled the cord? UMmmm sick of jungle, naaah --- M Downer wrote: > I think it is a conspiracy.... Someone or something > just does not want > us to have music!!! Be careful they are watching > us!!!! I bet it is some > religious cult.... yeah that's it!!! > > Matt > > > > > --- John Rodriguez wrote: > > Some fucknut kids broke into my car last week. Not > > only did they break into > > it...but f***in destroyed it. Instead of using a > > slim jim or breaking the window, > > they took what seems to be a giant canopener > > (probably a crowbar), and PEELED away > > the sheet metal around my door handle. You can > > literally stick your arm through > > my door now. Then, instead of just taking off the > > dash plate with a screw driver > > (only 4 screws), they took the crowbar to my > > dashboard. Destroyed all 3 sections > > of the dash. And of course all that happened at > my > > apartment complex in marin > > that costs me way to much and is supposed to be > safe. > > And of course I dont have > > theft insurance :) > > > > john r > > > > Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I totally know how you feel man! I dont know > > what it is about this > > > weekend, but my house was broken into on friday > > before F8. They stole my DVD > > > player, VCR, Playstation, home theatre with 5 > > speakers and a 3 disk CD > > > changer, discman, walkman, computer, monitor, > > keyboard, CD player, about 20 > > > movies and a bunch of other things. I was so > > upset! What makes it even worse > > > is that all my trance CD's were in the CD players > > that were stolen, so i > > > barely have any good music to listen to now. I'm > > not a violent person, but i > > > hope whoever broke into your car and whoever > broke > > into my house die the most > > > painful and most horrifying death imaginable. I > > dont know what the fuck is > > > wrong with this world. And what makes it even > > worse is that the police are > > > basically doing jack shit about it adn even if > they > > get caught, they'll more > > > than likely get let go cause there's no room for > > burglars in jail anymore! > > > Maybe i should have taken up this proffession; > fuck > > blockbuster! Anyways, i'm > > > just venting right now cause i'm really upset. > My > > cordless phone broke, and > > > the burglars stole my other phone, so i'm really > > upset. (i'm at my friend's > > > house right now incase anyone is wondering) I > > started slamming my door back > > > and forth so hard today it ripped half the > posters > > off my wall and my broken > > > cordless phone is laying in about 6 different > > pieces right now. Well, you can > > > expect to see me on at least 2 hits of E at raves > > for a while. Let's all hope > > > that the Karma police will come bust some ass > > around here; whoever it was that > > > broke into your car and whoever broke into my > > house. > > > > > > --SCott-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:17:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4609 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:17:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 4600 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:17:25 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:17:25 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vPXJa00747 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:14:56 -0500 (EST) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <8b7d7448.243557f0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:14:56 EST Subject: Definitaly (NRR) SNL & Bill Clinton To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is completely unrave-related but I just saw something very funny. I was watching an old skit of Wayne's World on a re-run of SNL, and it was taking place right after Bill Clinton was first elected president. WAY before any Paula Jones or Lewinsky scandal. Wayne and Garth were doing their "Top Ten Things We Like About Bill Clinton", and one of them was titled, "Hope, Arkansas". They said he was from Hope, Arkansas. Wayne mentioned that was cool because he was offering our country "so much hope"! Then Garth mentioned, "What if Clinton was from 'Intercourse, Pennsylvania'"? hehehe... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:19:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5577 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:19:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 5535 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:18:57 -0000 Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:18:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401231913.20147.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.15.224] by web306.yahoomail.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:19:13 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:19:13 -0800 (PST) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: BSP. Free invite Dub, D&B, Party at Kate O'Briens Tonight (Thurs) To: sf raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is to remind you all that you are invited Tonight to Upstairs at Kate O'Briens 579 Howard At 2nd st. `Roots & Branches' DJs will be spinning Dub, Drum & Bass, Classic Reggae, Funk and other Weird Stuff in a LondonStyle SoundSession - CultureLab Visuals will be in effect + Blacklight visuals by A Waking Dream... ... This is LowKey - just say you were invited by me thru this EMail & you will get in ... (We will be charging $5 to Casual Passers by etc)... The Bad Part is that it is 21+ and has to End at 2am Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:19:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6218 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:19:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 6188 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:19:14 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:19:14 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vFKLa13104 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:18:13 -0500 (EST) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:18:13 EST Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Speedex33@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk <> Haha! I totally can feel you on that! Although i was thouroughly upset with what the burglars did take, i had to laugh at their stupidity for what they didnt' take..... My DVD's, a rack of 90 CD's, 50 other movies, THE REMOTE CONTROLL FOR THE DVD PLAYER!!!!!!!!, the mouse for the computer, my printer, scanner, zip drive, TV, video camera, carrying case of over 60 computer games (which was about 6 inches away from the computer they stole) and some other things that could have easily been taken... Oh yeah! and i forgot one more thing.... The day my house got broken into, i bought one of MystrE's tapes. I was listening to it for about 20 minutes and hten had to leave. when i came back and saw that everything had been stolen, MystrE's tape was laying on the ground. So that means that the only fingerprints on it, should be mine and one of the people who broke in!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The police have the tape right now and they're getting fingerprints off of it. I seriously hope that one comes through. I can't wait to get it back though, cause i only got to hear 20 minutes of that tape. Wish me luck on finding out who the bastards were! Scott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:21:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7922 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:21:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 7785 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:21:00 -0000 Received: from law-f103.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.166) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:21:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 38416 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 1999 23:21:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401232117.38415.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:21:17 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: colostamy@yahoo.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:21:17 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'd like to but they only remove the shackles at 5pm. At least i can enjoy the rest of the day while sitting in traffic 8^P~ Unfortunately the only windows near my desk often say "invalid page fault" d'oh! hope everyone is doing well :) John >From: Creamy Goodness >Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:31:22 -0800 (PST) > >Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day outside! >I am telling you, this is the kind of day that cavemen >came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! Dude! > >Steve the Articulate One =p > >=== >Steve Best >Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape >Home (408)253-4982 >Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best >This bitch I dated once - (540)662-5789 >Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 >Do You Yahoo!? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:21:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8674 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 8656 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:21:47 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:21:47 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-237.dsp.com [204.118.76.237]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00561; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:20:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199904012320.PAA00561@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:15:58 -0800 To: "Kriss *" , thatpisces@yahoo.com, BluSnday@aol.com, colostamy@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles In-Reply-To: <19990401222109.15434.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I took my usual 7 minute lunch today and made a brief sojourn to the sandwich shop 1 1/2 blocks away... and caught a tremendous sunbeam high on the way. Oh, to be a cat in a window today... To second Kriss' sentiments: I've been deathly ill for a little over a week (no, I should not have gone to F8), and those moments when I'm not coughing or sweating (which is groaty if one is not dancing, I can tell ya) are treasured. I appreciate every dust-mote, operating with the knowledge that not every day of my life is lived in misery or trepidation. Now if I can just heal my lungs quickly and be ablebodied for Dimitri from Paris at 1015 tomorrow night, and Sister at Storyville on Saturday, life will be manifestly joyous! Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:24:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12452 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:24:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 12439 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:24:53 -0000 Received: from web124.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:24:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401232549.10382.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Received: from [198.70.109.21] by web124.yahoomail.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:25:49 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:25:49 -0800 (PST) From: adam Subject: 411: dimitri from paris CANCELLED (Nikita 4/2) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry if someone else already posted this information. i hadn't seen any messages about it yet. yup. for real. the headlining DJ listed on the nikita site is now Jimmy Van Malleghem. the outgoing message on the Nikita phone line (415-267-0568) says dimitri's manager cancelled the tour due to exhaustion. no info on when the dates would be rescheduled. looks like Life Sucks (hehe). Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:25:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13826 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:25:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 13677 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:25:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:25:26 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 294; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:23:26 -0800 Message-ID: <37040353.85A12200@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:37:56 -0800 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Speedex33@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh yeah...guess the kids that broke into my car didnt like house....they left all my tapes....one plus :) john r Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > <> > > Haha! I totally can feel you on that! Although i was thouroughly upset > with what the burglars did take, i had to laugh at their stupidity for what > they didnt' take..... My DVD's, a rack of 90 CD's, 50 other movies, THE > REMOTE CONTROLL FOR THE DVD PLAYER!!!!!!!!, the mouse for the computer, my > printer, scanner, zip drive, TV, video camera, carrying case of over 60 > computer games (which was about 6 inches away from the computer they stole) > and some other things that could have easily been taken... Oh yeah! and i > forgot one more thing.... The day my house got broken into, i bought one of > MystrE's tapes. I was listening to it for about 20 minutes and hten had to > leave. when i came back and saw that everything had been stolen, MystrE's > tape was laying on the ground. So that means that the only fingerprints on > it, should be mine and one of the people who broke in!!!! > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The police have the tape right now and they're > getting fingerprints off of it. I seriously hope that one comes through. I > can't wait to get it back though, cause i only got to hear 20 minutes of that > tape. Wish me luck on finding out who the bastards were! > > Scott -- John Rodriguez Balance Productions http://www.SFHouse.com JohnR@SFHouse.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:28:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16744 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:28:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 16627 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:28:13 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:28:13 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id rHOWa01045; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:01:42 -0500 (EST) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: <9feab2b7.3703fad6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:01:42 EST To: Space201@aol.com, red_stickman@yahoo.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 3/29/99 3:39:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, Space201@aol.com writes: << I would agree that you had a truly positive response to such a negative thing. I would have probably put it differently myself, more like, "Hey assholes! You forgot a few things! @$@&&!!!!" >> Haha! I totally can feel you on that! Although i was thouroughly upset with what the burglars did take, i had to laugh at their stupidity for what they didnt' take..... My DVD's, a rack of 90 CD's, 50 other movies, THE REMOTE CONTROLL FOR THE DVD PLAYER!!!!!!!!, the mouse for the computer, my printer, scanner, zip drive, TV, video camera, carrying case of over 60 computer games (which was about 6 inches away from the computer they stole) and some other things that could have easily been taken... Oh yeah! and i forgot one more thing.... The day my house got broken into, i bought one of MystrE's tapes. I was listening to it for about 20 minutes and hten had to leave. when i came back and saw that everything had been stolen, MystrE's tape was laying on the ground. So that means that the only fingerprints on it, should be mine and one of the people who broke in!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The police have the tape right now and they're getting fingerprints off of it. I seriously hope that one comes through. I can't wait to get it back though, cause i only got to hear 20 minutes of that tape. Wish me luck on finding out who the bastards were! Scott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:31:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20262 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:31:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 20250 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:31:47 -0000 Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:31:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990401233211.5878.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.123] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:32:10 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:32:10 -0800 (PST) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 To: johnr@hrg.com, Speedex33@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk God damn. Guess it's not our week, huh? Sorry guys. I know how you all feel. gotta run, need to activate my *pager*..."about time", everyone's going to say, I know. Love, Michael o)-< Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:36:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23283 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:36:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 23271 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:36:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anlsf.com) (206.79.166.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:36:00 -0000 Received: from ntserver ([206.79.166.23]) by anlsf.com (Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) with SMTP id 88256746.0081D498; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:38:05 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990401154059.0079c840@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:40:59 -0800 To: The Red Stickman From: deepbeep Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990401233211.5878.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I ain't sayin' nutthin' ;) :::hugs::: d. At 03:32 PM 4/1/99 -0800, The Red Stickman wrote: >God damn. Guess it's not our week, huh? > >Sorry guys. I know how you all feel. > >gotta run, need to activate my *pager*..."about time", >everyone's going to say, I know. > >Love, >Michael >o)-< > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:42:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26913 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:42:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26898 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:42:32 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:42:32 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vYAMa03280 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:38:43 -0500 (EST) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: <2b6e4f30.24355d83@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:38:43 EST Subject: Thank you Raver Day and F-8!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Speedex33@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whew! Okay now that i've gotten all the bad negative stuff off my chest, let me stop to say how WONDERFUL of a weekend i had except for that whole breaking in thing.... I had allready gotten my presale ticket for F-8, so even though half of everything i own was stolen, i was NOT going to let it ruin my weekend. So, my dad drove me all the way to Great America and got me a season pass. From there, it was up to me to find a ride to F-8 and back home again. After wandering around aimlessly, looking for all the other raves, i found some in front of Sky Flyer and it ended up that was the meeting spot. So i stayed there for a while meeting all the other SFRavers. In case anyone who was there is wondering, i was the one in the brown jacket and the most non-raver looking person. The robbers stole my backpack that had all my rave necklaces and stuff in it (now THAT pissed me off:), so i wasn't very dressed up. Anyways, once more people showed up, we went on a couple rides and then met up with more ravers. I made BUNCH of new friends and even got a ride to the rave, with an even better friend that i made that day! And yet more when we got there! i have to say that F-8 was the most rockin' party i've been to in a LONG time! All the DJ's were ausome, the lasers were mindblowing, the fans were life savers, and the people were cool. I am so glad that i went to this, cause everyone there (at Great America and F-8) totally kept me in a really good mood, considering, and helped me keep my mind off what had happend the night before. I am eternally greatful you guys! And you know who you are!:) And for several other special reasons, 2nd and Jackson is my ALL TIME FAVORITE rave spot. 20 whack-ass parties in a row at that place could never change my mind about it cause i've had too many good memories there (and even in the oddest places there:). Thank you again to the whole rave community for keeping me in such a good mood all weekend. Take care everyone! -SCott- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:44:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27843 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:43:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27823 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:43:56 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:43:56 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id iHVBa08653; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:06:55 -0500 (EST) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:06:55 EST To: johnr@hrg.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 (AND MY HOUSE!!) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/1/99 2:58:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, johnr@hrg.com writes: << And of course all that happened at my apartment complex in marin that costs me way to much and is supposed to be safe. And of course I dont have theft insurance :) >> Oh yeah, that reminds me, too......our house wasn't insured, either. So there went $10,000 worth of stuff that went bye bye... and the little pricks bashed the windsheild of my mom's car that was parked in the backyard! What the hell is that??? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:46:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29538 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:46:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 29515 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:46:47 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:46:47 -0000 Received: from NavySatan@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id sSZCa14867; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:45:33 -0500 (EST) From: NavySatan@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:45:33 EST Subject: Re: SFRAVE HISTORY!! YES! YES!! To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, isaacl@divi.com CC: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: NavySatan@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ahhhhh yes, this party was the party that ruined all others for me It was the Harmony 3 Year on Sept 14th 1996 aka my first party. The location was outdoor at a summer camp... the dancing areas were indoor... and between the Ambient building and the Main room was a nice, large tent commune... and nearby a little area completely encircled by trees (for chatting and meeting people, which I did) To get to the location you had to be brought in a school bus from West Valley Community College where you parked and left your belongings for the night. The way this production happened, and the way the location was set up allowed for one of the most comfortable and alive vibes I've ever experienced since. I'm glad my first impression was so positive, but you can imagine the underlying disappointment I felt aince I haven't experienced such an ideal party setting since. Homebase being my second experience, you might understand how I might have felt.... (though now, I do have special love for that place too) -NastyAssedNavySatan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:49:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1587 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:49:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 1575 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:48:58 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:48:58 -0000 Received: from sei.com (ntws18.sei.com [198.202.174.85]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26109; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:47:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3704067B.559282F0@sei.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:51:23 -0800 From: Martin Randall Organization: SEI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com CC: isaacl@divi.com, SFRAVES@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SFRAVE HISTORY!! YES! YES!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yup, that was the Harmony 3 Year Anniversary - the year I started raving and what I remember as one of the quintessential raves of my "career". They had a raver schoolbus ferrying people up to the camp from the parking area down in Cupertino somewhere. Just seeing the peoples' faces as they got off the bus (after this magical mystery ride - they had no idea where they were being taken) was something to behold.. Knucklehead brought his BBQ, Randy Cone organized the ambient room in classic style, the music was awesome in both the ambient room and the main room (I remember Stella Luna doing a crazy set). While we were setting up, the people who owned the camp came through to check up on things, and gazed at all the banners and stuff. Someone assured them that everything would be taken down and put back to normal after the party, and they were going "Oh no - it looks beautiful just the way it is!". Pure magic. - Martin =] TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/1/99 10:37:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, isaacl@divi.com > writes: > > << Anybody remember camp swig ('96(jewish camp in cupertino/ highway 9) ? > Free BBQ, and a crazy tent city????? > > I'm trying to think of my '94 experiences, but geez- my is still sifting > through the raver files. peace, isaac :) >> > > AHAHAHAHAHA NO! unfortunately that party happened before my time, but OH > SHIT!! It is in my mind one of the most legendary parties of the scene. Know > why:??? That's where I went to Summer camp since I was little!!! See?? the > jews really do know how to party. It was a Harmony one, too, I believe. the > camp isn't really used as much anymore because of earthquake dangers, but I > think we should throw another party there!! The saratoga mountains at night > are one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in this local area. Of > all the parties that happened before I was involved in the scene, I think this > is the one I most would have wanted to go to.... > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:52:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3372 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:52:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 3360 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:52:28 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:52:28 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vXBFa03820 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:51:11 -0500 (EST) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <84793f79.2435606f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:51:11 EST Subject: Re: Children of The Sun!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk could anyone give me and a friend a ride to children of the sun? i would be forever in debt to you and we would pitch in gas money. i live is san rafael(15 min north of san fran). please e-mail me if you can. thanks! alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 01 23:55:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4949 invoked by uid 6000); 1 Apr 1999 23:55:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 4939 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 23:55:02 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 23:55:02 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA23182; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:55:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for charity.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 00:01:01 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:54:06 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'Martin Randall'" , "'greg sandler'" Cc: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: SFRAVE HISTORY!! YES! YES!! Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:53:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey greg, that sounds just too good... when's the next similar party?? loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Randall [SMTP:kk@sei.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 3:51 PM > To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com > Cc: isaacl@divi.com; SFRAVES@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: SFRAVE HISTORY!! YES! YES!! > > Yup, that was the Harmony 3 Year Anniversary - the year I started raving > and > what I remember as one of the quintessential raves of my "career". They > had a > raver schoolbus ferrying people up to the camp from the parking area down > in > Cupertino somewhere. Just seeing the peoples' faces as they got off the > bus > (after this magical mystery ride - they had no idea where they were being > taken) > was something to behold.. > > Knucklehead brought his BBQ, Randy Cone organized the ambient room in > classic style, the music was awesome in both the ambient room and the main > room (I remember Stella Luna doing a crazy set). While we were setting up, > the people who owned the camp came through to check up on things, and > gazed > at all the banners and stuff. Someone assured them that everything would > be > taken down and put back to normal after the party, and they were going > "Oh no - it looks beautiful just the way it is!". > > Pure magic. > > - Martin =] > > > TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/1/99 10:37:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, > isaacl@divi.com > > writes: > > > > << Anybody remember camp swig ('96(jewish camp in cupertino/ highway > 9) ? > > Free BBQ, and a crazy tent city????? > > > > I'm trying to think of my '94 experiences, but geez- my is still > sifting > > through the raver files. peace, isaac :) >> > > > > AHAHAHAHAHA NO! unfortunately that party happened before my time, but OH > > SHIT!! It is in my mind one of the most legendary parties of the scene. > Know > > why:??? That's where I went to Summer camp since I was little!!! See?? > the > > jews really do know how to party. It was a Harmony one, too, I believe. > the > > camp isn't really used as much anymore because of earthquake dangers, > but I > > think we should throw another party there!! The saratoga mountains at > night > > are one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in this local area. > Of > > all the parties that happened before I was involved in the scene, I > think this > > is the one I most would have wanted to go to.... > > > > hugs n'stuff, > > trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 00:15:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13355 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 00:15:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 13336 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 00:15:55 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.171) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 00:15:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 53699 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 00:15:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402001544.53698.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.100.194.77 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:15:43 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.100.194.77] From: "Kriss *" To: Speedex33@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:15:43 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The police have the tape right now and they're >getting fingerprints off of it. they actually cared enough to take fingerprints? when my car got broken into - in the garage of my apartment complex - the theives left fingerprints ALL OVER my car and windows. well, the windows they didn't break. *grrr* when i told the police, they refused to come down to take a look or to take the fingerprints. after this break-in i decided to get renters' insurance. now, for around $200 a year, i'm covered for theft from my apartment and car. you all should look into renters' insurance if you don't have any. i got mine through my car insurance person. sorry, i know that doesn't help the people who have already been ripped off, but renter's insurance is a pretty good deal for not too much money. good luck everyone! with love, kriss =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 00:28:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18103 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 00:28:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 18093 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 00:28:20 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 00:28:20 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-f4 (mmf25.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.95]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29390; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:28:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199904020028.QAA29390@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: NavySatan@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Dirty Lurkers CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:30:28 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey! Where did you come from! Get back beneath the ground, you dirty little LURKER!! Making little fabulous appearances just to tell everyone about the best party ever that they missed..damn! The nerve. Rafie PS-speaking of fabulous, I saw "Absolutely Fabulous" episodes the other night for my first time and was rolling on the floor laughing (literally!) On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:45:33 EST, NavySatan@aol.com wrote... >Ahhhhh yes, this party was the party that ruined all others for me >It was the Harmony 3 Year on Sept 14th 1996 aka my first party. The >location >was outdoor at a summer camp... the dancing areas were indoor... and >between >the Ambient building and the Main room was a nice, large tent commune... >and >nearby a little area completely encircled by trees (for chatting and >meeting >people, which I did) >To get to the location you had to be brought in a school bus from West >Valley >Community College where you parked and left your belongings for the night. >The way this production happened, and the way the location was set up >allowed >for one of the most comfortable and alive vibes I've ever experienced >since. >I'm glad my first impression was so positive, but you can imagine the >underlying disappointment I felt aince I haven't experienced such an ideal >party setting since. >Homebase being my second experience, you might understand how I might have >felt.... (though now, I do have special love for that place too) >-NastyAssedNavySatan > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 00:32:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20194 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 00:32:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 19983 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 00:32:04 -0000 Received: from wya-oe2.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 00:32:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 20772 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 00:31:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402003137.20771.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.201.49 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:31:36 PST X-Originating-IP: [152.163.201.49] From: "sHaWn ." To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, isaacl@divi.com Cc: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SFRAVE HISTORY!! YES! YES!! Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:31:36 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I remember the Harmony party there, it was my first Harmony party. You guys remember the buses we had to ride?? And there was a cop out in the rode directing traffic after the party and this girl on one of the buses didnt understand that the cop was only there to direct traffic and she started flipping out. That was an experience!! > >AHAHAHAHAHA NO! unfortunately that party happened before my time, but OH >SHIT!! It is in my mind one of the most legendary parties of the scene. Know >why:??? That's where I went to Summer camp since I was little!!! See?? the >jews really do know how to party. It was a Harmony one, too, I believe. the >camp isn't really used as much anymore because of earthquake dangers, but I >think we should throw another party there!! The saratoga mountains at night >are one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in this local area. Of >all the parties that happened before I was involved in the scene, I think this >is the one I most would have wanted to go to.... > > hugs n'stuff, >trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 00:32:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20823 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 00:32:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 20758 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 00:32:26 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 00:32:26 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-f4 (mmf25.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.95]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28113 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:32:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199904020032.QAA28113@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Rafie" Subject: Go to Discovery Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:34:33 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yay! Go to Discovery tonight!! YEAAAHH!! Ah, picturesque Santa Rosa... Only $5-dolla-suckie-suckie!! Rafie PS- There's some South Park movie coming out this summer, I think. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 00:41:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26282 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 00:41:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 26251 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 00:41:53 -0000 Received: from wya-oe1.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 00:41:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 19781 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 00:41:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402004126.19780.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 38.225.85.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:41:26 PST X-Originating-IP: [38.225.85.2] From: "cassandra thomas" To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Books on the history of our scene Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:41:26 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, maybe we could throw a party where some of the elderstatesman of the scene act as the shamans of the party guiding us through a music history starting with kraftwerk or whatever you want to designate as the beginning of our scene and ending with samples of what is going on now. we could call it "once upon a time". -cassandra >From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com >To: ontogenesis_ca@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Books on the history of our scene >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 23:12:51 EST > >In a message dated 3/31/99 2:07:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, >ontogenesis_ca@hotmail.com writes: > >> anyone interested in starting an SFRAVES face to face reading list? >> >> -cassandra > > >this would be neat to have a camp out party (geocentric)..and sit around the >camp fire and read the book. > >~Sami From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 00:49:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29608 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 00:49:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 29597 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 00:49:10 -0000 Received: from pop04.iname.net (165.251.8.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 00:49:10 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop04.iname.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA25696; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:48:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990401164634.03fa4320@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:47:55 -0800 To: "Rafie" , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: binary fineboy Subject: Re: Go to Discovery In-Reply-To: <199904020032.QAA28113@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk isnt discovery next week? At 08:34 AM 4/1/99 , Rafie wrote: >Yay! Go to Discovery tonight!! YEAAAHH!! >Ah, picturesque Santa Rosa... >Only $5-dolla-suckie-suckie!! > >Rafie >PS- There's some South Park movie coming out this summer, I think. > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 00:53:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1287 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 00:53:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1278 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 00:53:15 -0000 Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (24.0.26.58) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 00:53:15 -0000 Received: from corp.home.net (Protostar@ops-pc067.custops.home.net [24.0.24.87]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05465; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:52:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <370414D4.3FF0E072@corp.home.net> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:52:36 -0800 From: Peter R Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-AtHome0404 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kati Fleming CC: Kriss * , thatpisces@yahoo.com, BluSnday@aol.com, colostamy@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hmm.. I just went outside and decided to go sunbaithing.. well, My bos didnt like that and told me to go home and wait for him to call to see if I could come back to work tomorrow... hmmm Thanks for all your good ideas :( -Pete Kati Fleming wrote: > > Or, an even better idea, send $$$!!! There are so many wonderful > organizations whose members are risking their lives to provide drinking > water, antibiotics, warm blankets, food and other supplies to Kosovan > refugees. Organizations accepting donations for relief aid include: > UNICEF, The International Red Cross, CARE and Doctors without Borders. > Most of these agencies have websites, so you can easily find their phone > numbers; some also have secure web servers, so donations can be made via > the internet. > We are not "trapped" in our cubicles. We are safe, warm, well-fed and > _lucky_ to be able to sit behind computer monitors all day. > xoxox, > ktk > > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Kriss * wrote: > > > > > > > >Its beautiful in Sunnyvale!!! The clouds are picture perfect, and the > > > > >sunny is shining. > > > > yeah, i just looked out the window at the sky and expected to see the > > words "the simpsons" coming out from those clouds! > > > > sorry, i'm a crackhead today. but after looking at the beautiful sky > > last night (it was gorgeous!), i decided that i'm going to try to take > > moments to appreciate the beauty in life at least once each day. > > > > my life is pretty darn good, especially when compared to the terror in > > yugoslavia... =( maybe we could all send some positive thoughts that > > direction & people over there will catch a clue? > > > > have a wonderful day everyone! > > > > with love, > > kriss =) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Enjoy the weekend! > > > > > > > > > >Jessica > > > > > > > > > >--- BluSnday@aol.com wrote: > > > > >> In a message dated 4/1/99 9:30:10 PM !!!First > > > > >> Boot!!!, colostamy@yahoo.com > > > > >> writes: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day > > > > >> outside! > > > > >> > I am telling you, this is the kind of day that > > > > >> cavemen > > > > >> > came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! > > > > >> Dude! > > > > >> > > > > >> ***Hrmm... it's cloudy and windy here... in fact a > > > > >> large branch just hit the > > > > >> window (yikes!) =P If it's gorgeous where you are, > > > > >> enjoy it! > > > > >> > > > > >> *steph* > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 00:54:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3070 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 00:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 3062 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 00:54:32 -0000 Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (24.0.26.58) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 00:54:32 -0000 Received: from corp.home.net (Protostar@ops-pc067.custops.home.net [24.0.24.87]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05614 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:54:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <37041542.25E0AE43@corp.home.net> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:54:26 -0800 From: Peter R Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-AtHome0404 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Attention all you people trapped in cubicles References: <370414D4.3FF0E072@corp.home.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PS... HaPPY ApriL FirSt! Peter R wrote: > > Hmm.. I just went outside and decided to go sunbaithing.. well, My bos > didnt like that and told me to go home and wait for him to call to see > if I could come back to work tomorrow... hmmm > Thanks for all your good ideas :( > -Pete > > Kati Fleming wrote: > > > > Or, an even better idea, send $$$!!! There are so many wonderful > > organizations whose members are risking their lives to provide drinking > > water, antibiotics, warm blankets, food and other supplies to Kosovan > > refugees. Organizations accepting donations for relief aid include: > > UNICEF, The International Red Cross, CARE and Doctors without Borders. > > Most of these agencies have websites, so you can easily find their phone > > numbers; some also have secure web servers, so donations can be made via > > the internet. > > We are not "trapped" in our cubicles. We are safe, warm, well-fed and > > _lucky_ to be able to sit behind computer monitors all day. > > xoxox, > > ktk > > > > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Kriss * wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >Its beautiful in Sunnyvale!!! The clouds are picture perfect, and the > > > > > > >sunny is shining. > > > > > > yeah, i just looked out the window at the sky and expected to see the > > > words "the simpsons" coming out from those clouds! > > > > > > sorry, i'm a crackhead today. but after looking at the beautiful sky > > > last night (it was gorgeous!), i decided that i'm going to try to take > > > moments to appreciate the beauty in life at least once each day. > > > > > > my life is pretty darn good, especially when compared to the terror in > > > yugoslavia... =( maybe we could all send some positive thoughts that > > > direction & people over there will catch a clue? > > > > > > have a wonderful day everyone! > > > > > > with love, > > > kriss =) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Enjoy the weekend! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jessica > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- BluSnday@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > >> In a message dated 4/1/99 9:30:10 PM !!!First > > > > > > >> Boot!!!, colostamy@yahoo.com > > > > > > >> writes: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Dudes, go outside! It is such a gorgeous day > > > > > > >> outside! > > > > > > >> > I am telling you, this is the kind of day that > > > > > > >> cavemen > > > > > > >> > came up with gods on. Oh man, oh man, oh man! > > > > > > >> Dude! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ***Hrmm... it's cloudy and windy here... in fact a > > > > > > >> large branch just hit the > > > > > > >> window (yikes!) =P If it's gorgeous where you are, > > > > > > >> enjoy it! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> *steph* > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 01:02:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9053 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 01:02:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 9040 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 01:02:47 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 01:02:47 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id qJEQa22323; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:01:50 -0500 (EST) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <5cf1f551.243570fe@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:01:50 EST Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 To: johnr@hrg.com, Speedex33@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wonder what these breakin's are about if they don't take some stuff. Like the time that my house got broken into and just took my parents wallets and purse, but not the computers, stereos, vcrs, dvd, and all the other electronic equipment and they popped the trunk of my car and opened and left the car door open and just messed everything up in the car, but left the radio and cd's in it. .. . how weird. . << oh yeah...guess the kids that broke into my car didnt like house....they left all my tapes....one plus :) john r Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > <> > > Haha! I totally can feel you on that! Although i was thouroughly upset > with what the burglars did take, i had to laugh at their stupidity for what > they didnt' take..... My DVD's, a rack of 90 CD's, 50 other movies, THE > REMOTE CONTROLL FOR THE DVD PLAYER!!!!!!!!, the mouse for the computer, my > printer, scanner, zip drive, TV, video camera, carrying case of over 60 > computer games (which was about 6 inches away from the computer they stole) > and some other things that could have easily been taken... Oh yeah! and i > forgot one more thing.... The day my house got broken into, i bought one of > MystrE's tapes. I was listening to it for about 20 minutes and hten had to > leave. when i came back and saw that everything had been stolen, MystrE's > tape was laying on the ground. So that means that the only fingerprints on > it, should be mine and one of the people who broke in!!!! > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The police have the tape right now and they're > getting fingerprints off of it. I seriously hope that one comes through. I > can't wait to get it back though, cause i only got to hear 20 minutes of that > tape. Wish me luck on finding out who the bastards were! > > Scott >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 01:17:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17549 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 01:17:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17539 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 01:17:34 -0000 Received: from web208.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 01:17:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402011728.8132.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web208.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:17:28 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:17:28 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know, its almost like these people are only doing these things to hurt and destroy, rather than for personal gain. How sad. Steve =( --- Taiida@aol.com wrote: > I wonder what these breakin's are about if they don't > take some stuff. Like > the time that my house got broken into and just took > my parents wallets and > purse, but not the computers, stereos, vcrs, dvd, and > all the other > electronic equipment and they popped the trunk of my > car and opened and left > the car door open and just messed everything up in > the car, but left the > radio and cd's in it. .. . how weird. . > > > << oh yeah...guess the kids that broke into my car > didnt like house....they > left all > my tapes....one plus :) > > john r > > Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > > > <> > > > > Haha! I totally can feel you on that! Although > i was thouroughly upset > > with what the burglars did take, i had to laugh at > their stupidity for what > > they didnt' take..... My DVD's, a rack of 90 > CD's, 50 other movies, THE > > REMOTE CONTROLL FOR THE DVD PLAYER!!!!!!!!, the > mouse for the computer, my > > printer, scanner, zip drive, TV, video camera, > carrying case of over 60 > > computer games (which was about 6 inches away from > the computer they stole) > > and some other things that could have easily been > taken... Oh yeah! and i > > forgot one more thing.... The day my house got > broken into, i bought one of > > MystrE's tapes. I was listening to it for about > 20 minutes and hten had to > > leave. when i came back and saw that everything > had been stolen, MystrE's > > tape was laying on the ground. So that means that > the only fingerprints on > > it, should be mine and one of the people who broke > in!!!! > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The police have the tape > right now and they're > > getting fingerprints off of it. I seriously hope > that one comes through. > I > > can't wait to get it back though, cause i only got > to hear 20 minutes of > that > > tape. Wish me luck on finding out who the > bastards were! > > > > Scott >> > > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 01:19:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18809 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 01:19:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18800 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 01:19:47 -0000 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net (HELO mail.ednet.net) (216.112.68.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 01:19:47 -0000 Received: from [216.112.68.152] ([216.112.68.152] verified) by mail.ednet.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b2) with ESMTP id S.0000298513; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:19:46 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: joe@mail.ednet.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990401213622.27134.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> References: <19990401213622.27134.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:19:44 -0800 To: Patrick Seaton From: Joe Rice Subject: Re: Gathering info? Cc: Naomi Thompson , "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 1:36 PM -0800 4/1/99, Patrick Seaton wrote: > April 3 (Saturday) - the Gathering > >Onionz (Chocolate Factory NYC), Huggie (Global Energy Musik LA), Steve >Loria (Bang the Drum LA), Daisy, Maze, Marcus, JP, Lucas, Tom LG, Jon >Santos, UFO, Tony, Jeno (Wicked Crew SF), Josh, Eric Spire. > >INFO: 415.905.8888 Plus Mr. Scruff and Tim "Love" Lee from the UK, both amazing donwtempo/funky-as-shit producers. Joe From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 01:24:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22131 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 01:24:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 22112 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 01:24:34 -0000 Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 01:24:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402012200.18718.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.104.156.101] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:22:00 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:22:00 -0800 (PST) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 To: Kriss * , Speedex33@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Kriss * wrote: > > >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The police have the tape > right now and they're > >getting fingerprints off of it. > > they actually cared enough to take fingerprints? > when my car got broken > into - in the garage of my apartment complex - the > theives left > fingerprints ALL OVER my car and windows. well, the > windows they didn't > break. *grrr* when i told the police, they refused > to come down to > take a look or to take the fingerprints. > > after this break-in i decided to get renters' > insurance. now, for > around $200 a year, i'm covered for theft from my > apartment and car. > you all should look into renters' insurance if you > don't have any. i > got mine through my car insurance person. > > sorry, i know that doesn't help the people who have > already been ripped > off, but renter's insurance is a pretty good deal for > not too much > money. > > good luck everyone! > > with love, > kriss =) > Renters insurance doesn't cover everything, tho. I've got full coverage car insurance and this incredibly crazy renters insurance, and neither one covered my car CD player. The car insurance said that if it wasn't bolted to the car, it wasn't covered. The renter's insurance said that if it was able to be used in the car (ie: CD player w/cassette adaptor to be used in the cassette deck) then it wasn't covered, as with CDs, because there was "intent" for use in the car!!! Read the fine print. You'll be surprised as to what *isn't* covered... grrr. :) love, michael o)-< Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 01:30:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25798 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 01:30:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 25787 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 01:30:07 -0000 Received: from web203.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.103) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 01:30:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402012908.14991.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.104.156.101] by web203.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:29:08 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:29:08 -0800 (PST) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 (AND MY HOUSE!!) To: Speedex33@aol.com, johnr@hrg.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/1/99 2:58:18 PM Pacific Standard > Time, johnr@hrg.com > writes: > > << And of course all that happened at my apartment > complex in marin > that costs me way to much and is supposed to be > safe. And of course I dont > have > theft insurance :) >> > > > Oh yeah, that reminds me, too......our house wasn't > insured, either. So there > went $10,000 worth of stuff that went bye bye... and > the little pricks bashed > the windsheild of my mom's car that was parked in the > backyard! What the > hell is that??? > That's pretty fucked up, is what it is. Good luck in finding those bastards. michael o)-< I don't Yahoo?! Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 01:33:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26900 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 01:33:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 26892 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 01:33:06 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 01:33:06 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D66QE6L9; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:32:30 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 03:50:29 -0800 Subject: (SRR) Searching for info on drug awareness booth for a party Message-ID: <19990313.035031.-3870103.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3-36 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dear SFRaves, I'm searching for people or info for getting a drug awareness booth. If anybody does this kinda thing or knows anyone that can put together such a thing. Please e-mail me! Thanx! -galen <<-MegaHertZ->> <> http://www.MHz.nu 415-395-8448 We eat candy ravers for breakfast... Why call Juno? or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 01:45:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2379 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 01:45:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 2371 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 01:45:23 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 01:45:23 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id RAA25990; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:45:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub1.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.7) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma923017520.025977; Thu, 1 Apr 99 17:45:20 -0800 Received: from geocities.com (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08710; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:45:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <37042127.3037AD97@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:45:11 -0800 From: Siphon Reply-To: urban_assault@geocities.com Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Jones CC: "'micron'" , "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Re: NRR: minidiscs References: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB8F9@exchange1.foxracing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, the newer portable mini disc recoders (such as the sony mz-r50) work great! Not only do I do my sets and record to tape with them but I also record my tracks as well and the sound is just fine. Its all about eq'ing and not over driving.... thats my 2 cents. Siphon Eric Jones wrote: > > i just did this very thing (mastered on minidisc then dubbed a tape from it) > and i am very impressed with it. just my two cents. > eric j > > -----Original Message----- > From: micron [mailto:micron1@rocketmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 12:33 PM > To: b i j o u; BeTTaViBe@aol.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > > minidiscs SUCK. i have one and have never been impressed with the > sound quality, especially when i dupe it (i know that this depends on > my tape deck too). > > go with DAT or a good tape deck, you'll be better off. the only thing > about having an analog tape master is that u can only make so many > copies of it before the tape begins to degrade and your quality goes > down. that is the ONE advantage to minidisc, u can make as many copies > as u want from the master without worrying about a degradation in > sound quality. but to me it's not worth it to master it to minidisc. > > i babble..... > > :) > micron > > ---b i j o u wrote: > > > > if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, > > it's all about minidiscs! > > > > veanne :) > > > > > > > > From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST > > > > ok..heres the deal.. > > i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the > quality > > is > > hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys > > sounds > > shity... > > how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound > > quality.... > > > > > > > > -- _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 01:50:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4489 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 01:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4481 invoked by uid 233); 2 Apr 1999 01:50:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 3144 invoked from network); 1 Apr 1999 22:30:25 -0000 Received: from bugs.ata-sd.com (root@207.114.143.217) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:30:25 -0000 Received: from scrappy (dhcp32-56.paso.ata-sd.com [172.16.32.56]) by bugs.ata-sd.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA01168; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:17:47 -0800 Message-ID: <00e501be7c8f$54d2a0d0$382010ac@paso.atasd.com> Reply-To: "Greg Adair" From: "Greg Adair" To: "Eric Jones" , "'micron'" , References: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB8F9@exchange1.foxracing.com> Subject: Re: minidiscs Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:31:03 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It all really depends on your MD player/recorder... the newer ones have much cleaner DAC's than some of the older ones... Sure, they still arent as good as DAT as they are gonna chop off the super high and super low frequencies, but they cost half as much as a DAT... anyway.. Gregery ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Jones To: 'micron' ; Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 1:07 PM Subject: NRR: minidiscs > i just did this very thing (mastered on minidisc then dubbed a tape from it) > and i am very impressed with it. just my two cents. > eric j > > -----Original Message----- > From: micron [mailto:micron1@rocketmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 12:33 PM > To: b i j o u; BeTTaViBe@aol.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > > > minidiscs SUCK. i have one and have never been impressed with the > sound quality, especially when i dupe it (i know that this depends on > my tape deck too). > > go with DAT or a good tape deck, you'll be better off. the only thing > about having an analog tape master is that u can only make so many > copies of it before the tape begins to degrade and your quality goes > down. that is the ONE advantage to minidisc, u can make as many copies > as u want from the master without worrying about a degradation in > sound quality. but to me it's not worth it to master it to minidisc. > > i babble..... > > :) > micron > > > > > > ---b i j o u wrote: > > > > if you want to record your mix with good sound quality, > > it's all about minidiscs! > > > > veanne :) > > > > > > > > From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: underground tape heads/Djs.. PLEASE READ > > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:24:57 EST > > > > ok..heres the deal.. > > i Made a tape (and it is doap) and when i recored it on tape the > quality > > is > > hella good...now when i tryed Tape-to-Tape recording the next copys > > sounds > > shity... > > how the hell do you Peaple make so many copys with such good sound > > quality.... > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 02:19:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16930 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 02:19:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 16912 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 02:19:48 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 02:19:48 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.89] (madmax-89.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.89]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA27830 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:18:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3703FAFA.DE33DEA5@prodigy.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:18:28 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: underground tape folks/Djs.. PLEASE READ Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 3:02 PM -0800 4/1/99, JOELANZON wrote: >Type 2 and 4 (metal) tapes have a much higher headroom than type 1 tapes. Not in the bass frequencies. But hey, this is rave music, so what do we need with bass? >should have you're levels set accordingly to which type of tape you're >using to >prevent saturation in the first place. Duh. >Type 2 and 4 tapes when set right will be >much clearer and crisper than type 1 tapes because of the increased headroom. In the mid and high frequencies, sure. So what? I'm not recording rock, or jazz. >as far as High speed Recording, well there is simply two differences, the >first >being that reel to reel decks and other decks such as the Tascam 8 track >recorders >and such record the normal signal (unspeeded up) onto tape at high speeds >to put >the same signal on more tape, resulting in better sound. Try playing >these tapes >at normal speed and they'll sound super slow. reeeeeelly? woooow. NEways, to dub compact cassetes well: Clean your heads. rubbing alcohol on a cotton swap is fine. Set your levels correctly You'll have to experiment with your deck/s, your deck's meters, and your choice of tape. Use a good tape For rave music, and other forms of disco I use TDK D type 1. If you must have CrO2, then Maxell XLII is a good choice. High speed dubbing may be bad, so if the tape is important don't use it. Giant sig added to protest against quoting entire threads. U UUUUUU U UUUUUUU UU U U UU UUUU lll i h h U UU U UU ll i hh UU UUU UU ll r r i c hh UU UUU UU ll rr rr ii ccc hh h UU UUU UU ll rrrr rr iii cccch hhhh UU UUU UU ll r rr ii cc c hhh UUU U U UU ll r ii cc hh UUU U UUU ll r ii cc hh UUUU U U UUUU ll rrr ii ccc h hh UUUUUU UUU llll rrrr iii cccc hhhh UUU U l r i c h h hh h From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 02:33:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24093 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 02:33:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 24079 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 02:33:07 -0000 Received: from mvrop.org (root@24.1.67.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 02:33:07 -0000 Received: from indycar (desktop-35.office-ethernet.infolane.net.43.88.207.in-addr.arpa [207.88.43.35] (may be forged)) by mvrop.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a-MVROP) with SMTP id SAA06718 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:33:02 -0800 Message-ID: <000d01be7cb1$243d3800$232b58cf@indycar.infolane.com> From: "Jim Lindsey" To: Subject: Location of the Pavilion? Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:33:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE7C6E.13F01320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE7C6E.13F01320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know where the Pavilion is located in San Fransisco? Whats = it like and has anyone partyed there? Its the location they give on the = infoline for The Gathering. Thanks a lot. And Lara, I think your doing = a great job too! =3D) Jimmy ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE7C6E.13F01320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know where the Pavilion = is located=20 in San Fransisco?  Whats it like and has anyone partyed = there?  Its=20 the location they give on the infoline for The Gathering.  Thanks a = lot.  And Lara, I think your doing a great job too! = =3D)
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE7C6E.13F01320-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 02:41:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27386 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 02:41:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 27359 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 02:41:12 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 02:41:12 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vAAQa13101 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:38:13 -0500 (EST) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:38:13 EST Subject: Re: NRR: Kosovo my left testicle To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All the money you send most likely won't even be used to help the refugees or anyone else. "Non-profit" Organisations such as UNICEF are organisations with a corporate hierarchy, to paraphrase; a business. They'll use maybe half the amount you send if even that so I say FUCK EM! Don't send money send canned goods, send blankets but under NO CIRCUMSTANCES send em money! LaalKuchaa If there is a god may he look out for the three soldiers who were captured by the Serbs and are to be tried in a military court :( From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 03:22:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12727 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 03:22:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 12717 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 03:22:18 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 03:22:18 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 3KTZa00745 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:15:23 -0500 (EST) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:15:23 EST Subject: SRR: Anyone know any drummer people who wouldn't mind. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk See, Drummers are totally welcome in the Million Marijuana March on May 1'st. We'll have a section for them (providing they come). If anyone knows peopkle who would be interested just either give them the info, or send them to me and I'll give them the info. It's nothing complicated, but having a bunch of people getting to know each other through their own music would be gorgeous. They won't get payed or anything. . . just praised. I know you're all out there, I see ya'll at the raves, n everywhere else. Why not do what you want to do somewhere people are looking forward to your presence ? Thanks a ton. . . HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 03:30:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14716 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 03:30:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 14704 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 03:30:16 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 03:30:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402032921.3413.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.134.242.163] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 19:29:21 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:29:21 -0800 (PST) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: underground tape folks/Djs.. PLEASE READ To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks you guys for this thread. So much better than a technical manual you are, much, much better. love,Julie Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 03:45:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22411 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 03:45:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 22402 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 03:45:19 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 03:45:19 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id rGGEa07130; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:28:07 -0500 (EST) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:28:07 EST Subject: Re: *No Trainspot Zone* To: chrispeee@yahoo.com, jsl@twenty-hz.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: Tekno313@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 3/31/99 9:56:59 PM, chrispeee@yahoo.com writes: >P.S. How far does someone have to go to get kicked off AOL? I'd do the >research, if I had the time... > >chrisP AOL people can get kicked off immediately, if AOL is notified that there is someone on AOL that is offending people. I believe though that it only goes for people who are making the offenses within AOL though...I can check up on it..although I dont know that it would make a difference(kicking him off). monty From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 03:45:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23057 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 03:45:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 23048 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 03:45:49 -0000 Received: from smtp.well.com (206.80.6.147) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 03:45:49 -0000 Received: from [206.169.229.33] (tokyo-33.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.229.33]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA20713; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:45:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:55:31 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: leftjab@mail.well.com (leftjab) Subject: Re: underground tape folks/Djs.. PLEASE READ Cc: BeTTaViBe@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Taping is partially an art, partially a science, so take what everyone says with a grain of salt, and figure it out for yourself. I have extensive experience with analog and DAT taping in both the Dead and rave scenes, and although there is much good standard advice (good quality tape deck, maintained well, good quality tape, recorded well), there are different opinions on what makes a good tape. Taping well in analog means more than levels -- it means accurate bias settings if you're using Type I or II, and a whole host of other esoteric concerns. For example, most of what is said below I agree with, but I never use Type I tapes, and can hardly believe someone actually asserted that TDK D 's (at least use AD's) can do any sort of justice to serious music (including rave music), particularly compared to TDK SA or Maxell XL (or better yet, SA-X, or Maxell XL-IIS, or Denon HD8s). Analog tapes through the mail are cheap in bulk now -- I've seen SA 90's and XL's for just over a $1 each, and XL-IIS's for $1.79, so there's no real reason to skimp on quality tape. But if you are serious about getting multiple, high-quality copies out to people, make a DAT master, so you can go straight to CD or to CD with digital editing, or make numerous analog masters. DAT's are a bit quirky and head cleaning is still very important, but it's a much more responsive medium than analog. >>Type 2 and 4 (metal) tapes have a much higher headroom than type 1 tapes. > >Not in the bass frequencies. But hey, this is rave music, so what do we >need with bass? On all the decks I've ever owned, Type II usually has better bass response than Type I, IMHO, unrelated to the issue of headroom. They also usually have a greater frequency range than Type I. >Use type 1 tapes. CrO2, and metal (type 2, or 4 ) tapes can't hold as much >bass as type 1. As a result, they will saturate easily when recording, bass >heavy, rave, music. If you use type 2, or 4 tape you will have to keep your >levels down, resulting in a quieter less appealling tape. Huh? I can push my levels a lot more on type II and IV, and have never noticed a bass deficiency. I usually think people are too gentle on analog levels, particularly with DJ sets where levels fluctuate widely. > >>Type 2 and 4 tapes when set right will be >>much clearer and crisper than type 1 tapes because of the increased headroom. > >In the mid and high frequencies, sure. So what? I'm not recording rock, or >jazz. Most rave music has mucho stuff in high frequencies too, especially some trance (goa has little bass and is mostly mids and highs), and is usually more demanding to tape than rock, not less. >However, because most people believe that CrO2, and metal tapes are better, >you may want to use them just to show off. (perception of quality is the >same thing as quality.) No, quality is in the ear of the beholder, so that's why there are differences in opinion. Most people believe Type II is better 'cause it sounds better to them, but if you like Type I, you like Type I. Alternatly you can cover up your tape with a fancy >label, so no one can tell what kind on tape you used. Note that when DJs >have many tapes made in bulk, on tapes that came with no markings, the >tapes are nearly always type 1. And, frankly, most underground DJ tapes are of pretty shitty sound quality, unsurprisingly. The analog tapes I've made at home on Type II directly from DAT masters from parties are usually far better quality than what DJs distribute, usually because they don't have the money to get stuff done right. >NEways, to dub compact cassetes well: > >Clean your heads. > rubbing alcohol on a cotton swap is fine. > >Set your levels correctly > You'll have to experiment with your deck/s, your deck's meters, > and your choice of tape. > >Use a good tape > For rave music, and other forms of disco I use TDK D type 1. > If you must have CrO2, then Maxell XLII is a good choice. > >High speed dubbing may be bad, so if the tape is important don't use it. High speed analog dubbing always is worse than recording at normal speed using the same dubbing deck. At best there's only a small loss in quality. Better to make sure you have the time to tape at normal speed. Better yet to use two separate decks anyway when dubbing, as dubbing decks at normal speed aren't as good as two separate decks, and then you don't even have the expedient option of high speed dubbing. Professional reel-to-reel high speed dubbing, or digital high speed, is fine, but most of us don't own such equipment; unfortunately, too many people own dubbing analog decks. leftjab "so many tapes, so little time" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 03:56:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27936 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 03:56:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 27927 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 03:56:50 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 03:56:50 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id oVHEa08671; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:33:24 -0500 (EST) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <44a5c398.24359484@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:33:24 EST Subject: Re: (SRR) Searching for info on drug awareness booth for a party To: elias_smith@juno.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ask Vlad to help you out... He knows someone!! =) In a message dated 4/1/99 5:33:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, elias_smith@juno.com writes: << Dear SFRaves, I'm searching for people or info for getting a drug awareness booth. If anybody does this kinda thing or knows anyone that can put together such a thing. Please e-mail me! Thanx! -galen >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 04:08:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1688 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 04:08:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 1678 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 04:08:20 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 04:08:20 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 3GLTa18982 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:04:11 -0500 (EST) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <5f587c17.24359bbb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:04:11 EST Subject: SRR: What's with this funkie world of OURZ ?!,. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Y'know, today. . . people are getting hurt for no reason at all. People are having their hard worked for posessions stolen, their lives destroyed, their families destroyed, and does anyone seem to really care ? It's a shame how many people are living their un-true lives as their character everyday. Do they know who they are ? Do they know who they want to be ? People say their lives are tough, that it's hard growing up where they live, but do they really actually do their best to make the ever important change that could truly effect their own and everyone elses lives around them ? Is it really hard to ask for help ? Or is it harder to just forget all the bull and get out there and make an attempt at something, anything. This world of ourz isn't the same as it was 10, 5, even a year ago. Every day it changes, not necessarily for the better. . . but it does change. With strange people coming up with new ways to kill and destroy, or people coming up with new ways to create and save. . . who's to say what today will be like tomorrow. It kind of scares me how scarce the really truly true people in this world are. I meet as many people in this world as possible only to find out how many of them are only who they're TRYing to be. People change, thoughts change, ideas change too. But right now, the basic concept of this world is that of self preservation. Now that's not horrible, but it's not an evolutionary way to be at this day and age either. How huge will this world grow ? When we were only a miniscule few, we had to do what we could to see the light of tomorrow. But now, we are so many, that we hade to adapt our ways to compensate for everyone else. I see how it's hard for everyone to always agree. . . of course. I see how sometimes the smaller ideas and thoughts, and attempts made by the few are broken into an eventual collection of meaningless dust (stay with me here). But really, the very few of us ho can live past all of this, who can live past the noise, the silence, the pain and resistance. . . we will be the few who will bring forth the new world. And those giving the resistance, those giving the opposition to our natural evolution. . . those soon to be few will slowly die off, as did other species in our sacred past. Now these ideas are universal, they have nothing to do with me only, or you only, but they apply to every and anything anywhere. There are too many people with closed worlds and scared minds out there right now. And is there really a way to change it ? I most definately can not do it myself. But the majority. . . everyone. . . must be accepting and help themselves become the better stronger people that will lead our world forward to the future, no matter who or what they may be. I'm tired of seeing the innocent hurt. I grow tired of seein powerless people, voices unheard, complain or even deal with these dilemmas with a "positive attitude". Don't get me wrong, it is a way to keep yourself and others around you happy, but does everyone really do their part (whatever it may be) to enrich the lives of everyone possible ? There are so many millions of ways to help everyone and everything. You can do the smallest anything, a hug, some time, giving that one person something that they may have hungered for but had yet to realize. And you yourself would have possibly opened new doors for change in your own, and many others' lives. It's strange how so little can actually have such an effect on so much. If I knew then what I know now. . . my life would be diffirent (I love my life now though) but maybe I could have made the diffirence in some important peoples lives who now are somewhat stuck in this paradox. Too many do not realize the power they actually have. It has nothing to do with political power (for everyone) or strength (for everyone), but everyone has their own gift to the world that they could give to make this world a complete whole. Whatever it may be, however it may be given, however much, at whatever time. It doesn't matter. But the diffirence will never be made unless a diffirence is attempted to be made. Now I don't know what exactly has come over me. I was just thinking, about myself, some ex-friends, some new friends and possible loves. I was looking at the world, it's people, trying to see their thoughts and their actions. Trying to ask them questions and learn from them whatever possible to really know what is going on outside of ME. Sometimes it's good to wonder why. . . why everything. . . how everything. Sometimes i get confused about little things. Not school work, or work work. But confused as to whether I myself, and others are doing what they should be doing. Not really like what is lawful and correct, but what is me, and what are they. Are you following YOUR chosen path ? Are you doing what YOU need to do ? Do you know ??? I'm not saying that for some people, that their particular path may be destruction or pain, or a life of hell or anything like that. But everyone has a part in this world, in this community. And everyone had their way of achieving this. I'm not religious in the slightest sense of the word, and I'm not all wacked out on drugs or anything. I've just always been a quiet kind of thinking person. And now, within the past couple months, my world has changed, and I've totally opened up to this whole new other world. And I think, if my last life was just a vision, and my present is just a change, then will my future be but just a dream ? I can't say that my present is exactly what I want. There are beautiful people I want in my life, ugly people I want out. Nothing is definate. I suppose that we make our own "today". And tomorrow is built, slowly. . . by a collection of everyone. <--- Now if you can read this without a complete literal meaning of my thoughts. Then you'll be successful with your interpretation. But please don't just sit there, and let yourself think how you may usually think, just read it. Just look at it. Maybe, don't try to understand exactly what I'm saying, but see what it says to YOU. Then just maybe. . . you'll see something you haven't yet seen before. Anyway. . . strange dayze. . . HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 04:39:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11586 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 04:39:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 11578 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 04:39:23 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd98.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.162) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 04:39:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 98203 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 04:38:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402043855.98202.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.149.152 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:38:55 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.179.149.152] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: hak + siphon @ FGF Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:38:55 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk come check us out for a 2 hour mind-numbing set of deep bass, and killa subs. don't forget that science will be throwing down as well..... hak urban_assault[99] info:408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 04:59:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21117 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 04:59:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 21107 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 04:59:13 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 04:59:13 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id rOHLa27351; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:48:13 -0500 (EST) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <847af632.2435a60d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:48:13 EST Subject: Re: Go to Discovery To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>Only $5-dolla-suckie-suckie!!<< (o rafie) $10 MAKE U HOLLA!!!!!! In a message dated 99-04-01 19:32:55 EST, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << Yay! Go to Discovery tonight!! YEAAAHH!! Ah, picturesque Santa Rosa... Only $5-dolla-suckie-suckie!! Rafie PS- There's some South Park movie coming out this summer, I think. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 05:14:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28244 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 05:14:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 28236 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 05:14:31 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 05:14:31 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA23008 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:13:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from ali-ca9-18.ix.netcom.com(209.110.226.18) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023003; Thu Apr 1 23:13:31 1999 Message-ID: <3160B5AA.673BAD4D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 21:05:46 -0800 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: Feel Good Friday DJ LineUp (bsp) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Everyone... Here is the corrected and updated DJ pocket-lineup for Feel Good Friday, print it up, and bring it with you, so you know whose spinning. Hope to see you on the dancefloor. And if you see me running around, Please come over and say HI, to introduce yourselves, and share a hug :) ... Keep it mellow, Vlad Progressive and Trance Room Kid Loose & Tosh (DreamLand) [10 - 11:30] gEoff ;) (Stargaze Family) [11:30 - 12:30] DJ Prophet (Trancefusion) [12:30 - 1:30] Kwashi (Feel Good Family) [1:30 - 2:45] Kevin Kind (Feel Good Family) [2:45 - 4] Carlos (SF House Collective) [4 - 5:30] Eric Spire (Silver Pearl / Quest) [5:30 - 7] Paucus (BeatDown) [7 - 8] MC Ray Vonie House & Downbeat Chill Room Sponge [10 - 11] Shubert [11 - 12] Ulrich [12 - 1] Mook [1 - 2:30] B))merang [2:30 - 4] Triad [4 - 5:30] Deepfog & Zeramy [5:30 - 8] Jungle and Breaks Room Andy W & Science (Viberation) [10 -12] Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault) [12 - 2] Ghost & Frank Nitty (Ghostribe) [2- 4] Tripnotix (BeatDown) [4 - 5] Joe Lanzon (Oldskool) [5 - 6] SideBurn Slim (NVP) [6 - 7] Jeff Taisch (Lightseed) [7 - 8] MC DUH Only Responsible Partiers that brings a can of food for the homeless are welcome. 10 p.m. till 8 a.m. @ an all New VIRGIN East Bay Location. $10 with a smile & presale ticket stub from any previous Feel Good Party or $15 with just a smile :) Limited Capacity - NO Pre-Sales & No Shady-Shit Allowed!!! For Location and Directions Please call any of the info lines after 6pm Friday evening. 415-263-0483 / 510-888-2358 / 408-881-0785 Keep It Simple, Mellow & Real Good with Feel Good From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 05:30:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8111 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 05:30:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 8081 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 05:30:35 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 05:30:35 -0000 Received: from WOO1121@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id rOa0007942; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:25:54 -0500 (EST) From: WOO1121@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:25:54 EST Subject: Re: Go to Discovery To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WOO1121@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's tonight! i'm getting ready to go now so bye bye. Love Amanda Kung Pow From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 05:42:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13539 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 05:42:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 13519 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 05:42:20 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 05:42:20 -0000 Received: from ShockVibe@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vXKJa24606 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:41:16 -0500 (EST) From: ShockVibe@aol.com Message-ID: <4779aaa0.2435b27c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:41:16 EST Subject: Re: Go to Discovery To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: ShockVibe@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its really next week beautiful peeps. Sorry to burst ur bubble.. I knew it wasn't today cuz i was talking to greg and gianni today. But I called anyways to make sure.. and there's just underground dj's tonight :T Gotta luv them Harmony parties! I hope no one left already thinkin' its tonight... =oO LoVe & LiGhT, Sean ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu wrote: Yay! Go to Discovery tonight!! YEAAAHH!! Ah, picturesque Santa Rosa... Only $5-dolla-suckie-suckie!! Rafie PS- There's some South Park movie coming out this summer, I think. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 05:49:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17001 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 05:49:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 16993 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 05:49:52 -0000 Received: from mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 05:49:52 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-32-99.snfc21.pacbell.net) by mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.01.13.19.49.p4) with ESMTP id <0F9J00563REZLI@mta1.snfc21.pbi.net> for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:33:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:35:00 -0800 From: dj flux Subject: Re: <> The Matrix To: warehouse warriors Reply-to: djflux@pacbell.net Message-id: <370456FF.BADD31EF@pacbell.net> Organization: b.a.s.s. kru/compound records MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <199904011001.CAA29577@netcom19.netcom.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Kevin Simonich wrote: > > > > Fuck yeah. See this movie, see this movie, see this movie. > > It cheeses out at certain points, but is worth it. It's so freakin' good, > > you're actually not bothered by the fact that you are watching Keanu > > Reeves try and do martial arts! > > Oh, and for those of you wondering: No, it's not anything even remotely > like Neuromancer. It's far more like "Dark City" than anything else I've > seen recently. And yeah, while it does cheese out at times, it does at least > manage to avoid a lot of the typical Hollyweird cliches, and remains quite > interesting throughout the entire film. Definitely worth your 8 bucks to > see it on the big screen. :) > > -Opus not to harp on the topic this much but this movie fucking RULEZ!! seriously, *incredible* special effects that have to be seen to be believed and the plot is pretty fresh to boot! definitely the coolest thing to come out of hollywood in some time. this movie really makes you think about where all this technology is headed and gets quite dark and gothic in places, too. ok, i'll shut up now. flux From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:08:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24720 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:08:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24682 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:08:04 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:08:04 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vIAGa27664 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:07:26 -0500 (EST) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: <47799841.2435b89e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:07:26 EST Subject: Are U gonna Feel Good on Friday? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey peeps!! So who's going to feel good Friday!?! Are there any plans for meeting spots?? Same thing like always 1:00am water booth? I don't know what i'm gonna ware, but i'll be there!! Can we bring are own water?? If your not going to FGF, have a safe and FUN weekend!! And *HAPPY EASTER* PS> What's there to do in SF on a Saturday nite? Me and my friends are=20 staying a hotel after FGF, so wee need something to do.. I know the Gatherin= g=20 is going on, how much and where? Thanks for any help! ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 *P*L*U*R*=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:11:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26151 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:11:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 26143 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:11:27 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:11:27 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vQEWa26400 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:10:05 -0500 (EST) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <2cfed804.2435b93d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:10:05 EST Subject: Re: Are U gonna Feel Good on Friday? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/1/99 10:08:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 JanetBoy7@aol.com writes: << Hey peeps!! =20 So who's going to feel good Friday!?! =20 Are there any plans for meeting spots?? Same thing like always 1:00am water booth? =20 I don't know what i'm gonna ware, but i'll be there!! =20 Can we bring are own water?? =20 If your not going to FGF, have a safe and FUN weekend!! And *HAPPY EASTER* =20 PS> What's there to do in SF on a Saturday nite? Me and my friends are=20 staying a hotel after FGF, so wee need something to do.. I know the=20 Gathering=20 is going on, how much and where? Thanks for any help! =20 =20 ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 =20 =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 *P*L*U*R*=20 >> I'M THERE!!! =20 Tami (the sober candy raver) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:16:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28390 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:16:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 28377 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:16:52 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:16:52 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 3XXKa20958 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:15:33 -0500 (EST) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <571db974.2435ba85@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:15:33 EST Subject: Re: Are U gonna Feel Good on Friday? To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm gonna wear a buncha laminates.. so if ya see them (they say my name on them) come say hi... I personally don't think the water booth is a good spot to meet (TRUST ME ON THIS ONE) so how bout in the outdoor area at around 1am?? sound like a plan?? see ya all there! hugs, trice From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:18:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29904 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:18:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 29889 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:18:55 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:18:55 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 3CGEa27661 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:18:05 -0500 (EST) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <731449d7.2435bb1d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:18:05 EST Subject: NRR: have you heard this song? To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey has anyone heard the song "Everyone is free to wear sunscreen." on the radio lately? The first time I heard it I thought it was a comerical or something, but it's got some pretty touching stuff in it. Not too great musically speaking, but emotionally pleasing. Especially the line, "Dance, even if you have no where to do it but your living room." Have a safe weekend! hugs ns'tuff, tha tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:20:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1114 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:20:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 1103 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:20:16 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:20:16 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vZILa07953 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:19:08 -0500 (EST) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:19:08 EST Subject: Re: friday raving ~> FGF To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/1/99 7:12:33 PM, TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: <> mmm... Yum... Yum.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:22:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2342 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:22:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 2332 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:22:07 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:22:07 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vJUBa27363; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:21:26 -0500 (EST) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <65104eb8.2435bbe6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:21:26 EST Subject: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, so. . . I just got back from watching a deaf play, "Little Women," for my sign language class assignment and I just now realized how lucky us ravers are by being able to listen to music and dance, whereas, the deaf, don't get the joy of it. They don't go out dancing, or go to record and music stores. What do they do for fun? besides just socializing and other stuff. Sorry, just had to share that. . . It was just something that was on my mind tonite. Hope to see you guys at FGE! Luv n hugz n stuff Tami =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:23:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3429 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:23:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3420 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:23:09 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:23:09 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA17749 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA22610; Thu, 1 Apr 99 22:23:01 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:22:58 -0800 (PST) From: aminita To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: am i crazy? In-Reply-To: <19990401144402.29711.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk am i seeing things or are you guys getting this crazy guy about the [mailinglist] and stop these stoopid emails etc? what's up? it's really werid. wellit's bellow. so am i crazy? aminita On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, audrey q wrote: > I'm sorry, but i never sent you any emails. I don't > know what it is that you received from this address but > as far as i know i didn't send you anything. In fact i > don't even know you. If you can help me, please send me > whatever it is that you received because this is the > third email i've received concerning an email i never > sent to any of you. > > --- John Walker wrote: > > excuse me > > > > can you please send your emails to the right place. > > thanks > > > > i dont want your stoopid emails > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:33:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8530 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:33:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8491 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:32:59 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:32:59 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vSHOa11444 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:32:19 -0500 (EST) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: <1018336f.2435be73@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:32:19 EST Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/1/99 10:22:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, Taiida@aol.com writes: << Ok, so. . . I just got back from watching a deaf play, "Little Women," for my sign language class assignment and I just now realized how lucky us ravers are by being able to listen to music and dance, whereas, the deaf, don't get the joy of it. They don't go out dancing, or go to record and music stores. What do they do for fun? besides just socializing and other stuff. Sorry, just had to share that. . . It was just something that was on my mind tonite. Hope to see you guys at FGE! Luv n hugz n stuff Tami =) >> Well its good to see that you're really getting something out of your sign language class. You really understand their culture. My brother is deaf and he finds plenty of things that are fun without music. I agree it is absolutely wonderful but just because you can't hear doesn't mean you don't have any fun LaalKuchaa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:38:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10568 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:38:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 10559 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:38:35 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:38:35 -0000 Received: from WOO1121@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vAVTa07140 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:37:49 -0500 (EST) From: WOO1121@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:37:49 EST Subject: DISCOVERY: OOPS To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WOO1121@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well thanks guys, Rafie and i got a little confused :) so we just realized that we should save all our excitement till next Thurs. Hahahahaha! It's a good thing we found out before i drove to Santa Rosa from Oakland. Well guess i'll rest up for FGF. See you all there except for Rafie cause he'll be in Greece...eeeewwwwwwwww! Love Amanda Kung Pow* PS: thanks for the compliment on my name Mandi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:44:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12947 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:44:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 12932 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:44:17 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:44:17 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vUEPa20958 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:43:27 -0500 (EST) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: <5d1339db.2435c10f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:43:27 EST Subject: BSP: Shubert @ Feel Good Friday To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: DjShUbErT@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ive never done a BSP so i figured what the heck ... ill be spinning the funky beats from 11-12 in the house/downtempo room so come say hi and dance! Peace, Shubert From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:54:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15212 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:54:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 15202 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:54:09 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:54:09 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA17421; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:53:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from ali-ca77-106.ix.netcom.com(209.110.238.234) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017352; Fri Apr 2 00:52:27 1999 Message-ID: <3704689C.4F8007CA@happykidsproductions.org> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 22:50:04 -0800 From: happy kids X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carrie Noot CC: SF Raves Mailing List Subject: Re: NRR: Don't Buy Gas on Friday 4/2/99 (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you know what i heard!?!? i heard from someone watching the news that in the next year or two, gas prices will reach 2.5 to 3 dollars a gallon... i will have long bought my own bart train by then. -hki Carrie Noot wrote: > > ok well i know there was supposed to be one later in april, but i > guess there's another one. i saw gas today for 1.87 so i'm down for > this shit. support the cause! > > carrie > Carrie Anne Noot > cnoot@kuci.org > > > > > > > > > > GAS OUT > > > > > > > > > > > > THE GREAT "GAS OUT" > > > > It's time we did something about the price > > > > of gasoline in Northern California! We are all sick and > > > > tired of high prices when there are literally > > > > millions of gallons in storage. > > > > Know what I found out? If there was just > > > > ONE day when no one purchased any > > > > gasoline, prices would drop drastically. > > > > The so-called oil cartel has decided to > > > > slow production by some 2 million barrels > > > > per day to drive up the price. I have decided > > > > to see how many Northern Californians we can get > > > > to NOT BUY ANY GASOLINE on one > > > > particular day! > > > > Let's have a GAS OUT! Do not buy any > > > > gasoline on FRIDAY APRIL 2, 1999!!!!! > > > > Buy on Thursday before, or Saturday after. > > > > Do not buy any gasoline on FRIDAY, > > > > APRIL 2, 1999. > > > > Wanna help? Send this message to > > > > everyone you know. Ask them to do the same. > > > > All we need is a few million to participate in > > > > order to make a difference. > > > > Let me know how many you will send out. > > > > We CAN make a difference. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > ======================================================== > http://www.INVESTools.com > Sandra Horwitz INVESTools, Inc. > Director of Finance 3698 Haven Avenue > (650) 482-3050 #223 Suite A > fax (650) 482-3060 Redwood City, CA 94063 > >  -- me: ian@happykidsproductions.org us: http://happykidsproductions.org <--'scuse the mess, still in progress life, love, laughter, and bombtracks - these things are grand From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 06:54:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15820 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 06:54:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 15811 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 06:54:32 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 06:54:32 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vYMCa03793 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:54:00 -0500 (EST) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:54:00 EST Subject: im so confused To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk k this gets kinda dramatic folks... starting off fine i went with my dad to see the matrix tonite. fucking awesome movie. paranoia overload there! great ass special affects and aall that and a plot to fry ur brain (sober). i highly recomend this flick to any avid cyberpunk fanatic or anyone looking for a good flick before EPISODE I ;) ok yeah so after that i went to melos pizza with dad to get dinner. so im sitting down and my dad is telling me about this fone call he got at work. "yeah so u remember Burton? i introduced u to him a while ago" dad says "uh huh yeah the guy that went to a couple raves right?" i replied. i went to work with my dad once and i met this guy and he was into orbital and chem. bros. and he was like "be careful at raves!" really fun guy. "well," continued dad, "remember how a few months ago his girl friend commited suicide?" "yeah..." his girlfriend for no reason at all skipped work went into a hotel room in oakland and commited suicide. he was so messed up over that! then after awhile i kinda forgot about it. "well...aaron...that call i got after i hung up with u was about Burton..." (eh? what about him is he sick?) "....they found him in the same hotel room today...he um..." i fucking lost it. right in melos pizza i bust out and almost started retching all over the table. i just cant belive something like this could happen. how could he do that? how could he just step over the edge and END it? thats it NO more! its not even sane. i just totally fell into shock or something and couldnt get his smile out of my mind or his actually being in that hotel room. i dont know why he did it, how, or anything but it hit me harder than my grandmas death last year. im so confused right now. i dont know wether to feel sad, depressed, angry, sick, small, or just lonely but its really buggin me. i think now i totally value mine and my friends lives we have more than anything in the world and if anything ever hapened to them i would do anything in my power to make them ok. i know before this i woul d have shared remorse or whatever with a friend who just broke up with his/her g/f or b/f but now i think we totally take EVERYTHING we have for granted and we should all be totally HAPPY and elated that we have such a special gift as life, and friends, and comfort, and happiness, and even sadness. We all have this thing called amotions and we should treasure them all wether they are good or bad and remember that they are the most powerful things in the universe. no weapon can hurt a person more or longer than a single word or look. we should not only treasure but also learn to keep emotion in check and never let it overwhelm ourselves complettely. or at least the bad emotions. thats the wrong way to go about it. theres good in everything on this earth and we all need to find that good and magnify it for ourselves. i see so many people who have fallen into some kind of pit in life where they have given up on the positive things in life and complettely destroy themselves in this negativity. it shouldnt happen but it does and if any of u ever think of letting ur despair get ahold of u please dont even THINK of death it is so unreasonably stupid and just plain fucked up to even consider! i cant even think straight right now. if thismakes no sense please forgive....im not good at typing my thoughtsout (id rather talk but everyones asleep) -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 07:10:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20753 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 07:10:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20723 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 07:10:27 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 07:10:27 -0000 Received: from IIBriSkII@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id uTEPa00135; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:09:18 -0500 (EST) From: IIBriSkII@aol.com Message-ID: <69122913.2435c71e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:09:18 EST Subject: Re: NRR: Don't Buy Gas on Friday 4/2/99 (fwd) To: happykids@happykidsproductions.org, cnoot@falco.kuci.uci.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: IIBriSkII@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree with that.... i have to drive over 2 hours to get to parties so i just put is 10 bucks and got around 10 gallons... but today i put in 10 bucks and got only 6... sup the that... so im not buying any tomorrow... good idea... peace... BriSkE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 07:10:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21062 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 07:10:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 20950 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 07:10:37 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 07:10:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402070942.3029.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.19.235] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 23:09:42 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:09:42 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No, if anybody ever TRULY understood how lucky they were, they wouldnt still live here. Steve =) --- Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/1/99 10:22:18 PM Pacific > Standard Time, Taiida@aol.com > writes: > > << Ok, so. . . I just got back from watching a deaf > play, "Little Women," for > my > sign language class assignment and I just now > realized how lucky us ravers > are by being able to listen to music and dance, > whereas, the deaf, don't get > the joy of it. They don't go out dancing, or go to > record and music stores. > > What do they do for fun? besides just socializing > and other stuff. > Sorry, just had to share that. . . It was just > something that was on my > mind > tonite. Hope to see you guys at FGE! > Luv n hugz n stuff > Tami =) >> > > Well its good to see that you're really getting > something out of your sign > language class. You really understand their culture. > My brother is deaf and > he finds plenty of things that are fun without music. > I agree it is > absolutely wonderful but just because you can't hear > doesn't mean you don't > have any fun > LaalKuchaa > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 07:14:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22963 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 07:14:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 22955 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 07:14:19 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 07:14:19 -0000 Received: from AtheistJon@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vXULa27661 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:13:49 -0500 (EST) From: AtheistJon@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:13:49 EST Subject: Re: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AtheistJon@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay is this rave related? NO! Get this garbage off of the ravepost or at least put NRR because it is just that NRR. And what the fuck are you so upset about? Its a friend of your dad's you don't even know the fucker, stop your whining , the death of a stranger struck you harder than your own grandma, there is something definitely wrong in that are you telling me your grandma never smiled? AtheistJon <> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 07:22:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25211 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 07:22:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 25203 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 07:21:59 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 07:21:59 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 3NUNa22310 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:20:53 -0500 (EST) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: <10180a6f.2435c9d5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:20:53 EST Subject: **(Pacific/JL.bsp)Derrick Carter, 4.3.99** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: Tekno313@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What's a Jack Move? This Saturday night, April 3rd, the Sea of Aries will reach high tide as Pacific and the Justice League Sound System bring you Jack Move. Featuring(on 3 decks): Derrick Carter(first sf appearance in 2 yrs.) Galen(pacific) Monty Luke(justice league) Solar(pacific) Joe Rice & Kamahele(justice league 2x4) The J-Bird(pacific) Jon Hardy(red ant, austrailia) 21 & up, please. Pre-sale tickets are available now at Primal Records, Berkeley(510.548.8511) and Tweekin Records in SF(415.626.6995). They are $15 and moving like hotcakes on a butter platter, babay! For more info, please dial the JLSS or Pacific Info lines at 415.705.0586 & 415.292.3240. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 07:39:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2855 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 07:39:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 2840 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 07:39:48 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 07:39:48 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vWVSa18521; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:39:04 -0500 (EST) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <857cf017.2435ce18@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:39:04 EST Subject: atheistjon's SFR posts and AOL Terms Of Service To: AtheistJon@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just so u know, your comments on the list are unappreciated, i could care less if u r just trying to get attention or not, but 90% of the posts u have made are violating aol TOS, and i have taken the liberty of forwarding each of them to aol, so don't be surprised if u loose your acount, then maybe you will learn that even joking around about the stuff u do is not only rude, but just not funny at all... i invite all other aol members on the list to do the same just forward atheistjon's posts to TOSEmail1 or TOSEmail2 with a lil note explaing why the messages are being forwarded!!! this type of attitude has been tollerated long enough, and even if we can't kick him off the list, (the whole sign on again with another address thing + the no censorship ideal) we can surely try and get his AOL account terminated... i'm tired of his insensitive, racist, negative attitude!!!! hope everyone spent at least a few minutes outside on this beautiful sunny day we had!!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 07:56:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9037 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 07:56:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 9020 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 07:56:36 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 07:56:36 -0000 Received: from GIANNI3333@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vCPJa28978 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:55:57 -0500 (EST) From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:55:57 EST Subject: RE: History of the scene....... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: GIANNI3333@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Gianni here. I was reading everyone's posts when I started to think of the first rave I went to. Some of you might remember it. It was around 92' I think. I forgot who was playing but it was called TOONTOWN and it was inside the Fashion Center. It was an unbelievable party. I got my first "rave" CD there (which I have since lost) it was bye Twitch. I also remember that they were passing out little stickers that said "IF." Anyway I was just pondering my thought's and thought I'd share them with you. GIANNI, From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 08:01:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11044 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 08:01:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 11035 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 08:01:34 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 08:01:34 -0000 Received: from GIANNI3333@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vGOCa07140 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:00:58 -0500 (EST) From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:00:58 EST Subject: Fwd: atheistjon's SFR posts and AOL Terms Of Service To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_f9a65493.2435d33a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: GIANNI3333@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_f9a65493.2435d33a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_f9a65493.2435d33a_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: GIANNI3333@aol.com From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Full-name: GIANNI3333 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:57:46 EST Subject: Re: atheistjon's SFR posts and AOL Terms Of Service To: MoonChyld1@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: GIANNI3333@aol.com WHOOOO!!!!!!!!!HOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! FOR TINA!!!!!!!!! Nice one and good thinking. GIANNI, --part1_f9a65493.2435d33a_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 08:33:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18739 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 08:33:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 18707 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 08:33:43 -0000 Received: from f264.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.155) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 08:33:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 81354 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 08:33:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402083316.81353.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.198.161 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:33:14 PST X-Originating-IP: [205.188.198.161] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Fwd: (nrr)Something to think about come April 15 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:33:14 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1d61bc08_34a4bb12$428e70c5" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_000_1d61bc08_34a4bb12$428e70c5 Content-type: text/plain >From: "Susan Plant" >To: sdparks@ix.netcom.com, lacanard@aol.com, one_eye@earthlink.net, hashaw@gateway.net, spydr@preferred.com, kris10vs@yahoo.com, pshaw@pressstart.com, progers@mailgate.loyola.edu, t4tggr@hotmail.com, rtune@earthlink.net, snelson@ucsd.edu >CC: scammer@compuserve.com, tfwilson@compuserve.com, stsushima@aol.com, t17mora@aol.com, wynn14me@aol.com >Subject: Something to think about come April 15 >Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 06:22:02 GMT > > >One day, this man, Tony, died. When he was sent to be judged, he was >told that he had committed a sin, and that he could not go to heaven >right away. He asked what he did and God told him that he cheated on >his income taxes, and that the only way he could get into heaven would >be to sleep with a 500 pound, stupid, butt-ugly woman for the next >five years and enjoy it. Tony decided that this was a small price to >pay for an eternity in heaven. So off he went with this enormous >woman, pretending to be happy. > >As he was walking along, he saw his friend Carlos up ahead. Carlos was >with an even bigger, uglier woman than he was with. When he approached >Carlos he asked him what was going on, and Carlos replied "I cheated >on my income taxes and scammed the government out of a lot of >money...even more then you did." They both shook their heads in >understanding and figured that as long as they have to be with these >women, they might as well hang out together to help pass the time. > >Now Tony, Carlos, and their two beastly women were walking along, >minding their own business when Tony and Carlos could have sworn that >they saw their friend Jon up ahead, only this man was with an >absolutely drop dead gorgeous supermodel/centerfold. Stunned, Tony and >Carlos approached the man and in fact it was their friend Jon. They >asked him how is he with this unbelievable goddess, while they were >stuck with these god-awful women. > >Jon replied "I have no idea, and i'm definitely not complaining. This >has been absolutely the best time of my life, and I have five years of >the best sex any man could hope for to look forward to. There is only >one thing that I can't seem to understand. After everytime we have >sex, she rolls over and murmurs to herself, "Damn income taxes"!!!!! > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_1d61bc08_34a4bb12$428e70c5 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Content-Description: Return-Path: JMUTUNGI@scuacc.scu.edu Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (mail-gw2.pacbell.net [206.13.28.53]) by mail-sf2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA26368 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from SCUACC.SCU.EDU (scuacc.scu.edu [129.210.8.1]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id SAA18706 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:28:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from scuacc.scu.edu by scuacc.scu.edu (PMDF V5.1-8 #2527) id <01IU5U3V742Q001NBN@scuacc.scu.edu> for jmutungi@pacbell.net; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 18:29:29 PST X-Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by scuacc.scu.edu (PMDF V5.1-8 #2527) with ESMTP id <01IO2CTKYQOC005C6K@scuacc.scu.edu> for jmutungi@scuacc.scu.edu; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:51:21 PDT X-Received: from scv2.apple.com (A17-128-100-140.apple.com [17.128.100.140]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16954; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:13:52 -0700 X-Received: from [17.192.34.63] (chapda.apple.com [17.192.34.63]) by scv2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20642; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:13:48 -0700 Resent-date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 18:29:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:14:49 -0700 Resent-from: jmutungi@scuacc.scu.edu From: David Chapman Subject: Something to think about come April 15 Sender: JMUTUNGI@scuacc.scu.edu X-Sender: d.chapma@mail.apple.com Resent-to: jmutungi@pacbell.net To: Annie Chapman , Cheri Chapman , Dad Chapman , Brandon Crowe , Patrick Jones , John Mutungi , Jorge Morales , Thomas Chapman , Alan Ewalt , "Jagadish \"Jughead\" Iyengar" , "B. Dearing" , Darla Chapman Resent-message-id: Message-id: <199709252213.PAA20642@scv2.apple.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII One day, this man, Tony, died. When he was sent to be judged, he was told that he had committed a sin, and that he could not go to heaven right away. He asked what he did and God told him that he cheated on his income taxes, and that the only way he could get into heaven would be to sleep with a 500 pound, stupid, butt-ugly woman for the next five years and enjoy it. Tony decided that this was a small price to pay for an eternity in heaven. So off he went with this enormous woman, pretending to be happy. As he was walking along, he saw his friend Carlos up ahead. Carlos was with an even bigger, uglier woman than he was with. When he approached Carlos he asked him what was going on, and Carlos replied "I cheated on my income taxes and scammed the government out of a lot of money...even more then you did." They both shook their heads in understanding and figured that as long as they have to be with these women, they might as well hang out together to help pass the time. Now Tony, Carlos, and their two beastly women were walking along, minding their own business when Tony and Carlos could have sworn that they saw their friend Jon up ahead, only this man was with an absolutely drop dead gorgeous supermodel/centerfold. Stunned, Tony and Carlos approached the man and in fact it was their friend Jon. They asked him how is he with this unbelievable goddess, while they were stuck with these god-awful women. Jon replied "I have no idea, and i'm definately not complaining. This has been absolutely the best time of my life, and I have five years of the best sex any man could hope for to look forward to. There is only one thing that I can't seem to understand. After everytime we have sex, she rolls over and murmur's to herself, "Damn income taxes"!!!!! ------=_NextPart_000_1d61bc08_34a4bb12$428e70c5-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 08:39:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21218 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 08:39:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 21205 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 08:39:13 -0000 Received: from f109.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.228) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 08:39:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 31899 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 08:38:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402083851.31898.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.109.233.163 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:38:51 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.109.233.163] From: "In Vitro" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: How to get to spin at parties? Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:38:51 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As everybody wants to get a gig as a dj, so do I. For years I've been wasting money on records and finally I decided to play them out one day. But what should I do to make this plan come true? Are there any masters out there who are willing to share their wisdom to us little wanna-be-djs-outta-box. What is the best way to contact clubs in order to offer them my service of entertainment ? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 08:45:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23302 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 08:45:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23285 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 08:45:41 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 08:45:41 -0000 Received: from KidOnix@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 6GKRa03888; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:44:25 -0500 (EST) From: KidOnix@aol.com Message-ID: <2cfe9f2a.2435dd69@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:44:25 EST Subject: Maritime? To: aminita@linex.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: KidOnix@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey I dont know if anyone else got the Flyer for the "420 Hemp Festival" at F-8 or not.. but it says on it that its gonna be at Maritime Hall and the times are 4PM-4AM.. is Maritime giving back there after hour permits.. or is this just cuz its not a Rave? *Kid Onix* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 08:57:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26181 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 08:57:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 26172 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 08:57:56 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 08:57:56 -0000 Received: from GIANNI3333@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id iECDa20039; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:57:24 -0500 (EST) From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:57:24 EST Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? To: clatterbox@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: GIANNI3333@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No master here but I do have some good advice. First and probably the most important thing is to make your self a demo tape. (Take your time it will take a few tries to get it the way you want.) Then use that master to make as many copies as you want get out. Then make it a point to go up to promoters (when their not busy) and tell them the same thing you told us and give them your tape. It is me personal belief that this is the key to any up and coming DJ's success. You could be the next Sasha but no one will know if you don't go out and promote yourself. It might take a while but if your tape is good you will get booked. There are lots of GOOD bay area promoters that are always looking for new talent. Try Vlad for example or Greg Sandler ect. ect. there's lots of others. I wish you all the luck and if there's any other questions I could possibly answer call me at Harmonics Mon, Wed, or Fri. Good Luck!!!!!!!!! GIANNI, P.S. When you get your tape done I'd like to hear it. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 09:02:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28166 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 09:02:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28153 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 09:02:04 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 09:02:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 90123 invoked by uid 4000); 2 Apr 1999 09:02:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 09:02:38 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:02:38 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Behlendorf To: Tekno313@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *No Trainspot Zone* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 Tekno313@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/31/99 9:56:59 PM, chrispeee@yahoo.com writes: > > >P.S. How far does someone have to go to get kicked off AOL? I'd do the > >research, if I had the time... > > AOL people can get kicked off immediately, if AOL is notified that there is > someone on AOL that is offending people. I believe though that it only goes > for people who are making the offenses within AOL though...I can check up on > it..although I dont know that it would make a difference(kicking him off). Yet another reason not to have an AOL account, I guess. If I can say something controversial which causes people to complain to someone else who can yank my account... whoa. Eventually, there'll be a troll who isn't an AOL subscriber, who runs his/her own email servers and is their own admin, and their own ISP, and for whom you'll have no one to complain to. At that point, the best thing to do is what you should all be doing anyways, which is to filter posts from these lusers to the trash can, automatically.... Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 09:13:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1860 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 09:13:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 1840 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 09:13:26 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 09:13:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402090708.3575.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 01:07:08 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:07:08 -0800 (PST) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? To: In Vitro , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whoo, I get to answer something like this a couple times a year on this list. Here are my suggestions: 1) GET INVOLVED! Get involved with a crew or throw your own party. In this scene you get out what you put in. 2) Mixtapes- Hand them out to people you think might be interested in, and appreciative of your music. However, it REALLY helps to get to know the people you give the tapes to...see #1. 3) Practice... when you do get your chance, you'll want to impress. Work on your style, something that makes you distinctive and unique. good luck, Science ---In Vitro wrote: > > As everybody wants to get a gig as a dj, so do I. For years I've been > wasting money on records and finally I decided to play them out one day. > But what should I do to make this plan come true? Are there any masters > out there who are willing to share their wisdom to us little > wanna-be-djs-outta-box. What is the best way to contact clubs in order > to offer them my service of entertainment ? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 09:14:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2473 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 09:14:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 2465 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 09:14:02 -0000 Received: from dragon.ulink.net (209.160.21.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 09:14:02 -0000 Received: from ulink.net (max2-89.ulink.net [209.160.21.89]) by dragon.ulink.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id 2D5FPDM9; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:14:02 -0800 Message-ID: <37048999.67523EF2@ulink.net> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 01:10:50 -0800 From: Dragn'fly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . References: <65104eb8.2435bbe6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, that's just a streotype. I've known plenty of deaf people, 3 of which were resident dancers at a club in SF a few years back. And they were DAMN GOOD dancers at that!!! Deaf people, like many who can hear, feel the music. After all, what is music besides the organization of sound waves... You don't need to "hear" the music to have rythmn. Other than that, they do everything a "hearing person" can do for fun: watch TV, read a book, go to the movies (yes, they have hearing devices for the deaf a theaters), as well as rave. : ) dina > They don't go out dancing, or go to record and music stores. > What do they do for fun? besides just socializing and other stuff. > > Sorry, just had to share that. . . It was just something that was on my mind > tonite. Hope to see you guys at FGE! > > Luv n hugz n stuff > Tami =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 09:14:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3079 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 09:14:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 3040 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 09:14:16 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 09:14:16 -0000 Received: from AtheistJon@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vLXTa26361 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 04:13:22 -0500 (EST) From: AtheistJon@aol.com Message-ID: <2a146edf.2435e432@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 04:13:22 EST Subject: Re: atheistjon's SFR posts and AOL Terms Of Service To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AtheistJon@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Tina, Forward to your hearts content, but since this is a public forum they can't do a thing. And even if my account was terminated, I'd just be back on in a matter of minutes. And what the hell happened to freedom of speech, so every time someone says something you don't agree with such as talking about how many hits of E they did last night, it'll bother some prissy bitch like yourself and wham Forward it! Off with his head. Anyway I'm not going away :) luv, The cuddly Atheist From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 09:21:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5589 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 09:21:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 5573 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 09:21:30 -0000 Received: from web215.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 09:21:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402092248.27989.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.19.235] by web215.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 01:22:48 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:22:48 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: Re: *No Trainspot Zone* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: Brian Behlendorf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thats too hard! *whinewhine* Steve =/ > to do is what you should all be doing anyways, which > is to filter posts > from these lusers to the trash can, automatically.... > > Brian > > > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 09:35:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11123 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 09:35:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 11115 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 09:35:52 -0000 Received: from f66.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.206) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 09:35:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 20922 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 09:35:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402093529.20921.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.109.238.30 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 01:35:28 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.109.238.30] From: "In Vitro" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 01:35:28 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for your quick replies. Everything sounds pretty reasonable as far as promotion through mixtapes is concerned. But where can I most likely find the right people? Or how can I make sure that the mixtapes get to those people? Are there any formats for tapes I should consider when handing them to the promoters? Thanks >Whoo, I get to answer something like this a couple times a year on >this list. Here are my suggestions: > >1) GET INVOLVED! Get involved with a crew or throw your own party. In >this scene you get out what you put in. >2) Mixtapes- Hand them out to people you think might be interested in, >and appreciative of your music. However, it REALLY helps to get to >know the people you give the tapes to...see #1. >3) Practice... when you do get your chance, you'll want to impress. >Work on your style, something that makes you distinctive and unique. > >good luck, > >Science > > > > >---In Vitro wrote: >> >> As everybody wants to get a gig as a dj, so do I. For years I've been >> wasting money on records and finally I decided to play them out one >day. >> But what should I do to make this plan come true? Are there any >masters >> out there who are willing to share their wisdom to us little >> wanna-be-djs-outta-box. What is the best way to contact clubs in >order >> to offer them my service of entertainment ? >> > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 10:13:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8328 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 10:13:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 8319 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 10:13:32 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 10:13:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 90359 invoked by uid 4000); 2 Apr 1999 10:14:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 10:14:06 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:14:06 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Behlendorf To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com cc: SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: history of our scene In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > "Cyberia: life in the trenches of hyperspace" by Douglas Rushkoff and Ick ick, ack, spew... there are so many things in that book that simply didn't happen the way that Rushkoff likes to think they happened, but oh, telling them that way makes it all sound so much more important... or something... A friend of mine (who was managing the band Psychic TV at the time this book supposedly covers) gave this book a four-word review: "It ruined my weekend". :) > I want to know when some of the oldskool collectives in the bay started, and > where some of them went to, as well as legendary parties and locations that > aren't used anymore. The BART Tunnel?? Heh, I never heard of a party taking place in BART tunnels - though I have heard of boombox parties where a group of 50 club kids would spend a couple of hours taking various BART trains armed with boomboxes blasting some punk-ass techno, kinda of a travelling party... as well as a party held right on the Caltrain tracks right at the mouth of the tunnel underneath Potrero Hill, a party where starting at 6am there was a couple hundred tons of steel barrelling down the middle of the dance floor every 15 minutes. :) Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 10:51:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26447 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 10:51:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 26439 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 10:51:22 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 10:51:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 90415 invoked by uid 4000); 2 Apr 1999 10:51:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 10:51:55 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:51:55 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Behlendorf To: Max McCauley cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR moony shit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > tonight is a blue moon, which is when there are 2 full moons in a single > calendar month. Actually, when a season contains four full moons, the third is called a blue moon. So this past one wasn't blue. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/1999/04/01/national0356EST0494.DTL Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 11:04:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28354 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 11:04:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28346 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 11:04:16 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 11:04:16 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-128.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.128]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA12252; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:04:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990402093630.0070fdc0@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 03:36:30 -0600 To: AtheistJon@aol.com From: Nuku Subject: Re: atheistjon's SFR posts and AOL Terms Of Service Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Welp kydz, This person, this thread is soon going into my dead horse file. Your freedom of speech is also comes with a responsiblity of having that right. If you decide that you will willfully HURT ppl going down to the baser foundations of their emotions how can you expect them to NOT want to a) kick your ass and or b) get you removed from this list. I mean really Jon do you think because you have a right to speech you have a right to hurt ppl? Yes it's just words but still those words do mean something. Not everyone can have a ducks back and let the water roll off. Each and every person has different expericences that make them either pissed or willing to let you slide by with what you say. IF ppl could actually think about some of the things they are saying then we as a ppl would not need to have higher ups like AOL yank accounts n shite. Now I understand that not everyone will think that what they say is offensive and that is a completely diferent situation..a misunderstanding. But i think that you KNOW you are hurting ppl (also your not even hurting them for like their own good your doing it for some amusement), and if you don't know that then well here it is. JON YOUR RASCIST STEREOTYPICAL RHETORIC IS HURTING PPL. So kydz here's what you can do. Each of you with a score to seattle can take your email Write jon a big ole letter gettin your anger out in shit...Then look at the letter if you want to send it to jon then send it (privately mind you) and if you decide then it's not worth it..save it. After you either send or save put the bugger on ignore. Hopefully this letter you write wil give you a peace ..like spreadin ashes or sumtin. Now if you do this though...you have to do it in PRIVATE thats all I ask. Even if you want to respond to this letter, respond to me in PRIVATE..can ya do that fer me please? Also maing, I am one of those ppl who only know enuff about computers to manage...Filters would mean that I have to learn something more :P O yea i thinks it's funny that i came home to find a post about deaf ppl at a rave when i just came home from Faith where i saw a group of boys dancing and conversing in sign language...strange beans. Nuku Nuku over n out... A big surprise if someone can tell me where this quote comes from; The sky is blue and all the leaves are green My heart is full like a bake po-ta-tah I think that I can really trully say that its a grand spo-doinkle day At 04:13 AM 4/2/99 EST, you wrote: >Hey Tina, > Forward to your hearts content, but since this is a public >forum they can't do a thing. And even if my account was terminated, I'd just >be back on in a matter of minutes. And what the hell happened to freedom of >speech, so every time someone says something you don't agree with such as >talking about how many hits of E they did last night, it'll bother some >prissy bitch like yourself and wham Forward it! Off with his head. Anyway >I'm not going away :) > luv, > The cuddly Atheist > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 12:07:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11455 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 12:07:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 11331 invoked by uid 228); 2 Apr 1999 12:07:03 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 04:07:03 -0800 (PST) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org cc: Karina Powers Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar for 04.04.99 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings Fellow Family, This weekend is full of many great parties! I know that I will be at many of the parties.. Rememeber to turn your clocks back 1 hour on Sunday at 2am. That means you have one extra hour to party! Always follow your dreams..... got crypto? Karina ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== The SFR Calendar http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Thursday, April 1st - Dub Soundsessions Very Special guests .... Domestic & Imported DJs on Tap ... CultureLab Multimedia Video & A Waking Dream Blacklite visuals ... It's Lowkey, Come by and say Hi on your way to Eklektic or after the Saint Stupids Day Parade For some Deep & Freaky Downbeat Exotic Dub with a bit of D&B & Funk for flavour. 8pm-2am, 21+. $5 to strangers after 9. Kate O'Briens, 579 Howard, SF. Thursday, April 1st - Black Lung (Side project of David Thrussell of Snog and SOMA) (Pre-opening of the club) Attrition (Electronic Goth), Black Lung (Hard, Dark, Techno/ambientish), Cataract (The pigface of electronic/techno stuff. Black Lung on second. The Velvet Lounge). 9pm-, 21+, $8. The Black Lodge., 443 Broadway, SF. http://www.cyberden.com/blacklodge Thursday, April 1st - XTort Productions presents Trance-Fusion A total all out progressive trance/jungle/hypertechno experience Ryan M (SAC), Melissa (SAC), Glow (SF), Sascha23 (SAC, LIVE), DB (SAC, Live Jungle), more.... First 50 visitors receive FREE mixtapes, posters, cds and other promo stuff from wide known records labels. Directions: From I-80 East take Madison, turn right off the freeway, take madison down to Garfield and turn Left, and take Garfield up till Auburn, at that point it will be a parking lot to your right, behind the Billiards.....then you will find the club. Come prepared to dance. All ages. $7 before 11pm and $10 after. Alpha Zone, Sacramento. http://home.earthlink.net/~sascha23/index.html 916.334.6200 Friday, April 2nd - EARTH Ellen Ferrato, Mouse, KJ, Damon, Jeff. Every First Friday of the month EARTH bus $1. $15. $8 before 11, Free with non-U.S. passport.. 550 Barneveld. 415.705.0585. Friday, April 2nd - Yoga / Tai-Chi Posse presents Vitality CB, Moondog, Amir, Drrragonboy.. Chen style Tai-Chi w Patrick King, 10pm Ashtanga Yoga w Alice & Zoe ( dress warm) Dancing from 11pm til after hours with Break-beat, Goddess Jungle, & House. Purple Sound. Visual Alchemey ala Telnee Wallace & frinds. "B healthy" & bring information. Projections by Projection Alchemists-Video by tenley, digital imagery by wayne & dan, photography by ninka, kyle & hillary. Belly Dancing by Ultra Gypsies - Buto Performance by Tamara ---Experience - Interact - Get Grounded - Dance - Tasty Treats - Drumming - Dance Performance - Art - Projections - Altars - Music.. 9pm-3am, . 415.289.6611 Friday, April 2nd - Let's Stay Together Family Dj Dreamer (SF Bagok Tribe), Happy Kid's Marty & Ian (HK prod.), more t.b.a.. only 300 tix available * call for info. Chico. 916.506.6232 Friday, April 2nd - Good Vibe Tribe along with Henray Productions Present presents Pure Energy 4 Year Anniversary Tony (SF) , Jam.N.J (411/Modesto), Eric Thrasher (411/Modesto) , Kano (411/Modesto) , David Collins (Sacramento), Dean Kroh (Stockton), Omar (Merced), Elias (San Jose), DJ Bliss (Tracy) , Tease (Modesto) , Royalmix (Stockton) , DJ Rage (Stockton) . Along with 5 watt argon krypton multicolor laser with 3-D laser animation featuring a mind altering spectrum of light by Electric Laser Company. 15,000 watts of pure turbo bass that will stimulate your 8pm-2am, . $10 admission before 11pm, show up early so you don't miss out! . Modesto Centre Plaza, 10th & K St,, Modesto. (209)571-7446 (209)368-5462 Friday, April 2nd - ...your monthly turn-on...The RhythMethod Head shaking trance and techno night! Ethan (fnf), Alex, Zeel, Plateshifter. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Il Pirata, 16th St & Potrero, SF. http://www.bass-station.com/rm/ Friday, April 2nd - Feel Good Entertainment presents Feel Good Friday Carlos (SF House Collective), Eric Spire (Quest), Ghost & Frank Nitty (Ghostribe), Kevin Kind & Kwashi (Feel Good Family), Kid Loose & Tosh (DreamLand), DJ Profit (Transfusion), Paucus & Tripnotix (BeatDown), gEoff (Stargaze Family), Mad Merc (Liquid Mercury), Joe Lazon (Oldskool), Hak & Siphon (Urban Assault), SideBurn Slim (NVP), Andy W & Science (Viberation), Jeff Taisch (Lightseed), Shubert, Deepfog, B))merang, Triad, Mook, Ulrich, Sponge & *Star69*, with MC Ray Vonie, MC DUH. An Annual Good Friday intimate word of mouth-flyerless UG party with 3 rooms of Progressive, Trance, House, Jungle, Breakbeats, and Downtempo. Sound by Xtreme Audio & Alien Nation Crew, Visuals by I-Candy, Lasers by UV-99, Lighting and Effects by Stim-U-Lights, Positive Vibe by YOU !!!! Everyone that brings a can of food for the homeless is welcome. VIRGIN East Bay Location, Limited Capacity, NO Pre-Sales. $10 at the door with a presale tix stub from any previous Feel Good Party or $15 without. No Shady-Shit Allowed!!! Keepin' it simple and mellow and always real Good with Feel Good. 9pm-8am, . http://www.globalparty.com 415.263.0483 510.888.2358 408.881.0785 Saturday, April 3rd - Housepitality "Like we always do about this time" In the Attic:, Sraight from Ibiza, Spain Dj Sara (Club Zulu/Amnesia), Gouracandra (Urban Development), Dj Riddler? (Housepitality Resident), In the Insect Lounge:, 3 hour 2x4 mahs session!, J-Boogie vs. Wisdom (Beat Sauce KUSF 90.3 FM), Ivry & Aye-N (Splank). between mission & howard and 1st & 2nd. 78 Minna St, 78 Minna St. 415.273.5449 510.273.3493 Saturday, April 3rd - The Spring Gathering The LOVE room:, Tony, Jeno, DJ Josh, Onionz, Steve Loria, Huggy, Eric Spire. , The LIFE room:, Lucas, Stevie, J. Smith, Tom L-G, Marcus Mark, JP, Mes, The PAVILION, Tim Love-Lee, Mr. Scruff, Joe Rice, Jon Santos, Noel, UFO. Live: Speakers: Denis Peron, Malachy O'Brien, Chris Conrad. 415.905.8888 Saturday, April 3rd - Blue Room blue room welcomes more friends for their first time U.S. appearances from Germany & the UK Planet B.E.N. ( Flying Rhino UK), Adam Ohana (BlueRoom/Ceiba Rec. SF), KJ (Telementry/Hu Nab Ku SF), Juglists: Mike B, UFO(Phunkateck), Rinse(Compound Records/B.A.S.S. Kru), Anon (Blue Room SF), Downtempogroovers:, P.B.S.(GabeReal, No Battles, Mateo, Buna), Jen Eye(BlueRoom SF) , Daniel (CCC), Surreal (Blue Room SF). Live: Organic Noise ( TIP Records Ger.), Mindfeild ( Phantasm Rec. UK). 10pm-7am , 21+, $15. 550 Barneveld, SF. 1.888.682.7666 Saturday, April 3rd - ESCAPE FROM SAN FRANCISCO DJs will be spinning in three differently themed rooms., Keith O'Reilly, Ireland, Phonic the Tape Worm, San Diego, DJ Tim, Santa Cruz, Phat Pat, London, Melanie, San Francisco. Boat Party - Three Floors - Departs at 7pm Boasting three floors and a selection of both American and European DJs, ESCAPE FROM SAN FRANCISCO looks set to be one of the main highlights of the Easter Holidays. Call for Tickets and more information. 415-339-8784. Email Saturday, April 3rd - Sister: Spring Break House & Techno room, The Baroness (Sunburn), Ellen Ferrato, Dj Dazy (Los Angeles), Forest Green (Technowest/Cloud Factory), Jungle/Hip-hop room:, siren (Sister/The Bassment), XJS (Sister) , DJ Steph (vinyle Exchange/Brick), Polywog. For more info, check out our website: Xanthoria.com 10PM-2AM, 21+. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St @ Masonic, SF. 415.255.4333 Saturday, April 3rd - Children Of The Sun - 1 Year Anniversary A Journey Through The Underground Mr Annand (Planet9/LA), Greg Sandler, Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), Logik (NBC), andyw (Viberation), Thomas Trouble (Trance & Jungle). Free Fruit, Lemonade, Kandy. Limited to 350 persons. We Love You All - Spread The Warmth pre-sale tickets are strongly advised.. 415.835.3144 Sunday, April 4th - Blankface presents CHEMISTRY DJ Sara (Ibiza, Spain), Gianni (Release, Harmonics), Harry Who? (Solid Grooves), Rick Preston (Glasgow Underground), Eversoul (Blankface), Girl Friday (Blankface, (Uniting Souls), Moda- live set (Trancefusion), Dfunkt (Beats Brigade), Agnes B. (Lush), Frankie T. (Top Shelf), Doctor Bubble (Blankface), Keith Edwards, Skyscraper (Solid Grooves, Blankface), plus special guest djs.. Three rooms. 21+. $10 cover (free before 5pm). Club Ecco, 87 N. San Pedro, San Jose. 408.793.0328 Sunday, April 4th - Black Lung (Side project of David Thrussell of Snog and SOMA) Black Lung. Longer show. Record release party for Xorcist's new release NOMAD (Dark ambient/soundtracky stuff). Link to RealAudio file of Black Lung 21+, $6. The Black Lodge, 443 Broadway, SF. http://www.cyberden.com/blacklodge Thursday, April 8th - Harmonics presents DISCOVERY Room 1 -techouseandtranceprogressive , Erik Brown (Rebirth, Magik), Urn (Harmonics, Sparkle) & Logik (NBC, Sparkle) 2x4, Ryan Wilber (NBC, Sparkle) & Jay Walker (NBC, Sparkle) 2x4, Mars & Mystere (F-8 sf) on 2x4, Room 2 -downbeatjumpupjungleandbass, R2 Witco(NBC, Sparkle), Russell G. (Harmony, NBC, Sparkle), J-Bot (special downbeat set) (Harmony, Harmonics), Room 3 -justgoodhousemusicforhouseheads, Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics), More TBA . . . ... 21 to drink, two full bars. 3 rooms of thundering 20,000 watt sound. 9pm-4am, 18+, $5. 120 Fifth St, Santa Rosa,. 707.571.8747 Thursday, April 8th - Existential Sounds and Legion of Funk presents Salivate Residents: Legion of Funk (Jason Henry, Le`Le`, and Dave Chapman). Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno email: salivatethurs@hotmail.com (2nd and 4th Thursday of every month). free before 10pm. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF . 415.626.2626 Friday, April 9th - WICKED Markie, Jeno, Thomas, Garth. 11pm-7am, 21+, $15. 177 Townsend, SF. Saturday, April 10th - NXN Productions presents Amazon Jungle Patio-, PRESHA (PBS, Compound Records, SF), STOMPA (PBS, IN THA MIX, Sac.), TURTLE (Mixology, Threshold Vibe, Santa Rosa), MANIC ONE (Chico), MANTIS (Barleycorn Crew, Chico), BAD ROK (SF), Mushroom-, TYSON HOWELL (420 kidz, Nodel Records, Chicago), PAUCUS (420 kidz, Sun Daze, SF), FLASH (Sac.), WEDGE (Chico), SONAR (Chico), JON ECON (Paradise). THE BRICKWORKS CHICO CA. 9pm-6am, All ages, $12. TICKETS $ 6.00 with NXN Laminates. $10.00 Presale @Neo Retro tro 112 w 2nd st. Chico. Chico. 530.893.2005 Saturday, April 10th - Vertigo Free Daytime Outdoor Positive P and B-Love from Open, Mind and J-Dog from Stir-Fri-Day, Jungle seshinz from, Gabe Real, Push, Mike Bee. With a little help from Mama Nature, the summer season gets an early kickoff with our own style of a California tradition. Very proudly representing SF Drum N Bass, Vertigo returns to it's roots of dope beats, tasty eats and sandy feet. May we all have a lovely summer! What better way to kick it off? Details on the Vertigo infoline. Remember: R E S P E C T! Email Noon-???, . 415.339.8688 Saturday, April 10th - B.A.S.S. Kru, GARNET, Sugar Shack Unltd. presents AUDIO IMPACT ....a night of serious jungle bizness... PHANTOM 45 (Chicago), FURY (Denver), FLUX + RINSE, STAR EYES, ZACHARIA (Seattle), MC JAMALSKI (NYC). http://www.garnetevents.com 415.332.5800x247 415.436.0735 Saturday, April 10th - Trance & Jungle Factory presents ********Tickle 3********* (The Big One!!!) Hope your dancing batteries are charged Thomas Trouble (Trance & Jungle Factory, Skills, Vorg/SF), Demigod (System Records/LA/ID&T), Dutch (InnerEye/SF), Greg Sandler (Harmonics), Mystre (F8/SF), Mars (F8/SF), DJ Buddy (Las Vegas), Dyloot (Skills), Tom Slik (Trance & Jungle Factory/Skills), Dj D (T & J Factory/SF), Joaqman (SF), Dj Praxxis (SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Moshe (Pangea), DJ Praxis, JOAQMan (T & j Factory). More to be announced. 415.248.2669 Saturday, April 10th - Lambda Nu presents The Electronic Sampler From Southern California: , Kit, Warhol, Claude, Koskela, Uncle Noah, From the Bay Area, Daniel Joseph, Hannibal Selecta, Hi Bias, Delinquent, Jamie James. Live: Jekyll and Hyde. Sound by Catapult Productions. Free, donations accepted. Outdoor, lake- side event in the South Bay. 2:30pm-8:00pm, Free. south bay. http://www.superbean.com 650.286.7599 Friday, April 16th - Conscious Session (New Moon) All Nite Session in SoMa... Jeno (Wicked), Galen (Pacific), DJ Josh (Gathering), M3 (Green Gorilla Lounge), Adnan (SF), Fabulizz (Progress). 415.273.5599 Friday, April 16th - XPOSUR presents FUTURA ORBIt (get on it) , SID LOVE(get on it) , LOUIS DETOUR (soundstation records/matrix/L.A.) , JUAN C. (XPOSUR/LOS ANGELES) , ARIS DINAMIK (XPOSUR/SOUNDSTATION RECORDS/L.A.) , OSO BIG (SOUNDSTATION RECORDS/L.A.) , BRIAN MATRIX & JOHNNY GROOVE (CD RELEASE PARTY"LET THE BASS BE LOUDER" tuff records). all night-All ages, $7. 805.637.6273 805.863.9807 800.971.7896 Friday, April 16th - Megahertz presents 66MHz Elias Smith, Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx. Lasers by UV99, Visuals by Multimedia Meltdown. 250 People Limited Capacity. Pre-sale only. $15 at F-8, T&J Factory, on-line: http://www.sfrecords.com. http://www.mhz.nu/66MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, April 17th - Housepitality "Like we always do about this time" - A Special Birthday Celebration In the Attic:, Solar (Pacific, Sunset), Dj Laron (Pyschofunkodiscodelic), Sean Murray (Static, Renegade Sound), Vocals by: Rashida Malika, In the Insect Lounge:, CO3 KREW (Gainsville Floriday, Moon Shoe Rec.), Dj Rasa & Dj Alexis, MC 3DTEA, Tik Tak (Ruffneck Reality). between mission & howard and 1st & 2nd. ID required. 9pm-2am, . free b4 10pm. Rico's Loft, 78 Minna St, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.3493 Saturday, April 17th - Private Journey Dimentional Transfer 6 Year Anniversary!!! Jordan (Fresno) , Gavin Hardkiss (SF) , Abstract Beat Collective (Fresno) . Live: Hawke (SF) . 559.262.8100 Saturday, April 17th - Native Vision Productions presents Free Event brings you a free party to give back all of the M.A.D. LOVE you have given us SAHID (GERMANY), MARCELLUS (SF), MARKISS ANTHONY (SF), ROBBIE HARDKISS (SF. Live: PA T.B.A. . FOR MORE INFO CALL 12NOON-SUNSET , Free. 415.281.0777 Saturday, April 17th - April 18th - Treestock To be announced.. Treestock is a series of parities to replant trees in clearcut and burnt forest areas. Hundreds of trees will be planted in the shape of the World's Largest Peace Sign. The concept is similar to Burning Man, except we will be healing our planet. Saturday, April 17th - *HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL* THE TECH HOUSE TULIPS , Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recording artist, Los Angeles) , Angel Alanis (Missile Records UK, 4 Track Records, Contaminated, from Chicago) , Greg Sandler (Harmony/ Harmonics) , Dutch (Inner Eye/ Area 51), LI (Harmony/ Viberation) , MAC (Harmony/ Harmonics), THE DRUM N' DAISIES, Protolab (Live performance, SF), RE: (Live performance, Sacramento), Science (Harmony/ Viberation) , Russel G (Harmony/ Harmonics), Cimino (Harmony), THE DOWNBEAT DAFFODILS, Tha Roman (Yougoodmissy, LA) , Andy W (Live performance), J-Bot (Live performance), Jahsh (Harmony), B))merang . Presale tickets are available for $20 at the following locations: (There will be more tickets at the door). Harmonics - Santa Rosa, F-8 - SF, Housewares - SF, Daddy's - Berk, T&J Factory - Berk, Solid Grooves - San Jose, In The Mix - Sac. We encourage the celebration of your individuality at this event, by asking you to wear your most festive, funky, colorful clothing in order to create a field of beautiful wild flowers!!! http://www.harmonyproductions.com 408.486.9591 415.289.6788 Thursday, April 22nd - Funky Tekno Tribe in association with Therapy presents Foreplay ~tek-House Resident~ Jasonian (Plush, FTT, Kindness). 9pm-2pm, 21+. Hi-Fi, with all new sound!, Lombard@Fillmore, SF. http://www.funkytekno.com Thursday, April 22nd - Existential Sounds and Legion of Funk presents Salivate Music to make your mouth water TBA. Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno Email (2nd and 4th Thursday of every month). Free before 10pm. 9:00pm -2am, 21+, $3. Il Pirata , 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 Friday, April 23rd - S.P.A.Z. and S.P.A.C.E. presents Manifest Eris harnessing the power of chaos! dj Flux (B.A.S.S. kru), Arachne Konsept w/MC Resista, Cthuluhoop, more dj's TBA, Last Minute Midnight Cirkus vs. Fireflies. all night tekno-drum and bass-hardtek-speedbass-?? underground East Bay warehouse dusk-dawn, All ages, $5. http://www.hyperreal.org/~spaz 1.800.486.6862 415.281.8407 Friday, April 23rd - FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS presents DIGITAL DREAMS ROOM ONE, CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE ,LA, TAJ (SF), SIMON APEX (SSU), DJ ROCKIT (SAC), STILLWIND (SF), DRE (SAC), B-SIDE (SAC), STOMPA, (SAC), RIF (SAC), ROOM TWO - HARMONY SHOWCASE, GREG SANDLER, ERIK BROWN, ANDY W, LEE, ETHAN, LOGIK, J.BOT, URN, MAC. MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED. PRE-SALE TICKETS (LIMITED) $15.00, $20.00 @ THE DOOR ON THE NIGHT OF THE EVENT. AVAILABLE @ THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS DIMPLE RECORDS, SAC (916) 781-2800, (916) 983-2600, (916) 925-2600 IMAGINE MUSIC, SAC (916) 971-1188 SUBSONIC UNDERGROUND (OPENED MARCH 2),SAC (916) 441-2775 SOLID GROOVES , SAN JOSE (408) 999-2059 HOUSE WARES, SF (415) 252-1440 F-8, SF (415) 221-4142 DADDY'S RECORDS , BERKLEY (510) 665-1653 TRANCE & JUNGLE FACTORY, BERKLEY (510) 704-9876 HARMONICS, SANTA ROSA ((707) 571-8747 ROCK ON, FAIRFIELD (707) 571-8747 MOTION MUSIC, MODESTO (209) 577-6965 P.S JUNE 5, 1999 FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS BASS INVADERS II, MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED. 916.484.5700 800.204.3986 Friday, April 23rd - Lightseed Collective presents Lightseed Family Gathering More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Friday, April 23rd - Squeeze Adnan , Ray , Nathan . In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12am -4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. Friday, April 23rd - 2C-Beats presents Housesubversion Much more TBA. A 2-floor all-night house party. Indoor/Outdoor East Bay Location. Saturday, April 24th - Uniting Souls presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of SF's underground Special guests: E.T.I. (Oboro Records), Daum (Freaky Chakra), Jason Henry (Uniting Souls/Legion of Funk), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls/Chemistry).. Join us on the dancefloor for one incredible night of music! Between 3rd & 4th off Townsend. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. 330 Ritch, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, April 24th - Phunky Phonography Productions presents >>))*All Play Together*((<< Spesh (Looq Records), Mystre (F8), Mars (F8), Dutch (Inner Eye), Dyloot (Skills, MHz, HK), Tom Slik (Skills, T&J Factory), Tracer, Radley Marx (MHz, Elemental), Telene (Phunky Phonography), nman (Biofonik, Silverpearl), Quickstep& Jair (PhunkyPhonography), Majere (Phunky Phonography). Due to the unfortunate closing of Maritime Hall we were forced to downscale the number of DJs and people we can have at our new location. We appologize to the DJs and the ravers who wanted to see them. Buy your presale tickets as soon as possible for this small event. Beautiful location in East Bay that is rarely used. Have a fun, safe, sunny spring break! http://www2.ucsc.edu/~jarman 415.289.6553 Saturday, April 24th - cybertropic comm./5 families presents dive Urgency: the TRANCE affliction trance-Inducers, KEITH E. (SOLID GROOVES), Skyscraper (SO. BAY TRANCE CO-OP), DIVERSION (V.O.R.G), gEoff ;-) (Stargaze Family), Micron (Viberation), B))MERANG FIDGET, ERIC SPIRE (QUEST/SILVER PEARL RECORDS), MACADIO (First Light), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance & Jungle Factory), Dr. Bubble (BLANKFACE), dj D (TRANCE & JUNGLE FACTORY), Joaqman (5 FAMILIES), JD (SYNCOPATED/L.A.). ALL AGES**FREE FRUIT**FREE JUICE**FREE SOFT DRINKS. CAN YOU DIG IT??? 21+. $10 PRE-SALE . 510.330.1101 415.339.8735 Saturday, April 24th - The Unity Vibe Tribe asks you to ask yourself, are we ALLONE DJ STEW-XMIX- FLORDIA, JERRY BONAM-SPUNDAE, DJ ROMAN-SNR-PRODUCTIONS-SEATTLE, JAZZ-E, MODA, N8-UNITY VIBE, SAHID-BERLIN, GERMANY, TROY ROBERTS-SEATTLE, VERTIGO, LSDJ-UNITY VIBE, ERIC MICHAEL-UNITY VIBE, JOSHUA JACOB, JOEY-HOUSE NATION. THIS WILL BE A PLACE CREATED BY THE UNITY VIBE TRIBE. WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL GENERATIONS CAN GATHER IN PEACEFUL UNITY TO CELEBRATE THE REVIVAL OF THE OLD SCHOOL POSITIVE DANCE VIBE THAT HAS KEPT OUR UNDERGROUND SCENE ALIVE. LIGHTING BY STIMULIGHTINGS-UV99-X-TREME 9pm-7am, . 650.361.0950 408.271.6900 Saturday, April 24th - Vertigo Backatcha one more time TBA. New locale, droppin' new science. Monthly. Local. D+B. Get your cigarette holders out and your swerve on. Details to come. Friday, April 30th - Nocturnal Productions presents XOX RETURNS THREE YEAR ANNIVERSERARY TBA. A secure central bay area location more tba next week Friday, April 30th - V.O.R.G. Productions presents ***HI!*** (VORG pre-party) 2 ROOMS FILLED WITH, JERRY BONHAM (Spundae), MARS (Frequency 8), MYSTRE (Frequency 8), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory,VORG), JUSTIN HALE (Simply Cosmic), RYAN WILBER (NBCHarmonics,VORG), ERIK BROWN (RebirthHarmonics), DJ D (Trance and Jungle Factory, VORG), ATOMIC DJ (VORG, BASS Records), ALIAS (Question Mark Productions), SUPREME-C (VORG). $12. 415.750.3100 Friday, April 30th - The Colorblind Collective and Theatre Now! presents Honey AndyW , Micron, Hak, Siphon, Meadow, Jeph, Mike Wilson, NMan, Mark Clark, Joaqman, Mook . ............. More TBA Monterey Bay Location Free Fruit-Water, Free Chai Brought to you by Nub Chai. Even though this is a benefit for Theatre Now!, Tix are going to be be inexpensive so we can all spend the evening together as a cohesive family bonded by the love of music! 9pm-7am, . 408.682.3500 Saturday, May 1st - Unit-E Tribe presents ENERGIZE randell (unit-e tribe / sac), wayne (unit-e tribe / field junkies), rick preston (glasgow underground rec/ san jose), tony (the gathering / moody rec / sf), sol (togetha / sac). 10pm-. sacramento. 916.810.4879 Saturday, May 1st - Radio-V.com presents May Day is Jay Day! Tom (Koinonea), Rob Rayle (Sacred Dance Society, Koinonea) , Tim (CCC). Join the Dance For Pot Party at the Million Marijuana March and Rally! Featuring: speakers, exhibits, live music, pot song-a-thon, Dance for Pot Party and the Pot Pride Parade at 4:20pm. Fun for all! Come out to San Francisco and dance for pot! Email High noon-5pm, . Civic Center Plaza, SF. http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm 415.971.3573 Saturday, May 1st - Ghostribe presents Acid Breaks #3: The Ghostribe 5 Year Anniversary Party TBA. DJ Lineup with more info coming soon. http://www.ghostribe.com Saturday, May 1st - 420 Kidz presents Vibe Creation 2 Traxx (Chicago Soul Foundation), Justin Long (Chicago I.H.R.), Tyson Howell (Chicago 420 Kidz), Mike Dreben (Toronto Sonic Mind Record Live PA), Guido (L.A. Biohazard), Melanie (S.F. House Collective), Paucus (S.F 420 Kidz), Dj Alert (Iowa City Hoodlums U.S.A.), Mars vs. Mystre (S.F. F-8), Dyloot (S.F. skills), Happy Kid Marty vs. Happy Kid Ian (S.F. Happy Kids), Red Eyes (Chicago 420 Kidz) vs. Jeff Z (S.F. 420 Kidz), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Musik, SF/LA). 510.466.5695 415.364.1665 Saturday, May 1st - climaXXX productions presents Thunderdome Bryan Lee (Global Energy Musik, SF/LA), Dj Eyal (Global Energy Musik, LA), Simon Apex (Alpha Magic Recordings, UK) VS. DJ Nimh (Happy4Beats, Phoenix, AZ), Happy Kid Ian (Happy Kids), Dj 725 (Kuang Mark, XI), Dj climaXXX (climaXXX productions), Nebula (climaXXX productions), DJ ansi (Rash, Redemption), CRACKAJAK N' Skye (climaXXX productions), DJ D (Trance and Jungle Factory). Free water, 2 room East Bay location with outdoor chill space. Stay tuned for more info.... Bringin' it back to the underground-a Trance / HappyHardcore / Jungle happening. Stay tuned for more info. $12. $10 presales available soon.. east bay. 510.726.1303 Sunday, May 2nd - Uniting Souls presents Sunshine Daydream... a daytime gathering "And as we let our own light shine...our presence automatically liberates others." - Nelson Mandela. TBA, 510.273.2493, Main Room: Special 4-hr set by Onionz and Joeski (NYC/Chocolate Factory), John Howard, Mark Farina (Om Records), Moses (SoundTextures), DJ Riddler (Housepitality), Adnan (Squeeze/Blue Room Nikita), Jungle Room: Arc Angel Gabe Real (PBS/Future Breaks crew), Abstract (Phunckateck), , Star Eyes (B.A.S.S. Kru), Tik-Tak (Ruffneck Reality), Miss E (Eklektic/Future Breaks FM 90.3), MC's Angel and Jamalski. Visuals by Spectrumega Media (L.A.). .2pm-2am, 21+, $15. $10 before 4 pm. 715 Harrison, SF. 415.273.5449 Wednesday, May 5th - FABULOUS FREAKY Art Show Opening A reception to meet the artists Alex Clausen and Sherry Koyama DJ Optimist spinning drum n bass.. In the Art Building at the UC Davis. Email 6pm-9pm, Free. Basement Gallery. 530.297.6163 Friday, May 7th - urban_assault & KSCU presents RUN TINGS southbay junglism strong in 99 rinse (bass kru, compund records), hak (urban_assault, solid grooves), sifu (thermal recordings), siphon (urban_assault), may tag (kscu), mc jamalski (ruffneck alliance, ny). limited to 300 headz/ all ages/ presale tickets @ solid grooves early april. http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ 408.882.5064 Saturday, May 8th - Skills presents a free party in Golden Gate Park Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars, Mystre, 510.869.4601. all day, music from 1pm-6pm, free. http://www.elemental.nu/skills 415.437.4460 Saturday, May 8th - Forward Motion Productions presents SPREAD THE WORD A small family gathering with your DJs Dutch, Josh Shwab, Kwashi, Miah, The Riddler, Micron, Joe-Joe, Ric V, Jeff Taisch, Vince, , Juggernaut(live PA), plus special guests. space limited to 300 people. Leave message on voice mail for carpooling information 5pm-8am, . $5 presale tix @ Daddys(berk), In tha Mix(sac), and online at sfrecords.com . http://www.sfrecords.com/spread 415.364.1407 Saturday, May 8th - ***VORG*** 3 ROOMS FILLED WITH:, JOHN KELLY (Funky Desert Breaks * Moonshine Records LA), ASTRAL MATRIX (o.o.b.e. Music SF) , TROY ROBERTS (Global Phases Seattle) , MARS & MYSTRE (Frequency 8) , JUSTIN HALE (Simply Cosmic) , THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory * VORG), GREG SANDLER (Harmony * VORG), DYLOOT (Skills * MHZ * HK), TOM SLIK (T&J Factory * Skills), J-BOT (Harmonics), GIANNI (Spundae * Harmonics), ZORAN (VORG), DJ D (T&J Factory * VORG), RYAN WILBER (NBC * Harmonics * VORG), ERIK BROWN (NBC * Harmonics), ATOMIC DJ (VORG * BASS Records) , DIVERSION (VORG) , ARIEL-CYBANA (VORG) , MERLYN (VORG). Pre-sale @ Harmonics 707.571.8747, T&J Factory 510.704.9876, f-8 415.221.4142, Group 3 - BASS Records 510.796.3570, Solid Grooves 408.248.6399, Music CD World 650.938.7555, Mixology 707.526.1230 - MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE TBA CALL OUR 24HR INFO LINE $20. 415.750.3100 Saturday, May 8th - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL: 2nd Period Two hour three deck set by Detroit's DJ BONE, Donald Glaude, Dj Pat, Tony, Onionz, Dan Isaac, Simon, Jesse Brooks, Jason Jinx. Presale tix available @ Primal, BPM, Clear, Solid Grooves 415.436.0714 Sunday, May 9th - Pulse Main Room DJ's:, Blackstone, Ellen, Front Room DJ's:, Trouble, Bud Chism, Chip McClure. A gay tribal fest with hot go-go boys and club kid dancers. A Primal Groove party! For more information, please e-mail: primalgrve@aol.com 3pm -11pm, . 2 guests for the price of 1 ($12/per couple) b/w 3 pm - 4:30 pm w/ flyer. $12 cover after 4:30. 1015 Folsom, SF. Saturday, May 15th - CloudFactory Fashion Show. Keep your ears to the underground for more information..... This is the official date for the Cloudfactory Design Collective Fashion Show. The CFDC is throwing a fabulous multimedia extravaganza, intended to showcase the formidable breadth and depth of talent that lies within the Cloudfactory Collective. The fashion show will be held from 7-9pm. The reception/party will be held from 9pm-3am. Fully permitted San Francisco locale. 7pm-3am, . Pre-sale tickets will soon be available. Saturday, May 15th - First Light Collective presents First Light one year anniversary DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By UV99. This is a permitted Event. Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In the mix. 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763 Saturday, May 22nd - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL: 2nd Period Dan, DJ BONE, Dj Pat, Charles Feelgood , Tony, Simon, Jesse Brooks, Onionz. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 22nd - Trance & Jungle Factory presents Trance and Jungle Factory 2 year anniversary TBA. Watching this space. Friday, May 28th - May 31st - Lightseed Collective presents Butterfly A Lightseed Campout in praise of Julia Butterfly Hill in honor of Luna More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Saturday, May 29th - NOMAD INTERACTIVE presents ORIGIN-MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND GATHERING. MORE TBA.. 415.675.5605 510.433.9933 408.278.5553 916.554.0554 Saturday, May 29th - Clockwork Eventz presents METROPOLIS 7 Underground dance districts of diversity METRODOME:, Donald Glaude, Terry Mullan, DJ Rktech, Hipp-E,, Jeno, Tony, The ELECTRIC KINGDOM:, Charlotte The Baroness, DJ Liquid, DJ Ghost, Miss Knight, J-Boogie, Deep in the GARNET KONKRETE JUNGLE:, R.A.W. w/ MC?, Rinse & Flux w/MC Jamalski, U.F.O., Aaron V., DJ Dose, The Infamous Highlanders, FUNKYTOWN: Funky Beat's 4 yr anniversary:, Simon, DJ Doubt, DJ Matthew, Paucus, David vs.Joey Mazzola on 4, Jasen C., SECTOR 2:, Jon Williams, DRC, Chris Jackson, St. John, J-Bot, Charly Fusion, DJ Xolotyl, The Comfort, Room:, Deepfrog, Boomerang, Triad, Reggae Lounge: come hang and feel da Irie vibes inside our reggae lounge. Prepare for the awakening!!! A night of bad ass talent, mixing through the most intense beats to date!!! A night of explosive performances, that will push the boundaries of the underground mentality!!! A night that will be out of control, filled with the amazement of an interactive multimedia extravaganza. LUMATECH lighting will be throwing down the fattest lighting show that nobody has ever seen before!! The Royal Rumble: mark wayne,jk sound,xtreme audio We will also be celebrating Funky Beats 4 year anniversary!!! HIEROGLYPHICS,THE PHARCYDE. Live p.a. Sound Of Light. 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Sunday, May 30th - EUROTIKA 3 Biohazard productions-L.A..(GABE &THEE-O), F-8-S.F.(MYSTRE), ANTHONY S(THE TRIBE), D!ZZ!(Fresno). . Modesto Centre Plaza,, Modesto. 209.236.6846 415.221.4142 Saturday, June 5th - goode tyme entertainment presents AMNESIA A mixture of house and Trance A killer line up tba. Saturday, June 5th - Goode Tyme Entertainment Presents presents Amnesia. TBA. In a secured central bay area location. 3 rooms with a mixture hard house, funky progressive house, and trance. Flyers to be released on April 5 1999. 10am-6pm, . Saturday, June 5th - E.T.A. presents Monument to Eternity A Hard Trance Rising Event Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer, Dyloot, Depth, DJ D. This is a limited capacity, pre-sale only event. For more information please call our voice mail. 415.364.1803 Saturday, June 5th - The Unity Vibe Tribe presents GENERATION X Dj line up soon to be posted..... For more imformation please call: 408.271.6900 650.361.0950 Friday, June 11st - VORG presents BREATHE - A very special party!!! More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, June 12nd - Silver Pearl Records presents QUEST Summer Solstice Guiding your Quest from dusk 'til dawn on 4 thumping sound systems with DJS: Jeno (Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum, LA), Barry Weaver (Funky Techno Tribe, Seattle), Astral Matrix (O.O.B.E. Music, SF), Jason Blakemore (Life Music, Aquarium, aka DJ Trance, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Donald Glaude (Funky Teckno Tribe, Seattle), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, Philadelphia), Rinse & Flux with MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru and Compound Records, SF), R.A.W. (Mictlan Recordings, LA), NMAN (Biofonik and Silver Pearl, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Incredible Ambient Chamber with:, B))merang and Triad, Many more to be announced.. As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available May 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8, San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com. http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, June 12nd - Skills invites all a smiling to A STARRY NIGHT presents ELEKTRO-TEKNO-DISKO-POPSIKLE - Summertime Flavors With very special guests from L.A., Thomas MIchael, Thee-O, Demigod, Plus all your favorite local DJ's -, Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley, Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer & Telene, Prophet, Happy Kid Marty & Happy Kid Ian.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Friday, June 18th - Counterpoint Productions presents Commence More TBA. Sacramento. 916.866.326 Saturday, June 19th - FREQUENCY 8 4 year Anniversary Celebration Summer Solstice Campout Weekend Stay Tuned In.. Saturday June 19th- Sunday 20th. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Special Secret Surprise Summer Solstice Celebration More information to follow. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Saturday, June 26th - The müvmental Collective presents Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Juan Atkins, Frankie Bones, Juan Atkins, SoulSlinger, DRC, Jeff Samuel, DJ Chaordic, DJ Dishboy, Sleepy C, Rinse & Flux w/ MC Jamalski, DJ Ghost, Smallz & 7UP. SF. Saturday, June 26th - Harmony More information TBA. Saturday, July -1th - idm tba... . http://www.elemental.nu/idm Sunday, July 3rd - July 4th - 8TH ANNUAL FREEDOM FESTIVAL Line-up T.B.A.. Flyers out soon. 415.905.8888 Friday, July 9th - children of the sun presents Sunshine Of Your Love a summertime celebration of love, life, and happiness... 415.835.3144 Saturday, July 10th - Forever Young Robbie Long vs. Devestate (Next Generation, UK) Happy Hardcore FIRST U.S APPEARANCE!!, SIMON APEX (Alpha Magic, UK) vs. DJ NIMH (Happy 4 Beats, Phoenix AZ), ANDY vs. B2B JOSH (Sac.), APOLLO SMILE (Forever Young, Sac.), DJ HERETIC (119 Crew, LA) vs. RIFF (Sac.) Jump up Jungle, DEMIGOD (Industrial Strength, LA) DUTCH (Happy Gabber), RON D. CORE (Freeclouds Mixinglab, LA) Terrorcore, IMIX (Navigator, Sac.) Live P.A Speed Garage, MOE (Sac.), RICKY RICARDO (Loolipop, Chico), JASON-WHO (Fuzze, Sac.), BLAKE (N.B.C), TANK (Sac.). All night, free fruit, free water, and free stuff for early birds. Please come with your open minds, smiles, and get ready to dance! *limited Presale at Subsonic Underground Record Store, Sac. 9pm-8am, $15. Sacramento. 916.603.2866 Saturday, July 10th - 6 in da mornin productions presents Ground Zero 4: Judgement Night - The Final Chapter (6AM 3 Year Anniversary) TBA. World Class dj lineup and live acts to be unveiled on Saturday, April 3rd 1999. Promoters and vendors please contact 6AM on the industry line (800) 683-4569. Except no imitations. 415.995.1940 Saturday, July 17th - TRANCE AND JUNGLE FACTORY presents Man in the Moon Reunited Thomas Trouble, Dj D, Eric Spire, Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Tom Slik. Please check back soon for a huge line-up. Capacity is limited 2000 people, so please purchase your pre-sale tickets early. 415.248.2669 Friday, July 23rd - Megahertz presents 80MHz Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/80MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, July 24th - @spire 2 years in the making... TBA. We're back... Tell a friend! More information coming soon! 415.273.5513 Saturday, July 31st - Mytical Mayhem Productions presents Serenity Doran (Rampant Records, Hook Recordings, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony & Harmonics, SF), Moshe (SF), MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru, SF), Gianni (Release, SF), Kevin Kind & Kwashi (FGE, SF), and many more to be announced.. Stay tuned for more information.... For information please call 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, July 31st - Full Circle Reunion - TechNique James Christian (NYC), Vicious Vic (NYC), Tony, Garth, Simon, DJ Matthew, with more T.B.A.. More info on the way! Sunday, August 1st - Existential Sounds presents... presents Birth...a celebration of Life. Garth (Wicked), Markie (Wicked), John Howard (Heavy Rotation), Chang (Simons, Gainesville, FL), Three (Hallucinations Records, Tampa, FL), Brian Busto (The Rubb, Tampa, FL), and more TBA. . An indoor/outdoor event featuring an art show. (between Potrero and Utah) Art show from 3PM-8PM. Music from 2PM-2AM. Tickets available May 31, 1999. Buses to the location: 33 Stanyan 22 Fillmore 9 San Bruno. email: avatarz@earthlink.net avatarz@earthlink.net or salivatethurs@hotmail.com Tickets available at Tweekin' Records, Housewares, Big Daddys (Berkley), and Primal Records (Berkley). Free before 4 pm, $8 in advance, $15 at the door. . IL Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415-626-2626. Saturday, August 7th - Native Vision Productions presents The Prophesee DJ LINE UP & MORE INFO TO FOLLOW IN JUNE . We Invite you to celebrate the remembrance of the Prophecy that made the world what it is today. The Prophecy goes like this: In the beginning we sat in a circle to share and remand as one with each other and Mother Earth, then the creator came down and split us up in to the red, white, yellow, and black we were all to accomplish a certain number of things then come back into the circle and share. We need to remember the root of it all. So we the people for the Earth can live. http://www.globalparty.com/nvp/ 415.281.0777 Friday, August 13rd - 3horsemen Productions presents DAISY HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAISY! Thomas Trouble, D.J. D, more T.B.A.. A party with real heart. It's Daisy's birthday and she wants to see all those happy party friends of hers there. Join us in S.F. for a Friday the 13th to remember. Party is limited to 600 pre-sale tickets only. Get your $15 pre-sales at: Harmonics(Santa Rosa), Frequency 8(San Francisco),T&J Factory(Berkeley) http://www.3horsemen.com 415.431.8632 Friday, August 13rd - August 15th - Camp Harmony TBA. All weekend camping celebration!!! More information TBA. Saturday, August 14th - CLOCKWORK EVENTZ presents STARZ TBA.. Live: Long Beach Dub All-Stars.. CLOCKWORK EVENTZ invites you to come dance under the... STARZ Superstar talent to be announced!!! This will be held at a wonderful outdoor location. Much more info in the future....... 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Saturday, August 21st - FREQUENCY 8 Cybertrance Communication Stay Tuned In.. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Saturday, August 27th - August 28th - VORG presents A SPECIAL LAKESIDE CAMPOUT with amazing European live-performers. More TBA. 415.750.3100 Sunday, September 4th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Megga-Buzz 4-U The 4th Annual Labor Day 3-Day Holiday Weekend PLURity Vibe-Fest! The Premier of local DJ Showcase. Buzz Line Birthday party celebration event. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Saturday, September 11st - E.T.A. presents The Red Shift Info T.B.A.. Friday, September 17th - Megahertz presents 100MHz Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith, Dyloot, Special Guests.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/100MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, September 18th - ASR 2 Year Anniversary Three room's of superb DJ's TBA..... This event will be in celebration of ASR's two year anniversary, therefore ASR will go back to it's roots, the Monterey Bay. Saturday, September 18th - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, September 25th - Harmony Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration!!! TBA. More Information TBA Saturday, October 2nd - Skills presents ??? Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley Marx, Thomas Trouble, Happy Kids Marty & Ian. more TBA. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, November 6th - Harmony TBA. More information TBA. Saturday, November 13rd - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest 2 Year Anniversary TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, November 27th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The Spirit of Giving The 3rd Annual Thanksgiving 4-day Holiday Weekend Plurity Vibe-fest Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/jungle/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Friday EARTH - Ellen Ferrato, Mouse, KJ, Damon, Jeff. Every First Friday of the month EARTH bus $1. $15. $8 before 11, Free with non-U.S. passport. . 550 Barneveld. 415.705.0585. LIFE - Life SUCKS, and then theres Friday! w/DJ Mark Farina. Cross streeet: 4th. VIP Lounge and Oyster Bar. 10pm-, 21+, $10. Big Heart City, 836 Mission. Empire - DJ Party Ben. Empire, SF's own big-beat boutique At the corner of Third. Dj Party Ben, best known for his party reports on subsonic, will spin the sounds of Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, Roni Size Reprazent, Prodigy and more. empire will also occasionally feature guest appearances from world renowned DJs. 9pm-2am., . Manhattan Lounge, 699 Market Street, SF. Martini Meltdown - Break the ice over a free Zone Vodka cocktail; chill out to the acid jazz and funk of the Spencer Murray Group; cool down in the galleries with some Impressionists in Winter. Martini Meltdown is co-sponsored by Zone Vodka, SF Station, Zebra Records, and Sunset Promotions. Across the street from SFMOMA. 5:30pm-7:30pm, $12. Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, 701 Mission Street at Third St.. 415.750.3624 Dance Spirit - Leslie Shill. every first and third Friday evenings in april. $10. Nautilus Health Club, 4th street, San Rafael. Nikita - house, techno w/DJs Simon (Resident), Jeno (Resident), Jerry Bonham (Resident), Kayar (Resident for the drum & bassment), Kaos (Resident for the drum & bassment), Flux (Resident for the drum & bassment), Rinse (Resident for the drum & bassment). Broadcast live on the net at www.1015.com. Downstairs, Sticks and Stones- provacateurs of Bass present Drum + Bass with Resident Dj Kayar 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. Free before 10:30 PM. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.com 415.267.0568 [4.2 - Dimitri (Paris)] RoaM - an evening of sophisticated deep house... w/DJs Chad Mitchell, JP Soul, Dan Smith. 21+, Free. Liquid, 2925 16th St, SF. 415.289.6833 Stir-Fri-Day - happy-hour eclectic grooves served up by resident beat chefs w/DJs Jason Fluid, Shaolin, Maneesh the Twister, Plus weekly guests. 5pm-9pm, 21+. Minna St Gallery, 111 Minna St, SF. 0 415.974.1719 Bohemian Lounge - Intergalactic Funk Collages w/DJs Toph2000, rotating guests Pollywog, Manny Rosa, Charlotte the Baroness, Consuelo (Kevin). 9ish-2am, 21+, Free. the gorgeously restored McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @ 19th, SF. 415.332.5800x211 (redwine) Melon - house w/DJs Dano, JZ, guests. First Friday of each month in the blue Room @ Nikita. 11pm-5am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.redmelon.com 415.561.9215 Angel - house, tribal house, funk, modern rock, trance, progressive house, deep house, house, trip hob, soul, beats w/DJs Jerry Bonham (SF), Dr. Bubble, Thayton, Johnny, Gianni (SF), Scott DC (SF), Steve Husted, Harry Who?, Rick Preston, Guests from the bay area and around the world. Doors Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 6 Artistic Rooms featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Soul Classics, beats Modern Rock, Trance, Progressive House, deep House and House. 21+, $10. No Cover before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0328 The Davis Family Happy Hour - Local Dj Superstars, The Davis-get-down-funky-like-that-crew. Your favorite brews on tap. 3pm-7pm, 18+, Free. UCD Silo Pub, Hutchinson Drive, Davis. http://www.geocities.com/Hotsprings/Falls/2500 Launch - It'll give sump'din foer da yung;unz to doc. w/DJs Resident Djs:, BombRocker (Pure Tryb, WC), Phil-e-Cheez (Walnut Creek), Weekly guests. 18 & under (if you can pass for under 18). House, Trance, Breaks, Jungle. 7:30pm-11:00pm, 18+, Free. Walnut Creek Civic Center, Civic Park, Walnut Creek. Saturday Pablos Sugar Shack - Pablo's Resident DJs:, John Howard, Norman Stradley, Jellybear, Miguel Migs, Rasoul, Romanowski. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. http://www.pablos.com [4.3 - Garth, Simon] [4.10 - Ellen Ferrato, Miss Megan] [4.17 - Jellybear, Nobel] [4.24 - Alain de Corazon, Mauricio] Other Whirled - House, Techno w/DJs Nobel, Vince, Christine, Daniel, Henrik, guests. saturday morning 5:30am-3pm, 21+. the EndUp, 6th Street @ Harrison, SF. 415.208.7665 Release - House, techno, jungle, funk, trip hop, disco w/DJs Doc Martin (1st Saturday each month), Marques Wyatt (2nd Saturday), Deep Dish (3rd Saturday), Terence Toy, Julius Papp, Behrouz, Tom Thump, Ellen Ferrato, Norm, Thomas Roberts, BB Hayes, Jason Edwards, Anthony Scott, Jerry Ross, Eric Lacy, Atom, DJ D, Gianni, special guests, Martin, Bruce, DeMilo. 10pm-9am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.sfstation.com/clubs/release.htm 415.281.0823 [4.3 - Garth] [4.10 - Marques Wyatt] [4.17 - Deep Dish in the main room and David Alvarado in the VIP room] [5.1 - Garth in the main room] [5.8 - Marques Wyatt and Ricky Morrison] [5.15 - Deep Dish] [5.29 - Farley & Heller begin their Mixer Magazine Tour] [6.12 - Marques Wyatt and Erick Morrillo] [6.19 - Deep Dish] [6.26 - CJ McIntosh] La Belle Epoque - 21st Century Drum n' Space w/DJs Mike Bee, Wish FM, Sea, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Dragonfly - a shiny new club w/DJ guests bi-weekly. Grand Reopening on November 14th. 2nd and 4th Fridays. 9:30pm-4am, 21+. Manhatten Lounge, 699 Market @ 3rd Street, SF. 415.313.7450 Carry On - Underground house and garage music. w/DJ Mauricio Aviles. Cross Street: Howard. 10:30pm-4am, 21+, $8. Club Asia, 201 9th St., SF. Club Universe - Funk, House, High energy dance. w/DJ Special Guests and artists every week. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. free b4 11pm. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.289.6650 FreeStyle - House and Funk w/DJs Christopher (Resident), Weekly Guests. Hosted by Mizz Ana Maronic. 21+, $5. free before 11pm. 399 9th St., SF. PUSH - Advanced house pressure. w/DJs Mouse (Liquid), Matt Valenz (Loveworks), Chris Orr, Travis. Every Saturday @ Jessy Alley, between Market and Mission. 9pm-4am, 21+, $5. Six, 60 Sixth Street, SF. Plush - house, techno, trance, funk, trip hop, soul, beats, 70's w/DJs Resident Djs:, Thayton, Johnny, Julius Papp, Gianni (San Francisco), Scott DC (San Francisco), BBHayes, Guest from the bay area and around the world. Visuals by Jose G. Museo Contempo.Martini Bar on the Patio. Featuring the best Gin and Vodkas. Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. No cover before 9:30pm. 4 Dance Areas featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Sould Classics, beats, 70's House, Trance Progressive House and Deep House. 21+, $10. Free before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0238 Tricorder - downtempo, hiphop, electro, breakbeat w/ w/DJs DJs marlo, monkey, flint, special guests.. Teetotling our way through the classics you've never heard before. Located on 24th between Mission and Valencia. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday 9pm-2am, 21+, $1. the Attic, 24th Street, SF. http://www.shooby.com/tricorder Wicked Session One - drumnbass, ambient, hiphop w/DJs Sep (turntables), Stephen Kent (digeridoo), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Echo. "Wicked Session One" is the first in a series of upcoming nights in 1999 featuring acoustic and electronic musicians and DJS exploring the connection betwen dub, drum& bass, hip hop and ambient music. $6. Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, SF. Orbit - deep, funky, groovy house, techno and abstract beats for your feet w/DJs Phano, Be, d.jaymz, guests. full bar. 9:30pm-2:00am, 21+, Free. Cosmos, 2730 21st @ Bryant, SF. 415.282.9926 Flikker - house w/DJs Rotating residents, Jus' Joel, dj d-paul, lee., Plus special guests.. 9pm-2am, 21+. $3. 800 South Van Ness @ 19th, SF. Sunday Return of the B-Sides - Solomon. We're playing hiphop, funk, soul, and dancehall. Shattuck Bar and Grill, 2086 Allston @ shattuck, Berkeley. 510.845.7300 [4.7 - DJ Platurn] [4.14 - Dj Icewater] [4.21 - True Justice] [4.28 - Algebra] Spundae - House, Techno w/DJs Carlos, David Michael, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For 02.14.99 - 6 Year Anniversary Party! 5 elements giving you 11 decor by Ashley. 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.net 415.974.9389 Leopard Lounge - Acid Jazz, Funk, Soul, Pop & Live Bands. w/DJs Jerry Ross, guests. The Hi-Fi, 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 Pleasuredome - Funk, House w/DJs Neil Lewis, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Dub Mission - SF's only dub night. The best in dubs and roots every Sunday. w/DJs I, Maneesh the Twister, Vinnie, Sep (kusf/kpfa), J.Boogie ("Beatsauce"), Ludichris, other suprises. Contact 647 Valencia @ 17th, mission. http://www.geocities.com/~dub_mission/ 415.552.7788 [4.11 - DJ SEP and DJ I plus special guest violinist PISTOL PETE] [4.4 - MANEESH the TWISTER vs WASTEMASTER Soundclash] [4.18 - DJs SEP & VINNIE] [4.25 - DJs J.BOOGIE and LUDICHRIS] The Cafe - house w/DJs Mathew Baker, Jay-R. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF . 415.861.3846 Liquid Sundays - Beetroot, quest djs. 21+. Liquid, 2925-16th St @ S.Van Ness, SF. up on the down low - downtempo, dub, cocktail lounge w/DJs de nada, leath, el jefe, guests. 9p-2a, 21+, Free. 65 Post St, San Jose. Milk & Honey - acid jazz, house w/DJs Mei-Lwun (Soulstice), Andy Caldwell (Soulstice), Rotating Guests: Mark Farina (mushroom jazz), Toph-One (abstract science), Felix da Dog (black diamond). Call to get listed. 10pm-???, 21+, $5. free before 10pm. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. 415.607.2290 Triple Beam - drum n bass w/DJs Raw, Rinse + Flux. Cross Street: Harrison Call for more information 415.332.5800 ext. 247 10pm-4am, $10. Maritime Hall Bassment , 375 1st Street, SF. http://www.garnetevents.com 415.436.0735 415.332.5800 People's Groove - house, jungle w/DJs 2 rooms of house and jungle with resident dj's, Clover, Pause, Aladin, Weekly Guest Dj's. 21+. The Usual, 400 South First Street, San Jose. 408.274.7881 Cosmic Hands - drum n bass, techno, house w/DJs chris jackson, nada, leath, tomas, jaz, hak, toby, paul leath. . This is a free party which happens on the first sunday of every month. Begins 2.07.99 9pm-2am, Free. Waves, 65 Post St, SJ. Monday Movin on Up - It's a vibratory thang w/DJs marc anthony, kevin, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. Beat Box - drum'n'bass, jungle, downtempo w/DJ Val. 9:30pm-, 21+, Free. Dalva, 3121 16th St, SF. Noc Noc - Drum'n'bass, downtempo and electronica w/DJ Mohsen. every other Monday. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. 557 Haight St, SF. 415.861.5811 Density - 98% Concentrated Urban Beats saturated with Drum & Bass Deconstructions w/DJs Al Simmons, Noel, J Boogie, Aural B (Sharpshooter), guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. the Justice League, 628 Divisadero, SF. 415.440.0409 Monday Mood Lounge - Happy Hour Downtempo to Drum and Bass w/DJs Triadessa, guests. 4pm-, 21+, Free. 406 Clement St, SF. HouseBlends - a special brew of house w/DJs a special brew of house w/DJs, Mes, Bloom, Tune, Neil, Abdul, Conrad, Friends (Weekly Rotation). Free before 10pm. Spend Happy Hour with HouseBlends (7pm-10pm). 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lounge/6072/ 925.988.7447 415.273.1308 Tuesday PHUNCKTION - Drum & Bass in motion w/DJs Residents: , Noel, JUJU, plus special guest TBA. Every tues. begining April 5th, 1999 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. THE TOP, 424 Haight St, SF. http://www.sfdb.com/ 415.789.8000 x1147 Pleasure - Residents, B.B. Hayes, Mark Silva, Matt Mau, plus weekly guest djs.. Real house music for real house heads...come into San Jose and get that SF feel. 9:30pm-2am, 21+. Free before 10:30...5 bills after.. Agenda Lounge, 399 South First Street, San Jose. Pure - house w/DJs Brian Brandon, guests. 9pm-, 18+. The Rage, 1890 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.929.0232 Static - Techno, Drum & Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental.... w/DJs Dj Sifu (Resident), Joe Rice (Justice League Sound System), Tomas (Umoja), J-Bird (Sunset/Pacific), Bre Ad, Sutekh, Re Ach, Quantum 23, Tomas, Sifu, J-Bird, Safety, Scissors, Sean Murray, guests. Static offers musical alternatives to listeners and dancers who are tired of ravers, New Age missionaries and club culture, in general. Admission is $5 (21 and over, please). Come check out the two, newly fattened sound systems. 10pm-2am, $5. The Cat's Club, 1190 Folsom St, SF. http://www.belief-systems.com/static 510-496.3444 Spark - drum'n'bass, downtempo, jazzstep w/DJs Seven, Sol, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin, SF. 415.771.3547 [4.6 - Sage (Phunckatech)] [4.13 - Mikebee (La Belle Epoque)] [4.20 - Arc Angel Gabereal (Future Breaks)] [4.27 - Push] [5.4 - Tom Thump (Groove Merchant, Twice as Nice)] [5.11 - Siren (Bassment, XLR8R), Ava (Housewares)] Unity Grooves - speed garage, trance & breakbeat w/DJs RickRemixx, Imix, Damien. 10pm- Free. Mulligan's Irish Pub, 3600 Lake Tahoe Blvd, South Lake Tahoe. http://listen.to/unitygrooves 916.816.5315 Spin Cycle - music of all types w/DJ guests weekly. 7:30p-midnight, All ages. CSUMB's Black Box Cabaret. http://www.cloudfactory.org/upcoming.html 831.457.7726 Tuesday nights at the Agenda - guest djs. upstairs at the agenda 21+. $5.00 after 10:30. 399 south first street, San Jose. 2-Lip Tuesdays - all female dj's playing house and assorted electronica w/DJs Just Judy, a.n.d., guests. Every 2nd and 4th Tuesdays. the afterdark, 214 Lighthouse Ave. 1.877.981.0505 Keltic Meltdown - Teckstep, Jungle, House & Trance with w/DJs Clover (People's Groove), Weekly Guests. @ the corner of Snell Avenue. Open turntables for those with skillz, get there early to sign up for a spot. 8pm-12am, All ages, Free. The Java Spot, 1095899 Santa Theresa Blvd, SJ. 408.274.7881 Jive Samba - Josh Jones, Latin Jazz All Stars (Live), Chris (Electronic flavor with drum and bass), jazzy jungle. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. 21+, $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Core - drum & bass and beyond... w/DJs jefsta, cera, weekly guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Liquid, 2925 16th Street @ S. Van Ness, SF. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~mkello01/core.html 415.790.4974 Wednesday @mosphere - Josh (The Gathering, Conscious Session), Fabulizz (Progress, Silky, Conscious Session), Seven (Spark, Hi-Rise), Jason Greer (Spark), Andre. Cross Street:Fillmore. We mix up downtempo, drum-n-bass and house. Finally, good music in the Marina! Yuppies and scenesters unite! 21+, $3. Hi-Fi Lounge, 2125 Lombard. Sol (Spark) [16.95 -] [16.95 -] [16.95 -] DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544 [4.14 - John Howard] [4.21 - Solar ] [4.28 - Rob Doten] Come Unity - House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth, and Cosmic Jason (every other month). first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $8. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 Audio Alchemy - jazz, hip hop, drum & bass, latin, futuristic beats w/DJs Groove Merchant DJs, Tom Thump, Cool Chris. 7pm-, 21+. Liquid, 2925 16th St @ So.Van Ness, SF. qoöl - a pan-techno lounge w/DJs Spesh, Gil, Hyper D, top notch guests. Visuals by Hyperdelic.qoöl is now in it's 3rd year of celebrating dj culture at happy hour. each wednesday we gather to hear no less than 4 djs pump nothing but the qoöl est techno. in 1999, we hope to bring you more of the same awesome vibe, more superskilled spinners, more visual artistry, and more great tasting beer! lastly, qoöl will remain free in 1999 - w/ qoöl card 5pm-9pm, Free. 111 Minna St, SF. http://www.looq.com/qool Audible Colors - house, jungle, techno w/DJ guests weekly. 21+, $3. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. 415.522.2343 Seance - Its a spiritual thang w/DJs local guests weekly, DJs Martel, Nabiel, Franky. Tarot readers, belly dancers, henna tattoo artists and authentic egyptian tapestries. Séance is an ethereal alternative with belly dancers, Tarot Card Readers and Henna tattoo artists. For dinner reservations call 771-3547. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy @ Polk, SF. http://sfstation.com/clubs/seance.htm 415.281.0823 Rejuvenation - house, trance, jungle, speed garage w/DJs jeffro, juni, rob. 10-2am, 21+. Doc's Nightclub, 95 Prescott St on cannery row, Monterey. Faith - house w/DJs jeff blax, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. Agenda Cellar, 17 San Salvador St, San Jose. Manga - Jungle, Downtempo w/DJs Hak, Siphon, Tetsuo, BossOne. First and last Wed of the month. 21+, Free. Scruffy Murphy's, 187 Murphy Avenue, Sunnyvale. http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault 408.882.5064 Bo Jangles - House music in every way, shape and form... w/DJs Dennis (Resident), Kendra French (Resident). 9pm-2am, 18+, $1. Bo Jangles, 7042 Folsom Blvd, Sacramento. Wednesdays at Club Ecco - house, techno, trance w/DJs Danny (Resident), Ellen Ferrato, David Harness, Blackstone, Pete Avila. Wednesday is a fantastic gay club night at Club Ecco. All the great house hits hits in the San Pedro Room. Door s open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 5pm-, 21+, $5. No cover before 9:30. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.947.1667 Dubphonik - Mr. Brown. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Thursday Pitch - The underside of SF's techno/house music scene. Agressive, live musicians and dj's. w/DJs Crunch, YT, Dutch , Residents, Corey Black, Y.T., w/ special guests:, TUESday nites in March:, Freaky Chakra, Margorie & Stuart, DRC, big Nate, THURsday nites in April:, Cristina, Dutch, Ryme, Single Cell Orch., djCrunch.. ....Duck and weave.... Donation. CLUB SACRIFICE, 19th Street & South Van Ness, SF. Velvet Shop - house, jungle, hip hop, downtempo w/DJs M3, Mark Johns, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Waves, SJ. 408.235.1556 408.235.1556 Kit Kat - house. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. the End Up, 6th & Harrison, SF. The Cafe - house w/DJ Mathew Baker. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF. 415.861.3846 Passenger - excursions to global beats and rhythms 10p-2a, 21+, Free. the Skylark Lounge, 3089 16th St. @ Valencia, SF. Unfiltered Thursdays - Norman Stradley, Sherif, Jeff Layne, Josh Schwab, Conan, Matt Fort. opening October 22nd. 21+, $10. ladies free before 12:30.. 550 Barneveld, SF. 415.289.2001 Club Faith - Hip-Hop, House, Progressive. w/DJs Blackstone (Resident), Jay-R, Ruben Mancias (Resident), Weekly Guests. Boys/Girls, mostly bi/gay. If you have a closed mind this club will leave you behind! 9:30pm-3am, 18+, $7. Free with Flyer.. City Nights, 715 Harrison St., SF. Hi-Rise - The weekly thursday night house thing. w/DJs Seven (Resident), Sol (Resident), Peterbilt (Resident), Jin (Resident), Weekly Guests. Visuals by Visual Attack.Overloading your senses with deep underground house vibes at the coolest restaurant/bar in S.F. Free before 10pm. Dinners served until 10pm. Resurrecting the deep funk we call House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. [4.8 - Matty B (XLR8R, Housewares)] [4.15 - Hardkiss/Sunburn Recordings Night: Charlotte, Niven, Al-Jay, Wade, Scott] [4.15 - Robbie and Gavin Hardkiss, record giveaways] [4.22 - Garth (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] [4.29 - Taj (Waller St. Boys)] [5.6 - Jeno (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] Atmospheric Drum & Bass - Peregrine. 8pm-11pm, . Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St, SF. Manifesto - - soul, hip hop, dub, jungle & electro w/DJs w/DJs monkey, marlo, & weekly guests.. Come on out and eat a late dinner and stay with us for drinks and more. 9:30pm-to close, Free. ChaChaCha's located at The Original McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @19th Street, SOMA. Eklektic - jungle, drum n bass w/DJ Sage (jungle/drum 'n' bass Resident). Live: Weekly guests from the Bay area + the World. 9pm-2am, 21+, $12. 78 Minna, SF. 415.332.5800 x787 Double Trouble - Romanowski , Special Guests. Live funk and hip hop. Abstract Jazz. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Silky...smoothe and sublime - Come listen to how the ladys lay down the funky beats w/DJs Tracy (Sister), FabuLizz (Progress), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls). Silky, the all female cast of the SF underground, will be held at Il Pirata on the third Thursday of every month. (between Potrero and Utah) Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno. Email 9pm-2am, $3. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 [4.15 - Charlotte the Baroness (Sunburn Records)] The Circus - Hip-hop, Disco, Club Classics, House w/DJs Paolo Vincenti (Resident), Romero X Pinoza (Resident), Special Guests Weekly. Thursday night -this thursday, January 28th, is THE grand opening. 9:30pm-, 18+. $5 with a college ID. La Vals, 2516 Durant Ave, Berkeley. 510.595.5597 Every Thursday at the Top - Deep House spun by: w/DJs Laron, John Pickett, Dani, Robbie Hardkiss. Steven Tune and the original dues rock "we got the beats" beats for all kinds for the premillinnial mind. $3. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. FriscoGlide - Every Thursday at the Top w/DJs John Pickett, Laron, Rotating guests as well. House Music The Top (Lower Haight), SF. Definition - Quality house music by the world's leading djs - house, techno w/DJs Markus (Resident / Kickdrum), JP (Resident / Kickdrum), Kamahele (Undertow Records). Inside Sacramento's Newest Club 'The Garage'. $5. Club 1831, 1831 19th Street, Sacramento. 916.484.4614 [4.8 - Rick Preston ( Glasgow Underground )] [4.15 - Andy Blake ( Doodlebug, Abnormal Records, UK )] [4.22 - Tony ( Gathering, SF )] Techno Thursdays - house, techno w/DJs Dj Matt in the Hatt, Weekly Guests. Spinning house and techno every Thursday @ the Q Cafe. 9pm-. Q Cafe, 529 Alma, Palo Alto. 650.322.3311 _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Harmony Party Line - 408-486-9591 * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * the Buzz-line, a global party network - 650.569.3300 * Clubline - 415.339.8686 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * The Groove Line - 415.331.1500 ext.4788 * Mixology-Music (north bay) - 707.526.1230 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 * V.O.R.G. info - 415.750.3100 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV/Net Shows * Sunday-Sunday, 24 hours, 7 days a week, "Technostate" spins live with the dopest underground bay area dj's and work very hard at it! For more info see Technostate Website * Sunday night 8pm-10pm - "Soundz of Resistance" w/DJ Poohbear. Underground electronic music, mainly jungle/drum and bass, dub and hard techno along with guest DJs, interviews and not-so-random amples of life. KZSC 88.1 (Santa Cruz) * Sunday Night at 8pm - "Threshold" on Raveworld.net, A audio show featuring world class drum 'n' bass and Jungle Djs. * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Sunday night midnight-1am - "Shortwave" - Electronic music in all of its guises. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Sunday night 10pm-2am - "Jazzadelica" w/ Rocky Rococo. Exploring the groove: from jazz, funk and soul to world beat and all types of underground clubs. KFJC 89.7 (Los Altos Hills) * Monday night 9:30pm-midnight - "The Autobahn" w/dj Sutekh. Man and machine made music. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Monday 12 til 4 - "Three*Sixty Radio". Beta Lounge. * Mondays at 11:00 PM PST - "Krom" on Raveworld.net Featuring World Class Djs like Dj Sneak and Doc Martin * Every Other Mon Nite, 10pm-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis http://drxeno.cjb.net * Every Tuesday from 1 to 3pm - Trance, techno, breaks and jungle with "the underground with the secret asian man" - available on real audio @ ksfs.sfsu.edu Call ins, requests, and chances to win free gifts and passes to shows are always available, just stay tuned.... need more info? please email me at leopimp44@aol.com * Tuesday night 9pm-11:00pm - "Conscious Groove" - ambientdowntempojunglehousetrancedrumnbasstriphop spun by weekly guest DJs. Hosted by Stephanie aka Miss fat slice. Free Radio Berkeley on the internet - www.freeradio.org * Tuesday night 9pm-mid Pacific - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. The best in beats to satiate your inner child. Electronic dance, noise, spoken word, world music and more. Also available in RealAudio @ Epiphany of Sound Real Audio Also available: Humour List Archive Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) * Wednesday 3am-6am - "Nothing Short of Total War" w/Fathertime. Electronic musik of all kinds, interspersed with spoken word poetry and other various readings. KSCU 101.3 (Santa Clara/San Jose) * radio M.U.T.A.N.T. - live experimental techno and dj's playing all styles of underground music. spaz * Wednesday night 9pm-11pm - free form music mix. KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley) * Wednesday night - "the Power of Sound" with Leslie. A 3 hour excursion into the best music from the regions where minds meet between the heavans and the earth. KAZU 90.3 (Monterey Bay Community Radio) * Thursday morning 5am-7am - A postmodern Garrison Keillor on crack, DJ Boomerang Fidget spins hilarious tales of backwoods meth labs, urban decay and redneck ravers; all with a social conscience. Also, ambient & techno. Free Radio Berkeley 104.1 (Berkeley) * Thursday Morning 6-9am - "GYNA" Resident Djs buttek and maytag in a live 3 hour mix format bringin the latest UK and stateside rekkids...Guest djs coming include DJ Poop (Sf) next week, also be on the lookout for spots by DJ SIFU, Hak, and Sipon. For requests, rewinds, or anything else, call (408) 554-5728 or email thegyna * "Back To Babylon" - House extravaganza with DJ Sneak and Doc Martin. see Raveworld.net * Thursday morning 10am-2pm - "The Further Adventures of Aardvark" - trip-hop to experimental to ambient to gabba etc, etc. KSJS 90.5 (San Jose). * Thursday 7pm-11pm - The Beta Lounge - Live on the net - electronic music and culture, worldwide. http://www.betalounge.com/ * Friday 12pm-4pm - weekly DJ netcasts. x-radio. * Friday 3pm-6pm - free form music mix. KUSF 90.3 (SF) (also available on Realaudio * Friday 9:30am-noon - Snappy the Aligator plays deep groove music that dips into cool electronic sounds, classic soul, reggae & more. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Fridays 8pm PST - Freak City on Raveworld.net the definitive show on dance cultures. Featuring artists like Paul Van Dyk, Jason Bentley, Air and best of 1998 (Carl Cox, Josh Wink, Moontribe, Spundae, Burning Man * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night 1am-4am - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", with residents and hosts david garcia, st john along with joey mazzola and dj doubt. David garcia and joey mazzola are resident djs at the SKYLOUNGE located at 525 harrison st. along with rotating djs bb hayes and demilo. 1am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday morning - 12:30am-3am - "Under a Groove" with DJ CK featuring the deepest house grooves, downtempo cuts, and melodic drum and bass tunes. KZSC 88.1 FM, Santa Cruz. * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * (every other) Saturday night 10p-12:30a - "1984" w/DJ Richtoffen. House, Trance and German rave. 90.1 (Chico) * Saturday night - "amp" 1am. MTV. * Saturday night - "Subsonic". 1am-6am, KITS 105.3 SF. * Saturday night - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", Top 10s from guest DJs and "London Connection w/DJ Doubt". 2am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Ambiance Magazine - 9:30p weds-sun PNC Cable 2 (Modesto & Oakdale), 9p fri & sat, marcus cable ch 9 (ceres & turlock). * Saturday night/Sunday morning - 10pm - 3am, Aaron Axelson, Live 105.3 _________________________________________________________________ For a search interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.latetrain.com/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. 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Karina Powers - karina@hyperreal.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 14:29:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13780 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 14:29:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 13772 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 14:29:00 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 14:29:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402142931.16154.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.134.242.174] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 06:29:31 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:29:31 -0800 (PST) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON To: AtheistJon@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I think your doing just fine.love,Julie --- AtheistJon@aol.com wrote: > > forgive....im not good at typing my thoughtsout (id > rather talk but everyones > asleep) > -aaron>> > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 14:37:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16771 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 14:37:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 16763 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 14:37:49 -0000 Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 14:37:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402143602.1409.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.134.242.174] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 06:36:02 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:36:02 -0800 (PST) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Your just realizing how lucky we all are? Good for > you! Tis true, we are > so, so lucky all of us to be living in such a > fortuitous time.love,Julie p.s. I can't get into your e-mail address right now. I don't know why. Just thought I'd mention it.> > --- Taiida@aol.com wrote: > > Ok, so. . . I just got back from watching a deaf > > play, "Little Women," for my > > sign language class assignment and I just now > > realized how lucky us ravers > > are by being able to listen to music and dance, > > whereas, the deaf, don't get > > the joy of it. They don't go out dancing, or go to > > record and music stores. > > What do they do for fun? besides just socializing > > and other stuff. > > > > Sorry, just had to share that. . . It was just > > something that was on my mind > > tonite. Hope to see you guys at FGE! > > > > Luv n hugz n stuff > > Tami =) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 14:58:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23764 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 14:58:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 23735 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 14:57:59 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 14:57:59 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.133] (ghana-133.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.133]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15413; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:57:44 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:14:21 -0800 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Fri) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SEE THE INNOCENCE "...I'm merely talking about learning to be less by the actions of people." ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 16:49:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4266 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 16:49:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 4255 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 16:49:18 -0000 Received: from f130.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 16:49:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 4223 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 16:48:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402164837.4222.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:48:37 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: djscience@rocketmail.com, clatterbox@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:48:37 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Word!! I agree with Alex.. The best thing to do is get involved with the people that throw parties that cater to the type of music you play. I say about 80% of the time just handing a promoter a tape and saying call me or I want to get hooked up will really get you no where at least in my experience. Most promoters book there friends or people they are in contact with often. And pay your dues doing shitty house parties,Playing free parties etc..You are in for a long bumpy road but in the end it totally pays off.. Keep practicing and don't get discouraged. Peaces, Macadio (Tekno-Masochist) >From: SCiEnCe >To: In Vitro , sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? >Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:07:08 -0800 (PST) > > >Whoo, I get to answer something like this a couple times a year on >this list. Here are my suggestions: > >1) GET INVOLVED! Get involved with a crew or throw your own party. In >this scene you get out what you put in. >2) Mixtapes- Hand them out to people you think might be interested in, >and appreciative of your music. However, it REALLY helps to get to >know the people you give the tapes to...see #1. >3) Practice... when you do get your chance, you'll want to impress. >Work on your style, something that makes you distinctive and unique. > >good luck, > >Science > > > > >---In Vitro wrote: >> >> As everybody wants to get a gig as a dj, so do I. For years I've been >> wasting money on records and finally I decided to play them out one >day. >> But what should I do to make this plan come true? Are there any >masters >> out there who are willing to share their wisdom to us little >> wanna-be-djs-outta-box. What is the best way to contact clubs in >order >> to offer them my service of entertainment ? >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 17:02:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8403 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 17:02:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 8391 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 17:02:31 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 17:02:31 -0000 Received: from godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.102.8]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id LAA16726; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id LAA02012; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:54:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:54:30 -0500 (EST) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu To: AtheistJon@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: atheistjon's SFR posts and AOL Terms Of Service In-Reply-To: <2a146edf.2435e432@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if you remember athiestjon's apology post, he has a psychotic disorder of a split personality (which makes perfect sense as to why he can act so harsh, and then be very apologetic, and then suddenly switch gears again.) just ignore further posts (like so many have already said), delete them, forget about ahtiestjon. let him deal with his psychologist. it's not a problem any of us can fix. i shouldn't even be writing this post, but the more gets written, the more fuel we'll be putting on the fire. i hope this is one of the last posts on this thread, and if we recieve any further posts by him, just don't even read the e-mail. delete it right off the bat, because nothing he has said so far has been worth any of our time. amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 17:11:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11207 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 17:11:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 11163 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 17:11:17 -0000 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net (HELO mail.ednet.net) (216.112.68.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 17:11:17 -0000 Received: from [216.112.68.221] (HELO [10.0.0.2]) by mail.ednet.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b2) with ESMTP id S.0000298924; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:11:15 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: joe@mail.ednet.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:11:21 -0800 To: Karina Powers From: Joe Rice Subject: Re: This Week's SFR Calendar for 04.04.99 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org, Karina Powers Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 4:07 AM -0800 4/2/99, Karina Powers wrote: >Greetings >Fellow Family, > >This weekend is full of many great parties! > >I know that I will be at many of the parties.. >Rememeber to turn your clocks back 1 hour on Sunday at 2am. Erm, I think it's forward this time of year, back in the fall, so an hour less this weekend. Joe From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 17:14:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13839 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 17:14:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 13808 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 17:14:27 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 17:14:27 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.pgmusa.com ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01562; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:14:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:04:43 -0800 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'Joe Rice'" , Karina Powers Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org, Karina Powers Subject: RE: This Week's SFR Calendar for 04.04.99 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:04:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You're right. The way I always remember it is "Spring Forward, Fall Backward!" Dorky, but it helps to remember!! LOL Naomi Thompson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 17:39:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25829 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 17:39:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25810 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 17:39:24 -0000 Received: from web131.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.174) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 17:39:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402173958.1272.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web131.yahoomail.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:39:58 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:39:58 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Are U gonna Feel Good on Friday? To: JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm...Hotel? Now there's an idea. My friend doesn't want to go to FGF is because we're suppose to go to Sac to a friend's home and he doesn't want to show up at 9-10 in the morning just to crash out. BUT!!!! Our plan is to go to the Gathering on Sat. So getting a hotel on Saturday Morning would make more sense than going all the way to Sac to pick someone up to come back to the bay. well at least to me it makes sense-$1.80 for gas??? So what makes more sense to you all? Go to Sac tonite to just hung out then go to the bay saturday nite (About 6½-7 hours round trip) or Just go to the bay get a room have those from sac come met us in the room and go to the gathering. (About 4 hours round trip) *HUGZ* pat PS: J.B. The Gathering is something for ya to do on Saturday. ;) INFO: 415.905.8888 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 17:44:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29046 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 17:44:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 29038 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 17:44:31 -0000 Received: from web131.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.174) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 17:44:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402174505.2225.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web131.yahoomail.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:45:05 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:45:05 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: Guess What???? To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THAT'S WHAT!!!! :D *HUGZ* pat sorry, it's friday, the sun is out and I'm inside. They left me by myself in the lab this morning and I'm really bored. =Þ Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 17:58:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6682 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 17:58:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 6665 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 17:58:38 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 17:58:38 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vBRMa19879; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:58:06 -0500 (EST) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <91c666a5.24365f2e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:58:06 EST Subject: Re: NRR: have you heard this song? To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kitana3737@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/2/99 1:19:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: << Hey has anyone heard the song "Everyone is free to wear sunscreen." on the radio lately? >> yeah!!!! i LOVE that song!! :D it`z by Baz Luhrmann [i`m pretty sure i`m spelling that name right...] aka the director of Romeo & Juliet [the one with leo and claire :)] i think the message is incredible, yeah? it was at first an article published in a chicago newspaper or something, and Baz took it and made it into the song it is now... there are all these rumors saying that the initial speech was a graduation speech by Kurt Vonnegut given at MIT but i loved the song so much that i checked up on the validity of that, and it turns out that`z completely false..... vonnegut had nothing to do with it. :) but its still great. yeah??... i dunno . i`ve heard it a million times and it never fails to move me... [especially the part where he talks about the nature of advice at the end .. *siGh*] okay all... have fun @ feel good friday [cus i can`t be there :(] and be sure to dance extra hard for me.... i got rejected from 2 colleges today !! boo. but i got into 4 so i guess its an even trade.... still waiting to hear from 4 more.... we`ll see. those two were my top 2 choices tho..... i guess life is just like that... swallow it and go on. :) muchloveandkissez* ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 18:05:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9165 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 18:05:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 9139 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 18:05:13 -0000 Received: from web701.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 18:05:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402180323.23959.rocketmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.11] by web701.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:03:23 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: mike bolger Subject: so Mark Farina's spinning at day time parties again - To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well alright. i remember when i always used to always associate stompys with him and tim dog. sunshine daydream's got him on may 2 at city nights. those guys have pretty good taste in music and city nights ((at least during the day)) is just a superior venue, probably even more so than 550 Barneveld. it takes vsf closing down for a month for people to realize that there are a lot more permited venues in this city than those that just cater to ravers. i'm gonna support this party and i know that they can pull a good crowd to fill that place. should be cool. Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 18:22:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16337 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 18:22:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16312 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 18:22:24 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 18:22:24 -0000 From: "vipassana" Subject: Nrr: Hello!! It's a brite beautiful day!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:20:57 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone.... Just wanted to say hi and wish you a happy day filled with sunshine and love!!!! Hope to see you kids this weekend at children of the sun "a deep deep journey through the undergroud" 1 year anniversary Please be safe this weekend where ever you go..... matt :-o} (aka vipassana) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 18:23:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17338 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 18:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 17314 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 18:23:10 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 18:23:10 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13916 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:23:07 -0800 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:23:42 -0800 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB902@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: so Mark Farina's spinning at day time parties again - Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:23:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk don't forget onionz at the same sunshine daydream...this one is gonna be insane (and it is right before my b-day so i am gonna venture to say this party is gonna OWN!!!!) eric j -----Original Message----- From: mike bolger [mailto:youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:03 AM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: so Mark Farina's spinning at day time parties again - well alright. i remember when i always used to always associate stompys with him and tim dog. sunshine daydream's got him on may 2 at city nights. those guys have pretty good taste in music and city nights ((at least during the day)) is just a superior venue, probably even more so than 550 Barneveld. it takes vsf closing down for a month for people to realize that there are a lot more permited venues in this city than those that just cater to ravers. i'm gonna support this party and i know that they can pull a good crowd to fill that place. should be cool. Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 18:34:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23008 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 18:34:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 22856 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 18:33:58 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 18:33:58 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA04487; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA25691; Fri, 2 Apr 99 10:33:54 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:31:31 -0800 (PST) From: aminita To: Eric Jones Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: so Mark Farina's spinning at day time parties again - In-Reply-To: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB902@exchange1.foxracing.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk whoooohoooooo! i will be there! yeah!!!!!!!!!! don't forget to check the jungle line up too...it's outta control. :) On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Eric Jones wrote: > don't forget onionz at the same sunshine daydream...this one is gonna be > insane (and it is right before my b-day so i am gonna venture to say this > party is gonna OWN!!!!) > eric j > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike bolger [mailto:youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:03 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: so Mark Farina's spinning at day time parties again - > > > > well alright. i remember when i always used to always associate stompys > with him and tim dog. sunshine daydream's got him on may 2 at city > nights. those guys have pretty good taste in music and city nights ((at > least during the day)) is just a superior venue, probably even more so > than 550 Barneveld. it takes vsf closing down for a month for people to > realize that there are a lot more permited venues in this city than > those that just cater to ravers. i'm gonna support this party and i know > that they can pull a good crowd to fill that place. should be cool. > Do You Yahoo!? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 18:36:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24217 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 18:35:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 24131 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 18:35:53 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 18:35:53 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 3LPJa23850; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:28:01 -0500 (EST) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <477bd80a.24366631@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:28:01 EST Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . To: Taiida@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/1/99 10:22:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, Taiida@aol.com writes: << They don't go out dancing, or go to record and music stores. What do they do for fun? besides just socializing and other stuff. >> WEll.. you went to a play they put on... doesn't that give you some idea?? THey have every bit as much fun as we do. Coming from a town that has a HUGE deaf community (the California School for the Deaf is located here and our community college offers courses for deaf people) I see them all over. Ice skating, going out to resteraunts... they can watch TV with closed captioning, and go to parks and all over just as well as you and I can. They aren't invalids. And perhaps being able to hear impairs our other senses. Maybe we don't quite SEE everything that they do. I know there was a thread about this before... actually.. i think I started it... about deaf people going to raves. Since a lot of it is VISUALs and they can still Feel the bass, I don't see why they can't enjoy it as much as us. It's all in your perspective.... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 18:42:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28467 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 18:42:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 28444 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 18:42:19 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 18:42:19 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 3SCKa23881; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:37:32 -0500 (EST) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:37:32 EST Subject: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON To: AtheistJon@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, laraz@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/1/99 11:14:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, AtheistJon@aol.com writes: << Okay is this rave related? NO! Get this garbage off of the ravepost or at least put NRR because it is just that NRR. And what the fuck are you so upset about? Its a friend of your dad's you don't even know the fucker, stop your whining , the death of a stranger struck you harder than your own grandma, there is something definitely wrong in that are you telling me your grandma never smiled? >> THIS IS IT!! lara I want this person off the list. This is the ultimate most disgraceful thing anyone has ever posted to our list. The meaningless bullshit he wrote before could have been ignored.. we all know he's an idiot. But when someone looks to us for support or guidance or consolation and he comes back with some Fucking Crap like this about "why the hell are you so upset someone you know killed themselves?" This is so incredibly insensitive.. it's too AURGH! i can't even say what I want to I'm so mad. If this little boy has nothing better to do with his time then make up rude letters to put on a mailing list that doesn't want him there anyways then get rid of him. I don't 'care if he signs back on under a different name.. keep booting him off... this is ridiculous.... I'm under a lot of stress too.. a woman at work last night just had an asthma attack... stopped breathign adn was taken to the hospital, while people were freaked out thinking she was going to die. DEATH IS NOT A JOKE. but you are, Athiest Jon, and you'd better hope to your non-existent god that I never meet you, or your true alter-ego because (and I am not a violent person) I will grab your head and slam in to the ground repeatedly until I am satisfied that you truly comprehend what a DICK you are. Get off this list.. that's all I can even say. I have never had to write a post like this ever.... You are the most pathetic person to ever attempt to be humorous. Fuming fuming fuming i may regret posting this later on, but it was well deserved..... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 18:43:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29362 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 18:43:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 29348 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 18:43:37 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 18:43:37 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-208.dsp.com [204.118.76.208]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA08501; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:46:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199904021846.KAA08501@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:41:20 -0800 To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, Taiida@aol.com From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . Cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <477bd80a.24366631@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There are lots of musical events for deaf people - typically baloons are provided for enhancement of feeling the sound vibrations. It's not all about the cocchlea, see... I bet there are alot of deaf junlists out there; the bass would kick them the same place it kicks us - in the boo-tay. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 18:51:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4903 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 18:51:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 4870 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 18:51:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 18:51:40 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:49:59 -0800 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id 761FBB83E88B11D282FA00A0C9CFADA2 for plus 2 more; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:49:59 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: Cc: , Subject: RE: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:52:38 -0800 Message-ID: <000101be7d39$fb440760$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-SLUIDL: 60502646-E88B11D2-82FA00A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I can't believe this person hasn't gotten the boot a long time ago. I don't care how much everyone out there believes that this list is supposed to be open to everybody. Jon shows a complete lack of respect and compassion for EVERYONE on this list. He is not going to mellow out with time and he is NEVER going to contribute anything positive to the list. I think it's fucking disgrace that he's been allowed on the list for as long as he has with all the people he's pissed off. Can't someone get it together and get rid of him? Sorry.. but it's gone way past just filtering out his messages.. they shouldn't get posted in the first place. The jokes on us.. cause he's getting his laughs, and we get frustrated and do NOTHING!.. -------------------------------- Gerlando -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:38 AM To: AtheistJon@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org; laraz@hyperreal.org Subject: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON In a message dated 4/1/99 11:14:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, AtheistJon@aol.com writes: << Okay is this rave related? NO! Get this garbage off of the ravepost or at least put NRR because it is just that NRR. And what the fuck are you so upset about? Its a friend of your dad's you don't even know the fucker, stop your whining , the death of a stranger struck you harder than your own grandma, there is something definitely wrong in that are you telling me your grandma never smiled? >> THIS IS IT!! lara I want this person off the list. This is the ultimate most disgraceful thing anyone has ever posted to our list. The meaningless bullshit he wrote before could have been ignored.. we all know he's an idiot. But when someone looks to us for support or guidance or consolation and he comes back with some Fucking Crap like this about "why the hell are you so upset someone you know killed themselves?" This is so incredibly insensitive.. it's too AURGH! i can't even say what I want to I'm so mad. If this little boy has nothing better to do with his time then make up rude letters to put on a mailing list that doesn't want him there anyways then get rid of him. I don't 'care if he signs back on under a different name.. keep booting him off... this is ridiculous.... I'm under a lot of stress too.. a woman at work last night just had an asthma attack... stopped breathign adn was taken to the hospital, while people were freaked out thinking she was going to die. DEATH IS NOT A JOKE. but you are, Athiest Jon, and you'd better hope to your non-existent god that I never meet you, or your true alter-ego because (and I am not a violent person) I will grab your head and slam in to the ground repeatedly until I am satisfied that you truly comprehend what a DICK you are. Get off this list.. that's all I can even say. I have never had to write a post like this ever.... You are the most pathetic person to ever attempt to be humorous. Fuming fuming fuming i may regret posting this later on, but it was well deserved..... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 18:54:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6283 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 18:54:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 6274 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 18:54:28 -0000 Received: from web206.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 18:54:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402185710.24832.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web206.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:57:10 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:57:10 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: Re: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: TeKnODiVa@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why are you people even still reading what he is posting? I automatically delete it. Its really very easy, I dont even bother with filters, I just delete it. I dont condone racism, I dont hang out with racists. But that is in the REAL world. This is a list, on the internet. No amount of kicking this guy off is gonna keep him off. If this was the real world, we could kick his ass and he would probably go away. Here, he will keep coming back, and all you have to do is delete. I really wish you people would get a clue. Brian, you must have an extreme amount of patience to have run the list for all those years. Steve =) --- TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/1/99 11:14:31 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > AtheistJon@aol.com writes: > > << Okay is this rave related? NO! Get this garbage > off of the ravepost or at > least put NRR because it is just that NRR. And what > the fuck are you so > upset about? Its a friend of your dad's you don't > even know the fucker, > stop > your whining , the death of a stranger struck you > harder than your own > grandma, there is something definitely wrong in that > are you telling me your > grandma never smiled? >> > > THIS IS IT!! lara I want this person off the list. > This is the ultimate most > disgraceful thing anyone has ever posted to our list. > The meaningless > bullshit he wrote before could have been ignored.. we > all know he's an idiot. > But when someone looks to us for support or guidance > or consolation and he > comes back with some Fucking Crap like this about > "why the hell are you so > upset someone you know killed themselves?" This is so > incredibly > insensitive.. it's too AURGH! i can't even say what I > want to I'm so mad. If > this little boy has nothing better to do with his > time then make up rude > letters to put on a mailing list that doesn't want > him there anyways then get > rid of him. I don't 'care if he signs back on under > a different name.. keep > booting him off... this is ridiculous.... > I'm under a lot of stress too.. a woman at work last > night just had an asthma > attack... stopped breathign adn was taken to the > hospital, while people were > freaked out thinking she was going to die. DEATH IS > NOT A JOKE. but you > are, Athiest Jon, and you'd better hope to your > non-existent god that I never > meet you, or your true alter-ego because (and I am > not a violent person) I > will grab your head and slam in to the ground > repeatedly until I am satisfied > that you truly comprehend what a DICK you are. Get > off this list.. that's > all I can even say. I have never had to write a post > like this ever.... You > are the most pathetic person to ever attempt to be > humorous. > > Fuming fuming fuming > i may regret posting this later on, but it > was well deserved..... > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:02:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12491 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:01:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 12430 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:01:54 -0000 Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:01:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402190101.23282.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:01:01 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:01:01 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: You guys dont get it. RE: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: gpxl@pcgr.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk He will just come back, as somebody else. Lara doesnt have an indicator to tell her who has been on the list before when somebody new subscribes. Would you all like to lock the doors, and just start kicking people who we dont like? Then where does it end? Delete, delete, delete. You cant make this person go away. You can kick him off a million times, he will always have a way to get another new email address. Lara is doing the right thing. Steve =) --- Gerlando Piro wrote: > I can't believe this person hasn't gotten the boot a > long time ago. I don't > care how much everyone out there believes that this > list is supposed to be > open to everybody. > > Jon shows a complete lack of respect and compassion > for EVERYONE on this > list. He is not going to mellow out with time and he > is NEVER going to > contribute anything positive to the list. > > I think it's fucking disgrace that he's been allowed > on the list for as long > as he has with all the people he's pissed off. Can't > someone get it together > and get rid of him? > > Sorry.. but it's gone way past just filtering out his > messages.. they > shouldn't get posted in the first place. The jokes on > us.. cause he's > getting his laughs, and we get frustrated and do > NOTHING!.. > > -------------------------------- > Gerlando > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org > [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On > Behalf Of TeKnODiVa@aol.com > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:38 AM > To: AtheistJon@aol.com > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org; laraz@hyperreal.org > Subject: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF > BURTON > > In a message dated 4/1/99 11:14:31 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > AtheistJon@aol.com writes: > > << Okay is this rave related? NO! Get this garbage > off of the ravepost or > at > least put NRR because it is just that NRR. And what > the fuck are you so > upset about? Its a friend of your dad's you don't > even know the fucker, > stop > your whining , the death of a stranger struck you > harder than your own > grandma, there is something definitely wrong in that > are you telling me > your > grandma never smiled? >> > > THIS IS IT!! lara I want this person off the list. > This is the ultimate > most > disgraceful thing anyone has ever posted to our list. > The meaningless > bullshit he wrote before could have been ignored.. we > all know he's an > idiot. > But when someone looks to us for support or guidance > or consolation and he > comes back with some Fucking Crap like this about > "why the hell are you so > upset someone you know killed themselves?" This is so > incredibly > insensitive.. it's too AURGH! i can't even say what I > want to I'm so mad. > If > this little boy has nothing better to do with his > time then make up rude > letters to put on a mailing list that doesn't want > him there anyways then > get > rid of him. I don't 'care if he signs back on under > a different name.. keep > booting him off... this is ridiculous.... > I'm under a lot of stress too.. a woman at work last > night just had an > asthma > attack... stopped breathign adn was taken to the > hospital, while people were > freaked out thinking she was going to die. DEATH IS > NOT A JOKE. but you > are, Athiest Jon, and you'd better hope to your > non-existent god that I > never > meet you, or your true alter-ego because (and I am > not a violent person) I > will grab your head and slam in to the ground > repeatedly until I am > satisfied > that you truly comprehend what a DICK you are. Get > off this list.. that's > all I can even say. I have never had to write a post > like this ever.... You > are the most pathetic person to ever attempt to be > humorous. > > Fuming fuming fuming > i may regret posting this later on, but it > was well deserved..... > > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:02:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12978 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:02:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 12750 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:02:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:02:07 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:58:06 -0800 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id 761FBB89E88B11D282FA00A0C9CFADA2 for plus 2 more; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:58:06 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:00:44 -0800 Message-ID: <000301be7d3b$1d1042e0$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990402185710.24832.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-SLUIDL: 60502652-E88B11D2-82FA00A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Steve- If you are saying this list is completely out of anyone's control then why do we have a monitor? Is it not worth the effort to boot him again and again to preserve the list? -------------------------------- Gerlando -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Creamy Goodness Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:57 AM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Subject: Re: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON Why are you people even still reading what he is posting? I automatically delete it. Its really very easy, I dont even bother with filters, I just delete it. I dont condone racism, I dont hang out with racists. But that is in the REAL world. This is a list, on the internet. No amount of kicking this guy off is gonna keep him off. If this was the real world, we could kick his ass and he would probably go away. Here, he will keep coming back, and all you have to do is delete. I really wish you people would get a clue. Brian, you must have an extreme amount of patience to have run the list for all those years. Steve =) --- TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/1/99 11:14:31 PM Pacific > Standard Time, > AtheistJon@aol.com writes: > > << Okay is this rave related? NO! Get this garbage > off of the ravepost or at > least put NRR because it is just that NRR. And what > the fuck are you so > upset about? Its a friend of your dad's you don't > even know the fucker, > stop > your whining , the death of a stranger struck you > harder than your own > grandma, there is something definitely wrong in that > are you telling me your > grandma never smiled? >> > > THIS IS IT!! lara I want this person off the list. > This is the ultimate most > disgraceful thing anyone has ever posted to our list. > The meaningless > bullshit he wrote before could have been ignored.. we > all know he's an idiot. > But when someone looks to us for support or guidance > or consolation and he > comes back with some Fucking Crap like this about > "why the hell are you so > upset someone you know killed themselves?" This is so > incredibly > insensitive.. it's too AURGH! i can't even say what I > want to I'm so mad. If > this little boy has nothing better to do with his > time then make up rude > letters to put on a mailing list that doesn't want > him there anyways then get > rid of him. I don't 'care if he signs back on under > a different name.. keep > booting him off... this is ridiculous.... > I'm under a lot of stress too.. a woman at work last > night just had an asthma > attack... stopped breathign adn was taken to the > hospital, while people were > freaked out thinking she was going to die. DEATH IS > NOT A JOKE. but you > are, Athiest Jon, and you'd better hope to your > non-existent god that I never > meet you, or your true alter-ego because (and I am > not a violent person) I > will grab your head and slam in to the ground > repeatedly until I am satisfied > that you truly comprehend what a DICK you are. Get > off this list.. that's > all I can even say. I have never had to write a post > like this ever.... You > are the most pathetic person to ever attempt to be > humorous. > > Fuming fuming fuming > i may regret posting this later on, but it > was well deserved..... > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:15:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20764 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:15:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 20749 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:15:09 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:15:09 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-156.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.156]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA11633 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:15:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990402174730.00709b68@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:47:30 -0600 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: NRR: Random thought to a random question Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Um anyone remeber a cartoon where this bear had a huge blonde afro and like he lived in a zoo and he had this cave that was all swanky and decked out with electronics n stuff...I just remeber the theme going..."in the wonderland zoo" And for that matter anyone remember cartoon usa wher the little train used to pass by and it would be like cartoon usa! and then you had dance party usa which was just so funny.. and then you had usa up all nite which had the best b movies if i ever saw... My gawd it's the sun doing this to me.. over n out Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:25:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27489 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:25:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 27428 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:25:37 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:25:37 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vNIZa04947 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:22:17 -0500 (EST) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:22:17 EST Subject: Re: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IMHO, this person is perfectly sane. He knows what he is doing. Its my observation that he is toying, to say the least, with the people on the list. He probably has a degree in psychology. Just ignore him. Sure he says things that are totally inappropriate. But we all have a choice. There is no way that Lara can police all of this. Im sure just taking care of the list is a tremendous amount of work. And the added time of policing would be just to much. If Jon posts again. Simply delete it. After time he wont bother anymore. Be smarter than him. Peace M PS. And by no way am I defending him. I am sick to my stomach with his posts. So no flames please. hahaha. Enjoy the wonderful weather. And smile. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:28:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1433 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:28:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1415 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:28:49 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:28:49 -0000 Received: from godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.102.8]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id OAA24972; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id OAA14322; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:18:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:18:50 -0500 (EST) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu To: Gerlando Piro cc: colostamy@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, TeKnODiVa@aol.com Subject: RE: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON In-Reply-To: <000301be7d3b$1d1042e0$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it is very worth it to boot him off this list. for a while, he needed to be ingored, now he needs to be gone from our lives. lara, i do not want athiest jon on this list any longer. if it takes a vote to unsub him from the list, count one vote as YES! amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:35:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8926 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:35:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8917 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:35:04 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:35:04 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id mNQZa18302; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:32:00 -0500 (EST) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <98da392c.24367530@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:32:00 EST Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . To: jw@wgdsearch.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, Taiida@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As a matter of fact. There are a group of girls that usually always come to FeeGood Events because of all the Visuals that are everywhere and they are huge Jungle fans. Really sweet Girls... In a message dated 4/2/99 10:43:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, jw@wgdsearch.com writes: << I bet there are alot of deaf junlists out there; the bass would kick them the same place it kicks us - in the boo-tay. Jessica >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:38:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11709 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:38:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 11700 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:38:37 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:38:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (ez060343@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with ESMTP id LAA18190; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:38:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:38:29 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Zanotto X-Sender: ez060343@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com cc: Taiida@aol.com, Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . In-Reply-To: <477bd80a.24366631@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just to add to this, in high school, I played against CSD in football and I wrestled against them. None of these guys felt like they were missin out because they could not hear, it just drove them harder in life, though I won't comment on their level of play in the sports(just bein a smartass) Peace. Ken From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:40:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14639 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:40:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 14629 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:40:19 -0000 Received: from f275.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.166) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:40:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 58160 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 19:39:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402193952.58158.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:39:51 PST X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:39:51 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All I have to say is that this list is here because we're all part of a movement. PLUR is not something that is practiced in everyday life, but when we get together for a little while we are able to create a more ideal society, and it's ideals should apply everywhere. Even and ESPECIALLY on this list. And the kind of disrespect that you've shown to someone who is dealing with a death is greater than anything I've ever seen in my life. There are few times that I've felt it and I've never said it, but having this person, this "AetheistJon" on the list, calling himself one of us, makes me ashamed to be a raver. I love all you guys very much. Remember what holds us together. Remember that we're friends. Sharpe >Okay is this rave related? NO! Get this garbage off of the ravepost or at >least put NRR because it is just that NRR. And what the fuck are you so >upset about? Its a friend of your dad's you don't even know the fucker, stop >your whining , the death of a stranger struck you harder than your own >grandma, there is something definitely wrong in that are you telling me your >grandma never smiled? > AtheistJon > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:41:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15559 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:41:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 15546 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:41:45 -0000 Received: from f24.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.234) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:41:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19452 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 19:41:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402194118.19451.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:41:18 PST X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: atheistjon's SFR posts and AOL Terms Of Service Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:41:18 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *Greatly confused* Who the hell is this guy??? Sharpe >Hey Tina, > Forward to your hearts content, but since this is a public >forum they can't do a thing. And even if my account was terminated, I'd just >be back on in a matter of minutes. And what the hell happened to freedom of >speech, so every time someone says something you don't agree with such as >talking about how many hits of E they did last night, it'll bother some >prissy bitch like yourself and wham Forward it! Off with his head. Anyway >I'm not going away :) > luv, > The cuddly Atheist From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:49:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19601 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:49:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 19593 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:49:44 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:49:44 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vQSGa02604 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:40:11 -0500 (EST) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <731604d6.2436771b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:40:11 EST Subject: RE: THE HISTORY OF OUR SCENE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: WWoodliff@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dose anybody remember I think maybe it was Tribal Funks 2 or 3 year Tony was just finishing his set (he rocked it as usual) so I decided to go out and get some fresh air when this ominous sound of a helicopter started thundering out from the speakers. Something in the air changed and I new I had to get right back to the decks. As soon as I got there everything went silent and this tekno diva goddess came out and started singing accapela, it blew me and everyone else away....At the end of her song she broke out into "We are Family" Chills go straight up my spine and then as if that was not enough Dan comes in and starts scratching beats over her voice in time with the song The crowed went berserk everyone in there looked like the Cheshire cat with a smile from ear to ear. And then it all creshendows with him dropping this fatt brake beat over her voice. My body was fully exsosted from dancing to Tony's vinyl weaving mastery but I found some reserves and kept it going through the rest of the set. Its just one of those moments in our history that I will never forget. I hope it brings back some good memories for some of you out there. Much love: JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:52:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20979 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:52:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 20968 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:52:20 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:52:20 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vQHCa07953; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:51:41 -0500 (EST) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <81d5b84c.243679cd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:51:41 EST Subject: Re: BSP: Late breaking NEWS!!!! To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just Talk to PETER COTTON TAIL and he informed me that He will be making an appearance tonight hopping down the bunny trail at Feel Good Friday and will be bringing Easter eggs and baskets for all the kids! He has a tight schedule this weekend! He also said if you wear Bunny ears in his honor he will give you a special prizes! Also he said for all those who are not coming out tonight, Please have a safe and fun safe weekend and watch out for all the bunny's! Those are his coworkers and he needs them for the kiddies...Please no Road kill!!!! =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:52:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21630 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:52:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 21620 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:52:41 -0000 Received: from law-f49.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.112) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:52:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 54633 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 19:52:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402195214.54632.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:52:14 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:52:14 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is my first and last post regarding this athiestjon guy cause quite frankly he isn't worth anyone's time. BUT there's a little thing called KARMA which will eventually come back to haunt this guy. I'm not sure what this guy's problem is nor do i really care if he's going to be outright hurtful to people. He's got his own personal pain to deal with and he's content to take it out on anyone he sees fit to. The things he writes are rude, offensive, and disrespectful and are posted only to be hurtful. Banishing him from the list would be fruitless though since he'll just come back with another alias either from hotmail or yahoo or even using a naming service to disguise his address. It's best not to give him the satisfaction of addressing his incessant blubbering. I know he makes us angry, even furious but I agree with Steve in saying that's what he wants when we post angry rebuttals. If he gets bored then he'll eventually find another outlet for his own feelings of inadequacy. By the way for anyone using hotmail, filters are available under "options" on the main screen. I hope you're all doing well I look forward to seeing y'all this weekend :) John B. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:53:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22477 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:53:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 22464 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:53:48 -0000 Received: from f298.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.190) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:53:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 59778 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 19:53:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402195322.59777.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:53:21 PST X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Flame form: AtheistJon Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:53:21 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FLAME FORM =========================================== ) ( ( ( ( ) () @@ ) (( ( ( ( )( @@ ( )) ) ( ( ( ( ()( /---\ (()( ( _______ ) ) )(@ !O O! )@@ ( ) ) ) < ____) ) ( ( )( ()@ \ o / (@@@@@ ( ()( ) /--| |( o| ( ) ) ((@@(@@ !o! @@@@(@@@@@)() ( | > \___| ) ( @)@@)@ /---\-/---\ )@@@@@()( ) | /---------+ (@@@@)@@@( // /-----\ \\ @@@)@@@@@( | | \ =========______/|@@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@ // @ /---\ @ \\ @(@@@(@@@ | \ \\=========------\|@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ O @@@ /-\ @@@ O@@(@@)@@ @ | \ \----+--\-))) @@@@@@@@@@ !! @@@@ % @@@@ !! @@)@@@ .. | |\______|_)))/ . @@@@@@ !! @@ /---\ @@ !! @@(@@@ @ \__========== * . @@ /MM /\O O/\ MM\ @@@@@@@. | |-\ \ ( . @ !!! !! \-/ !! !!! @@@@@ . | | \ \ ) . . @@@@ !! !! .(. @. .. . | | \ \ ( / .( . \)). 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((/ | ( | \( )) ((. ). ____<_____\\__\__(___)_))_((_(____))__(_(___.oooO_____Oooo.(_(_)_)((_ ========================================================================== Dear: [X] Spaz [ ] Clueless Newbie [ ] AOLer/Euronetter/PIer [ ] Me too er [ ] Pervert [ ] Geek [X] Spammer [ ] Nerd [ ] Elvis [ ] Fed [X] Freak [ ] FLAMENET [X] Other: Unbearably self-righteous person You Are Being Flamed Because: [ ] You posted a "test" in a newsgroup other than alt.test/nl.test [ ] You posted warez in pieces LESS than 5000 lines [ ] You posted a binary in a non-binaries group [X] You quoted an ENTIRE post in your reply [X] You continued a long, stupid thread [X] You started an off-topic thread [X] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message [ ] You said "me too" to something [ ] You don't know which group to post in [X] You suck [ ] You brag about things that never happened [ ] Your sig/alias/server sucks [X] You posted something totally uninteresting [ ] You crossposted [ ] You posted a message all written in CAPS [X] You posted racism shit [X] I don't like your tone of voice [ ] I think you might be a fed [X] You used crude, unnecessary language on a public list To Repent, You Must: [X] Give up your AOL/Euronet/Planet Internet account [X] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it [X] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor [X] Actually post something relevant [X] Read the f****** FAQ [X] Be Pat Buchanan's love slave [X] Be the guest of honor in alt.flame for a month [X] Apologize to everybody in this mailing list: sfraves@hyperreal.org [ ] Post your tests to alt.test/nl.test In Closing, I'd Like to Say: [X] See a shrink [X] Never post again [ ] I pity your dog [ ] Go to hell [ ] I think your IQ must be 7 [ ] Take your s*** somewhere else [X] Learn to post [X] Do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment [ ] See how far your tongue will fit into the electric outlet [ ] All of the above End of Flame. Have a nice day. ................. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:54:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23143 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:54:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23127 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:54:11 -0000 Received: from web215.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:54:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402195534.13794.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.134.240.140] by web215.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:55:34 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:55:34 -0800 (PST) From: Geri Dahl Subject: nrr:hope To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At the very least, I know you are thinking about it.love,Julie Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 19:55:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23901 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 19:55:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23885 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:55:11 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:55:11 -0000 Received: from BluSnday@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vNXGa29412 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:52:42 -0500 (EST) From: BluSnday@aol.com Message-ID: <89808bfb.24367a0a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:52:42 EST Subject: *sigh* AtheistJon is winning... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BluSnday@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For some people, there is no greater satisfaction than winning their own game. We're all playing Jon's game whether we like it or not; even I'm making a move with this post. It's a demented version of chess, and how do you win? Strategy. You don't go moving your pieces without first sizing up the current situation and considering your future options. If you bulldoze through all your lesser pieces, there's nothing left to protect your king. And in a game where neither side considers or cares about their next move, the only way to win is to be more ignorant than your opponent. Welcome to the past few weeks here on SFR. For the most part, people who make every attempt to anger others are simply looking for attention... duh... it makes them feel important. It makes them feel bigger. Booting this unintelligent fool from the list will only add to his feeling of superiority: he got you so riled up that you reacted. And that's what he's looking to do. Why give this dullard what he wants? Think before you act... don't necessarily ignore him (silence accomplishes very little), but keep a few things in mind before you make a kamikaze move in the spur of the moment: remember that this person is simply less of a human being than the rest of us. He's insignificant, and in the grand scheme of things, he's about as important as what goes down the drain after you wash your dishes. His self confidence is probably so low he needs to feed of the anger and misery of others to feel powerful. Remember that little kid in elementary school that used to pick on all the other little kids because he had no friends of his own and that was the only way he could manage to interact with others? Well here he is 15 years later. Don't give cadence to his pointless babbling and mindless chatter. We're all better than that. And he's not. *steph* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:05:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1556 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:05:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 1546 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:05:42 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:05:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA05111; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:05:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:05:36 -0800 (PST) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: Nuku cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [nrr] What do I win!?!?! In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990402093630.0070fdc0@apollo.sfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Nuku wrote: -&e->A big surprise if someone can tell me where this quote comes from; -&e->The sky is blue -&e->and all the leaves are green -&e->My heart is full like a bake po-ta-tah -&e->I think that I can really trully say -&e->that its a grand spo-doinkle day Cannibal the Musical!!! (best awful movie I've seen lately) That is SO FUGGIN DOPE!!! thanks nuku! Peace, AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:14:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6267 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:14:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 6076 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:14:30 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd119.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 1115 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 20:14:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402201403.1114.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.193.159 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:14:02 PST X-Originating-IP: [205.188.193.159] From: "sHaWn ." To: aminita@linex.com, EricJ@foxracing.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: so Mark Farina's spinning at day time parties again - Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:14:02 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And the Arc Angel Gabe Real, that guy seems to always go off on the decks at every party he spins at. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:22:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11268 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:22:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 11260 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:21:59 -0000 Received: from wya-oe8.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:21:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 21238 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 20:21:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402202132.21237.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.193.159 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:21:31 PST X-Originating-IP: [205.188.193.159] From: "sHaWn ." To: WWoodliff@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: THE HISTORY OF OUR SCENE Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:21:31 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of Tony, which Freedom was it, it was at the old race track thing, and during Tony's set(he was going off) Mark John's was doing the visuals and out of no where this freaky looking indian face comes on the giant screen and there was an eye at the other side but i forget what words kept going over and over on the screen. That was a great moment and every one I talk to that remembers that always call it the Freedom with the freaky Indian. They should have the next Freedom back at the old place, those roads were just a little to crazy last time. > >Dose anybody remember I think maybe it was Tribal Funks 2 or 3 year Tony was >just finishing his set (he rocked it as usual) so I decided to go out and get >some fresh air when this ominous sound of a helicopter started thundering out >from the speakers. Something in the air changed and I new I had to get right >back to the decks. As soon as I got there everything went silent and this >tekno diva goddess came out and started singing accapela, it blew me and >everyone else away....At the end of her song she broke out into "We are >Family" Chills go straight up my spine and then as if that was not enough Dan >comes in and starts scratching beats over her voice in time with the song The >crowed went berserk everyone in there looked like the Cheshire cat with a >smile from ear to ear. And then it all creshendows with him dropping this >fatt brake beat over her voice. My body was fully exsosted from dancing to >Tony's vinyl weaving mastery but I found some reserves and kept it going >through the rest of the set. Its just one of those moments in our history >that I will never forget. I hope it brings back some good memories for some >of you out there. > >Much love: JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:24:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12894 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:24:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12843 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:24:06 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:24:06 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vFLZa15497 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:21:56 -0500 (EST) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:21:56 EST Subject: ceating our own music To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: WWoodliff@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have set down the decks for a while and started to get into producing but sense I just started I want to get all the info I can before I go out and blow a lot of $$$ on equipment I don't really need. I just went out and bought a dope brand new PC sound a SB live sound card so this is what I want to use as my base platform. Dose anyone have any suggestions on what to and not to buy. I just got the stomper ultra++ off the net how dose it compare to equipment like the 808 or the 909 it seems preety dope to me and it was free check it out http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zap/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:26:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15405 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:26:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 15094 invoked by uid 228); 2 Apr 1999 20:26:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:26:23 -0800 (PST) From: Karina Powers To: Joe Rice cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: This Week's SFR Calendar for 04.04.99 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This serves as an example of staying up all night, working till 4am -- I should have consulted the age old saying, spring forward, fall back.. Sorry for the confusion... Karina ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Joe Rice wrote: > At 4:07 AM -0800 4/2/99, Karina Powers wrote: > >Greetings > >Fellow Family, > > > >This weekend is full of many great parties! > > > >I know that I will be at many of the parties.. > >Rememeber to turn your clocks back 1 hour on Sunday at 2am. > > Erm, I think it's forward this time of year, back in the fall, so an > hour less this weekend. > > Joe > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:40:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28974 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:40:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 28960 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:40:09 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:40:09 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vIFYa21758 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:38:48 -0500 (EST) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <477aaefb.243668b8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:38:48 EST Subject: (no subject) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: WWoodliff@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dose anybody remember I think maybe it was Tribal Funks 2 or 3 year Tony was just finishing his set (he rocked it as usual) so I decided to go out and get some fresh air when this ominous sound of a helicopter started thundering out from the speakers. Something in the air changed and I new I had to get right back to the decks. As soon as I got there everything went silent and this tekno diva goddess came out and started singing accapela, it blew me and everyone else away....At the end of her song she broke out into "We are Family" Chills go straight up my spine and then as if that was not enough Dan comes in and starts scratching beats over her voice in time with the song The crowed went berserk everyone in there looked like the Cheshire cat with a smile from ear to ear. And then it all creshendows with him dropping this fatt brake beat over her voice. My body was fully exsosted from dancing to Tony's vinyl weaving mastery but I found some reserves and kept it going through the rest of the set. Its just one of those moments in our history that I will never forget. I hope it brings back some good memories for some of you out there. Much love: JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:40:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29627 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:40:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 29614 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:40:25 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:40:25 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id iWTAa02604; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:20:19 -0500 (EST) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: <5e5b65fc.24367273@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:20:19 EST Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? To: clatterbox@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BryanLee21@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its hard getting started. Here's the catch, you are always going to be working hard to try and get that gig. Nothing will ever come easy at first. Some of the Djs you see playing a lot compromise a lot of what they believe in to get those gigs. Just remember, as with anything in the entertainment industry, its always about who you know. Just make sure you can provide on the talent end. Always make as many contacts as possible and market yourself. You have to sell yourself, not saying selling out, but you have to make a club owner or promoter want to pay money for you because they will realize that you will be making money for them. Contacts Contacts Contacts. Plus a good demo tape. Bryan Lee From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:49:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3404 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:49:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 3308 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:49:02 -0000 Received: from web222.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:49:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402204813.10915.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web222.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:48:13 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:48:13 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: Warmth list back up To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For those of you on the warmth list, it is back up and running now, we apologize for the delay. Steve =) PS - It is a great f'ing day outside! === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:49:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4305 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:49:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 4294 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:49:28 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:49:28 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06736; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for cache.ns.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:56:12 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:49:14 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'Kitana3737@aol.com'" , TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: NRR: have you heard this song? Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:49:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here's the speech. some great lessons for life... This speech was given by Kurt Vonnegut at MIT's commencement this year. Ladies and gentlemen of the class of '97: Wear sunscreen. If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. The long-term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists, whereas the rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering experience. I will dispense this advice now. Enjoy the power and beauty of your youth. Oh, never mind. You will not understand the power and beauty of your youth until they've faded. But trust me, in 20 years, you'll look back at photos of yourself and recall in a way you can't grasp now how much possibility lay before you and how fabulous you really looked. You are not as fat as you imagine. Don't worry about the future. Or worry, but know that worrying is as effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubble gum. The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind, the kind that blindside you at 4 pm on some idle Tuesday. Do one thing every day that scares you. Sing. Don't be reckless with other people's hearts. Don't put up with people who are reckless with yours. Floss. Don't waste your time on jealousy. Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind. The race is long and, in the end, it's only with yourself. Remember compliments you receive. Forget the insults. If you succeed in doing this, tell me how. Keep your old love letters. Throw away your old bank statements. Stretch. Don't feel guilty if you don't know what you want to do with your life. The most interesting people I know didn't know at 22 what they wanted to do with their lives. Some of the most interesting 40-year-olds I know still don't Get plenty of calcium. Be kind to your knees. You'll miss them when they're gone. Maybe you'll marry, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll have children, maybe you won't. Maybe you'll divorce at 40, maybe you'll dance the funky chicken on your 75th wedding anniversary. Whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much, or berate yourself either. Your choices are half chance. So are everybody else's. Enjoy your body. Use it every way you can. Don't be afraid of it or of what other people think of it. It's the greatest instrument you'll ever own. Dance, even if you have nowhere to do it but your living room. Read the directions, even if you don't follow them. Do not read beauty magazines. They will only make you feel ugly. Get to know your parents. You never know when they'll be gone for good. Be nice to your siblings. They're your best link to your past and the people most likely to stick with you in the future. Understand that friends come and go, but with a precious few you should hold on. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle, because the older you get, the more you need the people who knew you when you were young. Live in New York City once, but leave before it makes you hard. Live in Northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft. Travel. Accept certain inalienable truths: Prices will rise. Politicians will philander. You, too, will get old. And when you do, you'll fantasize that when you were young, prices were reasonable, politicians were noble, and children respected their elders. Respect your elders. Don't expect anyone else to support you. Maybe you have a trust fund. Maybe you'll have a wealthy spouse. But you never know when either one might run out. Don't mess too much with your hair or by the time you're 40 it willlook 85. Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia. Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth. But trust me on the sunscreen. Kurt Vonnegut, 6/97 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kitana3737@aol.com [SMTP:Kitana3737@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 9:58 AM > To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com; SFraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: NRR: have you heard this song? > > In a message dated 4/2/99 1:19:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, > TeKnODiVa@aol.com > writes: > > << Hey has anyone heard the song "Everyone is free to wear sunscreen." on > the > radio lately? >> > > yeah!!!! i LOVE that song!! :D > it`z by Baz Luhrmann [i`m pretty sure i`m spelling that name right...] > aka the director of Romeo & Juliet [the one with leo and claire :)] > i think the message is incredible, yeah? > it was at first an article published in a chicago newspaper or something, > and Baz took it and made it into the song it is now... > there are all these rumors saying that the initial speech was a graduation > > speech by Kurt Vonnegut given at MIT but i loved the song so much that i > checked up on the validity of that, and it turns out that`z completely > false..... vonnegut had nothing to do with it. :) but its still great. > yeah??... i dunno . i`ve heard it a million times and it never fails to > move > me... [especially the part where he talks about the nature of advice at > the > end .. *siGh*] okay all... have fun @ feel good friday [cus i can`t be > there > :(] and be sure to dance extra hard for me.... i got rejected from 2 > colleges > today !! boo. but i got into 4 so i guess its an even trade.... still > waiting > to hear from 4 more.... we`ll see. those two were my top 2 choices > tho..... i > guess life is just like that... swallow it and go on. :) > > muchloveandkissez* > ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:50:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6059 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:50:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 6031 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:50:49 -0000 Received: from law-f169.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.232) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:50:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 53276 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 20:50:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402205019.53275.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.162.49.156 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:50:18 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.162.49.156] From: "Mandi Girl" To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: im so confused Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:50:18 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I use to be suicidal. I thought that I'd be doing the world a favor by killing myself. I went to therapy for a couple of years. I ODed one night, and I was put in a mental hospital. I came in at 4:00am, so I had no idea what to expect because some kid was telling me that the staff was going to kill me. I woke up to the conversations of normal teenagers. Some had tragic experiences and they weren't able to talk about them -- too much pain. I listened to a girl complain about being alive, and then it hit me, what is she complaining about. Someone must care about us to put us in here to get help. Listening to her made me realize how stupid I was to think that live is useless. I don't criticize people for contemplating suicide, but I don't agree with it. A good friend of mine tried to kill herself recently. She ran into the street and got hit by two cars. She always comes to me when it's too late. I then realized how many people whould be affected by her death. Maybe people who want to commit suicide are selfish; I think they are just blinded to reality. They need to see what is really there. If you think a friend is contemplating suicide, talk to them or help them get professional help, but don't wait because it might be serious. Aaron, your right people should enjoy what they have, but not everyone realizes how lucky they are. Let's educate. Keep smiling. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 20:52:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7300 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 20:52:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 7291 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 20:52:11 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 20:52:11 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 9KPHa06692; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:50:58 -0500 (EST) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:50:58 EST Subject: Re: NRR: have you heard this song? To: LXC@crai.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kitana3737@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk nooo. it was NOT kurt vonnegut. trust me. i looked it up. :) but its still great :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:02:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15187 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:02:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 15159 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:02:21 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:02:21 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vBFOa23327 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:00:58 -0500 (EST) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <86a9a6d7.24368a0a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:00:58 EST Subject: NRR: Track Id To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone name this song for me and let me know if its available on any mix cd's. The track goes a little something like this. " You dont even know me, You say that Im not living right, " Anyone? Thanks so much. Peace M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:13:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28232 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:13:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 28224 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:13:15 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:13:15 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vLYAa06116; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:12:38 -0500 (EST) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <2963634b.24368cc6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:12:38 EST Subject: Re: NRR: Track Id To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/2/99 4:02:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, BigM009@aol.com writes: << The track goes a little something like this. " You dont even know me, You say that Im not living right, " >> this track is by Armand Van Heldan featuring Duane Harden and the track is called "You Don't Know Me". its featured on single and on his ep "2Future4U" on ffrr recordings...good luck finding it ...ooOO)-DJMEGATRON-(OOoo... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:13:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28902 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:13:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 28893 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:13:53 -0000 Received: from f278.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.169) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:13:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 10500 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 21:13:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402211326.10499.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.31.5.234 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:13:24 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.31.5.234] From: "Digital Devil" To: WWoodliff@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: THE HISTORY OF OUR SCENE Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:13:24 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was there-It was at one of the armorys-I think her name was Star or something like that. Did you catch a couple of the cops smoking out in back chillout area? Those were the days... Sees yous at The Gathering- Raf >Dose anybody remember I think maybe it was Tribal Funks 2 or 3 year Tony was >just finishing his set (he rocked it as usual) so I decided to go out and get >some fresh air when this ominous sound of a helicopter started thundering out >from the speakers. Something in the air changed and I new I had to get right >back to the decks. As soon as I got there everything went silent and this >tekno diva goddess came out and started singing accapela, it blew me and >everyone else away....At the end of her song she broke out into "We are >Family" Chills go straight up my spine and then as if that was not enough Dan >comes in and starts scratching beats over her voice in time with the song The >crowed went berserk everyone in there looked like the Cheshire cat with a >smile from ear to ear. And then it all creshendows with him dropping this >fatt brake beat over her voice. My body was fully exsosted from dancing to >Tony's vinyl weaving mastery but I found some reserves and kept it going >through the rest of the set. Its just one of those moments in our history >that I will never forget. I hope it brings back some good memories for some >of you out there. > >Much love: JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:16:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 472 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:16:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 454 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:16:28 -0000 Received: from web103.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:16:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402211631.12764.rocketmail@web103.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web103.yahoomail.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:16:31 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:16:31 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: NRR: Random thought to a random question To: Nuku , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "Help! It's The Hair Bear Bunch" http://www.dfcom.freeserve.co.uk/hbw/hairbear/index.htm I'm Soooo bored. =Þ Ahhh....the cartoonexpress. such memories. ;) <> Anyone ever see "Hell goes to Frogtown" with Roddy Piper? *HUGZ* pat Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:17:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1324 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:17:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 1298 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:17:27 -0000 Received: from law-f156.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.219) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:17:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 8375 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 21:17:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402211700.8374.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:17:00 PST X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: have you heard this song? Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:17:00 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That really is a cool song. My friend played it for me a while ago. The things he says are funny but some most definately true. love and happiness sarah >From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com >Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com >To: SFraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: NRR: have you heard this song? >Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:18:05 EST > >Hey has anyone heard the song "Everyone is free to wear sunscreen." on the >radio lately? The first time I heard it I thought it was a comerical or >something, but it's got some pretty touching stuff in it. Not too great >musically speaking, but emotionally pleasing. Especially the line, "Dance, >even if you have no where to do it but your living room." > Have a safe weekend! > > hugs ns'tuff, > tha tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:21:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5124 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:21:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 5106 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:21:56 -0000 Received: from tele.visi.com (HELO mail-out.visi.com) (209.98.98.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:21:56 -0000 Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8214E1F831 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:21:53 -0600 (CST) Received: (from diogenes@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06996 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:21:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:21:53 -0600 From: Alex To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: have you heard this song? Message-ID: <19990402152152.J15374@isis.visi.com> References: <731449d7.2435bb1d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <731449d7.2435bb1d@aol.com>; from TeKnODiVa@aol.com on Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 01:18:05AM -0500 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, thats a pretty cool song. i like the part where he says "don't read beauty magazines. they will only make you feel ugly!" did anyone else think the music in the background sounded like the intro song to northern exposure? god i loved that show. oh well, that song kindof reminded my of william s burroughs' "words of advice for young people" anyone else know what i'm talking about??? ;) -alex On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 01:18:05AM -0500, TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > Hey has anyone heard the song "Everyone is free to wear sunscreen." on the > radio lately? The first time I heard it I thought it was a comerical or > something, but it's got some pretty touching stuff in it. Not too great > musically speaking, but emotionally pleasing. Especially the line, "Dance, > even if you have no where to do it but your living room." > Have a safe weekend! > > hugs ns'tuff, > tha tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:23:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5964 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:23:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5941 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:23:04 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:23:04 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vJHMa29412 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:21:52 -0500 (EST) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: <8ffd4f6f.24368ef0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:21:52 EST Subject: UG vs Mas? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey guys! My stepsister asked me a question today: Becuase I was telling her about FGF= . "What's is Underground and what's so different?" This was the first time I really thought about this question and I had a=20 really hard time explaining it to her. And this is the kind of person who=20 really is not into about feeling the music, coming together as one and all=20 that other spiritual stuff. But don't get the wrong impression, she is a=20 very nice girl. So if we put all that stuff aside.. What's the difference between an Underground vs. Massives? Any thoughts would be appreciated. PS> I'm sure this subject has been brought up before, sorry. ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 *P*L*U*R*=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:24:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6819 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:23:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6787 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:23:56 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:23:56 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vWVCa21224 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:21:46 -0500 (EST) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: <6eda35de.24368eea@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:21:46 EST Subject: Re: Feel Good Friday DJ LineUp (bsp) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/2/99 6:14:41 AM, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com writes: <<10 p.m. till 8 a.m. @ an all New VIRGIN East Bay Location>> Hey, did the time change?? Wasn't it 9pm?? ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:40:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15227 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:40:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 15209 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:40:25 -0000 Received: from mercury.hypersurf.com (206.40.40.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:40:25 -0000 Received: from kaotic.hypersurf.com (PortSJ32.sj.hypersurf.com [206.40.43.32]) by mercury.hypersurf.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA06249; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:33:46 GMT From: "Jenn the kaotic 1" To: , Subject: RE: pre-ComeUnity dinner anyone??? Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:58:55 -0800 Message-ID: <003001be7d54$01bde6a0$492b28ce@kaotic.hypersurf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <922988005.27419.393@excite.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah that sounds good to me. What time and where, huh? kaotic > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of leslie.ayres@excite.com > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 9:33 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: pre-ComeUnity dinner anyone??? > > > I make it a plan to always to go ComeUnity... which, if you > haven't been, is > a monthly put on the first Wednesday of every month at 1015 Folsom... > > it's been happening for over six years, and I've been going for > most of that > time.... and what I love about it is that it's a true mix of clubbers, > ravers, weirdos, dancers, drinkers, whatever.... > > and the music is what i love most.... the djs are garth, jeno and > simon..... > groovy-assed progressive house (they're the Wicked crew, but the music at > ComeUnity is a little brighter than Wicked).... occasionally a guest, and > they do something in the basement but i never make it down there. > > (after all, it's a weeknight, so I get there early, 10:30-ish, while the > dancefloor is empty... and leave around 12:30 when it's getting > crowded and > it's time for me to get some sleep before work in the morning)... > > anyway -- next Wednesday, I'm having dinner ahead of time with > Messiah/Karsten and Byroni, and hopefully some more of you over-21 > househeads who wanna hang out and then get some solid dancing in.... > > anyone interested? john lee, howz about you??? d for dinner i'm thinking > maybe of Bucca di Beppo, which is a loud family-style Italian > place a block > away from 1015... > > anyone interested? > > leslie > > > > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:41:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16052 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:41:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16036 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:41:27 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:41:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402214138.7115.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web135.yahoomail.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:41:38 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:41:38 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: New Track to ID To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well seeing how everyone is asking for tracks and all. How about this you. I hear it all the time it goes like this: The drums are like and a little here and there. Oh yea, there is all this and the BELLS how can you forget the BELLS and the Piano AWHHH the Piano is sooo soothing. ;) HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!!!!!!!! *HUGZ* pat Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:47:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22325 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:47:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 22176 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:47:45 -0000 Received: from web708.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:47:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402214745.21476.rocketmail@web708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.145] by web708.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:47:45 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:47:45 -0800 (PST) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: BSP: Chemistry @ ClubECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The Best daytime Sunday Party in the San Jose area. Chemistry is a daytime party, noon-2am, occuring Sunday April 4 (Easter Sunday). DJ list features DJ Sara, Gianni, Harry Who?, Rick Preston, EverSoul, Girl Friday, Moda (live set!), DFunkt, etc. etc., and the man who'll keep you trance-fixed, Doctor Bubble. Details are on the calendar and events listing. (21+, sorry!) If you live in the area, *please* check this out (free b4 5pm!). Those of you who went to Altruism know how nice the space is in the daytime! I'll C U there, if not at FGF and The Gathering! peace, === *lol* to all, happy raver alex Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:48:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22856 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:48:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 22765 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:48:01 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:48:01 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA31194 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:47:58 -0800 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:50:51 -0800 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB905@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: SF Raver Subject: RE: New Track to ID Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:50:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i was wondering (have been for months now) who does the track "god is a dj"?? anyone? anyone? bueller?? eric j -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Seaton [mailto:montereypat@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:42 PM To: SF Raver Subject: NRR: New Track to ID Well seeing how everyone is asking for tracks and all. How about this you. I hear it all the time it goes like this: The drums are like and a little here and there. Oh yea, there is all this and the BELLS how can you forget the BELLS and the Piano AWHHH the Piano is sooo soothing. ;) HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!!!!!!!! *HUGZ* pat Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:48:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23780 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:48:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> Received: (qmail 23607 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:48:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO europa.ikonic.com) (205.139.115.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:48:24 -0000 Received: from khong ([205.139.115.160]) by europa.ikonic.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11965) with SMTP id AAA110 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:52:08 -0800 X-Sender: ki@cloudfactory.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 13:43:59 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Ki Subject: nrr- if you've received spam from... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, if you've received spam from ray vonie at Feel Good Entertainment last week... and you have the spam still in your mailbox, please write me privately!! thanks! Ki From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:58:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29905 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:58:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 29886 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:58:03 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:58:03 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA30408; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:57:59 -0800 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:56:26 -0800 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB906@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'happy2rave@yahoo.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Chemistry @ ClubECCO Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:56:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think it starts at 4pm (not 12 noon like normal). eric j -----Original Message----- From: Happy Raver [mailto:happy2rave@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:48 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: Chemistry @ ClubECCO The Best daytime Sunday Party in the San Jose area. Chemistry is a daytime party, noon-2am, occuring Sunday April 4 (Easter Sunday). DJ list features DJ Sara, Gianni, Harry Who?, Rick Preston, EverSoul, Girl Friday, Moda (live set!), DFunkt, etc. etc., and the man who'll keep you trance-fixed, Doctor Bubble. Details are on the calendar and events listing. (21+, sorry!) If you live in the area, *please* check this out (free b4 5pm!). Those of you who went to Altruism know how nice the space is in the daytime! I'll C U there, if not at FGF and The Gathering! peace, === *lol* to all, happy raver alex Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 21:58:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 687 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 21:58:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 679 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 21:58:31 -0000 Received: from web709.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 21:58:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402215953.18026.rocketmail@web709.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.11] by web709.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 13:59:53 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:59:53 -0800 (PST) From: mike bolger Subject: do you even like yourself ? To: BluSnday@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well said. Rollins had some really good insight on hating someone; you are what you eat, you are who you fuck, and you are who you hate. your enemies define you just as much as your friends do. if you hate someone you're giving them too much; too much time, too much passion, too much energy. living well is the best revenge. if you really want to get back at someone, out live them, out earn them, have more fun than them, be happier than them. you think this guy even likes himself ? he's a bored lonely guy living in his own private idaho that's pushing your buttons. he aint making weekend plans with his partners, he's not talking dirty to any of his girlfriends, he's scoring points and getting sympathy from sfraves. big man. that's like shooting puppies in a barrel. thing is, if this guy was it bit more creative or charasmatic, he could have met people by now. people could have talked to him at parties or been invited over to his place ((that he rents from his parents)) this guy could have gone John Wayne Gacy on people. the hippies that Manson conned into his cult were no where near as gulliable as the plur ravers of today. that's the lesson that i get everytime i deleate one of this guys unread posts : there are assholes out there, on the bus, at parties, at work, online. some harmless and some evil motherfuckers. develop survival skills to deal with them without damaging yourself. you really want to hurt this guy ? have fun this weekend. --- BluSnday@aol.com wrote: > For some people, there is no greater satisfaction > than winning their own > game. We're all playing Jon's game whether we like > it or not; even I'm > making a move with this post. It's a demented > version of chess, and how do > you win? Strategy. You don't go moving your pieces > without first sizing up > the current situation and considering your future > options. If you bulldoze > through all your lesser pieces, there's nothing left > to protect your king. > And in a game where neither side considers or cares > about their next move, > the only way to win is to be more ignorant than your > opponent. Welcome to > the past few weeks here on SFR. > > For the most part, people who make every attempt to > anger others are simply > looking for attention... duh... it makes them feel > important. It makes them > feel bigger. Booting this unintelligent fool from > the list will only add to > his feeling of superiority: he got you so riled up > that you reacted. And > that's what he's looking to do. Why give this > dullard what he wants? > > Think before you act... don't necessarily ignore him > (silence accomplishes > very little), but keep a few things in mind before > you make a kamikaze move > in the spur of the moment: remember that this person > is simply less of a > human being than the rest of us. He's insignificant, > and in the grand scheme > of things, he's about as important as what goes down > the drain after you wash > your dishes. His self confidence is probably so low > he needs to feed of the > anger and misery of others to feel powerful. > Remember that little kid in > elementary school that used to pick on all the other > little kids because he > had no friends of his own and that was the only way > he could manage to > interact with others? Well here he is 15 years > later. > > Don't give cadence to his pointless babbling and > mindless chatter. We're all > better than that. And he's not. > > *steph* > Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 22:00:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1972 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 22:00:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1948 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 22:00:06 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 22:00:06 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vNQBa13041 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:57:39 -0500 (EST) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:57:39 EST Subject: QUIT GIVING HIM WHAT HE WANTS! Think about it. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm very dissapointed in you people. Have you actually bought anything that has come out of his mouth? He isn't being serious. He isn't seeing a shrink. Both Atheisjon's at the two different accounts ARE the same guy. He may be racist, but he's only doing it on the list for ATTENTION. He's fucking with you all. He's taken some very *touchy* debates such as racism, and suicide, and makes jokes about them to get us going. And now, probably exactly what he wanted, he's turned us on each other. Don't be fucking stupid, ignore Atheistjon. Because he obviously hasn't a life, and right now you have givin' him something very interesting to do. He's sitting back and LAUGHING at all of this. I saw through his lame "jokes", why can't you? Attention is what he wants, and attention is what he is getting... Atheistjon, get a hobby. Or a girlfriend (or boyfriend if that's what you prefer), and grow up. It got old real quick. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 22:05:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5967 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 22:05:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 5952 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 22:05:55 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 22:05:55 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id nQNQa11664; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:02:43 -0500 (EST) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <98da3066.24369883@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:02:43 EST Subject: Re: New Track to ID To: EricJ@foxracing.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kitana3737@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/2/99 4:48:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, EricJ@foxracing.com writes: << i was wondering (have been for months now) who does the track "god is a dj"?? >> yeah..!! i know something [for once :oB] its faithless :) muchlove ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 22:18:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14405 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 22:18:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14378 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 22:18:14 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 22:18:14 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA02126; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:16:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990402141553.03ad9de0@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:16:13 -0800 To: Eric Jones , SF Raver From: binary fineboy Subject: RE: New Track to ID In-Reply-To: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB905@exchange1.foxracing .com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk faithless At 01:50 PM 4/2/99 , Eric Jones wrote: >i was wondering (have been for months now) who does the track "god is a >dj"?? anyone? anyone? bueller?? >eric j > >-----Original Message----- >From: Patrick Seaton [mailto:montereypat@yahoo.com] >Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:42 PM >To: SF Raver >Subject: NRR: New Track to ID > > >Well seeing how everyone is asking for tracks and all. How about this >you. I hear it all the time it goes like this: > >The drums are like and a little > here and there. Oh yea, there is all this and >the BELLS how can you forget the BELLS and the Piano AWHHH the Piano is >sooo soothing. ;) > > > >HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!!!!!!!! > >*HUGZ* > pat > > >Do You Yahoo!? > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 22:20:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17307 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 22:20:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 17293 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 22:20:30 -0000 Received: from wya-oe20.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.85) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 22:20:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 17012 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 22:20:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402222003.17011.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.149.106 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:20:03 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.179.149.106] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: atheizm and suicide Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:20:03 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk more and more this list is turning into a psychiatrist visit. people have all sorts of problems and personal dilemma's. this list is a good forum for having people share their own experience's and talk about ways to resolve issues. BUT........ some of the topics honestly should be taking up with professional doctors and not left to the masses on the list. would anyone like advice from a mass posted email? email is a terrific way to share a thought, but it's often (too often) misconstrued, and one sided issues are flamed for days. my thoughts: if it's a truly life-defining moment, please get some help from close friends and family, and not use the list for your own well being. in a time of need, 50 responses (mostly fighting from one response) will not help you. i honestly think that posting to this list can create more trauma than good. hak urban_assault[99] info:408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_as From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 22:24:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19899 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 22:24:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 19889 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 22:24:48 -0000 Received: from galvatron.vile.org (root@209.31.32.128) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 22:24:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (nick@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by galvatron.vile.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25269 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:24:48 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:24:47 -0800 (PST) From: Nick To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: To everyone that is carrying on this ridiculous "Gas-Out" Concept Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to re-post a great analysis of this "idea". Again please remember this is all in good-humor and is not meant to offend anyone. It just looks at this situation from a logical point of view. I apologize for the formatting but I am on a Linux mailer and copying from netscape sometimes doesn't always turn out well..... Claim: We should participate in a one-day "GAS OUT" to force down the price of gasoline. Status: No. Example: [Collected on the Internet, 1999] THE GREAT AMERICAN "GAS OUT" It's time we did something about the price of gasoline in America! We are all sick and tired of high prices when there are literally millions of gallons in storage. Know what I found out? If there was just ONE day when no one purchased any gasoline, prices would drop drastically. The so-called oil cartel has decided to slow production by some 2 million barrels per day to drive up the price. I have decided to see how many Americans we can get to NOT BUY ANY GASOLINE on one particular day! Let's have a GAS OUT! Do not buy any gasoline on APRIL 30, 1999!!!!! Buy on Thursday before, or Saturday after. Do not buy any gasoline on FRIDAY, APRIL 30, 1999. Wanna help? Send this message to everyone you know. Ask them to do the same. All we need is a few million to participate in order to make a difference. Origins: If anything could make us long for another good toxin scare, it's something this absurd. Short of things to complain about? Let's drag out that old bugaboo, the price of gasoline. Everybody uses gasoline, so this is something we should all care about, right? Listen up: gasoline prices have been falling steadily since 1990. Gasoline prices recently hit their lowest levels (adjusted for inflation) in thirty years. (In fact, in December 1998, the price of crude oil and retail gasoline fell to historic lows.) Gasoline is far cheaper in the USA than in Europe or Japan (or most other parts of the world). And we should be protesting this condition? Gasoline prices are higher than usual in some parts of the country at this very moment (although the message cited above doesn't specify a locale), but not simply because some "cartel" has decided to "slow production" to "drive up the price" of gasoline. OPEC did recently cut production to try to reduce a global glut of crude oil, which drove the price of gasoline up about 8 cents per gallon. In California, however, prices are high right now mainly because of recent problems at several refineries, including an explosion that completely shut down a Tosco Corp. refinery near San Francisco at the end of February -- a facility that produced 10% of the state's refined oil. And whenever supplies are tight, market speculation temporarily drives prices up even higher. So, if we all refrain from buying gasoline on one day, that'll show 'em, right? What are we supposed to accomplishing by not buying gasoline on one particular day? Not buying gasoline will convince OPEC to increase oil production? Not buying gasoline will speed up the process of getting a damaged refinery back on line? Are we supposed to be saying that if "they" don't lower their prices, we'll stop buying their product? We're all going be buying gasoline the day before or the day after the "gas out," so it's not like their bottom line will suffer -- wouldn't this threat be better demonstrated by our actually not buying their product for a while, rather than just shifting the day on which we purchase it? We've been through gasoline crises before, and experience has shown that the only time we stop buying gasoline is when there isn't any to buy. We doubt the "oil cartel" is going to be much impressed by a one-day "gas out." Bottom line: if you want the price of gasoline to fall, the best thing you can do is wait. Save your protests for things that really matter. Instead, how about spending a day making people aware of ways to use less gasoline, or making them aware of cleaner or more efficient energy sources? Whatever you do, please don't send this message to everyone you know. Last updated: 31 March 1999 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 22:26:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21310 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 22:26:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 21289 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 22:26:38 -0000 Received: from web117.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 22:26:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402222653.6174.rocketmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web117.yahoomail.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:26:53 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:26:53 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: GATHERING_Meeting Spots To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Most meeting spots are too much a common are with too many people. This makes it hard to find unknown ppl. Let's try a uncommon spot. How about the BACK RIGHT CORNER of the main room. Most ppl in the corners are not too animated so it would be easier to see someone looking around for someone. If the room is of an odd shape, go from the DJ straight out to the back wall. Turn right and go to the first corner. It will be like following directions to a Rave. ;) As for times, multiple times are best. I can never remember to watch the clock, so it will give peeps like me a chance to be there at least once. So how about on EVEN HOURS 12, 2, 4, and 6? If all else fails, I'll be in a pair of BLK/WHT Zebra Striped pants with REALLY big bottoms. They stand out. I'll porl' be in the JUNGLE Room a lot, so if you see me, come up and say, "HI" and if I know of anyone I met earlier is around I can point them out. I'll be the "Pointman." heehee *HUGZ* pat Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 22:34:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27213 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 22:34:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 27203 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 22:34:56 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 22:34:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA09963; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:34:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:34:47 -0800 (PST) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: Nick cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: To everyone that is carrying on this ridiculous "Gas-Out" Concept In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>>Word<<< to Nick's post. Not buying gas for a day changes nothing. Not USING gas for a day would. Think about it... the business they lost on Friday would have to come back Saturday for another fill'er'up. Ironic how we can bomb civilians to punish governments halfway around the world, starve entire nations with sanctions (you think the governments go hungry?), people are serving sentences and losing property they own because they smoke pot, and people don't do dick... but bump up the price of gas by a couple dimes, and you've got grass roots activism. Kinda disgusting if you look at it right. "Give me convenience or give me death" - Dead Kennedys Peace, AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 22:43:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2238 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 22:43:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 2215 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 22:42:59 -0000 Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 22:42:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402224326.7877.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:43:26 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:43:26 -0800 (PST) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: colostamy@yahoo.com Subject: Re: NRR: To everyone that is carrying on this ridiculous "Gas-Out" Concept To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Exactly. What do you think that whole thing in Kuwait a few years back was all about, peace? Hah! I am telling you, the line between peace and politics is about as definable as the line between most the people on the list and Corky from life goes on. The problem with society nowadays is we somehow gained control of natural selection. Steve =) --- AndyW wrote: > > >>>Word<<< to Nick's post. > > Not buying gas for a day changes nothing. Not USING > gas for a day would. > Think about it... the business they lost on Friday > would have to come back > Saturday for another fill'er'up. > > Ironic how we can bomb civilians to punish > governments halfway around the > world, starve entire nations with sanctions (you > think the governments go > hungry?), people are serving sentences and losing > property they own > because they smoke pot, and people don't do dick... > but bump up the price > of gas by a couple dimes, and you've got grass roots > activism. > > Kinda disgusting if you look at it right. > > "Give me convenience or give me death" > - Dead Kennedys > > Peace, > AndyW > > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 22:59:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10135 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 22:59:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 10122 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 22:59:48 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 22:59:48 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D68Z3PKX; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:59:29 EST To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 01:17:22 -0800 Subject: Re: THE HISTORY OF OUR SCENE Message-ID: <19990314.011724.-219291.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 7-8,16-30,32-109 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of FREEDOM, I think it was the 3rd or 4th year Freedom, anyways it was in '95. While wondering around with my dust mask, getting really dirty at that horse arena, I heard this really weird sound coming out of the sounsystem. I couldn't quite put my finder on it, but it sounded kinda like, techno? It was TECHNO! Jon Williams was playing TECHNO at Freedom!!! Doesn't seem like a big deal now, but at the time, it was unheard of to hear techno at that kinda party. It didn't happen! I thought, 'It CAN be done!!" Oh sure, you may have heard it before then, at relativaly SMALL undergrounds, but never in my raving history prior to Freedom '95, did I hear techno on a system that big and a party that big. So after that, I went out and bought all the records he played that I was too afraid to buy. Richie Hawtin's remix of System 7's "Alpha Wave", any Mike Ink rekkid I could find, ANYTHING on P-Rhythm or Missle, and burried all my Bassex and Sorted rekkids in the backyard!! Now thanx to that bald-headed bastard, I'm stuck doing this several years later. Thanx alot. hehe... l l l V <<-MegaHertZ->> <> http://www.MHz.nu 415-395-8448 We eat candy ravers for breakfast... On Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:21:31 PST "sHaWn ." writes: > >Speaking of Tony, which Freedom was it, it was at the old race track >thing, and during Tony's set(he was going off) Mark John's was doing >the >visuals and out of no where this freaky looking indian face comes on >the >giant screen and there was an eye at the other side but i forget what > >words kept going over and over on the screen. That was a great moment > >and every one I talk to that remembers that always call it the >Freedom >with the freaky Indian. They should have the next Freedom back at the > >old place, those roads were just a little to crazy last time. > > > > >> >>Dose anybody remember I think maybe it was Tribal Funks 2 or 3 year >Tony was >>just finishing his set (he rocked it as usual) so I decided to go out > >and get >>some fresh air when this ominous sound of a helicopter started >thundering out >>from the speakers. Something in the air changed and I new I had to >get >right >>back to the decks. As soon as I got there everything went silent and > >this >>tekno diva goddess came out and started singing accapela, it blew me > >and >>everyone else away....At the end of her song she broke out into "We >are >>Family" Chills go straight up my spine and then as if that was not >enough Dan >>comes in and starts scratching beats over her voice in time with the > >song The >>crowed went berserk everyone in there looked like the Cheshire cat >with a >>smile from ear to ear. And then it all creshendows with him dropping > >this >>fatt brake beat over her voice. My body was fully exsosted from >dancing to >>Tony's vinyl weaving mastery but I found some reserves and kept it >going >>through the rest of the set. Its just one of those moments in our >history >>that I will never forget. I hope it brings back some good memories >for >some >>of you out there. >> >>Much love: JonPaul > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 23:06:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13685 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 23:06:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 13674 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 23:06:40 -0000 Received: from law-f153.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 23:06:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 72346 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 1999 23:06:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402230613.72345.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.138.7.175 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:06:11 PST X-Originating-IP: [128.138.7.175] From: ". Venus ." To: OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: hi, i ruined this list by being a kid. nice to meet you. Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:06:11 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey kids, and yes, when I say kids I mean all y'all. We are all party "kids" age should not deny anyone from feeling like they belong in this scene. Of all the scenes that you can choose to be a part of this is one that I would like to claim as being respectful of such meaningless stupid catagories such as age differences. I am 20 years old and have been partying for five years. I know what is is like to be on both sides of the scale, I am not by any means saying that I am an old wise woman, but I sometimes feel old because I have been here for so long and I feel looked down upon. I sometime feel like people are saying "doesn't she have something better to do with her life, like going to school or something." When I was 15 people would say "what kind of parents does a kid like that have, that lets her go to parties and do drugs." Well, I do go to school now and have job and NO I don't have anything better to do. When I was young, I had excellent parents and have much respect that they let me grow up in this scene, with so much love and support for most of my life's endevors. I love this shit and it shouldn't make a difference if you are 40 or 14, you can love it just as much if you have been parting for 2 months as 20 years. A bunch of my very best friends in the world are 15, 16, 17 years old and I love them to death. They are like my second family. If people are going to be judgemental about age, I feel very sorry for thier closed minds, because my life has been gretaly improved because of the "kids" that I know. Please welcome the "kids" we need them, they are the next generation of what the "old school ravers" have spent so many years cultivating and caring for. Welcome them and be happy that we have a new generation, be happy that the are here to carry on the "LEGACY" :) peace out, venus D A N C E M E T O T H E E N D O F L O V E From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 23:17:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19824 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 23:17:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 19816 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 23:17:57 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 23:17:57 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id iJPGa06116; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:02:52 -0500 (EST) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: <65137388.2436a69c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:02:52 EST Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? To: clatterbox@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: Oct1faith@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey my friend an list want-to-be DJs, If I was you (an I was a longtime ago)I would do these thing-(i teach DJ all the time) 1. Start hangout at the club or event you want to spin at.Let them get to know you an they will feel that you understand what they are trying to do an may give you an chance. 2. Give away tapes like there is no tomorrow.People need to know how you sound before even givin you a chance. 3. Ask your friends to let you DJ at thier party for free. Most people want money right away but that is the wrong way of doing it.Remember you are NEW I don't care if you can mix you ass off,playing for a crowd is harder than playing for your bedroom wall =).......an afcourse if you mess up you are OUT. 4.Ask to open ,most DJs don't like to do the first hour an half so they will give it up. REMEMBER...don't play like it is primetime.Let your mix tape show them that.Just show them that you can read a crowd an most important set the mood of the night. these tip will help you get a job in the future but most of all help you perfect you craft as a DJ. ...I WOULD KNOW BECAUSE I A THE GODFATHER OF THE SF CLUB SCENE.... ..........HAHAAHHAHAHA........ok ,got carried away there...=) peace an good luck, DJ Blackstone Blackstone Productions/club Faith From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 23:19:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21289 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 23:19:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 21261 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 23:19:22 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 23:19:22 -0000 Received: from wack (bow-107-112.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.112]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18935 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:19:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990402152619.00ae8e20@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: aweck@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:26:49 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Andrew Weck Subject: Re: **(Pacific/JL.bsp)Derrick Carter, 4.3.99** In-Reply-To: <10180a6f.2435c9d5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn this 21 age-limit on every event here!! I want to see Derrick Carter!!! {sigh - another 2 years to go} At 02:20 AM 4/2/99 -0500, you wrote: >What's a Jack Move? > >This Saturday night, April 3rd, the Sea of Aries will reach high tide as >Pacific and the Justice League Sound System bring you Jack Move. > >Featuring(on 3 decks): >Derrick Carter(first sf appearance in 2 yrs.) >Galen(pacific) >Monty Luke(justice league) >Solar(pacific) > >Joe Rice & Kamahele(justice league 2x4) >The J-Bird(pacific) >Jon Hardy(red ant, austrailia) > >21 & up, please. Pre-sale tickets are available now at Primal Records, >Berkeley(510.548.8511) and Tweekin Records in SF(415.626.6995). They are $15 >and moving like hotcakes on a butter platter, babay! > >For more info, please dial the JLSS or Pacific Info lines at 415.705.0586 & >415.292.3240. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 23:31:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28419 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 23:31:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 28188 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 23:31:13 -0000 Received: from www.bass-station.com (HELO bass-station.com) (206.111.131.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 23:31:13 -0000 Received: from [192.168.129.81] (206.111.131.80) by bass-station.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:25:58 -0800 X-Sender: ethan@206.111.131.66 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:30:52 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Ethan Miller Subject: BSP: RhythMethod Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Much techno in the house at RhythMethod tonite. Come get dented =) Zeel --> Plateshifter --> Alex Windsor --> Ethan in that order. Also, my last regularlry scheduled apperance at RhythMethod for a while. Hope to see ya all there! 10p-2a, 21+, $3. Il Pirata, 16th St & Potrero, SF. http://www.bass-station.com/rm/ 415.270.3940 take it easy ethan -- You're only paranoid if they're not really watching you... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 02 23:46:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6227 invoked by uid 6000); 2 Apr 1999 23:46:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 6219 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 23:46:16 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 23:46:16 -0000 From: "vipassana" Subject: Gathering sold out? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@wamth.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 15:46:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone confirm the rumor that all 5k gatering tickets are sold out???? Vipassana From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 00:21:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20450 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 00:21:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20419 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 00:21:11 -0000 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (17.254.0.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 00:21:11 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA32302 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:18:33 -0800 Received: from scv4.apple.com (scv4.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (mailgate2.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:18:22 -0800 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv4.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA46948; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199904030017.QAA46948@scv4.apple.com> Subject: Re: Gathering sold out? Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:18:21 -0800 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "vipassana" , "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just bought tix @ S. Grooves? So, there's hope ! bbong On 4/2/99 3:46 PM vipassana wrote: >Can anyone confirm the rumor that all 5k gatering tickets >are sold out???? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 00:32:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25954 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 00:32:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25939 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 00:32:28 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 00:32:28 -0000 From: "vipassana" Subject: BSP:cots,more tickets heading to t&j factory...... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:32:24 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk We are heading up to t&j factory to leave more tickets.... Hope to see all of your bright and shinny faces tomorrow. Please call the vm if you have a problem getting tickets, 415-835-3144 matt :-o} From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 00:41:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 433 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 00:41:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 415 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 00:41:25 -0000 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 00:41:25 -0000 Received: from gpxl.earthlink.net (1Cust54.tnt22.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.254.230.54]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28163; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:41:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <009f01be7d6a$090ced00$0201a8c0@earthlink.net> From: "Gerlando Piro" To: , Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:36:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That set is ( or was ) available at Solid Grooves. DJ Dan Live at Tribal Funk. -G. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:38 AM Subject: (no subject) >Dose anybody remember I think maybe it was Tribal Funks 2 or 3 year Tony was >just finishing his set (he rocked it as usual) so I decided to go out and get >some fresh air when this ominous sound of a helicopter started thundering out >from the speakers. Something in the air changed and I new I had to get right >back to the decks. As soon as I got there everything went silent and this >tekno diva goddess came out and started singing accapela, it blew me and >everyone else away....At the end of her song she broke out into "We are >Family" Chills go straight up my spine and then as if that was not enough Dan >comes in and starts scratching beats over her voice in time with the song The >crowed went berserk everyone in there looked like the Cheshire cat with a >smile from ear to ear. And then it all creshendows with him dropping this >fatt brake beat over her voice. My body was fully exsosted from dancing to >Tony's vinyl weaving mastery but I found some reserves and kept it going >through the rest of the set. Its just one of those moments in our history >that I will never forget. I hope it brings back some good memories for some >of you out there. > >Much love: JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 00:52:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5477 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 00:52:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5468 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 00:52:44 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 00:52:44 -0000 Received: from nbjay (209-239-201-78.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.78]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA04024; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:52:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <021201be7d6a$70b41cd0$14019696@nbjay> From: "Jay" To: "Patrick Seaton" , "SF Raver" References: <19990402214138.7115.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: New Track to ID Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:39:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > The drums are like and a little > here and there. Oh yea, there is all this and > the BELLS how can you forget the BELLS and the Piano AWHHH the Piano is > sooo soothing. ;) Ohhhh... yeah, that is "Blue" by Narcotik (available on Platipus). You described it really well, I can hear it in my head now... ;) Love & Music Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 01:11:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13450 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 01:11:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 13439 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 01:11:17 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 01:11:17 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa004UZ; Fri Apr 2 17:08:01 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa18755; 2 Apr 99 17:05 PST Message-ID: <37056931.F62F173A@sco.com> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:04:49 -0800 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BigM009@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Track Id References: <86a9a6d7.24368a0a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You don't know me - Armand van Helden ...got to no. 1 in the UK charts for a week back in January. May have made some UK compliations by now. Lesley p.s got mail from a friend she's head of press Strictly Rythm UK - apparently one of the really difficult jobs she had in Miami was to go suit shopping with Duane Harden....... I wanna job like that..... BigM009@aol.com wrote: > > Can anyone name this song for me and let me know if its available on any mix > cd's. > > The track goes a little something like this. " You dont even know me, You > say that Im not living right, " > > Anyone? Thanks so much. > > Peace M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 01:23:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17705 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 01:23:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 17692 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 01:23:41 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 01:23:41 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa004dp; Fri Apr 2 17:18:35 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa19232; 2 Apr 99 17:14 PST Message-ID: <37056B80.DD75D550@sco.com> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:14:40 -0800 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: happy kids CC: Carrie Noot , SF Raves Mailing List Subject: Re: NRR: Don't Buy Gas on Friday 4/2/99 (fwd) References: <3704689C.4F8007CA@happykidsproductions.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm sorry but I can't get into this, Americans are spoilt rotten when it comes to petrol (gas) prices. Practically every country in Europe has a government which whacks ridiculous taxes on the stuff. When I left last year it was 65p per litre which is 2.95GBP a gallon - and converting that makes it the equivilant of 4.86 dollars a gallon. I'll start complaining when it's that high. We should all be riding bikes anyway. Lesley happy kids wrote: > > you know what i heard!?!? i heard from someone watching the news that in > the next year or two, gas prices will reach 2.5 to 3 dollars a gallon... > > i will have long bought my own bart train by then. > > -hki > > Carrie Noot wrote: > > > > ok well i know there was supposed to be one later in april, but i > > guess there's another one. i saw gas today for 1.87 so i'm down for > > this shit. support the cause! > > > > carrie > > Carrie Anne Noot > > cnoot@kuci.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GAS OUT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE GREAT "GAS OUT" > > > > > It's time we did something about the price > > > > > of gasoline in Northern California! We are all sick and > > > > > tired of high prices when there are literally > > > > > millions of gallons in storage. > > > > > Know what I found out? If there was just > > > > > ONE day when no one purchased any > > > > > gasoline, prices would drop drastically. > > > > > The so-called oil cartel has decided to > > > > > slow production by some 2 million barrels > > > > > per day to drive up the price. I have decided > > > > > to see how many Northern Californians we can get > > > > > to NOT BUY ANY GASOLINE on one > > > > > particular day! > > > > > Let's have a GAS OUT! Do not buy any > > > > > gasoline on FRIDAY APRIL 2, 1999!!!!! > > > > > Buy on Thursday before, or Saturday after. > > > > > Do not buy any gasoline on FRIDAY, > > > > > APRIL 2, 1999. > > > > > Wanna help? Send this message to > > > > > everyone you know. Ask them to do the same. > > > > > All we need is a few million to participate in > > > > > order to make a difference. > > > > > Let me know how many you will send out. > > > > > We CAN make a difference. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > http://www.INVESTools.com > > Sandra Horwitz INVESTools, Inc. > > Director of Finance 3698 Haven Avenue > > (650) 482-3050 #223 Suite A > > fax (650) 482-3060 Redwood City, CA 94063 > > > >  > > -- > me: ian@happykidsproductions.org > > us: http://happykidsproductions.org <--'scuse the mess, still in > progress > > life, love, laughter, and bombtracks - these things are grand From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 01:29:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21018 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 01:29:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 21010 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 01:29:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 01:29:25 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id AF79179F00E4; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:31:37 -0800 From: "Rick" To: "SFRaves" Subject: track id Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:20:28 -0800 Message-ID: <001201be7d70$29136a60$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk denis leary talking about crack, kind of echo-y. builds when he screams about take my penis away. titled, something like 7 hours in a restroom, or bathroom or something. kind of trancey techno. can anyone help me out? your jedi bitch, jedi666boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 01:34:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23343 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 01:34:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 23335 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 01:34:32 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 01:34:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (smilez@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24721; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:34:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from smilez@elephant.zo.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:34:19 -0800 (PST) From: Christina Pensinger To: Bbong cc: vipassana , SFRaves Subject: Re: Gathering sold out? In-Reply-To: <199904030017.QAA46948@scv4.apple.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just called solid grooves. They are all out. : ( they said that admission was cheaper at the door anyways and it shouldn't be sold out. On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Bbong wrote: > I just bought tix @ S. Grooves? So, there's hope ! > > bbong > > On 4/2/99 3:46 PM vipassana wrote: > > >Can anyone confirm the rumor that all 5k gatering tickets > >are sold out???? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 01:37:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24649 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 01:37:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 24634 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 01:37:21 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 01:37:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (smilez@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24754 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:37:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from smilez@elephant.zo.com) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:37:20 -0800 (PST) From: Christina Pensinger To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Chemistry @ ClubECCO In-Reply-To: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB906@exchange1.foxracing.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk chemistry starts at 4 and is free before 5. hope to see ya guys there On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Eric Jones wrote: > i think it starts at 4pm (not 12 noon like normal). > eric j > > -----Original Message----- > From: Happy Raver [mailto:happy2rave@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:48 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: BSP: Chemistry @ ClubECCO > > > The Best daytime Sunday Party in the San Jose area. > > Chemistry is a daytime party, noon-2am, occuring Sunday > April 4 (Easter Sunday). DJ list features DJ Sara, > Gianni, Harry Who?, Rick Preston, EverSoul, Girl > Friday, Moda (live set!), DFunkt, etc. etc., and the > man who'll keep you trance-fixed, Doctor Bubble. > > Details are on the calendar and events listing. (21+, > sorry!) > > If you live in the area, *please* check this out (free > b4 5pm!). Those of you who went to Altruism know how > nice the space is in the daytime! > > I'll C U there, if not at FGF and The Gathering! > > peace, > === > *lol* to all, > happy raver alex > > Do You Yahoo!? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 02:13:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6471 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 02:13:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 6456 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 02:13:33 -0000 Received: from web218.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 02:13:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990403021310.14303.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [171.133.216.5] by web218.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 18:13:10 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:13:10 -0800 (PST) From: Meotch SFO Subject: Thump Radio To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings All! tune in on sunday to hear MARS and MYSTRE on 90.3fm KUSF! (forgive any cross-list-posting redundancy ;) ) for the past year or so, myself and 3 friends have been working on starting an all electronica radio station here in SF. admittedly, we are a ways away from having our own station, but we are making great progress everyday. part of that progress has been the procurement of a weekly radio show on 90.3fm KUSF (Sundays - 2pm). IT STARTS THIS SUNDAY, EASTER SUNDAY!! Needless to say we are really pumped about it and can't wait for you all to listen in and enjoy this wonderful music that is so close to all our hearts, yet is ignored by the large corporate ignoramuses that currently run radio around the country. i am proud to present Cybertrance our first week from Mars and Mystre of Frequency-8. tune in the 8th Frequency this sunday as it is broadcast through the air of SF right into your ears! Come back next week and check out Vajra (Blue Room Americas), or the next week with Tim (CCC), or the next week with Dutch (Area 51). in essence, put down your CDs, your tapes, your MDs, your vinyl, your DATs and let us bring some of the best of electronic music available straight to your head, free of charge and full of energy! i want you to know that we are doing this for you, and us, and all other open minded people that are sick of the tired old corporate radio shit that is clogging up our airwaves! we are calling our first show, and first month, RADIO RESURRECTION. i loved radio as a kid, and now i NEVER listen to it anymore. this easter sunday, we are going to bring radio back from the dead! as i said before, this is for you, and if you want something, or want us to stop doing something that you find annoying, please let us know! we look forward to some amazing shows from both local talent and globally known artists. if you are a dj and want to spin for us, please contact us! if you know of an amazing DJ anywhere in the world, please contact us. keep in mind that for now we have but an hour show, once a week. however, that will change and we will take the radio waves back from the corporate assholes and release this beautiful music from the confines of cds, vinyl, dats, etc, back into the universe from which it came. wow, longer than expected, but as you can see, i am excited! if you read this far, bless ya! tune in and enjoy. every week may not your exact cup of tea, but we are going to bust our butts to make sure its 10000 better than anything else on the radio! listen in and learn about some music that may be new to you. we're going to have brief interviews during the radio show, but for the real deal, check out our website at www.thump-radio.com - it's obviously a work in progress, but we think you'll enjoy it more and more as time goes on. that is all, i think. please give us your support, comments, and criticisms at brian@thump-radio.com. also, feel free to call us in the studio during the show at 751-KUSF. i promise that my heart and soul is in this. and while every month will feature trance, look forward to the best in cybertrance, techno, psybreaks, psytechno, house, ambient, drum'n'bass, industrial, hardcore and everything in between! MUSIC FOR THE NEW MILLENIUM! peace and light, -Brian Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 02:29:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10453 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 02:29:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10420 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 02:29:28 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 02:29:28 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vSRBa05852; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:28:22 -0500 (EST) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:28:22 EST Subject: Re: *No Trainspot Zone* To: brian@hyperreal.org CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: Tekno313@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/2/99 9:02:05 AM, brian@hyperreal.org writes: >Yet another reason not to have an AOL account, I guess. If I can say >something controversial which causes people to complain to someone else >who can yank my account... whoa. > No, well, I think I may have mischaracterized...any complaints that are lodged are investigated first, then a decision is made; unless the person that is offended is someone with an internal AOL account. In that case, it is in fact possible to get kicked off almost instantly. I am in no way defending AOL; I only use this account because it's free and convienent! monty From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 02:56:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19779 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 02:56:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 19754 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 02:56:18 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 02:56:18 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25646 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:56:17 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: Feel Good Friday: CANCELLED!!!! Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:53:15 -0500 Message-ID: <01be7d63$f9af4480$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yup sorry folks it's cancelled. I just called the voicemail. It just got busted up by the PD. Evidently someone leaked out some info to the police. They said that they didn't want that sorta stuff in their town.That sucks but I guess thats the risk of the underground. latz.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 03:07:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23409 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 03:07:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 23397 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 03:07:09 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 03:07:09 -0000 Received: from Naomi0211@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vRTAa22869 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:05:16 -0500 (EST) From: Naomi0211@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:05:16 EST Subject: FGF--Location? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Naomi0211@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know that the party was cancelled, but does anyone know where it WAS going to be? I'm sorry Vlad & Jeannine, that really sucks for you guys. And I was really planning on going too!! I couldn't believe it when I heard the voice mail!! But you sound STRONG, Vlad!! It's going to be okay!! Keep the Faith, Naomi Thompson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 03:13:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26301 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 03:13:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 26281 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 03:13:10 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 03:13:10 -0000 Received: from KidOnix@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 9VORa16302; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:09:45 -0500 (EST) From: KidOnix@aol.com Message-ID: <6f153433.2436e079@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:09:45 EST Subject: Re: Feel Good Friday: CANCELLED!!!! To: chrisle@uclink.berkeley.edu, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: KidOnix@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn this sux.. what else is going on tonight??? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 03:21:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29206 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 03:21:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 29198 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 03:21:46 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 03:21:46 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA25759 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:21:43 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: Re: Feel Good Friday: CANCELLED!!!! Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:18:42 -0500 Message-ID: <01be7d67$878b2820$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I appreciate the people who were trying to throw this event together, but they really should have known better than to post it up here. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 03:24:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1510 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 03:24:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1346 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 03:24:47 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 03:24:47 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3WXFa00902 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:20:30 -0500 (EST) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:20:30 EST Subject: Re: Feel Good Friday: CANCELLED!!!! To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/2/99 6:56:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, chrisle@uclink.berkeley.edu writes: << Yup sorry folks it's cancelled. I just called the voicemail. It just got busted up by the PD. Evidently someone leaked out some info to the police. They said that they didn't want that sorta stuff in their town.That sucks but I guess thats the risk of the underground. >> Yes..>I spent all day setting up for this party and I am fuming, as I know the whole FEel Good crew is.. It's complete bullshit adn I'll talk more about it in the mornign but It's a complete waste of a permitted, safe location. I'm really upset that someone would tip off the cops like this.. it would have been a beautiful party. hugs, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 03:27:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2614 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 03:27:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 2593 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 03:27:02 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 03:27:02 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id uQDGa00385; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:22:26 -0500 (EST) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:22:26 EST Subject: Re: NRR: Don't Buy Gas on Friday 4/2/99 (fwd) To: happykids@happykidsproductions.org, cnoot@falco.kuci.uci.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Speedex33@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For anyone who would like to catch a glimpse at the near future, rent Strange Days and take out the SQUID thing!:) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 03:30:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3987 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 03:30:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 3961 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 03:30:48 -0000 Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 03:30:48 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB605-14.splitrock.net [209.252.6.14]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29412; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:30:43 -0500 Message-ID: <37058AF5.1770BFEA@prodigy.net> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 19:28:53 -0800 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick CC: SFRaves Subject: Re: track id References: <001201be7d70$29136a60$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Chopper - 7 hours in a bathroom - Neo Records Hard to find, I've been looking for months -peace- Joe Lanzon Rick wrote: > denis leary talking about crack, kind of echo-y. > builds when he screams about take my penis away. > titled, something like 7 hours in a restroom, or bathroom > or something. kind of trancey techno. can anyone help > me out? > > your jedi bitch, > jedi666boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 03:32:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5413 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 03:32:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 5405 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 03:32:00 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 03:32:00 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id iSQMa10330; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:05:21 -0500 (EST) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <878f6974.2436df71@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:05:21 EST Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? To: Oct1faith@aol.com, clatterbox@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kitana3737@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/2/99 6:18:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, Oct1faith@aol.com writes: << REMEMBER...don't play like it is primetime.Let your mix tape show them that.Just show them that you can read a crowd an most important set the mood of the night. >> there was something about that in mixer... anyone else read it? :) interesting [not that i`m a dj or anything....] okay! bye. muchloveandkissez* ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 03:46:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9434 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 03:46:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9417 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 03:46:45 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 03:46:45 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vBENa13757 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:45:42 -0500 (EST) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:45:42 EST Subject: Thomas Trouble in SoCal? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Speedex33@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, does anyone know how i can get ahold of where the raves are at down in southern california? I saw Thomas Trouble at the oakland airport today and he said he was playing in Santa Barbra tonight. I want to find out where it's at, but the SoCal Raves page looks like it hasn't be updated since October of last year! Anyone know where a SFRaver can get info about SoCalRaves??? SCott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 04:28:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20187 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 04:28:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 20169 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 04:28:27 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 04:28:27 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vASTa00385 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:27:54 -0500 (EST) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <4cdfaae5.2436f2ca@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:27:54 EST Subject: ok if FGF Outdoor doesn't go ON. . .WHAT THEn?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HEY neone out there who knows of nething fun or nething that'll pass the time. . . send me some 411??? please and I appreciate it! !thanx :) angel (even thought most of you are prolly out and cant help me! argh!! im frustrated!hehe) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 04:29:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20943 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 04:29:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 20935 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 04:29:50 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 04:29:50 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA28732; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:29:48 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: , Subject: Re: Thomas Trouble in SoCal? Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:26:44 -0500 Message-ID: <01be7d71$0922bac0$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk go to www.erave.org . -----Original Message----- From: Speedex33@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:46 PM Subject: Thomas Trouble in SoCal? >Hey, does anyone know how i can get ahold of where the raves are at down in >southern california? I saw Thomas Trouble at the oakland airport today and >he said he was playing in Santa Barbra tonight. I want to find out where >it's at, but the SoCal Raves page looks like it hasn't be updated since >October of last year! Anyone know where a SFRaver can get info about >SoCalRaves??? > >SCott > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 05:15:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29855 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 05:15:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 29843 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 05:14:57 -0000 Received: from f33.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 05:14:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 52367 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 1999 05:14:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990403051436.52366.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 21:14:35 PST X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: breakbeat@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net, waynerad@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR Re: atheism Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 21:14:35 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Ahh the inevitable link between physics and philosophy, yum. I'll add one > other thing since my last post could have been yanked out of a text (no it > wasn't, but it could have been). Many religious people will argue that > science is just another form of religion, another form of faith. There is > something to parts of this arguement, though in it's totality i disagree. > In the shortest and simplest way i can think to put it, the difference lies > in the difference between pulling a number out of a hat and an educated > guess. How is this related? I feel science and religion do have one very > important similarity. They are both a search for closure, a search for a > *limit*. I have great respect for science because as it relates to the > practical world it's the best thing we got, but as an ideological concept, > I believe it has the same obsticles. I notice you mention "speed of light > is the universal speed limit". Statements like this are a form of god. > They are a boundry, something we feel we can accept and form a base from. > Granted, it is a calculated boundry, it is not pulled out of a hat, but I > think us scientists choose to make such statements to satisfy the same > inate urge for answers that a Christian fills by claiming faith. What > about a quark? If I remember correctly (which I admit I may not) > mathematical theory demonstrates a quark to move faster than light. Even > if this is wrong, I think we will find something faster than light, I don't > believe in limits, and that is my religion =;) Very intewesting post :) My points in response... 1. If you recall my original statement about "the speed of light is the universal speed limit", you'll recall I also said, "as far as anyone can tell". This is a very significant bit -- it indicates how conclusions in science are always drawn from the real world, from experimental data. As such, they are not "a form of god", they are not dogma, because it's always concievable the theories will change in the future because someone finds data that doesn't fit the theory. 2. When I said, "the speed of light is the universal speed limit", I was assuming it's human beings we're talking about. But, granted, I didn't say that, so you got me :) Anyway, yes subatomic particles can exceed the speed of light; when they do this, they go backward in time. And I don't mean quarks, I mean entire electrons, photons, etc. But since we observe time going forward, we see antiparticles instead of particles going backward in time. 3. There is no point number 3. 4. In my mind, there's a difference between "limits" of what's known and "closure". Specifically, there can be no closure, because there will always be a limit. I have this concept, I call it the "why-limit". You know how little kids, every time they ask a question that starts with "why?" and you answer it, they just take your answer and ask "why?" again? Well, at some point, you can't answer "why" any more. That's the "why-limit". Today, quantum physics *is* the why-limit for humanity. If you ask why the sky is blue, just to take one example, after the usual spiel about atmosphere density and light scattering, you wind up talking about electrons and photons interacting according to the rules of quantum physics. Then, when you ask "why?", there's no answer. You're stuck. No one knows why. No one knows how the universe can be as mindbogglingly weird as quantum physics says. It just is. You do the experiments, this weird stuff happens. No one knows why. 5. If you want closure, that is, the answer to the question of the meaning of human life, evolutionary biology gives you the answer. The answer is: humans exist to make more humans. That's it. Everything else comes from this answer. Why we have arms and legs and stereoscopic color vision, why we get married, get jealous, find certain things "beautiful" or "ugly", like to watch sports and movies, drive cars, listen to music, have social hierarchies, corporate politics, and so on. It just happens to be an answer nobody likes, and it explains nobody likes it, too. And if you ask "why" the world works this way, sorry, that answer is beyond the why-limit. > symmetry Wayne ---------- >From: breakbeat@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net >To: "Wayne Radinsky" >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR Re: atheism >Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 02:34:22 -0800 > >Ahh the inevitable link between physics and philosophy, yum. I'll add one >other thing since my last post could have been yanked out of a text (no it >wasn't, but it could have been). Many religious people will argue that >science is just another form of religion, another form of faith. There is >somethign to parts of this arguement, though in it's totality i disagree. >In the shortest and simplest way i can think to put it, the difference lies >in the difference between pulling a number out of a hat and an educated >guess. How is this related? I feel science and religion do have one very >important similarity. They are both a search for closure, a search for a >*limit*. I have great respect for science because as it relates to the >practical world it's the best thing we got, but as an ideological concept, >I believe it has the same obsticles. I notice you mention "speed of light >is the universal speed limit". Statements like this are a form of god. >They are a boundry, something we feel we can accept and form a base from. >Granted, it is a calculated boundry, it is not pulled out of a hat, but I >think us scientists choose to make such statements to satisfy the same >inate urge for answers that a Christian fills by claiming faith. What >about a quark? If I remember correctly (which I admit I may not) >mathematical theory demonstrates a quark to move faster than light. Even >if this is wrong, I think we will find something faster than light, I don't >believe in limits, and that is my religion =;) > >symmetry > > > >At 10:45 PM 3/30/99 PST, you wrote: >> >>Alright, I'm an atheist, I just decided this today. You see, >>I used to be indecisive. But now, I'm not sure. >> >>Anyway, here's the bottom line: when you let go of a ball it >>falls. When you shoot photons through holes that are smaller >>than their light wavelength, you get a wave interference >>pattern. And so on. The laws of physics are what they are -- >>we observe them every day. But we don't know **why** they are >>this way. Nobody knows why gravity exists. Nobody knows >>why life is governed by natural selection. Nobody knows >>why the speed of light is the universal speed limit. Things >>"just are" this way, at least as far as anyone can tell. >> >>So you can go on all day and all night with these sort of >>"what happens when an irrestible force meets an immovable >>object" kind of questions. The fact is, nobody has ever >>seen an irrestible force or an immovable object. So who cares? >>Is there a God? Most people think of God as someone who thinks >>like a human being, and I'm pretty sure the universo wasn't >>created by a human being. But it's here, apparently, and one must >>assume it got here somehow. >> >>Alex is pretty much right on with his "Who's to say anything is >>real?" line of thought. It's only as real as you experience >>it. This is the paradox of consciousness and it shows up in >>quantum physics in the Schroedinger's Cat paradox. What if the >>cat was a human being, would that change the paradox? You all >>should study quantum physics and then you'll understand what >>I'm talking about. It'll make this mystery go away and replace >>it with a big pile of new ones that will really make your brain >>flip. >> >>Sorry Psifire, I know you said shouldn't talk about quantum >>physics on the list, but damn, it's irrestible sometimes -- >>unless there's an immovable object in the way. >> >>waynebrain >>---------- >>>From: "Alknod !" >>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>Subject: Re: atheism >>>Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:56:18 PST >>> >>>I am humbled by your reply, damn good point to make, now can we go on >>to >>>define the undefinable, nothing? I tried this already and met much >>>resistance as I am sure to do so here. I was saying how can we define >>>nothing when nothing in and of itself does not exsist, only as a >>>consept, we rely on this consept of so-called nothing in order to give >>>meaning to something that does not exsist. But then if nothing exsists >>>then do we really exsist as well, or are we merely in the imagination >>of >>>ourselves and who we think we are? Who's to say anything is real? Who >>>told you the grass was green? Could be purple for all we know, some >>fool >>>desided a long time ago to play a mean trick on the rest of the human >>>race and said hey, that looks red, but its really yellow! >>> >>>Just another thought, stupid as it may seem.... >>> >>> >>> Alex..................Tired >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: Breakbeat@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net >>>>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>>Subject: atheism >>>>Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:07:48 -0800 >>>> >>>>>First of all, Atheism is an oxyMORON because belief in the devil or >>>>>belief in anything other than a god or the god or whatever would >>still >>>>>be considered a theium of some sorts. >>>> >>>>hrrm, believing in nothing cannot be compared to believing in >>>something, to >>>>do so creates a sort of circular logic, which while difficult to >>>combat, is >>>>pretty devoid of any substantial argument. People who believe in "god >>>or >>>>whatever" are making a assertion regarding the existance of a tangible >>>>entity, since "nothing" cannot be considered a tangible entity, >>>believing >>>>in nothing is not actually an assertion, but is rather a denile of >>>whatever >>>>is commonly considered to exist. So, if an atheist *asserts* that >>>there is >>>>no god, they are really only denying the conceptions of god held by >>>other >>>>people, since they harbor no conceptions of god of there own. If they >>>did >>>>they would cease to be atheists. In truth you could say that an >>>Atheist is >>>>not really denying god, but peoples conception of god, since an >>Atheist >>>>cannot deny a conception of God that hasn't been concieved, to do so >>>would >>>>be ignorance. >>>> >>>>Any thoughts? Perhaps if some good philosophical discussion can come >>>about >>>>from AtheistJohn's nick, he isn't totally useless afterall =:) >>>> >>>>symmetry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 05:58:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9493 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 05:58:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 9483 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 05:58:34 -0000 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (206.13.28.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 05:58:34 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (adsl-216-102-221-51.dsl.pacbell.net [216.102.221.51]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id VAA29900; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:53:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3705AF37.5EFFEC37@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:03:36 -0800 From: ambien@pacbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: colostamy@yahoo.com, Gerlando , SFR Subject: Re: You guys dont get it. RE: LAST STRAW: NOT RAVE RELATED SUICIDE OF BURTON References: <19990402190101.23282.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree with both of you. i don't think anyone on SFR wants AtheistJon to remain on the list. it's clear that AtheistJon's only intent is to fuck with SFR. booting him would be a blanket filter for everyone. unfortunantly, this would only be an immediate solution. there will always be people like this (or atheistjon under a new name). the pragmatic solution would be to ignore posts like this in the future. hit delete. set up a filter. don't give them the attention by starting a thread. we can all send lara personal messages if something seems inappropriate. after receiving x number of complaints, she could kick the person off the list. this would be democratic and make her job a lot easier. -ambien Gerlando Piro wrote: I can't believe this person hasn't gotten the boot a long time ago. I don't care how much everyone out there believes that this list is supposed to be open to everybody. Jon shows a complete lack of respect and compassion for EVERYONE on this list. He is not going to mellow out with time and he is NEVER going to contribute anything positive to the list. I think it's fucking disgrace that he's been allowed on the list for as long as he has with all the people he's pissed off. Can't someone get it together and get rid of him? Sorry.. but it's gone way past just filtering out his messages.. they shouldn't get posted in the first place. The jokes on us.. cause he's getting his laughs, and we get frustrated and do NOTHING!.. Creamy Goodness wrote: > He will just come back, as somebody else. Lara doesnt > have an indicator to tell her who has been on the list > before when somebody new subscribes. Would you all > like to lock the doors, and just start kicking people > who we dont like? Then where does it end? > > Delete, delete, delete. You cant make this person go > away. You can kick him off a million times, he will > always have a way to get another new email address. > Lara is doing the right thing. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 06:30:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17252 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 06:30:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 17192 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 06:30:13 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 06:30:13 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-131.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.131]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA15425; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:30:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990403050235.00711bf0@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 23:02:35 -0600 To: Oct1faith@aol.com From: Nuku Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You forgot that they should generally toss salads and give out free oral sex to the promoters, organizers and high ppl ... Nuku At 06:02 PM 4/2/99 EST, you wrote: >hey my friend an list want-to-be DJs, >If I was you (an I was a longtime ago)I would do these thing-(i teach DJ all >the time) > >1. Start hangout at the club or event you want to spin at.Let them get to >know you an they will feel that you understand what they are trying to do an >may give you an chance. >2. Give away tapes like there is no tomorrow.People need to know how you >sound before even givin you a chance. >3. Ask your friends to let you DJ at thier party for free. Most people want >money right away but that is the wrong way of doing it.Remember you are NEW >I don't care if you can mix you ass off,playing for a crowd is harder than >playing for your bedroom wall =).......an afcourse if you mess up you are >OUT. >4.Ask to open ,most DJs don't like to do the first hour an half so they will >give it up. >REMEMBER...don't play like it is primetime.Let your mix tape show them >that.Just show them that you can read a crowd an most important set the mood >of the night. > >these tip will help you get a job in the future but most of all help you >perfect you craft as a DJ. >...I WOULD KNOW BECAUSE I A THE GODFATHER OF THE SF CLUB SCENE.... >..........HAHAAHHAHAHA........ok ,got carried away there...=) >peace an good luck, >DJ Blackstone >Blackstone Productions/club Faith > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 08:12:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13460 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 08:12:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 13451 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 08:12:40 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 08:12:40 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vRCMa27121 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 03:12:04 -0500 (EST) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <9ddbfb68.24372754@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 03:12:04 EST Subject: OnToAPositiveThread!..YourSpiritualExpirences@aParty To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BodhiInSF@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK. I think it's time to move on from the threads about racist posts, flamers, AthestJon, censorship, so on, and so forth. I think we need to get back into the positive grove here, and cleanse the air with some positive energy. wHaDa Ya ThiNk? =) So, here's an idea to start a positive thread. ---- The other day, I was talking to a friend on the AOL instant mail about his experience at the F-8 party the other week. Apparently from what he was talking about and from what he was describing about the experiences that he had at the party and truths and insights he discovered that night, he had an awesome personal spiritual experience that really rocked his world and profoundly changed his life. He was very excited about his experience, and I was thrilled and happy that he shared his night with me. He told me how much he missed me and how he loved me too. Wow! I was so touched and happy when he told me those things. It just feels soooo good when someone just tells you without really expecting it how much they love you, and you know that they really mean it, because they are saying it from the depths of their heart. So, here's the thread I'd like to start. How many of you have had experiences like my friend did at a party? Was there a song you heard that put a chill down your spine and caused you to go into an altered state of consciousness, especially if you were sober? Was there a DJ's set that caused you to loose all your inhibitions, and you danced with all your passion? Was there a person or persons that you met, and was it something they or someone else said or did that profanely touched your spirit and enlightened you? What events happened that just rocked your own personal world, and opened your mind up, and caused you to have what could be called a spiritual experience, an experience or experiences that changed your life for the positive? -----YeAHhHhH!!!!!...I can't wait to read them! :) I wish all peace, love, and {{hugs!}] ---Bodhi p.s., I'll share mine later. I just wanted to hear from others first. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 08:27:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18941 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 08:27:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 18933 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 08:27:01 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 08:27:01 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vQVUa20223 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 03:26:21 -0500 (EST) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <33f9b02a.24372aad@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 03:26:21 EST Subject: Re: OnToAPositiveThread!..YourSpiritualExpirences@aParty To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BodhiInSF@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (A corrected post here: Third paragraph from "profane" to "Profound", Opps!) OK. I think it's time to move on from the threads about racist posts, flamers, AthestJon, censorship, so on, and so forth. I think we need to get back into the positive grove here, and cleanse the air with some positive energy. wHaDa Ya ThiNk? =) So, here's an idea to start a positive thread. ---- The other day, I was talking to a friend on the AOL instant mail about his experience at the F-8 party the other week. Apparently from what he was talking about and from what he was describing about the experiences that he had at the party and truths and insights he discovered that night, he had an awesome personal spiritual experience that really rocked his world and profoundly changed his life. He was very excited about his experience, and I was thrilled and happy that he shared his night with me. He told me how much he missed me and how he loved me too. Wow! I was so touched and happy when he told me those things. It just feels soooo good when someone just tells you without really expecting it how much they love you, and you know that they really mean it, because they are saying it from the depths of their heart. So, here's the thread I'd like to start. How many of you have had experiences like my friend did at a party? Was there a song you heard that put a chill down your spine and caused you to go into an altered state of consciousness, especially if you were sober? Was there a DJ's set that caused you to loose all your inhibitions, and you danced with all your passion? Was there a person or persons that you met, and was it something they or someone else said or did that profoundly touched your spirit and enlightened you? What events happened that just rocked your own personal world, and opened your mind up, and caused you to have what could be called a spiritual experience, an experience or experiences that changed your life for the positive? -----YeAHhHhH!!!!!...I can't wait to read them! :) I wish all peace, love, and {{hugs!}] ---Bodhi p.s., I'll share mine later. I just wanted to hear from others first. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 09:46:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23175 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 09:46:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 23167 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 09:46:10 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 09:46:10 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.73) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 01:49:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3705E16D.9EDCAA14@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 01:37:49 -0800 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: YourSpiritualExpirences@aParty References: <9ddbfb68.24372754@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk err, uhh, i started writing about this one, then remembering made me write more, then listening to music, more more more. anyways, i just posted it in a text file so if you want to read mine: http://www.geocities.com:80/PicketFence/4248/spiritual_experience.txt that way i'm not cluttering up everyone's mailbox. and causing hotmail to crash. ;) it's not thaaaat long, but i doubt everyone will read it so there it is. paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 10:15:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29436 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 10:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 29395 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 10:15:08 -0000 Received: from web202.mail.yahoo.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.102) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 10:15:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990403101458.9152.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.19.55.2] by web202.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:14:58 PST Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:14:58 -0800 (PST) From: Garrett James Subject: FS: Dr. Sample + 4mb $165 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am out of food. Hence major bargain coming your way! Dr. Sample, Boss/Roland SP-202 with 4mb expansion card. Retail many hundreds more, going used on usenet for $300 or more (with ram expansion). I sell for $165 INCLUDING the 4MB smartmedia expansion card. Free delivery, includes power cord, manual, and some cool samples! Will deliver to your doorstep if within range of my tank of gas. The thing works great, i just cant afford to keep it. Very cool for the traveling dj that loads up with samples and wants to trigger into their set. I love the thing but have only $5 to last the fortnight and as i said, am out of food. Also very cool if you have no money and want to make experimental music, play live at the lab, or a number of other extracurricular sonic activities. Runs on batteries so when y2k rolls around you will still be pumping out alien style electronic madness give a ring 650.210.9327 if you want. -Garrett Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 10:53:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18777 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 10:53:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18763 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 10:53:47 -0000 Received: from law-f90.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.153) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 10:53:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 48883 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 1999 10:53:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990403105320.48882.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 171.70.118.53 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:53:20 PST X-Originating-IP: [171.70.118.53] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Thank, you, Feel, Goode, :) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:53:20 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know everyone involved has put alot of work into making feel good friday an event to remember. It's a real shame that the City of Freemont had to be so short sighted. I thank Vlad and all of Feel Good entertainment for doing their best. Your effort and good vibes always show in your work. I look forward to your next event and wish the best for all of you who spend your time to make your events the best around. Much props! I hope you're all doing well John B. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 11:36:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25093 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 11:35:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 25081 invoked by uid 233); 3 Apr 1999 11:35:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 18461 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 09:39:39 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 09:39:39 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 580109 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 01:38:13 -0800 Message-ID: <37048FFB.59F422B@warmth.org> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 01:38:03 -0800 From: "Matt @ *warmth*" Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR:warmth list/site back up!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* The warmth list is back up!! to subscribe send a message to talk-on@warmth.org. put whatever you want in the subject or the body. Wait for the conformation e-mail and reply to it and send away..... wham your on!!!!! And for those of you who have e-mail addresses at warmth.org, they should be functional, if you have any problems send an e-mail to matt@warmth.org. Matt (aka vipassana) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 11:37:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25843 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 11:37:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 25835 invoked by uid 233); 3 Apr 1999 11:37:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 22266 invoked from network); 2 Apr 1999 19:53:00 -0000 Received: from mail.tentv.com (HELO mailserver.tentv.com) (207.138.33.36) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 2 Apr 1999 19:53:00 -0000 Received: from [208.236.135.2] by mailserver.tentv.com (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.abup) with ESMTP id ea214270 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:52:42 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990402120245.00967b60@mail.tentv.com> X-Sender: fgreen@mail.tentv.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:02:45 -0800 To: forest@cloudfactory.org From: Forest Green Subject: S I S T E R : A P R I L 3 R D Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Saturday, April 3rd S I S T E R: In the House/Techno room: Ellen Ferrato DJ Dazy (Los Angeles) Forest (technoWest/CloudFactory/Technostate) In the Jungle/Hip-hop Room: Siren (Bassment) XJS DJ Steph (Vinyl Exchange/Brick) Polywog Sound by: Cloud Factory Check: www.xanthoria.com admission: 21+ time: 10 pm - 2 am info line: 415.255.4333 Storyville 1751 Fulton St. (Fulton at Masonic) phone: 415.441.1751 upper haight Hope to see you there! =) F O R E S T G R E E N Video Applications Specialist ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ T E N T V http://www.tentv.com 520 S. El Camino Real, #300 San Mateo, CA. 94402 phone 650.685.1010 x235 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 15:55:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16838 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 15:55:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 16823 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 15:55:17 -0000 Received: from f159.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 15:55:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 96411 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 1999 15:55:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990403155507.96410.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 07:55:06 PST X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:YourSpiritualExpirences@aParty Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 07:55:06 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I had an experience at Quest a few weeks ago...it wasn't really spiritual, but it gave me a really interesting insight into the scene. So, there I am out on the dance floor in the Trance room, I think that Mars was spinning, and the place was PACKED full of bodies. The trance room was the only place at Quest that I really felt a cool vibe, and was it ever there. When 1998 came on, all of a sudden it seemed like every person in the room was synchronized, like all of us were dancing the same dance. And something hit me: we ARE the leading edge. We're the youth movement of our day. Unlike previous ones, we're not out there making ourselves known, we find warehouses and out of the way places to express ourselves through our music. Sure, there are other types of music that everyone else in the world listens to, but the music doesn't bind them together the way it does with us. Anywhere you go in the world, you can find an immediate bond with other ravers. Anyways, it's really really hard for me to explain, and even harder to express through e-mail...but I hope I got a little of my experience through to you. It really made me appriciate the scene and those of us who truly love it even more. Much love and music... Sharpe _ _ / \ ____ / \ / / \ \ \ / \ / \| /\ /\ |/ ---| V |--- /| \ | / |\ / \ \/\/ / \ \__________/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 16:30:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25386 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 16:30:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 25377 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 16:30:46 -0000 Received: from f77.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 16:30:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 1071 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 1999 16:30:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990403163017.1070.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.197.157 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:30:17 PST X-Originating-IP: [205.188.197.157] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Who's Going to "Children of the Sun" tonight? Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:30:17 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello all! Who is going to Children of the Sun tonight? Wanna meet up tonight? In any case, play it safe! *hugs* -Rani :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 16:33:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26531 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 16:33:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 26522 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 16:33:02 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 16:33:02 -0000 Message-id: Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:31:15 -0800 Subject: Free PartyTonight?? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wasn't there a free party in SF tonight? I think they were looking for DJs a few weeks ago. If anyone could email the info to me, it would make me smile. Thank You, AQ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 16:42:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28826 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 16:42:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28818 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 16:42:46 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 16:42:46 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vZUYa24473; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:42:09 -0500 (EST) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <5d1878aa.24379ee1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:42:09 EST Subject: Re: OnToAPositiveThread!..YourSpiritualExpirences@aParty To: BodhiInSF@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah this happened to me at new years resolution on treasure island during dj Abstract's set. he played this bomb ass song that got stuck in my head for months, and its still stuck in there, and that was the most soulful jungle track that made me fall in luv with the scene so much. i have to say that nite was one of the freshest because i met alot of kids there. i went alone because my friend was under 18 (anyone remember the drama behind this party?) and she urged me to go. she was doing me a favor by makin me go alone. ...ooOO)-DJMEGATRON-(OOoo... In a message dated 4/3/99 3:12:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, BodhiInSF@aol.com writes: << So, here's the thread I'd like to start. How many of you have had experiences like my friend did at a party? Was there a song you heard that put a chill down your spine and caused you to go into an altered state of consciousness, especially if you were sober? Was there a DJ's set that caused you to loose all your inhibitions, and you danced with all your passion? Was there a person or persons that you met, and was it something they or someone else said or did that profanely touched your spirit and enlightened you? What events happened that just rocked your own personal world, and opened your mind up, and caused you to have what could be called a spiritual experience, an experience or experiences that changed your life for the positive? -----YeAHhHhH!!!!!...I can't wait to read them! :) >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 17:53:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18706 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 17:53:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 18684 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 17:53:09 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 17:53:09 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3SZFa20223 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:52:26 -0500 (EST) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <5513a5b0.2437af5a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:52:26 EST Subject: Feel Good yesterday.... To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok.. now it's morning and I'm not under a lot of stress and I can bitch about what I wanted to yesterday. Alright... so this location was a beautiful warehouse/icerink spot in the middle of nowhere and it's a facility that is permitted to stay open 24 hours a day (which they have done in the past for all age events such as Broomball and Midnight hockey). ANyways... the people there spend a good several hours decorating and setting up and hooking up lighting systems and hanging banners and whatnot. It really looked beautiful, It would have been an incredible party. So then, about five minutes after we're done setting up the cops come in and start surveying the place. I'm not talking a few cops, I'm talking A LOT of cops and a FIRE TRUCK!!! which there was no need for, especially since they party wasn't starting for a couple hours. WHatever, to make a long story short they scared the owners of the spot into revoking the permits and the party was a no-go. ALL that hard work, all of that special planning for kids that wanted to freaking dance was destroyed by some paranoid idiot and some overbearing police. It's just so incredibly sad that this party couldn't happen. everyone missed seeing the easter bunny and getting easter baskets and seeing jeannie's mom dressed up in a blue wig and fake eyelashes! (So cute) Incredible music, and a BEAUTIFUL location. I'm so dissapointed in this cracking down on the scene... especially since everything the cops were saying was a complete lie. That is my thought for the weekend... fuck the cops. at least I got to meet some SFR kids =) Oh well... I hope you all are having a better beginning to your spring break than me. hugsn'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 17:59:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20027 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 17:59:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 20014 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 17:59:14 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 17:59:14 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3SIHa13470 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:58:19 -0500 (EST) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:58:19 EST Subject: spiritual experiences @parties... To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't know if I've had spiritual experiences as much as I've had magical and powerful ones. The Group hug at the end of the first Innerscense.... one room full of a ton of people hugging and just loving each other. MY FIRST group hug at Area 51, June of '97. SFRavers rock =) Climbing on the roof of CZ at Vibe This! and watching the sunrise with a view of the bay bridge, the berkely campus and a bunch of smiling kids beneath me on the patio. Walking into the main room at my first party and being so overwhelmed that i was finally there that I was just awestruck and in love with the scene to this very day..... There's a lot of special moments, I wouldn't necessarily call them spiritual, but I hold them very close to my heart and they're what make my memories of partying so very special. Hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 19:21:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11814 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 19:21:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 11806 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 19:21:08 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 19:21:08 -0000 From: "vipassana" Subject: Re: Who's Going to "Children of the Sun" tonight? To: "Rani Skye Lefevre" , sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 11:21:03 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hopefully all you ug kiddies down to support our friends at children of the sun!!! last i heard, tickets were still avalible but are running low!! matt On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 08:30:17 PST "Rani Skye Lefevre" wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of > CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > Hello all! Who is going to Children of the Sun tonight? > Wanna meet up > tonight? In any case, play it safe! *hugs* -Rani :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 20:16:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27965 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 20:16:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 27954 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 20:16:41 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 20:16:41 -0000 Received: from BabyChinoZ@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vWGOa12118 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:13:46 -0500 (EST) From: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:13:46 EST Subject: SRR::bout Friday To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok I've already heard some negative things about FG about there partie being closed down and I'd like to just vent and talk. If you have a problem with anything i say talk to me directly. No one else shares ma exact views except me! Big Hugs to EVERYONE ((no matter how small your job)) for setting up FGF. I'll admit i was mad when i heard it was cancled but not at you guys and gals! I had a dream about the set up that you children put up! It was wonderful. So in other words the partie was EXCELLENT! You can't be mad at promoters you can't be mad at the cops. I say you have to stop whining and share some of the blame. You take this and say... "Well what can we learn and what can we do to try and be better next time" For promoters... You don't have to put on a free show for me. Just next time put up some kind of new decorations... something creative. The cops will be cops.... you can't help if they happen to show up or not. They don't understand us so don't expect them to. I've been to about 3 FGE. I must say I have enjoyed everyone to the Nth Degree! No matter how crowded they are. No matter how much I pay. I'm away from the CHAOS of the outside world. I'm not judged. I'm loved. There is so much positive energy at any FGE i go to that i keep coming back. And I'll be the one to say it... FGE is a drug i can't get enough of. Don't listen to anyone else and keep on throwin some of the best parties around. Cause when they are gone they are gone! much love to everyone -tyson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 20:41:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6978 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 20:41:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 6967 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 20:41:30 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 20:41:30 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3DLEa15501 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:40:57 -0500 (EST) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:40:57 EST Subject: *** 6 FlaGs ***** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GREAT PASSOVER AND EASTER~! nOWWWwwWWw nEXT WEEK MOST OF US HAVE SPRING BREAK 99~! AS FOR ME ITS MY LAST HIGH SKOOL SPRING BREAK~! AND WHAT COULD BE BETTER THAN GOIN TO 6 FLAGS AND HAVING FUN?? XACTLY.... SOOOOO I CALLED UP ITS OPEN FROM 10 AM TO 9 PM COST IS $30 AND CHANGE..... BUT ITS SPRING BREAK.....DO WHAT IM DOING ASKING MOMMY AND DADDY FOR $$$$$ I THINK WE ARE ALL GOIN ON THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO EMAIL MYSELF OR SHAAY@ TRIXXXXE4@AOL.COM OR MUSIKMYXTC@AOL.COM WE HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE mWAH* HUGS AND KISSES AND *lIX* AND :::::::::::SLURPSSS::::::: LINZ N SHAAY From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 20:52:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11055 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 20:52:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 11046 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 20:52:42 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 20:52:42 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vYESa26166 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:52:05 -0500 (EST) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: <58c818d9.2437d975@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:52:05 EST Subject: WHAT THE HELL!!! To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok it is spring break and all I wanted to do was party because dammit I deserve it! So, I get all ready and hyped to go to FGF and see everyone and just have a really good time then what! THE LOCATION gets REVOKED uGHHHH! So now I guess I want to go the Gathering. So I hear all the presales are gone and what are they charging at the door ? $30? THAT IS A JOKE. So does anyone know how I can get presales for this party? I need to make up for what happened last nite. -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 20:56:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12418 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 20:56:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 12409 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 20:56:31 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 20:56:31 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vLMKa14877 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:23:00 -0500 (EST) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:23:00 EST Subject: Friday night, a party in san leandro... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey kiddos!! so my friend scott threw this really dope free party last night in san leandro... it was for his friend's birthday... so when we heard about FGFriday getting cancelled (sorry to hear that guys!! i was looking forward to going) and after driving down to the berkely marina, becuz rummors trvel fast in our lil community and from what i understand supossedly there was gonna be a free partty out there.... but i don't know if it went off or not cuz after being down there for a lil bit, we remembered that scott's lil party was last night, so back to san leandro we went... it was in this place where this guy lives, and they all work on old VW bugs outside... we get inside and there is some dope lighting, with blacklights, a store light, a fog machine and a bunch of blacklight art on the walls.... so these guys are going off on 4, and i dont remember who it was, but one of them was named johnathon, and let me tell u, these kids had the whole room jumpin..well, needless to say it turned out to be a good nite last nite..... i hope u all had fun doing whatever you did!!! have a great time at children of the sun and the gathering tonight for those of u going!!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina ps any of you kids happen to be out at this lil party last nite?? i wonder if i met any of ya... =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 21:29:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21276 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 21:29:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 21214 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 21:28:58 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 21:28:58 -0000 Received: from HiSKiD76@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vBKRa22186; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:28:04 -0500 (EST) From: HiSKiD76@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:28:04 EST Subject: Re: Friday night, a party in san leandro... To: MoonChyld1@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: HiSKiD76@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey tina.....yeah yeah i was there at that partie as well......thats cool....i was wondering if anyone else went on the list.....i didnt know whos partie it was but a friend told me about it...so after i heard FGF was cancelled and i didnt want to wait til after 10 to find out if the partie WAS going to go on or not soooooo.....i was on my way to san leandro as well...... it was a tight lil partie tho....i had tons of fun......met some nice ppl who took care of me.....(: was anyone else there thats on the list......???? hey so u know who thru this partie? do they throw more like that ...it was tight and i had fun i would surely do another.....(: loves ceL ps.....hmm i wonder if we did meet.....i was wearing a white hat.....and i was up by the right speaker on the couch with a bunch of other kidds From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 21:50:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26575 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 21:50:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 26567 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 21:50:28 -0000 Received: from web109.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 21:50:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990403215043.7784.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.132.93.53] by web109.yahoomail.com; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:50:43 PST Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:50:43 -0800 (PST) From: PRIME Subject: Last Word To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To the 21+... All I have to say is Derrick Carter and Monty at Jellies(sp???) tonight! If you can make this amazing performance, please do so! And BlueRoom...and Sister!!!! Wicked line-ups! Support good parties and amazing line-ups! === Codename: "PRIME" - adj. of first importance Base(s): Northern California\ Washington, D.C. Style: Atmospherics and Technology-- Hard-banging bliss Team: Mechanized Soul( San Fran./ D.C./ France) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HEAR THE MUSIC NOW!!! http://radiov.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Do You Yahoo!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 21:55:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28185 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 21:55:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 28165 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 21:55:20 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 21:55:20 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vEMHa12812 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:54:07 -0500 (EST) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <58c7effd.2437e7ff@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:54:07 EST Subject: experiences (spiritual or other) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i remember when i was at pangea i was in the trance room and Ryan said MARS was comin on in like 5 minutes. i was like...ok yeah whatever like im gonna be able to tell... and then exactly 5 minutes later i exploded inside. i never used to scream at a party cause i thought i was gonna get someone mad at me <:) but when the first song hit i exploded and i screamed my lungs out and my arms were in the air streatching trying to feel more of the music. and i looked around the dark room and the lasers were peircing everything above us and i could hear people creaming over the music. it was like one huge voice and everyone was with me on this in saying "this is the totally most awesome experience of the nite! and we're gonna revel in it damnit!" i saw people on peoples shoulders dancing in the lasers and everyone stretching like i was. it was incredible. then i remember saying to myself..."so this is why im here" -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 22:02:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 320 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 22:02:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 307 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 22:02:05 -0000 Received: from law-f93.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.156) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 22:02:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 15385 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 1999 22:01:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990403220138.15384.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 14:01:38 PST X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Gathering door prices Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 14:01:38 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk does anyone know for sure how much the tickets at the door are going to be for the gathering tonight? i called the voice mail but it doesn't say. love and happiness sarah From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 03 23:49:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3152 invoked by uid 6000); 3 Apr 1999 23:49:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 3144 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 23:49:46 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 23:49:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (blank@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01490; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blank@elephant.zo.com) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:49:44 -0800 (PST) From: wEirdo To: BodhiInSF@aol.com cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: OnToAPositiveThread!..YourSpiritualExpirences@aParty In-Reply-To: <33f9b02a.24372aad@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I had something of a spiritual experience at the last F8 party. =) I'd go into detail about it, but I'm not sure if the party involved wishes to have it disclosed at the moment. ;D Otherwise, I usually have a wonderful experience at every party I go to. =) Just being allowed the opportunity to be in the company of such wonderful people, great friends and special moments is spiritual enough for me. =D Then again, I do have my fits of spiritual release every now and then. ;) "This is a part of your soul! It's the embodiment of your inner freedom! But in order to TRULY be free, you have to be willing to release it! Set it free! Give a piece of yourself to everyone else in this party so they too can feel the joy of freedom!" ~wEirdo~ <-- "Give it to THAT guy!" - Share Bear responding... ;) "Smile, it's free." ~Grivo (Bruce McCulloch) in { Kids in the Hall's Brain Candy} From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 00:15:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10861 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 00:15:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 10844 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 00:15:38 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 00:15:38 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA10119; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:15:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from ali-ca10-06.ix.netcom.com(209.110.226.70) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010100; Sat Apr 3 18:14:44 1999 Message-ID: <3706AEFB.66EB4697@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:14:51 -0800 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JanetBoy7@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: UG vs Mas? References: <8ffd4f6f.24368ef0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Labels.. Labels.. Labels.. It's all the same when you break it down to it's basic elements. Just assembled a bit differently. But in all reality... They are all just labels and vaguely drawn lines in the sand. The only thing that changes is your perspective over time, because what is underground today, is tomorrow's mainstream... and visa versa. Don't get too hooked up on definitions... because nothing is the same for everyone. Love the Culture... Not the Scene. Just my perspective on it. Keep it mellow, Vlad JanetBoy7@aol.com wrote: > Hey guys! > > My stepsister asked me a question today: Becuase I was telling her about FGF. > > "What's is Underground and what's so different?" > > This was the first time I really thought about this question and I had a > really hard time explaining it to her. And this is the kind of person who > really is not into about feeling the music, coming together as one and all > that other spiritual stuff. But don't get the wrong impression, she is a > very nice girl. > So if we put all that stuff aside.. > > What's the difference between an Underground vs. Massives? > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > PS> I'm sure this subject has been brought up before, sorry. > > ~#*.:•{LoVe JanetBoy}•:.*#~ > > > *P*L*U*R* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 00:16:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11491 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 00:15:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 11482 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 00:15:57 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 00:15:57 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA10127; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:15:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from ali-ca10-06.ix.netcom.com(209.110.226.70) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010106; Sat Apr 3 18:14:56 1999 Message-ID: <3706AF06.B5CF7696@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:15:02 -0800 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wil Hanno CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Thank, you, Feel, Goode, :) References: <19990403105320.48882.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks... That was such a nice thing to say:) And it really means a lot to hear that... cause it makes us work all that much harder to make everyone Feel Good. Much respects... and Keep it mellow, Vlad Wil Hanno wrote: > I know everyone involved has put alot of work into making feel good > friday an event to remember. It's a real shame that the City of Freemont > had to be so short sighted. I thank Vlad and all of Feel Good > entertainment for doing their best. Your effort and good vibes always > show in your work. I look forward to your next event and wish the best > for all of you who spend your time to make your events the best around. > Much props! > > I hope you're all doing well > John B. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 00:38:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21947 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 00:38:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 21930 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 00:38:05 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 00:38:05 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA15740; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:37:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from ali-ca10-06.ix.netcom.com(209.110.226.70) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma015728; Sat Apr 3 18:37:02 1999 Message-ID: <3706B435.7495BABA@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:37:09 -0800 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ki CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: nrr...if you've received spam from... References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh... This really fucking bites me... You're the person that tried to get my netscape account shut down because you got sent an 'unsolicited e-mail' inviting you to Love A-Fair. Man can you ever hold a fucking grudge for receiving a dam e-mail. Is being a cock blocking player hater what you and your whole Cloudfactory Organization are about? Why are you out to screw over other promoters??? You're as bad as the parents out there trying to shut down the parties because they have no control over their children, or the egomaniac cops that screw with promoters for kicks. Are you even on this list... I don't recall seeing any posts from you? Why don't you get your own life, and a better hobby than being a meddling shit disturber. Iv told you already before that Your e-mail address has been removed from my address book, and I even apologized to you privately for bothering you with it... wasn't that enough for you??? Why are you asking others to forward you their e-mails? Trying to make a better case of bullshit because your last attempt to get my account canceled failed? Are you the type of person that has ever kicked someone's ass for being handed a flyer... because what you're doing is no different. Why do you want to play with me like that? Have you even given this much thought?? I let it slide last time, but if you think you can fuck me twice and laugh about it... you need a reality check. And this is the last freebie... the next one won't be. If you got a beef with me, lets hook up and settle things man to man. I'm sure we will come to a quick resolution. Shame and pity on you for calling yourself a raver. Sorry if Im taking this a bit personally... it's just that genocide makes me nervous. Keep it REAL... Vlad Ki wrote: > Hi everyone, > > if you've received spam from ray vonie at Feel Good Entertainment last > week... > and you have the spam still in your mailbox, please write me privately!! > > thanks! > > Ki From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 01:11:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6234 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 01:11:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 6225 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 01:11:27 -0000 Received: from f184.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 01:11:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 81855 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 1999 01:10:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990404011049.81854.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.192.39 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:10:48 PST X-Originating-IP: [205.188.192.39] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Who's Going to children of the sun? Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:10:48 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i don't know! when i called the # a couple of hours ago, it was still friday's message. well, i'm wearing big pants, a navy adidas jacket, a fuzzy winnie-the-pooh backpack, and a soccer t-shirt that says "cupertino" across the front. i hope to meet some of you guys! if i miss you, have a wonderful weekend! *hugs* -rani :) >From: OXnymphXO@aol.com >Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com >To: t4tggr@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Who's Going to "Children of the Sun" tonight? >Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:00:24 EST > >i'm going. where is the meeting spot? actually, before that, where is the >party location? : ) > >alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 01:16:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8687 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 01:16:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 8676 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 01:16:25 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 01:16:25 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vIQIa28281 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:15:41 -0500 (EST) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <9483fdeb.2438173d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:15:41 EST Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Am I the only one who feels life is too short as it is? Vlad, I feel ya man. Peace M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 01:30:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14909 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 01:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 14900 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 01:30:44 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd100.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.164) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 01:30:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 81806 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 1999 01:30:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990404013025.81805.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.219.64.58 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:30:24 PST X-Originating-IP: [205.219.64.58] From: "Hai La" To: blank@zo.com, BodhiInSF@aol.com Cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FGF & OnToAPositiveThread!..YourSpiritualExpirences@aParty Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:30:24 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk to me a spiritual experience is something i remember :) on that, i had one at the last fullmoon i went last summer. so there i was rolling and dancing on the shore, then found myself being led by a guy to a group of friends that i never knew i had :) he asked for my name and i gave it.. "hai, really! cool name.. my name is octavia and welcome to my family.." we all hugged and shared best smiles.. regretfully i didn't remember myself to introduce them to my friends though. anyways, that was my spiritual experience if you ccould call it that.. and i feel bad for the crew of FGF. couldn't imagine all the hard works and a great night gone. our group ended up going to 1015 folsom and met a fun group of peeps. l&hugsss.. hai ----Original Message Follows---- From: wEirdo To: BodhiInSF@aol.com CC: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: OnToAPositiveThread!..YourSpiritualExpirences@aParty Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:49:44 -0800 (PST) I had something of a spiritual experience at the last F8 party. =) I'd go into detail about it, but I'm not sure if the party involved wishes to have it disclosed at the moment. ;D Otherwise, I usually have a wonderful experience at every party I go to. =) Just being allowed the opportunity to be in the company of such wonderful people, great friends and special moments is spiritual enough for me. =D Then again, I do have my fits of spiritual release every now and then. ;) "This is a part of your soul! It's the embodiment of your inner freedom! But in order to TRULY be free, you have to be willing to release it! Set it free! Give a piece of yourself to everyone else in this party so they too can feel the joy of freedom!" ~wEirdo~ <-- "Give it to THAT guy!" - Share Bear responding... ;) "Smile, it's free." ~Grivo (Bruce McCulloch) in { Kids in the Hall's Brain Candy} From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 01:40:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18487 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 01:40:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 18475 invoked by uid 233); 4 Apr 1999 01:40:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 19706 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1999 21:21:46 -0000 Received: from mail2.sirius.com (205.134.253.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 3 Apr 1999 21:21:46 -0000 Received: from [205.134.231.165] (ppp-asfm11--119.sirius.net [205.134.242.119]) by mail2.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA51472 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:21:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:28:49 -0400 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: cbossen@sirius.com (Colin Bossen) Subject: Free partee tonight Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Somehow this didn't get posted... > >Divergence presents >a homestyle house partee >100% free and friendly > >featuring J18 "Reclaim the Street" video documentary >and Djs: > >David Michael, Spundae~ SF >Paulleath, Elotromundo~ San Jose >Chip McClure, Sugar~ SF >Syed, Divergence~ SF > >58 14th St. @ Folsom >10pm to 7am >4.3.99 > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 01:41:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19871 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 01:41:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 19862 invoked by uid 233); 4 Apr 1999 01:41:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 1535 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 00:57:45 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 00:57:45 -0000 Received: from wenet.net (root@ghana-167.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.167]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA10520; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:57:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199904040057.QAA10520@smtp.wenet.net> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:02:00 -0800 From: boing <"b-young"@wenet.net (remove -)> Organization: boingdom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wayne Radinsky CC: breakbeat@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR Re: atheism References: <19990403051436.52366.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the answer lies, of course, in "strings". ;-) this reminds me of Mayday's "strings of life" tunes - are they in anyway inspired by the theory? hm... 8-) b- (aight, i know squat about the theory) Wayne Radinsky wrote: > > > Ahh the inevitable link between physics and philosophy, yum. I'll add > one ... physics like religion > Even > > if this is wrong, I think we will find something faster than light, I > don't > > believe in limits, and that is my religion =;) > > Very intewesting post :) > > My points in response... > > 1. If you recall my original statement about "the speed of light is the > universal > speed limit", you'll recall I also said, "as far as anyone can tell". ... physics vs. religion > > > Wayne > -- "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, and you will have his shoes." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 01:44:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21050 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 01:44:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21040 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 01:44:07 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 01:44:07 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA11219 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:43:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from ali-ca17-61.ix.netcom.com(209.110.228.61) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011174; Sat Apr 3 19:43:13 1999 Message-ID: <3706C3B8.B052AC9E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:43:20 -0800 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: About Feel Good Friday, and other thoughts. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Everyone... I'd like to first thank all the wonderful people that have sent all the encouraging, positive, and supportive e-mails to me. You have really cheered me up. I would also like to apologize to everyone else for Feel Good Friday not happening... We know that a lot of you were looking forward to this, as much as we were looking forward to sharing it with you, and despite all the positive energy that was put forth to make this party.. Things still went really wrong. Our intention was to bring you guys a small, intimate, inexpensive, and incredible party. Like we used to do back in the days before, and to give the whole crew a chance to actually party and enjoy one, instead of running around all night working. But unfortunately Not everyone on this list is here for the same reasons. Have you ever asked yourselves why there are over 400+ subscribers to this list, but only a handful of maybe 80 active posters? Who are all those other subscribers that get this list, and what do they do with the information on it? Well Friday was a perfect example of how easy it is for someone to misuse info off this list and use it to shut down a party by panicking the police into having a knee-jerk reaction and overreacting towards a situation that they felt was a ticking time bomb waiting to explode in their city. The police REALLY thought that it was going to be some sort of insane and out of control mob scene. I guess you can't blame them... they are only cops, and have an obligation to THEIR community... not ours. However... their handling of the situation left much to be proud of. I respect the police when they do their job to prevent crime, but not when they act with discrimination, out of fear, in the mane of crime prevention. It's messed up, and a violation of OUR civil liberties. Innocent first!!! The cops basically told the management : "Hey.. this is what's going on here tonight... and either you do the right thing and pull the plug on this party, or we can pull the plug on YOU" ... Not in these exact words.. but it was just as cut and dry. For those of you that think there is a good legal case here... forget about it... I'm not interested... It's just a big waste of time, and the only people who gain anything from it are the bottom feeder lawyers and it would just bring more negative visibility onto this scene. So I'm not interested. But I just wanted you all to know that we did our best, and tried our hardest to bring everyone together through music and dancing. But some people can't see it for what it is, and can only see it through closed minded blinders as "disrespectful underage drug orgies with overdoses, and aids needle poking" And these people will do whatever it takes to keep their kids from attending these events. Even if it means shutting them all down, so their kids don't have the option to go. And as unbelievable as this sounds... it's happening, and these people are all around us. Even on this list. Your parents may even subscribe to this list to see what you are up to. The police are on this list trying to angle in on illegal activity, and big brother is on this list keeping tabs on everything else. PLEASE... Prove your parents and the media WRONG and party responsibly. Trust me... Not everyone in this scene is as nice as they come across. There are wolves in sheep's clothing here, and they are the destroying this culture by polluting it with drugs, just to come up the 'so called' easy way... BUT Their is no easy way... that's the catch!!! Stop supporting these drug dealers... they are only here to make money and care nothing about you, or the music, or anything but their profit margin. Be smart and realize that your actions effect everyone around you, just like other peoples actions will effect you. And not just at the parties, but in all of life. And pass this information on to people you care about, so that everyone knows what's happening. I love this culture, and have been involved in throwing parties for 8 years... longer that almost every other promoter out here... and to me, this culture is like my own child, that I share the responsibility of raising with other promoters... and It's our duty to protect our children... just the same way that your parents care and want to protect you. So please... Save both your parents and your promoters a lot of grief by doing the right thing by them, because the bottom line is that we all care about your health, and safety. Have a happy Easter everyone, Have a Fun, Safe, and Positive Spring Break, and always keep it Real. Keep it mellow, Vlad From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 01:52:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22894 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 01:52:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22885 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 01:52:00 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 01:52:00 -0000 Received: from [209.209.14.14] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10Tc4q-0005wl-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:51:56 -0800 Message-ID: <000601be7e3d$01767d80$0e0ed1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: Subject: GATHERING Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:46:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Where is the Gathering and how to get there from SJ. I callde the line but he speaks too fast and i dont understand half of it. Max. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 01:59:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26735 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 01:59:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 26727 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 01:59:24 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 01:59:24 -0000 Received: from [209.209.14.14] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10TcC0-00064a-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:59:20 -0800 Message-ID: <001301be7e3e$0a2f59a0$0e0ed1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: Subject: Re: GATHERING Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:54:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone can tell me what other parties are going on today??? plz...plz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 02:09:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 318 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 02:09:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 301 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 02:09:51 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 02:09:51 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vBEZa16315; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:07:36 -0500 (EST) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <382bce79.24382368@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:07:36 EST Subject: Re: Friday night, a party in san leandro... To: HiSKiD76@aol.com, MoonChyld1@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i was there too with a black shirt with a girl with a gun on it and glasses wit hno lenses From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 02:43:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13652 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 02:43:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 13643 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 02:43:55 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 02:43:55 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3ILQa15989 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:43:24 -0500 (EST) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <5e60ce59.24382bcc@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:43:24 EST Subject: Whuts up with gathering ??? dude. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Like, was everyone going ? I'll be there really early just so I can get a ticket if they gots em. Were we gonna all meet by the agua around 1ish ? I'd love to meet some of the people I seem to miss at like every single party I've ever gone to. I'll be wearing blu jeans, white shoes, white gloves, a white hat, a white long sleeve shirt, my laminate thingies (I still neet a new one please mister man sir), and I'll probably have some yellow glowsticks (unless there are cool blacklights) and a white shirt hangin from me belt when I gett all schwetty. I love you all. . . HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 02:50:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15823 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 02:50:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 15814 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 02:50:48 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 02:50:48 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id iMPRa15501; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:36:34 -0500 (EST) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <376ef2ba.24382a32@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:36:34 EST Subject: Re: Who's Going to children of the sun? To: t4tggr@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk they aren't releasing the location until 8:00pm tonight. so are we gonna have a meeting spot or what? this is the first rave i've gotten to go to since i joined the list so i wanna finally meet you guys! get back to me on that ASAP. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 02:51:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16440 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 02:51:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 16431 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 02:51:07 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 02:51:07 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA27101 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:50:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mon-ca8-38.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.102) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027086; Sat Apr 3 20:50:27 1999 Message-ID: <37066881.4079@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:14:09 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: spiritual experiences @parties... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My most wonderful spiritual experience was at Freedom '97. I had danced ever so hard to Stacy Pullen's awe inspiring set and was amazed to see when the sun started coming up that there was a huge mountain behind us with people climbing up on it. It took awhile for me to realize that it wasn't a hullucination but reality. My friend Theresa and I hauled our grubby dusty selves up the mountain...all the way to the top mind you to watch the sun rise. It was soooo beautiful I can't even possibly begin to describe it. Luckily there was some rasta dude up there as well so we had someone to commemorate the momment with a photo. Then Theresa thought we should go down the mountain the back side...hence no trail. I don't know how we ever made it down without killing ourselves or falling going down that thing with both hands full. Once down to the ground and along the trails back to the main area I danced to some fantastic trance. Some english couple came was dancing next to me and had me stand still while the did this polarity/massage thing. I must have been smiling sooo big 'cause when I opened my eyes everybody around me was smiling too. That was certainly the most wonderful, beautiful, spiritual experience in my raving history. It was too bad that Freedom '98 was the exact opposite experience. I also always have spiritual momments walking out of a party into the sun and the calm cool the morning after a party, feeling so free and rejuvinated. I LOVE that about parties. Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 03:32:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 244 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 03:32:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29914 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 03:32:28 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 03:32:28 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3CCMa17037 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:30:21 -0500 (EST) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <70bd04f1.243836cd@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:30:21 EST Subject: Anyone want to go to end-up tomorrow ? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just wondering. If you live within a half hour-45min range of hayward or in frisco somewhere or on the way to frisco. . . do you wanna go to the end-up with me around 12-2 tomorrow ? It's a groovy ass club, everyone there is killer (if you don't mind a variety of people). It's $5 normally, opens at 6am to whenever, has a groovy outside area, a bar, pool table, and it's 21+. Anyway, I'll check my mail in the morn if anyone's interested. And if you're really really nice, I'd probably go totally way hella completely out of my way to find you and pick you up, no matter where you may be. LuVYaLl HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 03:33:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1154 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 03:33:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 1131 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 03:33:27 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 03:33:27 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA22869; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:32:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from ali-ca52-18.ix.netcom.com(209.110.236.210) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma022852; Sat Apr 3 21:32:20 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990403193100.00928e10@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:32:35 -0800 To: GIANNI3333@aol.com From: Greg Sandler Subject: RE: History of the scene....... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Gianni, Did you know that those IF stickers are worth millions?!?!?! Don't you wish you kept yours? No not really, they aren't worth millions but they are a milestone of our scene. That was a gret era!!! Ahhh Memories... Peace and love, Greg = ) At 02:55 AM 4/2/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi everyone, Gianni here. I was reading everyone's posts when I started to >think of the first rave I went to. Some of you might remember it. It was >around 92' I think. I forgot who was playing but it was called TOONTOWN and >it was inside the Fashion Center. It was an unbelievable party. I got my >first "rave" CD there (which I have since lost) it was bye Twitch. I also >remember that they were passing out little stickers that said "IF." Anyway I >was just pondering my thought's and thought I'd share them with you. > > > GIANNI, From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 03:48:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5379 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 03:48:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 5367 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 03:48:35 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 03:48:35 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA24364 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:47:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from ali-ca52-18.ix.netcom.com(209.110.236.210) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma024348; Sat Apr 3 21:47:20 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990403195519.00ad5220@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:56:55 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Late night bsp -> Greg Sandler!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I know it is a little late, but hey better late than never... I am playing at Children of the Sun tonight and would love to see you guys there! I go on @ midnight I think, so I'll meet you on the dance floor!!! Peace and love, Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 04:01:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11331 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 04:01:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 11321 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 04:01:45 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:01:45 -0000 Received: from localhost (spacekid@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02505 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spacekid@elephant.zo.com) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:01:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Langen To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Gathering tonight.. see you there! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For those of you beautiful peeps going to gathering tonight.. see you there! I'll be in the yellow furry pants and green furry bag. Oh, and drive carefully you guys - the weather's gettin' icky. Luv, Ben From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 04:05:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12404 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 04:05:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12392 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 04:05:34 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:05:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (spacekid@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02563; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:05:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spacekid@elephant.zo.com) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:05:31 -0800 (PST) From: Ben Langen To: Aryck46@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Whuts up with gathering ??? dude. . . In-Reply-To: <5e60ce59.24382bcc@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well - 1am is what I heard, but it's from someone who 'heard it from someone who heard it from someone....' - I'll be there at 1am (furry yellow pants, lotsa candy, blahblah.. :) Luvs ya, -Ben On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 Aryck46@aol.com wrote: > Like, was everyone going ? I'll be there really early just so I can > get a ticket if they gots em. > > Were we gonna all meet by the agua around 1ish ? > > I'd love to meet some of the people I seem to miss at like every > single party I've ever gone to. > > I'll be wearing blu jeans, white shoes, white gloves, a white hat, a > white long sleeve shirt, my laminate thingies (I still neet a new one please > mister man sir), and I'll probably have some yellow glowsticks (unless there > are cool blacklights) and a white shirt hangin from me belt when I gett all > schwetty. > > I love you all. . . > > HUGZzzzz > > Aryck > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 04:06:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13554 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 04:06:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 13371 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 04:06:20 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:06:20 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3HRSa17037 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:04:25 -0500 (EST) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:04:25 EST Subject: Raver remedies. . . n tricks of the trade To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any ideas on these. . . I've got a couple simple ones: Does anyonyone ever have problems with their legs or shoulders or anything cramping after a funky fresh night of boogying down >? If you do, this works for me I usually drop like two or 3 potassium gluconate hits before the party and this usually takes care of it. But if you're on a ravathon, you may want to take another couple the next morning too keep you from getting thos wicked ass cramps before you go to bed or in the middle of your next sleep (whenever that may be). Do you ever have really sore feet and knees after dancing ? This is more preventative than anything but i myself wear a nice little neoprene brace and those xtra thick athletic socks when i go get funky with my bad self. Some type of over the counter brace can usually be found in walgreens or lucky or somewhere like big 5. Take care of your joints, they need to last you a lifetime. And believe me, knee surgery ain't a pretty sight (or feel). I try to stay away from ben gay and all that schtuff but it works pretty well also. Also, after a night of like. . . eing or whatever. . . it feels totally groovy. Pin your pants up just enough so you can see about half way up your shoe laces. It doesn't really look that dorky, and you can somewhat avoid all the funky black crusty schtuff that you usually find when you reach daylight. Definately use some sort of shoe protectant on those bad-ass new whatchamacallitz (shoes) you just bought before you go and party. . . and use a ton of it. It's always great to take a couple aspirin before and after a party. Some of you may thank me for it. I personally always wear gloves to parties. It keeps my hands from getting all funked up and I can use the back (clean side) to wipe my brow if needed. I always bring a pen. . . everyone always uses it. I always bring some cheap lighter. . . everyone also uses IT, and most of the time it ends up somewhere other than my pocket before the night is over. Those funky masks with the vicks are cool but don't let too many other people use them if you can. Eye drops are sometimes a godsend, but funky weirded out eye drops that were used by lotsa people and were sitting in this raver dudes pocket all night aren't exactly something you'd want to put anywhere near you. They also tend to help with the super humid smokey air (anyone ever have red eyes for the next week after a party?). The best brand I've used is like Napcom A. . . for allergy. It works in seconds but it costs like $15. I can't stress enough how important getting your load of regular multivitamins, and super load of C and echinacea are. The day before, the day after, and the day after that. It totally works for keeping those funky raver cold things at bay. I'm sure everyone has their tricks. I'll probably remember more later. But it might be cool to put together a little raver handbook just for laughs. And this would be an integral part of it. . . definately. Actually. . . I really good with putting together reports n all. A raver handbook sounds like a blast. Give me some feedback. Free of course. Hell, I work for Lanier. . . one of my accounts is Kinkos in Fremont. I wouldn't have any problem making tons of copies. LuVyAlL Be Safe HUGZzzzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 04:08:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14523 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 04:08:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 14514 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 04:08:10 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:08:10 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id uFPRa09763; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:07:33 -0500 (EST) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:07:33 EST Subject: Re: About Feel Good Friday, and other thoughts. To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Vlad, a truely thoughful post. the stuff you are saying is true... i'm just glad that my parents aren't as extreme as some others. the idea that some would go so far to "protect" their children is inspiring, yet somewhat disturbing. it makes me appreciate how much my parents care, but at the same time recognize that i am an adult, and they may not agree with my decisions, but for the most part respect my right to make them on my own. for those kids in our scene who's parents don't understand, and don't let them party, i understand their struggle. i only wish there was a way that we could educate not only our parents, the cops and other authorities, but society in general. but the only way i know how, is on a one by one basis... i can't describe the great satisfaction in bringing friends to their first party, especially when they have so many misconceptions and fears, and then a year later watching them do the same and take others into the scene they same way they were brought into it. i think a lot of people on this list know what i'm talking about.. i'm sorry that you happened to be the victim in this case, and a party that had so much energy, planning and love put into it had to be shut down... it was not only a loss for our lil community, but a loss for your entire crew as well. it's a shame that we can't all join together in a magical nite of fun and incredible music without wondering if the party will be shut down, or if some head case is going to become violent, or some kid will take too many drugs, or get something else besides what they thought they were buying.... but i guess in a way all of those things make up part of excitement of going to party in that, you can never know what will happen.... none the less, thank you for the effort and the attempt to create a beautiful nite for everyone... so i'm gonna stop babbling on now, but i was inspired =) take care, and have a great easter tomorrow, and a great spring break and whatnot!! love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/3/99 5:44:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com writes: << Hi Everyone... I'd like to first thank all the wonderful people that have sent all the encouraging, positive, and supportive e-mails to me. You have really cheered me up. I would also like to apologize to everyone else for Feel Good Friday not happening... We know that a lot of you were looking forward to this, as much as we were looking forward to sharing it with you, and despite all the positive energy that was put forth to make this party.. Things still went really wrong. Our intention was to bring you guys a small, intimate, inexpensive, and incredible party. Like we used to do back in the days before, and to give the whole crew a chance to actually party and enjoy one, instead of running around all night working. But unfortunately Not everyone on this list is here for the same reasons. Have you ever asked yourselves why there are over 400+ subscribers to this list, but only a handful of maybe 80 active posters? Who are all those other subscribers that get this list, and what do they do with the information on it? Well Friday was a perfect example of how easy it is for someone to misuse info off this list and use it to shut down a party by panicking the police into having a knee-jerk reaction and overreacting towards a situation that they felt was a ticking time bomb waiting to explode in their city. The police REALLY thought that it was going to be some sort of insane and out of control mob scene. I guess you can't blame them... they are only cops, and have an obligation to THEIR community... not ours. However... their handling of the situation left much to be proud of. I respect the police when they do their job to prevent crime, but not when they act with discrimination, out of fear, in the mane of crime prevention. It's messed up, and a violation of OUR civil liberties. Innocent first!!! The cops basically told the management : "Hey.. this is what's going on here tonight... and either you do the right thing and pull the plug on this party, or we can pull the plug on YOU" ... Not in these exact words.. but it was just as cut and dry. For those of you that think there is a good legal case here... forget about it... I'm not interested... It's just a big waste of time, and the only people who gain anything from it are the bottom feeder lawyers and it would just bring more negative visibility onto this scene. So I'm not interested. But I just wanted you all to know that we did our best, and tried our hardest to bring everyone together through music and dancing. But some people can't see it for what it is, and can only see it through closed minded blinders as "disrespectful underage drug orgies with overdoses, and aids needle poking" And these people will do whatever it takes to keep their kids from attending these events. Even if it means shutting them all down, so their kids don't have the option to go. And as unbelievable as this sounds... it's happening, and these people are all around us. Even on this list. Your parents may even subscribe to this list to see what you are up to. The police are on this list trying to angle in on illegal activity, and big brother is on this list keeping tabs on everything else. PLEASE... Prove your parents and the media WRONG and party responsibly. Trust me... Not everyone in this scene is as nice as they come across. There are wolves in sheep's clothing here, and they are the destroying this culture by polluting it with drugs, just to come up the 'so called' easy way... BUT Their is no easy way... that's the catch!!! Stop supporting these drug dealers... they are only here to make money and care nothing about you, or the music, or anything but their profit margin. Be smart and realize that your actions effect everyone around you, just like other peoples actions will effect you. And not just at the parties, but in all of life. And pass this information on to people you care about, so that everyone knows what's happening. I love this culture, and have been involved in throwing parties for 8 years... longer that almost every other promoter out here... and to me, this culture is like my own child, that I share the responsibility of raising with other promoters... and It's our duty to protect our children... just the same way that your parents care and want to protect you. So please... Save both your parents and your promoters a lot of grief by doing the right thing by them, because the bottom line is that we all care about your health, and safety. Have a happy Easter everyone, Have a Fun, Safe, and Positive Spring Break, and always keep it Real. Keep it mellow, Vlad >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 04:11:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16742 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 04:11:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 16733 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 04:11:22 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:11:22 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA25617 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:11:21 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: DIRECTIONS TO THE GATHERING Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:08:19 -0500 Message-ID: <01be7e37$a08f4ec0$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE7E0D.B7B946C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE7E0D.B7B946C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi could anyone please tell me the directions to the Gathering? 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Hi could anyone please tell me the = directions to=20 the Gathering?  I'm coming from across the Bay Bridge.  Thanks = and=20 see  you all there.
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE7E0D.B7B946C0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 04:20:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20272 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 04:20:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 20263 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 04:20:05 -0000 Received: from mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:20:05 -0000 Received: from adsl-209-233-16-174.dsl.pacbell.net by mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.01.13.19.49.p4) with SMTP id <0F9N0056ADDF6I@mta1.snfc21.pbi.net> for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:20:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 03:56:07 +0000 (GMT) From: davidmin@pacbell.net (David Minuk) Subject: Re: History of the scene....... In-reply-to: <4.1.19990403193100.00928e10@popd.ix.netcom.com> To: Greg Sandler , sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-id: <3706e283.13470568@mail.pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <4.1.19990403193100.00928e10@popd.ix.netcom.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've still got one on my record box, along with Liquid stickers and numerous classic punk stickers... David On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 19:32:35 -0800, you wrote: >Hey Gianni, > >Did you know that those IF stickers are worth millions?!?!?! Don't you = wish >you kept yours? > >No not really, they aren't worth millions but they are a milestone of = our >scene. That was a gret era!!! Ahhh Memories... > >Peace and love, > >Greg =3D ) > >At 02:55 AM 4/2/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Hi everyone, Gianni here. I was reading everyone's posts when I started= to=20 >>think of the first rave I went to. Some of you might remember it. It = was=20 >>around 92' I think. I forgot who was playing but it was called TOONTOWN= and=20 >>it was inside the Fashion Center. It was an unbelievable party. I got = my=20 >>first "rave" CD there (which I have since lost) it was bye Twitch. I = also=20 >>remember that they were passing out little stickers that said "IF." = Anyway I=20 >>was just pondering my thought's and thought I'd share them with you. >> >> >> GIANNI, ------------------------------------------------------------ David Minuk davidmin@pacbell.net WWW: My URL is http://home.pacbell.net/davidmin Please note my new e-mail address. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 04:21:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21057 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 04:21:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 21048 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 04:21:17 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:21:17 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 9UOZa10656; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:20:14 -0500 (EST) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <78bb939d.2438427e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:20:14 EST Subject: Re: DIRECTIONS TO THE GATHERING To: chrisle@uclink.berkeley.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just take 880 n to hegenberger. Go east on hegenberger. Baldwin is right across the street from homebase. Like taco bell is the last store on your right before a white building on the corner. Baldwin is between the white building and public storage. Go right on baldwin (you can't go left) and go all the way down to 85th. The wherehouse is on the corner to your left. It's hard to miss. See ya there. HUGZzzzz I used to work at that white buildin on the corner. . . it used to be Taylor Made before it turned to IKON Office Solutions and moved to the other side of the freeway. Cool huh? Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 04:24:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22644 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 04:24:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 22634 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 04:24:00 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:24:00 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3NNLa07102 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:23:22 -0500 (EST) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <382d8089.2438433a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:23:22 EST Subject: NRR: Anyone wonder about time ? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone wonder what time it really is right before you move your clocks back or ahead an hour. Everyone always seems to change their clocks early. Like. . . I want to be at the party around 9. . . one clock in my house is 9:22, one is 8:25, and my pc thinks it's like 8:55 for whatever reason. I think I gotta go. . . LuvYalL HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 04:33:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25435 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 04:33:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 25412 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 04:33:35 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 04:33:35 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vRTRa13470 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:30:11 -0500 (EST) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <2049ac3a.243844d3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:30:11 EST Subject: Re: spiritual experiences @parties... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well i don't know where to start... but the one memory that stands out was this afterparty for tickle2 back in august... the party itself was so awsome that even if the nite had ended at 4 (eewww maritime sucked becuz of that rule) i would have been quite satisfied. in fact that nite, was probably when i first truely became addicted to trance... the music and the vibe at that party was so insane... i remember as Thomas was closing up the last set of the night, the entire room was jumping... and those of u who went to this party probably rememeber that a good amount of people were totally floored most of the night... but almost everyone was screaming and dancing as the party came to an end, and thomas gave this speach about what a great nite it was, and how everyone had helped to make it that way, and he announced that a few afterparties were going off, and stuff. the amazing thing was that he managed to get that room pretty quiet and everyone was listening to him.. it took so long to get out of there becuz most people stayed until the very end... i ended up with 8 people in my car (which only fits 6) and i only knew one of them, the friend i came with that nite... so we had an adventure getting to the after party cuz we didn't know where we were going, but we made it out to this spot, a golf course or something by the shore in daily city.... we had to climb through this whole in a fence, and following this lil trail out to the spot and even though that nite was really cold once we made it out there, i was warm enough... i remember thinking as i was walking back to the car in the morning, "this can't be my life" it was such a great experience that i felt like i was dreaming.... i had a total sense of peace and completeness... i didn't mind the hour drive out of my way to drop off some stranded raver kids who were stuck with no ride... as i drove home with the sun rising, and mystre's tape filling my car, i felt the most "at home" i had ever felt... it was one of those moringings that i didn't care what was gonna happen when i finally got home and tried to hide my exhastion from my parents who thought i had spent the nite at a friends house... i didn't care that by the time i got home i had used a entire tank of gas... all i knew was that if i wasn't already, i was now comletely addicted to this scene..... thankx to those of you that were part of that night, and those of you who have been part of all the other incredible nites i have been blessed to experience in the last year and a half...... i love all of you that are part of our lil raver family!! =) love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 05:52:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20869 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 05:52:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 20859 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 05:52:29 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 05:52:29 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id oOWSa18681; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:49:08 -0500 (EST) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <6edfed30.24385754@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:49:08 EST Subject: Re: <> The Matrix To: elias_smith@juno.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WhrDaMud@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i tottaly aggree with elias deffinatly c this movy elias_smith@juno.com writes: << Fuck yeah. See this movie, see this movie, see this movie. It cheeses out at certain points, but is worth it. It's so freakin' good, you're actually not bothered by the fact that you are watching Keanu Reeves try and do martial arts! See this movie, see this movie, see this movie... or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 06:40:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3441 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 06:40:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 3432 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 06:40:56 -0000 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (206.13.28.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 06:40:56 -0000 Received: from fiveartists.com (TiER@ppp-206-170-29-143.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.29.143]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id WAA19751 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:35:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <370708E0.641A2EF1@fiveartists.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:38:27 -0800 From: Nemo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: NRR, Birthday Tree Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, i thought this was really cool, it hits right on the money too... =) ANton the Panda Boi Which tree are you? Which tree does your birthday fall under? December 23 to January 1 ........... Apple Tree January 2 to January 11 .............. Fir Tree January 12 to January 24 ............ Elm Tree January 25 to February 3 ............. Cypress Tree February 4 to February 8 ............. Poplar Tree February 9 to February 18 ............ Cedar Tree February 19 to February 28 .......... Pine Tree March 1 to March 10 ..................... Weeping Willow Tree March 11 to March 20 ................... Lime Tree March 21 ...................................... Oak Tree March 22 to March 31 ................... Hazelnut Tree April 1 to April 10 ......................... Rowan Tree April 11 to April 20 ....................... Maple Tree April 21 to April 30 ....................... Walnut Tree May 1 to May 14 ........................... Poplar Tree May 15 to May 24 ......................... Chestnut Tree May 25 to June 3 .......................... Ash Tree June 4 to June 13 ......................... Hornbeam Tree June 14 to June 23 ....................... Fig Tree June 24 ........................................ Birch Tree June 25 to July 4 .......................... Apple Tree July 5 to July 14 ........................... Fir Tree July 15 to July 25 ......................... Elm Tree July 26 to August 4 ....................... Cypress Tree August 5 to August 13 ................... Poplar Tree August 14 to August 23 ................. Cedar Tree August 24 to September 2 ............ Pine Tree September 3 to September 12 ..... Weeping Willow Tree September 13 to September 22 ... Lime Tree September 23 .............................. Olive Tree September 24 to October 3 .......... Hazelnut Tree October 4 to October 13 ............... Rowan Tree October 14 to October 23 ............. Maple Tree October 24 to November 11 .......... Walnut Tree November 12 to November 21 ...... Chestnut Tree November 22 to December 1 ........ Ash Tree December 2 to December 11 ........ Hornbeam Tree December 12 to December 21 ...... Fig Tree December 22 ................................ Beech Tree Apple Tree, the Love Of slight build, lots of charm, appeal and attraction, pleasant aura, flirtatious, adventurous, sensitive, always in love, wants to love and be loved, faithful and tender partner, very generous, scientific talents,lives for today, a carefree philosopher with imagination Fir Tree, the Mysterious Extraordinary taste, dignity, cultivated airs, loves anything beautiful, moody, stubborn, tends to egoism but cares for those close to it, rather modest, very ambitious, talented, industrious uncontent lover, many friends, many foes, very reliable. Elm Tree, the Noble-Mindedness Pleasant shape, tasteful clothes, modest demands, tends to not forgive mistakes, cheerful, likes to lead but not to obey, honest and faithful partner, tends to a know-all-attitude and making decisions for others, noble-minded, generous, good sense of humor, practical. Cypress, the Faithfulness Strong, muscular, adaptable, takes what life has to give, happy content, optimistic, needs enough money and acknowledgment, hates loneliness,passionate lover which cannot be satisfied, faithful, quick-tempered, unruly, pedantic and careless. Poplar, the Uncertainty Looks very decorative, no self-confident behavior, only courageous if necessary, needs goodwill and pleasant surroundings, very choosy, often lonely, great animosity, artistic nature, good organizer, tends to philosophy, reliable in any situation, takes partnership serious. Cedar, the Confidence Of rare beauty, knows how to adapt, likes luxury, of good health in the least shy, tends to look down on others, self-confident, determined, impatient, wants to impress others, many talents, industrious, healthy optimism, waiting for the one true love, able to make quick decisions. Pine Tree, the Particularity Loves agreeable company, very robust, knows how to make life comfortable, very active, natural, good companion, but seldom friendly, falls easily in love but its passion burns out quickly, gives up easily, many disappointments till it finds its ideal, trustworthy, practical. Weeping Willow, the Melancholy Beautiful but full of melancholy, attractive, very empathic, loves anythingbeautiful and tasteful, loves to travel, dreamer, restless, capricious,honest, can be influenced but is not easy to live with, demanding, good intuition, suffers in love but finds sometimes an anchoring partner. Lime Tree, the Doubt Accepts what life dishes out in a composed way, hates fighting, stress and labor, tends to laziness and idleness, soft and relenting, makes sacrifices for friends, many talents but not tenacious enough to make them blossom, often wailing and complaining, very jealous, loyal. Hazelnut Tree, the Extraordinary Charming, undemanding, very understanding, knows how to make an impression, active fighter for social cause, popular, moody and capricious lover, honest and tolerant partner, precise sense of judgment. Rowan, the Sensitivity Full of charm, cheerful, gifted, without egoism, likes to draw attention, loves life, motion, unrest and even complications, is both dependent and independent, good taste, artistic, passionate, emotional, good company, does not forgive. Maple, Independence of Mind No ordinary person, full imagination and originality, shy and reserved,ambitious, proud, self-respect, hungers for new experiences, sometimes nervous, many complexes, good memory, learns easily, complicated love life, wants to impress. Walnut Tree, the Passion Unrelenting, strange and full of contrasts, often egoistic,aggressive,noble, broad horizon, unexpected reactions, spontaneous, unlimited ambition, no flexibility, difficult and uncommon partner, not always liked but often admired, ingenious strategist, very jealous and passionate, no compromises. Chestnut Tree, the Honesty Of unusual beauty, does not want to impress, well-developed sense of justice, vivacious, interested, a born diplomat, but irritate and sensitive in company, often due to a lack of self-confidence, acts sometimes superior, feels not understood loves only once, has difficulties in finding a partner. Ash Tree, the Ambition Uncommonly attractive, vivacious, impulsive, demanding, does not care for criticism, ambitious, intelligent, talented, likes to play with its fate, can be egoistic, very reliable and trustworthy, faithful and prudent lover, sometimes brains rule over heart, but takes partnership very serious. Hornbeam, the good taste Of cool beauty, cares for its looks and condition, good taste, tends to egoism, makes life as comfortable as possible, leads reasonable, disciplined life, looks for kindness, an emotional partner and acknowledgment, dreams of unusual lovers, is seldom happy with her feelings, mistrusts most people, isnever sure of its decisions, very consciences. Fig Tree, the Sensibility Very strong, a bit self-willed, independent, does not allow contradiction or arguments, loves life, its family, children and animals, a bit of a butterfly, good sense of humor, likes idleness and laziness, of practical talent and intelligence. Oak, robust nature Courageous, strong, unrelenting, independent, sensible, does not love changes, keeps its feet on the ground, person of action. Birch, the Inspiration Vivacious, attractive, elegant, friendly, unpretentious, modest, does not like anything in excess, abhors the vulgar, loves life in nature and in calm, not very passionate, full of imagination, little ambition, creates a calm and content atmosphere. Olive Tree, the Wisdom Loves sun, warmth and kind feelings, reasonable, balanced, avoids aggression and violence, tolerant, cheerful, calm, well-developed sense of justice, sensitive, empathic, free of jealousy, loves to read and the company of sophisticated people. Beech, the Creative Has good taste, concerned about its looks, materialist, good organization of life and career, economical, good leader, takes no unnecessary risks, reasonable, splendid lifetime companion, keen on keeping fit (diets, sports, etc.). From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 06:54:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6792 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 06:54:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 6783 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 06:54:13 -0000 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (206.13.28.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 06:54:13 -0000 Received: from fiveartists.com (TiER@ppp-206-170-29-143.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.29.143]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id WAA21965 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:49:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <37070BF9.37CFB941@fiveartists.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:51:39 -0800 From: Nemo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: NRR, Birthday Tree Pt. II Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4BC0082EF041E139FE6DD6D8" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --------------4BC0082EF041E139FE6DD6D8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit okay, hate when i do this, thought of all the other stuff i wanted to say... like to apologize in advance to ppl who hate this kind of stuff, but i thought it was really accurate, i'm a maple btw, if anyone cares... (Aaron, READ MAPLE!! OMG!! it's SOOOOOO TRUE!!) yeah, give it a shot ppl... =) PLUR, ANton the Panda Boi --------------4BC0082EF041E139FE6DD6D8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit okay, hate when i do this, thought of all the other stuff i wanted to say...
like to apologize in advance to ppl who hate this kind of stuff, but i thought it was really accurate,
i'm a maple btw, if anyone cares... (Aaron, READ MAPLE!! OMG!! it's SOOOOOO TRUE!!)
yeah, give it a shot ppl...   =)

PLUR,
ANton the Panda Boi
  --------------4BC0082EF041E139FE6DD6D8-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 07:03:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9803 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 07:02:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9786 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 07:02:57 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 07:02:57 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vAOQa20223 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:13:27 -0500 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <2603ad4a.24386b17@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:13:27 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk but aaron's a chestnut... im a poplar ;) but it doesn't describe me at all... by the way...have fun at the gathering everyone ;) MUAH...valerie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 07:40:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18843 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 07:40:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 18834 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 07:40:10 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 07:40:10 -0000 Received: from Rainraysor@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vSPQa28343 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 04:01:53 -0500 (EDT) From: Rainraysor@aol.com Message-ID: <95b4e9e1.24387671@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 04:01:53 EDT Subject: Re: OnToAPositiveThread!..YourSpiritualExpirences@aParty To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Rainraysor@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think that the reason i go to parties has been the spiritual aspect...i had been going to parties just to get down for a long time...then i went to a Vision, 96' or 97? somewhere near the zoo?...looked like a school?... anyway...it was when Markie was spinning that i realized i truely had a love for the music and the people....especially when the lights came on an' everyone still looked good!....and finally, at the end, everyone Spontaniously gathered into a circle, and we all looked at each other....all of us who had danced our asses off the entire night...there was a moment of silence when we all just looked at each other....beautiful people who came together to share this moment. rr From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 07:43:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19884 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 07:43:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 19874 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 07:43:07 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 07:43:07 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id hCQGa22790; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:50:51 -0500 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:50:51 EDT Subject: Re: NRR, Birthday Tree To: anton@fiveartists.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk im a ceder tree ...woo whooooo ::DJMEGATRON-MECHASOUL From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 10:57:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17139 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 10:57:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 17128 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 10:57:44 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 10:57:44 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vWKDa09470; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 06:56:28 -0500 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <165c4ca7.24389f5c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 06:56:28 EDT Subject: Re: Raver remedies. . . n tricks of the trade To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 99-04-03 23:06:33 EST, you write: << Does anyonyone ever have problems with their legs or shoulders or anything cramping after a funky fresh night of boogying down >? If you do, this works for me I usually drop like two or 3 potassium gluconate hits before the party and this usually takes care of it. But if you're on a ravathon, you may want to take another couple the next morning too keep you from getting thos wicked ass cramps before you go to bed or in the middle of your next sleep (whenever that may be). >> bananas work great for me! tons of potassium! and all natural too! <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 12:08:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2099 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 12:08:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 2091 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 12:08:50 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 12:08:50 -0000 Received: from Apsara9@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vLLIa05330; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 08:30:12 -0500 (EDT) From: Apsara9@aol.com Message-ID: <4d7c48de.2438b554@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 08:30:12 EDT Subject: Re: Raver remedies. . . n tricks of the trade To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Apsara9@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How's it going everyone?...well I just joined this list and I thought I'd say hi to all the beautiful people on it. I've only recently started going to parties (since December) and have only been to like five or some ridiculously low number like that, but I'm totally falling in love with the music and the vibe of the whole thing. So anyway, the last rave I went to was F-8 last Saturday, and I thought it was awesome...anyone else agree? Also, I just want to say that I'm really glad I found all you guys cause most of my friends aren't really interested in going to raves or don't really like the music. It's such a drag not having people to share my excitement with, and now that problem is solved! Hallelujah! Well, that's really all I have to say other than I hope everyone has a fabulous Easter. Love, Laura P.S. Hope to see some of yall at Tickle 3! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 14:00:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23433 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 14:00:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 23423 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 14:00:40 -0000 Received: from law-f228.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.166) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 14:00:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 72169 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 1999 14:00:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990404140013.72168.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 171.70.118.53 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 04 Apr 1999 07:00:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [171.70.118.53] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Gathering! yeaaah! Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 07:00:13 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here's my review... Gathering was da bomb! Excellent. Sooo much good music, sooo many good vibes. I was talking to some guy who in turn was talking to someone on the other side of the curtain to the chill area. He turns to me and says "guess who I'm talking to?" And it was Denis Peron, Right on! He's a hella cool person to talk to and i had to give him a bracelet. That was a really good experience. The jungle room was really good as was the main room. Overall thoroughly enjoyable and thanks to all those who made it possible and to all the cool peeeps i met there. Peace out :) John B. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 19:53:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23887 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 19:53:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 23747 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 19:53:52 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 19:53:52 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vAEOa17304 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 16:15:28 -0500 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 16:15:28 EDT Subject: Strong Foundation review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Markis1012@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello fellow ravers!! I hope everyone that went to the Gathering has tons of fun. I went to this party called Strong Foundation the same night. It was thrown by Mr Brown ( who ever that is) and Jamalski. He is so cool. He ended up letting us in free so that was a good start of the nights events. Its was a very small party and it was a 21 & over so it was'nt exactly the happy go lucky raver crowd i am used to but I managed to have fun. They played a little hip hop and some jungle. I got to meet SIFU & STAREYES too. REALLY COOL PEOPLE. At the end of Sifu's set, he gave me a tape. It is hella dope and to all the people on the list that know me should E-mail me, because i know you are going to like this shit. Not exacly Rinse or Flux material but Sifu is better than I thought. Yeah, the party ended kind of early (2:00) but by then I was dead tired anyway. FOr all you jungle junkies (like myself) that have not heard of TIK-TAK should really check him out. He is dope as F%ck!!! Well I hope to see some of you at AUDIO IMPACT next week. Its about to be some SERIOUS jungle bizness!! SATISFACTION GUARENTEED:) Keep the good vibes alive an ddon't forget to set your clocks forward!! MARKIS :)- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 20:01:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27546 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 20:01:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 27536 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 20:01:03 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 20:01:03 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7DUM38N; Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:00:52 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:04:02 -0700 Subject: Gathering review Message-ID: <19990404.130408.-22697.1.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 14-15,17-19 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well done. This party was so phat. I danced my ass off like I haven't in a awhile, mainly in tha jungle room. Tha house room was going off when I was in dere earlier and at the end the party (I know it was going off tha whole night), but it was way too crowded to dance. Caught part of UFO's set, which was dope, but I think someone else came on between him and Mr. Scruff who sucked, cause that's when I ventured into the house room. Mr. Scruff rocked it. Rocked it hard. During his set I started tripping out hellof hard cause I had just munched on a couple of shrooms and my whole life made sense to me and I realized I'd love to make a living being a dj and a poet if I could. So I tell this guy "My whole life just made complete sense to me." and he's like "Yeah, me too." So we just start talking and I come to find out he's Tim (Lovely, I think, but I just remember Tim) from tha uk, and then he starts spinning, and he's so awesome. He played some crazy shit, including some indian music that made me realize my religion is hindu. Badass. What can I say? This party was dope. Good music, good people.... what else do you need in life? Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 21:21:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27578 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 21:21:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 27568 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 21:21:49 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 21:21:49 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vRCYa05018 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:43:14 -0500 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: <89896a95.243936f2@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:43:14 EDT Subject: **hAppY eAsTeR!** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello everyone! i just wanted to wish you all a happy and safe easter!!! *niCOle* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 22:30:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15360 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 22:30:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 15351 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 22:30:47 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 22:30:47 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vRQSa18681 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 18:52:17 -0500 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <5a823c39.24394721@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 18:52:17 EDT Subject: QuEstion§ 0n Harmony Springtime FLower Fest To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Everyone!!! =) I heard that "The Gathering" was hella phat ass! IAll though I couldn't go I had a sorta good time at home with my black light and music...how lame huh Anyways I wanted to know if any of you out there are going to Harmony's "The Sprintime Flower FEstival" ?¿ because before I get my ticket I wanted to know if you all think this will be phat enough to feel the good vibes. Well let me know thanks. Oh ya and if you have more info on it like where its gonna be that'd be great too!! Bye PLUR KêñT From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 22:39:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17782 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 22:39:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 17773 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 22:39:12 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 22:39:12 -0000 Received: from canuck (dynamic9.pm09.mv.best.com [209.24.242.9]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id SAA12926 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 18:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001f01be7eeb$a0e61480$09f218d1@canuck> From: "binary fineboy" To: Subject: Children of tha Sun Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:36:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01BE7EB0.F383D640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BE7EB0.F383D640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, what more can I say than that party kicked ass. The location, the shuttle thingy, the people, the orange juice, thomas = trouble, Happy Kid Ian (who blew me away AGAIN), the cute boy who tried = to kiss me, the bouncy stage to dance on, the giant fans to dance in = front of, my friends, oh .. and then thomas trouble AGAIN when it was = all supposed to end... phew ... what a night. in the words of thomas trouble ... "this is a killer little party" I left around 7:30 and the trance pimp still had the party rockin ... I = have no idea when it ended ... but damn it was fun ~r ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BE7EB0.F383D640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well, what more can I say than that = party kicked=20 ass.
 
The location, the shuttle thingy, = the people,=20 the orange juice, thomas trouble, Happy Kid Ian (who blew me away = AGAIN), the=20 cute boy who tried to kiss me, the bouncy stage to dance on, the giant = fans to=20 dance in front of, my friends, oh .. and then thomas trouble AGAIN when = it was=20 all supposed to end... phew ... what a night.
 
in the words of thomas trouble ... = "this is=20 a killer little party"
 
I left around 7:30 and the trance pimp still had the = party=20 rockin ... I have no idea when it ended ... but damn it was = fun
 
~r
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BE7EB0.F383D640-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 04 22:46:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20773 invoked by uid 6000); 4 Apr 1999 22:46:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20764 invoked from network); 4 Apr 1999 22:46:07 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 22:46:07 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA15056 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: Gatheringgggggggggggg.. Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:42:57 -0400 Message-ID: <01be7ed3$575f1180$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01BE7EB1.D04D7180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BE7EB1.D04D7180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All I gotta say is WoW... IT was badazzzz!!! <----- Blue Water Print t-Shirt with Blue Goggles. Chris. " I Would... I Would Love ya til Tomorrow.." ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BE7EB1.D04D7180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All I gotta say is WoW...  IT was=20 badazzzz!!!
 
 
<----- Blue Water Print t-Shirt with Blue=20 Goggles.
Chris.
 
 
" I Would... I Would Love ya til=20 Tomorrow.."
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BE7EB1.D04D7180-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 00:31:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18569 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 00:31:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 18542 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 00:30:56 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 00:30:56 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7EB3N48; Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:30:26 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:37:40 -0700 Subject: NRR: Enlightened Chemistry Message-ID: <19990404.173930.3630.0.Trigometric@juno.com> References: <19990403.204609.2910.0.Drekster@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-5,7-8,10-11,13-17,19-20,30-31,36-37,41-42,45-46,51-55 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hee hee. Most or you probably aren't down with chemistry. I am though and I thought it was funny. ; o ) Triad **************************************************** This is forwarded from a graduate of the University of Oklahoma citing one of Dr. Schlambaugh's questions for his final examinations of 1997. Dr. Schlambaugh is known for asking questions on his finals like: "Why do airplanes fly". In May 1997, The Momentum, Heat and Mass Transfer II final exam question was: "IS HELL EXOTHERMIC OR ENDOTHERMIC? SUPPORT YOUR ANSWER WITH PROOF". Most of the students wrote proofs on their beliefs using Boyle's Law or some variant. One student, however wrote the following: "First we must postulate that if souls exist, they must have some mass. If they do then a mole of souls also must have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into Hell, and at what rate are souls leaving? I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it does not leave. Therefore no souls are leaving. As for souls entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some religions say that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions, and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and all souls go to Hell. With the birth and death rates what they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now we look at the rate of change in the volume of Hell. Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of the souls and volume needs to stay constant. Answer 1: So, if Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose. Answer 2: Of course, if Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase in souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Theresa Banyan during freshman year, that "It'll be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you", and taking into account that I still have not succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then [A2] cannot be true...thus, Hell is exothermic." The student, Tim Graham, got the only A grade in the exam. or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 00:50:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24764 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 00:50:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 24753 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 00:50:15 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 00:50:15 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA19772 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:49:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca42-11.ix.netcom.com(209.111.212.11) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma019747; Sun Apr 4 19:49:13 1999 Message-ID: <370809D0.352D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:54:40 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Review-Gathering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WOW!, What an awesome party!! That was thee best massive Ever! I love the size of 85th and Baldwin but I've always hated and still do hate how dirty it is there :() I missed Eric Spire's set, yet I'm asuming it was fantastic as though they always are- Huggy(sp?) was incredible, I think that is one of my new favorite dj's. The house-progressive-funk room was phuken rad! There was so much energy in that room. I missed Jeno's set, but I did hear all of Tony's, Onienz and most of Josh's...All of which sounded perfect! I love Jungle, but the progressive house room had to much positive energy flowing and I only left for about a half hour to go listen to a piece of Noel's set--- Choice Production planned this party perfectly just as they did 2 years back when the Gathering was thrown the night before Day Light Savings and let us kids stay beyond 8am. The decorations were cool, I've always loved the banners Choice uses. All in all this party was amazing, with the one dollar water and all the old skool kids coming out to party it felt like the way all parties should feel, with the exception of the over priced tickets- Peace Out and Much Love Elizabeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 01:41:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10021 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 01:41:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9977 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 01:41:05 -0000 Received: from law-f165.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.228) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 01:41:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 38888 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 01:40:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405014038.38887.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.162.49.120 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:40:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.162.49.120] From: "Mandi Girl" To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Children of tha Sun Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 18:40:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Well, what more can I say than that party kicked ass. I think that was the only way to put it. I met so many cool people and the vibe was grrrrreat. I had to leave early 'cuz Easter and stuff, but it was phat. The shuttle people and all the other works were really into us having a good time. "Someone smells like Mc Donald's frenchfries!" Ha! Much love Mandi >The location, the shuttle thingy, the people, the orange juice, thomas trouble, Happy Kid Ian (who blew me away AGAIN), the cute boy who tried to kiss me, the bouncy stage to dance on, the giant fans to dance in front of, my friends, oh .. and then thomas trouble AGAIN when it was all supposed to end... phew ... what a night. > >in the words of thomas trouble ... "this is a killer little party" > >I left around 7:30 and the trance pimp still had the party rockin ... I have no idea when it ended ... but damn it was fun > >~r > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 02:54:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21140 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 02:53:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 16587 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 02:22:43 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 02:22:43 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vQWWa26186; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:21:57 -0500 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:21:57 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20QuEstion=A7=200n=20Harmony=20Springtime=20F?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lower=20Fest?= To: Gammbino@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, i'm going to harmony. last harmony party i went to was dope so i'd imagine this one will be too. they usually are. hope to see you all there and hello to all of you that i met last night at children of the sun(i was wearing a Brownie's shirt or black tank top, depending on when you saw me, big cargo pants, black dickies messenger, bag i'm realy short : ) ). what a great party! definetly some good vibes. anyways, hope you guys all had fun at whatever other parties you went to. have a good sunday. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 02:54:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22944 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 02:54:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 20863 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 02:52:34 -0000 Received: from f67.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.207) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 02:52:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 8536 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 02:52:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405025219.8535.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.50 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:52:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.50] From: "dj boywonder" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Gathering: steve loria Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:52:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey what did happen to steve loria.. aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 03:42:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25111 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 03:42:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 25101 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 03:42:49 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 03:42:49 -0000 Received: from C66924-A ([24.5.30.51]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990405034248.WQVB6529.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@C66924-A> for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:42:48 -0700 Message-ID: <006e01be7f16$2367b600$331e0518@C66924-A.plstn1.sfba.home.com> From: "jacob jarnigon" To: Subject: BSP - huge rave in Oakland Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:41:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01BE7EDB.76F5CB30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01BE7EDB.76F5CB30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable entroducing the London crew for the fist time in california -=20 Thursday April 15th Thee Psychic Fest-E-val=20 spinning -=20 Dr Klinik ( trance )=20 DJ rasta mother fucker ( ragga / jungle )=20 DJ f gianelli ( hardcore old skool house / breakbeat )=20 AxeSmash ( live gabber ) special introducting fee - $5 - 7=20 starts at 8:30 pm - 4:30 am=20 ( 1932 Telegraph Avenue in downtown Oakland, adjacent to (and above) = 19th St BART station. ) ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01BE7EDB.76F5CB30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
entroducing the London crew for the fist time in = california -=20
 
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Dr  Klinik  ( trance )
DJ  rasta mother fucker  ( ragga / jungle = )=20
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 ( 1932 Telegraph Avenue in downtown Oakland, adjacent to (and = above)=20 19th St BART station. )
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_006B_01BE7EDB.76F5CB30-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 03:47:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27268 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 03:47:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 27259 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 03:47:46 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 03:47:46 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vLVUa01128; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:46:56 -0500 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <7a2a709.24398c30@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:46:56 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20QuEstion=A7=200n=20Harmony=20Springtime=20F?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lower=20Fest?= To: Gammbino@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Surely you're joking right? Honestly, Harmony is one of the best things stil= l=20 around. Get your ticket. In a message dated 4/4/99 2:48:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, Gammbino@aol.com=20 writes: << I wanted to know if any of you out there are=20 going to Harmony's "The Sprintime Flower FEstival" ?=BF because before I g= et=20 my ticket I wanted to know if you all think this will be phat enough to fee= l=20 the good vibes. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 04:09:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2632 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 04:09:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 2620 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 04:09:36 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 04:09:36 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vOLPa14881 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:18:19 -0500 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:18:19 EDT Subject: T H E G A T H E R I N G To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Haven't been to 85th and Baldwin in FOREVER! (FTT Halloween Tribal Massive '97 who remembers that FANTASTIC PARTY!!! ahh memories...) I've always liked that warehouse because it never got hot and crowded...(ahem...2nd and Crackson) So this was my first Gathering party ever. It was alrite. I believe that our scene is kinda weak right now so the crowd was not that great. But that is another subject. I liked the main room music, some good house and techno going on. Ok UFO killed me I haven't seen him spin in damn I don't know how long. Dammit, why can't Phunckateck spin together anymore...who remembers!!! Props to Noel, dope set as usual. I also caught Mes in the little room in the back...he spun some SICK ass steady beat thumping house!!! I danced my ass off to make up for the nite before (bust of FGF)...too bad there weren't any good circles =] Hope you all had a good weekend. See you all at Harmony....I'm off to Hawaii TUESDAY! Just thought I'd rub it in hehe. =*)~ -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 04:39:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12494 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 04:39:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 12473 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 04:39:18 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 04:39:18 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vYEOa02346 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:38:14 -0500 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:38:14 EDT Subject: fuck #sfraves To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk whoever banned me from #sfraves on the irc can kiss my ass....peace From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 04:45:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14598 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 04:45:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 14588 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 04:45:50 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 04:45:50 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-94.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.94]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA03488 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990405031817.006935b4@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:18:17 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re:NRR fuck #sfraves Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IRC sfraves has been taken over...look b4 you leap Nuku At 12:38 AM 4/5/99 EDT, you wrote: >whoever banned me from #sfraves on the irc can kiss my ass....peace > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 04:47:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15428 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 04:47:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 15419 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 04:47:41 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 04:47:41 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-94.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.94]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA03539 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990405032009.0069d19c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:20:09 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: NRR Fuck sfraves prt 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Also the whole isp or *aol.com has been banned so anyone hwo has a aol provider has been banned from that channel... la la la Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 04:49:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16661 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 04:49:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 16652 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 04:49:52 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 04:49:52 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vQTHa13819 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:00:14 -0500 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <502e380.24399d5e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:00:14 EDT Subject: Re: NRR fuck #sfraves To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WHAT IS "IRC"? << IRC sfraves has been taken over...look b4 you leap Nuku At 12:38 AM 4/5/99 EDT, you wrote: >whoever banned me from #sfraves on the irc can kiss my ass....peace >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 04:58:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19906 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 04:58:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19882 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 04:58:22 -0000 Received: from ultimanet.com (HELO sugarbeet.salinas.net) (root@205.179.129.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 04:58:22 -0000 Received: from laptop (06-092.006.popsite.net [209.209.8.92]) by sugarbeet.salinas.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA05613; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:02:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> X-Sender: ki@mail.cloudfactory.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:43:53 -0700 To: Ray Vonie From: Ki Subject: RE: nrr...if you've received spam from... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3706B435.7495BABA@ix.netcom.com> References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok. so i tried to be nice and professional and keep this issue off the list but someone has decided to make it public. Read and reread Vlad's post. It seems he is showing his true colors on this one. do you really want to handle this man to man vlad? is that how you respond when someone wants you to take them off your SPAM list? how can you constantly preach plur(to sell more tix) and then be so violent at the same time? you're a hypocrite plain and simple and you were stupid enough to show who you really are to a list of 300 people who you consider your customers. not a smart business move if you ask me but i understand that it's hard trying to fake being someone you really aren't. you really stuck your foot and your multi page way too big glossy, wasteful, unecessary flyers in your mouth on this one. now on to the topic at hand. 1. this IS NOT a cloudfactory attempt to take you down. where did you get that idea? b/c my addy just happens to be ki@cloudfactory.org? this is just another example of your intelligence level. please do not make assumptions that i am speaking for cloudfactory, I am NOT. 2. So everyone, let me explain how this entire mess has transpired. Vlad has been collecting email messages from people who write into Sfraves and putting them(without the consent of the person) on his own email list. He has than been sending out SPAM to said list about his events. I received one about a months or so ago. I then made it very clear that i wanted him to take me off of his list and to never email me again. He first denied that he ever sent it to me in the first place even tho' the headers came straight from his addy. yet another example of his intelligence(or lack of). He never took me off the list. I have a bunch of friends who have asked hime to take them off the list and again he ahas not complied. i took it upon myselft to call his isp and file a formal complaint regarding his spamming and the fact that he was denying it. They said they would close his account temporarily until he called them and they would tell him he cannot send out unsoliceted spam. He still did not take me off the list as i received another spame from him last week. The whole issue would have been dropped at this point if you would have simply taken me off the list. he didn't respect me enought to do so. why should he right? he's the big promoter and he can make my life miserable right? like putting my face on every one of his flyers. So i called his isp again and they said if i could get a few people to send them the original message with the original headers included they would close his account down permanently. that is when i wrote to the list and asked people to write me PRIVATELY regarding the matter. i wanted to keep this drama off the list. Vlad didn't. so if you agree with me on this issue and want to help me stop a spammer than please write me PRIVATELY and I'll let you know what you need to do to file the complaint and show a spammer that they must respect people enough to not send them spam after a request to not do so has been made. IMPORTANT: please make sure you have the original spam. it is addressed to HappyRaver@Globalparty.com Thanks for your time. Vlad, i'm sending the message below to your isp. this violent little spout of yours should be more than enough to have your account taken away. Keep it Non violent and Real. KI At 04:37 PM 4/3/99 -0800, Ray Vonie wrote: > Oh... This really fucking bites me... You're the person that tried >to get my netscape account shut down because you got sent an 'unsolicited >e-mail' inviting you to Love A-Fair. Man can you ever hold a fucking >grudge for receiving a dam e-mail. Is being a cock blocking player hater >what you and your whole Cloudfactory Organization are about? Why are you >out to screw over other promoters??? You're as bad as the parents out >there trying to shut down the parties because they have no control over >their children, or the egomaniac cops that screw with promoters for kicks. >Are you even on this list... I don't recall seeing any posts from you? Why >don't you get your own life, and a better hobby than being a meddling shit >disturber. > Iv told you already before that Your e-mail address has been removed >from my address book, and I even apologized to you privately for bothering >you with it... wasn't that enough for you??? Why are you asking others >to forward you their e-mails? Trying to make a better case of bullshit >because your last attempt to get my account canceled failed? Are you the >type of person that has ever kicked someone's ass for being handed a >flyer... because what you're doing is no different. Why do you want to >play with me like that? Have you even given this much thought?? I let >it slide last time, but if you think you can fuck me twice and laugh about >it... you need a reality check. And this is the last freebie... the next >one won't be. If you got a beef with me, lets hook up and settle things >man to man. I'm sure we will come to a quick resolution. > Shame and pity on you for calling yourself a raver. Sorry if Im >taking this a bit personally... it's just that genocide makes me nervous. > >Keep it REAL... Vlad > >Ki wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> if you've received spam from ray vonie at Feel Good Entertainment last >> week... >> and you have the spam still in your mailbox, please write me privately!! >> >> thanks! >> >> Ki > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 05:15:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28544 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 05:15:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28528 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 05:15:47 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 05:15:47 -0000 From: "vipassana" Subject: Re: Children of tha Sun To: "binary fineboy" , X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:15:39 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am glad you attended and had a great time :-} Hope to see more of you guys at the next event!!! So did you crush the little boys heart by not kissing him? Matt :-o} aka vipassana On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:36:47 -0700 "binary fineboy" wrote: > Well, what more can I say than that party kicked ass. > > The location, the shuttle thingy, the people, the orange > juice, thomas trouble, Happy Kid Ian (who blew me away > AGAIN), the cute boy who tried to kiss me, the bouncy > stage to dance on, the giant fans to dance in front of, > my friends, oh .. and then thomas trouble AGAIN when it > was all supposed to end... phew ... what a night. > > in the words of thomas trouble ... "this is a killer > little party" > > I left around 7:30 and the trance pimp still had the > party rockin ... I have no idea when it ended ... but > damn it was fun > > ~r > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 05:27:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2880 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 05:27:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2844 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 05:27:18 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 05:27:18 -0000 Received: from ADDIOJUICE@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vPOTa09763 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:26:31 -0500 (EDT) From: ADDIOJUICE@aol.com Message-ID: <37732180.2439a387@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:26:31 EDT Subject: Re: Friday night, a party in san leandro... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 58 Reply-To: ADDIOJUICE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HEY TINA AN CEL , I HAPPENED TO BE AT SCOTTS LIL GET TOGETHER TO WITH SOME OTHER FRIENDS OF MINE. WE'RE FROM SL THOUGH SO THAS HOW WE KNEW BOUT IT. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 05:51:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13820 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 05:51:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 13807 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 05:51:10 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 05:51:10 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vRLNa00780 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 02:18:44 -0500 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <92ba5fe6.2439afc4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 02:18:44 EDT Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Watching from the loft! OUCH, is it hot in here? Peace everyone, M Peace is relative in ones own mind. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 06:07:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17739 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 06:07:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 17728 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 06:07:35 -0000 Received: from ns1.gp1holdings.com (root@209.31.236.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 06:07:35 -0000 Received: from [172.29.18.219] (toscana-209-79-56-111.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.79.56.111]) by ns1.gp1holdings.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA02883 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:57:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:11:14 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: jason Subject: Children of the Sun: Top 10 Review Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk TOP TEN REASONS WHY Children of the Sun Was the Place To Be on Saturday Night: 10. The bouncy-but-cozy shuttle rides to/from the parking lot. 9. Free fruit and lemonade. 8. The springy dancefloor. 7. That amazing cushy red couch. 6. Thomas Trouble and Happy Kid Ian. 5. The five bleach-blond-boy troup. 4. Monique the sober e-tard. I love you baby. 3. Hella cute girls (her name is Chris; she was covered in flowers). 2. Hella fine boys (twins, anyone?! *drool*). 1. My roommate went to the Gathering. J. ....................... cognitive@iname.com "Homer no function beer well icq sucks without." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 07:11:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9528 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 07:11:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 9517 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 07:11:03 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 07:11:03 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vDAZa18681 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 03:10:17 -0500 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 03:10:17 EDT Subject: *hmm.. ?!?... 1 oF VlAd'S fGf pOsTs! :o)* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello everyone i just was sitting here thinking how sad it was that i didn't go to a party this weekend. i was really excited to go to feel good friday but after reading Vlad's post i realize that there is nothing to be sad about. i feel bad for the whole feel good crew though.. and that message that was on the info line made my heart jerk. i realize how much work the party must have been and i'm sorry that it didn't get to happen especially for those involved in putting it together.. (**vlad.. if you read this then just want to let you know that i have so much respect for you.. although that party didn't happen you never lose your heart or your hope.. i admire you so much for that i think that others should too..) where there's a will there's a way and im sure that vlad will prove that to us all. well i guess i just wanted everyone to know how much mad respect i have for vlad and how i realize that missing a party or two (i wasn't able to get gathering tickets either) isn't anything to be sad about.. it wasn't anyone's fault.. and everyone knows how cops can be.. eehh.. but anyways.. it wasn't anyone's fault.. and you know what? i think that it will just make my party next week that much better because of how much i miss the scene already..hehe.. its only sunday nite.. but i really cant wait til next weekend because leaving a party always leaves me with such a happiness and fulfillment and since i missed that this weekend ill be able to appreciate it even more next week! hehe.. okay but anyways... i hope that everyone has a happy and safe week and i hope that maybe next week ill even meet a few of you since up until now i (::looks down::) feels as if they were just one of those sfraves subscribers that didn't post and didn't really become involved as much as she should be.. hehe.. vlads post did that to me too whe n he quoted how many kids out there subscribed to the list, yet how many actually posted.. :o) alright then.. i hope you all had a wonderful easter and good night to you.. (its been a long weekend and im going to sleep now..) *niCOle* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 07:30:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13898 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 07:30:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 13888 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 07:30:33 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 07:30:33 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3GMSa15959; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 03:28:50 -0500 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <6519c4f8.2439c032@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 03:28:50 EDT Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: ki@cloudfactory.org (Ki), rayvonie@ix.netcom.com (Ray Vonie), sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, i dunno about how u ended up getting sent vlad's mail in the first place, but i remember that i personally had to sign up on the web page for it.... i dunno, vlad seems to get a lot of crap not only from people on this list, but from others in the community as well.... i don't know him, but i have a great deal of respect for the man. his posts to the list are both passionate and insightful.... yeah his response to you a few days ago was angry, but what do u expect? you tried to shut his account down... so i'm sorry you received unwanted mail, but did u respond to him privately the second time, and check to see if maybe he hadn't gotten around to removing your name, or if *god-forbide* he forgot, maybe this whole thing was a misunderstanding.... i dunno i just think it is unfair how many people try to make him out to be some kind of evil villain trying to ruin our scene.... when, to me at least, it is obvious that he cares about it... so the guy makes some money doing something he loves, we should all be so lucky... k well, it's late... and i'm gonna try and get some sleep =) i hope everyone had a wonderful weekend!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina ps i was watching the news, and it looks like we're gonna have some rain in the next few days =( i hope it doens't last all week.... did u guys know, it actually snowed in arizona cuz of the same strange wheather we had the last few daze..... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 07:32:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15548 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 07:32:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 15535 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 07:32:41 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 07:32:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA04124; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:32:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:32:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: Creamy Goodness cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Thank you,Whoever broke into my car @ F-8 In-Reply-To: <19990402011728.8132.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No kidding... One time somebody broke the window on my car while it was parked in front of my parents house.. I went out the next morning to expect my radio, CD's and whatever gone, but nothing was gone... They just broke my window for kicks... Gregery On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Creamy Goodness wrote: > You know, its almost like these people are only doing > these things to hurt and destroy, rather than for > personal gain. How sad. > > Steve =( > > --- Taiida@aol.com wrote: > > I wonder what these breakin's are about if they > don't > > take some stuff. Like > > the time that my house got broken into and just took > > my parents wallets and > > purse, but not the computers, stereos, vcrs, dvd, > and > > all the other > > electronic equipment and they popped the trunk of my > > car and opened and left > > the car door open and just messed everything up in > > the car, but left the > > radio and cd's in it. .. . how weird. . > > > > > > << oh yeah...guess the kids that broke into my car > > didnt like house....they > > left all > > my tapes....one plus :) > > > > john r > > > > Speedex33@aol.com wrote: > > > > > <> > > > > > > Haha! I totally can feel you on that! > Although > > i was thouroughly upset > > > with what the burglars did take, i had to laugh > at > > their stupidity for what > > > they didnt' take..... My DVD's, a rack of 90 > > CD's, 50 other movies, THE > > > REMOTE CONTROLL FOR THE DVD PLAYER!!!!!!!!, the > > mouse for the computer, my > > > printer, scanner, zip drive, TV, video camera, > > carrying case of over 60 > > > computer games (which was about 6 inches away > from > > the computer they stole) > > > and some other things that could have easily been > > taken... Oh yeah! and i > > > forgot one more thing.... The day my house got > > broken into, i bought one of > > > MystrE's tapes. I was listening to it for about > > 20 minutes and hten had to > > > leave. when i came back and saw that everything > > had been stolen, MystrE's > > > tape was laying on the ground. So that means > that > > the only fingerprints on > > > it, should be mine and one of the people who > broke > > in!!!! > > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! The police have the tape > > right now and they're > > > getting fingerprints off of it. I seriously hope > > that one comes through. > > I > > > can't wait to get it back though, cause i only > got > > to hear 20 minutes of > > that > > > tape. Wish me luck on finding out who the > > bastards were! > > > > > > Scott >> > > > > > > === > Steve Best > Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape > Home (408)253-4982 > Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best > Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 > Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 > Do You Yahoo!? > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 08:42:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18123 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 08:42:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 17928 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 08:42:36 -0000 Received: from f41.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 08:42:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16153 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 08:42:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405084222.16152.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:42:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR what is irc Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:42:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk um fer starters... http://www.mirc.com aaron >From: Taiida@aol.com >Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR fuck #sfraves >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:00:14 EDT > >WHAT IS "IRC"? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 10:02:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15997 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 10:02:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405100201.15996.qmail@hyperreal.org> Received: (qmail 15988 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 10:01:59 -0000 Received: from latte.2xtreme.net (208.147.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 10:01:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 26522 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 10:02:50 -0000 Received: from p180.stk3.2xtreme.net (HELO omzz) (organic@209.21.55.180) by latte.2xtreme.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 10:02:50 -0000 X-Sender: omz@mail.2xtreme.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 02:46:50 -0600 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: omz Subject: any reviews for escape from sf boat party? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ???? omz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 11:53:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5319 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 11:53:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 5309 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 11:53:46 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 11:53:46 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3YCQa02395; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:55:47 -0500 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <74b16380.2439fec3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:55:47 EDT Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: ki@cloudfactory.org, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know, Ki, I've never supported or even liked any of Vlad's parties all that much, but c'mon. Grow up! There is this little button on most e-mail accounts titled "DELETE". Jeez, talk about holding a grudge... And by the way, you brought it to the list first. Let him run his business, and you can do your little underground techno parties. LIVE AND LET LIVE. Easy enough? In a message dated 4/4/99 9:16:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, ki@cloudfactory.org writes: << Ok. so i tried to be nice and professional and keep this issue off the list but someone has decided to make it public. Read and reread Vlad's post. It seems he is showing his true colors on this one. do you really want to handle this man to man vlad? is that how you respond when someone wants you to take them off your SPAM list? how can you constantly preach plur(to sell more tix) and then be so violent at the same time? you're a hypocrite plain and simple and you were stupid enough to show who you really are to a list of 300 people who you consider your customers. not a smart business move if you ask me but i understand that it's hard trying to fake being someone you really aren't. you really stuck your foot and your multi page way too big glossy, wasteful, unecessary flyers in your mouth on this one. now on to the topic at hand. 1. this IS NOT a cloudfactory attempt to take you down. where did you get that idea? b/c my addy just happens to be ki@cloudfactory.org? this is just another example of your intelligence level. please do not make assumptions that i am speaking for cloudfactory, I am NOT. 2. So everyone, let me explain how this entire mess has transpired. Vlad has been collecting email messages from people who write into Sfraves and putting them(without the consent of the person) on his own email list. He has than been sending out SPAM to said list about his events. I received one about a months or so ago. I then made it very clear that i wanted him to take me off of his list and to never email me again. He first denied that he ever sent it to me in the first place even tho' the headers came straight from his addy. yet another example of his intelligence(or lack of). He never took me off the list. I have a bunch of friends who have asked hime to take them off the list and again he ahas not complied. i took it upon myselft to call his isp and file a formal complaint regarding his spamming and the fact that he was denying it. They said they would close his account temporarily until he called them and they would tell him he cannot send out unsoliceted spam. He still did not take me off the list as i received another spame from him last week. The whole issue would have been dropped at this point if you would have simply taken me off the list. he didn't respect me enought to do so. why should he right? he's the big promoter and he can make my life miserable right? like putting my face on every one of his flyers. So i called his isp again and they said if i could get a few people to send them the original message with the original headers included they would close his account down permanently. that is when i wrote to the list and asked people to write me PRIVATELY regarding the matter. i wanted to keep this drama off the list. Vlad didn't. so if you agree with me on this issue and want to help me stop a spammer than please write me PRIVATELY and I'll let you know what you need to do to file the complaint and show a spammer that they must respect people enough to not send them spam after a request to not do so has been made. IMPORTANT: please make sure you have the original spam. it is addressed to HappyRaver@Globalparty.com Thanks for your time. Vlad, i'm sending the message below to your isp. this violent little spout of yours should be more than enough to have your account taken away. Keep it Non violent and Real. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 13:07:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17253 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 13:07:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 17244 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 13:07:22 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 13:07:22 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.43) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:10:45 -0800 Message-ID: <3708B5A1.841A124F@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 06:07:46 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: NRR what is irc References: <19990405084222.16152.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IRC = Internet Relay Crack (a sick and evil addiction.) > > > > >WHAT IS "IRC"? > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 13:47:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27518 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 13:47:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 27500 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 13:47:25 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 13:47:25 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.90] (congo-90.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.90]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08477; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:47:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:04:51 -0800 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Surrender to the fact that life isn't fair. ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 14:05:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2049 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 14:05:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 2038 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 14:05:07 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 14:05:07 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.90] (congo-90.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.90]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12913; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:04:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3708B5A1.841A124F@geocities.com> References: <19990405084222.16152.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:19:35 -0800 To: Paul Sober , SFRAVES From: Deepfog Subject: Re: NRR what is irc Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well there is a side to it that is nice, for instance i have met tons of people i would have not otherwise met. but you have to watch out for the people that don't have a lot going for them in life and like to sit around and talk about everybody else's everything (gossip). and some people like to fuck with you for no apparent reason other than At 5:07 AM -0800 05-04-1999, Paul Sober wrote: >IRC = Internet Relay Crack (a sick and evil addiction.) > >> >> > >> >WHAT IS "IRC"? >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 15:51:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8056 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 15:51:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 8047 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 15:51:49 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 15:51:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405155059.20923.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.75.97.8] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 08:50:59 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:50:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jen Stiling Subject: Re: About Feel Good Friday, and other thoughts. To: Ray Vonie , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Vlad- Speaking as one who was at FGF to set up, I can say the intent of this party was true in it's aim. The vibe and energy were nothing but good, and truly came from the heart. I am sorry not everyone was able to look at your track record and see this, but instead chose to be selfish and ruin everyone's night after so much thought and effort had already gone into it. I was especially impressed at the way the entire incident was handled. Truly professional! After the cops shut it down, everyone there rallied together to see if another place could be found, and the party could still happen. That's going the extra mile. Taking a chance and still trying to make a few people happy. It shouldn't go unnoticed, and certainly shouldn't go unappreciated! I am fairly new to the scene- but this was a good example to me of how people can work together for everyone's benefit. The work was not in vain, a lesson was learned, and will be taken and incorporated into the parties from now on. Many thanks to you for being the generous teacher of that lesson. Looking forward to the next one! Love and appreciation to everyone at Feel Good, Jen --- Ray Vonie wrote: > Hi Everyone... I'd like to first thank all > the wonderful people > that have sent all the encouraging, positive, and > supportive e-mails to > me. You have really cheered me up. I would also > like to apologize to > everyone else for Feel Good Friday not happening... > We know that a lot > of you were looking forward to this, as much as we > were looking forward > to sharing it with you, and despite all the positive > energy that was put > forth to make this party.. Things still went really > wrong. Our > intention was to bring you guys a small, intimate, > inexpensive, and > incredible party. Like we used to do back in the > days before, and to > give the whole crew a chance to actually party and > enjoy one, instead of > running around all night working. > But unfortunately Not everyone on this list > is here for the same > reasons. Have you ever asked yourselves why there > are over 400+ > subscribers to this list, but only a handful of > maybe 80 active > posters? Who are all those other subscribers that > get this list, and > what do they do with the information on it? Well > Friday was a perfect > example of how easy it is for someone to misuse info > off this list and > use it to shut down a party by panicking the police > into having a > knee-jerk reaction and overreacting towards a > situation that they felt > was a ticking time bomb waiting to explode in their > city. > The police REALLY thought that it was going > to be some sort of > insane and out of control mob scene. I guess you > can't blame them... > they are only cops, and have an obligation to THEIR > community... not > ours. However... their handling of the situation > left much to be > proud of. I respect the police when they do > their job to prevent > crime, but not when they act with discrimination, > out of fear, in the > mane of crime prevention. It's messed up, and a > violation of OUR civil > liberties. Innocent first!!! The cops > basically told the > management : "Hey.. this is what's going on here > tonight... and either > you do the right thing and pull the plug on this > party, or we can pull > the plug on YOU" ... Not in these exact words.. but > it was just as cut > and dry. > For those of you that think there is a good > legal case here... > forget about it... I'm not interested... It's just > a big waste of time, > and the only people who gain anything from it are > the bottom feeder > lawyers and it would just bring more negative > visibility onto this > scene. So I'm not interested. > But I just wanted you all to know that we > did our best, and > tried our hardest to bring everyone together through > music and > dancing. But some people can't see it for what it > is, and can only see > it through closed minded blinders as "disrespectful > underage drug orgies > with overdoses, and aids needle poking" And these > people will do > whatever it takes to keep their kids from attending > these events. Even > if it means shutting them all down, so their kids > don't have the option > to go. And as unbelievable as this sounds... it's > happening, and > these people are all around us. Even on this list. > Your parents may even subscribe to this > list to see what you > are up to. The police are on this list trying to > angle in on illegal > activity, and big brother is on this list keeping > tabs on everything > else. > PLEASE... Prove your parents and the > media WRONG and party > responsibly. Trust me... Not everyone in this > scene is as nice as they > come across. There are wolves in sheep's clothing > here, and they are > the destroying this culture by polluting it with > drugs, just to come up > the 'so called' easy way... BUT Their is no easy > way... that's the > catch!!! Stop supporting these drug dealers... > they are only here to > make money and care nothing about you, or the music, > or anything but > their profit margin. Be smart and realize that > your actions effect > everyone around you, just like other peoples actions > will effect you. > And not just at the parties, but in all of life. > And pass this > information on to people you care about, so that > everyone knows what's > happening. > I love this culture, and have been > involved in throwing > parties for 8 years... longer that almost every > other promoter out > here... and to me, this culture is like my own > child, that I share the > responsibility of raising with other promoters... > and It's our duty to > protect our children... just the same way that your > parents care and > want to protect you. So please... Save both your > parents and your > promoters a lot of grief by doing the right thing by > them, because the > bottom line is that we all care about your health, > and safety. > Have a happy Easter everyone, Have a > Fun, Safe, and Positive > Spring Break, and always keep it Real. > > Keep it mellow, Vlad > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 16:54:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9512 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 16:54:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 9487 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 16:54:07 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 16:54:07 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id hFJGa18555; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:20:56 -0500 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: <572aeb9b.243a4af8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:20:56 EDT Subject: Re: NRR, Birthday Tree To: anton@fiveartists.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Candida29@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok so what about me???? i'm a leap year baby so what tree am i? you don't have my b-day on there!! i feel so left out!!:( i guess i'm part pine, part willow, huh? i'm mixed!!!:) love & lollipops, candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 16:58:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11112 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 16:58:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 11088 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 16:58:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 16:58:04 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 244 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:55:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3708EEA3.8B2E27D@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:10:59 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: BSP: Full Moon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Spring is finally here and its time for the return of Full Moon. Come on out and celebrate with us under the full moon and the stars. Your cosmic line-up for April 30th- John Howard Rob Doten (Greyhound/Wicked Records) DJ David Coleman w/ SenSei live on keys (Kinetic Grooves recordings) John Rodriguez Eric Erickson TJ Balance Productions http://www.SFHouse.com 415 339 8015 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 17:08:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16494 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 17:08:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 16486 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 17:08:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 17:08:47 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id AEA687900E2; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:11:02 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "SFRaves" Subject: RE: How to get to spin at parties? Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:06:05 -0700 Message-ID: <001301be7f86$9760c7c0$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990403050235.00711bf0@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I want to be a promoter or an organizer or a high ppl... never in my life have i wanted more. >You forgot that they should generally toss salads and give out free oral sex >to the promoters, organizers and high ppl ... >Nuku your jedi bitch, jedi666boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 17:09:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17153 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 17:09:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 17141 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 17:09:20 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 17:09:20 -0000 Received: from Fiercefigs@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vZSFa03192 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:08:32 -0500 (EDT) From: Fiercefigs@aol.com Message-ID: <533f5813.243a4810@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:08:32 EDT Subject: WE ARE SO FRAGILE** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: Fiercefigs@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So I just got back from a wonderful weekend in LA. Woke up thinking that everything was ok said hello to my dog and said hi to my mom Only to be informed of some painful news that my beautiful friend EVA had passed away.WHAT WHAT DO YOU MEAN SHE'S DEAD!!! HOW COULD SHE JUST SLIP INTO A CREEK AND DIE!!!! WHAT ABOUT HER BOYFRIEND AND HER FAMILY!!!WHAT THE FUCK I just can't get it through my brain that my lovely Eva is gone so strong so beautiful so full of energy and life. Just know that you are very fragile and that this beautiful life can be gone so quickly. I love you Eva wherever you are and hope to smoke bowls with you on soft silky clouds in heaven some day. I will love and miss you fragile flame eternally saddened of your loss Fiona ;( ;( PS. Please take time to silence yourself and send her friends and family a wave energy of love and healing From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 17:16:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22410 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 17:16:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22394 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 17:16:01 -0000 Received: from cloudfactory.org (HELO stratus.cloudfactory.org) (kati@205.179.129.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 17:16:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (kati@localhost) by stratus.cloudfactory.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA03794; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:15:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:15:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Kati Fleming To: Ray Vonie cc: Ki , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: nrr...if you've received spam from... In-Reply-To: <3706B435.7495BABA@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Is being a cock blocking player hater > what you and your whole Cloudfactory Organization are about? I don't know about the rest of the lot, but that's sure as hell what I'm all about!!! Kati Fleming = "cock blocking player hater" Damn - I like the sound of that!!!! xoxox, kati (keepin' it _real_ good with FeEl Good) hahahahah!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 17:20:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25369 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 17:20:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 25194 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 17:20:07 -0000 Received: from web114.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.86) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 17:20:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405172130.26637.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web114.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:21:30 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:21:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: RE: How to get to spin at parties? To: SFRaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I guess this is where they got the saying, "It is not who you know or how you blow; it how you blow who you know." =Þ *HUGZ* pat > >You forgot that they should generally toss salads > and give out free oral > sex > >to the promoters, organizers and high ppl ... > >Nuku > > your jedi bitch, > jedi666boy > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 17:57:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23265 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 17:57:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23053 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 17:57:00 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 17:57:00 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02265 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990405105920.00808b10@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:59:20 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: <> The Matrix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alright.. until I saw this movie I really hated keanu... but this movie was so incredible I can actually forgive him for SPEED... need I say more. This movie is unbelievable... my boyfriend and I couldnt stop philosophising and talking about this for hours.... such a good movie. And the effects are amazing... even if you dont like the plot, etc.... its just neat to look at. Just my opinion :) -Carly >>i tottaly aggree with elias deffinatly c this movy >>elias_smith@juno.com writes: >> >><< Fuck yeah. See this movie, see this movie, see this movie. >> It cheeses out at certain points, but is worth it. It's so freakin' good, >> you're actually not bothered by the fact that you are watching Keanu >> Reeves try and do martial arts! >> See this movie, see this movie, see this movie... >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> >> >> >> >> *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 17:57:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23330 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 17:57:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 23092 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 17:57:06 -0000 Received: from tcsi.com (HELO gateway.tcsi.com) (137.134.47.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 17:57:06 -0000 Received: from almd-ms.tcsi.com (almd-ms.tcsi.com [137.134.4.21]) by gateway.tcsi.com (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA13466 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waxwing (waxwing.tcsi.com [137.134.4.208]) by almd-ms.tcsi.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA04479 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Victor Wiewiorowski Received: (victorw@localhost) by waxwing (SMI-8.6/8.6.10) id KAA05572 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:57:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199904051757.KAA05572@waxwing> Subject: escape from sf boat party, chemistry @ecco, sj To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19990405100201.15996.qmail@hyperreal.org> from "omz" at Apr 5, 99 02:46:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It was ok, lots of drunk irishmen, clubby crowd. ok music. but i expected all that, only went to hang with friends who bougt tickets before i had a chance to warn them. The bulletproof party should be better (more people, better visuals, perhaps better music), and the sunset one even more so (less drunks, more ravers). -. victor ._ p.s. while i'm on the soapbox - chemistry at club ecco on sunday, on the other hand was a wonderfull surprise, cool people, *great* music in three rooms, ranging from the `this-is-99-happy-happy-trance', to funky house, and crazy shit, one dj dropped a superb remix of Bjork-bachelorrete, she rules my world. there was even a live pa (moda someone said?), tho' by the time they went on at midnight i, and most, were too pooped to dance to high energy trance. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 18:27:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14088 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 18:27:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14078 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 18:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nowhip.axxa.com) (209.125.14.135) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 18:27:14 -0000 Received: by NOWHIP with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2KN36QBJ>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:23:19 -0700 Message-ID: <07A1D6538AB1D211AD250090273D12D412F093@NOWHIP> From: Richard Baldwin To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: <> The Matrix Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:23:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Excellent indeed. The story concept was fresh! The story telling was fresh and the effects....breath taking. My heart was pounding through the whole thing...The movie moves so fast you don't even realize that Keanu is the star. He does a very good job of looking confused and bewildered through out the film. :-) Highly recommended. R. -----Original Message----- From: Carly Bourne [mailto:cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu] Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 10:59 AM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: <> The Matrix Alright.. until I saw this movie I really hated keanu... but this movie was so incredible I can actually forgive him for SPEED... need I say more. This movie is unbelievable... my boyfriend and I couldnt stop philosophising and talking about this for hours.... such a good movie. And the effects are amazing... even if you dont like the plot, etc.... its just neat to look at. Just my opinion :) -Carly >>i tottaly aggree with elias deffinatly c this movy >>elias_smith@juno.com writes: >> >><< Fuck yeah. See this movie, see this movie, see this movie. >> It cheeses out at certain points, but is worth it. It's so freakin' good, >> you're actually not bothered by the fact that you are watching Keanu >> Reeves try and do martial arts! >> See this movie, see this movie, see this movie... >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> >> >> >> >> *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 18:34:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18630 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 18:34:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 18610 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 18:34:29 -0000 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 18:34:29 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id LAA07029; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:34:26 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Reply-To: unclenoah Subject: Re: <> The Matrix To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990405105920.00808b10@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay, i saw The Matrix. Keanu was still best in Bill & Ted, but he's tolerable in this one. the effects are amazing, i have to agree with everyone here. they really flow well and you almost can't see where the CGI takes over the frames. i was expecting a really interesting, possibly confusing plot out of this one and i was a little disappointed on that end. the movie reminded me very much of 'Tron' a movie Disney made in the early 80's about Jeff Bridges getting sucked into a computer... i kept expecting Keanu to say, "Let's see some User power!" and then toss his disc at the evil MCP! :D On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Carly Bourne wrote: > > Alright.. until I saw this movie I really hated keanu... but this movie was > so incredible I can actually forgive him for SPEED... need I say more. > This movie is unbelievable... my boyfriend and I couldnt stop > philosophising and talking about this for hours.... such a good movie. And > the effects are amazing... even if you dont like the plot, etc.... its just > neat to look at. > > Just my opinion :) > -Carly > > >>i tottaly aggree with elias deffinatly c this movy > >>elias_smith@juno.com writes: > >> > >><< Fuck yeah. See this movie, see this movie, see this movie. > >> It cheeses out at certain points, but is worth it. It's so freakin' good, > >> you're actually not bothered by the fact that you are watching Keanu > >> Reeves try and do martial arts! > >> See this movie, see this movie, see this movie... > >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 > BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GTA - "The Parti EP" Orbit Trnsmission 007 available now at your local record shop. info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 18:38:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22629 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 18:38:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 22618 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 18:38:35 -0000 Received: from law-f107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.170) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 18:38:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 49669 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 18:38:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405183808.49668.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.71.226 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:38:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.71.226] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: Gammbino@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: QuEstion§ 0n Harmony Springtime FLower Fest Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:38:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, this party is going to go off without a hitch, the vibe will be in true Harmony style, so get all dressed up and join your best good raver freinds for a production that will blow your mind..... Harmony survives the scene as one of the only parties to repeatedly have a good solid old-school family vibe and this party will in no way fail that calling...... So from one of the die-hard crew members,. . . Peace and Love and I'll see you there with your smile and super-festive garb. . . . thanks for the support, we'll see you there. . . Peace and Love Raoul trancebaby ps yes this party is going to be hella-fat with Angel Alanis and Christopher Lawrence and the rest of the line-up you can't go wrong. . . Peace >From: Gammbino@aol.com >Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: QuEstion§ 0n Harmony Springtime FLower Fest >Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 18:52:17 EDT > >Hey Everyone!!! =) I heard that "The Gathering" was hella phat ass! >IAll though I couldn't go I had a sorta good time at home with my black light >and music...how lame huh Anyways I wanted to know if any of you out there are >going to Harmony's "The Sprintime Flower FEstival" ?¿ because before I get >my ticket I wanted to know if you all think this will be phat enough to feel >the good vibes. > > Well let me know thanks. Oh ya and if you have more info on it like where >its gonna be that'd be great too!! > > Bye > PLUR > KêñT From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 19:03:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8917 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 19:03:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 8899 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 19:03:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.etrade.com) (204.5.38.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 19:03:39 -0000 Received: from bayarea.net (pc0327.etrade.com [204.163.200.157]) by mx.etrade.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03243; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370906C5.3557D6F9@bayarea.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:53:57 -0700 From: Jim Maze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: NRR: Consciousness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All.....thought some of you might enjoy this new list. I signed up a week ago, and every day you get a new excercise that is designed to excercise and expand your consciousness. I've included today's excercise so that you can get a taste of what you would be receiving each day. Here's today's exercise. Enjoy. ----------------------------------------------------------- Consciousness Exercise #121 This is an extremely effective exercise if done as instructed. You will be experiencing a series of "jumps". Do not rush this experiment. Take one jump at a time. The more you take your time, the more powerful will your results be. If possible, get someone to read this experiment's instructions to you as you sit with eyes closed and follow them. · Close your eyes and feel the various parts of your body. Try to distinguish the sensations of the more inner parts from the sensations coming from the parts of your body that are reporting contact with your clothing, the chair you are sitting on, the floor being sensed beneath your feet, etc. Try to feel the inside of your head, between your eyes, inside the nasal passages, the deeper parts of your mouth cavity. Try to feel your eardrums actually capturing sounds. Feel--don't listen--feel your eardrums being moved by the sound waves crashing into them. Feel the inside of your throat and neck. Practice "scooting around the body" to "visit" these various sensations. · Jump One. After a few minutes of this "practice", now, in your mind's eye, with eyes still closed, imagine that you can sense yourself ranging throughout your immediate environment as if it were also your body. Pretend you are getting "reports" or "sensations" or "some sort of information" from the nearby objects in the room. To whatever extent you can, sense the presence of the objects of the room--even though your eyes are closed. This sense may simply be a conviction on your part that you "know" that the desk is "there". Pretend you can "somehow" feel the desk, the chair, the floor, the other furniture in the room, and finally feel the presence of the walls of the room like "another skin" around you. "Scoot around the room" like this for a few minutes with your imagination. Feel that the room is completely filled with your aliveness, your consciousness. Sense that every speck of space in the room has you within it. · Jump Two. After a few minutes, "break out" of the room Ask yourself, · What part of this experiment was real? Are bodily sensations more important or more real than the experiences I call "my mind's imaginations?" What is the value of these pretended experiences? · Is my consciousness limited to my nervous system? What is the difference between the dead layer of skin that covers me and the dead layer of clothing that covers me? Where do "I" end? · What is the difference between putting my attention on a particular "object of my senses" and being a "screen" upon which all my experiences are being projected? Is putting my attention on something more of an example of "the real me" than that "me" that universally accepts input from all of my senses simultaneously? · What are the moral and spiritual implications of having a belief that I am a spirit that can "inhabit" my surroundings? Is this "allowed" by me? Does this concept make sense when fitted into my whole set of spiritual beliefs? · How would I go about differentiating one soul from another soul? Is the history of the experiences of those souls the only way I have to tell them apart? How does God differentiate two "fresh souls" that have yet to have ever had even a single experience? · What is the difference between what I call "me" and "my soul"? · What is the difference between what I call "me" and "consciousness"? · What is the difference between "my consciousness" and "your consciousness"? · If the being that this consciousness experiment ended up encompassing were to meet the "other beings" of the other persons conducting this consciousness experiment across the internet, how would they be different from each other? ----------------------------------------------------------- These exercises are sent to you before they are put into the Web site's database and by receiving them via email, you also are certain to see them all, whereas the online exercises are served up at random. General guidelines: You are the source of the answers. Be scientific about yourself and conduct these experiments with the intent to discover your subtle workings. Trust yourself in this process, and it will bring a greater sense of inner authority to your life and your self image. These exercises will allow you to discover your creative powers to intelligently think and be a conscious participant in ways that can add immeasurably to your empowerment. These exercises will reveal psychological dynamics that you can control. This will gradually give you conscious ways to replace unconscious patterns which typically "decide your life" for you. Some of these experiments are "light", but others are "heavy" and require a much greater effort to conduct. Conduct an experiment only if you feel you can actually complete it, and thus establish a habit of success with them. Thanks again for signing up! Best Regards, Edg Duveyoung PS. If you have been sent this email by a friend and want to also receive these daily exercises, please go here and enter your email address: http://www.iqtest.com/view/iqtest/cons From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 19:20:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19774 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 19:20:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19711 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 19:20:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.etrade.com) (204.5.38.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 19:20:20 -0000 Received: from bayarea.net (pc0327.etrade.com [204.163.200.157]) by mx.etrade.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05518; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37090AC1.5237E70B@bayarea.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:10:57 -0700 From: Jim Maze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: NRR: Consciousness - Part II Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DOH!! Guess I really need these excercises.....sorry 'bout that! Here are the rest of the jumps...... · Jump Two. After a few minutes, "break out" of the room. Pretend that you now can range freely around the entire structure of the building you are in. Do NOT imagine yourself traveling around the building like a ghost; instead, actually feel that you are being in every part of the building simultaneously--JUST LIKE YOU NOW FEEL YOU ARE IN EVERY PART OF YOUR BODY. Fill the building with "you", with your living presence. Take a minute or two to gain a bit of comfort doing this, or rather, BEING this. · Jump Three. Now take a breath, let it out, and as you breathe out, fill up your neighborhood with consciousness. Pretend you are the life breath, the soul, of the entire area in which you live. All the buildings, all the people, all the animals, the wind, EVERYTHING is filled with your spirit. Scoot around in your imagination for a few minutes. Everywhere you go, there you are already. Like your hands or feet have always been filled with you, feel the various "parts of you" in the neighborhood being similarly filled. But, understand that everything is instantly available to you by merely putting your attention on it. There's no "waiting" for more distant "parts of you" to "report in". No part of you is farther from you in terms of time. · Jump Four. After a little comfort is gained, take another deep breath and fill up all the land around you with awareness as you exhale. Blossom yourself to huge proportion. Pretend that the seacoasts are like your toes and finger tips. Feel the immense dynamism of the detailed world that is full with your loving grace and support. Feel like the one soul that pervades everything. See that everything is IMMEDIATELY available to you--just a glancing or listening and instantly that part of you reports in with some data. Imagine smelling the sea air on one coast, instantly seeing a silent bird gliding up a mountain slope and then immediately hearing the waves of the other coast. · Jump Five. Now, take another deep breath, and fill the earth with your spirit. Say "hello" to the universe as you "try on" your Earth-body. Open your spiritual eyes to scan the vast reaches around you. Feel the majesty of your new self, a magnificent planet with billions upon billions of lives complexly intertwined. Feel the serenity of space as you bask in the pleasure of being so vibrantly alive with awareness. · Jump Six. Fill up the universe. Do not waste time with filling only our galaxy, fill the whole of space and time. Fill it all. Pretend that the billions of galaxies are like cells of your body. Delight in the fullness of your almost infinite resources. Countless lives experiencing an endless parade of feelings, emotions, thoughts, birth and death. Feel the intimate ownership of everything. Instantly across billions of light years of distance you find yourself "already there" wherever you gaze. Feel how far beyond ordinary concerns you are. Millions of your units are dying and millions are being born. Incredible changes are happening by the instant, but you are unchanged by any of it. You are filling up everything. You support all. Glory surrounds you like a cloud of light. · Jump Seven. See that the magnificence of all this is merely an object that is within your attention. The immensity that you are, with your myriad bodies and the wisdom of millions of cultures, is but a small blip, just something to perceive, a THING, a very tiny precious jewel in a vast infinite consciousness that is completely unbounded by any limitations. Feel yourself to be, as you have always been, an all pervading awareness that is everywhere, every time simultaneously. You contain all of it, and it is exceedingly small compared to the vastness of your presence. Know yourself to be pure, absolute and beyond everything. · Jump Eight. Give up all conceptualizations, feelings, sensations, memories, values, qualities, and physicality. You are that that is beyond all these things including the consciousness that is aware of them for you. Understand that consciousness loves the universe and loves creating thoughts about it and presenting them to YOU. See that the infinite resourcefulness of consciousness is there for you to witness as it conveys the universe to you. See that these thoughts about consciousness and its infinity are being created by consciousness, not you. You are the witness of it all, the soul of consciousness, the source of consciousness itself. You cannot be described, but yet you are. Beyond all concept, you are. Completely beyond. · Jump Nine. From out of this infinity, watch as consciousness seeks to please you--even though you do not need any THING. Watch as consciousness brings to you the vision of one of your bodies sitting in a room with eyes closed with its small individual spark of consciousness. Watch as consciousness introduces this individual to the unlimited potentiality of itself. Feel the surge of pure love that consciousness has for this small spark. Watch the blessing of pure compassion flood this individual as the entirety of creation is found securely and comfortably residing within. Feel the circle being completed. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 19:32:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27453 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 19:32:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 27439 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 19:32:13 -0000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (17.254.0.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 19:32:13 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13198 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:25:49 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (scv2.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (mailgate1.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:25:49 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv2.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA16032 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:25:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199904051925.MAA16032@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Flame inside-- please be advised-- chemistry @ecco, sj Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:25:48 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On 4/5/99 10:56 AM Victor Wiewiorowski wrote: >p.s. while i'm on the soapbox - chemistry at club ecco on sunday, on >the other hand was a wonderfull surprise..... Not that I'm going to go off on wann-be Club Ecco, but IT SUX!! I really hate the security, they walk around like a bunch of f*ck'in gangstas'- ready to start a brawl with anyone. And that's just the beginning, IMHO the people who run Club Ecco are clue less on how to create a _good_ positive party atmosphere. I really feel the pain for us South Bayers, if Club ecco is the best we can do-- it's a sad sad day.... Although, I will say that the people there were really kEwl and deserve a much better cheaper party... WORD bbong From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 19:38:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29855 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 19:38:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 29846 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 19:38:06 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 19:38:06 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vXCLa22218 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:59:35 -0500 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:59:35 EDT Subject: NRR: Tattoo! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just curious to know if there are any artists or graphic artists who would be interested in drawing up my tattoo? I have the idea in my mind, I just need help having it laid out. If you would like to help please email me privately. Thanks. Peace M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 19:59:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16693 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 19:59:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 16523 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 19:59:52 -0000 Received: from fes-qout.whowhere.com (HELO mailcity.com) (209.1.236.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 19:59:52 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Mon Apr 5 12:59:18 1999 To: "SFRaves" , "Rick" Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:59:18 -0800 From: "Pantera King" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: RE: How to get to spin at parties? X-Sender-Ip: 209.185.110.113 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Awright. I say go get some reKKids, put 'em in a crate, go to a party, push your way to the front, tell the DJ "I'm next, you got 10 minutes", once off the dex proceed to rock the bollocks. If you're serious, this is the only way to do it. Everyone else who is a name-brand DJ used this technic with good results. Just dew it. -- On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:06:05 Rick wrote: >I want to be a promoter or an organizer or a high ppl... >never in my life have i wanted more. > >>You forgot that they should generally toss salads and give out free oral >sex >>to the promoters, organizers and high ppl ... >>Nuku > >your jedi bitch, >jedi666boy > > > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 20:05:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22761 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 20:05:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 22753 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 20:05:39 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:05:39 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-232.dsp.com [204.118.76.232]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA30504; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:08:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199904052008.NAA30504@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:03:06 -0700 To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Heya, As a longtime fixture in the tattoo community, I would recommend that you talk to a great tattoo artist and have them, ahem, flesh it out for you, and tattoo it. If you don't have an artist who can do that, don't let them carve in your skin! Only exceptional people should be collaborating with exceptional you; you don't need someone who merely has the technical ability (and one who is not an artist is probably not a great technician)!!! Personal recommendations: Troy Denning at Primal Urge (SF) (anyone else there, too, but he's my favorite. we've worked together alot. he's the first person I let produce art for me - I started out by drawing for tattooists and did all the art for all my tattoos except a very few) Iggy or Mike at Everlasting (SF) Scott at 222 Tattoo (SF) Will at Zebra (Berkeley) Patrick at East Side Ink (NYC) Collaborating with friends is great, but art for the skin and art for a flat 2-dimmensional medium are very very different - but MOSTLY you need a good artist and a good person to tattoo you. Love, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 20:30:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7907 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 20:30:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 7719 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 20:29:58 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:29:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405203010.10091.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web135.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:30:10 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:30:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: My Gathering thoughts (and more) To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Over all it was pretty good event. One of the better massives I been to. When I heard where it was going to be, I was kinda bummed. I went to the last Gathering there and the sound was bouncing all over the place and you could hear one room from another. But this time, THEY DID IT RIGHT. :D The sound quality was so much better. I have to give props to the lighting crew in the main room. Although I wasn't in the main room much. I was kinda wary on being in there. That whole pit thing made me feel uneasy. I thought someone was going to fall off the edge or something. Which brings up another point, there seemed to be more than the normal amount of "high rollers" there. I could begin to count the number of times I heard the comment, "Man, I've NEVER rolled so hard in my life." and that was just those that could still speak. I'm not going to condem anyone for rolling. It is just that I can't see the point of becoming a lifeless massive of flesh. Exspecally seeings how it cost so much to get in parties these days. People need to know their limit on what ever they do. They have to find that balance between feeling good and still being able to do something about it. Ok, where was everyone? What ended up being the "Offical" Meeting Point and time? I don't get to read any of my E-main that comes between Friday Afternoon 'til Monday morning so I never get the last word on things. I tried to go to spots that would be a likily location but finally gave up around 2 to enjoy the rest of the night. While looking though I did come up with one thing. It is kinda korny but if you think about it, there is possiblities with it. Of all the Oakland parties, at least the massives, I've noticed something they all had in commen. Well they all have water, right? Well yes, BUT some have more than one spot. DJs thay all have them. Yes, but that is where EVERYONE else is at. Hmmm....So what is at most massive and not in a conjested area??? THE GLOW STICK COWBOY!!! I forget his name, but I've seen him at just about every party I've went to in Oakland since Megga Buzz Works, which was my first and he always has his hat and glow sticks. I hate to single out a person like this, but as I was watching him do his magic at the Gathering the idea came to me. If he's on the list and reads this I hope this wont be embrassing for you. I'm pretty sure that everyone knows who I'm talking about. I tried to take a picture of him at Love-A-Fair. I was trying to take pictures of glow stick that left trails, but I can't adjust the shutter speed on my camera. I tried to use 100 film, but instead of getting trails everything came out pretty clear with the exception of those I took while my camera got all fogged up. So, I have a photo of him along with a bunch of other that I'm waiting to be able to sneak down to the computer here at work that has a scanner. Anyhoo, that's just my suggestion on where to meet for the next one, an easy to find spot. Just as long as he doesn't start going incognito. ;) Well back to the party, Other than what I stated above, I thought this a great event and I'm already waiting for the next Gathering. =Þ *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 20:42:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14058 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 20:42:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 14036 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 20:42:20 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:42:20 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02356; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2LPR5GYM>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:38:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'Sfraves@hyperreal.org'" , "'adina0505@aol.com'" , "'CKBayor@aol.com'" , "'eyeawake@hotmail.com'" , "'sevennone@hotmail.com'" , "'sladew@hotmail.com'" , "'jesse_1977@hotmail.com'" , "'cranberry@jps.net'" , "'daniel_Hunt@hotmail.com'" , Crystal Christison Subject: NRR: Choo-Choo Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:38:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A few days after Christmas, a mother was working in the kitchen and listening to her son play with his new electric train set in the living room. She heard the train stop and her son said, "All of you sons of bitches who want off, get the hell off now because this is the last stop. All of you sons of bitches who are getting on, get your asses on the train now because we're leaving." The mother went into the living room and told her son, " We don't use that kind of language in this house. Now go to your room for two hours." When you come down, you may play with your trains as long as you use proper language." Two hours later, the mother was still working in the kitchen when her son came out of his room and resumed playing with his trains. The train stopped and the mother heard, "All passengers disembarking the train, please remember to take all of your belongings. We thank you for riding with us today and hope your trip was a pleasant one. "For those just boarding, we ask that you stow your hand luggage under the seat and we hope you enjoy your trip. "For those of you who are pissed off about the two hour delay, please see the bitch in the kitchen." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 20:44:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16014 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 20:44:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 16005 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 20:44:25 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:44:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405204335.15545.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.11] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:43:35 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:43:35 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo! To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i've heard nothing but things about Patrick from Everlasting. Everlasting is really famous for doing crazy psychodelic colors. i would never get something like that but people seem to like them. if you see anyone in the city with blinding colors on thier skin chances are they got them at Everlasting. 222 is also a really good store. some people say it's kind of pricey but i think it's the kind of investment that's worth it in the long run. --- BigM009@aol.com wrote: > Just curious to know if there are any artists or > graphic artists who would be > interested in drawing up my tattoo? I have the idea > in my mind, I just need > help having it laid out. If you would like to help > please email me > privately. Thanks. Peace M > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 20:50:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20328 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 20:50:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20206 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 20:50:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anlsf.com) (206.79.166.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:50:32 -0000 Received: from astrojax ([206.79.166.2]) by anlsf.com (Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) with SMTP id 8825674A.0072A860; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:52:22 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990405134737.008d8b50@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:47:37 -0700 To: Jessica Webster From: deepbeep Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo! Cc: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <199904052008.NAA30504@mail.dsp.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would definitely have to agree with Jessica on this one. Having your tattoo artist do the design is an essential part of their job, and will give them much more satisfaction and pleasure in working on you than if you simply walk in with a finished drawing and tell them "this, on my shoulder/back/calf/sundry body part". S/He will also know how to design your piece so it will translate to skin most efficiently and elegantly. You're lucky you're in SF tho, because this city has one of the biggest talent pools by far when it comes to tattoo work. It's important to meet with your tattoo artist beforehand, to make sure you actually get along fairly well (at least, for me it was). This does depend on the size of the work you're getting done... Some pieces are smaller than others, and are a one-shot-deal... In my case, I've got 15 hours of needletime into my back, and probably need at least another 15 to get it to a semi-finished state. If I'm spending 30 hours with someone who's gonna be poking me with needles, we better have something to talk about! ;) In addition to Jessica's reccommendations, I'd like to put in a plug for Barnaby Williams at his shop, Mom's Body Shop (haight & masonic)... both he and Cecilia there do outstanding work. So... do some research, and start saving your pennies, cuz this crap's addictive :) :::hugs::: d. At 01:03 PM 4/5/99 -0700, Jessica Webster wrote: >Heya, > >As a longtime fixture in the tattoo community, I would recommend that you >talk to a great tattoo artist and have them, ahem, flesh it out for you, >and tattoo it. > >If you don't have an artist who can do that, don't let them carve in your >skin! Only exceptional people should be collaborating with exceptional >you; you don't need someone who merely has the technical ability (and one >who is not an artist is probably not a great technician)!!! > >Personal recommendations: > >Troy Denning at Primal Urge (SF) (anyone else there, too, but he's my >favorite. we've worked together alot. he's the first person I let produce >art for me - I started out by drawing for tattooists and did all the art >for all my tattoos except a very few) >Iggy or Mike at Everlasting (SF) >Scott at 222 Tattoo (SF) >Will at Zebra (Berkeley) >Patrick at East Side Ink (NYC) > >Collaborating with friends is great, but art for the skin and art for a >flat 2-dimmensional medium are very very different - but MOSTLY you need a >good artist and a good person to tattoo you. > >Love, > >Jessica > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 20:55:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22353 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 20:55:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 22344 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 20:55:18 -0000 Received: from web136.yahoomail.com (HELO web601.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:55:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405205648.815.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web136.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:56:48 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:56:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: NRR: Choo-Choo To: Naomi Thompson , "'Sfraves@hyperreal.org'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Cute one, Naomi. :) It brought a sunny sm:)e on this rainy day. *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:00:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27410 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:00:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 27383 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:00:19 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:00:19 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id wZYRa25713; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:58:37 -0500 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <90bdf42e.243a7dfd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:58:37 EDT Subject: Re: escape from sf boat party, chemistry @ecco, sj To: victorw@tcsi.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i LOVE bjork!!!!! she is my goddess!!!!! alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:02:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29044 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:02:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 29026 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:02:42 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:02:42 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-233.dsp.com [204.118.76.233]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA31428; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:05:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199904052105.OAA31428@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:00:02 -0700 To: mike bolger , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo! In-Reply-To: <19990405204335.15545.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hiya! Patrick is at East Side Ink, in NYC, now. He was here last week for a visit, and will be back in July for a week or two, but I think he's only making appts for big pieces and/or regular clients. I could be wrong, but when he was here he had a 3 month waiting list. If you're going to be in NYC, I'd totally recommend calling in advance, faxing in a design idea, and seeing him there - he works Saturdays only right now. He's the nicest tattoo artist I've ever known, and an amazing artist. He's also very quick to develop an idea into a piece: usually like a week is put into a big custom drawing, but Patrick has whipped things up for me in 5 minutes. Honest. Incidentally, Patrick was featured in Skin & Ink a coupla years ago, and Troy (who got his professional start at Everlasting) in last month's International Tattoo Art! And yeah, you can't really beat the guys at 222. Everlasting, Primal Urge, and 222 are the creme de la creme. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:07:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 895 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:07:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 875 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:07:06 -0000 Received: from law-f222.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.160) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:07:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16748 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 21:06:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405210639.16747.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.196.204.95 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:06:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.196.204.95] From: "michael waldren" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Audio impact Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:06:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whats up 415 ravers , I am headed to Audio Impact this weekend and am so pumped. I want to know who else is going and are you as excited as i am. Give me a mail. Peace, "your everyday junglist" Mikey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:08:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2356 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:08:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 2339 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:08:19 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:08:19 -0000 Received: from godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.44]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id QAA14879; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id QAA28103; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:56:03 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: gathering review Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk all in all, i would say gatherin gput on another wonderful night of music, friends and fun. gathering parties are something i will always look forward too. the pre-party excitement never seems to be as great as when i'm in the car on my way to a gathering party. i expected the line to get in to be long and take a while, so that didn't bother me. when i got in, i was really impressed at how the place looked. i've been to 85th and baldwin many times, and each time it looks different. saturday was no execption. i liked the way the venue was layed out, with the main room having a "pit" and blacony surrounding it, but i thought there were just too many poeple for that design to hold. i think it owuld have been better to have less poeple and keep the layout the same for the main room, or change the layout to hold more poeple comfortably. i didn't spend that much time in the house room for that reason, and i thought that more high energy house could have been played. some sets were the type of house i would have expected in a second room. maybe it's just me, but i like to hear high energy, bumpin house the whole night in the main room, and some chill stuff in the second room. i did like what was being played in the jungle area a lot (can anyone tell me who was playing that really dark jungle set? that was some amazing stuff.) i left early, at around 4:30 because i was really tired and just didn't have the energy left to enjoy the rest of the party, so my review is only up until the time i left. on a whole, i thought the party was a real success, but the music disappointed me a bit. i remember the gathering 6 year anniverary, and i think i was expecting something a long the line of the sets played there (with dj harry from the uk, josh and tony and jeno all blowing the house up like i've never heard before.) i must give my props out to the gathering for another wonderful event, and i can't wait for freedom. to all who went, i hope you all had a great time. i met numerous poeple who said it was their first gathering, and probably not their last. i think my highlight of the night was seeing a girl who i invited to the party show up, having a wonderful time at her first party ever. i couldn't ebelive the smiles across her face, and the big hugs she gave me for bringing her there. another good person just joined our clan. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:08:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2496 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:08:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 2350 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:08:20 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:08:20 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA14793; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:06:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca56-10.ix.netcom.com(209.110.237.202) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma014764; Mon Apr 5 16:06:22 1999 Message-ID: <3709CDA5.E3BAA2C6@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 02:02:31 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainmnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ki CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, If you insist on doing this the hard way... Ki wrote: > Ok. so i tried to be nice and professional and keep this issue off the > list but someone has decided to make it public. In the first place, nice people don't hold grudges over bullshit... and secondly... you're the one who brought this to the list. You could have just e-mailed me privately, but that would have been to nice of a thing to do. > Read and reread Vlad's post. It seems he is showing his true colors on > this one. do you really want to handle this man to man vlad? oh, you bet i would... But I just realized that only ONE of us is a man. > is that how > you respond when someone wants you to take them off your SPAM list? No it's how a I respond when I'm being attacked. I doubt that this is how you treat all your spam, going after peoples providers.. It's obviously a personal issue being played out here. > how > can you constantly preach plur(to sell more tix) and then be so violent at > the same time? you're a hypocrite plain and simple and you were stupid > enough to show who you really are to a list of 300 people who you consider > your customers. They're not my customers... you moron. If you were are actually on this list then you would know that!!! > not a smart business move if you ask me but i understand > that it's hard trying to fake being someone you really aren't. you really > stuck your foot and your multi page way too big glossy, wasteful, > unecessary flyers in your mouth on this one. Anyone that read this can obviously tell that this is more than just about stopping any additional receipt of spam e-mail from me. You're starting shit with me using this e-mail spam as an excuse... it's so obvious to everyone who reads this last thing you wrote about what you think about me and my parties. > now on to the topic at hand. > > 1. this IS NOT a cloudfactory attempt to take you down. where did you > get that idea? b/c my addy just happens to be ki@cloudfactory.org? this > is just another example of your intelligence level. please do not make > assumptions that i am speaking for cloudfactory, I am NOT. Look, you represent them by being one of their members... so don't try to bullshit anyone, Including yourself. A persons actions reflect all those they are associated with... And as far as I'm concerned, you're not in this alone, and others in your group are very aware of what you are doing, and either support you, or are doing nothing to encourage you to back down.,.. In either case... that means They accept your actions, and have let you step forth as their representative. By them doing nothing, means they agree with you... so YOU ARE representing them. Sorry if I had to school you on that... but That's reality. AND if it is all your doing, and you just want to start shit with me, then maybe you shouldn't be so selfish, and have considered others you work with and how it will effect them to be on my bad side... But I guess that would have been way to mature. > 2. So everyone, let me explain how this entire mess has transpired. Vlad > has been collecting email messages from people who write into Sfraves and > putting them(without the consent of the person) on his own email list. He > has than been sending out SPAM to said list about his events. I received > one about a months or so ago. I then made it very clear that i wanted him > to take me off of his list and to never email me again. Those weren't your exact words... but I will spare this list the offensive and graphic reiteration of exactly what you wrote to me, and how you asked. > He first denied > that he ever sent it to me in the first place even tho' the headers came > straight from his addy. yet another example of his intelligence(or lack > of). As I said then, and will AGAIN repeat now... Ki@cloudfactory, is not in my list, and you received it another way, I have checked then and I have checked now, and when I asked you for other e-mail addresses you had that it could be under you never replied and called me a liar. You're the unintelligent one, because I'm not denying that I sent the e-mail, so of course the header will reflect the origin.... But it went BCC... so how do YOU know what address it was sent to, or how it got to you? > He never took me off the list. I have a bunch of friends who have > asked hime to take them off the list and again he ahas not complied. Bullshit!!!! Prove it! Why would I want to send someone party info if they are not interested, and asked me not to send anymore? > i > took it upon myselft to call his isp and file a formal complaint regarding > his spamming and the fact that he was denying it. They said they would > close his account temporarily until he called them and they would tell him > he cannot send out unsoliceted spam. Thanks... I really appreciated that vindictive move. I didn't say anything to you at the time, and let it blow over... but if you think you can Screw me over twice, and laugh about it... man are you ever ignorant. > He still did not take me off the list > as i received another spame from him last week. I guess instead of making all those calls to Netcom, you should have just e-mailed me back with your other e-mail addresses so I could check if they were on my list, and remove them if they were... it's obvious that I do not want you at my parties any more than you want to be there. And Now I'm starting to wonder if it was YOU that was the one that tipped of the Fremont PD about friday, and got our party busted... I wouldn't pass that by you seeing how vindictive and out of line you are. They said that their tip came from information gathered on the internet. And seeing how far you are willing to go in order to negatively impact me with your view of my events... It makes me wonder? I'm going to do some more digging in this with Fremont PD... And I really hope you weren't the one, but at this point, it wouldn't surprise me if you were. > The whole issue would > have been dropped at this point if you would have simply taken me off the > list. The whole issue would have been dropped if you didn't bring it back up. as far as I'm concerned... you're not on my e-mail list, at least not under this e-mail; address. But maybe you subscribe to other list groups that are on my e-mail list, and that's how you received it... but maybe that's too abstract a concept for your narrow mind to grasp. > he didn't respect me enought to do so. why should he right? he's > the big promoter and he can make my life miserable right? like putting my > face on every one of his flyers. It's very obvious what you think of me... and more clear now why you want to fuck with me... and how little it really is about this e-mail spam... and how much this is about your personal attack on me. > So i called his isp again and they said > if i could get a few people to send them the original message with the > original headers included they would close his account down permanently. Like I said... you had your fun... now you are attacking me personally... and you are biting off so much more than you could ever swallow. It's still not to late to back down. You've already lost, why make it any worse. > that is when i wrote to the list and asked people to write me PRIVATELY > regarding the matter. i wanted to keep this drama off the list. Vlad > didn't. LOL:) You just admitted that YOU wrote the list, a list that YOU know Im on, and I READ. How did YOU want to keep this private? Did you think I would just sit by and not say anything? Did YOU ever underestimate me... boy oh boy are you going to learn a valuable lesson over this. > so if you agree with me on this issue and want to help me stop a spammer > than please write me PRIVATELY and I'll let you know what you need to do to > file the complaint and show a spammer that they must respect people enough > to not send them spam after a request to not do so has been made. Everyone sees that this isn't about spam.. it's about your ego. You care nothing about spam... you have made that obvious. What you do care about is being a Player Hater... and all because you can't play, you don't want other's to play either... Im used to it, I see it with parents, cops, and your category... cock blockers. People who screw with others for fun because they think they can get away with it. > IMPORTANT: please make sure you have the original spam. it is addressed > to HappyRaver@Globalparty.com > > Thanks for your time. > > Vlad, > i'm sending the message below to your isp. this violent little spout of > yours should be more than enough to have your account taken away. Go for it... Im sending this one also... so they can see exactly who they are dealing with. once again you made your personal feeling obvious, and anyone at Netcom will see that this has nothing to do with spam, and everything to do with your personal attempt to screw with one of their VALUABLE, and long term customers. Ki... Im giving you one last opportunity do get of my back and figure out which of your e-mail addresses is in my address book so i can remove it. Don't be a schmuck. You can still save yourself and your friends some face... think it through. Im not going to be this generous again with you. The Truth Shall Set You Free... Vlad > Keep it Non violent and Real. > > KI > > At 04:37 PM 4/3/99 -0800, Ray Vonie wrote: > > Oh... This really fucking bites me... You're the person that tried > >to get my netscape account shut down because you got sent an 'unsolicited > >e-mail' inviting you to Love A-Fair. Man can you ever hold a fucking > >grudge for receiving a dam e-mail. Is being a cock blocking player hater > >what you and your whole Cloudfactory Organization are about? Why are you > >out to screw over other promoters??? You're as bad as the parents out > >there trying to shut down the parties because they have no control over > >their children, or the egomaniac cops that screw with promoters for kicks. > >Are you even on this list... I don't recall seeing any posts from you? Why > >don't you get your own life, and a better hobby than being a meddling shit > >disturber. > > Iv told you already before that Your e-mail address has been removed > >from my address book, and I even apologized to you privately for bothering > >you with it... wasn't that enough for you??? Why are you asking others > >to forward you their e-mails? Trying to make a better case of bullshit > >because your last attempt to get my account canceled failed? Are you the > >type of person that has ever kicked someone's ass for being handed a > >flyer... because what you're doing is no different. Why do you want to > >play with me like that? Have you even given this much thought?? I let > >it slide last time, but if you think you can fuck me twice and laugh about > >it... you need a reality check. And this is the last freebie... the next > >one won't be. If you got a beef with me, lets hook up and settle things > >man to man. I'm sure we will come to a quick resolution. > > Shame and pity on you for calling yourself a raver. Sorry if Im > >taking this a bit personally... it's just that genocide makes me nervous. > > > >Keep it REAL... Vlad > > > >Ki wrote: > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> if you've received spam from ray vonie at Feel Good Entertainment last > >> week... > >> and you have the spam still in your mailbox, please write me privately!! > >> > >> thanks! > >> > >> Ki > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:15:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6968 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:15:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 6942 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:15:53 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:15:53 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id zQYAa29801; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:09:52 -0500 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: <21321627.243a80a0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:09:52 EDT Subject: Re: Re: NRR: Tattoo! To: mod79@well.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, jw@wgdsearch.com CC: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Candida29@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, i would REALLY like to get a tattoo!! i already know what i want and where!! the thing is that i've heard so many horror stories and all. i want to get something simple. a heart with a devil's tail and horns and then a halo on top of the horns and angel wings cause it totally fits me!! a little devil and a little angel but all heart!!!:) but anyways, i live in san mateo county!! anyone know any place that is good and yet too pricey?? i went to 222 and the people there were kinda rude cause i've never had tats before and i wasn't too knowledgeble. i think they got impatient with me!! any suggestions?? love & lollipops, candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:20:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9003 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:20:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8773 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:20:06 -0000 Received: from web704.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.24) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:20:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405212148.15736.rocketmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.11] by web704.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:21:48 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:21:48 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: that sunset party To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk had a lot of cholesterol, i guess you could say. very bloated and heavy, but not really painfull or anything, just slightly unhealthy. i'm more of a party snob than a music snob but it was one of those nights where the music on the radio on the ride to the party is the best thing you hear all night. some irish guys that i gave a lift back to civilation called derik carter's set "yesterday's newspaper" but i though it had it's moments. figure heads showed up and all but there was also an abundance of people who i've never seen dance in the sunlight but who are quick to shove you in the back as you pass through thier space. it's funny, i've been seeing faces at parties now for 4+ years and there are some people that i've never, *ever*, seen bust a move, break a sweat, or even shake thier ass. i remember a friend was complaighing once about the luke-warm e he had bought from uncle al. i asked who and was told "that *** guy over there with the ***** that's at every single party" and i remember thinking "oh, that's why that guy never dances. he's a drug dealer. i just thought he was shy." and it's not like i measure a person's worth by how well they can bust out a piece of cardboard and spin on their head, but it's like why do able-bodied people invest so much time and energy on creating this disco persona, but never dance ? it's like going to orgies 3 times a week, never taking off your clothes or touching anyone, and making sarcastic comments from the side lines about how funny people look when they're having an orgasm. but i'm still down for sunsets, that's party's got my love. there are no walls to cling to or strobe lights to hide inbetween. just you, your space, and what you're able to do with it. it's like disco's survival of the fittest. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:24:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10776 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:24:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 10764 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:24:02 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:24:02 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3DEDa03899 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:22:37 -0500 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <7ad0b9e7.243a839d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:22:37 EDT Subject: NRR: Tattoo!~>question? To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WHat about places that specialize in paler, more delicate colors?? I can't really describe what I'm looking for... but who does everyone recommend for tattooing? I'm getting on in ten months hopefullY! (and that should give me enough time to price around and get a piece of artwork that I'm truly satisfied with!) hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:24:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11431 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:24:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 11417 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:24:26 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?01BmdStIzb53cuNjhLJvYaOc8AcUbbQv?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:24:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id OAA21602; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:22:58 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: MacBunny cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: gathering review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > main room, and some chill stuff in the second room. i did like what was > being played in the jungle area a lot (can anyone tell me who was playing > that really dark jungle set? that was some amazing stuff.) i left The only tw bonafide junglisssss I saw on the flyer were Phunckateck's original badbwoy duo Noel and UFO. True veterans inna the bizzness. And if you say "really dark" I would tend tohink it was UFO who has more hair on his face than Noel does, and sort of vibrated/bounces most of the time when he spins. And turns a lot of those mysterious DJ knobs, and moves the levers around. Which reminds me: did you see the Tom Green show from the Ukranian cruiseship with all the college kids on it? When he is trying to get the radio officer to help him call his parents? "Are you using the spoon as a lever? Ostrich starm?? hahahahahahah Also, the one like the Skye just htmlized the Bay Area scene report I did for his page, which is a wicked page indeed, and a springboard to get to some of the most oldschool championship style American drum&bass music websites around: Strictly Jungle Chicago, Forward Bound, Advance Reordings, a new one called Crowd Control, etc. http://jungle.ffwd.com is setting its sights on being the hyperreal.org of the jungle community. As in, they are going to start netcasting this DJ from Estonia's sets sometime soon. This board and the ones in its domain are the creation of my close friends to the north and east, and the product of the original VRave Junglists, come widdit. And speaking of Phunckateck, I learned after having sent inthat scene report that Noel and Juju will be the residents at the crew's new weekly starting Tuesday. Phuncktion: Drum n Bass In Motion with residents Noel and Juju every tuesday beginning April 6 the top 424 Haight St. 10-2 21+ $3 415.789.8000 x1147 www.sfdb.com If you've never been to the Top, it's killer. Nice, small bar, with friendly bartenders, and a wee dancefloor, it's right across the street from Zebra Records, etc, enar the intersection of Haight and Fillmo' 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:24:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12071 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:24:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12061 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:24:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:24:56 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:21:19 -0700 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id 35B7B353EA5C11D282FC00A0C9CFADA2 for plus 2 more; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:21:19 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: "'Ray Vonie'" , "'Ki'" Cc: Subject: RE: nrr...if you've received spam from... Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:24:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01be7faa$a1d7e0c0$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3709CDA5.E3BAA2C6@ix.netcom.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-SLUIDL: 1967E8FF-EA5B11D2-82FC00A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well personally, I would just like to see this drama put to an end. There are people who will side with either person on this one and it shouldn't be divided along "collective" lines. The way I see it, this thing has already gotten out of hand and I don't care to see it go any farther. Both of you should try to let it go because it's not worth the frustration and anger that you are causing each other, and all the crap that is being posted to both lists. Refocus, out with the bad, in with the good :) Vlad, for your information, there has been debate on the CF list since this started and it has NOT been one sided against you. So don't go thinking we're all for OR against you. Just like the SFR list, there are people on either side, and there are people on no side at all. Just thought you'd like to know... -------------------------------- Gerlando From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:29:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14240 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:29:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 14213 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:29:17 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:29:17 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 3CJSa18957 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:28:02 -0500 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <858b38a6.243a84e2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:28:02 EDT Subject: GO! (srr) To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well... it's official.... the movie GO! is coming out on Friday and woohoo... I hope you're all as excited as me to see katie holmes playing a raver (grumble.. how do you go from dawson's creek to raving?) But anyways.. I think you should all dress up nice and cute and get together for a phat party at the movies and go see this one. I know I'll be there!!!! hugs n'stuff, trice the teknodiva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:29:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14860 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:29:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 14723 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:29:43 -0000 Received: from web705.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:29:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405212845.23806.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.11] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:28:45 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:28:45 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: gathering review To: Max McCauley , MacBunny Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > > main room, and some chill stuff in the second > room. i did like what was > > being played in the jungle area a lot (can anyone > tell me who was playing > > that really dark jungle set? that was some > amazing stuff.) i left > > > The only tw bonafide junglisssss I saw on the flyer > were Phunckateck's > original badbwoy duo Noel and UFO. True veterans > inna the bizzness. And > if you say "really dark" I would tend tohink it was > UFO who has more hair > on his face than Noel does, and sort of > vibrated/bounces most of the time not that people know this, but UFO used to be the lead singer of Faith No More. think i lie ? go check out Mike Patton's picture in King For A Day Fool For A Lifetime. > when he spins. And turns a lot of those mysterious > DJ knobs, and moves > the levers around. > > Which reminds me: did you see the Tom Green show > from the Ukranian > cruiseship with all the college kids on it? When he > is trying to get the > radio officer to help him call his parents? "Are > you using the spoon as a > lever? Ostrich starm?? hahahahahahah > > Also, the one like the Skye just htmlized the Bay > Area scene report I did > for his page, which is a wicked page indeed, and a > springboard to get to > some of the most oldschool championship style > American drum&bass music > websites around: Strictly Jungle Chicago, Forward > Bound, Advance > Reordings, a new one called Crowd Control, etc. > http://jungle.ffwd.com is > setting its sights on being the hyperreal.org of the > jungle community. As > in, they are going to start netcasting this DJ from > Estonia's sets > sometime soon. This board and the ones in its > domain are the creation of > my close friends to the north and east, and the > product of the original > VRave Junglists, come widdit. > > And speaking of Phunckateck, I learned after having > sent inthat scene > report that Noel and Juju will be the residents at > the crew's new weekly > starting Tuesday. > > Phuncktion: Drum n Bass In Motion > with residents Noel and Juju > every tuesday beginning April 6 > the top 424 Haight St. > 10-2 21+ $3 > 415.789.8000 x1147 > www.sfdb.com > > If you've never been to the Top, it's killer. Nice, > small bar, with > friendly bartenders, and a wee dancefloor, it's > right across the street > from Zebra Records, etc, enar the intersection of > Haight and Fillmo' > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:31:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16352 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:31:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16334 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:31:43 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:31:43 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-233.dsp.com [204.118.76.233]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA31961; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:34:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199904052134.OAA31961@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:29:08 -0700 To: Candida29@aol.com, mod79@well.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: Re: NRR: Tattoo! Cc: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <21321627.243a80a0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Almost forgot: tattooed people do not use the word tats. At least not in San Francisco. That right there will take you down several notches in the mind of an otherwise openminded tattooed person or artist. Use both syllables to be taken seriously. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:40:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21653 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:40:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 21639 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:40:30 -0000 Received: from falco.kuci.uci.edu (qmailr@128.195.131.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:40:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 26852 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:34:26 -0000 Received: from falco.kuci.uci.edu (cnoot@128.195.131.10) by falco.kuci.uci.edu with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:34:26 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:34:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Carrie Noot To: SF Raves Mailing List Subject: Re: My Gathering thoughts (and more) In-Reply-To: <19990405203010.10091.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > where EVERYONE else is at. Hmmm....So what is at most massive and not > in a conjested area??? THE GLOW STICK COWBOY!!! I forget his name, but hmm, i have a pretty damn good pic of the glowstick cow-boy, cool trails too! http://falco.kuci.uci.edu/~cnoot/raves/cowboy.jpg --carrie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:42:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22997 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:42:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 22891 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:42:06 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:42:06 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vLTMa13757; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:40:04 -0500 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <6b2b8a9e.243a87b4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:40:04 EDT Subject: Re: GO! (srr) To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dont support this movie!! and its commercialism!! jk. .. . however, i dunno bout this one yet. . .i am gonna go see Matrix w/ my $8, but hey who knows Go might actually be a comedy of some sorts.. . maybe? =P :*:*angel*:*: In a message dated 4/5/99 2:29:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: << Well... it's official.... the movie GO! is coming out on Friday and woohoo... I hope you're all as excited as me to see katie holmes playing a raver (grumble.. how do you go from dawson's creek to raving?) But anyways.. I think you should all dress up nice and cute and get together for a phat party at the movies and go see this one. I know I'll be there!!!! hugs n'stuff, trice the teknodiva >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:46:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24666 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:46:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 24658 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:46:03 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:46:03 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id iTZGa13757; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:16:57 -0500 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: <78c08d76.243a8249@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:16:57 EDT Subject: NRR:from candy To: gambit_92@hotmail.com, m1k3e2@pacbell.net, Deb1822@aol.com, MariGalvez@aol.com, mmlam@ucdavis.edu, donnamarie48@hotmail.com, Hcjschu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Candida29@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey everyone, sorry to bother you all, but i thought this was really neat!!! i'm trying to see if i can find anyone from my end but if you guys have friends, kid sibs or anything then maybe they could do this!!! if you find someone, then just contact the rep directly. but let me know too cause i would love to hear how it went and all!! love & lollipops, candy IMPORTANT CASTING NEWS! >> PLEASE READ AND FORWARD ON TO ANYONE ELSE WHOM YOU THINK MIGHT BE ABLE TO >> REFER ME TO SOMEONE. >> >> I'm looking for some teens for a Nautica Sport Tech print ad campaign >> with >> the theme, "Never Stop Trying". >> >> I'm interested in guys of any ethnicity, 15-17 years old, who are >> exceptional >> athletes in baseball, football OR basketball (one sport per kid--not >> necessarily all 3). THey must live in California, preferably the Bay >> area. >> >> In addition to the above, they need to be decent-looking (not model-esque, >> not >> unattractive) AND most important, they need to fit the Never Stop Trying >> angle >> by having overcome some obstacle(s) in their life. The obstacle can be >> economic, physical, etc. >> >> To quote the client, "these young athletes must have had the forces >> against >> them but have managed to presevere to become the talent athletes that they >> are >> today." Some examples of the kids they've already cast are one lacrosse >> player >> who suffered thru a series of injuries with major physical therapy during >> one >> season but still kept going out onto the field.. >> >> Another kid, before moving to the US, pursued his love of soccer while >> living >> in war torn Saravejo. >> >> If you know anyone like this, please contact me ASAP by email, phone or >> fax >> with any information on the teen so i can contact him (or his parents) >> directly. My deadline is coming up soon. >> >> If the Client approves him for the ad, he'll get to be in a national >> Nautica >> ad and make some very nice cash to boot. >> >> My numbers are: >> tel 415.546.6554 >> fax 415.546.0703 >> email suzstack@aol.com >> >> Thanks very much for your help. >> Suzanne From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:50:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26384 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:50:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 26375 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:50:09 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:50:09 -0000 From: "vipassana" Subject: Re: that sunset party To: mike bolger , sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:49:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:21:48 -0700 (PDT) mike bolger wrote: > it's like going to orgies 3 times a week, never taking > off your clothes or touching anyone, and making sarcastic comments > from the side lines about how funny people look when they're having > an orgasm. I will take my cloths off.... Just tell me where the orgies are.... Man do you remeber that one back 2 years ago, oh man the lighting... The naked people....Oh the sex, sex, sex!!! That one touched my life like no other!! Is there a an ug info line??? I am down to be naked!!! Just tell me where it's at! I will carepool.....We could drive naked!! Yeah man!! Lets do this! I have a mix tape(Video) of my last event, want one?....j/k OK....OK....I'll stop..... Matt aka vipassana PST>>> Anyone down for a get naked pre-party or after party? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:56:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29562 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:56:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 29409 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:56:22 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:56:22 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id gFELa25713; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:17:28 -0500 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:17:28 EDT Subject: Re: that sunset party To: vipassana@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Only if the women are 2 to 1 over the men. :) Peace M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 21:58:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1909 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 21:58:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 1899 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 21:58:12 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 21:58:12 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-153.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.153]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA15916; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990405203037.006a825c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:30:37 -0500 To: Jessica Webster From: Nuku Subject: Re: Re: NRR: Tattoo! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i use tat...and i have one also..i guess i don't want to get one in sf specialy if just a word would do something like that. Nuku At 02:29 PM 4/5/99 -0700, you wrote: >Almost forgot: tattooed people do not use the word tats. At least not in >San Francisco. > >That right there will take you down several notches in the mind of an >otherwise openminded tattooed person or artist. Use both syllables to be >taken seriously. > >Jessica > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:19:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12420 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:19:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 12406 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:19:08 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?pzdQ7kDsCDZlAPLmr9zAhxqJwzIW2xhS?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:19:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id PAA04551; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:17:08 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:17:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: mike bolger cc: MacBunny , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: gathering review In-Reply-To: <19990405212845.23806.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, mike bolger wrote: > > > --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > > not that people know this, but UFO used to be the lead singer of Faith > No More. think i lie ? go check out Mike Patton's picture in King For A > Day Fool For A Lifetime. THe cooles tthing I['ve ever seen at a concert was the first year they did New YEars Eve Freakout at the Bill Grahm Civic Center. Melvins, opened for Mr Bungle opened for Primus. During the Mr Bungle set, Mikey Patton took off his shoe, pissed into it, drank it, threw it into the crowd and people fought over it. that was wicked. I heard he used to do that a lot. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:20:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13624 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:20:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 13610 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:20:27 -0000 Received: from central.cnet.com (204.162.81.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:20:27 -0000 Received: from uyenppc.cnet.com (24.9.10.10.nat.cnet.com [10.10.9.24]) by central.cnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12452 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990406031939.00832b20@central.cnet.com> X-Sender: uyenp@central.cnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 03:19:39 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Uyen Phan Subject: Underworld Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone loving the new CD as much as I am? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:27:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18436 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:27:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18423 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:27:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:27:43 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id A96A7D40090; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:30:02 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "SFRaves" Subject: RE: Underworld Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:23:20 -0700 Message-ID: <001701be7fb2$e991b820$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990406031939.00832b20@central.cnet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It definately kicks ass. =) beaucoup fish kicks this fishboy's ass. i've never really disliked an underworld track, until i heard push downstairs though. everything else on the album is great though. especially cups, jumbo, shudder/king of snake, push upstairs, kittens, skym, something like a mama, winjer, and bruce lee. i already had moaner. i'm gonna see them with a bunch of friends and i'm setting up the SF dirty meet 1.0. http://dirty.org for more info. =) >Is anyone loving the new CD as much as I am? your jedi bitch, jedi666boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:28:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19022 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:28:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 18937 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:28:10 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:28:10 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id rYKMa18465; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:22:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:22:36 EDT Subject: Re: <> The Matrix To: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree with you one the movie!! A Must See!!!!! =) Did I say that? Or was I programmed to say it.... =) In a message dated 4/5/99 10:57:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << Alright.. until I saw this movie I really hated keanu... but this movie was so incredible I can actually forgive him for SPEED... need I say more. This movie is unbelievable... my boyfriend and I couldnt stop philosophising and talking about this for hours.... such a good movie. And the effects are amazing... even if you dont like the plot, etc.... its just neat to look at. Just my opinion :) -Carly >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:29:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20173 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:29:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 20163 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:29:24 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:29:24 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA16480; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA15428; Mon, 5 Apr 99 15:29:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:29:15 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: Uyen Phan Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Underworld In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990406031939.00832b20@central.cnet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk they are coming for a concert here! yeah! aminita On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Uyen Phan wrote: > Is anyone loving the new CD as much as I am? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:30:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21292 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:30:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 21272 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:30:16 -0000 Received: from galaxy.galstar.com (anarchy@204.251.80.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:30:16 -0000 Received: (from anarchy@localhost) by galaxy.galstar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14275 f0r sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:30:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "U.A.A." Posted-Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:30:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199904052230.RAA14275@galaxy.galstar.com> Subject: FG Spam To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:30:13 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So I got spammed a while back from Vlad, I replied with REMOVE and 6 months later I got 2 more emails from him. Again I replied with REMOVE in the subject. Guess I will have to wait and see if I get spammed again. Just a fair warning if I do get spammed again I will also report it to your ISP. But you know what?!, I do the same for every piece of spam I get. Am I supposed to make some exception for you Vlad? I won't. Law of the land (the internet) states that continued unsolicited emails risk loss of your account. I didn't make up the rules, but we all must obide by them. So if you want to spam the entire world, I don't care, just don't start whining and bitching when people start calling you on it. You try and point the finger at who started it, but the fact remains that none this would have ever come to be, if you or someone in your organization hadn't put together an email list and sent out a bunch of unsolicited emails. Thats the plain and simple truth. Ray Vonie wrote: -> The Truth Shall Set You Free... Vlad But I am reading the rest of your posts and can't believe some of the crap I am reading. Where is the PLUR in calling a collective a bunch of cock blocking player haters? Especially when you know little to nothing about it and the people who are apart of it. Respect goes both ways Vlad. And then to associate everyone in the collective (whom you don't even know) and group them together. Anyone else see the ingorance in his comments? He then goes so far to say imply that it could have been Ki that called the cops on his party?! Hold on a minute. Getting your email account closed and calling the cops on your party. Thats a big fucking stretch Vlad. I mean shit, so you get your account closed. You have to find another account with one of the hundreds of ISP's out there. So yeah its a big inconvience but no real harm done. Everyone. please see what really is going on here. Battle of ego's yes! A collective out to get a massive promoter? no. Aren't we a little old to resort to name calling? The worst part of the mess is the us vs. them There is no US vs. THEM. Hey Vlad the U in PLUR stands for Unity. Stop trying to divide us! --Herb ------------------------------------------------------------------- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:32:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22619 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:32:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22611 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:32:15 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:32:15 -0000 Received: from cruinc.com ([209.157.30.51]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id PAA21098 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37093947.1661F61F@cruinc.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:29:27 -0700 From: RobinT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: NRR: Cafe Babylon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know why Cafe' Babylon closed down? It was like, one day they were open then boom closed the next! I am soooo hurt! **snif** **snif** WHAAAAA!!! xoxox RobinT From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:32:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22854 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:32:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 22742 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:32:19 -0000 Received: from catbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:32:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with ESMTP id PAA26761; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:32:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@catbert.ucdavis.edu To: aminita cc: Uyen Phan , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Underworld In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk When and where??? How much are the tix and where can I get them??? PLEASE let me know!!! THANX, Silvia On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, aminita wrote: > they are coming for a concert here! > yeah! > aminita > > > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Uyen Phan wrote: > > > Is anyone loving the new CD as much as I am? > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:35:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25170 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:35:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 25153 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:35:28 -0000 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com (lime@192.100.81.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:35:28 -0000 Received: (from lime@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id PAA27101; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:35:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Simonich Message-Id: <199904052235.PAA27101@netcom19.netcom.com> Subject: Re: gathering review To: maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Max McCauley) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, akp2@duke.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: from "Max McCauley" at Apr 5, 99 03:17:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > > > > > not that people know this, but UFO used to be the lead singer of Faith > > No More. think i lie ? go check out Mike Patton's picture in King For A > > Day Fool For A Lifetime. > > THe cooles tthing I['ve ever seen at a concert was the first year they did > New YEars Eve Freakout at the Bill Grahm Civic Center. Melvins, opened > for Mr Bungle opened for Primus. During the Mr Bungle set, Mikey Patton > took off his shoe, pissed into it, drank it, threw it into the crowd and > people fought over it. that was wicked. > > I heard he used to do that a lot. > > 10-4, > duh, > max Yeah, I was at that show too. Good show that, probably the 2nd best of all of their new years shows. (The best was when they had Tool as one of the opening acts for them. Tool and Primus together on the same evening, who could ask for more?) I was pretty amazed by the shoe thing also, *chuckle* Definitely fell into the "Something you don't see every day" category... -Opus From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:35:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25910 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:35:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 25817 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:35:46 -0000 Received: from f218.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.109) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:35:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 88818 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 22:35:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405223515.88817.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.152.187.193 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:35:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.152.187.193] From: "Toshi Musha" To: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: --NRR-- The Matrix Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:35:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yup!! i saw the Matrix, too...well, i thought the movie is gonna be really confusing as all my friends told me so...but then the movie was not confusing enough for me to understand...:) ya know my poor english as you guys all said the effects are amazing... i love the scene when Keanu saw those 3 guys and the hall way in matrix... toshi p.s. i'm goin to see the matrix again tomorrow!! :) unclenoah wrote: > >okay, i saw The Matrix. Keanu was still best in Bill & Ted, but he's >tolerable in this one. > >the effects are amazing, i have to agree with everyone here. they really >flow well and you almost can't see where the CGI takes over the frames. > >i was expecting a really interesting, possibly confusing plot out of this >one and i was a little disappointed on that end. the movie reminded me >very much of 'Tron' a movie Disney made in the early 80's about Jeff >Bridges getting sucked into a computer... i kept expecting Keanu to say, >"Let's see some User power!" and then toss his disc at the evil MCP! :D > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:36:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26614 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:36:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 26593 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:36:08 -0000 Received: from web222.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:36:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405223528.19454.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.217.238.143] by web222.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:35:28 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:35:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Re: NRR: Cafe Babylon To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: RobinT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That space just has a hard time staying open. Kismet, the coffee shop that was there before, was just as cool and it was open one day and then ,poof, closed the next. The management didnt even tell the employees that it was shut down until the were done closing for the night. Oh well, the downtown scene just doesnt support anything that is not upperclass or homey. Steve =) --- RobinT wrote: > Does anyone know why Cafe' Babylon closed down? It > was like, one day > they were open then boom closed the next! I am > soooo hurt! **snif** > **snif** WHAAAAA!!! > xoxox > RobinT > > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:41:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 305 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:41:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 285 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:41:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:41:25 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id ACA165D010A; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:43:45 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "SFRaves" Subject: RE: Underworld Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:37:01 -0700 Message-ID: <001801be7fb4$d23852e0$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thursday, April 29th at the Warfield in San Francisco. Tickets are on sale NOW, 20.00 plus bass charge. Don't know supporting acts though, they usually tour with Darren Price, and i've heard rumors of the Jedi Knights opening up for them. sweetness. need more info? icq #4221426 or email me. =) your jedi bitch, jedi666boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:42:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2072 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:42:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 2050 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:42:24 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:42:24 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id 5BATa18465; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:41:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: <3e3ccbc2.243a961f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:41:35 EDT Subject: Re: How to get to spin at parties? To: p_king@mailcity.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: Oct1faith@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what is a "reKKids" blackstone From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:45:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4276 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:45:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 4125 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:45:22 -0000 Received: from ratty.wolfe.net (HELO wolfenet.com) (204.157.98.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:45:22 -0000 Received: from agony.wolfenet.com (tac-p1-8.wolfenet.com [206.159.18.55]) by wolfenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA12656 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990405154308.006efaf0@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: syoung@popserv.wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:43:08 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Stephen Young Subject: JOURNEES SUMMER TOUR (oh ya!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello- We are looking for promoters who want to get in on bringing this amazing group of artists to their area. The Journees Music roster has been handpicked to represent some of the absolute finest artists covering nearly every area of the electronic music spectrum. Booking Journees DJs/PA's guarantees a well-rounded roster for your event. JOURNEES SUMMER TOUR --------------------------- With the DJ's: DJ LIQUID/Eric Lee (Silicon Valley) nu-school breaks, funky techno, progressive VICIOUS VIC (New York) progressive DJ VOODOO (Miami) funky techno SHILO MAGGI (Los Angeles, Silicon Valley) house, acid The live performers: ASTRAL MATRIX (San Francisco) Progressive Trance, Techno BEATSEED (Seattle) Techno/Breaks/Trance/Hip-Hop --------------------- Other Journees artists also available at your request: **DJ** DefCon6/ Dj Hip-E and Red Void (Tampa), Dj Rob-E (Orlando), Chris Rayce/ Bahamut (Denver), Teknostep* (Toronto), Jim Hopkins (San Francisco), Dj 3D (Chicago), Will Web (Detroit/ Miami), Dean Coleman (Atlanta, Los Angeles), Hak (Silicon Valley), DNA (New York), RkTech (Silicon Valley), Colin O’Brien/ Dj Liquid-X* (Brussels, Belgium), Martin Kay* (Zazoo Recordings - Edinburgh, Scotland), **Live PA** Aaron Peacock (San Francisco), DefCon6/ Dj Hip-E and Red Void (Tampa), Dpro (Los Angeles/ San Francisco), Echosphere (Greenville), LSP (Silicon Valley), Mike Dred aka Kozmik Kommando* (London), NRSHA (San Francisco), Terra 9* (Sydney) Please feel free to inquire about available dates, etc. We look forward to bringing the special magic we are spreading upon the world. We have worked over the past 9 years to bring that extra special touch to make that difference. This tour is directed by Dj Liquid and The Journees Remix Projekt staff. The tour is going to be handled by Hands on Deck (NY - 718 349 9525), All Terrain Minds (NV - 702 663 6582), Encore Entertainment (GA - 404 303 0839), and Fuzed Music (WA - 206 285 7673). Please contact our special event marketing team, iCon Promotions (SF - 415 957 5866) for promotional opportunities, tour sponsorship, etc. All other inquiries please contact us at 408 725 1291. Thank you. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:48:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7121 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:48:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 7112 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:48:30 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:48:30 -0000 From: "vipassana" Subject: NRR.... Boy needs job!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: talk@warmth.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:48:18 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know how we all hate these kind of posts, but I need to find work. I am a Senior Level Systems Admin (NT, Novell, Mac) I also can do desktop support. Any one know who is hiring? Know of a job opening at your place of employment? If soo or you have a place/friend you could throw my resume off too.... Please e-mail me. Thanks in advance, Matt Downer Sorry for the post! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:51:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8807 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:51:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8770 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:51:00 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:51:00 -0000 Received: from NEXXUS19@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id hXLEa22362; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:47:15 -0400 (EDT) From: NEXXUS19@aol.com Message-ID: <95ba6ab7.243a9773@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:47:15 EDT Subject: Re: Underworld To: sschumacher@ucdavis.edu, aminita@linex.com CC: uyenp@cnet.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 216 Reply-To: NEXXUS19@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk april 30th..the warfield, 21 bucks See you there -Lauren From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 22:56:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10849 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 22:56:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 10840 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 22:56:47 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 22:56:47 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02961 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA16656 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:55:08 GMT Message-ID: <00f501be7fb8$269ac5e0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> From: "Mook" To: "SFRaves" Subject: FG spam & CF complaints Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:00:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1. Reporting spam to the ISP of the Spammer is a common practice. 2. If you are subscribed to SFR you will get Vlad's BSP once as he BCC's the list, if you get it twice then you are also on his list. (note: check the "sender" field to see how it was delivered) If you do get it through SFR then you have no grounds to complain as almost every promoter out their is guilty of posting BSP's with out putting "BSP" in the subject. 3. You cannot say that everyone in a group are bad just because of the actions of one of their members, that kind of thinking is the root of many prejudices (ie- racism, sexism, religious wars, etc.) 4. This fight is stupid and childish. 5. Please take this private. Thanx =) MooK<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:17:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19452 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:17:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 19441 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:17:02 -0000 Received: from thyme.cisco.com (171.69.43.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:17:02 -0000 Received: from slave2 (dhcp-sjc5-107-200.cisco.com [171.71.107.200]) by thyme.cisco.com (8.8.8/2.5.1/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA20815; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990405155013.00a01320@elephant.zo.com> X-Sender: spacekid@elephant.zo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:12:28 -0700 To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Space Kid Subject: Re: T H E G A T H E R I N G In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I remember that party on Halloween 97 at 85th n Baldwin - now *that* was a party.. this was my first Gathering, too - and I really really liked it. It made me think of the raves from back in '92-'94... thing is, the location will still getchu the vibe we experienced: weird looks from scary lookin peeps not interested in music, socializing, or *anything* except selling drugs and groping women. I had a weird experience when I really started feeling high - I actually started looking at people a *lot* more closely as I walked by them, and all the homie g'sters hanging out at the entrance to the main room were quite loudly and blatantly offering drugs. The weird thing is, I passed in between two rows of people so that I had people standing on either side of me shouting at me "hey! you want some drugs!?" (not even like pretending to be cool by saying what *kind* of drugs they were offering... if yer gunna stand around in public acting like a total dork by shouting to everyone around you that yer selling drugs - then, jeez, at least make it useful by stating what drugs yer selling. well, okay - that's just my pet-peeve - selling drugs is your own thing, just don't try and bring the party down by standing around shouting that you're ready to sell it to anyone. I loved this party - the main room was kickin' right when I got there. Jeno just lifted me off my feet with his hard house. That kicked my ass all over the place.. I mostly remember Huggy's set coz the visuals were beautiful at that point. Major props to the visuals - you have no idea what those banners hanging from the ceiling were doing to our group. Oh, and the tops of the tents was really awesome - my friend Josh and I stood in the in-betweeen area over near the jungle room (near the entrance) and we stared at the tents for about a half-hour. People passed by giggling and some talked to us - but only the people who were also on liquid could really see what we were seeing. It was cool to meet Peron - in fact, it was great having him there.. there were so many pot brownies and pot rice krispy bars!! yippie! I think the grime and dirt that make up 85th n baldwin are just part of what happens at this place.. I hate it, but there's nothing they can do to clean that place up. Oh well, you know. My furry yellow pants have crappy nasty brown rave funk from the bottom of the pants to like just past my ankles... it's nasty. ...so, I had a great time - got to hang out with a lot my friends/familE - got to dance a bunch - got to see every bit of the rave.. I can't wait till the next gathering!! :) Much thanks to the gathering crew! .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOo o`. `. \ ~-. oOOo. Luv, `.; / ~. OO: -Ben .' ;-- `.o.' ,' ; ~~--'~ ; ; _\\;_\\//_ At 12:18 AM 4/5/99 -0400, BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com wrote: >Haven't been to 85th and Baldwin in FOREVER! (FTT Halloween Tribal Massive >'97 who remembers that FANTASTIC PARTY!!! ahh memories...) I've always liked >that warehouse because it never got hot and crowded...(ahem...2nd and >Crackson) So this was my first Gathering party ever. It was alrite. I believe >that our scene is kinda weak right now so the crowd was not that great. But >that is another subject. > >I liked the main room music, some good house and techno going on. Ok UFO >killed me I haven't seen him spin in damn I don't know how long. Dammit, why >can't Phunckateck spin together anymore...who remembers!!! Props to Noel, >dope set as usual. I also caught Mes in the little room in the back...he spun >some SICK ass steady beat thumping house!!! > >I danced my ass off to make up for the nite before (bust of FGF)...too bad >there weren't any good circles =] > >Hope you all had a good weekend. See you all at Harmony....I'm off to Hawaii >TUESDAY! Just thought I'd rub it in hehe. =*)~ > >-=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:17:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19911 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:17:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 19828 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:17:12 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:17:12 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id dDIRa11895; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:15:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:15:27 EDT Subject: Re: gathering review To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, akp2@duke.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/5/99 5:24:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: << Which reminds me: did you see the Tom Green show from the Ukranian cruiseship with all the college kids on it? When he is trying to get the radio officer to help him call his parents? "Are you using the spoon as a lever? Ostrich starm?? hahahahahahah >> yo wouldnt that be so dope to have this guy pop up out of knowwhere at a rave and do his little duties?? some megaphone comments he might make would be: "he has some E. he has some E and he is putting it in his mouth. he's" "im circling some candy ravers, some candy ravers in big pants" "she is dancing fast, she is dancing with glowsticks fast to jungle" "he puts on a record. he is playing the record. he plays the records and music is comming from the record." -----hey...it could happen...... DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:18:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22479 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:18:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 22420 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:18:50 -0000 Received: from law-f131.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.194) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:18:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9706 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 23:18:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405231823.9705.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.38 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:18:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.38] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: Ravergrl27@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com Subject: Hooray for Ray Vonie, some thoughts Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:18:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I would like to personally thank Vlad for existing on this list.... I mean if it wasn't for him who would be able to blame all of our Rave-related troubles on??? Ourselves. . . hhhmmmmm .. . .Well, I think this whole Spam thread is too much. . .Do you really care that much about getting spam from a promoter??? I'd better make sure that I don't BSP to this list or I might just get myself flammed to pieces. . . Again. I would like to add that I am personally guilty of firing off at Vlad on this list with regards to his existence in the scene, but after putting up a small firefight I decided to wave the white PLUR flag. Instead of putting up my name as captain of stupid unrelenting brigrade, I saved a little face on the list and went for the more positive aspects of what was around us. So, once again I would like to thank Mr. Ray Vonie - - Vlad(FGE) For being on this list, you make it easier for everyone else to vent their stupid little problems on. You know how when you take target practice and they give you that nice BIG 4 ft. dia. target?? Well there you are, pretty hard to miss. . . I don't know what the venting types would do without you.. . . Kick themselves???? That might be good, they might even knock all the bad stuff out of themselves and think about all the better things in this scene, besides something as silly as SPAM. . . . So, to the gut from Cloud Factory. . .Please, hurry up and save some face on this list, . . . It's good for your conscience,. . . and from now on use the Delete button. It serves a purpose you know???? Peace and Love :) ;p Trancebaby :) ;p Raoul-- NBC we are the future. . . . Discovery thurs. April 8th, 9pm-4am see the calendar for more info . .. . From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:19:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23173 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:19:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 23094 invoked by uid 233); 5 Apr 1999 23:19:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 6357 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 17:34:06 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 17:34:06 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Mon Apr 5 10:33:17 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:33:17 -0800 From: "Joaqman" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: o.k. where do i start?? X-Sender-Ip: 206.170.33.16 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk after spending a relaxing evening at home on friday, i woke up just in time to catch the beginnings of the bilogical picnic. a great group of friends, and i met some more dj's and sfravers. todd, dj prophet was a great host and i also liked the mixtape that he gave me. thanks michael for putting it together. deepbeep, megatron, arial cybana, emi, joe lanzon and friends you all made my workshift much more bearable. later that nite.... we ventured to the gathering. the same spot as last time, but one more music area. the juice bar was Reeelly good!!!! i don't know if i saw noel or ufo , but that d n b was kikin' my butt. great fun and before that i saw joe rice and he was rockin' it!!!! i missed eric spire cuz i was still in line, but i got to see tony which was really great. i also caught a tekno dj in Life who i did not recognize. altogether a quality job once again, but by 3 am i had had enuff massv for one nite. sunday chemistry... have you guys been to ecco in san jose? it is one of the best spots the bay has to offer. i still haven't been to jelly's yet though. anyways, chemistry was going off. i watched my buddies keith e. & skyscraper give lessons in trance & then dr. bubble followed strongly. this was the first time that i got to see girl friday and she is dope!!! agnes b. was rockin' it for a bit. and then later mikey the riddler showed and proved. i got to see all ov these dj's for FREEE!!!! chemistry has no addmission during the first hour. later, dj Sara was phenomenal!!!! what an incredible display of live kickn' flavor!!! know wonder ibizia is so hot!!! do not miss her!!!! and then i got to see one of my tru favorites, Iz. this kid does exactly what i cRave when i go dancing, he moves the crowd. this is serious business and Iz is it. y'all should chek him out when you have the chance. i need more sleep, but my soul is content and feet sore, c you on the floor.... joaqman --- page me @ 510-330-1101 asteroids, tetris, moon patrol, ms. pac man, dig dug, yie ar kung fu HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:21:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24555 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:21:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24544 invoked by uid 233); 5 Apr 1999 23:21:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 6666 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 20:26:27 -0000 Received: from shell4.ba.best.com (giles@206.184.139.135) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:26:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (giles@localhost) by shell4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id NAA10225 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:26:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell4.ba.best.com: giles owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:26:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Bowkett X-Sender: giles@shell4.ba.best.com To: SF Raves Subject: paging blu room folx Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey -- anybody associated with Blue Room Americas on the list? if you guys need help at the door, set up, etc. (even flyers -- did my first flyer this weekend), let me know. I'd be glad to help. e-mail me at giles@bowkett.com since I'm not on sfr any more. thanks. :-) :: :: www.bowkett.com :: :: From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:40:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2841 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:40:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 2833 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:40:55 -0000 Received: from f14.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:40:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 65107 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 23:40:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405234044.65106.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:40:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: SpinDazE@aol.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: GO! (srr) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:40:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The go Commercial kind of looks like the netscape commercial. Where they show a scene from wall street then show a rave,then wall street,then the rave going off hardcore.. Go looks kewl though.. The Matrix kicks ass!!!! see ya, Macadio >From: SpinDazE@aol.com >Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com >To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: GO! (srr) >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:40:04 EDT > >dont support this movie!! and its commercialism!! jk. .. . however, i dunno >bout this one yet. . .i am gonna go see Matrix w/ my $8, but hey who knows Go >might actually be a comedy of some sorts.. . maybe? =P >:*:*angel*:*: > >In a message dated 4/5/99 2:29:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TeKnODiVa@aol.com >writes: > ><< Well... it's official.... > the movie GO! is coming out on Friday and woohoo... I hope you're all as > excited as me to see katie holmes playing a raver (grumble.. how > do you go from dawson's creek to raving?) > But anyways.. I think you should all dress up nice and cute and get > together for a phat party at the movies and go see this one. I know I'll be > there!!!! > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the teknodiva >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:48:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5761 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:48:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 5745 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:48:02 -0000 Received: from web207.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:48:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405234801.21891.rocketmail@web207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.118.43] by web207.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:48:01 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:48:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: nrr: easter candy hangover cure To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Purchase one large pineapple and a box of strawberries. Allow to refrigerate until very cold. I do not know how long it will take for the fruit to get cold. If you are feeling impatient, put it in the freezer. Slice pineapple into small wedges. Clean and slice strawberries. Eat fruit. love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:55:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10732 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:55:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 10485 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:55:08 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:55:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405234849.18172.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [209.209.8.108] by attach1; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:48:49 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: children of the sun...another review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the street outside of the space was so quiet when i arrived, that i thought i'd gone to the wrong place. boy was i WRONG. this was a nice little party with good music and friendly people. greg, andy and logik all played great. the set up was tight and professional. good job on the party guys. i really liked how smoothly everything went and how professional (in a good way) everyone was. this group has got their hearts in the right place, know how to throw a good party and are worth supporting. see u at the next one. :) micron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:56:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11811 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:56:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 11801 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:56:38 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:56:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA20098 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:56:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: My Gathering thoughts (and more) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >So what is at most massive and not >in a conjested area??? THE GLOW STICK COWBOY!!! I forget his name, but >I've seen him at just about every party I've went to in Oakland since >Megga Buzz Works, which was my first and he always has his hat and glow >sticks. I hate to single out a person like this, but as I was watching >him do his magic at the Gathering the idea came to me. If he's on the >list and reads this I hope this wont be embrassing for you. ________________________ Yeah!! This guy rocks... I was lucky enough to have him dance by me for like 1/2 hour at love affair.. This guy has the glowstick skills!! Gregery From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 05 23:59:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13547 invoked by uid 6000); 5 Apr 1999 23:59:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 13539 invoked from network); 5 Apr 1999 23:59:33 -0000 Received: from f51.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 23:59:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 36885 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 23:59:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990405235923.36884.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:59:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (Computer related) How to do you add wordwrap to outlook? Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 16:59:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Gang, I have a question how do you or can you add word wrap to outlook calendar? Please Email me personally for more specifics on my problem. Thanks, Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 00:15:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22559 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 00:15:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 22548 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 00:15:09 -0000 Received: from mailhost.ap.net (205.134.237.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 00:15:09 -0000 Received: from ap.net (D-16.Arch-03.ap.net [207.44.219.209]) by mailhost.ap.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA19260; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37094FED.955A92E0@ap.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 17:06:05 -0700 From: URN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gammbino@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: QuEstion§ 0n Harmony Springtime FLower Fest References: <5a823c39.24394721@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In response to your query let me say Harmony = Good Vibes. I have been going to parties for about 4 or 5 years now and I haven't encountered any party as wonderfully amazing as a Harmony party. Harmony is raving in it's purest form, free flowing pure positive energy and vibes. The driving force at the heart of our scene. The Springtime Flower Festival is offering one of the most impressive and diverse lineups, techno, tech-house, trance, drum-n-bass, downtempo...you name it, it'll be there. If I haven't made it clear at this point you will have the time of your life!!!!See you there. love to all, URN Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Hey Everyone!!! =) I heard that "The Gathering" was hella phat ass! > IAll though I couldn't go I had a sorta good time at home with my black light > and music...how lame huh Anyways I wanted to know if any of you out there are > going to Harmony's "The Sprintime Flower FEstival" ?¿ because before I get > my ticket I wanted to know if you all think this will be phat enough to feel > the good vibes. > > Well let me know thanks. Oh ya and if you have more info on it like where > its gonna be that'd be great too!! > > Bye > PLUR > KêñT From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 00:18:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24101 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 00:18:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 24084 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 00:18:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 00:18:09 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id A34CE29900B2; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 17:20:28 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "SFRaves" , "Dirty" , "Jungle List" Subject: The Jedi Bitch's Pick - DJdb: shades of technology Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:13:12 -0700 Message-ID: <001e01be7fc2$429b2780$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I picked up a couple of cd's after i sold some laserdiscs this weekend. It's taken me a while to listen to the disks extensively, but here are my opinions on a few cd's... =) djdb presents shades of technology - f-111 ok, this stuff starts out slow, moody, catchy. very clubby, very somber in tones. love it so far, the drums aren't spectacular, but the chords kick in, deep, bass kicking. Exocet - Demon Seed, if this is any indication of what he has to offer, I can't wait for a CD... =) when jonny l's - wish u had something kicks in, i thought it gave the Exocet groove something to dance about, good shit. The bassline of wuhs is similar to the hoover vacuum sound in today's recent rough jungle track's, though a bit more refined. good track, just about any of jonny l's tracks are killer jungle. Then comes Cyba Space - You're Gonna Miss My Face. Slamming track, beats fast, the bass is interesting and her voice is great. not too intrusive and distracting, goes along well with the cut. Decoder - Stash, is the nex track. starts off a bit slower than the others, then the bassline and beat pick up quickly, catchy, and very clubby. a little noisier than the previous tracks. a harder, rougher edge to the more polished beats on the cd. even sounds like the bass could be sampled from a live instrument. Furry Phreaks - Soothe track kicks in with some beautiful vocals from Terra Deva. great production, but a simple droning bassline. great tune though. really poppy. sat around the office droning away the bassline. Optical - Data Life, typical optical, though not as good as some of his other stuff. still a good track, though a little boring for my tastes. it needs a catch of some sort. something special, oh well. Then comes one of my favorite tracks, John B's (UK)- Starburst. Phenomenal track, starts off all pretty with these etheral sounds, slows and then kicks the evil in with a slamming bassline, then starts to melt them together into one killer jungle track. fucking great shit. really clubby, but really good. a little faster than i'm used to, i have his album on double cd. Wax Doctor - Magnum Fusion, has a jazzy drum beat, with a waxing waning buzz, with some flute. interesting, definately something different than most i've heard. nice track, flows nicely, some really cool keys and a nice sampled voice. The Advocate - Defining Moments is a very adam f sounding track. quick paced, some layered chords, some keys, some nature sounds, some really cool tweaks. inobtrusive bassline, the track is nice. subtle. i like it. =) very ethereal, takes you on a trip. recommend this stuff too. this track jsut keeps getting better, love that kicking bass later. another jonny l track - I let U, blends perfectly into that past song. god damn, this is a good cd. it is labeled with a sticker that reads, THE BEST FUCKING JUNGLE MIX. PERIOD!, so I figured it had to be good. EZ-Rollers - Subtropic, also blends well into the mix, more upbeat, faster drumming, quicker bassline. more atmospheric sounds though. birds and the like. lisahall - connection 17 is decent. great bass, good rolling line, but i'm not digging it. until the vocals kick in. she has an alluring voice, very throaty, sultry even. just got better. =) orgy - blue monday optical mix, this is a great track, i don't have to hear the subpar vocals, and cheesy metal rip-off of a truly pioneering electronic track from New Order. i couldn't even tell it was that song. ed rush & optical - funktion, every jungle dj i've heard play has this track in his/her collection, i hear it everywhere and it kicks ass.... =) haunting keys, a little itchy, then the bass rolls over you. great fucking track. DJ Krust - Warhead - stepper mix, good catchy clubby track with some great overlay and drum tracks. fairly rolling, good dance track. nice and itchy. L Double - Saturday Flex, starts off on a good foot, interesting drums, kind of a throw back to older jungle, littered with vocal divas, moaning various phrases or sounds. good track, even if a little retro styling. then we come to my favorite track on the comp. Rob & Goldie's The Shadow (process remix). this track i play first AND last, smooth chords start it out, very melodic, then a female narrator chimes in about something, setting up the track, not sure what the sample is from. but it sets up the track excellently. slowly builds, holding the chords, drums are brought up, laying down the lines throwing out one killer beat. the chords are going, the drums sounding, the shadow echoes through your speakers, then it gets broken down piece by piece, subtle changes, then mellows out, with tonal notes sounding, then the bass, with some drums kick you in the face, this track is dark. slamming. rolling. the stuff dreams are made of. your jedi bitch, jedi666boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 00:41:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6673 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 00:41:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6661 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 00:41:54 -0000 Received: from ultimanet.com (HELO sugarbeet.salinas.net) (root@205.179.129.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 00:41:54 -0000 Received: from laptop (07-134.006.popsite.net [209.209.8.134]) by sugarbeet.salinas.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA29635; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:45:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199904060045.RAA29635@sugarbeet.salinas.net> X-Sender: ki@mail.cloudfactory.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 17:25:57 -0700 To: Ray Vonie From: Ki Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3709CDA5.E3BAA2C6@ix.netcom.com> References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi everyon, This is my last post regarding this issue. Vlad if you want to take this off the list then let's do that cause this is getting out of hand. >In the first place, nice people don't hold grudges over bullshit... and >secondly... you're the one who brought this to the list. You could have just >e-mailed me privately, but that would have been to nice of a thing to do. While i did take it to the list i did not resort to flaming, name calling, physical threats nor did i even bring the reason for my request to the list. i corresponded with everyone who wrote me privately. i also responded the way i did cause i do not take phycical threats very lightly. grow up Vlad. I did email you privately the first time. i told you get " take me off the fucking list". you straigt up lied to me and said you never sent it. YOU ARE A LIAR. The headers don't lie. This would have ended long ago if you only had complied to my request. You refused to take me off the list. I reported you. i tried it the nice way it didn't work. my friends have tried it the nice way it didn't work. you are either stubborn or you actually have know idea what your doing. if that is the case i have no respect for that. this is what you do for a living. learn the rules. >No it's how a I respond when I'm being attacked. I doubt that this is how you >treat all your spam, going after peoples providers.. It's obviously a personal >issue being played out here. No i do this with all spammers i don't support or agree with. Why do you think it is personal Vlad? I've been on this list for two years and not once have i EVER wrote in flaming you, dissing you, Threatening you. Why would i after two years of not saying anything all of a sudden start a campaign to take you down. Paranoia will destroya!!!! do you have a reason to be paranoid in thinking all this? why are you acting like you've been backed into a corner? It's people who usually know they are wrong who react violently trying to save face. this could all have been avoided simply by taking me off the list. >Anyone that read this can obviously tell that this is more than just about >stopping any additional receipt of spam e-mail from me. You're starting shit >with me using this e-mail spam as an excuse... it's so obvious to everyone who >reads this last thing you wrote about what you think about me and my parties. yes, i don't agree with the way you do things but i don't agree with a lot of big promoters. have i ever tried starting anything with them or you? >Look, you represent them by being one of their members... so don't try to >bullshit anyone, Including yourself. A persons actions reflect all those they >are associated with... And as far as I'm concerned, you're not in this alone, and >others in your group are very aware of what you are doing, and either support >you, or are doing nothing to encourage you to back down.,.. In either case... >that means They accept your actions, and have let you step forth as their >representative. By them doing nothing, means they agree with you... so YOU ARE >representing them. Sorry if I had to school you on that... but That's >reality. AND if it is all your doing, and you just want to start shit with me, >then maybe you shouldn't be so selfish, and have considered others you work with >and how it will effect them to be on my bad side... But I guess that would have >been way to mature. What Herb said. >As I said then, and will AGAIN repeat now... Ki@cloudfactory, is not in my list, >and you received it another way, I have checked then and I have checked now, and >when I asked you for other e-mail addresses you had that it could be under you >never replied and called me a liar. You're the unintelligent one, because I'm >not denying that I sent the e-mail, so of course the header will reflect the >origin.... But it went BCC... so how do YOU know what address it was sent to, or >how it got to you? why do you insist on lying to me. I've received two posts from you. one to sfraves the other directly to me. You are a LIAR. Intelligence? let me give you a little lesson in email. there are these things called headers that tell you how the message and what servers the message was delivered to. I have one in my possession that you wrote straight to my cloudfactory account and one that came from hyperreal.org. educate yourself before you start SPAMMING people cause it RUDE especially if it is to people in your community. that is disprespectful Vlad. trying to be sneakky with the BCC huh? it's not that simple >Thanks... I really appreciated that vindictive move. I didn't say anything to >you at the time, and let it blow over... but if you think you can Screw me over >twice, and laugh about it... man are you ever ignorant. More threats Vlad? hehehehehehehehe. you amuse me. i'm pushing all the right buttons. You're too predictable. And Now I'm starting to >wonder if it was YOU that was the one that tipped of the Fremont PD about friday, >and got our party busted... I wouldn't pass that by you seeing how vindictive and >out of line you are. Please don't. you're making assumptions again. Why do you think i am vindictive. cause i asked you take me off the list and you refused forcing me to file a complaint? that's hardly vindictive. >> The whole issue would >> have been dropped at this point if you would have simply taken me off the >> list. > >The whole issue would have been dropped if you didn't bring it back up. as far >as I'm concerned... you're not on my e-mail list, at least not under this e-mail; >address. But maybe you subscribe to other list groups that are on my e-mail >list, and that's how you received it... but maybe that's too abstract a concept >for your narrow mind to grasp. you can lie all you want but i've got the headers to prove it. >It's very obvious what you think of me... and more clear now why you want to fuck >with me... and how little it really is about this e-mail spam... and how much >this is about your personal attack on me. do you actually think that b/c i disagree with your multipage glossy flyers and the way you operate that i would go to such lengths to take you down like that. you're a paranoid FOOL. You've never done anything to me except spam me. all i'm doing is filing a complaint asking other people to do so llike your isp has asked me todo. >Like I said... you had your fun... now you are attacking me personally... and you >are biting off so much more than you could ever swallow. It's still not to late >to back down. You've already lost, why make it any worse. No i'm filing a formal complaint on YOU A SPAMMER. >LOL:) You just admitted that YOU wrote the list, a list that YOU know Im on, >and I READ. How did YOU want to keep this private? Did you think I would >just sit by and not say anything? Did YOU ever underestimate me... boy oh boy >are you going to learn a valuable lesson over this. Vlad i don't care what you think. i stopped caring when you lied to me about sending the spam. i stopped caring when you refused to take me off the list. Everytime someone disagrees with you on this list you strike out violently. what's up with that? >Everyone sees that this isn't about spam.. it's about your ego. You care >nothing about spam... you have made that obvious. What you do care about is >being a Player Hater... and all because you can't play, you don't want other's to >play either... Im used to it, I see it with parents, cops, and your category... >cock blockers. People who screw with others for fun because they think they can >get away with it. your grasping at air, depserately. i'm watching reading and LOL! YOU Fucked up VLAD not me. but i guess you will never know that since you wouldn't take me off the list even after i complained to you tye first time. It would have never come to this if you would have simply respected me enought to comply to my request. this is about your ego Vad and how you could give a fuck about anyone else. anything to make a buck right? >Ki... Im giving you one last opportunity do get of my back and figure out which >of your e-mail addresses is in my address book so i can remove it. Don't be a >schmuck. You can still save yourself and your friends some face... think it >through. Im not going to be this generous again with you. Don't make empty threats you can't follow through on cause i'm starting to get impatient with you. You're starting to bore me you're so predictable. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 00:44:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8226 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 00:44:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 7930 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 00:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO next-mail.hightrend.com) (209.31.33.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 00:44:02 -0000 Received: from alldigitalclub.com (10.1.1.69 [10.1.1.69]) by next-mail.hightrend.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id GGJAQ2SW; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:50:54 -0700 Message-ID: <36E00926.9A9E3EA7@alldigitalclub.com> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:41:12 +0000 From: Vitaly Golomb Reply-To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Vonie , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: nrr...if you've received spam from... References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <3709CDA5.E3BAA2C6@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Ki, I don't know you, but I do know Vlad. Don't you think there is something else much much much more productive you could do with your time? Instead you do something so stupid that it just blew me away. You publically slander a very respectable and respected household name (at the very least in this scene), over a matter of a couple of e-mails you got??? What the hell is wrong with you, bro. Being anything more then an attendee in this scene, you should watch your mouth and your actions. I agree with Vlad, this is more than obviously about something else. You could of at least been more respectable to your organization (cloud factory) and not use an e-mail address with their domain, you could of at least made a Yahoo or Hot mail accout. I mean you've gone so much out of your way to call Vlad's provider. Might as well come clean and say what's really on your mind. No negativity, stupid people just puzzle me. Vitaly, VORG P. S. By the way, law states that if you communicate bullshit about somebody or an organization to a third party, it is called SLANDER which is a type of crime called tort. At this point Vlad and FGE have all the right to collect damages. Yep... you fucked up big time! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 00:47:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10943 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 00:47:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 10933 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 00:47:23 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 00:47:23 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vODTa15163 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:06:37 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: <296e76ae.243ab81d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:06:37 EDT Subject: That's what weekends are made for, right? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey every body!! How y'all doing? Good I hope! Have you guys ever made a PLAN and then at the end you said=20 "What the F*** happened? My plan was to go to Feel Good Friday dance my butt off, then go to SF in th= e=20 morning get a hotel for Saturday night in SF, wake up cruise SF then be home=20 in the evening. BUT, that changed... Me and my friends were pumped to go to Feel Good Frida= y=20 (Dam it sounded like a cool party :( and as some of you may know that party=20 was busted! So there we were wondering what to do? We heard something was=20 going on in Modesto downtown so we went. Me and my friends were all candied=20 out! and every one else was dressed as if the just came from Easter dinner,=20 except for 10 other candy people. =09At first my friends did not want got near the party, but I talked=20 them into it and it turned out to be somewhat of a good party. This was the=20 first party I ever been to, that I actually saw 14 year olds and I think=20 younger ravers. I was trippin!! Especially at this one kid who told us he=20 was 14 and was dressed as if he was a Raver his hole life, it made me think=20 about where was I when I was 14?? lol =09We went back to my friends house when the party was over (2:00am) and=20 decided to wake up early in the morning and head to SF. We first went to=20 Market Street Virgin Records, then went to Haight Street, finally got to the=20 F-8 store and took hella flyers then went to Housewares (took more flyers). =09Here comes the rain, what to do now? We couldn't think of any where=20 else to go so my friend decided it for us to head to Santa Cruz to see her=20 aunt. What do SCruz kids do on the weekends?? Besides go to the beach? I=20 finally made a deal with my friend, if I shut up about going to rave then sh= e=20 would take us some other time, sounds like a deal to me!! All in all I had a fun time!! And like the guy said on the FGF info line "maybe it wasn't meant to be" Adios! ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 PS> sorry this was sooo long :) =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 *P*L*U*R*=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 01:09:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23783 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 01:09:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 23715 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:09:02 -0000 Received: from web206.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:09:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406011158.5960.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.220.42.72] by web206.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:11:58 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:11:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow, its been a while since someone made me angry. Lets stop this stupid bullshit right now, cause its dumb posts like this and the more dumb posts to come that are going to waste mine and everybody elses time. Thank god for delete. Vitaly, why dont you keep your two cents to yourself, as well as anybody else who has any input on this, its stupid and immature, and its between Vlad and Ki. So shut up. Steve >:( "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb --- Vitaly Golomb wrote: > Hey Ki, > > I don't know you, but I do know Vlad. Don't you > think there is something else much > much much more productive you could do with your > time? Instead you do something so > stupid that it just blew me away. You publically > slander a very respectable and > respected household name (at the very least in this > scene), over a matter of a > couple of e-mails you got??? What the hell is wrong > with you, bro. Being anything > more then an attendee in this scene, you should > watch your mouth and your actions. > I agree with Vlad, this is more than obviously about > something else. You could of > at least been more respectable to your organization > (cloud factory) and not use an > e-mail address with their domain, you could of at > least made a Yahoo or Hot mail > accout. I mean you've gone so much out of your way > to call Vlad's provider. Might > as well come clean and say what's really on your > mind. > > No negativity, stupid people just puzzle me. > > Vitaly, > VORG > > P. S. By the way, law states that if you communicate > bullshit about somebody or an > organization to a third party, it is called SLANDER > which is a type of crime called > tort. At this point Vlad and FGE have all the right > to collect damages. Yep... you > fucked up big time! > > === Steve Best Unix Systems Administrator, Netscape Home (408)253-4982 Pager - (800)810-5032 ext Steve Best Don Kings hairstylist - (540)662-5789 Ceasar Romero - (540)665-2248 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 01:13:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28798 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 01:13:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 28543 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:12:58 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:12:58 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vXNCa21672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:12:09 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <6f1ffda0.243ab969@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:12:09 EDT Subject: Re: children of the sun...another review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk speaking of children of the sun and tattoos, did anybody see the guy with the PLUR tattoo on his back there? it was so beautiful! alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 01:16:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1130 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 01:16:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1100 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:16:48 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:16:48 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vTFMa02329 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:15:51 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <40dd2315.243aba47@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:15:51 EDT Subject: Re: children of the sun...another review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk p.s. i forgot to mention that it was in Japanese(or Chinese?) characters. that's what made it especially beautiful! alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 01:36:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12027 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 01:36:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 12018 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:36:38 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:36:38 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vNUJa15173 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:33:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:33:55 EDT Subject: Re:Sometimes people: ???? A short stroy To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I truly believe some people say one thing to someone and then turn around and say something Totally different to another. Several times I have witness this take place at parties. Its very unsettling to see a lack of Respect in people. I mean some will just say something to another and not know who will be standing right there. It truly amazes me to see people act like this. Its like for example: Joe comes up to some ravers and says Hi there, IM with this group and here is our flyers. Please come. They start talking and they mention someone else's flyer that they had not seen yet and Joe starts going off of on the other group. Saying all kinds of rude and disrespectful things about the other group. He goes as far as to say don't support these people. They are not what the rave scene is about! He goes on and on and the hole time he is smiling not knowing that there are a few other people standing and listening to what Joe is saying right behind him... The innocent ravers that are listening to him think he knows what he is talking about, so they listen and believe what Joe is saying, because he is TRYING to be COOL and PLURLY! But in all the time he spent dissin the other group he is not realizing he is being self destructive. So he say's to the Ravers his good byes while still smiling and says remember to come to my party and make sure you know that we are the REAL scene. and the other group is not. So the group of Ravers walk away... And so do the ones that were listening right behind Joe. Later on in the evening, the other group goes up to Joe and says, Hey what's up Joe (with a smile) and a hug and Joe responds with a smile. Joe reply's with, What's up buddy??????? hUMMM....The other group says, Hey, can I see your Flyer? The group READS and responses with respect and says great job and puts it in their pants pocket. I wish you guys nothing but the best and if you need us for anything don't hesitate to ask Joe... Joe starts talking and says can I see your flyer. The group says sure. Joe is like cool thanks, and starts saying that the group throws really good parties and that he really digs on the group and what they stand for... The group says in response all we want is for people to come together and have fun dancing and making friends. Joe is like, hey I know you guys want nothing but the best for people. And they say their good-byes and Joe turns around and throws the groups flyer on the ground. during this hole time the people that heard Joe dissing on the other group were right there listening to the hole thing that Joe was saying about the group and how great they were. They couldn't believe how phony Joe was. They were in shock and decided to go and tell the group what Joe was saying earlier about them to the innocent ravers. But before they did the group ran into the innocent ravers and tried to give them a flyer and they said they couldn't take it because they didn't want to support the group because they weren't what the rave scene was about. The group respectfully did not to give them a flyer, but they did ask the innocent ravers why they felt that way! The innocent Ravers couldn't say why, but they said that's what they were told. The group said Never believe something unless you experience the people behind the party and the party for yourself. We have a lot of different groups that throw parties and we wish nothing but the best for them. Some will say things that will try in make you see something horrible, but we are here to spread the good vibes and give you a place to express yourselves through music and the joy of uniting everyone as ONE. The innocent ravers looked shocked at what the group was saying. They looked at him and said, You know what? I want one of your flyers. The ravers took the flyer and put it in their pocket. The ravers said it was nice meeting and we will see you at the party! So they walked away. The ravers said to each other, Now there's the true spirit I think raves are about. Damn some people have some serious issue to deal with and I feel bad for that group that have to deal with guys Like Joe. So the people that over heard Joe talking shit went up to the group and let them in on what Joe and his group was saying to the innocent ravers and the group replied, You know there will always be people would will try to bring others down. Some will act has if they like you and turn on you in a heart beat just so that they fit in with other groups. We are here for everyone! If they want to be like that there is nothing we can do, but if there attempts becoming harming and even more personal we will take care of it the best way we can. The group said Thanks for your concern and it took a lot of guts for you to tell us that! We appreciate your honesty and we hope something positive will come out of all the bullshit! MY VIEWS: Believe it when I say, I feel sorry for certain people that have to deal with others that are Shit talking and back stabbing fools! I guess it takes a strong person to deal with it. But when do you say enough? We all cant be plurry all the time when it comes to others going to extreme measure to bring and try to destroy people. I for one have had it with some that do this on our scene. Some make a huge cap in our scene and that totally sucks!!! Please be careful out there. You really never know who will try to hurt you. Sad but true! This is a small scene and we all know that out there, there will always be shit talkers that will go out of their way to destroy the good ones that try to KEEP IT REAL as much as they can even when the bullshit gets ridiculous and way out of hand!!!! Wonder why groups get Sick of the Bullshit and finally say something about it! How many times are you going to let someone get away with it... If you cant grow up and handle things the right way then I guess you have to come down to their level! Lets make this (our Scene) a better place! Also always be careful who you talk to about certain things, because some who you may trust may not be who you think they are... Childish behavior is really what it comes down to! Let's make sure we all deal with things more humble and understanding! No one is perfect but we can help one another make things a lot better for our scene as a hole... Player hating has got to go.... I meant this letter in the best intentions possible! I hope some can see a bigger picture here.. Take care and always remember we are all here for the same reasons. With respect, Jeannie P.S. Lets all work together and we can reach the greatest rewards of Unity=LOVE WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER ! lETS NOT MAKE ANY BARRIERS! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 01:39:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13384 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 01:39:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 13375 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:39:13 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:39:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406013717.13114.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web4; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:37:16 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: Ray Vonie , Ki Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---Ray Vonie wrote: \ > > > > 1. this IS NOT a cloudfactory attempt to take you down. where did you > > get that idea? b/c my addy just happens to be ki@cloudfactory.org? > > Look, you represent them by being one of their members... so don't try to > bullshit anyone, Including yourself. A persons actions reflect all those they > are associated with... And as far as I'm concerned, you're not in this alone, and > others in your group are very aware of what you are doing, and either support > you, or are doing nothing to encourage you to back down.,.. In either case... > that means They accept your actions, and have let you step forth as their > representative. Vlad, this is a terrible generalization on your part. Not everyone who is on the CF list has a CF account. Not everyone who has a CF addy is on the list. It's just an email address, not a membership card. Ki is no more a representative of cloudfactory than I am of sfraves. If I had a hyperreal address would it make me an SFRAVES representative? No, it wouldn't. As far as what is being discussed on a different list, it is neither here nor there. You can believe that everyone is against you, but it simply is not the truth. peace Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 01:40:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14578 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 01:40:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14549 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:40:29 -0000 Received: from web703.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:40:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406014100.7659.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.145] by web703.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:41:00 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:41:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: NRR: *sigh* To: sfr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thought of the week: Peace Love Unity Respect PLUR, like many ideals (e.g. love, enlightenment), is not a destination. It is a way. How do *you* find your way when you've lost your way? When you are on the way, are you aware of it? When you lose your way, do you know you've lost your way? Or do *you* depend on someone else to tell you? Can you get back on your way alone, or does it take someone else to show you the way again? To take you there again? Just a little Taoism for a grey Monday. Hope everyone had as grreat a weekend as I did. Reviews to come... === *lol* to all, happy raver alex From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 01:41:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15305 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 01:41:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15285 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:41:05 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:41:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406013445.3014.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:34:45 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:34:45 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: NRR: Cafe Babylon To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well the rent there was crazy... even though they did decent business, it still was not enough. I hear an architect bought the building. Sad it is... -Science ---RobinT wrote: > > Does anyone know why Cafe' Babylon closed down? It was like, one day > they were open then boom closed the next! I am soooo hurt! **snif** > **snif** WHAAAAA!!! > xoxox > RobinT > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 01:41:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15304 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 01:41:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 15282 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:41:05 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:41:05 -0000 Received: from [209.152.135.56] (helo=[209.152.135.56]) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10UKrH-00034y-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:41:00 -0700 X-Sender: illumin8@pop.slip.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:07:38 -0900 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: F-8 Subject: New Mars tape out Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk MARS The Electric Temple 90 Minutes. CRO2 Stay Tuned In. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:13:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 592 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:13:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 565 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:13:02 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:13:02 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id xQNKa18465; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:08:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:08:04 EDT Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have something to say regarding this issue. Even though its between the both of them. I have seen and wittnessed things you guys couldnt imagine. There are extreme letters I have seen for myself and that my friend is enough to set anyone off. Even Vlad.. Being that he is the one who gets the most of the bullshit! Even when its not even needed. Not just because Vlad is my boyfriend, he can deal with his own battles. But if some of you keep on putting your names and info on our sites you are going to get something from us.. There have been several people that have done this time after time... Even after they have requested to be off the list. But then they pop up again requesting info.... Please be careful of your other handles as well... I personally think this has gone to far... Take it privately.... It's very simple and if you have a problem just call us and make sure you give us the correct info.... It very easy to get a hold of Vlad and talk to him... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:20:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5151 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:20:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 5122 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:20:17 -0000 Received: from f207.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.98) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:20:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 62625 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 02:19:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406021939.62624.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:19:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: New Mars tape out Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:19:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk MARS The Electric Temple 90 Minutes. CRO2 Stay Tuned In. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:29:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9511 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:29:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 9502 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:28:58 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:28:58 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vRBMa27095 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:26:27 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:26:27 EDT Subject: I got a really good cd.. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone else have the "in the mix-Ibiza" CD.. it is like a record of my life from 1998! anyhow.. just wondering if anyone else had it and what they thought of it.. <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:29:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10192 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:29:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 10182 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:29:21 -0000 Received: from web605.mail.yahoo.com (HELO web605.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.169) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:29:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406023334.24003.rocketmail@ web605.yahoomail.com> Received: from [165.113.171.98] by web605.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:33:34 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:33:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ryan Warren Subject: Re: <> The Matrix To: unclenoah , E-Bumpers By the Bay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Everybody The Matrix was a great movie. Even though is was based on a japenise animated cartoon they did a good job. the graphics were killer and even had a good plot. It makes you wonder if life is really that why.hahaha. (I would have tooken the blue pill.) Keanu best acting ever for one reason only, he hardly talked. Good job by the producers to keep it that way. Lawernce Fishborne did a good job. I like him he's a good actor. All in all good moviecan't wait to see it again. My only complaint is that with these type of movies their only good on the big screen. So go and see it in the theater its worth 7 bucks to even see it twice. Peace Ryan --- unclenoah wrote: > > > okay, i saw The Matrix. Keanu was still best in > Bill & Ted, but he's > tolerable in this one. > > the effects are amazing, i have to agree with > everyone here. they really > flow well and you almost can't see where the CGI > takes over the frames. > > i was expecting a really interesting, possibly > confusing plot out of this > one and i was a little disappointed on that end. > the movie reminded me > very much of 'Tron' a movie Disney made in the early > 80's about Jeff > Bridges getting sucked into a computer... i kept > expecting Keanu to say, > "Let's see some User power!" and then toss his disc > at the evil MCP! :D > > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Carly Bourne wrote: > > > > > Alright.. until I saw this movie I really hated > keanu... but this movie was > > so incredible I can actually forgive him for > SPEED... need I say more. > > This movie is unbelievable... my boyfriend and I > couldnt stop > > philosophising and talking about this for > hours.... such a good movie. And > > the effects are amazing... even if you dont like > the plot, etc.... its just > > neat to look at. > > > > Just my opinion :) > > -Carly > > > > >>i tottaly aggree with elias deffinatly c this > movy > > >>elias_smith@juno.com writes: > > >> > > >><< Fuck yeah. See this movie, see this movie, > see this movie. > > >> It cheeses out at certain points, but is worth > it. It's so freakin' good, > > >> you're actually not bothered by the fact that > you are watching Keanu > > >> Reeves try and do martial arts! > > >> See this movie, see this movie, see this > movie... > > >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * * > > > > Carly Bourne------> > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 > > BareStage Online--> > http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > GTA - "The Parti EP" > Orbit Trnsmission 007 > available now at your local record shop. > > info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 > Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:30:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12405 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:30:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 12392 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:30:50 -0000 Received: from web601.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.165) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:30:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406023110.28827.rocketmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.113.171.98] by web601.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:31:10 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:31:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ryan Warren Subject: Re: <> The Matrix To: unclenoah , E-Bumpers By the Bay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Everybody The Matrix was a great movie. Even though is was based on a Japanese animated cartoon they did a good job. the graphics were killer and even had a good plot. It makes you wonder if life is really that why.hahaha. (I would have took en the blue pill.) Keanu best acting ever for one reason only, he hardly talked. Good job by the producers to keep it that way. Lawernce Fishborne did a good job. I like him he's a good actor. All in all good movie, can't wait to see it again. My only complaint is that with these type of movies their only good on the big screen. So go and see it in the theater its worth 7 bucks to even see it twice. Peace Ryan --- unclenoah wrote: > > > okay, i saw The Matrix. Keanu was still best in > Bill & Ted, but he's > tolerable in this one. > > the effects are amazing, i have to agree with > everyone here. they really > flow well and you almost can't see where the CGI > takes over the frames. > > i was expecting a really interesting, possibly > confusing plot out of this > one and i was a little disappointed on that end. > the movie reminded me > very much of 'Tron' a movie Disney made in the early > 80's about Jeff > Bridges getting sucked into a computer... i kept > expecting Keanu to say, > "Let's see some User power!" and then toss his disc > at the evil MCP! :D > > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Carly Bourne wrote: > > > > > Alright.. until I saw this movie I really hated > keanu... but this movie was > > so incredible I can actually forgive him for > SPEED... need I say more. > > This movie is unbelievable... my boyfriend and I > couldnt stop > > philosophising and talking about this for > hours.... such a good movie. And > > the effects are amazing... even if you dont like > the plot, etc.... its just > > neat to look at. > > > > Just my opinion :) > > -Carly > > > > >>i tottaly aggree with elias deffinatly c this > movy > > >>elias_smith@juno.com writes: > > >> > > >><< Fuck yeah. See this movie, see this movie, > see this movie. > > >> It cheeses out at certain points, but is worth > it. It's so freakin' good, > > >> you're actually not bothered by the fact that > you are watching Keanu > > >> Reeves try and do martial arts! > > >> See this movie, see this movie, see this > movie... > > >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * * > > > > Carly Bourne------> > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 > > BareStage Online--> > http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > GTA - "The Parti EP" > Orbit Trnsmission 007 > available now at your local record shop. > > info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 > Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:36:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15006 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:36:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 14993 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:36:02 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:36:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 8314 invoked by uid 4000); 6 Apr 1999 02:36:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:36:29 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf To: unclenoah cc: E-Bumpers By the Bay Subject: Re: <> The Matrix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, unclenoah wrote: > Bridges getting sucked into a computer... i kept expecting Keanu to say, > "Let's see some User power!" and then toss his disc at the evil MCP! :D I saw Tron recently; it's barely dated at all, which is saying something. Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:41:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17542 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:40:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 17501 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:40:45 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:40:45 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vQAAa16057 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <2808fe84.243acd76@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:37:42 EDT Subject: a really phat trance wav... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey to all u trancers...i have a really good wav for peeps on aol...ill be happy to send it to ya.. rememba.. only people on aol...just something to spread the good vibes... only for a moment ;) PLUR lov ya guys.. valerie ;) P.S.....tell me if your'e going to Tickle... ill see ya there :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:42:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19238 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:42:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 18910 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:42:37 -0000 Received: from f242.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.133) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:42:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29616 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 02:42:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406024209.29615.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:42:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: Ravergrl27@aol.com, eeelips@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: paging wayne, ravergirl and jedi bitch Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:42:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: Ravergrl27@aol.com >To: waynerad@hotmail.com, eeelips@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: paging wayne, ravergirl and jedi bitch >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:03:52 EST > >In a message dated 3/31/99 8:35:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, >waynerad@hotmail.com writes: > ><< > You know, I had no idea you were on this list, Jeannie. > One of my CD's has your name on it. So, um... hi :)>> > > >Well, hello to you as well! =) And yes you are correct about the CD. The Moda >CD is the one I think you are talking about! There may be more (*^*) but I >think you are talking about Moda's!!!! Yes, indeed, it is MODA's CD! >>>Nice to know you're so pleased with your mate. So you & Vlad > have been together for 9 years, eh? I've never had a relationship > last that long. Lemme see, that's about 234 times longer than > my longest-lasting relationship.>> > > Well, your time will come. Trust me. You will find someone special and when >you come across that person you will know it and will never want it to let the >person go! Your journey is never far. You too one day will want to share your >life's path with someone who will be there in every way. The most >inspirational people are the ones that have learned and experienced the love >of each other. FACT: All we have is the love of one another! I met Wonderful >70 year old couple while vacationing in Aruba and after meeting them I look at >relationships in a hole new way!!! They were Angels undercover and Taught me >Valuable lessons I will never forget!! Love is the ultimate reward of life! Ok, well, I can't predict the future, and neither can you... but that's a really nice thing for you to say anyway :) > > Behind every good man there has got to be a good women > > >>In other words, if you're single, like me, you suck!>> > > > >No, you are learning your own individuality right now.. No, sorry, my saturn return has come and gone. >A time will come and >the person you want to share your life with will only Compliment your journey. >They will teach you things and you will teach them as well... Relationships >are very complex and with understanding and caring and communicating it will >be a Greatest reward to your life's journey! Heh heh, I was reading a magazine today and saw a Gloria Steinem quote, she said something like "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle." I guess you disagree with her... > >>P.S. But do you swallow? Uhh!!! Nevermind. >> > >LOL, Now, Now settle down!!! This is Sfraves not Sfsex! There's an Sfsex? How do I sign up? >Take care... >Jeannie Wayne From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:46:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21448 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:46:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 21410 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:46:13 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:46:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406024626.29347.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [38.28.75.239] by web135.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:46:26 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:46:26 -0700 (PDT) From: dmarie Subject: EkLeKTiC - juju-abstract-recon future jungle and TIM LOVE LEE on the lower level with Rebel-lion To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk EkLekTic SaN FrAnCIsCo FutURiSm this week we proudly present upstiars in the loft: forward thinking massive junglist explosions featuring: ***JUJU*** (phunckateck) ***ABSTRACT*** (phunckateck) ***RECON*** (Redemption, Oakland) on the lower level: turntable experimentations with the famed ***TIM LOVE LEE*** (Tummy Touch, UK, 360 Records, USA) ***REBEL-LION aka Felix the Dog*** (groundscore/black diamond) Come join our warm, smooth vibe and mix it up with the up & down action. Eklektic 78 Minna Street SF, www.izmedia.com/eklektic/ 10-2 *much love the way through* Much respect Worldwide dmarie & Miss E groundscore eklektic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 02:52:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25028 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 02:52:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 24922 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 02:52:48 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 02:52:48 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00800 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990405195509.007df630@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:55:09 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: GO the movie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've got mixed feelings about this one from just browsing the website... http://www.spe.sony.com/movies/go/ Its made by the makers of swingers.. which was admittedly a funny movie... and it seems to be a movie about a bunch of young "hipsters" who happen to go to a rave, not a movie about ravers... yet it boasts the setting as the underground music/club scene of LA and Vegas. What confuses me is the soundtrack. It features Natalie Imbruglia, No Doubt and Eagle Eye Cherry.. not exactly club/rave anthems....I'm confused. Please post a review when/if you see this.. I want input before I hand over $8 bucks. -Carly P.S. see THE MATRIX and also LOCK,STOCK,AND TWO SMOKING BARRELS.... two great movies! *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 03:12:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4190 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 03:12:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 4179 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 03:12:17 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 03:12:17 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA13317; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:11:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca47-37.ix.netcom.com(209.110.235.165) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma013282; Mon Apr 5 22:10:49 1999 Message-ID: <3708D193.44A8044C@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 08:07:00 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainmnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCiEnCe CC: Ki , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... References: <19990406013717.13114.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SCiEnCe wrote: > Vlad, this is a terrible generalization on your part. Not everyone who > is on the CF list has a CF account. Not everyone who has a CF addy is > on the list. It's just an email address, not a membership card. In that case I'm glad you pointed it out. Thank You and I apologize to cloudfactoy for associating them with this thread. I was not aware, and was under the impression that in order to have a domain e-mail address, you had to be part of that group. I'm glad that is not the case, because I do have respect for cloudfactory group and their parties. > Ki is no more a representative of cloudfactory than I am of sfraves. > If I had a hyperreal address would it make me an SFRAVES > representative? No, it wouldn't. I did not know you could have a hyperreal address? The only people I have ever seen with them are SFRaves administrators, or the individual list-serves. This is news to me... and good news to know that this guy is just a subscriber to their list, and not on of the people that represents them. It reinstated my respect and credibility in their organization. > As far as what is being discussed on a different list, it is neither > here nor there. You can believe that everyone is against you, but it > simply is not the truth. Thanks Alex. I don't trip if people have their own negative opinions of me... we are all entitled to them, but I will defend myself if they attack me based on their opinions Keep it Real... Vlad > > > peace > > Science > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 03:16:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6144 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 03:16:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 6120 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 03:16:38 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?Ki0x1aM9cA6TZzxKHKIHzgtyh8dAEbom?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 03:16:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id UAA05918; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:16:29 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:16:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Brian Behlendorf cc: unclenoah , E-Bumpers By the Bay Subject: Re: <> The Matrix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > > I saw Tron recently; it's barely dated at all, which is saying something. > > Brian > Can any of the rest of you pinpoint the first time you lost your innocence? I was 6 years old watching the Oscars with my Ma. The award for Best costume Design came on. Tron, right? My favorite movie so far that I had ever seen. No. Burlap sacks. Sandals. Little round glasses. Ghandi won. Are you kidding me? I asked my Ma why Tron didn't win. "Max, sometimes life isn't fair." Whoah. That was heavy shit for a 6 year old. 10-4, duh, max so don't ask my why I don't believe in the Universe, okay? =D From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 03:41:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17058 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 03:41:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 17047 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 03:41:36 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 03:41:36 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA19112; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca47-37.ix.netcom.com(209.110.235.165) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma019017; Mon Apr 5 22:40:09 1999 Message-ID: <3708D875.D5FEF1AD@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 08:36:21 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainmnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "U.A.A." CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FG Spam References: <199904052230.RAA14275@galaxy.galstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk U.A.A. wrote: > So I got spammed a while back from Vlad, I replied with REMOVE > and 6 months later I got 2 more emails from him. Again I replied with REMOVE > in the subject. Guess I will have to wait and see if I get spammed again. No not any more, I received you last REMOVE request and was happy to oblige, but do not remember getting the one 6 months ago or it would have been taken care of then. > Just a fair warning if I do get spammed again I will also report it to your > ISP. > > But you know what?!, I do the same for every piece of spam I get. > > Am I supposed to make some exception for you Vlad? I won't. > Law of the land (the internet) states that continued unsolicited emails risk > loss of your account. I didn't make up the rules, but we all must obide by > them. So if you want to spam the entire world, I don't care, just don't start > whining and bitching when people start calling you on it. > > You try and point the finger at who started it, but the fact remains that none > this would have ever come to be, if you or someone in your organization hadn't > put together an email list and sent out a bunch of unsolicited emails. None of this would have to be if Ki would have acted as respectful as you did, and asked me to remove his ACTUAL e-mail address... because as I told him, and in the last e-mail... Ki@cloudfactory is NOT on my list... plain and simple. > Thats the plain and simple truth. > > Ray Vonie wrote: > -> The Truth Shall Set You Free... Vlad > > But I am reading the rest of your posts and can't believe some of the crap > I am reading. > > Where is the PLUR in calling a collective a bunch of cock blocking player > haters? Especially when you know little to nothing about it and the people > who are apart of it. Respect goes both ways Vlad. Yes, and in this case, I am at fault for assuming that Ki was a part of clodfactory because of the e-mail address. That was my bad.. I was unaware that was a possibility. If someone had an email address.. like John@globalparty.com... then John would have to be a member of FGE... no other way around it. > And then to associate everyone in the collective (whom you don't even know) and > group them together. Anyone else see the ingorance in his comments? > He then goes so far to say imply that it could have been Ki that called the cops > on his party?! > Hold on a minute. Getting your email account closed and calling the cops on > your party. Thats a big fucking stretch Vlad. Well... why not ... he has already proven himself to rat out promoters whose practices he does not approve of... and The police verified that the information they received came to them via -email from the internet... and the only online info on this party came from remarks on SFRaves, and the e-mails I sent out about it... to everyone in my address book. I know it's someone on this list ... That's a fact. And it Is probably someone that has a history of ratting out promoters an thinks they can get away with it... again. So he's at the top of my list of suspects right now. Maybe it's all circumstantial... but shit... if the shoe fits... > I mean shit, so you get your > account closed. You have to find another account with one of the hundreds of > ISP's out there. So yeah its a big inconvience but no real harm done. It's a bit more than a big inconvenience. How would you like it if some asshole had your phone shut down because you were crank calling his house, and all you did was accidentally dialed the wrong number ONCE!! And you had this number for YEARS.. and that's how many people reach you every day... Not a big inconvenience... but a major injustice... how pissed would you be about that? > Everyone. please see what really is going on here. Battle of ego's yes! > A collective out to get a massive promoter? no. > > Aren't we a little old to resort to name calling? > > The worst part of the mess is the us vs. them > > There is no US vs. THEM. Hey Vlad the U in PLUR stands for Unity. Stop trying > to divide us! ME??? Shit I'm the one trying to bring people together through music and dancing... these aren't death threats Im e-mailing people... they are party invitations. If a promoter can't even send a raver information about a rave without wondering if he's going to get narc'ed out to his ISP... then what the hell is going on here? Thanks for the Info, and keep it mellow, Vlad > --Herb > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little > temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > > --Benjamin Franklin From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 04:52:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14646 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 04:52:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 14620 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 04:52:43 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 04:52:43 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA25629; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:51:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca47-37.ix.netcom.com(209.110.235.165) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma025571; Mon Apr 5 23:50:47 1999 Message-ID: <3708E902.7ABEB6E5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:46:59 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainmnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ki CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <199904060045.RAA29635@sugarbeet.salinas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ki wrote: > hi everyon, > This is my last post regarding this issue. Vlad if you want to take this > off the list then let's do that cause this is getting out of hand. Nah... I like it just the way it is... If you really wanted to take this off list then you wouldn't have sent this to the list... now would you? That's what I thought. > >In the first place, nice people don't hold grudges over bullshit... and > >secondly... you're the one who brought this to the list. You could have > just > >e-mailed me privately, but that would have been to nice of a thing to do. > > While i did take it to the list i did not resort to flaming, name calling, > physical threats nor did i even bring the reason for my request to the > list. You should be more honest with people... and yourself... Maybe calling someone a liar is no not name calling to you...but it is to others. And I knew your intentions of why you posted that to the list... why were you trying to hide it from others? > i corresponded with everyone who wrote me privately. i also > responded the way i did cause i do not take phycical threats very lightly. > grow up Vlad. I never threatened you. show me were i did. I did however imply that you would regret this action, and are in over your head taking me on... and I stick to that... If you're afraid of me ... then maybe you shouldn't pick a fight with me. > I did email you privately the first time. i told you get " > take me off the fucking list". you straigt up lied to me and said you > never sent it. YOU ARE A LIAR. The headers don't lie. Show me these headers an prove me a liar. At least that way I can get your right e-mail address of my list, since you NEVER... not even in this e-mail have told me what your correct e-mail address is. > This would have > ended long ago if you only had complied to my request. You refused to > take me off the list. You refused to give me your address.. and still refuse to do so... how can I? > I reported you. i tried it the nice way it didn't > work. Oh... that's the nice way? That's chicken shit in my book... like a little cry baby would do. > my friends have tried it the nice way it didn't work. you are > either stubborn or you actually have know idea what your doing. if that is > the case i have no respect for that. this is what you do for a living. > learn the rules. Maybe, like you, your friends addresses are not in my list... and are getting them reforwarded form a list serve, or some other way. I remove anyone that has ever asked me... so if your friends have a problem, ask them to e-mail me, I will be glad to remove them, If they are on it. > >No it's how a I respond when I'm being attacked. I doubt that this is > how you > >treat all your spam, going after peoples providers.. It's obviously a > personal > >issue being played out here. > > No i do this with all spammers i don't support or agree with. Why do you > think it is personal Vlad? Because you made it personal. You're the one that is making the campaign to my ISP... shit I don't even know who the hell you are... so it can't be personal for me... im just defending myself from an unfair attack. > I've been on this list for two years and not > once have i EVER wrote in flaming you, dissing you, Threatening you. Why > would i after two years of not saying anything all of a sudden start a > campaign to take you down. Paranoia will destroya!!!! do you have a > reason to be paranoid in thinking all this? Well if you have been on this list for this long, then you would know better. Obviously I have taken enough shit from people on this list that anyone who has been on here that long would know that I will defend myself. > why are you acting like you've > been backed into a corner? It's people who usually know they are wrong who > react violently trying to save face. this could all have been avoided > simply by taking me off the list. Look list boy... you keep saying that I could have avoided all this... but it's you that has NEVER given me the right e-mail address. So don't try to make me out to be the bad guy... you can't turn the tables on me.... don't even try. > >Anyone that read this can obviously tell that this is more than just about > >stopping any additional receipt of spam e-mail from me. You're starting > shit > >with me using this e-mail spam as an excuse... it's so obvious to everyone > who > >reads this last thing you wrote about what you think about me and my parties. > > yes, i don't agree with the way you do things but i don't agree with a lot > of big promoters. have i ever tried starting anything with them or you? YOU IDIOT... You just did start something with me... wake UP!!! This aint a game for me, you have already wasted way to much of my time. > >Look, you represent them by being one of their members... so don't try to > >bullshit anyone, Including yourself. A persons actions reflect all those > they > >are associated with... And as far as I'm concerned, you're not in this > alone, and > >others in your group are very aware of what you are doing, and either support > >you, or are doing nothing to encourage you to back down.,.. In either case... > >that means They accept your actions, and have let you step forth as their > >representative. By them doing nothing, means they agree with you... so > YOU ARE > >representing them. Sorry if I had to school you on that... but That's > >reality. AND if it is all your doing, and you just want to start shit > with me, > >then maybe you shouldn't be so selfish, and have considered others you > work with > >and how it will effect them to be on my bad side... But I guess that would > have > >been way to mature. > > What Herb said. And I apologize to cloudfactory for associating them with you. > >As I said then, and will AGAIN repeat now... Ki@cloudfactory, is not in my > list, > >and you received it another way, I have checked then and I have checked > now, and > >when I asked you for other e-mail addresses you had that it could be under > you > >never replied and called me a liar. You're the unintelligent one, > because I'm > >not denying that I sent the e-mail, so of course the header will reflect the > >origin.... But it went BCC... so how do YOU know what address it was sent > to, or > >how it got to you? > > why do you insist on lying to me. I've received two posts from you. one > to sfraves the other directly to me. You are a LIAR. I have told you in every e-mail I sent you that you are not on the damn list, don't you think I would have removed your lame ass by now if you were? > Intelligence? let > me give you a little lesson in email. there are these things called > headers that tell you how the message and what servers the message was > delivered to. I have one in my possession that you wrote straight to my > cloudfactory account and one that came from hyperreal.org. Fine send me that header... if you had it, why not show everyone just how wrong I am. At least then I will find out how you are receiving these e-mails when I'm not the one sending them. > educate > yourself before you start SPAMMING people cause it RUDE especially if it is > to people in your community. that is disprespectful Vlad. trying to be > sneakky with the BCC huh? it's not that simple It's party information. You're a raver, Im a promoter, Im sending you info on a party. You don't like.. don't go. don't want to receive it, send me your correct e-mail address... because I can't tell how you're getting it. show me the header. > >Thanks... I really appreciated that vindictive move. I didn't say > anything to > >you at the time, and let it blow over... but if you think you can Screw me > over > >twice, and laugh about it... man are you ever ignorant. > > More threats Vlad? hehehehehehehehe. you amuse me. i'm pushing all the > right buttons. You're too predictable. That's not a treat... that's the truth. Don't try to egg me on... if you knew anything about pressing buttons, then you would have found the delete key, and none of this would be necessary. > And Now I'm starting to > >wonder if it was YOU that was the one that tipped of the Fremont PD about > friday, > >and got our party busted... I wouldn't pass that by you seeing how > vindictive and > >out of line you are. > > Please don't. you're making assumptions again. Why do you think i am > vindictive. cause i asked you take me off the list and you refused forcing > me to file a complaint? that's hardly vindictive. It is in my book. And you're a proven RAT by your own admission. you ratted me out once, and I let you get away with it. How do I know that you didn't take that e-mail and forward it to the PD... you forwarded it to netcom. I let you get over on me already once... so maybe you felt confident and cocky enough to fuck with me even more... you already admitted that you don't like promoters like me, or what we stand for... so why wouldn't you notify the cops... it's just one click on the send button... no big deal to a rat like you. I know someone from this list is responsible for this.... and you're my prime candidate. It's a sad fucking thing when a raver rats out a promoter for getting info on a party. Hope you're proud of yourself. > >> The whole issue would > >> have been dropped at this point if you would have simply taken me off the > >> list. > > > > >The whole issue would have been dropped if you didn't bring it back up. > as far > >as I'm concerned... you're not on my e-mail list, at least not under this > e-mail; > >address. But maybe you subscribe to other list groups that are on my e-mail > >list, and that's how you received it... but maybe that's too abstract a > concept > >for your narrow mind to grasp. > > you can lie all you want but i've got the headers to prove it. Prove it to me... and everyone else. > >It's very obvious what you think of me... and more clear now why you want > to fuck > >with me... and how little it really is about this e-mail spam... and how > much > >this is about your personal attack on me. > > do you actually think that b/c i disagree with your multipage glossy flyers > and the way you operate that i would go to such lengths to take you down > like that. you're a paranoid FOOL. You've never done anything to me > except spam me. all i'm doing is filing a complaint asking other people to > do so llike your isp has asked me todo. You think that that's nothing? Like it's no big deal to you? It's a direct attack on me... that's the way I see it. You are organizing an aggressive move to screw me, and Im defending myself. If it means so little to you then drop it and step the fuck down before I step up even more. Iv had this e-mail account for 4 years, and I'll be dammed if some little prick like you is going to make me go through the trouble of notified every person I know and receive e-mail from, and print new cards and letterhead, and reconfigure my web site... and go through all sorts of shit just because he won't tell me his e-mail address so I can remove him from my list. > >Like I said... you had your fun... now you are attacking me personally... > and you > >are biting off so much more than you could ever swallow. It's still not > to late > >to back down. You've already lost, why make it any worse. > > No i'm filing a formal complaint on YOU A SPAMMER. They wouldn't let you file a compliant... they needed more witnesses, and additional e-mail proof, that's why you went to the lost to get people to send you their e-mails. You couldn't do it alone. And I'm not going to sit by and watch you manipulate others for your own personal crusade to get over on me. It aint gona happen. Were not going to take this private until everyone on this list knows just what a little punk you are, and how you tried to use them for your own agenda. You had a chance to do the right thing in the last e-mail I sent you this morning, but you blew it. > >LOL:) You just admitted that YOU wrote the list, a list that YOU know Im > on, > >and I READ. How did YOU want to keep this private? Did you think I would > >just sit by and not say anything? Did YOU ever underestimate me... boy > oh boy > >are you going to learn a valuable lesson over this. > > Vlad i don't care what you think. i stopped caring when you lied to me > about sending the spam. i stopped caring when you refused to take me off > the list. Everytime someone disagrees with you on this list you strike out > violently. what's up with that? Not true... I love to have constructive conversations with on this list. The only problem is that most of the time im to busy defending myself from people attacking me, like target practice... just like you do... and Im not going to roll over an take it. >Everyone sees that this isn't about spam.. it's about your ego. You care > >nothing about spam... you have made that obvious. What you do care about is > >being a Player Hater... and all because you can't play, you don't want > other's to > >play either... Im used to it, I see it with parents, cops, and your > category... > >cock blockers. People who screw with others for fun because they think > they can > >get away with it. > > your grasping at air, depserately. i'm watching reading and LOL! YOU > Fucked up VLAD not me. but i guess you will never know that since you > wouldn't take me off the list even after i complained to you tye first > time. You should have sent me your e-mail address that first time, and you should have e-mailed me privately this last time. even in this whole thread you have never given me your address. > It would have never come to this if you would have simply respected > me enought to comply to my request. this is about your ego Vad and how you > could give a fuck about anyone else. anything to make a buck right? or save a buck. Look punk... You don't know me... and at this rate you never will. make sure if you see me coming you turn around and walk in another direction. don't look at it as a threat, just another piece of advice, because I hope to never meat the likes of you. > >Ki... Im giving you one last opportunity do get of my back and figure out > which > >of your e-mail addresses is in my address book so i can remove it. Don't > be a > > >schmuck. You can still save yourself and your friends some face... > think it > >through. Im not going to be this generous again with you. > > Don't make empty threats you can't follow through on cause i'm starting to > get impatient with you. You're starting to bore me you're so predictable. predict this... how long i will still be in this scene after you are long gone. If you do not want to receive any more e-mail from me, then privately send me your e-mail address... the correct one, and I will remove. If you have more than one, and you obviously do, send them all and I will check for all of them. Im tired of this. You have wasted way to much of my time on this. Im waiting to hear back from the police with more info on the e-mail they received... I sure do hope it didn't come from you. I just can't PREDICT what would happen if it did... But you seem to be good at predicting things.. maybe you can tell me? Keep it Real.... Vlad From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 04:54:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15537 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 04:53:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15518 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 04:53:55 -0000 Received: from law-f69.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 04:53:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 41342 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 04:53:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406045328.41341.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.214.8 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:53:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.214.8] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: spiritual experiences @parties... Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:53:27 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I love this thread. One of many beautiful sunrises: Evar anniversary party in 1992? 1993? At a skating rink in Santee, about twenty minutes east of San Diego. A night to remember. Great vibe, happy, happy people from all over SoCal. Mark E Quark (?) spinning the sunrise set: "Sunshine on a Rainy Day . . ." and they throw open all the doors lining the back wall of the skating rink. Light streams in. Everyone cheers. Everyone starts cleaning up the skating rink. Afterwards, we are still so elated, ecstatic from the party, a group of ten cars drives into the hills (Mission Trails regional Park?) and we park our cars and just sit at the side of the road. Silent. Grinning. We just sit there full of love, not wanting to separate or join the rest of the world. Haven't heard that song since. Don't know if I want to. Hugs, Kari From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 04:57:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18172 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 04:57:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 18157 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 04:57:40 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 04:57:40 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vDEQa17550 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:56:18 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <62af99cf.243aedf2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:56:18 EDT Subject: Re: GO the movie To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hehehe here we go. i think Go could be alot better if they tried but hey its supposed to be a fun (this could never happen) wild saturday nite adventure movie for kicks. if they had any rave anthems at all in it i still wouldnt go see it for the soundtrack cause itd be all the stuff i normally dislike or have heard on the radio already (propeller hedz in the MATRIXs' best shootin scene!!! cmon!!! gimme something meaner!) Go is gonna be good and i definetly wanna see it to check out how our scene and culture is viewed as from the eyes of other people. if its anything like No DOUBTs new video i think im gonna die laughing (or crying) cause its too funny/sad how we were totally glaorized style wise (didja see those feathers??? like a frickin peacock!) i have to admit i dont know what the entire movie is about but from the previews i am kind of worried about the image of what a raver is the movie may portray. i see this kid with a gun, kids stealin a car, do they kill someone??? i mean wont that (if im rightabout it of course) bring up some kind of thing in the general public where they will say "dood ravers are like the total edge of dangerous and excitement! they live for the thrill of anything whether it be a stolen car or a gun..." it might attract the wrong people to raves, i.e. people without the will to find the spirit of raving and just go for the rendyness of it to be "cool" and those who might just be trouble makers (like we dont have enough already) but im still gonna watch it in all my kandy WITH Elmo damnit! -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 04:59:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19430 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 04:59:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19422 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 04:59:43 -0000 Received: from smtp.well.com (206.80.6.147) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 04:59:43 -0000 Received: from well.com (nobody@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA06118; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from phred@localhost) by well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25561; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:59:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Fred Heutte" Message-Id: <9904052159.ZM25559@well.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:59:35 -0700 In-Reply-To: Ray Vonie "Re: nrr...if you've received spam from..." (Apr 5, 9:46am) References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <199904060045.RAA29635@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <3708E902.7ABEB6E5@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: Ray Vonie , Ki Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, Vlad, it's truth telling time. Did you or did you not collect names from sfraves to build up your own mailing list? And remember, Vlad, when you answer this question: Keep it real. phred From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 05:02:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21377 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 05:02:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21353 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 05:02:03 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 05:02:03 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7HDX634; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 01:01:12 EDT To: groundscore@yahoo.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:02:55 -0700 Subject: Re: EkLeKTiC - juju-abstract-recon future jungle and TIM LOVE LEE on the lower level with Rebel-lion Message-ID: <19990405.220336.-82407.2.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-6,8-47 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hells yeah! I have to go. Tim Love Lee is tha shit!!!! Not only is he a dope ass musician, looking straight out of disco with his bell bottoms, he's hella nice. Damn, now I have to go. Peace, Theresa On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:46:26 -0700 (PDT) dmarie writes: >EkLekTic SaN FrAnCIsCo FutURiSm >this week we proudly present > >upstiars in the loft: forward thinking massive >junglist explosions featuring: > >***JUJU*** (phunckateck) > >***ABSTRACT*** (phunckateck) > >***RECON*** (Redemption, Oakland) > >on the lower level: turntable experimentations with >the famed > >***TIM LOVE LEE*** (Tummy Touch, UK, 360 Records, USA) > >***REBEL-LION aka Felix the Dog*** (groundscore/black >diamond) > >Come join our warm, smooth vibe and mix it up with the >up & down action. > >Eklektic >78 Minna Street >SF, www.izmedia.com/eklektic/ >10-2 *much love the way through* > >Much respect Worldwide >dmarie & Miss E >groundscore >eklektic > > > > > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 05:03:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22897 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 05:03:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 22679 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 05:03:14 -0000 Received: from grebe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.100) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 05:03:14 -0000 Received: from default (1Cust172.tnt3.hou3.da.uu.net [153.36.204.172]) by grebe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA22149; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904060503.WAA22149@grebe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> From: "Luke Monteiro" To: scr@socal-raves.org, ravelinks@ravelinks.com Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:01:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Massive Love- April 10th, 1999 Reply-to: xtra@hempseed.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-reply-to: <4341ec42.243aa83f@aol.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all your kids in Cali: Dont forget to come to Massive Love in L.A on April 10th, I will be spinning in the main room along with lots of superstars, Props to ADJC for putting together a great event like this, It will be my first time in LA and I would love to meet some of u kids..Take care!! L u k e M o n t e i r o- A r m a l y t e R e c o r d s F a x- 4 6. 8. 2 0 8 5 0 4 - S t o c k h o l m, S w e d e n http://emil.techno.org -S w e d i s h T e c h n o G u i d e From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 05:18:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28762 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 05:17:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 28753 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 05:17:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 05:17:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 55660 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 05:17:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406051759.55659.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:17:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Fwd: Report from Goa - Issue #2 - from the crunchman Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:17:58 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I got another message from the crunchman in Goa... This one's sounding a lot more fun than the last one! I'll just shut up and let you read about it! Wayne (P.S. Hey Crunchman: I accidentally deleted the message w/ your rant about the crappy ISP service in Goa... hope that wasn't intended for mass consumption? :) ------------- A report from Goa ----------------- Greetings again from Goa India - where the Party season is winding down, but one would never know it, as there are still parties here almost everyday. Last full moon party last wednesday was totally awsome... excellent Psychedelic Trance of the Goan variety filled the tropical air at Anjuna beach here in Goa, as Goa Gil had an excellent going away party that brought about 2000 - 3000 people together at Pariaso Open air club at Anjuna Beach. Pariaso is an amazing multi-level club, with the upper level under a huge thatched roof pavilian, and below that on the lower terrace was a huge dance area about 150 meters long, and 25 meters wide, and 6 huge speaker systems... the full moon party got off about midnight, as Goa gil started some excellent new Goa trance tracks. The vibe is truly International... people from the Sudan, Kenya, Isreal, Egypt, All over Europe, were there. I was one of only 2 americans at the party. And it didn't take them long to notice my energy... as I was dancing almost continously from Midnight all though the night, and well into the next day, all the way up until 8 pm the next evening. ONLY one DJ - Goa Gil took the party into a most wonderful trance state.... there is so much freedom here in India, and the police were paid off to allow this very special party to take place. All the money the party made, had to go to pay off the police to allow it to take place, so the price of water was jacked up to 50 rupees (about $1.45) for a big bottle... not that bad, when you consider the party was free. ALL parties in goa are free, but the clubs make ALL of their money on the sales of drinks... you CANNOT and should NEVER EVER drink the tap water in India, unless you want to have a severe case of the "runs" and shit your brains out for weeks to come.... drinking tap water here is like poison, unless you are Indian.... and even then, it has to be well filtered. The heat was a problem. Goa is TROPICAL, like REALLY tropical... it's very close to the equator, but is very dry and not as humid as Florida, but much more humid the Calif.... In mornings it is the worst, because of no sea breeze, but the warm Arabian Sea offers little relief from the heat, as the water temp is about 86 degrees. Even in the wee hours, the temp is in Mid 80's and gets to about 95 in the day. It NEVER rains this time of year in Goa, and not until June, when the monsoons come, and then you don't want to me here.... Mud, Malaria, mosquitos, and other nasty tropical diseases can be picked up if you are not careful. Although I'm not staying at the beaches where the parties are, I'm actually staying in Alto Porvorim, a small Portuguese village halfway between Mapsa, and Panjim, the capitol city of Goa, at a resort called the Angels Resort. I have to travel about 2 hours by bus to get to a place where I can get access to the internet, because it is not possible to get on the internet unless you are in the same exchange as the PPP modem lines are located. The Inter-exchange crosstalk on the phone lines make it all but impossible to establish a reliable connection, and the Modems in India are "Hardened" to be immune to the "billing" pulses that come down the line every 5 mins. It costs 3 rupees per 5 minutes for local calls, so staying on-line, even of your modem can ignore this nasty pulse, is quite costly. There are about 100 Cyber Stations here in India. They are called STD Posts, where people can use the phone to make international phone calls (At great expense), STD calls (long distance) and local calls. On there, they have a computer you can use to check your "hotmail" account at anywhere from 110 - 150 rupees per hour. There are 42 rupees per dollar... Most Goa residents use the Cyber cafes, as about 20% of all restaurants offer public Internet access. But the infrastructure cannot support that many, so people are very frustrated to pay and not be able to connect. Some will offer refunds of they are unable to find an access line to get on. Anjune beach and Baga beach are where the parties are, and there are so many of them, and they are easy to find, just go to the Primrose or 9-bar club in Vagator beach and there you will find postings for all the parties that take place that evening. Almost every evening, there is a party taking place somewhere in Goa. 9-bar has the daily Sunset parties but close down at 9 pm, then everyone heads for their favorite restaurant to eat, then wind up at many of the evening parties that take place. Food here is excellent, a bit too spicy for me, but WOW! it is so inexpensive its insane... Again, I mention, there are very few Americans here, mostly europeans, and people from Africa and the Middle east like Egypt and Isreal. It is a truly international scene. Getting around requires renting a scooter or getting a scooter pilot to take you around. People drive on LEFT side of the road here (British influence in India)... Sports here are Cricket and Football (soccer). In fact, later in April is the World Cup of Cricket and India is top contender. Best time to visit Goa is in November through about Mid April... You want to avoid traveling here during Monsoon season. Few tourists here, and fewer parties.... although the temperature is constant all year around, the hottest season is in April and May. It is nicest around Nov through March. >From November until June, there it NO RAIN at all here. Anyway, this is the latest info From Goa for now, more reports to come forth later as I get more time.... Am so busy with work here, it's totally insane.... Take care all Crunchman in Goa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 05:32:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7368 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 05:32:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 7357 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 05:32:27 -0000 Received: from law-f150.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.213) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 05:32:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 64171 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 05:32:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406053200.64170.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.214.8 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:32:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.214.8] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Sly & Robbie Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:32:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Saw a Sly & Robbie "Do Drum and Bass" album at Ameoba Saturday - any reviews? Thanks, K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 05:55:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14213 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 05:55:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 14199 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 05:55:34 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 05:55:34 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vEIWa15163 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:17:09 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:17:09 EDT Subject: paging mr.MODA..sorry for SPAM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey mr.....i'm in the area now... here's my # to call me k (925)443-2180 :).... i'll see you sometime this week! ~Sami :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 06:02:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16133 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 06:02:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 16120 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 06:02:02 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 06:02:02 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.121) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:05:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3709A367.2FC32B46@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:02:15 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <199904060045.RAA29635@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <3708E902.7ABEB6E5@ix.netcom.com> <9904052159.ZM25559@well.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk uhh, who cares? paul Fred Heutte wrote: > OK, Vlad, it's truth telling time. > > Did you or did you not collect names from sfraves to build up your own > mailing list? > > And remember, Vlad, when you answer this question: > > Keep it real. > > phred From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 06:04:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17712 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 06:04:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 17704 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 06:04:18 -0000 Received: from mail-gw6.pacbell.net (206.13.28.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 06:04:18 -0000 Received: from fiveartists.com (ppp-206-170-29-90.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.29.90]) by mail-gw6.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id XAA24755 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:04:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3709A315.D3F6DDE8@fiveartists.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 23:00:53 -0700 From: Nemo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: ...question about IRC? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey all... if anyone haz questions about IRC an' whautnot, just EM me, i've been using it for about 2 years now and i like to consider myself fairly familiar w/ it. sorry, i like being of help, it makes me feel important... ^_- btw, what server is #sfraves on? ANton the glitter Panda From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 06:15:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22062 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 06:15:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 22053 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 06:15:54 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 06:15:54 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vJVSa22363 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:15:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <296fd214.243b0076@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:15:18 EDT Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is getting a BSP about an up coming event really THAT BIG A FUCKING DEAL? This has got to be the stupidest thread Ive had the unpleasure of being exposed to. GROW THE FUCK UP! If you get spammed so what. And if Vlad doesn't take you off his email list, so what. Is all this really nescessary? I dont think so. Your posts are well thought out, you show some signs of intelligence. How about some common sense? Im sick of all this childish bull shit on the list. LISTEN UP EVERYONE. IMHO, this is just plain ridiculous, as have been some of the other threads on the list. If you don't have anything Rave Related, NRR, BSP, or something fun and enlightening to say, save it for someone who cares. Many good people have left the list because of ignorance such as this, and Im on my way out too. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 06:18:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24061 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 06:18:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 24043 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 06:18:55 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 06:18:55 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA06922; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:17:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca47-37.ix.netcom.com(209.110.235.165) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006900; Tue Apr 6 01:17:10 1999 Message-ID: <3708FD41.4E5B248E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:13:22 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainmnet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fred Heutte CC: Ki , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <199904060045.RAA29635@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <3708E902.7ABEB6E5@ix.netcom.com> <9904052159.ZM25559@well.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Fred Heutte wrote: > OK, Vlad, it's truth telling time. > > Did you or did you not collect names from sfraves to build up your own > mailing list? Fred, I never said that I didn't. I added a few names of some people that said they were leaving the list to my address book so I could keep them informed, since they would not receive the BSP's off the list. This was about a year ago, and accounts for only 20-30 addresses. I should have asked them if they wanted to be kept informed of future parties, but at that time I didn't think there was any harm in sending ravers information about raves, especially if they were once on a rave list serve. And they seamed like such positive people, that I didn't think they would ever have beef with it. So by definition, does that make me a spammer, because Im sending people unsolicited e-mails? They haven't complained, and if they did, I removed them. If I knew which e-mail addresses were theirs, I would e-mail them now, and ask if they wanted to be kept informed. But that was it. The rest of the 2000+ I have collected through our web sites, and those people that e-mail me privately. And just in case any of you are wondering... I have sent this list out only about 4 times... That's it. It's a big job, because I can only send them out in batches of 50, and each e-mail has to be sent one at a time, It takes a full day to do. All people have to do is ask to be removed and I always do that. And If i knew which address it was that is Ki's I would remove it also, but he still has not told me. Because like I said... There is NO Ki@cloudfactory.org in my address book. Iv checked several times. By the way, If you know of any software that I can use to send more than 50 messages at a time, or can better manage my e-mail addresses with, I would love to know. Thanks and keep mit mellow, Vlad > And remember, Vlad, when you answer this question: > > Keep it real. > > phred From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 06:20:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25386 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 06:20:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 25373 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 06:20:46 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 06:20:46 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vJRDa17550 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:19:22 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <76c8018b.243b016a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:19:22 EDT Subject: Fwd: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_76c8018b.243b016a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_76c8018b.243b016a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_76c8018b.243b016a_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: BigM009@aol.com From: BigM009@aol.com Full-name: Big M 009 Message-ID: <76c8018b.243b0141@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:18:41 EDT Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: steve@warmth.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Kinda like you responding steve? Aaaaaaaahahahahah, Peace M --part1_76c8018b.243b016a_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 06:21:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25950 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 06:20:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 25793 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 06:20:56 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 06:20:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (smilez@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13753; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:20:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smilez@elephant.zo.com) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:20:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Christina Pensinger To: Gammbino@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Re=3A_QuEstion=A7_0n_Harmony_Springtime_FLower_?= =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Fest?= In-Reply-To: <5a823c39.24394721@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk harmony always has a good vibe.... i will be right in front during li's set On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Hey Everyone!!! =3D) I heard that "The Gathering" was hella phat ass! > IAll though I couldn't go I had a sorta good time at home with my black l= ight=20 > and music...how lame huh Anyways I wanted to know if any of you out there= are=20 > going to Harmony's "The Sprintime Flower FEstival" ?=BF because before I= get=20 > my ticket I wanted to know if you all think this will be phat enough to f= eel=20 > the good vibes. >=20 > Well let me know thanks. Oh ya and if you have more info on it like wher= e=20 > its gonna be that'd be great too!! >=20 > Bye =20 > PLUR > K=EA=F1T >=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 06:52:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6321 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 06:52:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6246 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 06:52:03 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 06:52:03 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vATKa21678 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:50:56 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:50:56 EDT Subject: just a small point id like to make To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey kidz ive been off the list for quite a while for some personal reasons and now im back =P i need some time to catch up to the threads but for now im just gonna say one thing: go see the Matrix ! ! ! a must-see movie with awesome special effects and its on the right track talkin about the whole "power of the mind" thing =) PeAcE OuT alEx =.) ps: umm why does everyone seem to dislike Keanu? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 06:52:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7346 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 06:52:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 7336 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 06:52:30 -0000 Received: from smtp.well.com (206.80.6.147) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 06:52:30 -0000 Received: from well.com (nobody@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA27873; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from phred@localhost) by well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17323; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Fred Heutte" Message-Id: <9904052352.ZM17321@well.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:52:22 -0700 In-Reply-To: Ray Vonie "Re: nrr...if you've received spam from..." (Apr 5, 11:13am) References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <199904060045.RAA29635@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <3708E902.7ABEB6E5@ix.netcom.com> <9904052159.ZM25559@well.com> <3708FD41.4E5B248E@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: Ray Vonie Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... Cc: Ki , sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, that was actually a "for real" reply, Vlad, thank you. I also received the HappyRaver mail, but that's because it was sent to the entire sfraves list. I have a copy if anyone needs to see it. It's possible that Ki also received it and didn't notice that it came from sfraves rather than directly from Vlad's mailing list. But everyone deserves some slack for overlooking things, we all do it, and I would grant Vlad the same slack as Ki in that regard. I've made my share of fuckups from not noticing things. Ki brought the matter to Vlad's attention privately. I am in no position to characterize what happened in their private email. It's not any of my damn business. But it should have stayed private. Instead, it was brought to the list. Posting private email without permission from the sender isn't a matter of overlooking something; it's wrong. No slack granted. It's hardly a new issue for this list, particularly. What made it worse was the wild accusations, name-calling and general fulmination that followed from Vlad. He accused Ki of narcing on FGF and trashed Cloud Factory to boot. And I'm not even getting into the name-calling. The bullying and belligerence didn't stop there, Vlad -- you added a bunch of provocative nonsense about "handling this man to man" and how next time you wouldn't be so generous (I'm not quoting precisely but that's the gist of it). I think you owe Ki and the entire list an apology, and I think Ki is ready to accept it. We don't need to re-enact the craziness of CNN Headline News here on sfraves, with greater and greater outbreaks of accusations, finger-pointing and namecalling. I'm going well beyond this particular incident in saying that. Things have gotten trashy enough here that I am even considering unsubbing, which is like cutting off my connection to the one key thing that got me and kept me in the underground music scene. It's time for everyone to choose: front or represent. The choice is *ours*. peace out phred From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 06:56:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8985 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 06:56:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 8976 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 06:56:19 -0000 Received: from smtp.well.com (206.80.6.147) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 06:56:19 -0000 Received: from well.com (nobody@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA28428; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from phred@localhost) by well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA21972; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Fred Heutte" Message-Id: <9904052356.ZM21969@well.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:56:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Fred Heutte" "Re: nrr...if you've received spam from..." (Apr 5, 11:52pm) References: <19990402214828.23778.qmail@hyperreal.org> <199904050502.WAA05613@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <199904060045.RAA29635@sugarbeet.salinas.net> <3708E902.7ABEB6E5@ix.netcom.com> <9904052159.ZM25559@well.com> <3708FD41.4E5B248E@ix.netcom.com> <9904052352.ZM17321@well.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: Ray Vonie Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... Cc: Ki , sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Before I step back into lurker mode, let me add one thing. When I thanked Vlad for a "for real" reply, I meant it. He stated the facts involving his list, and didn't overreact or lash out. I appreciate that; it shows that he is trying to manage things with some integrity. phred From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 07:05:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11750 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 07:05:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 11737 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 07:05:49 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 07:05:49 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vJTHa18303 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 03:04:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <22f4f19e.243b0bf8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 03:04:24 EDT Subject: NRR:ACTORS was Re: just a small point id like to make To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk umm why does everyone seem to dislike Keanu? >> Keanu Reeves is one of my all time favorite actors; along with, Leonardo DiCaprio, Kurt Russel, Scott Wolfe, Tom Cruise, & I know they're others out there, I just can't think of them, Oh, and that new actor of "She's all That." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 07:52:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26372 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 07:52:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 26344 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 07:52:02 -0000 Received: from smtp.well.com (206.80.6.147) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 07:52:02 -0000 Received: from well.com (nobody@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA06453 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from phred@localhost) by well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA00288 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Heutte Message-Id: <199904060751.AAA00288@well.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: my turn to apologize Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's my turn to apologize -- I thought that Vlad had quoted private email from Ki and I can't find that in reviewing this whole matter. I think I got lost in the thicket of >>>s along the way. Posting private email without permission is a serious matter, and so therefore is making a mistake if you accuse someone of that. So I apologize for that, Vlad. phred From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 07:56:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27938 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 07:55:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 27926 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 07:55:53 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 07:55:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25741 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:56:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Review: Gathering Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FUN FUN FUN!!! I was the guy with the jason hockey mask thingie with a big smile cut into the mouth, and the neon fuzzy balls glued around the top... I know some of you had to have seen me as i got about a million smile and head knods and thumbs up on it... I didnt know I was going until last minute so I didnt know where the meeting spot was, so I didnt make it :(.... Looking at the crowd while i was in line, I didnt think this was gonna be a very good party.. But to my suprise, the vibe was great... I met sooo many cool kids, most of whom I had to explain how I could have such a great time while completely sober, so hopefully i did a little educating... Not there isnt tremendous value in the whole ERave experience, and I have been guilty more often than not lately... SOme kids havent experienced both sides, and that is sad.. I like 85th and Baldwin a LOT... That is just a good location.. At least I have had all good experiences there, and it is never too hot or overpacked.. They had FREE WATER back in the corner... Havent seen that at a big party in a long time... much props for that... anyway.. I love this scene.. SMILE!! Gregery From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 09:27:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 572 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 09:27:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 556 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 09:27:19 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 09:27:19 -0000 Received: from neserees.hip.berkeley.edu (neserees.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.40.23]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA17951 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904060927.CAA17951@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: TicKle 3 Subject: tiCKLe 3 (the Big One)! (bsp) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *********************************************************** hey all you sfravers... It's what all those 'moon' parties were for... ahh yes we're talking about the Big One... *** TiCKle 3 *** this SatuRday, ApRil 10th 9 p.m til 6 a.m hope your dancin' batteries are charged! We've got a line-up that just can't be beat. No, really, it kicks ass. djs 4 the evening: thoMas trouBle deMigod dj buDDy tom sLik greg sandLer eriK broWn eric spiRe mystRe maRs mosHe dj d joaQman dj praXis do ya like TECHNO? do ya like HOUSE? do ya like HARDCORE? do ya like TRANCE??? ... do ya like to party? if you've answered 'yes' to any of the above, then you know where to be on april 10th! get your presales now cuz we're limiting the party to only 1800 people... 1200 presale tix and 600 extra spots at the door. we want to make sure everyone's got room to dance to the funky beats. get there early and receive a wonderful play-toy... a free glostick! (first 500 people only!) $20 presale $25 @ the door tix available @: t&j factory, f-8, solid grooves & harmonics info line = 415.248.2669 sincerely yours, the trance & jungle factory ********************************************************* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 10:02:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9982 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 10:02:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 9971 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 10:01:59 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 10:01:59 -0000 Received: from 209.157.114.24 (dynamic24.pm13.san-jose.best.com [209.157.114.24]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id DAA25107 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 03:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3709DB4A.DDC0D9BD@resourcerecords.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 03:00:42 -0700 From: Chris Jackson Reply-To: chris@resourcerecords.com Organization: Resource Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: Free techno mix tape!! X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Free for the 1st 15 people that respond!! Personally reply. Time will tell..... Chris Jackson " Artificial Intelligence " Servin' up chunky techno & razor sharp electro... Courtesy of Resource Records & Jump Recordings SJ Also NEW out on Resource: 12" RESO-006 • Various Artists • Silicon Sampler V.1.4 Part one of the Bay Area roll call... With tracks by Mattski, EBE, Chris Jackson & The Rhythmist Visit us.. www.resourcerecords.com construction over 4/15 Oh, by the way, HELLO...I'm new to the list! If anyone has any questions regarding anything at all, please feel free to slip me a message!! >Chris< PS..I plan on giving away promo tapes, 12"s, and CD's on somewhat of a regular basis! Bringin' it to the peeps...... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 10:06:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11923 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 10:06:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 11911 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 10:06:25 -0000 Received: from ultimanet.com (HELO sugarbeet.salinas.net) (root@205.179.129.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 10:06:25 -0000 Received: from [209.209.8.41] (04-185.006.popsite.net [209.209.3.185]) by sugarbeet.salinas.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA09898; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 03:11:07 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <296fd214.243b0076@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:06:39 -0700 To: BigM009@aol.com From: terry estioko Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Is getting a BSP about an up coming event really THAT BIG A FUCKING DEAL? Actually, in the context of this particular situation it could be very much a big deal. Vlad is a businessman and therefore must adhere to business ethics. SPAM is a very real, annoying, and questionable business practice. In many industries, using SPAM for profit is a serious offense, and its use is closely monitored by working professionals in the industry. The type of SPAM that occured here is a bit in the gray area, since Vlad is not purchasing email lists or using a negative checkoff system. Nonetheless, yes...I think this may be A BIG FUCKING DEAL. >This has got to be the stupidest thread Ive had the unpleasure of being >exposed to. GROW THE FUCK UP! If you get spammed so what. Vlad and Ki are grown up, I think the reason why you are not sensitive to this issue is because you are not a working professional in the internet or related industry. Knowing both parties involved, I have a pretty good idea of the possible circumstances behind this. This has nothing to do with malice, vindication, or the battle between organizations (both the Cloud Factory and FGE come from totally different worlds). What I believe this to be is a *working professional in the internet industry* having a serious complaint against a *businessman with admittedly poor internet marketing management*. Plain and simple. And if Vlad >doesn't take you off his email list, so what. Is all this really nescessary? > I dont think so. As stated earlier on the list, reporting SPAMERS is a common practice, and it is against the acceptable use policies of most Internet Service Providers. So yes, this may very well be necessary. Your posts are well thought out, you show some signs of >intelligence. How about some common sense? Im sick of all this childish >bull shit on the list. I agree with you on this one. This thread has certainly brought up a lot of childish remarks. And at what expense? From this questionable business incident now we have *personal threats* and the trashing of *the cloudfactory*? I too, like Phred think that Vlad owes Ki and us a BIG apology. LISTEN UP EVERYONE. IMHO, this is just plain >ridiculous, as have been some of the other threads on the list. If you don't >have anything Rave Related, NRR, BSP, or something fun and enlightening to >say, save it for someone who cares. Well, on a side note. this may not be as non rave related as you may believe. As the scene is now quickly moving into the business sector it better get well versed on business ethics. Otherwise it won't take much to take the scene down, and you'll be left at some cheesy underage nightclub. Don't think for a second that there are a lot of *other* people out there (and on this list) that are looking for any evidence to shut us down. Many good people have left the list >because of ignorance such as this, and Im on my way out too. > >Peace, M I for one, am not leaving this list, no matter what. I have been given too much to abandon the source of my drive, passion, and belief that that this crazy scene can make a postive difference in many more people's life. Like I said before, what we have is very fragile, we need to treat it with the utmost care and respect. -terry *viberation* ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 10:18:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14408 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 10:18:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 14399 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 10:18:21 -0000 Received: from mail-gw5.pacbell.net (206.13.28.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 10:18:21 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-2-37.sntc01.pacbell.net [206.170.2.37]) by mail-gw5.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id DAA29144; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 03:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3709E003.68C2A32F@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 03:20:52 -0700 From: cordero X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Wiewiorowski , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: escape from sf . . to a pub? References: <199904051757.KAA05572@waxwing> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thass exacly what happened. Victor apparently knew something I did not ahead of time. Something tells me I was a little out of place when I was the only one who busted out with my orange glow sticks. Good thing Victor had some serious skills to fly with for a while. As much as I would love to harp on the scene, I was with some very chill friends who did not let the people get to them, and it made everything perfect. (The only complaint I have all night was the light from the vending machine was making it just a little tooo bright white light inside) Sure got my money's worth though. I do not think I have seen this many drunk irishmen since st paties day last year. That and the O so exciting orgy fest on every availible bench. What a riot. And who could not appreciate Alex who wanted to solve everthing. And Sandy who wanted to talk to everyone on the boat. Somebody upstairs was looking out for me though. When the party was about to end I did not have my keys in my pocket. I just about dropped a load when I found them in the corner where I threw my sweater earlier. O yeah, life just got a whole lot better. Many thanks to Victor, Sandy, Alex and my favorite lady to go out with Michelle, without which none of would have been possible. And of course Steelhead brewery, as much as Victor poked fun at the yuppiness of it all, they had some gooood beer. listen to Deux Arabesques and you will know exaclty what I am talking about. Do stopun tosamane, staimbort chlubun, heuwun harmlicco huitte scilti, until im iro lintun luttilo wurtun, giwigan miti wabnum . . . . Yes, wine is still the key to turning obligation into pleasure. Have a wonderful spring. Jonathan C From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 10:37:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17386 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 10:37:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 17378 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 10:37:18 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?oYEXgCChW0UuwGKWUdvPmCctIFISvSLc?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 10:37:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via ESMTP id DAA15124; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 03:37:17 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 03:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Chris Jackson cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP: Free techno mix tape!! In-Reply-To: <3709DB4A.DDC0D9BD@resourcerecords.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU id DAA15124 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yo, dude, I am a huge Detroit geek, I need electro bizzness, I have NO tapes and NO CD's. ez, max On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Chris Jackson wrote: > Free for the 1st 15 people that respond!! Personally reply. Time will= tell..... >=20 > Chris Jackson " Artificial Intelligence " >=20 > Servin' up chunky techno & razor sharp electro... > Courtesy of Resource Records & Jump Recordings SJ >=20 > Also NEW out on Resource: >=20 > 12" RESO-006 =95 Various Artists =95 Silicon Sampler V.1.4 >=20 > Part one of the Bay Area roll call... > With tracks by Mattski, EBE, Chris Jackson & The Rhythmist >=20 > Visit us.. www.resourcerecords.com construction over 4/15 >=20 >=20 > Oh, by the way, HELLO...I'm new to the list! If anyone has any questio= ns > regarding anything at all, please feel free to slip me a message!! > >Chris< >=20 > PS..I plan on giving away promo tapes, 12"s, and CD's on somewhat of a = regular > basis! Bringin' it to the peeps...... >=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 10:49:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19637 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 10:49:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 19629 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 10:49:13 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?iuJcXBOyWkk0MbqeRdPllzB++UQk317F?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 10:49:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id DAA16246; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 03:49:12 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 03:49:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Chris Jackson cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP: Free techno mix tape!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Woops. I am sure you call cared that I want a tape. Well, do you care that the clip for my mic is the most wicked roach clip ever created? Or that Miller High Life is the most perfect night time rainy day whenevertime brew yet created? "If you don't know, get to know." 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 12:09:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6047 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 12:08:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 6035 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 12:08:54 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 12:08:54 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.160] (kenya-160.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.160]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA01993; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 05:08:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 05:26:49 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Tue) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This one's kind of cool... The word „listen¾ contains the same letters as the word „silent.¾ Alfred Brendel Do you guys know how to listen? You might be surprised... ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 15:21:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16488 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 15:21:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 16463 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 15:21:15 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 15:21:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406152445.23454.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.173.42.100] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 08:24:45 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:24:45 -0700 (PDT) From: grl kriss Subject: hotmail sucks!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello everyone, hotmail has been holding all my email hostage! so if you've sent me anything since friday, i can't access it b/c hotmail sucks. so, like several others of you, i have ditched hotmail for a yahoo account. i hope this one's better... have a great day everyone! with love, kriss =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 15:44:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27209 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 15:43:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27201 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 15:43:58 -0000 Received: from f208.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.99) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 15:43:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 55366 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 15:43:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406154323.55365.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 08:43:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: chris@resourcerecords.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP: Free techno mix tape!! Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 08:43:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This tape is good!!! Very clean mixing you may remember Chris from such parties as.. Wally World,whoopi ball(I think?)getdown,getdown,getsdown and a whole host of others. Yea this Kid has been working this scene for many years. As a matter of fact he was the first DJ that I saw when I went to my first "Rave" and I asked his Partner who is that guy he is dope. At the time chris went by the name Darwin. Anywayz enough of memory lane.. This tape is filled with smooth hard at times,electro at times tekno. With complete track listing and kewl case dezign. It is a bit dance floor unfriendly at points so beware. But for a true Tekno-Slut as myself it was right up my alley. O did I mention that he runs a record label as well that is getting good reviews in the mags?? Not to mention he is from the southbay Give it up to the boys from SB.. see ya, Macadio (Tekno-Guide) >From: Chris Jackson >Reply-To: chris@resourcerecords.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: BSP: Free techno mix tape!! >Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 03:00:42 -0700 > >Free for the 1st 15 people that respond!! Personally reply. Time will tell..... > >Chris Jackson " Artificial Intelligence " > >Servin' up chunky techno & razor sharp electro... >Courtesy of Resource Records & Jump Recordings SJ > >Also NEW out on Resource: > >12" RESO-006 • Various Artists • Silicon Sampler V.1.4 > >Part one of the Bay Area roll call... >With tracks by Mattski, EBE, Chris Jackson & The Rhythmist > >Visit us.. www.resourcerecords.com construction over 4/15 > > >Oh, by the way, HELLO...I'm new to the list! If anyone has any questions >regarding anything at all, please feel free to slip me a message!! >>Chris< > >PS..I plan on giving away promo tapes, 12"s, and CD's on somewhat of a regular >basis! Bringin' it to the peeps...... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 15:49:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29588 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 15:49:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29574 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 15:49:00 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 15:49:00 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id LAA23221; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id LAA27850; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:42:12 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Ki cc: Ray Vonie , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... In-Reply-To: <199904060045.RAA29635@sugarbeet.salinas.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this is going to go on and on and on because each one of you (ki and vlad) want to have the last word. it's getting old, i'm tired of having to use my delete button so much on this list, so PLEASE take this private right now. both of you are losing face in my mind so it doesn't matter if it all ends now or not. it's childish game you are both playing. amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 15:56:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4141 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 15:56:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 4126 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 15:56:31 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 15:56:31 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vXKHa15175 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:52:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <7cacf43f.243b87b8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:52:24 EDT Subject: Who's Going To Tickle 3 this Saturday?????? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 16:12:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11580 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 16:12:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 11568 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 16:12:44 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 16:12:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406161557.5061.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:15:57 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:15:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: ~L.A. Jungle Party~ To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: feircefigs@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, If anyone is still interested in raves, and electronic music, and hearing party reviews on this list then this is the post for you... I went to a really good jungle party this weekend while visting LA, it was in San Bernadino actually. It was at a sports arena. First off, it wasnt a UG, there was probably around 1000 peeps there. The parking lot was very very safe (I know cuz i went to the car when I was tired and the security came to the car to make sure i wasnt breakin in.) We paid at the door ($15) and walked in. The first thing I noticed was a FULL snack bar, I thought that was really cool, even big parties at second and Jackson never sell real food. I know its hard to imagine eating all kinds of food, when your high on e, or trippin, but fools like me who usually just smoke all night,have the munchies, and I like a little Kit Kat here and there :) not that the free fruit at some parties here doeesnt work. I also noticed right away is that they sell candy jewwlry, it seems like not that many really make there own, they buy, and give to eachother. $6 necklaces, and $3 bracelets. They say things like "i love e" or "trip acid" Pretty crazy. Ok, when i first heard the music, I knew it was gonna go off! I have never heard a better sound system with jungle pouring out of it! It was amazing, my mind was shakin, i was loving it! Sage Sage Sage Sage, that girl rules~I cant explain how happy it made me when I heard jamalski go off about Sage, and her being from san fransisco, I was representin... They had an outside area with hip hop, and it really, really complimented the jungle inside. I guess parties attract all the nice people in LA becuase I didnt run into ONE single person that was rude, they were all pretty cool. Younger crowd, and it was an all jungle party, people were dancin like mad junglists, thats what I love to see :) The decorations were awesome! They had tons of room, there were bleachers on both sides, plenty of room to chill. The dj booth was above the WALL of speakers, I liked that. Oh well, thats enough now...I am still tryin to find more of a UG community down there, does anyone know if it exists? I am *hoping* if there is a UG scene there wouldnt be flyers at the jnco store on melrose, I am really interested in it, so... Love, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 16:15:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13651 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 16:15:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13637 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 16:15:36 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 16:15:36 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vJUHa27420 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <506eb6e.243b8cec@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:14:36 EDT Subject: Re: tiCKLe 3 (the Big One)! (bsp) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 2 questions 1.) any idea where its gonna be at? ^_~ 2.) who's spinning hadrcore??? *pant pant pant* *DROOOL* -aaron if someone has a schedule itd be mucho appreciated too From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 16:18:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15281 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 16:18:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 15273 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 16:18:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 16:18:15 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 82; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:16:05 -0700 Message-ID: <370A36CF.81EC2023@hrg.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:31:11 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: K Gray CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: spiritual experiences @parties... References: <19990406045328.41341.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow...lets see here.... alot of my spiritual experiences didnt necessarily happen at a rave, but after. I remember one party I went to in Santa Monica, dont remember the name, but Dutch and Carlos were spinning (I loved Dutches stuff back then, really good deep house), anyways, on the drive back to San Diego in the morning, we were watching the sun come up over the ocean and it was just gorgeous. So we decided to pull out our longboards and go surfing. We wound up paddeling out at Blacks and just sitting out past the sets...lying on our boards in the 70+ degree water, soakin up the sun, staring out at the cliffs. Just awesome. Another would have to be the morning of a small outdoor party Dolphin and Friends threw up in Guernville around thanksgiving of 96. Sean Murray was spinning around 7 or 8 am, and me and my friends were just totally at peace, taking in the beauty of nature around us. (the space was up on top of this mountain you had to hike up for almost an hour, very epic) Another would be sunrise at Freedom 96, we were sitting on the hill and this giant purple streak appeared across the sky with the sun coming up over the horizon. Just totally epic. Later on we found out it was the space shuttle. If you cant tell I love outdoors. To me theres no warehouse that can compare with mother nature. John R From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 16:29:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20508 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 16:29:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20492 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 16:29:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web215.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.68.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 16:29:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406163122.8862.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.20.206] by web215.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:31:22 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:31:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Re: tiCKLe 3 (the Big One)! (bsp) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why do kids ALWAYS ask where its gonna be at? Are you a cop? How long have you been a raver? I think they have an info line, and if they do, it will say the night of the party. Have we gone over this before? Seriously, the only people who should know are the promoters and crew, thats it, no offense dude. Steve =) --- OoNOTlKo0@aol.com wrote: > 2 questions > 1.) any idea where its gonna be at? ^_~ > 2.) who's spinning hadrcore??? *pant pant pant* > *DROOOL* > > -aaron > > if someone has a schedule itd be mucho appreciated > too > === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 16:49:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27912 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 16:49:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 27231 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 16:49:04 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 16:49:04 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-111.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.111]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA16672; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990406152135.0069edbc@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:21:35 -0500 To: steve@warmth.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: tiCKLe 3 (the Big One)! (bsp) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And i should Know cuz i'm special dammit! I am somebody! I am very very very very special grl with a guys name! and like other stuff too Very very special Nuku with a guys name At 09:31 AM 4/6/99 -0700, you wrote: >Why do kids ALWAYS ask where its gonna be at? Are you >a cop? How long have you been a raver? > >I think they have an info line, and if they do, it >will say the night of the party. Have we gone over >this before? Seriously, the only people who should >know are the promoters and crew, thats it, no offense >dude. > >Steve =) > >--- OoNOTlKo0@aol.com wrote: >> 2 questions >> 1.) any idea where its gonna be at? ^_~ >> 2.) who's spinning hadrcore??? *pant pant pant* >> *DROOOL* >> >> -aaron >> >> if someone has a schedule itd be mucho appreciated >> too >> > >=== >"Stupid people just puzzle me." > Vitaly Golomb > >"What we have here is failure to communicate." > The warden in Cool Hand Luke > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 17:06:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7627 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 17:06:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 7478 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 17:06:24 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 17:06:24 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id KAA29633; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990406170549.0099f140@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:05:49 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Isaac Labugen Subject: Children Of The Sun Thank You's Cc: talk@warmth.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I like to take a moment to thank everybody for there support on Saturday night as we came together to celebrate our One Year Anniversary. I hope everyone had an awesome time and realized what we as a community accomplished. We wanted to give our attendees an intimate vibe never to be forgotten. A big thank you to all the DJ's who showed up on time and rocked for 9+ hours on some bouncy ass decks(not andy's fault, it was ours), and still kept the musical journey flowing. As I reflect on the evening. I cant help to remember all the smiling faces and overall beautiful people having a good time, it's what makes clean up worth it. Don't matter how many orange peelings Me and the crew picked up- your energy and positive responses make it all the more worth while. I'm lost for words, but One last time, THANK YOU very much! We love you all very much, and we'll see you at the next one. "spread the warmth"- isaac:) The Official Thank You list: -Ben , you saved my life- I owe! -Matt, you still owe me(jk)- Thanks for finding the missing pieces to the puzzle -*Kriss*, Simply put- you rock! Your Karma should bring you riches... -Greg, I never met you before- but thanks for the help on the lemonade. -Michael Velasko, You are super Ex P ala Docious. If you know this kid- he deserves much thank you's...(i never seen anyone climb like you, your clinically insane.) -Scott, you saved the Day- your experience and knowledge is supreme. -Viberation, From Mutor to the Visuals- this scene is very fortunate to have the likes of such intelligent fair people who put on a spectacular show -Every Else Who Helped, A Special thank you from the heart. To bad I'm to lame not to remember your name. -Vibe, thank you for making a awesome party spectacular, couldn't of been done without you! To everyone else I forgot- thank you! We love you all...peace, Isaac: July 9th, 1999 - "Sunshine Of Your Love" children of the sun 415.835.3144 sunshine party line 415.979.4049 industry line 408.266.6137 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 17:16:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12189 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 17:16:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 12180 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 17:16:28 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 17:16:28 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id oYZVa23784; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:53:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:53:24 EDT Subject: Re: tiCKLe 3 (the Big One)! (bsp) To: nuku@sfsu.edu, steve@warmth.org CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kitana3737@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/6/99 12:49:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nuku@sfsu.edu writes: << I am very very very very special grl with a guys name! and like other stuff too >> lol!! :) hahaah sorry. u just made my day!! so that makes you special!! :) what other talents do you have dear? :P muchloveandkissez* ~*MiCheLLe*~ ps - i`m special b/c i was named after the beatles song and my future husband`s going to sing that song w/guitar for me whenever i say so! yeah! and i`m special because i finally learned to put my contacts in the first try instead of taking 20 minutes!! yeah!! ANd i`m special because... umm.... i have a cool spoon watch from japan that i haven`t seen anyone else have yet! yeah! :) okay.. just rambling b/c its so pretty today! bye! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 17:41:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 524 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 17:41:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 347 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 17:41:36 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 17:41:35 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vNNEa23779; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:28:35 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <838c8bd4.243b9e43@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:28:35 EDT Subject: Re: tiCKLe 3 (the Big One)! (bsp) To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well if there only letting 1800 people in im guessin its gonna be at 2nd and Crackson... I have very mixed feelings about this place. I had a lot of fun at F-8 a couple weeks ago but Popsikle really sucked I dunno if im goin or not From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 17:47:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2525 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 17:47:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 2517 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 17:47:06 -0000 Received: from f192.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 17:47:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 12836 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 17:46:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406174629.12835.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:46:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.105] From: "JASON BRANCH" To: Megatron45@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: gathering review Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:46:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_6a72c3dd_7eff70e0$a74e342" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_6a72c3dd_7eff70e0$a74e342 Content-type: text/plain Yo, Megatron45@aol.com, I read you wrote: >Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com >yo wouldnt that be so dope to have this guy pop up out of knowwhere at a rave >and do his little duties?? >some megaphone comments he might make would be: >"he has some E. he has some E and he is putting it in his mouth. he's" >"im circling some candy ravers, some candy ravers in big pants" >"she is dancing fast, she is dancing with glowsticks fast to jungle" >"he puts on a record. he is playing the record. he plays the records and >music is comming from the record." >-----hey...it could happen...... > >DJMEGATRON:mechasoul ..."That's becoming seriously funny ~ do you speak or understand a lot of sign language. Even if you are a body language constituent you might understand how LOL funny that is. I'm not really talkin' about Hold-Hoe`me-Gee'z gang symbol, (although I recently met some pretty, fierce, loving, thug-style blocos) I'm talkin' about the way we wave at one-another when we groove together... O.K. five common sign language translations to all of those rave-itis wavings were cited as: 1.) here's some energy, I have energy, have some energy (@135 BPM) 2.) this whole house right here, Jack built it (@120 BPM) 3.) just spinning, not yet spun, yet not spun, spun, not yet (@!!! BPM) 4.) think you could drop your back pocket wagging like that (@132 BPM) 5.) right on right on right on right on right on (@130 BPM) (also noted as rave on rave on rave on) (@*** BPM) > -end ------=_NextPart_000_6a72c3dd_7eff70e0$a74e342 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_52cea90a_7eff70e0$a74e342" ------=_NextPart_001_52cea90a_7eff70e0$a74e342 Content-type: text/html
           


Yo, Megatron45@aol.com, I read you wrote:

>Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com

>yo wouldnt that be so dope to have this guy pop up out of knowwhere at a rave
>and do his little duties??
>some megaphone comments he might make would be:
>"he has some E. he has some E and he is putting it in his mouth. he's"
>"im circling some candy ravers, some candy ravers in big pants"
>"she is dancing fast, she is dancing with glowsticks fast to jungle"
>"he puts on a record. he is playing the record. he plays the records and
>music is comming from the record."
>-----hey...it could happen......
>
>DJMEGATRON:mechasoul
..."That's becoming seriously funny ~ do you speak or understand a lot of sign language. Even if you are a body language constituent you might understand how LOL funny that is. I'm not really talkin' about Hold-Hoe`me-Gee'z gang symbol, (although I recently met some pretty, fierce, loving, thug-style blocos) I'm talkin' about the way we wave at one-another when we groove together...
O.K. five common sign language translations to all of those rave-itis wavings
were cited as:
1.) here's some energy, I have energy, have some energy (@135 BPM)
2.) this whole house right here, Jack built it (@120 BPM)
3.) just spinning, not yet spun, yet not spun, spun, not yet
(@!!! BPM)
4.) think you could drop your back pocket wagging like that
(@132 BPM)
5.) right on right on right on right on right on (@130 BPM)
(also noted as rave on rave on rave on) (@*** BPM)


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6 Apr 1999 17:52:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7227 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 17:52:17 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 17:52:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406175523.26160.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:55:23 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:55:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Nrr: I love this song! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just thought I would say that I love the song waste by Phish because its sweet. ok? Listen to it, its sooo romantic I just wanna faint, the perfect song for me, and the love of my life, whoever that may be, perfect song. lovely, im bored.gotta love phish, geez ya just gotta, who cant? Feelin a little (a lot) cheesy today Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 17:53:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8107 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 17:53:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 8097 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 17:53:30 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 17:53:30 -0000 Received: from Speedex33@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id oMSDa15163; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:37:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Speedex33@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:37:03 EDT Subject: Re: tiCKLe 3 (the Big One)! (bsp) To: Kitana3737@aol.com, nuku@sfsu.edu, steve@warmth.org CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Speedex33@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I'm special cause i have a toilet paper brand named after me, paper towels, a country and an intersection in San Francisco named after me. Yes, there is an intersection of Scott street and Jackson street, and lo and behold, it's at the TOP of a hill!:) Can we throw a rave there sometime!? Yeah right; i wish!:) -Scott Jackson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 18:05:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13835 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 18:05:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 13827 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 18:05:18 -0000 Received: from f257.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.148) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 18:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 9643 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 18:04:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406180451.9642.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:04:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.105] From: "JASON BRANCH" To: thatpisces@yahoo.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Track id, please. (Was Re: Nrr: I love this song!) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:04:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "Hi Phish id he-he-he ? No joke, that band travels fat caravans ~ Rave on!" Love Jaw the Pixieman -end >From: Jess ica >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Nrr: I love this song! >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:55:23 -0700 (PDT) > >Just thought I would say that I love the song waste by Phish because >its sweet. ok? > >Listen to it, its sooo romantic I just wanna faint, the perfect song >for me, and the love of my life, whoever that may be, perfect song. >lovely, im bored.gotta love phish, geez ya just gotta, who cant? > >Feelin a little (a lot) cheesy today > >Jessica > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 18:38:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7805 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 18:38:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 7778 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 18:37:58 -0000 Received: from web704.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.24) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 18:37:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406183945.12115.rocketmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.145] by web704.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:39:45 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: NRR: *sigh*: Alternate quote of the day To: sfr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alternate quote of the day: "A closed mouth catches no flies." -Miguel de Cervantes === don't love until you love yourself don't give unless it's free... Alex the Happy Raver From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 18:58:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21886 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 18:58:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 21859 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 18:58:02 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 18:58:02 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vSKNa27103 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:51:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:51:26 EDT Subject: Tickle 3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IM GOING.... if i see ya.... ill give ya much luv and kissess.. ;) get ur tix ASAP!! Valerie... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 19:02:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24727 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 19:02:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24710 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 19:01:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 19:01:57 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id AAAE196E00D4; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:04:14 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "Dirty" , "SFRaves" , "Jungle List" Subject: The Jedi Biznatch's Pick - Underworld's Beaucoup Fish Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:53:14 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01be805e$b9fd02c0$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Underworld - Beaucoup Fish - Junior Boy's Own (jbo01005432) The album starts off with Cups. A smooth mellow track that builds and builds, with nice synths and keys, an unobtrusive drum track and with a steady tense rolling bassline. then at the crescendo, it gets really trancey, with a lot of synth chords, a stronger beat and a deeper bass. great track, probably one of my favorite on the entire album. i think this track, along with jumbo are going to be the next singles. i'd love to hear this one reworked even more, it's such a classic track, maybe not the first listen, and maybe not the second, but it grows on you the genius of this track. i love it. =) push upstairs, the first official single is a wonderful house-y track, though not with the typical house vocals, karl hyde's voice echoes with urgency bringing this track a certain sense of "push"ed enthusiasm. reminds me a lot of moaner, though not as aggressive. it's aggressive, but not in the same way. moaner was always in your face, and this track seems to fade in and out of your face. kind of dancing in front of you. i love this track too, can't wait to get my hands on this single. though I must say, i do not care for push downstairs at all. reminds me too much of nick cave. and i'm not a big fan of nick cave. push upstairs is something i'd like to hear at a party or a club, it's the kind of track that makes the crowd go wild. jumbo starts off with some tonal notes, and some voices, then this beautiful synth bass and drum line kicks in. his voice is light and groaning, a little relaxed, even dreamy. very melodic and dancey. this could be a very interesting single. this cavalcade of sound that apart, probably wouldn't sound as good as the unison of the notes do in this song. a mellow track with a dancey beat. very ambient in texture but with a beat, very underworld-y, very second toughest in the infants like. king of snake was the first track i heard off of the album, released as promo singles to radio stations and such. starts off with another throw back to second toughest with he guitar warping sounds then the synths kick in and the so far typical urgent bassline that they seem to have adopted. really fast itchy type of bass. nice house-y beat, laced with this itchy rattling sound that reminds me of what a rattlesnake might sound like. the keys kick in to complete the house track. the effects on his voice in entrancing. love how the track goes from left to right and right to left. sets you in a whirl perfect for a club or a party. not sure why this isn't an official single release with such a great song, the mixes are great too. i'd love to be able to get them officially released, rather than just on promo. winjer is a quieter track than the rest, not a really dancey track, but has the potential. he uses a lot of synth effects on his voice which makes it even more of a mellow track, even though it has the typical BF drums and beat. seems really ambient even though there is a beat. not really downtempo, or minimal, but something else. the lyrics are amazing on this one. a lot like dirty epic in the tone, a somber more laid back tone, of remembrance and reflection. same as the next track, skym. though i think i like winjer better for it's depth in musical layers. skym seems really minimal, lacks a beat, but has a song, a bit less ambient and more lounge like. the lyrics are the main presentation in this song. good tune, just not dancey. a song for a rainy day. bruce lee has a simple drum and bass line, a lot like early rap and beatbox. karl hyde's revolving and evolving lyrics on this set it apart from the simple but catchy rhythm. a little edgy in that it's syncopated heavily and has sort of a stutter to it. the slowest, besides the practically beatless skym, on the album. not really my cup of tea, but the potential for remixes is great, throw in a jungle beat and bass, you got yourself a phat jungle track. kittens was the first official mp3 download available from underworld. sure you could scour the net and get the whole album and everything else, but underworld decided to release one track to entice their audience with a taste from the new album. kittens starts off like another song, and i always mistake it for something else. not sure though... this song was made for dancing. it sounds like it even includes a little dj touch to it with the break where no music is playing then sounds like a record is dropped to spin on the turntable. a little like rowla with the beat underneath the synth. no josh wink climbs here, just anticipation of waiting for the track to slam into you again from it's interlude into a dreamy synth sequence. then comes my least favorite. push downstairs. the thing i don't like about it is his voice. it really sounds as if they just played a record at a slower speed than supposed to. maybe it will grow on me but after about 10 listens, it still hasn't caught me. slow, droning, and for me, boring. i just can't bring myself to like this track. something like a mama is a brooding track, somber in vocal tones, nothing with urgency. the music is light a little slower paced bass but the drums deceive you with a stronger beat, intertwined with the slower swing of the rest of the track. they combine with a sort of double beat, the quickness of the percussion and bass, with the somber tone of the layered synths. the vocal sampling is reminiscent of a couple of the track off of second toughest, pearl's girl and oich oich. though not as experimental and awkward as i felt about the last those two. they've become more adept at cutting and splicing the samples to sound less abrasive. moaner was a track they submitted to the batman forever soundtrack. a very aggressive track, heavy on the bass, heavy on the beat, and very trancey. great synth warping and folding between the speakers. his voice builds urgency, builds ferocity and pretty soon he's yelling and the music builds with him just building and building. more aggressive than any other underworld track i've heard. it took me by surprise at first, it was something i never heard them do. it's grown on me and it's a gret track, not the typical underworld but fits so well as the last track to this beautiful and varied album. all in all a very diversified album with so many high points. underworld is definately one of the best electronic dance outfits. they've moved from 80's synth pop and made the transition to electronic dance music perfectly. dubnobasswithmyheadman, second toughest in the infants and now, beaucoup fish. all of which i recommend highly. all very different and yet all still underworld. Your Jedi Bitch, Jedi666Boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 19:03:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25754 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 19:03:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 25549 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 19:03:10 -0000 Received: from law-f53.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.116) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 19:03:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 13241 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 19:04:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406190410.13240.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.196.204.85 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:04:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.196.204.85] From: "michael waldren" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sacraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Where are you.??? Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:04:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for some one that i partied with from Concorde. His name is Chris and he is Bald. He is a junglist, and has been to every party in the city that i have been to. Gigabeatz, Quest , Dubphonik, and i know that he is out there.I was just wondering if he is going to Audio Impact and The Formula.If you have any info for me, let me know. Thanx my address is chocolate976@hotmail.com Love " your everyday junglist" Mikey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 19:36:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12455 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 19:36:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12445 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 19:36:36 -0000 Received: from web701.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 19:36:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406193456.26544.rocketmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.145] by web701.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:34:56 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:34:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: Mini-Reviews: Easter Weekend To: sfr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ugh. Sunday partying is bad bad bad... especially when the party is good to the last drop... 1. Friday: The Matrix Three words: Wow. Wow again. I haven't liked a fluffy special FX movie this much since "The Fifth Element". Reminded me some of the darker Alan Moore/Frank Miller comix/graphic novels I've been lucky enough to read: Watchmen, Sandman, Elektra: Assassin, etc. 2. Saturday: BBQ, Gathering Mook, Acid Kitty, Slim, & gEoff: You guys rule. When I'm rich and famous, I'll fly you guys down to spin for my barbecues. SFRavers: be on the lookout for these four up-and-coming DJ's. Stickman, Deepbeep, Prophet, and the rest: Your hospitality is heartwarming. When I'm rich and famous, I'll fly you guys down to organize my birthday parties. And my barbecues. And I'll phone Mother Nature in advance with a "no hail" request. The Gathering was, well, *MassivE*, but the setting was oh so nice... the mini-bazaar in the middle of the space reminded me of the Toronto massive scene (why can't SF do more of that?), especially the power smoothie bar and the chillout coffee lounge. I was so tired from the afternoon, though, and my Red Bull failed to give me wings... Being a trance-head, I didn't really bust-a-move that night, but the jungle toons were infectious and dark, like the black oil virus from the X-files, totally irresistable. The banners/decorations were all amazing, the lasers in the main room totally rawked (e.g. the "running backwards" effect with the trees?), but in general the vibe of the event seemed a lot more clubbish: people in general seemed to be looking for action rather than trying to make friends. Still, I met some really nice people there, the space didn't overheat, and less black goo was present than at 2nd/jax parties. Kudos to the Gathering crew for an excellent setting, and an excellent party! Too bad I kept thinking, "I wonder what's going on at Children of the Sun..." but that was just my trance-head talking... 3. Sunday: Chemistry@ClubECCO My favorite periodic party, now that Man in the Moon is over. The space, well, is just amazing when the weather is nice. Me and my family got there early and got in for free! I met many new friends who have all been invited to the DR6 4.24.99 party, my "last hurrah"... The patio saw a lot of action with an amazing house DJ lineup, and the green room rawked with tech-house from beyond (Agnes B., Girl Friday!)but I spent most of my time in the glory of the trance room... Keith, Skyscraper, Dr. Bubble, Gianni, Moda... a perfect trance lineup for the first Daylight Savings day and a beautiful end to a beautiful weekend. Hi's to Ben, Chrissy, Gary, Curtis, Blair, Silvia, Jennifer, Michelle, Joel, Pip, supermod Jenna, Lia, Michele, and everyone else I'm forgetting... good to see you again's to Victor, Mathew, Jodi, and my lovely loving fairy godparents. I'm so glad Keith and Skyscraper are playing at 4.24.99... Dr. Bubble was all set to spin, too, but bowed out due to a conflict. I'll miss you all next weekend at Tickle 3, due to a family obligation... but I'll be well-rested and totally stoked to techno out on Harmony weekend!!! Christopher, Angel, and Greg, oh my! =) === don't love until you love yourself don't give unless it's free... Alex the Happy Raver From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 19:59:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 570 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 19:59:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 561 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 19:59:39 -0000 Received: from ultimanet.com (HELO sugarbeet.salinas.net) (root@205.179.129.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 19:59:39 -0000 Received: from [209.209.8.51] (06-069.006.popsite.net [209.209.8.69]) by sugarbeet.salinas.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA22446; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:04:23 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <65104eb8.2435bbe6@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:00:22 -0700 To: Taiida@aol.com From: terry estioko Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Ok, so. . . I just got back from watching a deaf play, "Little Women," for my >sign language class assignment and I just now realized how lucky us ravers >are by being able to listen to music and dance, whereas, the deaf, don't get >the joy of it. They don't go out dancing, or go to record and music stores. >What do they do for fun? besides just socializing and other stuff. > >Luv n hugz n stuff > Tami =) I have a funny story related to this. Years ago when I was working at the Good Guys I once sold a *huge* stereo system to a deaf family. It was a long and exhausting sale as you might imagine, me not knowing any sign language. Anyways, I ended up selling them all top of the line equipment, ADCOM amps and preamps, a 15" servo Klipsch subwoofer, and little tiny satellite speakers for their guests that could hear. It was hillarious really, I was blasting techno music in the soundroom with *only the sub on* and they were diggin' it, all grooving to the viberations they felt. So I guess deaf people can enjoy and appreciate music. Feel bad for their neighbors though. =) -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 20:05:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6002 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 20:05:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5893 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 20:05:13 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 20:05:13 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id 3DXGa26975 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:03:00 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <9ac854d8.243bc274@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:03:00 EDT Subject: Fwd: Sometimes people: ???? A short stroy To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_9ac854d8.243bc274_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_9ac854d8.243bc274_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fuck yeah, Jeannie!! This story says so much! it's exactly how I feel... I personally have friends that stand by their views no matter what. ANd if the people throwing a party take offense from those views, oh well, but it's not like they change their attitude in front of them or waver on their viewpoint because of what someone else says. A lot of people talk shit about certain parties to me... but I still go, and I don't go to a lot of parties other people like, because I know I wouldn't enjoy them or the people putting it on. It's all personal experience... and if you're going to bring negativity to the party by either not wanting to be there or because someone put their negative views into your head than why bother going? I also don't appreciate the kids that just go on what they've heard. It's hard not to talk when you have a strong opinion, but make sure it's YOUR opinion based on YOUR experiences. And sometimes I get so sick of sounding like a name dropper that I just shut up. it's a simple as that. hugsn'stuff, trice the teknodiva "look deeply. love strongly. dance hard." --part1_9ac854d8.243bc274_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.4]) by air-yb01.mx.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:36:53 -0400Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id VAA05432 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:36:50 -0400 (EDT)Received: (qmail 12027 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 01:36:40 -0000Received: (qmail 12018 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 01:36:38 -0000Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 01:36:38 -0000Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vNUJa15173 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:33:55 -0400 (EDT)From: Ravergrl27@aol.comMessage-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:33:55 EDTSubject: Re:Sometimes people: ???? A short stroyTo: sfraves@hyperreal.orgMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitX-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.comSender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.orgPrecedence: bulk Reply-To: To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I truly believe some people say one thing to someone and then turn around and say something Totally different to another. Several times I have witness this take place at parties. Its very unsettling to see a lack of Respect in people. I mean some will just say something to another and not know who will be standing right there. It truly amazes me to see people act like this. Its like for example: Joe comes up to some ravers and says Hi there, IM with this group and here is our flyers. Please come. They start talking and they mention someone else's flyer that they had not seen yet and Joe starts going off of on the other group. Saying all kinds of rude and disrespectful things about the other group. He goes as far as to say don't support these people. They are not what the rave scene is about! He goes on and on and the hole time he is smiling not knowing that there are a few other people standing and listening to what Joe is saying right behind him... The innocent ravers that are listening to him think he knows what he is talking about, so they listen and believe what Joe is saying, because he is TRYING to be COOL and PLURLY! But in all the time he spent dissin the other group he is not realizing he is being self destructive. So he say's to the Ravers his good byes while still smiling and says remember to come to my party and make sure you know that we are the REAL scene. and the other group is not. So the group of Ravers walk away... And so do the ones that were listening right behind Joe. Later on in the evening, the other group goes up to Joe and says, Hey what's up Joe (with a smile) and a hug and Joe responds with a smile. Joe reply's with, What's up buddy??????? hUMMM....The other group says, Hey, can I see your Flyer? The group READS and responses with respect and says great job and puts it in their pants pocket. I wish you guys nothing but the best and if you need us for anything don't hesitate to ask Joe... Joe starts talking and says can I see your flyer. The group says sure. Joe is like cool thanks, and starts saying that the group throws really good parties and that he really digs on the group and what they stand for... The group says in response all we want is for people to come together and have fun dancing and making friends. Joe is like, hey I know you guys want nothing but the best for people. And they say their good-byes and Joe turns around and throws the groups flyer on the ground. during this hole time the people that heard Joe dissing on the other group were right there listening to the hole thing that Joe was saying about the group and how great they were. They couldn't believe how phony Joe was. They were in shock and decided to go and tell the group what Joe was saying earlier about them to the innocent ravers. But before they did the group ran into the innocent ravers and tried to give them a flyer and they said they couldn't take it because they didn't want to support the group because they weren't what the rave scene was about. The group respectfully did not to give them a flyer, but they did ask the innocent ravers why they felt that way! The innocent Ravers couldn't say why, but they said that's what they were told. The group said Never believe something unless you experience the people behind the party and the party for yourself. We have a lot of different groups that throw parties and we wish nothing but the best for them. Some will say things that will try in make you see something horrible, but we are here to spread the good vibes and give you a place to express yourselves through music and the joy of uniting everyone as ONE. The innocent ravers looked shocked at what the group was saying. They looked at him and said, You know what? I want one of your flyers. The ravers took the flyer and put it in their pocket. The ravers said it was nice meeting and we will see you at the party! So they walked away. The ravers said to each other, Now there's the true spirit I think raves are about. Damn some people have some serious issue to deal with and I feel bad for that group that have to deal with guys Like Joe. So the people that over heard Joe talking shit went up to the group and let them in on what Joe and his group was saying to the innocent ravers and the group replied, You know there will always be people would will try to bring others down. Some will act has if they like you and turn on you in a heart beat just so that they fit in with other groups. We are here for everyone! If they want to be like that there is nothing we can do, but if there attempts becoming harming and even more personal we will take care of it the best way we can. The group said Thanks for your concern and it took a lot of guts for you to tell us that! We appreciate your honesty and we hope something positive will come out of all the bullshit! MY VIEWS: Believe it when I say, I feel sorry for certain people that have to deal with others that are Shit talking and back stabbing fools! I guess it takes a strong person to deal with it. But when do you say enough? We all cant be plurry all the time when it comes to others going to extreme measure to bring and try to destroy people. I for one have had it with some that do this on our scene. Some make a huge cap in our scene and that totally sucks!!! Please be careful out there. You really never know who will try to hurt you. Sad but true! This is a small scene and we all know that out there, there will always be shit talkers that will go out of their way to destroy the good ones that try to KEEP IT REAL as much as they can even when the bullshit gets ridiculous and way out of hand!!!! Wonder why groups get Sick of the Bullshit and finally say something about it! How many times are you going to let someone get away with it... If you cant grow up and handle things the right way then I guess you have to come down to their level! Lets make this (our Scene) a better place! Also always be careful who you talk to about certain things, because some who you may trust may not be who you think they are... Childish behavior is really what it comes down to! Let's make sure we all deal with things more humble and understanding! No one is perfect but we can help one another make things a lot better for our scene as a hole... Player hating has got to go.... I meant this letter in the best intentions possible! I hope some can see a bigger picture here.. Take care and always remember we are all here for the same reasons. With respect, Jeannie P.S. Lets all work together and we can reach the greatest rewards of Unity=LOVE WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER ! lETS NOT MAKE ANY BARRIERS! --part1_9ac854d8.243bc274_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 20:53:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19097 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 20:53:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19086 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 20:53:49 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 20:53:49 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA18478; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:53:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca23-03.ix.netcom.com(209.110.229.131) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma018085; Tue Apr 6 15:51:22 1999 Message-ID: <370A73C9.FAE2577B@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:51:22 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" , Ki@cloudfactory.org Subject: Let's Move on. (was : if you've received spam from...) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im over this... It's way to draining to be trapped in such a negative mind frame. To everyone on the list I apologize for letting myself fall to a lower level and get sucked into this crap, and bringing you all with me, just to vent my frustration at the world. I guess I'm only as human as anyone else, and the presure gets to me as well. It sucks when there are so many people out there trying to sabatage your efforts to bring people together through music and dancing. It started with the cops fucking us over on Friday... Being cops I understand... It's their job to come after promoters and make it hard on them. But to add insult to injury, the next day, I have ravers ploting to sabataging and attacking me. Having the self apointed spam gestapo come after me, after dealing with the rest of the Bullshit on friday was like the final straw. To Ki... whatever dude, get a life, and please stay out of mine, your timing seems to stink. Because of your negative campaign against me, I feel all fucking nasty inside because you dragged me into this, and brought me down to this gutter level. You took a simple e-mail informing you, a supposed raver, about a rave sent by a rave promoter, and tried to manipulate it to look like a direct spam campaign from a business to capitalize of peoples ignorance. You and I live in two different worlds and will never see eye to eye on this. I would prefer it be drooped and we just stay out of each others way's but if you want to go ahead and notify my ISP and try to get my account shut down, and make a headache for me to deal with... then do it. Im tired of trying to stop you, and i'm tired of all this drama. I hope you sleep better at night, and I hope all this was worth it for you. You just reminded me of how dark the other side of this scene can be, and brought me one step closer to reevaluating why I even bother trying so hard. In a way, I have a marginal respect for you, becuse like me, you also fight for what you believe in. You stuck to your beliefs and truly pursued this, despite how unethical, and childish your crusade was, you still were determined to follow though with it, and to hurt me, regardless of the consequences. And as much as I disagree with all your reasoning, and find your justification personal and immature... I do admire your persistence, despite it's self indulgent validity. I feel, more than confident, that your Kharm will get you eventually and when it does you will know why. To everyone else reading this... I made a mistake when I assumed that because Ki's e-mail address was @cloudfactory, that he was a principal in their group. I stand corrected. I was informed that that is not the case. So to all those out there, please do not hold any ill grievance towards the cloudfactory crew. I would like to beleive that there is only respect, and no bad blood with them and Feel Good Ent, and hopefully never will be. I hope this puts an end to all this crap, and lets us move on with our lives. Keep it mellow, Vlad From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 21:05:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26245 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 21:05:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 26236 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 21:05:12 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 21:05:12 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 610299; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:05:11 -0700 Message-ID: <370A76A3.21C9FC7A@warmth.org> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:03:31 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: talk@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR-*warmth* needs your help! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* It is time to tackle the major project of reconstructing the *warmth* community website. We need planners and project managers. Any help would be so greatly appreciated :-o} Please reply to this e-mail if you are down to assist! Thanks in advance, Matt Downer *warmth* productions From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 21:18:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5822 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 21:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 5542 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 21:18:10 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 21:18:10 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 610311; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:18:15 -0700 Message-ID: <370A79B3.3793B8F7@warmth.org> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:16:36 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: terry estioko CC: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: I just realized how lucky we all are. . . References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Hahaha.... THanks for that story.... It made me hella laugh!! vipassana terry estioko wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > >Ok, so. . . I just got back from watching a deaf play, "Little Women," for my > >sign language class assignment and I just now realized how lucky us ravers > >are by being able to listen to music and dance, whereas, the deaf, don't get > >the joy of it. They don't go out dancing, or go to record and music stores. > >What do they do for fun? besides just socializing and other stuff. > > > >Luv n hugz n stuff > > Tami =) > > I have a funny story related to this. Years ago when I was working at the > Good Guys I once sold a *huge* stereo system to a deaf family. It was a > long and exhausting sale as you might imagine, me not knowing any sign > language. > > Anyways, I ended up selling them all top of the line equipment, ADCOM amps > and preamps, a 15" servo Klipsch subwoofer, and little tiny satellite > speakers for their guests that could hear. It was hillarious really, I was > blasting techno music in the soundroom with *only the sub on* and they were > diggin' it, all grooving to the viberations they felt. So I guess deaf > people can enjoy and appreciate music. Feel bad for their neighbors though. > =) > > -terry > > ------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@viberation.com > http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 21:44:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 994 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 21:44:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 945 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 21:44:36 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 21:44:36 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id uLHIa18297; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <668aa034.243bd496@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:20:22 EDT Subject: Re: nrr...if you've received spam from... To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, phred@well.com CC: ki@cloudfactory.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WhrDaMud@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you have filters on your e.mail account then use em and filter out whoever's e.mail addy you don't like then you won't recieve any e.mail from them ne more. Hell Vald i know how you feel i have someone on my Humor Corner Joke list that want me to take them off the list too but the thing is i have over 7200 people on my list and i am not going to search the whole thing for one person so i ut a disclaimer at the top of ever mail i send out and it tells them how to remove THEM SELVES. but i still have some idiot (who don't now how to use an internet) contact my Hotmail account and tell them that i am spaming them, when it actually comes from a Mail server and not from my hotmail act. o well sorry bot the spam that time i got too cared away(guess i had to vent somehow). love and light hi tek redneck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 21:48:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5926 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 21:48:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 5851 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 21:48:37 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 21:48:37 -0000 Received: from 209.24.164.232 (dynamic57.pm19.san-jose.best.com [209.157.116.185]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id OAA19047 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370A80D5.D94A4447@resourcerecords.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:47:01 -0700 From: The Accomplice Reply-To: chris@resourcerecords.com Organization: Resource Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Thanks for the replies!! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I want to thank everyone who responded...lots, and I mean lots of you did!! Keep your eyes open for future give-a-ways, there will be more. For all of you who recieve a tape, please take the time and write a little somethin' about it here, possitive or negative(just don't get carried away)!! Tapes will ship this week!!!! much respect.. chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 21:55:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12519 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 21:55:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406215527.12518.qmail@hyperreal.org> Received: (qmail 12427 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 21:55:14 -0000 Received: from tyranny.egregious.net (qmailr@206.159.99.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 21:55:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 19099 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 21:55:08 -0000 Received: from pm1-08.truelink.com (HELO catharsis) (206.159.99.104) by tyranny.egregious.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 21:55:08 -0000 X-Sender: catharsis@tyranny.egregious.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:58:17 -0700 To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org From: Catharsis Subject: BSP: Egregious (Closing Event/Free Party) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks! I know most of you can not make this event, but if you have friends in the central coast be sure to let them know about this! This is the closing event for club Egregious and it is a free party... There will be updated= information posted on the website including new pictures, recent recorded sets, and information about where Egregious is going. Anyway, I was bummed that F8 sold out... When I arrived in the Bay Area the day there was not a ticket to be found. Eh.. If I can ever break free from the work/school shackles again maybe I will party with the SFRavers yet.. :) -------------------------------------------------- Egregious Techno:Trance "Spiritual renewal through music" Wednesday April 7th! DJs: guest EZRay & Catharsis 9.30pm:11.30pm [EZRay] Trance 11.30pm:1.30am [Catharsis]=A0Techno/Trance Where: The Flats 1051 Nipomo St. San Luis Obispo, CA Cover: Free!!! 18 and over, full bar and drink specials 21+ w/ ID SPECIAL NOTICE: This is the closing event for Egregious as a club. We really want to thank everyone who participated with the club by throwing a free party. The April 7th Egregious is a free trance party featuring guest DJ EZRay(Stargaze Family,= SF) and Catharsis.=20 Stay tuned into the Egregious website to find out more about future one-off trance/techno and one-off industrial events in the central coast. For more information contact us at: 805.541.8496 http://www.egregious.net/=A0=A0 (Website will be updated this weekend with pictures from the closing night!) Or write: Attn: Egregious PO Box 1136 San Luis Obispo, CA, 93406 --------------------------------------------------=20 "Vodka is like a debugging tool for the soul; it takes it apart line by line and shows you what to fix." -- Luke Peacock Egregious (San Luis Obispo, CA), Wed. April 7th "Laying down the dance floor for the neo-dissonant generation." *** Closing night *** Free party *** Techno & Trance *** DJs: guest EZray (stargazers, SF) and Catharsis 805.541.8496 or write: PO Box 1136, San Luis Obispo, CA, 93406 "http://www.egregious.net" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 21:58:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15235 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 21:58:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 15080 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 21:58:23 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.159) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 21:58:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 26080 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 21:57:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406215751.26079.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.197.169.49 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:57:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.197.169.49] From: "Hai La" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: an interview with a raver Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:57:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi beautiful guys & gals.. wrote this to share with yer today. hope you like it.. b (boss): hello, how are you doing today? r (raver): awesome, feel like giving you a hug hehee.. and how are you? b: good, how did you know about our company? r: oh i just drove by one night looking for a place to party hehehe.. just kidding hehee.. b: you're rather funny, how do you get along with your co-workers? r: ooh i love people. as a matter of fact, i couldn't think of anybody i don't like heheee.. i like you already hehheee. b: great, that's what we look for in a candidate. let's get to a somewhat technical question, how do you approach solving a problem? r: *scratching and massaging head* uuhh i would scratch my head and think hehee.. no really i'd ask my heart for guidance and normally it makes the right decision. i believe if you care and put your heart and soul into doing whatever, you'll succeed.. even after a lot of heartaches hehee.. b: you're certainly a happy camper, where do you see yourself in five years? r: hehee.. five years!? i change my mind every five minutes soo heee.. the chance of me being a manager or get fired, is just as good as being a dj hehee. b: okay, that's enough smiles for the day. good luck to you. r: thank you so much for spending the time and much love and happiness to you and your family.. *scratching head and thinking.. yeah, i did well for a one minute interview, the world is perfect, and i'm going to get this job* i could write more but work is calling.. l&hugss, hai From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 22:43:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18100 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 22:43:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 18083 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 22:43:46 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd104.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 22:43:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 43447 invoked by uid 0); 6 Apr 1999 22:43:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990406224307.43446.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.192.151 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:43:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.192.151] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: audio impact question Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:43:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk do you have to buy pre-sale tix at compound? or can you pay at the door????? oh and where it gonna be at?.. since it ain't at meritime no more.. david.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 22:51:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22211 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 22:51:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 22201 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 22:51:09 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?pu59NmhKJadh+aYBu0NRNpmYd8N8cD/Z?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 22:51:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id PAA07414; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:49:27 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:49:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: The Accomplice cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Thanks for the replies!! In-Reply-To: <370A80D5.D94A4447@resourcerecords.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey what's up. I replied only like 30 minutes after your original post in the wee hours of the morning....did I make the first 15 cut? If so, my address is Max McCauley 2725 Haste St. #308 Berkeley, CA 94704 if I didn't make it let me know and perhaps I can hook you up with a drum n bass tape with me providing lyrics on it...or something from my friend Merrick Brown who is doing a techno/electro label down in Austin, Texas, and actually scored 100 To Watch in URB this last month... ez, max On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, The Accomplice wrote: > I want to thank everyone who responded...lots, and I mean lots of you did!! > Keep your eyes open for future give-a-ways, there will be more. For all of > you who recieve a tape, please take the time and write a little somethin' > about it here, possitive or negative(just don't get carried away)!! > > Tapes will ship this week!!!! > > much respect.. > > chris > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 06 22:56:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28186 invoked by uid 6000); 6 Apr 1999 22:56:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 28174 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 22:56:13 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?o8Ffjkmm68X8Me1MSpKmFTEVuIcFl8GY?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 22:56:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id PAA08511; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:54:35 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:54:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: The Accomplice cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Thanks for the replies!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can someone explain to me why chris@resourcerecords.com is the only person I am stupid enough to cc:sfraves@hyperreal.org every time I fucking write him an email? HI HOW ARE YOU I AM FINE SEE YOU AT AUDIO IMPACT 10-4, duh, max On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > > Hey what's up. > > I replied only like 30 minutes after your original post in the wee hours > of the morning....did I make the first 15 cut? > > If so, my address is > > Max McCauley > 2725 Haste St. #308 > Berkeley, CA > 94704 > > if I didn't make it let me know and perhaps I can hook you up with a drum > n bass tape with me providing lyrics on it...or something from my friend > Merrick Brown who is doing a techno/electro label down in Austin, Texas, > and actually scored 100 To Watch in URB this last month... > > ez, > max > > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, The Accomplice wrote: > > > I want to thank everyone who responded...lots, and I mean lots of you did!! > > Keep your eyes open for future give-a-ways, there will be more. For all of > > you who recieve a tape, please take the time and write a little somethin' > > about it here, possitive or negative(just don't get carried away)!! > > > > Tapes will ship this week!!!! > > > > much respect.. > > > > chris > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 00:02:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5919 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 00:02:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 5695 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 00:02:47 -0000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (17.254.0.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 00:02:47 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12504 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:58:36 -0700 Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (mailgate2.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:58:26 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv3.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA04984 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:58:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199904062358.QAA04984@scv3.apple.com> Subject: New Alien Laser :) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:58:26 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Check it out, for those of you who want to be on the cutting edge of _laser_ fashion! http://www.pureacidmixtapes.com/necklaces/products-lazers.htm bbong From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 00:09:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11336 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 00:09:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 11127 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 00:09:38 -0000 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net (HELO mail.ednet.net) (216.112.68.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 00:09:38 -0000 Received: from [216.112.68.152] ([216.112.68.152] verified) by mail.ednet.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b2) with ESMTP id S.0000302268; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:09:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: joe@mail.ednet.net Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:09:41 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Joe Rice Subject: [bsp] Static tonight w/Mr. Scruff Cc: ug-update@topica.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Static - 6 April 1999 Special Guest: Mr. Scruff [Ninja Tune/Cup of Tea/Grand Central] A.R.M. 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From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 00:20:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16068 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 00:20:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 16056 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 00:20:53 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 00:20:53 -0000 Received: (from setje@localhost) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA17784; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:30:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Setje-Eilers Message-Id: <199904070030.RAA17784@mail.lunatic.org> To: hai_la@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: an interview with a raver In-Reply-To: <19990406215751.26079.qmail@hotmail.com>) cc: setje@mail.lunatic.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Cute. ... it's actually pretty amazing how nervous you end up making people (in corporate America) if you just walk around with an honest sincere smile on your face. This reminds me of what goes through my head every time I hear an HR person / Management type use the phrase: "Here at company y we work hard and we play hard." I always want to respond saying that while I can deal with working hard on occasion, I never really worked up the nerve to hit several clubs and parties every night of the week while meth and coke binging for months at a time. But hey, if their compensation packages allow for such habits, then they've got my interest. -jan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 00:31:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23700 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 00:31:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23682 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 00:31:40 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 00:31:40 -0000 Received: from UnUm2@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vDYIa07645 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:25:22 -0400 (EDT) From: UnUm2@aol.com Message-ID: <97c4ed71.243bfff2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:25:22 EDT Subject: room for rent To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: UnUm2@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Room for rent in San Jose Home Available 4-15-99 Rent $700 plus split utilities must be dependable From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 01:15:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17736 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 01:15:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 17485 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 01:15:05 -0000 Received: from cubbie-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO cubbie.excite.com) (198.3.99.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 01:15:05 -0000 Received: from ants.excite.com ([199.172.152.146]) by cubbie.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990407011426.BTJS23093.cubbie@ants.excite.com> for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:14:26 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: spammin' n-stuff Message-Id: <923447666.1862.830@excite.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:14:26 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (which reminds me, whatever happened to mr. n-stuff? he used to be so entertaining!) i responded privately to vlad and ki originally about the shit-slinging going on (and, ki, though you said you've responded to everyone who responded to you, i didn't get anything .... ) but... as a general topic, this spam issue is pretty interesting... i mean, in the world of snailmail, we generally all get mass mailings from different sources... and i doubt if people go ballistic about it... they simply choose to toss it out, or notify the sender to take them off their list. and if someone hands you a flyer at a party, you say yes, or no, or save and read it later... don't think i've ever seen someone start taking legal action to stop that person from handing out their flyers. (mr officer... that man tried to hand me a piece of paper!!) to me, sending a raver a notice about a rave is not spam... and that's not what the regulations about spamming were meant to cover, don't you think?... there is no personal infringement, and i get things several times a week on sfraves that are sent to me because i am a member of sfraves, a public list... i know they're separate because i subscribe to the digest, and any other posts than the twice-or-three-times a day digests come from elsewhere. that's how mailing list development works in the world of marketing.... people who have shown an interest in a certain product, leisure activity, whatever, get added to the list... so i'm trying hard to imagine what would set me off enough to make a public case, and to try to shut down someone's email account... can't think of how i could get that upset about it... so i have to think that there's some other agenda... and whatever it is.... listen to that sucking sound of precious hours of several people's lives disappearing. pretty scary. phred, thanks for your rational input... and ki, please send vlad the pertinent info so he can get you off his lists, and we can get over this crap. see y'all at ComeUnity tomorrow night... leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 01:16:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19042 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 01:16:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 19033 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 01:16:36 -0000 Received: from web217.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 01:16:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407011631.26948.rocketmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.104.156.70] by web217.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:16:31 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: FOUND at Children of the Sun To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A kind of backpacky-bag. We found it during clean up. Please email me to identify it and the contents... Love, Michael o)-< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 01:17:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19829 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 01:17:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 19808 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 01:17:30 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 01:17:30 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id 7WXTa02338; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:13:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: <5140198b.243c0b3d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:13:33 EDT Subject: FWD: What's Your Buddy's Name? This so sooooo funny!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >This guy walks into a bar and two steps in, he realizes it's a gay bar > but decides, 'What the heck, I really want a drink.' >When the gay waiter approaches he says to the customer, 'What's the >name of your penis?' > The customer says, 'Look, I'm not into any of that. All I want is a >drink'. > The gay waiter says, 'I'm sorry but I can't serve you until you tell >me the name of your penis. Mine for instance is called Nike, for the >slogan 'Just Do > It.' That guy down at the end of the bar calls his Snickers, because >It really Satisfies." The customer looks dumbfounded so the bartender >tells him he will >give him a second to think it over. > > So the customer asks the man sitting to his left who is sipping on a >beer and asks, 'Hey bud, what's the name of your penis?' > The man to left, with a smile, looks back and says, 'TIMEX.' > The thirsty customer asks, 'Why Timex?' The fella proudly replies, >'Cause it takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'!' > > A little shaken, the customer turns to the fella on his right sipping >on a fruity margarita. 'So, what do you call your penis?' > The man to his right turns to him and proudly exclaims, 'FORD', >because quality is Job 1,' Then adds, 'Have you driven a Ford, lately?' > > Even more shaken, the customer has to think for a moment before he >comes up with a name for his penis. He turns to the bartender and >exclaims, > > The name of my penis is Secret'. Now give me my beer. > > The bartender begins to pour the customer a beer, but with a puzzled >look asks, 'Why secret?' . > > The customer says ' IT'S STRONG ENOUGH FOR A MAN BUT MADE FOR A >WOMAN!' From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 01:31:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26583 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 01:31:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26574 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 01:31:28 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 01:31:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407013115.16933.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.104.156.70] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 18:31:15 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:31:15 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: BSP: Egregious (Closing Event/Free Party) To: Catharsis , SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk EZRay happens to be one of my favorite DJs. Not only is his style and technique beautiful and moving, but he's one of the nicest guys as well. And modest! Rumour has it that he'll be spinning at some event called "BioLogic"... EZRay is one of the DJs who's tape did *not* get stolen when my car got broken into. It is also one of my most valued possessions. and it's stuck in the tape deck, (the faceplate was stolen) AND I CAN'T GET IT OUT!!!!! AAAAAHHHH!!! To whoever can, check this guy out. You'll not be disappointed. Love, Michael o)-< --- Catharsis wrote: > Hi folks! > > I know most of you can not make this event, but if > you have friends in the > central coast be sure to let them know about this! > This is the closing event > for club Egregious and it is a free party... There > will be updated information > posted on the website including new pictures, recent > recorded sets, and > information about where Egregious is going. > > Anyway, I was bummed that F8 sold out... When I > arrived in the Bay Area the > day > there was not a ticket to be found. Eh.. If I can > ever break free from the > work/school shackles again maybe I will party with > the SFRavers yet.. :) > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Egregious > Techno:Trance > "Spiritual renewal through music" > > Wednesday April 7th! > > DJs: guest EZRay & Catharsis > 9.30pm:11.30pm [EZRay] Trance > 11.30pm:1.30am [Catharsis] Techno/Trance > > Where: > The Flats > 1051 Nipomo St. > San Luis Obispo, CA > > Cover: > Free!!! > 18 and over, full bar and drink specials 21+ w/ ID > > SPECIAL NOTICE: > This is the closing event for Egregious as a club. > We really want to thank > everyone who participated with the club by throwing > a free party. The April > 7th > Egregious is a free trance party featuring guest DJ > EZRay(Stargaze Family, SF) > and Catharsis. > > Stay tuned into the Egregious website to find out > more about future one-off > trance/techno and one-off industrial events in the > central coast. > > For more information contact us at: > 805.541.8496 > http://www.egregious.net/   (Website will be updated > this weekend with > pictures > from the closing night!) > > Or write: > Attn: Egregious > PO Box 1136 San Luis Obispo, CA, 93406 > > -------------------------------------------------- > "Vodka is like a debugging tool for the soul; it > takes it apart line by > line and shows you what to fix." -- Luke Peacock > > Egregious (San Luis Obispo, CA), Wed. April 7th > "Laying down the dance floor for the neo-dissonant > generation." > > *** Closing night *** Free party *** Techno & Trance > *** > DJs: guest EZray (stargazers, SF) and Catharsis > > 805.541.8496 or write: PO Box 1136, San Luis Obispo, > CA, 93406 > "http://www.egregious.net" > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 01:39:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 366 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 01:39:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 165 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 01:39:34 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 01:39:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (share203@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18268 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from share203@elephant.zo.com) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:39:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Share Bear To: SFRaves Subject: Okay, it's time for me to go. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Byebye, SFR. (: It's been real.... -Sharon I love you when you dance when you freestyle in trance. -Alanis Morissette "SO PURE" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 02:27:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26262 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 02:27:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 26252 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 02:27:00 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 02:27:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 12146 invoked by uid 4000); 7 Apr 1999 02:27:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 02:27:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:27:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf To: leslie.ayres@excite.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: spammin' n-stuff In-Reply-To: <923447666.1862.830@excite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > but... as a general topic, this spam issue is pretty interesting... i mean, > in the world of snailmail, we generally all get mass mailings from different > sources... and i doubt if people go ballistic about it... they simply choose > to toss it out, or notify the sender to take them off their list. But receiving unsolicited commercial email is different, because it's my time (when I'm usually trying to do other, work related things) and my resources (when someone sends a big message with an attachment, it can take time to download); so to really try to turn it into a real-world metaphor, you'd have to envision Vlad stopping by your office at work, asking to take 5 minutes of your day as he hands you a flyer and tells you about the party. Let me put it another way. Many of us remember how the Internet was before spam, before Canter and Seigel came along with their Green Card lottery, when it was a genuine joy to receive new messages, when we wanted everyone to get an email account and be a part of it. I remember the days before email-collecting robots, when you didn't have to worry about posting under your real address, or sending a post to usenet from your real address. This wasn't an Internet without commerce, by the way - there were plenty of commercial web sites up, ad banners had already started to be used, and for awhile it was looking like we really could have a set of business ethics online that respected privacy and empowered the users. Instead, the carrot was simply too good to pass up. We didn't make it painful enough for the first few spammers, I guess, and they went off and wrote books and wrote software to make spamming better and collect addresses better, and even when they got 1 response out of 100K senders, the economics still worked in their favor. The result? Anyone who posts to a public forum or puts their real address on their web pages gets literally a torrent of spam messages. For those who read it on a daily basis, maybe 20 messages/day isn't a problem for you. I find it to be; and for those people, like my parents, who read email maybe once a week, having to deal with 30 messages about new porn sites and pyramid schemes is a really big turn-off to using email at all, and I can't blame them. So those who care about the Internet have taken a very agitated perspective of spam. They hold conferences about it; write software to block it; close down bad relays through which spammers send their mail; and above all, make it clear to marketers on the Internet that the idea of sending email to someone you don't know previously about a commercial product you have to sell is the first step on a road we do not want you to take. Why? Because if spammers are able to say to the world, "Look, this works!", and be able to convince people the costs stay low and there's no danger to it, then those few messages a day will explode to hundreds. And of course, every spammer will be convinced you really need to hear their pitch, because you really need to know about their new litter box invention or their new scheme for making 100G's a week. If that happens, the ISP's (who are the real victims here) and companies will start changing the rules of the game, so that the economics don't work for the spammers. How? The big obvious way would be to take away the concept of free email. If spammers had to pay $.25 for every message they sent, they, uh, wouldn't. Whereas most big companies won't have any problem with that. Don't think it could happen? There are lots of proposals for things like this floating around, and if the spam problem isn't solved, it's going to be compelling enough for enough people that it'll be deployed. Don't want to see it happen? Neither do I, and the only way to make sure it doesn't is to make sure spammers, even neophyte spammers who don't think they're spammers, are taught a lesson. Now, on to the issue at hand. There are a couple things Vlad did when he sent his message which, for many, marked it as spam: a) he sent it to people who didn't ask for it. Vlad, there is a protocol to asking people if they want to receive messages from you - you invite them to join a mailing list, which I'm sure Netcom will be happy to run for you (or someone for free like egroups, topica, etc). I'm not sure I believe you when you say you only added people who signed off from SFRaves, as I also got a direct copy, a couple as a matter of fact. b) He sent it to an alias at his domain, instead of "To: sfraves", when he sent it to sfraves. That could cause filters that look for "To: sfraves" to not filter the message correctly, and thus pop up in people's main inbox. Whether Vlad removed Ki instantly isn't the issue, really. *Every* spammer says in their messages "send mail *here* to be removed", and no one believes that, because anyone who has tried simply gets more spam mail, in general. I'm not interested in vendettas; it looks like both parties are willing to step down, which is good. Vlad, my advice to you would be to go to topica.com or egroups.com and create a mailing list there for your party announcements. Still send them to SFRaves, but send them directly (i.e., don't sign up sfraves to this new list), and be sure and mark them as BSPs. Topica also lets you add people to your list directly, but when you do that it sends them a message asking for confirmation, so from that point on there'd be NO WAY someone could complain. I'd also advise that threatening people with physical violence over email is a very dumb thing to do. Ki... let it drop. Especially if Vlad moves his list to a list-hosting facility so it's done right. So, peace in our time? =) Now to catch the next flight to Kosovo.... Brian p.s. - it might seem silly, but this really is a real issue, one that people in the ISP business, as well as the online marketing business, face all the time. 99.9% of the companies out there do the right thing; of course, by doing the right thing, that makes it all the more enticing to those who don't. That's why so many of us are so hyper about the issues. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 02:28:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27313 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 02:28:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 27304 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 02:28:06 -0000 Received: from web218.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 02:28:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407022802.17521.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.104.156.70] by web218.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:28:02 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:28:02 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: AARG! I hate HOTMAIL! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: talk@warmth.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If anyone's sent me anything to one of my hotmail accounts since 4AM this morning, I have not, and can not retrieve it due to some stupid mistake on Hotmail's part... My red stickman "excite" account is sucking as well. Grrr. :) mathew, (psifire) are you having problems too? love, michael o)-< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 02:41:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5563 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 02:41:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 5520 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 02:41:05 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 02:41:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407022452.16335.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web1; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:24:52 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:24:52 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: AARG! I hate HOTMAIL! To: The Red Stickman , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Web-based accounts, in general, are sucking right now. As the ranks of users grow, I'm sure they have fewer resources to handle the problems that arise. The moral is this: It's free. What do you expect? -Science ---The Red Stickman wrote: > > If anyone's sent me anything to one of my hotmail > accounts since 4AM this morning, I have not, and can > not retrieve it due to some stupid mistake on > Hotmail's part... > > My red stickman "excite" account is sucking as well. > Grrr. > > :) > > mathew, (psifire) are you having problems too? > > love, > michael > o)-< > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 02:43:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7899 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 02:43:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 7883 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 02:43:16 -0000 Received: from ns2.intrex.net (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.252) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 02:43:16 -0000 Received: from hnr [209.42.228.254] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.01) id A76B2D025E; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:48:11 EST From: "Billie Blaze" To: "SF Raves" Subject: House Nation Records Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:42:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01be80a0$37bfec40$fee42ad1@hnr.intrex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please chek out our New Site Layout.. http://www.housenationrecords.com Specializing in House RealAudio Mixes Live Every Wednesday From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 02:50:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12711 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 02:50:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12701 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 02:50:35 -0000 Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 02:50:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407024820.21070.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.211] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:48:20 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:48:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Thanks for the replies!! To: Max McCauley , The Accomplice Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wouldn't feel comfortable writing to you privately either. I would want it all to be public domain, and so it is. Has someone been calling you stupid in your life? If so, I am sorry that you had to put up with that, but please don't pass that on, it's rather cruel.love,Julie --- Max McCauley wrote: > > Can someone explain to me why > chris@resourcerecords.com is the only > person I am stupid enough to > cc:sfraves@hyperreal.org every time I fucking > write him an email? > > HI HOW ARE YOU I AM FINE SEE YOU AT AUDIO IMPACT > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > > > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > > > > > Hey what's up. > > > > I replied only like 30 minutes after your original > post in the wee hours > > of the morning....did I make the first 15 cut? > > > > If so, my address is > > > > Max McCauley > > 2725 Haste St. #308 > > Berkeley, CA > > 94704 > > > > if I didn't make it let me know and perhaps I can > hook you up with a drum > > n bass tape with me providing lyrics on it...or > something from my friend > > Merrick Brown who is doing a techno/electro label > down in Austin, Texas, > > and actually scored 100 To Watch in URB this last > month... > > > > ez, > > max > > > > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, The Accomplice wrote: > > > > > I want to thank everyone who responded...lots, > and I mean lots of you did!! > > > Keep your eyes open for future give-a-ways, > there will be more. For all of > > > you who recieve a tape, please take the time and > write a little somethin' > > > about it here, possitive or negative(just don't > get carried away)!! > > > > > > Tapes will ship this week!!!! > > > > > > much respect.. > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 02:52:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13990 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 02:52:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 13981 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 02:52:01 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 02:52:01 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA04928 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca18-12.ix.netcom.com(209.110.228.76) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma004572; Tue Apr 6 21:49:29 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990406194026.00ac9a80@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:48:52 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: HARMONY presents "The Springtime Flower Festival!!!" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1233662==_.ALT" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_1233662==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everyone, It is getting closer... We here at the Harmony camp are getting prepared for this party. We can't wait... You guys are gonna be blown away with this event!!! Here's the info... On April 17th '99 the Harmony Family will come together to celebrate the *HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL* THE TECH HOUSE TULIPS Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recording artist, Los Angeles) Angel Alanis (Missile Records UK, 4 Track Records, Contaminated, from Chicago) Greg Sandler (Harmony/ Harmonics) Dutch (Inner Eye/ Area 51) LI (Harmony/ Viberation) MAC (Harmony/ Harmonics) THE DRUM N' DAISIES Protolab (Live performance, SF) Re: (Live performance, SF) Science (Harmony/ Viberation) Russel G (Harmony/ Harmonics) Cimino (Arm crew) THE DOWNBEAT DAFFODILS Tha Roman (Yougoodmissy, LA) Andy W (Live performance) J-Bot (Live performance) Jahsh (Harmony) B))merang For info call (408)486-9591 or (415)289-6788 www.harmonyproductions.com Presale tickets are availble NOW for $20 at the following locations: (There will be more tickets at the door) Harmonics - Santa Rosa F-8 - SF Housewares - SF Daddy's - Berk T&J Factory - Berk Solid Grooves - San Jose In The Mix - Sac Spring flowers are a symbol of the unexplainable magic of love and renewal on our planet. The flower has always represented the Harmony Family for a special reason. All of us are unuiqe blossoms, with one place to grow, under the same sky, blooming together, as a community. We are interdependent on eachother for life, for love, and for harmony!!! We encourage the celebration of your individuality at this event, by asking you to wear your most festive, funky, colorful clothing in order to create a field of beautiful wild flowers!!! We really hope that you guys come in great spirits and dance together to share our positive energy!!! Be safe, be responcible, and let's have the time of our lives!!! Peace and love, Greg= ) --=====================_1233662==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hello everyone,

It is getting closer... We here at the Harmony camp are getting prepared for this party. We can't wait... You guys are gonna be blown away with this event!!! Here's the info...


On April 17th '99 the Harmony Family will come together to celebrate the

*HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL*

THE TECH HOUSE TULIPS           
Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recording artist, Los Angeles)               
Angel Alanis (Missile Records UK, 4 Track Records, Contaminated, from Chicago)  
Greg Sandler (Harmony/ Harmonics)                                       
Dutch   (Inner Eye/ Area 51)
LI (Harmony/ Viberation)                                
MAC (Harmony/ Harmonics)

THE DRUM N' DAISIES
Protolab (Live performance, SF)
Re: (Live performance, SF)
Science (Harmony/ Viberation)
Russel G (Harmony/ Harmonics)
Cimino (Arm crew)

THE DOWNBEAT DAFFODILS
Tha Roman (Yougoodmissy, LA)
Andy W (Live performance)
J-Bot (Live performance)
Jahsh (Harmony)
B))merang

For info call (408)486-9591 or (415)289-6788
www.harmonyproductions.com

Presale tickets are availble NOW for $20 at the following locations:
(There will be more tickets at the door)

Harmonics - Santa Rosa
F-8 - SF
Housewares - SF
Daddy's - Berk
T&J Factory - Berk
Solid Grooves - San Jose
In The Mix - Sac

Spring flowers are a symbol of the unexplainable magic of love and renewal
on our planet. The flower has always represented the Harmony Family for a
special reason. All of us are unuiqe blossoms, with one place to grow,
under the same sky, blooming together, as a community. We are
interdependent on eachother for life, for love, and for harmony!!!

We encourage the celebration of your individuality at this event, by asking
you to wear your most festive, funky, colorful clothing in order to create
a field of beautiful wild flowers!!!

We really hope that you guys come in great spirits and dance together to share our positive energy!!! Be safe, be responcible, and let's have the time of our lives!!!

Peace and love,

Greg= )
--=====================_1233662==_.ALT-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 02:59:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17827 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 02:59:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 17819 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 02:59:52 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 02:59:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407025332.16887.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 19:53:32 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:53:32 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: (BSP) HARMONY presents "The Springtime Flower Festival!!!" To: Greg Sandler , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Silly Greg forgot to put in the BSP...silly silly... Anyways, I hope to see alot of you there. I don't go out much these days, but I'm really looking forward to playing this one. Dare to expect more! -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 03:07:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21353 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 03:07:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 21205 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 03:07:33 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 03:07:33 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vGZOa15173 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:05:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:05:06 EDT Subject: Who all is going to HARMONY'S: "The Springtime Flower Festival!!!" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just curious to find out who's going to Harmony next weekend??? Anyone I know? =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 03:09:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23524 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 03:09:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 23375 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 03:09:47 -0000 Received: from web202.mail.yahoo.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.102) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 03:09:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407030951.10662.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.212.18.211] by web202.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 20:09:51 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:09:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: nrr: on being deaf and dancing To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello, there's some sort of a discussion that's been going on here about deaf people. I'm kind of getting the idea that people feel sorry for people who do not "hear" in a traditional sense of the word. Like if I were to clap my hands in the presence of most of you, you'd probably hear the sound of my hands coming together, unless of course your head is filled with other things, then maybe you'd be missing out on it. Anyway, there are many ways to hear. Bethoveen (sp?) went deaf, and he could still hear music, and he continued to compose and perform live to the hearing population while he was deaf to the external world. If you can imagine your favorite song, then you can most certainly hear it, and if you can hear it, you can also dance to it. I do that in the shower all the time. Imagination is a very powerful too. Everyone has an imagination, and no one who uses and values it is impaired in anyway. love,love,love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 03:43:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10457 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 03:43:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10123 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 03:43:26 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 03:43:26 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id 3ZZJa09711 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:37:43 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:37:43 EDT Subject: Re: Who all is going to HARMONY'S: "The Springtime Flower Festival!!!" To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/6/99 8:07:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Taiida@aol.com writes: << Just curious to find out who's going to Harmony next weekend??? Anyone I know? =) >> DO we have to do this for every party weeks in Advance??? I don't even know what I'm doing tomorrow!! It takes up WAAAAY too much space in tha mailbox if you know what I'm saying. What's a lot more fun is to organize a meeting spot and be surprised when You DO run into people at the list. Ok.. or wait until the weekend of the party at least to post shiznit like this. hugs n;stuff, trice the tekno diva "BITCH IS SPELLED B-I-S-P-O" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 05:11:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8476 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 05:11:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 8460 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 05:11:29 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 05:11:29 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7KYXGR4; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 01:11:21 EDT To: Taiida@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:09:07 -0700 Subject: Re: Who all is going to HARMONY'S: "The Springtime Flower Festival!!!" Message-ID: <19990406.221417.-94987.5.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-12 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I will definitely be there. Harmony is tha shit. If ya don't kno, now ya kno. Peace, Theresa On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:05:06 EDT Taiida@aol.com writes: >Just curious to find out who's going to Harmony next weekend??? >Anyone I >know? =) > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 05:11:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8481 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 05:11:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 8466 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 05:11:30 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 05:11:30 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7KYXGVP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 01:11:21 EDT To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:13:03 -0700 Subject: Re: tiCKLe 3 (the Big One)! (bsp) Message-ID: <19990406.221417.-94987.7.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-14 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Demigod is a dope ass hardcore dj, and a hottie. There's a reason they call him Demigod. Peace, Theresa On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:14:36 EDT OoNOTlKo0@aol.com writes: >2 questions >1.) any idea where its gonna be at? ^_~ >2.) who's spinning hadrcore??? *pant pant pant* *DROOOL* > >-aaron > >if someone has a schedule itd be mucho appreciated too > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 05:26:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17347 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 05:26:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17123 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 05:26:38 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 05:26:38 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA67330 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:27:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from BigM009@aol.com) From: BigM009@aol.com Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vTIYa22363 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:21:07 EDT Subject: Re: spammin' n-stuff To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Terry and Brian. I respect your positions. And I do see your point of view. I happen to have another point of view but simply dont have the energy to debate right now. I do want to apologize to everyone on the list about my previous post. My verbiage was way out of line. I dont apologize for my position on the subject however. Its my point of view. But it was very wrong of me to let my emotions get the better of me and compromise the integrity of everyone who is a part of SFR. I wish everyone a peaceful exsistance. I ask nothing of anyone I wouldnt ask of myself. Open your minds and hearts. Peace is relative in ones own mind. Much peace and happiness, M PS If you need to know, Im extremely sore right now. I got my nipples pierced yesterday and just got in from the gym. Try working out with freshly pierced nipples and you'll understand why I have no energy to debate. My mind is somewhere else right now. PSS No flames please. Aaaaaaaaaahahahaha! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 05:27:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19465 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 05:27:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 19211 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 05:27:27 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 05:27:27 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vBONa21672 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:26:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:26:37 EDT Subject: B.S.P Bryan Lee in Colorado To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BryanLee21@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just letting people know just in Case anyone is going to Colorado for April 17th. I will be playing a couple of parties that weekend. Peace Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 05:28:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22833 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 05:28:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 22564 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 05:28:40 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 05:28:40 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vBAEa18303 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:27:41 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: <3c532867.243c46cd@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:27:41 EDT Subject: B.S.P Bryan Lee in Colorado To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BryanLee21@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just letting people know just in Case anyone is going to Colorado for April 17th. I will be playing a couple of parties that weekend. Peace Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 06:01:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12839 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 06:01:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 12827 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 06:01:27 -0000 Received: from f18.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 06:01:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 84370 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 06:01:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407060110.84369.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.171.134.229 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:01:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.171.134.229] From: "Beetle Juice" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Question??? Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:01:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Question? I know there out there. Could anyone let me know of any hoppin after hours hangouts in the area. Would be greatly appreciated. Just because the sun comes up doesn't mean I have to go home, so rumor has it. Sometimes I get my groove goin and I just cant stop. A wise man once said: That which does not kill you will only make you stonger. Conan The Barbarian Thanks for your help. Even if you can't, E-mail me anyways just to say Hi! Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 06:06:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14654 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 06:06:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14644 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 06:06:14 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.156) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 06:06:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 3360 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 06:05:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407060544.3359.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.159.178 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:05:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.159.178] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: who is going to the same party i went to... Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:05:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk who is going to the same party that i went to last week that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week be Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 06:12:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16842 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 06:12:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 16833 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 06:12:14 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 06:12:14 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vIMGa27420 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:10:55 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <78c7d73f.243c50ef@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:10:55 EDT Subject: tina is very happy!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok =) so i have to share this with all of you cuz u guyz are always there to listen in the bad times, so now that something great has happened, i thought i'd share!!! so today, i won $1000 from KMEL!!!! they said my name on the air and i had like 10 minutes to call back, i was out today but some random stranger, who happened to live in the town next to my lil town (castro valley) looked up my phone #, called, told my mom, gave her the #, and she called me, so i won... i am still in shock =) but the good thing is i was super broke and needed $ to pay my insurance, and now i can!!! i hope everyone had a simply beautiful day!!! see you all at tickle saturday nite!!!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 06:18:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21089 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 06:18:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 21061 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 06:18:12 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 06:18:12 -0000 Received: from 209.24.165.177 (dynamic49.pm07.san-jose.best.com [209.24.165.177]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id XAA06610 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370AF807.DD49C0AF@resourcerecords.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:15:36 -0700 From: The Accomplice Reply-To: chris@resourcerecords.com Organization: Resource Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 15 tapes turned into 25! It's magic....... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well....being one who doesn't like to disappoint, I upped the ante to 25! You guys need not send anymore requests cause I'm not taking anymore addresses. For those of you who didn't get a tape this time, I'll post the message for anything coming up at a decent hour(not 3 am again)!! be tech.... chris PS Where are all the techno dj's?? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 06:20:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22349 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 06:20:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 22340 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 06:20:11 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 06:20:11 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id 3AYZa07374 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:19:30 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: <76ca2f73.243c52f2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:19:30 EDT Subject: *********6flags******** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 6 FLAGS/MARINE WORLD THURSDAY APRIL 8TH 1999 TIME FOR FUN AND RIDES AND STUFF I FYOU R THINKING ABOUT GOIN TO CELEBRATE SPRING BREAK 99 EMAIL ME............SO I CAN LOOKF OR YOO THERE TRIXXXXE4@AOL.COM LOVE LINZ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 06:31:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28014 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 06:31:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 28001 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 06:31:16 -0000 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (206.13.28.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 06:31:16 -0000 Received: from fiveartists.com (ppp-206-170-29-199.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.29.199]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id XAA07841 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370AFAD6.2F7019FB@fiveartists.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:27:35 -0700 From: Nemo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: NRR: about IRC again... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey guyz... a few of you responded about IRC, and since most of you are on AOL, IM me about it, cuz it's MUCH easier to explain that way. Screen Name is "EVILNEM0" (zero, not an "O") talk to use all later!! i hope... =) ANton the glitter Panda From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 06:48:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3356 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 06:48:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 3336 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 06:47:58 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 06:47:58 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Tue Apr 6 23:47:17 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:47:17 -0800 From: "Ro mmel" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: The 1st jungle massive? X-Sender-Ip: 206.173.231.40 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if that jungle massive is still going on May 15th? I think it's called the Formula. I got the flyer from Quest, but I lost it. --- ---Rommel secretsauce@angelfire.com AOLIM: DaSaucey1 Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 07:20:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12861 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 07:20:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 12773 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 07:20:30 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 07:20:30 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vKGEa07377; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:19:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:19:45 EDT Subject: Re: Who all is going to HARMONY'S: "The Springtime Flower Festival!!!" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, dadope@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i am going to be at harmony also. i cant wait!! its gonna be a lot of fun! trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 07:22:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14381 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 07:22:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 14316 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 07:22:43 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 07:22:43 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vVUKa18465 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:22:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:22:10 EDT Subject: tickle 3!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk who is all going to go to tickle 3! i think this party is gonna be phat! i bought my ticket yesterday! i cant wait!! TO: ALIDA hey! are you going to be going to tickle?? call me! trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 07:45:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21410 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 07:45:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 21391 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 07:45:53 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 07:45:53 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vUYUa18302 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:44:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <3478d1e0.243c66e8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:44:40 EDT Subject: NEWBIE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just wanted to say hi to all of yous out there....i just added on the list..you guys send a lot of mail! Anyways did anyone go to the Gathering and if so what did you guys think. Greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 07:57:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24403 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 07:57:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 24395 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 07:57:39 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 07:57:39 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vJILa22321 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:56:47 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <377b2335.243c69bf@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:56:47 EDT Subject: Re: NEWBIE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HIYA!!!! welcome! {HUGZ} -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 08:09:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28223 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 08:09:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28214 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 08:09:27 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 08:09:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (blank@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19929; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blank@elephant.zo.com) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:09:22 -0700 (PDT) From: wEirdo To: Taiida@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Who all is going to HARMONY'S: "The Springtime Flower Festival!!!" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk :::raises hand::: I'll be there! =D BTW: Any chance laminates will be distributed at this party? ~wEirdo~ "Smile, it's free." ~Grivo (Bruce McCulloch) in { Kids in the Hall's Brain Candy} From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 08:16:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 592 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 08:16:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 571 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 08:16:41 -0000 Received: from tele.visi.com (HELO mail-out.visi.com) (209.98.98.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 08:16:41 -0000 Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3631F8AB for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:16:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from diogenes@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18989 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:16:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:16:30 -0500 From: Alex To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: live acts Message-ID: <19990407031630.O15374@isis.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, i'm still ignorant to a lot of what goes into the music of our scene. i just kindof dance to it, listen to it, and i always love it. but i'm afraid i just don't know that much about how it's made. anyways... my question: what's the deal with a live act. how is it different than a dj? what goes into it? equipment? thanks for the enlightenment. -a From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 12:00:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14408 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 12:00:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 14343 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 12:00:04 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?77txpG12+4aTStS733ZHrARQzU6WI2A0?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 12:00:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id EAA10695; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 04:59:57 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 04:59:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: dj _haK cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: who is going to the same party i went to... In-Reply-To: <19990407060544.3359.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dude. Where were you? We missed you tonight at that shit that happens a lot on nights that end in nights when it happens a lot on nights lot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens. 10-4, duh, max On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, dj _haK wrote: > who is going to the same party that i went to last week that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week > before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before > that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i > went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week > before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before > that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i > went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week > be > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 13:54:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11560 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 13:54:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 11552 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 13:54:00 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 13:54:00 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.160] (congo-81.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.81]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06299; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 06:53:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:13:45 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Wed) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... The average man does not know what to do with his life, yet wants another one which will last forever. ---Anatold France ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 14:45:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4809 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 14:45:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 4790 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 14:45:10 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 14:45:10 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vOYNa11892; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:44:36 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:44:36 EDT Subject: Re: tickle 3!!!! To: Kalika1196@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'll be there =) bought tix yesterday too!! =) love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/7/99 12:23:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Kalika1196@aol.com writes: << who is all going to go to tickle 3! i think this party is gonna be phat! i bought my ticket yesterday! i cant wait!! TO: ALIDA hey! are you going to be going to tickle?? call me! trisha >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 15:05:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17545 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 15:05:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 17536 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 15:05:30 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 15:05:30 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id iIHVa02338; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:38:19 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <377b1fe5.243cc7db@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:38:19 EDT Subject: Re: who is going to the same party i went to... To: dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'll be there!!! =) love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/6/99 11:06:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dj_hak@hotmail.com writes: << who is going to the same party that i went to last week that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week be Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 15:31:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28874 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 15:31:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 28856 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 15:31:45 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 15:31:45 -0000 Received: from shell.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA23601; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904071531.IAA23601@mail.netwiz.net> To: mike bolger Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , groovi-music@netwiz.net Subject: Derrick Carter at Pacific/J.L (was Re: that sunset party) In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:21:48 -0700 Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 08:31:30 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >had a lot of cholesterol, i guess you could say. very bloated and >heavy, but not really painfull or anything, just slightly unhealthy. >i'm more of a party snob than a music snob but it was one of those >nights where the music on the radio on the ride to the party is the >best thing you hear all night. some irish guys that i gave a lift back >to civilation called derik carter's set "yesterday's newspaper" but i >though it had it's moments. They must have gone to a different party than I did. Although I've seen DC tear the roof off in past performances, he didn't quite do it this time. But he still did a great job, and IMHO, was the only highlight of the night for me (Unfortunately, I missed Monty and Joe, who always play stuff I like.) I did think the vibe was completely dead when I got there. And the unnamed Pacific DJ's playing inside prior to D.C. did absolutely nothing to improve the situation. First, they played really boring, shitty music. Second, they couldn't keep a flow going to get people into a groove. This is not to say that the same Pacific DJ's haven't managed to rock it in the park or on a boat party, but they just weren't doing it last Saturday. Things finally came to life when D.C. came on, IMHO. And then, one hour into his set, just as he built up some "steam", the soundsystem quits on him for about 15 minutes. (What happened?). When he came back on, it was clear that he was too annoyed (the buzzing out of the stage-left channel didn't help) and his concentration was too interrupted to continue doing the do. SO the rest of his set, wasn't as inspired as it could have been, and this was understandable. You see, D.C. is like a huge freight train. It takes him an hour to get the party up to speed. Normally, he plays at least 2-3 hour sets and that's when he gets the train going at like 200MPH (e.g. his previous performances at DNA and Stompy). The Pacific/J.L. D.C. show only got up to about 60MPH because of (1) vibe-killing time-wasting music being played indoors prior to his set (they should've put Joe and Monty on inside prior to D.C.); (2) vibe-killing spring-break collegiate-looking crowd that is mostly indistinguishable from a random collegiate-looking concert-going crowd (mostly, i think their shoegazing would've been interrupted by better DJing prior to D.C.); (3) soundsystem failure 1/2 way through D.C.'s set; (4) general sucky/buzzy/overdriven quality of the soundsystem (i'm an audiophile, so shoot me) it wasn't horrible and was certainly listenable, but it lacked "definition" and sounded "bloated." When I heard the linup for this party, my first thought was "uh oh" :: too many DJ's and not enough time for Derrick Carter to tear down and rebuild the house. This proved true, especially w/ the soundsystem failure halfway through his set. So, incase anybody's listening, next time D.C. is in town, please have a party where he is on for at least three-four hours, and where the other DJ's playing before him are on the same level (even if they have different style). A dream lineup for such an event would be: Derrick Carter and Juan Atkins or Derrick Carter and Mark Grant, or Derrick Carter and Gene Farris, or ... (and I'm not dissing the sunset DJ's, it's just that there's an obvious vast difference between Albert Einstein and the local community college physiscs teacher). But quite franlkly, a better linup would have been D.C. on for four hours and no other DJ's other than those on the outside soundsystem. Overall, despite the negatives, I had a *great* time simply because I was given the opportunity to be in the presence of a master turntablist & DJ. (I was dancing and "trainspotting the DJ" for most of his performance near the stage-right speaker stacks with an excellent view of the decks). And if D.C's performance was "yesterday's newspaper" I couldn't give a fuck. I'd rather read yesterday's New York Times (aka D.C.) than today's National Enquirer (aka most of SF's Junior DJ's). This was my first time at Jelly's and I likeed the Venue a lot. Having an outside space/soundsystem with views of boats and water was very nice. And although it got hot and crowded, it wasn't unbearable (unlike the last Stompy). =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 15:38:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8045 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 15:38:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 7797 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 15:38:45 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 15:38:45 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vCDLa22321 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:37:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <377b9141.243cd5c1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:37:37 EDT Subject: Re: who is going to the same party i went to... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i decided top party to a different beat...at the CRAZY HORSE =) In a message dated 4/7/99 8:00:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: << Dude. Where were you? We missed you tonight at that shit that happens a lot on nights that end in nights when it happens a lot on nights lot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens alot on nights that end in nights when it happens. 10-4, duh, max On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, dj _haK wrote: > who is going to the same party that i went to last week that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week > before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before > that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i > went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week > before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before > that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i > went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week > be > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 15:51:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16875 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 15:51:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 16857 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 15:51:20 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 15:51:20 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id IAA19224; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990407155051.009c0768@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 08:50:51 -0700 To: The Red Stickman From: Isaac Labugen Subject: LOST & FOUND @ Children of the Sun Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Also, if you lost some keys- we found two sets. Please email me with descriptions and hopefully we can return them to there rightful owners. PS. Red Stickman (who i left off my thank you list?) is the most thoughtful individual I have met in some time. He was unable to attend the party (that's what happens when you drink too much at a BBQ), however called bright an early during post party to assist with CLEAN UP! YOU ARE AWESOME, and I just wanted everybody to know...(now all you other promoters can call him @ 6:00am). At 06:16 PM 4/6/99 -0700, you wrote: >A kind of backpacky-bag. We found it during clean up. > Please email me to identify it and the contents... > >Love, >Michael >o)-< > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 16:12:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 794 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 16:12:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 707 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 16:12:04 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 16:12:04 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA16890 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:12:01 -0700 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:54:47 -0700 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB919@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: anyone going to discovery?? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:54:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk was just wondering of anyone is going to discovery in santa rosa on thursday night?? maybe meet some list peoples there before flying out for a bunch of weeks. thanx eric j From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 16:21:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5715 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 16:21:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 5693 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 16:21:32 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 16:21:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407162430.6314.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:24:30 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:24:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: anyone going to discovery?? To: Eric Jones , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its between Eklektik or Discovery for me, Ryan Vs. Wilbur has me on the discovery side alittle... Jessica --- Eric Jones wrote: > was just wondering of anyone is going to discovery > in santa rosa on thursday > night?? maybe meet some list peoples there before > flying out for a bunch of > weeks. thanx > eric j > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 16:37:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19288 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 16:37:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 19030 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 16:37:09 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 16:37:09 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.15] (crai.com [207.180.76.15]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04718; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.15] via smtpd (for charity.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 16:43:49 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:36:37 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'Jess ica'" , Eric Jones , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: anyone going to discovery?? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:36:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk same here. right now i'm leaning toward discovery, but nothing's sure until tomorrow evening. loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Jess ica [SMTP:thatpisces@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:25 AM > To: Eric Jones; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: anyone going to discovery?? > > Its between Eklektik or Discovery for me, Ryan Vs. Wilbur has me on the > discovery side alittle... > > Jessica > --- Eric Jones wrote: > > was just wondering of anyone is going to discovery > > in santa rosa on thursday > > night?? maybe meet some list peoples there before > > flying out for a bunch of > > weeks. thanx > > eric j > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 17:07:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11263 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 17:07:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 11249 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:07:15 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:07:15 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vIGa011768; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:05:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <29756513.243cea55@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:05:25 EDT Subject: Re: NEWBIE To: MIB271@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Bien Benidos! Get ready for an interesting ride: And BTW, was it just me or did I actually see some RR posts on the list today? Mmmmm. Peace M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 17:16:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17370 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 17:16:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17328 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:16:01 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:16:01 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vKVa019350 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:15:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:15:14 EDT Subject: Need help on Glo Stix To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone. I know this sounds dumb but oh well. Do any of you know where to find friggin glo stix?? I swear cause all the stores I go to either don't have them or they sold out. So if you could help me and tell me where I could find some that would be great!! =) thanks Oh ya even where to find the glowing necklaces. Thanks alot Kent!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 17:21:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19128 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 17:21:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 19118 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:21:09 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:21:09 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vOOCa00552 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:20:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:20:32 EDT Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HI :) usually i get my glostix from the army surplus store.. name the color they got it.. i love that store , the one i go to is in san jose;) anyways, u can also get some tight ass glowy stuff , im getting the glow in the dark pacifier and the teletubbie necklace.. POE :), on this website.. i already ordered some stuff for the rave next weekend :) PLUR valerie here's the website.. enjoy http://www.pureacidmixtapes.com/necklaces/index.htm From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 17:26:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22833 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 17:26:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 22642 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:26:07 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:26:07 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id iZEEa22361; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:30:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:30:05 EDT Subject: Re: who is going to the same party i went to... To: dj_hak@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/7/99 2:06:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dj_hak@hotmail.com writes: << who is going to the same party that i went to last week that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week be >> not me...i have to work. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 17:27:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25020 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 17:27:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24638 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:27:07 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:27:06 -0000 Received: from ntyolanda (209-239-198-222.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.222]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17558; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003601be811b$c72a2280$66019665@ntyolanda> From: "Jay" To: , References: Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:26:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You can get glow sticks at any store that sells supplies (like Kmart or whatever), but if you want to get a good deal on them, take your happy butt to a surplus store, military surplus to be more exact. They have tons of them, and they are pretty reasonable. The only problem is the color selection is somewhat limited... but oh well =) -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 10:15 AM Subject: Need help on Glo Stix > Hey everyone. I know this sounds dumb but oh well. Do any of you know where > to find friggin glo stix?? I swear cause all the stores I go to either don't > have them or they sold out. So if you could help me and tell me where I could > find some that would be great!! =) thanks Oh ya even where to find the > glowing necklaces. > > Thanks alot > > Kent!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 17:40:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5199 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 17:40:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5090 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:40:05 -0000 Received: from web703.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:40:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407174049.28658.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.145] by web703.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:40:49 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:40:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: NRR: Alternate Quote of the Day To: sfr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alternate Quote of the Day: "Tantra, baby." === don't love until you love yourself don't give unless it's free... Alex the Happy Raver From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 17:49:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9303 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 17:49:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 9267 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:48:57 -0000 Received: from galaxy.galstar.com (anarchy@204.251.80.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:48:57 -0000 Received: (from anarchy@localhost) by galaxy.galstar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA16131 f0r sfraves@hyperreal.org; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:48:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "U.A.A." Posted-Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:48:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199904071748.MAA16131@galaxy.galstar.com> Subject: Just an observation ..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:48:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have been reading more and more of peoples posts as of late, And this is what I have to say. 1. Think before you write. 2. Make sure you have all the facts straight. 3. And please be consistant! 1. Think about something before you write/send it out. A few minutes of proof reading or just time to collect your thoughts and settle down, can save you a lot of face and back track time. Well thought out posts and letters always do a better job getting your message across to your intended audience. 2. Be well informed and know the facts. Nothing is worse posting to a list (or the entire world), how ignorant you are on a topic. It only takes a few minutes to research a topic or subject. Also don't just post on a topic unless you have some expressed interest or knowledge. And if you have an interest, make it a point to get all the information before hand. Again this will only help you get your point across and will make people actually read what you have to say. That is the whole point right? To have people read/listen to what you ahve to say. Who wants to read emails all day from people who have no clue what they are talking about. If you haven't yet, please read Terry's post again. 3. Please be consistant. One sure way to make sure listens to what you have to say is to be inconsistant. I am going to use the recent SPAM thread as an example. A lot of people replied with the general consent "Delete it. its just one email. Get over it and move on." This is fine, until after a while and the thread gets old and tired. Then the general consent is "please take this offline, etc...." So people, this is my question to you. Where is this threshold?! One unwanted email is okay, because you can delete it, but 20 unwanted emails is too many, and I'd rather not get any at all. This is the point I am trying to make. You gripe because one person set his threshold at 1 email. Then after a thread explodes, and you gripe again because email you don't want to read is cluttering your inbox. Your threshold has been reached. So if you think that filters and the delete key solves all your problems. That is fine. Just don't complain how all this email keeps piling up in your inbox. If 20 emails is too many, then be more respectful and understanding to those who think 1 email is too many. --Herb ------------------------------------------------------------------- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 17:54:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15129 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 17:54:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 15118 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:54:52 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:54:52 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10656; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:54:40 -0700 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:49:15 -0700 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB91B@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'Comolli, Loic'" , "'Jess ica'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org, "'fiercefigs@aol.com'" Subject: meeting at discovery?? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:49:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk how about a meeting spot??? anyone know the location?? eric j -----Original Message----- From: Comolli, Loic [mailto:LXC@crai.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:37 AM To: 'Jess ica'; Eric Jones; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: anyone going to discovery?? same here. right now i'm leaning toward discovery, but nothing's sure until tomorrow evening. loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Jess ica [SMTP:thatpisces@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:25 AM > To: Eric Jones; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: anyone going to discovery?? > > Its between Eklektik or Discovery for me, Ryan Vs. Wilbur has me on the > discovery side alittle... > > Jessica > --- Eric Jones wrote: > > was just wondering of anyone is going to discovery > > in santa rosa on thursday > > night?? maybe meet some list peoples there before > > flying out for a bunch of > > weeks. thanx > > eric j > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 17:57:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17914 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 17:57:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 17895 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 17:57:39 -0000 Received: from galvatron.vile.org (root@209.31.32.128) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:57:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (nick@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by galvatron.vile.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01702; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:57:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:57:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick To: Gammbino@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I get all mine at http://www.glowsticks.com (no joke!) They have fast online ordering of all kinds of cool stuff (even 15" sticks if you want to get super crazy). I usually get them within 3-4 days. -Nick On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Hey everyone. I know this sounds dumb but oh well. Do any of you know where > to find friggin glo stix?? I swear cause all the stores I go to either don't > have them or they sold out. So if you could help me and tell me where I could > find some that would be great!! =) thanks Oh ya even where to find the > glowing necklaces. > > Thanks alot > > Kent!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:03:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22782 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:03:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 22744 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:03:39 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:03:39 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id fHUFa19350; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:44:25 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <2f08f284.243cf379@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:44:25 EDT Subject: Re: live acts To: diogenes@visi.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/7/99 1:16:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, diogenes@visi.com writes: << ok, i'm still ignorant to a lot of what goes into the music of our scene. i just kindof dance to it, listen to it, and i always love it. but i'm afraid i just don't know that much about how it's made. anyways... my question: what's the deal with a live act. how is it different than a dj? what goes into it? equipment? thanks for the enlightenment. >> A dj is usually your typical person up on turntables spinning rekkids that were produced by different artists. A live act can be one or more people actually creating the tracks that you hear on the rekkids live in front of everyone at a party. A good example of a live act would be Chemical Brothers, Green Velvet, or most recently Nostrum at F-8 (correct me if I'm wrong about Nostrum) i think Live acts are fun once in a while, because they add a different atmosphere to the party. The problem is that they are closer to a band than a DJ and therefore the focus is on watching them. ANd I don't know, but watching someone fuck with a switchboard gets kind of boring after a while. but I saw Green Velvet live and it was SO much fuN!! I love his wig... "Camera's ready.... prepare to flash!" hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:04:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24186 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:04:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 24093 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:04:30 -0000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:04:30 -0000 Received: from gpxl.earthlink.net (2Cust72.tnt20.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.254.225.72]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25422; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001d01be8120$5c6c71a0$0201a8c0@earthlink.net> From: "Gerlando Piro" To: , , Subject: Re: who is going to the same party i went to... Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:59:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Work on the weekend??? How barbaric! -G. > the week before that i went to the week before that i went to the week > be > >> > >not me...i have to work. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:06:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26947 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:06:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26766 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:06:29 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:06:29 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07241 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA18372 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:04:48 GMT Message-ID: <023b01be8121$f1ee9040$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> From: "Mook" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: Permitting parties? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:10:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just curious if anybody knows what's involved in getting an all nite permit for a small venue (300-500 people). Approximate $$. Do they give out permits like that? etc. I'm just curious as our selction of venues is decreasing rapidly, and I'm wondering where we're gonna go when the venues we do have are gone. =) M<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:07:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28042 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:07:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 27935 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:07:19 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (nuku@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:07:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (nuku@localhost) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA02495; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:07:01 -0700 (PDT) From: EDDIE ADAMS To: Gammbino@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ya know who really has a lot of glowsticks is that boy Starpro aka Peter. He's a glowstick junkie whore you might say ....ask him. Nuku On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Hey everyone. I know this sounds dumb but oh well. Do any of you know where > to find friggin glo stix?? I swear cause all the stores I go to either don't > have them or they sold out. So if you could help me and tell me where I could > find some that would be great!! =) thanks Oh ya even where to find the > glowing necklaces. > > Thanks alot > > Kent!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:10:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 375 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:10:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 358 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:10:12 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:10:12 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07422 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA18578 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:08:38 GMT Message-ID: <023c01be8122$7ad4f340$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> From: "Mook" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: Music suggestions? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:14:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey anybody got any music suggestions lately? I'm looking for really good trippy downtempo music (ie- blue room stuff) Also trying lookin for some trance with good rolling bass lines, and really good percussion (not standard tst-boom-tst-boom-tst) Not too synth-y yet not overkill on the NRG sounds either. Any other suggestions are appreciated but these are my main focus. Oh yeah prefered medium is 12" vinyl baby, if you hadn't figured that out of course ;-) =) MooK<>< ps- yes I am just trying to spark some constructive discussions, but hey maybe it'll work and I can get some worthwhile info out of it too. =P From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:10:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 704 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:10:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407181023.703.qmail@hyperreal.org> Received: (qmail 634 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:10:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO europa.ikonic.com) (205.139.115.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:10:19 -0000 Received: from khong ([205.139.115.160]) by europa.ikonic.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11965) with SMTP id AAA121; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:13:03 -0700 X-Sender: ki@cloudfactory.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 11:06:06 -0700 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com From: Ki Subject: Re: spammin' n-stuff Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <923447666.1862.830@excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey leslie, come one now, i respect your wise words way too much not to reply to anything you write me. i never received anything from you tho' and yes i have written back everysingle person. what addy did you send it to? could you send it again. thanks. hope your doing well. >i responded privately to vlad and ki originally about the shit-slinging >going on (and, ki, though you said you've responded to everyone who >responded to you, i didn't get anything .... ) > >but... as a general topic, this spam issue is pretty interesting... i mean, >in the world of snailmail, we generally all get mass mailings from different >sources... and i doubt if people go ballistic about it... they simply choose >to toss it out, or notify the sender to take them off their list. > >and if someone hands you a flyer at a party, you say yes, or no, or save and >read it later... don't think i've ever seen someone start taking legal >action to stop that person from handing out their flyers. (mr officer... >that man tried to hand me a piece of paper!!) > >to me, sending a raver a notice about a rave is not spam... and that's not >what the regulations about spamming were meant to cover, don't you think?... >there is no personal infringement, and i get things several times a week on >sfraves that are sent to me because i am a member of sfraves, a public >list... i know they're separate because i subscribe to the digest, and any >other posts than the twice-or-three-times a day digests come from >elsewhere. > >that's how mailing list development works in the world of marketing.... >people who have shown an interest in a certain product, leisure activity, >whatever, get added to the list... > >so i'm trying hard to imagine what would set me off enough to make a public >case, and to try to shut down someone's email account... can't think of how >i could get that upset about it... > >so i have to think that there's some other agenda... and whatever it is.... >listen to that sucking sound of precious hours of several people's lives >disappearing. > >pretty scary. phred, thanks for your rational input... and ki, please send >vlad the pertinent info so he can get you off his lists, and we can get over >this crap. > >see y'all at ComeUnity tomorrow night... > >leslie > > > > >Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:16:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3709 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:16:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 3698 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:16:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:16:12 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id A177C420154; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:18:31 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "Mook" , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: Music suggestions? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:00:24 -0700 Message-ID: <000301be8120$82ca86c0$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <023c01be8122$7ad4f340$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk check out underworld's new album, beaucoup fish. it has some fluid slamming tracks, which were missing from previous albums. it was their b-sides and limited singles that really slammed, like cherry pie. you can't get better than cherry pie. i posted a review of BF, cups, the first track, really gets trancey at the end. should be a single for it soon, but i think jumbo may be before that. king of snake would be a great tune to spin, a lot of the euro-talent like carl cox spun king of snake quite a bit. true, it's not your typical trance stuff, mook-y, but it's definately not to be taken lightly. =) Your Jedi Bitch, Jedi666Boy -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Mook Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 11:14 AM To: Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Subject: Music suggestions? Hey anybody got any music suggestions lately? I'm looking for really good trippy downtempo music (ie- blue room stuff) Also trying lookin for some trance with good rolling bass lines, and really good percussion (not standard tst-boom-tst-boom-tst) Not too synth-y yet not overkill on the NRG sounds either. Any other suggestions are appreciated but these are my main focus. Oh yeah prefered medium is 12" vinyl baby, if you hadn't figured that out of course ;-) =) MooK<>< ps- yes I am just trying to spark some constructive discussions, but hey maybe it'll work and I can get some worthwhile info out of it too. =P From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:20:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7092 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:20:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 7077 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:20:21 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:20:21 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07858; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA19184; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:18:37 GMT Message-ID: <025101be8123$e02397a0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> From: "Mook" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" , "TeKnODiVa" Subject: Re: live acts Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:24:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com To: diogenes@visi.com Cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 11:03 AM Subject: Re: live acts >Live acts are fun once in a while, because they add a different atmosphere to >the party. >The problem is that they are closer to a band than a DJ and therefore the >focus is on watching them. ANd I don't know, but watching someone fuck with >a switchboard gets kind of boring after a while. I need to let you listen to my Captain Tinrib Live CD cuz it is one of the best trance set's I've ever heard. Way better than most DJ'ed sets. After listening to it I would find it hard to believe that people would be focusing on him instead of dancing their ass off. Note: If any of you promoters out their are interested in importing some amazing European Talent, please consider the Captain. You only need to listen to him once to know that he will blow everyone at your party away. =) M<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:22:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9265 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:22:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 9111 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:22:36 -0000 Received: from law-f29.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.92) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:22:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 28689 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 18:22:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407182202.28688.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:22:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: Gammbino@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:22:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk two good places to look are scuba stores and any surplus stores. Scuba stores are cool cause thats where you can find like the 15" stiks. Although I think at that length it's more of a glo rod or a glo staff isn't it? 8^P~ ~~* -enjoy John Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:28:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12870 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:28:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 12851 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:28:40 -0000 Received: from tracker-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO tracker.excite.com) (198.3.99.217) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:28:40 -0000 Received: from pouch.excite.com ([199.172.152.242]) by tracker.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990407182801.QNXX18860.tracker@pouch.excite.com>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:28:01 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: "Brian Behlendorf" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: spammin' n-stuff Message-Id: <923509681.29829.327@excite.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:28:01 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Let me put it another way. Many of us remember how the Internet was > before spam, ... brian, you point out some very important things that i can see are important and offer a different perspective -- as the internet grows, we need to make new rules to cover these new ways of communications.... and how to handle the new ways to abuse these tools.... and though i am not involved in internet commerce as my profession, i absolutely defer to those who are to create the "rules and regulations" that will balance the needs of all sides.... if everyone is as reasonable as you, we're in good hands... but i hope we leave room for the reality that, in an situation where there are "rules"... we always benefit by reminding ourselves of what those rules are made to accomplish... and recognizing when there is gray area.... the difference between "the letter of the law" and "the intention of the law" ... which as in any legal area, is complex... maybe i'm just lucky... i've had corporate email accounts, i've had personal email accounts... and i have never felt victimized by spam in any way... maybe i just don't peruse sites that would add my name to some unwanted porn lists (hmmm, where do i have to go to get those??)... so i don't perceive spam as a big problem to me... and i still don't think that a focused and directed mailing via email is much different to me -- as a consumer, not as an isp -- than junk mail in my mailbox... though it wastes bandwidth instead of trees... annoying, maybe.... criminal, don't want to make that leap. and on the pay-as-you-go-side.... i do think that mass mailings probably *should* cost a sender a few cents though... a regular mailer costs design, printing, paper and postage... and so marketers evaluate cost and benefitand return on investment.... it's probably time for that in the world of internet commerce as well.. and again, i'm not sure that the vigor with which this specific incident was pursued didn't have some other agenda... and your suggestions to vlad about ways to manage his email mailings are good and i'm sure he appreciates them. so... anyway... love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:33:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17030 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:33:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 16796 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:33:09 -0000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:33:09 -0000 Received: from gpxl.earthlink.net (2Cust72.tnt20.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.254.225.72]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13449; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004d01be8124$68d8d880$0201a8c0@earthlink.net> From: "Gerlando Piro" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: live acts Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:27:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think the Chemical Bros. would be a BAD example of a live act. From what I've seen they press play and pretend to rock out for 45min. Same goes for BT, he twiddles with one knob on his Prophecy while the rest is run off a sequencer. -Gerlando. >A good example of a live act would be Chemical Brothers, Green Velvet, or >most recently Nostrum at F-8 (correct me if I'm wrong about Nostrum) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:33:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17748 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:33:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 17588 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:33:31 -0000 Received: from tracker-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO tracker.excite.com) (198.3.99.217) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:33:31 -0000 Received: from batty.excite.com ([199.172.152.107]) by tracker.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990407183252.QPLQ18860.tracker@batty.excite.com> for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:32:52 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: spammin' n-stuff Message-Id: <923509972.19406.344@excite.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:32:52 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk somebody asked me this personally, but i think it's worth a public response (in case you lost your "welcome" stuff from the list) > hey, not to sound dumb, but what exactly is the digest > version of sfr? > the digest version is a compilation of posts to the list that kicks out two or three times a day (when its busy) or maybe once a day (on a weekend)... it's one long list of all the posts.... and to me, is a great tool to a) save time opening post after post or choosing what to read or not... i just scroll down and speed-read, stopping at things i care about.... and b) it gives an interesting arm's length perspective... since it's harder to just hit "reply" and dash of some crazy response to someone before you see the responses or think about what you're really saying... the down side is you only get it when the size of the compilation reaches a certain critical mass.. so there's a delay of at least several hours usually... hmmmm.. maybe that's NOT a down side! anyway.... to do it you unsVb the regular list ... and svb to the digest... check hyperreal for instructions for what to send to the majordomo.... leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:35:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20520 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:35:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 20447 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:35:43 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:35:43 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id 7FRTa19350; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:34:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <76cc0c46.243cff2a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:34:18 EDT Subject: Re: Just an observation ..... To: anarchy@galaxy.galstar.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks Herb. I know Im guilty. When is my hanging? Peace M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:36:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22175 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:36:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 22011 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:36:41 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:36:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407184040.22940.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:40:40 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:40:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Favorite LIVE acts of my ravin' history To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, diogenes@visi.com Cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Since I have been going to parties for a year now, and live acts have always been my favorite, I will share MY favorite live acts this year: in no particular order: Protolab-at the Rotation party in Sunnyvale, pumpin hard D&B beats 2 seconds away from my office!! Couldnt beat it. Astral Matrix-Epiphany-Oops Wrong Planet! uuuhhhh the techno he through out was so awesome, I dont know how many times I screamed while he was playing, he had a guitar, and was going off! The power even went out during his performance, he rocked!! Astral Matrix-Gateway-Horizon- Welp, he blew my mind once, and when I found out he was gonna be at this party, I was SO THERE. Loved the wig. WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE< CHECK HIM OUT!!!!! AndyW-Harmony-I got to the party when he first started performing in the chill room, this created such a wonderful experience for me, that I didnt leave that room all night long. It seemed like he was playing the mood of that room, its hard to explain, but I danced the whole time during his performance, and discovered how spiritual that type of music can be, when you can tell someone is pouring there heart into there music, and having so much fun at it, its a beautiful moment. Galactic Dreamspell-Harmony-So I am dancin still in the chill room, the time is now 5 in the morning and I am enjoying a very nice downtempo beat, with beautiful, and I mean ANGELIC voice creating the most positive vibe, singing words of knowledge, and love, little do I know that this sweet angel is standing in my presence singing her heart out LIVE! Do you know how amazing that was? Terri knows ;) I know there are many more live acts out there from all around that I have yet to experience, these are the ones that made an impact on my mind, and I will never forget them. Peace, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:43:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1840 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:43:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 1631 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:43:21 -0000 Received: from law-f181.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.244) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:43:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24008 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 18:42:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407184239.24007.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.196.204.172 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:42:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.196.204.172] From: "michael waldren" To: gpxl@pcgr.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: live acts Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:42:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk KRS-1 is a bomb ass live show. they will both be at metropolis in may and i cant wait. it is going to be so god damn ghetto though. Did anyone go to cyberfest for Run-DMC. It will be another one of those.OH well i still would not miss it for the world. Peace from " your everyday junglist" Mikey >From: "Gerlando Piro" >To: , >CC: >Subject: Re: live acts >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:27:59 -0700 > >I think the Chemical Bros. would be a BAD example of a live act. From what >I've seen they press play and pretend to rock out for 45min. Same goes for >BT, he twiddles with one knob on his Prophecy while the rest is run off a >sequencer. > >-Gerlando. > >>A good example of a live act would be Chemical Brothers, Green Velvet, or >>most recently Nostrum at F-8 (correct me if I'm wrong about Nostrum) > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 18:50:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16243 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 18:50:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 16140 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 18:50:09 -0000 Received: from f226.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 18:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 78642 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 18:49:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407184937.78641.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:49:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Live act thread Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:49:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk RITM Nuff said.. I don't care if they have been doing the same act for the past 5 years they fucking rock!! Look for them real soon.. Keep you ear to the ground on that one.. Peaces, Macadio Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 19:00:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5303 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 19:00:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5225 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:00:16 -0000 Received: from galaxy.galstar.com (anarchy@204.251.80.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:00:16 -0000 Received: (from anarchy@localhost) by galaxy.galstar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA28624 f0r sfraves@hyperreal.org; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:00:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "U.A.A." Posted-Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199904071900.OAA28624@galaxy.galstar.com> Subject: NRR: Real internet accounts To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:00:13 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The Internet is a relatively young and new way tool for communication. It has never been easier to find information or keep in contact with friends. That is the beauty of it. And this is what I say to you. If you only have a Hotmail, Prodigy, or AOL account, seriously consider finding a real ISP in your area and get an account. Why should it matter? This is why. If you are going to be an active part of the online community, then commit yourself to an account. Support the Internet by supporting one of the ISP's that makes up the Internet. Become a Netizen. Contrary to popular belief. Al Gore did not create the Internet nor did AOL have any part of it. AOL existed outside of the Internet for many years, and if for some reason the Internet disappeared tomorrow, AOL would still have their own active network. Having a real ISP account shows and says that you have an active interest in the Internet, and are willing to keep it alive. The Internet is relatively young and new. Rules and standards we set today will most likely define how the Internet will be used in the future. We need to be pro-active about this, instead of waiting for someone else to do it. Especially when there is no one else. If we the users of the Internet don't take control, then it is going to be people who DON'T user it who are going to make all the rules. It is more than just a way to get email and surf pr0n sites. It really is the last bastion of freedom and liberties in the world. Where else in the world can you make a website, saying almost anything you want, and have people come toyou to hear (read) what you have to say. Did you know there are Judges out there, who don't own a computer, and have never used the Internet before, making decisions on Internet Law! They are setting precedence on a subject they know nothing about. Learn about what really goes on and then spread that knowledge to your friends and family. Understand yourself, then help others understand as well. There are still millions of people out there who don't have email address, and even more who do, but still don't know how to use it or surf the web. Knowledge is power. = ) You all are in positions to be teachers to those less informed. I don't like AOL nor do I use it, but it does have it's place. AOL reaches millions of people and gets them their first experience on the Internet. But I look at it like training wheels for the Internet. And I think that for it's time for some of you to take off those training wheels. Another way to be an good Netizen is to support good websites. If you find a website you like a lot, don't just bookmark it. Send it to friends and family. Click on their banners to help fund the site. Things like that. You might think it doesn't make a difference, but it does! Essentially be a participant. Why wait for someone else to make a change when you can do it yourself! If none of this interests you and you are content with what you have, thats fine too. Just don't expect much in return from the Internet and it's netizens. --Herb ------------------------------------------------------------------- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 19:06:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11327 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 19:06:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 11296 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:06:15 -0000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:06:15 -0000 Received: from gpxl.earthlink.net (2Cust72.tnt20.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.254.225.72]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07421; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <008301be8129$05b5df00$0201a8c0@earthlink.net> From: "Gerlando Piro" To: "Macadio G." , Subject: Re: Live act thread Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:00:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OH yeah, RITM is one of the best live acts I've ever seen. Damn that must have been 2 years ago... anyone feel like bringing them out again?? -Gerlando. ----- Original Message ----- From: Macadio G. To: Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 11:49 AM Subject: Live act thread >RITM Nuff said.. > >I don't care if they have been doing the same act for the past 5 >years they fucking rock!! Look for them real soon.. Keep you ear to >the ground on that one.. > >Peaces, >Macadio > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 19:08:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13583 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 19:08:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 13541 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:08:22 -0000 Received: from f297.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.189) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:08:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 25439 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 19:07:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407190755.25438.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:07:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (late )Children of the sun review Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:07:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well what can be said? It was a good party that was well planned out. the DJ's rocked like always nice solid lineup haven't heard the Tekno maniac AndyW play in a while so the ten minutes that I did catch was pretty kewl. Greg was throwing down a good mix of Tekno->trance-> and house kind of weird yet smooth fusion mix. Thomas was laying down the trance stuff like he does.. not too crowded at least as long as I was there. Got to see at the table and talk to Andy and Vertigo talk about random crazy stuff. See ya all at the Next children of the sun party these kids heads are in the right place.. Thanks for inviting me Isaac see ya, Macadio (Teknotika) Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 19:10:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15891 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 19:10:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 15849 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from f251.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.142) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 83057 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 19:09:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407190942.83056.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:09:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: gpxl@pcgr.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Live act thread Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:09:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well all I can say is keep a look out and watch what you wish for cause you just may get it ;-) Peaces, Macadio >From: "Gerlando Piro" >To: "Macadio G." , >Subject: Re: Live act thread >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:00:59 -0700 > >OH yeah, RITM is one of the best live acts I've ever seen. Damn that must >have been 2 years ago... anyone feel like bringing them out again?? > >-Gerlando. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Macadio G. >To: >Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 11:49 AM >Subject: Live act thread > > >>RITM Nuff said.. >> >>I don't care if they have been doing the same act for the past 5 >>years they fucking rock!! Look for them real soon.. Keep you ear to >>the ground on that one.. >> >>Peaces, >>Macadio >> >>Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 19:28:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4367 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 19:28:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 4357 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:28:06 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:28:06 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vHWTa26907 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:26:43 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <3112c215.243d0b73@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:26:43 EDT Subject: NRR: Please send some good vibes!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone, I'm having a pretty crappy day. I have to wear a heart monitor and see doctors and all sorts of crazy stuff, to see if I have a heart defect. It is probably nothing but it is scary and getting me down anyway. If you guys could send me some good vibes it would be much appreciated!! Things like this make you realize how delicate your body is and how we should all treat it good, because we only have ONE! Anyway, thanks everyone for listening to me! You all are such great people. I'll see you at tickle. Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 19:35:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10897 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 19:35:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 10881 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:35:03 -0000 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (17.254.0.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:35:03 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09586 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:28:47 -0700 Received: from scv4.apple.com (scv4.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (mailgate2.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:28:38 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv4.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA53428 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:27:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199904071927.MAA53428@scv4.apple.com> Subject: Re: Permitting parties? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:28:37 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, Mook there's a secret here... I've been looking at locations for sometime and I've found one pre-permitted space, good to go till 5 or 6... no possibility of a bust. I'm still trying to get a price, it'll probably be around 4000- the space holds 900 peeps! You figure out the Math :) On 4/7/99 11:10 AM Mook wrote: >I was just curious if anybody knows what's involved in getting an all >nite permit for a small venue (300-500 people). Approximate $$. Do they >give out permits like that? etc. > >I'm just curious as our selction of venues is decreasing rapidly, and >I'm wondering where we're gonna go when the venues we do have are gone. > >=) >M<>< > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 19:54:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23901 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 19:54:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 23892 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:54:37 -0000 Received: from law-f151.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.214) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:54:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 54313 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 19:54:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407195410.54312.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:54:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: anarchy@galaxy.galstar.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Real internet accounts Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:54:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I already have an ISP but this mail service is useful in many ways. The reason I use hotmail primarily, is that SFR has a lot of traffic and the topics are sometimes rather controversial in many ways. I can't use a work address because these sometimes are topics i cannot have coming into the workplace since work email everywhere can be legally monitored and read. Also having a hotmail account allows me to check for messages in multiple locations since my network at work will not allow me to dial out to an ISP. It's nice to go to a remote terminal at a coffee shop or something and be able to check for mail because it is web based. Part of being on the internet is using its available resources. The internet isn't going anywhere. However there are going to be a lot of changes in the internet soon. John Chambers, CEO of Cisco systems, has taken it upon himself to create a new internet which he wants to call Internet 2.0. Who knows what this will bring? Although it is a neccessity to have an internet overhaul (the world is running out of IP addresses) we must be careful where this takes us. I dont neccessarily want Cisco to be the internet big brother. It is true that the Internet is the last frontier of TRUE free expression and we need to cling to that. Already there's many attempts to restrict our freedom of speech. Fox networks went on a crusade a little while back to eliminate all fan sites to their programming. People with Simpson's, X-files, King of the Hill and other fan sites which are un-official were threatened with legal action if they would not remove their references. These people were making no money off of these sites, just saying :"I like this show" In essence a mere presence on the internet is important. If you have only a hotmail account, you have a voice. If you go to geocities and/or tripod.com, you can create a website and voice your views to the world. Not everyone can afford the cost of internet access so they have to use what they can use, even if it is only at the library, school, or coffee shop. Use the internet for what you need it for, and keep free expression free. When the corporate world gets complete control of the internet, that'll be the end of the new frontier. Just as the internet is a tool, there are those who would use it as a weapon -Enjoy John Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 20:08:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3571 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 20:08:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 3557 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:08:28 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:08:28 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id nQFQa24540; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:42:59 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <2491140c.243d0f43@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:42:59 EDT Subject: Re: anyone going to discovery?? To: EricJ@foxracing.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk was thinking about going to discovery!! BUt i dont know if i have the money! anyone else? greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 20:10:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5284 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 20:10:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5269 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:10:17 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:10:17 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vXMAa02374 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:37:18 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <3306a66c.243d0dee@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:37:18 EDT Subject: GLOWTICKS To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HOW MUCH DO YOU GUYS SPEND ON ONE GLOWSTICK......i want to see if i am getting ripped off!!!! GReg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 20:11:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6840 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 20:11:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 6832 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:11:17 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:11:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407201108.380.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.100.191.230] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:11:08 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:11:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Free ISP! Re: NRR: Real internet accounts To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh, and for those that cant afford an ISP, there is a free one. go to www.netzero.com, it works, I have used it. The only thing that sucks is that there is a tiny popup that is ALWAYS on your screen, but you can move it around and stuff. Steve =) PS - When I tried downloading the one file, netzero.exe, I had problems, download the threedisks file, or the file that refers to disks. Hope that helps! --- Wil Hanno wrote: > I already have an ISP but this mail service is > useful in many ways. > The reason I use hotmail primarily, is that SFR has > a lot of traffic > and the topics are sometimes rather controversial in > many ways. I > can't use a work address because these sometimes are > topics i cannot > have coming into the workplace since work email > everywhere can be > legally monitored and read. > Also having a hotmail account allows me to check for > messages in > multiple locations since my network at work will not > allow me to dial > out to an ISP. It's nice to go to a remote terminal > at a coffee shop > or something and be able to check for mail because > it is web based. > > Part of being on the internet is using its available > resources. > > The internet isn't going anywhere. However there are > going to be a > lot of changes in the internet soon. > > John Chambers, CEO of Cisco systems, has taken it > upon himself to > create a new internet which he wants to call > Internet 2.0. Who knows > what this will bring? Although it is a neccessity to > have an internet > overhaul (the world is running out of IP addresses) > we must be > careful where this takes us. I dont neccessarily > want Cisco to be the > internet big brother. > > It is true that the Internet is the last frontier of > TRUE free > expression and we need to cling to that. Already > there's many > attempts to restrict our freedom of speech. Fox > networks went on a > crusade a little while back to eliminate all fan > sites to their > programming. People with Simpson's, X-files, King of > the Hill and > other fan sites which are un-official were > threatened with legal > action if they would not remove their references. > These people were > making no money off of these sites, just saying :"I > like this show" > > In essence a mere presence on the internet is > important. If you have > only a hotmail account, you have a voice. If you go > to geocities > and/or tripod.com, you can create a website and > voice your views to > the world. Not everyone can afford the cost of > internet access so > they have to use what they can use, even if it is > only at the > library, school, or coffee shop. Use the internet > for what you need > it for, and keep free expression free. When the > corporate world gets > complete control of the internet, that'll be the end > of the new > frontier. > > Just as the internet is a tool, there are those who > would use it as a > weapon > > -Enjoy > John > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 20:29:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23417 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 20:29:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23337 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:29:13 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:29:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407203225.3057.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:32:25 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:32:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: anyone going to discovery?? To: ShockVibe@aol.com, sfraves@HYPERREAL.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I meant Walker vs Wilbur, not Ryan vs Wilbur duhhhh, sorry, k bye :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 20:40:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2020 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 20:40:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 2010 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:40:17 -0000 Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:40:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407204306.3875.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web121.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:43:06 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:43:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: The 1st jungle massive? To: Ro mmel , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If that is the one with 1.8.7, it is. I heard it was going to be this month and then heard it was next month. So with all the confusion, I wrote 1.8.7 just a couple weeks ago and she comfirmed that she will be here in May. Also, I talk to B•Side a lot up in Sac and he hasn't said any different and he is booked for it. *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 20:45:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5614 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 20:45:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 5356 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:45:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.etrade.com) (204.5.38.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:45:20 -0000 Received: from bayarea.net (pc0327.etrade.com [204.163.200.157]) by mx.etrade.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA07064; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370BC139.F7BC535E@bayarea.net> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:34:01 -0700 From: Jim Maze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wil Hanno CC: SFRaves Subject: NRR: Internet 2 - Was NRR: Real internet accounts References: <19990407195410.54312.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > John Chambers, CEO of Cisco systems, has taken it upon himself to > create a new internet which he wants to call Internet 2.0. Who knows > what this will bring? Although it is a neccessity to have an internet > overhaul (the world is running out of IP addresses) we must be > careful where this takes us. I dont neccessarily want Cisco to be the > internet big brother. Uhmmmmm.....I think you are misinformed. If you want to learn more about the Internet 2 project, check out the site: www.internet2.edu Here's a snippit from the FAQ: What is Internet2? Internet2 (I2) is a collaborative effort to develop advanced Internet technology and applications vital to the research and education missions of higher education. Over 140 U.S. universities, working together with partners in industry and government, are leading the Internet2 project. Internet2 is working to enable applications, such as telemedicine, digital libraries and virtual laboratories that are not possible with the technology underlying today's Internet. As a project of the University Corporation for Advanced Internet Development (UCAID), the Internet2 project is not a single separate network, but rather joins member network application and engineering development efforts together with many advanced campus, regional, and national networks. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 20:47:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8185 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 20:47:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 8165 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:47:51 -0000 Received: from law-f73.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.136) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:47:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 604 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 20:47:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407204724.603.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:47:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: jmaze@bayarea.net, wil_hanno@hotmail.com Cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Internet 2 - Was NRR: Real internet accounts Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:47:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oops, i think i have my terminology mixed up. I do have the Cisco article at home though. I thought i may have been wrong on the name...my bad >From: Jim Maze >To: Wil Hanno >CC: SFRaves >Subject: NRR: Internet 2 - Was NRR: Real internet accounts >Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:34:01 -0700 > > >> John Chambers, CEO of Cisco systems, has taken it upon himself to >> create a new internet which he wants to call Internet 2.0. Who knows >> what this will bring? Although it is a neccessity to have an internet >> overhaul (the world is running out of IP addresses) we must be >> careful where this takes us. I dont neccessarily want Cisco to be the >> internet big brother. > >Uhmmmmm.....I think you are misinformed. If you want to learn more about >the Internet 2 project, check out the site: www.internet2.edu > >Here's a snippit from the FAQ: > >What is Internet2? > >Internet2 (I2) is a collaborative effort to develop advanced Internet >technology and applications vital >to the research and education missions of higher education. Over 140 >U.S. universities, working >together with partners in industry and government, are leading the >Internet2 project. Internet2 is >working to enable applications, such as telemedicine, digital libraries >and virtual laboratories that are >not possible with the technology underlying today's Internet. As a >project of the University >Corporation for Advanced Internet Development (UCAID), the Internet2 >project is not a single >separate network, but rather joins member network application and >engineering development efforts >together with many advanced campus, regional, and national networks. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 20:48:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9354 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 20:48:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 9328 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:48:27 -0000 Received: from mail.fiberia.com (208.137.248.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:48:27 -0000 Received: from gtsl1003.us1.ibm.net (mail.fiberia.com [208.137.248.15]) by mail.fiberia.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA08747; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904072145.OAA08747@mail.fiberia.com> To: "Macadio G." , gpxl@pcgr.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: joshg@fiberia.com Subject: Ride Date: Wed, 7 Apr 99 14:45:57 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If anyone lives in or near Santa Rosa and is going to the HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL* in april if anyone can give me a ride. It would be apreciated. Thanks Freinds Josh *********************************************************** * Get your FREE e-mail and FREE web site at FIBERIA * * http://www.fiberia.com * *********************************************************** From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 20:53:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12709 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 20:53:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 12701 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 20:53:48 -0000 Received: from web130.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.199) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:53:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407205512.21660.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web130.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:55:12 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:55:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix To: Gammbino@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There is about as many places to find glow stick as there are ways to use them. Sporting Goods, Auto Parts, Army Surplus and A PARTY STORE. Party stores are good because you can find all sorts of stuff there. ;) *HUGZ* pat --- Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Hey everyone. I know this sounds dumb but oh well. > Do any of you know where > to find friggin glo stix?? I swear cause all the > stores I go to either don't > have them or they sold out. So if you could help me > and tell me where I could > find some that would be great!! =) thanks Oh ya even > where to find the > glowing necklaces. > > Thanks alot > > Kent!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:16:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26927 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:16:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 26911 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:16:56 -0000 Received: from web208.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:16:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407211705.11025.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.209] by web208.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:17:05 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:17:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: nrr: giggling again To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is hilarious.love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:22:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1129 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:22:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 1118 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:22:46 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:22:46 -0000 Received: from pm6-40.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id 2PTXR3Q5; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:21:23 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be813c$c7fb2b20$28c4cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: Subject: glow sticks Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:22:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE8102.1B054340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE8102.1B054340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you can also buy glow sticks and other stuff at=20 http://liberty.ispree.net *plur* =3D)sooz aka libertygrl ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE8102.1B054340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE8102.1B054340-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:22:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1402 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:22:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 1317 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:22:52 -0000 Received: from web203.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.103) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:22:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407211841.20353.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.209] by web203.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:18:41 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:18:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: GLOWTICKS To: MIB271@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have never had to pay for a glowstick.love,Julie p.s. they don't last long enough. I want a glowstick that lasts and lasts and lasts. I also have some glow in the dark body gel. IT BARELY GLOWS!!! That is annoying and dissappointing. Don't buy it if you see it. It doesn't work! Ugh!!!!!! -- MIB271@aol.com wrote: > HOW MUCH DO YOU GUYS SPEND ON ONE GLOWSTICK......i > want to see if i am > getting ripped off!!!! > GReg > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:32:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9818 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:32:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 9808 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:32:40 -0000 Received: from fes-qout.whowhere.com (HELO mailcity.com) (209.1.236.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:32:40 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Wed Apr 7 14:32:00 1999 To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" , "Mook" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:32:00 -0800 From: "Pantera King" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Permitting parties? X-Sender-Ip: 209.185.110.113 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not in SF you don't. No more permits unless it is outdoors, then you have to deal with park & recreation. SF doesn't do permits anymore. Unless you have a bunch of money and a good lawyer. -- On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:10:33 Mook wrote: >I was just curious if anybody knows what's involved in getting an all >nite permit for a small venue (300-500 people). Approximate $$. Do they >give out permits like that? etc. > >I'm just curious as our selction of venues is decreasing rapidly, and >I'm wondering where we're gonna go when the venues we do have are gone. > >=) >M<>< > > > > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:33:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11391 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:33:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 11278 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:33:54 -0000 Received: from web201.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:33:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407213208.24497.rocketmail@web201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.209] by web201.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:32:08 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:32:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: who is going to the same party i went to... To: dj _haK , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow! Another time traveler. I am so pleased to be in such good company.love,Julie --- dj _haK wrote: > who is going to the same party that i went to last > week that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that > i went to the week > before that i went to the week before that i went to > the week before > that i went to the week before that i went to the > week before that i > went to the week before that i went to the week > before that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that > i went to the week > before that i went to the week before that i went to > the week before > that i went to the week before that i went to the > week before that i > went to the week before that i went to the week > before that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that > i went to the week > be > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:35:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12763 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:35:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 12647 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:35:04 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:35:04 -0000 Received: from shell.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA16568; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904072133.OAA16568@mail.netwiz.net> To: "michael waldren" Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: live acts In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:42:39 -0700 Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:33:42 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > KRS-1 is a bomb ass live show. > they will both be at metropolis in may and i cant wait. it is going to > be so god damn ghetto though. Did anyone go to cyberfest for Run-DMC. > It will be another one of those.OH well i still would not miss it for > the world. What, there won't a room full of "candy raving trance nazis"?? (thanks for the quote JSL). I'm there! I continue to be sickened by the use of "ghetto" on this list... Can't we think of a slightly less insulting term? Ghetto is where my parents and grandparents were forced to live before being shiped off to a concentration camp... I really didn't want to think about that today, but it's hard to disassociate "ghetto" from the thoughts of all the dead relatives you never met. So, how about just saying that this show won't have anything to do with "rave" or "techno." KRS-1 is old-school Hip-Hop, so anyone expecting the demographics to be the same as a trance-party needs a good pimp-slapping. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:42:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19188 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:42:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 19162 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:42:29 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:42:29 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vSJWa19354 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:11:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:11:27 EDT Subject: pre-Tickle shindig :)..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Come out and Play!!! Hey everyone, listen up...the people who brought u the pre-F8 party is up to their shinanigans again... this time, it's for Tickle 3.. it's in Santa Clara, but in a new location.. there'll be lotsa good beats and good grub... it's a potluck, so bring ur goodies ;) It starts at noon and the dj lineup consists of... Damon Jeff Atomic DJ Oxygen Merlyn C.A.P C.A.P V.O.R.G. and C.A.P V.O.R.G BASS Records Page Joe at 408 302-3748 for directions and rememba to leave ur area code... PLUR.. ~MUAH~ sPaRklEs ;) & XRictusx val and ryan :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:47:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23175 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:47:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 23155 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:47:33 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:47:33 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA05309; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:46:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca43-55.ix.netcom.com(209.110.234.183) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma005179; Wed Apr 7 16:45:44 1999 Message-ID: <370BD202.6BCA4BB1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:45:39 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: Brian Behlendorf , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: spammin' n-stuff References: <923509681.29829.327@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk After reading Leslie's post below, and Brian's post earlier, ... something very funny dawned upon me. It's like this correlation between the rave scene and the internet community... and I realized that there is this obvious double standard that seems to have been completely overlooked. There are many people on this list that are Internet specialist, and work within the Online industry. To them, what once was their hobby and pastime, has evolved into their profession. Siting rules, and regulations, and guidelines, and protocol, and making a living... they reflect the commercial and mainstream aspects of what the internet has become. The ironic twist of this, is that many of these same people consider themselves to be 'Underground' when it comes to the rave scene, and consider ME to be the commercial and mainstream counterpart of what raving has evolved to, because of the professional nature of my productions. The parody of all this is that when it comes to their online business... I Become the Underground, because I still see the internet as being FREE, and Open, and accepting, and a resource to spread positive information and promotion, without restrictions ... and they see me as someone that doesn't conform to their regulations, as a Spammer, and an irritating, behind the times, nuisance that doesn't follow the rules of the day, and does things unprofessionally. It's especially funny, when I consider the events of the last few days, which Ki instigated against me. Because in the rave scene he considers himself to be the UG and me to be the mainstream (with my glossy flyers and disrespectful massive marketing). And because of this, he felt the need to go out of his way and put me in my place ... just because I see the internet, the same way he sees the rave scene (the way Brian described it, as back in the day.... the old school and UG net). It makes you question just whose UG and whose the Massive? If there has ever been a great example for a double standard than it has to be it. It's just my perspective on it, and be it a twisted analogy, I think some of you get my drift. I guess the moral of this is that ... Underground and Massive... it's all just perspective, and labels.... Just like my perspective on this may be totally different than another persons. But I still find it very, very amusing in this case especially. Keep it mellow, Vlad leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > Let me put it another way. Many of us remember how the Internet was > > before spam, ... > > brian, you point out some very important things that i can see are important > and offer a different perspective -- as the internet grows, we need to make > new rules to cover these new ways of communications.... and how to handle > the new ways to abuse these tools.... > > and though i am not involved in internet commerce as my profession, i > absolutely defer to those who are to create the "rules and regulations" that > will balance the needs of all sides.... if everyone is as reasonable as > you, we're in good hands... > > but i hope we leave room for the reality that, in an situation where there > are "rules"... we always benefit by reminding ourselves of what those rules > are made to accomplish... and recognizing when there is gray area.... the > difference between "the letter of the law" and "the intention of the law" > ... which as in any legal area, is complex... > > maybe i'm just lucky... i've had corporate email accounts, i've had personal > email accounts... and i have never felt victimized by spam in any way... > maybe i just don't peruse sites that would add my name to some unwanted porn > lists (hmmm, where do i have to go to get those??)... > > so i don't perceive spam as a big problem to me... > > and i still don't think that a focused and directed mailing via email is > much different to me -- as a consumer, not as an isp -- than junk mail in my > mailbox... though it wastes bandwidth instead of trees... annoying, > maybe.... criminal, don't want to make that leap. > > and on the pay-as-you-go-side.... i do think that mass mailings probably > *should* cost a sender a few cents though... a regular mailer costs design, > printing, paper and postage... and so marketers evaluate cost and > benefitand return on investment.... it's probably time for that in the > world of internet commerce as well.. > > and again, i'm not sure that the vigor with which this specific incident was > pursued didn't have some other agenda... and your suggestions to vlad about > ways to manage his email mailings are good and i'm sure he appreciates > them. > > so... anyway... > > love, leslie > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:48:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23955 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:48:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23946 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:48:15 -0000 Received: from commercial.dsp.com (199.4.121.145) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:48:15 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-221.dsp.com [204.118.76.221]) by commercial.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02242; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:25:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199904072125.OAA02242@commercial.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:44:31 -0700 To: npm@netwiz.net, "michael waldren" From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: live acts Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" In-Reply-To: <199904072133.OAA16568@mail.netwiz.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What I really want to know is: >> KRS-1 is a bomb ass live show. >> they will both be at metropolis Um, KRS-1 = both? Who is the other in that both? Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:50:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26548 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 26410 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:50:33 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:50:33 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22794 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990407145302.007f0100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:53:02 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: re: anyone going to discovery? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wouldn't miss it for the world... I just took the worst midterm of my life and i SURVIVED!!! YAY!!! So... I'm going ALL OUT tomorrow nite... One big ol' sober celebration. Happy Day! -Carly At 08:54 AM 4/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >was just wondering of anyone is going to discovery in santa rosa on thursday >night?? maybe meet some list peoples there before flying out for a bunch of >weeks. thanx >eric j > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:51:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28632 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:51:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28522 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:51:46 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:51:46 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7MR6D7X; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:51:16 EDT To: p_king@mailcity.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:09:11 -0800 Subject: Re: Permitting parties? Message-ID: <19990319.000912.-300613.2.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6-8,10-42 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not exactly. You can get private party permits where you don't sell tickets at the door, or you can do a non-profit benefit. But these are pretty tricky because A: the venue owners usually need to be pretty tight with the city, and B: the permits usually don't want you to go late. But is is almost impossible, so maybe you're right. But it can be done, if the forces of nature and the planets allign in your favor or something, I don't know. On Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:32:00 -0800 "Pantera King" writes: > Not in SF you don't. >No more permits unless it is outdoors, then you have to deal with park >& recreation. > >SF doesn't do permits anymore. Unless you have a bunch of money and a >good lawyer. > >-- > >On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:10:33 Mook wrote: >>I was just curious if anybody knows what's involved in getting an >all >>nite permit for a small venue (300-500 people). Approximate $$. Do >they >>give out permits like that? etc. >> >>I'm just curious as our selction of venues is decreasing rapidly, >and >>I'm wondering where we're gonna go when the venues we do have are >gone. >> >>=) >>M<>< >> >> >> >> > > >Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com >Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 21:53:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 101 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 21:53:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29981 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 21:53:34 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 21:53:34 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00295 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990407145603.007a3a30@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:56:03 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: re: Need help on Glo Stix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Home Dept sells the big BRIGHT glowsticks... they're for emergency flares and they are BRIGHT... not for the shy dancer in the corner... and they aren't too expensive either.. I think they come in green and orange. -Carly :) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 22:12:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11737 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 22:11:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 11721 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 22:11:54 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 22:11:54 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA02671; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for charity.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 22:18:28 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:11:15 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'Eric Jones'" , "Comolli, Loic" , "'Jess ica'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org, "'fiercefigs@aol.com'" Subject: RE: meeting at discovery?? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:11:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk shall we just go with the usual meeting point, the one i always forget to go to? (water @ 1am?) loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Jones [SMTP:EricJ@foxracing.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 10:49 AM > To: 'Comolli, Loic'; 'Jess ica'; sfraves@hyperreal.org; > 'fiercefigs@aol.com' > Subject: meeting at discovery?? > > how about a meeting spot??? anyone know the location?? > eric j > > -----Original Message----- > From: Comolli, Loic [mailto:LXC@crai.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:37 AM > To: 'Jess ica'; Eric Jones; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: anyone going to discovery?? > > > same here. right now i'm leaning toward discovery, but nothing's sure > until > tomorrow evening. > > loic > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jess ica [SMTP:thatpisces@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:25 AM > > To: Eric Jones; sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: anyone going to discovery?? > > > > Its between Eklektik or Discovery for me, Ryan Vs. Wilbur has me on the > > discovery side alittle... > > > > Jessica > > --- Eric Jones wrote: > > > was just wondering of anyone is going to discovery > > > in santa rosa on thursday > > > night?? maybe meet some list peoples there before > > > flying out for a bunch of > > > weeks. thanx > > > eric j > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 22:12:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12670 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 22:12:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 12471 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 22:12:17 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 22:12:17 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 610677; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:12:17 -0700 Message-ID: <370BD7E2.E1EEA717@warmth.org> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:10:42 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mook CC: Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Subject: Re: Permitting parties? References: <023b01be8121$f1ee9040$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Pricing for permits is really not based by the number of attendee's. Matt Mook wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > I was just curious if anybody knows what's involved in getting an all > nite permit for a small venue (300-500 people). Approximate $$. Do they > give out permits like that? etc. > > I'm just curious as our selction of venues is decreasing rapidly, and > I'm wondering where we're gonna go when the venues we do have are gone. > > =) > M<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 22:15:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15333 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 22:15:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 15320 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 22:15:23 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 22:15:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id PAA05016; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:13:24 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:13:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: npm@netwiz.net cc: michael waldren , San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: Re: live acts In-Reply-To: <199904072133.OAA16568@mail.netwiz.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Niels P. Mayer wrote: > > I continue to be sickened by the use of "ghetto" on this list... Can't we > think of a slightly less insulting term? Ghetto is where my parents and > grandparents were forced to live before being shiped off to a concentration > camp... I really didn't want to think about that today, but it's hard to > disassociate "ghetto" from the thoughts of all the dead relatives you never > met. > > So, how about just saying that this show won't have anything to do with > "rave" or "techno." KRS-1 is old-school Hip-Hop, so anyone expecting the > demographics to be the same as a trance-party needs a good pimp-slapping. Can we just stop using the word "pimp" because it reminds me of the long hours my father and grandfather before him were forced to work, unable to find a legitamate job. Forced to act as the middle men in the oldest profession on Earth. Forced to wear large plumed hats, and talk in funny dialects. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 22:28:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26301 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 22:28:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 26088 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 22:28:23 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 22:28:23 -0000 Received: from ShockVibe@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vRCBa08162 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:27:20 -0400 (EDT) From: ShockVibe@aol.com Message-ID: <9494398e.243d35c8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:27:20 EDT Subject: RE:meeting at discovery?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: ShockVibe@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm there... Can't wait to see all you beautiful people that I've been talking to on the list for some time :) sean LXC@crai.com wrote: shall we just go with the usual meeting point, the one i always forget to go to? (water @ 1am?) loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 22:34:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29787 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 22:34:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 29778 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 22:34:08 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 22:34:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407221754.7997.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.240] by web1; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:17:54 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:17:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: anyone going to discovery?? To: Jess ica , Eric Jones , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I want to go to Discovery. However I'm down in the East Bay, & as a working man I can't stay all night. Would need to be home in the Oakland by 3 am. So if anyone is down to give me a ride, and help me get home by 3am, thanks it would be greatly appreciated. =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Jess ica wrote: > > Its between Eklektik or Discovery for me, Ryan Vs. Wilbur has me on the > discovery side alittle... > > Jessica > --- Eric Jones wrote: > > was just wondering of anyone is going to discovery > > in santa rosa on thursday > > night?? maybe meet some list peoples there before > > flying out for a bunch of > > weeks. thanx > > eric j > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 22:41:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2718 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 22:41:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 2707 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 22:41:08 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 22:41:08 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04380; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:41:03 -0700 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:32:03 -0700 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB91E@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'ShockVibe@aol.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: meeting at discovery?? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:32:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk is there a water bar?? i saw on the calendar there are two alcohol bars??!!?? and...1am seems kinda late, how about 11:30pm?? that way we can hang with our new (or old as the case may be) friends?? whatcha say list?? eric j -----Original Message----- From: ShockVibe@aol.com [mailto:ShockVibe@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:27 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE:meeting at discovery?? I'm there... Can't wait to see all you beautiful people that I've been talking to on the list for some time :) sean LXC@crai.com wrote: shall we just go with the usual meeting point, the one i always forget to go to? (water @ 1am?) loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:04:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17640 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:04:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 17623 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:04:33 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd110.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.174) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:04:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 17441 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 23:04:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407230406.17440.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.16.219.245 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:04:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.16.219.245] From: "Eric Baumgartner" To: Gammbino@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:04:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Harmonics in Santa Rosa has a buttloads of them. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:17:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27975 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:17:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 27918 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:17:36 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd103.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:17:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 22930 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 23:17:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407231709.22929.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.16.219.245 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:17:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.16.219.245] From: "Eric Baumgartner" To: MIB271@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: GLOWTICKS Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:17:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you spend more than 2.50$ I think you're getting ripped off. Most should be no more than 1.99, If that. EJ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:21:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29883 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:21:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 29874 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:21:27 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:21:27 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vMJZa01389 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:20:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <98efb396.243d4256@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:20:54 EDT Subject: Positivity on the list? What? (was glo stix, permitting, & live acts) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would just like to point something out right now. We are experiencing some very productive, nonnegative threads. Now isn't this what SFRaves list is about? I know, let's start some more of these. How about a thread of everybody's fav DJ's? Or everybody's experiences at their very first party? Let's keep 'em comin' people! tickled, 102ecaps From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:22:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1285 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:22:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 1233 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:22:05 -0000 Received: from wya-oe9.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:22:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 58283 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 23:21:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407232148.58282.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.16.219.245 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:21:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.16.219.245] From: "Eric Baumgartner" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: anyone going to discovery? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:21:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I highly recommend Discovery, if for nothing else, seeing Mars and MysterE of F8 is worth the trip right there for the energy the put into their mixes. Definately check it out. EJ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:29:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6540 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:29:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 6531 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:29:00 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd116.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.180) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:29:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 71071 invoked by uid 0); 7 Apr 1999 23:28:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407232833.71070.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.16.219.245 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:28:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.16.219.245] From: "Eric Baumgartner" To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:28:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All I can say, is if I ever see a rave, with Mars or Mystere there, I'm There, I have never heard so much built up energy from trance dj's at a rave. They really get you going. And they mix the best of the best stuff. But, I"M SURE, ya'll already knew that huh? EJ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:30:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8576 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:30:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 8568 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:30:36 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:30:36 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA06986; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for cache.ns.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:37:07 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:29:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'Eric Jones'" , "'ShockVibe@aol.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: meeting at discovery?? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:29:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i don't mean to be a pain, but how about 12am? as for the spot... you guys decide. loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Jones [SMTP:EricJ@foxracing.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:32 PM > To: 'ShockVibe@aol.com'; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: meeting at discovery?? > > is there a water bar?? i saw on the calendar there are two alcohol > bars??!!?? and...1am seems kinda late, how about 11:30pm?? that way we > can > hang with our new (or old as the case may be) friends?? whatcha say > list?? > eric j > > -----Original Message----- > From: ShockVibe@aol.com [mailto:ShockVibe@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:27 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE:meeting at discovery?? > > > I'm there... Can't wait to see all you beautiful people that I've been > talking to on the list for some time :) > sean > > > LXC@crai.com wrote: > shall we just go with the usual meeting point, the one i always forget to > go > to? (water @ 1am?) > > loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:33:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10409 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:33:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 10390 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:33:07 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:33:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13327 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: TrackID Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to find out the name of a white label track that I have.. I fished it out of a discount bin at a record store for like 4 bucks, and it was labeled house, but imo it is very much trance.. It only has one vocal.. A sample played about 4 times through the whole song.. It is a woman's voice and sounds like she is talking over an intercom of something and she says, "The only responsibility you have is that you enjoy yourself"... It is one of my favorite tracks, but I dont know what it is called!?!?! Gregery From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:38:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13530 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:38:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 13502 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:38:10 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:38:10 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vRCOa00562 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:37:11 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:37:11 EDT Subject: Re: GLOWTICKS To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i pay 3.50 for a pack of 2 at the sporting goods store. or *gasp* like 3-4$ at the party (ouch) per 1 -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:38:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14259 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:38:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 14079 invoked by uid 233); 7 Apr 1999 23:38:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 25066 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 19:19:02 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 19:19:02 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Wed Apr 7 12:18:29 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "kurv" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:18:29 -0800 From: "Joaqman" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: phuture dj's X-Sender-Ip: 206.170.3.229 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dear peeps, i am always scouring the bay for the latest greatest next new skool dj and i found one right under my nose. dj Smurx is a diamond in the rough. a hidden vein of tropikal gold waiting to take you on a ride. defender of deeeeep tek haus and 5 am vibes, Smurx is sure to rok the planet, let's rock the planet baby. thank you Smurx for the intimate prvt show. let me know when i can book you a.s.a.p. look for him @ one of 5 families phuture events. remember, you heard it from joaqman first. --- page me @ 510-330-1101 Riddle: How many shingles does it take to cover a dog house in the winter? Answer: Green, because snakes don't have arm pits? HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:43:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18162 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:43:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 18153 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:43:54 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:43:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990407233734.19738.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.104.156.114] by attach1; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:37:34 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:37:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk for me right now it has to be Tony or Iz although dj Sara really ripped it up @ Ecco last sunday ;) joaqman ---Eric Baumgartner wrote: > > All I can say, is if I ever see a rave, with Mars or Mystere there, > I'm There, I have never heard so much built up energy from trance dj's > at a rave. They really get you going. And they mix the best of the best > stuff. But, I"M SURE, ya'll already knew that huh? > EJ > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:45:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19104 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:45:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19095 invoked by uid 233); 7 Apr 1999 23:45:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 1014 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 22:35:55 -0000 Received: from mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (206.13.28.123) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 22:35:55 -0000 Received: from compoundrecords.com (ppp-206-170-32-162.snfc21.pacbell.net) by mta2.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.01.13.19.49.p4) with ESMTP id <0F9U00BZQC3M68@mta2.snfc21.pbi.net>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:41:35 -0700 From: Compound Office Subject: bsp: ** audio impact tix ** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sacraves@hyperreal.org, breaks@xmission.com Message-id: <370BDF1C.61012347@compoundrecords.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi-- Just to answer a lot of people's questions, there _are_ tickets left for Audio Impact for this Saturday, April 10, and they're only available at Compound Records in SF (415-864-8309). For anyone located too far outside the city to come here ahead of time you can either call ahead and pay by credit card (Visa, Mastercard) or you can send a money order payable to Compound Records-- they're $12 apiece (26 Lilac St., SF, CA 94103). Please remember that we'll be open on Saturday night until 9 PM. Lineup: Phantom 45 Flux/Stareyes/Rinse Zachariah Location soon to be announced! Thanks, B.A.S.S. Kru 415-332-5800 ext 24-7 415-646-0880 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:52:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24845 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:52:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 24835 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:52:06 -0000 Received: from netcom15.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.128) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:52:06 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom15.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id QAA17507; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <19990407233734.19738.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DJ Jeyson is still my all-around favorite "rave" DJ -- Grandmaster Flash is my favorite DJ of all time, closely followed by Jam Master Jay -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GTA - "The Parti EP" Orbit Trnsmission 007 available now at your local record shop. info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:55:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28331 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:55:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 28317 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:55:33 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:55:33 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13504; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:55:30 -0700 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:48:35 -0700 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB91F@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'Joaqman'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Fav DJ's??? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:48:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i will second that vote for dj sara...she was OWNING IT at ecco, and housepitality, and sound textures!!!!!!! gonna have to plan a trip to ibiza now!!! eric j -----Original Message----- From: Joaqman [mailto:jakeloco@rocketmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 4:38 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? for me right now it has to be Tony or Iz although dj Sara really ripped it up @ Ecco last sunday ;) joaqman ---Eric Baumgartner wrote: > > All I can say, is if I ever see a rave, with Mars or Mystere there, > I'm There, I have never heard so much built up energy from trance dj's > at a rave. They really get you going. And they mix the best of the best > stuff. But, I"M SURE, ya'll already knew that huh? > EJ > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 07 23:55:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28951 invoked by uid 6000); 7 Apr 1999 23:55:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28769 invoked from network); 7 Apr 1999 23:55:45 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 23:55:45 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13508; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:55:35 -0700 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:51:23 -0700 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB920@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'Comolli, Loic'" , Eric Jones , "'ShockVibe@aol.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: meeting at discovery?? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:51:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm down with 12 midnight...how about at (or near) the front door?? eric j -----Original Message----- From: Comolli, Loic [mailto:LXC@crai.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 4:30 PM To: 'Eric Jones'; 'ShockVibe@aol.com'; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: meeting at discovery?? i don't mean to be a pain, but how about 12am? as for the spot... you guys decide. loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Jones [SMTP:EricJ@foxracing.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:32 PM > To: 'ShockVibe@aol.com'; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: meeting at discovery?? > > is there a water bar?? i saw on the calendar there are two alcohol > bars??!!?? and...1am seems kinda late, how about 11:30pm?? that way we > can > hang with our new (or old as the case may be) friends?? whatcha say > list?? > eric j > > -----Original Message----- > From: ShockVibe@aol.com [mailto:ShockVibe@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:27 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE:meeting at discovery?? > > > I'm there... Can't wait to see all you beautiful people that I've been > talking to on the list for some time :) > sean > > > LXC@crai.com wrote: > shall we just go with the usual meeting point, the one i always forget to > go > to? (water @ 1am?) > > loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 00:01:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2250 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 00:01:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 2240 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 00:01:37 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 00:01:37 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vKTNa19166 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:57:14 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:57:14 EDT Subject: nrr? :question on CD To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just got a cd today. "happy hardcore foundation" and its really pushin my buttons well. but i have a question on one of the labels on the back. its: hiGHBorn how come the GHB is highlited and in bold and a contrasting red??? is this promoting GHB?! just a guesstion -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 00:05:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3676 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 00:05:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3662 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 00:05:14 -0000 Received: from web504.yahoomail.com (HELO send501.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 00:05:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408000628.13535.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web504.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:06:28 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:06:28 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FO DA JUNGLISTS..... DJ of the moment...can't get enuff of dat rinse n jamalski shiiitttt.... FO DA HOUSE-A-HOLICS.... DJ Dan rips it UPPPPPPP!!!! FO DA TRANCE BABIES..... Paul Oakenfold all da way! Sherri and Ebert give em two tumbs up!!! Sherbear :p From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 00:07:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4628 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 00:07:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 4619 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 00:07:20 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 00:07:20 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vHRNa27152 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:02:58 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <6b3421b3.243d4c32@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:02:58 EDT Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Station ID, and DJ Id? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im reluctant to name any big name dj's. Yes there are alot that just rock the house when they play. And I love it. But when I know the dj there is more of a connection. When I know him or her as a person I can feel the music as they would. Its more intimate for me. So I would have to say my boy out of S. Cal. DJ David Hopper. He plays an off the hook funky progressive house with groovy tribal beats. Ive had the unpleasure of experiencing alot of train wrecks lately. Believe it or not, about a month ago I experienced one at Spundaes while Paul Okenfold was playing. It was upstairs. I guess they spent all thier money on Paul and Rough Rider. The guy was clueless on how to bring the crowd into the music. And his track selection left something to be desired. Unfortunately Ive been a little to busy to attend many parties where I know some of the great local dj's are spinning. I wish I could experience them more often. I will be at the Wicked party this friday night. But Im unaware of who is spinning there. If anyone knows Id appreciate some info. Also if anyone has any info on a station that is broadcasting on 106.5. Im down in Salinas and just came across it. Its spins house all day long. And a pretty good variety too. Im very impressed. Something new and out of charactor for this area. Im not sure what city the station is out of. I havent heard on the air. Just constant music. Its great. And earlier this afternoon a Dj named Dj Lynwood was spinning. Anyone have any info on him? Just curious. He was playing some phat tracks. I could see him bring down the house. He built it up great. So much I was thinking of finding a place to dance tonight. Im an excellent seat dancer. You should see me grooving right now. Peace and much happiness, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 00:15:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9289 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 00:15:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9278 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 00:15:53 -0000 Received: from f86.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 00:15:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 43678 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 00:15:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408001530.43677.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:15:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: ejthadj@hotmail.com, Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:15:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Now I would like to know why they are so good or why you think they are the best? Is it cause all candy ravers love Mars and Mystre or cause you do? This is not a flame I am just curious as to why SF is hynotized by cyber trance is it the old "Everyone else likes it so I guess I do too" or cause of people have had a lot of exposure to trance and feel mike and eric play the best? Thanks, Macadio >From: "Eric Baumgartner" >To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? >Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:28:33 PDT > >All I can say, is if I ever see a rave, with Mars or Mystere there, >I'm There, I have never heard so much built up energy from trance dj's >at a rave. They really get you going. And they mix the best of the best >stuff. But, I"M SURE, ya'll already knew that huh? >EJ > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 00:15:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9462 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 00:15:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9328 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 00:15:55 -0000 Received: from law-f30.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.93) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 00:15:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 85074 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 00:15:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408001528.85073.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.196.204.177 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:15:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.196.204.177] From: "michael waldren" To: sherbear_21@yahoo.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:15:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I gotta go with Rap. I mean not only is she on the cover of insider, but damn. And i mean damn.You all know what i am saying.I know all the male junglists know what I am saying. "your everyday junglist" Mikey >From: What is a dic-so bunny >To: "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff >Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:06:28 -0700 (PDT) > >FO DA JUNGLISTS..... > >DJ of the moment...can't get enuff of dat rinse n >jamalski shiiitttt.... > > >FO DA HOUSE-A-HOLICS.... > >DJ Dan rips it UPPPPPPP!!!! > > >FO DA TRANCE BABIES..... > >Paul Oakenfold all da way! > >Sherri and Ebert give em two tumbs up!!! > >Sherbear :p > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 00:23:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15116 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 00:23:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15107 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 00:23:08 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 00:23:08 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdBAAa0004P; Wed Apr 7 17:21:48 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa02856; 7 Apr 99 17:19 PDT Message-ID: <370BF5E1.10F6889F@sco.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:18:41 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Jones CC: 'Joaqman' , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Ibiza References: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB91F@exchange1.foxracing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Eric Jones wrote: > > i will second that vote for dj sara...she was OWNING IT at ecco, and > housepitality, and sound textures!!!!!!! gonna have to plan a trip to ibiza > now!!! Don't even think about it unless a) you've got completely bottomless pockets or KNOW someone, The 'good', ie famous, clubs like Space cost about 50 bucks to get into, drinks can cost anywhere from 10 bucks up for a bottle of beer. b)like slumming it with drunken british larger louts.... It is very popular with the so called 18-30 crowd whose only idea of a good time is getting pissed and sleeping with anything (and I mean anything) that moves. c)love hearing tunes like "Horny' 24/7 in every bar, shop, club, blasting out of hotel rooms - if I ever hear that song again....... d)Love the massive - cause that what it's all about over there. Of course then the the mornings chilling out at cafes , staring into space and letting the warm rays drift over you ....... If you wanna go go, but I'd advise it as part of a broader European trip - it's great for a weekend, but I wouldn't want to stay any longer. Lesley From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 00:29:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20794 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 00:29:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20786 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 00:29:07 -0000 Received: from ultimanet.com (HELO sugarbeet.salinas.net) (root@205.179.129.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 00:29:07 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by sugarbeet.salinas.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA29596; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:33:50 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:29:48 -0700 To: wEirdo From: terry estioko Subject: Re: Who all is going to HARMONY'S: "The Springtime Flower Festival!!!" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SFR Laminates will be there in full effect....bbuueeyyyy!!! I'll post full info the monday before the party. -terry >:::raises hand::: I'll be there! =D BTW: Any chance laminates will be >distributed at this party? > >~wEirdo~ > >"Smile, it's free." > ~Grivo (Bruce McCulloch) in > { Kids in the Hall's Brain Candy} ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 00:33:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24311 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 00:33:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 24300 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 00:33:48 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 00:33:48 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vOLEa03138 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:31:18 EDT Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk when i first heard orbital on HACKERS i got shivers, and tears in my eyes. i didnt know i could ever feel about musik that way. so i threw out my smashing pumpkins and went on a quest. to find that music and understand it. i still dont but i am still on my quest to live my life with this music always filling me to the point of tears of happiness. when i was at pangea it was the first time i heard mars spin. sure i was there when he was spinning at other parties but i never REALLY listened to the music i just kinda wandered and danced to nothin but bass. but when MARS came on i screamed and cried and flung my arms in the air. the music was SO emotional. its what ive been lookin for. i will always remember that nite. and i will always luv mars and his music for showing me a little more about what this is all about. -aaron im a kandy kid and i listen to MARS ...am i *gasp* trendy??? j/k ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 00:59:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5866 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 00:59:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5844 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 00:59:37 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 00:59:37 -0000 Received: from nbjay (209-239-198-222.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.222]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA04882; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01cb01be8159$23a5e660$14019696@nbjay> From: "Jay" To: , References: Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:45:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you loved Haylcon&on&on by Orbital you would love Chicane's CD, "Far From the Maddening Crowds". Music with so much emotion and feeling you just have to break down... Rabbit in the Moon has also yanked quite a few tears from me over time.... Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? > when i first heard orbital on HACKERS i got shivers, and tears in my eyes. i > didnt know i could ever feel about musik that way. so i threw out my > smashing pumpkins and went on a quest. to find that music and understand > it. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 01:02:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8917 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 01:02:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 8907 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 01:02:47 -0000 Received: from f168.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.54) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 01:02:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18443 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 01:04:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408010407.18442.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.50 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:04:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.50] From: "dj boywonder" To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:04:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmm... id have to say any dj that puts there heart, soul, and mind into their music... aaron also: some could call it that....other could call it being yourself....depends on who you ask.... and yes we are different people...no candy here :P OoNOTlKo0@aol.com wrote: > >-aaron > >im a kandy kid and i listen to MARS ...am i *gasp* trendy??? j/k ;) Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 01:05:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11297 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 01:05:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 11286 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 01:05:45 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 01:05:45 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA12957; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA03090; Wed, 7 Apr 99 18:05:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:05:36 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: The Accomplice Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 15 tapes turned into 25! It's magic....... In-Reply-To: <370AF807.DD49C0AF@resourcerecords.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > PS Where are all the techno dj's?? > at urban development!!!!! may 1st From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 01:14:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14835 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 01:14:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14823 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 01:14:08 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 01:14:08 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA16060 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:13:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca14-58.ix.netcom.com(209.110.227.122) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma015891; Wed Apr 7 20:13:04 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990407175744.00abb5d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:13:02 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Discovery Info!!! (and directions) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello eveyone, This is truely going to be a night to remember for Santa Rosa!!! I can't wait! Here is the info! Thursday, April 8th Harmonics Records presents DISCOVERY Room 1 -techouseandtranceprogressive Mars & Mystere (F-8 sf) on 2x4 Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics) Erik Brown (Rebirth, Harmonics) URN & Logik (NBC, Harmonics) 2x4 Ryan Wilber & Jay Walker (NBC, Sparkle) 2x4, Room 2 -downbeatjumpupjungleandbass J-Bot (Harmony, Harmonics) Russell G. (Harmony, NBC) R2 Witco(NBC, Sparkle) 18+ 21 to drink, two full bars. 2 rooms of thundering 20,000 watt sound. 9pm-4am, $5 before 10:30 $7 after 120 Fifth St, Santa Rosa,. 707.571.8747 for info Directions: From the East Bay: take the Richmond San Rafael Bridge to San Rafael and connect to 101 north From SF: take the Golden Gate Bridge to 101 north So now that you are on 101 north, keep driving until you get into Santa Rosa and take the "Downtown Santa Rosa Exit" Go left at the bottom of the exit. This will put you onto West 3rd st. Take West 3rd st to Wilson St and go right Go up to 5th st and go right. The party is at the corner of 5th and Davis. You should come up for the day and make an outing of it. Come and check out Harmonics before the party. We have a huge record store to dive into so make a day of it! Harmonics will be staying open til 9pm (which is when the party starts.) Peace and love, Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 01:29:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23877 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 01:29:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 23867 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 01:29:24 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 01:29:24 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id 6BXCa18768; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <2b85ca6b.243d5f62@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:24:50 EDT Subject: Re: 15 tapes turned into 25! It's magic....... To: aminita@linex.com, chris@resourcerecords.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/7/99 5:05:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, aminita@linex.com writes: << > > PS Where are all the techno dj's?? > at urban development!!!!! may 1st >> Or you could also try MHz on Friday, the 16th. Harmony of course, always has good domestic and imported techno talent. Or you could even check out First Light. They have Andrei Morant coming on the 15th of May. IDM, F8, Static on Thursdays, Lightseed and several other crews do techno. Space Children was off the hook with imported techno artists for a while, but they take a vacation from the scene I think. And of course, Urban Development rocks das house! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 01:37:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 100 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 01:37:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29989 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 01:37:30 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 01:37:30 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vZNBa00557 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:36:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:36:20 EDT Subject: fav Dj To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: Oct1faith@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My favorite Dj is Blackstone. why because he is me an I like all my records.haha anyway Any dj that can make me dance become my favorite.It hard for me sometimes since I am a round it so much to pick just one.BUT if I have too Ruben Mancias.... he is my favorite so far because for some reason he touches me.I feel him. his joy,his pain, everytime he plays. blackstone PS.. to all you djs, if you are just standing around at the party, ask yourself why are you there......other words DANCE BABY DANCE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 01:39:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 946 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 01:38:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 932 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 01:38:57 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 01:38:57 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vHYZa26549 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:35:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:35:56 EDT Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i always get my glo stix at trance and jungle factory when i get my tickets!! (they have pink ones*~>my favorite color!<~* there!!) ..they have lots other colors there too!.. mu@hz* *niCOle* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 01:40:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2336 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 01:40:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 2316 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 01:40:46 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 01:40:46 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vQSGa28466 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:38:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:38:41 EDT Subject: Re: GLOWTICKS To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk at trance and jungle factory my pretty pink glow sticks are two dollars! (((hUgS))) *niCOle* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 01:47:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6602 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 01:47:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 6464 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 01:47:42 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 01:47:42 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vWNRa11769 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:45:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:45:59 EDT Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have to say that i love thomas trouble. just like mars and mystre he really gets the crowd into it.. as well as being such a nice guy i also think that hes a fantastic.. awesome.. wonderful.. (hehe).. dj!! hehe.. and when he spins "..we like to party.." or the titanic song (<3 memories <3) i really go crazy of course.. with my pink glostix! ;o) <3 *niCOle* <3 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 02:01:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14097 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 02:01:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 14085 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 02:01:48 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 02:01:48 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.15] (crai.com [207.180.76.15]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA11203; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.15] via smtpd (for cache.ns.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 02:08:29 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:01:16 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'Lesley Mortell'" , Eric Jones Cc: "'Joaqman'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Ibiza Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:01:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i guess you're right. i went to ibiza when i was fourteen, had the time of my life. don't know if i'd do it again though - let me take that back, i would for a weekend. loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Lesley Mortell [SMTP:lesleymo@sco.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:19 PM > To: Eric Jones > Cc: 'Joaqman'; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Ibiza > > Eric Jones wrote: > > > > i will second that vote for dj sara...she was OWNING IT at ecco, and > > housepitality, and sound textures!!!!!!! gonna have to plan a trip to > ibiza > > now!!! > > Don't even think about it unless > a) you've got completely bottomless pockets or KNOW someone, > The 'good', ie famous, clubs like Space cost about 50 bucks to get into, > drinks can cost anywhere from 10 bucks up for a bottle of beer. > > b)like slumming it with drunken british larger louts.... > It is very popular with the so called 18-30 crowd whose only idea of a > good time is getting pissed and sleeping with anything (and I mean > anything) that moves. > > c)love hearing tunes like "Horny' 24/7 in every bar, shop, club, > blasting out of hotel rooms - if I ever hear that song again....... > > d)Love the massive - cause that what it's all about over there. > > Of course then the the mornings chilling out at cafes , staring into > space and letting the warm rays drift over you ....... > > If you wanna go go, but I'd advise it as part of a broader European trip > - it's great for a weekend, but I wouldn't want to stay any longer. > > Lesley From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 02:34:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29778 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 02:34:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 29748 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 02:34:22 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 02:34:22 -0000 Received: from Tekno313@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id zVAWa18768; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:30:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Tekno313@aol.com Message-ID: <59498d31.243d6ebf@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:30:23 EDT Subject: Re: Derrick Carter at Pacific/J.L (was Re: that sunset party) To: npm@shell.netwiz.net, youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, groovi-music@netwiz.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: Tekno313@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/7/99 3:31:55 PM, npm@shell.netwiz.net writes: >They must have gone to a different party than I did. Although I've seen >DC >tear the roof off in past performances, he didn't quite do it this time. >But >he still did a great job, and IMHO, was the only highlight of the night >for >me (Unfortunately, I missed Monty and Joe, who always play stuff I like.) Let me provide some of my personal opinion on the Jack Move show, seeing as though I had adirect hand in bringing the man back to town. Neils is my boy; and I'm not dissing; so all drama seekers chill your will! I agree, Derrick didnt play an amazing set; but he did rock shit in my opinion. He played some really great music. It was the first time I saw him play and I was impressed. And Joe only played outside with Kamahele in the downtempo area; I played first in the main room. Solar, Galen and I drew straws to see who would play when and I happened to pick the shortest one, so I went on first. It was the fairest way to figure out who would get to play when. > >I did think the vibe was completely dead when I got there. And the unnamed >Pacific DJ's playing inside prior to D.C. did absolutely nothing to improve >the situation. First, they played really boring, shitty music. Second, >they >couldn't keep a flow going to get people into a groove. This is not to >say >that the same Pacific DJ's haven't managed to rock it in the park or on >a >boat party, but they just weren't doing it last Saturday.<< I disagree about the vibe being dead before Derrick got on...Solar played that Moloko record and people went nuts! Galen broke it down at the beginning of his set and people reacted. > >Things finally came to life when D.C. came on, IMHO. And then, one hour >into >his set, just as he built up some "steam", the soundsystem quits on him >for >about 15 minutes. (What happened?). When he came back on, it was clear >that >he was too annoyed (the buzzing out of the stage-left channel didn't help) >and his concentration was too interrupted to continue doing the do. SO >the >rest of his set, wasn't as inspired as it could have been, and this was >understandable. > Ok, NO WAY it was 15 mins. Neils! C'mon man! :) It was more like 5 at the most. I listened back to the DAT on Sunday night so I know...turns out though that the breaker needed to be reset, that was what happened. >You see, D.C. is like a huge freight train. It takes him an hour to get >the >party up to speed. Normally, he plays at least 2-3 hour sets and that's >when >he gets the train going at like 200MPH (e.g. his previous performances >at >DNA and Stompy). The Pacific/J.L. D.C. show only got up to about 60MPH >because of (1) vibe-killing time-wasting music being played indoors prior >to >his set (they should've put Joe and Monty on inside prior to D.C.); (2) >vibe-killing spring-break collegiate-looking crowd that is mostly >indistinguishable from a random collegiate-looking concert-going crowd >(mostly, i think their shoegazing would've been interrupted by better DJing >prior to D.C.); (3) soundsystem failure 1/2 way through D.C.'s set; (4) >general sucky/buzzy/overdriven quality of the soundsystem (i'm an >audiophile, so shoot me) it wasn't horrible and was certainly listenable, >but it lacked "definition" and sounded "bloated." > First of all, let me comment on the crowd description. Most of the folks in the house were long time what I call "new school" folks. People representing crews like mine, Pacific, Stompy, Buggin Out, Betalounge, Static etc. Most of the people who showed up did so because they heard about it word-of-mouth. Just because those people werent the same folks you see gurning their brains out whenever Wicked does a party means nothing! There werent a shitload of flyers made. Also, I was commenting to my man JSL that there was some flavor in the house! It was the first time in a while I saw more than just a few black people up in this party. Among this crew were hip hop DJ Al Simmons and MC Jamalski. So for SF, this party had some actual flavour! In regards to the sound, I agree, it *did* sound a little flat for Gateway. I was a little surprised. The boom wasnt quite there. Maybe it had something to do with the venue, because at the Paperclip People show @ Kate O' Briens their rig was unreal! >When I heard the linup for this party, my first thought was "uh oh" :: >too >many DJ's and not enough time for Derrick Carter to tear down and rebuild >the house. This proved true, especially w/ the soundsystem failure halfway >through his set. Well, the reason why there were so many DJ's was because I approached pacific about doing this jam. They come with three DJ's and the JL always comes with at least that many. In addition to that, the venue only is allowed to be open until four, or else you're damn right we would have given everyone longer sets. > >So, incase anybody's listening, next time D.C. is in town, please have >a >party where he is on for at least three-four hours, and where the other >DJ's >playing before him are on the same level (even if they have different >style). A dream lineup for such an event would be: Derrick Carter and Juan >Atkins or Derrick Carter and Mark Grant, or Derrick Carter and Gene Farris, >or ... (and I'm not dissing the sunset DJ's, it's just that there's an >obvious vast difference between Albert Einstein and the local community >college physiscs teacher). Yeah, but I disagree with that. How are the locals supposed to ever be able to rise up to the level of people like DC and Juan and Farina, etc? Playing in their bedrooms? I dont think so. I think that kind of lineup really adds drama to a party. You ever hear James Brown talking about how a "hungry man plays" compared to a man who isnt hungry?" A hungry man(ie, unknown local DJ) is read to bring the ruckus to a show because he want to rock at the level of the headliner. The man who "isnt hungry" is often times complacent; and wont take the chances needed to lift the party to that next level. > It wasnt a perfect show, but I think all involved feel really good about being able to pull off a show almost no one in town thought would actually happen.... monty luke justice league sound system http://www.justiceleague.com >But quite franlkly, a better linup would have been D.C. on for four hours >and no other DJ's other than those on the outside soundsystem. > >Overall, despite the negatives, I had a *great* time simply because I was >given the opportunity to be in the presence of a master turntablist & DJ. >(I >was dancing and "trainspotting the DJ" for most of his performance near >the >stage-right speaker stacks with an excellent view of the decks). > >And if D.C's performance was "yesterday's newspaper" I couldn't give a >fuck. >I'd rather read yesterday's New York Times (aka D.C.) than today's National >Enquirer (aka most of SF's Junior DJ's). > >This was my first time at Jelly's and I likeed the Venue a lot. Having >an >outside space/soundsystem with views of boats and water was very nice. >And >although it got hot and crowded, it wasn't unbearable (unlike the last >Stompy). From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 03:30:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26230 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 03:30:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26219 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 03:30:17 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 03:30:17 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vVYIa26549 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:27:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: <478f63f4.243d7c20@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:27:28 EDT Subject: *the meeting spot at tiCKle 3?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi!* i was just wondering if there was going to be a meeting spot at tiCKle 3 cuz so far i've never met any of you, but i think that it would be really fun to be able to put some faces to the names! :o) oops.. i lied i met speedex30 at man in the moon 5!! (~*~> it was so nice meeting you scott! thanks for the necklace and the friendship bracelet!!) (((hUgS))) *niCOle* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 03:36:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 631 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 03:36:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 608 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 03:36:40 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 03:36:40 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vWJNa29766 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:33:39 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: <27d8705e.243d7d93@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:33:39 EDT Subject: Re: Music suggestions? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/7/99 7:10:28 PM, mcarey@triad.com writes: <> Mee too! any one know of some good house/trance/hardcore cd's?? Thanks! ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 03:37:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1393 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 03:37:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 1383 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 03:37:40 -0000 Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (24.0.26.58) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 03:37:40 -0000 Received: from corp.home.net (Protostar@ops-pc067.custops.home.net [24.0.24.87]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12597; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370C2458.32C35CED@corp.home.net> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:36:56 -0700 From: Peter R Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-AtHome0404 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peanut5367@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: GLOWTICKS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I get mine from www.qlight.com they have everything.. if you are in quick need of them tho, there is a place in San Jose/Campbell on Bascom Ave called Mountain View Surplus. reasonable prices, and they even have the nuclear ones ;) Peanut5367@aol.com wrote: > > at trance and jungle factory my pretty pink glow sticks are two dollars! > > (((hUgS))) > *niCOle* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 03:44:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4929 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 03:44:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 4920 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 03:44:48 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 03:44:48 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vBVCa10034 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:44:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: <27d875ef.243d8006@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:44:06 EDT Subject: NRR: Where did AIDS come from To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, I'm doing a project for a sociology class on the history of AIDS. I've tried all the search engines I know of (Yahoo,lycos, and infoseek) but they have all this info on preventing AIDS what AIDS is but nothing on the history of it. If anyone can help me find out any info please E-mail me ASAP. Everyone have a great weekend, LaalKuchaa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 03:47:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6838 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 03:47:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 6816 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 03:47:01 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 03:47:01 -0000 Received: from Ours4fun@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vLNVa19906 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:44:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Ours4fun@aol.com Message-ID: <2c17bf05.243d8021@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:44:33 EDT Subject: anybody near santa rosa To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Ours4fun@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am in need of a ride to the HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL* So if anyone is going that lives up here or close by and has room let me know Thanks everyone josh From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 03:50:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10098 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 03:50:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 9812 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 03:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 03:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 68629 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 03:50:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408035012.68628.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.133 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:50:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.133] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:50:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the new paul oakenfold cd "global underground 002 new york" is hella phat. his other one "tranceport" is good too. LuSh SnOOpiE >From: JanetBoy7@aol.com >Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Music suggestions? >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:33:39 EDT > > >In a message dated 4/7/99 7:10:28 PM, mcarey@triad.com writes: > ><> > > >Mee too! any one know of some good house/trance/hardcore cd's?? > >Thanks! > > >~#*.:•{LoVe JanetBoy}•:.*#~ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 03:54:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13937 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 03:54:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 13921 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 03:54:51 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 03:54:51 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vIHEa10027 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:53:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:53:17 EDT Subject: Re: *the meeting spot at tiCKle 3?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HI NICOLE>.... ill be going to tickle 3, i just got my tickets today.. i'd totally like to meet ya, but im not good with meeting spots, cuz i usually lose track of time (oops) but ill be carrying a bright yellow Mr. Smiley Face man that vibrates and says...HEE HEE that tickles!!! HE's ssooo cute.. and my hair will be like Princess Lea.. see u there.. .. sPaRklEs... it was so nice meeting you scott! thanks for the necklace and the friendship bracelet!!) (((hUgS))) *niCOle*> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 04:06:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19440 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 04:06:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 19431 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 04:06:24 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 04:06:24 -0000 Received: from pm10-168.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id 2PTXR3YG; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:04:59 -0700 Message-ID: <002f01be8175$29eff120$a8c5cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: Subject: glowsticks pricing (BSP!) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:06:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01BE813A.7CF26820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BE813A.7CF26820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you have a party supply warehouse or army surplus store nearby, = they're definitely the best bet for glowsticks, especially if you just = want to get one or two. =20 for mail order purchases (the way to go if you want large quantities), = you can get 6" glowsticks for $1.59 each plus shipping/handling at = http://liberty.ispree.net (and you'll find the shipping/handling is = cheaper than qlights.com, aka glowsticks.com). =20 *plur* =3D)sooz aka libertygrl p.s. our mail server is acting up--apologies if you've gotten this = message more than once! ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BE813A.7CF26820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BE813A.7CF26820-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 04:22:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26720 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 04:22:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 26711 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 04:22:02 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 04:22:02 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vITYa08761 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:21:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <20571e6d.243d88c5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:21:25 EDT Subject: Re: live acts To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/7/99 6:15:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: << Can we just stop using the word "pimp" because it reminds me of the long hours my father and grandfather before him were forced to work, unable to find a legitamate job. Forced to act as the middle men in the oldest profession on Earth. Forced to wear large plumed hats, and talk in funny dialects. >> dont forget the goldfish platform shoes =D megatron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 04:29:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1860 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 04:29:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1838 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 04:29:01 -0000 Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 04:29:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408042943.1895.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.118.204] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:29:43 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:29:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Did someone say first party experience? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Someone suggested writing about our first party experience. I think thats a good idea. I hope more of you will write about your first experience too. I would like very much to read about your first party. The first time I went to a rave was a little bit less than three years ago. It was in the summertime in 1996. I'd recently broken up with one of my boyfriends, I was in between apartments, and I was coming down off of a very serious bad mood that had lasted for a number of years. I kind of fell into a group of people as a result of my circumstance (I needed a place to live, and I needed some new friends). I'd been spending quite a bit of time at one of my school friend's flats, and while staying there, I met a few folks who were into the rave scene. One evening, we all got dressed up in neon and sparkles and went out to a Friends and Family rave. I tried some esctacy while I was there, and my new friends and I played and played and played together and we had such a lovely time. In the morning, there was a double rainbow in the sky, and we went to a cafe and had breakfast. I was still high from the party and from the drugs. I had a really nice time, so I decided I would like to live with those people, and so I did. They are all still my friends. love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 04:44:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10733 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 04:44:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 10722 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 04:44:41 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 04:44:41 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id 3VEGa18762; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:42:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <648f3984.243d8dbe@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:42:38 EDT Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix To: Gammbino@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you can usually get green ones at hardware stores. Walmart usually has diffirent colored ones, so do stores like walmart or camping places or you could even use the internet, find a company and e-mail them for a catalog. I DID IT !!! but my catalog they said was on backorder. . . HUGZ ARYCK From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 04:45:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11759 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 04:45:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 11750 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 04:45:26 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 04:45:26 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vWCUa21235 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:43:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <1c012b9f.243d8dff@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:43:43 EDT Subject: bsp :: tonight :: progress To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: Pogobee@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk introducing... PROGRESS your residents... KJ ... Tracer ... Joseph Lee every Wednesday @ Liquid on 16th between Mission and South Van Ness From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 04:50:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14947 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 04:50:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 14938 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 04:50:53 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 04:50:53 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id 3YPAa03137 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:50:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:50:09 EDT Subject: Re: GLOWTICKS To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I love glowsticks. . . . but if the party has like phat ass black lights everywhere. . . I totally prefer white gloves, and white clothes. . . it's waaaaaaay better. . . . HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 04:52:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15938 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 04:52:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 15929 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 04:52:23 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd125.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.189) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 04:52:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 56319 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 04:51:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408045156.56318.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.197.162 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:51:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.197.162] From: "sHaWn ." To: mcarey@triad.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:51:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Check out the new SUNKINGS Cd, thats some great downtempo trippy trance music. www.blueroomusa.com > > >Hey anybody got any music suggestions lately? I'm looking for really >good trippy downtempo music (ie- blue room stuff) Also trying lookin for >some trance with good rolling bass lines, and really good percussion >(not standard tst-boom-tst-boom-tst) Not too synth-y yet not overkill on >the NRG sounds either. > >Any other suggestions are appreciated but these are my main focus. Oh >yeah prefered medium is 12" vinyl baby, if you hadn't figured that out >of course ;-) > >=) >MooK<>< > > > >ps- yes I am just trying to spark some constructive discussions, but hey >maybe it'll work and I can get some worthwhile info out of it too. =P > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 04:59:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19341 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 04:59:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 19227 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 04:59:14 -0000 Received: from ns1.gp1holdings.com (root@209.31.236.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 04:59:14 -0000 Received: from [172.29.18.219] (toscana-209-79-56-111.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.79.56.111]) by ns1.gp1holdings.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA29330 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:49:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1c012b9f.243d8dff@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:02:58 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: jason Subject: Re: bsp :: tonight :: progress Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >introducing... >PROGRESS > >your residents... >KJ ... Tracer ... Joseph Lee > >every Wednesday @ Liquid >on 16th between Mission and South Van Ness Speaking of which... sounds very cool. Tonight is the first night and Johnny is gonna be spinning all night. I'd be there, but I'm not feeling well tonight. :( J. ....................... cognitive@iname.com "Homer no function beer well icq sucks without." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:04:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22025 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:04:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 22004 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:04:46 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd111.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:04:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 2345 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 05:04:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408050419.2344.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.197.162 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:04:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.197.162] From: "sHaWn ." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP:4/23/99 Fuz.e Brings You Digital Dreams!!!! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:04:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On April 23 1999 Fuz.e productions along with the Harmony Crew bring you DIGITAL DREAMS!!!!! 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Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:14:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26280 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:14:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 26252 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:13:58 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:13:58 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA20879 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:13:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smx-ca7-39.ix.netcom.com(207.92.172.167) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020790; Thu Apr 8 00:13:11 1999 Message-ID: <370837F5.6965@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:12:47 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Steve Loria Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I talked to DJ Tony and he said that his flight got cancled. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:15:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27072 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:15:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 27062 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:15:22 -0000 Received: from f269.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.160) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:15:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 30849 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 05:14:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408051434.30848.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:14:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: anarchy@galaxy.galstar.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Real internet accounts Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:14:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In defense of hotmail (and other such services) ... I have moved 13 times in the last 5 years. If you stay put, maybe it's ok to use your ISP address. For anyone who moves a lot, publishing your ISP address is a nightmare. Do you have any idea what a pain in the butt it is constantly trying to tell everyone you know what your current email address is??? To be honest, my ISP (home.net by the way) offers e-mail and I don't even use it for exactly this reason. I just wish there was a similar type of service for phone numbers and postal mail. That would save me a lot of headaches. Others have made good points about being able to read mail from home or work or anywhere, keeping controversial (translate: drug-related) mail out of your work mailbox, and keeping sfraves's massive message load out of your regular email, so I won't argue those points. By the way, even though I post from hotmail, I post under my real name, unlike most people here. Not only that but my real name is *unique* -- as far as I know I'm the only Wayne Radinsky on earth. My name isn't "John Smith" or anything like that. So if some current or future employer (for example) punches my name into an internet search engine or whatever, and finds all my posts, I have nowhere to hide. I feel I'm sticking my neck out FAR more by using my RL name than I would be if I were just posting from an ISP account. Who else posts by their real name? I can only think of a few, like John Rodriguez, Greg Sandler, Jim Maze, and Karina Powers. If I were to start over, I would make up a name, but since so many people on here already know my name I've decided to stick with it so you all don't get confused. By the way, Cisco Systems rocks!! I bought a little bit of their stock in 1996 and even way back then I was kicking myself for not getting in sooner. Damn I wish Red Hat was public, I can't find their stock listed anywhere and they're taking off like a rocket. Some things are just too predictable. Wayne ---------- >From: "U.A.A." >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: NRR: Real internet accounts >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:00:13 -0500 (CDT) > >The Internet is a relatively young and new way tool for communication. It has >never been easier to find information or keep in contact with friends. > >That is the beauty of it. > >And this is what I say to you. > >If you only have a Hotmail, Prodigy, or AOL account, seriously consider >finding a real ISP in your area and get an account. > >Why should it matter? This is why. If you are going to be an >active part of the online community, then commit yourself to an account. >Support the Internet by supporting one of the ISP's that makes up the >Internet. Become a Netizen. > >Contrary to popular belief. Al Gore did not create the Internet nor did AOL >have any part of it. AOL existed outside of the Internet for many years, >and if for some reason the Internet disappeared tomorrow, AOL would still have >their own active network. > >Having a real ISP account shows and says that you have an active interest >in the Internet, and are willing to keep it alive. > >The Internet is relatively young and new. Rules and standards we set today will >most likely define how the Internet will be used in the future. We need to be >pro-active about this, instead of waiting for someone else to do it. >Especially when there is no one else. If we the users of the Internet don't >take control, then it is going to be people who DON'T user it who are going >to make all the rules. > >It is more than just a way to get email and surf pr0n sites. It really is the >last bastion of freedom and liberties in the world. Where else in the world >can you make a website, saying almost anything you want, and have people come toyou to hear (read) what you have to say. > >Did you know there are Judges out there, who don't own a computer, and have >never used the Internet before, making decisions on Internet Law! They are >setting precedence on a subject they know nothing about. > >Learn about what really goes on and then spread that knowledge to your friends >and family. Understand yourself, then help others understand as well. > >There are still millions of people out there who don't have email address, >and even more who do, but still don't know how to use it or surf the web. > >Knowledge is power. = ) > >You all are in positions to be teachers to those less informed. > >I don't like AOL nor do I use it, but it does have it's place. AOL reaches >millions of people and gets them their first experience on the Internet. >But I look at it like training wheels for the Internet. And I think that for >it's time for some of you to take off those training wheels. > >Another way to be an good Netizen is to support good websites. > >If you find a website you like a lot, don't just bookmark it. Send it to >friends and family. Click on their banners to help fund the site. Things like >that. You might think it doesn't make a difference, but it does! > >Essentially be a participant. Why wait for someone else to make a change >when you can do it yourself! > >If none of this interests you and you are content with what you have, thats fine >too. Just don't expect much in return from the Internet and it's netizens. > >--Herb > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little > temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > > --Benjamin Franklin Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:21:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1423 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:21:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1414 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:21:51 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:21:51 -0000 Received: from GIANNI3333@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vJEUa27158 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:20:57 -0400 (EDT) From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Message-ID: <398851f6.243d96b9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:20:57 EDT Subject: Fwd: Need help on Glo Stix To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_398851f6.243d96b9_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: GIANNI3333@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_398851f6.243d96b9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_398851f6.243d96b9_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: GIANNI3333@aol.com From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Full-name: GIANNI3333 Message-ID: <398851f6.243d9583@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:15:47 EDT Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix To: Gammbino@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: GIANNI3333@aol.com Hi Kent, We have all kinds of glowsticks at Harmonics. We're located in Santa Rosa but we can ship them to you if your not up for the drive. Take Care. Gianni, Harmonics 480 Mendocino Ave. Santa Rosa CA 95401 707 571-8747 --part1_398851f6.243d96b9_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:22:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2064 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:22:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 2050 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:22:05 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:22:05 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vSBUa19728 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:20:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <35375e1c.243d96ba@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:20:58 EDT Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh! i wanna share my experience too!! it was so great! my friend veronica took me, she had been to 2 befroe and she said it was great. i took one hit of e and even before i was feeling it i was having a GREAT time! after a while adn i was walking around i found it to be the best time i had ever had! everyone was SO great, definately spreading teh plur vibe. becasue of how great my experience was at my first rave, i decided that i wanted to be that great to everyone else at the next parties i went to. and that is how i have lived my raving life, giving back the love that i recieved at my first one!!!! love, hugs and vapor rub, trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:24:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2952 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:24:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 2943 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:24:15 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd94.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.158) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:24:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 18834 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 05:23:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408052348.18833.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.16.219.245 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:23:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.16.219.245] From: "Eric B" To: JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 05:23:48 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For those of you that like trance, the dreaming, beautiful sounding stuff, that has great builds in it and alot of energy, I recommend Trans Global Nation, and a double disc import, called The Best of Dream Dance. Theres a lot from dream dance, but the double disc sets, are really great. Anyhoo. What do ya'll prefer. shroomer-E Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:25:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4819 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:25:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 4810 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:25:34 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:25:34 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vTGJa03142 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:24:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:24:30 EDT Subject: tickle 3 meeting place!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk we have to figure out aplace to meet.... i wanna meet all of you! so lets say the water bar... at what time though??? trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:27:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6149 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:27:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6141 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:27:07 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:27:07 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vUPKa08171 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:26:24 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:26:24 EDT Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/8/99 12:29:11 AM, ejthadj@hotmail.com writes: <> Well, I think you be at alot of raves pretty soon, I recently got tons of=20 flyers and I think their on half of them?=20 So they are two people, ehe? Their always together so I thought it was one=20 person with two name? Are they just good friends or what, do they work=20 together. ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 *P*L*U*R*=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:27:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7016 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:27:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7006 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:27:57 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd124.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:27:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 78858 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 05:27:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408052729.78857.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.16.219.245 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:27:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.16.219.245] From: "Eric B" To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: speaking of aids Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 05:27:28 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmmm speaking of that, I've heard, and I hate to throw in a bad vibe, but this deeply concerns me, and though it may only be a rumor, or it may have been talked about in hear before, The whole being poked by a needle at a rave has really wigged me out. Anyone experienced this first hand, or whats the deal. I mean its just awful. And like its not easy to sneak things into raves. I think raves should start requiring metal detectors or something, cause thats just awful.... shroomer-E Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 05:41:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11583 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 05:41:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 11564 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 05:41:27 -0000 Received: from f94.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.200) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 05:41:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 97221 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 05:41:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408054119.97220.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:41:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: violet69me@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 22:41:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This news article today reminded of this post. http://www.msnbc.com/news/255711.asp Remember, drugs aren't the only thing that can cause this kind of thing to happen. Just being tired and driving is dangerous too. I've never fallen asleep driving but there's been a few times driving home from raves where I was more tired than I should have been. By the way, I have lots of personal friends on this list and, even though we can't bring back the two girls who died (who I didn't know... but I feel really really bad for them and for Eva who wrote this message, wish I knew what to say but really I don't)... anyway I really want all of YOU to be around "forever"... so be careful, k? wayne ---------- >From: "A VeRy PuRpLe CLiT" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:03:32 PST > >(i think this is really worth reading.. its soo sad and sumthing to >think about next time u get fried or jeopardize your own or any of your >friends' lives) > ><3lana > >In a message dated 3/25/99 5:04:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, ChibaAngeI >writes: > >> >> hey everyone...please read all of this... >> this is eva...something very sad happened this past weekend, and most >of >> you probably already know what i am >> talking about. This past Saturday night, four girls of Walnut High >> School went to the Lilliput rave which ended at 5:30 A.M. on Sunday >> morning. They were all on "e" (ecstacy)at the rave, and on the drive >> home, they were drunk and coming down from their "E". Lynn Chen, Suel >> Lee, Julie and Shion were all in the car at the time. Lynn fell >asleep >> on the wheel and crashed into a tree at Mt. Sac College. This fatal >car >> crash killed two of those four girls (Lynn Chen and Suel Lee), one of >> which is my close friend (Lynn). Julie and Shion who were sitting in >the >> back seat were able to be dragged out of the car by other people, but >> Suel and Lynn weren't able to make it before the car blew up and the >car >> burned... Julie's face, body and hair were burned severely, and Shion >is >> still in critical condition in the hospital with a broken back bone, >and >> the doctors are not yet sure if she is paralyzed or not. >> Lynn and Suel both just turned 18 no more then 2 weeks ago...they >> had their whole life ahead of them but fucked it up over some shit >> rave...I just got back 10 minutes ago from visiting the site where >the >> car crashed...i saw the tree...there were soooo many candles and so >much >> flowers...someone made a poster for them with their picture on >it...it >> was incredible. What was weird was that the girls were on their way >to >> Suel's house...just down the street. Suel lived in Timberline, which >is >> literally no more than 2 minutes driving distance...if they would >have >> just been more awake, more careful, for just 2 more minutes...they >would >> all be okay right now...this tragedy would not have happened. >> Okay guys...i'm not writing this for nothing...there's a reason >> behind me sitting here, crying my eyes out in front of a computer >> telling u about 4 girls that most of u (webbies) don't even know. >> PLEASE...think twice before u do anything...through this experience i >> had a wake up call...maybe it was from God, or maybe it was just a >> reminder to us all...PLEASE make the right choices...even a little >thing >> like going to a rave can end up with something as bad as a fatal car >> crash, which none of them deserved. Another thing that gave me the >wake >> up call: i could have also been one to be in that car Sunday morning. >> Lynn had asked me to go with her to this rave, because i was supposed >to >> go to the "Wake and Bake" rave but wasn't able to make it...i didn't >go >> with her this time because i was going Palm Springs...i was so close >to >> being in that car...it makes me think how lucky i am...It also made >me >> realize that death isn't as far as we would like it to be...so >> PLEASE..i'm BEGGING ALL of you...PLEASE be good...take care of >> yourself...i'm only sending this to u because i care....and believe >me, >> honest to God, i do...BE GOOD, okay? I might sound like a hypocrite >to >> some of you since some of u know all the shit that i do...but after >> this...shit...i'm gonna try to stop everything...i miss lynn sooo >> much....i hope that in sharing this with all of u tells u >> something...teaches u a lesson...be good ~ take care of yourself for >me, >> because i really honestly do care about u a lot... >> >> *~*In Memory of Lynn Chen and Suel Lee...March 14, 1999...May God >Rest >> Their Souls...R.I.P...143 Lynn...637*~* > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 06:15:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24790 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 06:15:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24781 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 06:15:06 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 06:15:06 -0000 Received: from dynamic36.pm03.sf3d.best.com (dynamic36.pm03.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.164]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id XAA10340; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990407231450.38879732@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:14:50 To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: Re: NRR: Where did AIDS come from In-Reply-To: <27d875ef.243d8006@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk bout a month ago the san jose mercury news ran an article about the origin of one of the several types of HIV that is commonly found (this was an Associated Press story which was on tv as well). i know the mercury news has a searchable database... u might wanna try there or the chronicles database. u should get all the great stuff. -mike At 11:44 PM 4/7/99 EDT, Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: >Hello All, >I'm doing a project for a sociology class on the history of AIDS. I've tried >all the search engines I know of (Yahoo,lycos, and infoseek) but they have >all this info on preventing AIDS what AIDS is but nothing on the history of >it. If anyone can help me find out any info please E-mail me ASAP. >Everyone have a great weekend, >LaalKuchaa > > Have a little **FAITH** Mike Galetto Club Faith http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 06:22:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27524 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 06:22:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 27490 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 06:22:03 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 06:22:03 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (1Cust245.tnt1.sfo1.da.uu.net [208.250.183.245]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03587; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990407232335.0074512c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:23:35 -0700 To: "Macadio G." , ejthadj@hotmail.com, Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: swati shah Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? In-Reply-To: <19990408001530.43677.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Personally, I really enjoy the Happy Kids, Marty and Ian. Marty's set at beatdown sundaze a couple weeks ago was amazing. and he enjoys it so much. you can see his enthusiam as he spins, and i love that. Ian's tape, Supersnatchural, was an eye-opener for me. I had no idea he was that talented!! I regret every set of his that I have missed, because he kicks ass!! As my friend said, he's the Science of trance. and of course, anyone who knows me knows i love thomas trouble to death. every party i've heard him at, i've been sober, and he's taken me higher than anyone. his ability to energized my starving, exhausted body at 3am after hours and hours of dancing is incredible. and i gotta represent the chicago ghetto house!! DJ Funk rocks!!!!! alright, good night, swati From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 06:36:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4714 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 06:36:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 4691 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 06:36:14 -0000 Received: from f96.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.215) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 06:36:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 37564 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 06:36:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408063655.37563.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:36:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: more flyer art Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:36:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone! More flyer art for ya! By the way, *please* send me a message if you see pictures that you like (or don't like or otherwise want to comment on)... Unless people send me messages, I have no way of knowing if you even see the pictures! Thanks! "Destiny" 1 & 2... These are supposed to be "Quest" style flyers... I couldn't say "Quest" so I called them "Destiny" hehehe... anyway, just a photo and title, but I did some subtle color effects: http://www.spod-ware.com/destiny.jpg http://www.spod-ware.com/destiny2.jpg So now you all know your Destiny... hehehe "Numinesce"... The luminescent Taj Mahal. I made the word "Numinesce" by combining "numinous" with "luminesce"... did that work?? I actually attempted this 3 times, 3 different ways, and my first attemp, shown here, is the best, but still not good. The problem is the edges of the Taj don't come out blended properly with the night sky (which was day in the original photo). I'll try again sometime. http://www.spod-ware.com/numinesce.jpg "Pizazz"... Pizazz is really just a pun on the word "Piza". Also known as the floating tower of Piza. http://www.spod-ware.com/pizazz.jpg "Like Minds"... This is supposed to appear dream-like, a distant memory, like it's percolating up from your subconscious... (I like the word "percolating" :) Photo of Japanese twins on the beach. http://www.spod-ware.com/likeminds.jpg "The Metternich Arrival Version"... I dunno why that's the first name that popped into my head when I made this. Maybe I was just getting tired of 1-word names. Anyway, it's a picture of 3 statues, but one is emphasized so much you can hardly seethe other two. http://www.spod-ware.com/metter.jpg Finally, "Silhouette", which is a very dark silhouette of a house and some palm trees. Only the sky has any color. http://www.spod-ware.com/silhouette.jpg Ok, now some non-flyer pictures. I got "Evil Martha" which is funny (I think) because the ripples I added to the image make Martha (Martha Stewart) look like she has an evil grin. hehehe. http://www.spod-ware.com/evilmartha.jpg Then there's my rave background for Windows. This is a self-overlapping picture of some mountains with a road in the foreground, rendered in deep red and blue. It looked to me like it captured the spirit of rave. Note this is a big GIF and if you're on a slow link it will take you longer to grab this one. http://www.spod-ware.com/rave1.gif Ok, that's it for graphics. Unless you are a friend of Toof in which case you might want to see "Toof in Hong Kong", which I made for my cool friend Toof. (Yes she's seen it and likes it :) http://www.spod-ware.com/toofinhk.jpg Hokay that's it for now :) Quite a bit this time. WaynerZ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 06:56:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12906 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 06:56:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12895 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 06:56:36 -0000 Received: from law-f215.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 06:56:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 32285 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 06:56:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408065609.32284.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:56:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: dat_dj@hotmail.com, andy@saturn5.com, dj_boywonder@hotmail.com, isaacl@divi.com, Ravergrl27@aol.com, macadio@hotmail.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, X2Nyte@aol.com Subject: ***BSP** DISCOVERY-Tommorrow !!!!!!! Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:56:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So, I am throwing this party tommorrow night!!!!!! Woo hoo. Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You see there is a man behind the man on this one and it's me. Yes this is my second attempt at this event. . . .It's GOING TO ROCK!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSS!!!!!! I am soooo happy that you are soo amped about this one. In any case I will be there with my Lami around my neck. I will be taking your money at the door. . . I can also guide you to the other SFR listers so you can all meet and hang out together and dance your asses off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. This is the info again, but it's better late than never!!!! Thursday, April 8th - Harmonics presents DISCOVERY Room 1 - techouseandtranceprogressive , Erik Brown (Rebirth, Magik), Urn (Harmonics, Sparkle) & Logik (NBC, Sparkle) 2x4, Ryan Wilber (NBC, Sparkle) & Jay Walker (NBC, Sparkle) 2x4, Mars & Mystere (F-8 sf) on 2x4, Room 2 - downbeatjumpupjungleandbass, R2 Witco(NBC, Sparkle), Russell G. (Harmony, NBC, Sparkle), J-Bot (special downbeat set) (Harmony, Harmonics), Room 3 justgoodhousemusicforhouseheads, Greg Sandler (Harmony, Harmonics), More TBA . . . ... 21 to drink, two full bars. 3 rooms of thundering 20,000 watt sound. 9pm-4am, 18+, $5. 120 Fifth St, Santa Rosa,. 707.571.8747 So, I'll see you all there, it's mine and Greg's party and we hope that all our efforts to bring the bay to Santa Rosa have succeeded. I think that if you all show up with a positive vibe and rock the house tomorrow night we can show the people in Santa Rosa what we are all about..... So come with your positive vibes and your good attitudes and we will show you a super good time . . . Peace and Love Raoul :) ;p Trancebaby. . . . Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 06:57:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14676 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 06:57:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 14527 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 06:57:30 -0000 Received: from law-f51.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 06:57:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 83138 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 06:58:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408065815.83137.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.162.48.38 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:58:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.162.48.38] From: "Mandi Girl" To: waynerad@hotmail.com, violet69me@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 23:58:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Two years ago a girl from my school died because she fell asleep at the wheel. She had stayed up all night at a church sleepover, and on the way home she fell asleep and hit a car head on. I know that make a choice about drinking and driving is serious, but so is tiredness. Please make sure that you are fully concious whenever driving. Much love Mandi P.S. Eva, I am really sorry about your friend. > >This news article today reminded of this post. > >http://www.msnbc.com/news/255711.asp > >Remember, drugs aren't the only thing that can cause this >kind of thing to happen. Just being tired and driving is >dangerous too. I've never fallen asleep driving but there's >been a few times driving home from raves where I was more tired >than I should have been. > >By the way, I have lots of personal friends on this list and, >even though we can't bring back the two girls who died (who >I didn't know... but I feel really really bad for them and for >Eva who wrote this message, wish I knew what to say but really I >don't)... anyway I really want all of YOU to be around "forever"... >so be careful, k? > >wayne >---------- >>From: "A VeRy PuRpLe CLiT" >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad >>Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:03:32 PST >> >>(i think this is really worth reading.. its soo sad and sumthing to >>think about next time u get fried or jeopardize your own or any of >your >>friends' lives) >> >><3lana >> >>In a message dated 3/25/99 5:04:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, >ChibaAngeI >>writes: >> >>> >>> hey everyone...please read all of this... >>> this is eva...something very sad happened this past weekend, and >most >>of >>> you probably already know what i >am >>> talking about. This past Saturday night, four girls of Walnut >High >>> School went to the Lilliput rave which ended at 5:30 A.M. on >Sunday >>> morning. They were all on "e" (ecstacy)at the rave, and on the >drive >>> home, they were drunk and coming down from their "E". Lynn Chen, >Suel >>> Lee, Julie and Shion were all in the car at the time. Lynn fell >>asleep >>> on the wheel and crashed into a tree at Mt. Sac College. This >fatal >>car >>> crash killed two of those four girls (Lynn Chen and Suel Lee), >one of >>> which is my close friend (Lynn). Julie and Shion who were sitting >in >>the >>> back seat were able to be dragged out of the car by other people, >but >>> Suel and Lynn weren't able to make it before the car blew up and >the >>car >>> burned... Julie's face, body and hair were burned severely, and >Shion >>is >>> still in critical condition in the hospital with a broken back >bone, >>and >>> the doctors are not yet sure if she is paralyzed or not. >>> Lynn and Suel both just turned 18 no more then 2 weeks >ago...they >>> had their whole life ahead of them but fucked it up over some >shit >>> rave...I just got back 10 minutes ago from visiting the site >where >>the >>> car crashed...i saw the tree...there were soooo many candles and >so >>much >>> flowers...someone made a poster for them with their picture on >>it...it >>> was incredible. What was weird was that the girls were on their >way >>to >>> Suel's house...just down the street. Suel lived in Timberline, >which >>is >>> literally no more than 2 minutes driving distance...if they would >>have >>> just been more awake, more careful, for just 2 more >minutes...they >>would >>> all be okay right now...this tragedy would not have happened. >>> Okay guys...i'm not writing this for nothing...there's a >reason >>> behind me sitting here, crying my eyes out in front of a computer >>> telling u about 4 girls that most of u (webbies) don't even know. >>> PLEASE...think twice before u do anything...through this >experience i >>> had a wake up call...maybe it was from God, or maybe it was just >a >>> reminder to us all...PLEASE make the right choices...even a >little >>thing >>> like going to a rave can end up with something as bad as a fatal >car >>> crash, which none of them deserved. Another thing that gave me >the >>wake >>> up call: i could have also been one to be in that car Sunday >morning. >>> Lynn had asked me to go with her to this rave, because i was >supposed >>to >>> go to the "Wake and Bake" rave but wasn't able to make it...i >didn't >>go >>> with her this time because i was going Palm Springs...i was so >close >>to >>> being in that car...it makes me think how lucky i am...It also >made >>me >>> realize that death isn't as far as we would like it to be...so >>> PLEASE..i'm BEGGING ALL of you...PLEASE be good...take care of >>> yourself...i'm only sending this to u because i care....and >believe >>me, >>> honest to God, i do...BE GOOD, okay? I might sound like a >hypocrite >>to >>> some of you since some of u know all the shit that i do...but >after >>> this...shit...i'm gonna try to stop everything...i miss lynn sooo >>> much....i hope that in sharing this with all of u tells u >>> something...teaches u a lesson...be good ~ take care of yourself >for >>me, >>> because i really honestly do care about u a lot... >>> >>> *~*In Memory of Lynn Chen and Suel Lee...March 14, 1999...May God >>Rest >>> Their Souls...R.I.P...143 Lynn...637*~* >> > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 07:16:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22945 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 07:16:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 22928 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 07:16:06 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 07:16:06 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vNOSa08748 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:15:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:15:29 EDT Subject: Re : NRR ORIGIN OF AIDS * Thanks everyone :) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to everyone who E-mailed me privately and to those who posted on the list about where I can find more information on the origin of AIDS. I found them all very helpful. One person E-mailed me that AIDS came from monkeys and that some people ate monkey thats how humans got it. From my research on the subject while this is sort of true, I would just like to clarify this statement. Scientists now believe that AIDS first appeared in Africa. There have been many theories to try to explain the origin of AIDS, but the truth is no one has any evidence stating definitely that this is where it came from. But the one I found interesting was the "kinky-African-sex-theory" - thir words not mine. It involves a bizare sexual practice where, to heighten sexual arousal, male and female members of tribes in Central Africa introduce monkey blood into their pubic areas, thighs and backs. The Laal Kuchaaa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 07:17:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24254 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 07:17:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24245 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 07:17:35 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 07:17:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (smilez@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26892 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smilez@elephant.zo.com) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:17:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Christina Pensinger To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990407232335.0074512c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk my favortie dj is LI!!!! But I also love ellen ferrato, greg sandler, jeno, spun, simon and tony........but of course li is my all my all time favorite ever since harmony innersence in March 98. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 08:26:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20818 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 08:26:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 20722 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 08:26:08 -0000 Received: from f180.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 08:26:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 41590 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 08:25:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408082510.41589.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.1.111.213 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:25:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.1.111.213] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: mcarey@triad.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:25:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk M<>< said: >Hey anybody got any music suggestions lately? I'm looking for really >good trippy downtempo music (ie- blue room stuff) Also trying lookin for >some trance with good rolling bass lines, and really good percussion >(not standard tst-boom-tst-boom-tst) Not too synth-y yet not overkill on >the NRG sounds either. Yeah, actually, if you want trance with really cool percussion, I got some on one of my goa CD's. It was (I presume) mixed from vinyl so you should be able to find it out there: The Second Room (A-Trip) by X-DREAM and Plastomer 1 by KURO -- these two tracks are **awesome**awesome**awesome** I heard them off a goa mix CD by J. K. Meedom. I also have a jungle recommendation for anyone else who is interested: Spice (God's Mix) by Aphrodite. Best jungle track in my collection (so far; it's growing :)... Wayne ------------ ---------- >From: "Mook" >To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" >Subject: Music suggestions? >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:14:29 -0700 > > >Hey anybody got any music suggestions lately? I'm looking for really >good trippy downtempo music (ie- blue room stuff) Also trying lookin for >some trance with good rolling bass lines, and really good percussion >(not standard tst-boom-tst-boom-tst) Not too synth-y yet not overkill on >the NRG sounds either. > >Any other suggestions are appreciated but these are my main focus. Oh >yeah prefered medium is 12" vinyl baby, if you hadn't figured that out >of course ;-) > >=) >MooK<>< > > > >ps- yes I am just trying to spark some constructive discussions, but hey >maybe it'll work and I can get some worthwhile info out of it too. =P > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 08:51:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12144 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 08:51:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12133 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 08:51:43 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 08:51:43 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vDKIa00557 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 04:50:55 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 04:50:55 EDT Subject: umm Orbital? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/7/99 5:33:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com writes: << when i first heard orbital on HACKERS i got shivers, and tears in my eyes. i didnt know i could ever feel about musik that way. >> okey so this is one of many times ive heard people on this list say how wonderful and amazing the Orbital song from Hackers is....the prob is ive never ever heard this song! and i so want to after all this talk! can u guys tell me the name of it please? i guess thats all =) PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 08:55:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14642 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 08:55:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 14632 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 08:55:21 -0000 Received: from f78.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.184) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 08:55:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 13210 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 08:55:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408085511.13209.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.255.86.226 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:55:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.255.86.226] From: "p r" To: jvlavianos@cu-help.com, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:55:11 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmm, Talkin about that, have you listened to BT? >If you loved Haylcon&on&on by Orbital you would love Chicane's CD, "Far From >the Maddening Crowds". Music with so much emotion and feeling you just have >to break down... > >Rabbit in the Moon has also yanked quite a few tears from me over time.... > >Love & Music, >-Jay > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:31 PM >Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? > > >> when i first heard orbital on HACKERS i got shivers, and tears in my eyes. >i >> didnt know i could ever feel about musik that way. so i threw out my >> smashing pumpkins and went on a quest. to find that music and understand >> it. > > Petros Rotsides SJSU "Pan metron ariston" Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 08:55:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15290 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 08:55:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 15281 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 08:55:54 -0000 Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 08:55:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408085530.17111.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.184.204.20] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:55:30 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:55:30 -0700 (PDT) From: vlad katz Reply-To: trip008@usa.net Subject: Re: who is going to the same party i went to... To: dj _haK , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- dj _haK wrote: > who is going to the same party that i went to last > week that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that > i went to the week > before that i went to the week before that i went to > the week before > that i went to the week before that i went to the > week before that i > went to the week before that i went to the week > before that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that > i went to the week > before that i went to the week before that i went to > the week before > that i went to the week before that i went to the > week before that i > went to the week before that i went to the week > before that i went to > the week before that i went to the week before that > i went to the week > be umm, i dunno, i think i might not go this week. =) === <<>> trip008@usa.net From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 09:15:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19331 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 09:15:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 19320 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 09:15:19 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 09:15:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408091449.24559.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.19.55.2] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 02:14:49 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:14:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett James Subject: Re: fav DJ's To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello folks! psst psst mark your calendars for april 24th in Santa Cruz, time for the first field trip of the year! Ask your friends in Santa Cruz for more info closer to the time :) SPEAKING of techno and beaches and music! My favorite techno performers and djs are as follows Astral Matrix AndyW Jeff Mills Catweasel Kit Clayton Rafael The Surgeon Paul Damage and non techno, but still electronic and totally some of my favorite of all time Dj Q-Bert Dj Shortkut the Haters WELL that does it! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) ooh i could use some braised tofu From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 09:16:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20080 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 09:16:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20033 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 09:16:32 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 09:16:32 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vMJVa28464 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:15:33 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:15:33 EDT Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? and labels! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk among the big name djs/producers id have to say Quicksilver, PvD, and Nostrum as far as the locals its Li (the only dj who can get me goin with house!) and Depth (he only played at Pyramids At The Sky, but he kicked major ass! look out for him at the next ETA) and Thomas Trouble and Mars & Mystre of course =) and id like to start a new thread: what are yall favorite labels? for me the top 5 places go to: 1. TUNNEL rules! it just doesnt get any better =) 2. shared between GO FOR IT!/TIME UNLIMITED 3. shared between ADDITIVE/POSITIVA 4. HOOK RECORDINGS 5. shared between NOOM/TINRIB as u may have concluded im a trancefreak =) PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 09:35:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28287 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 09:35:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 28279 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 09:35:29 -0000 Received: from web209.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.109) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 09:35:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408093851.26087.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.19.55.2] by web209.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 02:38:51 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:38:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett James Subject: Re: the internet To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I like the internet kind of like I like narcotics and televisions and MSDN. As in, a good thing, when and only when you need it. But let someone else pay for it... cuz most of the time you dont need it ;-) Libraries work pretty good, also at libraries you can check your FREE yahoo email _and_ read sfraves digests and read a BOOK with 20 billion times more information than you can find on the web :) (and you can also pretend you are Windom Earle and read poems to high school girls for free and NOT get sent to federal prison) Like a TV, i dont think ill ever see a need to BUY the internet for my house, but i kind of like it sometimes when I need to spam a resume to every headhunter in california or find out what the weather is like outside of the library :) Or find out about big raves when I forget to pay my telephone bill. (another advantage to using internet at the LIBRARY because if your PERSONAL BELONGINGS/SERVICES are busted you gotta MOOCH!) MMM... imagine if everyone stopped buying internet and stopper buying PERSONAL shit and instead paid more taxes so the libraries could get much more kick ass shit how kick ass shit would kick so much more ass? (and shit?) I think we should share more and buy less. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 10:13:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17456 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 10:13:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 17447 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 10:13:12 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?w8mdJpsVKcQqs2etvK5mk0j48CHmm3Nl?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 10:13:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id DAA08432; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:13:06 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:13:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: phunkn3@aol.com, jujutek@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, breaks@lists.xmission.com Subject: Phuncktion SF and Re: [breaks] here's your anthem .... In-Reply-To: <199904080904.CAA12607@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Last night was the debut of Phunckateck. It's ironic. I just got done writing the SF scene report for the man like Skye's http://www.jungle.ffwd.com. I mentioned that Phunckateck's marathon long-running weekly party which was the key factor in getting me hooked on the jungle sound and really cemented the drum&bass scene in San Francisco. The weekly fell off, because weeklies are hard to do, and so many of the Phunckateck crew had moved into production, etc. However, Phunckateck is not sleeping, and they are now going to rock a weekly on Tuesday nights at the Top in the Lower Haight. Last night was awesome for a first shot, especially considering no one saw flyers or knew it was happening until late last week. Let me do a quick review. I walked in, and Juju was up on the onetwos playing records that he told me he had to dig out of his closet and dust off. One of the too-bads of the Bay Area jungle scene is that playing old tunes is generally only done in bedrooms and on the college radio shows. We have a very forward-thinking group of DJ's here, and on top of that, there are so many tunes being produced in Cali, that almost everything you'll hear in the clubs and raves is geared towards the future. The mash-up 94-96 sets that make other cities' scenes flash up the lighter just don't really get played out in SF, although if they were they would mash shit. (hinthint). So anyways, Juju plays an hour of old anthems, DJ Noel steps up and gets the floor further moving with nice new hard funky stuff. Juju and I come back on at midnight, the crowd is getting bigger, Juju starts rinsing the present tension hard shit, and I get loose a bit. Flashback: Earlier in the evening, I had been sitting at a table with the man himself the Jimmy Hat, and Mehdi walks in with only one record. First time I've ever seen this happen. What is it? says I. New Dom, says he, on promo. It's called Killa Bullet, sounds like someone actually went and made a Warhead remix. So Juju throws on new Aquasky, The Stalker, and the label (same as the Dom promo) tricked me for a second. Couple records later he dropped Killa Bullet. Hak, you are right, this record is tearin. It's funny. A lot of people have been commenting that there are no good tunes coming out right now. And I guess since all the Underfire LP and Krust LP is still living in the Music House, among others, we just have to sit back and wait. But Killa Bullet is bumpin. Not like the Dom we're used to. I mean for a lot of us, Thunder is as much geared toward the dancefloor as No Diggety rmx. But in most of America, things are sort of different, and the folks on this list are more in tune with the slamming not pop music sounds than your clientele on the floor. And Killa Bullet is accessible to the people who want some shit "with a good beat that's easy to dance to" and also gets us smartypants mugs grooving. Not real complicated, not real 22nd Century, just a moving tune, that Killa Bullet. Never got to hear the flip "Dumbo" but I like the name and that is all that matters. So...Juju played a lot of new school stuff, Noel came back on at 1, and played a lot of what I really appreciate...nasty funky sounds...the jumpup of Y2K...non-formula, original, but waist-winding drum&bass music. Noel is the first DJ who ever let me get on the mic to jungle...I guess we'll always have a connection that way. I started kicking Juvenile-type freestyles and the man mixes "Ha" over the record that was on (if that doesn't make any sense to you, get to know! You the one robbed dude out his shoes last night, ha?!) . Oh shit. All in all, it was a great time. The Top is the perfect venue for a midweek night. Great location, really cool bartenders, educated, smoothed out clientele, great male-to-female ratio, confused but smiling, head-nodding passersby who weren't expecting THE FUNK A THA FUTURE. Next week? DJ Lee from Metalheadz and Timeless Recordings, as Phunckateck brings the Tuesday night Phuncktion...to take ya ass out to luncheon. Bring your sister! 10-4, duh, max On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, hak wrote: > dom's 'killa bullet'. this is THE FUCKIN MOST TEARIN TUNE!!!!!!! most > in-fuckin sane track, just pure head bobbin, body swaying tune. i can't > beleive how bad ass this track is.............. > > hak > -- > urban_assault[99]info:408.882.5064 > www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ > friction fm @ www.imagineradio.com/ > > ________________________________________________________________________ > For help unsubscribing, email breaks-request@lists.xmission.com with > the subject "help". DO NOT SEND ADMIN REQUESTS TO THE LIST ITSELF ! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 10:27:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21338 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 10:27:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 21160 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 10:27:35 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 10:27:35 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vACKa26919 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:26:44 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <49855aaf.243dde64@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:26:44 EDT Subject: ACIDE BREakS To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone going to Acid Breaks 3 on may 1st?? PLUR greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 10:37:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24815 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 10:37:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 24807 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 10:37:53 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 10:37:53 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA22672 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990408034022.007e64b0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 03:40:22 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: re: Fav djs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk When I first heard Mars and Mystere... i did not know it was Mars and Mystere... the name meant nothing to me. I am pretty new on the scene.. and until rather recently I have never been able to put names to djs and songs and identify who is on the decks. But, when I heard them I seriously got chillss... the were 2X4 and it was one of the most intense musical experiences I've had in my life. And they continue to amaze me... and just when you were getting kind of sick of the same ol anthems.... they mix in this amazing new stuff and keep it interesting.. Maybe i just do not know enough about music to really pinpoint the phenomenom... but I do know that their music enchants me.... and if others feel the same way and wanto express it.... that doesnt necessarily invalidate all the praise towards Mars and mystere. Surely some people are just stepping on the trend of the moment bandwagon.... but that is unavoidable. Just my thoughts, Carly :) Why the recent disdain for candy kids???? :( They are cool ppl too! Love them, please. >Now I would like to know why they are so good or why you think they >are the best? Is it cause all candy ravers love Mars and Mystre or >cause you do? This is not a flame I am just curious as to why SF is >hynotized by cyber trance is it the old "Everyone else likes it so I >guess I do too" or cause of people have had a lot of exposure to >trance and feel mike and eric play the best? >Thanks, >Macadio *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 11:27:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5549 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 11:27:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 5538 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 11:27:23 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 11:27:23 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id iLZRa02368; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:24:38 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:24:38 EDT Subject: Re: speaking of aids To: ejthadj@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As far as i am concerned and people i know that have gone for years say that it is one of those urban legends....it may happen once in a while but if you are with good friends that dont leave you stranded when you are passing out then you shouldnt worry at all.....anyone else??? PLUR gre From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 12:50:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28184 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 12:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 28175 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 12:50:34 -0000 Received: from web207.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 12:50:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408125035.21640.rocketmail@web207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.100.191.9] by web207.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 05:50:35 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:50:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Re: umm Orbital? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: AlexG1029@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "Halcyon and on and on" Steve =) --- AlexG1029@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/7/99 5:33:55 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com > writes: > > << when i first heard orbital on HACKERS i got > shivers, and tears in my eyes. > i > didnt know i could ever feel about musik that way. > >> > > okey so this is one of many times ive heard people > on this list say how > wonderful and amazing the Orbital song from Hackers > is....the prob is ive > never ever heard this song! and i so want to after > all this talk! can u guys > tell me the name of it please? i guess thats all =) > > PeAcE OuT > alEx =.) > === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 13:33:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10853 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 13:33:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 10843 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 13:33:18 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 13:33:18 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.144] (kenya-144.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.144]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25792; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:32:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:37:38 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Thu) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... To be genuinely successful in your work, you have to know that you work in cooperation with many forces, and your task is only to do your part, then let go. ---Belinda Gore ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 15:08:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22441 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 15:08:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 22430 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 15:08:19 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?hT1M9KsqeGxEbKgdoOtOFKV2H815KDyu?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 15:08:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id IAA26487 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:08:18 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:08:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: if you thought *I* was un-PC... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk We have had a thread going about supermodels brocking out, and fashion shows with drum&bass and top10 catwalk tunes and top10 swimsuit modelling tunes, and all this ridiculous "For the Cause" shit. And then DJ Wisc said he thought fashion shows would pick a bunch of what he called Carebear jungle tracks that DJ Casper would play, and subsequently insinuated that he could mack more ladies than DJ Casper. Now you are up to date. I know it's sort of fucked up to make jokes based off other people's suffering, but I thought this was pretty entertaining. Make PLUR not War, soldiers. 10-4, duh, max ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:37:01 -0400 From: Ian_G_Melven@xxxxxxxxx.com To: for-the-cause@xxxxxx.com Subject: Re: [ftc] D & B and dubplates when i think care bears i think HAPPY HARDCORE speaking of which.. the other day we came up with an idea.. the tent city of several thousand albanian refugees in macedonia.. we are going to air drop white gloves and whistles and horns to them and put on a huge free happy hardcore party cause i figure they need some uplifting tunes right now and they have a tent city in the middle of fields etc. so basically all they need is music to make it a RAVE the code name for this mission is "operation allied rave to sustain hope" send all donations to support this cause to me thanks plus.. quinton is cutting again in boston.. his dubplates are coming out better than ever, he got a new mixing desk etc. etc. and he is serious about getting back into cutting dubs all the time.. i cut 10 tunes with him over the past 2 nights and they are sounding LOUD and CRISP.. $30 for 2 sides of a 10" and i think it's $40 for 2 sides of a 12".. i have tried or heard plates from most places i know of in the us (richard simpson in la, aardvark in colorado, jah freedom in philly, etc.) and his are definitely competitive in LOUDNESS and sound quality.. he is looking to start up doing mail order stuff again.. contact me if you're interested.. or just come to boston ;) ian ***********that was the to the following message************** Please respond to anecelle@xxxxxxxx.com To: for-the-cause@xxxxxxxx.com Subject: Re: [ftc] D & B > 1) the music being played should coincide with the statement the designer is > trying to make so if they want puffy clouds and carebears, then sure, have julz (DJ Casper) > play. :) > > 2) i definitely think i could pull more women than julz. :) > > chris / dj wisc From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 15:16:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25676 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 15:16:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 25664 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 15:16:29 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 15:16:29 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id IAA14939; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990408151553.009c8054@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 08:15:53 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Isaac Labugen Subject: Discovery Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello people, I hope many of you will support "Discovery" tonight. It's going to be a excellent evening for music and many of our hometown heroes will be spinning all out. I'm told it's going to be one to remember. I'll see ya all there. peace&love, isaac:) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 15:52:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20756 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 15:52:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 20623 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 15:51:59 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 15:51:59 -0000 Received: from godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.44]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id LAA01246; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id LAA09212; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:43:46 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla3.acpub.duke.edu To: Joaqman cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? In-Reply-To: <19990407233734.19738.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have a few favorites... house dj's - feelgood (baltimore) and halo (chicago) jungle - j-smooth (phili) and freaky flow (ontario) and of course, my all time favortite - kid nemo (hehe) much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 16:05:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28718 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 16:05:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28697 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 16:05:23 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 16:05:23 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.119] (madmax-39.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.39]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA02717 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:06:14 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk They don't come off. Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 16:27:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13947 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 16:27:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 13938 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 16:26:58 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 16:26:58 -0000 Received: from BabyChinoZ@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vMHBa19728 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:26:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:26:13 EDT Subject: NRR:MindGames To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok so ma friend brings the book over to ma house called MindGames. Basicly it's a way for you and your friends to tap into your subconcious and learn more about yourself. We tried it out.... and man was it intense! It's like a natural body high! I recomend this to any group of friends. You all go out pitch in a few bucks... and learn more about yourself and each other in 20 minuets than you ever have! Peace -tyson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 16:38:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23947 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 16:38:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 23916 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 16:38:42 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 16:38:42 -0000 Received: from BabyChinoZ@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vXHDa19903 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:37:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:37:25 EDT Subject: NRR: ><{{{,> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So i was in the super-market, wonder why it's so damn super! So I'm pick up some groceries for the house. Cereal, cookies, cheese, vitamins, meat, and you know other yummy things for ma well balanced raver diet! I got's to watch ma figure. I'm zipping up and down the isles because i push the cart and then jump on it. So i'm on ma way to pick up some ground beef, and i turn to see da Sea-Food section. And sitting under the glass is this dead fish. I mean it was kind of cute, and then it happened. I starting CRYING. Not just a few tears! I mean streams. The lady working the Sea-Food counter runs over to me and asks what's the matter. I shout at the top of ma lungs "I WANT MA FOOLISH FISH!" Then i just run out of the store crying! So if someone can... could they go to the Not-so-Super-Market, cause seeing that dead fish is just too painful for me to see! A Sad Lost Little Kid -tyson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 16:45:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27569 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 16:45:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 27496 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 16:45:17 -0000 Received: from law-f83.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.146) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 16:45:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 29357 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 16:44:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408164450.29356.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.196.204.149 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:44:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.196.204.149] From: "michael waldren" To: Sacraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Girls:NRR Please read Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:44:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: Hanglu2400@aol.com >Reply-To: Hanglu2400@aol.com >To: chocolate976@hotmail.com >Subject: Fwd: here read this >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:15:47 EDT > > ><< message3.txt >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 16:45:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28377 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 16:45:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28328 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 16:45:42 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 16:45:42 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-18.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.18]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00679 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990408151814.006c9d54@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:18:14 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: umm Orbital? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ahh yes and it goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.. maybe theres some mp3 site that has the song if you don't wanna buy a cd ... though it might be a bit of a d/l (it's about 10 minutes on the cd.) Ja Mata Ne! Peasuuu! NukuNuku At 05:50 AM 4/8/99 -0700, you wrote: >"Halcyon and on and on" > >Steve =) > >--- AlexG1029@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 4/7/99 5:33:55 PM Pacific >> Daylight Time, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com >> writes: >> >> << when i first heard orbital on HACKERS i got >> shivers, and tears in my eyes. >> i >> didnt know i could ever feel about musik that way. >> >> >> >> okey so this is one of many times ive heard people >> on this list say how >> wonderful and amazing the Orbital song from Hackers >> is....the prob is ive >> never ever heard this song! and i so want to after >> all this talk! can u guys >> tell me the name of it please? i guess thats all =) >> >> PeAcE OuT >> alEx =.) >> > >=== >"Stupid people just puzzle me." > Vitaly Golomb > >"What we have here is failure to communicate." > The warden in Cool Hand Luke > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 16:46:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 670 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 16:46:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 657 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 16:46:48 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 16:46:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408165049.28326.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.209.3.180] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:50:49 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:50:49 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: favorite tapes??? a suggestion?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk since i'm new, i haven't heard too many of the local dj's yet, but i did get to hear andy w and greg (i dunno his last name) and both were pretty good. does either of them have a tape out?? which brings me to my next question... what are everyones favorite "new" tapes?? i'm looking for something in the trance or techno genre's and i'm not too into mars or mystere. i want suggestions so i can go out and buy some new tapes. thanks. -john From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 16:52:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6755 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 16:52:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6636 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 16:52:51 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 16:52:51 -0000 Received: from BabyChinoZ@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vOGCa28464 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:52:19 -0400 (EDT) From: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:52:19 EDT Subject: NNR: MindGames cont. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok... I realize only now that i left out some importaint info... but i don't know it cause ma buddy took the book to work so he can find some cool "games" for us to play tonite. I know you can find the book .... at probably most any book store. I'm not sure of the author... but i read a little of the preface. >From what i remember MindGames is a repring of a book done by the same author to help explore your subconciouse while on Acid. The reprinting DOSE NOT require to have any expierience with acid AND you DON"T have to be on acid for it to work. It's achieved by basicly going into a trance like dream state. One person reads to the group and you picture things based on what input is given by the reader. Every session is differnt because it depents on what time of day, who's there, how your feeling... ect. I really recomend this for all peeps out there to at least look at or for this BOOK! =) Read and Enlighten your Minds Expand into one (somethin i remember from our session) -tyson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 17:21:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24424 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 17:21:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 24415 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 17:21:13 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 17:21:13 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27358; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA23834; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:19:32 GMT Message-ID: <00e301be81e4$d0144af0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> From: "Mook" To: "sHaWn ." , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:25:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Acutally I just got that CD and that plus the tracks on the Signs of life Album Vol1 is the kind of stuff I was looking for. Thanx =) M<>< "Memories are not a renewable resource." --S.S. -----Original Message----- From: sHaWn . To: mcarey@triad.com ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:50 PM Subject: Re: Music suggestions? >Check out the new SUNKINGS Cd, thats some great downtempo trippy trance >music. >www.blueroomusa.com > >>Hey anybody got any music suggestions lately? I'm looking for really >>good trippy downtempo music (ie- blue room stuff) Also trying lookin for >>some trance with good rolling bass lines, and really good percussion >>(not standard tst-boom-tst-boom-tst) Not too synth-y yet not overkill on >>the NRG sounds either. >> >>Any other suggestions are appreciated but these are my main focus. Oh >>yeah prefered medium is 12" vinyl baby, if you hadn't figured that out >>of course ;-) >> >>=) >>MooK<>< >> >> >> >>ps- yes I am just trying to spark some constructive discussions, but hey >>maybe it'll work and I can get some worthwhile info out of it too. =P >> > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 17:39:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4753 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 17:39:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 4744 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 17:39:03 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?vHaP2PUlEix8w07LkIiE8uKHVMA11lCQ?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 17:39:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id KAA29965; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:38:59 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:38:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Naomi Thompson cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: BSP: That's What I'm Talkn' About! 4-9-99 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Honey B and Sifu (Thermal Recordings) and PBS Crew (Mateo, No Battles, Arch Angel Gabe Real, Buna) when: Friday 4-9-99 10p-2a who: 21+ where: Il Pirata, 2007 16th @ Potrero You know, I don't know how much it will cost, but doubtlessly not that much. And this particular spot is a timeless favorite of those who know. Big up the patiooooooooooooooooooooo! Also! Can't forget the Eklekka tonight Thursday!! with: Recon (Redemption, Oakland) Abstract (Phunckateck, Pneuma) Juju (Phunckateck, Phuncktion) bang bang 18+ at Rico's, 78 Minna St. SF check the v/m: 415-332-5800x797 or the html: www.izmedia.com/eklektic yoyoyoyo gramma and whass kickin at Audio Impact on Saturday! with: Phantom45 (Sub Base, Chicago) Rinse und Flux (Bass Kru, Compound, SF) Star Eyes (BASS Kru, Berkeley) MC Jamalski (Ruffneck Reality, NYC/SF) you have to get your tickets ahead of time, and you have to get them at Compound Records on 6 Valencia St. at Market right next to the Duboce exit off 101. call the store: 415/864-8309 for details. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 17:42:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8592 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 17:42:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 8561 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 17:42:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 17:42:28 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 302; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:40:09 -0700 Message-ID: <370CED90.771F392C@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:55:28 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MacBunny CC: Joaqman , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh god this is a hard one....so many damn good djs. Over the years Ive always loved the Wicked djs....Jeno, Garth, Thomas, and Markie. Traxx, Tony, John Howard, and Rob Doten are also some favorites. John Rodriguez Balance Productions http://www.SFHouse.com JohnR@SFHouse.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 17:52:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13989 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 17:52:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 13928 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 17:52:16 -0000 Received: from f92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 17:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22817 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 17:52:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408175233.22816.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.184 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:52:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.184] From: "JASON BRANCH" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: :> fab Duo Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:52:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: fab Djs > > Princess and Jan Cooley > They along with Danny seem to know how to make me jump no madda what. Honestly I will probably always consider Shoban my favorite. ~ filfr to rotfl or lol btw IMHO they're the bestest of the best. Ta from Pyximhn Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:02:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21688 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:02:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 21676 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:02:12 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:02:12 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id 3SFNa02379 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:59:35 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:59:35 EDT Subject: fave djs/ and mixtapes... To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone.. you know I love you all! and it depends what kind of mood I'm in but there are some djs that stick out in my mind right now Ryan Wilbur (as of my weekend of Aurora/Sparkle house has a whole new meaning for me) Science w/MC DUH Simon Apex vs. Paulina Taylor 2X4 (ok, I know these are more of my fave sets than anything else, but they ARE Djs, so yanno.. it kinda goes hand in hand) Christopher Lawrence (@WARMTH) definately anything with Jamalski anything with house or hard, danceable trance. (none of that sissy girlystuff, yo! at least not until the morning set) as for mixtapes, I like the ones that no one else has, the special ones that were recorded live because you were there, or the ones that you just happen to come across and fall in love with, even if they're old. the one's that stay in my car most often are.... Walker vs. Wilber ~> live @ sparkle LIve @ the TEknoDiva's (a two tape set compilation of Tracer/Vertigo/Mook) Wurzle ~> untitled tape Johnny 2 Bad ~> demo tape AnthonyMad ~> HappinessthruHardcore my Li tape that sort of got copied on fast forward and I have to fix it Daniel from Moontribe ~> SpiralDance (the tape that made me fall in love with Pyschedelic Trance) HappyKidMarty ~> I'm going to go back there some day (for those of you that haven't heard this it's really beautiful and different) blah blah blah.. lots of others.. anyways.. the point was to look for demo tapes or copy tapes from yer friends because you'll come across some really special ones and enjoy them forever. hugs n'stuff, trice the teknodiva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:03:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23089 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:03:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23081 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:03:21 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:03:21 -0000 Received: from NEXXUS19@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vBHLa05535 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:02:42 -0400 (EDT) From: NEXXUS19@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:02:42 EDT Subject: ? about Eklektik tonight To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 216 Reply-To: NEXXUS19@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi could someone post and or send me the line up that was sent to the list about tonights Eklektik lineup...also is it going to be 10 dollars again like when DieselBoy spun? Thanks so much Lauren From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:08:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25410 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:08:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 25400 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:08:01 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:08:01 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vBKTa26557 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:06:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:06:19 EDT Subject: Northcoast party To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Sera13@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I live up in Humboldt County (behind the redwood curtain on Highway 101 heading north), and although we are known for our deadheads and Birkenstocks there are a few kids up here that are down. Anyway, a few of us are thinking of throwing a party. The only problem with this is that the dj talent is a little scarce. What I am wondering is if any of you fine city folks feel like coming up to Hum Co to partake in a wonderful evening of hopefully good music, great atmosphere and freaks from afar(I am trying to get a bunch of my friends from the bay to come up). If you've ever been up here you already know about the beauty that this place posseses. Now, could you imagine if we added a little friendly vibe to a starry night by the ocean surrounded by old growth redwoods. I think this place has potential. Do you? There are no definite dates, yet. Please give me an email back to let me know what any of you think. Hugs from your Humboldt Honey, Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:10:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27944 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:10:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 27922 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:10:50 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:10:50 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-18.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.18]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA09997 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990408164322.006bf3bc@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:43:22 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: SRR. Anyone know.. Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know if there is a list online of all the Roule/Scratche tracks that are out? Or if they had a site...that would be nice too. Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:18:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3824 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:18:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3812 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:18:11 -0000 Received: from f91.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.197) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:18:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 32135 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 18:18:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408181843.32134.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:18:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: what aree you gonn be doin on april 20th... Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:18:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what are yer plans this year for 4/20...i know next year a few of us are gonn be in amsterdam...but this year we are at a loss at what to do......any ideas??? aaron Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:22:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6132 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:22:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 6124 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:22:31 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:22:31 -0000 Received: from nbjay (209-239-198-209.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.209]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11113 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00a501be81ea$d4e6d2e0$14019696@nbjay> From: "Jay" To: References: <19990408085511.13209.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:08:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Of course ;) BT is a mover and shaker as well. Its funny, when talking about artists... they fall into a category; "So and So is really good trance" or "La La La is kick ass jungle!", but when talking about BT the sentence always comes up... "BT is just..... BT". Its true, his style is so wide and varied that placing him in a certain genre can't be done! Still waiting to see him and uberzone live (not together... just both of them ;)) Love & Music, Jay > > hmm, > Talkin about that, have you listened to BT? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:28:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10114 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:28:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 10088 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:28:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:28:39 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 264; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:26:24 -0700 Message-ID: <370CF868.3DD9CAF0@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:41:45 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dj boywonder CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: what aree you gonn be doin on april 20th... References: <19990408181843.32134.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sean Murray always does something on 420, so keep yer eyes peeled. Also, every year up on Bolinas Ridge (in Marin), theres a rather large gathering of people to celebrate 420 (usually a few hundred show up). Theres drum circles and reggae, and one hell of a 420 celebration. After that those of us that are ravers usually head to whatever Renegade has goin on for 420. If your looking for something to do...check it out. Marin is the place to be on 420. john r dj boywonder wrote: > what are yer plans this year for 4/20...i know next year a few of us > are gonn be in amsterdam...but this year we are at a loss at what to > do......any ideas??? > > aaron > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:31:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12045 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:31:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 12023 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:31:18 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?W5NivKivpSdZvcfcHEGXWUlhz0Zbneir?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:31:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id LAA13872 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: ha ha ha! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk **USEFUL WORK PHRASES 1. Thank you. We're all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. 2. The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist. 3. I don't know what your problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. 4. Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental. 5. I have plenty of talent and vision. I just don't care. 6. I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid. 7. What am I? Flypaper for freaks!? 8. I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant. 9. I'm already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth. 10. I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you. 11. It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off. 12. Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial. 13. No, my powers can only be used for good. 14. How about never? Is never good for you? 15. I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to worship me. 16. You sound reasonable...Time to up my medication. 17. I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter. 18. I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message... 19. I don't work here. I'm a consultant. 20. Who me? I just wander from room to room. 21. My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! 22. It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular level I'm really quite busy. 23. At least I have a positive attitude about my destructive habits. 24. You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers. 25. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public. 26. Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:33:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13460 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:33:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 13439 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:33:01 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?2szgLbSoB/mLyvY4whpCZNM+duyxdD+R?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:33:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id LAA14316; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:32:56 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:32:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: NEXXUS19@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ? about Eklektik tonight In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Eklektic, crisp, clean, and only -800 calories. tonight: Recon (Redemption, Oakland) Abstract (Phunckateck, Pneuma), Juju (Phunckateck, Phuncktion) 5 dolla don't holla 18+ 10-4, duh, max On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 NEXXUS19@aol.com wrote: > hi could someone post and or send me the line up that was sent to the list > about tonights Eklektik lineup...also is it going to be 10 dollars again like > when DieselBoy spun? > > Thanks so much > Lauren > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:39:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16318 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:39:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 16305 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:39:45 -0000 Received: from law-f66.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:39:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 66237 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 18:39:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408183918.66236.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:39:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: dj_boywonder@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: what aree you gonn be doin on april 20th... Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:39:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk probably gonna be ordering a pizza since we'll have the munchies >From: "dj boywonder" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: what aree you gonn be doin on april 20th... >Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:18:43 PDT > >what are yer plans this year for 4/20...i know next year a few of us >are gonn be in amsterdam...but this year we are at a loss at what to >do......any ideas??? > > >aaron > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:45:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22679 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:45:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22519 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:45:25 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:45:25 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vYDYa02379; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:43:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <90ca0a85.243e52eb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:43:55 EDT Subject: BsP:(bootyshakinpromo)-DJMEGATRON on 90.7fm kalxberkeley.oO0Oo. To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org CC: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, dnb@breakbeat.co.uk, Benefit@happykidsproductions.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk its the spam that tastes like ham>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>\/ \/ \/<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< \/ \/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ok peeps its that time again. for all the sf/bayarea junglist who are either nocturnal insomniacs or the earlybird ones...check out 90.7 fm KALX Berkeley as i, the one they call DJ MEGATRON, will be givin u the jungle bump in ya trunk this weekend. tune in Saturday morning from 9am to 11am as u eat your fresh green eggs and ham with that delishuss glass oj OJ Pimpson liquid fluid. if u feel like callin in and chop it up with me about the show call (510)642-5259...thats 642-5259. also if u guys want me to promote anything on the air for u kiddies u can email me private style and gimme the info u need. so dont forget... whO:(((THA GHETTOTEK ROLLA))) DJ MEGATRON(((mechasoul))) whaT:jungle live in the mix on 2 turntables wherE:90.7FM KALX BERKELEY wheN:this Saturday morning from 9am to 11am.....dont forget!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whY:because i said so hoW:with my superduper majik nutsack powers....well....thats not true but of course with my Megatronikal skillz peace and nappy ass hairgreese!!!!! (((DJMEGATRON:mechasoul))) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:46:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24165 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:46:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 24118 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:46:30 -0000 Received: from f95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.201) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:46:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 66935 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 18:45:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408184546.66934.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.171.134.229 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:45:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.171.134.229] From: "Beetle Juice" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:45:46 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know when club ECHO spins techno? If they do at all? Thanks for help. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 18:52:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27883 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 18:52:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 27868 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 18:52:21 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 18:52:21 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7P2A6XU; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:52:10 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:55:28 -0700 Subject: favorite djs Message-ID: <19990408.115530.-67317.4.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-4,6-8 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Locals: mars&mystre, greg sandler, jeno, bass kru (jamalski is my favorite local mc), phunkateck out of town: frankie bones (my favorite dj period), dieselboy, john b, r.a.w. (mc ? too), ed rush & optical, roni size Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 19:02:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3776 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 19:02:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 3746 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:01:59 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:01:59 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id iZPNa19157; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:40:23 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:40:23 EDT Subject: Re: Music suggestions?... and I wanna be a DJ To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tracks 6 and 10 on Tranceport are so beautiful... I would give anything to hear them at a party also Christopher Lawrence's cd (i havent started buying records yet) Rise is really good (and hes spinning at the Harmony party next weekend) but by reading the back of his cd it seems like the man has a near keoki sized ego... matthew p.s. about me not buying records yet, im thinking of spinning and yes i do remember the thread where someone said they wanted to start and the poor child just got flame after flame because everyone thought that (s)he was only doin it cuz it was the cool thing to do. Well, I want to spin because when i play new music for my friends and they get that big smile on their face and want to dance so much and thank me after the song is over, It's one of the best feelings in the world From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 19:14:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11592 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 19:14:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408191415.11591.qmail@hyperreal.org> Received: (qmail 11474 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:14:11 -0000 Received: from tyranny.egregious.net (qmailr@206.159.99.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:14:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 31469 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:14:08 -0000 Received: from pm1-07.truelink.com (HELO catharsis) (206.159.99.103) by tyranny.egregious.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:14:08 -0000 X-Sender: catharsis@tyranny.egregious.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:17:16 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Catharsis Subject: Egregious, The Aftermath Cc: frequency-8@squinky.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow, This event went off extremely well. It is hard to find the words to describe the feeling this event produced. Both DJ sets off went really well. I want to thank EZRay (Stargaze Family) for spinning. He did a wonderful job. About 200 to 250 people attended last night and for those of you who know Tortilla Flats in San Luis Obispo.. when it gets hot in there because of the peeps dancing on a packed floor that is amazing.. Personally, in my short DJ career I have never DJed in front of so many people. I was really stressed out, but the energy of all those in attendance helped me to lose any fear immediately when I hit the decks. I hope to update the Egregious website this weekend with pictures and recorded sets from the latest few months. A little more information... Last night was the closing of Egregious as a club. The future is very bright though and Egregious hopes to bring trance raves among other events to the central coast. Tentatively, it looks like the first event is happening in Fall 1999. Also, keep your ears open for a trance/techno radio show that I am trying to get started at the Cal Poly college station (KCPR, 91.3FM, "www.kcpr.org"). Thanks again for all the people that made this event a success. Peace... --Catharsis Egregious (San Luis Obispo, CA) "Spiritual renewal through music" 805.541.8496 or write: PO Box 1136, San Luis Obispo, CA, 93406 "http://www.egregious.net" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 19:15:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13561 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 19:15:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 13541 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:15:13 -0000 Received: from web702.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.22) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:15:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408192009.2213.rocketmail@web702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.145] by web702.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:20:08 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:20:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for joining this thread late. In support of up-and-coming & local DJ's: Trance: Dr. Bubble, Mook, Gianni Happy-Trance: Thomas Trouble, gEoff, Acid Kitty AcidTranceCore: DJ D (the one and only!) Techno: Joaqman, Ikon, Vertigo Tech/House: Eric Spire, Greg Sandler House: Julius Papp (I haven't been to many house gigs) Downtempo: B))merang Fidget, Triad Favorite non-massive periodic parties: - Man in the Moon (SF) out-of-print (techno/trance) - Chemistry (SJ) @ ClubECCO (house/techhouse/trance) - Soul Attack (SJ) @ The Usual (house/house/house) and of course, - Divergent Regions (Sun) @ The QuarterNote (???) I'm *really* going to try and make it to Discovery. === Alex the Happy Raver don't love until you love yourself don't give unless it's free... =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 19:16:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15370 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 19:16:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 15344 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:16:39 -0000 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (17.254.0.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:16:39 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02598 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:13:12 -0700 Received: from scv1.apple.com (scv1.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (mailgate1.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:13:03 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv1.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA17850; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:13:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199904081913.MAA17850@scv1.apple.com> Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:13:02 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "Beetle Juice" , "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On 4/8/99 11:45 AM Beetle Juice wrote: >Does anyone know when club ECHO spins techno? If they do at all? >Thanks for help. NEVER... I should have added that point to my previous bashing of that place! I don't think club ecco will make it into the next millennium... bb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 19:37:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29141 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 19:37:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 29121 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:37:22 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:37:22 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vDIKa05535 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:36:43 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <496e4b35.243e5f4b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:36:43 EDT Subject: 420 Party??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What would you guys think of throwing a little 420 get together? If you guys are interested email me and maybe we can put something together. Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 19:41:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2829 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 19:41:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2807 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:41:26 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:41:26 -0000 Received: from netwiz.net (BayArea56k427.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.27]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA14354; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904081941.MAA14354@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , groovi-music@netwiz.net Subject: schaweeet music on KPFA (94.1) right now Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:41:53 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, well, i like the show so far. very lyrical, melodic, raga- dub- jazz hip hop. jack and geoff, you'll prolly like this. plug in, turn on, tune in. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 19:42:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3548 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 19:42:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 3533 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:41:58 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:41:58 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vFQMa02374 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:41:19 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:41:19 EDT Subject: Re: 420 Party??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just a reminder to everyone. I know its easy to feel safe and comfortable here on the list. But don't loose sight that this is a public forum. You don't know who is watching or "policing" the list. Be smart and party safe. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 19:53:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10532 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 19:53:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10524 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 19:53:29 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 19:53:29 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vGPUa29765 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:51:06 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <3f75c2b2.243e62aa@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:51:06 EDT Subject: NRR: Thanks for good vibes!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank you all so much for all the love I got yesterday! It really made my day MUCH happier! You guys are great, and I cant wait to meet more of you! Thanks again! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 20:18:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27872 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 20:18:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 27848 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 20:18:31 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 20:18:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408201210.20708.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.241] by attach1; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:12:10 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Mixtapes??? CD's??? To: MacBunny , Joaqman Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok now my favorite DJ's at the moment are by music genre... House:DJ Dan, Charles Feelgood, Justin Long, Li, Urn, HK Marty, Logik Techno:Neil Laundstrum, Chris Liberator, Ernie Deaks, Andy W, Greg Sandler BreakBeat: DJ Noah, DJ DAN Trance: Paul Oakenfold, DRC, Grover, Mystere, HK Ian, Vaijra DownTempo: Joe Rice, Andy W, Shoam, Maiz Drum n' Bass: Danny the Wild Child, Phantom 45, Diesal Boy, Flux, UFO!, Science (Anything)Progressive: Christopher Lawrence, Taylor, Sandra Collins Favorite Mixtapes: Li live @ Beautiful People, Urn Live @ Sparkle, Justin Long/Halo "Buggin", Charles Feelgood "Happy House Volume 1", Ryan Wilber vs. Walker Live @ Sparkle, HK Ian Favorite CD: DJ DAN "BEATS 4 FREAKS", Paul Oakenfold "TRANSPORT", Paul Oakenfold double cd "Global Underground" === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 20:23:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1890 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 20:23:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1860 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 20:22:59 -0000 Received: from law-f244.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.209) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 20:22:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 69187 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 20:22:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408202233.69186.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.211.31 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:22:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.211.31] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Underworld Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:22:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Got my tickets, got my tickets, got my tickets. Am coming back from DC two days early so I can go. How pathetic is that? I feel love, I feel love, I feeeeeeeeel love . . . K Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 20:28:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9429 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 20:28:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 9400 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 20:28:29 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 20:28:29 -0000 Received: from NEXXUS19@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vIGSa28470 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:25:34 -0400 (EDT) From: NEXXUS19@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:25:34 EDT Subject: NRR: Kurt Cobain To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 216 Reply-To: NEXXUS19@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As many of you know, today is the 5year Anniversary of the death of Kurt Cobain, a very influential person not only in punk/"alternative" music, but also to everyday popular culture in the 90's. I believe his suicide was a big loss to the world ; he had a abundance of talent and it could of been so much more =( RIP KURT -Lauren From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 20:43:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20860 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 20:43:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 20847 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 20:43:25 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 20:43:25 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.31] (madmax-31.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.31]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10771 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:22:43 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: what aree you gonn be doin on april 20th... Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >what are yer plans this year for 4/20.. I'll be praying to Thor, Odin, and any other Gods I can think of, to thank them for letting not smoke pot. Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 20:50:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25792 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 20:50:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 25778 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 20:50:06 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 20:50:06 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vMMIa03137 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:44:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <281280dd.243e6f22@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:44:18 EDT Subject: Re: ACIDE BREakS To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i don't know if im going to acid breaks... but that's my BIRTHDAY!!!!! Anyone.. if they got any ideas of a great trance partEE comin' up.. on MAY 1st.. for ma birthday rave.. let me know ;) MUAH, Valerie ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:00:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1792 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:00:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 1783 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:00:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.47) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:00:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 68469 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 21:00:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408210005.68468.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.142.2.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:00:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.142.2.22] From: "Blixa Karma" To: NEXXUS19@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Kurt Cobain Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:00:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Courtny killed Kurt! We miss you Kurt >From: NEXXUS19@aol.com >Reply-To: NEXXUS19@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: NRR: Kurt Cobain >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:25:34 EDT > > As many of you know, today is the 5year Anniversary of the death of Kurt >Cobain, a very influential person not only in punk/"alternative" music, but >also to everyday popular culture in the 90's. I believe his suicide was a big >loss to the world ; he had a abundance of talent and it could of been so much >more =( > >RIP KURT > >-Lauren Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:01:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2515 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:01:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 2467 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:00:56 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:00:56 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 610970; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:00:49 -0700 Message-ID: <370D189E.7908F29C@warmth.org> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:59:11 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org Subject: Nrr-Yipee It's Hailing and snowing in Mtn View Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yippee It's Hailing and snowing in Mtn View! This is the second time this year it's snowed in Mountain View. Mee so happy!!!!!! Hope everyone's day is going great :-o} For those of you going to Discovery tonight in Santa Rosa, Please drive careful and watch for black ice on the way there and back! Matt :-o} From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:15:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11445 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 11294 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:15:14 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:15:14 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA28083; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:14:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca47-29.ix.netcom.com(209.110.235.157) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma028055; Thu Apr 8 16:14:06 1999 Message-ID: <370D1C18.FFA5354C@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:14:00 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric B CC: Laalkuchaa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: speaking of aids References: <19990408052729.78857.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's just some peoples idea of a really sick practical joke. Don't believe the HYPE! Keep it mellow, Vlad Eric B wrote: > hmmm speaking of that, I've heard, and I hate to throw in a bad vibe, > but this deeply concerns me, and though it may only be a rumor, or it > may have been talked about in hear before, The whole being poked by a > needle at a rave has really wigged me out. Anyone experienced this > first hand, or whats the deal. I mean its just awful. And like its not > easy to sneak things into raves. I think raves should start requiring > metal detectors or something, cause thats just awful.... > > shroomer-E > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:22:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16885 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:22:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16876 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:22:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anlsf.com) (206.79.166.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:22:42 -0000 Received: from ntserver ([206.79.166.23]) by anlsf.com (Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) with SMTP id 8825674D.00741A65; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:08:09 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990408141137.007eaae0@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:11:37 -0700 To: vipassana From: deepbeep Subject: Re: Nrr-Yipee It's Hailing and snowing in Mtn View Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <370D189E.7908F29C@warmth.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yup, I just peeked out of my dreary Financial District office window to see the peak of Mt. Diablo covered in snow... I feel alpine-like all of a sudden. :) d. At 01:59 PM 4/8/99 -0700, vipassana wrote: >Yippee It's Hailing and snowing in Mtn View! This is the second time >this year it's snowed in Mountain View. Mee so happy!!!!!! > >Hope everyone's day is going great :-o} For those of you going to >Discovery tonight in Santa Rosa, Please drive careful and watch for >black ice on the way there and back! > >Matt :-o} > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:22:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17389 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:22:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 17210 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:22:51 -0000 Received: from web706.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.26) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:22:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408212335.13437.rocketmail@web706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.12.181] by web706.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:23:35 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: psilo Subject: Re: the internet To: Garrett James , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Garrett James wrote: > I like the internet kind of like I like narcotics > and > televisions and MSDN. What's MSDN? > As in, a good thing, when and only when you need it. I tend to agree with more what a user posted the other day. The Internet is a tool. It is the user that determines if it is good or bad. It is no inherantly good nor bad. > But let someone else pay for it... cuz most of the > time you dont need it ;-) Someone else?!? Who is this someone else. It's always someone else's resposiblity and never our own. This same argument can be made about a book. Do you make someone else pay for you books, because you don't need them most of the time? What kind of logic is this? > Libraries work pretty good, also at libraries you > can > check your FREE yahoo email _and_ read sfraves > digests > and read a BOOK with 20 billion times more > information > than you can find on the web :) (and you can also > pretend you are Windom Earle and read poems to high > school girls for free and NOT get sent to federal > prison) Funny, more and more libraries are putting books on the web. I can find a book faster on the web than I can searching the library. Second I can do this at home, and don't have to travel to the library. Third I can find more books on the web than are at the library. I can find so much more information on the web than I will ever be able to find at the library. > Like a TV, i dont think ill ever see a need to BUY > the > internet for my house, but i kind of like it > sometimes > when I need to spam a resume to every headhunter in > california or find out what the weather is like > outside of the library :) Or find out about big > raves > when I forget to pay my telephone bill. (another > advantage to using internet at the LIBRARY because > if > your PERSONAL BELONGINGS/SERVICES are busted you > gotta > MOOCH!) It's funny how things go from being a luxury to become a necessity. (i.e. phones) Let's also apply your logic to phones. Phones are only good when you need to use it. Which isn't all the time. But you still have to pay for it. Catching my drift? Though it may seem like a luxury now. Do not dismiss its potential for the future. > MMM... imagine if everyone stopped buying internet > and > stopper buying PERSONAL shit and instead paid more > taxes so the libraries could get much more kick ass > shit...... *sigh* All I need is to pay more taxes. You just said how you don't like to pay for things, but now you expect the taxpayer's to do it. Hello?!? It's the same thing. Nothing is free. Someone has to pay for it. What you should be complaining about is how misappropriated your taxes are. I mean imagine if all the tax money spent on weapons was used towards education and libraries and things. That would kick ass. Psilo === "The most effective way to cope with change is to help create it." L. W. Lynett From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:29:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22003 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:29:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 21984 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:29:45 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:29:45 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vFKWa03138; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:27:18 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: <42364f71.243e7936@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:27:18 EDT Subject: Re: ACIDE BREakS To: MIB271@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk << Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26664 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:34:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 26427 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:34:18 -0000 Received: from jake-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO jake.excite.com) (198.3.99.221) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:34:18 -0000 Received: from scorch.excite.com ([199.172.152.240]) by jake.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990408213341.LLBC22643.jake@scorch.excite.com> for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:33:41 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Happy Birthday Vlad! Message-Id: <923607222.23091.165@excite.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:33:42 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk not sure if this notable day has hit the list yet (since i'm on the digest, i dont' see things for a while..) but... HAPPY BIRTHDAY VLAD!! Today, vlad is officially really old, so send him all your best wishes for a great birthday! To me, Vlad is one of the most determined and entertaining people in the scene, and the more I know him, the more i like him ... he gives a lot of himself to make music and dance available to all sorts of faces, old and new.... and to me, that helps make the world a better place. Heck he even danced himself last night at ComeUnity... with that birthday twinkle in his eye... and you can't beat that!! Many happy returns, Vlad! Leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:35:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27927 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:35:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 27804 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:35:22 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:35:22 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vKXBa01376; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:29:49 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:29:49 EDT Subject: Re: BsP:(bootyshakinpromo)-DJMEGATRON on 90.7fm kalxberkeley.oO0Oo. To: Megatron45@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org CC: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, dnb@breakbeat.co.uk, Benefit@happykidsproductions.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BuBBa, I WONT FORGET~! YOU GONNA GIVE ME ANOTHA SHOTOUT SINCE IMA PRINCESS????? HAHAHAHA WHEN WE GONNA CHILL YO?!?!?!?!!? WORD UP! THE SHOW IS PHAT.I WILL TUNE IN.......MAYBE POSSIBLY I WILL MAKE IT DOWN TO THE STUDIO AS WELL......WOOHOO* K MWAH LOVE LINZ THE PRINCESS From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:36:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29010 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:36:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28998 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:36:46 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:36:46 -0000 Received: from Subgucci@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vWFZa03137 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:32:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Subgucci@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:32:23 EDT Subject: Re: umm Orbital? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: Subgucci@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 99-04-08 04:51:52 EDT, you write: << okey so this is one of many times ive heard people on this list say how wonderful and amazing the Orbital song from Hackers is....the prob is ive never ever heard this song! and i so want to after all this talk! can u guys tell me the name of it please? i guess thats all =) >> its Halcyon On+On+On. -alice From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:47:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5355 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:47:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5346 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:47:07 -0000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (17.254.0.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:47:07 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18552 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:46:30 -0700 Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (mailgate2.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:46:21 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv3.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA22210; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:46:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199904082146.OAA22210@scv3.apple.com> Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:46:21 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: , "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Vald, even though it seems like you're every ones favorite person to hate.. d00d i luv u-- and props for being the guy with the balls to pull it off for so many years! Happy Birthday... oh ya, and love a-fair sucked! j/k had to put that in! bb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:47:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6649 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:47:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 6641 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:47:51 -0000 Received: from f37.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.48) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:47:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 61764 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 21:47:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408214742.61763.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:47:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:47:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah happy birthday vlad..how old are you now btw??? aaron >From: leslie.ayres@excite.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Happy Birthday Vlad! >Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:33:42 PDT > >not sure if this notable day has hit the list yet (since i'm on the digest, >i dont' see things for a while..) but... > >HAPPY BIRTHDAY VLAD!! > >Today, vlad is officially really old, so send him all your best wishes for a >great birthday! > >To me, Vlad is one of the most determined and entertaining people in the >scene, and the more I know him, the more i like him ... he gives a lot of >himself to make music and dance available to all sorts of faces, old and >new.... and to me, that helps make the world a better place. > >Heck he even danced himself last night at ComeUnity... with that birthday >twinkle in his eye... and you can't beat that!! > >Many happy returns, Vlad! > >Leslie > > > > >Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:54:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11800 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:54:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 11783 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:54:52 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:54:52 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id oLSSa21235; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:42:07 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <3688db46.243e7caf@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:42:07 EDT Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy birthday Vlad ... and I was curious if you were gonna reschedule (i cant spell) feel good friday at a diff location? matthew From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:57:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13699 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:57:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 13680 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:57:51 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:57:51 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08754; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA11007; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:56:06 GMT Message-ID: <028d01be820b$72470260$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> From: "Mook" To: "Ray Vonie" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:02:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy B-day Vlad, Hope you see many more. I don't agree with you on everything but you give more back to the party atendees than any other massive promoter out there and on a consistent basis. Keep it up. =) M<>< -----Original Message----- From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:33 PM Subject: Happy Birthday Vlad! >not sure if this notable day has hit the list yet (since i'm on the digest, >i dont' see things for a while..) but... > >HAPPY BIRTHDAY VLAD!! > >Today, vlad is officially really old, so send him all your best wishes for a >great birthday! > >To me, Vlad is one of the most determined and entertaining people in the >scene, and the more I know him, the more i like him ... he gives a lot of >himself to make music and dance available to all sorts of faces, old and >new.... and to me, that helps make the world a better place. > >Heck he even danced himself last night at ComeUnity... with that birthday >twinkle in his eye... and you can't beat that!! > >Many happy returns, Vlad! > >Leslie > > > > >Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 21:58:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14380 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 21:58:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 14365 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 21:58:13 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 21:58:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408215152.7956.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.163.39.25] by attach1; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:51:52 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:51:52 -0700 (PDT) From: cherri-bomb Subject: DJ Wild Child To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows about DJ Wild Child (emma weaver?). I've heard a lot of her stuff, but never anything about her. Someone said they thought she was dead [???] but as far as i've heard she's still around London, working on stuff. Can anyone clarify? Thanks! ~cb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:01:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17743 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:01:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 17734 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:01:39 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:01:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408214523.7676.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.163.39.25] by web1; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:45:23 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:45:23 -0700 (PDT) From: cherri-bomb Subject: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm just full of questions here =) Have any of you guys seen/had any work done by Marks of Art in San Jose? A friend of mine used them for one of her piercings and had pretty good reviews but I haven't heard their name around much. Thanks again, ~cb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:05:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21160 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:05:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 21130 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:05:51 -0000 Received: from web103.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:05:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408220601.25012.rocketmail@web103.yahoomail.com> Received: from [38.28.76.94] by web103.yahoomail.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:06:01 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:06:01 -0700 (PDT) From: dmarie Subject: ...Celebrate Skylar Ringland... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tragically one of our strongest community members was taken from us on Easter Sunday. Skylar Ringland was a beautiful, bright and warm person who was like lightning on the dancefloor. She will remain to be a true jungle goddess! There was a beautiful candle light vigil for her last night in Golden Gate Park's Fusia Grove. Many thanks to the Tai Chi Posse for organizing a much-needed union for Skylar's family and friends. Tonight, EKLEKTIC will be a celebration for Skylar!! Proceeds from the night will be donated to her family, as a gift from our community. Her mom is hoping to build a memorial for her so we please ask that you come and contribute. Also, please bring candles, flowers, and any pictures you have of Skylar to add to our altar. Aligning the rhythm tonight: DJs JUJU + ABSTRACT + RECON and on the lower level: TIM LOVE LEE + FELIX THE DOG ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::EKLEKTIC @ 78 MINNA STREET 10PM-2AM $7 to boogie:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Love + Light Miss E & dmarie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:09:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23710 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:09:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23701 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:09:21 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:09:21 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id lZXBa19373; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:06:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <692cad15.243e826d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:06:37 EDT Subject: Re: DJ Wild Child To: cloud9nine@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/8/99 5:41:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cloud9nine@rocketmail.com writes: << hi, I'm wondering if anyone knows about DJ Wild Child (emma weaver?). I've heard a lot of her stuff, but never anything about her. Someone said they thought she was dead [???] but as far as i've heard she's still around London, working on stuff. Can anyone clarify? Thanks! ~cb >> there is an article in knowlege magazine which probly can be found on the net. it tells about the female dj that rules in the jungle and i hear is way better than dj rap. i think she looks better too From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:11:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27664 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:11:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 27644 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:11:44 -0000 Received: from f143.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.22) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:11:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 35136 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 22:11:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408221139.35135.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.255.83.2 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:11:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.255.83.2] From: "Natasha 426" To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE Happy Birthday Vlad! Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:11:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy birthday Vlad! Yeah, we all love to bash on you but heck, you sure do add personality to the list! :) Your heart's in the scene, that's all that counts! :D Keep up the good work hugs, natasha PS How are you, anyway....eh vlad?? Are ya 30 yet?? :)~ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:17:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2993 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:17:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 2979 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:17:24 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:17:24 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vUWHa07954 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:05:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:05:20 EDT Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk happy birthday to vlad i dont know personally but hey anyones birthday is ok with me. and to all the homies whose birthday is today too happy birthday to yall too.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:21:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8171 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:21:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 8162 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:21:42 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:21:42 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vSVGa16359 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:18:06 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <37744425.243e851e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:18:06 EDT Subject: Re: RE Happy Birthday Vlad! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy Birthday Vlad!! Live it up!! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:22:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9334 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:22:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 9285 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:22:41 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:22:41 -0000 Received: from Brentano77@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vBRLa11296 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:20:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Brentano77@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:20:13 EDT Subject: huney anyone??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Brentano77@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk two questions: 1. do any of you know who's gonna be spinning at huney on the 30th??? 2. are any of you going??? brentano From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:26:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13842 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:26:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 13577 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:26:03 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:26:03 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 611031; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:25:54 -0700 Message-ID: <370D2C91.128E6D38@warmth.org> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:24:17 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org Subject: NRR-Naughty Quote of the day!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Toady's Quote is: SHIT IT'S FALLEN AND I CANT GET IT UP!!! Call Lifealert......Call Viagra From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:28:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16915 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:28:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 16905 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:28:26 -0000 Received: from web215.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:28:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408223018.6669.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.19.55.2] by web215.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:30:18 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett James Subject: Re: the internet To: psilo Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Where can you find entire books on the web. This certainly cant be free. This is useful and I wish I knew of such a thing so I didnt have to go to the library either. (this concept reeks of "cable radio" though.) I really doubt that information is free (like a library) or as detailed or robust. Hell, though if I can find 20,000 pages of text about Scotty's castle in Death Valley or the founding of East Palo Alto, fully illustrated on the Internet I would definitely be a convert and start praising the internet. And yes, the government can pay for all the internet, just like libraries. I just think we should give a little more to the government and slack off less. When my father was a kid they paid 95% income tax. No joke. --- psilo wrote: > --- Garrett James wrote: > > I like the internet kind of like I like narcotics > > and > > televisions and MSDN. > > What's MSDN? > > > > As in, a good thing, when and only when you need > it. > > I tend to agree with more what a user posted the > other > day. The Internet is a tool. It is the user that > determines if it is good or bad. It is no > inherantly good nor bad. > > > But let someone else pay for it... cuz most of the > > time you dont need it ;-) > > Someone else?!? Who is this someone else. It's > always > someone else's resposiblity and never our own. > > This same argument can be made about a book. Do you > make someone else pay for you books, because you > don't > need them most of the time? What kind of logic is > this? > > > Libraries work pretty good, also at libraries you > > can > > check your FREE yahoo email _and_ read sfraves > > digests > > and read a BOOK with 20 billion times more > > information > > than you can find on the web :) (and you can also > > pretend you are Windom Earle and read poems to > high > > school girls for free and NOT get sent to federal > > prison) > > Funny, more and more libraries are putting books on > the web. I can find a book faster on the web than I > can searching the library. Second I can do this at > home, and don't have to travel to the library. > Third > I can find more books on the web than are at the > library. > > I can find so much more information on the web than > I > will ever be able to find at the library. > > > Like a TV, i dont think ill ever see a need to BUY > > the > > internet for my house, but i kind of like it > > sometimes > > when I need to spam a resume to every headhunter > in > > california or find out what the weather is like > > outside of the library :) Or find out about big > > raves > > when I forget to pay my telephone bill. (another > > advantage to using internet at the LIBRARY because > > if > > your PERSONAL BELONGINGS/SERVICES are busted you > > gotta > > MOOCH!) > > It's funny how things go from being a luxury to > become > a necessity. (i.e. phones) Let's also apply your > logic to phones. Phones are only good when you need > to use it. Which isn't all the time. But you still > have to pay for it. Catching my drift? > > Though it may seem like a luxury now. Do not > dismiss > its potential for the future. > > > MMM... imagine if everyone stopped buying internet > > and > > stopper buying PERSONAL shit and instead paid more > > taxes so the libraries could get much more kick > ass > > shit...... > > *sigh* All I need is to pay more taxes. > > You just said how you don't like to pay for things, > but now you expect the taxpayer's to do it. > Hello?!? > It's the same thing. Nothing is free. Someone has > to > pay for it. > > What you should be complaining about is how > misappropriated your taxes are. I mean imagine if > all > the tax money spent on weapons was used towards > education and libraries and things. That would kick > ass. > > Psilo > === > "The most effective way to cope with change is to > help create it." > > L. W. Lynett > > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:31:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19250 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:31:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 19238 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:30:59 -0000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (17.254.0.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:30:59 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24630 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:20:05 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (scv2.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (mailgate1.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:20:00 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv2.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA16236 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:19:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199904082219.PAA16236@scv2.apple.com> Subject: <--> Vlad's favorite quotes <--> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:19:59 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can any of you add to Vlad's favorite quotes! - Keep it Mellow - Keep it real - if it feels good it is good - The Truth Shall Set You Free... - Don't believe the HYPE! Yep, tough luv-- that's what it's all about :) bbong From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:39:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24829 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:39:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 24821 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:39:29 -0000 Received: from f163.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:39:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 21026 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 22:41:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408224104.21025.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:41:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR:*UGH* i broke the internet Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:41:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hehe im just venting..i upoloaded a bunch of changes that were suppposed to be done today on a webpage i am designing fo a health company...and i broke it...*UGH*...so much for todays deadline >:( back to werk... aaron Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:41:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27032 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:41:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 27016 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:41:40 -0000 Received: from law-f216.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.126) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 40865 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 22:41:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408224113.40864.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:41:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:41:13 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy Birthday Vlad! Hope things are well and have a great day. As always gotta give ya props. Thanks again for all your efforts and hope you're feelin' good. 8^P~ ~ John Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:42:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28229 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:42:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 28143 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:42:22 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:42:22 -0000 Received: from BluSnday@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id gFALa19381; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:29:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BluSnday@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:29:42 EDT Subject: Re: NRR-Naughty Quote of the day!!! To: vipassana@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BluSnday@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hrmmm... unemployment's treating us well, isn't it? =) *steph* > Toady's Quote is: > > SHIT IT'S FALLEN AND I CANT GET IT UP!!! Call Lifealert......Call > Viagra > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:45:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 312 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:45:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 299 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:45:45 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:45:45 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id lJDDa04726; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:43:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:43:05 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: cloud9nine@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just got my nipples done on monday at Studio 13 down here in Salinas. The girl, Lisa, was great. She came recomended. And I tell you with something like nipple peircing you want the person to know what they are doing. As for tattoo's not sure about those. Im still in the process of getting my art work done for my first. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:46:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1147 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:46:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 1116 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:46:41 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:46:41 -0000 Received: from FReShKiD7@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id sKPRa18729; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: FReShKiD7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:39:42 EDT Subject: Re: Discovery ?? Who is spinning ??? To: isaacl@divi.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Reply-To: FReShKiD7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok well i just decided to go to this party because it is 18 and up , YAY i like the sounds of this party allready , but im not to sure who is spinning ? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:48:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2494 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:48:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 2471 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:48:08 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:48:08 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vXFAa14907 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:45:23 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:45:23 EDT Subject: Re: RE Happy Birthday Vlad! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy B-Day Vlad. Glad to see Im not the only one who is getting old. hahaha. Much peace and happiness to you and yours. M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:51:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5749 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:51:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 5737 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:51:45 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:51:45 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 611050; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:51:41 -0700 Message-ID: <370D329C.FE43703C@warmth.org> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:50:04 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BigM009@aol.com CC: cloud9nine@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Speaking ot piercings....... Time for me to get my nipples stretched....... How bad does it hurt? I was told by my piearcist Bima of "Anubis-Warpus"(Spelled wrong , I know), that it hurts more that getting it pierced. vipassana BigM009@aol.com wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > I just got my nipples done on monday at Studio 13 down here in Salinas. The > girl, Lisa, was great. She came recomended. And I tell you with something > like nipple peircing you want the person to know what they are doing. As for > tattoo's not sure about those. Im still in the process of getting my art > work done for my first. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:53:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6959 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:53:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 6946 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:53:09 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:53:09 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id SAA28830 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990408155125.0393b1c0@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:52:21 -0700 To: "SFRaves" From: binary fineboy Subject: Re: <--> Vlad's favorite quotes <--> In-Reply-To: <199904082219.PAA16236@scv2.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmm I dunno ... ive seen "cock-blocking player hater" more than once ... what the f*ck is that anyways? ryan At 03:19 PM 4/8/99 , Bbong wrote: >Can any of you add to Vlad's favorite quotes! > >- Keep it Mellow >- Keep it real >- if it feels good it is good >- The Truth Shall Set You Free... >- Don't believe the HYPE! > > >Yep, tough luv-- that's what it's all about > >:) > >bbong > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:55:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8455 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:55:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 8444 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:55:54 -0000 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:55:54 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id PAA22058; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <19990408224113.40864.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy B-Day Vlad! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GTA - "The Parti EP" Orbit Trnsmission 007 available now at your local record shop. info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:56:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9450 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:56:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 9309 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:56:42 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:56:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408225447.14827.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.241] by web4; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:54:47 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:54:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: vipassana , BigM009@aol.com Cc: cloud9nine@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just got my tongue pierced last week at Gottsi, definately a shock I'll always remember. My friend Therese almost passed out while watching me get it done. I suggest Gottsi, he did it fast, and right. Great job...thanks mr. ulrich for the suggestion. =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---vipassana wrote: > > Speaking ot piercings....... Time for me to get my nipples stretched....... How > bad does it hurt? I was told by my piearcist Bima of "Anubis-Warpus"(Spelled > wrong , I know), that it hurts more that getting it pierced. > > vipassana > > > > BigM009@aol.com wrote: > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > I just got my nipples done on monday at Studio 13 down here in Salinas. The > > girl, Lisa, was great. She came recomended. And I tell you with something > > like nipple peircing you want the person to know what they are doing. As for > > tattoo's not sure about those. Im still in the process of getting my art > > work done for my first. Peace, M > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 22:58:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10716 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 22:58:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 10687 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 22:58:00 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 22:58:00 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 611063; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:57:55 -0700 Message-ID: <370D3412.4C79A0E1@warmth.org> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:56:18 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: binary fineboy CC: SFRaves Subject: Re: <--> Vlad's favorite quotes <--> References: <4.1.19990408155125.0393b1c0@shell4.ba.best.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I always thought a "cock-blocking player hater" was a lesbian that hates dick, cuz some dude played her when she did like dick. Please inform me `oh`mighty list. vipassana binary fineboy wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > hmm I dunno ... ive seen "cock-blocking player hater" more than once ... > > what the f*ck is that anyways? > > ryan > > At 03:19 PM 4/8/99 , Bbong wrote: > >Can any of you add to Vlad's favorite quotes! > > > >- Keep it Mellow > >- Keep it real > >- if it feels good it is good > >- The Truth Shall Set You Free... > >- Don't believe the HYPE! > > > > > >Yep, tough luv-- that's what it's all about > > > >:) > > > >bbong > > > > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 23:20:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26872 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 23:20:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 26851 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 23:20:09 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 23:20:09 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id 3KQRa19360 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:13:51 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:13:51 EDT Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy Happy B-Day! yay! another one to chalk up on your life-time board. Hope it was a good one... and that the next year is even better. Stay positive and don't listed to all of the idiots on the list that get you down! hahah hugs n'stuff, trice From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 23:23:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29359 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 23:23:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 29069 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 23:23:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 23:23:51 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:21:12 -0700 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id C32BADFFEDCE11D282FE00A0C9CFADA2 for plus 2 more; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:21:12 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: "'vipassana'" , "'binary fineboy'" Cc: "'SFRaves'" Subject: RE: <--> Vlad's favorite quotes <--> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:23:57 -0700 Message-ID: <000101be8216$e0ed6be0$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <370D3412.4C79A0E1@warmth.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-SLUIDL: A50250E3-EDCE11D2-82FE00A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk See... I thought that term was made popular by the Chemical Bros. Wasn't that track "Cock Blockin Beats"?? Hmm.. maybe I'm mistaken. -------------------------------- Gerlando -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of vipassana Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 3:56 PM To: binary fineboy Cc: SFRaves Subject: Re: <--> Vlad's favorite quotes <--> I always thought a "cock-blocking player hater" was a lesbian that hates dick, cuz some dude played her when she did like dick. Please inform me `oh`mighty list. vipassana binary fineboy wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > hmm I dunno ... ive seen "cock-blocking player hater" more than once ... > > what the f*ck is that anyways? > > ryan > > At 03:19 PM 4/8/99 , Bbong wrote: > >Can any of you add to Vlad's favorite quotes! > > > >- Keep it Mellow > >- Keep it real > >- if it feels good it is good > >- The Truth Shall Set You Free... > >- Don't believe the HYPE! > > > > > >Yep, tough luv-- that's what it's all about > > > >:) > > > >bbong > > > > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 23:32:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5091 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 23:32:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 4849 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 23:32:33 -0000 Received: from law-f166.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.229) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 23:32:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 67401 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 23:32:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408233206.67400.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.196.204.170 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:32:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.196.204.170] From: "michael waldren" To: sacraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation..] Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:32:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_627905cf_1d4cc163$4ae37872" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ------=_NextPart_000_627905cf_1d4cc163$4ae37872 Content-type: text/plain From: Trixta78@aol.com Reply-To: Trixta78@aol.com To: Hanglu2400@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation..] Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:02:31 EDT In a message dated 4/7/99 6:33:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DPwrHouse writes: << To: BMK210, Brooke512, Catarata17, Ch >> From: DPwrHouse@aol.com Reply-To: DPwrHouse@aol.com To: BMK210@aol.com, Brooke512@aol.com, Catarata17@aol.com,ChillyLegs@aol.com, Jen7071@aol.com, JG5350@aol.com,JillRwillR@aol.com, ML7372@aol.com, Sianathon@aol.com,Trixta78@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation..] Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:33:54 EDT not sure if this is true but if it is i will be happy! hDPwrHouseh Dan Gallagher To: undisclosed-recipients:; --- Minta Rohr wrote: > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > From: TMCoolest@aol.com > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:46:48 EDT > Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney > vacation..] > To: jazzya@juno.com, CJOUTWEST@aol.com, > AAr3042236@aol.com, theutopia@juno.com, > livia.freitas@db.com, > qlindsay@lanecompany.com, Whereworld@aol.com, > remsen4@yahoo.com, jens@optiosoftware.com > Reply-To: TMCoolest@aol.com > > In a message dated 4/5/99 3:01:25 AM !!!First > Boot!!!, > gt6647a@prism.gatech.edu writes: > > << Hey Everyone,... I don't normally do this, but > sounds legit!!! > >> >> > >> >> Please pass on sounds like a great way to > get a free vacation... > >> >> > >> >> I deleted all the other forwarded > addresses 'cause it took over > >> >>five > >> >> minutes to scroll to the end of the > list........ > >> >> > >> >> Guys its true I too called Disney > myself... they are standing > >> >>behind > >> >> it 100% So send, send, send, send, > okay? > >> >> > >> >> If you read below you will see the note > from Walt Disney Jr. & > >> >> Management at Disney World. > >> >> Basically if this messages reaches 13,000 > people, everyone will > >> >> receive $5,000.00 or a free, all expenses > paid, trip to Disney > >> >>World > >> >> in anytime during the > >> >> summer of 1999. > >> >> > >> >> See the note below - its worth it!!!! > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Everyone is to resend to 15 individuals. > Please read and forward to > >> >> > >> >>as > >> >> many friends as soon as possible... > >> >> we've checked up on this and this is no > joke of a chain letter or > >> >> something if this reaches 13,000 > people...duplicate entries don't > >> >> count, though...So, please help & pass > on... thank you, and here > >> >>you > >> >> go!!! > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> WALT DISNEY JR. GREETING > >> >> Hello Disney fans, > >> >> And thank you for signing up for Bill > Gates' Beta Email Tracking > >> >> My name is Walt Disney Jr. > >> >> Here at Disney we are working with > Microsoft which has just > >> >>compiled > >> >> an e-mail tracing program that tracks > everyone to whom this message > >> >> > >> >>is > >> >> forwarded to.. > >> >> It does this through an unique IP > (Internet Protocol) address log > >> >>book > >> >> database. We are experimenting with this > and need your help. > >> >>Forward > >> >> this to everyone you know and if it > reaches 13,000 people, 1,300 of > >> >> > >> >> the people on the list will receive > $5,000, and the rest will > >> >>receive > >> >> a free trip for two to Disney World for > one week during the summer > >> >> > >> >>of > >> >> 1999 at our expense. > >> >> > >> >> Enjoy. > >> >> > >> >> Note: Duplicate entries will not be > counted. > >> >> You will be notified by email with > further instructions once this > >> >> email has reached 13,000 people. > >> >> > >> >> Your friends, > >> >> > >> >> Walt Disney Jr., Disney, Bill Gates, & > The Microsoft Development > >> >>Team. > >> >> >> > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2.2 message/rfc822 > Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:37:46 -0400 > To: "Brent Bailey (ATL)" , > cdcsweet@aol.com, > cjoutwest@aol.com, coklie@juno.com, > David Garner , > Jeffrey Siler , > "Julie Green" > , > KATIE COOK , katrina > , > Kelly Murry , > fiveeight8@aol.com, > rlarodeo@aol.com, TMCoolest@aol.com, > blur97@mindspring.com, > Whereworld@aol.com > From: keith bailey > Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation..] > Reply-To: gt6647a@prism.gatech.edu > > >Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:05:22 -0800 > >From: Nicole Bogan > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; U) > >To: kthompso@mail.sandi.net, > gt6647a@prism.gatech.edu > >Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney > vacation..] > > > > > >Received: by eclipse for bebe-toad > > (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.21 1997/08/10) > Sat Apr 3 22:00:31 1999) > >X-From_: CECEFROG@webtv.net Sat Apr 3 00:15:40 > 1999 > >Received: from > mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net > [209.240.198.118]) > > by eclipse.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id > AAA04299 > > for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 > 00:15:38 -0800 (PST) > >Received: from mailtod-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (mailtod-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.90]) > by > mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id > AAA02873; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:12:56 -0800 (PST) > >Received: (from production@localhost) by > mailtod-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (8.8.8/mt.gso.26Feb98) id AAA03939; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 > 00:12:56 -0800 (PST) > >X-WebTV-Signature: 1 > > > ETAsAhQkgRdBUJ89w9vlnxX9Cko9apEuSwIUDlOdjSnhC/yYt1EAJZnmKhSGU5U= > > >From: CECEFROG@webtv.net (BABY SURFER) > >Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:12:56 -0800 (PST) > >To: QTpie14367@aol.com, frankiebig5@webtv.net, > RNCROOT@aol.com, > BUS66@aol.com, > > BEBE-TOAD@4DCOMM.COM > >Subject: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation.. > >Message-ID: > <5106-3705CD88-10438@mailtod-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net> > >Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; 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> boundary="part0_922935955_boundary" > >X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 > > > >Return-Path: > >Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com > (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.4]) by > > air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v59.2) with SMTP; Wed, 31 > Mar 1999 17:59:07 > > -0500 > >Received: from www.jwa.com (www.jwa.com > [208.134.239.42] (may be forged)) > > by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > > with ESMTP id RAA15438 for ; > > Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:59:06 -0500 (EST) > >Received: from racine.jwa.com ([208.134.239.66]) by > www.jwa.com (8.7.1/8.7.3) > > with ESMTP id QAA02404 for ; Wed, > 31 Mar 1999 16:54:34 > > -0600 (CST) > >Received: by racine.jwa.com with Internet Mail > Service (5.5.2232.9) > > id <2AZ245JP>; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:58:14 -0600 > >Message-ID: > <4129BC034DB6D11180F200805F85DDDD0EBB9B@SD2> > >From: "Behnke, Eileen" > >To: "'Bus66@aol.com'" > >Subject: FW: confirmed disney vacation.. > >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:58:05 -0600 > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > >Noah: Check it out. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Gerou, Colleen > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:46 PM > >> To: Adams, Jean; Arvonio, Dave; Austin, Kim; > Beard, Bobbie; Behnke, > >> Eileen; Carbonneau, Deanne; Caudillo, Erika; > Caudillo, Gabriela; Chambers, > >> Jean; DeMatthew, Barb; Dose, Jeff; Droysen, > Nancy; Givehand, Sandi; Gonzo, > >> Carol; Graber, Lynne; Greenfield, Tiffany; > Harris, Donna; Hill, Melinda; > >> Hoey, Pat; Infusino, Amanda; Ishman, Donna; > Jacob, Beth; Johnson, Daryl; > >> Kinderman, Kay; Lambke, Kim; Lewandowski, > Annette; Lisiecki, Nancy; Maria > >> Madriz; McCollough, June; Pejovic-Roller, Milka; > Pizl, Richelle; > >> Santiesteban, Julio; Schulte, Eric; Swarberg, > Diane; Therkelsen, Tracie; > >> Walsh, Kathy; Wuenstel, Carol > >> Subject: FW: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: theresa [SMTP:tbird1@maqs.net] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:26 PM > >> To: cgerou@JWA.com > >> Subject: Fw: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Craig Brawthen > >> To: Carri E Brawthen ; Jodi > Dameron > >> ; > >> Ruth McCann ; RajcE@aol.com > ; Allison > >> Rae > >> Church ; Ashley Dawn Church > ; > >> Liz Andrews ; Tiffany Skoggs > ; > >> Mommacoop5@aol.com > >> Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 6:00 PM > >> Subject: Fw: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Donald Garold Gipe (by way of ERIC PAULL > ) > >> > >> To: smile@theramp.net > >> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 8:07 AM > >> Subject: Fw: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > >> > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: The Pilkingtons > >> >To: My Friend Linda > >> >Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 7:13 PM > >> >Subject: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > > >> > > >> >>Hi again, > >> >> > >> >>Read this and then send to all you know, it has > been confirmed by Disney > >> >>several times. Talk to you soon.. > >> >> > >> >>Love, Karen > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>Subject: > === message truncated === Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_627905cf_1d4cc163$4ae37872 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Trixta78@aol.com From: Trixta78@aol.com Full-name: Trixta78 Message-ID: <44be42e5.243d7647@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:02:31 EDT Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation..] To: Hanglu2400@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_44be42e5.243d7647_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Trixta78@aol.com --part2_44be42e5.243d7647_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/7/99 6:33:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DPwrHouse writes: << To: BMK210, Brooke512, Catarata17, Ch >> --part2_44be42e5.243d7647_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: DPwrHouse@aol.com From: DPwrHouse@aol.com Full-name: DPwrHouse Message-ID: <44be42e5.243d3752@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:33:54 EDT Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation..] To: BMK210@aol.com, Brooke512@aol.com, Catarata17@aol.com, ChillyLegs@aol.com, Jen7071@aol.com, JG5350@aol.com, JillRwillR@aol.com, ML7372@aol.com, Sianathon@aol.com, Trixta78@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part3_44be42e5.243d3752_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 216 Reply-To: DPwrHouse@aol.com --part3_44be42e5.243d3752_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit not sure if this is true but if it is i will be happy! hDPwrHouseh Dan Gallagher --part3_44be42e5.243d3752_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) by air-zb04.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:19:59 -0400Received: from web603.mail.yahoo.com (web603.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.167]) by rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id RAA16921 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:19:56 -0400 (EDT)Message-ID: <19990407212255.29959.rocketmail@web603.mail.yahoo.com>Received: from [199.103.133.156] by web603.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:22:55 PDTDate: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:22:55 -0700 (PDT)From: Melody Sewall Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation..]To: Chante Beachle Cc: Heidi Blacker , Julie Boisvert , Micheal Boisvert , Julian Burgos , Ana Canada , leah canada , Julia Chiappetta , erin degnan , Jeremy Degnan , Chantale Desaulniers , Holly Fontaine , Anna Frisella , Jessica Frisella , Matt Frisella , Dan Gallagher , Sandra McLean , Jeremy Menschel , Ashley Morlan , "Katie O'Connell" MIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- Minta Rohr wrote: > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > From: TMCoolest@aol.com > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:46:48 EDT > Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney > vacation..] > To: jazzya@juno.com, CJOUTWEST@aol.com, > AAr3042236@aol.com, theutopia@juno.com, > livia.freitas@db.com, > qlindsay@lanecompany.com, Whereworld@aol.com, > remsen4@yahoo.com, jens@optiosoftware.com > Reply-To: TMCoolest@aol.com > > In a message dated 4/5/99 3:01:25 AM !!!First > Boot!!!, > gt6647a@prism.gatech.edu writes: > > << Hey Everyone,... I don't normally do this, but > sounds legit!!! > >> >> > >> >> Please pass on sounds like a great way to > get a free vacation... > >> >> > >> >> I deleted all the other forwarded > addresses 'cause it took over > >> >>five > >> >> minutes to scroll to the end of the > list........ > >> >> > >> >> Guys its true I too called Disney > myself... they are standing > >> >>behind > >> >> it 100% So send, send, send, send, > okay? > >> >> > >> >> If you read below you will see the note > from Walt Disney Jr. & > >> >> Management at Disney World. > >> >> Basically if this messages reaches 13,000 > people, everyone will > >> >> receive $5,000.00 or a free, all expenses > paid, trip to Disney > >> >>World > >> >> in anytime during the > >> >> summer of 1999. > >> >> > >> >> See the note below - its worth it!!!! > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Everyone is to resend to 15 individuals. > Please read and forward to > >> >> > >> >>as > >> >> many friends as soon as possible... > >> >> we've checked up on this and this is no > joke of a chain letter or > >> >> something if this reaches 13,000 > people...duplicate entries don't > >> >> count, though...So, please help & pass > on... thank you, and here > >> >>you > >> >> go!!! > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> WALT DISNEY JR. GREETING > >> >> Hello Disney fans, > >> >> And thank you for signing up for Bill > Gates' Beta Email Tracking > >> >> My name is Walt Disney Jr. > >> >> Here at Disney we are working with > Microsoft which has just > >> >>compiled > >> >> an e-mail tracing program that tracks > everyone to whom this message > >> >> > >> >>is > >> >> forwarded to.. > >> >> It does this through an unique IP > (Internet Protocol) address log > >> >>book > >> >> database. We are experimenting with this > and need your help. > >> >>Forward > >> >> this to everyone you know and if it > reaches 13,000 people, 1,300 of > >> >> > >> >> the people on the list will receive > $5,000, and the rest will > >> >>receive > >> >> a free trip for two to Disney World for > one week during the summer > >> >> > >> >>of > >> >> 1999 at our expense. > >> >> > >> >> Enjoy. > >> >> > >> >> Note: Duplicate entries will not be > counted. > >> >> You will be notified by email with > further instructions once this > >> >> email has reached 13,000 people. > >> >> > >> >> Your friends, > >> >> > >> >> Walt Disney Jr., Disney, Bill Gates, & > The Microsoft Development > >> >>Team. > >> >> >> > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2.2 message/rfc822 > Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:37:46 -0400 > To: "Brent Bailey (ATL)" , > cdcsweet@aol.com, > cjoutwest@aol.com, coklie@juno.com, > David Garner , > Jeffrey Siler , > "Julie Green" > , > KATIE COOK , katrina > , > Kelly Murry , > fiveeight8@aol.com, > rlarodeo@aol.com, TMCoolest@aol.com, > blur97@mindspring.com, > Whereworld@aol.com > From: keith bailey > Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation..] > Reply-To: gt6647a@prism.gatech.edu > > >Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 22:05:22 -0800 > >From: Nicole Bogan > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; U) > >To: kthompso@mail.sandi.net, > gt6647a@prism.gatech.edu > >Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney > vacation..] > > > > > >Received: by eclipse for bebe-toad > > (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.21 1997/08/10) > Sat Apr 3 22:00:31 1999) > >X-From_: CECEFROG@webtv.net Sat Apr 3 00:15:40 > 1999 > >Received: from > mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net > [209.240.198.118]) > > by eclipse.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id > AAA04299 > > for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 > 00:15:38 -0800 (PST) > >Received: from mailtod-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (mailtod-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.90]) > by > mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id > AAA02873; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:12:56 -0800 (PST) > >Received: (from production@localhost) by > mailtod-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (8.8.8/mt.gso.26Feb98) id AAA03939; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 > 00:12:56 -0800 (PST) > >X-WebTV-Signature: 1 > > > ETAsAhQkgRdBUJ89w9vlnxX9Cko9apEuSwIUDlOdjSnhC/yYt1EAJZnmKhSGU5U= > > >From: CECEFROG@webtv.net (BABY SURFER) > >Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:12:56 -0800 (PST) > >To: QTpie14367@aol.com, frankiebig5@webtv.net, > RNCROOT@aol.com, > BUS66@aol.com, > > BEBE-TOAD@4DCOMM.COM > >Subject: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation.. > >Message-ID: > <5106-3705CD88-10438@mailtod-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net> > >Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; > Boundary=WebTV-Mail-1311590998-5657 > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > >MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) > > > >Received: from > mailsorter-102-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (209.240.198.98) by > > postoffice-241.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Thu, 1 Apr > 1999 00:27:58 -0800 > > (PST) > >Return-Path: > >Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com > [198.81.17.67]) by > > mailsorter-102-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net > (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) > > with ESMTP id AAA24982; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 00:27:57 > -0800 (PST) > >From: Bus66@aol.com > >Received: from Bus66@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com > (IMOv19.3) id oDKUa07307; > > Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:05:54 +1900 (EST) > >Message-ID: > >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:05:54 EST > >To: darylvisser@juno.com, RatShreader@yahoo.com, > sbehnke@compuserve.com, > > angela.behrens@irwinmortgage.com, > mike464@juno.com, > > RatchReshaw@juno.com, dgbehnke@hotmail.com, > sbehnke@renocon.com, > > CECEFROG@webtv.net, daddysgirl_5@yahoo.com, > Mufasa99@aol.com, > > jesbop@yahoo.com, herkee@juno.com, > Bludragn14@aol.com, > > discojunky66@yahoo.com, BrettInTO@aol.com, > RAJRIK@aol.com, > > Bob344@aol.com, Monkystar4@aol.com, > Comptons09@aol.com, > > Geeze15@aol.com, Ltngbug031@aol.com, > GNel320@aol.com, > > Snikers99@aol.com, DivaJess@aol.com, > PoleBear99@aol.com > >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Subject: Fwd: FW: confirmed disney vacation.. > >Content-type: multipart/mixed; > boundary="part0_922935955_boundary" > >X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 > > > >Return-Path: > >Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com > (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.4]) by > > air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v59.2) with SMTP; Wed, 31 > Mar 1999 17:59:07 > > -0500 > >Received: from www.jwa.com (www.jwa.com > [208.134.239.42] (may be forged)) > > by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > > with ESMTP id RAA15438 for ; > > Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:59:06 -0500 (EST) > >Received: from racine.jwa.com ([208.134.239.66]) by > www.jwa.com (8.7.1/8.7.3) > > with ESMTP id QAA02404 for ; Wed, > 31 Mar 1999 16:54:34 > > -0600 (CST) > >Received: by racine.jwa.com with Internet Mail > Service (5.5.2232.9) > > id <2AZ245JP>; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:58:14 -0600 > >Message-ID: > <4129BC034DB6D11180F200805F85DDDD0EBB9B@SD2> > >From: "Behnke, Eileen" > >To: "'Bus66@aol.com'" > >Subject: FW: confirmed disney vacation.. > >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:58:05 -0600 > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > >Noah: Check it out. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Gerou, Colleen > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:46 PM > >> To: Adams, Jean; Arvonio, Dave; Austin, Kim; > Beard, Bobbie; Behnke, > >> Eileen; Carbonneau, Deanne; Caudillo, Erika; > Caudillo, Gabriela; Chambers, > >> Jean; DeMatthew, Barb; Dose, Jeff; Droysen, > Nancy; Givehand, Sandi; Gonzo, > >> Carol; Graber, Lynne; Greenfield, Tiffany; > Harris, Donna; Hill, Melinda; > >> Hoey, Pat; Infusino, Amanda; Ishman, Donna; > Jacob, Beth; Johnson, Daryl; > >> Kinderman, Kay; Lambke, Kim; Lewandowski, > Annette; Lisiecki, Nancy; Maria > >> Madriz; McCollough, June; Pejovic-Roller, Milka; > Pizl, Richelle; > >> Santiesteban, Julio; Schulte, Eric; Swarberg, > Diane; Therkelsen, Tracie; > >> Walsh, Kathy; Wuenstel, Carol > >> Subject: FW: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: theresa [SMTP:tbird1@maqs.net] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:26 PM > >> To: cgerou@JWA.com > >> Subject: Fw: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Craig Brawthen > >> To: Carri E Brawthen ; Jodi > Dameron > >> ; > >> Ruth McCann ; RajcE@aol.com > ; Allison > >> Rae > >> Church ; Ashley Dawn Church > ; > >> Liz Andrews ; Tiffany Skoggs > ; > >> Mommacoop5@aol.com > >> Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 6:00 PM > >> Subject: Fw: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Donald Garold Gipe (by way of ERIC PAULL > ) > >> > >> To: smile@theramp.net > >> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 8:07 AM > >> Subject: Fw: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > >> > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: The Pilkingtons > >> >To: My Friend Linda > >> >Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 7:13 PM > >> >Subject: confirmed disney vacation.. > >> > > >> > > >> >>Hi again, > >> >> > >> >>Read this and then send to all you know, it has > been confirmed by Disney > >> >>several times. Talk to you soon.. > >> >> > >> >>Love, Karen > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>Subject: > === message truncated === --part3_44be42e5.243d3752_boundary-- --part2_44be42e5.243d7647_boundary-- --part2_44be42e5.243d7647_boundary-- ------=_NextPart_000_627905cf_1d4cc163$4ae37872-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 23:39:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11255 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 23:39:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 11229 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 23:39:31 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 23:39:31 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA11265; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990408163715.049a2790@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:38:23 -0700 To: , "'vipassana'" From: binary fineboy Subject: RE: <--> Vlad's favorite quotes <--> Cc: "'SFRaves'" In-Reply-To: <000101be8216$e0ed6be0$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> References: <370D3412.4C79A0E1@warmth.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmm, I tend to be more of a cock-rocker myself .... but ya know .. thats just me ... ~r At 04:23 PM 4/8/99 , Gerlando Piro wrote: >See... I thought that term was made popular by the Chemical Bros. Wasn't >that track "Cock Blockin Beats"?? > >Hmm.. maybe I'm mistaken. >-------------------------------- >Gerlando > > >-----Original Message----- >From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On >Behalf Of vipassana >Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 3:56 PM >To: binary fineboy >Cc: SFRaves >Subject: Re: <--> Vlad's favorite quotes <--> > >I always thought a "cock-blocking player hater" was a lesbian that hates >dick, cuz >some dude played her when she did like dick. Please inform me `oh`mighty >list. > >vipassana > > > >binary fineboy wrote: > >> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* >> hmm I dunno ... ive seen "cock-blocking player hater" more than once ... >> >> what the f*ck is that anyways? >> >> ryan >> >> At 03:19 PM 4/8/99 , Bbong wrote: >> >Can any of you add to Vlad's favorite quotes! >> > >> >- Keep it Mellow >> >- Keep it real >> >- if it feels good it is good >> >- The Truth Shall Set You Free... >> >- Don't believe the HYPE! >> > >> > >> >Yep, tough luv-- that's what it's all about >> > >> >:) >> > >> >bbong >> > >> >> >> >> ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me >******* > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 23:45:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15183 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 23:45:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 15171 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 23:45:20 -0000 Received: from mail.fiberia.com (208.137.248.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 23:45:20 -0000 Received: from gtsl1016.us1.ibm.net (mail.fiberia.com [208.137.248.15]) by mail.fiberia.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA28743 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904090045.RAA28743@mail.fiberia.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: joshg@fiberia.com Subject: Re: Northcoast party Date: Thu, 8 Apr 99 17:45:25 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk About the party up north: I am new to the west and I am not sure of the location that you are talking about but Sounds Like fun!!!! I look forward to meeting some of you at harmony. Josh *********************************************************** * Get your FREE e-mail and FREE web site at FIBERIA * * http://www.fiberia.com * *********************************************************** From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 23:47:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17361 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 23:47:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 17347 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 23:47:34 -0000 Received: from law-f58.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 23:47:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 8585 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 23:49:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408234907.8584.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.212.76 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:49:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.212.76] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:49:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BTW: Why are these posts public? It would be more appropriate to share your love for Vlad PRIVATELY and not fill our mailboxes. Unless you are posting an essentially personal and NRR sentiment to the entire list in order to prove some point with a public demonstration of your affection. Happy birthday to all. May your days be merry and bright. MeOW, K Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 23:50:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21078 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 23:50:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 20933 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 23:50:49 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 23:50:49 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13387; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA17847; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:49:12 GMT Message-ID: <032f01be821b$3f50f270$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> From: "Mook" To: "K Gray" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:55:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Because everytime a person's bday rolls by that a lot of people on this list know we all say Happy Bday. So get over it already. MooK<>< -----Original Message----- From: K Gray To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! >BTW: Why are these posts public? It would be more appropriate to >share your love for Vlad PRIVATELY and not fill our mailboxes. Unless >you are posting an essentially personal and NRR sentiment to the >entire list in order to prove some point with a public demonstration >of your affection. > >Happy birthday to all. May your days be merry and bright. > >MeOW, >K > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 23:55:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24244 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 23:55:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 24235 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 23:55:23 -0000 Received: from law-f178.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.241) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 23:55:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 63637 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 23:54:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408235456.63636.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.196.204.170 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:54:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.196.204.170] From: "michael waldren" To: vipassana@warmth.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: Piecings Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:54:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of piecings, anyone seen the movie Strange Lands, it stars the lead singer of Twisted Sister, and it is freaky. watch it, it scared the stuff out of me. "your everyday junglist" Mikey >From: vipassana >To: BigM009@aol.com >CC: cloud9nine@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org >Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing >Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:50:04 -0700 > >Speaking ot piercings....... Time for me to get my nipples stretched....... How >bad does it hurt? I was told by my piearcist Bima of "Anubis-Warpus"(Spelled >wrong , I know), that it hurts more that getting it pierced. > >vipassana > > > >BigM009@aol.com wrote: > >> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* >> I just got my nipples done on monday at Studio 13 down here in Salinas. The >> girl, Lisa, was great. She came recomended. And I tell you with something >> like nipple peircing you want the person to know what they are doing. As for >> tattoo's not sure about those. Im still in the process of getting my art >> work done for my first. Peace, M > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 08 23:58:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27028 invoked by uid 6000); 8 Apr 1999 23:58:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 26887 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 23:58:55 -0000 Received: from vm4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO vm4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 23:58:55 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-17.splitrock.net [209.156.149.132]) by vm4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA89032; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:58:46 -0400 Message-ID: <370D4238.5C9E6F36@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 16:56:40 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nuku CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SRR. Anyone know.. References: <1.5.4.32.19990408164322.006bf3bc@apollo.sfsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm, lets see (digging in the crates ), Ahh yes, Thomas Bangalter - Trax on da rocks - Roule 301 Thomas Bangalter - Spinal Scratche - Roule 302 Alan Braxe - Vertigo - Roule 303 Roy Davis Junior - Rock Shock - Roule 304 Stardust - Music Sounds Better w/you - Roule 305 Stardust - Music Sounds Better W/You Rmxs - Roule 305 rmxs Thomas Bangalter - Trax on da rocks 2 - Roule 306 Romanthony - Hold On - Roule 307 Buffalo Bunch - Buffalo Club - Scratche 001 You can't go wrong with Thomas Bangalters labels, All the releases have been good, and all classics to me. Trax on da rocks 1 never leaves my box. And of course Stardust was a massive tune. Romanthony I didn't dig to much but I bought anyways to keep up my collection. Anyways, hope this helps. -peace- Joe Lanzon Nuku wrote: > Anyone know if there is a list online of all the Roule/Scratche tracks that > are out? Or if they had a site...that would be nice too. > > Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 00:02:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29096 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 00:02:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 29082 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 00:02:13 -0000 Received: from pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu (130.132.143.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 00:02:13 -0000 Received: from [130.132.53.92] (audioboy.sm.yale.edu [130.132.53.92]) by pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18107; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: Sam Luckenbill@sbl23.mail.yale.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990408225447.14827.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:02:10 -0400 To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org From: Samuel Luckenbill Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing Cc: SFRaves Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to second that, gottsi is good, maybe avoid industrial strength in berkeley (near daddies), they pierced my tragus, and it shouldn't have been pierced (needless to say it didn't heal well, I wasted much money, and there's a little scar). So lesson learned: don't get your tragus pierced if it's too small.. :) --sam >I just got my tongue pierced last week at Gottsi, >definately a shock I'll always remember. My friend >Therese almost passed out while watching me get it >done. I suggest Gottsi, he did it fast, and right. >Great job...thanks mr. ulrich for the suggestion. >=)jer > > > >=== >Jeremy B. Bispo >Member Support Specialist >Cybergold, Inc. >2921 Adeline >Berkeley CA 94703 >510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > >---vipassana wrote: >> >> Speaking ot piercings....... Time for me to get my >nipples stretched....... How >> bad does it hurt? I was told by my piearcist Bima >of "Anubis-Warpus"(Spelled >> wrong , I know), that it hurts more that getting it >pierced. >> >> vipassana >> >> >> >> BigM009@aol.com wrote: >> >> > *This message was transferred with a trial >version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* >> > I just got my nipples done on monday at Studio 13 >down here in Salinas. The >> > girl, Lisa, was great. She came recomended. And >I tell you with something >> > like nipple peircing you want the person to know >what they are doing. As for >> > tattoo's not sure about those. Im still in the >process of getting my art >> > work done for my first. Peace, M >> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 00:07:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2851 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 00:07:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 2575 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 00:07:00 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 00:07:00 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id iABLa06235; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:48:50 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <22ffc53e.243e9a62@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:48:50 EDT Subject: Re: BSP:4/23/99 Fuz.e Brings You Digital Dreams!!!! To: skillz420@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk is this gonna be in sac or in the bay??? love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/7/99 10:04:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, skillz420@hotmail.com writes: << On April 23 1999 Fuz.e productions along with the Harmony Crew bring you DIGITAL DREAMS!!!!! Arena 1 hosted by Fuz.E Christopher Lawrence Taj Simon Apex Dj Rockit Stillwind Dre Vs Billy Lane (B-Side) Rif Vs Stompa Arena 2 hosted by Harmony Greg Sandler Erik Brown Andy W Gianni Ethan J.Bot Logik Urn Li Mac Limited 15$ presales in Sacramento and in the Bay Area call: (916)484-5700 (415)289-6788 This party should just be totally off the hook!!! Come and Support!!! >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 00:15:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9771 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 00:15:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 9747 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 00:15:05 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 00:15:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 22822 invoked by uid 4000); 9 Apr 1999 00:15:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 00:15:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:15:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: speedbass... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thought this was interesting: http://hyperreal.org/~spaz/news/speedbass.html Go Goldilox! Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 00:23:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16261 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 00:23:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 16247 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 00:23:53 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 00:23:53 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id qTEKa19368; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:19:15 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:19:15 EDT Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: jvlavianos@cu-help.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk can i just say that uberzone at spirit was awsome!!! (i have a lil bit of it on video from up behind him on the stage... the camera i used that night had no lighting, so the crowd shot isn't too great, but the lazers and stuff look sooo great) love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/8/99 11:22:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jvlavianos@cu-help.com writes: << Still waiting to see him and uberzone live (not together... just both of them ;)) Love & Music, Jay >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 00:24:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16921 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 00:24:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 16904 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 00:24:14 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 00:24:14 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id qWUJa23597; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:20:52 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <97ccb660.243ea1e4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:20:52 EDT Subject: Re: what aree you gonn be doin on april 20th... To: johnr@hrg.com, dj_boywonder@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk lol, you guys remember that guy and his 4:20 movie4 thing from a few mnths ago?? lol.... =) love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 00:28:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19004 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 00:28:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 18996 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 00:28:51 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 00:28:51 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id RAA23854; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub1.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.7) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma923617728.023849; Thu, 8 Apr 99 17:28:48 -0700 Received: from geocities.com (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27144; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370D49BD.4107EEC@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:28:46 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: urban_assault@geocities.com Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves Subject: look ma my pants are soiled... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow! I get back from djing in Canada and the whole list is going to shit. I received over 500 messages full of it! While in Canada I didn't have to deal with such drama. It was very nice. I didn't have the stress lead on by this list and the general negativity this list seems to portray a majority of the time. I think some of you need to culture yourselves. Thank god other places don't have the % of negativity we do here - even when things go wrong and things went wrong while I was there - the outlook was still positive and the result was rewarding. Its sad that I have to come home to this after having such a great time in Canada and telling all the people there what they are missing in SF. Was I lying to them? Should they just stay where they are at? I'm not sure, but when people do come from other areas lets hope they don't join this list cause the majority of the content is so negative that it does no good bringing in the new. It just corrupts. Reading this list is such a small part of the industry for me yet it keeps me involved on a closer basis with you and you with me along w/Urban Assault and Viberation, but to tell you the truth its really becoming an ongoing burden reading this list. Its incredibly stressful to read so much hate. Anymore of this kind of content and I'm going to have to say good-bye to the list for a while or forever (not that anyone would care). I'm concerned with the well being of this list and the downward spiral its taking. At this point in my life I'm making great headway in completing life long goals in producing music and djing and with such good things in life happening I really don't need to be a part of a list that can't get it together. Think about it folks. Something good needs to come out of this. I wish each and everyone of you a good day! Smile. Life is precious and short. Make good with each day you wake up! Respects to all, _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 00:36:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24796 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 00:36:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 24776 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 00:36:08 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 00:36:08 -0000 Received: from XXxHaiLx@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vKCAa05275; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:35:31 -0400 (EDT) From: XXxHaiLx@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:35:31 EDT Subject: Re: Re: BSP:4/23/99 Fuz.e Brings You Digital Dreams!!!! To: MoonChyld1@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, skillz420@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: XXxHaiLx@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sac From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 00:44:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1614 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 00:44:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1431 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 00:44:29 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 00:44:29 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id uGOCa05275; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:41:54 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <2140708a.243ea6d2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:41:54 EDT Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *yay* happy birthday!!! so how old r u now?? thankx for all the wonderful parties! may you grow old enough to still be throwin 'em when some day a long time (hopefully) from now i have kidz out there partying!! (eeekk!!! having kids..scarry thought... ) lol! love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/8/99 2:34:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, leslie.ayres@excite.com writes: << not sure if this notable day has hit the list yet (since i'm on the digest, i dont' see things for a while..) but... HAPPY BIRTHDAY VLAD!! Today, vlad is officially really old, so send him all your best wishes for a great birthday! To me, Vlad is one of the most determined and entertaining people in the scene, and the more I know him, the more i like him ... he gives a lot of himself to make music and dance available to all sorts of faces, old and new.... and to me, that helps make the world a better place. Heck he even danced himself last night at ComeUnity... with that birthday twinkle in his eye... and you can't beat that!! Many happy returns, Vlad! Leslie >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 01:00:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10111 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 01:00:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 10049 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 01:00:00 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 01:00:00 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3FMQa16615; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:57:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <95c66c8f.243eaa7a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:57:30 EDT Subject: Re: tickle 3 meeting place!! To: Kalika1196@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I ALWAYS seem to go to the water at like 1 oclock. . . but I rarely find too many of us sticking around. It's a good time and a good place, but we should have some kind of sign language or something that screams out SFR when we see a suspect. HUGZ zzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 01:01:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11590 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 01:01:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 11572 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 01:01:29 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 01:01:29 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Thu Apr 8 18:01:00 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, MIB271@aol.com Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:01:00 -0800 From: "Ro" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: ACIDE BREakS X-Sender-Ip: 206.173.232.184 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll be there! Is everyone goona meet up, hold hands, bounce to the bass, and shuffle to the breakbeat? --- Rommel AOLIM: DaSaucey1 secretsauce@angelfire.com On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:26:44 MIB271 wrote: >Anyone going to Acid Breaks 3 on may 1st?? >PLUR > greg > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 01:15:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20853 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 01:15:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20843 invoked by uid 233); 9 Apr 1999 01:15:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 896 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 01:38:54 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 01:38:54 -0000 Received: from pm11-102.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id 2PTXR3W4; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:37:29 -0700 Message-ID: <00b601be8160$8f4bb6e0$66c5cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: Subject: glowsticks pricing. (BSP!!!) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:38:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B3_01BE8125.E1FA4180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01BE8125.E1FA4180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you have a party supply warehouse or army surplus store nearby, = they're definitely the best bet for glowsticks, especially if you just = want to get one or two. =20 for mail order purchases (the way to go if you want large quantities), = you can get 6" glowsticks for $1.59 each plus shipping/handling at = http://liberty.ispree.net (and you'll find the shipping/handling is = cheaper than qlights.com, aka glowsticks.com). =20 *plur* =3D)sooz aka libertygrl ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01BE8125.E1FA4180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
if you have a party supply warehouse or = army=20 surplus store nearby, they're definitely the best bet for glowsticks, = especially=20 if you just want to get one or two. 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01BE8125.E1FA4180-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 01:16:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21864 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 01:16:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 21855 invoked by uid 233); 9 Apr 1999 01:16:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 12948 invoked from network); 8 Apr 1999 03:53:22 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd124.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 8 Apr 1999 03:53:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 40465 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 03:52:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408035254.40464.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.192.162 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:52:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.192.162] From: "spencer knowles" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: talk@warmth.org Subject: BSP: Endeavor.....somethin' for sunday. Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:52:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Good Day. I have something for you every Sunday from now on. starting this....sunday...april 11th....at 78 mina....San Francisco... Endeavor will be hosting many local favorite dj's as well as some skilled out of towners.... -------weekly info line for endeavor ____415 212 0352___ Seeking, as always, good times and good vibes we hope you have fun.... This Sunday___4/11/99___San Francisco, 78 Minna___9pm-2am___ upstairs: downstairs: M.O.D.A Greg Sandler Micron spencer franklin Tracer Melony Joseph Lee Tripnotics P school $7 before 10pm $10 after 10pm call________415 212 0352______________consistantly updated info..... Thank you for your time and consideration I hope to see you all there.. Be Happy Be warm spencer f Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 01:21:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24857 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 01:21:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 24842 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 01:21:12 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 01:21:12 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3ZTVa20332 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:19:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:19:37 EDT Subject: This Weekends Stuff I'm Probably Doing To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So tickles this weekend, I'll probably be going. A friend is sposed to get me aticket at harmonics. . . (we'll see if she's successful). It'll probably be like an Oak Town jig right ? 2nd n Jackson ? That place is only cool if you get there at like 8:30 and have a semi-safe place to park (near the coppers). I'll be most likely wearing these cute little pink pants with like a furry green swirl around the legs down to the tootsie, a tight white feathery half shirt with the nips cut out for that ever important airflow. My 6" neon suede platforms, tall pink strawberry flavored socks, and my neon blue wig with little cute devil horns poking up through my little afro puffs. I might be wearing a beanie too. . . probably the poggileewoggilee bear's new one. See Ya'll There Actually. . . I changed my mind. I think I'm going to wear my black pants with the off white stripe down the legs, a white wifebeater, a black semi-glittery button up (unbuttoned. . . sexy) long sleeve shirt, white shoesies, white gloves (gotta have em), my laminates, and a white hat. LuVyAlL HUGZzzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 01:29:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28453 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 01:29:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 28441 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 01:29:09 -0000 Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 01:29:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409012852.20791.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.33.101] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:28:52 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:28:52 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! To: Bbong , Beetle Juice , SFRaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Bbong wrote: > On 4/8/99 11:45 AM Beetle Juice wrote: > > >Does anyone know when club ECHO spins techno? If > they do at all? > >Thanks for help. > > NEVER... I should have added that point to my > previous bashing of that > place! I don't think club ecco will make it into the > next millennium... > > bb > Although the clientelle of Ecco leaves much to be desired, it is one of the only spots in SJ to offer up some real nice talent...any club that Jerry Bonham spun at definitely had something special going for it, IMO. If you don't like Ecco for the people who frequent it, then don't go, and be happy that those people are not choosing to go to our parties instead. For example, I really dislike the atmosphere in Sound Factory, but it does have it's place. If Sound Factory wasn't open, then all those booty-hoppers would soon find their way over to 1015. 1015 *has* gotten more meat-markety, BTW. Blame the loft owners in SF who ultimately were responsible for the shut down of V/SF and the DNA Lounge; no more places to drink at and pick up on each other. 1015 is the last bastion of the sleazy drunken meat market crotch grinders. Less cheesy venues means more cheesy people coming to the spots where we like to hang out. I for one feel that Ecco has it's own special place in our dance community, and hope it survives to take some of the sleazy cheese off of our hands. Michael o)-< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 01:41:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4189 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 01:41:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 4175 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 01:40:58 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd125.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.189) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 01:40:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 41779 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 01:40:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409014030.41778.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.197.31 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:40:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.197.31] From: "sHaWn ." To: MoonChyld1@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP:4/23/99 Fuz.e Brings You Digital Dreams!!!! Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 18:40:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This Party will go down all night and morning in Sacramento. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 01:52:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9622 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 01:52:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 9590 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 01:52:35 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?5TU594D7Xmfv2PR3EKIZFl3TGpTi2WuE?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 01:52:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id SAA26904; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:49:00 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:48:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: cherri-bomb cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: DJ Wild Child In-Reply-To: <19990408215152.7956.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yoyoyoyo gramma whass kickin Wildchild is not dead. she just went on a super brief (two dates in Ohio) Us tour earlier this year with another woman DJ from the UK called Jojo Rock. Wildchild is pretty goddamn attractive, and likes to wear fresh sporty gear and gold chains. I have pictures of the both of them, care of my friend in Cleveland the one like Top Secret Gill. check it: http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~maxmcc/wildchild wheeeee! See you at eklektic, that'swhatI'mtalkn'bout and Audio Impact. 10-4, duh, max On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, cherri-bomb wrote: > hi, > I'm wondering if anyone knows about DJ Wild Child (emma weaver?). I've > heard a lot of her stuff, but never anything about her. Someone said > they thought she was dead [???] but as far as i've heard she's still > around London, working on stuff. Can anyone clarify? > Thanks! > ~cb > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 01:58:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12548 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 01:58:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 12530 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 01:57:58 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 01:57:58 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vXILa21395 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:46:10 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:46:10 EDT Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk VLAD!!!! Happy birthday mate! Much love and respect AMBER r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 02:10:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19756 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 02:10:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 19723 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 02:10:40 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 02:10:40 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA28992 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for cache.ns.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 02:17:34 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:10:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'sfraves'" Subject: FW: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:10:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk pretty amazing... > -----Original Message----- > From: Ricketts, Robert > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 9:00 AM > To: Comolli, Loic; Eric Jayne (E-mail); Eric Watkins (E-mail); Jay > Herdson (E-mail); Jessica Green (E-mail); Keith Nelka (E-mail); Kurt > Ricketts (E-mail); Oscar Saunders (E-mail); Rich Won (E-mail); Stan Kim > (E-mail); Taziwa Chanaiwa (E-mail) > Subject: > > > You have to make sure that you follow the steps accordingly. If you do > this right and don't cheat, you'll be amazed by what you learn!!.. > > STEP ONE > Pick a number between 1 and 100. > Multiply it by 5. > Add your age. > Minus the number in your family. > Divide the number by 10 (rounding to the nearest whole number). > Write down the number on 1 side of a piece of paper. > > STEP TWO > Pick another different number between 1 and 100. > Multiply by 1998. > Add the number in your family. > Minus your age. > Divide the number by 10 (rounding to the nearest whole number). > Write down the number on the other side of the piece of paper. > > STEP THREE > Take the first 2 digits of your home phone number > Add them to the last 2 digits of your work number. > Multiply by 365. > Write the number on a new sheet of paper. > > STEP FOUR > Fold the first page in half. > Now fold the second page. > Place them side by side. > Now pick up the two sheets (sheet 1 in your left hand, sheet 2 in > your > right > hand). > > > > > > SCROLL DOWN!!! > > > > \\ > // > \\ > // > \\ > // > \\ > // > \\ > // > \\ > // > \\ > // > \\ > // > \\ > Find a garbage can and place the sheets in it. Now using both your hands, > slap yourself around the head while repeating: "I'm a fucking idiot who > wastes too much time on shit like this!!!!!" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 02:20:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26918 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 02:20:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 26908 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 02:20:51 -0000 Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (207.69.200.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 02:20:51 -0000 Received: from [165.247.96.52] (user-2iveo1k.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.96.52]) by smtp5.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA29482 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:20:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904090220.WAA29482@smtp5.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:20:11 +0000 Subject: DJ Debbie D White Label and CD Giveaway From: "Juice Dude!" To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3006451211_31127153_MIME_Part" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3006451211_31127153_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit A few days late this month but apparently a bunch of peeps are checkin the Juice website. We did not even post this giveaway and the blender is already on puree... Check it this month....Out to one lucky contestant... A free DJ Debbie D White label from the forthcoming "Power" and "Rock On" 12 inch vinyl due up in May. You can hear it at http://www.gotjuice.com along with plenty o' other sounds.. Thanks to all who came out to the Juice Release party on 3/10/99 at Recharge in DC. You all helped turn the joint out.... Peace, Wes ----------------------- Juice Recordings 2020 F Street NW #118 Washington, DC 20006 Phone/Fax:202-463-4220 info@gotjuice.com http://www.gotjuice.com ----------------------- ----------------------- --MS_Mac_OE_3006451211_31127153_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable DJ Debbie D White Label and CD Giveaway A few days late this month but apparently a bunch of peeps are checkin the = Juice website. We did not even post this giveaway and the blender is alrea= dy on puree...
Check it this month....Out to one lucky contestant... A free DJ Debbie D W= hite label from the forthcoming "Power" and "Rock On" 12= inch vinyl due up in May.
You can hear it at http://www.gotjuice.com along with plenty o' other sounds..
Thanks to all who came out to the Juice Release party on 3/10/99 at Recharg= e in DC. You all helped turn the joint out....
Peace,
Wes
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Juice Recordings
2020 F Street NW #118
Washington, DC 20006
Phone/Fax:202-463-4220
info@gotjuice.com
http://www.gotjuice.com
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--MS_Mac_OE_3006451211_31127153_MIME_Part-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 02:59:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16370 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 02:59:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 16343 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 02:59:45 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 02:59:45 -0000 Received: from [209.209.6.3] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10VRVc-00006A-00; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:59:09 -0700 Message-ID: <002d01be8234$33c03f60$0306d1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: "The Red Stickman" , "SFRaves" Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:53:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > >--- Bbong wrote: >> On 4/8/99 11:45 AM Beetle Juice wrote: >> >> >Does anyone know when club ECHO spins techno? If >> they do at all? >> >Thanks for help. >> >> NEVER... I should have added that point to my >> previous bashing of that >> place! I don't think club ecco will make it into the >> next millennium... >> >> bb >> >Although the clientelle of Ecco leaves much to be >desired, it is one of the only spots in SJ to offer up >some real nice talent...any club that Jerry Bonham >spun at definitely had something special going for it, >IMO. > >If you don't like Ecco for the people who frequent it, >then don't go, and be happy that those people are not >choosing to go to our parties instead. For example, I >really dislike the atmosphere in Sound Factory, but it >does have it's place. If Sound Factory wasn't open, >then all those booty-hoppers would soon find their way >over to 1015. > >1015 *has* gotten more meat-markety, BTW. Blame the >loft owners in SF who ultimately were responsible for >the shut down of V/SF and the DNA Lounge; no more >places to drink at and pick up on each other. 1015 is >the last bastion of the sleazy drunken meat market >crotch grinders. > >Less cheesy venues means more cheesy people coming to >the spots where we like to hang out. I for one feel >that Ecco has it's own special place in our dance >community, and hope it survives to take some of the >sleazy cheese off of our hands. > >Michael >o)-< > Hey Mike, u said that 1051 has gotten meat markety. How ? In what way? I go there once in a while and i dont see any picking uping. maybe i am looking in a wrong place? another point from an x-club kid. Where do u meet people? ... if not in the danceclub then where? Max. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 03:18:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29668 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 03:18:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 29472 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 03:18:16 -0000 Received: from f26.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.37) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 03:18:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 64539 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 03:19:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409031915.64538.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:19:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: majorly NRR: (humor?) Business @ The Speed Of Thought reader comments Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:19:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi friends, Today I was reading the reader comments on amazon.com about Bill Gates's new book, "Business @ The Speed Of Thought". (Would I make fun of my former employer (Microsoft)? Who me? Noooo.... would I ever do a thing like that? me? No way.) Some of my favorites: A reader from Seattle , March 30, 1999 Thank you Bill! Thank you so much, I can't tell you! A mere mention of the internet in his first book and there was the internet. Now a mere mention of open source! Viola! Make it so Bill! A reader from Moscow, Russia , March 25, 1999 Bill Gates Is a Genius!!!! Although I expected to hate this book as much as I hate Microsoft Office's "Mr. Paperclip" Digital Assistant, I was totally blown away by the useful and insightful suggestions that this book offers. For instance, on the subject of the "must-have's" for succeeding in e-commerce, Gates lists the following: 1) a computer, 2) Access to the Internet, 3) a Web site, 4) a sure-fire scheme. Now, while I consider myself a little more informed than the average cybernaut, I never really considered these issues in putting together my master plan for conquering the Internet. Of course, there are some parts where the book gets boring, but being a great storyteller in addition to being the finest business mind of our age, Gates quickly draws the reader back in by dropping in totally unrelated, but tasty bits of erotica. This being a family forum, I won't go into details, except to say that the bit involving the mouse pad and the shaving cream was worthy of the Marquis de Sade. Truly inspired! And if you don't go for that sort of thing, the book also includes some fine recipes for boiling your professional enemies in such a way that it looks like they did it to themselves. Uh, what's my point here? Well, I really think you should buy this book. In fact, buy as many copies as you can afford. Bill Gates is going to be president one of these days and when he gets into office, let's just say that he'll remember if you don't! Consider yourself warned. A reader from California, Maryland (really) , March 24, 1999 Just shoot me The best comment for this book came from an editor at ZDNET. To paraphrase, "Faced with the prospect of having to re-read this book, I'd rather have my brain gouged out with a plastic fork." A reader from Dallas, TX , March 24, 1999 Not worh it This book is a hopeless waste of trees. Its the type of stock you might put on your bookshelf to impress your boss, but quickly remove when he leaves your cube to keep from embarassing yourself in front of coworkers. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 03:19:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 616 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 03:19:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 603 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 03:19:00 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 03:19:00 -0000 Received: from bow-107-112 (bow-107-112.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.112]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA09907 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990408081341.00a699a0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: aweck@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 08:24:23 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Andrew Weck Subject: Tickle 3 related - kinda Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't know if this idea was brought up before, but I think it would be cool if a bunch of us could meet one day before a party, during the day, in other words a preparty/dayparty. I think it is too late to do at this point for tickle 3. But sometime we should get together before a party for a day in Golden Gate Park. We could bring sheets to lay out on, some music (!!!), and a whole mess of other stuff. Let me know what you all think. -andy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 03:21:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2395 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 03:21:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 2382 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 03:21:30 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 03:21:30 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vOBOa12389; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:18:09 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <3b82ceb2.243ecb71@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:18:09 EDT Subject: Re: Need help on Glo Stix To: Gammbino@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WhrDaMud@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here is a site that i think ya'll would like to check out http://www.omniglow.com/ they got all the glowing things from mouth to u name it From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:03:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25726 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:03:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 25569 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:03:07 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:03:07 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vIYYa01909 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:00:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:00:03 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have a piercing..guess where????? Ryan knows... he's seen it ;) It's in a very nice place, and i can feel it when i dance... HEE HEE.. give up? too bad.. not gonna tell... well.. i just might...if u catch me in the right mood.. kinda like the one im in right now ;) LOVE YOU ALL...... Valerie.. AKA sparkles ;) P.S. i got it done at Pierce Ink in San Jose... i recommend it... ask for Ralph ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:04:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27875 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:04:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 27568 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:04:30 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:04:30 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rFXIa27562; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:48:53 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <2614cda0.243ed2a5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:48:53 EDT Subject: Re: Tickle 3 related - kinda To: aweck@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think they're planning on doing another BBQ in santa clara the day before tickle, like the one they did before f-8.... unfortunately, i doubt i'm gonna be able to make it out there since i got accepted to sf state, and their open house/campus tours thing is happening saturday afternoon.... but i heard the last one was dope!! but yeah it would be cool to orgnize a similar even in sf.... =) sounds like something for the planning list =) love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/8/99 8:19:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, aweck@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << I don't know if this idea was brought up before, but I think it would be cool if a bunch of us could meet one day before a party, during the day, in other words a preparty/dayparty. I think it is too late to do at this point for tickle 3. But sometime we should get together before a party for a day in Golden Gate Park. We could bring sheets to lay out on, some music (!!!), and a whole mess of other stuff. Let me know what you all think. -andy >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:14:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4562 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:14:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 4544 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:14:10 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:14:10 -0000 Received: from Dolpcandy@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vXQUa25416 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:12:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Dolpcandy@aol.com Message-ID: <6aaffa34.243ed840@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:12:48 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Dolpcandy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk CeL~ ArE you out there? I nEEd to talk to you. REmEmbEr mE? Bianca. WEll gEt back to mE somEhow, k? lovE Bianca From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:15:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5627 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:15:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 5618 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:15:41 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:15:41 -0000 Received: from GIANNI3333@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vFUOa21908 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:12:41 -0400 (EDT) From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:12:41 EDT Subject: GIANNI @ Nikita To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: GIANNI3333@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi, everyone just wanted to let you all know that tomorrow I'll be playing at Nikita (1015 Folsom) in the Main room after Barry Weaver from 4 to 6 am. I cant wait it's my first time in the main room at Nikita. Hope to see and meet some of you. If any of you show up come up and say hi (I'll have free tapes for anyone on this list). Take Care GIANNI, P.S. Happy Birthday VLAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:21:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9074 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:21:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 9050 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:21:37 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:21:37 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vLDDa16609; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:13:47 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: <205a6659.243ed87b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:13:47 EDT Subject: Re: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: Macias20@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have 7 piercings =P I like all mine.............. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ok im bouncing..time for me to go make dinner....peace* Linz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:22:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11106 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:22:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 11077 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:22:51 -0000 Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:22:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409042058.23137.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.209] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:20:58 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:20:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: NRR-Naughty Quote of the day!!! To: vipassana , sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is barely naughty. I know naughty. love,Julie --- vipassana wrote: > Toady's Quote is: > > SHIT IT'S FALLEN AND I CANT GET IT UP!!! Call > Lifealert......Call > Viagra > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:25:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12674 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:25:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 12664 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:25:16 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:25:16 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27616; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: , "Andrew Weck" Subject: Re: Tickle 3 related - kinda Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:22:02 -0400 Message-ID: <01be8227$5f5cb840$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk andy... i think you're on crack!!! ha ha ha. just kidding... cal representin' chris. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Weck To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 11:19 PM Subject: Tickle 3 related - kinda >I don't know if this idea was brought up before, but I think it would be >cool if a bunch of us could meet one day before a party, during the day, in >other words a preparty/dayparty. I think it is too late to do at this >point for tickle 3. But sometime we should get together before a party for >a day in Golden Gate Park. We could bring sheets to lay out on, some music >(!!!), and a whole mess of other stuff. Let me know what you all think. > >-andy > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:36:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17108 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:36:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 17066 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:36:47 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:36:47 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vOTEa15519 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:34:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <8495e777.243edd5f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:34:39 EDT Subject: Re: Tickle 3 related - kinda To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just a reminder to anyone who thinks a day party before tickle at san francisco would be a good idea, we're one step ahead of ya.... there's an awesome party here down in the south bay on saturday at noon... if anyone is intrested in finding out more about our santa clara shindig pre-tickle barbecue.. email me back or page joe at 302-3748 thanks.. MUAH val and ryan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:39:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19095 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:39:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 19075 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:39:15 -0000 Received: from dragon.ulink.net (209.160.21.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:39:15 -0000 Received: from ulink.net (max3-141.ulink.net [209.160.21.141]) by dragon.ulink.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id 2KBRP51B; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:39:23 -0700 Message-ID: <370D83A2.1251EC38@ulink.net> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:35:46 -0700 From: Dragn'fly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com CC: Macias20@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing References: <205a6659.243ed87b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn, I only have 14...hmmmm.... ~d TriXXXXe4@aol.com wrote: > I have 7 piercings =P > > I like all mine.............. > > hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm > > ok im bouncing..time for me to go make dinner....peace* > > Linz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 04:41:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20788 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 04:41:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20774 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 04:41:24 -0000 Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 04:41:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409044209.1012.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.209] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:42:09 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:42:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? To: Eric B , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank you so much, I'll be sure to check it out.love,Julie p.s. for the rest of you guys, I am not getting very many responses yet for this. I know that you might be busy, but I am genuinely curious to see where everyone is coming from, so please consider writing briefly about your first rave experience, or at least ponder it. If you can swear at me, flirt with me, or feel outraged with me because I am different from you or because I practice safe sex, then it is also possible for you to simplify and talk about your first party. Was it really that seedy? Come on!! And please post it for everyone else to see too. Sorry, Eric B. that I am taking your time up with a primarily general post here. Love, love, love....love is all you need. Eric B wrote: > My first party experience can be found at > http://shroomery.lycaeum.org/ > go to trip reports, Level 4 trips, and find the one > called REBIRTH > its kinda long, but if you like mushrooms, or > reading trip reports, I > guarantee you'll love it. Especially if you were at > rebirth. > Have fun > Shroomer-E > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 05:11:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6432 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 05:11:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 6423 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 05:11:02 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 05:11:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409051017.1039.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.142.2.84] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:10:17 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ooops! How could I forget jungle!? My apologies... Jungle: B.A.S.S. Kru!!! (Rinse/Flux/Jamalski) Fav Resident Club DJ: Max Graham (Atomic, Canada) Fav Party Space: Big <3 City Fav Party Celebrity: magiclovefairy Fav Visuals: viberation Fav Glowstick Color: blue Have a good weekend, everybody!! Go to Tickle 3! Write lots of reviews!!! -Alex the out-of-town Happy Raver --- Happy Raver wrote: > Trance: Dr. Bubble, Mook, Gianni > Happy-Trance: Thomas Trouble, gEoff, Acid Kitty > AcidTranceCore: DJ D (the one and only!) > Techno: Joaqman, Ikon, Vertigo > Tech/House: Eric Spire, Greg Sandler > House: Julius Papp (I haven't been to many house > gigs) > Downtempo: B))merang Fidget, Triad > > Favorite non-massive periodic parties: > - Man in the Moon (SF) out-of-print (techno/trance) > - Chemistry (SJ) @ ClubECCO (house/techhouse/trance) > - Soul Attack (SJ) @ The Usual (house/house/house) > and of course, > - Divergent Regions (Sun) @ The QuarterNote (???) === Alex the Happy Raver don't love until you love yourself don't give unless it's free... =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 05:17:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10132 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 05:17:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10122 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 05:17:28 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 05:17:28 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rDAAa27562; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:08:43 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <6cb7ea6b.243ee55b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:08:43 EDT Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? To: eeelips@yahoo.com, ejthadj@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, we just did this same thread a few months back, so if u are interested, maybe go back and read the archives.... personally, i'm too tired at the moment to type out my story....again =) love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/8/99 9:41:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eeelips@yahoo.com writes: << Thank you so much, I'll be sure to check it out.love,Julie p.s. for the rest of you guys, I am not getting very many responses yet for this. I know that you might be busy, but I am genuinely curious to see where everyone is coming from, so please consider writing briefly about your first rave experience, or at least ponder it. If you can swear at me, flirt with me, or feel outraged with me because I am different from you or because I practice safe sex, then it is also possible for you to simplify and talk about your first party. Was it really that seedy? Come on!! And please post it for everyone else to see too. Sorry, Eric B. that I am taking your time up with a primarily general post here. Love, love, love....love is all you need. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 05:32:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18936 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 05:32:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 18927 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 05:32:46 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 05:32:46 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vLHMa20578 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:32:08 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:32:08 EDT Subject: Fwd: Did someone say first party experience? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_f2a51c3e.243eead8_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_f2a51c3e.243eead8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_f2a51c3e.243eead8_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: JUNGurlE@aol.com From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Full-name: JUNGurlE Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:31:43 EDT Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? To: eeelips@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Where should I begin.. my first party in America or back when I was 12 being dragged by my cousin down to a party in some damp open field in the middle of what was called summer (although the temperatures would relfect something around 65 degrees HIGHS!) in GB? okay I'll just start from the VERY begining... it was an unusually warm summer for Rhonddha and my older cousin (then 19) heard about these parties that went all night, long after clubs would close. He wouldn't shut up about them is all I remembered, (I lived with him at the time) Finally he found out about one happening about an hour or so outside of the town we lived in and had decided to take me along with him. We drove all day through fields after fields (because that's all there really is in Wales) trying to find out where it was... untill we finally got to the party.. or what was supposed to be a party. I was only 12, and didn't really want to go but we were close-- I would consider him more of a brother than my real brother, growing up with him from the age of 2 on... I remember getting out of the auto and walking in the damp grass for what seemed like an eternity. The moist dew making the bottom of my troussers all wet and making me cold. I kept complaining but I knew how much he had wanted to be there so I tried to enjoy myself. When we finally were in ear shot of the music I realized this was going to be like nothing I had ever experienced before. I saw a mass of people dancing in the strangest ways. I felt like I had stepped into another world and that night, being just a baby and all, I found a new meaning and grew up years beyond my peers. I danced for some 4 hours, and talked to some lads probably twice my age about subjects which would normally have been beyond my recongnition. At that moment though, I felt this overwhelming understanding of everything around me. I had fallen in love with a movement, an idea, a new way of life and i was changed forever. My cousin Marc and I became closer than we had ever been, or have ever been since. I felt as if I was in his mind! It was some pretty trippy stuff I admitt, especially for only being 12, still wearing uniforms to grammer school, getting caught for smoking out behind the church on lunch. ( :o) memories are great!) That was the summer of 1990... a huge turning point in my life. <3 amber r --part1_f2a51c3e.243eead8_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 05:45:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24877 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 05:45:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 24867 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 05:45:42 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 05:45:42 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vQRGa20343 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:45:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <5e73792a.243eeddd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:45:01 EDT Subject: 1015 Folsom To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Mickey and Max: 1015 Folsom is what you want it to be. And as most of us know, each night is promoted by different promoters. Nikita and Spundaes on fridays and sundays are a far cry from Release on saturday. Im not sure why so many people on the list come down on clubs and preach that raves are the only way. To each his own. I happen to enjoy the qualities of both. And Im diffenetly into meeting new and interesting people. And if that particular person is drop dead gorgeous then all the better. But I love to dance and socialize. So does that make me a butcher? If I choose to be, yes. Or if you "choose" to be then you can answer yes as well. I have been to 1015 on various nights where the vibe was so incrediable and then the following week it was well, so so. I personally enjoy Release on saturdays in the VIP Lounge. And lately you can feel something in the air. The crowd is changing and getting thinner by the week. There is about to be a major over haul in that place so everyone be careful in there. Alot of over dosing on GHB and alot of people getting busted selling in there make for a very sketchy vibe to say the least. Be smart, party safe, and enjoy life. I dont ask anything of anyone I wouldnt ask of myself. Open your minds and hearts. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 06:10:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9161 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 06:10:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 9151 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 06:10:44 -0000 Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 06:10:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409060838.3709.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.33.127] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:08:38 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:08:38 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! To: Wayne Radinsky Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk not gone, but lost their liquor licence, and cabaret licence as well. the cabaret licence allows the club to go later than 2AM. after losing the liquor licence, the club can not get another cabaret licence, cause SF isn't issuing anymore, from what i understand. losing a liquor licence and shutting down is kinda like the death of a club in a way. and losing the cabaret licence pretty much turns the club into a big giant bar... seeya, mkd o)-< --- Wayne Radinsky wrote: > > Huh? What, Michael? V/SF and DNA Lounge are gone? > ---------- > >From: The Red Stickman > >To: Bbong ,Beetle > Juice > , SFRaves > > >Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! > >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:28:52 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > >--- Bbong wrote: > >> On 4/8/99 11:45 AM Beetle Juice wrote: > >> > >> >Does anyone know when club ECHO spins techno? If > >> they do at all? > >> >Thanks for help. > >> > >> NEVER... I should have added that point to my > >> previous bashing of that > >> place! I don't think club ecco will make it into > the > >> next millennium... > >> > >> bb > >> > >Although the clientelle of Ecco leaves much to be > >desired, it is one of the only spots in SJ to offer > up > >some real nice talent...any club that Jerry Bonham > >spun at definitely had something special going for > it, > >IMO. > > > >If you don't like Ecco for the people who frequent > it, > >then don't go, and be happy that those people are > not > >choosing to go to our parties instead. For > example, I > >really dislike the atmosphere in Sound Factory, but > it > >does have it's place. If Sound Factory wasn't > open, > >then all those booty-hoppers would soon find their > way > >over to 1015. > > > >1015 *has* gotten more meat-markety, BTW. Blame > the > >loft owners in SF who ultimately were responsible > for > >the shut down of V/SF and the DNA Lounge; no more > >places to drink at and pick up on each other. 1015 > is > >the last bastion of the sleazy drunken meat market > >crotch grinders. > > > >Less cheesy venues means more cheesy people coming > to > >the spots where we like to hang out. I for one > feel > >that Ecco has it's own special place in our dance > >community, and hope it survives to take some of the > >sleazy cheese off of our hands. > > > >Michael > >o)-< > > > > > > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 06:31:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19982 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 06:31:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 19968 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 06:31:24 -0000 Received: from web215.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 06:31:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409063318.24824.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.33.127] by web215.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:33:18 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:33:18 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! To: Maxik Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Maxik wrote: > > > > > > > > >--- Bbong wrote: > >> On 4/8/99 11:45 AM Beetle Juice wrote: > >> > >> >Does anyone know when club ECHO spins techno? If > >> they do at all? > >> >Thanks for help. > >> > >> NEVER... I should have added that point to my > >> previous bashing of that > >> place! I don't think club ecco will make it into > the > >> next millennium... > >> > >> bb > >> > >Although the clientelle of Ecco leaves much to be > >desired, it is one of the only spots in SJ to offer > up > >some real nice talent...any club that Jerry Bonham > >spun at definitely had something special going for > it, > >IMO. > > > >If you don't like Ecco for the people who frequent > it, > >then don't go, and be happy that those people are > not > >choosing to go to our parties instead. For > example, I > >really dislike the atmosphere in Sound Factory, but > it > >does have it's place. If Sound Factory wasn't > open, > >then all those booty-hoppers would soon find their > way > >over to 1015. > > > >1015 *has* gotten more meat-markety, BTW. Blame > the > >loft owners in SF who ultimately were responsible > for > >the shut down of V/SF and the DNA Lounge; no more > >places to drink at and pick up on each other. 1015 > is > >the last bastion of the sleazy drunken meat market > >crotch grinders. > > > >Less cheesy venues means more cheesy people coming > to > >the spots where we like to hang out. I for one > feel > >that Ecco has it's own special place in our dance > >community, and hope it survives to take some of the > >sleazy cheese off of our hands. > > > >Michael > >o)-< > > > > > Hey Mike, u said that 1051 has gotten meat markety. > How ? In what way? I go > there once in a while and i dont see any picking > uping. maybe i am looking > in a wrong place? another point from an x-club > kid. Where do u meet > people? ... if not in the danceclub then where? > > > Max. I've been going to 1015 for quite some time now, actually about four years, and have worked for Nikita/Spundae about 3 1/2 years. So I'm there almost every Friday night, and have seen the changes that have been taking place. Lately, the changes seem to have been impacted by V/SF and DNA's (temporary?) shutdown. These aren't bad changes, just changes. I have noticed tho, that it has gotten more crowded on Fridays, almost to the "Release" capacity. From a business standpoint, that's good. But as someone who needs some room to dance, it's kind of frustrating. I don't know where you're looking as far as picking-upping goes. It *seems* to be more prevalent at 1015 since V/SF and DNA shut down. I have definitely noticed more sleazy-acting people tho. It may just be me. I dunno. As far as where I go to "meet" people? Like girls, you mean? Hell if I know. I really haven't had much luck anywhere. :) mickey d o)-< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 06:40:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24682 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 06:40:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 24673 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 06:40:39 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 06:40:39 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rASQa17882; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:39:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:39:16 EDT Subject: Re: Tickle 3 related - kinda To: aweck@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IM totally down for a pre-party party.....i havent been on this list long and i already want to meet everybody because of the goodness and love you all have. so maybe we can work it out for something sooon!!! greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 06:43:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27022 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 06:43:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 26884 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 06:43:09 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 06:43:09 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA10240; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: , , Subject: Re: Tickle 3 related - kinda Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:39:54 -0400 Message-ID: <01be823a$a1b106c0$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think we all should have a pre party next weekend before harmony's spring flower harvest. that would be badass. -----Original Message----- From: MIB271@aol.com To: aweck@uclink4.berkeley.edu ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 2:40 AM Subject: Re: Tickle 3 related - kinda >IM totally down for a pre-party party.....i havent been on this list long and >i already want to meet everybody because of the goodness and love you all >have. so maybe we can work it out for something sooon!!! >greg > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 06:47:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1795 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 06:47:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 1786 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 06:47:35 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 06:47:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409064709.9495.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.33.127] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:47:09 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: 1015 Folsom To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Nikita and Spundae! Where else can you see top notch DJs flown in from out of state or out of the country EVERY WEEK? Whoo-hoo! I totally dig on clubs and raves. I just need room to dance, without having some muscley-meaty guy wanting to kick my ass when I accidentally bump into him. I haven't been to Release for awhile. So no comment on that... Regarding the "overhaul": yeah, definitely be careful. michael o)-< --- BigM009@aol.com wrote: > Hey Mickey and Max: > > 1015 Folsom is what you want it to be. And as most > of us know, each night is > promoted by different promoters. Nikita and > Spundaes on fridays and sundays > are a far cry from Release on saturday. Im not sure > why so many people on > the list come down on clubs and preach that raves > are the only way. To each > his own. I happen to enjoy the qualities of both. > And Im diffenetly into > meeting new and interesting people. And if that > particular person is drop > dead gorgeous then all the better. But I love to > dance and socialize. So > does that make me a butcher? If I choose to be, > yes. Or if you "choose" to > be then you can answer yes as well. I have been to > 1015 on various nights > where the vibe was so incrediable and then the > following week it was well, so > so. I personally enjoy Release on saturdays in the > VIP Lounge. And lately > you can feel something in the air. The crowd is > changing and getting thinner > by the week. There is about to be a major over haul > in that place so > everyone be careful in there. Alot of over dosing > on GHB and alot of people > getting busted selling in there make for a very > sketchy vibe to say the > least. Be smart, party safe, and enjoy life. > > I dont ask anything of anyone I wouldnt ask of > myself. Open your minds and > hearts. Peace, M > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 06:48:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2501 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 06:48:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 2472 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 06:47:57 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 06:47:57 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA26702 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:47:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca8-52.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.116) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma026695; Fri Apr 9 01:47:15 1999 Message-ID: <370D3793.5AF1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 23:11:15 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav djs References: <3.0.6.32.19990408034022.007e64b0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My fav DJ's are: Sandra Collins(goddess!), Heather Heart, Stacy Pullen and Kevin Lloyd(Free K). Course some other faves are Mars and Mystre. So as to the following question: > > >Now I would like to know why they are so good or why you think they > >are the best? Is it cause all candy ravers love Mars and Mystre or > >cause you do? This is not a flame I am just curious as to why SF is > >hynotized by cyber trance is it the old "Everyone else likes it so I > >guess I do too" or cause of people have had a lot of exposure to > >trance and feel mike and eric play the best? > > >Thanks, > > >Macadio I personaly LOVE trance and I always have. Actually all my friends prefer trance over anyother style. Now we are not candyravers and we are not little kids, most of us are in our later 20's and 30's with a few being 40 and a goth. To me trance is just a fab style with the hard dance your ass off to the so beautiful it makes you cry. House just doesn't do that to us. Mars and Mystre just play beautiful music that makes you want to dance. I just wish there were more trance DJ's out there or at least I want a list of all the bay area DJ's who spin trance so I can check them all out. All this talk makes me want to dance... Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 07:17:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20725 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 07:17:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 20716 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 07:17:12 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 07:17:12 -0000 Received: from HiSKiD76@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7QPEa21395; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:15:50 -0400 (EDT) From: HiSKiD76@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:15:50 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: samuel.luckenbill@yale.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: HiSKiD76@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey i like this thread since i LOVE piercings.....which by the way i have 15......and one is my tragus.....and i love that piercing soo much ....well the first time i got it done it got really infected ..so bad i had to get it surgically removed BUT i liked it so much i went and re did it.....i love how it looks......and that time i took care of it and didnt let it get all infected....so there is a good story to compare with the horror story of the tragus piercing.......( mine started out horror but it ended nicely....) loves ceL ps do i win the who has rhe most piercings award? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 07:29:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3344 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 07:29:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 3334 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 07:29:23 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 07:29:23 -0000 Received: from IIBriSkII@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7RKIa12393; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:28:13 -0400 (EDT) From: IIBriSkII@aol.com Message-ID: <358770e.243f060d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:28:13 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: HiSKiD76@aol.com, samuel.luckenbill@yale.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: IIBriSkII@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well u beat me... i only have 6... but lucky i havent had any problems with any of them ... well i had a lil problems with my nipples but they didn't get infected and get all nasty just took a lil too long to heal ... and if u are thinkin about gettin your nipples done.. i hope u can take pain ... cause it does hurt.. a lot ... but hey whats a moment of pain for a life time of pleasure.... BriSkE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 07:43:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9286 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 07:43:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9272 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 07:43:52 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 07:43:52 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7PHTa27562; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <71389a7a.243f0972@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:42:42 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* To: IIBriSkII@aol.com, HiSKiD76@aol.com, samuel.luckenbill@yale.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i was taught in my Psych class that people with alot of body peircing and tatoos are doing it psychologically to hurt themselves...to inflict pain on themselves by pericing/tatooing their bodies.... just something i wanted to share dean* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 07:47:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11527 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 07:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 11517 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 07:47:41 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 07:47:41 -0000 Received: from IIBriSkII@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7UICa20578; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:46:40 -0400 (EDT) From: IIBriSkII@aol.com Message-ID: <3b82847d.243f0a60@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:46:40 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* To: CanContrl@aol.com, HiSKiD76@aol.com, samuel.luckenbill@yale.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: IIBriSkII@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah they said the same thing in my class... but they also said something like if you dont come from a messed childhood or having some problems... and are not acting something out... then you are pretty healthy... BriSkE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 07:48:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12280 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 07:48:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 12259 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 07:48:17 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 07:48:17 -0000 Received: from HiSKiD76@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vQHKa12393; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:47:29 -0400 (EDT) From: HiSKiD76@aol.com Message-ID: <58db32ea.243f0a91@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:47:29 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* To: CanContrl@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: HiSKiD76@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/8/99 11:44:03 PM PST, CanContrl@aol.com writes: << .to inflict pain on themselves by piercing/tattooing their bodies.... >> well...it may be tru since i do LOVE pain....... 15 piercings and 2 tats....and more to come......(: ::evil lil grin:: loves ceL From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 08:23:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1024 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 08:23:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 1011 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 08:23:05 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 08:23:05 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vCAHa18505 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:22:15 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:22:15 EDT Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey Vlad! remember me? the russian guy who drove Bodhi to hombass the night before Love-A-Fair =) anyway just wishin u a happy birthday (sorry im one of the last people to do so but i really didnt know) keep up the good work with FGE! and dont listen to what some people say =) PeAcE OuT alEx =.) ps: were waitin for that FeelGood Friday makeup party =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 08:33:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4933 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 08:33:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 4920 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 08:33:36 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 08:33:36 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vGVHa20575; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <9c81a005.243f151f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:32:31 EDT Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Vlad! To: AlexG1029@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk happy B DAY VALD!!!!....what are u gonna do with ur B DAY money??...give out free water for once at ur massives? im not being a jerk..just being a bit humorous From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 12:30:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6612 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 12:29:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 6590 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 12:29:55 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 12:29:55 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Fri Apr 9 05:29:27 1999 To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, "The Red Stickman" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 04:29:27 -0800 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: 1015 Folsom X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.194 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Amen Red Stickman, Dudes getting stupid cuz of bumpin is the main reason I dont go to 1015 anymore...I have gone a few times to see Sandra Collins and DJ Sneak (and Doc Martin too), but your right the alcohol makes too many dudes stupid punks... I'm, 6-4" and I guess I am the perfect size for people of all heights to prove themselves against...but the way I handle it is with "love kills" approach...that means I apologize and throw the best vibes possible...the worst thing that has happened is the guy shoves me and I ignore his ignorance...thats all us ravers can do...ignorance is bliss for most of them I suppose... God save the underground!!!!!! Peace da'Wolf -- On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:47:09 The Red Stickman wrote: >Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Nikita and Spundae! Where >else can you see top notch DJs flown in from out of >state or out of the country EVERY WEEK? Whoo-hoo! > >I totally dig on clubs and raves. I just need room to >dance, without having some muscley-meaty guy wanting >to kick my ass when I accidentally bump into him. > >I haven't been to Release for awhile. So no comment >on that... > >Regarding the "overhaul": yeah, definitely be >careful. > >michael >o)-< > >--- BigM009@aol.com wrote: >> Hey Mickey and Max: >> >> 1015 Folsom is what you want it to be. And as most >> of us know, each night is >> promoted by different promoters. Nikita and >> Spundaes on fridays and sundays >> are a far cry from Release on saturday. Im not sure >> why so many people on >> the list come down on clubs and preach that raves >> are the only way. To each >> his own. I happen to enjoy the qualities of both. >> And Im diffenetly into >> meeting new and interesting people. And if that >> particular person is drop >> dead gorgeous then all the better. But I love to >> dance and socialize. So >> does that make me a butcher? If I choose to be, >> yes. Or if you "choose" to >> be then you can answer yes as well. I have been to >> 1015 on various nights >> where the vibe was so incrediable and then the >> following week it was well, so >> so. I personally enjoy Release on saturdays in the >> VIP Lounge. And lately >> you can feel something in the air. The crowd is >> changing and getting thinner >> by the week. There is about to be a major over haul >> in that place so >> everyone be careful in there. Alot of over dosing >> on GHB and alot of people >> getting busted selling in there make for a very >> sketchy vibe to say the >> least. Be smart, party safe, and enjoy life. >> >> I dont ask anything of anyone I wouldnt ask of >> myself. Open your minds and >> hearts. Peace, M >> > > > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 13:24:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19565 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 13:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 19556 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 13:24:32 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 13:24:32 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.86] (ghana-143.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.143]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19272; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:24:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:30:21 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Fri) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Think of what you have instead of what you want. ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 15:20:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26149 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 15:20:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26133 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 15:20:16 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 15:20:16 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vAIMa18500 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:18:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:18:08 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I preferably love Piercings better than tattoos. For tattoos, I'd be stuck with it forever and piercings I can take out when and if I don't want it anymore. I just got my tongue pierced and I also love eyebrow rings, and navel rings. . .those are the only other 2 piercings that I would want on me. on other people, other piercings are cool. .. . It's hard enough for me to believe that I got a tongue ring. . .I'm still hiding it from my parents. =P Well, see ya laterz, *hugznstuff* Tami =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 15:23:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28821 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 15:23:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 28789 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 15:23:51 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 15:23:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409152753.26306.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:27:53 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:27:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: DJ Wild Child To: Max McCauley , cherri-bomb Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I also read she plays for a center forward for a minor league football club, when shes not behind the decks. Jb --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > yoyoyoyo gramma whass kickin > > Wildchild is not dead. she just went on a super > brief (two dates in Ohio) > Us tour earlier this year with another woman DJ from > the UK called Jojo > Rock. Wildchild is pretty goddamn attractive, and > likes to wear fresh > sporty gear and gold chains. > > I have pictures of the both of them, care of my > friend in Cleveland the > one like Top Secret Gill. > > check it: > http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~maxmcc/wildchild > wheeeee! > > See you at eklektic, that'swhatI'mtalkn'bout and > Audio Impact. > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, cherri-bomb wrote: > > > hi, > > I'm wondering if anyone knows about DJ Wild Child > (emma weaver?). I've > > heard a lot of her stuff, but never anything about > her. Someone said > > they thought she was dead [???] but as far as i've > heard she's still > > around London, working on stuff. Can anyone > clarify? > > Thanks! > > ~cb > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 15:28:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2094 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 15:28:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 2078 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 15:28:02 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 15:28:02 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-223.dsp.com [204.118.76.223]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA32225; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:30:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199904091430.HAA32225@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:24:56 -0700 To: CanContrl@aol.com From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <71389a7a.243f0972@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hmm.. Does your Psych class have a textbook from the 50s, or what? Have you guys covered the concept of identity yet? Tattooing has very little to do with pain, very much to do with affirming one's identity. Both practices are rites of passage to those who actually practice them, esp. in our culture which has been bereft of such traditions for the past 100 years. Tell your teacher that ignorance isn't bliss. And then point them in the direction of some good anthro journals, like Cultural Survival Quarterly, the Journal of World Anthropology, and the Journal of World Systems (I've published in the latter two!)... Jessica At 03:42 AM 4/9/99 -0400, you wrote: >i was taught in my Psych class that people with alot of body peircing and >tatoos are doing it psychologically to hurt themselves...to inflict pain on >themselves by pericing/tatooing their bodies.... >just something i wanted to share >dean* > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 15:32:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5160 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 15:32:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 5147 invoked by uid 233); 9 Apr 1999 15:32:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 18732 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 15:09:52 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 15:09:52 -0000 Received: from EMERGEREC@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3DVGa20343 for EMERGEREC@aol.com; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:56:55 -0400 (EDT) From: EMERGEREC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:56:55 EDT Subject: This Sunday: UNDERWORLD Release Party To: EMERGEREC@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: EMERGEREC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This Sunday come to the UNDERWORLD record release listening party featuring video projections, promotional giveaways and more. DJs: Jugo, Eors Markos, Shok FREE ADMISSION before 11pm, Doors open at 8pm sharp. Ages 21 & up. Located at FLUID, 613 South 4th Street, above The Latest Dish. More information: www.elpro.com/emerge Upcoming Events include: April 18th HALOU and April 25th Gus Gus record releases. Hope to see you there!!! Shok EMERGE RECORDING www.elpro.com/emerge icq: 688455 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 15:52:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18527 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 15:52:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 18516 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 15:52:41 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 15:52:41 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id LAA06976; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id LAA21851; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:37:53 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: Samuel Luckenbill cc: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, SFRaves Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ignorant me must ask this question, but... what is a tragus? amber On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Samuel Luckenbill wrote: > > I'm going to second that, gottsi is good, maybe avoid industrial strength > in berkeley (near daddies), they pierced my tragus, and it shouldn't have > been pierced (needless to say it didn't heal well, I wasted much money, and > there's a little scar). So lesson learned: don't get your tragus pierced > if it's too small.. :) > > --sam > > >I just got my tongue pierced last week at Gottsi, > >definately a shock I'll always remember. My friend > >Therese almost passed out while watching me get it > >done. I suggest Gottsi, he did it fast, and right. > >Great job...thanks mr. ulrich for the suggestion. > >=)jer > > > > > > > >=== > >Jeremy B. Bispo > >Member Support Specialist > >Cybergold, Inc. > >2921 Adeline > >Berkeley CA 94703 > >510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > > > > > >---vipassana wrote: > >> > >> Speaking ot piercings....... Time for me to get my > >nipples stretched....... How > >> bad does it hurt? I was told by my piearcist Bima > >of "Anubis-Warpus"(Spelled > >> wrong , I know), that it hurts more that getting it > >pierced. > >> > >> vipassana > >> > >> > >> > >> BigM009@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> > *This message was transferred with a trial > >version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > >> > I just got my nipples done on monday at Studio 13 > >down here in Salinas. The > >> > girl, Lisa, was great. She came recomended. And > >I tell you with something > >> > like nipple peircing you want the person to know > >what they are doing. As for > >> > tattoo's not sure about those. Im still in the > >process of getting my art > >> > work done for my first. Peace, M > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 15:55:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20663 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 15:55:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 20651 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 15:55:09 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 15:55:09 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id LAA07768; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id LAA23045; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:49:52 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: Siphon cc: sfraves Subject: Re: look ma my pants are soiled... In-Reply-To: <370D49BD.4107EEC@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if you leave, another "positive" person will be gone from our list, and then what will it be? don't give up. everything goes through cycles from good too bad. just think of this list as a human being, filled with evil and a tiny spot of good, and if we can make this good over power all the negativity, there won't be any more of it. and you can help by making yourself the positive person that you want this list to reflect. giving up is too easy. life wouldn't be fun anymore if you gave up everytime things got ruff. if i did that, i wouldn't have the job i have now, the wonderful boyfriend i have now, the place i have now. i wouldn't have accomplished anything in life. so for all of you out there who make such a wonderful contribution to this list - stay! and don't be a quitter, because when you're down, things can only look up. (and i must add, i think the last HAS been doing well recently. if we stop with the vlad bashing things would be all good you know.) and i have just one more thing to add: if you have a spurt of emotion and write something negative to this list, maybe think about not cc'ing to sfraves and only writing to the person who pissed you off. they're the only ones that need to know anyways, unless you're that type of person who feels the need to make your business known to the entire world. in which case, get some help. much love to you all. amber think before you write. think before you write. think before you write. but that's been said a million times already. do i really need to say it again? On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Siphon wrote: > > Wow! I get back from djing in Canada and the whole list is going to > shit. I received over 500 messages full of it! > > While in Canada I didn't have to deal with such drama. It was very > nice. I didn't have the stress lead on by this list and the general > negativity this list seems to portray a majority of the time. I think > some of you need to culture yourselves. Thank god other places don't > have the % of negativity we do here - even when things go wrong and > things went wrong while I was there - the outlook was still positive and > the result was rewarding. > > Its sad that I have to come home to this after having such a great time > in Canada and telling all the people there what they are missing in SF. > Was I lying to them? Should they just stay where they are at? I'm not > sure, but when people do come from other areas lets hope they don't join > this list cause the majority of the content is so negative that it does > no good bringing in the new. It just corrupts. > > Reading this list is such a small part of the industry for me yet it > keeps me involved on a closer basis with you and you with me along > w/Urban Assault and Viberation, but to tell you the truth its really > becoming an ongoing burden reading this list. Its incredibly stressful > to read so much hate. > > Anymore of this kind of content and I'm going to have to say good-bye to > the list for a while or forever (not that anyone would care). I'm > concerned with the well being of this list and the downward spiral its > taking. At this point in my life I'm making great headway in completing > life long goals in producing music and djing and with such good things > in life happening I really don't need to be a part of a list that can't > get it together. > > Think about it folks. Something good needs to come out of this. I wish > each and everyone of you a good day! Smile. Life is precious and > short. Make good with each day you wake up! > > Respects to all, > _____________________ > S i p h o n > Urban Assault [99] > info: 408.882.5064 > http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 15:56:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21454 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 15:56:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 21445 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 15:56:18 -0000 Received: from pantheon-po03.its.yale.edu (130.132.143.34) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 15:56:18 -0000 Received: from [130.132.53.92] (audioboy.sm.yale.edu [130.132.53.92]) by pantheon-po03.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15853; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: Sam Luckenbill@sbl23.mail.yale.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:56:13 -0400 To: MacBunny From: Samuel Luckenbill Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing Cc: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, SFRaves Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the little flap on your ear that sorta covers the hole... opposite the rest of your ear -s At 11:37 AM -0400 4/9/99, MacBunny wrote: >ignorant me must ask this question, but... what is a tragus? > >amber > > >On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Samuel Luckenbill wrote: > >> >> I'm going to second that, gottsi is good, maybe avoid industrial strength >> in berkeley (near daddies), they pierced my tragus, and it shouldn't have >> been pierced (needless to say it didn't heal well, I wasted much money, and >> there's a little scar). So lesson learned: don't get your tragus pierced >> if it's too small.. :) >> >> --sam >> >> >I just got my tongue pierced last week at Gottsi, >> >definately a shock I'll always remember. My friend >> >Therese almost passed out while watching me get it >> >done. I suggest Gottsi, he did it fast, and right. >> >Great job...thanks mr. ulrich for the suggestion. >> >=)jer >> > >> > >> > >> >=== >> >Jeremy B. Bispo >> >Member Support Specialist >> >Cybergold, Inc. >> >2921 Adeline >> >Berkeley CA 94703 >> >510.845.5000 ext. 126 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >---vipassana wrote: >> >> >> >> Speaking ot piercings....... Time for me to get my >> >nipples stretched....... How >> >> bad does it hurt? I was told by my piearcist Bima >> >of "Anubis-Warpus"(Spelled >> >> wrong , I know), that it hurts more that getting it >> >pierced. >> >> >> >> vipassana >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BigM009@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> > *This message was transferred with a trial >> >version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* >> >> > I just got my nipples done on monday at Studio 13 >> >down here in Salinas. The >> >> > girl, Lisa, was great. She came recomended. And >> >I tell you with something >> >> > like nipple peircing you want the person to know >> >what they are doing. As for >> >> > tattoo's not sure about those. Im still in the >> >process of getting my art >> >> > work done for my first. Peace, M >> >> >> >> >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, >is the characteristic of one who knows." > >amber perry-mcquown > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu >amber@earthling.net >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 15:59:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22611 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 15:59:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22594 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 15:59:26 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 15:59:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409160328.4197.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:03:28 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:03:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? To: "Macadio G." , ejthadj@hotmail.com, Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I dont know if this is neccessarily true for everyone, because I never enjoyed M&M that much until I seen them spin at a small UG with only 10 or so people left dancing at the party around the decks when Mars finished his set. I was screaming and jumping all around, even though the whole party had just about left. I think I never got to enjoy them before because TOO many people were crowding around them. However, maybe kidz who are brand new to the scene get swept in by the M&M hype because everyone else is so excited, I think that the music is very e friendly also. I enjoy listening to their music, but have a very hard time dancing to it!! just typin, jess --- "Macadio G." wrote: > Now I would like to know why they are so good or why > you think they > are the best? Is it cause all candy ravers love Mars > and Mystre or > cause you do? This is not a flame I am just curious > as to why SF is > hynotized by cyber trance is it the old "Everyone > else likes it so I > guess I do too" or cause of people have had a lot of > exposure to > trance and feel mike and eric play the best? > > Thanks, > > Macadio > > > >From: "Eric Baumgartner" > >To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? > >Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:28:33 PDT > > > >All I can say, is if I ever see a rave, with Mars > or Mystere there, > >I'm There, I have never heard so much built up > energy from trance > dj's > >at a rave. They really get you going. And they mix > the best of the > best > >stuff. But, I"M SURE, ya'll already knew that huh? > >EJ > > > > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 16:06:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27512 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 16:06:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 27500 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:06:29 -0000 Received: from netcom2.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:06:29 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom2.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id JAA01922; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Reply-To: unclenoah Subject: [BSP] the Electronic Sampler To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Saturday Saturday Saturday (note: Satur-DAY not Satur-NIGHT) a bunch of great DJs and me are going to be invading a small portion of the Stanfurd Junior University campus to play some music that a lot of the folks attending will have never heard before. this fully-legit daytime party has been coordinated by my buddy Johnnie and it should be quite entertaining. better than all that, it's free! so, come have fun, harass me, harass the other DJs, etc. etc. etc. The Electronic Sampler 650.286.7599 see you there! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GTA - "The Parti EP" Orbit Trnsmission 007 available now at your local record shop. info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 16:08:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28529 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 16:08:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 28516 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:08:19 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:08:19 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vUCLa21399 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:07:12 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:07:12 EDT Subject: Happy Birthday Vlad! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy Birthday Vlad :)....hope you have a wonderful bday! ~Sami *wishing you a happy brithday* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 16:18:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4622 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 16:18:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 4399 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:18:42 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:18:42 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca36-104.ix.netcom.com [207.92.172.104]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06048 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370E280F.8CCB01F1@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:17:19 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: He's BACK!!! RUN Away!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I'm back. Does anyone want to play? I got lonely and realized this: It is not possible as a human being to be independent because that would make you less of a human. Part of being human has to do with needing other humans to be there. A person can not live on food and drink alone. Once in a while you need someone to keep you company. And that means someone has to like you for them to want to put up with your bullshit. This person either keeps you company because of a) you have something they want b) they want your attention c) you provide this person with what they need.... any way it's one of those reasons or their could be a d) but i dont wanna get into that. The next part is how do you attract people who you don't have anything they want and you don't pay attention to anyone but yourself and you don't provide anything for anyone? You need to figure out what people are missing in their lives. And you must be the one person who can fill that gap. If not, why would they even bother coming to see you? Sure! You MAY look good, you MAY smell good, and you MAY dance good, but if you don't have a friend in the world then you are no good. I think the things that everyone needs is the feeling that they are needed, appreciated, listen to, and having your existence acknowledged. This is something that many many people fail to give others. I think if all this was provided to at least 2 of your friends then they might actually call you once in a while! OK... Well I am done. Hi! Supa Cand*e PiMP Kid =Paul*E*Wog P.S. Welcome to hell, Lara <3*Muah!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 16:56:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26960 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 16:56:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26911 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:56:10 -0000 Received: from tracker-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO tracker.excite.com) (198.3.99.217) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:56:10 -0000 Received: from mystic.excite.com ([199.172.152.98]) by tracker.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990409165459.XYFO22687.tracker@mystic.excite.com> for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:54:59 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: friday thoughts Message-Id: <923676900.13812.943@excite.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:55:00 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk since i get the digest and read about 50 posts at once... i'll just respond in the same format! 1. someone complained about saying happy birthday on here?!? yikes! to me, sometimes this list is like a big room and one of us gets to holler something out that we *know* lots of people will want to know... esp when it's the birthday of someone who so many people know personally... that kind of personal connection is what makes this list stronger, in my opinion. we are *not* strangers! we are friends! 2. piercing and tattooing -- i've posted many times on this topic, but i'll just summarize... as someone whose first tattoo is 28 years old (yep, you read that right, it's older than many of you on this list!!) i have some definite thoughts on this topic! .... for tattoos, plan carefully, choose something with strong and well-considered personal meaning, and don't think about cost... believe me, in the long run, it doesnt matter if you saved a few bucks... and if you can't afford what you really want... SAVE YOUR MONEY AND WAIT!!! nothing is sadder to me than seeing some dime-sized badly done tattoo on a kid who picked some flash off the wall because that was what they could get for their 50 bucks or whatever... this is your body FOREVER... wait, plan, think about it, visualize it, make it mean something, then choose the very best... to me, the right tattoo is *already* on your body.... you just can't see it until the artist works their magic with the ink... so until you can see it in your mind's eye, it's not time yet! for piercing... it's not permanent (though once you stretch your ears up the 1/2" or more like mine, there's really no turning back), but you still need to choose someone who really knows that they're doing and has the safest equipment .... i, like michael standish, recommend gottsi in berkeley.... and i caution against places that also sell clothes, do tattooing, whatever... (don't know about industrial strength, but they do have cool stainless plugs with acrylic insets.. never wear acrylic or anything that is not inert in your body!) and yes, it hurts more to stretch than to pierce... but remember, this ain't a contest of who's got more piercings or bigger or whatever... piercing to me is about aesthetics and adornment... i love my piercings (though i haven't had anything new in 5 years, ran out of good places!).... but safety is everything, and do what YOU want, and what looks (or feels) good on *you*! 3. clubs.... shit, 1015 folsom rocks sometimes! comeunity was totally grooving, and i love nikita before it gets too crowded upstairs... and then i go down into the basement and dance to jungle, where there's always room, and a great crowd! tonight is wicked at 177 townsend, for you evil progressive househeads... see you there! so, happy friday everyone, have a great and safe weekend, let's pray for a warm day, ok?!? love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 16:56:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27139 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 16:56:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 26956 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:56:18 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:56:18 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-136.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.136]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA09689; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990409152851.006a5764@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:28:51 -0500 To: CanContrl@aol.com From: Nuku Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So i guess the thousands of tribes across the world who do scarfication or some other form of body manipulation have self-hate? That reasoning that you have is way dated, ppl have tats for different reasons. Mine is a talisman for my past and what unfolded in it and i will never forget it, (if anything thats self-love and acceptance.) And well the piercing is for my cock blockin player haters. Werd to Y0 motha! Nuku At 03:42 AM 4/9/99 EDT, you wrote: >i was taught in my Psych class that people with alot of body peircing and >tatoos are doing it psychologically to hurt themselves...to inflict pain on >themselves by pericing/tatooing their bodies.... >just something i wanted to share >dean* > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 16:59:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29028 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 16:59:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 29019 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:59:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tides3.tides) (198.94.2.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:59:16 -0000 Received: by TIDES3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2RRD0XRM>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:04:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mark Hellar To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: YEa Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:04:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Smoooooke Nuggets! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 17:12:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7276 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 17:12:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 7267 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 17:12:46 -0000 Received: from law-f94.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.157) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 17:12:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 35558 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 17:12:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409171220.35557.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:12:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:12:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sooo many... DRC Dj Dan Rinse & Flux recently took a big liking to MC Jamalski Frankie Bones Science (yeeeeah!) Greg Sandler Mars & MystyrE Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 17:30:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17094 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 17:30:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 17083 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 17:30:14 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 17:30:14 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3WNZa05281 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:26:42 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <8497ade3.243f9252@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:26:42 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/9/99 12:44:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, CanContrl@aol.com writes: << i was taught in my Psych class that people with alot of body peircing and tatoos are doing it psychologically to hurt themselves...to inflict pain on themselves by pericing/tatooing their bodies.... just something i wanted to share dean* >> I feel that a lot of that information was written by an older generation, who learned that any self mutilation is an act of inner problems. but GUESS WHAT?? this is the 90's and while self mutilation is still a really big problem that a lot of people have, Tattooing and body piercings are so common and popular that it's really not the same thing anymore. All that information needs to be updated (IMHO) to fit new categories. Just like we are constantly discovering new medical facts.. this too needs to be reexamined. I'm not saying people that pierce a lot of stuff don't have problems.. just that I know everyone and their mother in High school thinks it's "COOL" to pierce stuff. YUCK! I almost wish it did mean if you pierced something there was something wrong with you.. that way everyone else would stop doing it. =D =D =D hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 17:35:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21668 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 17:35:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 21469 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 17:34:56 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 17:34:56 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vELPa07515; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:34:24 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <552b6fc0.243f9420@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:34:24 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what i meant to say was not some guy with one eyebrow peircing like myself has any problems...lol...ok but someone that has like 70 peircing in some crazy places has got to have some problems...i mean..*ya man i have my penis peirced 20 times, my throat, my hand, etc..*...that person has issues wether u like it or not...UNLESS he/she is part of some culture that peirces for some cultural reason... << i was taught in my Psych class that people with alot of body peircing and tatoos are doing it psychologically to hurt themselves...to inflict pain on themselves by pericing/tatooing their bodies.... just something i wanted to share dean* >> I feel that a lot of that information was written by an older generation, who learned that any self mutilation is an act of inner problems. but GUESS WHAT?? this is the 90's and while self mutilation is still a really big problem that a lot of people have, Tattooing and body piercings are so common and popular that it's really not the same thing anymore. All that information needs to be updated (IMHO) to fit new categories. Just like we are constantly discovering new medical facts.. this too needs to be reexamined. I'm not saying people that pierce a lot of stuff don't have problems.. just that I know everyone and their mother in High school thinks it's "COOL" to pierce stuff. YUCK! I almost wish it did mean if you pierced something there was something wrong with you.. that way everyone else would stop doing it. =D =D =D hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 18:05:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17568 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 18:05:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 17425 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 18:05:08 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 18:05:08 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7ZDQa01909; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:03:44 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: <414384d2.243f9b00@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:03:44 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: IIBriSkII@aol.com, HiSKiD76@aol.com, samuel.luckenbill@yale.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the nipple piercing hurts more on guys than on girls.i kno this becuz i enjoyed the feeling of getting my ( * )( * ) pierced and would do it all over again any day~! Linz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 18:13:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24675 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 18:13:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 24513 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 18:13:09 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 18:13:09 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vBKNa01910 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:09:23 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <1b2c2cae.243f9c53@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:09:23 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing*(its Vlad's fault) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Vlad, see what you started with this phrase: And well the piercing is for my cock blockin player haters. Werd to Y0 motha! Nuku Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 18:50:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9571 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 18:50:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 9431 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 18:50:19 -0000 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (17.254.0.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 18:50:19 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA47742 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:44:58 -0700 Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (mailgate2.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:44:51 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv3.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA17048; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:44:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199904091844.LAA17048@scv3.apple.com> Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:44:52 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "The Red Stickman" , "Wayne Radinsky" Cc: "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HuH? Club ecco is in San Jose.. not SF there was never a cabaret license to loose! bbong On 4/8/99 11:08 PM The Red Stickman wrote: >not gone, but lost their liquor licence, and cabaret >licence as well. the cabaret licence allows the club >to go later than 2AM. after losing the liquor >licence, the club can not get another cabaret licence, >cause SF isn't issuing anymore, from what i >understand. > >losing a liquor licence and shutting down is kinda >like the death of a club in a way. and losing the >cabaret licence pretty much turns the club into a big >giant bar... > >seeya, >mkd >o)-< > >--- Wayne Radinsky wrote: >> >> Huh? What, Michael? V/SF and DNA Lounge are gone? >> ---------- >> >From: The Red Stickman >> >To: Bbong ,Beetle >> Juice >> , SFRaves >> >> >Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! >> >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:28:52 -0700 (PDT) >> > >> > >> > >> >--- Bbong wrote: >> >> On 4/8/99 11:45 AM Beetle Juice wrote: >> >> >> >> >Does anyone know when club ECHO spins techno? If >> >> they do at all? >> >> >Thanks for help. >> >> >> >> NEVER... I should have added that point to my >> >> previous bashing of that >> >> place! I don't think club ecco will make it into >> the >> >> next millennium... >> >> >> >> bb >> >> >> >Although the clientelle of Ecco leaves much to be >> >desired, it is one of the only spots in SJ to offer >> up >> >some real nice talent...any club that Jerry Bonham >> >spun at definitely had something special going for >> it, >> >IMO. >> > >> >If you don't like Ecco for the people who frequent >> it, >> >then don't go, and be happy that those people are >> not >> >choosing to go to our parties instead. For >> example, I >> >really dislike the atmosphere in Sound Factory, but >> it >> >does have it's place. If Sound Factory wasn't >> open, >> >then all those booty-hoppers would soon find their >> way >> >over to 1015. >> > >> >1015 *has* gotten more meat-markety, BTW. Blame >> the >> >loft owners in SF who ultimately were responsible >> for >> >the shut down of V/SF and the DNA Lounge; no more >> >places to drink at and pick up on each other. 1015 >> is >> >the last bastion of the sleazy drunken meat market >> >crotch grinders. >> > >> >Less cheesy venues means more cheesy people coming >> to >> >the spots where we like to hang out. I for one >> feel >> >that Ecco has it's own special place in our dance >> >community, and hope it survives to take some of the >> >sleazy cheese off of our hands. >> > >> >Michael >> >o)-< >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit >> http://www.msn.com >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 19:03:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2308 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 19:03:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 2299 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 19:03:49 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd123.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.187) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 19:03:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 85498 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 19:03:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409190322.85497.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.173.42.100 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:03:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.173.42.100] From: "Kriss *" To: macadio@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:03:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i know this is a few days late, but... personally, i really like mars & mystre. i'm not a dj, and i don't hear the mixing like a lot of dj's do, so i can't really speak to their mixing skills. they sound fine to me. but i LOVE their track selections. (well, most of them - i could do without the titanic song or enola gay [sorry, i know some of you love those, but i just don't!]) many of their tracks have great melodies. a great melody is what makes "regular" songs popular. every time i hear mars or mystre spin, i pretty much have to dance b/c the music inspires me to. not all types of music or djs do that for me. btw, if you see mars today or this weekend, wish him a happy birthday! have a great weekend everyone! with love, kriss =) >Now I would like to know why they are so good or why you think they >are the best? Is it cause all candy ravers love Mars and Mystre or >cause you do? This is not a flame I am just curious as to why SF is >hynotized by cyber trance is it the old "Everyone else likes it so I >guess I do too" or cause of people have had a lot of exposure to >trance and feel mike and eric play the best? > >Thanks, > >Macadio > > >>From: "Eric Baumgartner" >>To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? >>Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:28:33 PDT >> >>All I can say, is if I ever see a rave, with Mars or Mystere there, >>I'm There, I have never heard so much built up energy from trance >dj's >>at a rave. They really get you going. And they mix the best of the >best >>stuff. But, I"M SURE, ya'll already knew that huh? >>EJ >> >> >>Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 19:19:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13029 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 19:19:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 12833 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 19:19:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 19:19:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 4581 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 19:18:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409191851.4580.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.78 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:18:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.78] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: CONGRATS ON DISCOVERY!!!!!! Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:18:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just wanna congradulate raoul and greg for putting on such a bomb ass party last night in santa rosa. discovery was where the party was definetely at. i was so happy to see so many kids show up to support. congrats also go out to all the djs that played phat sets, and all the kids that got up there to have some fun! i know that i had tons of fun!!!!!!!!! good job you guys! love the one and only LuSh SnOOpiE ;P Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 19:23:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16473 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 19:23:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 16464 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 19:23:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.etrade.com) (204.5.38.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 19:23:11 -0000 Received: from bayarea.net (pc0327.etrade.com [204.163.200.157]) by mx.etrade.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23491 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370E50EB.491AF569@bayarea.net> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:11:39 -0700 From: Jim Maze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: NRR: World War III?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK....I am normally not caught up in all the Armegeddon paranoia or anything....but this can't be good. Especially considering that Nostradomus predicted the end of the world in July 1999. Better rave it up while we still can ;) http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9904/09/kosovo.diplomacy.02/ Yeltsin warns of possible world war over Kosovo April 9, 1999 MOSCOW (CNN) -- Russian President Boris Yeltsin warned NATO Friday not to push Moscow toward military action over Kosovo, saying this could trigger a possible world war. Meanwhile, the Kremlin denied that Russian missiles had been retargeted toward NATO countries. (and later.....) "I told NATO, the Americans, the Germans: Don't push us towards military action. Otherwise, there will be a European war for sure and possibly world war," Yeltsin said in a meeting with regional leaders. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 19:25:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18076 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 19:25:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 17946 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 19:25:19 -0000 Received: from law-f155.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.218) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 19:25:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 60951 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 19:24:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409192452.60950.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:24:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org Subject: Re: NRR-Naughty Quote of the day!!! Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:24:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk how about the ever famous airplane quotation of: "Joey, ...you like movies about...Gladiators?" -Captain Oveur Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 19:27:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20340 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 19:27:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 20164 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 19:27:10 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 19:27:10 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7MXJa23597; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:19:20 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <5d2c1bfe.243facb8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:19:20 EDT Subject: Re: He's BACK!!! RUN Away!!! To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk welcome back paul hehe From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 19:38:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27080 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 19:38:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 26984 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 19:38:33 -0000 Received: from pop03.globecomm.net (206.253.130.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 19:38:33 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop03.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA24434 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990409123304.038eed00@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:37:40 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: binary fineboy Subject: Re: CONGRATS ON DISCOVERY!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <19990409191851.4580.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll second that ... hell I cant't remember the last time I had that much fun on a thursday night. It was an interesting mix of ravers and santa rose clubberz but I had a helluva time and yeah ... can we through the next one in San Jose?? ~r At 12:18 PM 4/9/99 , LuSh SnOOpiE wrote: >i just wanna congradulate raoul and greg for putting on such a bomb >ass party last night in santa rosa. discovery was where the party >was definetely at. i was so happy to see so many kids show up to >support. congrats also go out to all the djs that played phat sets, >and all the kids that got up there to have some fun! i know that i >had tons of fun!!!!!!!!! > >good job you guys! > >love >the one and only LuSh SnOOpiE ;P > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 19:39:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27828 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 19:39:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 27803 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 19:39:12 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 19:39:12 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vFIa027562 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:37:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:37:50 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/9/99 12:44:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, CanContrl@aol.com writes: Trust me, my piercing was two seconds of pain and i definetly get pleasure out of it.. so it was definetly worth it.. it's not because i want to psychologically get pain out of it...and if it is true and that's why i did it, .. wow, then bring on the pain!!!! MUAH sparkles :) << i was taught in my Psych class that people with alot of body peircing and tatoos are doing it psychologically to hurt themselves...to inflict pain on themselves by pericing/tatooing their bodies.... just something i wanted to share dean* >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 19:47:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6218 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 19:47:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 6018 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 19:47:34 -0000 Received: from smtp2.stanford.edu (171.64.14.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 19:47:34 -0000 Received: from [171.64.186.81] (tedmcguire.Stanford.EDU [171.64.186.81]) by smtp2.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/L) with ESMTP id MAA15175 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: emcguire@pobox2.stanford.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:46:55 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Ted McGuire Subject: the Electronic Sampler!!! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey new raver friends!!! i just joined this list, and really want to invite all of you to fly on over here to my little campus to check out this rad party tomorrow!! they've got a diverse, tight line-up, and it's not everyday stanford gets a rave! please come and add to the peace love respect and sparkles!! it's free and chill! luv luv luv xoxoxoxox, your new friend, teddE bear >Saturday Saturday Saturday >(note: Satur-DAY not Satur-NIGHT) > >a bunch of great DJs and me are going to be invading a small portion of >the Stanfurd Junior University campus to play some music that a lot of >the folks attending will have never heard before. this fully-legit >daytime party has been coordinated by my buddy Johnnie and it should be >quite entertaining. better than all that, it's free! > >so, come have fun, harass me, harass the other DJs, etc. etc. etc. > >The Electronic Sampler 650.286.7599 >see you there! > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >GTA - "The Parti EP" >Orbit Trnsmission 007 >available now at your local record shop. > >info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 > Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 _______________________________________ Ted McGuire Junipero PO Box 14429, Stanford, CA 94309 650-497-6195 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 19:51:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9857 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 19:51:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 9832 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 19:51:33 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 19:51:33 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-26.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.26]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA28755 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990409182411.006b8804@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:24:11 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing*(its Vlad's fault) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why you wanna be hatin like dat. I ain't got nuttin but love for ya, even though you tryin to cock-block a playah. *grin* Keep it real. Nuku At 02:09 PM 4/9/99 EDT, you wrote: >Vlad, see what you started with this phrase: > >And well the piercing is for my cock >blockin player haters. Werd to Y0 motha! > >Nuku > > >Peace, M > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 20:15:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26660 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 20:15:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 26465 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 20:15:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.47) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 20:15:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 88659 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 20:14:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409201450.88658.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.78 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:14:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.78] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: Macias20@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:14:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have to agree with that. i have 11 holes in my ears and one in my tounge. i love to play with all of them. plus, i have to admit that my boyfriend loves it that i have my tounge pierced. i didn't get them all because i wanted to hurt myself, but i just liked the way that it looked and i was curious so i did it. when i got my tounge pierced, yeah sure it hurt like hell, but it's soo worth it now. love LuSh SnOOpiE ;P >From: Macias20@aol.com >Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:37:50 EDT > >In a message dated 4/9/99 12:44:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >CanContrl@aol.com writes: >Trust me, my piercing was two seconds of pain and i definetly get pleasure >out of it.. so it was definetly worth it.. it's not because i want to >psychologically get pain out of it...and if it is true and that's why i did >it, .. wow, then bring on the pain!!!! MUAH sparkles :) ><< > i was taught in my Psych class that people with alot of body peircing and > tatoos are doing it psychologically to hurt themselves...to inflict pain on > themselves by pericing/tatooing their bodies.... > just something i wanted to share > dean* >> > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 20:16:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27809 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 20:15:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 27754 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 20:15:51 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 20:15:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409200930.13419.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.242] by attach1; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:09:30 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:09:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: CONGRATS ON DISCOVERY!!!!!! To: LuSh SnOOpiE , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I second that...it was definately a fun night. Tooo bad I had to work this morning. =)jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---LuSh SnOOpiE wrote: > > i just wanna congradulate raoul and greg for putting on such a bomb > ass party last night in santa rosa. discovery was where the party > was definetely at. i was so happy to see so many kids show up to > support. congrats also go out to all the djs that played phat sets, > and all the kids that got up there to have some fun! i know that i > had tons of fun!!!!!!!!! > > good job you guys! > > love > the one and only LuSh SnOOpiE ;P > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 20:24:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3444 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 20:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 3426 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 20:24:27 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 20:24:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA09500; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:24:02 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: michael waldren cc: vipassana@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Piecings In-Reply-To: <19990408235456.63636.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, michael waldren wrote: -&e->Speaking of piecings, anyone seen the movie Strange Lands, it stars -&e->the lead singer of Twisted Sister, and it is freaky. I know this is NRR, but I used to live down the street from Dee Snyder (the lead singer of Twisted Sister) back in LA. Never talked to him, but he'd cruise around before the helmet law with his shaggy ass hair blowing in the wind on his purple Harley. What a hesher... damn long haired freaks. I used to hang out at the 7-11 playing FunHouse pinball and drinking Slurpees. Heh heh ehhh. I'm all better now. Whaddaya wanna do with your life... I wanna rock. AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 20:25:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4809 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 20:25:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 4573 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 20:25:08 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 20:25:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA09564; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: Michael Standish cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: what aree you gonn be doin on april 20th... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Michael Standish wrote: -&e->>what are yer plans this year for 4/20.. -&e-> -&e->I'll be praying to Thor, Odin, and any other Gods I can think of, to -&e->thank them for letting not smoke pot. Yeah, smoking pot destroys your grammar cells. AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 20:58:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28575 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 20:58:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 28537 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 20:58:31 -0000 Received: from fes-qout.whowhere.com (HELO mailcity.com) (209.1.236.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 20:58:31 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Fri Apr 9 13:57:51 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Laalkuchaa@aol.com Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:57:51 -0800 From: "Pantera King" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Re : NRR ORIGIN OF AIDS * Thanks everyone :) X-Sender-Ip: 209.185.110.113 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -- On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:15:29 Laalkuchaa wrote: >Thanks to everyone who E-mailed me privately and to those who posted on the >list about where I can find more information on the origin of AIDS. I found >them all very helpful. One person E-mailed me that AIDS came from monkeys >and that some people ate monkey thats how humans got it. From my research on >the subject while this is sort of true, I would just like to clarify this >statement. Scientists now believe that AIDS first appeared in Africa. There >have been many theories to try to explain the origin of AIDS, but the truth >is no one has any evidence stating definitely that this is where it came >from. But the one I found interesting was the "kinky-African-sex-theory" - >thir words not mine. It involves a bizare sexual practice where, to heighten >sexual arousal, male and female members of tribes in Central Africa introduce >monkey blood into their pubic areas, thighs and backs. > The Laal Kuchaaa > Only the most incredibly dumb would buy into this without firm documentation. Reminds me of the Black Muslim theory of the origins of "whites", by the evil Dr. Yacoub. Laughable if so many dummies didn't believe that too. oh boy. Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 21:13:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11667 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 21:13:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 11638 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 21:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 21:13:14 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 66; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:10:56 -0700 Message-ID: <370E707F.A403D051@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:26:24 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pantera King CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Laalkuchaa@aol.com Subject: Re: Re : NRR ORIGIN OF AIDS * Thanks everyone :) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HIV, and all 3 known forms of the Ebola Virus have all been traced back to a certain area of Africa. It is documented that monkeys are the carriers. However, no one has figured out the source of the virus, although it is believed that both virus's came from Kitmuns (could be wrong on the spelling) cave. Incidentally, it is theorized that this very area was the intitial birthplace of life on thie planet. For more info on the subject, check out the book "The Hot Zone", a non fiction work that led to the popular movie "Outbreak". Its definitly a sobering read. john r Pantera King wrote: > -- > > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:15:29 Laalkuchaa wrote: > >Thanks to everyone who E-mailed me privately and to those who posted on the > >list about where I can find more information on the origin of AIDS. I found > >them all very helpful. One person E-mailed me that AIDS came from monkeys > >and that some people ate monkey thats how humans got it. From my research on > >the subject while this is sort of true, I would just like to clarify this > >statement. Scientists now believe that AIDS first appeared in Africa. There > >have been many theories to try to explain the origin of AIDS, but the truth > >is no one has any evidence stating definitely that this is where it came > >from. But the one I found interesting was the "kinky-African-sex-theory" - > >thir words not mine. It involves a bizare sexual practice where, to heighten > >sexual arousal, male and female members of tribes in Central Africa introduce > >monkey blood into their pubic areas, thighs and backs. > > The Laal Kuchaaa > > > > Only the most incredibly dumb would buy into this without firm documentation. > > Reminds me of the Black Muslim theory of the origins of "whites", by the evil Dr. Yacoub. Laughable if so many dummies didn't believe that too. > > oh boy. > > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com > Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 21:18:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16089 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 21:18:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 16059 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 21:18:26 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 21:18:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409210208.7089.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.163.39.25] by web1; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:02:08 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: cherri-bomb Subject: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think body art is generally a very misunderstood art form-- especially with older generations but also with younger people who decide to pierce or tattoo because they think its "trendy" or "cool". Its been around for so long that its obviously not just a trend or style issue, more like a personal self-expression type deal. ***Here's something to think about though:*** every piercing you get can affect various pressure and energy points so if you're thinking of getting a metal bar somewhere kinda different, you might want to ask an acupuncturist what you'd be messing with, if anything at all. =) ~cb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 21:27:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27296 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 21:27:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 27274 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 21:27:09 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 21:27:09 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA10732 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:26:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca24-32.ix.netcom.com(209.110.229.224) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010660; Fri Apr 9 16:25:58 1999 Message-ID: <370E7061.CC368B3C@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:25:53 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: NRR : Much thanks from Vlad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just wanted to thank all those that sent me birthday wishes... publicly and privately. You guys really put a smile on my face... thanks for doing that... it was really nice :) You guys are all great, and truly made me feel good. Thanks again... and keep it mellow, Vlad From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 21:42:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15568 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 21:42:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 15545 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 21:42:39 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 21:42:39 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (1Cust101.tnt1.sfo1.da.uu.net [208.250.183.101]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA30359 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990409144413.00754748@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:44:13 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: swati shah Subject: Discovery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I had a really good time at Discovery last night, despite being pushed and shoved every 37 seconds. I'd just like to remind people not to step on the little short people who you might have overlooked. they are there, and it hurts when you step on them. One more thing...did anyone else catch the bombass tune Mars and Mystr-e spun? Inspector Gadget????? It was so incredible. Took me a little while to recognize it. The music was awesome, the location was totally chill and well ventilated. One question though...wasn't Erik Brown supposed to spin? luv, Swati From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 21:54:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26476 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 21:54:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 26347 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 21:54:20 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 21:54:20 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (1Cust101.tnt1.sfo1.da.uu.net [208.250.183.101]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00768; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990409145518.00748874@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:55:18 -0700 To: cherri-bomb , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: swati shah Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* In-Reply-To: <19990409210208.7089.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tattoos and piercings are very personal, intimate things. They're also very sensual. My tattoos are a form of religious confirmation for me, to prove to myself and to the higher ups that i am forever dedicated to Shri Krishna. As for the best places to get them, I recommend Wicked on Telegraph Ave. in Berkeley. I used to work there, so I may be a little biased. But I also have had a lot of experience with them, and so I know exactly how cautious and cleanly they are. The two piercers are Jason and Tom, and they're both very talented. Tom did two of my piercings, one of which three other piercers said couldn't be done. But Tom and I devised a plan, and seriously, that piercing is so wonderful. Jason is by far the most sterile piercer, he is so anal about everything being clean. His work is very precise since he's so cautious about everything. Tattoo wise, the new artists at Wicked are amazing. Olmi and Jason both do incredible detail and color. I got one of my tattoos from Joel, who is an amazing artist. His designs are gorgeous, and his technique is so fast. I got a lotus flower on one hip and it only took a maximum of 10 minutes. I'm really happy with it. Good luck to all of you! I highly recommend piercings and tattoos to everyone, but I must say, they are addictive and expensive, so be careful!!! luv, swati From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:07:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5866 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:06:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 5689 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:06:54 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:06:54 -0000 Received: from mdowling (adsl-216-100-248-21.dsl.pacbell.net [216.100.248.21] (may be forged)) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id PAA14586 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904092204.PAA14586@proxy4.ba.best.com> Reply-To: From: "Michael D. Dowling" To: Subject: NRR: Bored? Need something to um, listen to? Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:05:10 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, i just couldn't resist =) http://www.pins.co.uk/upages/tracey/farts/farts.html -------------------------------------------- michael d. dowling (Personal Email Account) "We've built houses for hatred, It's time we made a place Where people's souls may be seen and be safe. Be careful with each other, these fragile flames For innocence can't be lost it just needs to be maintained...." (415) 239-2424 home (888) 434-9132 pager http://www.essential.net/vanity/ (vanity page) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:07:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6540 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:07:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 6410 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:07:11 -0000 Received: from web206.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:07:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409220527.11520.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.20.212] by web206.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:05:27 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: swati shah MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, I have had at one point 7 piercings, one in each nipple, my tongue, my lebret, my septum and one in each ear, but I took the septum out cause I got sick right afterwards and its got all snotty so I took it out, but I am going to get it done again. I also have one tattoo, I would have more, but I would like to put my own drawings on my body and so far I have only come up with one I liked enough to get done. My body art is so much a part of me I really couldnt imagine taking them out, and they are very sensual. Steve =) PS - Swati, which one did the piercers say was impossible? I am tres curious. --- swati shah wrote: > Tattoos and piercings are very personal, intimate > things. They're also very > sensual. My tattoos are a form of religious > confirmation for me, to prove > to myself and to the higher ups that i am forever > dedicated to Shri Krishna. > > As for the best places to get them, I recommend > Wicked on Telegraph Ave. in > Berkeley. I used to work there, so I may be a little > biased. But I also > have had a lot of experience with them, and so I > know exactly how cautious > and cleanly they are. The two piercers are Jason and > Tom, and they're both > very talented. Tom did two of my piercings, one of > which three other > piercers said couldn't be done. But Tom and I > devised a plan, and > seriously, that piercing is so wonderful. Jason is > by far the most sterile > piercer, he is so anal about everything being clean. > His work is very > precise since he's so cautious about everything. > > Tattoo wise, the new artists at Wicked are amazing. > Olmi and Jason both do > incredible detail and color. I got one of my > tattoos from Joel, who is an > amazing artist. His designs are gorgeous, and his > technique is so fast. I > got a lotus flower on one hip and it only took a > maximum of 10 minutes. I'm > really happy with it. > > Good luck to all of you! I highly recommend > piercings and tattoos to > everyone, but I must say, they are addictive and > expensive, so be careful!!! > > luv, > swati > === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:11:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8732 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:11:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8432 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:10:57 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:10:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409220904.27484.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.251.191.62] by web4; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:09:04 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:09:04 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: eklektic stories. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh man another night of espressos and redbull and royal jelly and then valerian root to take off the edge- I guess that qualifies me as a healthfood store abuser. I was gonna go home and take it easy. After relapsing into my bronchitis from abusing red-bull and 1015- I thought it was time to take easy. But DJ Sage was in kinkos doing her press kit and she convinced me that Eklectik would be a good one that night. Although it is a crappy blue collar job, I have gotten to meet and help many of the cities awesome djs and promoters. Although, it can be trying when I need to study for my Unix exam and my frinds need emergency flyers ;) So I grabbed my coworker and headed off. He is undergoing the same wonderful couch-surfing/ hotel living situation that I had to endure when I moved here(anyone with a reasonably priced room needing a cool trance loving guy?). So I offered to put him up for the night if he would come with me. Since I was feeling, tired we decided to get red-bull and give ourselves wings. It should be the official drink of junglists and drumnbassers cause lord knows it is the only way I can keep up. It was a really good night, although I didn't know that it was a sad occasion- a memorial for someone named skyler. I didn't know the who when whys of her death- i guess when I go I would want people dancing and having a good time so that was a good thing. now I am resting up for rollerdisco at cell tonight- that should be a blast. pjf From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:11:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10235 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:11:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 10105 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:11:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anlsf.com) (206.79.166.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:11:34 -0000 Received: from ntserver ([206.79.166.23]) by anlsf.com (Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) with SMTP id 8825674E.007A1C9A; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:13:47 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990409151717.007d8910@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:17:17 -0700 To: swati shah From: deepbeep Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* Cc: cherri-bomb , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990409145518.00748874@uclink4.berkeley.edu> References: <19990409210208.7089.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >As for the best places to get them, I recommend Wicked on Telegraph Ave. in >Berkeley. I used to work there, so I may be a little biased. But I also >have had a lot of experience with them, and so I know exactly how cautious >and cleanly they are. The two piercers are Jason and Tom, and they're both >very talented. Tom did two of my piercings, one of which three other >piercers said couldn't be done. But Tom and I devised a plan, and >seriously, that piercing is so wonderful. Jason is by far the most sterile >piercer, he is so anal about everything being clean. His work is very >precise since he's so cautious about everything. Jason is indeed a very precise kid. He's a personal friend of mine, and always wanted to pierce me as practice, before he started at wicked. ummm... That's probably why I still don't have any piercings.. heh... I'm just a wee bit scared by the thought of a needle going -thru- me. Of course I fully realize I'm being highly hypocritical, since I'm not scared in the least of tattoo work. Oh well... I kinda prefer the permanence of tattoos anyway... :::hugs::: d. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:13:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11954 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:13:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 11943 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:13:15 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:13:15 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id SAA11608; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990409151115.03947220@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:11:58 -0700 To: swati shah , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: binary fineboy Subject: Re: Discovery In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990409144413.00754748@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >One more thing...did anyone else catch the bombass tune Mars and Mystr-e >spun? Inspector Gadget????? It was so incredible. Took me a little while to >recognize it. > actually it was "in the hall of the mountain king" ... almost like Inspector Gadget but not quite. ~r ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:17:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15156 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:17:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 15134 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:17:39 -0000 Received: from law-f206.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.116) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:17:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 36066 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 22:17:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409221712.36065.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.196.204.161 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:17:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.196.204.161] From: "michael waldren" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Find me at Audio Impact!! I am the cute one. Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:17:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whats up yall, Wanted to put everyone on notice. Yes i will be at Audio Impact. I hope that the majority of you will do the same. if you are there and you do see me make sure to give me a big hug. i will be wearing a silver visor that reads ACTIVE, with a white collared shirt a black undershirt and some fairly big jeans. i sometimes roll them up to keep them from getting dirty too. So dont forget to support your local BASS Kru and say hi! Thanx for listening. "your everyday junglist" Mikey PS This is the second one i sent, i didnt receive the first one. So if you get two of these i am sorry. K. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:22:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18039 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:22:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18022 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:22:39 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:22:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409222614.2606.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:26:14 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:26:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: NRR: Bored? Need something to um, listen to? To: mdowling@essential.net Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh My goodness, you all should definately visit this site, its hilarious, happy friday! Jess --- "Michael D. Dowling" wrote: > Sorry, i just couldn't resist =) > http://www.pins.co.uk/upages/tracey/farts/farts.html > > > -------------------------------------------- > michael d. dowling > (Personal Email Account) > > "We've built houses for hatred, > It's time we made a place > Where people's souls may be seen and be safe. > Be careful with each other, these fragile flames > For innocence can't be lost > it just needs to be maintained...." > > (415) 239-2424 home > (888) 434-9132 pager > http://www.essential.net/vanity/ (vanity page) > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:25:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20798 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:25:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 20790 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:25:48 -0000 Received: from shell.tsoft.com (root@198.144.192.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:25:48 -0000 Received: from dand.com (hurricane.dand.com [209.133.59.242]) by shell.tsoft.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA09527 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from royal [209.133.59.246] by dand.com (FTGate 2, 1, 2, 1); Fri, 09 Apr 99 15:12:37 -0700 From: "Joshua Goldberg" To: "SF raves" Subject: New Years eve parties Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:24:17 -0700 Message-ID: <005a01be82d7$b4f1fd50$f63b85d1@royal.dand> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01BE829D.08932550" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01BE829D.08932550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SFR, does anyone out there know about any super phat parties goin on this New Years? I dont really care where in the US it is but im looking for a 48-72 hour party to hit for the new millenium. let me know. Hugs and lollipops, Josh jgoldberg@dand.com ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01BE829D.08932550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
SFR,
does=20 anyone out there know about any super phat parties goin on this New = Years? I=20 dont really care where in the US it is but im looking for a 48-72 = hour =20 party to hit for the new millenium. let me know.
Hugs=20 and lollipops,
Josh
jgoldberg@dand.com
 
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6. The numeric keypad only goes up to six.

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------=_NextPart_000_0062_01BE829D.501BAD20-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:51:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8864 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:50:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 8699 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:50:47 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:50:47 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id PAA15737; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:50:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904092250.PAA15737@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: New Years eve parties To: jgoldberg@dand.com (Joshua Goldberg) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <005a01be82d7$b4f1fd50$f63b85d1@royal.dand> from "Joshua Goldberg" at Apr 9, 99 03:24:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if you are into psy-trance... the place to be is South Africa: http://www.southafrica2000.com/ -troy > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01BE829D.08932550 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > SFR, > does anyone out there know about any super phat parties goin on this New > Years? I dont really care where in the US it is but im looking for a 48-72 > hour party to hit for the new millenium. let me know. > Hugs and lollipops, > Josh > jgoldberg@dand.com > > > ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01BE829D.08932550 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > >
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> > ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01BE829D.08932550-- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:56:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13315 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:56:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 13306 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:56:18 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:56:18 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vLUOa23591 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:53:53 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <38453699.243fdf01@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:53:53 EDT Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i saw a thing on 20/20 and they did a study that proved that it was much more dangerous to drive tired than drunk(not that i am encouraging drunk driving, both ar a bad idea). they two guys who was driving simulated cars(kinda like those racing games at arcades)-one who was drunk, and one who was extremely tired. it was amazing how much worse the tired guy did. again, i am NOT saying driving drunk is ok, merely that both are incredibly dangerous. remembre to party safe and always think. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 22:58:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15112 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 22:58:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 15086 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 22:58:49 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 22:58:49 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3ANa019260 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:56:43 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:56:43 EDT Subject: !Go see the movie the see Go! To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WOW!! hehe ok.. I'm saving you all the trouble of going to the movies all skeptical about where your $4-8 is going. OK>> GO see this movie. It was incredibly well done. And it doesn't portray the rave scene in a bad light at all. But then maybe because it's not about the drug scene. It's done in Quentin T. Style where you get to see some scenes played over and out of sequence until the entire storyline falls into place. A lot of ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT stuff was going on.. it was focused a lot on drug dealing, and young people getting into tight scrapes. I won't tell you the plot (go see it!) but it fits together really well. And whoever said the soundtrack wasn't techno.. don't worry.. there's plenty of electronic music in the actual movie. All the rave footage (except for the scenes with actors in them) was filmed at Oracle. but Even I would have wanted to go to the party in the movie.. it looked like a nice little UG in an airplane hanger. yum yum. What's with using fatboyslim trax in movies lately?? Ok.. well I don't know what else to say except everyone gets what's coming to them and I was kind of shocked by some of the stuff in the movie. KARMA. Big brother is out there and if anyone knows anything about tantric yoga there's a joke about it. Alrite.. there you go.. now everyone go see it! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:00:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17069 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:00:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 17058 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:00:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 92175 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 23:00:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409230008.92174.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.78 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:00:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.78] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: CONGRATS ON DISCOVERY!!!!!! Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:00:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i had to go to school. yuckie!!! unfortunately, i'm not on spring break like everyone else. :( plus, on the way back into the city, we got a flat tire on the golden gate bridge. but i don't care, it was all worth it! love LuSh SnOOpiE ;P >From: Jeremy Bispo >Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org >To: LuSh SnOOpiE , sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: CONGRATS ON DISCOVERY!!!!!! >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:09:30 -0700 (PDT) > > >I second that...it was definately a fun night. Tooo >bad I had to work this morning. =)jeremy > > >=== >Jeremy B. Bispo >Member Support Specialist >Cybergold, Inc. >2921 Adeline >Berkeley CA 94703 >510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > >---LuSh SnOOpiE wrote: >> >> i just wanna congradulate raoul and greg for >putting on such a bomb >> ass party last night in santa rosa. discovery was >where the party >> was definetely at. i was so happy to see so many >kids show up to >> support. congrats also go out to all the djs that >played phat sets, >> and all the kids that got up there to have some >fun! i know that i >> had tons of fun!!!!!!!!! >> >> good job you guys! >> >> love >> the one and only LuSh SnOOpiE ;P >> >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit >http://www.msn.com >> > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:03:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20703 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:03:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 20666 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:03:34 -0000 Received: from web709.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:03:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409230520.17929.rocketmail@web709.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.30] by web709.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:05:20 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:05:20 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: New Years eve parties To: Joshua Goldberg , SF raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it looks like the stompy dig in will be in hawaii for new years eve/day. --- Joshua Goldberg wrote: > SFR, > does anyone out there know about any super phat > parties goin on this New > Years? I dont really care where in the US it is but > im looking for a 48-72 > hour party to hit for the new millenium. let me > know. > Hugs and lollipops, > Josh > jgoldberg@dand.com > >
SFR,
does anyone out there know about any super phat parties goin on this New Years? I dont really care where in the US it is but im looking for a 48-72 hour  party to hit for the new millenium. let me know.
Hugs and lollipops,
Josh
 
From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:04:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21463 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:04:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 21453 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:04:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.43) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:04:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 466 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 23:03:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409230348.465.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.78 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:03:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.78] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Discovery Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:03:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk eric brown was too sick to spin. :( i'm glad that you had a good time last night. i think that we definetely exceeded the maximum person capacity. yea yeah! love LuSh SnOOpiE ;P >From: swati shah >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Discovery >Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:44:13 -0700 > >I had a really good time at Discovery last night, despite being pushed and >shoved every 37 seconds. I'd just like to remind people not to step on the >little short people who you might have overlooked. they are there, and it >hurts when you step on them. > > >One more thing...did anyone else catch the bombass tune Mars and Mystr-e >spun? Inspector Gadget????? It was so incredible. Took me a little while to >recognize it. > >The music was awesome, the location was totally chill and well ventilated. >One question though...wasn't Erik Brown supposed to spin? > >luv, >Swati Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:08:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24242 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:08:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24229 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:08:35 -0000 Received: from web209.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.109) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:08:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409231203.5372.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.86] by web209.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:12:03 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:12:03 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! To: Bbong , Wayne Radinsky Cc: SFRaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Y'see, that's what happens when I'm supposed to be sleeping, and I'm posting to SFR instead. When I'm tired I make no sense. I was referring to *DNA* and *V/SF* as having losing their liquor/cabaret licence. My bad for not making that clear enough...sorry to confuse everyone. Wayne's post is right below mine, but it's so short it is easy to get it lost in the jumble of >>'s and stuff. sorry, Michael o)-< --- Bbong wrote: > HuH? Club ecco is in San Jose.. not SF there was > never a cabaret license > to loose! > > > bbong > > On 4/8/99 11:08 PM The Red Stickman wrote: > > >not gone, but lost their liquor licence, and > cabaret > >licence as well. the cabaret licence allows the > club > >to go later than 2AM. after losing the liquor > >licence, the club can not get another cabaret > licence, > >cause SF isn't issuing anymore, from what i > >understand. > > > >losing a liquor licence and shutting down is kinda > >like the death of a club in a way. and losing the > >cabaret licence pretty much turns the club into a > big > >giant bar... > > > >seeya, > >mkd > >o)-< > > > >--- Wayne Radinsky wrote: > >> > >> Huh? What, Michael? V/SF and DNA Lounge are > gone? > >> ---------- > >> >From: The Red Stickman > >> >To: Bbong ,Beetle > >> Juice > >> , SFRaves > >> > >> >Subject: Re: club ecco and techno, ya right! > >> >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:28:52 -0700 (PDT) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >--- Bbong wrote: > >> >> On 4/8/99 11:45 AM Beetle Juice wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Does anyone know when club ECHO spins techno? > If > >> >> they do at all? > >> >> >Thanks for help. > >> >> > >> >> NEVER... I should have added that point to my > >> >> previous bashing of that > >> >> place! I don't think club ecco will make it > into > >> the > >> >> next millennium... > >> >> > >> >> bb > >> >> > >> >Although the clientelle of Ecco leaves much to > be > >> >desired, it is one of the only spots in SJ to > offer > >> up > >> >some real nice talent...any club that Jerry > Bonham > >> >spun at definitely had something special going > for > >> it, > >> >IMO. > >> > > >> >If you don't like Ecco for the people who > frequent > >> it, > >> >then don't go, and be happy that those people > are > >> not > >> >choosing to go to our parties instead. For > >> example, I > >> >really dislike the atmosphere in Sound Factory, > but > >> it > >> >does have it's place. If Sound Factory wasn't > >> open, > >> >then all those booty-hoppers would soon find > their > >> way > >> >over to 1015. > >> > > >> >1015 *has* gotten more meat-markety, BTW. Blame > >> the > >> >loft owners in SF who ultimately were > responsible > >> for > >> >the shut down of V/SF and the DNA Lounge; no > more > >> >places to drink at and pick up on each other. > 1015 > >> is > >> >the last bastion of the sleazy drunken meat > market > >> >crotch grinders. > >> > > >> >Less cheesy venues means more cheesy people > coming > >> to > >> >the spots where we like to hang out. I for one > >> feel > >> >that Ecco has it's own special place in our > dance > >> >community, and hope it survives to take some of > the > >> >sleazy cheese off of our hands. > >> > > >> >Michael > >> >o)-< > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > >> http://www.msn.com > >> > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:13:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27850 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:13:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 27835 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:13:05 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:13:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409231306.22282.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.210] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:13:06 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:13:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Discovery To: swati shah , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am sorry to hear that you got stepped on. I am very tall, so sometimes when I am in a big crowd, the little short people grab onto me like I am a pole or something so that they do not fall down. I hope you did not get hurt. You could always close your eyes when you dance, and start swinging your arms around wildly. Usually when I have seen people doing that, it doesn't matter how tall or small they are, everyone gets out of the way. love,Julie --- swati shah wrote: > I had a really good time at Discovery last night, > despite being pushed and > shoved every 37 seconds. I'd just like to remind > people not to step on the > little short people who you might have overlooked. > they are there, and it > hurts when you step on them. > > > One more thing...did anyone else catch the bombass > tune Mars and Mystr-e > spun? Inspector Gadget????? It was so incredible. > Took me a little while to > recognize it. > > The music was awesome, the location was totally > chill and well ventilated. > One question though...wasn't Erik Brown supposed to > spin? > > luv, > Swati > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:13:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28327 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:13:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28189 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:13:15 -0000 Received: from web702.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.22) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:13:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409231820.2682.rocketmail@web702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.30] by web702.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:18:20 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:18:20 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: "Welcome to hell Laura" To: Paul*E*Wog , SFRaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what kind of fucking attitude is that ? --- Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > P.S. Welcome to hell, Lara > <3*Muah!!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:22:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4895 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:22:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 4878 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:22:39 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:22:39 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vEDOa20578 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:20:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:20:13 EDT Subject: Re: "Welcome to hell Laura" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Paul E Wog is back and starting flames already. Aaaaaaahahahahaha. This is going to be fun. For people who arent familiar with Paul E Wogs posts, dont take things so seriously. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:25:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7014 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:25:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 7003 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:25:27 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:25:27 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vMDPa17882 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: <190d3c2b.243fe642@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:24:50 EDT Subject: B.S.P Bryan Lee in L.A. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BryanLee21@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Kids, this note if for anyone interested that will be in LA on April 30th. Im playing a party there for Sporty and friends. Its Christopher Lawrence's record release party and it should be a lot of fun. Peace Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:26:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7862 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:26:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 7852 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:26:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.46) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:26:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 8047 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 23:26:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409232616.8046.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.133 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:26:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.133] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: New Years eve parties Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:26:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk do you know what island this is going to be on? probably maui, huh? love LuSh SnOOpiE >From: mike bolger >To: Joshua Goldberg , SF raves >Subject: Re: New Years eve parties >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:05:20 -0700 (PDT) > >it looks like the stompy dig in will be in hawaii for new years >eve/day. > >--- Joshua Goldberg wrote: >> SFR, >> does anyone out there know about any super phat >> parties goin on this New >> Years? I dont really care where in the US it is but >> im looking for a 48-72 >> hour party to hit for the new millenium. let me >> know. >> Hugs and lollipops, >> Josh >> jgoldberg@dand.com >> >> >
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> > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:27:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9854 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:27:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 9843 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:27:43 -0000 Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:27:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409232831.27691.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.86] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:28:31 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:28:31 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: 1015 Folsom To: da'Wolf , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- da'Wolf wrote: > I'm, 6-4" and I guess I am the perfect size for > people of all heights to prove themselves > against...but the way I handle it is with "love > kills" approach...that means I apologize and throw > the best vibes possible...the worst thing that has > happened is the guy shoves me and I ignore his > ignorance...thats all us ravers can do...ignorance > is bliss for most of them I suppose... that's pretty much what I do, just apologize profusely, and then when he gets in my face, I just walk away. It's never worth it. The crowded room does have some advantages for me: I'm 5'7" and fairly skinny, and I can just slip into the crowd, wiggle my way thru and virtually disappear. And the big guy who wants to punch me cant get thru cuz he's so big! heh. seeya, mikel o)-< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:33:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15209 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:33:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 14978 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:33:04 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:33:04 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Fri Apr 9 16:32:17 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:32:17 -0800 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: NRR: free stuff X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SO I was really bored @work and started making up URL's off the top of my head and came across: http://www.free.com 1)free stuff 2)contests get/win ALL SORTS of crazy free stuff. don't enter too much or you guys will decrease my chances of winning :) enjoy, ben Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:41:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19480 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:40:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 19431 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:40:47 -0000 Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:40:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409233859.10471.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.210] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:38:59 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:38:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: re: did someone say first party? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi, there! Thank you for sharing all of your lovely stories with me. If you have not heard from me yet, that is because I am busy reading them. If you did not respond to this post yet, I hope you will consider writing about your first party experience and sharing it with me and the list. It is great fun to reminisce, isn't it? love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:42:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20732 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:42:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 20722 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:42:51 -0000 Received: from web208.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:42:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409234306.15064.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.210] by web208.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:43:06 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:43:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? To: MoonChyld1@aol.com, ejthadj@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay.love,Julie --- MoonChyld1@aol.com wrote: > well, we just did this same thread a few months > back, so if u are interested, > maybe go back and read the archives.... personally, > i'm too tired at the > moment to type out my story....again =) > > love and hugs and kisses, > tina > > In a message dated 4/8/99 9:41:34 PM Pacific > Daylight Time, eeelips@yahoo.com > writes: > > << > Thank you so much, I'll be sure to check it > out.love,Julie p.s. for the > rest of you guys, I am not getting very many > responses yet for this. I > know that you might be busy, but I am genuinely > curious to see where > everyone is coming from, so please consider writing > briefly about your > first rave experience, or at least ponder it. If > you can swear at me, > flirt with me, > or feel outraged with me because I am different > from you or because I > practice safe sex, then it is also possible for you > to simplify and > talk about your first party. Was it really that > seedy? Come on!! And > please post it for everyone else to see too. Sorry, > Eric B. that I am > taking your time up with a primarily general post > here. Love, love, > love....love is all you need. >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:49:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23208 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:49:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23199 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:49:12 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:49:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409234913.27502.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.210] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:49:13 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You are a very good writer. I have never been to Wales before. It sounds lovely. Do you live in California now? Do you miss your family? love,Julie --- JUNGurlE@aol.com wrote: > Where should I begin.. my first party in America or > back when I was 12 being > dragged by my cousin down to a party in some damp > open field in the middle > of what was called summer (although the temperatures > would relfect something > around 65 degrees HIGHS!) in GB? okay I'll just > start from the VERY > begining... it was an unusually warm summer for > Rhonddha and my older cousin > (then 19) heard about these parties that went all > night, long after clubs > would close. He wouldn't shut up about them is all > I remembered, (I lived > with him at the time) Finally he found out about > one happening about an hour > or so outside of the town we lived in and had > decided to take me along with > him. We drove all day through fields after fields > (because that's all there > really is in Wales) trying to find out where it > was... untill we finally got > to the party.. or what was supposed to be a party. I > was only 12, and didn't > really want to go but we were close-- I would > consider him more of a brother > than my real brother, growing up with him from the > age of 2 on... I remember > getting out of the auto and walking in the damp > grass for what seemed like an > eternity. The moist dew making the bottom of my > troussers all wet and making > me cold. I kept complaining but I knew how much he > had wanted to be there so > I tried to enjoy myself. When we finally were in > ear shot of the music I > realized this was going to be like nothing I had > ever experienced before. I > saw a mass of people dancing in the strangest ways. > I felt like I had > stepped into another world and that night, being > just a baby and all, I found > a new meaning and grew up years beyond my peers. I > danced for some 4 hours, > and talked to some lads probably twice my age about > subjects which would > normally have been beyond my recongnition. At that > moment though, I felt > this overwhelming understanding of everything around > me. I had fallen in love > with a movement, an idea, a new way of life and i > was changed forever. My > cousin Marc and I became closer than we had ever > been, or have ever been > since. I felt as if I was in his mind! It was some > pretty trippy stuff I > admitt, especially for only being 12, still wearing > uniforms to grammer > school, getting caught for smoking out behind the > church on lunch. ( :o) > memories are great!) That was the summer of 1990... > a huge turning point in > my life. > > <3 amber r > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:55:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26835 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:55:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 26701 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:55:34 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:55:34 -0000 Received: from Lynsoooo@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vDCCa01909 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:54:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Lynsoooo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:54:15 EDT Subject: Re: Re: New Years eve parties To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: Lynsoooo@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Maui sucks! I was there last New Years and went to a club / bar thingy in Lahaina and there were only 5 people!!!!! It's a retirment community. Waikiki is the place to go! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 09 23:56:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28567 invoked by uid 6000); 9 Apr 1999 23:56:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 28535 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 23:56:40 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 23:56:40 -0000 Received: from BluSnday@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rWSUa20584; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:38:38 -0400 (EDT) From: BluSnday@aol.com Message-ID: <40ec0041.243fe97e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:38:38 EDT Subject: Re: 1015 Folsom To: red_stickman@yahoo.com, dawolf@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BluSnday@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > The crowded room does have some advantages for me: > I'm 5'7" and fairly skinny, and I can just slip into > the crowd, wiggle my way thru and virtually disappear. > And the big guy who wants to punch me cant get thru > cuz he's so big! heh. ***That's true... being smaller has it's advantages. Only problem is that people don't usually see you until they've already stepped on you =P 1015 is really bad about that! And if you do find yourself in a tight situation, you quickly discover the other advantage of being small: the lower you are to the ground, the better chance you have of getting a good shot in =) *steph* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 00:25:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13562 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 00:25:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 13554 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 00:25:02 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 00:25:02 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.40] (madmax-40.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.40]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA15334 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <19990408225447.14827.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:15:55 -0700 To: SFRaves From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 8:02 PM -0400 4/8/99, Samuel Luckenbill wrote: >I'm going to second that, gottsi is good, .... >So lesson learned: don't get your tragus pierced >if it's too small.. :) And, because most of us don't know when our tragi are too small to pierce, or our bellybuttons the wrong shape, it's best, as Samual suggests, to just go to Gottsi. They have the knowledge to determine if a piercing is right for you, and the integrity to tell you when it isn't. I'm not just saying this, because Gottsi are friends of mine. Gottsi have: better piercing technics, better aftercare instructions, better jewlery, better prices. Remember folks poorly done piercings are more painful, leave ugly scars, look funny because they're not placed properly, and can cause disease. So go to reputable shops only. Hint: if they sell drug paraphernalia, be afraid. Oh yeah: G=F5tts=ED are at: 6601 Telegraph on the Oakland Berkeley border 510.652.2897 Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 00:32:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16500 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 00:32:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 16488 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 00:32:44 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 00:32:44 -0000 Received: from Dolpcandy@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vBAKa16615 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:31:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Dolpcandy@aol.com Message-ID: <80fb2c0a.243ff5cd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:31:09 EDT Subject: Re:Did somebody say first rave experience? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Dolpcandy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My first rave experience, was just recently (love affair) I am only 15. And I am so happy that Tami took me and showed me what raves are all about. I LOVE THEM SO MUCH! =) My parents dont know that I go to raves, so I dont get to go as much as I want. =*( I cant say I go to the movies every weekend. Some other crazy stuff happened but I am afraid I cant post that. Sorry. I am soooooooooooooooo thankful, to all the nice people that saved me. =) without them who knows where I would be right now. I want to thank each individual raver out there. Because everyone is so friendly and caring. Thats about it. love ~Bianca~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 00:51:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21285 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 00:51:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21274 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 00:51:03 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 00:51:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id RAA13261 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:46:57 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:46:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 1015 Folsom, size counts. In-Reply-To: <19990409232831.27691.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is what I like to call ORIGINAL NINJUH BIZZNESS, Michael. =D See you in the next SFR message. 10-4, duh, max On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, The Red Stickman wrote: > > The crowded room does have some advantages for me: > I'm 5'7" and fairly skinny, and I can just slip into > the crowd, wiggle my way thru and virtually disappear. > And the big guy who wants to punch me cant get thru > cuz he's so big! heh. > > seeya, > mikel > o)-< > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 00:51:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21985 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 00:51:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 21875 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 00:51:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 00:51:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 36088 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 1999 00:50:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990410005050.36087.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.133 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:50:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.133] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: Lynsoooo@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: New Years eve parties Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:50:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, but once i flew to maui for this rave and i had a lot of fun. the parties there are hella different from the ones on oahu. hawaii still has a long way to go with their rave scene. i lived in hawaii my whole life, until i moved here in august last year. i went to a lot of raves back home, and they don't even compare to raves here. they're not even in the same category. don't get me wrong, i love the parties in hawaii, but that's all they are: parties! we consider big parties to have about 200-300 people. it's kinda nice because everyone knows everyone, but that's also a problem, because you never get to know many new people. i just gotta say that sf really knows how to party it up!!! i'm so glad i moved here! love LuSh SnOOpiE >From: Lynsoooo@aol.com >Reply-To: Lynsoooo@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Re: New Years eve parties >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:54:15 EDT > >Maui sucks! I was there last New Years and went to a club / bar thingy in >Lahaina and there were only 5 people!!!!! > >It's a retirment community. > >Waikiki is the place to go! > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 00:52:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23842 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 00:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23832 invoked by uid 233); 10 Apr 1999 00:52:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 25282 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:51:35 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:51:35 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Fri Apr 9 09:51:01 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:51:01 -0800 From: "Joaqman" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: defending Ecco X-Sender-Ip: 206.170.3.34 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dear frenz, i put club Ecco in the same category as 1015 folsom. for the most part it is annoying, but if you go on the right nights, say chemistry or benefits like altruism, you will have a blast!!! the only thing that 1015 has that Ecco doesn't is Come-Unity. Now i know that's a hell of a lot, but Ecco still has great talent from all over the bay. Plus we here in the e. bay don't get to see so. bay talent that often so its a treat. i've beemn promoting really hard the last 6+ months so i have been to the best and worst spots. i agree with what michael, kurt and marty said about 1015 and this holds true for Ecco for me, you have to be selective. choose your partys well. you'll never catch me @ 1015 when it's someone like paul oakenfold headlining. i just can't deal with the mass of humans crowding here and there (that's just me). and wait until you believe you have earned the right to party. try not to go out just b/c your friends want to go out. try to go out only when you can't stop tapping you feet or bobbin' your head. you'll have a better chance of enjoying yourself. don't forget to really rest and stretch and watch your diet in between parties. i guess now that i'm almost 30 i think i know it all. you know what, when i was 18 my mom said i thought i knew it all. joaqman loves those that love themselves and the other ones too. --- page me @ 510-330-1101 Riddle: How many shingles does it take to cover a dog house in the winter? Answer: Green, because snakes don't have arm pits? HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 00:59:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27678 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 00:59:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 27668 invoked by uid 233); 10 Apr 1999 00:59:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 17160 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 20:05:54 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 20:05:54 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-26.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.26]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA01305 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990409183832.006b17b4@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:38:32 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: NRR but List related... Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think someone off the list has subscribed me to another list..so whoever did it and I don't know who and I don't care to know. Unsubscribe me...I hate getting msg's like this: FROM: SSLENET/PAB281A/POSTMASTER TO: Nuku DATE: 04-09-99 TIME: 12:59 SUBJECT: Mail failure Etc etc etc...2nd time today...and don't even get smart wit me on this ben :P Cuz this was after I sent this to the sfrlist and no one else.. Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 00:59:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28222 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 00:59:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 28000 invoked by uid 233); 10 Apr 1999 00:59:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 17316 invoked by uid 228); 9 Apr 1999 20:06:26 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:06:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org cc: karina@hyperreal.org Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar for 4/09/99 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! I hope you have a wonderful weekend. May the force be with you, always. ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== The SFR Calendar http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 9th - Special Net Event: LIVE Interactive BROADCAST / CHAT Talkspot. Rohypnol, GHB and GBL...A look at the so-called date rape drugs They are not only used by rapists but as recreational drugs and even dietaids! The drugs produce a sedative effect, amnesia, muscle relaxation and slowing of psychomotor responses. Victims of the "so-called" date rape drugs are surfacing around the country. Legislation to ban the drugs is pending in many states. The mother of a San Diego Rave organizer who died from will join us live...Join TalkSpot News for a LIVE in-depth look at designer drugs...at www.talkspot.com LIVE chat during the program. 11:00am-12:00PST, . Friday, April 9th - WICKED Markie, Jeno, Thomas, Garth. 11pm-7am, 21+, $15. 177 Townsend, SF. Saturday, April 10th - NXN Productions presents Amazon Jungle Patio-, PRESHA (PBS, Compound Records, SF), STOMPA (PBS, IN THA MIX, Sac.), TURTLE (Mixology, Threshold Vibe, Santa Rosa), MANIC ONE (Chico), MANTIS (Barleycorn Crew, Chico), BAD ROK (SF), Mushroom-, TYSON HOWELL (420 kidz, Nodel Records, Chicago), PAUCUS (420 kidz, Sun Daze, SF), FLASH (Sac.), WEDGE (Chico), SONAR (Chico), JON ECON (Paradise). THE BRICKWORKS CHICO CA. 9pm-6am, All ages, $12. TICKETS $ 6.00 with NXN Laminates. $10.00 Presale @Neo Retro tro 112 w 2nd st. Chico. Chico. 530.893.2005 Saturday, April 10th - Vertigo Free Daytime Outdoor Positive P and B-Love from Open, Mind and J-Dog from Stir-Fri-Day, Jungle seshinz from, Gabe Real, Push, Mike Bee. With a little help from Mama Nature, the summer season gets an early kickoff with our own style of a California tradition. Very proudly representing SF Drum N Bass, Vertigo returns to it's roots of dope beats, tasty eats and sandy feet. May we all have a lovely summer! What better way to kick it off? Details on the Vertigo infoline. Remember: R E S P E C T! Email Noon-???, . 415.339.8688 Saturday, April 10th - B.A.S.S. Kru, GARNET, Sugar Shack Unltd. presents AUDIO IMPACT ....a night of serious jungle bizness... PHANTOM 45 (Chicago), FURY (Denver), FLUX + RINSE, STAR EYES, ZACHARIA (Seattle), MC JAMALSKI (NYC). http://www.garnetevents.com 415.332.5800x247 415.436.0735 Saturday, April 10th - Trance & Jungle Factory presents ********Tickle 3********* (The Big One!!!) Hope your dancing batteries are charged Thomas Trouble (Trance & Jungle Factory, Skills, Vorg/SF), Demigod (System Records/LA/ID&T), Dutch (InnerEye/SF), Greg Sandler (Harmonics), Mystre (F8/SF), Mars (F8/SF), DJ Buddy (Las Vegas), Dyloot (Skills), Tom Slik (Trance & Jungle Factory/Skills), Dj D (T & J Factory/SF), Joaqman (SF), Dj Praxxis (SF), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Moshe (Pangea), DJ Praxis, JOAQMan (T & j Factory). More to be announced. 415.248.2669 Saturday, April 10th - Oblivion Guest DJ for the night will be DJ Tim (Santa Cruz), resident DJ Keith O'Reilly.. Due to continued success, OBLIVION will now take place on the second Saturday of every month. For more info please email OblivianSF@hotmail.com For more information, please call: 21+, $5. Free before 10pm. 579 Howard, SF. 415.339.8784 Saturday, April 10th - Lambda Nu presents The Electronic Sampler From Southern California: , Kit, Warhol, Claude, Koskela, Uncle Noah, From the Bay Area, Daniel Joseph, Hannibal Selecta, Hi Bias, Delinquent, Jamie James. Live: Jekyll and Hyde. Sound by Catapult Productions. Free, donations accepted. Outdoor, lake- side event in the South Bay. 2:30pm-8:00pm, Free. south bay. http://www.superbean.com 650.286.7599 Thursday, April 15th - north beach premier odyssey sound featuring PROTOLAB (live d'n'b from sf), sebsi and mohsen (ambient, jazztronica, triangle). Beer and well drink specials all night. 9pm- $3. 1353 grant ave, SF. http://home.earthlink.net/~dpcosta/club/orbit.html Thursday, April 15th - Thee Psychic Fest-E-val Thee Crossing ov thee nexus mega trip, Jay D, Dr klinik, DJ kraft , Asian Bombox. Adjacent to (and above) 19th St BART station. it will take place at this one time venue which will probably close down after this. 8pm-4pm, . ( at door , no advance tickets ) - $5 - $7 slide fee. 1932 Telegraph Avenue, Oakland. Friday, April 16th - Full Moon John Howard, Rob Doten, DJ David Coleman, John Rodriguez , Eric Erickson, TJ. Live: SenSei. call for info http://www.SFHouse.com 415.339.8015 Friday, April 16th - exotica3 presents SLYCE The party has just begun...Convergence of music, art, media, and dance Ellen Ferrato (Sugar), Miguel "Migs" (Heavy Rotation), Laird (Release), Namico, dOM. between 1st and 2nd and between mission and howard 9pm-2am-, 21+. Rico's, 78 minna st, SF. Friday, April 16th - Conscious Session (New Moon) All Nite Session in SoMa... Jeno (Wicked), Galen (Pacific), DJ Josh (Gathering), M3 (Green Gorilla Lounge), Adnan (SF), Fabulizz (Progress). 415.273.5599 Friday, April 16th - XPOSUR presents FUTURA ORBIt (get on it) , SID LOVE(get on it) , LOUIS DETOUR (soundstation records/matrix/L.A.) , JUAN C. (XPOSUR/LOS ANGELES) , ARIS DINAMIK (XPOSUR/SOUNDSTATION RECORDS/L.A.) , OSO BIG (SOUNDSTATION RECORDS/L.A.) , BRIAN MATRIX & JOHNNY GROOVE (CD RELEASE PARTY"LET THE BASS BE LOUDER" tuff records). all night-All ages, $7. 805.637.6273 805.863.9807 800.971.7896 Friday, April 16th - Megahertz presents 66MHz Elias Smith, Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx. Lasers by UV99, Visuals by Multimedia Meltdown. 250 People Limited Capacity. Pre-sale only. $15 at F-8, T&J Factory, on-line: http://www.sfrecords.com. http://www.mhz.nu/66MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, April 17th - PSYCHOFUNKO DISCODELIC Downtempo and funky house with Laron, Tracy, Felix the Dog, Laird. Live: Spacetime Continuum. Visuals by Satsi.21+. 330 Ritch Street, SF. 415.273.1170 Saturday, April 17th - Housepitality All aboard the SOUL TRAIN ! Upstairs in the ATTIC we have a very Happy Birthday celebration for , SOLAR (Pacific) !!!!, Laron (psychofunkodiscodelic), Sean Murray (Static, Renegade Sound System), Downstairs in the INSECT LOUNGE Jungle madness from Gainseville, FLORIDA : CO3 CREW !!!, Dj Rasa & Dj Alexi and rockin' the mike MC 3DTEA, with our homey Tik Tak (Ruffneck Reality).. Email us@unitingsouls.com Located between mission & howard and 1st & 2nd. ID required. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday of the Month. 9pm-2am, . free b4 10pm. Rico's Loft, 78 Minna St, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.3493 Saturday, April 17th - Private Journey Dimentional Transfer 6 Year Anniversary!!! Jordan (Fresno) , Gavin Hardkiss (SF) , Abstract Beat Collective (Fresno) . Live: Hawke (SF) . 559.262.8100 Saturday, April 17th - Native Vision Productions presents Free Event brings you a free party to give back all of the M.A.D. LOVE you have given us SAHID (GERMANY), MARCELLUS (SF), MARKISS ANTHONY (SF), ROBBIE HARDKISS (SF. Live: PA T.B.A. . FOR MORE INFO CALL 12NOON-SUNSET , Free. 415.281.0777 Saturday, April 17th - April 18th - Treestock To be announced.. Treestock is a series of parities to replant trees in clearcut and burnt forest areas. Hundreds of trees will be planted in the shape of the World's Largest Peace Sign. The concept is similar to Burning Man, except we will be healing our planet. Saturday, April 17th - *HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL* THE TECH HOUSE TULIPS , Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recording artist, Los Angeles) , Angel Alanis (Missile Records UK, 4 Track Records, Contaminated, from Chicago) , Greg Sandler (Harmony/ Harmonics) , Dutch (Inner Eye/ Area 51), LI (Harmony/ Viberation) , MAC (Harmony/ Harmonics), THE DRUM N' DAISIES, Protolab (Live performance, SF), RE: (Live performance, Sacramento), Science (Harmony/ Viberation) , Russel G (Harmony/ Harmonics), Cimino (Harmony), THE DOWNBEAT DAFFODILS, Tha Roman (Yougoodmissy, LA) , Andy W (Live performance), J-Bot (Live performance), Jahsh (Harmony), B))merang . Presale tickets are available for $20 at the following locations: (There will be more tickets at the door). Harmonics - Santa Rosa, F-8 - SF, Housewares - SF, Daddy's - Berk, T&J Factory - Berk, Solid Grooves - San Jose, In The Mix - Sac. We encourage the celebration of your individuality at this event, by asking you to wear your most festive, funky, colorful clothing in order to create a field of beautiful wild flowers!!! http://www.harmonyproductions.com 408.486.9591 415.289.6788 Tuesday, April 20th - Renegade sound , Pacific and the Static boys present presents The sixth annual 420 party / night version 1.0 John Howard, Sean Murray, Galen, Solar, Jbird, Miles Maeda (San Diego/Chicago). For more info dial the static line 9pm-3am, 21+, $5. the cat club, 1190 folsom street, SF. 415.289.6980 Thursday, April 22nd - Funky Tekno Tribe in association with Therapy presents Foreplay ~tek-House Resident~ Jasonian (Plush, FTT, Kindness). 9pm-2pm, 21+. Hi-Fi, with all new sound!, Lombard@Fillmore, SF. http://www.funkytekno.com Thursday, April 22nd - Existential Sounds and Legion of Funk presents Salivate Music to make your mouth water Jay Zimmerman (Redmelon Records). Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno Email (2nd and 4th Thursday of every month). Free before 10pm. 9:00pm -2am, 21+, $3. Il Pirata , 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 Friday, April 23rd - S.P.A.Z. and S.P.A.C.E. presents Manifest Eris harnessing the power of chaos! dj Flux (B.A.S.S. kru), Arachne Konsept w/MC Resista, Cthuluhoop, more dj's TBA, Last Minute Midnight Cirkus vs. Fireflies. all night tekno-drum and bass-hardtek-speedbass-?? underground East Bay warehouse dusk-dawn, All ages, $5. http://www.hyperreal.org/~spaz 1.800.486.6862 415.281.8407 Friday, April 23rd - FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS presents DIGITAL DREAMS ROOM ONE, CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE ,LA, TAJ (SF), SIMON APEX (SSU), DJ ROCKIT (SAC), STILLWIND (SF), DRE (SAC), B-SIDE (SAC), STOMPA, (SAC), RIF (SAC), ROOM TWO - HARMONY SHOWCASE, GREG SANDLER, ERIK BROWN, ANDY W, LEE, ETHAN, LOGIK, J.BOT, URN, MAC. MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED. PRE-SALE TICKETS (LIMITED) $15.00, $20.00 @ THE DOOR ON THE NIGHT OF THE EVENT. AVAILABLE @ THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS DIMPLE RECORDS, SAC (916) 781-2800, (916) 983-2600, (916) 925-2600 IMAGINE MUSIC, SAC (916) 971-1188 SUBSONIC UNDERGROUND (OPENED MARCH 2),SAC (916) 441-2775 SOLID GROOVES , SAN JOSE (408) 999-2059 HOUSE WARES, SF (415) 252-1440 F-8, SF (415) 221-4142 DADDY'S RECORDS , BERKLEY (510) 665-1653 TRANCE & JUNGLE FACTORY, BERKLEY (510) 704-9876 HARMONICS, SANTA ROSA ((707) 571-8747 ROCK ON, FAIRFIELD (707) 571-8747 MOTION MUSIC, MODESTO (209) 577-6965 P.S JUNE 5, 1999 FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS BASS INVADERS II, MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED. 916.484.5700 800.204.3986 Friday, April 23rd - Lightseed Collective presents Lightseed Family Gathering More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Friday, April 23rd - Squeeze Adnan , Ray , Nathan . In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12am -4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. Friday, April 23rd - 2C-Beats presents Housesubversion Much more TBA. A 2-floor all-night house party. Indoor/Outdoor East Bay Location. Saturday, April 24th - Uniting Souls presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of SF's underground Special guests: E.T.I. (Oboro Records), Daum (Freaky Chakra), Jason Henry (Uniting Souls/Legion of Funk), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls/Chemistry).. Join us on the dancefloor for one incredible night of music! Between 3rd & 4th off Townsend. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. 330 Ritch, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, April 24th - Phunky Phonography Productions presents >>))*All Play Together*((<< Spesh (Looq Records), Mystre (F8), Mars (F8), Dutch (Inner Eye), Dyloot (Skills, MHz, HK), Tom Slik (Skills, T&J Factory), Tracer, Radley Marx (MHz, Elemental), Telene (Phunky Phonography), nman (Biofonik, Silverpearl), Quickstep& Jair (PhunkyPhonography), Majere (Phunky Phonography). Due to the unfortunate closing of Maritime Hall we were forced to downscale the number of DJs and people we can have at our new location. We appologize to the DJs and the ravers who wanted to see them. Buy your presale tickets as soon as possible for this small event. Beautiful location in East Bay that is rarely used. Have a fun, safe, sunny spring break! http://www2.ucsc.edu/~jarman 415.289.6553 Saturday, April 24th - cybertropic comm./5 families presents dive Urgency: the TRANCE affliction trance-Inducers, KEITH E. (SOLID GROOVES), Skyscraper (SO. BAY TRANCE CO-OP), DIVERSION (V.O.R.G), gEoff ;-) (Stargaze Family), Micron (Viberation), B))MERANG FIDGET, ERIC SPIRE (QUEST/SILVER PEARL RECORDS), MACADIO (First Light), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance & Jungle Factory), Dr. Bubble (BLANKFACE), dj D (TRANCE & JUNGLE FACTORY), Joaqman (5 FAMILIES), JD (SYNCOPATED/L.A.). ALL AGES**FREE FRUIT**FREE JUICE**FREE SOFT DRINKS. CAN YOU DIG IT??? 21+. $10 PRE-SALE . 510.330.1101 415.339.8735 Saturday, April 24th - The Unity Vibe Tribe asks you to ask yourself, are we ALLONE DJ STEW-XMIX- FLORDIA, JERRY BONAM-SPUNDAE, DJ ROMAN-SNR-PRODUCTIONS-SEATTLE, JAZZ-E, MODA, N8-UNITY VIBE, SAHID-BERLIN, GERMANY, TROY ROBERTS-SEATTLE, VERTIGO, LSDJ-UNITY VIBE, ERIC MICHAEL-UNITY VIBE, JOSHUA JACOB, JOEY-HOUSE NATION. THIS WILL BE A PLACE CREATED BY THE UNITY VIBE TRIBE. WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL GENERATIONS CAN GATHER IN PEACEFUL UNITY TO CELEBRATE THE REVIVAL OF THE OLD SCHOOL POSITIVE DANCE VIBE THAT HAS KEPT OUR UNDERGROUND SCENE ALIVE. LIGHTING BY STIMULIGHTINGS-UV99-X-TREME 9pm-7am, . 650.361.0950 408.271.6900 Saturday, April 24th - Vertigo Backatcha one more time TBA. New locale, droppin' new science. Monthly. Local. D+B. Get your cigarette holders out and your swerve on. Details to come. Friday, April 30th - COURAGE House Music: , Mark Farina, Iz, Andy Caldwell, Sharon Buck, Ray Fales, Downtempo: , Laron, PBS, Mei-Lwun, Saga. In Honour of Christopher Scott Jewkes. A benefit for the California AIDS Ride 6, to bring AIDS awareness & hope into our communities. 9PM-2AM, 21+. $10 donation. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Friday, April 30th - Nocturnal Productions presents XOX RETURNS THREE YEAR ANNIVERSERARY TBA. A secure central bay area location more tba next week Friday, April 30th - V.O.R.G. Productions presents ***HI!*** (VORG pre-party) 2 ROOMS FILLED WITH, JERRY BONHAM (Spundae), MARS (Frequency 8), MYSTRE (Frequency 8), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory,VORG), JUSTIN HALE (Simply Cosmic), RYAN WILBER (NBCHarmonics,VORG), ERIK BROWN (RebirthHarmonics), DJ D (Trance and Jungle Factory, VORG), ATOMIC DJ (VORG, BASS Records), ALIAS (Question Mark Productions), SUPREME-C (VORG). $12. 415.750.3100 Friday, April 30th - The Colorblind Collective and Theatre Now! presents Honey AndyW , Micron, Hak, Siphon, Meadow, Jeph, Mike Wilson, NMan, Mark Clark, Joaqman, Mook . ............. More TBA Monterey Bay Location Free Fruit-Water, Free Chai Brought to you by Nub Chai. Even though this is a benefit for Theatre Now!, Tix are going to be be inexpensive so we can all spend the evening together as a cohesive family bonded by the love of music! 9pm-7am, . 408.682.3500 Saturday, May 1st - Ghostribe Krew presents Acid Breaks 3: The 2 Year Anniversary, and 5 Year Ghostribe Reunion Mayday Celebration Ruff Beats, Breaks and Jungle! DJ STRYKE (Adrenalin Records Super Remixer and Producer), DJ GHOST and FRANK NITTY (Ghostribe Krew, on 4 turntables), MISS KNIGHT (Ghostribe Krew), JOEY MAZZOLA and DAVID GARCIA (House Nation, on 4 turntables), KWASHI and KEVIN KIND (on 4 turntables, Feel Good Family), TRIPNOTIX (Beat Down), RINSE and FLUX (B.A.S.S. Kru/Compound Records) , MC JAMALSKI (Ruff Neck/Reality, NYC), HAK and SIPHON (Urban Assault), JOSHUA JACOB (027), SIDEBURN SLIM (Diverse City), SPEK and DANJA (Ghostribe Krew), EVA (Raw Atmosphere), SAUCER and the Illustrious TOM KAT (Highlanders), RASTA CUE TIP (Brick, S.F.), T-SKI (M1 Productions), TOMMY MEYER, PHIL HOWARD. Complete with the original ::: Players Inc. Chill Zone ::: Sound by Xtreme Audio & Alien Nation Crew, Visuals by I-Candy, Lasers by UV-99, Lighting and Effects by Stim-U-Lights, Environment by Ghostribe Krew. ::: Limited, Discounted $20 Pre-Sale Tickets on sale now at ::: COMPOUND RECORDS, 6 Valencia St., SF, 415-864-8309, SOLID GROOVES, 2271 The Alameda, San Jose, 408-248-6399, MIXOLOGY, 1670 Mendocino Ave., Santa Rosa, 707-526-1230, ROCK ON, 1630 N. Texas St., Fairfield, 707-422-2080, TRANCE and JUNGLE FACTORY, 2575 Telegraph Ave., Berkeley, 510-704-9876, GHOSTRIBE, 2096 Merced St., San Leandro, 510-483-9862 or buy tickets online @ http://www.sfrecords.com Location: International 9PM-6AM, . Rave Center, 633 Hegenberger Road, Oakland. http://www.ghostribe.com Saturday, May 1st - Unit-E Tribe presents ENERGIZE randell (unit-e tribe / sac), wayne (unit-e tribe / field junkies), rick preston (glasgow underground rec/ san jose), tony (the gathering / moody rec / sf), sol (togetha / sac). 10pm-. sacramento. 916.810.4879 Saturday, May 1st - Radio-V.com presents May Day is Jay Day! Tom (Koinonea), Rob Rayle (Sacred Dance Society, Koinonea) , Tim (CCC). Join the Dance For Pot Party at the Million Marijuana March and Rally! Featuring: speakers, exhibits, live music, pot song-a-thon, Dance for Pot Party and the Pot Pride Parade at 4:20pm. Fun for all! Come out to San Francisco and dance for pot! Email High noon-5pm, . Civic Center Plaza, SF. http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm 415.971.3573 Saturday, May 1st - Ghostribe presents Acid Breaks #3: The Ghostribe 5 Year Anniversary Party TBA. DJ Lineup with more info coming soon. http://www.ghostribe.com Saturday, May 1st - 420 Kidz presents Vibe Creation 2 Traxx (Chicago Soul Foundation), Justin Long (Chicago I.H.R.), Tyson Howell (Chicago 420 Kidz), Mike Dreben (Toronto Sonic Mind Record Live PA), Guido (L.A. Biohazard), Melanie (S.F. House Collective), Paucus (S.F 420 Kidz), Dj Alert (Iowa City Hoodlums U.S.A.), Mars vs. Mystre (S.F. F-8), Dyloot (S.F. skills), Happy Kid Marty vs. Happy Kid Ian (S.F. Happy Kids), Red Eyes (Chicago 420 Kidz) vs. Jeff Z (S.F. 420 Kidz), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Musik, SF/LA). 510.466.5695 415.364.1665 Sunday, May 2nd - Uniting Souls presents Sunshine Daydream... a daytime gathering "And as we let our own light shine...our presence automatically liberates others." - Nelson Mandela. TBA, 510.273.2493, Main Room: Special 4-hr set by Onionz and Joeski (NYC/Chocolate Factory), John Howard, Mark Farina (Om Records), Moses (SoundTextures), DJ Riddler (Housepitality), Adnan (Squeeze/Blue Room Nikita), Jungle Room: Arc Angel Gabe Real (PBS/Future Breaks crew), Abstract (Phunckateck), , Star Eyes (B.A.S.S. Kru), Tik-Tak (Ruffneck Reality), Miss E (Eklektic/Future Breaks FM 90.3), MC's Angel and Jamalski. Visuals by Spectrumega Media (L.A.). .2pm-2am, 21+, $15. $10 before 4 pm. 715 Harrison, SF. 415.273.5449 Wednesday, May 5th - FABULOUS FREAKY Art Show Opening A reception to meet the artists Alex Clausen and Sherry Koyama DJ Optimist spinning drum n bass.. In the Art Building at the UC Davis. Email 6pm-9pm, Free. Basement Gallery. 530.297.6163 Friday, May 7th - Torque Productions presents Progression 1)House/Breaks:, Thomas Michael (Phatt Phunk Records, Roofless Productions; LA), James Christian (Caffiene collective, Nervous, Strictly Rythem Records; NYC), Ty Tek (Teknight Records, Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident;Denver CO), Satori C (Humble Souls, M.E.S.S., Basic Entertainment, Torque, Resident; Denver, CO), Matty B (Housewares; SF), Chris K (Chicago), Seannie (Seattle), DJ Torque (Torque Resident; Denver), Drum and Bass:, Rinse (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF), Flux (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF) , Jamalski (Ruffneck Reality; N.Y.C.), Push (Future Breaks, 90.3FM; SF), Satori C (Denver, CO) , Kaya (Live techstep P.A.,Torque Resident; Connecticut), Eva (Raw Atmosphere; SF), DJ Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), Misc. B (Moist Crew; SF), Kunoichi (Moist Crew; SF). Limited Presale Tickets at $17.00 available @ Housewares, SF; Compound Records, SF; In tha Mix, Sac; Solid Grooves, San Jose. 415.345.9668 Friday, May 7th - urban_assault & KSCU presents RUN TINGS southbay junglism strong in 99 rinse (bass kru, compund records), hak (urban_assault, solid grooves), sifu (thermal recordings), siphon (urban_assault), may tag (kscu), mc jamalski (ruffneck alliance, ny). limited to 300 headz/ all ages/ presale tickets @ solid grooves early april. http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ 408.882.5064 Saturday, May 8th - Skills presents a free party in Golden Gate Park Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars, Mystre, 510.869.4601. all day, music from 1pm-6pm, free. http://www.elemental.nu/skills 415.437.4460 Saturday, May 8th - Forward Motion Productions presents SPREAD THE WORD A small family gathering with your DJs Dutch, Josh Shwab, Kwashi, Miah, The Riddler, Micron, Joe-Joe, Ric V, Jeff Taisch, Vince, , Juggernaut(live PA), plus special guests. space limited to 300 people. Leave message on voice mail for carpooling information 5pm-8am, . $5 presale tix @ Daddys(berk), In tha Mix(sac), and online at sfrecords.com . http://www.sfrecords.com/spread 415.364.1407 Saturday, May 8th - ***VORG*** 3 ROOMS FILLED WITH:, JOHN KELLY (Funky Desert Breaks * Moonshine Records LA), ASTRAL MATRIX (o.o.b.e. Music SF) , TROY ROBERTS (Global Phases Seattle) , MARS & MYSTRE (Frequency 8) , JUSTIN HALE (Simply Cosmic) , THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory * VORG), GREG SANDLER (Harmony * VORG), DYLOOT (Skills * MHZ * HK), TOM SLIK (T&J Factory * Skills), J-BOT (Harmonics), GIANNI (Spundae * Harmonics), ZORAN (VORG), DJ D (T&J Factory * VORG), RYAN WILBER (NBC * Harmonics * VORG), ERIK BROWN (NBC * Harmonics), ATOMIC DJ (VORG * BASS Records) , DIVERSION (VORG) , ARIEL-CYBANA (VORG) , MERLYN (VORG). Pre-sale @ Harmonics 707.571.8747, T&J Factory 510.704.9876, f-8 415.221.4142, Group 3 - BASS Records 510.796.3570, Solid Grooves 408.248.6399, Music CD World 650.938.7555, Mixology 707.526.1230 - MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE TBA CALL OUR 24HR INFO LINE $20. 415.750.3100 Saturday, May 8th - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL: 2nd Period Two hour three deck set by Detroit's DJ BONE, Donald Glaude, Dj Pat, Tony, Onionz, Dan Isaac, Simon, Jesse Brooks, Jason Jinx. Presale tix available @ Primal, BPM, Clear, Solid Grooves 415.436.0714 Sunday, May 9th - Pulse Main Room DJ's:, Blackstone, Ellen, Front Room DJ's:, Trouble, Bud Chism, Chip McClure. A gay tribal fest with hot go-go boys and club kid dancers. A Primal Groove party! For more information, please e-mail: primalgrve@aol.com 3pm -11pm, . 2 guests for the price of 1 ($12/per couple) b/w 3 pm - 4:30 pm w/ flyer. $12 cover after 4:30. 1015 Folsom, SF. Saturday, May 15th - CloudFactory Fashion Show. Keep your ears to the underground for more information..... This is the official date for the Cloudfactory Design Collective Fashion Show. The CFDC is throwing a fabulous multimedia extravaganza, intended to showcase the formidable breadth and depth of talent that lies within the Cloudfactory Collective. The fashion show will be held from 7-9pm. The reception/party will be held from 9pm-3am. Fully permitted San Francisco locale. 7pm-3am, . Pre-sale tickets will soon be available. Saturday, May 15th - First Light Collective presents First Light one year anniversary DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By UV99. This is a permitted Event. Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In the mix. 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763 Saturday, May 22nd - We Got The Funk Bone (Detriot), Dj Dan (SF), Charles Feelgood (MD), Onionz (NY), Tony, Simon, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Dee, The Hitmen, Jonene (Stompy), many more to be annouced. Live: ETI. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 22nd - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL: 2nd Period Dan, DJ BONE, Dj Pat, Charles Feelgood , Tony, Simon, Jesse Brooks, Onionz. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 22nd - Trance & Jungle Factory presents Trance and Jungle Factory 2 year anniversary TBA. Watching this space. Friday, May 28th - Star*burst Productions presents Star*burst Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony/Harmonics), Joe Lanzon (Bagok Tribe), Jeyson (Davis Funky Family), Dragn'fly (Epiphany), Hoth (Positive Theory). 100% fully permitted new Sacramento location. Proceeds to benefit the Sacramento Food Bank. $5 w/ a canned food item, $7 w/o. 916.815.4337 Friday, May 28th - May 31st - Lightseed Collective presents Butterfly A Lightseed Campout in praise of Julia Butterfly Hill in honor of Luna More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Saturday, May 29th - NOMAD INTERACTIVE presents ORIGIN-MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND GATHERING. MORE TBA.. 415.675.5605 510.433.9933 408.278.5553 916.554.0554 Saturday, May 29th - Clockwork Eventz presents METROPOLIS 7 Underground dance districts of diversity METRODOME:, Donald Glaude, Terry Mullan, DJ Rktech, Hipp-E,, Jeno, Tony, The ELECTRIC KINGDOM:, Charlotte The Baroness, DJ Liquid, DJ Ghost, Miss Knight, J-Boogie, Deep in the GARNET KONKRETE JUNGLE:, R.A.W. w/ MC?, Rinse & Flux w/MC Jamalski, U.F.O., Aaron V., DJ Dose, The Infamous Highlanders, FUNKYTOWN: Funky Beat's 4 yr anniversary:, Simon, DJ Doubt, DJ Matthew, Paucus, David vs.Joey Mazzola on 4, Jasen C., SECTOR 2:, Jon Williams, DRC, Chris Jackson, St. John, J-Bot, Charly Fusion, DJ Xolotyl, The Comfort, Room:, Deepfrog, Boomerang, Triad, Reggae Lounge: come hang and feel da Irie vibes inside our reggae lounge. Prepare for the awakening!!! A night of bad ass talent, mixing through the most intense beats to date!!! A night of explosive performances, that will push the boundaries of the underground mentality!!! A night that will be out of control, filled with the amazement of an interactive multimedia extravaganza. LUMATECH lighting will be throwing down the fattest lighting show that nobody has ever seen before!! The Royal Rumble: mark wayne,jk sound,xtreme audio We will also be celebrating Funky Beats 4 year anniversary!!! HIEROGLYPHICS,THE PHARCYDE. Live p.a. Sound Of Light. 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Sunday, May 30th - EUROTIKA 3 Biohazard productions-L.A..(GABE &THEE-O), F-8-S.F.(MYSTRE), ANTHONY S(THE TRIBE), D!ZZ!(Fresno). . Modesto Centre Plaza,, Modesto. 209.236.6846 415.221.4142 Saturday, June 5th - goode tyme entertainment presents AMNESIA A mixture of house and Trance A killer line up tba. Saturday, June 5th - Goode Tyme Entertainment Presents presents Amnesia. TBA. In a secured central bay area location. 3 rooms with a mixture hard house, funky progressive house, and trance. Flyers to be released on April 5 1999. 10am-6pm, . Saturday, June 5th - E.T.A. presents Monument to Eternity A Hard Trance Rising Event Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer, Dyloot, Depth, DJ D. This is a limited capacity, pre-sale only event. For more information please call our voice mail. 415.364.1803 Saturday, June 5th - The Unity Vibe Tribe presents GENERATION X Dj line up soon to be posted..... For more imformation please call: 408.271.6900 650.361.0950 Friday, June 11st - VORG presents BREATHE A very special party at a once again brand spankin', fresh, new location!!! More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, June 12nd - Silver Pearl Records presents QUEST Summer Solstice Guiding your Quest from dusk 'til dawn on 4 thumping sound systems with DJS: Jeno (Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum, LA), Barry Weaver (Funky Techno Tribe, Seattle), Astral Matrix (O.O.B.E. Music, SF), Jason Blakemore (Life Music, Aquarium, aka DJ Trance, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Donald Glaude (Funky Teckno Tribe, Seattle), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, Philadelphia), Rinse & Flux with MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru and Compound Records, SF), R.A.W. (Mictlan Recordings, LA), NMAN (Biofonik and Silver Pearl, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Incredible Ambient Chamber with:, B))merang and Triad, Many more to be announced.. As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available May 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8, San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com. http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, June 12nd - Skills invites all a smiling to A STARRY NIGHT presents ELEKTRO-TEKNO-DISKO-POPSIKLE - Summertime Flavors With very special guests from L.A., Thomas MIchael, Thee-O, Demigod, Plus all your favorite local DJ's -, Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley, Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer & Telene, Prophet, Happy Kid Marty & Happy Kid Ian.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Friday, June 18th - OPEN HOUSE presents Strictly Underground w/ your Open House Supastars:, Serendipity, Unity, Styven, Scott Bliss, Pengo, Levi, DevDawg (Roswell/McDonald Foundation), Guest DJ's:, Secret Squirrel (Lucy prod.), Evillyn (blessing us with her presence all the way from HAWAII), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Jason (Unite Prod.), Ryan Christopher, Gilad (5D), LadyJane tha' pimptress,, Aspect (I.B.S), and more TBA. For presale tickets, call the voicemail # or send an email to: openhousecrew@yahoo.com Much love to all! First come first serve. THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT!!!! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!! 225 presale tickets.. SF. 510.288.7676 Friday, June 18th - Counterpoint Productions presents Commence More TBA. Sacramento. 916.866.326 Saturday, June 19th - FREQUENCY 8 4 year Anniversary Celebration Summer Solstice Campout Weekend Stay Tuned In.. Saturday June 19th- Sunday 20th. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Special Secret Surprise Summer Solstice Celebration More information to follow. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Saturday, June 26th - The müvmental Collective presents Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Juan Atkins, DRC, Jeff Samuel, DJ Chaordic, DJ Dishboy, Sleepy C, Rinse & Flux w/ MC Jamalski, DJ Ghost, Smallz & 7UP. SF. 415.789.7366 Saturday, June 26th - Harmony More information TBA. Sunday, July 3rd - July 4th - 8TH ANNUAL FREEDOM FESTIVAL Line-up T.B.A.. Flyers out soon. 415.905.8888 Friday, July 9th - children of the sun presents Sunshine Of Your Love a summertime celebration of love, life, and happiness... 415.835.3144 Saturday, July 10th - idm tba... . http://www.elemental.nu/idm Saturday, July 10th - Forever Young Robbie Long vs. Devestate (Next Generation, UK) Happy Hardcore FIRST U.S APPEARANCE!!, SIMON APEX (Alpha Magic, UK) vs. DJ NIMH (Happy 4 Beats, Phoenix AZ), ANDY vs. B2B JOSH (Sac.), APOLLO SMILE (Forever Young, Sac.), DJ HERETIC (119 Crew, LA) vs. RIFF (Sac.) Jump up Jungle, DEMIGOD (Industrial Strength, LA) DUTCH (Happy Gabber), RON D. CORE (Freeclouds Mixinglab, LA) Terrorcore, IMIX (Navigator, Sac.) Live P.A Speed Garage, MOE (Sac.), RICKY RICARDO (Loolipop, Chico), JASON-WHO (Fuzze, Sac.), BLAKE (N.B.C), TANK (Sac.). All night, free fruit, free water, and free stuff for early birds. Please come with your open minds, smiles, and get ready to dance! *limited Presale at Subsonic Underground Record Store, Sac. 9pm-8am, $15. Sacramento. 916.603.2866 Saturday, July 10th - 6 in da mornin productions presents Ground Zero 4: Judgement Night - The Final Chapter (6AM 3 Year Anniversary) TBA. World Class dj lineup and live acts to be unveiled on Saturday, April 3rd 1999. Promoters and vendors please contact 6AM on the industry line (800) 683-4569. Except no imitations. 415.995.1940 Saturday, July 17th - TRANCE AND JUNGLE FACTORY presents Man in the Moon Reunited Thomas Trouble, Dj D, Eric Spire, Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Tom Slik. Please check back soon for a huge line-up. Capacity is limited 2000 people, so please purchase your pre-sale tickets early. 415.248.2669 Friday, July 23rd - Megahertz presents 80MHz Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/80MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, July 24th - @spire 2 years in the making... TBA. We're back... Tell a friend! More information coming soon! 415.273.5513 Saturday, July 31st - space children's juggernautfestival Cesar, Twerk, Gerg Sandler, Mars, MystrE, Noel, UFO, Dutch, Cosmic Selector X Buna, Plus Many Many More To Be Announced. Live: Miah (Live pa). 415.272.1622 Saturday, July 31st - Mytical Mayhem Productions presents Serenity Doran (Rampant Records, Hook Recordings, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony & Harmonics, SF), Moshe (SF), MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru, SF), Gianni (Release, SF), Kevin Kind & Kwashi (FGE, SF), and many more to be announced.. Stay tuned for more information.... For information please call 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, July 31st - Full Circle Reunion - TechNique James Christian (NYC), Vicious Vic (NYC), Tony, Garth, Simon, DJ Matthew, with more T.B.A.. More info on the way! Sunday, August 1st - Existential Sounds presents... presents Birth...a celebration of Life. Garth (Wicked), Markie (Wicked), John Howard (Heavy Rotation), Chang (Simons, Gainesville, FL), Three (Hallucinations Records, Tampa, FL), Brian Busto (The Rubb, Tampa, FL), and more TBA. . An indoor/outdoor event featuring an art show. (between Potrero and Utah) Art show from 3PM-8PM. Music from 2PM-2AM. Tickets available May 31, 1999. Buses to the location: 33 Stanyan 22 Fillmore 9 San Bruno. email: avatarz@earthlink.net avatarz@earthlink.net or salivatethurs@hotmail.com Tickets available at Tweekin' Records, Housewares, Big Daddys (Berkley), and Primal Records (Berkley). Free before 4 pm, $8 in advance, $15 at the door. . IL Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415-626-2626. Saturday, August 7th - Native Vision Productions presents The Prophesee DJ LINE UP & MORE INFO TO FOLLOW IN JUNE . We Invite you to celebrate the remembrance of the Prophecy that made the world what it is today. The Prophecy goes like this: In the beginning we sat in a circle to share and remand as one with each other and Mother Earth, then the creator came down and split us up in to the red, white, yellow, and black we were all to accomplish a certain number of things then come back into the circle and share. We need to remember the root of it all. So we the people for the Earth can live. http://www.globalparty.com/nvp/ 415.281.0777 Friday, August 13rd - 3horsemen Productions presents DAISY HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAISY! Thomas Trouble, D.J. D, more T.B.A.. A party with real heart. It's Daisy's birthday and she wants to see all those happy party friends of hers there. Join us in S.F. for a Friday the 13th to remember. Party is limited to 600 pre-sale tickets only. Get your $15 pre-sales at: Harmonics(Santa Rosa), Frequency 8(San Francisco),T&J Factory(Berkeley) http://www.3horsemen.com 415.431.8632 Friday, August 13rd - August 15th - Camp Harmony TBA. All weekend camping celebration!!! More information TBA. Saturday, August 14th - CLOCKWORK EVENTZ presents STARZ TBA.. Live: Long Beach Dub All-Stars.. CLOCKWORK EVENTZ invites you to come dance under the... STARZ Superstar talent to be announced!!! This will be held at a wonderful outdoor location. Much more info in the future....... 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Saturday, August 21st - FREQUENCY 8 Cybertrance Communication Stay Tuned In.. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Saturday, August 27th - August 28th - VORG presents A SPECIAL 2-DAY LAKESIDE CAMPOUT with amazing European live-performers. More TBA. 415.750.3100 Sunday, September 4th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Megga-Buzz 4-U The 4th Annual Labor Day 3-Day Holiday Weekend PLURity Vibe-Fest! The Premier of local DJ Showcase. Buzz Line Birthday party celebration event. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Saturday, September 11st - E.T.A. presents The Red Shift Info T.B.A.. Friday, September 17th - Megahertz presents 100MHz Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith, Dyloot, Special Guests.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/100MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, September 18th - ASR 2 Year Anniversary Three room's of superb DJ's TBA..... This event will be in celebration of ASR's two year anniversary, therefore ASR will go back to it's roots, the Monterey Bay. Saturday, September 18th - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, September 25th - Harmony Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration!!! TBA. More Information TBA Saturday, October 2nd - Skills presents ??? Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley Marx, Thomas Trouble, Happy Kids Marty & Ian. more TBA. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, November 6th - Harmony TBA. More information TBA. Saturday, November 13rd - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest 2 Year Anniversary TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, November 27th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The Spirit of Giving The 3rd Annual Thanksgiving 4-day Holiday Weekend Plurity Vibe-fest Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/jungle/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Friday EARTH - Ellen Ferrato, Mouse, KJ, Damon, Jeff. Every First Friday of the month EARTH bus $1. $15. $8 before 11, Free with non-U.S. passport. . 550 Barneveld. 415.705.0585. LIFE - Life SUCKS, and then theres Friday! w/DJ Mark Farina. Cross streeet: 4th. VIP Lounge and Oyster Bar. 10pm-, 21+, $10. Big Heart City, 836 Mission. Empire - DJ Party Ben. Empire, SF's own big-beat boutique At the corner of Third. Dj Party Ben, best known for his party reports on subsonic, will spin the sounds of Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, Roni Size Reprazent, Prodigy and more. empire will also occasionally feature guest appearances from world renowned DJs. 9pm-2am., . Manhattan Lounge, 699 Market Street, SF. Martini Meltdown - Break the ice over a free Zone Vodka cocktail; chill out to the acid jazz and funk of the Spencer Murray Group; cool down in the galleries with some Impressionists in Winter. Martini Meltdown is co-sponsored by Zone Vodka, SF Station, Zebra Records, and Sunset Promotions. Across the street from SFMOMA. 5:30pm-7:30pm, $12. Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, 701 Mission Street at Third St.. 415.750.3624 Dance Spirit - Leslie Shill. every first and third Friday evenings in april. $10. Nautilus Health Club, 4th street, San Rafael. Nikita - house, techno w/DJs Simon (Resident), Jeno (Resident), Jerry Bonham (Resident), Kayar (Resident for the drum & bassment), Kaos (Resident for the drum & bassment), Flux (Resident for the drum & bassment), Rinse (Resident for the drum & bassment). Broadcast live on the net at www.1015.com. Downstairs, Sticks and Stones- provacateurs of Bass present Drum + Bass with Resident Dj Kayar 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. Free before 10:30 PM. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.com 415.267.0568 RoaM - an evening of sophisticated deep house... w/DJs Chad Mitchell, JP Soul, Dan Smith. 21+, Free. Liquid, 2925 16th St, SF. 415.289.6833 Stir-Fri-Day - happy-hour eclectic grooves served up by resident beat chefs w/DJs Jason Fluid, Shaolin, Maneesh the Twister, Plus weekly guests. 5pm-9pm, 21+. Minna St Gallery, 111 Minna St, SF. 0 415.974.1719 Bohemian Lounge - Intergalactic Funk Collages w/DJs Toph2000, rotating guests Pollywog, Manny Rosa, Charlotte the Baroness, Consuelo (Kevin). 9ish-2am, 21+, Free. the gorgeously restored McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @ 19th, SF. 415.332.5800x211 (redwine) Melon - house w/DJs Dano, JZ, guests. First Friday of each month in the blue Room @ Nikita. 11pm-5am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.redmelon.com 415.561.9215 Angel - house, tribal house, funk, modern rock, trance, progressive house, deep house, house, trip hob, soul, beats w/DJs Harry Who?, Rick Preston, Guests djs. 6 Artistic Rooms featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Soul Classics, beats Modern Rock, Trance, Progressive House, deep House and House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $10. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0328 The Davis Family Happy Hour - Local Dj Superstars, The Davis-get-down-funky-like-that-crew. Your favorite brews on tap. 3pm-7pm, 18+, Free. UCD Silo Pub, Hutchinson Drive, Davis. http://www.geocities.com/Hotsprings/Falls/2500 Launch - It'll give sump'din foer da yung;unz to doc. w/DJs Resident Djs:, BombRocker (Pure Tryb, WC), Phil-e-Cheez (Walnut Creek), Weekly guests. 18 & under (if you can pass for under 18). House, Trance, Breaks, Jungle. 7:30pm-11:00pm, 18+, Free. Walnut Creek Civic Center, Civic Park, Walnut Creek. Saturday Tek-No-Bas - techno, jungle w/DJs Stealth, Danger. Expect to hear jungle, drum and base, and techno both Detroit and European. 9pm-2am, 21+. $5 cover from 10-2. Club 1028, 1028 Geary St., SF. Pablos Sugar Shack - Pablo's Resident DJs:, John Howard, Norman Stradley, Jellybear, Miguel Migs, Rasoul, Romanowski. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. http://www.pablos.com [4.10 - Ellen Ferrato, Miss Megan] [4.17 - Jellybear, Nobel] [4.24 - Alain de Corazon, Mauricio] Other Whirled - House, Techno w/DJs Nobel, Vince, Christine, Daniel, Henrik, guests. saturday morning 5:30am-3pm, 21+. the EndUp, 6th Street @ Harrison, SF. 415.208.7665 Release - House, techno, jungle, funk, trip hop, disco w/DJs Doc Martin (1st Saturday each month), Marques Wyatt (2nd Saturday), Deep Dish (3rd Saturday), Terence Toy, Julius Papp, Behrouz, Tom Thump, Ellen Ferrato, Norm, Thomas Roberts, BB Hayes, Jason Edwards, Anthony Scott, Jerry Ross, Eric Lacy, Atom, DJ D, Gianni, special guests, Martin, Bruce, DeMilo. 10pm-9am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.sfstation.com/clubs/release.htm 415.281.0823 [4.10 - Marques Wyatt] [4.17 - Deep Dish in the main room and David Alvarado in the VIP room] [5.1 - Garth in the main room] [5.8 - Marques Wyatt and Ricky Morrison] [5.15 - Deep Dish] [5.29 - Farley & Heller begin their Mixer Magazine Tour] [6.12 - Marques Wyatt and Erick Morrillo] [6.19 - Deep Dish] [6.26 - CJ McIntosh] La Belle Epoque - 21st Century Drum n' Space w/DJs Mike Bee, Wish FM, Sea, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Dragonfly - a shiny new club w/DJ guests bi-weekly. Grand Reopening on November 14th. 2nd and 4th Fridays. 9:30pm-4am, 21+. Manhatten Lounge, 699 Market @ 3rd Street, SF. 415.313.7450 Carry On - Underground house and garage music. w/DJ Mauricio Aviles. Cross Street: Howard. 10:30pm-4am, 21+, $8. Club Asia, 201 9th St., SF. Club Universe - Funk, House, High energy dance. w/DJ Special Guests and artists every week. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. free b4 11pm. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.289.6650 FreeStyle - House and Funk w/DJs Christopher (Resident), Weekly Guests. Hosted by Mizz Ana Maronic. 21+, $5. free before 11pm. 399 9th St., SF. PUSH - Advanced house pressure. w/DJs Mouse (Liquid), Matt Valenz (Loveworks), Chris Orr, Travis. Every Saturday @ Jessy Alley, between Market and Mission. 9pm-4am, 21+, $5. Six, 60 Sixth Street, SF. Plush - house, techno, trance, funk, trip hop, soul, beats, 70's w/DJs Resident Djs:, Thayton, Johnny, Julius Papp, Gianni (San Francisco), Scott DC (San Francisco), BBHayes, Guest from the bay area and around the world. Visuals by Jose G. Museo Contempo.Martini Bar on the Patio. Featuring the best Gin and Vodkas. Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. No cover before 9:30pm. 4 Dance Areas featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Sould Classics, beats, 70's House, Trance Progressive House and Deep House. 21+, $10. Free before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0238 Tricorder - downtempo, hiphop, electro, breakbeat w/ w/DJs marlo, monkey, flint, special guests.. Teetotling our way through the classics you've never heard it before. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday Located on 24th between Mission and Valencia. 9pm-2am, 21+, $1. 1, 3336 24th Street, SF. http://www.shooby.com/tricorder Wicked Session One - drumnbass, ambient, hiphop w/DJs Sep (turntables), Stephen Kent (digeridoo), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Echo. "Wicked Session One" is the first in a series of upcoming nights in 1999 featuring acoustic and electronic musicians and DJS exploring the connection betwen dub, drum& bass, hip hop and ambient music. $6. Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, SF. Orbit - deep, funky, groovy house, techno and abstract beats for your feet w/DJs Phano, Be, d.jaymz, guests. full bar. 9:30pm-2:00am, 21+, Free. Cosmos, 2730 21st @ Bryant, SF. 415.282.9926 Flikker - house w/DJs Rotating residents, Jus' Joel, dj d-paul, lee., Plus special guests.. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. free before 10pm. Sacrifice, 800 South Van Ness @ 19th, SF. [4.10 - chuck wish - buna (e.t.i.) - jason henry (salivate)] [4.17 - dj. taj (waller street boys) - fubari - dj. patrick] [4.24 - e.b.e. - arturo (amigo) - dave chapman (gravity point)] Sunday Return of the B-Sides - Solomon. We're playing hiphop, funk, soul, and dancehall. Shattuck Bar and Grill, 2086 Allston @ shattuck, Berkeley. 510.845.7300 [4.14 - Dj Icewater] [4.21 - True Justice] [4.28 - Algebra] Spundae - House, Techno w/DJs Carlos, David Michael, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For 02.14.99 - 6 Year Anniversary Party! 5 elements giving you 11 decor by Ashley. 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.net 415.974.9389 Leopard Lounge - Acid Jazz, Funk, Soul, Pop & Live Bands. w/DJs Jerry Ross, guests. The Hi-Fi, 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 Pleasuredome - Funk, House w/DJs Neil Lewis, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Dub Mission - SF's only dub night. The best in dubs and roots every Sunday. w/DJs I, Maneesh the Twister, Vinnie, Sep (kusf/kpfa), J.Boogie ("Beatsauce"), Ludichris, other suprises. Contact 647 Valencia @ 17th, mission. http://www.geocities.com/~dub_mission/ 415.552.7788 [4.11 - DJ SEP and DJ I plus special guest violinist PISTOL PETE] [4.18 - DJs SEP & VINNIE] [4.25 - DJs J.BOOGIE and LUDICHRIS] The Cafe - house w/DJs Mathew Baker, Jay-R. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF . 415.861.3846 Liquid Sundays - Beetroot, quest djs. 21+. Liquid, 2925-16th St @ S.Van Ness, SF. up on the down low - downtempo, dub, cocktail lounge w/DJs de nada, leath, el jefe, guests. 9p-2a, 21+, Free. 65 Post St, San Jose. Milk & Honey - acid jazz, house w/DJs Mei-Lwun (Soulstice), Andy Caldwell (Soulstice), Rotating Guests: Mark Farina (mushroom jazz), Toph-One (abstract science), Felix da Dog (black diamond). Call to get listed. 10pm-???, 21+, $5. free before 10pm. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. 415.607.2290 People's Groove - house, jungle w/DJs 2 rooms of house and jungle with resident dj's, Clover, Pause, Aladin, Weekly Guest Dj's. 21+. The Usual, 400 South First Street, San Jose. 408.274.7881 Cosmic Hands - drum n bass, techno, house w/DJs chris jackson, nada, leath, tomas, jaz, hak, toby, paul leath. . This is a free party which happens on the first sunday of every month. Begins 2.07.99 9pm-2am, Free. Waves, 65 Post St, SJ. Monday Movin on Up - It's a vibratory thang w/DJs marc anthony, kevin, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. Beat Box - drum'n'bass, jungle, downtempo w/DJ Val. 9:30pm-, 21+, Free. Dalva, 3121 16th St, SF. Noc Noc - Drum'n'bass, downtempo and electronica w/DJ Mohsen. every other Monday. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. 557 Haight St, SF. 415.861.5811 Density - 98% Concentrated Urban Beats saturated with Drum & Bass Deconstructions w/DJs Al Simmons, Noel, J Boogie, Aural B (Sharpshooter), guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. the Justice League, 628 Divisadero, SF. 415.440.0409 Monday Mood Lounge - Happy Hour Downtempo to Drum and Bass w/DJs Triadessa, guests. 4pm-, 21+, Free. 406 Clement St, SF. HouseBlends - a special brew of house w/DJs a special brew of house w/DJs, Mes, Bloom, Tune, Neil, Abdul, Conrad, Friends (Weekly Rotation). Free before 10pm. Spend Happy Hour with HouseBlends (7pm-10pm). 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lounge/6072/ 925.988.7447 415.273.1308 Tuesday PHUNCKTION - Drum & Bass in motion w/DJs Residents: , Noel, JUJU, plus special guest TBA. Every tues. begining April 5th, 1999 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. THE TOP, 424 Haight St, SF. http://www.sfdb.com/ 415.789.8000 x1147 Pleasure - Residents, B.B. Hayes, Mark Silva, Matt Mau, plus weekly guest djs.. Real house music for real house heads...come into San Jose and get that SF feel. 9:30pm-2am, 21+. Free before 10:30...5 bills after.. Agenda Lounge, 399 South First Street, San Jose. Pure - house w/DJs Brian Brandon, guests. 9pm-, 18+. The Rage, 1890 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.929.0232 Static - Techno, Drum & Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental.... w/DJs Dj Sifu (Resident), Joe Rice (Justice League Sound System), Tomas (Umoja), J-Bird (Sunset/Pacific), Bre Ad, Sutekh, Re Ach, Quantum 23, Tomas, Sifu, J-Bird, Safety, Scissors, Sean Murray, guests. Static offers musical alternatives to listeners and dancers who are tired of ravers, New Age missionaries and club culture, in general. Admission is $5 (21 and over, please). Come check out the two, newly fattened sound systems. 10pm-2am, $5. The Cat's Club, 1190 Folsom St, SF. http://www.belief-systems.com/static 510-496.3444 Spark - drum'n'bass, downtempo, jazzstep w/DJs Seven, Sol, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin, SF. 415.771.3547 [4.13 - Mikebee (La Belle Epoque)] [4.20 - Arc Angel Gabereal (Future Breaks)] [4.27 - Push] [5.4 - Tom Thump (Groove Merchant, Twice as Nice)] [5.11 - Siren (Bassment, XLR8R), Ava (Housewares)] Unity Grooves - speed garage, trance & breakbeat w/DJs RickRemixx, Imix, Damien. 10pm- Free. Mulligan's Irish Pub, 3600 Lake Tahoe Blvd, South Lake Tahoe. http://listen.to/unitygrooves 916.816.5315 Spin Cycle - music of all types w/DJ guests weekly. 7:30p-midnight, All ages. CSUMB's Black Box Cabaret. http://www.cloudfactory.org/upcoming.html 831.457.7726 Tuesday nights at the Agenda - guest djs. upstairs at the agenda 21+. $5.00 after 10:30. 399 south first street, San Jose. 2-Lip Tuesdays - all female dj's playing house and assorted electronica w/DJs Just Judy, a.n.d., guests. Every 2nd and 4th Tuesdays. the afterdark, 214 Lighthouse Ave. 1.877.981.0505 Keltic Meltdown - Teckstep, Jungle, House & Trance with w/DJs Clover (People's Groove), Weekly Guests. @ the corner of Snell Avenue. Open turntables for those with skillz, get there early to sign up for a spot. 8pm-12am, All ages, Free. The Java Spot, 1095899 Santa Theresa Blvd, SJ. 408.274.7881 Jive Samba - Josh Jones, Latin Jazz All Stars (Live), Chris (Electronic flavor with drum and bass), jazzy jungle. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. 21+, $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Core - drum & bass and beyond... w/DJs jefsta, cera, weekly guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Liquid, 2925 16th Street @ S. Van Ness, SF. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~mkello01/core.html 415.790.4974 Wednesday @mosphere - Josh (The Gathering, Conscious Session), Fabulizz (Progress, Silky, Conscious Session), Seven (Spark, Hi-Rise), Jason Greer (Spark), Andre. Cross Street:Fillmore. We mix up downtempo, drum-n-bass and house. Finally, good music in the Marina! Yuppies and scenesters unite! 21+, $3. Hi-Fi Lounge, 2125 Lombard. Sol (Spark) [16.95 -] [16.95 -] [16.95 -] DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544 [4.14 - John Howard] [4.21 - Solar ] [4.28 - Rob Doten] Come Unity - House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth, and Cosmic Jason (every other month). first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $8. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 Audio Alchemy - jazz, hip hop, drum & bass, latin, futuristic beats w/DJs Groove Merchant DJs, Tom Thump, Cool Chris. 7pm-, 21+. Liquid, 2925 16th St @ So.Van Ness, SF. qoöl - a pan-techno lounge w/DJs Spesh, Gil, Hyper D, top notch guests. Visuals by Hyperdelic.qoöl is now in it's 3rd year of celebrating dj culture at happy hour. each wednesday we gather to hear no less than 4 djs pump nothing but the qoöl est techno. in 1999, we hope to bring you more of the same awesome vibe, more superskilled spinners, more visual artistry, and more great tasting beer! lastly, qoöl will remain free in 1999 - w/ qoöl card 5pm-9pm, Free. 111 Minna St, SF. http://www.looq.com/qool Audible Colors - house, jungle, techno w/DJ guests weekly. 21+, $3. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. 415.522.2343 Seance - Its a spiritual thang w/DJs local guests weekly, DJs Martel, Nabiel, Franky. Tarot readers, belly dancers, henna tattoo artists and authentic egyptian tapestries. Séance is an ethereal alternative with belly dancers, Tarot Card Readers and Henna tattoo artists. For dinner reservations call 771-3547. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy @ Polk, SF. http://sfstation.com/clubs/seance.htm 415.281.0823 Rejuvenation - house, trance, jungle, speed garage w/DJs jeffro, juni, rob. 10-2am, 21+. Doc's Nightclub, 95 Prescott St on cannery row, Monterey. Faith - house w/DJs jeff blax, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. Agenda Cellar, 17 San Salvador St, San Jose. Manga - Jungle, Downtempo w/DJs Hak, Siphon, Tetsuo, BossOne. First and last Wed of the month. 21+, Free. Scruffy Murphy's, 187 Murphy Avenue, Sunnyvale. http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault 408.882.5064 Bo Jangles - House music in every way, shape and form... w/DJs Dennis (Resident), Kendra French (Resident). 9pm-2am, 18+, $1. Bo Jangles, 7042 Folsom Blvd, Sacramento. Wednesdays at Club Ecco - house, techno, trance w/DJs Danny (Resident), Ellen Ferrato, David Harness, Blackstone, Pete Avila. Wednesday is a fantastic gay club night at Club Ecco. All the great house hits hits in the San Pedro Room. Door s open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 5pm-, 21+, $5. No cover before 9:30. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.947.1667 Dubphonik - Mr. Brown. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Thursday Pitch - The underside of SF's techno/house music scene. Agressive, live musicians and dj's. w/DJs Crunch, YT, Dutch , Residents, Corey Black, Y.T., w/ special guests:, TUESday nites in March:, Freaky Chakra, Margorie & Stuart, DRC, big Nate, THURsday nites in April:, Cristina, Dutch, Ryme, Single Cell Orch., djCrunch.. ....Duck and weave.... Donation. CLUB SACRIFICE, 19th Street & South Van Ness, SF. Velvet Shop - house, jungle, hip hop, downtempo w/DJs M3, Mark Johns, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Waves, SJ. 408.235.1556 408.235.1556 Kit Kat - house. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. the End Up, 6th & Harrison, SF. The Cafe - house w/DJ Mathew Baker. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF. 415.861.3846 Passenger - excursions to global beats and rhythms 10p-2a, 21+, Free. the Skylark Lounge, 3089 16th St. @ Valencia, SF. Unfiltered Thursdays - Norman Stradley, Sherif, Jeff Layne, Josh Schwab, Conan, Matt Fort. opening October 22nd. 21+, $10. ladies free before 12:30.. 550 Barneveld, SF. 415.289.2001 Club Faith - Hip-Hop, House, Progressive. w/DJs Blackstone (Resident), Jay-R, Ruben Mancias (Resident), Weekly Guests. Boys/Girls, mostly bi/gay. If you have a closed mind this club will leave you behind! 9:30pm-3am, 18+, $7. Free with Flyer.. City Nights, 715 Harrison St., SF. Hi-Rise - The weekly thursday night house thing. w/DJs Seven (Resident), Sol (Resident), Peterbilt (Resident), Jin (Resident), Weekly Guests. Visuals by Visual Attack.Overloading your senses with deep underground house vibes at the coolest restaurant/bar in S.F. Free before 10pm. Dinners served until 10pm. Resurrecting the deep funk we call House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. [4.15 - Hardkiss/Sunburn Recordings Night: Charlotte, Niven, Al-Jay, Wade, Scott] [4.15 - Robbie and Gavin Hardkiss, record giveaways] [4.22 - Garth (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] [4.29 - Taj (Waller St. Boys)] [5.6 - Jeno (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] Atmospheric Drum & Bass - Peregrine. 8pm-11pm, . Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St, SF. Manifesto - soul, hip hop, dub, jungle & electro with w/DJs monkey, marlo, & weekly guests.. Come on out and eat a late dinner and stick around with us for drinks and more. 9:30pm-to close, Free. ChaChaCha's located at The Original McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @19th Street, SOMA. Eklektic - jungle, drum n bass w/DJ Sage (jungle/drum 'n' bass Resident). Live: Weekly guests from the Bay area + the World. 9pm-2am, 21+, $12. 78 Minna, SF. 415.332.5800 x787 Double Trouble - Romanowski , Special Guests. Live funk and hip hop. Abstract Jazz. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Silky...smoothe and sublime - Come listen to how the ladys lay down the funky beats w/DJs Tracy (Sister), FabuLizz (Progress), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls). Silky, the all female cast of the SF underground, will be held at Il Pirata on the third Thursday of every month. (between Potrero and Utah) Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno. Email Art and decorations by: Bahar meets Angela. 9pm-2am, $3. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 [4.15 - Charlotte the Baroness (Sunburn Records)] The Circus - Hip-hop, Disco, Club Classics, House w/DJs Paolo Vincenti (Resident), Romero X Pinoza (Resident), Special Guests Weekly. Thursday night -this thursday, January 28th, is THE grand opening. 9:30pm-, 18+. $5 with a college ID. La Vals, 2516 Durant Ave, Berkeley. 510.595.5597 Every Thursday at the Top - Deep House spun by: w/DJs Laron, John Pickett, Dani, Robbie Hardkiss. Steven Tune and the original dues rock "we got the beats" beats for all kinds for the premillinnial mind. $3. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. FriscoGlide - Every Thursday at the Top w/DJs John Pickett, Laron, Rotating guests as well. House Music The Top (Lower Haight), SF. Definition - Quality house music by the world's leading djs - house, techno w/DJs Markus (Resident / Kickdrum), JP (Resident / Kickdrum), Kamahele (Undertow Records). Inside Sacramento's Newest Club 'The Garage'. $5. Club 1831, 1831 19th Street, Sacramento. 916.484.4614 [4.15 - Andy Blake ( Doodlebug, Abnormal Records, UK )] [4.22 - Tony ( Gathering, SF )] Techno Thursdays - house, techno w/DJs Dj Matt in the Hatt, Weekly Guests. Spinning house and techno every Thursday @ the Q Cafe. 9pm-. Q Cafe, 529 Alma, Palo Alto. 650.322.3311 _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Harmony Party Line - 408-486-9591 * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * the Buzz-line, a global party network - 650.569.3300 * Clubline - 415.339.8686 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * The Groove Line - 415.331.1500 ext.4788 * Mixology-Music (north bay) - 707.526.1230 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 * V.O.R.G. info - 415.750.3100 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV/Net Shows * Sunday-Sunday, 24 hours, 7 days a week, "Technostate" spins live with the dopest underground bay area dj's and work very hard at it! For more info see Technostate Website * Sunday night 8pm-10pm - "Soundz of Resistance" w/DJ Poohbear. Underground electronic music, mainly jungle/drum and bass, dub and hard techno along with guest DJs, interviews and not-so-random amples of life. KZSC 88.1 (Santa Cruz) * Sunday Night at 8pm - "Threshold" on Raveworld.net, A audio show featuring world class drum 'n' bass and Jungle Djs. * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Sunday night midnight-1am - "Shortwave" - Electronic music in all of its guises. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Sunday night 10pm-2am - "Jazzadelica" w/ Rocky Rococo. Exploring the groove: from jazz, funk and soul to world beat and all types of underground clubs. KFJC 89.7 (Los Altos Hills) * Monday night 9:30pm-midnight - "The Autobahn" w/dj Sutekh. Man and machine made music. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Monday 12 til 4 - "Three*Sixty Radio". Beta Lounge. * Mondays at 11:00 PM PST - "Krom" on Raveworld.net Featuring World Class Djs like Dj Sneak and Doc Martin * Every Other Mon Nite, 10pm-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis http://drxeno.cjb.net * Every Tuesday from 1 to 3pm - Trance, techno, breaks and jungle with "the underground with the secret asian man" - available on real audio @ ksfs.sfsu.edu Call ins, requests, and chances to win free gifts and passes to shows are always available, just stay tuned.... need more info? please email me at leopimp44@aol.com * Tuesday night 9pm-11:00pm - "Conscious Groove" - ambientdowntempojunglehousetrancedrumnbasstriphop spun by weekly guest DJs. Hosted by Stephanie aka Miss fat slice. Free Radio Berkeley on the internet - www.freeradio.org * Tuesday night 9pm-mid Pacific - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. The best in beats to satiate your inner child. Electronic dance, noise, spoken word, world music and more. Also available in RealAudio @ Epiphany of Sound Real Audio Also available: Humour List Archive Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) * Wednesday 3am-6am - "Nothing Short of Total War" w/Fathertime. Electronic musik of all kinds, interspersed with spoken word poetry and other various readings. KSCU 101.3 (Santa Clara/San Jose) * radio M.U.T.A.N.T. - live experimental techno and dj's playing all styles of underground music. spaz * Wednesday night 9pm-11pm - free form music mix. KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley) * Wednesday night - "the Power of Sound" with Leslie. A 3 hour excursion into the best music from the regions where minds meet between the heavans and the earth. KAZU 90.3 (Monterey Bay Community Radio) * Thursday morning 5am-7am - A postmodern Garrison Keillor on crack, DJ Boomerang Fidget spins hilarious tales of backwoods meth labs, urban decay and redneck ravers; all with a social conscience. Also, ambient & techno. Free Radio Berkeley 104.1 (Berkeley) * Thursday Morning 6-9am - "GYNA" Resident Djs buttek and maytag in a live 3 hour mix format bringin the latest UK and stateside rekkids...Guest djs coming include DJ Poop (Sf) next week, also be on the lookout for spots by DJ SIFU, Hak, and Sipon. For requests, rewinds, or anything else, call (408) 554-5728 or email thegyna * "Back To Babylon" - House extravaganza with DJ Sneak and Doc Martin. see Raveworld.net * Thursday morning 10am-2pm - "The Further Adventures of Aardvark" - trip-hop to experimental to ambient to gabba etc, etc. KSJS 90.5 (San Jose). * Thursday 7pm-11pm - The Beta Lounge - Live on the net - electronic music and culture, worldwide. http://www.betalounge.com/ * Friday 12pm-4pm - weekly DJ netcasts. x-radio. * Friday 3pm-6pm - free form music mix. KUSF 90.3 (SF) (also available on Realaudio * Friday 9:30am-noon - Snappy the Aligator plays deep groove music that dips into cool electronic sounds, classic soul, reggae & more. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Fridays 8pm PST - Freak City on Raveworld.net the definitive show on dance cultures. Featuring artists like Paul Van Dyk, Jason Bentley, Air and best of 1998 (Carl Cox, Josh Wink, Moontribe, Spundae, Burning Man * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night 1am-4am - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", with residents and hosts david garcia, st john along with joey mazzola and dj doubt. David garcia and joey mazzola are resident djs at the SKYLOUNGE located at 525 harrison st. along with rotating djs bb hayes and demilo. 1am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday morning - 12:30am-3am - "Under a Groove" with DJ CK featuring the deepest house grooves, downtempo cuts, and melodic drum and bass tunes. KZSC 88.1 FM, Santa Cruz. * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * (every other) Saturday night 10p-12:30a - "1984" w/DJ Richtoffen. House, Trance and German rave. 90.1 (Chico) * Saturday night - "amp" 1am. MTV. * Saturday night - "Subsonic". 1am-6am, KITS 105.3 SF. * Saturday night - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", Top 10s from guest DJs and "London Connection w/DJ Doubt". 2am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Ambiance Magazine - 9:30p weds-sun PNC Cable 2 (Modesto & Oakdale), 9p fri & sat, marcus cable ch 9 (ceres & turlock). * Saturday night/Sunday morning - 10pm - 3am, Aaron Axelson, Live 105.3 _________________________________________________________________ For a search interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.latetrain.com/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. 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Karina Powers - karina@hyperreal.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 01:09:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4408 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 01:09:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 4399 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 01:09:06 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 01:09:06 -0000 Received: from 209.157.114.99 (dynamic35.pm14.san-jose.best.com [209.157.114.99]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id SAA12820 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370EA497.3D96DE13@resourcerecords.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 18:08:39 -0700 From: The Accomplice Reply-To: chris@resourcerecords.com Organization: Resource Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Free tech tape.. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Just letting all 30 people who won the Chris Jackson "Artificial Intelligence" that if you didn't get it today(Fri.), then you will most likely get it tom.(Sat.4.10.99)...excluding a few out of state winners, which will receive it ?? Sooo, if you don't get one by mid next week, you probably didn't win!!! Party safe this weekend.... be tech.. chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 01:12:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6606 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 01:12:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6587 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 01:12:49 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?s8xh39fhiHhPsBQnDz/M9yrU1jDLvwuN?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 01:12:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id SAA18123 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:09:12 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:09:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: weekend jungle picks: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tonight, Friday: IT IS A DOUBLE WHAMMY. In the Bassment at 1015, you have the truly wonderful and talented DJ Siren from Spundae/XLR8R, and the need no intro DJ Rinse. But, on the mellower tip, Il Pirata on 2007 Potrero at 16th has Honey B and DJ Sifu from the biggity biggity O, and also PBS Crew (Mateo, No Battles, Arc Angel Gabe Real, and Buna) with the drum&bass dissection. Then tomorrow night, there is no choice. Go to Compound REcords on 6 Valencia at Market, buy a pre-sale. Go to Audio Impact on Saturday night. Watch Rinse, Flux, Star Eyes, Zacariah from Seattle, and the badman Phantom 45 slap shit. If you have never seen Phantom 45 live before, you need to check his shit out. Original Chicago tearout. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 01:15:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7804 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 01:15:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 7788 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 01:15:48 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 01:15:48 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vTOa023592; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:12:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: <44c4c72b.243fff88@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:12:40 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing To: Taiida@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 238 Reply-To: Fine19boy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree with tami i love eyebrow rings and i just got mine done in l.a. a few weeks ago. i love it :) im so happy to have it. i got it really cheep too cause i already had the ring to pierce it with. i am gonna get like two more in my eyebrow though. tongue bars and navels rings are fun too. i had both done a while back (my belly button got so badly infected) i like tatoo's but only if its a tatoo i have designed. i wouldn't mind something forever being stitched into my body if its a piece of my artwork. that way i'll have an example of my art work wherever i go :) trevor From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 01:32:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15067 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 01:32:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 15052 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 01:32:48 -0000 Received: from f42.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 01:32:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 58258 invoked by uid 0); 10 Apr 1999 01:33:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990410013320.58257.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 18:33:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: cuaotemoc@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR jokes; was: defending Ecco Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 18:33:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Riddle: >How many shingles does it take to cover a dog house in the winter? > >Answer: >Green, because snakes don't have arm pits? That reminds me of a joke I heard: Q: How many surrealists does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Flourescent pink machine tools in the bathtub. Wayne And if you haven't signed up for hotmail yet (not like you really should, I mean, hey, it's up to you), here's your chance: Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 01:56:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23640 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 01:56:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 23632 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 01:56:45 -0000 Received: from pantheon-po04.its.yale.edu (130.132.143.35) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 01:56:45 -0000 Received: from [130.132.53.92] (audioboy.sm.yale.edu [130.132.53.92]) by pantheon-po04.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02171; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Sender: Sam Luckenbill@sbl23.mail.yale.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <19990408225447.14827.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:56:41 -0400 To: Michael Standish From: Samuel Luckenbill Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing Cc: SFRaves Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk definatly more cheap,the jewelry was included. At 5:15 PM -0700 4/9/99, Michael Standish wrote: >At 8:02 PM -0400 4/8/99, Samuel Luckenbill wrote: >>I'm going to second that, gottsi is good, .... >>So lesson learned: don't get your tragus pierced >>if it's too small.. :) > >And, because most of us don't know when our tragi are too small to pierce, >or our bellybuttons the wrong shape, it's best, as Samual suggests, to just >go to Gottsi. They have the knowledge to determine if a piercing is right >for you, and the integrity to tell you when it isn't. > >I'm not just saying this, because Gottsi are friends of mine. Gottsi have: >better piercing technics, better aftercare instructions, better jewlery, >better prices. > >Remember folks poorly done piercings are more painful, leave ugly scars, >look funny because they're not placed properly, and can cause disease. So >go to reputable shops only. Hint: if they sell drug paraphernalia, be >afraid. > >Oh yeah: G=F5tts=ED are at: >6601 Telegraph on the Oakland Berkeley border >510.652.2897 > >Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 02:27:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5543 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 02:27:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 5533 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 02:27:46 -0000 Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 02:27:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990410022543.1064.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.71] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 19:25:43 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:25:43 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: NRR but List related... To: Nuku , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Miss Nuku, I got that too. No idea why, but what do I care? :) whee! love, michael o)-< --- Nuku wrote: > I think someone off the list has subscribed me to > another list..so whoever > did it and I don't know who and I don't care to > know. Unsubscribe me...I > hate getting msg's like this: > > FROM: SSLENET/PAB281A/POSTMASTER > TO: Nuku > DATE: 04-09-99 > > TIME: 12:59 > SUBJECT: Mail failure > > Etc etc etc...2nd time today...and don't even get > smart wit me on this ben :P > Cuz this was after I sent this to the sfrlist and no > one else.. > Nuku > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 03:37:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6222 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 03:37:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 6201 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 03:37:28 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 03:37:28 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vJXYa17650; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:35:51 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:35:51 EDT Subject: !!LOST CAMCORDER AT F-8!! To: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk MY BEST FRIEND JOE COULDNT MAKE IT TO F-8 ,SO HE PLEADED ME TO BRING MY CAMCORDER AND GET SHOTS OF ALL OUR FRIENDS IN ACTION. IT CAME DOWN TO ME IN THE CAR, PARKED, THINKING WEATHER OR NOT I SHOULD BRING IT IN. I FIGURED I WOULD CAUSE I ALWAYS CARRY A BACKPAC AND ITS A SMALL CAMERA SO WHAT THEE HELL. I GOT GREAT SHOTS STANDING IN LINE SEEING EVERY PERSON I KNEW IN THE WORLD STANDING AROUND ME. I GOT CHILLS WHEN THINKING HOW FUN IT WOULD BE TO SHOW JOE THE MOVIE. I WAS UP ON THE SPEAKER FOR SOME TIME RECORDING THE LIGHTS AND EVERYONE ENJOYING THEIR TIME AT THE KILLER PARTY. SOME GIRL CAME UP TO ME (SHE WAS ON THE FLOOR, I WAS ON THE SPEAKER) AND YELLED THAT SHE KNEW ME.....WELL I KNOW LOTS OF PEOPLE AND SHE WASNT FAMILIAR SO WHATEVER, MY G-FRIEND LISA HAD BEEN WAITING FOR ME TO COME DOWN SO I HANDED HER THE CAMERA, CLIMBED DOWN, STUCK IT IN MY BACK PAC AND SAT DOWN WITH THE GIRLS AND CONVERSED FOR ABOUT 20 MINS. WHEN WE GOT UP TO GO DANCE LISA TOLD ME I COULD STICK MY BACKPAC WITH HER FRIEND BERNIE WHO I KNOW SORTA WELL. HE HAD BEEN SITTING THERE FOR LIKE 1 HOUR SO I FIGURED HE WASNT GOING ANYWHERE ANYTIME SOON. I HAD BEEN HOLDING ONTO THAT CAMERA LIKE NO OTHER SO I WASNT ABOUT TO LEAVE IT WITH SOMEONE I DIDNT KNOW, BUT I TRUST THE GUY SO I DID. WE CAME BACK AFTER MARS' SICK ASS SET TO FIND....NO BERNIE. LISA'S BAG WAS GONE AND MINE WAS THERE BUT WITH NO CAMERA. ALL MY MONEY WAS IN MY BAG TOO SO I KEPT IN MY MIND I MIGHT HAVE PUT IT IN LISAS BAG. WE LOOKED ALL NIGHT BACK BY THE SPEAKER FOR THE STUFF BUT IT WAS GONE. I CHEKED BACK ONE MORE TIME (FED UP BY THEN, WITH NO HOPE) TO FIND HER BAG. IT WAS PUT BACK AND ALL HER STUFF WAS IN IT. I LOOKED ALL NIGHT FOR THE 900 DOLLAR CAMERA AND COULDNT FIND IT. TALKED TO THE STAFF AND NOTHING WAS TURNED IN...THIS IS MY LAST HOPE-WRITING THIS MAIL. THAT WAS A CHRISTMAS PRESENT TO TAKE SNOWBOARDING WITH MY FRIENDS. ALL I HAD IN MIND AT THE PARTY WAS "IF I GO HOME WITH NO CAMERA, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY I AT LEAST ENJOYED THE PARTY RATHER THAN TRIPPING AND HAVING A SHITTY NIGHT" I HAD A GOOD TIME, AND WHEN JOE ASKED HOW GOOD IT WAS , I REPLIED WITH " I HAD AN AAMMAAZING NIGHT EVEN THO I LOST 900 BUCKS" THATS HOW GOOD IT WAS. BUT EITHER WAY...IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO WHATSOEVER, IT WOULD BE OF GREAT HELP. ITS A SONY HANDYCAM WITH 27X ZOOM. THATS ABOUT ALL I REMEMBER. ITS GOT A VIDEO OF ALL MY FRIENDS SAYING "WE MISS YOU JOE" SO IF YOU EVER SEE THAT....PLEEZ HELP=) I LOVE ALL OF YOU AND HOPE THAT IF YOU EVER FOUND SOMEONE ELSES CAMERA OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE,, YOUD DO THEM A FAVOR AND DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO GET IT BACK TO THEM. I WOULD LOOK AT THE VIDEO, REMEMBER FACES, LOOK AT PARTIES FOR THOSE FACES AND RELATE THEM BACK TO JOE. THAT WOUOLD BE COOL BUT WHATEVER. HAVE A GREAT DAY! PLUR -EVER "OUR TRUEST LIFE IS IN OUR DREAMS AWAKE" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 03:51:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12958 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 03:50:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12949 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 03:50:56 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 03:50:56 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id lPUJa07519; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:49:49 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: <17fb5c91.2440245d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:49:49 EDT Subject: THANK U CHRIS ! ! ! To: chris@resourcerecords.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thank u very much Chris for the mixtape! i just got it today and am very happy =) i didnt get a chance to listen to it yet but felt like a thank-u note is in order =) ill definately post a review in a day or 2 but for now just wanna say once again: THANK U CHRIS ! ! ! PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 04:51:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5835 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 04:51:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 5826 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 04:51:40 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 04:51:40 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.158] (kenya-158.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.158]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19099; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:51:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3112c215.243d0b73@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:29:51 -0700 To: HppyXTC@aol.com From: Deepfog Subject: Re: NRR: Please send some good vibes!! Cc: SFRavEs Mailing List Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Hey everyone, > >I'm having a pretty crappy day. I have to wear a heart monitor and see >doctors and all sorts of crazy stuff, to see if I have a heart defect. It is >probably nothing but it is scary and getting me down anyway. If you guys >could send me some good vibes it would be much appreciated!! Things like this >make you realize how delicate your body is and how we should all treat it >good, because we only have ONE! Anyway, thanks everyone for listening to me! > You all are such great people. I'll see you at tickle. > >Love, Heather why do you have a heart monitor? have you ever seen gattaca? ethan hawke has a faulty heart in that movie. it's good. and ethan is lookin good in that flick. really good. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 04:51:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6110 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 04:51:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 5993 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 04:51:44 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 04:51:44 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.158] (kenya-158.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.158]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19132; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:51:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <370E50EB.491AF569@bayarea.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:45:20 -0700 To: Jim Maze , SFRaves From: Deepfog Subject: Re: NRR: World War III?? Cc: wpenna@cruzio.com, Z Uptegrove , gtsc@cruzio.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 12:11 PM -0700 09-04-1999, Jim Maze wrote: >OK....I am normally not caught up in all the Armegeddon paranoia or >anything....but this can't be good. Especially considering that >Nostradomus predicted the end of the world in July 1999. Better rave it >up while we still can ;) > i beg to differ on this. i do not believe from what i have read of Nostradamus' writing (and his Sagittarian poetry is hard to decypher at times) that he said the world is going to end in July 1999. There is supposed to be a major event that shapes our world somewhere around that time, what he mentions a lot are 2 eclipses (which, ironically, will be seen throughout most of Eastern Europe) and something cataclysmically major to happen at some point after that, but he did not seem to mention when. Personally, I look forward to it. There are a lot of people on this planet that simply have it too easy in life and don't really deserve to be on the planet in corporeal form. And a lot of them don't even want to be here...but are too scared to commit suicide or aren't sure. maybe a good spin of the earth's axis a few times around would be an invigorating change. and besides, if and when it does happen, i think it would be so instantaneous that there would be little suffering (thousands of mile an hour winds, tidal waves, etc etc) no more mcdonalds! yes!!!! i intend to survive somehow though. look me up and my disaster-proof sound system and nuclear generator. oh, ps by the way, how many of you want to bet that milosevich is the antichrist beast that nostradamus talks about? i don't know for sure yet, but it's looking that way. killing all those innocent civilians? ha. also, go to http://www.gdtimes.com/ to risas stars page and she talks about the crisis in kosovo. some interesting words are spoken by this woman. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 04:51:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6405 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 04:51:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6240 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 04:51:51 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 04:51:51 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.158] (kenya-158.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.158]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19201; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:51:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:49:06 -0700 To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org From: Deepfog Subject: Re: Who all is going to HARMONY'S: "The Springtime Flower Festival!!!" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hurrah to auntie patrice. well if you guys must know, i more than likely will not be at this party. At 8:37 PM -0700 06-04-1999, TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/6/99 8:07:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Taiida@aol.com >writes: > ><< > Just curious to find out who's going to Harmony next weekend??? Anyone I > know? =) > >> >DO we have to do this for every party weeks in Advance??? I don't even know >what I'm doing tomorrow!! It takes up WAAAAY too much space in tha mailbox >if you know what I'm saying. What's a lot more fun is to organize a meeting >spot and be surprised when You DO run into people at the list. Ok.. or wait >until the weekend of the party at least to post shiznit like this. grumble> > >hugs n;stuff, >trice the tekno diva > > "BITCH IS SPELLED B-I-S-P-O" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 04:52:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6989 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 04:52:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 6637 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 04:52:00 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 04:52:00 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.158] (kenya-158.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.158]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19217; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:51:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <370CED90.771F392C@hrg.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:57:26 -0700 To: johnr@hrg.com, MacBunny From: Deepfog Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Cc: Joaqman , sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Over the years Ive always loved the Wicked djs....Jeno, Garth, Thomas, and >Markie. i must agree. i owe a lot of my musical interests to Jeno Garth and Markie. It was during a very intense trip at a full moon with markie at the decks for 4 1/2 hours that i decided i wanted to be a dj when i grow up. that's all. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 04:59:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11234 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 04:58:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 11205 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 04:58:55 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 04:58:55 -0000 Received: from Dolpcandy@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vLEDa20343 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:58:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Dolpcandy@aol.com Message-ID: <498e8701.24403466@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:58:14 EDT Subject: NRR: deepfog hope you are ok :-) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Dolpcandy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OHHHHHHH I am so sorry to hear that. I will pray for you. Your right about treating your body correctly, because you only get one :-*( Well, i hope you are ok. FEEL BETTER! AND GOOD LUCK ~Bianca~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 05:26:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22213 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 05:26:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 22202 invoked by uid 233); 10 Apr 1999 05:26:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: BigM009@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: "Welcome to hell Laura" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I second this reccomendation -- don't take him seriously! Paul was just giving me the only lovin he knows how to give:) Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Fri, 9 Apr 1999 BigM009@aol.com wrote: > Paul E Wog is back and starting flames already. Aaaaaaahahahahaha. This is > going to be fun. For people who arent familiar with Paul E Wogs posts, dont > take things so seriously. Peace, M > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 05:35:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25129 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 05:35:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25118 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 05:35:01 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 05:35:01 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vNGa015543 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:33:50 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <4798453e.24403cbe@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:33:50 EDT Subject: NRR: Joke Redneck style To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WhrDaMud@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk enjoy ya'll, and b safe this weekend One day a young cowboy and cowgirl decided to get married. After the wedding they left for their honeymoon. While driving down the road, the new bride sees two cows having sex. The new bride asks, "What are they doing honey?" The husband answers, "They're roping!" She replies, "Oh, I see!" After a few more hours of driving they pass two horses having sex. Again the bride asks, "What are they doing honey?" The husband answers, "They're roping!" She replies, "Oh, I see!" Finally they arrive at their hotel. The couple washed up and started to get ready for bed. When they got in the bed, they started to explore each others body. The bride discovers her husbands penis. "What is that?" she asks. "That's my rope," he answers. She slides her hands down further and gasps, "What are those?" she asks. "They're my knots," he answers. Finally the couple begins to make love. After several minutes the bride says, "Stop honey, wait a minute! Her husband asks, "What's the matter honey, am I hurting you?" "No," the bride replies, "undo those knots, I need more rope!" ------------------ Trying to subscribe, unsubscribe or change addresses???? - Please help YOURSELF at the website: - http://www.angelfire.com/hi/ovydd/humor.html ------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 06:27:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12356 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 06:27:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 12347 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 06:27:20 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 06:27:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990410062722.18978.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.70] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 23:27:22 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:27:22 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: NRR: whistle blowing and my work To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: talk@warmth.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I'm totally delerious from sleep deprivation, and I was thinking about "The Andy Griffith Show" for some reason (y'know the theme song) and I remembered about something that happenned to me at work yesterday (shows you just how wacked my mind is): there's this door at work that squeaks when it shuts. But it doesn't squeak in a normal door-squeaky fashion: it squeaks like a raver blowing a whistle at a party! Well, sort of. The raver whistle that I hear most commonly at parties goes like, "tweet-tweet! tweet-tweet-tweet!" The door goes: "tweet-tweet!" and I catch myself finishing it with "tweet-tweet-tweet!" out loud. Everyone thinks I'm nuts. :D :P michael o)-< the sleep-deprived stickman "if you and I were squirrels..." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 07:00:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20052 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 07:00:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 19919 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 07:00:16 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 07:00:16 -0000 Received: from WOO1121@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vWAKa18505 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:59:34 -0400 (EDT) From: WOO1121@aol.com Message-ID: <348604cc.244050d6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:59:34 EDT Subject: Re: Discovery To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WOO1121@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ya more applause from me too! Much entertainment of the fun variety and the location was kawai. Even though i accidentily slept through today's agenda which included school. Love, Amanda Kung Pow* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 09:16:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7808 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 09:16:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7785 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 09:16:07 -0000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (17.254.0.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 09:16:07 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11966 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:11:06 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (scv2.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (mailgate1.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:11:02 -0700 Received: from [17.201.22.70] (roseal.apple.com [17.201.22.70]) by scv2.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11234 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:11:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199904100911.CAA11234@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:11:00 -0700 Subject: Things to do in Munich? From: "Alex Rosenberg" To: sfraves MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm headed to Munich 4/15-4/22 on a business trip. The only German I know I learned from "The Great Escape" and Castle Wolfenstein (blasphemer! I mean the Apple ][ original from Muse). Since I'll be mostly car-less, what's worth doing in Munich? +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Alexander M. Rosenberg | | Nobody cares what I say. Remove the underscore to mail me. | From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 14:27:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4322 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 14:27:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 4313 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 14:27:31 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 14:27:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990410142538.13505.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [24.4.254.67] by web4; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:25:38 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:25:38 -0700 (PDT) From: General E Subject: Raverday Disneyland PICTURES To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Loads of pictures from Raverday Disneyland (by RaveLinks, 3/21/99) have been posted to RaveLinks (http://www.ravelinks.com) -General E www.ravelinks.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 16:33:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12224 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 16:33:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 12210 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 16:33:13 -0000 Received: from web605.mail.yahoo.com (HELO web605.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.169) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 16:33:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990410163750.25777.rocketmail@ web605.yahoomail.com> Received: from [38.28.103.102] by web605.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:37:50 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:37:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Guybear Subject: Re: 420 Party??? To: HppyXTC@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Soundzzz good to me, i got the day off specifically to celebrate! Lemme know wad up! =) *huggers* Guy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 16:39:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15540 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 16:39:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 15532 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 16:39:21 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 16:39:21 -0000 Received: from c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.87.180]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990410163917.LNEJ19957.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:39:17 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: "SFRaves" Subject: (late) Children of the Sun review... Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:41:11 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be8381$b62747c0$508112ac@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what a weird ass party! Sorry this is late in coming, but I've been on the road... but this party definitely needs a review. First major props to Chris... it really warmed Skye and my heart (and those around us) to see you, a total stranger to the girl who had obviously taken too much of something, show total compassion and care for her... from the "hey are you OK" to going to the hospital with her (and the bathroom with her) when it became obvious that she was in some need of some help..... super reaffirming in humanity type stuff... what a weird ass party! We had heard cool things about it... about shuttling, UG location, well put together type stuff... so we bought tix and headed over. Parked at 2nd and Cartheft, hopped into the van. Really nice driver, kind of spyish to be shuttled around. The driver said that the crew had been working on this party for a long time, since FRIDAY. (HUH?) Oh well I thought it must've been a slip or a mistake. Starting on a party one day before? nah. Got to the location. My first time there (quite a feat to be said for partying in the bay area these days). there were a lot of people. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE there. packed. Props for the freee drinks (tangonade?) the shuttling and security portion was really well done. nice peeps, well organized, well executed. My question was... where the hell did those people come from? whats up with "the house... the house... the house is on fire...... " and the "muther fuker yeaaaah yeaaaaaaah in yo face" screaming frat boys just got out of a bar crowd? you saw them. as someone said... it is a BAD IDEA to combine E with testosterone!!! no Shit! another thing said... "such a funny drug... e... while you're on it you love everyone around you, but are for some reason more inclined to be even more rude and pushy around those same people". no kidding again. ;) the bouncy floor was kind of neat-but sounded like the DJs nightmare. At least we know that Thomas Trouble can scratch now eh? right in the middle of breakdowns several times the needles lifted / skipped / scratched across the records.... ouch! but the wierdest thing was the people. It looked as if about 30% of the place were first time ravers, with no clue to what anything is about, and REALLY high. High out of their heads. One girl had to go to the hospital. She had taken "roughnecks" her friend Mo was a character too. This guy laying on the floor was screaming up to people "Hey I'm Mo I'm high!!! I'm High!" thanks Mo. we know. He then told us that he couldn't feel pain. as he banged his HEAD on the concrete floor 5 times in a row to show us. Then he told us about the roughnecks, about how he (and how he told all his friends) about preloading his E-xperiene with 5HTP, and by NOT eating for a whole day before. I'm sure this "advice" helped his friend go to the hospital. there were so many more small groups of people, who screamed "outsider" or "I'm here for the drugs" that were high, reduced to babbling people sitting in corners and on the floor. Inside the main area we had the gangsters / vanilla ice wanna bees that wanted to break, slam, spin, and push all of us out of the way. It was not fun being there. The music? Andys set was pretty cool. Nice visuals I must add. the Star wars trailer was pretty cool. ;) Gregs set was cool old skool and clean too. thomas? hmmgh. interesting. the bouncing floor must've made it hard... but there were a few did he beat match that? mixes in there... ;) I know the girl going to the hospital held thiungs up with the shuttles back to the cars... understandable. But even up to the very end when we left there were sweaty push people being very rude inside, and people so high as to be out of their minds laying on the carpet in the chill area... and then there was Mo. I wonder what trade publication or magazine that the promoters placed an add in? I really wanna avoid that kind of crowd at all future parties again! I still don't understand the "the house..... the house.... let the muther (*&ker burn) screaming" odd stuff heh thanks again Chris for taking the time and caring enough to take care of the girl... do the promoters have an update as to why / what happened and if she's OK? gEoff ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 17:30:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3343 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 17:30:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 3316 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 17:30:55 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 17:30:55 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.94] (madmax-94.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.94]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21811 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:22:34 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk quoth TriXXXXe4@aol.com >The nipple piercing hurts more on guys than on girls. I dunno, my nipple wasn't that bad. There was an insant of sharp pain, but it was over before I could comprehend how much it hurt. Now my apadravya, that shit was fucking PAINFUL! Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 17:31:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3658 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 17:31:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 3325 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 17:30:56 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 17:30:56 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.94] (madmax-94.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.94]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21804 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:17:42 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just a note on eyebrow rings. They will grow out. Maybe in a few weeks, most likely in a few months, or in some cases in a few years, but they will grow out. And, if you don't take the jewelery out before it's to late, you get an ugly, bald scar through your eyebrow. Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 18:35:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23680 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 18:35:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 23670 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 18:35:10 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 18:35:10 -0000 Received: from 209.157.114.5 (dynamic25.pm06.san-jose.best.com [209.24.165.89]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id LAA28030 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370F9990.D8CAF9AF@resourcerecords.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:34:04 -0700 From: The Accomplice Reply-To: chris@resourcerecords.com Organization: Resource Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Free party in south bay Tonite! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, those of you who arent going someplace else, come check out a free party in San Jose!! 18+ / 21+ to drink...full bar 4th St. Cafe' 1560 N. 4th St. (across the street from 4th St. Bowl) San Jose FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE 9pm......2am Dj's Mill (Underground Clothing) Chris Jackson (Resource Records, Jump, Sonic Groove NYC.) Scott Rich (SBFPC, Goodvibe) & GUESTS... Hope to see you there!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 18:50:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28853 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 18:50:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 28840 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 18:50:22 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 18:50:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990410185342.11887.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.205.54] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:53:42 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:53:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Whats happening tonight??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If anyone knows of any smaller parties going on tonight, email me privately or page me at 408-699-7997, leave a message. Jess From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 19:11:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9659 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 19:11:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 9649 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 19:11:21 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 19:11:21 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vPPNa01911 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:10:39 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:10:39 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: whistle blowing and my work To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You are nuts! Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 19:14:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12724 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 19:14:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 12700 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 19:14:38 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 19:14:38 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vBFZa12394 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:13:38 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:13:38 EDT Subject: Re: NRR but List related... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just a side note, Ive been having that happen to me too. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 19:50:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29191 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 19:50:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 29179 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 19:50:48 -0000 Received: from mercury.hypersurf.com (206.40.40.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 19:50:48 -0000 Received: from kaotic.hypersurf.com (PortSJ59.sj.hypersurf.com [206.40.43.59]) by mercury.hypersurf.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA22323; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:42:15 GMT From: "Jenn the kaotic 1" To: , Subject: RE: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:48:42 -0700 Message-ID: <004001be838b$235023e0$2f2b28ce@kaotic.hypersurf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <8497ade3.243f9252@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > > In a message dated 4/9/99 12:44:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > CanContrl@aol.com writes: > > << > i was taught in my Psych class that people with alot of body > peircing and > tatoos are doing it psychologically to hurt themselves...to > inflict pain on > themselves by pericing/tatooing their bodies.... > just something i wanted to share > dean* >> > I think that may have been true at one time. If you think back to the typical tattoos of yesteryear (skulls, bones, skeletons etc...) but the audeince for tattoos has really broadened and so has the style and artwork used. I think that the motivations of those getting tattoos have changed with it. But it's nice to know that if I ever do need to go into therapy I won't have to waste a lot of time diagnosing my problems or pondering my feelings for my parents. Instead I can just whip out my tattoos and be immediately classified and pidgeon holed. kaotic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 19:55:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1062 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 19:55:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 1053 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 19:55:08 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 19:55:08 -0000 Message-id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:53:19 -0700 Subject: BSP: $10 Honey To: emcguire@leland.stanford.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First off, I would like to give huge props to all the promoters out there who throw parties. This is the first time I have ever taken on such a task and I learned some lessons the hard way. We lost 2 locations (thanks to the US Army and the word "rave") but we finally secured one. The location is smaller so we had to cut 3 DJs (I give full appologies to Mook, Micron and nman, although it was beyond my control but I take full responsibility for it and of course you are all on the guest list). I have put more energy and resources into this party then you would believe and I hope some of you will come check it out. Also, a big thanks to everyone who helped us out! Hugs to all, Bob-Bee........aQ Here is the final update for honey The Colorblind Collective and Theatre Now! Present Honey Friday April 30th from 9 pm till 7am Mike Wilson, Drone, Meadow, Hak, Siphon, Mark Clark, Pengo, Leath A.L.E.R., Ikon, Amber, Jeph, Andy W, Joaqman, Ryan Christopher Monterey Bay Location Honey Buzz Line: 408.682.3500 Free Fruit-Water Free Chai Brought to you by Nub Chai This is a benefit for Theatre Now!, Tix are going to be be $10 so we can all spend the evening together as a cohesive family bonded by the love of music! Tickets are limited so get them early at Solid Grooves in San Jose or call the buzz line From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 20:33:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14028 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 20:33:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 14002 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 20:33:00 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 20:33:00 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.94] (madmax-130.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.130]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA20706 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:30:03 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: RE: NRR: Tattoo/Piercing*What ur really doing* Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/9/99 12:44:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > CanContrl@aol.com writes: > i was taught in my Psych class that people with alot of body > peircing and > tatoos are doing it psychologically to hurt themselves...to > inflict pain on > themselves by pericing/tatooing their bodies.... > just something i wanted to share > dean* How does your Psych class feel about other, more extreme, and risky forms of permantent body art? For example boob jobs, nose jobs, tummy tucks, steroid use, botox injections, face lifts... I guess it's only self mutilation if it doesn't fit the dominant society's idea of beauty. Of course with every Barbie and her sister Skipper rushing out to get their oh so trendy belly, tongue, and eyebrow rings, the dominant society's idea of beauty is changing rapidly. Fuck! Piercings are so mainstream now. The piercing scene was better back the day, when it was all UG. It's all the fault of those greedy, money hungry, massive shops marketing to mall crawling Amerika. The vibe is just not the same any more. It used to be that if somebody had a tongue piercing, or even a belly ring, you could talk to them about any piercing, and the wouldn't say "Eew! Like that is so tottaly gross. Oh my God. They didn't say anything about those kind of piercings in Sassy." "Remember it's not self mutilation if you pay us to do it for you." (Matt Greonig, Akbar & Geoff's Piercing Hut ad. circa 1993) "If it doesn't hurt, it's not fashion" Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 21:22:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7953 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 21:22:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 7868 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 21:22:41 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 21:22:41 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.131] (ghana-171.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.171]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11122; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:22:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <498e8701.24403466@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:00:07 -0700 To: Dolpcandy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Deepfog Subject: Re: NRR: deepfog hope you are ok :-) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 9:58 PM -0700 09-04-1999, Dolpcandy@aol.com wrote: >OHHHHHHH I am so sorry to hear that. I will pray for you. Your right about >treating your body correctly, because you only get one :-*( >Well, i hope you are ok. >FEEL BETTER! AND GOOD LUCK >~Bianca~ hahahhahahahhaahahahhahaha! it's not me going to the doctor silly, it was happyxtc! i think though she is going to be ok. sorry about the confusion....it's probably my fault for erasing part of the message. later deepfog healthy as ever (today) =] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 21:54:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22443 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 21:54:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 22430 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 21:54:10 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 21:54:10 -0000 Received: from IIBriSkII@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 2VWNa17884; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:51:59 -0400 (EDT) From: IIBriSkII@aol.com Message-ID: <454f37e4.244121ff@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:51:59 EDT Subject: anyone have tickets to tickle To: deepfog@hooked.net, Dolpcandy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: IIBriSkII@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello i need 2 tix for tickle... email me please if u have any... thanks briske From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 21:56:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23319 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 21:56:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990410215600.23318.qmail@hyperreal.org> Received: (qmail 23311 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 21:55:58 -0000 Received: from latte.2xtreme.net (208.147.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 21:55:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 2754 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 20:58:09 -0000 Received: from p160.stk3.2xtreme.net (HELO omzz) (organic@209.21.55.160) by latte.2xtreme.net with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 20:58:09 -0000 X-Sender: omz@mail.2xtreme.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:40:35 -0600 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: omz Subject: full moon dates? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the list says friday the 16th, the site says april 30th. both.? which one?? wtf? omz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 22:19:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7613 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 22:19:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 7604 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 22:19:53 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 22:19:53 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (2Cust19.tnt1.sfo1.da.uu.net [208.250.181.147]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09527; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990410152129.0074b854@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:21:29 -0700 To: binary fineboy , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: swati shah Subject: Re: Discovery In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990409151115.03947220@shell4.ba.best.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990409144413.00754748@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk alright, i'm sorry, i was wrong. but i asked mars, and he said it was inspector gadget, but i guess he just didn't want to crush my enthusiasm. sorry again, swati At 03:11 PM 4/9/99 -0700, binary fineboy wrote: > >> >>One more thing...did anyone else catch the bombass tune Mars and Mystr-e >>spun? Inspector Gadget????? It was so incredible. Took me a little while to >>recognize it. >> > >actually it was "in the hall of the mountain king" ... almost like >Inspector Gadget but not quite. > >~r > > > > > > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 10 23:39:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10457 invoked by uid 6000); 10 Apr 1999 23:39:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 10440 invoked from network); 10 Apr 1999 23:39:46 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 10 Apr 1999 23:39:46 -0000 Received: from HiSKiD76@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vMHYa23597 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:39:16 -0400 (EDT) From: HiSKiD76@aol.com Message-ID: <16736eec.24413b24@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:39:16 EDT Subject: NRR: looking for place to live To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: HiSKiD76@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey kidds its me ceL i got a question for u ....i really want to/need to move out ....so.... does anyone on here need a roomie, in their own place or would like to move out with someone?....or does someone know of someone who needs a roomie? if anyone does email me personally......i am really easy to get along with ...i am a people person.....im friendly....and i got a good job which is why i CAN move out now...sooo anyone got some info for me..... when u email me personally i can let u know more about me....oK? loves ceL From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 00:17:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20525 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 00:17:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 20517 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 00:17:35 -0000 Received: from web222.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 00:17:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411001702.24910.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.215] by web222.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:17:02 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:17:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: nrr:blah To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am much too weary to be spazmodically interesting today, but I thought I'd post something. I feel obliged to show my face so to speak while I have the time. Even if you aren't very pleased that I am here, you will miss me nonetheless when I am not. I will miss you too. This is an interesting introduction to the world that Timothy Leary predicted in his book about cyberspace, the title escapes me at the moment, but I highly recommend it. I read it to a ninety year old woman before she died, so that she wouldn't miss out on the world we still live in.love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 00:54:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 188 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 00:54:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 173 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 00:54:05 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 00:54:05 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id mDFFa01909; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:51:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <8f199769.24414c26@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:51:50 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: World War III?? To: jmaze@bayarea.net CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Y'know all, I don't believe that that nostradamus guy was all to perfect in his predictions. I think the world is making a drastic chsnge, not for the better though. Has anyone noticed how the weather, everywhere has been getting severely abnormal ? It rains more in the rainy season, it's hotter every summer, the winters are colder. Every year it seems to get worse and worse. Now if you were an EARTH Technician (and you were experienced), you'd probably recognize these problems as leading to a larger problem. You'd have your troubleshooting knowledge and you'd figure it out. It's only logic. It's simple. I believe that the world will end by 2010. By 2010, not on it. "BY" being either people related or naturally. I think that most people (the ones buying guns getting prepped for Y2K) will be the ones who start this end. Everyone else, will eventually contribute their share. I mean, can you really stop millions of crazy people who think that they have to kill or be killed. Or will you end up protecting yourself ? I't an awkward circle to get stuck in, but we may, in our lifespans. . . sure enough experience it. It's kind of depressing, but at least if the world ends soon. . . I'll go where I believe I'll go, and my children won't have to live through the chaos. Strange huh. Some people thought the world would just destroy itself, but what if the world was ready to go, but we beat it to it ? HUGZzzzzzzz for ever and ever. . . . LuVYaLl Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 01:03:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4672 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:03:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 4662 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:03:28 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:03:28 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3CURa20627 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:02:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <8f19976c.24414eb4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:02:44 EDT Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh HELL NO !!!! If I find out anyone on this list drives drunk. . . I'm gonna kick your ass !!! That is the stupidest thing any raver could possibly do. Sure, I can drive great (At least I think I do) frying balls whenever, I can drive great E'in my ass off, I can drive pretty good sorta Stoned, but the one time I drove drunk (I only had to go 4 blocks) I could not drive for nuthin, all swerving everywhere and I'm lucky the roads were empty. But PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT Drive drunk at all. . . alcohol is a horrible chemical, and seriously. . . if you're too drunk to drive, then don't. I mean, I'd feel horrible to know that I lost yet another person to alcohol, and it just isn't worth it to be brave. Even if you're buzzed. . . take extreme care and please use good judgement. I LoVUalL HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 01:20:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10752 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:20:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10738 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:20:05 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:20:05 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vHGFa17884 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:19:19 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:19:19 EDT Subject: tickle!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_a27baf49.24415297_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_a27baf49.24415297_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok kidz, so i don't usually do this, but here goes... i'm going to tickle tonight, and if any of you see me you have to stop me and say hi, cuz i want to meet all you kidz!!! so i'll be wearing my big breakdown blue jeans, a white tank top, and a blue and silver adidas vest... my hair is dark brown and i'm gonna wear it up in princess leia buns, i'll have a black polo sport shoulder bag, and for those of you who care, i've attatched a picture of me and my friend erik at spirit =) so all of you better come say hi tonite!!!! *mW@h* love and hugs and kisses, tina --part1_a27baf49.24415297_boundary Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="ERIK&ME.JPG" 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(qmail 14668 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:32:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 14658 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:32:50 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:32:50 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vUFLa23591; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:32:10 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <6b3f7865.2441559a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:32:10 EDT Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PLease, I think that a person should NOT drive while on ANY substance, be it acid, e, or nething . . . im sorry it happens. . . just better safe than sorry. . . << Oh HELL NO !!!! If I find out anyone on this list drives drunk. . . I'm gonna kick your ass !!! That is the stupidest thing any raver could possibly do. Sure, I can drive great (At least I think I do) frying balls whenever, I can drive great E'in my ass off, I can drive pretty good sorta Stoned, but the one time I drove drunk (I only had to go 4 blocks) I could not drive for nuthin, all swerving everywhere and I'm lucky the roads were empty. But PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT Drive drunk at all. . . alcohol is a horrible chemical, and seriously. . . if you're too drunk to drive, then don't. I mean, I'd feel horrible to know that I lost yet another person to alcohol, and it just isn't worth it to be brave. Even if you're buzzed. . . take extreme care and please use good judgement. I LoVUalL HUGZzzzz Aryck >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 01:46:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18477 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:46:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18466 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:46:19 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:46:19 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-219.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.219]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27143; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370FFEA0.F5C71C7B@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:45:04 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SpinDazE@aol.com CC: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad References: <6b3f7865.2441559a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I disagree with Angel (SpinDaze). I think driving drunk is a wonderful thing that too many people take for granted. It brings down the surplus human population. It adds a little excitement and danger in an otherwise very dull and boring life. It gives you a sense of paranoia when driving home late at night from a new years eve party and you happen to be sober because you know that there are like tons of drunk people all ready for you to swerve at and hit a mailbox. Just think twice before getting sober into a car from now on. =Paul*E*Wog SpinDazE@aol.com wrote: > > PLease, I think that a person should NOT drive while on ANY substance, be it > acid, e, or nething . . . im sorry it happens. . . just better safe than > sorry. . . > > << Oh HELL NO !!!! > > If I find out anyone on this list drives drunk. . . > I'm gonna kick your ass !!! > > That is the stupidest thing any raver could possibly do. Sure, I can > drive great (At least I think I do) frying balls whenever, I can drive great > E'in my ass off, I can drive pretty good sorta Stoned, but the one time I > drove drunk (I only had to go 4 blocks) I could not drive for nuthin, all > swerving everywhere and I'm lucky the roads were empty. > > But PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT > Drive drunk at all. . . alcohol is a horrible chemical, and seriously. . . > if > you're too drunk to drive, then don't. I mean, I'd feel horrible to know > that > I lost yet another person to alcohol, and it just isn't worth it to be > brave. > Even if you're buzzed. . . take extreme care and please use good judgement. > > I LoVUalL > > HUGZzzzz > > Aryck > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 01:48:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19613 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:48:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 19593 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:48:31 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:48:31 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vZZZa23597 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:47:36 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <1a4ea0c.24415938@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:47:36 EDT Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: WWoodliff@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I Don't believe I am hearing this! "I can drive great frying on E or while stoned but please no one drive drunk because that just wouldn't be right putting your life and others in jeopardy" What a bunch of adolescent, misguided, bullshit. If you are intoxicated in any shape or form you should have the maturity, respect for others and the respect for yourself to wait it out. I don't care if you "THINK" you are O.K. doing it. Get a clue, think about how many other things you think are O.K. or make sense while intoxicated. Doing drugs can be fun and enlightening but realize they are also very, very dangerous! Especially in the hands of people like you who nonchalantly throw the lives of yourself your friends and strangers out the window every time you get behind the wheel fucked up. For Gods sake party responsibly! Don't run out of the party thinking you can make it. And if you and all of your friends think you have to party like rock stars until the lights come on then be prepared before hand to sleep it off when you get to your car. And whatever you do don't let that best friend that you met three hours ago try to convince you that he's O.K. and hand over the responsibility to him/her. If you don't know that you are good enough to drive chances are your judgment is not good enough to tell if they are. I don't mean to sound like a preacher but for the grace of God I am here to share my knowledge with you today. Go out and have all the fun you can just be prepared and be responsible remember it wasn't drugs or lack of sleep that killed those kids a few weeks ago, it was an attitude that says "hey its only so far, I can make it." Nothing is worth taking that chance. Out of all the people in the world House/Rave culture has some of the most beautiful inspiring and enlightened people I have ever met. The world is going to shit fast and needs all the help it can get and the loss of even one of you, even though I may have never met you saddens me greatly. Please be safe and think ahead. Much Love JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 01:50:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21349 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:50:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 21338 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:50:31 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:50:31 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vAUGa12393; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:49:50 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <5e7a6dac.244159be@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:49:50 EDT Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: SpinDazE@aol.com, Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk is that why u drove me home last night after we smoked an 8th? Hypocrite...=P~ << PLease, I think that a person should NOT drive while on ANY substance, be it acid, e, or nething . . . im sorry it happens. . . just better safe than sorry. . . >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 01:52:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22793 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:52:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 22779 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:52:03 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:52:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411015433.8693.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.199.187] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:54:33 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:54:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: :) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 01:53:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24217 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:53:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 24194 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:53:14 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:53:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411015544.8965.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.199.187] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:55:44 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:55:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: CanContrl@aol.com, SpinDazE@aol.com, Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > is that why u drove me home last night after we > smoked an 8th? > Hypocrite...=P~ Yeah, hypocrite :p --- CanContrl@aol.com wrote: > << PLease, I think that a person should NOT drive > while on ANY substance, be > it > acid, e, or nething . . . im sorry it happens. . . > just better safe than > sorry. . . > >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 01:54:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25079 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:54:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 25056 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:54:42 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:54:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411015400.18110.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.201.49] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:54:00 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:54:00 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: Paul*E*Wog , SpinDazE@aol.com Cc: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk fuck you. fuck your mom. fuck your little "I'm-here-to-piss-people-off-and-see-how-far-i-can-get" prissy junior high school attidute. say that shit to my face and you better be backing it up with more than words, Mister looking for shit and will find it in places he least expects. carry on. --- Paul*E*Wog wrote: > I disagree with Angel (SpinDaze). I think driving > drunk is a wonderful > thing that too many people take for granted. It > brings down the surplus > human population. It adds a little excitement and > danger in an otherwise > very dull and boring life. It gives you a sense of > paranoia when driving > home late at night from a new years eve party and > you happen to be sober > because you know that there are like tons of drunk > people all ready for > you to swerve at and hit a mailbox. > > Just think twice before getting sober into a car > from now on. > > =Paul*E*Wog > > SpinDazE@aol.com wrote: > > > > PLease, I think that a person should NOT drive > while on ANY substance, be it > > acid, e, or nething . . . im sorry it happens. . > . just better safe than > > sorry. . . > > > > << Oh HELL NO !!!! > > > > If I find out anyone on this list drives > drunk. . . > > I'm gonna kick your ass > !!! > > > > That is the stupidest thing any raver > could possibly do. Sure, I can > > drive great (At least I think I do) frying balls > whenever, I can drive great > > E'in my ass off, I can drive pretty good sorta > Stoned, but the one time I > > drove drunk (I only had to go 4 blocks) I could > not drive for nuthin, all > > swerving everywhere and I'm lucky the roads were > empty. > > > > But PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT > > Drive drunk at all. . . alcohol is a horrible > chemical, and seriously. . . > > if > > you're too drunk to drive, then don't. I mean, > I'd feel horrible to know > > that > > I lost yet another person to alcohol, and it just > isn't worth it to be > > brave. > > Even if you're buzzed. . . take extreme care and > please use good judgement. > > > > I LoVUalL > > > > HUGZzzzz > > > > Aryck > > >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 01:57:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26602 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 01:57:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26590 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 01:57:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 01:57:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 46691 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 01:56:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411015649.46690.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.78 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:56:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.78] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:56:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i disagree with paul and agree with angel totally. it's soo not good drive on any substance. yeah, it's exciting, but it's not worth the risk to put your own life and other's lives in danger. it's not fair to yourself, and it's definetely not fair to others. should other people be put at risk for your own excitement?!?!? besides, why would you want to waste your high doing something like driving? hope everyone drives safely home tonight and every night. love LuSh SnOOpiE >From: Paul*E*Wog >To: SpinDazE@aol.com >CC: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad >Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:45:04 -0700 > >I disagree with Angel (SpinDaze). I think driving drunk is a wonderful >thing that too many people take for granted. It brings down the surplus >human population. It adds a little excitement and danger in an otherwise >very dull and boring life. It gives you a sense of paranoia when driving >home late at night from a new years eve party and you happen to be sober >because you know that there are like tons of drunk people all ready for >you to swerve at and hit a mailbox. > >Just think twice before getting sober into a car from now on. > >=Paul*E*Wog > >SpinDazE@aol.com wrote: >> >> PLease, I think that a person should NOT drive while on ANY substance, be it >> acid, e, or nething . . . im sorry it happens. . . just better safe than >> sorry. . . >> >> << Oh HELL NO !!!! >> >> If I find out anyone on this list drives drunk. . . >> I'm gonna kick your ass !!! >> >> That is the stupidest thing any raver could possibly do. Sure, I can >> drive great (At least I think I do) frying balls whenever, I can drive great >> E'in my ass off, I can drive pretty good sorta Stoned, but the one time I >> drove drunk (I only had to go 4 blocks) I could not drive for nuthin, all >> swerving everywhere and I'm lucky the roads were empty. >> >> But PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT >> Drive drunk at all. . . alcohol is a horrible chemical, and seriously. . . >> if >> you're too drunk to drive, then don't. I mean, I'd feel horrible to know >> that >> I lost yet another person to alcohol, and it just isn't worth it to be >> brave. >> Even if you're buzzed. . . take extreme care and please use good judgement. >> >> I LoVUalL >> >> HUGZzzzz >> >> Aryck >> >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 02:01:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 575 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 02:01:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 562 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 02:01:30 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 02:01:30 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3OAEa20623 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:00:50 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:00:50 EDT Subject: NRR: Snow To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Today..I went snowboarding. IN a little window of time I managed to elude the storm gods and make it safely to the mountains and back. ANd let me tell every single one of you...... IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. and now let me tell you why. All day long it was snowing... and I've been in snow a lot before, including when it's actually falling from the sky, but never like this. There weren't a lot of people there, probably because of the shady weather conditions, but aside from being on a mountain mostly alone, I could see every single snowflake. usually it just looks like little white pieces of fluff falling on me, but I could actually make out the shapes of stars and crystals of every flake. And they really are all different!! I was so amazed.. I've never actually seen a snow flake in that form before, and there were SO MANY of them. It was incredible. So that is my metaphor for you... GO my little snowflakes and be individuals and make my world a little more beautiful. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 02:05:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2645 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 02:05:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 2633 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 02:05:25 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 02:05:25 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vIFHa07515 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:04:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:04:47 EDT Subject: Re: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I refer to my previous post several days ago. Welcome back Paul E Wog. And again, no one should take his posts seriously. Can no one else see the sarcasm in his posts? Why are people so one dimensional? Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 02:10:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5191 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 02:10:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 5177 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 02:10:54 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 02:10:54 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vDBTa17882 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <22076f74.24415e87@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:10:15 EDT Subject: Re: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!!:( sad To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: WWoodliff@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HA! HA! HA! All you can do is just sit back and laugh picturing someone getting furious over something that is so obviously sarcastic. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 02:14:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6283 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 02:14:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 6275 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 02:14:30 -0000 Received: from m1.jersey.juno.com (209.67.33.60) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 02:14:30 -0000 Received: (from supahstah@juno.com) by m1.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D7VYDUU3; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:14:08 EDT To: gherbst@home.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:13:05 -0700 Subject: Re: (late) Children of the Sun review... Message-ID: <19990410.191306.-171951.1.supahstah@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3,8,11,13,15,18-21,23-143 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Super Star Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk gEoff ;), sorry to hear that you didn't like that party so much. but i was really happy to see you, it's been a LONG time! Well, i must agree that some of the partygoers at children of the sun weren't your normal crowd for a ug party, but i still had a great time children of the sun are a great organization, bringing free fruit and lemonade to parties and last year they threw a party to raise money for Christina Williams (the monterey girl who was murdered). I think they derserve a pat on the back. i had oodles of fun at this party. (but, yeah, that roof is on fire crap was silly) i personally like that location a lot. i've only been to great parties there. but i think they need to put the dj on the floor rather than the stage since it bounces. It's worked out that way before. Chris really is fabulous for helping that girl... he said she's doing alright now (he thinks) He has a heart of gold. I have lots o' admiration for him... i mean how many of us would leave a party to take a stranger to the hopital? what an angel... ^i^ anyhoo, it was a fun party and i just ignored the silly fuckedup kids who kept trying to make cricles to dance in. so, i had a good time... i mean, what's the point of going out if you don't have fun? okay, take care... Jo :O) On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:41:11 -0700 "Geoff Herbst" writes: >what a weird ass party! > >Sorry this is late in coming, but I've been on the road... but this >party >definitely needs a review. > >First major props to Chris... it really warmed Skye and my heart (and >those >around us) to see >you, a total stranger to the girl who had obviously taken too much of >something, show total compassion >and care for her... from the "hey are you OK" to going to the >hospital with >her (and the bathroom with her) >when it became obvious that she was in some need of some help..... >super >reaffirming in humanity type stuff... > >what a weird ass party! We had heard cool things about it... about >shuttling, UG location, well put together type >stuff... so we bought tix and headed over. Parked at 2nd and >Cartheft, >hopped into the van. Really nice driver, >kind of spyish to be shuttled around. The driver said that the crew >had >been working on this party for a long time, >since FRIDAY. (HUH?) Oh well I thought it must've been a slip or a >mistake. Starting on a party one day before? >nah. > >Got to the location. My first time there (quite a feat to be said >for >partying in the bay area these days). there were >a lot of people. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE there. packed. Props >for the >freee drinks (tangonade?) the shuttling >and security portion was really well done. nice peeps, well >organized, well >executed. > >My question was... where the hell did those people come from? whats >up with >"the house... the house... the house is on >fire...... " and the "muther fuker yeaaaah yeaaaaaaah in yo face" >screaming >frat boys just got out of a bar crowd? you saw >them. as someone said... it is a BAD IDEA to combine E with >testosterone!!! >no Shit! another thing said... "such a funny drug... >e... while you're on it you love everyone around you, but are for >some >reason more inclined to be even more rude and pushy >around those same people". no kidding again. ;) the bouncy floor was >kind >of neat-but sounded like the DJs nightmare. > >At least we know that Thomas Trouble can scratch now eh? right in >the >middle of breakdowns several times the needles >lifted / skipped / scratched across the records.... ouch! > >but the wierdest thing was the people. It looked as if about 30% of >the >place were first time ravers, with no clue to what >anything is about, and REALLY high. High out of their heads. One >girl had >to go to the hospital. She had taken "roughnecks" >her friend Mo was a character too. This guy laying on the floor was >screaming up to people "Hey I'm Mo I'm high!!! I'm High!" >thanks Mo. we know. He then told us that he couldn't feel pain. as >he >banged his HEAD on the concrete floor 5 times in a row >to show us. Then he told us about the roughnecks, about how he (and >how he >told all his friends) about preloading his E-xperiene >with 5HTP, and by NOT eating for a whole day before. I'm sure this >"advice" >helped his friend go to the hospital. there were so many >more small groups of people, who screamed "outsider" or "I'm here for >the >drugs" that were high, reduced to babbling people sitting >in corners and on the floor. Inside the main area we had the >gangsters / >vanilla ice wanna bees that wanted to break, slam, spin, >and push all of us out of the way. It was not fun being there. > >The music? Andys set was pretty cool. Nice visuals I must add. the >Star >wars trailer was pretty cool. ;) Gregs set was >cool old skool and clean too. thomas? hmmgh. interesting. the >bouncing >floor must've made it hard... but there were a few >did he beat match that? mixes in there... ;) > >I know the girl going to the hospital held thiungs up with the >shuttles back >to the cars... understandable. But even up to the very >end when we left there were sweaty push people being very rude inside, >and >people so high as to be out of their minds laying on the carpet >in the chill area... and then there was Mo. > >I wonder what trade publication or magazine that the promoters placed >an add >in? I really wanna avoid that kind of crowd >at all future parties again! I still don't understand the "the >house..... >the house.... let the muther (*&ker burn) screaming" > >odd stuff > >heh > >thanks again Chris for taking the time and caring enough to take care >of the >girl... do the promoters have an update as to >why / what happened and if she's OK? > >gEoff ;) > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 02:26:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10633 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 02:26:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10624 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 02:26:34 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 02:26:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411022948.11997.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.199.187] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:29:48 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: mike bolger , Paul*E*Wog , SpinDazE@aol.com Cc: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Help Im lost, sometimes I forget where I am on this list, where am i???????? Lost Lost Lost Lost Lost --- mike bolger wrote: > fuck you. > > fuck your mom. > > fuck your little > "I'm-here-to-piss-people-off-and-see-how-far-i-can-get" > prissy junior > high school attidute. > > say that shit to my face and you better be backing > it up with more than > words, Mister looking for shit and will find it in > places he least > expects. > > carry on. > > > --- Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > I disagree with Angel (SpinDaze). I think driving > > drunk is a wonderful > > thing that too many people take for granted. It > > brings down the surplus > > human population. It adds a little excitement and > > danger in an otherwise > > very dull and boring life. It gives you a sense of > > paranoia when driving > > home late at night from a new years eve party and > > you happen to be sober > > because you know that there are like tons of drunk > > people all ready for > > you to swerve at and hit a mailbox. > > > > Just think twice before getting sober into a car > > from now on. > > > > =Paul*E*Wog > > > > SpinDazE@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > PLease, I think that a person should NOT drive > > while on ANY substance, be it > > > acid, e, or nething . . . im sorry it happens. > . > > . just better safe than > > > sorry. . . > > > > > > << Oh HELL NO !!!! > > > > > > If I find out anyone on this list drives > > drunk. . . > > > I'm gonna kick your ass > > !!! > > > > > > That is the stupidest thing any raver > > could possibly do. Sure, I can > > > drive great (At least I think I do) frying > balls > > whenever, I can drive great > > > E'in my ass off, I can drive pretty good sorta > > Stoned, but the one time I > > > drove drunk (I only had to go 4 blocks) I could > > not drive for nuthin, all > > > swerving everywhere and I'm lucky the roads > were > > empty. > > > > > > But PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT > > > Drive drunk at all. . . alcohol is a horrible > > chemical, and seriously. . . > > > if > > > you're too drunk to drive, then don't. I mean, > > I'd feel horrible to know > > > that > > > I lost yet another person to alcohol, and it > just > > isn't worth it to be > > > brave. > > > Even if you're buzzed. . . take extreme care > and > > please use good judgement. > > > > > > I LoVUalL > > > > > > HUGZzzzz > > > > > > Aryck > > > >> > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 02:39:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14235 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 02:39:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14223 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 02:39:29 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 02:39:29 -0000 Received: from PlurDealer@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vTOKa17645 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:38:52 -0400 (EDT) From: PlurDealer@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:38:52 EDT Subject: Re: Re : NRR ORIGIN OF AIDS * Thanks everyone :) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: PlurDealer@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk <> I don't see whats so outrageous about laalkuchaa's post that it can't possibly be true. This bloke is simply stating that AIDS may have come from monkey blood. There is loads of scientific data to prove that. Doesn't make you a dummy if you believe that. luv and an omelette made with E The Plur dealer From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 02:42:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16135 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 02:42:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 16019 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 02:42:43 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 02:42:43 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.45] (spain-45.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.45]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA11926 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:42:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:47:14 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk MAZE TRIBAL TECHNO TRANCE A MONTHLY PARTY WORLD CLASS DJS STARTING IN MAY *proudly announced by the people who brought you San Francisco's most fun underground parties, the Silly series... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 02:45:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17064 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 02:45:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 17056 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 02:45:34 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 02:45:34 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vUZAa23591 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:44:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: <1f208242.2441669f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:44:47 EDT Subject: Re:NRR TeeHeeeHeeeHeeee To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you work too hard, there is never any time for her. If you don't work enough, you're a good-for-nothing bum. If she has a boring repetitive job with low pay, it's exploitation. If you have a boring repetitive job with low pay, you should get off your butt and find something better. If you get a promotion ahead of her, it's favoritism. If she gets a job ahead of you, it's equal opportunity. If you mention how nice she looks, it's sexual harassment. If you keep quiet, it's male indifference. If you make a decision without consulting her, you're a chauvinist. If she makes a decision without consulting you, she's a liberated woman. If you ask her to do something she doesn't enjoy, that's domination. If she asks you, it's a favor. If you try to keep yourself in shape, you're vain. If you don't, you're a slob. If you buy her flowers, you're after something. If you don't, you're not thoughtful. If you're proud of your achievements, you're an egotist. If you're not, you're not ambitious. If she has a headache, she's tired. If you have a headache, you don't love her anymore. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 02:58:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21772 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 02:58:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21761 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 02:58:50 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 02:58:50 -0000 Received: from PlurDealer@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vVYNa02490 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:58:16 -0400 (EDT) From: PlurDealer@aol.com Message-ID: <378a6731.244169c8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:58:16 EDT Subject: Re:NRR bright answers to dim questions To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: PlurDealer@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Since everyone's on a roll with their little joke spree I thought why not join in the festivities as well? And why not indeed? So sans further adieu, here is a list of answers to idiotic questions I often get asked at work and occasionally while at school. Dumb questions indians are often asked and correct answers for them. Q. Why do indian women wear red dots on their foreheads? A. Well, in ancient times, Indian men used to practice archery skills by aiming at their wife's red dot. In fact, that is one of the reasons why they had many wives. You see, once they mastered the art of archery and hit the target.... Q. You're from India? I have read so much about the country. All the wonderful places, the forests, the snake charmers, the elephants. Do you still use elephants for transportation? A. Absolutely. In fact we used to have our own elephant in our house. But later, we started participating in elephant-ride sharing schemes with our neighbors, to save the air. You see elephants have an "emissions" problem..... Q. Does India have cars? A. No. We ride elephants to work. The government is trying to encourageride-sharing schemes. Q. Does India have TV? A. No. We only have cable. Q. Are all Indians vegetarian? A. Yes. Even tigers are vegetarian in India. Q. How come you speak English so well? A. You see when the British were ruling India,they employed Indians as servants. It took too long for the Indians to learn English. So the British isolated an "English-language" gene and infused their servants' babies with it and since then all babies are born speaking English. Q. Are you a Hindi? A. Yes. I am spoken everyday in Northern India. Q. Do you speak Hindu? A. Yes, I also speak Judaism, Islam and Christianity. Q. Is it true that everyone there is very corrupt? A. Yes, in fact, I had to bribe my parents so that they would let me go to school. Q. India is very hot, isn't it? A. It is so hot there that all the water boils spontaneously. That is why tea is such a popular drink in India. Q. Are there any business companies in India? A. No. All Indians live on the Gandhian prinicples of self- sufficiency. We all make our own clothes and grow our own food. That is why you see all these thin skinny Indians -- it is a lot of hard work. Q. Indians cannot eat beef, huh? A. Cows provide milk which is a very essential part of Indian diet. So eating cows is forbidden. However in order to decrease the population of the country, the government is trying to encourage everyone to eat human meat. Q. India is such a religious place. Do you meditate regularly? A. Yes, sometimes I meditate for weeks without food and drink. But it is difficult to keep my job, because I have to miss work when I meditate like that. But the bosses there do the same thing. That is why things are so inefficient there. Q. I saw on TV that people there walk on burning coals. Why do they do that? A. We don't have shoes. So we burn the botton of our feet to make it hard, so that we can walk. Q. Why do you sometimes wear Indian clothes to work? A. I prefer it to coming naked. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 04:23:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19310 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 04:23:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19294 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 04:23:38 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 04:23:38 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.95) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:27:10 -0800 Message-ID: <371023CE.D2FCF2C3@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:23:43 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad References: <5e7a6dac.244159be@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk like i always say. a good driver is a relaxed driver. :) paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 05:40:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10658 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 05:40:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 10649 invoked by uid 233); 11 Apr 1999 05:40:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 7929 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 05:29:15 -0000 Received: from law-f173.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.236) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 05:29:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 25408 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 05:28:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411052849.25407.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:28:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: red_stickman@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: talk@warmth.org Subject: Re: NRR: whistle blowing and my work Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:28:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know, with "whistle blowing" and "work" in the subject line, I thought you were going to talk about something *completely* different! I didn't expect you to mean *literally* whistle blowing... hehehe tweet tweet, Wayne ---------- >From: The Red Stickman >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >CC: talk@warmth.org >Subject: NRR: whistle blowing and my work >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 23:27:22 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi! > >I'm totally delerious from sleep deprivation, and I >was thinking about "The Andy Griffith Show" for some >reason (y'know the theme song) and I remembered about >something that happenned to me at work yesterday >(shows you just how wacked my mind is): there's this >door at work that squeaks when it shuts. But it >doesn't squeak in a normal door-squeaky fashion: it >squeaks like a raver blowing a whistle at a party! > >Well, sort of. > >The raver whistle that I hear most commonly at parties >goes like, "tweet-tweet! tweet-tweet-tweet!" > >The door goes: "tweet-tweet!" and I catch myself >finishing it with "tweet-tweet-tweet!" out loud. >Everyone thinks I'm nuts. :D > >:P >michael >o)-< >the sleep-deprived stickman > >"if you and I were squirrels..." >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 06:09:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20016 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 06:08:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 20001 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 06:08:57 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 06:08:57 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-17.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.17]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA28198 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990411044140.006bc738@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:41:40 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: NRR lots of thing in one email.. Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok so I 'm gonna start bets..How long will it be before PaulE wog gets into another flame war with the ppl on the list..? My bet is 2 and 1/2 weeks..anyone else? Hehe "Fuck! Piercings are so mainstream now. The piercing scene was better back the day, when it was all UG. It's all the fault of those greedy, money hungry, massive shops marketing to mall crawling Amerika. The vibe is just not the same any more. It used to be that if somebody had a tongue piercing, or even a belly ring, you could talk to them about any piercing, and the wouldn't say "Eew! Like that is so tottaly gross. Oh my God. They didn't say anything about those kind of piercings in Sassy." Look kyds it's not just the rave scene that goes UG v. Massive?!?!?! It's piercing too.. I wonder what else we can do UG v. Massive....(for example) Back in the early 90's a hair weave was so much cheaper...but now you got everyone and their mama with a fake weave. And then to even get your hair done in a shop it's like $95-$300 whereas if i got it done at like my friend's sister's second baby's daddy's mamma it would be like 65 dollars and her shit look tight. Or you can use someothe topic and insert it in... Maybe we should make a SFR Disco Bowling group nite. I think it would be fun to bowl to b00ty house, and bowling shoes do look cute. Eventually we could take over the sound system and put mixtapes in and just have everyone rave and bowl. Then that would end up like some wierd twisted scene in Grease 2 ( the scene where they are dancing in the bowLing center... spinning with balls in their hand..sounds like something i did last nite..."we're gonna scoore scoore scoore tonite!") so anyway rave bowling sounds fun, i know there must be some bowling freaks out there cuz bowling is kewl...and if you think it's geeky then..well think of it this way...you already on a electronic mailing list :P Geek is so in right now.!?!? just look in sassy magazine! Ok anyway imma end my spiel. GOOD NITE GOOD FIGHT! Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 06:10:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20807 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 06:10:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20765 invoked by uid 233); 11 Apr 1999 06:10:00 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: WWoodliff@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad In-Reply-To: <1a4ea0c.24415938@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk JonPaul said everything I was going to say! People who drive home on drugs or drunk once and get away with it are LUCKY SHITS. People who do it on a regular basis are DUMB SHITS. Drugs alter your mind. Drinking alters your mind. Most drugs alter your ability to react to split-second actions, such as car accidents (or the possibility thereof). Psychedelics mess with your psyche and concept of reality. And somehow, with all these facts, people still think they're "good to drive" while on E or Acid? It would terrify me to know I was driving home on the same roads as these people! If you can't have the respect for your own life, please have it for others, for I don't know anyone who would be OK with their loved ones getting killed by a reckless E-baby behind the wheel because "I drive great when I'm E'ing/Frying balls!" You may feel confident being behind the wheel but for all you know it is an illusion. Designated Drivers are NOT A NEW CONCEPT people! They're out there too! I'll offer my services if I have to, I'll come pick your fucked up asses up and drive you home, although I'd rather everyone be a responsible raver and at least secure a sober drive home yourselves. At the very worst you end up having to be the designated driver yourself and believe me you'll feel alot better knowing that you and your friends will have a higher chance of getting home than before. Just because you're not dead, or behind bars because of a DUI as of yet doesn't mean it'll never happen. YOu never know until it's too late, and you're dead because you got behind the wheel fucked up, thinking you were OK to drive... Or worse yet, you could kill someone else. I don't know of ANY legit excuse to get behind the wheel while fucked up on Acid or E or Alcohol or whatever, and that's why I'm so vocal about it on this list. That's all I have to say , except DRIVE SAFELY please! And if you can't do that for yourselves, or in consideration for others, STAY HOME. Or, secure a ride. Love, Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 WWoodliff@aol.com wrote: > I Don't believe I am hearing this! "I can drive great frying on E or while > stoned but please no one drive drunk because that just wouldn't be right > putting your life and others in jeopardy" What a bunch of adolescent, > misguided, bullshit. If you are intoxicated in any shape or form you should > have the maturity, respect for others and the respect for yourself to wait it > out. I don't care if you "THINK" you are O.K. doing it. Get a clue, think > about how many other things you think are O.K. or make sense while > intoxicated. Doing drugs can be fun and enlightening but realize they are > also very, very dangerous! Especially in the hands of people like you who > nonchalantly throw the lives of yourself your friends and strangers out the > window every time you get behind the wheel fucked up. For Gods sake party > responsibly! Don't run out of the party thinking you can make it. And if > you and all of your friends think you have to party like rock stars until the > lights come on then be prepared before hand to sleep it off when you get to > your car. And whatever you do don't let that best friend that you met three > hours ago try to convince you that he's O.K. and hand over the responsibility > to him/her. If you don't know that you are good enough to drive chances are > your judgment is not good enough to tell if they are. I don't mean to sound > like a preacher but for the grace of God I am here to share my knowledge with > you today. Go out and have all the fun you can just be prepared and be > responsible remember it wasn't drugs or lack of sleep that killed those kids > a few weeks ago, it was an attitude that says "hey its only so far, I can > make it." Nothing is worth taking that chance. Out of all the people in the > world House/Rave culture has some of the most beautiful inspiring and > enlightened people I have ever met. The world is going to shit fast and > needs all the help it can get and the loss of even one of you, even though I > may have never met you saddens me greatly. Please be safe and think ahead. > > Much Love JonPaul > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 06:15:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22534 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 06:15:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 22523 invoked by uid 233); 11 Apr 1999 06:15:01 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:15:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: Nuku cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR lots of thing in one email.. In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990411044140.006bc738@apollo.sfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What/!??! Being a dork is finally cool???!?!??!?!?!??!! I'm COOL NOW?!??! This can't be true!!!! :D I think a SFR bowling night would be COOL! Though I don't know of any bowling alleys that would tolerate us taking over the PA. :) Nor tolerate my disgusting inability to bowl :) Well anyhoo. I have to go practice my dork skills so I can be even cooler ;) ;) Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Nuku wrote: > Ok so I 'm gonna start bets..How long will it be before PaulE wog gets into > another flame war with the ppl on the list..? My bet is 2 and 1/2 > weeks..anyone else? Hehe > > "Fuck! Piercings are so mainstream now. The piercing scene was > better back the day, when it was all UG. It's all the fault of those > greedy, money > hungry, massive shops marketing to mall crawling Amerika. The vibe is just > not the same any more. It used to be that if somebody had a tongue > piercing, or even a belly ring, you could talk to them about any piercing, > and the wouldn't say "Eew! Like that is so tottaly gross. Oh my God. They > didn't say anything about those kind of piercings in Sassy." > > Look kyds it's not just the rave scene that goes UG v. Massive?!?!?! It's > piercing too.. I wonder what else we can do UG v. Massive....(for example) > Back in the early 90's a hair weave was so much cheaper...but now you got > everyone and their mama with a fake weave. And then to even get your hair > done in a shop it's like $95-$300 whereas if i got it done at like my > friend's sister's second baby's daddy's mamma it would be like 65 dollars > and her shit look tight. Or you can use someothe topic and insert it in... > > Maybe we should make a SFR Disco Bowling group nite. I think it would be fun > to bowl to b00ty house, and bowling shoes do look cute. Eventually we could > take over the sound system and put mixtapes in and just have everyone rave > and bowl. Then that would end up like some wierd twisted scene in Grease 2 > ( the scene where they are dancing in the bowLing center... spinning with > balls in their hand..sounds like something i did last nite..."we're gonna > scoore scoore scoore tonite!") > so anyway rave bowling sounds fun, i know there must be some bowling freaks > out there cuz bowling is kewl...and if you think it's geeky then..well think > of it this way...you already on a electronic mailing list :P Geek is so in > right now.!?!? just look in sassy magazine! > > Ok anyway imma end my spiel. > GOOD NITE GOOD FIGHT! > > Nuku > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 06:28:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26490 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 06:28:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 26462 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 06:28:48 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 06:28:48 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id oGBVa02489; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 02:27:31 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <8ae4fb8f.24419ad3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 02:27:31 EDT Subject: a word about "the underground" To: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok...... i have a question for the dood who was talkin about piercing and the underground? what makes u think like the underground is soooooo cool, i goto raves all the time, i spin (dnb, proggressive, downtempo, hardhouse) and i consider myself a normal person. i think all that underground stuff is bullshit for people who dont feel liked by society or feel they are not "cool" enough for everyone else and do it for some sense of security and feeling that everyone else looks up to them cuz they've got a metal ball in thier chin. im sorry that mainstream society has taken away your only way to be liked by everyone else but maybe u should goto the gap and buy a pair of kakhis and a nice sweater, you'll find people will like u just like that too :] -ralph From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 06:33:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28891 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 06:33:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 28879 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 06:33:30 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 06:33:30 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-17.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.17]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA29100 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990411050614.006ce0c8@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:06:14 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: a word about "the underground" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It has begun! Flamer Combat! [enter mortal combat theme song] Boy o boy I need to do my paper... Nuku At 02:27 AM 4/11/99 EDT, you wrote: >ok...... i have a question for the dood who was talkin about piercing and the >underground? what makes u think like the underground is soooooo cool, i goto >raves all the time, i spin (dnb, proggressive, downtempo, hardhouse) and i >consider myself a normal person. i think all that underground stuff is >bullshit for people who dont feel liked by society or feel they are not >"cool" enough for everyone else and do it for some sense of security and >feeling that everyone else looks up to them cuz they've got a metal ball in >thier chin. im sorry that mainstream society has taken away your only way to >be liked by everyone else but maybe u should goto the gap and buy a pair of >kakhis and a nice sweater, you'll find people will like u just like that too >:] > >-ralph > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 06:42:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2491 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 06:42:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 2481 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 06:42:04 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 06:42:04 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA25356 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990410234445.007f6510@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:44:45 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Belated Discovery Review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a few days late.... but I've been slightly busy and havent been able to even *gasp* check my email since Thursday afternoon... eek! Anyways... Discovery was a wonderful evening... congrats to Raoul and the rest of the North Bay crew. The crowd was an interesting but good mix... and the music was great. Especially Logik... this was the first time I've heard him spin when I actually knew it was him spinnning.... and he is great!!! Mars and Mystere spun their token "greatest hits"... but they still had some variety and kept me dancing. Walker v. Wilbur were great too... they always have so much enthusiasm when they spin... I love that!!! But Logik's set was definately my favorite...Sadly, I could only make it through half of his set before dying of exhaustion. I am still sore from the crazy dancing I did that night. And... I too had to go to school the next morning... ick. But my poor friends who came up all the way from Sac from the party had to drive back to Sac at 5:00 am because they all had to be at work early Friday morning... and even they agreed this party was worth the drive. Anyways... Discovery was great. I hope to see more events like this in the future. Its nice to see great DJs and a good location for a great price. Its definately worth another drive to Santa Rosa. Love, Carly :) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 06:44:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3690 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 06:44:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 3680 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 06:44:35 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.156) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 06:44:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 2808 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 06:44:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411064408.2807.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.149.6 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:44:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.149.6] From: "d u m a" To: maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, cloud9nine@rocketmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: DJ Wild Child Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:44:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oo shit she's a hottie :)~ veanne From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: cherri-bomb CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: DJ Wild Child Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:48:59 -0700 (PDT) yoyoyoyo gramma whass kickin Wildchild is not dead. she just went on a super brief (two dates in Ohio) Us tour earlier this year with another woman DJ from the UK called Jojo Rock. Wildchild is pretty goddamn attractive, and likes to wear fresh sporty gear and gold chains. I have pictures of the both of them, care of my friend in Cleveland the one like Top Secret Gill. check it: http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~maxmcc/wildchild wheeeee! See you at eklektic, that'swhatI'mtalkn'bout and Audio Impact. 10-4, duh, max On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, cherri-bomb wrote: > hi, > I'm wondering if anyone knows about DJ Wild Child (emma weaver?). I've > heard a lot of her stuff, but never anything about her. Someone said > they thought she was dead [???] but as far as i've heard she's still > around London, working on stuff. Can anyone clarify? > Thanks! > ~cb > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 07:00:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10246 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 07:00:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 10222 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 07:00:47 -0000 Received: from wya-oe2.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 07:00:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 99672 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 07:00:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411070044.99671.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.149.6 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:00:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.149.6] From: "d u m a" To: ejthadj@hotmail.com, Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: mars&mystere (was Fav DJ's?) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:00:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk jfc, and that is what, every weekend??? i was listening to a mixtape in the car today note on up and coming dj's *IKON* plays the same stuff mars and mystere play, but hey if you wanna check out a cute asian girlie with dope mixing skills check her out. same songs, different mix.. but hey what do i know about trance, i listen to jungle :P veanne From: "Eric Baumgartner" To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:28:33 PDT All I can say, is if I ever see a rave, with Mars or Mystere there, I'm There, I have never heard so much built up energy from trance dj's at a rave. They really get you going. And they mix the best of the best stuff. But, I"M SURE, ya'll already knew that huh? EJ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.c Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 07:06:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13296 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 07:06:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 13286 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 07:06:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 07:06:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15752 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 07:05:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411070557.15751.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.78 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:05:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.78] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: poeie@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Fav DJs. Re: mars&mystere (was Fav DJ's?) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:05:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have to agree with you that icon is a fucking good dj. she's also hella cute and nice! other kick ass djs: ryan wilbur, logik, greg sandler, archangel (hawaii), evillyn (sf/hawaii), g-spot (chicago/hawaii) love LuSh SnOOpiE >From: "d u m a" >To: ejthadj@hotmail.com, Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: mars&mystere (was Fav DJ's?) >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:00:43 PDT > >jfc, and that is what, every weekend??? > >i was listening to a mixtape in the car today >note on up and coming dj's >*IKON* >plays the same stuff mars and mystere play, but hey if you wanna check >out a cute asian girlie with dope mixing skills check her out. >same songs, different mix.. but hey what do i know about trance, i >listen to jungle :P > >veanne > > >From: "Eric Baumgartner" >To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? >Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:28:33 PDT > >All I can say, is if I ever see a rave, with Mars or Mystere there, >I'm There, I have never heard so much built up energy from trance dj's >at a rave. They really get you going. And they mix the best of the >best stuff. But, I"M SURE, ya'll already knew that huh? >EJ > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.c > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 07:11:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15062 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 07:11:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 15050 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 07:11:02 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 07:11:02 -0000 Received: from Juju0322@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vABPa07519 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Juju0322@aol.com Message-ID: <251ce4b3.2441a4cb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:10:03 EDT Subject: Re: cutie Dj's To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ummmm....can we say space girl, wow, a pretty damn hott chick right there for you, then her skill, hell yeah, i belive she is from the UK, but i saw her spin out in the south east (asheville, NC) -Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 07:11:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15547 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 07:11:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 15391 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 07:11:10 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 07:11:10 -0000 Received: from BeTTaViBe@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vTJZa02489 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: BeTTaViBe@aol.com Message-ID: <6ab7321b.2441a4e2@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:10:26 EDT Subject: IM looking for this song ! READ This PLease ! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: BeTTaViBe@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if anyone has this song i will pay about 30-40$ for it on Vinyl..im REALLY REALLY lokking for this..maybe we can work soemthing out..!PLEASE Song is called : ELLOCO By: Powder Producitons Label: Glasgow the goes " Jump up....Jump up.........Jump Up......Jump up in De air !.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 07:23:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20749 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 07:23:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 20738 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 07:23:56 -0000 Received: from wya-oe3.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 07:23:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 39331 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 07:23:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411072346.39330.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.149.40 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:23:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.149.40] From: "ve anne" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: HAk&SiPHON on KALX 90.7FM Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:23:46 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DJ'S HAK AND SIPHON aka URBAN GHETTO BOOTY ASS.AULT :) ON KALX 90.7FM APRIL 11th/12th MIDNIGHT(sunday night monday morning baby) if you love good jungle... Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 07:48:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28033 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 07:48:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28024 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 07:48:49 -0000 Received: from f208.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.99) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 07:48:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 85576 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 07:48:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411074821.85575.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:48:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Everyone wants to be a DJ, eh? Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:48:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Everyone wants to be a DJ, eh? Apparently now you can, thanks to the magic of streaming mp3 technology: http://www.salon1999.com/tech/feature/1999/04/09/shoutcast/index.html ---------- Feel free to ignore the ad for MSN that gets stuck on the next line. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 12:21:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26166 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 12:21:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 26145 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 12:21:32 -0000 Received: from dragon.ulink.net (209.160.21.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 12:21:32 -0000 Received: from ulink.net (max1-36.ulink.net [209.160.21.36]) by dragon.ulink.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id 2KBRQJPX; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:21:43 -0700 Message-ID: <371092F7.79F550A1@ulink.net> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:17:59 -0700 From: Dragn'fly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nuku CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR lots of thing in one email.. References: <1.5.4.32.19990411044140.006bc738@apollo.sfsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Nuku wrote: > Ok so I 'm gonna start bets..How long will it be before PaulE wog gets into > another flame war with the ppl on the list..? My bet is 2 and 1/2 > weeks..anyone else? Hehe > > "Fuck! Piercings are so mainstream now. The piercing scene was > better back the day, when it was all UG. What the hell are you talking about??? I got my first "real piercings" back in 1988 or 1989 at Body Manipulations on the Haight. That was over 11 years ago!!! By no means were they UG. They were on the friggin' street taking Visa and Mastercard!!!! > It's all the fault of those greedy, money hungry, massive shops marketing to > mall crawling Amerika. The vibe is just not the same any more. What the heck does "vibe" have to do with peircings???? A piercing is a personal experience and at least for me, a "vibe" is something more on a communal level. > It used to be that if somebody had a tongue piercing, or even a belly ring, > you could talk to them about any piercing, and the wouldn't say "Eew! Like > that is so tottaly gross. Oh my God. They didn't say anything about those kind > of piercings in Sassy." So you thought that piercings were cool as long as Sally the neighbor thought that they were grody, heh??? Why not think of it as society becoming more enlightened??? > Look kyds it's not just the rave scene that goes UG v. Massive?!?!?! It's > piercing too.. I wonder what else we can do UG v. Massive....(for example) > Back in the early 90's a hair weave was so much cheaper...but now you got > everyone and their mama with a fake weave. And then to even get your hair > done in a shop it's like $95-$300 whereas if i got it done at like my > friend's sister's second baby's daddy's mamma it would be like 65 dollars > and her shit look tight. Or you can use someothe topic and insert it in... > > Maybe we should make a SFR Disco Bowling group nite. I think it would be fun > to bowl to b00ty house, and bowling shoes do look cute. Eventually we could > take over the sound system and put mixtapes in and just have everyone rave > and bowl. Then that would end up like some wierd twisted scene in Grease 2 > ( the scene where they are dancing in the bowLing center... spinning with > balls in their hand..sounds like something i did last nite..."we're gonna > scoore scoore scoore tonite!") > so anyway rave bowling sounds fun, i know there must be some bowling freaks > out there cuz bowling is kewl...and if you think it's geeky then..well think > of it this way...you already on a electronic mailing list :P Geek is so in > right now.!?!? just look in sassy magazine! > > Ok anyway imma end my spiel. > GOOD NITE GOOD FIGHT! > > Nuku Ooooooh....... dina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 13:09:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9060 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 13:08:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 9050 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 13:08:55 -0000 Received: from mail-gw5.pacbell.net (206.13.28.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 13:08:55 -0000 Received: from fiveartists.com (ppp-206-170-29-68.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.29.68]) by mail-gw5.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id GAA09988 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 06:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37109DFB.AF025141@fiveartists.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 06:05:00 -0700 From: Nemo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: TiCkLe! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------62E3B7841528CF781152774C" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --------------62E3B7841528CF781152774C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit heeeeeeeeey, just got back from tickle... cuz we had 2 leave early. it was a GREAT party though. i bought Thomas Trouble's new mixtape, an' it's BAAAADD ASS!! OMG! AARON! it has the titanic mix AND the Robert Miles REMIX!! AAAAH!! i also brought a friend of mine from Stockton and he TOTALLY had a good time. okie, i think i'm gonna sleep now. PLUR- A N T O N the Panda Boy Anna, where are you... ? --------------62E3B7841528CF781152774C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit heeeeeeeeey, just got back from tickle... cuz we had 2 leave early.
it was a GREAT party though.
i bought Thomas Trouble's new mixtape, an' it's BAAAADD ASS!!  OMG!
AARON! it has the titanic mix AND the Robert Miles REMIX!!  AAAAH!!
i also brought a friend of mine from Stockton and he TOTALLY had a good time.
okie, i think i'm gonna sleep now.
PLUR-

A     N     T     O     N
the Panda Boy

Anna, where are you... ? --------------62E3B7841528CF781152774C-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 13:13:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11030 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 13:13:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 11015 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 13:13:10 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 13:13:10 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7W5299H; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:12:27 EDT To: Juju0322@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:47:07 -0700 Subject: Re: cutie Dj's Message-ID: <19990411.054709.6310.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> References: <251ce4b3.2441a4cb@aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-19 From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I believe she is from Holland. Never thought I'd be marrying someone from Holland, but that just goes to show, you never know. She doesn't know this yet, but she will! hehe =) -elias smythe <<-MHz->> <> http://www.MHz.nu 415-395-8448 We eat candy ravers for breakfast... On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:10:03 EDT Juju0322@aol.com writes: >ummmm....can we say space girl, wow, a pretty damn hott chick right >there for >you, then her skill, hell yeah, i belive she is from the UK, but i saw >her >spin out in the south east (asheville, NC) >-Stephanie Marie- > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 16:01:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29161 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 16:01:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 29145 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 16:01:33 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 16:01:33 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-65.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.65]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA09906; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990411143413.006bac2c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:34:13 -0500 To: "Dragn'fly" From: Nuku Subject: Re: NRR lots of thing in one email.. Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Lemme clarify this..this was a quote from another email that i found amusing..ive no idea about UG piercings or what not. :P nyah nyah Nuku >> >> "Fuck! Piercings are so mainstream now. The piercing scene was >> better back the day, when it was all UG. > >What the hell are you talking about??? I got my first "real piercings" back in >1988 or 1989 at Body Manipulations on the Haight. That was over 11 years ago!!! >By no means were they UG. They were on the friggin' street taking Visa and >Mastercard!!!! > >> It's all the fault of those greedy, money hungry, massive shops marketing to >> mall crawling Amerika. The vibe is just not the same any more. > >What the heck does "vibe" have to do with peircings???? A piercing is a >personal experience and at least for me, a "vibe" is something more on a >communal level. > >> It used to be that if somebody had a tongue piercing, or even a belly ring, >> you could talk to them about any piercing, and the wouldn't say "Eew! Like >> that is so tottaly gross. Oh my God. They didn't say anything about those kind >> of piercings in Sassy." > >So you thought that piercings were cool as long as Sally the neighbor thought >that they were grody, heh??? Why not think of it as society becoming more >enlightened??? > > >Ooooooh....... >dina > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 16:15:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2497 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 16:15:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 2487 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 16:15:02 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 16:15:02 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vLZQa02490; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:14:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <1d6065ab.2442244c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:14:04 EDT Subject: Re: cutie Dj's To: Juju0322@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/11/99 3:11:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Juju0322@aol.com writes: << ummmm....can we say space girl, wow, a pretty damn hott chick right there for you, then her skill, hell yeah, i belive she is from the UK, but i saw her spin out in the south east (asheville, NC) -Stephanie Marie- >> i thought spacegirl was from Russia??? MEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 17:21:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18527 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 17:21:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 18502 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 17:21:20 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 17:21:20 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7XK9MLZ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:20:35 EDT To: poeie@hotmail.com Cc: ejthadj@hotmail.com, Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:22:12 -0700 Subject: Re: mars&mystere (was Fav DJ's?) Message-ID: <19990411.102352.-55465.1.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah Icon is tha shit, I saw her at Pyramids and warmth. Very dope girl. Peace, Theresa On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:00:43 PDT "d u m a" writes: >jfc, and that is what, every weekend??? > >i was listening to a mixtape in the car today >note on up and coming dj's >*IKON* >plays the same stuff mars and mystere play, but hey if you wanna check > >out a cute asian girlie with dope mixing skills check her out. >same songs, different mix.. but hey what do i know about trance, i >listen to jungle :P > >veanne > > >From: "Eric Baumgartner" >To: Space201@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Fav DJ's??? >Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:28:33 PDT > >All I can say, is if I ever see a rave, with Mars or Mystere there, >I'm There, I have never heard so much built up energy from trance dj's > >at a rave. They really get you going. And they mix the best of the >best stuff. But, I"M SURE, ya'll already knew that huh? >EJ > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.c > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 17:21:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18843 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 17:21:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 18510 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 17:21:21 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 17:21:21 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7XK9MKX; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:20:35 EDT To: laraz@hyperreal.org Cc: WWoodliff@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:20:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad Message-ID: <19990411.102352.-55465.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6-10,12-132 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk See I agree w/ this about e, acid, alcohol, and all that, but as far as driving stoned, everyone I know who smokes drives better stoned, because since we got buds on us a pipe or whatever, they sure as hell don't want to get stopped, so they take precautions like driving 5 miles an hour and shit. Weed paranoia is good sometimes. That's the problem with drinking, when you're too fucked up you just act stupid and don't think before you do anything, which often will get you in trouble. Just my opinion. Peace, Theresa On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Lara writes: >JonPaul said everything I was going to say! > People who drive home on drugs or drunk once and get away with >it >are LUCKY SHITS. >People who do it on a regular basis are DUMB SHITS. > Drugs alter your mind. Drinking alters your mind. Most drugs >alter >your ability to react to split-second actions, such as car accidents >(or >the possibility thereof). Psychedelics mess with your psyche and >concept >of reality. And somehow, with all these facts, people still think >they're >"good to drive" while on E or Acid? >It would terrify me to know I was driving home on the same roads as >these >people! If you can't have the respect for your own life, please have >it >for others, for I don't know anyone who would be OK with their loved >ones >getting killed by a reckless E-baby behind the wheel because "I drive >great when I'm E'ing/Frying balls!" > You may feel confident being behind the wheel but for all you >know >it is an illusion. > Designated Drivers are NOT A NEW CONCEPT people! They're out >there >too! I'll offer my services if I have to, I'll come pick your fucked >up >asses up and drive you home, although I'd rather everyone be a >responsible >raver and at least secure a sober drive home yourselves. At the very >worst >you end up having to be the designated driver yourself and believe me >you'll feel alot better knowing that you and your friends will have a >higher chance of getting home than before. > Just because you're not dead, or behind bars because of a DUI >as >of yet doesn't mean it'll never happen. YOu never know until it's too >late, and you're dead because you got behind the wheel fucked up, >thinking >you were OK to drive... Or worse yet, you could kill someone else. > I don't know of ANY legit excuse to get behind the wheel >while >fucked up on Acid or E or Alcohol or whatever, and that's why I'm so >vocal >about it on this list. > That's all I have to say , except DRIVE SAFELY please! And if >you >can't do that for yourselves, or in consideration for others, STAY >HOME. >Or, secure a ride. >Love, >Lara > > >---- >"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." > -- Oscar Wilde > >On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 WWoodliff@aol.com wrote: > >> I Don't believe I am hearing this! "I can drive great frying on E >or while >> stoned but please no one drive drunk because that just wouldn't be >right >> putting your life and others in jeopardy" What a bunch of >adolescent, >> misguided, bullshit. If you are intoxicated in any shape or form >you should >> have the maturity, respect for others and the respect for yourself >to wait it >> out. I don't care if you "THINK" you are O.K. doing it. Get a >clue, think >> about how many other things you think are O.K. or make sense while >> intoxicated. Doing drugs can be fun and enlightening but realize >they are >> also very, very dangerous! Especially in the hands of people like >you who >> nonchalantly throw the lives of yourself your friends and strangers >out the >> window every time you get behind the wheel fucked up. For Gods sake >party >> responsibly! Don't run out of the party thinking you can make it. >And if >> you and all of your friends think you have to party like rock stars >until the >> lights come on then be prepared before hand to sleep it off when you >get to >> your car. And whatever you do don't let that best friend that you >met three >> hours ago try to convince you that he's O.K. and hand over the >responsibility >> to him/her. If you don't know that you are good enough to drive >chances are >> your judgment is not good enough to tell if they are. I don't mean >to sound >> like a preacher but for the grace of God I am here to share my >knowledge with >> you today. Go out and have all the fun you can just be prepared and >be >> responsible remember it wasn't drugs or lack of sleep that killed >those kids >> a few weeks ago, it was an attitude that says "hey its only so far, >I can >> make it." Nothing is worth taking that chance. Out of all the >people in the >> world House/Rave culture has some of the most beautiful inspiring >and >> enlightened people I have ever met. The world is going to shit fast >and >> needs all the help it can get and the loss of even one of you, even >though I >> may have never met you saddens me greatly. Please be safe and think >ahead. >> >> Much Love JonPaul >> > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 18:21:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8234 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 18:21:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 8221 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 18:21:24 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 18:21:24 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7XPQBZH; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:21:03 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:34:39 -0700 Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad Message-ID: <19990411.113449.3670.0.Trigometric@juno.com> References: <19990411.102352.-55465.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,6-164 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yup. I've driven home completely sloshed one time three years ago and it was the most horrible experience I've encountered without actually getting pulled over. That was the last time I did it. BUT........as for being stoned and driving, I do it all the time. I'm am more cautious when I'm baked and plus it's less mundane as driving sober. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:20:08 -0700 dadope@juno.com writes: >See I agree w/ this about e, acid, alcohol, and all that, but as far >as driving stoned, everyone I know who smokes drives better stoned, >because since we got buds on us a pipe or whatever, they sure as hell >don't want to get stopped, so they take precautions like driving 5 >miles an hour and shit. Weed paranoia is good sometimes. That's the >problem with drinking, when you're too fucked up you just act stupid >and don't think before you do anything, which often will get you in >trouble. Just my opinion. > >Peace, >Theresa > >On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Lara >writes: >>JonPaul said everything I was going to say! >> People who drive home on drugs or drunk once and get away >with >>it >>are LUCKY SHITS. >>People who do it on a regular basis are DUMB SHITS. >> Drugs alter your mind. Drinking alters your mind. Most drugs >>alter >>your ability to react to split-second actions, such as car accidents >>(or >>the possibility thereof). Psychedelics mess with your psyche and >>concept >>of reality. And somehow, with all these facts, people still think >>they're >>"good to drive" while on E or Acid? >>It would terrify me to know I was driving home on the same roads as >>these >>people! If you can't have the respect for your own life, please have >>it >>for others, for I don't know anyone who would be OK with their loved >>ones >>getting killed by a reckless E-baby behind the wheel because "I drive >>great when I'm E'ing/Frying balls!" >> You may feel confident being behind the wheel but for all you > >>know >>it is an illusion. >> Designated Drivers are NOT A NEW CONCEPT people! They're out >>there >>too! I'll offer my services if I have to, I'll come pick your fucked >>up >>asses up and drive you home, although I'd rather everyone be a >>responsible >>raver and at least secure a sober drive home yourselves. At the very >>worst >>you end up having to be the designated driver yourself and believe me >>you'll feel alot better knowing that you and your friends will have a >>higher chance of getting home than before. >> Just because you're not dead, or behind bars because of a DUI > >>as >>of yet doesn't mean it'll never happen. YOu never know until it's too >>late, and you're dead because you got behind the wheel fucked up, >>thinking >>you were OK to drive... Or worse yet, you could kill someone else. >> I don't know of ANY legit excuse to get behind the wheel >>while >>fucked up on Acid or E or Alcohol or whatever, and that's why I'm so >>vocal >>about it on this list. >> That's all I have to say , except DRIVE SAFELY please! And if > >>you >>can't do that for yourselves, or in consideration for others, STAY >>HOME. >>Or, secure a ride. >>Love, >>Lara >> >> >>---- >>"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." >> -- Oscar Wilde >> >>On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 WWoodliff@aol.com wrote: >> >>> I Don't believe I am hearing this! "I can drive great frying on E >>or while >>> stoned but please no one drive drunk because that just wouldn't be >>right >>> putting your life and others in jeopardy" What a bunch of >>adolescent, >>> misguided, bullshit. If you are intoxicated in any shape or form >>you should >>> have the maturity, respect for others and the respect for yourself >>to wait it >>> out. I don't care if you "THINK" you are O.K. doing it. Get a >>clue, think >>> about how many other things you think are O.K. or make sense while >>> intoxicated. Doing drugs can be fun and enlightening but realize >>they are >>> also very, very dangerous! Especially in the hands of people like >>you who >>> nonchalantly throw the lives of yourself your friends and strangers > >>out the >>> window every time you get behind the wheel fucked up. For Gods >sake >>party >>> responsibly! Don't run out of the party thinking you can make it. > >>And if >>> you and all of your friends think you have to party like rock stars > >>until the >>> lights come on then be prepared before hand to sleep it off when >you >>get to >>> your car. And whatever you do don't let that best friend that you >>met three >>> hours ago try to convince you that he's O.K. and hand over the >>responsibility >>> to him/her. If you don't know that you are good enough to drive >>chances are >>> your judgment is not good enough to tell if they are. I don't mean > >>to sound >>> like a preacher but for the grace of God I am here to share my >>knowledge with >>> you today. Go out and have all the fun you can just be prepared >and >>be >>> responsible remember it wasn't drugs or lack of sleep that killed >>those kids >>> a few weeks ago, it was an attitude that says "hey its only so far, > >>I can >>> make it." Nothing is worth taking that chance. Out of all the >>people in the >>> world House/Rave culture has some of the most beautiful inspiring >>and >>> enlightened people I have ever met. The world is going to shit >fast >>and >>> needs all the help it can get and the loss of even one of you, even > >>though I >>> may have never met you saddens me greatly. Please be safe and >think >>ahead. >>> >>> Much Love JonPaul >>> >> >> >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 18:28:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11976 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 18:28:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 11960 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 18:28:14 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 18:28:14 -0000 Received: from FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vLKRa12389 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:27:34 -0400 (EDT) From: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:27:34 EDT Subject: audio impact baybee! ;)~ To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wow. this party kicked ass! as always, jamal got up on his *chairs* and did his mc thing--he likes to be seen by the crowd of course. later, he brought up mc duh and they got the crowd pumpin together. it was cool. dj megatron was making a video (btw, i want a copy!) along with a whole bunch of other people, and i think spin magazine was there. (keep your eyes open!) hehe. i met some people (emma) some finally after meeting them on sfraves (spindaze) and i saw some friends (adrie & laurel). overall, the party was hella tight, but i still have some complaints (as usual!!): 1) okay, why the hell did the punk/ska band that was @ the club before the party take so DAMN long to get the hell out??! damn. they were supposed to be gone by 9:30 and the doors were supposed to open @ 10! wtf? we finally got in @ about 11:15. that was lame ass. (i liked the music they were playing though, but that's not the point). 2) the location was really small (obviously a venue for bands to play @, w/ the stage and all), and there wasn't enough space to dance. i still was gettin down though. 3) what's up with the funky girls dancing hella close to me, rubbing their asses on me??! that my friends was SOOO not cool. 4) why did it end @ 3 when the flyer said it would end @ 4? oh well. ;) i had hella fun last night. thanks naomi, markis and dj megatron for picking me up @ my house and bringing me to this party! and thanks to all the people who were hella nice to me last night (like jamalski). i loved the positive vibe at this party--i don't completely agree with jamal though because he dissed home base last night. i like massives too. oh, speaking of massives, i KNOW you all are going to tha formula! i've had that flyer for like a week, and i'm hella juiced! wow. finally i can stop my bitching and complaining and go to an ALL JUNGLE massive!! :) so anyway everyone, if you're a jungle baby like myself, you should check out eklektic @ 78 minna on thursdays. (especially next thursday) ;)~ and of course, go to dubphonic cuz it's gonna be off da hook! *peace, love and unity*, catrina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 18:41:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16916 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 18:41:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 16906 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 18:41:04 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 18:41:04 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.78] (madmax-6.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.6]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA23744 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <371092F7.79F550A1@ulink.net> References: <1.5.4.32.19990411044140.006bc738@apollo.sfsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:41:17 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: NRR lots of thing in one email.. Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 5:17 AM -0700 4/11/99, Dragn'fly wrote: >> "Fuck! Piercings are so mainstream now. The piercing scene was >> better back the day, when it was all UG. > >What the hell are you talking about??? I got my first "real piercings" >back in >1988 or 1989 at Body Manipulations on the Haight. That was over 11 years >ago!!! >By no means were they UG. They were on the friggin' street taking Visa and >Mastercard!!!! Body M. was not just on the street. They were on Fillmore in the Lower Haight, a neighborhood that was and is a bit of a toilet. Not upper Haight, or Telegraph where all of Walnut Creek goes to buy hipness. Everyone takes plastic, get over it. In those days if you wanted to get pierced, you went to Body M. or Gauntlet, period. If you weren't in Frisco, Santa Monica, or NYC you were shit outa luck. Back then no mainstream fashion mag, nor TV sitcom had ever mentioned piercing. Middle Amerika didn't have any knowledge of piercing. That's UG. >What the heck does "vibe" have to do with peircings???? A piercing is a >personal experience and at least for me, a "vibe" is something more on a >communal level. Community, right. As you should know, we had that back then. If you saw a pierced person on the street, it was like "there goes one of us." Then there were the "Live Skin" shows with Fakir lifting stuff with his chest piercings, and Ester from body M. doing branding live on stage. The show was kinda dumb, but the gathering of the tribe aspect was wonderful. >So you thought that piercings were cool as long as Sally the neighbor thought >that they were grody, heh??? Um...Duh! That's almost the definition of cool. >Why not think of it as society becoming more enlightened??? 'Cuz that would be delusional. Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 19:20:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1493 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 19:20:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 1483 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 19:20:48 -0000 Received: from f57.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 19:20:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 26306 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 19:19:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411191905.26305.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 171.214.144.215 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:19:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [171.214.144.215] From: "Macadio G." To: Juju0322@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: cutie Dj's Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:19:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk She is from NYC. She is really good Live PA and she should have some tracks being released real shortly on a local NYC label. At least that is what I heard. Peaces, Macadio >From: Juju0322@aol.com >Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: cutie Dj's >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:10:03 EDT > >ummmm....can we say space girl, wow, a pretty damn hott chick right there for >you, then her skill, hell yeah, i belive she is from the UK, but i saw her >spin out in the south east (asheville, NC) >-Stephanie Marie- Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 19:28:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4458 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 19:28:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 4439 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 19:28:51 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 19:28:51 -0000 Message-id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:27:01 -0700 Subject: Re: "the underground" ya think? To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Cc: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I question the true nature of this "scene" and its claim to be underground. Last night on Live 105 they were talking about tickle and the f-8 DJ's. Electronic music is in virtually every commercial and parties "raves" are now in everything from Wesley Snipes movies (Blade) to the new No Doubt video and I won't even bring up Fat Boy Slim (still bad ass though!). It seems this underground is becoming more and more mainstream. (Very similar to the Grunge/Seattle scene a few years back). This is both positive and negative if you ask me. I believe the level of talent will have to go up a notch because there will be real $$$ to be made. Unfortunately with real $$$ to be made, there will be many folks in it for just that. If you ask me, the only real underground these days are the folks who like old 80's hair bands (grin).........kidding! But what do I know..... aQ H4RDHOUSE@aol.com writes: >ok...... i have a question for the dood who was talkin about piercing and >the >underground? what makes u think like the underground is soooooo cool, i >goto >raves all the time, i spin (dnb, proggressive, downtempo, hardhouse) and >i >consider myself a normal person. i think all that underground stuff is >bullshit for people who dont feel liked by society or feel they are not >"cool" enough for everyone else and do it for some sense of security and >feeling that everyone else looks up to them cuz they've got a metal ball >in >thier chin. im sorry that mainstream society has taken away your only way >to >be liked by everyone else but maybe u should goto the gap and buy a pair >of >kakhis and a nice sweater, you'll find people will like u just like that >too From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 19:54:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14022 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 19:54:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14007 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 19:54:51 -0000 Received: from law-f165.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.228) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 19:54:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 31573 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 19:54:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411195424.31572.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.122 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:54:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.122] From: "michael waldren" To: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu, H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Cc: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: underground jabber Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:54:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No one is claiming the "rave" scene or culture to be underground. What we are saying is that it can be broken down from the mainstream. The underground isnt about making money or coming up in da biz. It is about being true to the party, not fronting or posing because someone else thinks this is cool. Now i am not an expert on UG parties and i will not claim to be. What i do know is that the vibe is always sincere, and very tightknit. As if we were a family, even if it was for that brief moment in time. And the underground is always on the rise, because of posers who think they actually know what they are talking about. That is why it is constantly changing, because everyone is so Goddamn anti trendy. Just go with what works, and dont be pressed on the criticisms of others. "your everyday junglist" Mikey >From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) >To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com >CC: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: "the underground" ya think? >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:27:01 -0700 > >I question the true nature of this "scene" and its claim to be >underground. Last night on Live 105 they were talking about tickle and the >f-8 DJ's. Electronic music is in virtually every commercial and parties >"raves" are now in everything from Wesley Snipes movies (Blade) to the new >No Doubt video and I won't even bring up Fat Boy Slim (still bad ass >though!). It seems this underground is becoming more and more mainstream. >(Very similar to the Grunge/Seattle scene a few years back). This is both >positive and negative if you ask me. I believe the level of talent will >have to go up a notch because there will be real $$$ to be made. >Unfortunately with real $$$ to be made, there will be many folks in it for >just that. > > If you ask me, the only real underground these days are the folks who >like old 80's hair bands (grin).........kidding! > >But what do I know..... >aQ >H4RDHOUSE@aol.com writes: >>ok...... i have a question for the dood who was talkin about piercing and >>the >>underground? what makes u think like the underground is soooooo cool, i >>goto >>raves all the time, i spin (dnb, proggressive, downtempo, hardhouse) and >>i >>consider myself a normal person. i think all that underground stuff is >>bullshit for people who dont feel liked by society or feel they are not >>"cool" enough for everyone else and do it for some sense of security and >>feeling that everyone else looks up to them cuz they've got a metal ball >>in >>thier chin. im sorry that mainstream society has taken away your only way >>to >>be liked by everyone else but maybe u should goto the gap and buy a pair >>of >>kakhis and a nice sweater, you'll find people will like u just like that >>too > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 20:08:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19053 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 20:08:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 19043 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 20:08:37 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 20:08:37 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id hCTQa27562; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <8ae61ea8.24425afe@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:07:26 EDT Subject: Re: TiCkLe!.... the titanic song To: anton@fiveartists.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok i'm not getting why everyone loves this song, I hated it when celine dion did it and im not about to change my opinion just because itz a trance remix matthew From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 20:10:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22267 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 20:10:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 21846 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 20:10:21 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 20:10:21 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iOYFa15519; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:04:58 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <35e8cd8.24425a6a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:04:58 EDT Subject: Re: underground jabber To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu CC: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i dont know, im in raves STRICTLY for the music and dancing. i find it sooooooooo irritating when i see a bunch of kids (and im only 15) running around with 8000000 necklaces and pacifiers in thier mouth screaming plur. i find it sooooooo, far from the truth i guess. what causes these people to goto such lengths (surfacely) to look like a candy raver (and what the fudge is up with that name to) i could never without having the urge to kill myself later say to someone "yeah, im a candy raver" that is sooooooo stupid and everything just irritates me. my idea of a perfect rave would be one where everyone just wore plain normal chlothes, danced and listened to the music. that would make my life sooooooooo much better.also massives are stupid aswell, why do all of u candy ravers go if ure all about the underground when u know massives are all about money?? i think all u kids wearing more than 2 necklaces and/or 5 colors need to perform a reality check on themselves, think about how stupid they look, and gop buy good old puma or adiddas, eh? - im not a mean person, just an irritated one :] -ralph From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 20:26:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29032 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 20:26:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 29013 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 20:26:22 -0000 Received: from law-f148.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.211) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 20:26:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 75993 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 20:25:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411202555.75992.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.122 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:25:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.122] From: "michael waldren" To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com, Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu Cc: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: underground jabber Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:25:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay i am going to assume you are in front of a crack pipe right now because i sure as hell am not a candy raver. I am a bonafide B-boy junglist who goes to partys for the party. K. And if i was a candy raver does that make me a bad person because i choose not be a thug.I have mad respect for the majority oof all candys and they are really great people. Not constantly copping attitude trying to pick a fight because of the shoes I wear. Nike all the way i might add. You trendified excuse for a party kid. Hows about not biting some one elses style, that is since you are this underground God right. I am sorry to all who have to read this in its entirity, but ignorance is not allowed. I just have to smack my bitch up than i am out. And just a second ago you were going off about how you were this DJ who isnt down with the underground because it the new thing to do, and then you just go off and rip on massives. Can i ask what kind of party it is that you do like. "your everyday junglist"-take note of the everyday part Mikey >From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com >Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com >To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu >CC: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: underground jabber >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:04:58 EDT > >i dont know, im in raves STRICTLY for the music and dancing. i find it >sooooooooo irritating when i see a bunch of kids (and im only 15) running >around with 8000000 necklaces and pacifiers in thier mouth screaming plur. i >find it sooooooo, far from the truth i guess. what causes these people to >goto such lengths (surfacely) to look like a candy raver (and what the fudge >is up with that name to) i could never without having the urge to kill myself >later say to someone "yeah, im a candy raver" that is sooooooo stupid and >everything just irritates me. my idea of a perfect rave would be one where >everyone just wore plain normal chlothes, danced and listened to the music. >that would make my life sooooooooo much better.also massives are stupid >aswell, why do all of u candy ravers go if ure all about the underground when >u know massives are all about money?? i think all u kids wearing more than 2 >necklaces and/or 5 colors need to perform a reality check on themselves, >think about how stupid they look, and gop buy good old puma or adiddas, eh? > >- im not a mean person, just an irritated one :] > >-ralph Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 20:28:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 218 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 20:28:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 206 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 20:28:36 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 20:28:36 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vWXQa17882 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:28:03 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <39949de9.24425fd3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:28:03 EDT Subject: NRR: senior experience To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok heres the story. At my school the senior class always has this project where we have to go out into the "world" and find someone with a job or carreer that we like and job shadow them, or learn a new skill that can be useful in the job world. My original plan to have my dad be my mentor has fallen thru cause the school wont let me produce my music with my dad as my mentor. Its getting kinda late now and i am still looking for a mentor. if anyone: 1) produces their own music 2) DJs 3) designs flyers/web pages/ or anything in the graphic arts field and wants to mentor me i would be eternally greatful. being my mentor is actually kinda easy. all u have to do is work out when i can come over and "job shadow" u at work or wherever. i have to have 16 hours racked up and i CAN take days off of school if necessary. I dont see anything here on an age limit so as long as u are employed in ur field u are a canidate. thanks and im sorry about the spam to those who this doesnt apply to but this is my last chance. -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 20:29:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 883 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 20:28:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 873 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 20:28:58 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 20:28:58 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vLWKa17884 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:28:15 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:28:15 EDT Subject: tina's tickle review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well well well, i've said it before, and i'll say it again, thomas really knows how to throw a great party! so i knew i was gonna enjoy this parrty, since the last tickle back in august was such an incredible experience.... so with my presale in hand, i set off to 2nd and jax around 9ish (meeting a friend who had no ticket yet).... got a lil lost, cuz i took 5th off of 880 and that spot where you usually turn was blocked off by the train crossing arms, and flares..... but i found my way there shortly after. got inside and got my free glowstick!!! yay! how fun was that? and got to look around before it got really crowded.... for some reason it seemed bigger than usual... which was nice... the fans helped a lot too.... the lights were cool for the most part, but i have to be honest i didn't pay too much attention to decorations and lighting.... the party had a good vibe... i didn't get bugged about drugs from strangers as much as i usually do there, so that was nice.... got to see a lot of sfr kids, ryan, val, aryck, jenn, vlad, mandi, and a few others that i'm blanking on at the moment.. sorry!! =) my nite started out kinda yucky cuz the e i got was too strong and for the first time ever made me sick, but after a lil while i felt all better and got to enjoy the rest of my nite.. i had good friends watching out for me that whole time, so i wasn't too concerned... although laterr on in the nite, i saw some girl being carried out of the 2nd room towards the exit, from some kinda od, i'd guess since her eyes were rolled back and her body was just kinda limp and flailing about.... anyone know what happened to this girl?? sshe had really short blonde hair..... oh and the thing that disgusted me-- i met this girl who had been thrown down by some guy and had a fat lip and the skin all around her eye was scratched up and starting to scab over..... i felt so bad for her... some random violent fool just threw her.... otherwise everything was perfect! the music wass great, the love was definatley there!! i am too tired to be writing this so i'm sorry if it sounds odd... i hope those of you that went last nite had a really good time, and those of you junglists out at audio impact danced your booties off!!!! and those of you who opted for a nite at ome, or out with someone special, orr just with friends had a beautiful nite as well!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 20:45:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6671 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 20:45:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 6303 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 20:45:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ns.acacia-ca.org) (209.76.217.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 20:45:36 -0000 Received: from Jsondhi.ACACIA-CA (Administrators@localhost) by ns.acacia-ca.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA00283 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:37:53 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Message-Id: <199904112037.NAA00283@ns.acacia-ca.org> X-Sender: jsondhi@mail.acacia-ca.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:44:46 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Budless Bundy Subject: Tickle....Booo!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK. So I'm in a "frat". (ok let's not start another flame war over this topic again) And I HAD to go to this frickin' formal event last night... which included dancing to a shitty DJ and all... so i decided I would just go to the dinner, leave early and go to tickle with my date. So we leave at 11:30 (which is a little too late) and get to 2nd and Crackson at about 12:30.... And we find out that it is over capacity and they weren't letting anybody else in!!!!! BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! So I waited around for about 30 minutes to see if they would change their mind..... then went home! Now I'm bitter at the fact that I'm in a FRAT!!! Good thing I'm a senior and I don't have to deal with all that crap anymore. Sounds like it was a phatty party. I hope everyone had a good time. Hopefully I'll be able to use my tickets for the next man in the moon party? Jonas? Denise? Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 20:46:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7908 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 20:46:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 7893 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 20:46:52 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 20:46:52 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vAWGa18500 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:46:07 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <435491af.2442640f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:46:07 EDT Subject: MYYYYYYY Tickle3 review!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alright alright alright.....what can i say? first off..this was an AWESOME PARTY!!! I danced up on the bricks with my glowstick until around 2am...i was GOING OFF!!! goodness... the vibe was soo thick! i couldn't even breathe up there! Jackson was pretty clean compared to other parties i've been to there.... so i was very appreciative of that! :)..... i met some SFRavers :)...*whats up KIDZ*....i saw my favortie boy *RYAN!!!*.... some people from Reno came down that i know and my best-guy-friend came down too!.... THE DJS ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHATS UP MOSHE!!!! i still don't like that TiTanic song though...i sat down and was like, "turn it off! turn it off!".... oh well.... i think it's one of those songs you need some there with like a boyfriend or a girlfriend to enjoy. it is a very *fufu* song. also i don't like songs that go la dee da da...la dee da la de da la de da.....it bothers the fuuuuuuuuk outta me!.... they played an awesome song that took me away..i was up on those bricks and it was like i was lifted up off of them... it was soo amazing!.... OH YA!..Thomas DOES know how to throw a party.... but i was a little sketchy about the location and heat...but DAYEM! it wasn't tooo hot...and it wasn't too dirty...not too many people... so THIS PARTY FUUKIN ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!..MAD props to everyone who went and made the vibe!!!..MAD props to Thomas for being the weirdo he is!! *Just teasin ya!*.......so............ THANK YOU EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ~Sami :) *girl...stay sober. you don't need drugs to experience a high!* - Jeremy :) *i dance when i'm sober and sit down when i'm high!* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 21:00:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13551 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 21:00:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 13535 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 21:00:14 -0000 Received: from vm4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO vm4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 21:00:14 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB605-19.splitrock.net [209.252.6.19]) by vm4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA126072; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:00:08 -0400 Message-ID: <37110CD8.26DE87CA@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:58:01 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BeTTaViBe@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: IM looking for this song ! READ This PLease ! References: <6ab7321b.2441a4e2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If I remember correctly the song you were looking for was on a double lp set called Powder Productions - Pipe Dreams - Glasgow Underground It came out around November of last year, and last I seen it was at In Tha Mix in Sac. If you can't find it anywhere then I suggest doing a special order for it. Its not that old so it should be still in print, so it would be just a matter of the distribs having it. Primal in Berkeley and Clear in SF has always done real good in the way of house special orders for me. Hope you find it. peace- Joe Lanzon BeTTaViBe@aol.com wrote: > if anyone has this song i will pay about 30-40$ for it on Vinyl..im REALLY > REALLY lokking for this..maybe we can work soemthing out..!PLEASE > > Song is called : ELLOCO > By: Powder Producitons > Label: Glasgow > > the goes " Jump up....Jump up.........Jump Up......Jump up in De air !.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 21:06:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17048 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 21:06:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17029 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 21:06:08 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 21:06:08 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vTNLa20627 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <23425c0f.2442689f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:05:35 EDT Subject: auDio ImpAct review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Markis1012@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, what else is there to say about this party excect for the fact that it was HELLA fuckin dope. The vibe was very good. It was kinda scary though because there was this guy there that was buying me water and fanning me with his flyer asking me if i was ok every 15 minutes. I'm not homophobic or anything but I don't get down like that .....SORRY !!! Anywayz, I thought out of the 5 Dj's that spun, that FLUX tore the turntables apart. VERY HIGH ENERGY TYPE SHIT. BIG UPS to the b.a.s.s. kru. I hope you guys throw another audio impact really soon!!! To all the junglist that don't know, ther is going to be an ALL jungle massive party on the 15th of May. It's called the FORMULA!!! The line up is going to be ..... basically the illest dj's in the scene. I hope to see all of you guys there. later:) markis From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 21:10:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18948 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 21:10:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 18938 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 21:10:20 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 21:10:20 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vGZAa17883 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:08:37 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:08:37 EDT Subject: re: NRR: bowling nite ;) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_fbb6a7c2.24426955_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_fbb6a7c2.24426955_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_fbb6a7c2.24426955_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Full-name: OoNOTlKo0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:07:41 EDT Subject: re: NRR: bowling nite ;) To: laraz@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com pleasant hill has 2 boling alleys and one of them they let my school have a BOWLING class there. so if they are willing to put up with a bunch of rude abnoxious highschoolers i think they would WELCOME a bunch of warm fuzzy luvin ravers. (and the sound system COULD be all ours) -aaron --part1_fbb6a7c2.24426955_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 21:23:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24599 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 21:23:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24591 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 21:23:07 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 21:23:07 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vVBQa23597 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:22:30 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:22:30 EDT Subject: Re: TiCkLe! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have to agree there. tickle was a good frickin party. i was totally hyped up for demigod and i kinda felt let down in a sense. i always do this, i get all expectant and then i overestimate the experince before im even there. i think i was more thinking i would be able to actually HEAR the hardcore but it came out kinda mushy and noisy fer me (happy hardcore better be different! :P other than that im glad i could just walk into the next room and enjoy some more trance. although i did miss dj d (AGAIN DAMNIT!) i still had a blast. so when i was sitting down this guy named charly came up and started talking to me and i HAVE to spread his story!... "once there was a beach. on the beach were tens of thousands of starfish that were washed up and dying on the sand. this man walked up and picked up a starfish and trhew it in the ocean, then he stooped down and picked up another one and threw it in the ocean. he was doing this for a little while when another man came up and said, "what do u think ur accomplishing?! ull never make any difference justthrowing one in at a time hell ur not gonna make any difference whatsoever so give it up!" the man turned around and said "oh yeah?" picked up a starfish and threw it into the ocean "i made a difference for that one."" that story changed me so much hope it did thah same fer some of u. -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 21:32:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27508 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 21:32:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 27484 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 21:32:00 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 21:32:00 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vSCKa20624; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:31:27 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:31:27 EDT Subject: Re: re: NRR: bowling nite ;) To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i acutally went to a party at a bowling alley in sacramento last year...let me tell you!....bowling in the black lights with music pounding in your ears and sliding across the floor with slippery shoes on..it is the SHHEEIT of SHHEEITS!.... ~Sami :) In a message dated 4/11/99 13:10:31, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com writes: <> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 21:48:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3933 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 21:48:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 3925 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 21:48:40 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 21:48:40 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vIQNa12389; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:48:07 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <5f806217.24427297@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:48:07 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: bowling nite ;) To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Castro Valley already has a rock-n-bowl thing evey saturday nite from 11-2 here you pay a $10 cover charge and you get as many games as you want until 2 am.... they have a dj- but the kind who puts on cd's, and a sound system set up, so i'm sure that they could work something simliar out.... like i remember hearing something about a techno-bowl in japantown, but i could be wrong... i need sleep love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/11/99 2:10:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com writes: << pleasant hill has 2 boling alleys and one of them they let my school have a BOWLING class there. so if they are willing to put up with a bunch of rude abnoxious highschoolers i think they would WELCOME a bunch of warm fuzzy luvin ravers. (and the sound system COULD be all ours) -aaron >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 22:20:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17639 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 22:20:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 17529 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 22:20:01 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 22:20:01 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iMNJa23591; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:00:47 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:00:47 EDT Subject: Re: underground jabber To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu CC: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, let's clear this up real quik....... i don't do crack, that's first :]. i do spin and love music.... and i dont dislike people because of the way they dress, i just find the way they dress irritating and annoying. im glad u wear nike's, im wearing air max's as we speak, but frankly i don't think u make much sense. I think the underground is a bunch of krap which people more often than not think they're a part of, but then they show up at massives every weekend, what's the deal with that? i don't think im a part of anything, i don't consider myself a "raver" i goto parties to listen to the music, to dance (in the circles mostly, but not breaking, more new style dancing). i goto massives only when all my friends are going..... and i goto undergrounds only when i don't have much money for anything else. i'm not into the drug scene, so raves arent just a place for me to take pills and bad trip all night. my kinda party is a drug free one with normal people dancing and watching tha dj spin, those are the funnest parties. People to frepuently get caught up in the rave scene for it's image, they are ravers if they goto massives so they feel unique, i bet 75% of people u see at massives would have more fun at a movie with some good friends, they don't love music, they don't love dancing, they go simply to be able to say they goto raves because some people consider raves cool n trendy. i know at my school in fremont me n my friends are consider popular cuz we spin and goto parties, but that's not why we do it, u know what im saying? the point of my message in general was to vent and give everyone who spends $250 a month on parties something to think about, not to blast u cuz the shoes u wear (i don't even know where u came up with that one) so ya, stay safe and positive; and o yeah, if u wanna come to one of MY kinda parties we're throwing one on the 23rd, details later ;]. -the newly labeled "underground god" ralph ;P From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 22:25:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20266 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 22:25:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 20233 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 22:25:27 -0000 Received: from web217.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 22:25:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411222535.147.rocketmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.204] by web217.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:25:35 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:25:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: nrr: suggested activity: BUCKING and CLUCKING To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is an easy one, and an opportunity once again for you to use your artistic license. Walk around your place of residence and starting bucking and clucking like a chicken might as loud as you can. I like to make sure there is someone home before I do this. I personally prefer just bucking, but you can cluck too if you like. I start off really low, "buck, buck, buck, buck, buck...." and then, ever so gradually, I increase the speed of the word "buck" and raise the pitch of my voice. "BUCK, BUCK, BUCK, BUCK, BUCK, BUCK, BUCK, BUCK,BUCK,BUCK,BUCK,BUCK!" Do you get the general idea? If there is no one home, or you live by yourself, then I suggest doing this outside, perhaps while waiting next to a stranger for the light to change.love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 22:32:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24903 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 22:32:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 24891 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 22:32:47 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 22:32:47 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iWILa23591; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:07:58 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <220a7144.2442773e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:07:58 EDT Subject: Re: underground jabber To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com, chocolate976@hotmail.com, Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu CC: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk H4rdhouse and others who are interested: ya i see what your saying and i kind of agree but mostly dont w/ u. I've noticed that it is a trend for a lot of kids your age, and other newbies to wear massive amounts of candy (or jewelry, since u dont like that word). I think that people dont do it necessariy to be irritating, it's due to the fact that they go to parties, and think, "gee this is how a raver looks like, and I wanna look like a raver." Newbies (mostly) who wear an excess of beads, fur, or what may have u, get the notion that in order to fit into a rave or the raver stereotype, that candy is the way to go. I've seen a lot of people grow out of this, as if it is a phase. I can't give a great explanation as to why it seems as if many newbies are candy kids, but i believe it is because they do it cuz they think that's how you're SUPPOSED to look . . . either that or they like it . . . However, in my opinion a person should dress in what he/she likes and how she/he likes, not as (i dont know if this is the right word) a poser, becuz if you r dressing a certain way just becuz u think that's the way to fit in, you're wrong. Neways H4rdhouse boy, i agree w/ u in some aspects of what u said, but I do not think it's right to be ignorant of those candy people because u dont like how they express themselves. Also, you dont have the right to say they look "stupid" or should go buy some pumas or adidas, cuz some of them might think u look like a moron, so I don't think you have the right to think your fit is doper than anyone else's. IF you really are into parties strictly for the music and dancing, dont get all irritated if people are dressing a way that u dont agree with. And i just wanna clarify, that they are no "perfect raves" and if there was one, people wouldn't be dressin all the same. . . I just wanted to do some teaching. .. if u dont like it. .whatever :*:*angel*:*: In a message dated 4/11/99 1:10:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, H4RDHOUSE@aol.com writes: i dont know, im in raves STRICTLY for the music and dancing. i find it sooooooooo irritating when i see a bunch of kids (and im only 15) running around with 8000000 necklaces and pacifiers in thier mouth screaming plur. i find it sooooooo, far from the truth i guess. what causes these people to goto such lengths (surfacely) to look like a candy raver (and what the fudge is up with that name to) i could never without having the urge to kill myself later say to someone "yeah, im a candy raver" that is sooooooo stupid and everything just irritates me. my idea of a perfect rave would be one where everyone just wore plain normal chlothes, danced and listened to the music. that would make my life sooooooooo much better.also massives are stupid aswell, why do all of u candy ravers go if ure all about the underground when u know massives are all about money?? i think all u kids wearing more than 2 necklaces and/or 5 colors need to perform a reality check on themselves, think about how stupid they look, and gop buy good old puma or adiddas, eh? - im not a mean person, just an irritated one :] -ralph >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 22:40:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28975 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 22:40:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 28957 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 22:40:38 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 22:40:38 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vTCUa21404 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:39:35 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <72ae6e64.24427ea7@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:39:35 EDT Subject: Re: underground jabber To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i tend to disagree hehe. im into raves for the music. if i wasnt i am seriously wasting my life, money, and happiness on nothing at all. i wear lots of beads and necklaces to express how happy i am in a way it is easiest for me. normally im a VERY shy person and i cant just go up and say "hi my name is aaron be my friend?". wearing my candy is like a support thingy for me. if i look happy on the outside i feel good one the inside too and vice versa, the more accesorised i am the more fun im havin. i luv giving to people and if i dont have any beads or flashy happy furry things i feel lonely cause i have no contact or link to other people (i dont know if this is making sense...) im not gonna walk around and give out pencils, im gonna give candy and happy shtuff. about the massives. i am not all UG. i love massives. i have never been to a party with less than 2000 people. sure i dont like the fact that its crowded alot and i get shoved alot but its a rave, its gonna get crowded. and that just means its all the more people i get to meet. i dont have mood swings. if im happy im happy if im a little sad im sad. i have never thought of suicide and i never will. i think ur judging from the surface on alot of people. it woulda been ok if u said "some kandy ravers" but i have to defend myself on this one. i am not as u describe. -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 22:41:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29937 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 22:41:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 29924 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 22:41:39 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 22:41:39 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vOJYa01909; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:40:38 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:40:38 EDT Subject: Re: underground jabber To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wish I only spent $250.00 a month on parties. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 22:49:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4349 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 22:49:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 4341 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 22:49:01 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 22:49:01 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.42) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:52:35 -0800 Message-ID: <371126DD.72D8410D@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:49:01 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: NRR: bowling nite ;) References: <5f806217.24427297@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk he he, speaking of the disco bowling in sacramento, i installed the big system here at country club lanes. i'm not real clear on what they play all the time, but fri and sat is pretty much top 40 stuff. they do play jungle, house and more modern types of stuff on wednesday and thurday nights. i'm trying to get in there and show some people what trance is. :) i'll keep you all in touch. paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 22:53:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8138 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 22:53:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 8129 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 22:53:27 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 22:53:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411225338.12896.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.204] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:53:38 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 15:53:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: MYYYYYYY Tickle3 review!!! To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What's wrong with dee da da? Dee da da can be a pretty wild experience coming from the voice of a goddess.love,Julie --- SaMiENiTTy@aol.com wrote: > also i don't like songs that go la dee > da da...la dee da la de > da la de da.....it bothers the fuuuuuuuuk outta > me!.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 23:03:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14418 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 23:03:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 14365 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 23:03:07 -0000 Received: from web208.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 23:03:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411230328.24011.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.204] by web208.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:03:28 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:03:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: cutie Dj's To: the town drunk , Juju0322@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Some dutch women are sooooooo beautiful. I haven't been to Holland yet either, gotta go there too.love,Julie the town drunk wrote: > I believe she is from Holland. Never thought I'd be > marrying someone from > Holland, but that just goes to show, you never know. > She doesn't know > this yet, but she will! hehe =) > -elias smythe > > <<-MHz->> > <> > http://www.MHz.nu > 415-395-8448 > We eat candy ravers for breakfast... > > > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:10:03 EDT Juju0322@aol.com > writes: > >ummmm....can we say space girl, wow, a pretty damn > hott chick right > >there for > >you, then her skill, hell yeah, i belive she is > from the UK, but i saw > >her > >spin out in the south east (asheville, NC) > >-Stephanie Marie- > > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 23:11:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18421 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 23:11:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 18412 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 23:11:21 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 23:11:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411231106.19496.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.204] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:11:06 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:11:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re:NRR TeeHeeeHeeeHeeee To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk None of these rules apply to my personal experience.love,Julie --- Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: > If you work too hard, there is never any time for > her. > If you don't work enough, you're a good-for-nothing > bum. > > If she has a boring repetitive job with low pay, > it's exploitation. > If you have a boring repetitive job with low pay, > you should get off your > butt and find something better. > > If you get a promotion ahead of her, it's > favoritism. > If she gets a job ahead of you, it's equal > opportunity. > > If you mention how nice she looks, it's sexual > harassment. > If you keep quiet, it's male indifference. > > If you make a decision without consulting her, > you're a chauvinist. > If she makes a decision without consulting you, > she's a liberated woman. > > If you ask her to do something she doesn't enjoy, > that's domination. > If she asks you, it's a favor. > > If you try to keep yourself in shape, you're vain. > If you don't, you're a slob. > > If you buy her flowers, you're after something. > If you don't, you're not thoughtful. > > If you're proud of your achievements, you're an > egotist. > If you're not, you're not ambitious. > > If she has a headache, she's tired. > If you have a headache, you don't love her anymore. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 23:21:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23232 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 23:21:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23220 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 23:21:41 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 23:21:41 -0000 Received: from Juju0322@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vKEKa17650 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:20:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Juju0322@aol.com Message-ID: <40f2d70e.24428826@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:20:06 EDT Subject: Re: Space Girl To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okie, first i said she is from the uk, then someone said holland, then someone said russia and then someone said new york. now that i am thinking about it more i believe that she IS from russia, mabey holland but i dont think so, and definitly not new york, but all this is besides the point...SHE IS HOTT. -Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 23:23:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23980 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 23:23:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 23961 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 23:23:00 -0000 Received: from web604.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 23:23:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411232248.23914.rocketmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [38.28.78.160] by web604.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:22:48 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:22:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Guybear Subject: Signin off......for now =) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, its been over a year now for me, and amazingly, im not getting any less mail than i use to!! heheh I dont have use of a computer at work anymore, and sometimes cant check my mail for a few days at a time....So i gots to say laters for now Its just too much right now =( Feel free to say hello and drop me some mail. Hopefully, I will see all you's at 66mhz next weekend..... *BIG HUGGGGGGGS* Guybear From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 11 23:29:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26790 invoked by uid 6000); 11 Apr 1999 23:29:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26763 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1999 23:29:27 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd108.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.172) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 1999 23:29:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 13695 invoked by uid 0); 11 Apr 1999 23:29:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990411232900.13694.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.210.179 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:28:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.210.179] From: "Justin Hale" To: macadio@hotmail.com, Juju0322@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: cutie Dj's Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:28:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk there is an interview with Space Girl at www.selekta.com its a pretty dope online magazine too. bookmark the site.. justin >From: "Macadio G." >To: Juju0322@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: cutie Dj's >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:19:05 PDT > >She is from NYC. She is really good Live PA and she should have some >tracks being released real shortly on a local NYC label. At least >that is what I heard. > >Peaces, >Macadio > > >>From: Juju0322@aol.com >>Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: cutie Dj's >>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:10:03 EDT >> >>ummmm....can we say space girl, wow, a pretty damn hott chick right >there for >>you, then her skill, hell yeah, i belive she is from the UK, but i >saw her >>spin out in the south east (asheville, NC) >>-Stephanie Marie- > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 00:10:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16037 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 00:10:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 16028 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 00:10:08 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 00:10:08 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3VZVa01911 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:09:07 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <8292889b.244293a3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:09:07 EDT Subject: Recipie (try this it really workS!) To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok.. I have seen several variations on this recipie, but I like this one's particular results the best. Feel free to alter any ingredients or add your own for creativity. Ingredients: bottle of water candy jewlry hit of E Optional: glowsticks, boas, fur,and lollipops OH and vinyl Place one candy bracelet or necklace on the floor. Put hit of E directly in the center and pour bottle of water over it. Let simmer for about half an hour and when the E kicks in you should have your very own Insta Raver!! garnish with glowsticks and other optional ingredients as desired. THis is a really popular recipie lately. It's yummy... go ahead and try it! It's almost TOO easy to make! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 00:16:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18127 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 00:15:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 18097 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 00:15:53 -0000 Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 00:15:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412001358.29147.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.62.14.9] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:13:58 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:13:58 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P S T E R Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: Mad Props to Tickle3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Demigod ruled!! It brought out the Robotic Boy in me. For all the people who don't know me, you had to have seen me, kaki pants, tan vest,white shirt, and my safari hat that says chep on it. I sort of wonder about when I'm in the zone as the Robotic Boy, which the name was given to my by this little raver girl (andrea). The right corner at the front in the first room had such a great vibe. There were free dancing lessons by the well known dance artist, Atomic Bomb, if you don't know him you will be amazed at what he can do. As he was demonstrating some old school moves, it seemed as if the whole audience was in tune to his performance. I was surely mesmerized. My friend Ian and Amy (cat ears), took some lessons and caught on pretty fast, but nothing amazing as what the Atomic Bomb could do. Overall there was some great dancers and I would like to give shout outs to : Jason (Trance & Jungle), Atomic Bomb, and most of all my crew the San Leandro crew, we really don't have a name but we can all dance Mike, Arwin, Amy, Ian, Michelle, Jill and I, the Robotic Boy. Peace Out and see you at the next party, if anybody would like to learn a move or two or get into the trance zone, stop by and say hi. Flexing is our fav. Chep === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 01:38:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22345 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 01:38:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 22335 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 01:38:35 -0000 Received: from web126.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.195) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 01:38:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412013856.12970.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.212.64.100] by web126.yahoomail.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:38:56 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:38:56 -0700 (PDT) From: lynz Subject: ((miss cheapo looking for party)) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay... lately i've been such a tight ass about money.. you know how that goes right? going through that one stage where you just have to force yourself to stop spending money cuz your financial situation just isn't doing so well.. well, that's me right now.. but im feening for a party... SO... does anyone know of any parties, not too expensive, going on this weekend coming up? or maybe next weekend? thanks... just email me privately or whatevers... Lynz === "I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 02:01:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5641 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 02:01:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 5628 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 02:01:20 -0000 Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 02:01:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412015924.15228.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.33.180] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:59:24 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: ((miss cheapo looking for party)) To: lynz , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 4/15/99: Thursday - party on 1932 Telegraph...$5-$7 sliding scale. Looks to be Psychic TV oriented. 4/16/99: Friday - Full Moon Party 415-339-8015 4/17/99: Saturday - Epiphany DayBreaks: Daytime Party 415-289-2100 x118 Michael o)-< --- lynz wrote: > okay... lately i've been such a tight ass about > money.. you know how that goes right? going through > that one stage where you just have to force yourself > to stop spending money cuz your financial situation > just isn't doing so well.. well, that's me right > now.. > but im feening for a party... SO... does anyone know > of any parties, not too expensive, going on this > weekend coming up? or maybe next weekend? > thanks... > just email me privately or whatevers... > > Lynz > === > > "I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 02:03:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6585 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 02:03:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 6575 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 02:03:16 -0000 Received: from mail10.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 02:03:16 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca11-152.ix.netcom.com [209.109.237.152]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25073; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37115405.7955CAFF@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:01:42 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mike bolger CC: SpinDazE@aol.com, Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad References: <19990411015400.18110.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Mike, don't say it if you don't mean it. =Paul*E*Wog mike bolger wrote: > > fuck you. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 02:23:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13295 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 02:23:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 13195 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 02:22:56 -0000 Received: from mail10.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 02:22:56 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca11-152.ix.netcom.com [209.109.237.152]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07896 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371158B3.ACECBB1F@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:21:39 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Does this party TiCKLE your fancy! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In ONE word, "Oh hells fucking NO!" I had fun at this party, but only because I always have fun. I did not like this party at all. These are some points about the party. I have divided them up into two separate categories... POSITIVE: ????? NEGATIVE: Ahem... Sound system was terrible. In the main room, the system had next to nothing BASS. The music would have been more enjoyable if i could have heard a beat, maybe. It was worse in the side room. Hardcore needs BASS and it's an insult to book a hardcore DJ and put him in a room with no BASS. It makes the production crew look bad too. The music was all right. It was the same repetitious trancey beats. Lot's of fun after a few hours. Tires out very soon. I thought this was Trance & JUNGLE factory? Where was all the Drum n BASS? Candy Trash Kids where everywhere!!! Every place I turned, I saw these dirty, smelly, yucky, little 16 year old kids that I have never seen a party before. I asked like 3 of them how long they have been going to parties and they said "For like, a couple months. I love raves!" Of course they also where on e and smelled like they had just swam in a pool of vics vapo rubb. Ah!!! Tacky!!! Shit... where are all the hardcore party people??? 2nd & Jackson... Again!!! I feel like I probably live there! Don't we know of any other locations in Oakland at least? Thank you for reading. Those have been my two cents. =Paul*E*Wog From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 02:28:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15686 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 02:28:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 15677 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 02:28:40 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 02:28:40 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rTJa020332; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:24:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <479dfb39.2442b368@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:24:40 EDT Subject: Re: MYYYYYYY Tickle3 review!!! To: eeelips@yahoo.com, SaMiENiTTy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the original by george kranz is the dopest. i remember that shit from the old school dayz. anyone feel me on the old school version?? DJMEGATRON:mechasoul In a message dated 4/11/99 6:53:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eeelips@yahoo.com writes: << What's wrong with dee da da? Dee da da can be a pretty wild experience coming from the voice of a goddess.love,Julie --- SaMiENiTTy@aol.com wrote: > also i don't like songs that go la dee > da da...la dee da la de > da la de da.....it bothers the fuuuuuuuuk outta > me!.... >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 02:34:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19411 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 02:34:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 19403 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 02:34:37 -0000 Received: from hera.webcom.com (209.1.28.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 02:34:37 -0000 Received: from eresh.webcom.com (eresh.webcom.com [209.1.28.49]) by hera.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA11228; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:34:38 -0700 Received: from [209.244.105.11] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 32925987; Sun Apr 11 19:31 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <37115B1D.8A830919@silverpearl.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:31:57 -0700 From: Silver Pearl Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: The Red Stickman Cc: lynz , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ((miss cheapo looking for party)) References: <19990412015924.15228.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Isn't 1932 Telegraph JJ Newberry's...and if it is DO NOT SUPPORT THIS SHOW!!!! The Red Stickman wrote: > 4/15/99: Thursday - party on 1932 Telegraph...$5-$7 > sliding scale. Looks to be Psychic TV oriented. > > 4/16/99: Friday - Full Moon Party 415-339-8015 > > 4/17/99: Saturday - Epiphany DayBreaks: Daytime Party > 415-289-2100 x118 > > Michael > o)-< > > --- lynz wrote: > > okay... lately i've been such a tight ass about > > money.. you know how that goes right? going through > > that one stage where you just have to force yourself > > to stop spending money cuz your financial situation > > just isn't doing so well.. well, that's me right > > now.. > > but im feening for a party... SO... does anyone know > > of any parties, not too expensive, going on this > > weekend coming up? or maybe next weekend? > > thanks... > > just email me privately or whatevers... > > > > Lynz > > === > > > > "I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 02:36:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20675 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 02:35:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 20665 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 02:35:56 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?FIAKKH6NgUXBhGlf3ghkewsjv0gsBlvR?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 02:35:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id TAA06311; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:35:24 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Paul*E*Wog cc: SFRaves Subject: Re: Does this party TiCKLE your fancy! In-Reply-To: <371158B3.ACECBB1F@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > The music was all right. It was the same repetitious trancey beats. > Lot's of fun after a few hours. Tires out very soon. I thought this was > Trance & JUNGLE factory? Where was all the Drum n BASS? > pool of vics vapo rubb. Ah!!! Tacky!!! Shit... where are all the > hardcore party people??? Uh. Audio Impact. If you don't know get to know. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 02:53:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27402 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 02:53:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 27372 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 02:53:28 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?0t3cD0lt4tDlknWyW8ddY2UyVH6pjMPb?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 02:53:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id TAA08798; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:53:26 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:53:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com cc: breaks@xmission.com Subject: Audio Impact SF last night Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Due to relying on the "we're going to polly esther's" crew for a ride, I got there late, but sped in and caught the last while of Star Eyes' set. Slamdunkin shit from the lady in black. Big up for the umbrella styles and the eastbound motion. Rinse und Flux? Yeah bwoy. I demand to hear that Souljah tune every time, please. And Pressure rmx. Those were nice sets. I haven't heard Rinse and Flux only get to play an hour each in awhile. All it did was increase the tension, more beats, harder, faster. Boo yeah. And then. Phantom 45. I am sort of annoyed that the man didn't get more time to play, but it had been a year since I'd seen him (I MC'd a party he was at in Buffalo, NY last April), and it was good to see that not much has changed. Sarcasm. Heineken. Booty dancing. Rough ass tunes. Not afraid to mix in an old anthem or two (the haaaaaardsteeeeeeeepppppppp last night, is that old Rap, I can't remember). Not as much scratching and tricks as he is capable of, but he did tease with the cuts a little. All that means is that he is not a gimmicky DJ who needs to fuck with tricks all night to disguise whacked blending skill. He killed shit. And he did so while smoking Benson and Hedges. Serious pimpage. I have heard some good reviews and some bad reviews. A friend of mine got the boot for smoking a jay in there, some people were annoyed at the geography of the speakers, etc. I personally had an excellent time dancing for the generous and well-tipping Phunckateck members Noel and Juju. Thanks for the sweaty bills, lads. My personal highlight was assaulting various members of the dancefloor and DJ/promoter community with unshelled salted nuts. This may become a custom as we big up the peanut gallery one time in side the rickedest wuff wide. So...fuck what ya heard, it was a bitchin camero of a party, all the way. Please be very wary of news about to come from the direction of the Eklektic/Ground Score/Density/Garnet camps. In a little more than two weeks, we in SF are going to be treated to some serious serious shit. So don't watch THAT WATCH THIS. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 03:08:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4335 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 03:07:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 4298 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 03:07:54 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 03:07:54 -0000 Received: from lal-99-205 (lal-99-205.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.99.205]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA29491 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904120307.UAA29491@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: anna7@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:09:30 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Anna Furniss Subject: Tickle Tickle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi guys, I'm pretty new to this list and I've never posted, but I had a GREAT time at Tickle so I gathered my courage and decided to post. I haven't been to a ton of raves, but, in my humble opinion, Tickle was really fun. I couldn't stop dancing and everyone I met was so cool, but the best part of the night was when I got back one of my favorite bracelets that I had lost at Popsicle. (Thank you Valerie!) Anyways, thanx to everyone for making it a great party and maybe I'll be brave and post again. Luv, Anna Alita -- Hey girl, you're awesome, I hope I see you again. Anton -- Hi baby, I missed you when you left but I'm glad you had fun anyway. Luv u ;-) Chris & Steph -- HI, I'm so glad I found you guys. Hope u had as much fun as I did. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 03:13:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7325 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 03:13:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 7302 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 03:13:18 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 03:13:18 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7YM59UY; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:12:56 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:16:12 -0700 Subject: chris jackson's tape: pretty damn dope Message-ID: <19990411.201613.-5765.2.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-4 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah I don't have your email address so I'll let everyone read this. Your tape sucked so bad I had to trow it out tha window. Psyche!!!! It's hella dope. I'm sure it'll be in my boombox all week. Thank you much dude. Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 03:29:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15271 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 03:29:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 15261 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 03:29:46 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 03:29:46 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vNHLa23597 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:27:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <90d665dc.2442c20f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:27:11 EDT Subject: Re: Tickle....Booo!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That hella sux that u couldn't get in... it was a phat party.. i can totally relate to the Frat thing though.. my best friend is really into the whole Fraternity party thing and she's made me go to a couple of them, and let me tell ya.. the vibe just does not compare.. not even close!!! Everyone is competing with everyone based on how much they can drink, how many numbers they can get, and who can go home with the best looking girl.. Im sorry, that just doesn't sound like a party to me.. besides, i guess the whole "let's get wasted off my ass and throw up the whole night" idea doesn't appeal to me either.. Ive been going to raves since I was 15, and i haven't found anything that compares to the feeling I get when I'm dancing and getting the waves of good plurism echoing from my fave spots like homebase and 85th and baldwin.. and 2nd and jackson on occasions.. Tickle was awesome by the way.. thomas and demigod were off da hook and i met some sfr crew.. HI TINA, HI FRED, HI ARYCK, HI NICOLE, and to all of u other fellow sfrs that i met MUAH :) and of course an extra big MUAH to all my friends that i saw there :) But, as i was saying.. the Frat scene is really blah and I feel sorry to whoever misess out on those saturday nights that we're crammed into a warehouse with all our friends spreading the love listening to the Dj gods, while other people prefer to go to those lame ass frat parties.. well, im done blabbing for the night.. see ya guys next weekend.. PLUR... MAD HUGZZZZZ....... Valerie AKA sPaRklEs :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 03:45:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21713 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 03:45:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21703 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 03:45:04 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?vjDnlI+3Qctwlf1kGU3+uN9KZqsUpzsz?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 03:45:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id UAA15762; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:45:03 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:45:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: NRR: if this is legit... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk all us WWW punters are fucking stoked. www.alladvantage.com if you decide to give it a shot please include me as your referral: AWD-504 10-4, duh, max think of it as a 40 or a pack of smokes or a pack of condoms like every 5 hours or so. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 04:10:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4899 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 04:10:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 4712 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 04:10:05 -0000 Received: from web205.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.105) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 04:10:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412040853.19020.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.28] by web205.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:08:53 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:08:53 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: ((miss cheapo looking for party)) To: Silver Pearl Records Cc: lynz , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oops! sorry all! that place *is* a deathtrap, IMO. I didn't make the association. love, michael o)-< --- Silver Pearl Records wrote: > Isn't 1932 Telegraph JJ Newberry's...and if it is DO > NOT SUPPORT THIS > SHOW!!!! > > The Red Stickman wrote: > > > 4/15/99: Thursday - party on 1932 > Telegraph...$5-$7 > > sliding scale. Looks to be Psychic TV oriented. [snip] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 04:44:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21947 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 04:44:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 21934 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 04:44:13 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 04:44:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 18690 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 04:44:10 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 04:44:10 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station240.thegrid.net [209.162.3.240]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA01705; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371179FC.4512F0A7@thegrid.net> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:43:40 -0700 From: Mark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul*E*Wog , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Does this party TiCKLE your fancy! References: <371158B3.ACECBB1F@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I thought they did as much as could be done at this party. Positives: For second and Jackson it was relatively Clean, well ventilated, plenty of space to dance, they didn't oversell it. Decorations were good, perhaps a bit too much lighting, but much much better then previous parties that had virtually none at all. Overall good vibes, most people seemed pretty happy, lots of dancing. Negatives: Music was generally the same fair as is to be expected. Demigod was good, and I liked a few other sets...but overall was nothign particularly special. I still gots bugged by lots of dealers, but that doesn't really bother me anyhow, I have no trouble saying "nah" and walking off. Overall had fun, didn't expect much goin in, so I came out happy =:) symmetry Paul*E*Wog wrote: > In ONE word, > > "Oh hells fucking NO!" > > I had fun at this party, but only because I always have fun. > I did not like this party at all. > > These are some points about the party. I have divided them up into two > separate categories... > > POSITIVE: ????? > > NEGATIVE: Ahem... > > Sound system was terrible. In the main room, the system had next to > nothing BASS. The music would have been more enjoyable if i could have > heard a beat, maybe. It was worse in the side room. Hardcore needs BASS > and it's an insult to book a hardcore DJ and put him in a room with no > BASS. It makes the production crew look bad too. > > The music was all right. It was the same repetitious trancey beats. > Lot's of fun after a few hours. Tires out very soon. I thought this was > Trance & JUNGLE factory? Where was all the Drum n BASS? > > Candy Trash Kids where everywhere!!! Every place I turned, I saw these > dirty, smelly, yucky, little 16 year old kids that I have never seen a > party before. I asked like 3 of them how long they have been going to > parties and they said "For like, a couple months. I love raves!" Of > course they also where on e and smelled like they had just swam in a > pool of vics vapo rubb. Ah!!! Tacky!!! Shit... where are all the > hardcore party people??? > > 2nd & Jackson... Again!!! I feel like I probably live there! Don't we > know of any other locations in Oakland at least? > > Thank you for reading. Those have been my two cents. > > =Paul*E*Wog From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 04:58:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26982 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 04:58:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 26972 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 04:58:05 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 04:58:05 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-32.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.32]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09292 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37117D0A.8A58D322@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:56:42 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Big Opium Haul Seized in Singapore Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk .c The Associated Press SINGAPORE (AP) -- Singapore authorities made their largest opium bust since 1990 on Sunday and crippled the island republic's biggest syndicate dealing in the drug, television news reported. Narcotics officers seized 40 slabs of opium weighing a total of 198 pounds in an early morning raid, the Television Corporation of Singapore said. Four men and a woman were arrested. If convicted, all face the death penalty under Singapore's strictly enforced drug trafficking laws. Singapore's Central Narcotics Bureau said it had been tracking the opium syndicate since January. The republic has hanged more than 200 people for drug trafficking since tough drug laws took effect in 1975. AP-NY-04-11-99 2037EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 05:01:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29981 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 05:01:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 29966 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 05:01:28 -0000 Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 05:01:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412050221.303.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.28] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:02:21 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:02:21 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: Does this party TiCKLE your fancy! To: Mark , Paul*E*Wog , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It was my understanding that the Pigs in Blue had a decibel meter outside 2nd/Jackson, and the outside noise limit was set at 80 dB maximum. That may explain the lousy sound and lack of bass. Michael o)-< "If you and I were squirrels..." --- Mark wrote: > I thought they did as much as could be done at this > party. > > Positives: For second and Jackson it was relatively > Clean, well ventilated, plenty > of space to dance, they didn't oversell it. > Decorations were good, perhaps a bit > too much lighting, but much much better then > previous parties that had virtually > none at all. Overall good vibes, most people seemed > pretty happy, lots of > dancing. > > Negatives: Music was generally the same fair as is > to be expected. Demigod was > good, and I liked a few other sets...but overall was > nothign particularly > special. I still gots bugged by lots of dealers, > but that doesn't really bother > me anyhow, I have no trouble saying "nah" and > walking off. > > Overall had fun, didn't expect much goin in, so I > came out happy =:) > > symmetry > > Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > > In ONE word, > > > > "Oh hells fucking NO!" > > > > I had fun at this party, but only because I always > have fun. > > I did not like this party at all. > > > > These are some points about the party. I have > divided them up into two > > separate categories... > > > > POSITIVE: ????? > > > > NEGATIVE: Ahem... > > > > Sound system was terrible. In the main > room, the system had next to > > nothing BASS. The music would have been more > enjoyable if i could have > > heard a beat, maybe. It was worse in the side > room. Hardcore needs BASS > > and it's an insult to book a hardcore DJ and put > him in a room with no > > BASS. It makes the production crew look bad too. > > > > The music was all right. It was the same > repetitious trancey beats. > > Lot's of fun after a few hours. Tires out very > soon. I thought this was > > Trance & JUNGLE factory? Where was all the Drum n > BASS? > > > > Candy Trash Kids where everywhere!!! Every > place I turned, I saw these > > dirty, smelly, yucky, little 16 year old kids that > I have never seen a > > party before. I asked like 3 of them how long they > have been going to > > parties and they said "For like, a couple months. > I love raves!" Of > > course they also where on e and smelled like they > had just swam in a > > pool of vics vapo rubb. Ah!!! Tacky!!! Shit... > where are all the > > hardcore party people??? > > > > 2nd & Jackson... Again!!! I feel like I > probably live there! Don't we > > know of any other locations in Oakland at least? > > > > Thank you for reading. Those have been my two > cents. > > > > =Paul*E*Wog > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 05:10:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5746 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 05:10:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5735 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 05:10:08 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 05:10:08 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-41.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.41]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA17864; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990412034251.006c6dc4@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:42:51 -0500 To: Paul*E*Wog From: Nuku Subject: Re: Big Opium Haul Seized in Singapore Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk O Ma GAWD I need ma fix dammit! What am I to Do! O the Humanity! O the Horror! Twitchy Cranky Nuku At 09:56 PM 4/11/99 -0700, you wrote: >.c The Associated Press > > SINGAPORE (AP) -- Singapore authorities made their largest opium bust >since >1990 on Sunday and crippled the island republic's biggest syndicate >dealing >in the drug, television news reported. > >Narcotics officers seized 40 slabs of opium weighing a total of 198 >pounds in >an early morning raid, the Television Corporation of Singapore said. > >Four men and a woman were arrested. If convicted, all face the death >penalty >under Singapore's strictly enforced drug trafficking laws. > >Singapore's Central Narcotics Bureau said it had been tracking the opium >syndicate since January. > >The republic has hanged more than 200 people for drug trafficking since >tough >drug laws took effect in 1975. > >AP-NY-04-11-99 2037EDT > > Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the >AP >news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise >distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 05:12:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7164 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 05:12:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 7154 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 05:12:20 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 05:12:20 -0000 Received: from [209.209.6.81] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10WZ13-0007PR-00; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:12:13 -0700 Message-ID: <000e01be84a2$488fbae0$5106d1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: "Mark" , "Paul*E*Wog" , Subject: Re: Does this party TiCKLE your fancy! Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:06:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All in favor or shooting Paul*E*Wog in his head please raise your hand.... . .. ... .... ..... ...... KA-BOOM >I thought they did as much as could be done at this party. > >Positives: For second and Jackson it was relatively Clean, well ventilated, plenty >of space to dance, they didn't oversell it. Decorations were good, perhaps a bit >too much lighting, but much much better then previous parties that had virtually >none at all. Overall good vibes, most people seemed pretty happy, lots of >dancing. > >Negatives: Music was generally the same fair as is to be expected. Demigod was >good, and I liked a few other sets...but overall was nothign particularly >special. I still gots bugged by lots of dealers, but that doesn't really bother >me anyhow, I have no trouble saying "nah" and walking off. > >Overall had fun, didn't expect much goin in, so I came out happy =:) > >symmetry > >Paul*E*Wog wrote: > >> In ONE word, >> >> "Oh hells fucking NO!" >> >> I had fun at this party, but only because I always have fun. >> I did not like this party at all. >> >> These are some points about the party. I have divided them up into two >> separate categories... >> >> POSITIVE: ????? >> >> NEGATIVE: Ahem... >> >> Sound system was terrible. In the main room, the system had next to >> nothing BASS. The music would have been more enjoyable if i could have >> heard a beat, maybe. It was worse in the side room. Hardcore needs BASS >> and it's an insult to book a hardcore DJ and put him in a room with no >> BASS. It makes the production crew look bad too. >> >> The music was all right. It was the same repetitious trancey beats. >> Lot's of fun after a few hours. Tires out very soon. I thought this was >> Trance & JUNGLE factory? Where was all the Drum n BASS? >> >> Candy Trash Kids where everywhere!!! Every place I turned, I saw these >> dirty, smelly, yucky, little 16 year old kids that I have never seen a >> party before. I asked like 3 of them how long they have been going to >> parties and they said "For like, a couple months. I love raves!" Of >> course they also where on e and smelled like they had just swam in a >> pool of vics vapo rubb. Ah!!! Tacky!!! Shit... where are all the >> hardcore party people??? >> >> 2nd & Jackson... Again!!! I feel like I probably live there! Don't we >> know of any other locations in Oakland at least? >> >> Thank you for reading. Those have been my two cents. >> >> =Paul*E*Wog > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 05:12:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7495 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 05:12:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 7388 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 05:12:28 -0000 Received: from web107.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 05:12:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412051416.13938.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.212.64.100] by web107.yahoomail.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:14:16 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:14:16 -0700 (PDT) From: lynz Subject: ODYSSEY SOUND 4/15?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what does everyone think of this party in North Beach? it's cheap, so it got ME interested... is it going to be 21+? Lynz === "I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 05:51:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26887 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 05:51:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 26861 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 05:51:40 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 05:51:40 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7HIOa23597; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:50:51 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:50:51 EDT Subject: Re: Big Opium Haul Seized in Singapore To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk damn..i think one of them is my gfs relative...oh damn hahaha dean* << Four men and a woman were arrested >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:01:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2179 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:01:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 2164 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:01:28 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:01:28 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vDEa015519; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:00:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: <69388038.2442e610@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:00:48 EDT Subject: Re: Re: TiCkLe!.... the titanic song To: AdidasXE7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Ezzm@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey all, That song is pretty annoying, but you have to admit, it is quite melodic. I'd say cool it for now, and play that track in a few years when everyone 's forgotten about the movie. "Wow" they'll say "that makes me want to find an etarded girl/boy and make out with her/him." That song will be the next binary finary(sarcasm) haha well i've had my fun later, Da soopa smak MO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:08:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6610 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:08:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 6598 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:08:49 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:08:49 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vBUMa27562 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:08:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:08:02 EDT Subject: Refunds for tickle To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Ezzm@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well i hope everyone had a good time at tickle3. Long story short: i got there at midnight i had a presale i had a crewpass i did not get in i waited i walked around it started to rain i leftwent to a friend's i slept till noon ANYHOW, my question is : What is the word this "over capacity" business? Did they sell too many tickets? did poeple sneak in ? Was conterfeiting a problem? and how do i get my refund? Thank you Da soopa (shit, i'm outside and can't get in )smak MO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:11:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9687 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:11:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 9676 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:11:17 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:11:17 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA02482 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990411231400.007e0d30@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:14:00 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: TiCkLe!.... the titanic song Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com >Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org > >Ok i'm not getting why everyone loves this song, I hated it when celine dion >did it and im not about to change my opinion just because itz a trance remix > >matthew > > I completely agree... icky movie... icky song. And she won grammys for this???? SOrry to bitch... Love, Carly :) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:19:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14394 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:19:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 14370 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:19:23 -0000 Received: from web115.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.88) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:19:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412062052.6128.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.202.53.208] by web115.yahoomail.com; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:20:52 PDT Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Violette Subject: Titanic song To: SF Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone I was hereing all this hype about the "titanic Mix" And i wanted to know if anyone has if on tape lemme know alright! Chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:23:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16490 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:23:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 16480 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:23:48 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:23:48 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vNYEa16609 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:23:07 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:23:07 EDT Subject: Re: Titanic song To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk would this be the same titanic song I hear M&M spinning at popsikle? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:24:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17258 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:24:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 17247 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:24:49 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:24:49 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rWXJa20343; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:24:09 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:24:09 EDT Subject: Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, CanContrl@aol.com, Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Girlfriend U sent the same email saturday and sunday. . . now what u be smokin?? :P!!!! hehe 4/10/99 6:53:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time u wrote the first time Yeah, hypocrite :p And the second In a message dated 4/11/99 11:19:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, thatpisces@yahoo.com writes: << > is that why u drove me home last night after we > smoked an 8th? > Hypocrite...=P~ Yeah, hypocrite :p > << PLease, I think that a person should NOT drive > while on ANY substance, be > it > acid, e, or nething . . . im sorry it happens. . . > just better safe than > sorry. . . > >> > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:37:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21006 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:37:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 20984 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:37:49 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:37:49 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA19790 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990411234035.007e2100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:40:35 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: re: NRR: bowling nite ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >i acutally went to a party at a bowling alley in sacramento last year...let >me tell you!....bowling in the black lights with music pounding in your ears >and sliding across the floor with slippery shoes on..it is the SHHEEIT of >SHHEEITS!.... > >~Sami :) > > Sac's Country Club Lanes has "Glo-Bowling" every sat nite. THey usually have a Dj who plays cheesy house on Cds... but they used to have a jungle nite on Weds. And they have turntable DJs for parties occasionally. Its fun... they turn out all the regular lights and turn on black-lights and you play with glowing balls and pins. But.. you still gotta wear those horrid shoes. I'm down for a bowling nite.... I stink tho... I'm lucky if I break 100... Hehe...Imagine a bunch of ravers in baggy pants and bowling shoes :) Geek chic ?? But last time I went there... I stuck my finger in the bowling ball and discovered chewed gum hiding.... EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANyways, Carly :) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:42:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24515 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:42:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 24500 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:42:15 -0000 Received: from mail-gw6.pacbell.net (206.13.28.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:42:15 -0000 Received: from fiveartists.com (ppp-206-170-29-143.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.29.143]) by mail-gw6.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id XAA18201 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371194D7.A4A587CE@fiveartists.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:38:16 -0700 From: Nemo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: Re: underground jabber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay, all this sentiment about the candy kids and all... i HAVE to put in my 2 cents now... i'm warning u all of this now, so if u don't care 4 my opinion, then just hit the "next" button. ^_^ i respect every "raver" all the same... but it doesn't matter where you go, there are ALWAYS going to be some people participating in a certain activity or whatever 4 the wrong reasons. or their logic is all fucked. sure, there r most likely TONS of ppl who go to raves just because they think it's the "in" thing to do, but there's always imperfections in every skin ya know? personally, i used to rave like last year, and the person i went with wasn't the funnest person to go raving with, so i sort of got out of going not too long after i started. and it wasn't just not fun going with him solely because he wasn't into the whole "E scene". i go with someone else now, and everything is just better... and it's all what makes you happy. i wear bracelets because people were nice enough to trade me or even personalize them for me, i wear them because if someone gives me some water, i'd like to return my gratitude with something a little more permanent than a hug. (dont' get me wrong, i LUVV huggs). i'm beginning to trail off, but i really dont' think there's any set standard of how a rave should be & a "typical raver" is just a figment of imagination. i go because i love the music and i'm very passionate about that sort of thing. I agree with a fair amount of the things that have been said, but neon and colorful necklaces won't improve your time anymore than a tab of E will. go and do whatever it takes to be happy. find whatever your thing is. who cares what anyone else thinks. I just dont' think any of this is important. I have a certain distaste for holy rollers, BUT-- i respect them enough for at least following in what they believe in. their conviction alone makes them respectable. It's all a question of who has the weak mind or not. and from how long i've been on the list... no one here has that problem. i'm going to end this now even though i could go on for quite a bit more. please just all use know, that i'm trying so hard not to offend anyone. i hate pissing people off. really, i do. ^_^ A N T O N the Panda Boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:47:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25998 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:47:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 25990 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:47:53 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:47:53 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.82] (haiti-82.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.82]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA03276 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:47:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:52:25 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Subject: MAZE Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk MAZE TRIBAL TECHNO TRANCE A MONTHLY PARTY WORLD CLASS DJS STARTING FRIDAY, MAY 21 *proudly announced by the people who brought you San Francisco's most fun underground parties, the Silly series... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:50:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28736 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:50:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 28719 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:50:32 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:50:32 -0000 Received: from DnBbaebeee@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vSROa15514 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:49:37 -0400 (EDT) From: DnBbaebeee@aol.com Message-ID: <348cb447.2442f181@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:49:37 EDT Subject: Re: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!! :( sad To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: DnBbaebeee@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't know why you bother anymore, Paul. Your sarcasm isn't appreciated by the majority of people on this list. But it's not wasted on me, I love it and am glad you are back =) *kerrie* In a message dated 4/10/99 8:54:56 PM EST, youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com writes: << fuck you. fuck your mom. fuck your little "I'm-here-to-piss-people-off-and-see-how-far-i-can-get" prissy junior high school attidute. say that shit to my face and you better be backing it up with more than words, Mister looking for shit and will find it in places he least expects. carry on. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 06:53:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 616 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 06:53:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 603 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 06:53:35 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 06:53:35 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01639 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990411235621.007eac40@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:56:21 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Does this party TiCKLE your fancy! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: Paul*E*Wog > > 2nd & Jackson... Again!!! I feel like I probably live there! Don't we >know of any other locations in Oakland at least? > I have to agree with this one.... I havent been to many parties lately just cause I cant really deal with 2nd and Jackson. It seems like that is pretty much where the parties are staying for the moment. Is this really all there is in the East Bay??? I hope someone can be inventive and find some virgin location .... otherwise I'm gonna hafta start liking 2nd & Jackson.... Pickers cant be choosers I gueess. Ah well.... See at Harmony, Carly :) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 07:17:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8549 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 07:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8536 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 07:17:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 07:17:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 35505 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 1999 07:16:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412071636.35504.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:16:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: JUNGurlE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Titanic song Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:16:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this is the song that mars and mystre ALWAYS play. it's getting kinda old, but i like it still (mainly when i'm on E, and then i like everything! :P). love LuSh SnOOpiE ;P >From: JUNGurlE@aol.com >Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Titanic song >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:23:07 EDT > >would this be the same titanic song I hear M&M spinning at popsikle? Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 07:17:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9213 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 07:17:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 9201 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 07:17:36 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 07:17:36 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA19408 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: tickle.... Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:14:13 -0400 Message-ID: <01be849a$ec385f60$4a5fc998@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01BE8479.6526BF60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01BE8479.6526BF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable well that was my first rave at 2nd and jackson. (seeing how i didnt' = even get into popsickle with a presale) it was alright. it was hella = bright and the music wasn't all that loud-- even when i was dancing = right next to the speakers. i was sorta expecting more cause i thought = it was suppose to be the "big one." plus, i never heard so many = pop/popular music being play at a rave like last night. man i thought = there were gonna bust out with some puff daddy or summin. but overall i = had a fun time and met some awesome people. so now who's going to harmony? anyone know the location of that? and i = think more raves should be at that warehouse where the gathering was. = that place kicked asz. latz.. chris ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01BE8479.6526BF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

well that was my first rave at 2nd = and=20 jackson.  (seeing how i didnt' even get into popsickle with a=20 presale)   it was alright.  it was hella bright and the = music=20 wasn't all that loud-- even when i was dancing right next to the = speakers. =20 i was sorta expecting more cause i thought it was suppose to be the = "big=20 one."   plus, i never heard so many pop/popular music = being play=20 at a rave like last night.  man i thought there were gonna bust out = with=20 some puff daddy or summin. but overall i had a fun time and met some = awesome=20 people.
 
so now who's going to harmony?  = anyone know=20 the location of that?  and i think more raves should be at that = warehouse=20 where the gathering was.  that place kicked asz.
 
latz.. = chris
------=_NextPart_000_006A_01BE8479.6526BF60-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 07:41:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18777 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 07:41:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18768 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 07:41:45 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 07:41:45 -0000 Received: from BikeChicky@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vANLa18505 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:40:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BikeChicky@aol.com Message-ID: <1040c50f.2442fd83@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:40:51 EDT Subject: Tickle To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Reply-To: BikeChicky@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I guess I got what I expected from Tickle. There is one thing that I want to mention that really makes me mad.... WATER! I do not mind paying $2 for my first bottle of water, however a party that costs $20 should atleast have free water to fill bottles up. When I went to the water table to ask when they were going to put out the water tank the reply I got was, "We will put it out when we feel like it." I left at around 5 and they still had yet to put a cooler out. The same thing happened towards the end of F-8 when the guy at the water booth said, "You can buy a bottle of water, but I dont feel like filling the tank up. I am tired." Basically, the absense of a free H20 tank is just ridiculous. Anyway, thats just my two cents about water at costly parties. ~Amanda From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 07:57:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24094 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 07:57:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 24082 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 07:57:22 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 07:57:22 -0000 Received: from BabyChinoZ@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vKPLa23591 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:56:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Message-ID: <733a90ce.24430143@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:56:51 EDT Subject: Tickle ma.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok so i didn't buy presales but still got in. Lucky me considering a lot of people were cutting in line! =P Might i add rite now... some people don't like being that close to others and it dosn't help to shove and push... Us little kids need room. Thats the most negative thing i have about the evening besides getting bumped everytime i started to dance. I got in and as usual had to go pottie! =) Despite the fact i even when when i left home. I saw some faces I hadn't seen in a while. Sorry i missed a lot of people on SFR. I just tend to like getting on the floor and then can't get off. Besides i can't hear anything except the music at the parties. So if you saw some kid in a bluish vest with a white SC hat thinking he's dancing good! that's me! I was able to catch the end of DJ D's set... and was glad... um... dose that song she played last remind anyone else of the game Stryder? Thomas played a damn good set. And I had fun just not even bothering to find out who was playing cause i was dancing ma little heart away. And let me tell you it's tiring. On a side note... i've noticed more people doin the partie thing... but less parties. Or am I wrong? I am no expert at all. I haven't been doing this for very long but I remeber ma first partie at 2nd and Jackson... F8 in December98 and there was at least room for people to dance and lounge without getting in the way of each other. Peace out -tyson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 10:25:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 155 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 10:25:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 146 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 10:25:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.59) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 10:25:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 80672 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 1999 10:25:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412102520.80671.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.142.2.5 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:25:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.142.2.5] From: "Blixa Karma" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: My life :-] Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:25:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's late, and I hate this part of the night. This is the time my mind starts to take me through the history of me. At 26, father of one and a divorce'. What the f*** have I accomplished? Who am I? Sure, I've DONE alot. More so than others, less than some(at my age), and a whole lot more than anybody I know. I've been around the world, and stopped most places twice. I've seen war and survived, witnessed the splendor of the Northern Lights and been humbled. I have been in love and have been loved. I HAVE CREATED A NEW LIFE. I've been married, and (happily) divorced. At 26 I have done more in my short life than most. But is that all? Am I only the sum of my accomplishments - what I have done - or am I more? What is it that defines me? My accomplishments, or how I react to those accomplishments? Its 3:00 am. Who am I. I am Matthew, son of Candus. Easy enough. What am I? In grade school I was the new kid. In Jr. high I was outcast. In high school I was the school dork. As a teenager I was riddiculed.-Ask me why! I have no clue,(If you popular people dont know how that feels I suggest you read "Ham on Rye" by CHARLES BUKOWSKI, it hits home for all of us dorks!),I just was.- In the Army I was respected as a leader. As a raver I am known as "Julie Mae's husband/boyfriend" By the way, if you care, my name is Matthew. What is it that makes us who we are. If we are mearly the sum of our actions I am a poor soul. I did not act well as the school dork. Or the new kid, or the army soldier. When I was in the army-'89-'93, my brother told me about raves. On Febuary 4th, 1993, my brother took me to my first rave(Cyberfest at the Fashon Center), years later I met my wife at a Cool World New Years Eave party.Now I have a kid. Now things have changed. Now I am a dad. Alexia calls me her "Best Friend". .......TO BE CONTINUED...... Yo' Mamas BiTHC Inc. Mateo Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 14:49:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15670 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 14:49:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 15653 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 14:49:48 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 14:49:48 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vPHHa22984; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:48:35 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:48:35 EDT Subject: Re: Tickle To: BikeChicky@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the water thig was out in the begining... but around 2-3ish it was gone, i asked the guy there and he said the faucet was broken or somethng like that... although i doubt that that is true... oh well love and hugs and kisses, tina ps thankx to all who shared their water, and thankx aryck for the dollar to get my own!!! In a message dated 4/12/99 12:43:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, BikeChicky@aol.com writes: << I guess I got what I expected from Tickle. There is one thing that I want to mention that really makes me mad.... WATER! I do not mind paying $2 for my first bottle of water, however a party that costs $20 should atleast have free water to fill bottles up. When I went to the water table to ask when they were going to put out the water tank the reply I got was, "We will put it out when we feel like it." I left at around 5 and they still had yet to put a cooler out. The same thing happened towards the end of F-8 when the guy at the water booth said, "You can buy a bottle of water, but I dont feel like filling the tank up. I am tired." Basically, the absense of a free H20 tank is just ridiculous. Anyway, thats just my two cents about water at costly parties. ~Amanda >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 15:06:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24182 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 15:06:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24168 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 15:06:18 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 15:06:18 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Mon Apr 12 08:05:42 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:05:42 -0800 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: TiCkLe! X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.172 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Right on Aaron, That story is exactly what raves are all about...you cant worry if everyone is having fun, just tap the person next to you and make sure he/she is smiling and I'll bet the rest of the night they are happy... Peace da'Wolf -- On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:22:30 OoNOTlKo0 wrote: >i have to agree there. tickle was a good frickin party. i was totally hyped >up for demigod and i kinda felt let down in a sense. i always do this, i get >all expectant and then i overestimate the experince before im even there. i >think i was more thinking i would be able to actually HEAR the hardcore but >it came out kinda mushy and noisy fer me (happy hardcore better be different! > :P other than that im glad i could just walk into the next room and enjoy >some more trance. although i did miss dj d (AGAIN DAMNIT!) i still had a >blast. > so when i was sitting down this guy named charly came up and started >talking to me and i HAVE to spread his story!... > >"once there was a beach. on the beach were tens of thousands of starfish >that were washed up and dying on the sand. this man walked up and picked up >a starfish and trhew it in the ocean, then he stooped down and picked up >another one and threw it in the ocean. he was doing this for a little while >when another man came up and said, "what do u think ur accomplishing?! ull >never make any difference justthrowing one in at a time hell ur not gonna >make any difference whatsoever so give it up!" the man turned around and >said "oh yeah?" picked up a starfish and threw it into the ocean "i made a >difference for that one."" > >that story changed me so much hope it did thah same fer some of u. > >-aaron > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 15:23:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1431 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 15:23:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 1418 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 15:22:58 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 15:22:58 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Mon Apr 12 08:21:59 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, MoonChyld1@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:21:59 -0800 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: tina's tickle review X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.200 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Tina, >From a reliable source the girl (who was only 15 years old) passed out from too much partying, but they were able to get her up and past the cops and home where she belonged...they said she was fine...there was also another guy (about 20) with the same problem but he wasnt so lucky, but I'm not sure what became of him... Come on people be careful... Peace da'Wolf PS I also took some E so I'm not talking out of my ass! -- On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:28:15 MoonChyld1 wrote: > well well well, i've said it before, and i'll say it again, thomas >really knows how to throw a great party! so i knew i was gonna enjoy this >parrty, since the last tickle back in august was such an incredible >experience.... so with my presale in hand, i set off to 2nd and jax around >9ish (meeting a friend who had no ticket yet).... got a lil lost, cuz i took >5th off of 880 and that spot where you usually turn was blocked off by the >train crossing arms, and flares..... but i found my way there shortly after. > got inside and got my free glowstick!!! yay! how fun was that? and >got to look around before it got really crowded.... for some reason it seemed >bigger than usual... which was nice... the fans helped a lot too.... the >lights were cool for the most part, but i have to be honest i didn't pay too >much attention to decorations and lighting.... > the party had a good vibe... i didn't get bugged about drugs from >strangers as much as i usually do there, so that was nice.... got to see a >lot of sfr kids, ryan, val, aryck, jenn, vlad, mandi, and a few others that >i'm blanking on at the moment.. sorry!! =) > my nite started out kinda yucky cuz the e i got was too strong and >for the first time ever made me sick, but after a lil while i felt all better >and got to enjoy the rest of my nite.. i had good friends watching out for me >that whole time, so i wasn't too concerned... although laterr on in the nite, >i saw some girl being carried out of the 2nd room towards the exit, from some >kinda od, i'd guess since her eyes were rolled back and her body was just >kinda limp and flailing about.... anyone know what happened to this girl?? >sshe had really short blonde hair..... > oh and the thing that disgusted me-- i met this girl who had been >thrown down by some guy and had a fat lip and the skin all around her eye >was scratched up and starting to scab over..... i felt so bad for her... some >random violent fool just threw her.... > otherwise everything was perfect! the music wass great, the love was >definatley there!! i am too tired to be writing this so i'm sorry if it >sounds odd... i hope those of you that went last nite had a really good time, >and those of you junglists out at audio impact danced your booties off!!!! >and those of you who opted for a nite at ome, or out with someone special, >orr just with friends had a beautiful nite as well!!! > >love and hugs and kisses, >tina > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 15:23:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1619 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 15:23:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 1474 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 15:23:02 -0000 Received: from f99.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.235) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 15:23:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 58016 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 1999 15:22:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412152235.58015.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:22:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: echo@hooked.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:22:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk whoo hooo!!! can you say Tim Taylor Missle records UK.. The sillie crew brought out tim taylor and billy F!@#$ nasty of tortured records UK. two of the most sought after tekno producers.. Can't wait.. See ya, Macadio >From: je >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:47:14 -0800 > > MAZE > > TRIBAL TECHNO TRANCE > > A MONTHLY PARTY > > WORLD CLASS DJS > > STARTING IN MAY > > > > >*proudly announced by the people who brought you San Francisco's most fun >underground parties, the Silly series... > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 15:38:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12210 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 15:38:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 12200 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 15:38:17 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 15:38:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412154141.26740.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:41:41 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:41:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Titanic song To: Chris Violette , SF Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if M&M have mixed the theme from Dynasty yet? I predicted it two months back, I wonder ??? jess --- Chris Violette wrote: > Hey everyone I was hereing all this hype about the > "titanic Mix" And i wanted to know if anyone has if > on > tape lemme know alright! > > Chris > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 16:00:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26648 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 16:00:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 26627 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 16:00:41 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 16:00:41 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca37-35.ix.netcom.com [207.92.174.35]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27389; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37121860.51765B7B@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:59:28 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DnBbaebeee@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!!:( sad References: <348cb447.2442f181@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think I bother because I am very bored. Anyways, my doctor said I wouldn't get so many nose bleeds if i kept my finger out of there. Um yeah... =Paul*E*Wog DnBbaebeee@aol.com wrote: > > I don't know why you bother anymore, Paul. Your sarcasm isn't appreciated by > the majority of people on this list. But it's not wasted on me, I love it and > am glad you are back =) > > *kerrie* > > In a message dated 4/10/99 8:54:56 PM EST, youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com > writes: > > << fuck you. > > fuck your mom. > > fuck your little > "I'm-here-to-piss-people-off-and-see-how-far-i-can-get" prissy junior > high school attidute. > > say that shit to my face and you better be backing it up with more than > words, Mister looking for shit and will find it in places he least > expects. > > carry on. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 16:13:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3749 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 16:13:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 3741 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 16:13:49 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd102.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.166) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 16:13:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 28664 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 1999 16:13:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412161322.28663.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.184.96 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:13:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.184.96] From: "Justin Hale" To: Juju0322@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Spacegirl Interview Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:13:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry, i posted the wrong address... the spacegirl interview is on the ravelinks page www.ravelinks.com i think under the new stuff tab... sorry. www.selekta.com has the new interview with Terry Mullan. justin >From: Juju0322@aol.com >Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com >To: simplycosmic@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: cutie Dj's >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:44:00 EDT > >where is the interview, i cant find it >-Stephanie Marie- > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 16:18:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5414 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 16:18:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5388 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 16:18:14 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 16:18:14 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id JAA28876; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990412161744.00d0a0f0@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:17:44 -0700 To: From: Isaac Labugen Subject: Re: (late) Children of the Sun review... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk gEoff, In response to your post about our party on April 3rd. Our goal with this party was to bring a small number of individuals together and celebrate our one year anniversary. We wanted to create an intimate evening with good music, free fruit and lemonade, and beautiful people. Pretty simplistic. The Location & Shuttles: This was obviously an underground, and therefore needed to be kept discreet. Which is why we used shuttles to lesson the impact on the neighborhood. The shuttle drivers worked there asses of to insure you a safe ride to and from the party. Which became increasingly difficult when peoples fathers are looking for them? In short, while most people were having a good time- these folks were ditching cops, fathers, asteroids, etc. Much props guys! As far as setting up since friday- well most UG places have business during the week, which makes set up very fast, stressed out, and difficult.(DAY OF) THE PEOPLE: I really wanted to address this issue since you make it a clear question. Where Did These People Come From? The answer to this question is actually very simple. We promoted at only small to medium sized events. A few that come to mind would be the recent harmony parties(Jan 15 & Feb 6 + rebirth), warmth undergrounds, F8, Conscious Session(s), and some other small parties I cant remember. The majority of our promotion was done through our Free Fruit and Lemonade booths that you may or may not have seen at many recent parties. The biggest party we promoted at was the happy kids 2 year. NO TRADE PUBLICATION. So as you can see, these "people" you refer to- you actually party with on a regular basses and probably just never noticed. Now- singing the roof is on fire, I do not recommend for anybody to do- especially at a party. But we cannot control a bunch of people having an extremely good time, not to mention the fact that this is the first I heard about it. The staffs main focus the entire evening was to insure a bust free party. (sound patrol, parking patrol, people od'ing, etc.) Anyways, if you want to avoid these "people"- then Good Luck. It's kind of hard to select attendees when this is an open and free scene to whom ever chooses to attend / join. Gangsters - og's regularly visit 2nd/jackson and homebass, and it's a factor you just have to deal with. So, hopefully this clears things up and at the very least some explanations on the mystery's of this party. We are doing another underground on may 21st. It's limited capacity and there will be some more info to follow... ***Regardless, whether you like us or not- I hope you and everyone else will be attending the "harmony spring time flower festival". Definitely not to be missed. The production for this party is guaranteed 110% to blow your mind. I don't mean to turn this into a bsp for harmony, however they are the main reason why I'm in this scene :) We will be serving free fruit and others goodies so come on by and get refreshed. See you all out there! isaac:) PS. and regarding the girl who took a little to much. She was not responsible and made decisions that nearly put the party in Danger. Regardless of where you decide to party, use common sense. If you have not eaten all day, have heart problems, and on penicillin- it's probably not a wise idea to experiment. At 11:41 AM 4/10/99 -0700, you wrote: >what a weird ass party! > >Sorry this is late in coming, but I've been on the road... but this party >definitely needs a review. > >First major props to Chris... it really warmed Skye and my heart (and those >around us) to see >you, a total stranger to the girl who had obviously taken too much of >something, show total compassion >and care for her... from the "hey are you OK" to going to the hospital with >her (and the bathroom with her) >when it became obvious that she was in some need of some help..... super >reaffirming in humanity type stuff... > >what a weird ass party! We had heard cool things about it... about >shuttling, UG location, well put together type >stuff... so we bought tix and headed over. Parked at 2nd and Cartheft, >hopped into the van. Really nice driver, >kind of spyish to be shuttled around. The driver said that the crew had >been working on this party for a long time, >since FRIDAY. (HUH?) Oh well I thought it must've been a slip or a >mistake. Starting on a party one day before? >nah. > >Got to the location. My first time there (quite a feat to be said for >partying in the bay area these days). there were >a lot of people. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE there. packed. Props for the >freee drinks (tangonade?) the shuttling >and security portion was really well done. nice peeps, well organized, well >executed. > >My question was... where the hell did those people come from? whats up with >"the house... the house... the house is on >fire...... " and the "muther fuker yeaaaah yeaaaaaaah in yo face" screaming >frat boys just got out of a bar crowd? you saw >them. as someone said... it is a BAD IDEA to combine E with testosterone!!! >no Shit! another thing said... "such a funny drug... >e... while you're on it you love everyone around you, but are for some >reason more inclined to be even more rude and pushy >around those same people". no kidding again. ;) the bouncy floor was kind >of neat-but sounded like the DJs nightmare. > >At least we know that Thomas Trouble can scratch now eh? right in the >middle of breakdowns several times the needles >lifted / skipped / scratched across the records.... ouch! > >but the wierdest thing was the people. It looked as if about 30% of the >place were first time ravers, with no clue to what >anything is about, and REALLY high. High out of their heads. One girl had >to go to the hospital. She had taken "roughnecks" >her friend Mo was a character too. This guy laying on the floor was >screaming up to people "Hey I'm Mo I'm high!!! I'm High!" >thanks Mo. we know. He then told us that he couldn't feel pain. as he >banged his HEAD on the concrete floor 5 times in a row >to show us. Then he told us about the roughnecks, about how he (and how he >told all his friends) about preloading his E-xperiene >with 5HTP, and by NOT eating for a whole day before. I'm sure this "advice" >helped his friend go to the hospital. there were so many >more small groups of people, who screamed "outsider" or "I'm here for the >drugs" that were high, reduced to babbling people sitting >in corners and on the floor. Inside the main area we had the gangsters / >vanilla ice wanna bees that wanted to break, slam, spin, >and push all of us out of the way. It was not fun being there. > >The music? Andys set was pretty cool. Nice visuals I must add. the Star >wars trailer was pretty cool. ;) Gregs set was >cool old skool and clean too. thomas? hmmgh. interesting. the bouncing >floor must've made it hard... but there were a few >did he beat match that? mixes in there... ;) > >I know the girl going to the hospital held thiungs up with the shuttles back >to the cars... understandable. But even up to the very >end when we left there were sweaty push people being very rude inside, and >people so high as to be out of their minds laying on the carpet >in the chill area... and then there was Mo. > >I wonder what trade publication or magazine that the promoters placed an add >in? I really wanna avoid that kind of crowd >at all future parties again! I still don't understand the "the house..... >the house.... let the muther (*&ker burn) screaming" > >odd stuff > >heh > >thanks again Chris for taking the time and caring enough to take care of the >girl... do the promoters have an update as to >why / what happened and if she's OK? > >gEoff ;) > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 16:25:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11610 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 16:25:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 11573 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 16:25:34 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 16:25:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412162342.3893.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [24.4.254.67] by web4; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:23:42 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:23:42 -0700 (PDT) From: General E Subject: HELP i need a HOST for www.ravelinks.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I run www.ravelinks.com and i just found out that my ISP can no longer host my site because I have exceeded their monthly traffic limit by about five times. My site is not even a year old and it is getting roughly 25 gigabytes a month and is about 300 megs in size. I need to get ravelinks back on line ASAP. If ANYONE on this list can help me find an inexpensive Host (like RIGHT AWAY) that can handle my current and future bandwidth, please let me know! I would really appreciate it. Thanks for your help! -Don (aka General E) www.ravelinks.com (temporarily offline) 619-654-8588 email me at: general-e@rocketmail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 16:59:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9317 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 16:59:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 9304 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 16:59:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 16:59:35 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 127 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:57:32 -0700 Message-ID: <371229A3.129DDBE8@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:13:08 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Re: full moon dates? References: <19990410215600.23318.qmail@hyperreal.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the list says friday the 16th, the site says april 30th. both.? which one?? wtf? There was a mistake on the calander. Full Moon will be on Friday April 30th. John Rodriguez Balance Productions http://www.SFHouse.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 17:12:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14935 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 17:12:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14924 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 17:11:59 -0000 Received: from f191.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.80) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 17:11:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 55597 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 1999 17:11:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412171116.55596.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:11:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: My Ticklish review Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:11:13 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I got to the location at around 8:45 cause me and my partner were doing some stuff in berkley and decided to stop by on our way back to the SB to see how thomas was doing with his party. There was a freakin line at about 8:45 of ravers I was like what the F@#$% the party was not to start for like another hour and half and people are already lineing up in the rain that is some dedication people or maybe they did not have pre-sales hehehe.. Thomas and krew did a good job at decor the keltic banners and knot work was really groovy I like Celtic artwork and it was nice to see some nice work up. There was another kewl thing that most people probably did not notice my buddy Sonti was doing live Airbrush art while the partying was going. He created a black light responsive painting. That was kewl have not seen that since the Last wonder party at the dore location. I go home and come back like an hour later and they say the party is sold out!!?? I had to hagle with the security and I told them if they don't let me in that I would have to do some of my kung fu on them. Unfortunately they did not think that was funny I think one of them wanted to kick my skinny little ass. I had them get stacy and it was all good. Anywayz back to the party it was really packed but I don't think it was to capacity there was about 1,800 peeps ruff guess. The music was slamming my boy joaqman was throwing down as well as DJ D and Demigod I did not think I liked hardcore but the way he played it was kewl. Overall it was ok but not to the complaints: It seemed as if there was a lot more people offering substances then usual. I got asked if I wanted things I have never even heard of. One guy asked me if I wanted an "RN" I said a sexy nurse hell ya.. He did not think it was that funny :-( so that was not to fun every which way I turned I got offered something I guess it was just one of those nights that everyone had to get paid. The kicker to the whole evening was when on of the party goers threw up on me. I was standing by gregs booth talking to someone and this gurl rushes by and as I try to step out of her way she lunges forward and before I can completly move she threw up on my pants. At first I got totally pissed off but then calmed down the gurl was down on the ground and she looked like she wanted to die. I asked if she was ok she mentioned she took some real strong E and I went and got her some water sat with her for a second then got her friends to help take care of her. All and all it was ok I have had better times but I have had worse times as well. Thomas put on a kewl party.. See ya at Har-Mo-knee Macadio Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 17:45:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2643 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 17:45:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2632 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 17:45:12 -0000 Received: from f78.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.184) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 17:45:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 58738 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 1999 17:45:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412174513.58737.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.255.84.240 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:45:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.255.84.240] From: "Natasha 426" To: macadio@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Macadio's Ticklish review Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:45:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mackdaddio wrote: <> I remember that party!! Man, that was SUCH a good time!! Decorations were beautiful, I met so many wonderful people that night who I am still friends with now...including Mr. Daddio himself (hai, maya, jeremy, trice, vlad, boomerang & jamie, andyw, herb...who else?) << The kicker to the whole evening was when one of the party goers threw up on me. I was standing by gregs booth talking to someone and this gurl rushes by and as I try to step out of her way she lunges forward and before I can completly move she threw up on my pants. >> lolololol!! Now, and only now, do I truly wish I was at the party, if only to see this !! (J/K) :P Is she OK? Or, better yet...are your pants?? [ Not to belittle the real issue (too many dealers and unresponsible partiers), but I just couldn't resist, Macadio... :) ] happy monday :> natasha Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 18:08:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12510 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 18:08:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12501 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:08:21 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:08:21 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vLIYa16615 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:05:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:05:44 EDT Subject: tickle 3 review!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok.... i think tickle 3 was a good party, but could have been better. i had a really good time at the beggining of the night, but by around 3 i wasnt feeling to great so i went to the car and slept while waiting for my friends to leave. that was my best decision ever. it was too hot at 2nd and jackson, once again. we really need to find some new locations or something.... it seems that almost every party is at 2nd and jackson lately! oh well. i heard from different people that this party was more crowded then popsikle, and from others that it wasnt, i still think it was a little over crowded. but the vibe was good, everyone there seemed to be having a good time (except those few who were throwing up) i met a lot of new people at this rave, and there were also a lot of people there who hadnt been to a rave yet, i tried to show them as good of a time that i was showed at my first rave. well all in all it was a good party, i just htink i had my hopes up for a better one and got a little dissapointed. hope to see you all at harmony next weekend! love, hugs and vapor rub, trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 18:10:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14366 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 18:10:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 14349 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:10:32 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:10:32 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vITNa22983 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:08:30 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:08:30 EDT Subject: attn: Harmony crew To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay here's the story....I've been raving for like 3 and a half years... never been denied enterance to a party until this past weekend (Tickle 3).... I was devestated.... in fact I wouldn't accept it... I knew there was a way to get in sheit... i had a presale and all.... n e ways I was wrong... and after freezing my ass off for like 45 min. I finally gave up and went home defeated.... Well to make a long story short... my question to the Harmony crew is... I attended your last party, which may I add was off da hook!... n e way... r u guys REALLY gonna control the # of tix sold?? I have to work again on Sat and will be a little late... am i REALLY gonna get in with my presale or am I gonna be forced to go through the same refund bullshit and dissapointment bullshit from this past weekend??? please tell me u guys have learned you lesson from all the other crews mistakes.... BTW: two thumbs up and a big hug to the silverpearl crew for having like the only non over-packed and/or over-sold party of the month!!! =) - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 18:17:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18578 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 18:17:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 18548 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:17:33 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:17:33 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vICJa01910 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:15:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <3ded643f.24439238@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:15:20 EDT Subject: Re: underground jabber To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think to all there own. people act to what there experience was at there first raves, or so i did. at my first rave i was given a lot of cndy, and that made me feel accepted, and that the people there cared. after my first rave i had decided that i wanted to gigve that love back out to others, adn that is why i make bracelets. i dont keep any of the bracelets i make i give those out to people that i meet adn want to share my happiness with, i wear the candy that was given to me becasue i like them, it doesnt mean i am in a category about what type of raver i am, i just dress differently. as long as everyone raving has fun, then everyone should be happy! dont get mad at people for not dressing like yoU! love, hugs, and vapor rub, trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 18:20:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22314 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 18:20:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22102 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:20:11 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:20:11 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vJUEa27509; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <5f830747.2443930e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:54 EDT Subject: Re: Tickle To: BikeChicky@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree. i think that they should always hove out the cooler to fill up your water bottles. its not right to charge 2 dollars a bottle everytime you want something to drink. when i went to the water bar at around 250 they said they were going to have to cooler back out at around 3, so i waited a little while, then when i asked again they said they proably werent going to have it back out! whast with that???!??! i just dontthink its right. i hope they will improve this at more parties! trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 18:21:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24049 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 18:21:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 24041 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:21:14 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:21:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412182515.25352.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:25:15 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:25:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: attn: Harmony crew To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I love Harmony for the fact that there will be a limited capacity of 1500. Please take this as a very, very, very good thing. --- KaNdeEKlD@aol.com wrote: > Okay here's the story....I've been raving for like 3 > and a half years... > never been denied enterance to a party until this > past weekend (Tickle 3).... > I was devestated.... in fact I wouldn't accept it... > I knew there was a way > to get in sheit... i had a presale and all.... n e > ways I was wrong... and > after freezing my ass off for like 45 min. I finally > gave up and went home > defeated.... Well to make a long story short... my > question to the Harmony > crew is... I attended your last party, which may I > add was off da hook!... n > e way... r u guys REALLY gonna control the # of tix > sold?? I have to work > again on Sat and will be a little late... am i > REALLY gonna get in with my > presale or am I gonna be forced to go through the > same refund bullshit and > dissapointment bullshit from this past weekend??? > please tell me u guys have > learned you lesson from all the other crews > mistakes.... BTW: two thumbs up > and a big hug to the silverpearl crew for having > like the only non > over-packed and/or over-sold party of the month!!! > =) - Jenn > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 18:35:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1512 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 18:35:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 1500 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:35:01 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:35:01 -0000 Received: from BoyInSJ18@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7JJCa20332; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:34:25 -0400 (EDT) From: BoyInSJ18@aol.com Message-ID: <3dedc0ac.244396b1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:34:25 EDT Subject: Re: Driving Drunk...Re: Please read and think about your choices!!:( sad To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: BoyInSJ18@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyways, my doctor said I wouldn't get so many nose bleeds if i kept my finger out of there. Was that from the Simpsons? =) Wenci From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 18:37:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3333 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 18:37:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 3088 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:36:43 -0000 Received: from hissy-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO hissy.excite.com) (198.3.99.229) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:36:43 -0000 Received: from canyon.excite.com ([199.172.152.178]) by hissy.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990412183554.JPEZ29310.hissy@canyon.excite.com> for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:35:54 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Some constants in life... Message-Id: <923942155.24331.284@excite.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:35:55 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here are some things that seem to never change... 1. Paul-E-Wog ... always the same little loudmouthed shit-stirrer... only the funniest part, to me anyway, Paul, is that now you're bitching about little candy kid ravers who you think have no originality... hey, they're just following the trends you helped to set (and are still pursuing) ... i know it feels like now *you're* the old-skool raver, and they're the wanna-be's... but you're fooling yourself, Paul. what's really happening is that you're looking at *yourself* when you see these kids. believe me, they're going through exactly what you have (even to the details of being f*ks up at 2nd & Jackson). let them have their experience, and move forward with your efforts to become the grownup we really trust is inside just waiting to bust out... i have all the faith in the world you can do it!! 2. whoever thinks they drive better stoned than sober is also in the "fooling themselves" category... please folks, that's crap. altering your perceptions and senses does NOT lead to safer driving... in all my years, i have NEVER met someone who drives better on ANY substance than sober... and stoners are the WORST... bad judgment for timing for lane changes, driving too slow or too fast... don't confuse *enjoying* driving more with driving *better*... this is TOO IMPORTANT TO IGNORE!! Don't do it!! No leeway on this one!! 3. This whole thing on piercing and tattooing and "the good old days" and "ug" vs mainstream is really interesting... and similar to the rave scene in how popularity can make some people lose interest in what the did because it used to make them "different".... when tattooing first got really popular, some of my friends asked me if i would lose interest in it as more and more suburban mainstream types got tattoos.... i say HELL NO ... same with piercing ... i do what i do because it's who i am ... and that is not dependent on simply being ahead of the crowd or whatever.... i chose tattoos that make me MORe of myself and that won't change with a surge in popularity... same with piercing... though my personal tastes have changed and evolved, it has very little to do with what's trendy .... because that ain't what it's about to me.... and i think there still is a piercing underground of sorts, since so much of body piercing is not visible and not discussed... which is fine, becasue it's a personal topic really. anyway... i went to wicked friday night... not a fluro pattern or glowstick to be seen (ok, one guy wiht *one* glowstick around 2:30 am)... good music, not great, but a drinking crowd, got a bit in the way.... and the sound system was too loud and buzzing... but it is all about th e music anyway, so i'm always happy to be there so i can dance! though it does make me wistful for the dark nasty beat-heavy nights at the wicked of old! have a great week everyone=! happy monday! leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 18:54:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17220 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 18:54:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 17201 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:54:19 -0000 Received: from web502.yahoomail.com (HELO send501.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:54:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412185611.22808.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web502.yahoomail.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:56:11 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: METROPOLIS To: "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." , "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh man...i just got a huge flyer for this rave on may 29th called METROPOLIS. It looks like its going to be phat...and its at the Base, seven rooms, the Pharcyde is going to be performing, jungle, jamalski, rinse & flux, breakbeats, donald glaude!!!, terry mullan, i'm excited just thinking about it!!!! OH! anyways, is anyone going to this???? sherri :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 19:00:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20315 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 18:59:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 20305 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 18:59:57 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 18:59:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412184337.22721.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.245] by web1; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:43:36 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:43:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: Audio Impact SF last night To: Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Cc: breaks@xmission.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, here I go... Going into Audio Impact, I was some what excited to see Phantom 45 perform; last time I heard him at Bright Beats I was very impressed. I arrived around 12 pm, rinse was playing, immadiately Jamalski was begining to get on my nerves. He was obvioulsly not sober, his flowing was tired, and he just seemed downright tacky. I'm sorry but Jamalski behavior made this event boring, and almost uneventful. Some highlights were Flux's Dubplate of "Music Sounds Betta With You", MCDUH performance, and Phantom 45 (w/out Jamalski Rewind). Sorry to be down, but I was extremly dissapointed with the event especially after past excellent Audio Impact events. =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 19:00:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21915 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 19:00:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 21746 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 19:00:29 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 19:00:29 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vSOWa22985 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:59:04 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <6d1c6ff9.24439c78@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:59:04 EDT Subject: Re: METROPOLIS To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HAHA, I got this flyer too. And I was thinking to myself. "How much did they spend on this flyer?" The flyer is huge. And the line up is incredable. And people wonder why parties cost what they do. Sometimes people just dont understand where the money they spend on parties go. People think it all goes into the promoters pocket. Wrong! Yes some does. But not as much as one would think. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 19:16:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 539 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 19:16:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 470 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 19:16:11 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 19:16:11 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vTGOa20332 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:14:31 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:14:31 EDT Subject: Re: METROPOLIS To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk where is this party gonna be?? It's on my birthday and I'm seriously considering giving up watching Mars and Mystre spin at Origin (a 2nd and Crackson party) to go to a more comfortable and danceable location... - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 19:31:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12887 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 19:31:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 12769 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 19:31:45 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 19:31:45 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vBOZa12394; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:30:42 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <1eb98369.2443a3e2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:30:42 EDT Subject: Re: METROPOLIS To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Saturday, May 29th. At the International Rave Center. Info line numbers. (408)747-7742 (510) 733-1140 (415) 721-4713 (916) 565-6560. Clockworkeventz.com. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 19:36:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17441 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 19:36:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 17421 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 19:36:13 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 19:36:13 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D72EDWCK; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:35:47 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:50:08 -0700 Subject: Re: METROPOLIS Message-ID: <19990412.125015.2694.0.Trigometric@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-7 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yay!! I'm going to be playing there. Stop by the chill pad and say howdy to the down-tempo artists. : o ) Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 19:43:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23536 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 19:43:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 23337 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 19:43:14 -0000 Received: from schilling.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 19:43:14 -0000 Received: from pc24.ucdavis.edu ([169.237.77.44]) by schilling.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with SMTP id MAA20430; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990412123819.00718a54@sol.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: ez053642@sol.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:38:19 -0700 To: sacraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Terri E. Young" Subject: bsp: Epiphany * April 17 Cc: Starburst@egroups.com, Starrburst@egroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THIS SATURDAY - 17 April 1999! Epiphany presents DayBreaks! All Day! All Breaks! Prime, outdoor, virgin, beautiful, permitted location in San Francisco! Lots of beautiful trees, grass and fresh air (And maybe some pretty buggies) ;) The lineup Uncle Noah (Abduction Productions/LA) [breakbeat] Jungle Life Crew on 6x7! (SF) [jungle scratch-a-thon] Science & AndyW (Viberation/Harmony) [electrodowntempo shite] ReAch (Static/A*R*M) [hip hop] Siphon & Hak (Urban Assault) [jungle] Jason (Epiphany) [jungle] Jahsh (Harmony) [downtempo] Amber (Epiphany) [ambient jungle] MC Duh (Mackadocious Lady's Man) This is a donation-only party. All proceeds will go to the Red Cross. There will be free water and fruit. Come party with us outdoors before the Harmony Springtime Flower Festival!! Call the voicemail for exact location & info: 415/289-2100 ext.118 Terri E. Young Department of Entomology University of California Davis, CA 95616 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 19:59:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4909 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 19:59:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 4892 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 19:59:55 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 19:59:55 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-a3 (mmf4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.74]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA30014; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904121959.MAA30014@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: JUNGurlE@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Titanic song CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:02:05 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why do people play shite like this at parties? It's soooo C-H-E-E-Z-Y There should be more songs like that one by Vengaboys that's about a bus and goes "New York to San Francisco, an inter-city disco.." ./~ More Z 95.7 stuff in general. Rafie On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:23:07 EDT, JUNGurlE@aol.com wrote... >would this be the same titanic song I hear M&M spinning at popsikle? > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 20:04:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8096 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 20:04:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 8087 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 20:04:46 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 20:04:46 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-a3 (mmf4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.74]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02878; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904122004.NAA02878@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: METROPOLIS CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:06:56 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Isn't it at HomeBass? Where else would it be around here. Hm, TERRY-mo'fo'-MULLAN and other bomb DJs in a large locale w/ fresh air, or the same old shit at Ghetto&Crackson..? Hmmm...tough choice! Rafie On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:14:31 EDT, KaNdeEKlD@aol.com wrote... >where is this party gonna be?? It's on my birthday and I'm seriously >considering giving up watching Mars and Mystre spin at Origin (a 2nd and >Crackson party) to go to a more comfortable and danceable location... - >Jenn > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 20:15:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14469 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 20:15:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 14446 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 20:15:34 -0000 Received: from f81.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.187) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 20:15:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 36631 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 1999 20:15:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412201538.36630.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.171.134.229 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:15:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.171.134.229] From: "Beetle Juice" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Its a bird! Its a Plane! Its a ??? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:15:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There I am, chillen next to the speaker "playing" with my women. Just being happy and minding my own business. When out of no were a glow stick comes flying towards my head from the top of the speaker. No time to move and dodge the projectile. I accepted my fate and braced for impact. Just then I realized, the glow stick was not alone. My GOD!! its attached to an arm and that arm is attached to a sweat soaked raver! The incoming glow stick dancer was travelling at high velocity and completely oblivious to the carnage about to occur. The individual hit at ramming speed. Luckily my girlfriend took most of the blow. Sparring my frail body from any possible injuries. The down side to this is that she was unconscious for a couple seconds and when she did regain some semblance of reality, needless to say, there was several minutes of crying. No quicker than the person hit the floor, he yelled "Sorry, sorry, securities chasing me!" and ran away. My little lady and I ended up getting over the traumatic experience and having a great time regardless. Of course she now has the Addidas logo permanently engraved on her temple (were your shoe hit her). To this commando trained glow stick missile I just wonted to say, apology accepted. But please next time look before you leap. "Vou Ja Dai" The incredible feeling that somthing like this has never happend before. Beetle Juice Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 20:23:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21617 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 20:23:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 21609 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 20:23:04 -0000 Received: from mail.fiberia.com (208.137.248.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 20:23:04 -0000 Received: from gtsl1013.us1.ibm.net (mail.fiberia.com [208.137.248.15]) by mail.fiberia.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA17638 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904122124.OAA17638@mail.fiberia.com> To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org From: joshg@fiberia.com Subject: harmony spring Date: Mon, 12 Apr 99 14:24:21 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi friend I am in need of a ride from Santa Rosa to harmony this coming weekend If anyone can help please let me know at boardbrain@hotmail.com I will help pay for gas Thank you Josh *********************************************************** * Get your FREE e-mail and FREE web site at FIBERIA * * http://www.fiberia.com * *********************************************************** From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 20:42:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4019 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 20:42:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 4008 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 20:42:05 -0000 Received: from f132.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 20:42:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 71897 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 1999 20:41:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412204105.71896.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:41:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Big Ups to Urban Development Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:41:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just wanted to send shouts out to the UD krew. They are putting together a phat party on May 1. I am in no way part of this crew nor do I even know any of them outside of Andre Lucero and Him I don't even know outside of posts to this list. But they keep puting together str8 up raw parties with top notch talent for a good price for there next party they have Robert Armani.. Can you say midwest tekno king and str8 up ghetto house master. I can't wait I personally have not seen him play live but have heard he rocks from some friends that live in the midwest. See some of you there. If you don't know about them you better ask someboda.. See ya, Macadio Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:09:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20835 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:09:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20796 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:09:26 -0000 Received: from web215.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:09:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412211138.8094.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.118.21] by web215.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:11:38 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:11:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Spacegirl Interview To: Justin Hale , Juju0322@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank you just the same for the selekta address.love,Julie --- Justin Hale wrote: > sorry, i posted the wrong address... > the spacegirl interview is on the ravelinks page > www.ravelinks.com > i think under the new stuff tab... > sorry. www.selekta.com has the new > interview with Terry Mullan. > > justin > > > >From: Juju0322@aol.com > >Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com > >To: simplycosmic@hotmail.com > >Subject: Re: cutie Dj's > >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:44:00 EDT > > > >where is the interview, i cant find it > >-Stephanie Marie- > > > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:19:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26004 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:19:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25996 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:19:55 -0000 Received: from web201.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:19:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412211838.23667.rocketmail@web201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.118.21] by web201.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:38 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: nrr:obvious To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know who is reading my posts. I can also see where your biases currently lie. Interesting. I like to people watch. I am not available for a romantic relationship. I am married, and my spouse and I are currently engaging in and enjoying a monogamous relationship. Thank you for your interest just the same. I am flattered.love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:21:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28131 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:21:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 28023 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:21:38 -0000 Received: from web203.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.103) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:21:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412211747.24328.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.118.21] by web203.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:17:47 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:17:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: METROPOLIS To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Happy birthday to you!!!!!love,Julie --- KaNdeEKlD@aol.com wrote: > where is this party gonna be?? It's on my birthday > and I'm seriously > considering giving up watching Mars and Mystre spin > at Origin (a 2nd and > Crackson party) to go to a more comfortable and > danceable location... - Jenn > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:30:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5278 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:30:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 5122 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:30:10 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:30:10 -0000 Received: from 209.157.116.141 (dynamic26.pm03.san-jose.best.com [209.24.164.154]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id OAA10271; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371263A5.FAA9B66F@resourcerecords.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:20:56 -0700 From: The Accomplice Reply-To: chris@resourcerecords.com Organization: Resource Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Macadio G." , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Big Ups to Urban Development X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <19990412204105.71896.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hell yes Macadio!! You better believe it!! Matt and Goura put together super fat parties!! The thing that sucks is, they don't get as big of a pull as they should!! We need to spread the word!! The time for TECHNO is here, people need to stop denying it. If some would just give it a chance, they would probably freak-the-fuck-ooouuut! Anyway! Hey, I'm playing at "Static" tommorrow from 11:20pm-12:40am, you should come and check it out. As a matter of fact, ALL of you who are 21+ should attend. It is going to be off the hook! Come and dance yer arses off! An open mind is a healthy mind... chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:32:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7099 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:32:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 7087 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:32:44 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:32:44 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14976 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2M04S96K>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:28:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Audio Impact Review Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:28:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, since on the flyers it said that the party started at 10pm, I assumed that they weren't shitting us!! So I start out to pick up Megatron at about 8:15, then go to Catrina's house to pick her up, then we finally found the Cocodrie club!! Finally!! Parking was a bitch, I am so paranoid about getting my car towed, so we just parked in a paid parking lot. $7 isn't bad, I think. Walked in the rain to the club. There were some people we recognized standing outside, Pistachio and Anonymous. I think they provided the sound system. Anyway, they're all standing outside in the doorway waiting for some PUNK band to finish. Keep in mind it's already 10pm when the party is supposed to start. Well, the punk band played until about 10:30 (which I thought was very rude and inconsiderate, considering they were supposed to be off at 9:30. Didn't they know that another show was supposed to start at 10pm? Rude.) 11pm. Got into the party, finally. Security was incredibly rude to everyone, shouting "Get the FUCK against the wall!" I mean, don't be so damn bitter. But I'm glad I don't have their jobs, I might be bitter too. The party was VERY fun. Great music!! I think that Rinse had the best set, but that's just my opinion. I got to meet some cool new people (CanContrl & Angel) and Jamalski was as usual, going off on the Mic!! Then MC DUH Showed up. What's up?!?! he's so dope!! I was enjoying the MC's tag-team, so to speak!! It was pretty dope. Phantom 45 played a dope set also, despite being drunk, or so I heard. LOL All in all, the party was fun. Why did it end at 3am though, I thought it was supposed to end at 4am?!? Just as well, though, I was tired and wanted to go home to get some sleep. (What a party pooper.) Good party, BASS KRU, big ups!! Naomi PS Megatron, what's up with a copy of that video you took?!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:33:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7705 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:33:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7581 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:33:06 -0000 Received: from web705.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:33:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412213226.15670.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.11] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:32:26 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:32:26 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: word from the Burning Man front. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sun, Kevin, and i checked out the town hall meeting this saturday. the big news is that The Man will burn on saturday night this year, so as to ease traffic congestion on monday morning. i don't know how i feel about that. i think Danger Ranger Geoff White's pressence at Burning Man '98 was instrumentall in a lot of the more outlaw techno camps not being shut down. but i didn't really feel any raver pressence at the town hall meeting and i don't really feel like sticking up for ravers ((read : bored, privliged, mostly white kids that just shit on the people around them and have little else to offer up)) as of late. '96 was a good example of the bay area at it's finest. Wicked and Gateway both had amazing camps, and delivered a better deal as rivals than i think they would have as partners. competition brings that out in people. you're able to create a better work of art, in a small part because of spite, than you would have under the influence of peace & love. Burning Man isn't a rave event anymore, not really. it's more like a feudal anarchy with techno over-lords blasting thier soundsytems straight at strangers camps and just looking for a fight. i don't find myself defending thier actions as much as i used to anymore. time to leave the party. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:34:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9308 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:34:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 9292 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:34:43 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:34:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412213251.6402.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [24.4.254.66] by web4; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:32:51 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:32:51 -0700 (PDT) From: General E Subject: Re: Spacegirl Interview To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The spacegirl interview (for those wondering where to find it) can be found at: http://www.ravelinks.com/spacegirl.htm -General E www.ravelinks.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:41:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13145 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 13135 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:41:38 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:41:38 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-27.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.27]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA16976 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990412201422.006c2028@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:14:22 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: Titanic song Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dammit i like cheese once in awhile...Like i have this house song thats all hard n thumpin Boom Boom Boom then this song comes on from that movie with Bruce Leroy..in it...ya know..."who's that masta! shonuff!" (Da Powa, Northface Killa) I adore this song just for that... You are the last masta..and you must have the power of them all! So anyways my cheese is (in my ever so humble opinion) is a way of treasuring the "omg why in gay hell did i do/listen/wear that back then, I am such a dork" It's like a dj playing some wicked shite and then all of a sudden rewinding the song only to cut out to some 1984 New Edition singing "Candygrl" or "If It Isn't Love" Guns n Roses..."Paradise City" and just making everyone go, "dayum I remember that!" And for some reason it's usually songs that take a person back to in time. So listen to the Titanic song and capture every fookin moment you see while it plays cuz then it will be gone and when it plays again you'll love it. There comes a place n time when I can teach you no more Nuku *note omg= Oh my gawd At 01:02 PM 4/12/99, you wrote: >Why do people play shite like this at parties? It's soooo C-H-E-E-Z-Y > >There should be more songs like that one by Vengaboys that's about a bus >and goes "New York to San Francisco, an inter-city disco.." ./~ >More Z 95.7 stuff in general. > >Rafie > > >On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:23:07 EDT, >JUNGurlE@aol.com wrote... >>would this be the same titanic song I hear M&M spinning at popsikle? >> >> > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:47:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16609 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:47:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 16594 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:47:11 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:47:11 -0000 Received: from 209.157.116.141 (dynamic26.pm03.san-jose.best.com [209.24.164.154]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id OAA01173; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37126818.1115D6B7@resourcerecords.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:39:55 -0700 From: The Accomplice Reply-To: chris@resourcerecords.com Organization: Resource Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jessica Webster , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Big Ups to Urban Development X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <19990412204105.71896.qmail@hotmail.com> <199904122036.NAA02953@mail.dsp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yep...It's @ Cat's 1190 Folsom St. SF chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:51:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18916 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:51:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18908 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:51:09 -0000 Received: from web132.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:51:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412215307.27597.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web132.yahoomail.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:53:07 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:53:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: UFO At 916JUNGLIST To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I lost the flyer last night, But UFO will be in Sac some Friday in May. (Possibly either the 14th or 28th) Here is a link to the 916JUNGLIST flyer page. It has this Friday, which looks like a tight line up, too. http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/4636/916JUNGLIST/flyer.html *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 21:56:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22352 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 21:56:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22344 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 21:55:59 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 21:55:59 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3RSJa25415 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:54:39 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <92d8cc45.2443c59f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:54:39 EDT Subject: Re: chris jackson's tape: pretty damn dope To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/11/99 8:13:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dadope@juno.com writes: << Yeah I don't have your email address so I'll let everyone read this. Your tape sucked so bad I had to trow it out tha window. Psyche!!!! It's hella dope. I'm sure it'll be in my boombox all week. Thank you much dude. >> I'm gonna second that! Nice tech skills. thank you so much!! hugsn'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:00:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25214 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:00:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 25115 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:00:16 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:00:16 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id PAA03972; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:00:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904122200.PAA03972@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: word from the Burning Man front. To: youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com (mike bolger) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990412213226.15670.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> from "mike bolger" at Apr 12, 99 02:32:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > > Sun, Kevin, and i checked out the town hall meeting this saturday. the > big news is that The Man will burn on saturday night this year, so as > to ease traffic congestion on monday morning. i don't know how i feel > about that. I think it is good. By Sunday, I was feeling the event was winding down away.. and the burn was more of a conclusion than a climax to the event. > Burning Man isn't a rave event anymore, not really. it's more like a I don't think it ever was.... > feudal anarchy with techno over-lords blasting thier soundsytems > straight at strangers camps and just looking for a fight. i don't find > myself defending thier actions as much as i used to anymore. time to > leave the party. Several soundsystems were attempting to be respectful last year... keeping their systems contained by domes or hey walls. Unfortuantly, it just takes a few disrespectful soundsystems to spoil it. But, if you were camped at the north tip of the city... you *knew* you were in the loud zone... You can dance to loud music anytime... I am going to be more into comfy ambient chill spaces this year ala the Nub Chai Tent/Biancas... -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:06:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28725 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:06:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 28717 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:06:11 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:06:11 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3GQRa02489; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:01:28 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <3697683a.2443c738@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:01:28 EDT Subject: Re: Refunds for tickle~> The T-room To: Ezzm@aol.com CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok.. in light of the recent problems at Second and Jackson with capacity and whatnot.. I think one promoter should learn from the next (or in this case the previous). Everyone and their mom knows about T-room parties (hey, it's shaped like a t.. yanno what I'm saying?) lately, and it's safe to assume that any party there will sell out. Instead of having presales and tickets at the door.. it should be presale only (*ahem* F-8) or have a count of how many presales were sold and how many people capacity is for the T-room, and DON"T SELL ANYMORE TICKETS AT THE DOor than would put the # of partiers over capacity, causing presale holding laggers to miss out. Who wants to buy a presale if you aren't guaranteed a spot in a party? It shoudn't be that hard of a thing to do... especially when you are super promoting a party. Unless you like having people pissed off at you..... hugs n'stuff trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:09:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2313 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:09:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 2303 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:09:25 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:09:25 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id lRRYa02488; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:08:10 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:08:10 EDT Subject: Chris Jackson's Tape To: chris@resourcerecords.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, since today seems to be the day to tell Chris how much we love his tape, I'll throw in my opinion also. As soon as I popped it in and heard the first 2 minutes, I loved it. It flows very nicely and keeps your feet tapping! Even a few of my friends who don't like techno, liked the tape. Mad props to you, Chris! And thank you so much for the tape! I will definetly have to come see you spin and and say hi sometime soon! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:15:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10015 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 10006 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:15:16 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:15:16 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3QOQa17640 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:13:33 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <5354094c.2443ca0d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:13:33 EDT Subject: Re: METROPOLIS To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/12/99 12:32:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BigM009@aol.com writes: << Saturday, May 29th. At the International Rave Center. Info line numbers. (408)747-7742 (510) 733-1140 (415) 721-4713 (916) 565-6560. Clockworkeventz.com. >> I am really interested to see how they pull this off, seeing as how the city of oakland usually allows only one permit for a party in oaktown a night. Which one is gonna get busted?? hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:18:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11890 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:18:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 11854 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:18:08 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:18:08 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vRUEa12393; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:16:24 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:16:24 EDT Subject: Re: Tickle....Booo!!!! To: Macias20@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK i wasnt going to say anything from the first post from the fraternity boy but from this last one i have to say something.....I am in a fraternity and I LOVE IT!!! We dont compete on how much we can drink (even though we do drink a lot). I will agree that going to a rave is a much more loving and relaxing scene because there is no alcohol and everybody is respectful and kind. Everbody knows that alcohol makes people not nice and want to pick fights and they get rude, not all the time but that is the general idea. I know that we are not like that at all. My whole point is this, everyone has there own scene and even though i love raves for the music, people and the fun is just undescribable but i wouldnt give up a party night with my fraternity brothers ( or should I say FAMILY) for a rave.You guys complain about other movies and people giving raves a bad name, please dont let the one fraternity that you saw judge us all cause it is far from a good example. Much love, dont judge greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:21:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16221 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:21:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 16210 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:21:48 -0000 Received: from nytoday.whowhere.com (HELO mc-qout2.whowhere.com) (209.1.236.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:21:48 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Mon Apr 12 15:21:14 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:21:14 -0800 From: "Yana " Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Go! Go! Go! see "Go!" X-Sender-Ip: 207.33.26.239 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It is worth your 8 bucks! Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:25:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20757 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 20746 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:25:15 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:25:15 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3MAYa26459 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <72b231f8.2443cc0b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:22:03 EDT Subject: Re: word from the Burning Man front. To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have a question... WHat ever happened to Omar (?) that got hit by the car at Burning man and they were raising money to help with his hospital bills?? I met his brother at a party a while back, but I haven't heard any info since then. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:27:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23237 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:27:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23222 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:27:21 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:27:21 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iRHZa02488; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:10:01 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <312ba3e1.2443c939@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:10:01 EDT Subject: Re: Macadio's Ticklish review To: natasha426@hotmail.com CC: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk YET ANOTHER great party to remember!! i had so much fun there! it sucks that that location got busted, too (at Fairytale, right?) but Wonder was lots o Fun! i still have pictures of set up and soooo many kids that I haven't seen in a long time. I remember going to Toys R Us during setup and shopping with all these people I'd just met for stuff to give out at the party. I miss that. ThorfioMatt was there, Johnny, Tony, Andy Perez, Jessica, Nik, Skye, WOW! and hahah and I remember we had to takeSkye home because she'd had surgery, and my friend couldn't find the keys to his house so we slept in the car. (they were in his glove compartment!) why can't we find locations like this and have parties like this again?? Isn't anyone willing to take the risk or put forth the effort? I'll help!! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva PS> Mack of Audio! i have a pic of you spinning at Wonder, too.. I think I gave the double to Victoria n a message dated 4/12/99 10:45:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, natasha426@hotmail.com writes: << Mackdaddio wrote: <> I remember that party!! Man, that was SUCH a good time!! Decorations were beautiful, I met so many wonderful people that night who I am still friends with now...including Mr. Daddio himself (hai, maya, jeremy, trice, vlad, boomerang & jamie, andyw, herb...who else?) >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:30:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25418 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:30:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 25406 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:30:47 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:30:47 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D72QC9RB; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:30:12 EDT To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:29:14 -0700 Subject: Re: METROPOLIS Message-ID: <19990412.153333.-1085.2.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-12 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All I can say is fuck Origin. May 29th is my birthday weekend, so there better be a good party that weekend. Peace, Theresa On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:14:31 EDT KaNdeEKlD@aol.com writes: >where is this party gonna be?? It's on my birthday and I'm seriously >considering giving up watching Mars and Mystre spin at Origin (a 2nd >and >Crackson party) to go to a more comfortable and danceable location... >- Jenn > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:31:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26536 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:31:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26526 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:31:16 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:31:16 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D72QC9MV; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:30:12 EDT To: chrisle@uclink.berkeley.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:22:16 -0700 Subject: Re: tickle.... Message-ID: <19990412.153333.-1085.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,4-7,10-16 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll be at harmony, tha crazy chick w/ pink hair in a long black polyester halter dress w/ flowers (gotta go with tha theme). It's going to be at 2nd and jax. I like 85th and Baldwin too, despite its filth, but I heard it's kinda expensive to rent. Peace, Theresa On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:14:13 -0400 "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" writes: > >so now who's going to harmony? anyone know the location of that? and >i think more raves should be at that warehouse where the gathering >was. that place kicked asz. > >latz.. chris or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 22:44:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5082 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 22:44:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 4926 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 22:44:50 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 22:44:50 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vHVQa22985 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:43:07 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:43:07 EDT Subject: Re: Titanic song CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/12/99 9:00:05 PM, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: <> Have they played this song at a party before?? For some odd reason it get's=20 me pumped?!?! ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 23:01:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16039 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 23:01:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 16030 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 23:01:23 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 23:01:23 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rXZMa22985; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:32:15 EDT Subject: Re: METROPOLIS To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, KaNdeEKlD@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah its at homebase and it will be awesome cant wait... rgeg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 23:03:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17039 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 23:03:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 16997 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 23:02:59 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 23:02:59 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vVJEa25415 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:01:39 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:01:39 EDT Subject: Re: Refunds for tickle~> The T-room (just props and a hello) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Reply-To: MissNexa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/12/99 2:06:27 PM PST, TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: << (*ahem* F-8) >> deezang, sorry you guys... even with all that racist BS drama, I still can't help but come back... I dont meet too many people on this list, but goodNESS I'm addicted to the SFR. Ack, so hello once more! In my limited partygoing history, there have been two instances in which presale ONLY has occured. One of them was this past F8 party. I'm sure F8 realized, after the august heat wave and the december heat wave that occured in the crackson house that presales were a nice idea. And happy kids halloween... hell, people were complaining about driving all over the bay, just to ensure that counterfeit tix were kept to a bare minimum? Ahhh just got a car this weekend... now I can stop whining about all the parties that I actually WANT to go to, but cant get out there... Batteries died at the entrance to Tickle, but were once recharged again by the soothing sounds of Mars's --the electric temple-- .... ---> *huGS* Li'l Miss Nexa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 23:21:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29739 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 23:21:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 29691 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 23:21:01 -0000 Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 23:21:01 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB112-29.splitrock.net [209.156.147.236]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA72694; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: <37127F50.D6580A6A@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:18:40 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chris@resourcerecords.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Chris Jackson's Tape References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to thank Chris for the tape he sent me. Its a good tape very well mixed. And the programming was nicely done. The tape flows from beginning to end on both sides, with never any of what I like to call 'dead spots' (where you press fast forward because the song plays too long with no change or doesn't go anywhere.) The sound quality is good and I appreciated the quick response that I got back from him (I recieved the tape the next day). Very professional in my opinion. While my taste in techno is different (I like what I prefer to call the more swirling, busy peak time club techno i.e. Christian Smith, Envoy, Brian Zentz, John Selway, Frank Dubois, Dave Angel.), the high quality of the mixing and programming of this tape has earned and will continue to earn repeated listening in this DJ's ears. Much props to Chris and once again its great to see yet another fine talented DJ and Producer coming from the Bay. Peace to you, Joe Lanzon From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 23:27:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3673 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 23:27:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 3635 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 23:27:16 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 23:27:16 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 611824; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:26:51 -0700 Message-ID: <371280DE.5E534705@warmth.org> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:25:18 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, talk@warmth.org Subject: EarthDay 4-22-99?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So what if anything are you doing for Earthday 4-22-99? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 23:42:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13616 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 23:42:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 13608 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 23:42:10 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 23:42:10 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vIDQa27567; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:41:26 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:41:26 EDT Subject: The Vanga Boys!!!!!!! To: JanetBoy7@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yup yup!! i believe it has been played for a lil while now, but thomas=20 played it last saturday, and from what i've heard at some of the man in the=20 moon parties.. personally i LOVE this song, my bestfriend and i both went and got the cd,=20 with 8 mixes of it, back in the begining of december, and we still listen to=20 it!! i love #8--the xxl mix!!!! love and hugs anddd kisses, tina In a message dated 4/12/99 3:45:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 JanetBoy7@aol.com writes: << Have they played this song at a party before?? For some odd reason it=20 get's=20 me pumped?!?! =20 ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 =20 >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 23:54:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22378 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 23:54:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 22353 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 23:54:05 -0000 Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 23:54:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412235404.1668.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.20.250] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:54:04 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:54:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Re: word from the Burning Man front. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: TeKnODiVa@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Omar is doing well, I saw him the other day. If anyone needs to get ahold of him, let me know. Steve =) --- TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > I have a question... > WHat ever happened to Omar (?) that got hit by > the car at Burning man and > they were raising money to help with his hospital > bills?? I met his brother > at a party a while back, but I haven't heard any > info since then. > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the tekno diva > === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 23:54:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23098 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 23:54:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 23081 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 23:54:30 -0000 Received: from web205.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.105) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 23:54:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412235323.27745.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.20.250] by web205.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:53:23 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:53:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Omar was Re: word from the Burning Man front. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: TeKnODiVa@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Omar is doing well, I saw him the other day. If anyone needs to get ahold of him, let me know. Steve =) --- TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > I have a question... > WHat ever happened to Omar (?) that got hit by > the car at Burning man and > they were raising money to help with his hospital > bills?? I met his brother > at a party a while back, but I haven't heard any > info since then. > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the tekno diva > === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 12 23:59:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28859 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 23:59:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 28839 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 23:59:49 -0000 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (206.13.28.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 23:59:49 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-209-79-196-167.scrm01.pacbell.net [209.79.196.167]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id QAA11177; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3711E085.B5A2D76C@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:01:10 -0700 From: dr_XeNo Organization: KDVS DJ/USDAFS Genetics Lab Asst. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-PBI-NC404 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Davis Family , SacRaves , SFRaves , BlueGlue , Greg Sandler , James Subject: BSP: *TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA* f. J-Bot & Andy W & Li Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 'Lo there, PLURry peeps! Here's tha info fer tonite's show.... Ifinally have been able to bring J-Bot back for a repeat performance, which had been cut short, originally, due to the usual technical difficulties. He comes bringing the two other members of the Harmony old skool elite: Andy W and Li. This should be an intersting performance of many styles of trance, so please hang out a bit, 'n' listen! Also as important, this is the Annual KDVS Week-Long Fundraiser Show, which means they will really like me, and I will really like you if u donate some $$$ ta tha station. If yer a student, a $20 donation will get u 1-2 cd's of your choice from a list, or a KDVS t-shirt! For all u old pharts, ;-) a $35 dollar donation will do the same! Our goal is 30K this year to double our wattage and rejuvenate our HIGHLY aging broadcast studio....which means a higher quality TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA for all u folx! Last year we cleared a little over 16K so we're ambitious this year! _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ !Harmony Productions/KDVS Fundraiser Show! Featuring: J-Bot/Harmonics/Harmony & Andy W/Harmony & Li/Harmony TiX Giveaways: The Springtime Flower Festival/Harmony (415)289-6788 TiX Giveaways: Digital Dreams/Fuz-E/Harmony (916) 484-5700 Other Giveaways: J-Bot Mixtape? Check us out on 90.3FM KDVS, Davis from 10-midnite PST..... Or if yer outta range, on RealAudio, off tha show's page: http://tek.cjb.net Request Line: 530-752-2777 As usual, I'll be online during tha whole show in tha #sfraves room on IRC, checking me email, and on AOhelL's IM as drXeNo6, not including dr_XeNo6 on Yahoo! Pager. ;-) Or, try me on ICQ #18463830. Be sure ta call in n say wazzup! U kidz take care........ :-) -- <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis dr_XeNo@pacbell.net IM= drXeNo6 ICQ= #18463830 http://drxeno.cjb.net/ 90.3FM KDVS, Davis -----\/ Every Other Mon Nite, 10-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ Listen On RealAudio and See Tha Calendar @ ------\/ http://tek.cjb.net/ <<<<<>>>>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 00:11:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8319 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 00:11:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 8197 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 00:11:22 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 00:11:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 7488 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 00:11:19 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 00:11:19 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station209.thegrid.net [209.162.3.209]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12285; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37128C21.453A391D@thegrid.net> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:13:22 -0700 From: Mark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ezzm@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Refunds for tickle References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thats pretty much messed up imo. I got in, I didn't have presale, I simply got there at 9:30 and waited in line. I think it's excellent that they locked the place down and limited the capacity as well as they did, however, since there have been tons of parties at 2nd and Jackson it should be petty clear how many people to let in total. It should be as simple as: Total allowed inside - Number of presales = Amount of non Presale they let in. If you plan to allow in 2000 and u sell 2000 presale then simply say in advance no one will be allowed in without presale tickets. If you plan to let in 2000 and you sell 1500 presale, then no matter what don't let in more than 500 non presale. I can't think of any excuse for not letting in someone with presale tickets unless you just never thought to consider counting how many presales tickets you ordered when you had them printed. A mistake one would think T&J wouldn't make with there amount of experience. Seems fairly logical to me.. symmetry Ezzm@aol.com wrote: > well i hope everyone had a good time at tickle3. > Long story short: > i got there at midnight > i had a presale > i had a crewpass > i did not get in > i waited > i walked around > it started to rain > i leftwent to a friend's > i slept till noon > > ANYHOW, my question is : What is the word this "over capacity" business? Did > they sell too many tickets? did poeple sneak in ? Was conterfeiting a problem? > and how do i get my refund? > > Thank you > Da soopa (shit, i'm outside and can't get in )smak > MO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 00:12:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9718 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 00:12:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 9525 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 00:12:25 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 00:12:25 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vBHJa21395 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:05:16 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:05:16 EDT Subject: Re: Refunds for tickle~> The T-room To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree 100%!!!! Harmony crew listen to this girl, she knows what she's talking about!!!=) - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 00:30:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23432 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 00:30:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 23421 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 00:30:48 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 00:30:48 -0000 Received: from UnUm2@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vDQLa17882 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:29:05 -0400 (EDT) From: UnUm2@aol.com Message-ID: <595a23ce.2443e9d1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:29:05 EDT Subject: ROOM FOR RENT IN SAN JOSE (available now) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: UnUm2@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If youre looking for a place to live Please email me for more information From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 00:42:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2515 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 00:42:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 2352 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 00:41:58 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 00:41:58 -0000 Received: from BabyChinoZ@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vDSUa16609 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:39:30 -0400 (EDT) From: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Message-ID: <262044e0.2443ec42@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:39:30 EDT Subject: Re: Titanic song To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HAHAHAHA.... Ok so i was watchin Cartoons as Usuall... when who dose there own Titanic Remix but Pinky & the Brain.... (actually i saw the parody a bit back but the post reminded me)... from what i remember it's Pinky singing and it goes something like this... Two small lab mice with one big dream to take over the world watch Pinky and the Brain Week days on Kids WB "I'll never let go Brain... Never let Go" I'd rather sit in the theaters and see that! HAHAHAHHAHA -tyson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 00:43:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4519 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 00:43:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 4352 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 00:43:37 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 00:43:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413004352.18665.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.33.71] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:43:52 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:43:52 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Full Moon Party To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Doh... A few days ago, I posted that the Full Moon Party was going to be on Friday, 4/16. I was wrong, as is the SFR calendar. The Full Moon Party is going to be on 4/30, when the moon is actually FULL, as I realized when I looked at the newspaper's weather forecast section today. sorry for any confusion... michael o)-< the stupid stickman From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 00:54:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11641 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 00:54:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 11351 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 00:54:11 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 00:54:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 16095 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 00:54:09 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 00:54:09 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station209.thegrid.net [209.162.3.209]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20184; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3712962C.15AFC454@thegrid.net> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:56:12 -0700 From: Mark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafie , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Titanic song References: <199904121959.MAA30014@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *puke* funny.. I would have said playing stuff off of z 95.7 is about as cheesy as it gets. symmetry Rafie wrote: > Why do people play shite like this at parties? It's soooo C-H-E-E-Z-Y > > There should be more songs like that one by Vengaboys that's about a bus > and goes "New York to San Francisco, an inter-city disco.." ./~ > More Z 95.7 stuff in general. > > Rafie > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:23:07 EDT, > JUNGurlE@aol.com wrote... > >would this be the same titanic song I hear M&M spinning at popsikle? > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 01:08:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20499 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 01:08:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 20484 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 01:08:21 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 01:08:21 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.53) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:11:58 -0800 Message-ID: <37129900.32C4A8C6@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:08:16 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: Titanic song References: <19990412071636.35504.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the only time i've ever heard either one of them spin that song was at f-8. mars did. maybe i'm on crack, and i know i don't catch every time they play, but i do see them quite a bit, and it's not a song that i hear all the time. paul LuSh SnOOpiE wrote: > this is the song that mars and mystre ALWAYS play. it's getting kinda > old, but i like it still (mainly when i'm on E, and then i like > everything! :P). > > love > LuSh SnOOpiE ;P > > >From: JUNGurlE@aol.com > >Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: Titanic song > >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:23:07 EDT > > > >would this be the same titanic song I hear M&M spinning at popsikle? > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 01:18:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28843 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 01:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28753 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 01:18:25 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 01:18:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413011840.25874.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.215] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:18:40 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:18:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Titanic song To: BabyChinoZ@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's funny.love,Julie --- BabyChinoZ@aol.com wrote: > HAHAHAHA.... Ok so i was watchin Cartoons as > Usuall... when who dose there > own Titanic Remix but Pinky & the Brain.... > (actually i saw the parody a bit > back but the post reminded me)... from what i > remember it's Pinky singing and > it goes something like this... > Two small lab mice > with one big dream > to take over the world > watch Pinky and the Brain > Week days on Kids WB > "I'll never let go Brain... Never let Go" > I'd rather sit in the theaters and see that! > HAHAHAHHAHA > -tyson > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 01:19:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 995 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 01:19:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 982 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 01:19:41 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 01:19:41 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (1Cust119.tnt1.sfo2.da.uu.net [208.251.189.119]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA09071 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990412182121.006af95c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:21:21 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: swati shah Subject: was i tickled? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all of you who got to go to Tickle 3, my favorite dj Thomas Trouble's party with one of my other favorite djs spinning, Demigod, I hope you enjoyed the party to its fullest. I am green with envy, wishing I had gotten there earlier and was not refused entrance. Even with a presale, even after talking to Thomas, I couldn't get in. It was one of the saddest moments of my life. I have a question for all of you who did go in...it seems from some of the other reviews that people said the party was not all that packed. that it was not overcrowded. will someone accurately verify this for me, because if the party was not packed, and I couldn't get in, someone's ass is getting busted. They closed the doors at about 11:30, I arrived at about 11:45. Another comment...why is the Titanic song so heartily dissed on this list? Yes, I think it is cheesy, but that doesn't make it, or the movie, any less beautiful. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I respect that opinion, but I feel like some people are just dissing it for something to dis. And, one last question, did Thomas spin Braveheart at tickle3? did someone confuse the titanic song with braveheart, because i did once, and i honestly cannot imagine thomas spinning titanic. it doesn't fit in my mind. Thank you for listening to my incohesive ramblings, next time i promise i will think before i start writing. Hopefully I will get into the next party. Love, Swati From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 01:33:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10308 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 01:33:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 10294 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 01:33:53 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 01:33:53 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (1Cust119.tnt1.sfo2.da.uu.net [208.251.189.119]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA31568 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990412183522.006af95c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:35:22 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: swati shah Subject: Last chance!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_923992522==_" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_923992522==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Alright, this is it. This is your last chance to help me with Project Bliss. Just to remind you, this is my project to encourage kids to go to a party sober. I feel that every raver should be able to go to a party sober. And in my definition, marijuana doesn't count. I'm not saying that everyone should be sober all the time, but give yourself the choice to take something or not. No one should miss a party because they don't want to be sober. Its almost a skill, to focus on the music and the vibe rather than on just getting as fucked up as possible. but the music is there, and the people are there, to get you as high or higher than anything, if only you allow it. So, this is how you can help me. 1) If you've never been to a party sober, try it once. Lose yourself to the music. And then, email me the next day with your experience. 2) If you have been going to parties sober, write me an email about your first sober party, or any experiences you have that you want to share. Write to me about your thoughts on the connections between raves and drugs, and how you see the relationship evolving through your experiences. 3) Everyone, fill out my survey that is attached at the end of this email and send it back to me. Its just about how often you rave, and how often you use certain drugs. Feel free to share any stories you have with me, I love them all. Of course, everything will be kept confidential. I understand the fragility of some of the issues discussed, and only I will know who responded how. Security is not a problem. Thanks to all who have already responded to me, and to all of you who will, I hope. 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(station209.thegrid.net [209.162.3.209]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA22698; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37129F92.E4A2F2D6@thegrid.net> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:36:18 -0700 From: Mark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: swati shah , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: was i tickled? References: <3.0.3.32.19990412182121.006af95c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No, imo the party was not packed, I'll verify this for you. Thats the whole point. It's a good thing it was not packed, they were RIGHT not to let you in if you showed up at 11:30 without presale. The people who had presale and didn't get in had a right to be pissed, but otherwise, thats life, better to not pack the place so the people who did get in can have fun, then stuff it so full that no one does. oi, symmetry swati shah wrote: > To all of you who got to go to Tickle 3, my favorite dj Thomas Trouble's > party with one of my other favorite djs spinning, Demigod, I hope you > enjoyed the party to its fullest. I am green with envy, wishing I had > gotten there earlier and was not refused entrance. Even with a presale, > even after talking to Thomas, I couldn't get in. It was one of the saddest > moments of my life. > > I have a question for all of you who did go in...it seems from some of the > other reviews that people said the party was not all that packed. that it > was not overcrowded. will someone accurately verify this for me, because if > the party was not packed, and I couldn't get in, someone's ass is getting > busted. They closed the doors at about 11:30, I arrived at about 11:45. > > Another comment...why is the Titanic song so heartily dissed on this list? > Yes, I think it is cheesy, but that doesn't make it, or the movie, any less > beautiful. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I respect that > opinion, but I feel like some people are just dissing it for something to > dis. And, one last question, did Thomas spin Braveheart at tickle3? did > someone confuse the titanic song with braveheart, because i did once, and i > honestly cannot imagine thomas spinning titanic. it doesn't fit in my mind. > > Thank you for listening to my incohesive ramblings, next time i promise i > will think before i start writing. Hopefully I will get into the next party. > > Love, > Swati From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 01:45:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15957 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 01:45:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 15947 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 01:45:37 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 01:45:37 -0000 Received: from PlurDealer@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vHZIa17882 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:37:28 -0400 (EDT) From: PlurDealer@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:37:28 EDT Subject: Re:NRR: Great female comebacks To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: PlurDealer@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Great Female Comebacks: Man: "Haven't we met before?" Woman: "Yes, I'm the receptionist at the VD Clinic." Man: "Haven't I seen you someplace before? Woman: "Yeah, that's why I don't go there anymore." Man: "Is this seat empty?" Woman: "Yes, and this one will be too if you sit down." Man: "So, wanna go back to my place ?" Woman: "Well, I don't know. Will two people fit under a rock?" Man: "Your place or mine?" Woman: "Both. You go to yours and I'll go to mine." Man: "I'd like to call you. What's your number?" Woman: "It's in the phone book." Man: "But I don't know your name." Woman: "That's in the phone book too." Man: "So what do you do for a living?" Woman: "I'm a female impersonator." Man: "Hey, come on, we're both here at this bar for the same reason" Woman: "Yeah! Let's pick up some chicks!" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 01:46:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16698 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 01:46:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 16685 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 01:46:19 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 01:46:19 -0000 Received: from Sarzey@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vZTAa26461 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:40:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Sarzey@aol.com Message-ID: <5154fa5a.2443fa90@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:40:32 EDT Subject: Re: was i tickled? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: Sarzey@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alright.... I went to tickle3 and I had a really great time, but i do think that it was pretty packed. It was almost impossible to dance with out getting bumped or shoved by people! Granted in the chill area in the back of the side room it was pretty easy to move around, but there WERE alot of people there. Anyway, sorry you didn't get into the party Swati.. it's a shame. Peace- Sarzey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 01:53:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20881 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 01:53:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20871 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 01:53:13 -0000 Received: from dragon.ulink.net (209.160.21.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 01:53:13 -0000 Received: from ulink.net (max1-67.ulink.net [209.160.21.67]) by dragon.ulink.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id 2KBRQ6CX; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:53:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3712A2B7.24E6928F@ulink.net> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:49:43 -0700 From: Dragn'fly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PlurDealer@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Great female comebacks References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ahhhhhh....one of my own favorite anti-male-tryin'-to-pick-me-although-I'm-oviously-a-dyke lines!!!! ; ) dina PlurDealer@aol.com wrote: > Man: "Hey, come on, we're both here at this bar for the same > reason" > Woman: "Yeah! Let's pick up some chicks!" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 01:57:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22935 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 01:57:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 22913 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 01:57:33 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 01:57:33 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3BWVa25416 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:53:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:53:38 EDT Subject: My little opinion on TICKLE and newbies. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Now let me get this schtuff straight first. I'm no newbie to the scene, being on and off this list for like 4-5 years and raving for the past 5 years, I'm sure I somewhat have more authority than some of you people who've just been here for like a year or whatever and are now talking trash about people new to the scene. WHY? If there was no one new. . . raves would die. The new generation brings with it new experiences, new breeds of people, new music, and diffirent styles of everything. Now I don't consider myself a candee raver, but I do wear jewelry that friends and strangers have made of given to me. I'm the jolly runnin around meeting EVERYONE and giving EVERYONE hugz type of guy. Why is this bad to some people. Really, I know that if I'm at a party with most everyone wearing candee n all (gangsters included) that that party will be a fun one. Not really cuz that means that the music will be better, not cuz the location is phat, but because everyone there is just super beautiful happy jolly raver peeps like me, and that's just the greatest place in the world to be. . . where EVERYONE loves EVERYONE. . . we don't know why. . . "We Just Do!" Anyway. . . my experience at tickle was pretty groovy. My buddy michelle from rohnert park got me a ticket from harmonics (hey Gianni) so I didn't have to trip about that too much. Sat night I drive there to get it around 7 and drove back and finally arrived about 9:30. I really don't feel safe parking anywhere in oakland so I squeezed between some big ol trucks right across the street so the coppers would watch my car for me (or tow it away). Just knowing that that party was at 2nd and jax made me want to like just go in my undies with an oxygen mask and rubber gloves. It's ALWAYS super sweaty greasy funky smelly, and it's one of the only places I know of where it sprinkles indoors. But DON'T SIT DOWN!!! You'll get some straight weird ass funky multi-colored schtuff all over everything. . . I sat with my legs crossed over something that looked like melted ice cream or whatever but I was lucky to only get that splooge on my sock. I don't pay much attention to dj's usually. And I still don't. But the majority of the music had me dancing till I just couldn't possible breathe and had to lay below the clouds to get some O2, There were a bunch of groovy people there. A few were a little too messed up. Like this one asian girl who wanted to like jump on me and dance all freaky. . . I was like. . . uh. . . you can get on my shoulders if you want, so she did and we walked around while she loudly expressed her love for like everybody there. After I slid her off me, she was like all glued to me or something, trying to grab my tongue cuz it's pierces and she never kissed someone with a pierced tongue before (I thought everyone and their mother had their tongues pierced???). It was strange. Kinda funny. After all that I saw her on lotsa other dude's shoulders for like the rest of the night. I just totally love parties right about 3 oclock. The people start slowly disappearing, the music changes a bit. . . but then the people are all comin off whatever they were on and some get kinda upset. I didn't see any fights, but I think I was with Tina when we saw that girl being carried out. She was probably just fine like 8 hrs later. She was just kinda small, and probably did a little too much of whatever. I still don't understand why most people have to crowd into this little ol space, like "The Dance Floor" just to dance, when you can dance anywhere, even ON the speakers. . . I did that for a while, in the back room. . . until someone said something that sounded like. . . you can't dance up there. He probably said, hey you up there with the nice ass, or my grass is up there. But when the people next to me got down i was like. . . not really paying attention so I just got off too. It's cool though, I almost fell off like 6 times. There was some little bad ass topless candee raver dude just groovin his ass off next to me on the bricks. . . anyone know him ? He seemed like a fun person. All in all the party was fun. I pretty much always have fun, but sometimes I have a TON of fun and sometimes I just have a BUNCH. But I love it all anyway. I really feel kinda weird going home alone though, I usually don't, and I'm used to years with a girlie who lived with me n all, so it just feels really awkward. It's a weird life. It seems like most ALL of my budz are raver budz. But they pretty much all live like an hour away. That sucks, but that's cool too. Shit. . . I just bought a new car like 3 wks ago, it had 13 miles when I bout it, now it has 2839. THATS THE END ??? HugZzzzzzZzzzzZzzzzZzzzzZzzzzZ "A hug is worth a super cajillizillion words. . . " LuvYA Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 02:00:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25632 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 02:00:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25387 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 02:00:45 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 02:00:45 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA01460; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for charity.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 02:07:39 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:00:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'Mark'" , Ezzm@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: "'Jonas'" Subject: RE: Refunds for tickle Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:00:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mark, thanks for providing that lesson in math to the T&J Factory. i got there at 11:45pm with a presale and was denied entrance. to promoters out there: there's a finite amount of tickets you can sell, and you've got to choose the right combination of presales and at-the-door and stick to it. what happened saturday was ridiculous and easily avoidable - more than avoidable, it should never happen as long as the people in charge of the party can count. enough of this. on a more positive note, i went to the first of a sunday weekly at minna st last night and i was very impressed. for a first party the promoter did a great job, booking greg sandler and trancer among others. next week is happy kid marty & Ian - at minna st!!! i'm positive in a few weeks that sunday weekly will be as popular as eklektic is right now. it's a great way to finish the weekend, believe me. see you later. loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark [SMTP:BreakBeat@thegrid.net] > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 5:13 PM > To: Ezzm@aol.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: Refunds for tickle > > Thats pretty much messed up imo. I got in, I didn't have presale, I > simply got > there at 9:30 and waited in line. I think it's excellent that they locked > the > place down and limited the capacity as well as they did, however, since > there have > been tons of parties at 2nd and Jackson it should be petty clear how many > people > to let in total. It should be as simple as: Total allowed inside - > Number of > presales = Amount of non Presale they let in. If you plan to allow in > 2000 and u > sell 2000 presale then simply say in advance no one will be allowed in > without > presale tickets. If you plan to let in 2000 and you sell 1500 presale, > then no > matter what don't let in more than 500 non presale. I can't think of any > excuse > for not letting in someone with presale tickets unless you just never > thought to > consider counting how many presales tickets you ordered when you had them > printed. A mistake one would think T&J wouldn't make with there amount of > experience. Seems fairly logical to me.. > > symmetry > > Ezzm@aol.com wrote: > > > well i hope everyone had a good time at tickle3. > > Long story short: > > i got there at midnight > > i had a presale > > i had a crewpass > > i did not get in > > i waited > > i walked around > > it started to rain > > i leftwent to a friend's > > i slept till noon > > > > ANYHOW, my question is : What is the word this "over capacity" business? > Did > > they sell too many tickets? did poeple sneak in ? Was conterfeiting a > problem? > > and how do i get my refund? > > > > Thank you > > Da soopa (shit, i'm outside and can't get in )smak > > MO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 02:07:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28803 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 02:07:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 28793 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 02:07:33 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 02:07:33 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vZKOa18505; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:02:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:02:56 EDT Subject: Re: Refunds for tickle~> The T-room To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, Ezzm@aol.com CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Exactly miss diva.... The promoters will learn!!!! At least I hope so! I fiind it to be in bad taste to reject those who spent gas money, ticket money, others valuable time and getting to a party place and having someone say SORRY BUT YOU CANT COME IN!! It's total Bullshit.. and a complete lack of respect!!! PLURESPECT, Jeannie In a message dated 4/12/99 3:06:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: << Who wants to buy a presale if you aren't guaranteed a spot in a party? >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 02:14:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1799 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 02:14:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 1787 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 02:14:33 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 02:14:33 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA17947 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:13:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca9-57.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.185) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017910; Mon Apr 12 21:13:46 1999 Message-ID: <37123D85.3575@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:37:57 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Stolen items at parties Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I keep reading posts about people getting things stolen. Even last week a friend had a backpack stolen from right next to her with a camera in it and various other valuable items. Some girl walked up to my friends and said "Do I know you? Where are you from? You look familiar..." yaddi yadda and while she was talking to them someone must have snuck up behind them and took their backpacks. Now I think that is sooo utterly wrong that people would pull crap like that and take peoples shit however we all have to take responsibility for our own stuff. I carry my stuff in a small backpack that I try to never ever take off my back. I also try to not bring anything valuable. If I lose a disposable camera here and there no big deal. I may be bummed cause I lost some great pics but I don't have to replace a $400 camera. I don't bring a wallet, I don't bring credit cards. Please just be careful...not everyone is all PLUR and hugs. Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 02:16:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3193 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 02:16:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 3169 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 02:16:42 -0000 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.22) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 02:16:42 -0000 Received: from [209.179.144.222] (pool209-cvx.ds50-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.143.209]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08457 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:16:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:16:29 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Subject: total bsp: 66MHz-->this friday Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk uh. we've got a patry this weekend on friday/. and its going to be a tekno= party. there is going to be some really cool djs there. they'll be playin'= records too. uh... its in san fran but its not a very PLURRy party at all.= I don't think we really get that whole PLRU thing anyways. maybe next time= we'll make t-shirts or something. anyways i don't know what else to say= hjere because we've already put it all on our www site and I don't want to= waist bandwidth becuase that's not nice and i hope to see every one of you= there or well not every on eof you becuase there's like 500 people on= sfraves and we can only hold 250 people and thats including our freinds so= like I hope we can get like some of you there becuase it'll be really= really really really really really really really really really fun... gosh= aren't BSPs hard to do or what? http://www.mhz.nu/66mhz -radley MHz - Music beHind the noiZe * we eat candy ravers for breakfast From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 02:21:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7127 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 02:21:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 7078 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 02:21:25 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 02:21:25 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rBPYa21395; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:07:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <70dcd7f7.244400e4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:07:32 EDT Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! To: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey bad ass yo. . . good job. . . . I have a couple 16 year old friends who I'm getting to go to parties sober cuz I don't want their brains all warped by the time their brain actually develops. Too many kiddies (I can say that now. . . I'm almost 22) are trying all these "mind expanding" drugs at too early of an age, and many are getting somewhat heavily into it, e'in every weekend or more, frying, trying all these wack ass pet tranquilizers n all. And they're doing it all before their mind has a chance to mature naturally. I've seen too many kids in their little cartoon land when they're sober. These 16, 17, even 18 year olds have been using these drugs since they were in their early-mid teens. I myself think that that is wrong. But Moderation is always the key. If you're a young little genious, why don't you try sober raving for a bit, then occasionally, or maybe every other party or two do what you wunna do. You'll save what you got for your near future, then party if you want responsibly, but at least you have mostly a complete mind to start with, and you're not just starting out with a 3/4 developed one and going downhill. If anyone cares. . . the first time I e'd or fried or anything. . . I was 18. I usually rave sober. Kinda back n forth. But you REALLY know the parties fat when you're dancing your ass off for hours, having the f'in time of your life. . . and you're totally you, no drugs, alcohol, or anything. . . just you. Just my opinion folks. . . I love our youger generation and every one after that. But there's always the wisdom of those who know (not necessarily older folks) that can always help you when you don't. HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 02:38:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14814 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 02:38:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 14804 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 02:38:45 -0000 Received: from web203.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.103) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 02:38:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413023455.2225.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.215] by web203.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:34:55 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:34:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: total bsp: 66MHz-->this friday To: Radley Marx , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You've got style.love,Julie --- Radley Marx wrote: > > > > uh. we've got a patry this weekend on friday/. and > its going to be a tekno party. there is going to be > some really cool djs there. they'll be playin' > records too. uh... its in san fran but its not a > very PLURRy party at all. I don't think we really > get that whole PLRU thing anyways. maybe next time > we'll make t-shirts or something. anyways i don't > know what else to say hjere because we've already > put it all on our www site and I don't want to waist > bandwidth becuase that's not nice and i hope to see > every one of you there or well not every on eof you > becuase there's like 500 people on sfraves and we > can only hold 250 people and thats including our > freinds so like I hope we can get like some of you > there becuase it'll be really really really really > really really really really really really fun... > gosh aren't BSPs hard to do or what? > > > http://www.mhz.nu/66mhz > > > > -radley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MHz - Music beHind the noiZe > * we eat candy ravers for breakfast > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 02:43:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18458 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 02:43:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 18439 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 02:43:12 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 02:43:12 -0000 Received: from Raver34597@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vYZJa14441 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:37:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Raver34597@aol.com Message-ID: <312d24c6.244407f0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:37:36 EDT Subject: NRR: internet b-days To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Raver34597@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Have you ever wondered if there is a person on the internet for every single birthday? 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Get your 'Visto Briefcase' at http://www.visto.com/info From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 02:53:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21905 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 02:53:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 21891 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 02:53:32 -0000 Received: from law-f72.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.135) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 02:53:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 98013 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 02:53:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413025331.98012.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.237.58.114 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:53:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [169.237.58.114] From: "Kilmeny 2" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: chris jackson's tape: pretty damn dope Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:53:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THANX CHRIS FOR THE AWESOME TAPE!!!!!! IT'S BEEN IN MY TAPE PLAYER EVER SINCE I GOT IT IN THE MAIL A FEW DAYS AGO-----CHRIS IS AN AWESOME GUY THE TAPE CAME SUPER QUICK AND IT IS AN AWESOME MIX OF TUNES MAD PROPS TO CHRIS!!!!!!!! -KELLY Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 03:24:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5659 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 03:24:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 5651 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 03:24:02 -0000 Received: from web209.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.109) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 03:24:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413032742.788.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.215] by web209.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:27:42 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:27:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: My little opinion on TICKLE and newbies. . . To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You are brilliant and witty and thoughtful and such a colorful writer. I think you should publish yourself. I really do. love,Julie --- Aryck46@aol.com wrote: > Now let me get this schtuff straight first. I'm no > newbie to the > scene, being on and off this list for like 4-5 years > and raving for the past > 5 years, I'm sure I somewhat have more authority > than some of you people > who've just been here for like a year or whatever > and are now talking trash > about people new to the scene. > WHY? > If there was no one new. . . raves would die. The > new > generation brings with it new experiences, new > breeds of people, new music, > and diffirent styles of everything. > > Now I don't consider myself a candee raver, but I > do wear jewelry > that friends and strangers have made of given to me. > I'm the jolly runnin > around meeting EVERYONE and giving EVERYONE hugz > type of guy. Why is this bad > to some people. > > Really, I know that if I'm at a party with most > everyone wearing > candee n all (gangsters included) that that party > will be a fun one. Not > really cuz that means that the music will be better, > not cuz the location is > phat, but because everyone there is just super > beautiful happy jolly raver > peeps like me, and that's just the greatest place in > the world to be. . . > where EVERYONE loves EVERYONE. . . we don't know > why. . . "We Just Do!" > > Anyway. . . my experience at tickle was pretty > groovy. My buddy > michelle from rohnert park got me a ticket from > harmonics (hey Gianni) so I > didn't have to trip about that too much. Sat night I > drive there to get it > around 7 and drove back and finally arrived about > 9:30. I really don't feel > safe parking anywhere in oakland so I squeezed > between some big ol trucks > right across the street so the coppers would watch > my car for me (or tow it > away). > Just knowing that that party was at 2nd and jax > made me want to like > just go in my undies with an oxygen mask and rubber > gloves. It's ALWAYS super > sweaty greasy funky smelly, and it's one of the only > places I know of where > it sprinkles indoors. But DON'T SIT DOWN!!! You'll > get some straight weird > ass funky multi-colored schtuff all over everything. > . . I sat with my legs > crossed over something that looked like melted ice > cream or whatever but I > was lucky to only get that splooge on my sock. > I don't pay much attention to dj's usually. And I > still don't. But > the majority of the music had me dancing till I just > couldn't possible > breathe and had to lay below the clouds to get some > O2, There were a bunch of > groovy people there. A few were a little too messed > up. Like this one asian > girl who wanted to like jump on me and dance all > freaky. . . I was like. . . > uh. . . you can get on my shoulders if you want, so > she did and we walked > around while she loudly expressed her love for like > everybody there. After I > slid her off me, she was like all glued to me or > something, trying to grab my > tongue cuz it's pierces and she never kissed someone > with a pierced tongue > before (I thought everyone and their mother had > their tongues pierced???). It > was strange. Kinda funny. After all that I saw her > on lotsa other dude's > shoulders for like the rest of the night. > I just totally love parties right about 3 oclock. > The people start > slowly disappearing, the music changes a bit. . . > but then the people are all > comin off whatever they were on and some get kinda > upset. > I didn't see any fights, but I think I was with > Tina when we saw that > girl being carried out. She was probably just fine > like 8 hrs later. She was > just kinda small, and probably did a little too much > of whatever. > I still don't understand why most people have to > crowd into this > little ol space, like "The Dance Floor" just to > dance, when you can dance > anywhere, even ON the speakers. . . I did that for a > while, in the back room. > . . until someone said something that sounded like. > . . you can't dance up > there. He probably said, hey you up there with the > nice ass, or my grass is > up there. But when the people next to me got down i > was like. . . not really > paying attention so I just got off too. It's cool > though, I almost fell off > like 6 times. There was some little bad ass topless > candee raver dude just > groovin his ass off next to me on the bricks. . . > anyone know him ? He seemed > like a fun person. > All in all the party was fun. I pretty much always > have fun, but > sometimes I have a TON of fun and sometimes I just > have a BUNCH. But I love > it all anyway. I really feel kinda weird going home > alone though, I usually > don't, and I'm used to years with a girlie who lived > with me n all, so it > just feels really awkward. It's a weird life. It > seems like most ALL of my > budz are raver budz. But they pretty much all live > like an hour away. That > sucks, but that's cool too. Shit. . . I just bought > a new car like 3 wks ago, > it had 13 miles when I bout it, now it has 2839. > THATS THE END ??? > > HugZzzzzzZzzzzZzzzzZzzzzZzzzzZ > > "A hug is worth a super cajillizillion words. . . " > > LuvYA > > Aryck > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 03:44:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16733 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 03:44:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 16723 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 03:44:43 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 03:44:43 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA18724 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:43:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca40-33.ix.netcom.com(209.110.233.225) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma018589; Mon Apr 12 22:43:29 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990412202712.00afaa20@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:43:41 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Harmony & presale Tix! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, Ok so the question has been brought up... Should I keep buying presale tickets to guaruntee me a spot in these parties? The answer is yes. Or at least yes to the parties that you can trust. I don't mean to thrash on other promoters, but there is no reason for getting denied at the door if you purchase a presale ticket. The way I see it is that the promoter has two choices if they want to do presale correctly... 1) Sell only a certain predetermined amount of tickets presale and the rest at the door, but only selling enough tickets to be at capacity after you count the presale tickets. (If you sell 1000 presale tickets for a 2000 capacity venue then only sell 1000 tickets at the door... period and you have a sold out party.) 2) Sell your entire event out with presale tickets. Don't even deal with money at the door. (this is often hard to do, but sometimes it happens) So here are two things that promoters should do to avoid a complication. I don't really understand how someone could screw this up. It is so cut and dry. (of course, Harmony and I have had our days of overcrowded parties, but those were not even dealing with presale tickets. That was a whole other set of problems with map points.) I don't think Harmony has ever had a problem with a presale ticket holder not getting in. (there was that one time that someone talked to a raver and not a Harmony crew member and that raver told him that he couldn't get in even though we were only letting presale tix holders in. So remember always talk to a crew member from the party!) For this weeks Harmony Flower Festival we plan on totally underselling this event. We want you to have a comfortable awesome experience and not be turned away or stepped on/ squashed! We guaruntee that when you purchase a presale ticket to one of our events, you will absolutly get into the event. None of this bullshit about not getting your $'s worth! That sucks! Hope to see all of you out there! Remember to try to come in costume!!! (it is not required but it is encouraged) Peace and loooooove, Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 03:49:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19428 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 03:49:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19420 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 03:49:43 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 03:49:43 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id uYOIa07519; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:35:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:35:07 EDT Subject: Re: Stolen items at parties To: whtrabt@ix.netcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey. . . goddammit. . . This chick. . . I saw her at a few parties than this one night. . . we started talking and by golly. . . she stole my heart : ) Really though. . . I only bring what can fit on my pockets. . . only the money I'll need, and never anything I may lose or break. There ARE pickpocketeers out there. HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 03:51:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20758 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 03:51:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 20744 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 03:51:30 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 03:51:30 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vBBEa21404 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:47:02 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:47:02 EDT Subject: Is This True? Taco Bell Donating To Radical Causes? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_c998356.24441836_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BodhiInSF@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_c998356.24441836_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My R/M' forwarded this from a mailing list (Negative Land) that he subscribes to. Now...Is this for reals? Is Taco Bell getting involved in radical causes? Is there a shimmer of hope from greedy, $$$ Corporate America? Or is it that corporate America is so marinated with wealth right now, that they can throw a few million here and there so as to look like they are socially conscious? A publicity stunt for more customers? I mean, what's $15 million compared to the the billions that they make each year? Sort of like me giving 25c to a homeless hippy on Haight, and saying that I truly care for homless people. Hum?.... Thought I send this to your for your critique. Im still a little skeptical about all this. Peace and {{hugs}} ---Bodhi (NOTE: The following is not an RTMARK press release, but was written by members of the Taco Bell Liberation Army, an RTMARK-funded group. As a service to the TBLA, RTMARK is disseminating this release nearly verbatim, and we have not verified the accuracy of the statements contained herein. Please send questions to the TBLA directly, via mailto:tbla@rtmark.com.) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 9, 1999 TACO BELL FOUNDATION TO DONATE $15 MILLION TO "ARMY" Press conference: April 10, 1999, 5:00 p.m. 331 Sixth Ave. (Manhattan), New York City Contact: mailto:tbla@rtmark.com After overwhelming public response to Taco Bell Inc.'s series of commercials depicting their chihuahua mascot as a revolutionary leader, the company is announcing a surprising plan to live up to the images used to sell the new "gordita" tacos. $15 million from the company's advertising budget will be earmarked for donation to several causes which the Taco Bell Foundation has identified as "pressing struggles for equality and justice," according to a spokesperson. In celebration of their new committment to "radical social justice wherever tacos are found," Taco Bell will be hosting a ceremony in New York City to present $15 million to several important causes from across the continent. Presenting the awards will be leaders of the newly formed "Taco Bell Liberation Army" (TBLA) a grassroots activist organization which was formed based on the Taco Bell ads that feature what the TBLA calls "Chihuahua Guevara." Forming spontaneously in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, the organization will also receive seed money from the Taco Bell Foundation in hopes of creating a nationwide movement, according to the spokesperson. Representatives of the Taco Bell Foundation told the TBLA that after several years of windfall profits for Taco Bell, they were disturbed by research showing that over 38% of the population on either side of the border is unable to afford regular meals at Taco Bell, which has prided itself on low prices. "People were raving about the ads with red flags and protests," Taco Bell CEO Peter C. Waller told the group, "so we hope there will be a lot of support for this move to radical donations." The donations, divided between campaigns to cancel Third World debt, stop "Fast Track" free trade legislation, and support the Zapatista rebellion in Mexico, represent an unprecedented move in corporate philanthropy by making potentially unpopular political endorsements. Previously, Taco Bell Inc. has committed only to a donation of $15 million over six years for TEENSupreme, a mentoring and service program in cooperation with the Boys and Girls Clubs of America. Information about the causes being funded will be presented to the press at the event. # 30 # --part1_c998356.24441836_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: CaseyKsm@aol.com From: CaseyKsm@aol.com Full-name: CaseyKsm Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:58:39 EDT Subject: Fwd: [snuggles]: Taco Bell donates to "army"; free regional franchises To: BodhiInSF@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_c998356.2442e58f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CaseyKsm@aol.com --part2_c998356.2442e58f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_c998356.2442e58f_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (rly-zc02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.2]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:44:34 -0400 Received: from zima.ucf.ics.uci.edu (zima.ucf.ics.uci.edu [128.195.23.150]) by rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id MAA22348 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9619 invoked by alias); 9 Apr 1999 16:43:55 -0000 Delivered-To: snuggles-outgoing@zima.ucf.ics.uci.edu Received: (qmail 9612 invoked by uid 2005); 9 Apr 1999 16:43:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9605 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:43:50 -0000 Received: from falco.kuci.uci.edu (128.195.131.10) by zima.ucf.ics.uci.edu with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:43:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 3521 invoked by uid 1505); 9 Apr 1999 16:37:46 -0000 Delivered-To: snuggles@kuci.org Received: (qmail 3518 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 16:37:45 -0000 Received: from falco.kuci.uci.edu (brianm@128.195.131.10) by falco.kuci.uci.edu with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 16:37:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:37:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian MacDonald X-Sender: brianm@falco.kuci.uci.edu To: snuggles@kuci.org Subject: [snuggles]: Taco Bell donates to "army"; free regional franchises Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-snuggles@zima.ucf.ics.uci.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: snuggles@kuci.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- Forwarded message ---------- To: Chihuahua Enthusiast From: "rtmark.SNUGGLES" Subject: Taco Bell donates to "army"; free regional franchises This is not a commercial solicitation. To remove snuggles@kuci.org from our lists, write mailto:remove@rtmark.com?subject=snuggles@kuci.org (you MUST include snuggles@kuci.org in the subject or body of your message). DONATE A DOMAIN! RTMARK announces a "regional franchise" program, described on the front page of http://rtmark.com/. If you have a domain you would like RTMARK to help you exploit for cultural profit, please write mailto:franchise@rtmark.com. (NOTE: The following is not an RTMARK press release, but was written by members of the Taco Bell Liberation Army, an RTMARK-funded group. As a service to the TBLA, RTMARK is disseminating this release nearly verbatim, and we have not verified the accuracy of the statements contained herein. Please send questions to the TBLA directly, via mailto:tbla@rtmark.com.) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE April 9, 1999 TACO BELL FOUNDATION TO DONATE $15 MILLION TO "ARMY" Press conference: April 10, 1999, 5:00 p.m. 331 Sixth Ave. (Manhattan), New York City Contact: mailto:tbla@rtmark.com After overwhelming public response to Taco Bell Inc.'s series of commercials depicting their chihuahua mascot as a revolutionary leader, the company is announcing a surprising plan to live up to the images used to sell the new "gordita" tacos. $15 million from the company's advertising budget will be earmarked for donation to several causes which the Taco Bell Foundation has identified as "pressing struggles for equality and justice," according to a spokesperson. In celebration of their new committment to "radical social justice wherever tacos are found," Taco Bell will be hosting a ceremony in New York City to present $15 million to several important causes from across the continent. Presenting the awards will be leaders of the newly formed "Taco Bell Liberation Army" (TBLA) a grassroots activist organization which was formed based on the Taco Bell ads that feature what the TBLA calls "Chihuahua Guevara." Forming spontaneously in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, the organization will also receive seed money from the Taco Bell Foundation in hopes of creating a nationwide movement, according to the spokesperson. Representatives of the Taco Bell Foundation told the TBLA that after several years of windfall profits for Taco Bell, they were disturbed by research showing that over 38% of the population on either side of the border is unable to afford regular meals at Taco Bell, which has prided itself on low prices. "People were raving about the ads with red flags and protests," Taco Bell CEO Peter C. Waller told the group, "so we hope there will be a lot of support for this move to radical donations." The donations, divided between campaigns to cancel Third World debt, stop "Fast Track" free trade legislation, and support the Zapatista rebellion in Mexico, represent an unprecedented move in corporate philanthropy by making potentially unpopular political endorsements. Previously, Taco Bell Inc. has committed only to a donation of $15 million over six years for TEENSupreme, a mentoring and service program in cooperation with the Boys and Girls Clubs of America. Information about the causes being funded will be presented to the press at the event. # 30 # This is not a commercial solicitation. To remove snuggles@kuci.org from our lists, write mailto:remove@rtmark.com?subject=snuggles@kuci.org (you MUST include snuggles@kuci.org in the subject or body of your message). If you have received multiple copies of this notice and wish to receive only one, please remove as above all address versions but one. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + To unsubscribe, send the phrase "unsubscribe snuggles" without quotes + +in a message body to majordomo@kuci.org -- To get info on list policies,+ + use the phrase "info snuggles" instead + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --part2_c998356.2442e58f_boundary-- --part1_c998356.24441836_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 03:53:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22123 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 03:53:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22114 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 03:53:02 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 03:53:02 -0000 Received: from neserees.hip.berkeley.edu (neserees.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.40.23]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00936 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904130353.UAA00936@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Trance & Jungle Factory Subject: Many Thanks :) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all of you that attended Tickle 3: **Thank you so much for making this a great party!!!** It was awesome to see everybody so pumped and full of energy... the party had a wonderful vibe, and we've been getting nothing but positive support from all of you! Keep bringing all your smiling faces and positive vibes and we'll keep bringing you more great parties!! Our next event will be on May 22nd, our *2-year* anniversary! Until then, have fun and party responsibly! Yours, the Trance and Jungle Factory (Thomas & crew) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 04:00:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27776 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 04:00:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 27748 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 04:00:23 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 04:00:23 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vRSAa15514 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:54:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <61700840.244419f6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:54:30 EDT Subject: Re:Can someone help? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I was just wondering if someone can help me find out how many posts a person can have in one day.. There are a few on the list that post nonstop. I mean I dont mind so much but there is one girl one here that Just posts to everything and I think she can make at least some of them private. Especaily when she is just directing it to that person only..I guess she needs all the attention she can get, but please..... Someone help me out here with this question? Thanks =) Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 04:03:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29317 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 04:03:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 29305 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 04:03:05 -0000 Received: from web708.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 04:03:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413040323.16495.rocketmail@web708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.201.62] by web708.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:03:23 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:03:23 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: word from the Burning Man front. To: Troy Sheets Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Troy Sheets wrote: > > > > > > Sun, Kevin, and i checked out the town hall > meeting this saturday. the > > big news is that The Man will burn on saturday > night this year, so as > > to ease traffic congestion on monday morning. i > don't know how i feel > > about that. > > I think it is good. By Sunday, I was feeling the > event was winding down > away.. and the burn was more of a conclusion than a > climax to the event. i agree. saturday morning is when everyone who works for a living pulls in, goes crazy that night, and The Burn on sunday is kind of anti-climatic. however, i really liked the idea of that artifical city still being ((relativelly)) intact sunday morning for you to leasurely explore at your own pace. i don't know if that'll be the case this year. > > Burning Man isn't a rave event anymore, not > really. it's more like a > > I don't think it ever was.... oh, i'd dissagree with you there. '95 was the stuff that legands are made out of. Garth having the decks flipped on him my an aggitated local and then playing tru that monster lightning storm and still finding time to piss off goa gill and gateway. fueds, alliegances, love affairs, grudges, and all the special effects of a hollywood summer blockbuster packed into one weekend. then just turn your head and there's an infinate universe of empytiness for you to walk into. '96 had gateway doing the best party/art-performance that i've seen. ever. i don't like getting to artsy on people, but they used their amount of infante space to create a dance magnet greater than any rave you will ever see in this city, in a wharehouse, inside, anywhere. classic, classic, bay area rave moment. > > > feudal anarchy with techno over-lords blasting > thier soundsytems > > straight at strangers camps and just looking for a > fight. i don't find > > myself defending thier actions as much as i used > to anymore. time to > > leave the party. > > Several soundsystems were attempting to be > respectful last year... keeping > their systems contained by domes or hey walls. > Unfortuantly, it just > takes a few disrespectful soundsystems to spoil it. > But, if you > were camped at the north tip of the city... you > *knew* you were in the > loud zone... > > You can dance to loud music anytime... I am going > to be more into > comfy ambient chill spaces this year ala the Nub > Chai Tent/Biancas... ah, the nub chai people. they were the ones with that psychodelic bus, correct ? the ones that had that native american dj who had spun at stompy spin for them in '97. that was a *real* fun camp for me. i've got to find those peope and congragulate them on a job well done. > > -troy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You > have found me > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my > .mp3 tracks > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey > Kasem in rare form > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 04:11:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2572 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 04:11:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 2540 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 04:11:28 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 04:11:28 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA04280; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for cache.ns.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 04:18:25 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:11:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'Trance & Jungle Factory'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Many Thanks :) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:11:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk now this makes me mad. i wasn't too bitter about not getting in saturday night even though i had a presale, but now i am simply pissed! does anyone at the T&J factory have any clue as to what happened saturday night?? that actually some people didn't get in even with presales?! denise, i don't mean to start something here, but you know that some people who were supposed to get in and have fun at the party did not - you're the one who told us we could not get in. i go out several nights a week and that's why i didn't want to make a big deal out of tickle. but some people don't party that much and look forward to events like this, and the fact that some of them could not get in due to a clear lack of organization is not cool. i don't care if there were only 2, 3, 5, or 10 people who were left outside with presales, an apology is not too much asking. i'm glad you feel the party was success, but be respectful of those you disappointed. loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Trance & Jungle Factory [SMTP:neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu] > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 8:53 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Many Thanks :) > > To all of you that attended Tickle 3: > > **Thank you so much for making this a great party!!!** > > It was awesome to see everybody so pumped and full > of energy... the party had a wonderful vibe, and > we've been getting nothing but positive support from > all of you! Keep bringing all your smiling faces > and positive vibes and we'll keep bringing you more > great parties!! Our next event will be on May 22nd, > our *2-year* anniversary! Until then, have fun and > party responsibly! > > Yours, > the Trance and Jungle Factory > (Thomas & crew) > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 04:22:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7135 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 04:22:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 7121 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 04:22:23 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 04:22:23 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id dIPAa01910; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:19:25 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <96d9ac2e.24441fcd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:19:25 EDT Subject: Re: total bsp: 66MHz-->this friday To: radley@elemental.nu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have 1 thing to say, THANK GOD ITS NOT A PLUR PARTY, i will be there 4 SURE! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 05:06:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28412 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 05:06:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 28402 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 05:06:35 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 05:06:35 -0000 Received: from neserees.hip.berkeley.edu (neserees.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.40.23]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12449; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904130506.WAA12449@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Comolli, Loic" , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Trance & Jungle Factory Subject: RE: Many Thanks :) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry to piss you off loic... i sent that thank-you note before i read all my incoming mail. it was unfortunate a small handful of ticket-holders didn't get in, and we do apologize for that. but please give us the benefit of the doubt, we wanted to get everyone in as quickly as possible. the smaller the line is outside, the less intimidating the party looks to the cops, hence lowering the chances of the party being busted and spoiling it for everyone. if you were working the entrance maybe you could've seen what a mad headache it was rushing everyone in. it all gets kinda confusing ya know. not to mention this is the first time we've used 2nd @ jax, and we've learned a lot from this past weekend. what can i say but live and learn. we won't have this problem at our next party. i'm sorry for those of you that didn't get in on saturday. we're giving you 2 options to fix this situation: 1. get your $20 refund (call the store @ 510.704.9876 and talk to thomas) or 2. trade in your tickle 3 ticket for a spot on the guest list for our upcoming 2-year anniversary party on may 22nd, plus a complimentary copy of thomas trouble's latest tape. again guys, it does suck that some people didn't get in that should've. if anyone else wants to share their thoughts on this matter, give me an email and we'll see if we can smooth out the wrinkles. sincerely, denise At 09:11 PM 04/12/99 -0700, you wrote: >now this makes me mad. i wasn't too bitter about not getting in saturday >night even though i had a presale, but now i am simply pissed! > >does anyone at the T&J factory have any clue as to what happened saturday >night?? that actually some people didn't get in even with presales?! denise, >i don't mean to start something here, but you know that some people who were >supposed to get in and have fun at the party did not - you're the one who >told us we could not get in. > >i go out several nights a week and that's why i didn't want to make a big >deal out of tickle. but some people don't party that much and look forward >to events like this, and the fact that some of them could not get in due to >a clear lack of organization is not cool. i don't care if there were only 2, >3, 5, or 10 people who were left outside with presales, an apology is not >too much asking. > >i'm glad you feel the party was success, but be respectful of those you >disappointed. > >loic > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 05:21:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5599 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 05:21:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 5430 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 05:21:13 -0000 Received: from f273.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.164) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 05:21:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 63202 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 05:20:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413052046.63201.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:20:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: eeelips@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: nrr:obvious Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:20:45 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Julie, I don't know who is asking you for a romantic relationship, but they are probably just trying to make up for the people on the list who dumped you last fall. love,Wayne ---------- >From: Geri Dahl >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: nrr:obvious >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:38 -0700 (PDT) > >I know who is reading my posts. I can also see where your biases >currently lie. Interesting. I like to people watch. I am not available >for a romantic relationship. I am married, and my spouse and I are >currently engaging in and enjoying a monogamous relationship. Thank you >for your interest just the same. I am flattered.love,Julie > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 05:34:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10977 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 05:34:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 10768 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 05:34:39 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 05:34:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413053855.14825.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.24.241.162] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:38:55 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:38:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Fnord Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi, my name is Chris, long time lurker, first time poster. It looks like a lot of people on this list have been going to parties for quite some time, but I’m a new kid, and my memory of my first party is quite fresh in my mind not only because it was intense and wonderful, but also because it was not too long ago. My first one was Love-A-Fair, this past February. I had not talked to the many people who dislike Home Base and/or massives in general, so my mind was pretty much a blank slate, and I was excited. My reason for going was pretty simple; I decided that I didn’t want to grow old and then die having never gone to a rave and at least seen what it was like. I have friends who had gone to them for about two years, but I was never that interested; I didn’t really figure it’d be “my scene.” But when I heard some of my friends were going to Love-A-Fair, I was like, what the hell, why not? And so it began... I went with my girlfriend and a gay male friend of ours; it was his first as well and she had only gone to one or two a while back. Looking back, I don’t think I could have chosen two more positive upbeat people to go with. I remember as the night went on, it got more and more intense. At its peak we were in the trance room listening to Mars and/or Mystre (both names I did not know at the time). I found my body wanting to move on its own, the music jumping into me and making me dance. All the chatter of my mind completely ceased; we all danced and danced for hours that seem like one single moment extended to eternity. Everyone we met was really great to us. It was not used to everyone being so nice; the only time I had been around so many people with loud music playing was at concerts of the metal or punk or ska variety. I was so pleasantly surprised when some person would give me a piece of their candy, when someone we had talked to two hours ago would greet us enthusiastically two hours later when we’d run into them, how anyone who bumped into me would put their hand on my shoulder and apologize, how everyone was dancing with everyone and beautiful to everyone... it was like nothing I’d ever experienced. Yes, my friends, I was hooked. A couple days later, I borrowed a Mars tape from my friend, hoping it would still sound good without chemical assistance. A few seconds through, I began to laugh- not only did I love listening to it, but it brought back all the wonderful feelings of that night, and made me want to dance around my room just for the hell of it; a feeling I was happy to indulge. I still do that sometimes, and I don’t really think it’s weird anymore; I only wonder why I didn’t start doing this a long time ago. -Chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 06:53:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9154 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 06:53:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 9144 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 06:53:31 -0000 Received: from web218.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 06:53:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413065357.23044.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.20.159] by web218.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:53:57 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? To: Fnord Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im hella jealous. Its never like the first time. Glad you are enjoying the scene, I have only been in it since October, so I am kinda new, too. My first party on the west coast was Innercense 2, in Santa Rosa, and I had such a great time! That definetly got me hooked on the scene out here and Harmony parties. Nothing like east coast parties, much better vibe here. I have been to every Harmony party since, and its always a great party. There are a lot of great crews out here, like Cloudfactory and Epiphany. I think we have one of the best scenes in the country. Whoa.I went off on a tangent, sorry! Steve =) -- Fnord wrote: > > Hi, my name is Chris, long time lurker, first time > poster. It looks like a lot of people on this list > have been going to parties for quite some time, but > I’m a new kid, and my memory of my first party is > quite fresh in my mind not only because it was > intense > and wonderful, but also because it was not too long > ago. > My first one was Love-A-Fair, this past February. I > had not talked to the many people who dislike Home > Base and/or massives in general, so my mind was > pretty > much a blank slate, and I was excited. My reason for > going was pretty simple; I decided that I didn’t > want > to grow old and then die having never gone to a rave > and at least seen what it was like. I have friends > who > had gone to them for about two years, but I was > never > that interested; I didn’t really figure it’d be “my > scene.” But when I heard some of my friends were > going > to Love-A-Fair, I was like, what the hell, why not? > And so it began... > I went with my girlfriend and a gay male friend of > ours; it was his first as well and she had only gone > to one or two a while back. Looking back, I don’t > think I could have chosen two more positive upbeat > people to go with. > I remember as the night went on, it got more and > more > intense. At its peak we were in the trance room > listening to Mars and/or Mystre (both names I did > not > know at the time). I found my body wanting to move > on > its own, the music jumping into me and making me > dance. All the chatter of my mind completely ceased; > we all danced and danced for hours that seem like > one > single moment extended to eternity. > Everyone we met was really great to us. It was not > used to everyone being so nice; the only time I had > been around so many people with loud music playing > was > at concerts of the metal or punk or ska variety. I > was > so pleasantly surprised when some person would give > me > a piece of their candy, when someone we had talked > to > two hours ago would greet us enthusiastically two > hours later when we’d run into them, how anyone who > bumped into me would put their hand on my shoulder > and > apologize, how everyone was dancing with everyone > and > beautiful to everyone... it was like nothing I’d > ever > experienced. Yes, my friends, I was hooked. > A couple days later, I borrowed a Mars tape from my > friend, hoping it would still sound good without > chemical assistance. A few seconds through, I began > to > laugh- not only did I love listening to it, but it > brought back all the wonderful feelings of that > night, > and made me want to dance around my room just for > the > hell of it; a feeling I was happy to indulge. I > still > do that sometimes, and I don’t really think it’s > weird > anymore; I only wonder why I didn’t start doing this > a > long time ago. > > -Chris > > > === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 06:59:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10500 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 06:59:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 10492 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 06:59:23 -0000 Received: from rumpleteazer.ucsc.edu (HELO cats.ucsc.edu) (128.114.129.45) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 06:59:23 -0000 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (tsa-37.dialup.UCSC.EDU [128.114.128.137]) by cats.ucsc.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4.cats-athena) with ESMTP id XAA04160 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3712EA69.263C6793@cats.ucsc.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:55:47 -0700 From: Jared Very Sexty Reply-To: jarman@cats.ucsc.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP ALL PLAY TOGETHER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings to all the cyber ravers! Jus writing to tell everyone that presale tickets for All Play Together go on sale this week at F8, T&JF, Harmonics, Solid Grooves, Pipeline, and In The Mix. This is a limited capacity event in a rarely used location and we're trying our best to make it a truly special night. We're giving away bottled water at the door to keep you well hydrated throughout the night. The party goes from 10-6 on April 24th, call for more info if your interested. 415-289-6553 Hope that everyone is finding life agreeable, and we look forward to seeing you so we can All Play Together. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 07:04:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13769 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 07:04:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13761 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 07:04:22 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 07:04:22 -0000 Received: from C166266A ([24.1.87.7]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990413070420.HRAA19957.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@C166266A> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:04:20 -0700 Message-ID: <003701be857b$a27b1700$07570118@pinol1.sfba.home.com> From: "Bill Walker" To: References: <19990413053855.14825.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: exploding whale [NRR] Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:02:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/~hacks/misc/whale/ .... 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Check it. ;) m0rb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 07:04:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14434 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 07:04:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 14426 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 07:04:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 07:04:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 13719 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 07:04:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413070440.13718.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:04:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: yana@briefcase.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: Titanic song Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:04:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have NO idea. i haven't gone and checked. but if you find it, please lemme know. thanks. love LuSh SnOOpiE >From: "Yana" >Reply-To: yana@briefcase.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Re: Titanic song >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:29:15 -0700 > >Is there any website where this song can be found?... > >> LuSh SnOOpiE wrote: >> >> > this is the song that mars and mystre ALWAYS >> play. it's getting kinda >> > old, but i like it still (mainly when i'm on >> E, and then i like >> > everything! :P). >> > >Web. Visit >> http://www.msn.com >> >> > > >Better than free email: shared calendar, files, and more... >Get your 'Visto Briefcase' at http://www.visto.com/info > > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 07:08:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16193 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 07:08:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16185 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 07:08:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web802.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 07:08:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413070839.17761.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.46.159] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:08:39 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:08:39 -0700 (PDT) From: bruce chen Subject: toy for ravers! To: steve@warmth.org, Fnord Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you will love this...=) http://www.multimania.com/goprof/fsdancer.htm glad to see you again, sf ravers! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 07:20:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19148 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 07:20:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 19140 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 07:20:50 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 07:20:50 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id gICSa27564; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:20:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:20:13 EDT Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? (HARMONY PARTIES, YAY!!) To: steve@warmth.org, autodementia@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Harmony parties!!! YEAH!! My first party was a Harmony Party in (HARMONY 5=20 YEAR: in September, 1998). I'll never forget it. . . . strangers coming up=20 to me, giving hugz, nobody feeling excluded.. . It was just too awesome. =20 That's when I thought about really becoming a full-time raver. =3D) Ravers=20 are the coolest kind of people. I've always had a hard time meeting people,=20 whether it's at clubs or school and stuff, but going to raves, it's so easy=20 to meet people. I can like go up to anybody and start talking to them and=20 they'll totally make me feel comfortable around the scene. YEP!! I Sure Do=20 Love You Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep the good vibes!!!! Luv n Hugs, **Muuuaaahhhh!!** =09=09Tami =3D) << Im hella jealous. Its never like the first time.=20 Glad you are enjoying the scene, I have only been in it since October, so I am kinda new, too. My first party on the west coast was Innercense 2, in Santa Rosa, and I had such a great time! That definetly got me hooked on the scene out here and Harmony parties.=20 Nothing like east coast parties, much better vibe here. I have been to every Harmony party since, and its always a great party. There are a lot of great crews out here, like Cloudfactory and Epiphany. I think we have one of the best scenes in the country. =20 Whoa.I went off on a tangent, sorry! =20 Steve =3D) =20 -- Fnord wrote: >=20 > =09Hi, my name is Chris, long time lurker, first time > poster. It looks like a lot of people on this list > have been going to parties for quite some time, but > I=92m a new kid, and my memory of my first party is > quite fresh in my mind not only because it was > intense > and wonderful, but also because it was not too long > ago. > =09My first one was Love-A-Fair, this past February. I > had not talked to the many people who dislike Home > Base and/or massives in general, so my mind was > pretty > much a blank slate, and I was excited. My reason for > going was pretty simple; I decided that I didn=92t > want > to grow old and then die having never gone to a rave > and at least seen what it was like. I have friends > who > had gone to them for about two years, but I was > never > that interested; I didn=92t really figure it=92d be =93my > scene.=94 But when I heard some of my friends were > going > to Love-A-Fair, I was like, what the hell, why not? > And so it began... > =09I went with my girlfriend and a gay male friend of > ours; it was his first as well and she had only gone > to one or two a while back. Looking back, I don=92t > think I could have chosen two more positive upbeat > people to go with. > =09I remember as the night went on, it got more and > more > intense. At its peak we were in the trance room > listening to Mars and/or Mystre (both names I did > not > know at the time). I found my body wanting to move > on > its own, the music jumping into me and making me > dance. All the chatter of my mind completely ceased; > we all danced and danced for hours that seem like > one > single moment extended to eternity.=20 > =09Everyone we met was really great to us. It was not > used to everyone being so nice; the only time I had > been around so many people with loud music playing > was > at concerts of the metal or punk or ska variety. I > was > so pleasantly surprised when some person would give > me > a piece of their candy, when someone we had talked > to > two hours ago would greet us enthusiastically two > hours later when we=92d run into them, how anyone who > bumped into me would put their hand on my shoulder > and > apologize, how everyone was dancing with everyone > and > beautiful to everyone... it was like nothing I=92d > ever > experienced. Yes, my friends, I was hooked. > =09A couple days later, I borrowed a Mars tape from my > friend, hoping it would still sound good without > chemical assistance. A few seconds through, I began > to > laugh- not only did I love listening to it, but it > brought back all the wonderful feelings of that > night, > and made me want to dance around my room just for > the > hell of it; a feeling I was happy to indulge. I > still > do that sometimes, and I don=92t really think it=92s > weird > anymore; I only wonder why I didn=92t start doing this > a > long time ago. >=20 > =09-Chris >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 07:48:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25115 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 07:48:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 25105 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 07:48:47 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 07:48:47 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (1Cust137.tnt1.sfo1.da.uu.net [208.250.183.137]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA28106 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990413013641.006b7cdc@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:36:41 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: swati shah Subject: Last chance!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_924017801==_" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_924017801==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Alright, this is it. This is your last chance to help me with Project Bliss. I need responses by this Saturday, April 17. Just to remind you, this is my project to encourage kids to go to a party sober. I feel that every raver should be able to go to a party sober. And in my definition, marijuana doesn't count. I'm not saying that everyone should be sober all the time, but give yourself the choice to take something or not. No one should miss a party because they don't want to be sober. Its almost a skill, to focus on the music and the vibe rather than on just getting as fucked up as possible. but the music is there, and the people are there, to get you as high or higher than anything, if only you allow it. So, this is how you can help me. 1) If you've never been to a party sober, try it once. Lose yourself to the music. And then, email me the next day with your experience. 2) If you have been going to parties sober, write me an email about your first sober party, or any experiences you have that you want to share. Write to me about your thoughts on the connections between raves and drugs, and how you see the relationship evolving through your experiences. 3) Everyone, fill out my survey that is attached at the end of this email and send it back to me. Its just about how often you rave, and how often you use certain drugs. Feel free to share any stories you have with me, I love them all. Of course, everything will be kept confidential. I understand the fragility of some of the issues discussed, and only I will know who responded how. Security is not a problem. Thanks to all who have already responded to me, and to all of you who will, I hope. Love, Swati ps Again, I need a response by April 17, this Saturday. 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<3.0.3.32.19990412184322.006b7cdc@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:43:22 -0700 To: Mark , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: swati shah Subject: Re: was i tickled? In-Reply-To: <37129F92.E4A2F2D6@thegrid.net> References: <3.0.3.32.19990412182121.006af95c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 06:36 PM 4/12/99 -0700, Mark wrote: >No, imo the party was not packed, I'll verify this for you. Thats the whole >point. It's a good thing it was not packed, they were RIGHT not to let you in >if you showed up at 11:30 without presale. Dude, read my letter. I had presale tickets sitting in my wallet for 6 days before the party. I know enough to get tickets in advance, and to only complain when i have a right to. *** Even with a presale, >> even after talking to Thomas, I couldn't get in. It was one of the saddest >> moments of my life.****** that's what i wrote in my letter. don't diss me, please. Swati had presale and >didn't get in had a right to be pissed, but otherwise, thats life, better to not >pack the place so the people who did get in can have fun, then stuff it so full >that no one does. > >oi, >symmetry > >swati shah wrote: > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 07:59:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29177 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 07:59:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 29169 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 07:59:23 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 07:59:23 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vRPMa23591 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:58:36 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:58:36 EDT Subject: Re: Titanic song To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk am i the only one on this list who actually LIKES the song? damn! feel free to flame me =P PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 08:02:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 542 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 08:02:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 533 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 08:02:15 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 08:02:15 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vKKBa23592; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:01:37 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: <7cc62d5e.244453e1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:01:37 EDT Subject: Re: Titanic song To: AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i saw the dance version of the titanic song on a used cd at AMOEBA in HAiGHT for 5.99 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 08:15:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6436 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 08:15:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6376 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 08:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 08:15:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 37653 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 08:14:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413081423.37652.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.78 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:14:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.78] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Did someone say first party experience? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:14:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the first party that i ever went to was january 31, 1998. it seems like soooo long ago. since then, so much has changed in my life, for the better of course. at the time, i was a senior in high school and living in hawaii. i had lived in hawaii all my life. i had gone around in many scenes, trying out new things, but i never really stuck with anything for too long. nothing really seemed to interest me. the kids that i was friends with at school all went to raves, but i never went with them. but one day, my friends anale'a and megan kept urging me to go to this party called RAVELAND. i didn't really know much about it, and i thought, well hey, i'd like to try it. i'm willing to try anything once. i had no idea what djs were playing, but i didn't care, i just wanted to go out and have fun. when the day of the rave came, we drove around everywhere to find presale, which was close to impossible. this was surprising because in hawaii, raves almost never sell out. the scene there is so small that we hardly ever have presale anyway. so finally we found a place that had some tickets left and then went to my friend's house to get ready. we got dressed in our cute little outfits and drove to the warehouse where the rave was at. the whole time, i was so nervous and excited, i could barely stand it. i had no idea what to expect. when we got to the warehouse (called atomik) and stood in line, i had no idea that i would later be calling this place my second home. i gave the girl at the door my presale and went on in. house music was blasting all around me, and everyone i saw was just smiling and happy. it was such a welcoming place. my friend got me a hit of E from one of her friends and gave it to me. i had never done E before, but i just figured it was like acid or pot. boy was i wrong!!! i took it and an hour later, i still wasn't feeling it. it was making me really nervous and i kept thinking about how it was going to make me feel. when it finally hit me, i was just gone. my stomach started to go on a roller coaster ride and i couldn't take it. i layed down on a massage table this guy warner brought. my whole body was shaking and i couldn't get up from the table. my friends were concerned about me, and my friend meg kept checking on me to see if i was ok. this guy was sitting next to me on the table, and just started talking to me. he ended up taking care of me the whole night long, just sitting there, making sure i was ok, even though he was tripping his ass off. finally, after my E cooled down a bit, my friends ripped me off the table and took me to the floor. they kept telling me "c'mon you gotta see her spin." so i got up and went over to the dj booth. i watched this girl spin for a bit, totally amazed by what she was doing, but then i couldn't take it anymore and i had to go back to my spot on the table. i ended up spending the whole night on that table taking to the guy that took care of me named joel (who ended up becoming one of my really good friends). after the party was over, we all went over to my friend's house and had a cracked out little after party. that was fun. i couldn't stop talking after i came down and ended up losing my voice. everyone was joking around, saying that i sounded like a 50- year-old man. after that night, i continued to go to parties every weekend and met tons of new kids. i got more and more into techno, and later realized that the girl dj that i saw at my first party was sandra collins. it's rare to get big name djs in hawaii, and it's just funny that i had no idea who she was that night. it's been over a year now since i first started and it's funny how time flys. i moved out to sf in august and was blown away at my first party here. it was tickle in september over at maritime. i had never seen so many kids before. and that was nothing. the next party i went to was megga buzz and i just didn't know what to do with myself. i had never ever seen that many ravers in my life. it's just not like that in hawaii. and i don't think it will ever be. i went back to hawaii for christmas, and it really hit me how things change. before it used to be all nice and happy and loving, but now it's just got a cold feel to it. plus there's a lot of new kids that just don't know what they're doing. and all the old skoolers have been around so long, that they're starting to get hella cracked out. it's just really sad. i'm going back for summer, and i'm looking forward to seeing how things are now. i just hope that i can spread some sf love to my island kids. i have to give mad props to all my kids back home! to all the djs: daniel j, murillo, evillyn, g-spot, erotic, danny boy, archangel (my favorite dj), tricky trevor (the sexiest dj in hawaii, and the craziest), the trinity crew (spex, 4est, and mase), the bassment addicts (bassx and spaceman spiff), ikon, big daddy dave, pas-sean. to all the promoters: matthew grim, double-o-spot crew (g-spot we love you. can g-spot come out to play?), technine industries (jason is a cutie), d.o.E. enterprises (ikon). and to all my kids: talia (my favorite), kyle, gary, and all the rest (there are too many to name.) i love you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hope to see everyone this weekend at harmony. spread some love! love lia the one and only LuSh SnOOpiE ;P Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 08:33:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10402 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 08:33:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 10389 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 08:33:43 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 08:33:43 -0000 Received: from bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu (bow-107-70.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.107.70]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA28069 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?pyBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciCn?=" To: Subject: To Friends... Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:30:21 -0400 Message-ID: <01be856e$b9c2ca00$466be5a9@bow-107-70.reshall.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A5_01BE854D.32B12A00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01BE854D.32B12A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well originally I sent this out to all my close friends. But seeing = that I have felt so much PLUR from you guys, I'm sending this out to all = of you and I hope you well continue on and spread this warmth. Chris. ROSES.... Red roses were her favorites, her name was also Rose. And every year her husband sent them, tied with pretty bows. The year he died, the roses were delivered to her door. The card said, "Be my Valentine", like all the years before. Each year = he sent her roses, and the note would always say, "I love you even more = this year, than last year on this day. My love for you will always grow, = with every passing year." She knew this was the last time that the roses = would appear. She thought, he ordered roses in advance before this day. Her loving husband did not know, that he would pass away. He always = liked to do things early, way before the time. Then, if he got too busy, everything would work out fine. She trimmed the stems, and placed them = in a very special vase. Then, sat the vase beside the portrait of his = smiling face. She would sit for hours, in her husband's favorite chair. While staring at his picture, and the roses sitting there. A year went = by, and it was hard to live without her mate. With loneliness and solitude, that had become her fate. Then, the very hour, as on Valentines before, The doorbell rang, and there were roses, sitting by her door. She = brought the roses in, and then just looked at them in shock. Then, went to get = the telephone, to call the florist shop. The owner answered, and she asked = him, if he would explain, Why would someone do this to her, causing her such pain? "I know your husband passed away, more than a year ago," The owner said, "I knew = you'd call, and you would want to know. The flowers you received today, were = paid for in advance. Your husband always planned ahead, he left nothing to chance. There is a standing order, that I have on file down here, And = he has paid, well in advance, you'll get them every year. There also is another thing, that I think you should know, He wrote a special little card...he did this years ago. Then, should ever I find out that he's no longer here, That's the card...that should be sent, to you the following year." She thanked him and hung up the phone, her tears now flowing hard. Her fingers shaking, as she slowly reached to get the card. Inside the card, she saw that he had written her a note. Then, as she stared in total silence, this is what he wrote... "Hello my love, I know it's been a year since I've been gone, I hope it hasn't been too hard for you to overcome. I know it must be lonely, and = the pain is very real. For if it was the other way, I know how I would = feel. The love we shared made everything so beautiful in life. I loved you = more than words can say, you were the perfect wife. You were my friend and lover, you fulfilled my every need. I know it's only been a year, but please try not to grieve. I want you = to be happy, even when you shed your tears. That is why the roses will be = sent to you for years. When you get these roses, think of all the happiness, That we had together, and how both of us were blessed. I have always = loved you and I know I always will. But, my love, you must go on, you have = some living still. Please...try to find happiness, while living out your = days. I know it is not easy, but I hope you find some ways. The roses will = come every year, and they will only stop, When your door's not answered, when = the florist stops to knock. He will come five times that day, in case you = have gone out. But after his last visit, he will know without a doubt, To> = take the roses to the place, where I've instructed him, And place the roses = where we are, together once again. Sometimes in life, you find a special friend; Someone who changes your life just by being part of it. Someone who makes you laugh until you can't stop; Someone who makes you believe that there really is good in the world. Someone who convinces you that there really is an unlocked door just waiting for you to open it. 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Well originally I sent this out to = all my close=20 friends.  But seeing that I have felt so much PLUR from you guys, = I'm=20 sending this out to all of you and I hope you well continue on and = spread this=20 warmth.
 
Chris.
 
ROSES....

Red roses were her favorites, her name was also Rose.
And = every year=20 her husband sent them, tied with pretty bows.
The year he died, the = roses=20 were delivered to her door.
The card said, "Be my = Valentine", like=20 all the years before.  Each year he
sent her roses, and the note = would=20 always say, "I love you even more this
year, than last year on = this=20 day.  My love for you will always grow, with
every passing=20 year."  She knew this was the last time that the roses=20 would
appear.  She thought, he ordered roses in advance before = this=20 day.
Her loving husband did not know, that he would pass away.  = He=20 always liked
to do things early, way before the time.  Then, if = he got=20 too busy,
everything would work out fine.  She trimmed the = stems, and=20 placed them in a
very special vase.  Then, sat the vase beside = the=20 portrait of his smiling
face.  She would sit for hours, in her = husband's=20 favorite chair.
While staring at his picture, and the roses sitting=20 there.  A year went by,
and it was hard to live without her = mate. =20 With loneliness and solitude,
that had become her fate.
Then, the = very=20 hour, as on Valentines before,
The doorbell rang, and there were = roses,=20 sitting by her door.  She brought
the roses in, and then just = looked at=20 them in shock.  Then, went to get the
telephone, to call the = florist=20 shop.  The owner answered, and she asked him,
if he would=20 explain,
Why would someone do this to her, causing her such = pain? =20 "I know your
husband passed away, more than a year ago," = The owner=20 said, "I knew you'd
call, and you would want to know.  The = flowers=20 you received today, were paid
for in advance.  Your husband = always=20 planned ahead, he left nothing to
chance.  There is a standing = order,=20 that I have on file down here, And he
has paid, well in advance, = you'll get=20 them every year.  There also is
another thing, that I think you = should=20 know, He wrote a special little
card...he did this years ago.  = Then,=20 should ever I find out that he's no
longer here, That's the = card...that=20 should be sent, to you the following
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She thanked him = and hung=20 up the phone, her tears now flowing hard.
Her fingers shaking, as she = slowly=20 reached to get the card.
Inside the card, she saw that he had written = her a=20 note.  Then, as she
stared in total silence, this is what he=20 wrote...
"Hello my love, I know it's been a year since I've been = gone, I=20 hope it
hasn't been too hard for you to overcome.  I know it = must be=20 lonely, and the
pain is very real.  For if it was the other way, = I know=20 how I would feel.
The love we shared made everything so beautiful in=20 life.  I loved you more
than words can say, you were the perfect = wife.  You were my friend and
lover, you fulfilled my every = need.
I=20 know it's only been a year, but please try not to grieve.  I want = you=20 to
be happy, even when you shed your tears.  That is why the = roses will=20 be sent
to you for years.  When you get these roses, think of = all the=20 happiness,
That we had together, and how both of us were = blessed.  I=20 have always loved
you and I know I always will.  But, my love, = you must=20 go on, you have some
living still.  Please...try to find = happiness,=20 while living out your days.
I know it is not easy, but I hope you = find some=20 ways.  The roses will come
every year, and they will only stop, = When=20 your door's not answered, when the
florist stops to knock.  He = will come=20 five times that day, in case you have
gone out.  But after his = last=20 visit, he will know without a doubt, To> take
the roses to the = place,=20 where I've instructed him, And place the roses where
we are, together = once=20 again.

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Someone = who=20 changes your life just by being part of it.
Someone who makes you = laugh until=20 you can't stop;
Someone who makes you believe that there really is = good in=20 the world.
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------=_NextPart_000_00A5_01BE854D.32B12A00-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 08:52:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13838 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 08:52:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13827 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 08:52:32 -0000 Received: from mail-gw5.pacbell.net (206.13.28.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 08:52:32 -0000 Received: from fiveartists.com (TiER@ppp-206-170-29-203.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.29.203]) by mail-gw5.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id BAA27394; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371304CF.81432B5B@fiveartists.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:48:18 -0700 From: Nemo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Titanic song Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dude, i totally dig the song. ^_^ PanduhBoi [ a n t o n ] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 08:52:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14030 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 08:52:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 13867 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 08:52:34 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 08:52:34 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vUTIa25415 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:52:03 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <4b83c7a3.24445fb3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:52:03 EDT Subject: AllThoseOn AOL! 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July: 1. 2. 3. 4. <<<> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 08:55:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16149 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 08:55:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 16141 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 08:55:26 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 08:55:26 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id uWZIa25415; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:54:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:54:56 EDT Subject: Re: Stolen items at parties To: whtrabt@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Ezzm@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I find it very useful to have a copy of your car key made I always leave my regular keys at home or at a friends. I clip the spare key to my belt. This way I am saved from having a fat set of keys jangle in my pocket and if my key does get lost or stolen, there is no way to match it up to my car since it is a copy.(Believe me, many factory original keys are very easy to match up to cars, even in a large parking lot) This method saves you the trouble of having to break into your car (i been there) and makes you look really cool. Da soopa (go find me a coat hanger and i'll break into any car) smak MO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 08:55:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16798 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 08:55:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 16789 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 08:55:53 -0000 Received: from web217.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 08:55:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413085606.13251.rocketmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.20.159] by web217.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:56:06 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:56:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Re: HApPY BdaY To: MIB271@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- MIB271@aol.com wrote: > January: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* > ******JeSsiCa AnD jR foR > LiFe****** > 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > February: > 1. > 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net > 3. > 4. > 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > March: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > April: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send > presents)lol > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER > *i <3 > U* > 27. CrmyGdns AKA Steve Best...steve @warmth.org > 28. > 29. > 30. > May: > 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM > -OR- > MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* > 12. > 13. > 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com > Yeah Baby!! > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, > Cheapcholo@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com > 29. > 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com > > 31. > June: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com > 30. > === message truncated === === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 11:32:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7676 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 11:32:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 7650 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 11:32:26 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 11:32:26 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca3-32.ix.netcom.com [209.109.233.32]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07890; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37132B08.C95E88AC@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:31:20 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Some constants in life... References: <923942155.24331.284@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know this leslie, but I look good. That's the difference. And my fur pants costs $90 and 8 hours on the sewing machine. I can call myself a cand*e kid because I put in daaaays of effort into making one outfit. I feel annoyed when some kid with a pacifier and some nasty vic vapo rubb masks starts calling himself/herself a candy kid just because they have a t shirt that said plur on it and are wearing some crappy ass beads with no color patterns at all. It's purely a fashion problem, as I see it. And i know about being fucked up at 2nd & Jackson. :) I just get annoyed when I see trendy little high school kids at parties, and don't see ANYONE that I know from back in the day. I may not be some old skool grumpy drunk raver (like Andy W), but I still know what's up and most of those kids could not spell MDMA if you asked them to. I still don't think I got my point accross, but the only reason parties suck now is because all the people that are fun to party with. Stopped partying and all you get are these booring and unimaginative kids from high school that have been going to parties for 3 months that will most likely OD on GHB by the end of the year. Thank you =Paul*E*Wog leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > here are some things that seem to never change... > > 1. Paul-E-Wog ... always the same little loudmouthed shit-stirrer... only > the funniest part, to me anyway, Paul, is that now you're bitching about > little candy kid ravers who you think have no originality... hey, they're > just following the trends you helped to set (and are still pursuing) ... i > know it feels like now *you're* the old-skool raver, and they're the > wanna-be's... but you're fooling yourself, Paul. what's really happening is > that you're looking at *yourself* when you see these kids. believe me, > they're going through exactly what you have (even to the details of being > f*ks up at 2nd & Jackson). let them have their experience, and move forward > with your efforts to become the grownup we really trust is inside just > waiting to bust out... i have all the faith in the world you can do it!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 11:37:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9004 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 11:37:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 8990 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 11:37:30 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 11:37:30 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vJWVa21395; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:36:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:36:52 EDT Subject: (NRR) Re: AllThoseOn AOL! SomeoneScamingForYourPassword To: BodhiInSF@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, if you are an AOL (l)user, and this happens to you, chances are that the screen name that just sent you the IM or the e-mail, is someone who has had their PW stolen. You see, you are reporting a SN that is not responsible for that action because, most likely, someone has gotten a hold of the password to that screen name and is now using the account to steal more. Hacker's aren't dumb enough to use their own accounts. You will be getting someone's account terminated that was only a victim like you. In a message dated 4/13/99 12:52:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, BodhiInSF@aol.com writes: << I just recieved a Intant mail form PW Rep 307 saying that because of a billing mistake, he needs my password. Now, I know this is an obvoious scam. It right there in bold letters below the IM screen, "AOL will never ask you for your password or billing information." But... there are those who will fall for this. Am im sure this person is out there scamming many others. So, if you get this IM from this person or anyone like this, please notify AOL. Thanks! Peace, love and {[hugs!}} ---Bodhi >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 11:38:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9746 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 11:38:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9738 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 11:38:45 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 11:38:45 -0000 Received: from Derderf3@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3XTUa23591 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:37:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Derderf3@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:37:54 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Derderf3@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i Second that one... for those that do not know me yet, I am Smil-E... hopefully some at tickle3 saw me.. i was the candie raver dressed in all smilie faces with those foolish ballons hanging above me! I just would like to say, thax Princess and Valerie... and as always DJ D. The party people you know can make any place a DOPE party!!! Smil-E... ----------------- Forwarded Message: Subj: Re: TiCkLe! Date: 4/12/99 8:06:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: dawolf@hotbot.com (da'Wolf) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Right on Aaron, That story is exactly what raves are all about...you cant worry if everyone is having fun, just tap the person next to you and make sure he/she is smiling and I'll bet the rest of the night they are happy... Peace da'Wolf -- On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:22:30 OoNOTlKo0 wrote: >i have to agree there. tickle was a good frickin party. i was totally hyped >up for demigod and i kinda felt let down in a sense. i always do this, i get >all expectant and then i overestimate the experince before im even there. i >think i was more thinking i would be able to actually HEAR the hardcore but >it came out kinda mushy and noisy fer me (happy hardcore better be different! > :P other than that im glad i could just walk into the next room and enjoy >some more trance. although i did miss dj d (AGAIN DAMNIT!) i still had a >blast. > so when i was sitting down this guy named charly came up and started >talking to me and i HAVE to spread his story!... > >"once there was a beach. on the beach were tens of thousands of starfish >that were washed up and dying on the sand. this man walked up and picked up >a starfish and trhew it in the ocean, then he stooped down and picked up >another one and threw it in the ocean. he was doing this for a little while >when another man came up and said, "what do u think ur accomplishing?! ull >never make any difference justthrowing one in at a time hell ur not gonna >make any difference whatsoever so give it up!" the man turned around and >said "oh yeah?" picked up a starfish and threw it into the ocean "i made a >difference for that one."" > >that story changed me so much hope it did thah same fer some of u. > >-aaron > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-za04.mx.aol.com (rly-za04.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.100]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:06:39 -0400 Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by rly-za04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id LAA18877 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 24182 invoked by uid 6000); 12 Apr 1999 15:06:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24168 invoked from network); 12 Apr 1999 15:06:18 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 15:06:18 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Mon Apr 12 08:05:42 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:05:42 -0800 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: TiCkLe! X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.172 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 11:50:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15963 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 11:50:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 15948 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 11:50:14 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 11:50:14 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca3-32.ix.netcom.com [209.109.233.32]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA17870; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37132F35.4A42220F@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:49:09 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ravergrl27@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Can someone help? References: <61700840.244419f6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think it's eight, but you can get away with posting 8 before midnight and then 8 more right after, so then it seems like you posted 16 times. But actually you wont be able to post again until the next day. Although, they might have changed this. =Paul*E*Wog Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > > Hello, > > I was just wondering if someone can help me find out how many posts a person > can have in one day.. There are a few on the list that post nonstop. I mean I > dont mind so much but there is one girl one here that Just posts to > everything and I think she can make at least some of them private. Especaily > when she is just directing it to that person only..I guess she needs all the > attention she can get, but please..... Someone help me out here with this > question? Thanks =) > Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 11:50:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16441 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 11:50:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 16347 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 11:50:24 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 11:50:24 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca3-32.ix.netcom.com [209.109.233.32]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA17947; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37132F3D.B155CCB0@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:49:18 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ravergrl27@aol.com CC: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, Ezzm@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Refunds for tickle~> The T-room References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's right!!! Yo go miss Jeannie, you hardcore freak!!!! Yeah!!! I hate 2nd & Jackson!!! Woo-hoo!!!! =Paul*E*Wog P.S. Teknodiva gives good head. Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > > Exactly miss diva.... The promoters will learn!!!! At least I hope so! I > fiind it to be in bad taste to reject those who spent gas money, ticket > money, others valuable time and getting to a party place and having someone > say SORRY BUT YOU CANT COME IN!! It's total Bullshit.. and a complete lack of > respect!!! > PLURESPECT, > Jeannie > > In a message dated 4/12/99 3:06:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: > > << Who wants to buy a presale if you > aren't guaranteed a spot in a party? >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 12:06:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22859 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 12:06:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22848 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 12:05:59 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?XX0AWJ30yk4dIlPtpNWzL4C9Fir0xVCT?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 12:05:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id FAA13217; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:05:33 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:05:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Paul*E*Wog cc: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Some constants in life... In-Reply-To: <37132B08.C95E88AC@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: > I know this leslie, but I look good. That's the difference. And my fur > pants costs $90 and 8 hours on the sewing machine. I can call myself a > cand*e kid because I put in daaaays of effort into making one outfit. Hmmmm. So back in the day, unless you had a crazy hat and huge bell bottoms, and patches all over everything and hair at least 2 inches past your shoulder blades you couldn't be a hippy? > I feel annoyed when some kid with a pacifier and some nasty vic vapo > rubb masks starts calling himself/herself a candy kid just because they > have a t shirt that said plur on it and are wearing some crappy ass > beads with no color patterns at all. I remember now why I thought you were so funny, Paul. You are like the most high-horse-riding dude I've ever seen post on here. I don't know about PLUR and all that shit, but one thing I do think is important and true: THOSE WHO FEEL IT, KNOW IT. THOSE WHO KNOW IT, FEEL IT. > I just get annoyed when I see trendy little high school kids at parties, > and don't see ANYONE that I know from back in the day. I may not be some > old skool grumpy drunk raver (like Andy W), but I still know what's up > and most of those kids could not spell MDMA if you asked them to. The people from back in the day got tired of the race to see who can have the coolest pants, and started going back into basement parties where there was only house all night long. Or they got into drum&bass because there is a lot of 18+ and 21+ stuff going on with no "trendy high school kids" piled up with their eyes slammed, and no MDMA spelling bees, and not muh MDMA period. They found something new, where people weren't expected to dress a certain way, or think a certain, way, just expected to dance and have a good time. > I still don't think I got my point accross, but the only reason parties > suck now is because all the people that are fun to party with. Stopped > partying and all you get are these booring and unimaginative kids from > high school that have been going to parties for 3 months that will most > likely OD on GHB by the end of the year. I firmly believe that there are people who were ravers before they ever went to a party, and I also believe that people can BECOME raver the first night they ever go to one. It's not how much money and time you spent to look like you belonged, it's if the music and freedom and optimism and cameraderie made sense, and you took them home with you that night. To me...it's whether the liberty, fraternity and equality that make the rave ethic work rubbed off, and you started putting some of your own singular energy back in, the next time you went out partying. But it's good to have you back, Paul, there have been a lack of outspoken ponces on sfraves lately. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 12:12:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25852 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 12:12:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25841 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 12:12:29 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 12:12:29 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca3-32.ix.netcom.com [209.109.233.32]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA14843; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37133464.83BD879F@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:11:16 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max McCauley CC: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Some constants in life... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank you, Max... what does being a raver have anything to do with being a cand*e kid? Two different things... I don't think anyone who wants to party needs to prove themselves, but its annoying to see people who can't tell the difference between trance and break beats run a muck all over the scene. Everyone is welcome at a party, but if one doesn't know anything about a certain sub-culture, they should be humble until they realize what is going on. =Paul*E*Wog Max McCauley wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > > I know this leslie, but I look good. That's the difference. And my fur > > pants costs $90 and 8 hours on the sewing machine. I can call myself a > > cand*e kid because I put in daaaays of effort into making one outfit. > > Hmmmm. So back in the day, unless you had a crazy hat and huge bell > bottoms, and patches all over everything and hair at least 2 inches past > your shoulder blades you couldn't be a hippy? > > > I feel annoyed when some kid with a pacifier and some nasty vic vapo > > rubb masks starts calling himself/herself a candy kid just because they > > have a t shirt that said plur on it and are wearing some crappy ass > > beads with no color patterns at all. > > I remember now why I thought you were so funny, Paul. You are like the > most high-horse-riding dude I've ever seen post on here. I don't know > about PLUR and all that shit, but one thing I do think is important and > true: > > THOSE WHO FEEL IT, KNOW IT. > THOSE WHO KNOW IT, FEEL IT. > > > I just get annoyed when I see trendy little high school kids at parties, > > and don't see ANYONE that I know from back in the day. I may not be some > > old skool grumpy drunk raver (like Andy W), but I still know what's up > > and most of those kids could not spell MDMA if you asked them to. > > The people from back in the day got tired of the race to see who can have > the coolest pants, and started going back into basement parties where > there was only house all night long. Or they got into drum&bass because > there is a lot of 18+ and 21+ stuff going on with no "trendy high school > kids" piled up with their eyes slammed, and no MDMA spelling bees, and not > muh MDMA period. They found something new, where people weren't expected > to dress a certain way, or think a certain, way, just expected to dance > and have a good time. > > > I still don't think I got my point accross, but the only reason parties > > suck now is because all the people that are fun to party with. Stopped > > partying and all you get are these booring and unimaginative kids from > > high school that have been going to parties for 3 months that will most > > likely OD on GHB by the end of the year. > > I firmly believe that there are people who were ravers before they ever > went to a party, and I also believe that people can BECOME raver the first > night they ever go to one. It's not how much money and time you spent to > look like you belonged, it's if the music and freedom and optimism and > cameraderie made sense, and you took them home with you that night. > To me...it's whether the liberty, fraternity and equality that make the > rave ethic work rubbed off, and you started putting some of your own > singular energy back in, the next time you went out partying. > > But it's good to have you back, Paul, there have been a lack of outspoken > ponces on sfraves lately. > > 10-4, > duh, > max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 12:26:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29399 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 12:26:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 29385 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 12:26:25 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 12:26:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA07892 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:26:24 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: wonder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Stupid 'Wonder 11*14*97' picture while we walk down the alleys of location memory lane: http://www.saturn5.com/andy/andy2.jpg That picture always reminds me of how hot it was in there. Macadio whooped it up in the tracky techno techno department that night... nice set. Huge sound. Puny space. Looped crowd. Good party. andyw On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Max McCauley wrote: -&e-> -&e-> -&e->On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: -&e-> -&e->> I know this leslie, but I look good. That's the difference. And my fur -&e->> pants costs $90 and 8 hours on the sewing machine. I can call myself a -&e->> cand*e kid because I put in daaaays of effort into making one outfit. -&e-> -&e->Hmmmm. So back in the day, unless you had a crazy hat and huge bell -&e->bottoms, and patches all over everything and hair at least 2 inches past -&e->your shoulder blades you couldn't be a hippy? -&e-> -&e->> I feel annoyed when some kid with a pacifier and some nasty vic vapo -&e->> rubb masks starts calling himself/herself a candy kid just because they -&e->> have a t shirt that said plur on it and are wearing some crappy ass -&e->> beads with no color patterns at all. -&e-> -&e->I remember now why I thought you were so funny, Paul. You are like the -&e->most high-horse-riding dude I've ever seen post on here. I don't know -&e->about PLUR and all that shit, but one thing I do think is important and -&e->true: -&e-> -&e->THOSE WHO FEEL IT, KNOW IT. -&e->THOSE WHO KNOW IT, FEEL IT. -&e-> -&e-> -&e->> I just get annoyed when I see trendy little high school kids at parties, -&e->> and don't see ANYONE that I know from back in the day. I may not be some -&e->> old skool grumpy drunk raver (like Andy W), but I still know what's up -&e->> and most of those kids could not spell MDMA if you asked them to. -&e-> -&e->The people from back in the day got tired of the race to see who can have -&e->the coolest pants, and started going back into basement parties where -&e->there was only house all night long. Or they got into drum&bass because -&e->there is a lot of 18+ and 21+ stuff going on with no "trendy high school -&e->kids" piled up with their eyes slammed, and no MDMA spelling bees, and not -&e->muh MDMA period. They found something new, where people weren't expected -&e->to dress a certain way, or think a certain, way, just expected to dance -&e->and have a good time. -&e-> -&e->> I still don't think I got my point accross, but the only reason parties -&e->> suck now is because all the people that are fun to party with. Stopped -&e->> partying and all you get are these booring and unimaginative kids from -&e->> high school that have been going to parties for 3 months that will most -&e->> likely OD on GHB by the end of the year. -&e-> -&e-> -&e->I firmly believe that there are people who were ravers before they ever -&e->went to a party, and I also believe that people can BECOME raver the first -&e->night they ever go to one. It's not how much money and time you spent to -&e->look like you belonged, it's if the music and freedom and optimism and -&e->cameraderie made sense, and you took them home with you that night. -&e->To me...it's whether the liberty, fraternity and equality that make the -&e->rave ethic work rubbed off, and you started putting some of your own -&e->singular energy back in, the next time you went out partying. -&e-> -&e->But it's good to have you back, Paul, there have been a lack of outspoken -&e->ponces on sfraves lately. -&e-> -&e->10-4, -&e->duh, -&e->max -&e-> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 12:47:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4949 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 12:47:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 4937 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 12:47:50 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 12:47:50 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.134] (ghana-134.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.134]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00458; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:46:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:05:58 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Fairness? Decency? How can you expect fairness or decency on a planet of sleeping people? G.I. Gurdjieff ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 12:48:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5631 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 12:48:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 5606 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 12:48:39 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 12:48:39 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.134] (ghana-134.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.134]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00817; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:48:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:08:42 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Tue) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Run, puppy, run! Run, puppy, run! Yonder comes the big dog --- Run, puppy, run! Children's rhyme ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 12:50:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6750 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 12:50:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6739 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 12:50:24 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 12:50:24 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.45) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:54:01 -0800 Message-ID: <37133D8E.E03B458F@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 05:50:22 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: (NRR) Re: AllThoseOn AOL! SomeoneScamingForYourPassword References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, if you don't respond, then that allows the person with the stolen account to continue to try and steal passwords. if you do respond, then the account will be shut down, and aol/the original acount owner can work out the problem and change everything for the better. paul Space201@aol.com wrote: > Actually, if you are an AOL (l)user, and this happens to you, chances are > that the screen name that just sent you the IM or the e-mail, is someone who > has had their PW stolen. You see, you are reporting a SN that is not > responsible for that action because, most likely, someone has gotten a hold > of the password to that screen name and is now using the account to steal > more. Hacker's aren't dumb enough to use their own accounts. You will be > getting someone's account terminated that was only a victim like you. > > In a message dated 4/13/99 12:52:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, > BodhiInSF@aol.com writes: > > << I just recieved a Intant mail form PW Rep 307 saying that because of a > billing mistake, he needs my password. Now, I know this is an obvoious scam. > It right there in bold letters below the IM screen, "AOL will never ask you > for your password or billing information." But... there are those who will > fall for this. Am im sure this person is out there scamming many others. So, > if you get this IM from this person or anyone like this, please notify AOL. > Thanks! Peace, love and {[hugs!}} ---Bodhi > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 13:15:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11717 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 13:15:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 11703 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 13:15:01 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?XwTYYcUy6Ktz+XgGfiO2eZxxD1Pgy+LD?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 13:15:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id GAA20690; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:14:58 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Paul*E*Wog cc: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Some constants in life... In-Reply-To: <37133464.83BD879F@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: > Thank you, Max... what does being a raver have anything to do with being > a cand*e kid? Two different things... All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares, that's fair. But, that being said, maybe a lot of the people you used to think were cool and liked to party got sick of people who were so dedicated to their cand-e or their junglist schtick or their stinky goa (jk!) that they forgot that the point was to RAVE RAVE RAVE in the first place, and got into something else that was a little more accepting. > I don't think anyone who wants to party needs to prove themselves, but > its annoying to see people who can't tell the difference between trance > and break beats run a muck all over the scene. Everyone is welcome at a > party, but if one doesn't know anything about a certain sub-culture, > they should be humble until they realize what is going on. Well, I think a lot of us, Jamalski and I in particular, have a different angle on this. As MC's, it's sort of our purpose to explain what's going on to people who might not know what a dubplate is and shit. When I first got into this stuff, I was a blank page, and I sat in channel 44 on vrave and asked people questions, and asked for URL's so that I could learn some history, and asked more questions, and eventually found people and websites that would have the patience to teach me something. I owe them all so much. And now, since I've gotten to know a bit about this and that, I feel obligated to share what I know. I remember a dude posting to sfraves about two months ago, saying that he had bought some Prodigy and some Roni Size, and this and that and wanted to know which was which type of music. I wrote back and tried to explain, and ended up teaching him what a breakbeat was. It was nice. It made me feel good, because I remembered going through song after song with channel 44 on vrave like "OK, this is techstep because it sounds like angry robots marching over the horizon?" I personally would rather be in a party where no one knew the difference between trance and breakbeat and were enthusiastic and energetic and positve than a party witha bunch of snotty people who knew everything and didn't like the wide-eyed BROCKOUTITUDE of the newbies. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 14:22:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 999 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 14:22:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 986 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 14:22:15 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 14:22:15 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id uGAEa07519; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:21:07 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:21:07 EDT Subject: Re: Stolen items at parties To: Aryck46@aol.com, whtrabt@ix.netcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk One great thing about huge raver pants is that with tall people like me most thiefs probably couldnt reach the bottom of my back pockets hehe matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 15:09:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16109 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 15:09:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 16101 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 15:09:42 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?SCWeR+WzIIIo+HGjKMS4vpkAsqmxQ/un?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 15:09:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id IAA05046; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:09:41 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:09:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley Reply-To: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, breaks@xmission.com Subject: BSP: Phuncktion tonight Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk get your panties in a bunch n come on down to Phuncktion. who: DJ Lee (Metalheadz, Timeless Recordings, UK) and residents Noel and Juju (Phunckateck, SF) with halfpint honkey MC Duh in the hotseat. when: tonight, Tuesday 13 April from 10p-2a where: the Top, 424 Haight St, San Francisco how: 21+, 5$ all night what: the fuck, did I stutter? next week: E-Sassin (Soundsphere/Phunckateck, LA) contact: 415.789.8000x1147 http://www.sfdb.com 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 15:10:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17103 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 15:10:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 16770 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 15:10:01 -0000 Received: from fes-qout.whowhere.com (HELO mailcity.com) (209.1.236.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 15:10:01 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue Apr 13 08:09:27 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Aryck46@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:09:27 -0800 From: "Pantera King" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: My little opinion on TICKLE and newbies. . . X-Sender-Ip: 209.185.110.113 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -- On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:53:38 Aryck46 wrote: > Now let me get this schtuff straight first. I'm no newbie to the >scene, being on and off this list for like 4-5 years and raving for the past >5 years, I'm sure I somewhat have more authority than some of you people >who've just been here for like a year or whatever and are now talking trash >about people new to the scene. wow. Be careful who you kiss. There is a hep c epidemic in this scene that seems to be going around. > >LuvYA > >Aryck > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 15:35:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26312 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 15:35:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 26303 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 15:35:30 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 15:35:30 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14430; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2M04S0J5>; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:31:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'BodhiInSF@aol.com'" Cc: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: (NRR) AllThoseOn AOL! SomeoneScamingForYourPassword Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:31:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank you for that message. I got one like it the other day, an Email from another AOL user saying my credit card account was messed up and I had to give them my credit card number, full name, address, password, etc. I actually fell for it but the information didn't go through because it gave me an error "URL not found"!! so I called AOL And they told me that it was a scam. I was SUPER scared about that though...and STUPID for falling for it!! Just a warning for you guys to watch out for that! 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July: 1. 2. 3. 4. <<<> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 15:52:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3719 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 15:52:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 3701 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 15:52:55 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 15:52:55 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16025; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2M04S0KW>; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'RobinT'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk January: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* ******JeSsiCa AnD jR foR LiFe****** 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com 29. 30. 31. February: 1. 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net 3. 4. 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. March: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. April: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send presents)lol 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER *i <3 U* 27. 28. 29. 30. May: 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* 12. 13. 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com 29. 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com 31. June: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com 30. July: 1. 2. 3. 4. <<<> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:00:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7698 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:00:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 7686 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:00:09 -0000 Received: from c004-h005.c004.sfo.cp.net (HELO c004.sfo.cp.net) (209.228.14.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:00:09 -0000 Received: (cpmta 28614 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 09:00:08 -0700 Received: from dynamic23.pm03.san-rafael.best.com (HELO antonio) (206.184.127.151) by smtp.fslc.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 09:00:08 -0700 X-Sent: 13 Apr 1999 16:00:08 GMT Message-ID: <00aa01be85c6$907a3720$977fb8ce@antonio> From: "Information" To: Subject: BSP: Deep Inside Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:59:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BE858B.E3644420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BE858B.E3644420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [BSP: Deep Inside] Hey you guys, I wanted to give you guys a heads up about a new party that's kicking = off Wednesday, April 14th (tomorrow). The party's called "Deep Inside." = This weekly isn't your standard big name promoter fare, just a couple of = old school DJs Josh & Taj (w/ weekly guests) throwing a solid weekly in = the basement of 1015 Folsom every Wednesday night (except Come-Unity's = 1st Wednesday). =20 Some of you may remember a party called Zendada that used to happen in = the basement of 1015 Folsom back in 1994-1996. A solid no nonsense = tribal house affair where, depending on the week, you could catch = anybody from Jeno to a young John Howard taking you on a 2-3 hour = odyssey. A lot of the people involved with Deep Inside were responsible = for Zendada and the aim here is to create something along those same = lines. A place where you can stake out some real estate next to a = speaker and do your thing without any other intrusions.=20 I invite you to come down and help us to make this party something = special. Everybody involved from the DJs to the crew is donating their = time. Your admission pays for the space, but if it is a problem for you, = please don't be embarrassed to mention it at the door. =20 Thanks For Your Time. - Molly DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh = (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every = Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts = 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom = , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544=20 [4.14 - John Howard]=20 [4.21 - Solar ]=20 [4.28 - Rob Doten]=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BE858B.E3644420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
[BSP: Deep Inside]
 
Hey you guys,
 
I wanted to give you guys a heads up about a new = party that's=20 kicking off Wednesday, April 14th (tomorrow).  The party's called=20 "Deep Inside." This weekly isn't your standard big name = promoter fare,=20 just a couple of old school DJs Josh & Taj (w/ weekly guests) = throwing a=20 solid weekly in the basement of 1015 Folsom every Wednesday night = (except=20 Come-Unity's 1st Wednesday). 
 
Some of you may remember a party called Zendada that = used to=20 happen in the basement of 1015 Folsom back in 1994-1996.  A solid = no=20 nonsense tribal house affair where, depending on the week, you could = catch=20 anybody from Jeno to a young John Howard taking you on a 2-3 hour = odyssey. A lot=20 of the people involved with Deep Inside were responsible for Zendada and = the aim=20 here is to create something along those same lines.  A place where = you can=20 stake out some real estate next to a speaker and do your thing without = any other=20 intrusions.
 
I invite you to come down and help us to make this = party=20 something special.  Everybody involved from the DJs to the crew is = donating=20 their time. Your admission pays for the space, but if it is a problem = for you,=20 please don't be embarrassed to mention it at the door.  =
 
Thanks For Your Time.
- = Molly
 
 
 ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BE858B.E3644420-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:13:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14767 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:13:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 14609 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:13:49 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:13:49 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Tue Apr 13 09:13:13 1999 To: "'RobinT'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org, "Naomi Thompson" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:13:13 -0800 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.178 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -- On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 Naomi Thompson wrote: > > January: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* >******JeSsiCa AnD jR > foR > LiFe****** > 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com > 29. > 30. > 31. > February: > 1. > 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net > 3. > 4. > 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > March: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > April: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send >presents)lol > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. >LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER > *i <3 > U* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > May: > 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- > MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* > 12. > 13. > 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, >Cheapcholo@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com > 29. > 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com > 31. > June: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com > 30. > July: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. <<< 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. CaSaNdRa MISTEASER@AOL.COM > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. kurt-dawolf@hotbot.com, megan~babyG91466@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. *Kelly ~ Tootsie500@aol.com* > 24. > 25. > 26. *Katie- HowieLuva1@aol.com* *mike >johnson~ > herbyhynde@aol.com* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > August: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. ~~~Samantha~~~ Samm1687@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. ~~Shannon~~Shanson446@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > September: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21.Geeta-Shelex1963@aol.com > 22. > 23. > 24. GrLstLkLy2@aol.com<~~~ Girl least likely 2 > 25. LuV3AbLeZz@aol.com *YaY* > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > October: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<---@ sEe >Ya ArOuND > =0) > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. Matthew Ferrell Kraze21@aol.com > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > November: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22.Lady Odyssey... LdOdyssey@aol.com > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. Erin* Lucky66343@aol.com > 28. > 29. > 30. > December: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. *marge~ crazy8dazy@aol.com* > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. >Jessica~AlfLuvR15@aol.com~Alf8mycat@yahoo.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. Jamie Welty ~Welt2002@aol.com Nicole >Welty > ~Nicol2402@aol.com > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. ODIE ~ ODIEMAD@AOL.COM > 29. > 30. > 31. > Please fill it out! >> >> > > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:14:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15215 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:14:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 14855 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:13:59 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:13:59 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Tue Apr 13 09:13:23 1999 To: "'RobinT'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org, "Naomi Thompson" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:13:23 -0800 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.178 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -- On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 Naomi Thompson wrote: > > January: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* >******JeSsiCa AnD jR > foR > LiFe****** > 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com > 29. > 30. > 31. > February: > 1. > 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net > 3. > 4. > 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > March: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > April: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send >presents)lol > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. >LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER > *i <3 > U* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > May: > 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- > MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* > 12. > 13. > 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, >Cheapcholo@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com > 29. > 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com > 31. > June: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com > 30. > July: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. <<< 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. CaSaNdRa MISTEASER@AOL.COM > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. kurt-dawolf@hotbot.com, megan~babyG91466@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. *Kelly ~ Tootsie500@aol.com* > 24. > 25. > 26. *Katie- HowieLuva1@aol.com* *mike >johnson~ > herbyhynde@aol.com* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > August: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. ~~~Samantha~~~ Samm1687@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. ~~Shannon~~Shanson446@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > September: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21.Geeta-Shelex1963@aol.com > 22. > 23. > 24. GrLstLkLy2@aol.com<~~~ Girl least likely 2 > 25. LuV3AbLeZz@aol.com *YaY* > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > October: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<---@ sEe >Ya ArOuND > =0) > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. Matthew Ferrell Kraze21@aol.com > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > November: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22.Lady Odyssey... LdOdyssey@aol.com > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. Erin* Lucky66343@aol.com > 28. > 29. > 30. > December: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. *marge~ crazy8dazy@aol.com* > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. >Jessica~AlfLuvR15@aol.com~Alf8mycat@yahoo.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. Jamie Welty ~Welt2002@aol.com Nicole >Welty > ~Nicol2402@aol.com > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. ODIE ~ ODIEMAD@AOL.COM > 29. > 30. > 31. > Please fill it out! >> >> > > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:14:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15804 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:14:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 15541 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:14:22 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:14:22 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Tue Apr 13 09:13:44 1999 To: "'RobinT'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org, "Naomi Thompson" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:13:44 -0800 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.178 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -- On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 Naomi Thompson wrote: > > January: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* >******JeSsiCa AnD jR > foR > LiFe****** > 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com > 29. > 30. > 31. > February: > 1. > 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net > 3. > 4. > 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > March: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > April: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send >presents)lol > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. >LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER > *i <3 > U* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > May: > 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- > MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* > 12. > 13. > 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, >Cheapcholo@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com > 29. > 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com > 31. > June: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com > 30. > July: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. <<< 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. CaSaNdRa MISTEASER@AOL.COM > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. kurt-dawolf@hotbot.com, megan~babyG91466@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. *Kelly ~ Tootsie500@aol.com* > 24. > 25. > 26. *Katie- HowieLuva1@aol.com* *mike >johnson~ > herbyhynde@aol.com* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > August: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. ~~~Samantha~~~ Samm1687@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. ~~Shannon~~Shanson446@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > September: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21.Geeta-Shelex1963@aol.com > 22. > 23. > 24. GrLstLkLy2@aol.com<~~~ Girl least likely 2 > 25. LuV3AbLeZz@aol.com *YaY* > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > October: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<---@ sEe >Ya ArOuND > =0) > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. Matthew Ferrell Kraze21@aol.com > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > November: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22.Lady Odyssey... LdOdyssey@aol.com > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. Erin* Lucky66343@aol.com > 28. > 29. > 30. > December: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. *marge~ crazy8dazy@aol.com* > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. >Jessica~AlfLuvR15@aol.com~Alf8mycat@yahoo.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. Jamie Welty ~Welt2002@aol.com Nicole >Welty > ~Nicol2402@aol.com > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. ODIE ~ ODIEMAD@AOL.COM > 29. > 30. > 31. > Please fill it out! >> >> > > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:16:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19875 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:16:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 19565 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:16:14 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:16:14 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Tue Apr 13 09:15:41 1999 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" , "RobinT" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:15:41 -0800 From: "da'Wolf" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: RE:HApPY BdaY X-Sender-Ip: 206.40.43.178 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -- On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:16 RobinT wrote: >January: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* ******JeSsiCa AnD jR >foR >LiFe****** > 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com > 29. > 30. > 31. > February: > 1. > 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net > 3. > 4. > 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > March: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > April: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send presents)lol > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER >*i <3 >U* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > May: > 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- >MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* > 12. > 13. > 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com > 29. > 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com > 31. > June: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com > 30. > July: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. <<< 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. CaSaNdRa MISTEASER@AOL.COM > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. megan~babyG91466@aol.com, kurt...dawolf@hotbot.com > 21. > 22. > 23. *Kelly ~ Tootsie500@aol.com* > 24. > 25. > 26. *Katie- HowieLuva1@aol.com* *mike johnson~ >herbyhynde@aol.com* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > August: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. ~~~Samantha~~~ Samm1687@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. ~~Shannon~~Shanson446@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > September: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21.Geeta-Shelex1963@aol.com > 22. > 23. > 24. GrLstLkLy2@aol.com<~~~ Girl least likely 2 > 25. LuV3AbLeZz@aol.com *YaY* > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > October: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<---@ sEe Ya ArOuND >=0) > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. Matthew Ferrell Kraze21@aol.com > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > November: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22.Lady Odyssey... LdOdyssey@aol.com > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. Erin* Lucky66343@aol.com > 28. > 29. > 30. > December: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. *marge~ crazy8dazy@aol.com* > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Jessica~AlfLuvR15@aol.com~Alf8mycat@yahoo.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. Jamie Welty ~Welt2002@aol.com Nicole Welty >~Nicol2402@aol.com > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. ODIE ~ ODIEMAD@AOL.COM > 29. > 30. > 31. > Please fill it out! >> >> > > > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:20:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24819 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:20:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24266 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:20:07 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:20:07 -0000 Received: from Taiida@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id wCBHa22983; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:06:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Taiida@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:06:57 EDT Subject: Re: HApPY BdaY To: robint@cruinc.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: Taiida@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/13/99 8:51:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, robint@cruinc.com writes: << January: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* ******JeSsiCa AnD jR foR LiFe****** 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com 29. 30. 31. February: 1. 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net 3. 4. 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. March: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. April: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send presents)lol 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER *i <3 U* 27. 28. 29. 30. May: 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* 12. 13. 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com 29. 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com 31. June: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com 30. July: 1. 2. 3. 4. <<<> >> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:23:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27723 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:23:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 27715 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:23:44 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:23:44 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA17436; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA29800; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:14:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: swati shah cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990412183522.006af95c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm sorry to sound a little mean about this, but if you think that poeple on this list and who go to parties need some sort of help to party sober by asking everyone to "try" going to a party sober or filling out a survey or sharing their expiriences, then either you've missed the HUGE crowd of us that actually DON't to drugs or have stopped, or we really have a huge problem in our scene that i'm just not aware about (and i hope this isn't the case.) most of my friends, including myself, have done our expirimenting in the past, and i'm not going to get down on anyone for that, that is just a normal part of growing up. but taking expirimentation too far to reach addiction is one other thing. maybe i'm lucky to have a group of friends who have decided that drugs are boring when over done (just like i have.) maybe the amount of druged up kids, e-ing balls and rolling on the floor mask all of us "sober" ravers. i put that word in quotes because it is all relative. honestly, i don't NEED drugs to feel high. i've learned to do that just fine on my own. i still feel high as fuck when i'm at a party! but maybe that's off the music, my excitement, the energy of everyone around me. everyone is going to go through their phase of trying drugs and expiramenting, especially when they first start partying, and even after that poeple will still do stuff occasionally (this is what i've noticed among MANY poeple i've talked to, i'm not just trying to make a generalization of everyone in the scene because of course there are exceptions.) i guess if you're ready to party sober, then go for it! there are many of us out there that do, but if you still like getting high, then just be careful, and remember that when you come down, there are going to be real life responibilities you will have to face, like school or work, so just enjoy your free time wisely. much love, amber On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, swati shah wrote: > > Alright, this is it. This is your last chance to help me with Project > Bliss. Just to remind you, this is my project to encourage kids to go to a > party sober. I feel that every raver should be able to go to a party sober. > And in my definition, marijuana doesn't count. I'm not saying that everyone > should be sober all the time, but give yourself the choice to take > something or not. No one should miss a party because they don't want to be > sober. Its almost a skill, to focus on the music and the vibe rather than > on just getting as fucked up as possible. but the music is there, and the > people are there, to get you as high or higher than anything, if only you > allow it. > > So, this is how you can help me. > > 1) If you've never been to a party sober, try it once. Lose yourself to > the music. And then, email me the next day with your experience. > > 2) If you have been going to parties sober, write me an email about your > first sober party, or any experiences you have that you want to share. > Write to me about your thoughts on the connections between raves and drugs, > and how you see the relationship evolving through your experiences. > > 3) Everyone, fill out my survey that is attached at the end of this email > and send it back to me. Its just about how often you rave, and how often > you use certain drugs. Feel free to share any stories you have with me, I > love them all. > > Of course, everything will be kept confidential. I understand the fragility > of some of the issues discussed, and only I will know who responded how. > Security is not a problem. Thanks to all who have already responded to me, > and to all of you who will, I hope. > > Love, > Swati > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:27:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29911 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:27:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 29894 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:27:12 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:27:12 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-165.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.165]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA15050 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990413150001.006e4994@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:00:01 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 08:13 AM 4/13/99 -0800, you wrote: > >-- > >On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 Naomi Thompson wrote: >> >> January: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* >>******JeSsiCa AnD jR >> foR >> LiFe****** >> 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> February: >> 1. >> 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> March: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> April: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send >>presents)lol >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >>LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER >> *i <3 >> U* >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> May: >> 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8.BIG BABY JESUS!! I'd like to give a shout out to my homies nefarious mellie mel, 420 krew, drkhop inc., and I would like to say where the f*uck is my money?! To my babie's daddy! >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- >> MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, >>Cheapcholo@aol.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com >> 29. >> 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com >> 31. >> June: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com >> 30. >> July: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. <<<> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. CaSaNdRa MISTEASER@AOL.COM >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. kurt-dawolf@hotbot.com, megan~babyG91466@aol.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. *Kelly ~ Tootsie500@aol.com* >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. *Katie- HowieLuva1@aol.com* *mike >>johnson~ >> herbyhynde@aol.com* >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> August: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. ~~~Samantha~~~ Samm1687@aol.com >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. ~~Shannon~~Shanson446@aol.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> September: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21.Geeta-Shelex1963@aol.com >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. GrLstLkLy2@aol.com<~~~ Girl least likely 2 >> 25. LuV3AbLeZz@aol.com *YaY* >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> October: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<---@ sEe >>Ya ArOuND >> =0) >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. Matthew Ferrell Kraze21@aol.com >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> November: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22.Lady Odyssey... LdOdyssey@aol.com >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. Erin* Lucky66343@aol.com >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> December: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. *marge~ crazy8dazy@aol.com* >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >>Jessica~AlfLuvR15@aol.com~Alf8mycat@yahoo.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. Jamie Welty ~Welt2002@aol.com Nicole >>Welty >> ~Nicol2402@aol.com >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. ODIE ~ ODIEMAD@AOL.COM >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> Please fill it out! >> >> >> >> > > >HotBot - Search smarter. >http://www.hotbot.com > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:41:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9845 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:41:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 9814 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:41:08 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:41:08 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id wEDHa21399; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:40:06 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:40:06 EDT Subject: RE:HApPY BdaY To: RobinT CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk January: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* ******JeSsiCa AnD jR foR LiFe****** 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com 29. 30. 31. February: 1. 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net 3. 4. 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. March: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. April: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send presents)lol 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER *i <3 U* 27. 28. 29. 30. May: 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* 12. 13. Heather, HppyXTC@aol.com 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com 29. 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com 31. June: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com 30. July: 1. 2. 3. 4. <<<> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:48:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13556 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:48:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 13538 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:48:10 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:48:10 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vIWIa18505 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:47:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:47:37 EDT Subject: re: happy b-day To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Candida29@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk January: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* ******JeSsiCa AnD jR foR LiFe****** 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com 29. 30. 31. February: 1. 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net 3. 4. 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29.<<<<----candy!!WOOHOO!!! (candida29@aol.com):) March: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. April: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send presents)lol 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER *i <3 U* 27. 28. 29. 30. May: 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* 12. 13. 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com 29. 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com 31. June: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com 30. July: 1. 2. 3. 4. <<<> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 16:50:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16446 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 16:50:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 16425 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 16:50:38 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?ArfKNBOy5aXKqvgfL2m2hAFiOa8PYhQ/?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:50:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id JAA23990; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:50:34 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:50:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Candida29@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: happy b-day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk man, there has just GOT to be a way for this fucking shit to not get sent to the whole list over and over. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:29:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7937 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:29:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 7895 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:29:25 -0000 Received: from f63.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.197) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:29:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 33188 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 17:30:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413173029.33183.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.9.227 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:30:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.9.227] From: "Natasha 426" To: neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Many Thanks :) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:30:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What the f*ck??!? -----Original Message----- From: Trance & Jungle Factory [SMTP:neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu] Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 8:53 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Many Thanks :) To all of you that attended Tickle 3: **Thank you so much for making this a great party!!!** It was awesome to see everybody so pumped and full of energy... the party had a wonderful vibe, and we've been getting nothing but positive support from all of you! Keep bringing all your smiling faces and positive vibes and we'll keep bringing you more great parties!! Our next event will be on May 22nd, our *2-year* anniversary! Until then, have fun and party responsibly! Yours, the Trance and Jungle Factory (Thomas & crew) Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:30:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9574 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:30:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 9495 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:30:27 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:30:27 -0000 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f191.hotmail.com [209.185.130.101]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA36947 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:30:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chocolate976@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 43930 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 17:29:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413172936.43928.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.113 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:29:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.113] From: "michael waldren" To: maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: happy b-day Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:29:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey max come on now. Let the poor kids have their fun.I mean wouldnt you want to be recognized on your b-day in such a big way. I dont mind hitting my delete key 20 timess in a ten minute span, because i know that someones day is that much brighter. lighten up and easy oon the swears huh.Peace. "your everyday junglist" Mikey PS i hope you have a wonderful B-day Robin, dont listen to those hecklers.LOL.And support your local jungle scene.HEHEHEHEHEHE. >From: Max McCauley >To: Candida29@aol.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: re: happy b-day >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:50:34 -0700 (PDT) > > >man, there has just GOT to be a way for this fucking shit to not get sent >to the whole list over and over. > >10-4, >duh, >max > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:30:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9601 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:30:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 9568 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:30:31 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:30:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413172409.16538.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.195] by attach1; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:24:09 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Re: RE:HApPY BdaY To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---da'Wolf wrote: > > > -- > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:16 RobinT wrote: > >January: > > 1. > > 2. > > 3. > > 4. > > 5. > > 6. > > 7. > > 8. > > 9. > > 10. > > 11. > > 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* ******JeSsiCa AnD jR > >foR > >LiFe****** > > 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com > > 14. > > 15. > > 16. > > 17. > > 18. > > 19. > > 20. > > 21. > > 22. > > 23. > > 24. > > 25. > > 26. > > 27. > > 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com > > 29. > > 30. > > 31. > > February: > > 1. > > 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net > > 3. > > 4. > > 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM > > 6. > > 7. > > 8. > > 9. > > 10. > > 11. > > 12. > > 13. > > 14. > > 15. > > 16. > > 17. > > 18. > > 19. > > 20. > > 21. > > 22. > > 23. > > 24. > > 25. > > 26. > > 27. > > 28. > > 29. > > March: > > 1. > > 2. > > 3. > > 4. > > 5. > > 6. > > 7. > > 8. > > 9. > > 10. > > 11. > > 12. > > 13. > > 14. > > 15. > > 16. > > 17. > > 18. > > 19. > > 20. > > 21. > > 22. > > 23. > > 24. > > 25. > > 26. > > 27. > > 28. > > 29. > > 30. > > 31. > > April: > > 1. > > 2. > > 3. > > 4. > > 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send presents)lol > > 6. > > 7. > > 8. > > 9. > > 10. > > 11. > > 12. > > 13. > > 14. > > 15. > > 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com > > 17. > > 18. > > 19. > > 20. > > 21. > > 22. > > 23. > > 24. > > 25. > > 26. LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER > >*i <3 > >U* > > 27. > > 28. > > 29. > > 30. > > May: > > 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net > > 2. > > 3. > > 4. > > 5. > > 6. > > 7. > > 8. > > 9. > > 10. > > 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- > >MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* > > 12. > > 13. > > 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! > > 15. > > 16. > > 17. > > 18. > > 19. > > 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com > > 21. > > 22. > > 23. > > 24. > > 25. > > 26. > > 27. > > 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com > > 29. > > 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com > > 31. Joaqman turns 30 yrs old cuaotemoc@hotbot.com > > June: > > 1. > > 2. > > 3. > > 4. > > 5. > > 6. > > 7. > > 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* > > 9. > > 10. > > 11. > > 12. > > 13. > > 14. > > 15. > > 16. > > 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com > > 18. > > 19. > > 20. > > 21. > > 22. > > 23. > > 24. > > 25. > > 26. > > 27. > > 28. > > 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com > > 30. > > July: > > 1. > === message truncated === From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:31:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10258 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:31:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 10010 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:31:02 -0000 Received: from web116.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.89) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:31:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413173248.28402.rocketmail@web116.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web116.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:32:48 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: Oldie But Goodie ;) To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I heard this song on the oldies station. I started to smile for some strange reason, maybe you will too. ;) *HUGZ* pat Dancing In The Moonlight--Harvest King We get it almost every night When that ol' moon gets-a big and bright It's a supernatural delight Everybody's dancin' in the moonlight Everybody here is out of sight They don't bark, and they don't bite They keep things loose, they keep things light Everybody was dancin' in the moonlight Everybody's dancin' in the moonlight Everybody's feelin' warm and right It's such a fine and natural sight Everybody's dancin' in the moonlight We like our fun and we never fight You can't dance and stay uptight It's a supernatural delight Everybody was dancin' in the moonlight From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:33:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13500 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:33:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 13475 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:33:42 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:33:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413173151.29580.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.246] by web4; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:31:51 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:31:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: RE:HApPY BdaY To: Joaqman , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A question, IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING ANNOYED BY THIS THREAD!??? jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:35:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14897 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:35:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 14880 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:35:40 -0000 Received: from cloudfactory.org (HELO stratus.cloudfactory.org) (kati@205.179.129.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:35:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (kati@localhost) by stratus.cloudfactory.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA03289; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:35:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Kati Fleming To: Jeremy Bispo cc: Joaqman , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: RE:HApPY BdaY In-Reply-To: <19990413173151.29580.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, it really sucks. On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Jeremy Bispo wrote: > > A question, IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING ANNOYED BY THIS > THREAD!??? > > jer > > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:36:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16598 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:36:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 16587 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:36:37 -0000 Received: from smtp.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:36:37 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <26LGLRH0>; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:29:42 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24B2@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: "'mercutio@cloudfactory.org'" , Joaqman , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: RE:HApPY BdaY Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:29:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE85D3.3756205C" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE85D3.3756205C Content-Type: text/plain Annoyed by what thread? Andy Valverde Network Technician NorthPoint Communications 222 Sutter, San Francisco > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Bispo [SMTP:mercutio73@rocketmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:32 AM > To: Joaqman; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: RE:HApPY BdaY > > > A question, IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING ANNOYED BY THIS > THREAD!??? > > jer > > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE85D3.3756205C Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: RE:HApPY BdaY

Annoyed by what = thread?

Andy Valverde =
Network = Technician
NorthPoint = Communications
222 Sutter, San = Francisco

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Jeremy Bispo = [SMTP:mercutio73@rocketmail.com]
    Sent:   Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:32 AM
    To:     Joaqman; sfraves@hyperreal.org
    Subject:       = Re: RE:HApPY BdaY


    A question, IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING = ANNOYED BY THIS
    THREAD!???

    jer


    =3D=3D=3D
    Jeremy B. Bispo
    Member Support Specialist
    Cybergold, Inc.
    2921 Adeline
    Berkeley CA 94703
    510.845.5000 ext. 126


------_=_NextPart_001_01BE85D3.3756205C-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:42:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21558 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:42:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 21541 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:42:24 -0000 Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:42:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413174320.477.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.36.254.183] by web306.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:43:20 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:43:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + nonPLUR To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Please explain this pride in a NON-PLUR theme ... Does that mean the party is about Disruption, Hate, Division & Disrespect? Sounds like the kind of events that go on everywhere BUT the Rave Scene ... If this is a new trend I know of some extremely violent bars & clubs you might like ... Still, the website looks great & you have MMM Matt on the team so I might check it out ... Should I come armed? Just because I'm gentle dosn't mean I'm weak, Stefan --- H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: > i have 1 thing to say, THANK GOD ITS NOT A PLUR > PARTY, i will be there 4 SURE! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:43:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22886 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:43:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 22786 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:42:59 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:42:59 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA18152 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA28198 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:41:09 GMT Message-ID: <066e01be85d5$abf60d30$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> From: "Mook" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: NRR- This bday stuff Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:47:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you are going to post what your bday or friends bday is please go right ahead but please don't repost this massive calendar. First, it is so big I can't find the difference between one and the next. Second, it takes up a lot of space and and fills up our mailboxes. This really screws with people who have limits for their mailboxes or who auto-download their mail. Third, there is no original thought in this and is just another pointless forward(spam) that plagues our email system. Thanx for just posting your b-day and not reposting the entire calendar. =) MooK<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:51:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29022 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:51:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 29013 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:51:29 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:51:29 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 4ZONa20578; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:50:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <312e3066.2444ddf8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:50:48 EDT Subject: Re: (NRR) AllThoseOn AOL! SomeoneScamingForYourPassword To: NThompson@pgmusa.com, BodhiInSF@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, something like this happened to me as well, but I didnt give them my info and decided to call the number in the e-mail and it turned out to be a sex line .. There are a lot of scammers out there. So be careful everyone!!!! In a message dated 4/13/99 8:35:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, NThompson@pgmusa.com writes: << Thank you for that message. I got one like it the other day, an Email from another AOL user saying my credit card account was messed up and I had to give them my credit card number, full name, address, password, etc. I actually fell for it but the information didn't go through because it gave me an error "URL not found"!! so I called AOL And they told me that it was a scam. I was SUPER scared about that though...and STUPID for falling for it!! Just a warning for you guys to watch out for that! Naomi >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 17:57:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4124 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:57:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 3803 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:57:12 -0000 Received: from f136.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:57:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 25873 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 17:56:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413175607.25870.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.120 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:55:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.120] From: "JASON BRANCH" To: NThompson@pgmusa.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:55:58 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2496d7ce_57a245ce$1cfd5913" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2496d7ce_57a245ce$1cfd5913 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >From: Naomi Thompson >To: "'RobinT'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 -0700 > > > January: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* >******JeSsiCa AnD jR > foR > LiFe****** > 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com > 29. > 30. > 31. > February: > 1. > 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net > 3. > 4. > 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > March: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > April: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send >presents)lol > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. >LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER > *i <3 > U* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > May: > 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- > MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* > 12. > 13. > 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, >Cheapcholo@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com > 29. > 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com > 31. > June: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com > 30. > July: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. <<< 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. CaSaNdRa MISTEASER@AOL.COM > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. megan~babyG91466@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. *Kelly ~ Tootsie500@aol.com* > 24. > 25. > 26. *Katie- HowieLuva1@aol.com* *mike >johnson~ > herbyhynde@aol.com* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > August: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. ~~~Samantha~~~ Samm1687@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. ~~Shannon~~Shanson446@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > September: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21.Geeta-Shelex1963@aol.com > 22. > 23. > 24. GrLstLkLy2@aol.com<~~~ Girl least likely 2 > 25. LuV3AbLeZz@aol.com *YaY* > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > October: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<---@ sEe >Ya ArOuND > =0) > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. 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>From: Naomi Thompson <NThompson@pgmusa.com>
>To: "'RobinT'" <robint@cruinc.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY
>Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 -0700
>
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> January:
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>******JeSsiCa AnD jR
> foR
> LiFe******
> 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com
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> 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send
>presents)lol
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> 7.
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> 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com
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> MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~*
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> 13.
> 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!!
> 15.
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>Cheapcholo@aol.com
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>johnson~
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> 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<---@ sEe
>Ya ArOuND
> =0)
> 7.
> 8.
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> 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net
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> 28. ODIE ~ ODIEMAD@AOL.COM
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Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5602 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 17:58:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 5201 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 17:58:15 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 17:58:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413174152.26428.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.246] by web1; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:41:52 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:41:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: RE: RE:HApPY BdaY To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone else notice most of these responses are aol accounts? and they wonder why they have a bad reputation. jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---"Valverde, Andrew" wrote: > > Annoyed by what thread? > > Andy Valverde > Network Technician > NorthPoint Communications > 222 Sutter, San Francisco > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeremy Bispo [SMTP:mercutio73@rocketmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:32 AM > > To: Joaqman; sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: RE:HApPY BdaY > > > > > > A question, IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING ANNOYED BY THIS > > THREAD!??? > > > > jer > > > > > > === > > Jeremy B. Bispo > > Member Support Specialist > > Cybergold, Inc. > > 2921 Adeline > > Berkeley CA 94703 > > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > >
RE: RE:HApPY BdaY

Annoyed by what thread?

Andy Valverde
Network Technician
NorthPoint Communications
222 Sutter, San Francisco

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Jeremy Bispo [SMTP:mercutio73@rocketmail.com]
    Sent:   Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:32 AM
    To:     Joaqman; sfraves@hyperreal.org
    Subject:        Re: RE:HApPY BdaY


    A question, IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING ANNOYED BY THIS
    THREAD!???

    jer


    ===
    Jeremy B. Bispo
    Member Support Specialist
    Cybergold, Inc.
    2921 Adeline
    Berkeley CA 94703
    510.845.5000 ext. 126


From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:01:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8280 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:01:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 8194 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:00:58 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:00:58 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id NAA26614; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id NAA08781; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:52:59 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: "Valverde, Andrew" cc: "'mercutio@cloudfactory.org'" , Joaqman , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: RE:HApPY BdaY In-Reply-To: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24B2@smtp.northpointcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk why doesn't everyone send their b-days to the originator of this post, and then he/she can send the complete list to sfraves one time, so we are not getting all this repeated e-mail. i'm not trying to rain on anoybody's parade, but if all 400 of us sent this happy b-day list to sfraves i think we'd all be getting annoyed. and no, i am not a tirant, just another time that you should think before you post to the entire list. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:02:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10512 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:02:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 10267 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:02:31 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:02:31 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-165.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.165]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA25971; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990413163516.006e6920@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:35:16 -0500 To: Stefan Gosiewski From: Nuku Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + nonPLUR Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 10:43 AM 4/13/99 -0700, you wrote: >Please explain this pride in a NON-PLUR theme ... Does that mean the >party is about Disruption, Hate, Division & Disrespect? Nope it doesn't mean that at all..why think in polorized way ..Just because i don't believe in your concept of "Plur". I personally don't believe in Plur for my own reasons and i know other ppl who think the same way. > Sounds like the kind of events that go on everywhere BUT the Rave >Scene ... If this is a new trend I know of some extremely violent bars >& clubs you might like ... Not evry bar is violent, maing your not practicing your respect at all. Nor is it unity. And i dunno the way you come off is kind of...negative don't be a plur nazi. If anthing those who practice preachin plur (evolved preachers) understand that there will be difference in the way ppl think and act and not everyone will want to believe in their rhetoric and such, and if you don't think violence doesn't happen at raves then well..ok think that ;) And the person may be talking about non-plur party as in everyone is all yippy skippy I have plur blah blah blah. practice your plur! do you have plur! where is your plurrines today?!?! yadda yadda yadda If you don't understand that then like...think of it like waking up in the morning and going to work and you have this perky morning preson who is really happy and in your face and your like shut up dammit i haven't had my first cup yet thats prolly what they mean. I dunno i get real bugged when i see post like this. *sigh* I ain't no cock-blockin plur hater but I ain't a playah either *peace* Nuku >Still, the website looks great & you have MMM Matt on the team so I >might check it out ... Should I come armed? > >Just because I'm gentle dosn't mean I'm weak, > >Stefan > >--- H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: >> i have 1 thing to say, THANK GOD ITS NOT A PLUR >> PARTY, i will be there 4 SURE! >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:04:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12544 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:04:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 12535 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:04:28 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:04:28 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-251.dsp.com [204.118.76.251]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA16150 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:07:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199904131707.KAA16150@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:01:01 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR: 10 ways to drive your karma and curb your dogma Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; types="text/plain,text/html"; boundary="=====================_11712732==_.ALT" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_11712732==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pardonez moi if you've seen this 10x before; I enjoyed being reminded and thought I'd pass it on... 10 Ways To Drive Your Karma & Curb Your Dogma 1. Be a Fundamentalist-make sure the Fun always comes before the mental. Realize that life is a situation comedy that will never be canceled. A laugh track has been provided, and the reason why we are put in the material world is to get more material. Have a good laughtsitive twice a day, and that will insure regular hilarity. 2. Remember that each of us has been given a special gift-just for entering.So you are already winner! 3. The most powerful tool on the planet today is Tell-A-Vision. That is where I tell a vision to you, and you tell a vision to me. That way, if we don't like the programming we're getting, we can change the channel. 4. Life is like photography. You use the negative to develop. 5. It is true. As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles tend to get caught between the ears, causing a condition called truth decay. So be sure to use mental floss twice a day. And when you're tempted to practice tantrum yoga, remember what we teach in Swami's Absurdiveness Training class: "Don't get even, get odd." 6. If we want world peace, we must let go of our attachments and truly live like nomads. That's where I no mad at you, you no mad at me. That way, there'll surely be no madness on the planet. And peace begins with each of us. A little peace here, a little peace there, pretty soon all the pieces will fit together to make one big peace everywhere. 7. I know great earth changes have been predicted for the future, so if you're looking to avoid earthquakes, my advice is simple. When you find a fault, just don't dwell on it. 8. There's no need to change the world. All we have to do is toilet train the world, and we'll never have to change it again. 9. If you're looking to find the key to the Universe, I have some bad news and some good news. The bad news is-there is no key to the Universe. The good news is-it has been left unlocked. 10.Finally, everything I have told you is channeled. That way, if you don't like it, it's not my fault. And remember, enlightenment is not a bureaucracy. So you don't have to go through channels. --=====================_11712732==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Pardonez moi if you've seen this 10x before; I enjoyed being reminded and thought I'd pass it on...

10 Ways To Drive Your Karma & Curb Your Dogma

1. Be a Fundamentalist-make sure the Fun always comes before the mental.
Realize that life is a situation comedy that will never be canceled.  A laugh track has been provided, and the reason why we are put in the material world is to get more material.  Have a good laughtsitive twice a day, and that will insure regular hilarity.

2. Remember that each of us has been given a special gift-just for entering.So you are already winner!

3. The most powerful tool on the planet today is Tell-A-Vision. That is where I tell a vision to you, and   you tell a vision to me. That way, if we don't like the programming we're getting, we can change the channel.

4. Life is like photography.  You use the negative to develop.

5. It is true. As we go through life thinking heavy thoughts, thought particles tend to get caught between the ears, causing a condition called truth decay. So be sure to use mental floss twice a day. And when you're tempted to practice tantrum yoga, remember what we teach in Swami's Absurdiveness Training class: "Don't get even, get odd."

6. If we want world peace, we must let go of our attachments and truly live like nomads.  That's where I no mad at you, you no mad at me.  That way, there'll surely be no madness on the planet. And peace begins with each of us. A little peace here, a little peace there, pretty soon all the pieces will fit together to make one big peace everywhere.

7. I know great earth changes have been predicted for the future, so if you're looking to avoid earthquakes, my advice is simple. When you find a fault, just don't dwell on it.

8. There's no need to change the world. All we have to do is toilet train the world, and we'll never have to change it again.

9. If you're looking to find the key to the Universe, I have some bad news and some good news.  The bad news is-there is no key to the Universe.  The good news is-it has been left unlocked.

10.Finally, everything I have told you is channeled. That way, if you don't like it, it's not my fault.  And remember, enlightenment is not a bureaucracy. So you don't have to go through channels.


--=====================_11712732==_.ALT-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:07:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13842 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:07:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 13832 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:07:19 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:07:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413180056.24182.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.200.140] by attach1; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:00:55 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:00:55 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: MAx and AnDy W To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Are these guys bedfellows or what??? I think they should write a book together. -alex From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:07:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14550 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:07:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14509 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:07:34 -0000 Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:07:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413180831.6250.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.9.21] by web306.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:08:31 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:08:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz-- Shootouts at NYC UG parties To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Reminds me of an underground in Brooklyn about ten years ago ... The flyer stated "It ain't about peace, It ain't about love, It's just about the groove" ... I shot video of the event that you should see ... Especially when the colourful kids have to find cover behind chairs & mattresses from the automatic weapons fire ... Those promoters were not bad people but their "Toy Macho" Swagger attitude attracted people who had no time for PLUR...They publicly declared a negative attitude and a lot of people got hurt because they didn't think it through... Which begs the Question - If you are not about positivity then what are you about? and what does it have to do with this scene? ... There are lots of Discos that are 'All about the music' where people get drunk & fight every weekend and PLUR is never mentioned ... But we don't read about them on this list. Maybe THOSE are your people... 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Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:09:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16909 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:09:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 16899 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:09:01 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?dcck7G224Ml4n7vzZHHC8+xlP/WC+BPX?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:09:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id LAA09270; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:08:56 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:08:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: SCiEnCe cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: MAx and AnDy W In-Reply-To: <19990413180056.24182.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't get it, little barrister butt. On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, SCiEnCe wrote: > Are these guys bedfellows or what??? > > I think they should write a book together. > > -alex > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:12:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21461 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:12:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21451 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:12:05 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:12:05 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA10790; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:12:03 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: Jessica Webster cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: 10 ways to drive your karma and curb your dogma In-Reply-To: <199904131707.KAA16150@mail.dsp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk these karMA & dogMA talk reminds me of yo-mama joke i heard on radio: yo mama's bloodtype is RAGU extra chunky. errrr.... it sounded funny when i heard it. carry on. b- ____ "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, and you will have his shoes." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:13:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23296 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:13:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 23285 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:13:36 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:13:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413180714.25475.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.200.140] by attach1; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:07:14 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:07:14 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: MAx and AnDy W To: Max McCauley Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk come on... say something funny! -alex ---Max McCauley wrote: > > > I don't get it, little barrister butt. > > > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, SCiEnCe wrote: > > > Are these guys bedfellows or what??? > > > > I think they should write a book together. > > > > -alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:15:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24761 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:15:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 24753 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:15:35 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:15:35 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07012; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2M04S0SQ>; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:11:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'SCiEnCe'" , Max McCauley Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: MAx and AnDy W Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:11:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Something Funny. HI MAX TALK TO ME!! *Naomi* --cowering in a corner From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:16:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25646 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:16:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 25596 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:16:53 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?AMbtLbthGRoccDcyuKSyNriBnWeuO3kP?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:16:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id LAA11164; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:16:49 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: SCiEnCe cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: MAx and AnDy W In-Reply-To: <19990413180714.25475.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, SCiEnCe wrote: > come on... say something funny! > > -alex Um. Me and your girlfriend laugh at how she calls me Alex so that it's not technically cheating? love, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:17:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26350 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:17:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 26167 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:17:08 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:17:08 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c2 (mmf11.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.81]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01661; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904131817.LAA01661@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: BreakBeat@thegrid.net From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Titanic song CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:19:40 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Psst its called sarcasm. Dizamn, you didn't have to vomit. But don't try to deny that you don't sing along to 95.7 songs, especially the bus song. They're just so catchy. Don't even deny it!! Rafie On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:56:12 -0700, BreakBeat@thegrid.net wrote... >*puke* funny.. I would have said playing stuff off of z 95.7 is about as >cheesy as it gets. > >symmetry > >Rafie wrote: > >> Why do people play shite like this at parties? It's soooo C-H-E-E-Z-Y >> >> There should be more songs like that one by Vengaboys that's about a bus >> and goes "New York to San Francisco, an inter-city disco.." ./~ >> More Z 95.7 stuff in general. >> >> Rafie >> >> On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:23:07 EDT, >> JUNGurlE@aol.com wrote... >> >would this be the same titanic song I hear M&M spinning at popsikle? >> > >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:21:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29329 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:21:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 29315 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:21:03 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:21:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413181440.27097.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.200.140] by attach1; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:14:40 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: MAx and AnDy W To: Max McCauley Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---Max McCauley wrote: > > Um. Me and your girlfriend laugh at how she calls me Alex so that it's > not technically cheating? NOW THAT's FUNNY! I told you guys... he's full of them. He's full of lots of things! -alex PS- Hi Naomi:) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:24:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1621 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:24:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 1601 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:24:16 -0000 Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.187) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:24:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413183204.15448.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.9.21] by web305.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:32:04 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:32:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: RE: total bs: 66MHz + nonPLUR To: "Valverde, Andrew" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Young Ravers may be forcing a PLUR vibe just as young Gangsta types force a macho violence vibe at least the ravers are trying something positive and in time may find a non contrived way of expressing their direction ... There is a big difference between "letting it flow" and declaring enthusiasm for a non PLUR attitude . The Rave Scene is Different from the mainstream "Disco" scene mainly because of the component of people reaching for enlightenment and a better way ... People can do what they like ... But I have seen this scene cycle many times and it is usually those who have no underlying positive philosophy who remain untransformed and go rejoin Babylon in time ..... ---. It seems that too many ravers attempt > a contrived feel to the > scene. Trying too hard to spead peace and love.. > Just let it flow and > dont' force it.. > > am I right? DEFINITELY NOT! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:32:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8534 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:32:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8514 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:32:02 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:32:02 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id gLPCa02490; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:29:19 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: <2b99376b.2444e6ff@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:29:19 EDT Subject: Re: Did someone say first party experience? To: steve@warmth.org, autodementia@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Reply-To: BlueWAK@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just to second your opinion on the vibe in the Bay Area...I've been to raves in LA and in New York and they don't even begin to compare to the vibe around here. Maybe I'm biased because this is home, but I've talked to others that feel the same way. We should all be proud of our vibe and energy in the Bay Area..because we know what it's all about. Drea From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:40:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15938 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:40:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 15923 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:40:25 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:40:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA20005; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:40:23 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: Ravergrl27@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (NRR) AllThoseOn AOL! SomeoneScamingForYourPassword In-Reply-To: <312e3066.2444ddf8@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: Yeah, something like this happened to me as well, but I didnt give them my info and decided to call the number in the e-mail and it turned out to be a sex line .. There are a lot of scammers out there. So be careful everyone!!!! ______________ ***That's not a sex line honey, that's my speakerphone. andytryingtobefunnyw p.s. Thanks Dr.Xeno for having us (li+jbot+andyw) and anyone that tuned in over in the lands to the east last night. That whole TekInducedEuphoria thing was a riot to play. I've never had so much fun spinning a 20 minute slot (3 DJs - 1 hour - makes you want to mix quick so you get all your favorites in)... some people say Davis this, Davis that, but KDVS is actually a nice radio station. And we had a great host. And we got to do the uber pimp thing where we get interviewed and act like idiots (my IQ drops by 50 when you put a microphone in front of me, but it was very fun). Thankyou! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:42:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17689 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:42:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 17636 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:42:12 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:42:12 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-165.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.165]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA00676; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990413171500.006e7b04@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:15:00 -0500 To: Stefan Gosiewski From: Nuku Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz-- Shootouts at NYC UG parties Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah so to preach plur is the answer, if I stood up and said "please be plur!" It would stop? Hrm you act as if PLUR is the key to everthing..those kids who were ducking and covering were (prolly) enjoying the groove. I bet for them it was about the music..the music is the key. Screw the labels of what I should be doing and practing..when i am hearing a dope ass cut i am not thinking "ooo I should be plurry and such" I'm thinking this music is lickwid. The ppl i hang wit are not together because we practice plur. We hang because we love the music. The music itself is enuff to bind us together...not some concept of plurrydom. If i see somebody completely new to me and bumpin to the same groove i say wassup...is that being plur or is that just me being happy and saying hi? The guys who shot up the place were idiots..plain and simple. You get idiots in every day of your life. PLUR has nothing to do with it. You get idiots who decide that hey are ruff n tuff for whateveah reason. Idiots who are idiots just to be..thats life See in your mindframe, positivity=plur if plur is your mantra for positivity then fine be it so. Some ppl need to have phrases and chants and stuff like that to re affirm them to be positive. Really though life itself is positive, even though it may not seem like it is all the time. I need no lables for what I am, practice, or preach. It is what it is. If you are not about positivity then what are you >about? and what does it have to do with this scene? ... There are lots >of Discos that are 'All about the music' where people get drunk & fight >every weekend and PLUR is never mentioned ... But we don't read about >them on this list. Maybe THOSE are your people... THIS MUSIC MADE THIS SCENE, NOT PLUR..it's for the love of music we come together in peace, love, and unity. (sounds plurry but it's not, it's a basic truth.) You forgotten that I guess and also youve just dissed me by even thinking of writing that, check yourself Plur nazi. At 11:08 AM 4/13/99 -0700, you wrote: >Reminds me of an underground in Brooklyn about ten years ago ... The >flyer stated "It ain't about peace, It ain't about love, It's just >about the groove" ... I shot video of the event that you should see ... >Especially when the colourful kids have to find cover behind chairs & >mattresses from the automatic weapons fire ... Those promoters were not >bad people but their "Toy Macho" Swagger attitude attracted people who >had no time for PLUR...They publicly declared a negative attitude and a >lot of people got hurt because they didn't think it through... Which >begs the Question - If you are not about positivity then what are you >about? and what does it have to do with this scene? ... There are lots >of Discos that are 'All about the music' where people get drunk & fight >every weekend and PLUR is never mentioned ... But we don't read about >them on this list. Maybe THOSE are your people... > >Just because I'm gentle dosen't mean I'm Weak > > > >--- H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: >> i have 1 thing to say, THANK GOD ITS NOT A PLUR >> PARTY, i will be there 4 SURE! >> > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:44:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19561 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:44:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 19553 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:44:30 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:44:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413184239.13580.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.200.140] by web4; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:42:39 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:42:39 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: BSP: Science and Max in the CAGE MATCH at Harmony To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No holds barred, the loser is sold to the gypsies! Full details to follow. Get your tickets presale to ensure admission. Free shouts out to the first 500 through the door. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 18:56:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27466 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 18:56:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27296 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 18:56:33 -0000 Received: from web302.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.184) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 18:56:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413185740.14032.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.9.21] by web302.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:57:40 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:57:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + PLUR sarcasm To: Mook Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I understand the sarcasm obviously But I have 2 points to make 1) "The Masses " never were into PLUR -Listen to commercial radio it is all about separating the music from the message (Especially a socially transforming message)... Music stripped of its underlying philosophy is what the Masses ARE about. 2) Those kids are the future of the scene ... If they don't know which way is up it is our fault because we haven't shown them ... If we had that attitude during Rave prehistory there would have been no scene now... + To keep the record straight I want to express some real sentiments to the promoters : PEACE : I hope your party goes peacefully & problem free. LOVE : Be good to one another (You prefer the alternative?) UNITY : May our similarities always outweigh our differences. RESPECT : You are about to face the challenge of putting a party on ... The effort alone is worty of respect. The best of luck.And may PLUR be present whether you invite it or not (Because a truly PLURfree event is a big brawl that gets shut down early by the cops with someone running off with the door money!) --- Mook wrote: > he is being sarcastic. He is trying to say that this > party isn't > pandering to the masses but rather is about music > (a > million teeny-bopper "kiddz" running around like > chickens with their > headz cut-off not knowing which way is up. > > If you go check me out in the chill room from > 2:30-4:30 =) > MooK<>< > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 19:00:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3317 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 19:00:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 3136 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 19:00:28 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 19:00:28 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-165.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.165]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA02650 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990413173317.006fb82c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:33:17 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: BSP: Science and Max in the CAGE MATCH at Harmony Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's the Irish Brawler gainst the Techtep Scientist! This promises to be a rumble deep in the Jungle! Where the winner gets to be shown to paradise! If you missed this colossal match at Beautiful People then your sure to be in for a treat! Can I get a Shoutout! Can I get a wha wha! Can I get a whoo whoo! Nuku At 11:42 AM 4/13/99 -0700, you wrote: >No holds barred, the loser is sold to the gypsies! >Full details to follow. Get your tickets presale to ensure admission. >Free shouts out to the first 500 through the door. > >-Science > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 19:00:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3988 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 19:00:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 3772 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 19:00:46 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 19:00:46 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.222] (seoul-222.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.222]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA25376 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:00:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:05:21 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Subject: RE: calendar Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what's the right e:mail address for posting to sfraves calendar? thanks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 19:13:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16769 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 19:13:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 16640 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 19:13:05 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 19:13:05 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.222] (seoul-222.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.222]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA28967 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:13:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:17:40 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Subject: BSP: who is Adam X? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi. A Blatent Adam X Promotion for y'all. Adam X: Sonic Groove, NY "For over 10 years Adam X has remained steadfast in his technotic efforts to interpret the future - our future. Beginning as a graffiti artist working deep in the heart of Brooklyn, Adam, along with his brother Frankie Bones and friend Heather Heart, first introduced the rave underground to America ... America's first underground techno parties, in abandoned warehouses or on deserted lots, STORMraves introduced a new type of party to a new generation of kids and opened them up to a whole new world of music. Beginning in 1991 with recordings for labels like Fabulous, Direct Drive, Drop Bass, Peacefrong, Scandinaviea and Sonic Groove Records, Adam has amassed a devastating catalogue, pushing Brooklyn techno into the millenium with explorations into adrenaline, ecstasy, and darkness. His DJ gigs around the world are legendary: aggressive and euphoric...." >From notes on the CD: ADAM X WaxTrax! MasterMix Volume 2 Friday May 21 MAZE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 19:23:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27574 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 19:23:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 27498 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 19:23:01 -0000 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (17.254.0.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 19:23:01 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06502 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:18:05 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (scv2.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (mailgate1.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:17:55 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv2.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA35148 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:17:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199904131917.MAA35148@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Re: BSP: Science and Max in the CAGE MATCH at Harmony Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:17:54 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On 4/13/99 11:42 AM SCiEnCe wrote: >Free shouts out to the first 500 through the door. Did you mean to say free shots for the first 500 peeps through the door... Because if you're taking requests I think 151 or Tequila is appropriate-- hell, maybe I could bring my margarita machine-- Free slushies for everyone :P bb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 19:43:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13521 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 19:43:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 13505 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 19:43:28 -0000 Received: from f52.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 19:43:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 3519 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 19:43:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413194346.3518.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:43:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: natasha426@hotmail.com, neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Many Thanks :) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:43:45 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Might I ask the same? Are you OK, Natasha? ---------- >From: "Natasha 426" >To: neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: Many Thanks :) >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:30:26 PDT > >What the f*ck??!? > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Trance & Jungle Factory [SMTP:neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu] >Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 8:53 PM >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Many Thanks :) > >To all of you that attended Tickle 3: > >**Thank you so much for making this a great party!!!** >It was awesome to see everybody so pumped and full >of energy... the party had a wonderful vibe, and >we've been getting nothing but positive support from >all of you! Keep bringing all your smiling faces >and positive vibes and we'll keep bringing you more >great parties!! Our next event will be on May 22nd, >our *2-year* anniversary! Until then, have fun and >party responsibly! > Yours, >the Trance and Jungle Factory > (Thomas & crew) > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 20:54:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4517 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 20:54:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 4365 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 20:54:11 -0000 Received: from tcsi.com (HELO gateway.tcsi.com) (137.134.47.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 20:54:11 -0000 Received: from almd-ms.tcsi.com (almd-ms.tcsi.com [137.134.4.21]) by gateway.tcsi.com (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA08223; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waxwing (waxwing.tcsi.com [137.134.4.208]) by almd-ms.tcsi.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA17357; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Victor Wiewiorowski Received: (victorw@localhost) by waxwing (SMI-8.6/8.6.10) id NAA16852; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:54:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199904132054.NAA16852@waxwing> Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! To: akp2@duke.edu (MacBunny) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: from "MacBunny" at Apr 13, 99 12:14:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > then either you've missed the HUGE > crowd of us that actually DON't to drugs or have stopped, or we really > have a huge problem in our scene that i'm just not aware about (and i > hope this isn't the case.) i can't say i necessarily agree with this person's methods, but i'm getting *sick and tired* of people making a sad puppy face and going `but why???' when i tell them i'm not on any drugs at a party. the scene at these big parties is downright hostile to people who are sober. i had one kid admit to me ``i wanted to come sober, but my friends `made' me take some E'', and this was a twenty one year old guy who's been partying for six years. so i would say that some effort to get people to try raving sober, and not treat someone who's not on drugs as an anomaly, is a good thing. let's face it, the raver version of `so how about that weather?', is `what are you on?' how about a motto: `raving sober - a mind altering experience' -. victor ._ (when i get that puppy face i think i'm going to start saying `crack. i'm on crack cocaine. would you like a rock?' just to see what the reactions will be) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:07:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14201 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:07:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14049 invoked by uid 233); 13 Apr 1999 21:07:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:07:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: Max McCauley cc: Candida29@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: happy b-day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree, please at least tag this NRR if you must, but otherwise people please keep this thread private. With all due respect, this isn't kindergarden.;) Love ya'all and you know that! Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > > man, there has just GOT to be a way for this fucking shit to not get sent > to the whole list over and over. > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:10:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16716 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:10:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 16687 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:10:15 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:10:15 -0000 Received: from shell.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA09614; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904132108.OAA09614@mail.netwiz.net> To: je cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP: who is Adam X? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:17:40 -0800 Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:08:04 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I almost bought the Wax Trax MasterMix vol 2, but I decided to buy Wax Trax MM vol 1 (Juan Atkins) first... vol 1, IMHO, is GREAT. Unfortunately, the actual sound of the CD itself is pretty crappy, which was disappointing, since a lot of the tracks he plays are classics and pretty much impossible to find. It actually sounds like J.A. is playing his OLD RECORDS FROM BACK IN THE DAY, and although the sounds still seems fresh today, the media itself is played out. but it could also be a number of other things, like an overdriven mixer or bad cart/phono stage... Anyways, how does the Adam X CD sound? Cuz if it sounds anything like the J.A disk, it's something you can also copy by tape or MP3 and it won't sound that much worse. Please let us know. (And if you're working for waxtrax/tvt pls pass this letter on to someone that can make a difference w/r/t the sound quality.) > Friday > May 21 > MAZE What is this?? Are you saying Adam X will be spinning out here? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:17:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23480 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:17:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23316 invoked by uid 233); 13 Apr 1999 21:17:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 14532 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 20:27:56 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 20:27:56 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Tue Apr 13 13:27:21 1999 To: "warmthlist" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:27:21 -0800 From: "Joaqman" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: bsp - apology to those under 21, love joaqman X-Sender-Ip: 206.170.3.116 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dear people under 21, i sincerely apologize, but after exhaustive research i have not been able to find an insurance policy that is reasonable for my party, Dive Urgent, sat. nite, 4.24.99. the lowest quote for an all ages event in sunnyvale for 50 people runs about $1,200.00. Needless to say, that is outside my budget. Therefore Dive Urgent will be a 21 & over event. if you are under 21 & have any gripes or constructive comments please e-mail me personally cuaotemoc@hotbot.com or call 510/330.1101 or 415.339.8735 and i'll put you on the guestlist for an upcoming techno show that i am throwing in July. for those of you over 21 i have reduced the admission to $5 bux. dj's for the evening Dive Urgent sat. nite 4.24.99 7pm-2am Diversion, V.O.R.G. gEoff ;), Stargaze Family Micron, Viberation Macadio, First Light Keith E., Solid Grooves & Skyscraper, So. Bay Trance Co-op B))merang Fidget, Ambient Shaman sound provided by Silver Pearl (no cabinets clipping here) family-style vibe. ask around and find out. directions??? http://www.quarternote.com/ or 510.330.1101 or 415.339.8735 --- page me @ 510-330-1101 "we came we saw we kicked ass" -- bill murray, ghostbustas HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:17:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24080 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:17:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 23953 invoked by uid 233); 13 Apr 1999 21:17:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23183 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 20:39:29 -0000 Received: from mcfs.whowhere.com (209.1.236.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 20:39:29 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Tue Apr 13 13:38:51 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "warmthlist" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:38:51 -0800 From: "Joaqman" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: bsp - Joaqman X-Sender-Ip: 206.170.3.116 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk bsp - Joaqman april-june upcoming gigs: april 17th Treestock, Ukiah, CA (Great organization, Great Cause) april 24th Dive Urgent, Sunnyvale, CA (my/5 families party 21+) april 30th Honey, Monterey, CA (a new crew w/ their headz in the right place & a Virgin location!) may 14th, RedRoom, Berkeley, CA (secret 5 families party not listed on SFR calendar) may 15th Joaqman works on-staff with his good buddy Macadio on First Light ( i am not spinning, but i am going to have a BLAST!!!! wherever it is and it won't get broken-up and if it does i'm still gonna have a BLAST b/c the first light crew iz bizzity-biZomb) may 22nd, Trance & Jungle Factory 2 Year Anniversary, Bay Area Location (Wheeee-HAA!!) may 31st, Joaqman turns 30!!!! (that's a party in itself) june 19th Feel Good Party (no explanation necessary) more t.b.a. mixtape release date May 22, 1999 booking/up-coming parties: 415/339-8735, 510/330-1101 "if you book him, he will come" -- that guy in the cornfield in "Field of Dreams" --- page me @ 510-330-1101 "we came we saw we kicked ass" -- bill murray, ghostbustas HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:17:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24163 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:17:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 23898 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:17:37 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:17:37 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 5QVKa16622; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:12:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <3df25a5d.24450d36@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:12:22 EDT Subject: Re: My little opinion on TICKLE and newbies. . . To: p_king@mailcity.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk no kidding about the illnesses that are going around raves.. i got a massive cold at F8 and it lasted untill Tickle.. I thought i was fine...and that the soreness in my body was just post-rave ouchies.. but im sitting here with my tonsils the size of Texas and trying to beat a 101 degree fever.. needless to say. im not feeling like the usual sparkles.. BLah!!! Just be careful and don't share drinks, don't fan worship for like 2 hours and keep yer tongue (and barbell) in yer mouth... just some advice from someone who isn't feeling to well... :( PLUR and keep the vibe alive... MUAH.. valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:21:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27513 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:21:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27354 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:21:31 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:21:31 -0000 Received: from shell.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA11664 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904132121.OAA11664@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Fwd: weird ass fish instruments Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:21:27 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk fwded from the larch: ------- Forwarded Message http://www.sme.co.jp/Music/Info/MaywaDenki/02PRODUCT/seihinE.html ------- End of Forwarded Message From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:24:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29471 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:24:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29445 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:24:34 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:24:34 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D746WMT6; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:22:50 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:40:21 -0800 Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + PLUR sarcasm Message-ID: <19990324.234023.-132067.1.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,6,9-12,14,16,19,22-23,29-37,39-87 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PLUR is an OPINION. It's what *you*, as an individual makes of it. While we watch other promoters preach this idea of PLUR to market their cute little parties, and then pull something very UNPLURRY in front of "the Masses", why the hell would we waste our time preaching something that nobody even knows what in the world it really is because as I said, it's an idea. An opinion. I don't think we are leading the future generation astray for not preaching PLUR. We aren't preaching violence for sakes, we are preaching music! To keep the record straight I want to express some real sentiments to you: PEACE: A flyer with an ape with a pacifier? If I was a gun-tottin' gansta wanna-be, I'd sure as hell hit this party up! Sorry, being sarcastic... LOVE: We love the music, we love the groove, we love the vibe, we love girls with big er... nevermind. UNITY: We are brought together by this appreciation for music, and this music is the backbone to your theory of rave and PLUR, if you really think about where the theory came from. RESPECT: Yes, come to the party! All is invited, just don't come armed of course! Preach PLUR if you want, fuck it, preach the gospel of the Holy Lord for all we friggin' care! But come, if you love tekno. MHz isn't about PLUR, so let's please drop it from the thread. That's doesn't mean we are violent people and spend our time stealing cars, punching each other out, or sleeping with each other's girl friends, it simply means we aren't preaching an ideology. We formed for our interest in tekno, not PLUR or DHDD (Disruption, Hate, Division & Disrespect as Stefango stated in an earlier post). Don't get the wrong idea. <<-MegaHertZ->> <> http://www.MHz.nu 415-395-8448 We eat candy ravers for breakfast... On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Stefan Gosiewski writes: >I understand the sarcasm obviously But I have 2 points to make >1) "The Masses " never were into PLUR -Listen to commercial radio it >is >all about separating the music from the message (Especially a >socially >transforming message)... Music stripped of its underlying philosophy >is >what the Masses ARE about. >2) Those kids are the future of the scene ... If they don't know >which >way is up it is our fault because we haven't shown them ... If we had >that attitude during Rave prehistory there would have been no scene >now... > >+ To keep the record straight I want to express some real sentiments >to >the promoters : >PEACE : I hope your party goes peacefully & problem free. >LOVE : Be good to one another (You prefer the alternative?) >UNITY : May our similarities always outweigh our differences. >RESPECT : You are about to face the challenge of putting a party on >... >The effort alone is worty of respect. > >The best of luck.And may PLUR be present whether you invite it or not >(Because a truly PLURfree event is a big brawl that gets shut down >early by the cops with someone running off with the door money!) > > > > > >--- Mook wrote: >> he is being sarcastic. He is trying to say that this >> party isn't >> pandering to the masses but rather is about music >> (a >> million teeny-bopper "kiddz" running around like >> chickens with their >> headz cut-off not knowing which way is up. >> >> If you go check me out in the chill room from >> 2:30-4:30 =) >> MooK<>< >> >> > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:24:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 132 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:24:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 29848 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:24:48 -0000 Received: from f300.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.211) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:24:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 67605 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 21:24:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413212421.67604.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:24:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE:HApPY BdaY Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:24:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk January: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 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Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com 29. 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com 31. June: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com 30. July: 1. 2. 3. 4. <<<> >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:25:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 754 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:25:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 581 invoked by uid 233); 13 Apr 1999 21:25:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:25:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: Ravergrl27@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:Can someone help? In-Reply-To: <61700840.244419f6@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi guys! Hi Jeannie !! :) It looks like the limit's currently set to six, and yes, people do exceed their limit but after their 6th posts their exceeded limit posts are bounced back to ME and I can't do a thing about it (and won't, either). Some people (like Paul) knows that this "limit" ends every day at midnight, and sometimes are watching their watches with their finger poised on the "send" button, waiting to post again, (ok maybe not this extreme but it's quite a silly thing to think about however) and it seems like there are more posts than 6 in a day. Some people have alot to say, some people like to see themselves talk, some people are bored, some people again have alot to say (I do, sometimes!). So there is a limit for posting, it's currently 6, though I had thought it was five until I noticed oneday the messages began bouncing after 6. Hope that helps! Love, Lara:) ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > > I was just wondering if someone can help me find out how many posts a person > can have in one day.. There are a few on the list that post nonstop. I mean I > dont mind so much but there is one girl one here that Just posts to > everything and I think she can make at least some of them private. Especaily > when she is just directing it to that person only..I guess she needs all the > attention she can get, but please..... Someone help me out here with this > question? Thanks =) > Jeannie > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:27:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2845 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:27:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 2834 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:27:12 -0000 Received: from hissy-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO hissy.excite.com) (198.3.99.229) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:27:12 -0000 Received: from claude.excite.com ([199.172.152.181]) by hissy.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990413212621.ZYRO29310.hissy@claude.excite.com> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:26:21 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Birthday Spam Message-Id: <924038780.28765.258@excite.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:26:20 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes, i also request that people STOP responding with their birthday on this huge survey.... as a reader of the list via the digest.... i have to scroll down days of nothingness to get to REAL messages.... whoever thought this was fun should take personal responses and compile a calendar... or put up a web page people can volunteer to post too... this is ALMOST as annoying as people who enclose long encoded attachments that turn into 3,000 pages of gibberish on the digest/archives. leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:34:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9693 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:34:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 9651 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:34:32 -0000 Received: from jake-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO jake.excite.com) (198.3.99.221) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:34:32 -0000 Received: from pouch.excite.com ([199.172.152.242]) by jake.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990413213344.WBOX22643.jake@pouch.excite.com> for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:33:44 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: BSP: Deep Inside Message-Id: <924039222.29249.973@excite.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:33:42 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i am so psyched about this!! i've been hankering for a groovy weekly where i can just go get my dancing in in the dark corners for a few hours! and zendada used to be the best... you'd go to 1015 on friday nights, and if you told them you were really just there for zendada (and not whatever the clubby upstairs thing was), you got in for $5 instead of the $10 it would regularly be. i'll be there, dancing in the corner... yes, groovy house in the middle of the week! and the basement of 1015 (after they fixed the bad leaks upstairs) is one of my favorite places. leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:39:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13598 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:39:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 13579 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:39:34 -0000 Received: from law-f90.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.153) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:39:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 18137 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 21:39:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413213908.18136.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:39:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.132] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: jawthepixieman@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: NThompson@pgmusa.com Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:39:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: "JASON BRANCH" >To: NThompson@pgmusa.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:55:58 PDT > > > > >>From: Naomi Thompson >>To: "'RobinT'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY >>Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 -0700 >> >> >> January: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* >>******JeSsiCa AnD jR >> foR >> LiFe****** >> 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> February: >> 1. >> 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> March: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> April: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com (send >>presents)lol >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >>LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER >> *i <3 >> U* >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> May: >> 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- >> MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, >>Cheapcholo@aol.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com >> 29. >> 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com >> 31. >> June: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. 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LuV3AbLeZz@aol.com *YaY* >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> October: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<--- @ sEe >>Ya ArOuND >> =0) >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10.Raoul Trancebaby@hotmail.com >> 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. Matthew Ferrell Kraze21@aol.com >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> November: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22.Lady Odyssey... LdOdyssey@aol.com >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. Erin* Lucky66343@aol.com >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> December: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. *marge~ crazy8dazy@aol.com* >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >>Jessica~AlfLuvR15@aol.com~Alf8mycat@yahoo.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. Jamie Welty ~Welt2002@aol.com Nicole >>Welty >> ~Nicol2402@aol.com >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. ODIE ~ ODIEMAD@AOL.COM >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> Please fill it out! >> >> >> >> > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:52:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25670 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:52:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 25661 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:52:02 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:52:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10366 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:52:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Last chance!!!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > i can't say i necessarily agree with this person's methods, but i'm > getting *sick and tired* of people making a sad puppy face and going > `but why???' when i tell them i'm not on any drugs at a party. the > scene at these big parties is downright hostile to people who are > sober. Im sorry you have had people be hostile to you for not being high... I had quite the opposite experience a few weeks ago at the gathering... of course I had a few kids ask why i wasnt on anything, and i told them my reasons with a huge smile and gave them a hug, and i got nothing back but "that is soooo cool", and "you spread the BEST vibe", "I wish I could have as much fun sober as you are having" and such... Not that I am against going to parties and doing whatever (responsibly), but I am againt ALWAYS being on something at parties.. Gregery From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:55:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29339 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:55:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 29329 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:55:56 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:55:56 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vLUGa02488 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:54:56 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <593f3ec9.24451730@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:54:56 EDT Subject: Tickle OD's To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I hate to bring up such a morbid subject...but were the two people that OD'd at Tickle ok? I happened to see both of them (lucky me), and I have been thinking about them since then. You all said that girl was ok, but what about the guy? Please everyone, party responsibly. Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 21:56:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29968 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 21:56:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 29869 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 21:56:07 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 21:56:07 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vFOa016615 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:55:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <5e862d45.24451751@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:55:29 EDT Subject: Re: (NRR) Re: AllThoseOn AOL! SomeoneScamingForYourPassword To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You are correct, if you do respond, the account gets shut down. But you are mistaken, the original account owner will not be able to get another account with AOL. That is why the service does everything to let you know about AOL account stealers. Best thing to do, is ignore it, or if you prefer, send an e-mail to the account stating what happened and to change the password. Hopefully the account stealer will not catch the e-mail before the actual owner signs on the next time. Or maybe, the account owner is dumb enough to use their own account to try and steal passwords but chances arem they aren't. I speak from experience, someone got a hold of my PW, and run amuck on my account until it got shut down. This happened overnight. <> Space201@aol.com wrote: > Actually, if you are an AOL (l)user, and this happens to you, chances are > that the screen name that just sent you the IM or the e-mail, is someone who > has had their PW stolen. You see, you are reporting a SN that is not > responsible for that action because, most likely, someone has gotten a hold > of the password to that screen name and is now using the account to steal > more. Hacker's aren't dumb enough to use their own accounts. You will be > getting someone's account terminated that was only a victim like you. > > In a message dated 4/13/99 12:52:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, > BodhiInSF@aol.com writes: > > << I just recieved a Intant mail form PW Rep 307 saying that because of a > billing mistake, he needs my password. Now, I know this is an obvoious scam. > It right there in bold letters below the IM screen, "AOL will never ask you > for your password or billing information." But... there are those who will > fall for this. Am im sure this person is out there scamming many others. So, > if you get this IM from this person or anyone like this, please notify AOL. > Thanks! Peace, love and {[hugs!}} ---Bodhi > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 22:01:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3750 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 22:01:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 3742 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 22:01:26 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 22:01:26 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vTZMa12389 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:59:36 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <4f930d15.24451848@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:59:36 EDT Subject: Re: AllThoseOn AOL! SomeoneScamingForYourPassword To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hehehe i remember doing that. i used to go around programming punters and stuff creating random havok for aolersall over. chences are that this is a 12-15 year old kid playin around with ya. theres so many of em around its not even sensile to call TOS patrol on em. just let them grow out of their phase like me and turn out to be good boys. -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 22:14:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12570 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 22:14:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12370 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 22:14:03 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 22:14:03 -0000 Received: from 209.157.116.43 (dynamic43.pm17.san-jose.best.com [209.157.116.43]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id PAA21048 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3713C191.120E969E@resourcerecords.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:13:37 -0700 From: The Accomplice Reply-To: chris@resourcerecords.com Organization: Resource Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: Static Tonite!! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello people.. I will be @ STATIC tonite.....those into techno & electro who are 21+.....come check it!! 11:20-12:45 line-up chris jackson [Resource Records, Sonic Groove NYC] sutekh safety scissors info. 415.289.6980 10pm-2:30am 1190 Folsom ST. SF Only 5 Bucks! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 22:15:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13821 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 22:15:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13803 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 22:15:38 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 22:15:38 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vRDIa15543; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:13:33 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <714a66d7.24451b8d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:13:33 EDT Subject: Re: HApPY BdaY To: MIB271@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/13/99 1:53:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, MIB271@aol.com writes: > December: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. *marge~ crazy8dazy@aol.com* > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Jessica~AlfLuvR15@aol.com~Alf8mycat@yahoo.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. Jamie Welty ~Welt2002@aol.com Nicole Welty > ~Nicol2402@aol.com SaMiENiTTy@aol.com > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. ODIE ~ ODIEMAD@AOL.COM > 29. > 30. > 31. > Please fill it out! >> >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 22:18:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14904 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 22:18:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 14893 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 22:18:20 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 22:18:20 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rNZHa20578; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:11:17 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <92dc7274.24451b05@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:11:17 EDT Subject: Re: MYYYYYYY Tickle3 review!!! To: eeelips@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just like i said it.....it bothers the FUUk outta me.... ~Sami In a message dated 4/13/99 12:00:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eeelips@yahoo.com writes: > What's wrong with dee da da? Dee da da can be a pretty wild experience > coming from the voice of a goddess.love,Julie > > --- SaMiENiTTy@aol.com wrote: > > also i don't like songs that go la dee > > da da...la dee da la de > > da la de da.....it bothers the fuuuuuuuuk outta > > me!.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 22:22:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18039 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 22:22:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 18017 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 22:22:17 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 22:22:17 -0000 Received: from BoyInSJ18@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vCUWa07510; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:19:22 -0400 (EDT) From: BoyInSJ18@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:19:22 EDT Subject: Re: happy b-day To: laraz@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: BoyInSJ18@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You go gurl! Hehehe, it's bad enough those e-mails have been filling my mailbox lately, but on SFR too, come on! Wenci From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 22:25:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20444 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 22:24:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 20434 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 22:24:57 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 22:24:57 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id oXERa27509; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:13:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:13:55 EDT Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + PLUR sarcasm To: elias_smith@juno.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have two scoops. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 22:36:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28613 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 22:36:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 28596 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 22:36:38 -0000 Received: from oberon.dnai.com (207.181.194.97) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 22:36:38 -0000 Received: from dnai.com (dnai-207-181-238-87.dialup.dnai.com [207.181.238.87]) by oberon.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29287 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3713C712.9E4E71C4@dnai.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:37:07 -0700 From: "Pete T." Reply-To: mail@BayAreaBusiness.com Organization: Bay Area Business Directory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: NRR:For sale, 1200's, mixers, roland tr-707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Time for spring clean up, I am putting this up on sfraves for first grabs A pair of Technics 1200's with stanton 680 needles and slipmats, one pop-up light is out, 750 Roland TR-707 drum machine, 8 individual outs, good sounds, classic x0x interface,built in mixer, can be put to real good use by a creative individual, 150 Biamp 5001 dj mixer, 150 or best offer, or 100 with turntables Mackie 1202 VLZ compact mixer, 8.5 out of 10 shape, some small scratches on the sides, box and manual included, 275 Bay Area buyer preferred, I am in the East Bay by Walnut Creek >>serious people<< please email me mail@bayareabusiness.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 22:52:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8551 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 22:52:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 8423 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 22:52:49 -0000 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.85) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 22:52:49 -0000 Received: from [209.179.158.175] (pool175-cvx.ds55-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.158.175]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08558 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:52:37 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + PLUR sarcasm Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >I understand the sarcasm obviously But I have 2 points to make >1) "The Masses " never were into PLUR -Listen to commercial radio it is >all about separating the music from the message (Especially a socially >transforming message)... Music stripped of its underlying philosophy is >what the Masses ARE about. >2) Those kids are the future of the scene ... If they don't know which >way is up it is our fault because we haven't shown them ... If we had >that attitude during Rave prehistory there would have been no scene >now... > >+ To keep the record straight I want to express some real sentiments to >the promoters : >PEACE : I hope your party goes peacefully & problem free. >LOVE : Be good to one another (You prefer the alternative?) >UNITY : May our similarities always outweigh our differences. >RESPECT : You are about to face the challenge of putting a party on ... >The effort alone is worty of respect. > >The best of luck.And may PLUR be present whether you invite it or not >(Because a truly PLURfree event is a big brawl that gets shut down >early by the cops with someone running off with the door money!) > > > *sigh* I think you just made our point. hey. we're in this for life. we know it. we can't help it. so if we're going to do this, we're going to do it OUR way. simple. we're geniuses with attitude. and we really need a chance to go nuts before we go NUTS. BTW: made ya look! -r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 22:53:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9279 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 22:53:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 9255 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 22:53:14 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 22:53:14 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vMTBa23592 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:51:27 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: <84a74823.2445246f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:51:27 EDT Subject: HAVE TO FIND THIS RECORD ! ! ! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk can anyone help me get ahold of a record called "Liebe" by Ayla? It is on Unsubmissive Label and its a limited edition picture disc so its hard to find M&M play it all the time now but i found it at least 3-4 months ago but wasnt able to get it on vinyl since its so rare...if anyone has this record and wants to sell/trade or knows where i can get it PLEASE email me...im willin to pay a lot more then the regular $10-12 to get it! thanx ahead PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 23:06:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17687 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 23:06:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 17674 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 23:06:43 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 23:06:43 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D75CT5JZ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:06:19 EDT To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Cc: jakeloco@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:53:08 -0700 Subject: Re: RE:HApPY BdaY Message-ID: <19990413.160934.-4127327.6.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-24 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah lets start another thread about it. Peace, theresa On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Jeremy Bispo writes: > >A question, IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING ANNOYED BY THIS >THREAD!??? > >jer > > >=== >Jeremy B. Bispo >Member Support Specialist >Cybergold, Inc. >2921 Adeline >Berkeley CA 94703 >510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 23:07:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18359 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 23:07:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 18351 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 23:07:06 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 23:07:06 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D75CT5LJ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:06:19 EDT To: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:09:26 -0700 Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! Message-ID: <19990413.160935.-4127327.7.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-7,13-14,17,20-21,26-27,33-63 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:35:22 -0700 swati shah writes: > >1) If you've never been to a party sober, try it once. Lose yourself >to >the music. And then, email me the next day with your experience. I went to my first rave sober. It was a good experience, tho I kinda lost energy about 3 in tha morning, but i danced until then, and a little bit in tha morning. I went to this parrty Brocoli sober basically cause I had no cash, but this chick gave me a caffiene pill, and that and the music were all the energy I needed. I danced all nightt, and had a good vibe cause there were so many people I knew from tha south bay. Most recently, I went to f8 sober. You know that party kicked ass. The music was my drug. I danced all night, and I doubt I would have had a better time had I been fuct up. Yeah I'm not really a big sober raver cause I do like my drugs, but not more than I like tthe music, and definitely not more than I like dancing. Drugs don't make a rave for me, but they often enhance it for me. I think a lot of people who do e at their first party kinda get a little romantic love affair with it for awhile, until they really love the music. I myself was in love with e, but lately it doens't even excite me. So i'm taking a little break and some shrooms instead. I might return if I can enjoy iit as much as I used to again, but if not, I don't need it. Yeah and I don't have that survey attached (my email sux) but you know me so make something up. I went to my first rave in June of 97 so I've been at it for about two years now. I was using e about every party (3-4 times per month), acid about once a month, mushrooms very infrequently, weed every day, but now I'm taking a break from e and acid until I desire it again. Peace, Theresa >2) If you have been going to parties sober, write me an email about >your >first sober party, or any experiences you have that you want to >share. >Write to me about your thoughts on the connections between raves and >drugs, >and how you see the relationship evolving through your experiences. > >3) Everyone, fill out my survey that is attached at the end of this >email >and send it back to me. Its just about how often you rave, and how >often >you use certain drugs. Feel free to share any stories you have with >me, I >love them all. > >Of course, everything will be kept confidential. I understand the >fragility >of some of the issues discussed, and only I will know who responded >how. >Security is not a problem. Thanks to all who have already responded >to me, >and to all of you who will, I hope. > >Love, >Swati or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 23:23:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27873 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 23:23:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 27842 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 23:23:27 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 23:23:27 -0000 Received: from XRictusx@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vXVOa19569 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:22:22 -0400 (EDT) From: XRictusx@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:22:22 EDT Subject: TREESTOCK!!!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: XRictusx@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Treestock is alomost here and I can't wait. Many of you probably have heard about Treestock but might not know exactly what it's about. So... visit the website for all the info on this great weekend. the o'Ryan clan welcomes you to treestock www.treestock.org Hope to see you there ;] Love and Unity, Ryan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 23:23:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27876 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 23:23:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 27846 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 23:23:28 -0000 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (17.254.0.51) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 23:23:28 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22530 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:18:10 -0700 Received: from scv1.apple.com (scv1.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (mailgate1.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:18:07 -0700 Received: from [17.203.44.160] (mdma.mae.apple.com [17.203.44.160]) by scv1.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26490; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:18:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199904132318.QAA26490@scv1.apple.com> Subject: Re: HAVE TO FIND THIS RECORD ! ! ! Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:18:05 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: , "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Found it :) But it'll take a freak'in month to get! peace bbong On 4/13/99 3:51 PM AlexG1029@aol.com wrote: >can anyone help me get ahold of a record called "Liebe" by Ayla? It is on >Unsubmissive Label and its a limited edition picture disc so its hard to find >M&M play it all the time now but i found it at least 3-4 months ago but >wasnt >able to get it on vinyl since its so rare...if anyone has this record and >wants to sell/trade or knows where i can get it PLEASE email me...im willin >to pay a lot more then the regular $10-12 to get it! thanx ahead > >PeAcE OuT > alEx =.) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 23:36:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6513 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 23:36:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 6234 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 23:36:46 -0000 Received: from mail.z-axis.com (HELO z-axis.com) (206.184.208.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 23:36:46 -0000 Received: from jam (jam.z-axis.com [206.184.208.217]) by z-axis.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA14886; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002e01be8605$df6eeda0$d9d0b8ce@jam.z-axis.com> From: "Kevin Parker" To: , Subject: Re: HAVE TO FIND THIS RECORD ! ! ! Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:32:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Try going to Satellite Records (http://www.satelliterecords.com/) and searching for "Liebe". I think they have it in stock. Kevin >can anyone help me get ahold of a record called "Liebe" by Ayla? It is on >Unsubmissive Label and its a limited edition picture disc so its hard to find >M&M play it all the time now but i found it at least 3-4 months ago but wasnt >able to get it on vinyl since its so rare...if anyone has this record and >wants to sell/trade or knows where i can get it PLEASE email me...im willin >to pay a lot more then the regular $10-12 to get it! thanx ahead > >PeAcE OuT > alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 13 23:38:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8403 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 23:38:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 8383 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 23:38:38 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 23:38:38 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-233.dsp.com [204.118.76.233]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA02203 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:41:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199904132241.PAA02203@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:35:07 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR: acronym query Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What does DSWYE mean? It's in reference to (http://www.cardhouse.com/g/moj/mojaz.htm), which is damned funny. Not that the news article totally plagiarizes Godfrey's story from his website, but Godfrey's story and all of Cardhouse as well... Thanks, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:13:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28068 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:13:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 28052 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:13:29 -0000 Received: from ultimanet.com (HELO sugarbeet.salinas.net) (root@205.179.129.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:13:29 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by sugarbeet.salinas.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA30535 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:18:57 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:14:38 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: terry estioko Subject: SFR-Lams at Harmony this Weekend Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay kids, Next chance for SFR Laminates is going to be on Saturday, April 17th at the Harmony Springtime Flower Festival. I'm taking requests until *thursday evening*, So if you are going to want one check out: http://www.viberation.com/terry/sfrlams/ We'll be in the Tech-House Tulips room doing our thang, and I will make sure that one of us is at the water bar promptly at 1am for those who still can't find us. See you on Saturday! -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:21:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3754 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:21:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 3736 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:21:39 -0000 Received: from law-f24.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:21:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 61677 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 01:20:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414012015.61676.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:20:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: MIB271@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: HApPY BdaY Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:20:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: MIB271@aol.com >Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com >To: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org >Subject: HApPY BdaY >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:52:33 EDT > >January: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* ******JeSsiCa AnD jR foR >LiFe****** > 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > February: > 1. > 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net > 3. > 4. > 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > March: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23.Dalen aka Alex aka Alknod@aol.com > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > April: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send presents)lol > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER *i <3 >U* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > May: > 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- >MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* > 12. > 13. > 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com > 29. > 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com > 31. > June: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com > 30. > July: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. <<< 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. CaSaNdRa MISTEASER@AOL.COM > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. megan~babyG91466@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. *Kelly ~ Tootsie500@aol.com* > 24. > 25. > 26. *Katie- HowieLuva1@aol.com* *mike johnson~ >herbyhynde@aol.com* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > August: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. ~~~Samantha~~~ Samm1687@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. ~~Shannon~~Shanson446@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > September: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21.Geeta-Shelex1963@aol.com > 22. > 23. > 24. GrLstLkLy2@aol.com<~~~ Girl least likely 2 > 25. LuV3AbLeZz@aol.com *YaY* > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > October: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<---@ sEe Ya ArOuND =0) > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. 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Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:24:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5114 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:24:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 5101 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:24:03 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:24:03 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vOQBa17640 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:22:23 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:22:23 EDT Subject: Re: SFR-Lams at Harmony this Weekend To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone: I wanted to take some time to thank Terry of Viberations for my SFR Laminate. It takes alot of time and energy, along with an investment up front on his part, to do this for all of us. Im sure Terry could spend his free time, and I know that he doesnt have much of that, doing something else. I recomend getting a laminate. You have no idea what its like to attend a party with one. It was great for me. Even though I didnt met anyone from the list as a result of it. I got plenty of people inquiring about it. And they look great too. So to Terry and the Viberations Crew, thank you, thank you , thank you. Much peace and happiness, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:28:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7112 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:28:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 7103 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:28:26 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:28:26 -0000 Received: from Rainraysor@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vHZVa01911 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:26:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Rainraysor@aol.com Message-ID: <3b970217.244548d3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:26:43 EDT Subject: did someone say first party experience? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Rainraysor@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk my first party was Escape...spring '92?....they were big into Akira and smartdrinks and whistles....it was like fnding a long lost home i had always been looking for... rr From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:29:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7912 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:29:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 7896 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:29:07 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:29:07 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rBAa027823; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:14:30 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <553e5234.244545f6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:14:30 EDT Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + nonPLUR To: stefango@yahoo.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think he means it's more of a REALISTIC party, about the music, not about dressing up like telletubies and running around with a zillion colors on, it has nothing to do with hatred, just a real party about music, not about candy ravers From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:32:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9811 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:32:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9802 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:32:49 -0000 Received: from law-f88.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.151) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:32:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 60876 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 01:32:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414013222.60875.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:32:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR:Happy bday thread oops! Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:32:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Call me reactionary, I was not thinking, just thought it was another fun thread to jot down ones personal info that would snowball into some huge collection of the entire lists bdays. What good that info will or could do is beyond me but I am appologising for the needless spam that I just sent back! DOH sorry, there goes my aries impatients and knee-jerk reactions (gotta have it now) syndrome! Alex.............Dalen Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:39:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15511 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:39:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15502 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:39:08 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:39:08 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rMNVa14850; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:19:32 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <6e059ed1.24454724@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:19:32 EDT Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + nonPLUR To: stefango@yahoo.com, AValverde@northpointcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk mmmmmmmmmmm.... clubs are for guys and girls to meet and have sex, raves SHOULD be about the music, trance, proggressive, jungle and what not..... and for all of u thinking about nikkita, the basement, or spundae, which are about music, im only 15, so i rave :] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:40:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16845 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:40:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 16831 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:40:54 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:40:54 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id oAXGa19585; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:27:41 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:27:41 EDT Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + PLUR sarcasm To: elias_smith@juno.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THIS MAN ELIAS KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT :] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:46:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19153 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:46:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 19010 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:45:58 -0000 Received: from law-f247.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.212) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:45:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 78439 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 01:45:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414014531.78438.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.132 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:45:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.132] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: did someone say first party experience? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:45:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm, mine was a rave called sharon in 1991. Wow, now that was a weird experiance for me, cuz it was so new and all. It was in this huge wherehouse in SF, on Townsend I think (the same place they hold the exotic/erotic ball). The metal walls were reverberating like crazy and I can remember the excitement that brought up in me for this trip into something new! It went from 9pm till 8am I think, but I had to leave earlier cuz I lived in Sac at the time and was really tired! Those were the days when I was so paranoid about drugs that I didn't really take any till last year that is. So I was a sober Raver all the way from 91 to 98, I didn't even smoke cigerettes! Needless to say it was far and few between when I would actually stay for the whole thing! Now I go out every weekend and recently stopped my nafarious activites, well, put on hold shall I say. I was getting tired of those cracked out Sundays! I have better things to do other than sleep all day long! I end up doing that anyway but at least I am somewhat clearheaded about it! Well, this was a nice trip down memory lane, I wonder what ever happened to that pre-rave waiting to get in feeling that I once had? You all know that feeling that I am talking about, where did it go? When did I get used to going to raves? Alex..................Dalen PS: Getting closer to playing out peeps, its a work in progress! Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:48:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21598 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:48:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 21584 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:48:27 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:48:27 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vWOa015519 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:46:30 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <8f26322a.24454d76@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:46:30 EDT Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + nonPLUR To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just an oberservation. If your only 15 how do you know what the club scene is all about? Mmmm, let alone Nikita's? Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:51:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23505 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:51:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23496 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:51:15 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:51:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414015135.26659.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.17.215] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:51:35 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:51:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: BSP: Party in my Pants 2 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everybody, Ron Jeremy productions is pleased to bring you a Party in my Pants. We expect the Party in my Pants to be a very magical event, and we have been very busy preparing for this special party. I mus say that we are very excited about this party, as well any sane person should be. It is fully permitted in a non-virgin location. We are currently only selling one ticket presale, so hurry up and get it, because its going fast! For those of you who werent able to get into Party in my Pants 1, we will put you on the guest list for this very wonderful event. Steve =) PS - I am so bored! === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 01:52:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24307 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 01:52:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 24295 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 01:52:23 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 01:52:23 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vVGKa19569; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:50:37 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <88d90d90.24454e6d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:50:37 EDT Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + nonPLUR To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk mmmmmm maybe cuz i can fake id my way in 18+ and u hear alot about clubs, specially nikkita :] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 02:07:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 485 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 02:07:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 464 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 02:07:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO next-mail.hightrend.com) (209.31.33.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 02:07:17 -0000 Received: from alldigitalclub.com (10.1.1.69 [10.1.1.69]) by next-mail.hightrend.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id GGJAQJX5; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:56:56 -0700 Message-ID: <36EAA44A.641259A4@alldigitalclub.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:45:48 +0000 From: Vitaly Golomb Reply-To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: "Hi!" April 30th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey I know it's a couple of weeks early but I just wanted to spread some new exciting info, so here goes: First of all we've secured an AMAZING new location. No BS, this place is on the border of SF and South SF (close to 3 Com/Candlestick). It has an astonishing view of downtown and the bay. It is not a dirty warehouse but a very very clean, shiny (you'll see what I mean) place. Two rooms, one with a stage (wow you can see the DJays?), and airconditioning system. It is located right next to a Travelodge (we are talking to the hotel to see if we can get a discount for people with ticket stubs, as of now the rooms are about $60) and a Deny's style 24 hour restaurant. Friendly security, nice decorations, lights and sound. A water and juice bar, plus free fruit. And a $12 pre-sale. WOW!!! We'll be anouncing more info as we approach. For now you can check out the line up on the calendar or our info line 415.750.3100 and don't forget about our Grand Extravaganza on May 8th "VORG" (April 30th is just a pre-party). We are so freakin' excited, so I just wanted to share and give you guys something to look forward to! Thanks, Vitaly Golomb, VORG From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 02:09:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1420 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 02:09:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 1404 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 02:09:35 -0000 Received: from web219.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 02:09:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414020938.26607.rocketmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.207] by web219.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:09:38 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:09:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: PAGING FOOLISH FISH To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Foolish Fish, where are you, oh great aquatic one? My sweet boo and myself would like to spend a few days together oceanside where I will be practicing roller blading in my hot pink bikini. We will not be bringing a laptop computer, a cell phone, or a pager. I would feel much better about it if I knew that you were here. Please grace us with your literary talents and your peaceful ways. We all need you. love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 02:18:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5159 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 02:18:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 5147 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 02:18:33 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 02:18:33 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vMVJa25415 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:16:07 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: <44d36bee.24455467@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:16:07 EDT Subject: FOR SALE: 2 Gemini PT-2000s To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk im sellin my Gemini PT-2000 turntables theyre only less then 2 months old and in perfect workin condition i have all the boxes and manuals the reason im sellin is i lost a job recently and need cash im askin $650 OBO for both of em ill throw in a pair of Stanton Groovemasters for $150 (this one's firm) those who are interested can email me back or call at (925) 691-8839 PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 02:20:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6973 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 02:20:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 6952 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 02:20:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO next-mail.hightrend.com) (209.31.33.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 02:20:08 -0000 Received: from alldigitalclub.com (10.1.1.69 [10.1.1.69]) by next-mail.hightrend.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id GGJAQJX7; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:26:38 -0700 Message-ID: <36EAB983.773BB26F@alldigitalclub.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 19:16:20 +0000 From: Vitaly Golomb Reply-To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: "Hi!" April 30th Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey I know it's a couple of weeks early but I just wanted to spread some new exciting info, so here goes: First of all we've secured an AMAZING new location. No BS, this place is on the border of SF and South SF (close to 3 Com/Candlestick). It has an astonishing view of downtown and the bay. It is not a dirty warehouse but a very very clean, shiny (you'll see what I mean) place. Two rooms, one with a stage (wow you can see the DJays?), and airconditioning system. It is located right next to a Travelodge (we are talking to the hotel to see if we can get a discount for people with ticket stubs, as of now the rooms are about $60) and a Deny's style 24 hour restaurant. Friendly security, nice decorations, lights and sound. A water and juice bar, plus free fruit. And a $12 pre-sale. WOW!!! We'll be anouncing more info as we approach. For now you can check out the line up on the calendar or our info line 415.750.3100 and don't forget about our Grand Extravaganza on May 8th "VORG" (April 30th is just a pre-party). We are so freakin' excited, so I just wanted to share and give you guys something to look forward to! Thanks, Vitaly Golomb, VORG From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 02:24:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11166 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 02:24:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11156 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 02:24:41 -0000 Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 02:24:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414022313.26609.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.211] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:23:13 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:23:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: nrr:obvious To: Wayne Radinsky , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You are so funny, Wayne. You always put a smile on my face.love,Julie p.s. keep eating those veggies. --- Wayne Radinsky wrote: > > Julie, I don't know who is asking you for a romantic > relationship, but they are probably just trying to > make up for the people on the list who dumped you > last > fall. love,Wayne > ---------- > >From: Geri Dahl > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: nrr:obvious > >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:38 -0700 (PDT) > > > >I know who is reading my posts. I can also see > where your biases > >currently lie. Interesting. I like to people watch. > I am not > available > >for a romantic relationship. I am married, and my > spouse and I are > >currently engaging in and enjoying a monogamous > relationship. Thank > you > >for your interest just the same. I am > flattered.love,Julie > > > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 02:35:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17671 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 02:35:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 17656 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 02:35:24 -0000 Received: from f19.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 02:35:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 32395 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 02:35:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414023528.32394.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.197.159 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:35:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.197.159] From: "ve anne" To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP: "Hi!" April 30th Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 02:35:27 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh who cares about the location!!! OOoOoOo!!! IS MARS AND MYSTERE GONNA BE THERE?!!?! AND ARE THEY GONNA PLAY THE TITANIC SONG TOO!?!?!? :) From: Vitaly Golomb Reply-To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: BSP: "Hi!" April 30th Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 19:16:20 +0000 Hey I know it's a couple of weeks early but I just wanted to spread some new exciting info, so here goes: First of all we've secured an AMAZING new location. No BS, this place is on the border of SF and South SF (close to 3 Com/Candlestick). It has an astonishing view of downtown and the bay. It is not a dirty warehouse but a very very clean, shiny (you'll see what I mean) place. Two rooms, one with a stage (wow you can see the DJays?), and airconditioning system. It is located right next to a Travelodge (we are talking to the hotel to see if we can get a discount for people with ticket stubs, as of now the rooms are about $60) and a Deny's style 24 hour restaurant. Friendly security, nice decorations, lights and sound. A water and juice bar, plus free fruit. And a $12 pre-sale. WOW!!! We'll be anouncing more info as we approach. For now you can check out the line up on the calendar or our info line 415.750.3100 and don't forget about our Grand Extravaganza on May 8th "VORG" (April 30th is just a pre-party). We are so freakin' excited, so I just wanted to share and give you guys something to look forward to! Thanks, Vitaly Golomb, VORG Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 02:41:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20685 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 02:41:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20656 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 02:40:57 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 02:40:57 -0000 Received: from KidOnix@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id xNKGa17884; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:36:51 -0400 (EDT) From: KidOnix@aol.com Message-ID: <6e061141.24455943@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:36:51 EDT Subject: Re: BSP: "Hi!" April 30th To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: KidOnix@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk when do tickets go on sale??? *Kid Onix* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 03:30:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16575 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 03:30:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 16506 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 03:30:01 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 03:30:01 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vTCCa25416; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:28:09 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:28:09 EDT Subject: Re: Titanic song To: AlexG1029@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i love the titanic song! sure, it's cheesey, but that's what's so great about it!! it's almost hypnotizing when i hear it, especially when it comes in compared to all the noraml beats i hear all night. it's a nice break. ok, i admit it, I LOVE CHEESE!!!!! alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 04:13:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6211 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 04:12:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 6188 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 04:12:56 -0000 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (206.13.28.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 04:12:56 -0000 Received: from fiveartists.com (ppp-206-170-29-66.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.29.66]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id VAA09094 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371414C5.CB5CB2BE@fiveartists.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:08:38 -0700 From: Nemo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SF Raves Subject: Re: My little opinion on TICKLE and newbies... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *huggles to Val* Panduh boi ain't feelin' too good at ALL. *cough* *cough* A N T O N Panduh Boi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 04:29:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11049 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 04:29:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 11034 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 04:29:22 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 04:29:22 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vKVTa18500 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:28:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:28:50 EDT Subject: Re: Titanic song To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i <3 love <3 the titanic song! the first time that my boyfriend and i kissed was at pangea when this song was being spun! so now it has :o) happy :o) memories every time its played!! sorry you guys..i just had to get this in there! :oP love ya all!* ((((hUgS!!)))) *niCOle* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 04:34:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13222 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 04:34:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13200 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 04:34:26 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 04:34:26 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.210] (libya-210.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.210]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA20407; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:34:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:38:59 -0800 To: npm@netwiz.net From: je Subject: Re: BSP: who is Adam X? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >Anyways, how does the Adam X CD sound? Cuz if it sounds anything like the >J.A disk, it's something you can also copy by tape or MP3 and it won't sound >that much worse. Please let us know. (And if you're working for waxtrax/tvt >pls pass this letter on to someone that can make a difference w/r/t the >sound quality.) > Sounds good to me...and no, i don't work for waxtrax! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 04:40:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15538 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 04:40:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 15527 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 04:40:51 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 04:40:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA18838 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:40:49 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [NRR]More Like Oblivious.. In-Reply-To: <19990414022313.26609.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Could we please stop using this list as a vehicle for stuff like this? Not a problem with you, but rather your tendency to post often with matters of a more personal, very off topic nature. Please stay on the list but try to stay more on-topic. This is a rave list. An unmoderated one where we trust the svbscribers to keep themselves close to topic. The more off topic posts there are, the harder it gets to keep up with all the messages, less of which contain what it is we signed up for in the first place. Anything about raves,music, the scene, locations, alternative lifestyles, insomnia, entheogens, piercings, vinyl, keyboards and production gear, glosticks, goa, mysticism, schwa, visuals, generally trippy stuff, PLUR, mixtapes, reviews, gemini vs. technics, mixing, 4sales, BSPs, track ids, recent experiences, party reviews, fashion, beads, promoters, record stores, headphones, artist information, raves in the news, and a whole bunch of other rave related stuff is fine. Oh, and techno. Techno is SO okay. And Juan Atkins... AndyW On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Geri Dahl wrote: -&e->You are so funny, Wayne. You always put a smile on my face.love,Julie -&e->p.s. keep eating those veggies. -&e-> -&e->--- Wayne Radinsky wrote: -&e->> -&e->> Julie, I don't know who is asking you for a romantic -&e->> relationship, but they are probably just trying to -&e->> make up for the people on the list who dumped you -&e->> last -&e->> fall. love,Wayne -&e->> ---------- -&e->> >From: Geri Dahl -&e->> >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org -&e->> >Subject: nrr:obvious -&e->> >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:38 -0700 (PDT) -&e->> > -&e->> >I know who is reading my posts. I can also see -&e->> where your biases -&e->> >currently lie. Interesting. I like to people watch. -&e->> I am not -&e->> available -&e->> >for a romantic relationship. I am married, and my -&e->> spouse and I are -&e->> >currently engaging in and enjoying a monogamous -&e->> relationship. Thank -&e->> you -&e->> >for your interest just the same. I am -&e->> flattered.love,Julie -&e->> > -&e->> -&e->> -&e->> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit -&e->> http://www.msn.com -&e->> -&e-> -&e-> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 04:42:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16723 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 04:42:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 16714 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 04:42:29 -0000 Received: from web109.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 04:42:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414044302.29913.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.105.189.56] by web109.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:43:02 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:43:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Violette Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY To: Naomi Thompson Cc: SF Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Naomi Thompson wrote: > > January: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* > ******JeSsiCa AnD jR > foR > LiFe****** > 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com > 29. > 30. > 31. > February: > 1. > 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net > 3. > 4. > 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > March: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > 31. > April: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send > presents)lol > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER > *i <3 > U* > 27. > 28. > 29. > 30. > May: > 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM > -OR- > MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* > 12. > 13. > 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com > Yeah Baby!! > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, > Cheapcholo@aol.com > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com > 29. > 30. Tyler Johnson > freak01313@yahoo.com > 31. > June: > 1. > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. Chris Violette<=== Neuera16@yahoo.com > 6. > 7. > 8. *jene johnson~ > burlymoose@aol.com* > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com > 18. > 19. > 20. > 21. > 22. > 23. > 24. > 25. > 26. > 27. > === message truncated === From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 04:51:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21138 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 04:51:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 21094 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 04:51:56 -0000 Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.110) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 04:51:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414044928.2538.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.211] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:49:28 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:49:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Stolen items at parties To: Jennifer and Daniel Herron , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk When I to raves, I have been going with a group of friends. We usually make a "camp site", even at indoor parties. We bring pillows and blankets and a very large ugly stuffed animal. Usually, we make our camp right by a wall if there is room to, so that no one can sneak up on us from behind. There are also always one or two of us sitting there at any given time, so I have always felt okay about leaving my backpack or whatever behind, and no one has ever stolen anything from us YET, but sometimes, we have been snagging things off of one another. That is different though, because we are like family. We share with one another quite easily. Incidentally, I always like reading your posts, Jennifer. You are a gentle soul. I learn softness from you. I can be a bit abrasive at times. I always feel lighter after reading what you have to say. I bet your reeaaaaal cute too.love,Julie Jennifer and Daniel Herron wrote: > I keep reading posts about people getting things > stolen. Even last week > a friend had a backpack stolen from right next to > her with a camera in > it and various other valuable items. Some girl > walked up to my friends > and said "Do I know you? Where are you from? You > look familiar..." yaddi > yadda and while she was talking to them someone must > have snuck up > behind them and took their backpacks. Now I think > that is sooo utterly > wrong that people would pull crap like that and take > peoples shit > however we all have to take responsibility for our > own stuff. I carry my > stuff in a small backpack that I try to never ever > take off my back. I > also try to not bring anything valuable. If I lose a > disposable camera > here and there no big deal. I may be bummed cause I > lost some great pics > but I don't have to replace a $400 camera. I don't > bring a wallet, I > don't bring credit cards. Please just be > careful...not everyone is all > PLUR and hugs. > Jennifer aka Chrysallys > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 04:59:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26179 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 04:59:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 26169 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 04:59:35 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 04:59:35 -0000 Received: from geocities.com ([207.92.173.111]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28150; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3714206D.F51BC875@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:58:21 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max McCauley CC: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Some constants in life... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's nice, Max. Keep telling yourself that and eventually, you might actually believe it. I don't think someone wants to go to a rave where the average age is 16 and all these kids should be at home doing their homework, but they are at a rave, fucked up on e and taking up dancing space because they are on the floor all e tarded. Next time i see people on the floor at a rave i am going to kick them and tell them to get up because there is not enough room for them to sit on the floor. =Paul*E*Wog Max McCauley wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > > Thank you, Max... what does being a raver have anything to do with being > > a cand*e kid? Two different things... > > All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares, that's > fair. But, that being said, maybe a lot of the people you used to think > were cool and liked to party got sick of people who were so dedicated to > their cand-e or their junglist schtick or their stinky goa (jk!) that they > forgot that the point was to RAVE RAVE RAVE in the first place, and got > into something else that was a little more accepting. > > > I don't think anyone who wants to party needs to prove themselves, but > > its annoying to see people who can't tell the difference between trance > > and break beats run a muck all over the scene. Everyone is welcome at a > > party, but if one doesn't know anything about a certain sub-culture, > > they should be humble until they realize what is going on. > > Well, I think a lot of us, Jamalski and I in particular, have a different > angle on this. As MC's, it's sort of our purpose to explain what's going > on to people who might not know what a dubplate is and shit. When I first > got into this stuff, I was a blank page, and I sat in channel 44 on vrave > and asked people questions, and asked for URL's so that I could learn some > history, and asked more questions, and eventually found people and > websites that would have the patience to teach me something. I owe them > all so much. And now, since I've gotten to know a bit about this and > that, I feel obligated to share what I know. > > I remember a dude posting to sfraves about two months ago, saying that he > had bought some Prodigy and some Roni Size, and this and that and wanted > to know which was which type of music. I wrote back and tried to explain, > and ended up teaching him what a breakbeat was. It was nice. It made me > feel good, because I remembered going through song after song with channel > 44 on vrave like "OK, this is techstep because it sounds like angry robots > marching over the horizon?" > > I personally would rather be in a party where no one knew the difference > between trance and breakbeat and were enthusiastic and energetic and > positve than a party witha bunch of snotty people who knew everything and > didn't like the wide-eyed BROCKOUTITUDE of the newbies. > > 10-4, > duh, > max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 05:06:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29352 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 05:06:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 29335 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 05:06:28 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 05:06:28 -0000 Received: from geocities.com ([207.92.173.111]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02136; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3714220B.9D4C7AA2@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:05:15 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lara CC: Ravergrl27@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Can someone help? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't watch the clock. I just set the alarm. It's much more efficient. =Paul*E*Wog P.S. I don't like to see myself talk. I just like to complain about everything and make people's life a living hell so everyone can be as miserable as I am. Lara wrote: > > Hi guys! Hi Jeannie !! :) > It looks like the limit's currently set to six, and yes, people do exceed > their limit but after their 6th posts their exceeded limit posts are > bounced back to ME and I can't do a thing about it (and won't, either). > Some people (like Paul) knows that this "limit" ends every day at > midnight, and sometimes are watching their watches with their finger > poised on the "send" button, waiting to post again, (ok maybe not this > extreme but it's quite a silly thing to think about however) and it seems > like there are more posts than 6 in a day. > Some people have alot to say, some people like to see themselves > talk, some people are bored, some people again have alot to say (I do, > sometimes!). So there is a limit for posting, it's currently 6, though I > had thought it was five until I noticed oneday the messages began bouncing > after 6. > Hope that helps! > Love, > Lara:) > > ---- > "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." > -- Oscar Wilde > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I was just wondering if someone can help me find out how many posts a person > > can have in one day.. There are a few on the list that post nonstop. I mean I > > dont mind so much but there is one girl one here that Just posts to > > everything and I think she can make at least some of them private. Especaily > > when she is just directing it to that person only..I guess she needs all the > > attention she can get, but please..... Someone help me out here with this > > question? Thanks =) > > Jeannie > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 05:20:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5423 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 05:20:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5172 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 05:19:59 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 05:19:59 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vJYSa27567 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:19:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <10496202.24457f51@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:19:13 EDT Subject: Re: HApPY BdaY To: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 99-04-13 04:53:26 EDT, you write: << January: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* ******JeSsiCa AnD jR foR LiFe****** 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. February: 1. 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net 3. 4. 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. March: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. April: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send presents)lol 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER *i <3 U* 27. 28. 29. 30. May: 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* 12. 13. 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com 29. 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com 31. June: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com 30. July: 1. 2. 3. 4. <<<> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 05:34:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12184 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 05:34:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 12153 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 05:33:59 -0000 Received: from elephant.zo.com (204.139.9.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 05:33:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (blank@localhost) by elephant.zo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05393 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blank@elephant.zo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:33:55 -0700 (PDT) From: wEirdo To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE:HApPY BdaY In-Reply-To: <3713673F.BF28E2B0@cruinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk January: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* ******JeSsiCa AnD jR foR LiFe****** 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com 29. 30. 31. February: 1. 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net 3. 4. 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. March: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. April: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com(send presents)lol 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER *i <3 U* 27. 28. 29. 30. May: 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* 12. 13. 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, Cheapcholo@aol.com 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com 29. 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com 31. June: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com 30. July: 1. 2. 3. 4. <<<> >> "Smile, it's free." ~Grivo (Bruce McCulloch) in { Kids in the Hall's Brain Candy} From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 05:48:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19050 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 05:48:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 18945 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 05:48:01 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 05:48:01 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (1Cust84.tnt1.sfo1.da.uu.net [208.250.183.84]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA10787; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990413224943.0076bc28@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:49:43 -0700 To: MacBunny From: swati shah Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.19990412183522.006af95c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If anyone else thought that I was implying anything like what follows, I am very sorry. My intentions are the opposite of what this person states. There are some kids who believe that everyone at a rave is on drugs all the time, and there are some kids that will not go to a party without drugs. This is what I am trying to solve. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. Swati At 12:14 PM 4/13/99 -0400, MacBunny wrote: >i'm sorry to sound a little mean about this, but if you think that poeple >on this list and who go to parties need some sort of help to party sober >by asking everyone to "try" going to a party sober or filling out a >survey or sharing their expiriences, then either you've missed the HUGE >crowd of us that actually DON't to drugs or have stopped, or we really >have a huge problem in our scene that i'm just not aware about (and i >hope this isn't the case.) 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Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: BSP: Liberty Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:03:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BE85F9.88B70800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BE85F9.88B70800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LIBERTY: NOW TAKING CREDIT CARD ORDERS ONLINE We've finally got our secure server in place and we're now taking orders = online. If you're new to the list and haven't been to the Liberty site, = please check it out! 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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BE85F9.88B70800-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 06:01:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25678 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 06:01:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 25662 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 06:01:50 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 06:01:50 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.10) id vGYMa04246; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 02:01:16 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <4aa1da2.2445892c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 02:01:16 EDT Subject: Re: Titanic song To: Peanut5367@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk see now if i had an experience like this when i first heard the song, i'd probably love it now. but since i was actually feeling like i was ready to pass out from heat and stress, i had a bad experience. i'll give the song another try...... ~Sami In a message dated 4/13/99 9:29:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Peanut5367@aol.com writes: > i <3 love <3 the titanic song! the first time that my boyfriend and i kissed > was at pangea when this song was being spun! so now it has :o) happy :o) > memories every time its played!! > sorry you guys..i just had to get this in there! :oP > love ya all!* > ((((hUgS!!)))) > *niCOle* > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 06:41:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7693 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 06:41:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 7680 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 06:41:45 -0000 Received: from law-f138.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.201) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 06:41:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 66077 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 06:41:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414064118.66076.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.102 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:41:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.102] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: dat_dj@hotmail.com, andy@saturn5.com, dj_boywonder@hotmail.com, ascend@ix.netcom.com, isaacl@divi.com, Ravergrl27@aol.com, macadio@hotmail.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, X2Nyte@aol.com Subject: BSP : DAYSHINE!!!!! 4.25.99 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:41:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So, here I go again, I am throwing another party, shindig, get your groove on, on a sunday afternoon. . FREE!!!. . . . The idea here is to have kids be safe and listen to house music in a realxed daytime environment. . . It will soon become known as the second sunset!!! I hope. . . Maybe all the kids could detour through this town to make it home and then I and they would be happy. . . So here it is. . . .Harmonics presents: DAYSHINE Sunday April 25 1999 From 12 noon to 4pm Located at Old Courthouse Square in Downtown Santa Rosa 707.571.8747 Bring your good vibes and positive afterglow and come chill out with your dj's Ryan Wilber (NBC, Discovery, Sparkle) Urn (NBC, Harmony, Harmonics, Discovery) Sean Norton (Magik, Bodyrock) These guys will be spining the best sunday beats you could imagine, old school, new school, groovy laid back house for your mellowed out sunday afternoon. . This event is FREE FREE FREE and is all ages in beautiful outside area with a fountain and trees and grassy knolls to chill and hang out by. . . I hope to see you all there smilin' and good viberations rollin' Peace and Love Raoul Trancebaby :) ;p Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 07:06:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15666 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 07:06:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 15654 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 07:06:41 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 07:06:41 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id xUNBa17645; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:04:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:04:36 EDT Subject: Re: BSP: "Hi!" April 30th To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Did you want to give away the location? I know where its at just by your descirption!!!! HEHEHE!!!! That was a easy one!!!! =) You have to make it a little harder on me next time! =P.....I wont tell anyone! GOOD LUCK with the party! HUGs*** Jeannie P.S. Hey sweety are you Russian? I love a good Russian man! ahhhh Ok... Just me being silly!!Yabba Dabba DOO In a message dated 4/13/99 7:35:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, poeie@hotmail.com writes: << Hey I know it's a couple of weeks early but I just wanted to spread some new exciting info, so here goes: First of all we've secured an AMAZING new location. No BS, this place is on the border of SF and South SF (close to 3 Com/Candlestick). It has an astonishing view of downtown and the bay. It is not a dirty warehouse but a very very clean, shiny (you'll see what I mean) place. Two rooms, one with a stage (wow you can see the DJays?), and airconditioning system. It is located right next to a Travelodge (we are talking to the hotel to see if we can get a discount for people with ticket stubs, as of now the rooms are about $60) and a Deny's style 24 hour restaurant. Friendly security, nice decorations, lights and sound. A water and juice bar, plus free fruit. And a $12 pre-sale. WOW!!! We'll be anouncing more info as we approach. For now you can check out the line up on the calendar or our info line 415.750.3100 and don't forget about our Grand Extravaganza on May 8th "VORG" (April 30th is just a pre-party) >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 07:07:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16532 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 07:07:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 16523 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 07:07:31 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 07:07:31 -0000 Received: from geocities.com ([207.92.173.111]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12465 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37143E29.4A2EF29E@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:05:13 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Re: Tickle OD's References: <593f3ec9.24451730@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a perfect example of why we should not allow anyone without an official raving license into these events. They probably OD'd one hit of e because they did not know they were suppose to drink water because they did not know anything and no one decided to tell them to drink water. And it's the fault of the promoters if everyone does not get enough water. Water costs 49 cents at Safeway, why is it $2 at a Tickle? If water was cheaper then we would not have these people ODing. And where are the drug education pamphlets at these all night techno concerts, hu?? Thank you!! =Paul*E*Wog P.S. People need to start getting their acts together before this whole scene implodes on itself. P.P.S. Irresponsible promoters suck! HppyXTC@aol.com wrote: > > I hate to bring up such a morbid subject...but were the two people that OD'd > at Tickle ok? I happened to see both of them (lucky me), and I have been > thinking about them since then. You all said that girl was ok, but what > about the guy? Please everyone, party responsibly. > > Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 07:17:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19167 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 07:17:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 19153 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 07:17:53 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 07:17:53 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24610; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:18:14 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu To: Paul*E*Wog cc: SFRaves Subject: Re: Tickle OD's In-Reply-To: <37143E29.4A2EF29E@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm down to go to Kinko's if you are. : ) ((( l0ve always ))) Nico nico@entic.net http://www.entic.net/~nico On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: > This is a perfect example of why we should not allow anyone without an > official raving license into these events. They probably OD'd one hit of > e because they did not know they were suppose to drink water because > they did not know anything and no one decided to tell them to drink > water. > And it's the fault of the promoters if everyone does not get enough > water. > Water costs 49 cents at Safeway, why is it $2 at a Tickle? > If water was cheaper then we would not have these people ODing. > And where are the drug education pamphlets at these all night techno > concerts, hu?? Thank you!! > > =Paul*E*Wog > > P.S. People need to start getting their acts together before this whole > scene implodes on itself. > > P.P.S. Irresponsible promoters suck! > > HppyXTC@aol.com wrote: > > > > I hate to bring up such a morbid subject...but were the two people that OD'd > > at Tickle ok? I happened to see both of them (lucky me), and I have been > > thinking about them since then. You all said that girl was ok, but what > > about the guy? Please everyone, party responsibly. > > > > Love, Heather > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 07:20:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20042 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 07:20:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 20018 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 07:20:09 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 07:20:09 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D758Z7CR; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:18:58 EDT To: goodvibe@geocities.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:36:41 -0800 Subject: Re: Tickle OD's Message-ID: <19990325.093642.-69343.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-7,9-43 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Water costs $2 at Tickle because it is Second and Jackson. The venue owners take charge of the water bar there. And you are right, there are no drug information booths anymore. I have been trying to find someone that runs one for quite sometime now. No one on the list seemed to know anyone that actually runs one. If you or anybody else has information on a possible booth, share with me please! -galen On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:05:13 -0700 Paul*E*Wog writes: >This is a perfect example of why we should not allow anyone without >an >official raving license into these events. They probably OD'd one hit >of >e because they did not know they were suppose to drink water because >they did not know anything and no one decided to tell them to drink >water. >And it's the fault of the promoters if everyone does not get enough >water. >Water costs 49 cents at Safeway, why is it $2 at a Tickle? >If water was cheaper then we would not have these people ODing. >And where are the drug education pamphlets at these all night techno >concerts, hu?? Thank you!! > >=Paul*E*Wog > >P.S. People need to start getting their acts together before this >whole >scene implodes on itself. > >P.P.S. Irresponsible promoters suck! > >HppyXTC@aol.com wrote: >> >> I hate to bring up such a morbid subject...but were the two people >that OD'd >> at Tickle ok? I happened to see both of them (lucky me), and I have >been >> thinking about them since then. You all said that girl was ok, but >what >> about the guy? Please everyone, party responsibly. >> >> Love, Heather > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 08:24:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16521 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 08:24:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 16513 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 08:24:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 08:24:44 -0000 Received: from geocities.com ([207.92.173.111]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20233; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3714507A.36425849@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:23:22 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: n i c o CC: SFRaves Subject: Re: Tickle OD's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Alrights. Let's do this!!! Kinkos it is... =Paul*E*Wog n i c o wrote: > > I'm down to go to Kinko's if you are. : ) > > ((( l0ve always ))) > > Nico > > nico@entic.net > http://www.entic.net/~nico > > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > > This is a perfect example of why we should not allow anyone without an > > official raving license into these events. They probably OD'd one hit of > > e because they did not know they were suppose to drink water because > > they did not know anything and no one decided to tell them to drink > > water. > > And it's the fault of the promoters if everyone does not get enough > > water. > > Water costs 49 cents at Safeway, why is it $2 at a Tickle? > > If water was cheaper then we would not have these people ODing. > > And where are the drug education pamphlets at these all night techno > > concerts, hu?? Thank you!! > > > > =Paul*E*Wog > > > > P.S. People need to start getting their acts together before this whole > > scene implodes on itself. > > > > P.P.S. Irresponsible promoters suck! > > > > HppyXTC@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > I hate to bring up such a morbid subject...but were the two people that OD'd > > > at Tickle ok? I happened to see both of them (lucky me), and I have been > > > thinking about them since then. You all said that girl was ok, but what > > > about the guy? Please everyone, party responsibly. > > > > > > Love, Heather > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 08:29:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18229 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 08:29:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 18220 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 08:29:34 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 08:29:34 -0000 Received: from geocities.com ([207.92.173.111]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20076; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3714513D.E654A35A@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:26:37 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: the town drunk CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Tickle OD's References: <19990325.093642.-69343.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn Nomad Interactive people!!! Charging $2 for water!!!! Scandalous... I don't know anything about a drug information booth either. It sucks. I think they had one at the Gathering in December of 1997 at 85th & Baldwin. That was the last time I saw one. =Paul*E*Wog the town drunk wrote: > > Water costs $2 at Tickle because it is Second and Jackson. The venue > owners take charge of the water bar there. And you are right, there are > no drug information booths anymore. I have been trying to find someone > that runs one for quite sometime now. No one on the list seemed to know > anyone that actually runs one. If you or anybody else has information on > a possible booth, share with me please! > -galen > > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:05:13 -0700 Paul*E*Wog > writes: > >This is a perfect example of why we should not allow anyone without > >an > >official raving license into these events. They probably OD'd one hit > >of > >e because they did not know they were suppose to drink water because > >they did not know anything and no one decided to tell them to drink > >water. > >And it's the fault of the promoters if everyone does not get enough > >water. > >Water costs 49 cents at Safeway, why is it $2 at a Tickle? > >If water was cheaper then we would not have these people ODing. > >And where are the drug education pamphlets at these all night techno > >concerts, hu?? Thank you!! > > > >=Paul*E*Wog > > > >P.S. People need to start getting their acts together before this > >whole > >scene implodes on itself. > > > >P.P.S. Irresponsible promoters suck! > > > >HppyXTC@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> I hate to bring up such a morbid subject...but were the two people > >that OD'd > >> at Tickle ok? I happened to see both of them (lucky me), and I have > >been > >> thinking about them since then. You all said that girl was ok, but > >what > >> about the guy? Please everyone, party responsibly. > >> > >> Love, Heather > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 08:53:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23244 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 08:53:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 23232 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 08:53:02 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 08:53:02 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vDUWa17883 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:52:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: <9f1ff307.2445b141@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:52:17 EDT Subject: Re: HApPY BdaY To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/14/99 0:20:27 AM EST, Kalika1196@aol.com writes: << Subj: Re: HApPY BdaY Date: 4/14/99 0:20:27 AM EST From: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Reply-to: Kalika1196@aol.com To: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org In a message dated 99-04-13 04:53:26 EDT, you write: << January: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 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From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 15:54:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12632 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 15:54:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 12624 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 15:54:25 -0000 Received: from web708.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 15:54:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414155446.4078.rocketmail@web708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.11] by web708.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:54:46 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:54:46 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: the great gatsby '99...or, Kids That Dont Pay Rent. To: Paul*E*Wog , leslie.ayres@excite.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Paul*E*Wog wrote: > I know this leslie, but I look good. That's the > difference. And my fur > pants costs $90 and 8 hours on the sewing machine. I > can call myself a > cand*e kid because I put in daaaays of effort into > making one outfit. > I feel annoyed when some kid with a pacifier and > some nasty vic vapo > rubb masks starts calling himself/herself a candy > kid just because they > have a t shirt that said plur on it and are wearing > some crappy ass > beads with no color patterns at all. huh, i'm gonna have to record and file away that little observation and remember it the next time i let strangers get to me too much. and i also gotta congradulate Paul on being able to perfectly define what it means to be petty and privleged in america today. the world is burning while snotty kids that should know better are popping pills and getting in hissy fits over fashion statements. rave on - and this whole argument over 'how old school are you?' is stupid. if you're down, you're down. it's in your walk, it's in your eyes, you don't have to say a word 'cause it's stating the obvious. it's like getting into a debate about how many fingers you have on your hands. if you're old school you're centered enough in who you are and how you fit into this universe not to feel annoyed or threatened by youngsters having fun at a party. you welcome it; you crave young blood that bring fresh moves to the party or fresh vocabulary skills to thier posts, 'cause it can get pretty lonely being the only cool person on the dance floor. anyone who's been to 1015 on a weekend can attest to that fact. in parties, as in life, there have been people that i've been in the same room with only a handful of times that have had a profound effect on my personality. there are other people that i've been seeing around 3 times a week for the past 4+ years that always have the same misserable expressions and dark clouds hanging over them. it's not how much time you've put in, it's what you bring to the table. that's what counts. > > It's purely a fashion problem, as I see it. > > And i know about being fucked up at 2nd & Jackson. > :) > > I just get annoyed when I see trendy little high > school kids at parties, > and don't see ANYONE that I know from back in the > day. I may not be some > old skool grumpy drunk raver (like Andy W), but I > still know what's up > and most of those kids could not spell MDMA if you > asked them to. > > I still don't think I got my point accross, but the > only reason parties > suck now is because all the people that are fun to > party with. Stopped > partying and all you get are these booring and > unimaginative kids from > high school that have been going to parties for 3 > months that will most > likely OD on GHB by the end of the year. > > Thank you > > =Paul*E*Wog > > leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > > > here are some things that seem to never change... > > > > 1. Paul-E-Wog ... always the same little > loudmouthed shit-stirrer... only > > the funniest part, to me anyway, Paul, is that now > you're bitching about > > little candy kid ravers who you think have no > originality... hey, they're > > just following the trends you helped to set (and > are still pursuing) ... i > > know it feels like now *you're* the old-skool > raver, and they're the > > wanna-be's... but you're fooling yourself, Paul. > what's really happening is > > that you're looking at *yourself* when you see > these kids. believe me, > > they're going through exactly what you have (even > to the details of being > > f*ks up at 2nd & Jackson). let them have their > experience, and move forward > > with your efforts to become the grownup we really > trust is inside just > > waiting to bust out... i have all the faith in > the world you can do it!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 16:34:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9486 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 16:34:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 9470 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 16:34:25 -0000 Received: from stinger-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO stinger.excite.com) (198.3.99.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 16:34:25 -0000 Received: from speedy.excite.com ([199.172.152.78]) by stinger.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990414163337.IXLR15757.stinger@speedy.excite.com>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:33:37 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: "Paul*E*Wog" , "Max McCauley" Cc: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Some constants in life... Message-Id: <924107616.22552.554@excite.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:33:36 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk paul-e-wog said.. > I don't think someone wants to go to a rave where the average age is 16 > and all these kids should be at home doing their homework, but they are > at a rave, fucked up on e and taking up dancing space because they are > on the floor all e tarded. i'm sorry paul, can you tell us again... are you 17 now? oooohhh.... getting awfully cranky in your old age, aren't you? maybe you even turned 18??? wow!! come on, get real.... and every time you act like you're not one of these kids on this list, i'm going to publicly remind you and everyone else that i have fresh memories of you just this way, the e-tarded candy kid... one of the greatest dangers in life, my young friend, is thinking that you are so very different from other people... and this particular thread of you acting like you're not a teenaged candy kid is pretty ridiculous. just think of it as my personal public service to sfraves... and when you stop, i'll stop. (tough) love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 17:16:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4731 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 17:16:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 4716 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 17:16:41 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 17:16:41 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA21653; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:33:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA20294; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:33:51 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com cc: stefango@yahoo.com, AValverde@northpointcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: total bs: 66MHz + nonPLUR In-Reply-To: <6e059ed1.24454724@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmmm... so you're 15. so how would you know about the club scene. maybe you've been to places like the paladium and such, and i would agree with you that most poeple's motives are to meet poeple and have sex, but when you refer to the club scene in sf, most poeple are talking about 21 & up clubs. and i don't think everyone goes to meet guys or girls to have sex. i sure don't, most of my friends sure don't, most of the poeple i meet sure don't. i think this is just another case of someone making a generalization about something they really don't know about. the club scene here is pumpin. i love going to clubs and listening to music, and dancing and having a good time. i do the same at parties too, but they have two different environments, that is the only difference. and maybe the difference in environment has to do with the age of poeple going, and the fact that not everyone at clubs are into the sterotypical rave look/attitude like most poeple at parties are. i find more diversity at clubs, and i like that, but i also find a better group energy at parties, and more excitement. i like that too. much love, amber On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: > > mmmmmmmmmmm.... clubs are for guys and girls to meet and have sex, raves > SHOULD be about the music, trance, proggressive, jungle and what not..... and > for all of u thinking about nikkita, the basement, or spundae, which are > about music, im only 15, so i rave :] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 17:47:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20526 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 17:47:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 20496 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 17:47:37 -0000 Received: from law-f230.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 17:47:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 8437 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 17:47:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414174710.8435.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.116 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:47:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.116] From: "michael waldren" To: jawthepixieman@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:47:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you are so bad.Everyone is telling you to stop and yet you persist. I love it, it is exactly what i would do.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Thank you for the tapes, i havent received them yet but thanx anyways, Love you and miss you lots. "your everyday junglist" Mikey >From: "JASON BRANCH" >To: NThompson@pgmusa.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:55:58 PDT > > > > >>From: Naomi Thompson >>To: "'RobinT'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY >>Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 -0700 >> >> >> January: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* >>******JeSsiCa AnD jR >> foR >> LiFe****** >> 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> February: >> 1. >> 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> March: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> April: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com (send >>presents)lol >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >>LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER >> *i <3 >> U* >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> May: >> 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- >> MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah Baby!! >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, >>Cheapcholo@aol.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com >> 29. >> 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com >> 31. >> June: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com >> 30. >> July: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. <<<> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. CaSaNdRa MISTEASER@AOL.COM >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. megan~babyG91466@aol.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. *Kelly ~ Tootsie500@aol.com* >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. *Katie- HowieLuva1@aol.com* *mike >>johnson~ >> herbyhynde@aol.com* >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> August: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. ~~~Samantha~~~ Samm1687@aol.com >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. ~~Shannon~~Shanson446@aol.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> September: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21.Geeta-Shelex1963@aol.com >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. GrLstLkLy2@aol.com<~~~ Girl least likely 2 >> 25. LuV3AbLeZz@aol.com *YaY* >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> October: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. CUTTIE76@AOL.COM -----<-----<--- @ sEe >>Ya ArOuND >> =0) >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11.Gloria glory1011@webtv.net >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. Matthew Ferrell Kraze21@aol.com >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> November: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >> 21. >> 22.Lady Odyssey... LdOdyssey@aol.com >> 23. >> 24. >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. Erin* Lucky66343@aol.com >> 28. >> 29. >> 30. >> December: >> 1. >> 2. >> 3. >> 4. >> 5. >> 6. >> 7. >> 8. >> 9. >> 10. >> 11. >> 12. *marge~ crazy8dazy@aol.com* >> 13. >> 14. >> 15. >> 16. >> 17. >> 18. >> 19. >> 20. >>Jessica~AlfLuvR15@aol.com~Alf8mycat@yahoo.com >> 21. >> 22. >> 23. >> 24. Jamie Welty ~Welt2002@aol.com Nicole >>Welty >> ~Nicol2402@aol.com >> 25. >> 26. >> 27. >> 28. ODIE ~ ODIEMAD@AOL.COM >> 29. >> 30. >> 31. >> Please fill it out! >> >> >> >> > > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 17:52:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26739 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 17:52:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 26728 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 17:52:40 -0000 Received: from law-f128.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.191) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 17:52:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 9220 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 17:52:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414175212.9219.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:52:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: akp2@duke.edu, swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:52:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why would you discourage anyone from encouraging people to go to parties sober? You need not take offence to what swati is doing and trying to promote in our community of ravers--its completely positive and very helpful for the scene. i know swati well and her intentions are very positve and she cares a lot about the scene. all of the things you mentioned about getting high off of the music and the scene and people w/out the drugs--ive heard swati say it all and ive also seen her say it to kids who don't ever party sober. im glad that you are the type of person who goes to parties sober and im glad you know a lot of people who do as well. i also know a lot of sober partiers and often am one myself. you *cannot* deny that there are a shit load of people who do not know how to party sober though or think that thats what being at a party is all about. the worst part is that many of these kids are so new to the scene and have never been to a party sober. these are the kids that she is targeting with her sobriety project. she is also just trying to find out where people are coming from in terms of partying and drug use. many have never done anything at a party and some have never gone sober--the spectrum is complete in our scene. its all about learning and education. keep positive. love and happiness sarah >From: MacBunny >To: swati shah >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:14:16 -0400 (EDT) > >i'm sorry to sound a little mean about this, but if you think that poeple >on this list and who go to parties need some sort of help to party sober >by asking everyone to "try" going to a party sober or filling out a >survey or sharing their expiriences, then either you've missed the HUGE >crowd of us that actually DON't to drugs or have stopped, or we really >have a huge problem in our scene that i'm just not aware about (and i >hope this isn't the case.) most of my friends, including myself, have >done our expirimenting in the past, and i'm not going to get down on >anyone for that, that is just a normal part of growing up. but >taking expirimentation too far to reach addiction is one other thing. >maybe i'm lucky to have a group of friends who have decided that drugs >are boring when over done (just like i have.) maybe the amount of druged >up kids, e-ing balls and rolling on the floor mask all of us "sober" >ravers. i put that word in quotes because it is all relative. honestly, >i don't NEED drugs to feel high. i've learned to do that just fine on my >own. i still feel high as fuck when i'm at a party! but maybe that's >off the music, my excitement, the energy of everyone around me. everyone >is going to go through their phase of trying drugs and expiramenting, >especially when they first start partying, and even after that poeple >will still do stuff occasionally (this is what i've noticed among MANY >poeple i've talked to, i'm not just trying to make a generalization of >everyone in the scene because of course there are exceptions.) i guess >if you're ready to party sober, then go for it! there are many of us out >there that do, but if you still like getting high, then just be careful, >and remember that when you come down, there are going to be real life >responibilities you will have to face, like school or work, so just enjoy >your free time wisely. > >much love, >amber > > > >On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, swati shah wrote: >> >> Alright, this is it. This is your last chance to help me with Project >> Bliss. Just to remind you, this is my project to encourage kids to go to a >> party sober. I feel that every raver should be able to go to a party sober. >> And in my definition, marijuana doesn't count. I'm not saying that everyone >> should be sober all the time, but give yourself the choice to take >> something or not. No one should miss a party because they don't want to be >> sober. Its almost a skill, to focus on the music and the vibe rather than >> on just getting as fucked up as possible. but the music is there, and the >> people are there, to get you as high or higher than anything, if only you >> allow it. >> >> So, this is how you can help me. >> >> 1) If you've never been to a party sober, try it once. Lose yourself to >> the music. And then, email me the next day with your experience. >> >> 2) If you have been going to parties sober, write me an email about your >> first sober party, or any experiences you have that you want to share. >> Write to me about your thoughts on the connections between raves and drugs, >> and how you see the relationship evolving through your experiences. >> >> 3) Everyone, fill out my survey that is attached at the end of this email >> and send it back to me. Its just about how often you rave, and how often >> you use certain drugs. Feel free to share any stories you have with me, I >> love them all. >> >> Of course, everything will be kept confidential. I understand the fragility >> of some of the issues discussed, and only I will know who responded how. >> Security is not a problem. Thanks to all who have already responded to me, >> and to all of you who will, I hope. >> >> Love, >> Swati >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, >is the characteristic of one who knows." > >amber perry-mcquown > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu >amber@earthling.net >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 17:53:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27611 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 17:53:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 27592 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 17:53:51 -0000 Received: from law-f65.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.128) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 17:53:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 90648 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 17:53:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414175324.90647.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.116 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:53:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.116] From: "michael waldren" To: akp2@duke.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: RE:HApPY BdaY Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:53:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you wanna know why, i will tell you why. Because you guys are so busy posting about how much of a hassle it is that we feel like bugging the ish out of you. It is a b-day reply which means it would have been over in 24 hours, now we have to drag this on for days. Happy birthday again Robin. "your everyday junglist" Mikey >From: MacBunny >To: "Valverde, Andrew" >CC: "'mercutio@cloudfactory.org'" ,Joaqman , sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: RE:HApPY BdaY >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:52:59 -0400 (EDT) > >why doesn't everyone send their b-days to the originator of this post, >and then he/she can send the complete list to sfraves one time, so we are >not getting all this repeated e-mail. i'm not trying to rain on >anoybody's parade, but if all 400 of us sent this happy b-day list to >sfraves i think we'd all be getting annoyed. and no, i am not a tirant, >just another time that you should think before you post to the entire list. > > >much love, >amber > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, >is the characteristic of one who knows." > >amber perry-mcquown > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu >amber@earthling.net >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 18:02:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4348 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 18:02:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 4234 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 18:01:32 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 18:01:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414175942.12565.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.200.140] by web4; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:59:42 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:59:42 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Review: DJ Lee at Funktion To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Got to the top and Noel was spinning. Good, if not a bit subdued. He heated up as his set progressed... probably because Lee was a half hour late. Only got to hear a half-hour of Lee, but he was solid. Good techy tracks, lots of virus-type sounds. Max was on the mic and having a good time. The way he calls for a rewind is beautiful. I will attempt a reenactment: < dj Lee drops a bomb track > < crowd whoops > Max: What? what? wha...wha...wha..what? what? < Lee rewinds > ok, guess you had to be there. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 18:33:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2109 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 18:33:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 2088 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 18:33:30 -0000 Received: from law-f142.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 18:33:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 70870 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 18:33:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414183303.70868.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.116 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:32:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.116] From: "michael waldren" To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, jawthepixieman@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:32:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am sorry jawthepixieman this was supposed to go to Naomi thompson. I still love you though, it is just that i love her more. junglist mikey >From: "michael waldren" >To: jawthepixieman@hotmail.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:47:07 PDT > >you are so bad.Everyone is telling you to stop and yet you persist. >I love it, it is exactly what i would do.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Thank you for >the tapes, i havent received them yet but thanx anyways, Love you and >miss you lots. > >"your everyday junglist" >Mikey > > >>From: "JASON BRANCH" >>To: NThompson@pgmusa.com >>CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY >>Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:55:58 PDT >> >> >> >> >>>From: Naomi Thompson >>>To: "'RobinT'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>Subject: RE: HApPY BdaY >>>Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:48:50 -0700 >>> >>> >>> January: >>> 1. >>> 2. >>> 3. >>> 4. >>> 5. >>> 6. >>> 7. >>> 8. >>> 9. >>> 10. >>> 11. >>> 12. JeSsiCa*QtL1LaNgEL* >>>******JeSsiCa AnD jR >>> foR >>> LiFe****** >>> 13. Daisy..... @ DA1SYANGEL.com >>> 14. >>> 15. >>> 16. >>> 17. >>> 18. >>> 19. >>> 20. >>> 21. >>> 22. >>> 23. >>> 24. >>> 25. >>> 26. >>> 27. >>> 28. Robin T. robint@cruinc.com >>> 29. >>> 30. >>> 31. >>> February: >>> 1. >>> 2.Maria b-rokluva@webtv.net >>> 3. >>> 4. >>> 5. RoNaLd A.K.A Rebels7564@aol.COM >>> 6. >>> 7. >>> 8. >>> 9. >>> 10. >>> 11. Naomi Thompson Naomi0211@aol.com >>> 12. >>> 13. >>> 14. >>> 15. >>> 16. >>> 17. >>> 18. >>> 19. >>> 20. >>> 21. >>> 22. >>> 23. >>> 24. >>> 25. >>> 26. >>> 27. >>> 28. >>> 29. >>> March: >>> 1. >>> 2. >>> 3. >>> 4. >>> 5. >>> 6. >>> 7. >>> 8. >>> 9. >>> 10. >>> 11. >>> 12. >>> 13. >>> 14. >>> 15. >>> 16. >>> 17. >>> 18. >>> 19. >>> 20. >>> 21. >>> 22. >>> 23. >>> 24. >>> 25. >>> 26. >>> 27. >>> 28. >>> 29. >>> 30. >>> 31. >>> April: >>> 1. >>> 2. >>> 3. >>> 4. >>> 5. KATIE~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~af32gal@aol.com >(send >>>presents)lol >>> 6. >>> 7. >>> 8. >>> 9. >>> 10. >>> 11. >>> 12. >>> 13. >>> 14. >>> 15. >>> 16. Shaun............cypriss911@aol.com >>> 17. >>> 18. >>> 19. >>> 20. >>> 21. >>> 22. >>> 23. >>> 24. >>> 25. >>> 26. >>>LinDa...........*TwEEtZ*...TwEEtY7951......hi wALtER >>> *i <3 >>> U* >>> 27. >>> 28. >>> 29. >>> 30. >>> May: >>> 1. Sara Carter bsb20@webtv.net >>> 2. >>> 3. >>> 4. >>> 5. >>> 6. >>> 7. >>> 8. >>> 9. >>> 10. >>> 11. NATASHA *~*~*EXOTICA NA@AOL.COM -OR- >>> MZZREBEL16@AOL.COM~*~*~* >>> 12. >>> 13. >>> 14. Greg Coll, 19, MIB271@aol.com Yeah >Baby!! >>> 15. >>> 16. >>> 17. >>> 18. >>> 19. >>> 20. Anthony Allen Fraijo, 15, >>>Cheapcholo@aol.com >>> 21. >>> 22. >>> 23. >>> 24. >>> 25. >>> 26. >>> 27. >>> 28. Jenn - KaNdeE KlD@aol.com >>> 29. >>> 30. Tyler Johnson freak01313@yahoo.com >>> 31. >>> June: >>> 1. >>> 2. >>> 3. >>> 4. >>> 5. >>> 6. >>> 7. >>> 8. *jene johnson~ burlymoose@aol.com* >>> 9. >>> 10. >>> 11. >>> 12. >>> 13. >>> 14. >>> 15. >>> 16. >>> 17. Kyle Welty~Stunner023@aol.com >>> 18. >>> 19. >>> 20. >>> 21. >>> 22. >>> 23. >>> 24. >>> 25. >>> 26. >>> 27. >>> 28. >>> 29. Erin (15) vdb15@yahoo.com >>> 30. >>> July: >>> 1. >>> 2. >>> 3. >>> 4. <<<Rel3eL@aol.com >>> 5. >>> 6. >>> 7. >>> 8. >>> 9. >>> 10. >>> 11. >>> 12. 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Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 18:40:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8125 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 18:40:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 8103 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 18:40:49 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 18:40:49 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vABBa20343 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:40:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <14ba9784.24463b0a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:40:10 EDT Subject: man in the moon $ = better tickle? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: Pogobee@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, i'll admit i haven't been reading all the tickle reviews. From what i heard/read it seems to have been a great/blah party depending on who you talk to. i really only have two questions reguarding the entire matter. Wasn't the money from all six Man in the Moons supposed to go towards making Tickle 3 the Extravaganza it was advertised as? Did anyone see improvements at Tickle 3 compared to past tickles? i wasn't there so i wouldn't know how great it was. i also don't know the costs of flying djs in from LA and Las Vegas. i do know tons of money went towards the making of Tickle 3. i'm just curious if anyone can give me feedback regaurding the matter.... -pogo From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 18:45:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12046 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 18:45:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 12030 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 18:45:32 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 18:45:32 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vMPVa20332 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:44:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: <464c94d4.24463c2b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:44:59 EDT Subject: enjoy the sun today! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: Pogobee@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk birds are chirping, the sun's shining and i'm barefoot i think it's spring... :) hope everyone makes the most of today's beautiful weather. -- pogo From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 18:59:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22891 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 18:59:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 22866 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 18:59:51 -0000 Received: from law-f83.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.146) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 18:59:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 19081 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 18:59:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414185924.19080.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:59:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: Pogobee@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: enjoy the sun today! Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:59:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sun is shining, weather is sweet, makes me want to move...my dancing feet. love and happiness sarah >From: Pogobee@aol.com >Reply-To: Pogobee@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: enjoy the sun today! >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:44:59 EDT > >birds are chirping, the sun's shining and i'm barefoot > >i think it's spring... :) > >hope everyone makes the most of today's beautiful weather. > >-- pogo Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:08:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28405 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:08:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28368 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:08:10 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:08:10 -0000 Received: from shell.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA09722; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904141908.MAA09722@mail.netwiz.net> To: Pogobee@aol.com Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: enjoy the sun today! In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:44:59 -0400 Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:08:06 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > birds are chirping, the sun's shining and i'm barefoot > > i think it's spring... :) > > hope everyone makes the most of today's beautiful weather. Fuck that. I've got a huge pile of unsorted bills, a screenful of turbotax, and an unfinished form 6969 "time-value of bartered services incurred via stud-fees during cat-breeding season"... Birds are chirping? Do I have to pay the "unfetterd natural sounds of nature tax" too? I hear nature is now a hard-working government service, but that's just a preparation for the air being a government service. I sure hope the squirrels don't go postal on us. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:10:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 338 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:10:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 29912 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:09:47 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:09:47 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vNFVa07519 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:08:58 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <84a9e1e3.244641ca@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:08:58 EDT Subject: Re: man in the moon $ = better tickle? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dj's from Las Vegas? Everytime Ive been to Las Vegas there are always out of town Dj's spinning. Where in the world are the local Dj's there hiding? Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:13:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5153 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:13:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 5120 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:13:41 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:13:41 -0000 Received: from shell.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA10214; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904141911.MAA10214@mail.netwiz.net> To: "michael waldren" cc: akp2@duke.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: HApPY BdaY In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:53:09 -0700 Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:11:22 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > you wanna know why, i will tell you why. Because you guys are so busy > posting about how much of a hassle it is that we feel like bugging > the ish out of you. It is a b-day reply which means it would have > been over in 24 hours, now we have to drag this on for days. great. so glad you joined the list. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:14:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6027 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:14:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 6013 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:14:30 -0000 Received: from war.ocf.berkeley.edu (root@128.32.191.89) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:14:30 -0000 Received: from [128.48.189.193] (kakoka.ucop.edu [128.48.189.193]) by war.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12967 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:14:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gta@mail.ocf.berkeley.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:13:47 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Gabriel Alvaro Subject: Wanted: Sound System or Components Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey all out there in SFRaverland. I'm endeavouring to build a sound system from the ground up. I imagine the total budget for such a project to be around $2k (which is low, I know). I'm trying to save money by buying used cabs, amps, mixer, etc. 1st. Any opinions on components, like what I should obtain as new and what's OK to obtain used? (I have a feeling buying used subwoofer cabs is not a good idea.) Please share your opinions on this. 2nd. Do you have any soundsytem components e.g. amps, cabs, mixer, eq, etc. you wish to sell? If so, email me privately please. Peace, -Gabe From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:21:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12286 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:21:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12259 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:21:19 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:21:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414192449.5836.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:24:49 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:24:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: man in the moon $ = better tickle? To: Pogobee@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for bringing that up, I was wondering that too. How were the decorations? The last and only tickle I attended didnt have any decorations,visuals, How was the decor? What about FREE water? I know T&J raised, there should have been free water bottles, not one water cooler that runs out in 10 minutes. A case costs $5 at Cosco, thats half the price that each person paid to get in just one of the MITM parties. If they took just $500 their profit, they could have handed out free water all night at Tickle. $500 is nothing considering they threw six parties at $10 a head. Then still charged $20 for tickle. Its not like I am trying to start any kind of problems. *** i am no kind of promoter, not even close to it, so i am not trying to act like a know it all, I have no idea the costs of parties, and all the details. But I have attended PLENTY of parties where free water was given out all night, the cost of admission was less, and there wasnt 6 fundraisers to raise money for it! I hate to moan and groan and I know this has been brought up before, but I am just thinking about it, and it doesnt make sense.... ponderin' away. JB --- Pogobee@aol.com wrote: > ok, i'll admit i haven't been reading all the tickle > reviews. From what i > heard/read it seems to have been a great/blah party > depending on who you talk > to. > > i really only have two questions reguarding the > entire matter. Wasn't the > money from all six Man in the Moons supposed to go > towards making Tickle 3 > the Extravaganza it was advertised as? Did anyone > see improvements at Tickle > 3 compared to past tickles? > > i wasn't there so i wouldn't know how great it was. > i also don't know the > costs of flying djs in from LA and Las Vegas. i do > know tons of money went > towards the making of Tickle 3. i'm just curious if > anyone can give me > feedback regaurding the matter.... > > -pogo > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:23:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13449 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:23:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 13401 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:23:24 -0000 Received: from law-f237.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.202) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:23:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 89434 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 19:22:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414192257.89433.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.116 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:22:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.116] From: "michael waldren" To: npm@netwiz.net, chocolate976@hotmail.com Cc: akp2@duke.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: HApPY BdaY Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:22:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey niels , I remember you. Arent you the one who was talking all that ish on how i was, or how i was that and then i just didnt hear from you. God it is great to hear from you again, where you been buddy. Hell yes, it is great to be on this list. And just to let you know this argument is personalized, because those are my homies you are telling to shut the F*ck up. Excuse the extreme use of the ghetto slang, we know how that makes you feel. I will try to curve my habit K. Happy Birthday Robin. i love you too Naomi!!!!!!! What is up Markis, don't forget to post a birthday shout out to Robin. "your everyday junglist" Mikey >From: "Niels P. Mayer" >Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net >To: "michael waldren" >CC: akp2@duke.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: HApPY BdaY >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:11:22 -0700 > >> you wanna know why, i will tell you why. Because you guys are so busy >> posting about how much of a hassle it is that we feel like bugging >> the ish out of you. It is a b-day reply which means it would have >> been over in 24 hours, now we have to drag this on for days. > >great. so glad you joined the list. > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-= Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:31:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21000 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:31:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20990 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:31:42 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:31:42 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vVSWa02490 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:30:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:30:16 EDT Subject: Being sober..at a rave To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: Oct1faith@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello, A couple of time I have read on this list about people being judge badly because they were sober at a rave. I think it is kind of funny that this behavior is happening at a party were PLUR is the slogan. Anyway I do feel their pain. I been apart of this scene for years, an I took my first E about 2 years ago. YES 2 years ago. I been going to parties an rave,full moons,whatever SOBER for 14 years. An it seem like if your not apart of the "drug taking enlighten crowd" then you are missing out on something. SO I GUESS THE NEXT ? IS WHAT AM I MISSING my sense being stimulated by the lights, music an visuals 1.well, I guess that is true....if you are uptight an hardheaded an don't want to let go an have fun. There are some people like that and an E might help them but good friends or old raver or club head can help them by finding those people"which would be easy because they stick out like a sore tumb" an explain to them why it look an sound the way it does. 2. Also I think another good thing about being sober at a parties is that you can watch out for your friends. you know what I am talking about...those friends who go a little over board with the drugs an need a SOBER person to take care of them. Also watching them acting a fool is sometime more fun than the party itself. I think that everybody should go to a party sober. As a matter of fact,put your favorite party an/or DJs to the SOBER TEST . yes , if they can make you feel happy an free of problems, than they are TRULY your Favorite. I kknow a good DJ when they make me dance to music I don't like or understand(Jungle, Trance) or a good light show when I am staring at them for 30min thinking DAM this is cool. When I am HIGH this is easy to do but when I am sober.....well... than you better work me baby =) If you can't go to a parties sober than ask yourself *****WHY***** why can't you be sober an enjoy this scene? Are you in this scene for the Drugs/or if you weren't HIGH would you hang out with these people? I know i would...good an bad. These are questions I ask people before I invite them to be apart of my Rave/club world. peace, Blackstone From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:32:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21769 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:32:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 21761 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:32:44 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:32:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414192622.23095.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by attach1; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:26:22 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:26:22 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Quick thoughts on The Top To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just going last night in my head, and I realized again why I am so down with the DnB scene. It was awesome to be down with a crowd that had so little pretention. There were haight street hipsters, jungle dj's, rastas, latinas, japanese tourists... everyone was dancing together and loving the music. I can't remember the last time I saw the Top SO packed and there were still lots of places to sit in the bar area. People were there to dance! It reminded me of the FIRST jungle party I went to here...also at the Top in April of '96. WHAT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR! how sad that I sense the contrast... -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:40:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25052 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:40:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 25032 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:40:43 -0000 Received: from table.jps.net (madhav@206.170.168.217) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:40:43 -0000 Received: (from madhav@localhost) by table.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07017; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: madhav@table.jps.net Message-Id: <199904141940.MAA07017@table.jps.net> Subject: New 2 SF scene-- lookin 4 parties To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: madhav@table.jps.net () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I've been doin the East Coast scene since '92, but haven't been to a party in a while-- and I haven't been in the SF Bay area for long... anxious to get into the local scene... Can anyone suggest some good 21+ parties coming up? I like Drum N Bass, Trance, hardcore... Peace, -Madhav a.k.a. "Mo" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:41:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25983 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:41:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 25831 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:41:05 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:41:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414194431.11977.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:44:31 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Quick thoughts on The Top To: SCiEnCe , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > People were there to dance! Its amazing isnt it? The D&B scene. I get caught up in the music when I am dancing, and a lot of times I stop, look around me, watch the entire place just go off, and SMILE. and then i begin to wonder how the hell anyone could even resist jungle, but i am glad some do =) Luv, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:43:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27629 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:43:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 27618 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:43:46 -0000 Received: from smtp.well.com (206.80.6.147) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:43:46 -0000 Received: from well.com (nobody@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA08331; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from phred@localhost) by well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA27653; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:43:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Fred Heutte" Message-Id: <9904141243.ZM27651@well.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:43:37 -0700 In-Reply-To: Jess ica "Re: Quick thoughts on The Top" (Apr 14, 12:44pm) References: <19990414194431.11977.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: Jess ica , SCiEnCe , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Quick thoughts on The Top Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, the Top is one of the few places I see people dancing to jungle/d&b. Since I'm an out-of-towner I haven't been to any Tuesday events, but the Saturday Belle Epoque night always draws a good crowd that shakes sokme action on the dance floor. Other d&b rooms and events I go to, people stand around with grim looks on their faces, for the most part. phred From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:46:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29597 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:46:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 29577 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:46:29 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:46:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414194006.25888.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.240] by attach1; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:40:06 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: New 2 SF scene-- lookin 4 parties To: madhav@table.jps.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: madhav@table.jps.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This weekend, I suggest Harmony's Spring Time Flower Festival. It should be a nice representation of what is good about the bay area rave scene. I'll know I'll be there...Angel Alanis!! oh yeah!! =)jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---madhav@table.jps.net wrote: > > Hello all, > > I've been doin the East Coast scene since '92, but haven't been to > a party in a while-- and I haven't been in the SF Bay area for long... > anxious to get into the local scene... > > Can anyone suggest some good 21+ parties coming up? I like Drum N Bass, > Trance, hardcore... > > Peace, > -Madhav a.k.a. "Mo" > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 19:58:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6449 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 19:58:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 6303 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 19:58:45 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 19:58:45 -0000 Received: from c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.87.180]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990414195843.XYDJ19957.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:58:43 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: "Socal Ravers" , "SFRaves" Subject: needed: Black Light Daves contact info? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:00:14 -0700 Message-ID: <004101be86b1$691b9020$508112ac@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks gEoff ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 20:01:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8238 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 20:01:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 8229 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 20:01:04 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 20:01:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414200433.19219.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:04:32 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:04:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Quick thoughts on The Top To: Fred Heutte , SCiEnCe , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >people stand around with grim looks >on their faces, for the most part. If you want to know what I am absolutely incabable of, read the above ...D&b...standing...grim look..never, but im sure it happens... =) Jess --- Fred Heutte wrote: > Actually, the Top is one of the few places I see > people dancing to jungle/d&b. > Since I'm an out-of-towner I haven't been to any > Tuesday events, but the > Saturday Belle Epoque night always draws a good > crowd that shakes sokme > action on the dance floor. > > Other d&b rooms and events I go to, people stand > around with grim looks > on their faces, for the most part. > > phred > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 20:06:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11002 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 20:06:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10993 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 20:05:57 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 20:05:57 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-243.dsp.com [204.118.76.243]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA01941; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:05:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199904142005.NAA01941@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:02:22 -0700 To: Oct1faith@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: Being sober..at a rave In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THANK YOU for that. I am almost always "sober" at raves, parties, whatnot. I've done E three times in my life - twice when it first became available (1984 or '85) and I was given 2 grams to swallow right thenandthere, and almost died both ti (convulsions, irregular heartbeat, absolutely no control of breathing, autonomic functions seeming like they required concentration, everything visually in an orange & purple shaking grid), and once in '97 at the pleading of some friends. Don't beg your friends to do drugs with you if they tell you they have an aversion - no matter how psychological this aversion - to those particular drugs. It will only provide vast disappointment for yourself and your pal, and will probably also get you puked upon. Anyway: I don't do E. I had my day/week/month/years with acid way back when. THC has an LSD affect on me these days. My doors of perception are plenty wide open. SO - I am usually very clearheaded when I go out. Perhaps I am wide awake, even. This makes me more critical of some events - say alot of F8 or TnJF massives - and probably more appreciative of others. When I make friends, I make them for real, not just for a night or a backrub. When I hear and feel and see the music, it's because the person on the decks is a deity (Jeno! Sage! Christopher Lawrence! Noel! Ethan! etcetcetc!) and not because I have an e-crush on them (M&M!). When I shake my booty it's with clearminded passion, not synthetic delerium. This isn't to detract from synthetic delerium, mind you. Just know that, if you see me dancing when you're performing, I'm tripping on *you*, and that you are what I came to the party for, vs. just using it as a venue for doing my drugs or picking up on folks. Urgh I wanna go play in the sun, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 20:19:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18053 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 20:19:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 18044 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 20:19:40 -0000 Received: from table.jps.net (madhav@206.170.168.217) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 20:19:40 -0000 Received: (from madhav@localhost) by table.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09973; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:18:49 -0700 (PDT) From: madhav@table.jps.net Message-Id: <199904142018.NAA09973@table.jps.net> Subject: Re: New 2 SF scene-- lookin 4 parties To: thatpisces@yahoo.com (Jess ica) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: madhav@table.jps.net (), sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990414194949.7106.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> from "Jess ica" at Apr 14, 99 12:49:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Where is Eklektik held? I'm in the South Bay (Cupertino), but I got a place to crash in SF since I'm up there every weekend! This Thursday may be a problem 'cause I still have to finish my taxes! ugh! -Mo > Hi there, > > Go to Eklektik!! Its on Thursday nights, and it is awesome for D&B. > Where do you live? I go every thursday, you may wanna join us one > time. > > Jessica > > > --- madhav@table.jps.net wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I've been doin the East Coast scene since '92, but > > haven't been to > > a party in a while-- and I haven't been in the SF > > Bay area for long... > > anxious to get into the local scene... > > > > Can anyone suggest some good 21+ parties coming up? > > I like Drum N Bass, > > Trance, hardcore... > > > > Peace, > > -Madhav a.k.a. "Mo" > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:02:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18170 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:02:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 18059 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:02:21 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:02:21 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA02070 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:05:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for cache01.ns.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:09:19 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:02:01 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'sfraves'" Subject: eklektic Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:01:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it seems that a lot of people from this list go to eklektic. i go there almost every week, and i don't recall seeing any familiar faces - is it because it's too dark in there? anyway, should we attempt to meet tomorrow night? loic ps: for those of you who like minna st., go there sunday night. happy kid ian & marty will be there. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:09:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24455 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:09:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 24428 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:09:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:09:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 54661 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 21:09:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414210913.54660.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:09:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: it's a beautiful day in my neighborhood Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:09:13 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk today is the nicest day i've seen in a long time! the sun is out. there's a slight breeze in the air. the sky is blue. it makes me so happy. this is the kind of weather i'm used to, and it so reminds me of home. i can't help but smile all day. have a good day everyone! love lia Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:22:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2456 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:22:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 2446 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:21:57 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:21:57 -0000 Received: from FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vHNMa19585 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:17:57 -0400 (EDT) From: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Message-ID: <76e69d7b.24466005@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:17:57 EDT Subject: ahh...birds are chirping & the sun is out--yay! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i rolled out of bed today 1/2 an hour late so i didn't go to my first class, but i'm so excited about this weather! i wore shorts today--i even hung out @ school for like an extra couple of hours in the grass, soaking it up! spring is my favorite season, and i hope all of you guys on the list aren't stuck in cubicles somewhere...in offices w/o windows...and that you all get a chance to experience this first bit of sunshine and *warmth*! this is soooo refreshing. when do we get to have daytime outdoor parties.. barbecues? i can't wait!! smile, catrina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:27:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5370 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:27:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 5361 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:27:41 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:27:41 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 612407; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:27:14 -0700 Message-ID: <371507DE.DF114D7F@warmth.org> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:25:50 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gherbst@home.com CC: Socal Ravers , SFRaves Subject: Re: needed: Black Light Daves contact info? References: <004101be86b1$691b9020$508112ac@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is not to start a flame, but has Black Light Dave been a no show to any scheduled events lately? He was for Children of the Sun, Even after spending all day to locate him, finally 1 hour before the event, he said he would be there. Guess what, never showed, never called!! In my book he is no longer existent as a backlight provider, due to extremely poor business practices. The added stress level 1 hour before the event, was just way too un cool in my eyes! Thanks to Jason (Skills, F8, AKA-BlackLight Jason) coming threw last minute to save the show! We totally appreciated it! Just and FYI, Have additional BL options if you do book BL-Dave, because he may not come threw! Matt Geoff Herbst wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > thanks > > gEoff ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:43:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11935 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:43:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 11870 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:42:57 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:42:57 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 612412; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:42:29 -0700 Message-ID: <37150B71.B08193A6@warmth.org> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:41:05 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: talk@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Why you should not use your company e-mail address for this list! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have noticed many of you who use you company e-mail address on this this. I highly suggest you don't! I have worked in the information systems industry for about 10 years now, and you may not be aware, your e-mail can be (And usually is) routinely monitored without your knowledge! If you don't believe me well your loss, but it is usually worded in your company manual. The reason I am bringing this to your attention was because I recently had to monitor someone e-mail, document the activity, notify authorities, and then testify in court... I have learned way to much now to think "Hey They Can't Really Do That" because they can! With all the free e-mail accounts these days, like Yahoo, Netscape, Bigfoot, and Hotmail (Not Recommended, Not Stable). Just some info for you guys/girls..... Matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:46:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13826 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:46:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 13796 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:46:02 -0000 Received: from web126.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.195) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:46:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414214630.18334.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.185.131.147] by web126.yahoomail.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:46:30 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: chrisP Subject: RE: (nrr) HApPY BdaY To: michael waldren , chocolate976@hotmail.com, jawthepixieman@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- michael waldren wrote: > I am sorry YM_M4I5S3S_3 this was supposed to go to Naomi YM_M4I5S3S_4. > I still love you though, it is just that i love her more. > > YM_M4I5S3S_5 YM_M4I5S3S_6 > [more pointless shit that should never have made it into my YM_M4I5S3S_7 deleted] YM_M4I5S3S_8 thanks! All 500 of us needed to know that. Extra special thanks for YM_M4I5S3S_9 that aol-virus of a survey again, YM_M4I5S3S_10. Even after the list owner said no more. You are so cool, anarchy R00lz! So many little YM_M4I5S3S_11*YM_M4I5S3S_12, so few filter slots... YM_M4I5S3S_13 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:47:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14676 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:47:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 14667 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:47:26 -0000 Received: from galvatron.vile.org (root@209.31.32.128) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:47:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (nick@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by galvatron.vile.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA17094 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:47:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:47:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Why you should not use your company e-mail address for this list! In-Reply-To: <37150B71.B08193A6@warmth.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That is of course unless you admin your companies mail server and have all your mail forwarded to the mail server running on your linux workstation......:) Oh yeah, it's a nice day out today in case any of you haven't heard...;) -Nick On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, vipassana wrote: > I have noticed many of you who use you company e-mail address on this > this. I highly suggest you don't! I have worked in the information > systems industry for about 10 years now, and you may not be aware, your > e-mail can be (And usually is) routinely monitored without your > knowledge! > > If you don't believe me well your loss, but it is usually worded in your > company manual. > > The reason I am bringing this to your attention was because I recently > had to monitor someone e-mail, document the activity, notify > authorities, and then testify in court... I have learned way to much now > to think "Hey They Can't Really Do That" because they can! With all the > free e-mail accounts these days, like Yahoo, Netscape, Bigfoot, and > Hotmail (Not Recommended, Not Stable). > > Just some info for you guys/girls..... > > Matt > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:48:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15482 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:48:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 15471 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:48:34 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:48:34 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vKMRa23591 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:47:34 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <8af216bb.244666f6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:47:34 EDT Subject: Re: Review: DJ Lee at Funktion To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk forgive my ignorance in advance but...whats a rewind? i hear it alot and feel i should know it .... -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:50:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17346 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 17252 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:50:36 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:50:36 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iQFUa27564; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:14:04 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <282afb3a.24465f1c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:14:04 EDT Subject: Re: it's a beautiful day in my neighborhood To: kandykid4@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it is beautiful here in nevada also!... very warm & the sky is clear. i have the mountains surrounding me.since i live right outside of south lake tahoe, you can still still see the whiteness of the snow...very beautiful i must say..... ~Sami :) *off to wash my car in the sun* In a message dated 4/14/99 2:09:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kandykid4@hotmail.com writes: > today is the nicest day i've seen in a long time! the sun is out. > there's a slight breeze in the air. the sky is blue. it makes me so > happy. this is the kind of weather i'm used to, and it so reminds me > of home. i can't help but smile all day. > > have a good day everyone! > > love lia > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:50:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18188 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:50:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 18066 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:50:55 -0000 Received: from law-f86.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.149) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:50:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 86112 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 21:50:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414215028.86111.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:50:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: youcantbewhatyouwere@yahoo.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, leslie.ayres@excite.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: the great gatsby '99...or, Kids That Dont Pay Rent. Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:50:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: mike bolger and this whole argument over 'how old school are you?' is stupid. if you're down, you're down. it's in your walk, it's in your eyes, i could not agree more. if you are truelly secure in who you are and are a good, positive person it shows in everything you do--in the energy that you project. love and happiness sarah Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:51:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19419 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:51:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19404 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:51:42 -0000 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:51:42 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id OAA03787; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:51:31 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Why you should not use your company e-mail address for this list! To: vipassana cc: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <37150B71.B08193A6@warmth.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree here! i woked in an IS department at one point in time and when folks would be "let go", their supervisors woudl regularly request full copies of the employee's EMAILs burned on CD for future reference. it might seem like a pain in the ass having to open up your web browser, or telnetting to a private machine jsut to read EMAIL, but it will help you out in the long run! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GTA - "The Parti EP" Orbit Trnsmission 007 available now at your local record shop. info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 21:52:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20269 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 21:52:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 20259 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 21:52:32 -0000 Received: from f92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 21:52:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 20514 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 21:53:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414215318.20513.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:53:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: vipassana@warmth.org, gherbst@home.com Cc: scr@socal-raves.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: needed: Black Light Daves contact info? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:53:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahah Yea BLD is kind of sketchy he has been late for several of my parties but he has come through. That sucks that he did not come through for Children of the sun. You kind of have to babysit him and remind him of your party and make sure you mention how much $$ you are going to pay him. Funny how money motivates people.. He is a totally kewl kat though just a lot going on in his day to day life. See ya, Macadio >From: vipassana >To: gherbst@home.com >CC: Socal Ravers , SFRaves >Subject: Re: needed: Black Light Daves contact info? >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:25:50 -0700 > >This is not to start a flame, but has Black Light Dave been a no show to any >scheduled events lately? He was for Children of the Sun, Even after spending >all day to locate him, finally 1 hour before the event, he said he would be >there. Guess what, never showed, never called!! In my book he is no longer >existent as a backlight provider, due to extremely poor business practices. >The added stress level 1 hour before the event, was just way too un cool in my >eyes! Thanks to Jason (Skills, F8, AKA-BlackLight Jason) coming threw last >minute to save the show! We totally appreciated it! > >Just and FYI, Have additional BL options if you do book BL-Dave, because he >may not come threw! > >Matt > > > >Geoff Herbst wrote: > >> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate (tm) Pro* >> thanks >> >> gEoff ;) > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 22:08:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28250 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 22:08:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 28230 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:08:00 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:08:00 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09935 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2M04TA86>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:03:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG'" Subject: NRR: OUTLOOK QUESTION Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:03:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone else out there use Microsoft Outlook for their Email? You guys got me super paranoid about the corps checking your email at the office, I get my SFR mail here and I don't 'want them nosing around in it, espcially since I'm quitting tomorrow, that'll give them a surefire reason to go through my shit. So I want to delete it all, but I don't know how, other than doing it one by one and I don't have time for that. Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you Naomi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 22:15:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4148 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 22:15:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 4120 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:15:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:15:42 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:14:02 -0700 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id F97D47E1F14911D2830300A0C9CFADA2 for plus 1 more; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:14:01 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: "'Naomi Thompson'" , Subject: RE: OUTLOOK QUESTION Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:16:59 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be86c4$842e6e60$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-SLUIDL: 84756025-F2A411D2-830300A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just do a search for *.pst, and delete. All your Outlook mail, contacts, are kept in that one file -------------------------------- Gerlando -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Naomi Thompson Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 3:04 PM To: 'SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG' Subject: NRR: OUTLOOK QUESTION Does anyone else out there use Microsoft Outlook for their Email? You guys got me super paranoid about the corps checking your email at the office, I get my SFR mail here and I don't 'want them nosing around in it, espcially since I'm quitting tomorrow, that'll give them a surefire reason to go through my shit. So I want to delete it all, but I don't know how, other than doing it one by one and I don't have time for that. Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you Naomi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 22:17:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5629 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 22:17:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 5514 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:17:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:17:46 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:16:10 -0700 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id F97D47E4F14911D2830300A0C9CFADA2 for plus 1 more; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:16:09 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: "'Naomi Thompson'" , Subject: RE: OUTLOOK QUESTION Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:19:07 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01be86c4$d07fc8e0$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-SLUIDL: 8475602E-F2A411D2-830300A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh... BTW: This is not a definite cure. Some companies keep email on their servers. Even if it ends up stored for one day, it will make it onto their backup files. -------------------------------- Gerlando -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Naomi Thompson Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 3:04 PM To: 'SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG' Subject: NRR: OUTLOOK QUESTION Does anyone else out there use Microsoft Outlook for their Email? You guys got me super paranoid about the corps checking your email at the office, I get my SFR mail here and I don't 'want them nosing around in it, espcially since I'm quitting tomorrow, that'll give them a surefire reason to go through my shit. So I want to delete it all, but I don't know how, other than doing it one by one and I don't have time for that. Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you Naomi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 22:19:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7356 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 22:19:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 7337 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:19:18 -0000 Received: from tcsi.com (HELO gateway.tcsi.com) (137.134.47.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:19:18 -0000 Received: from almd-ms.tcsi.com (almd-ms.tcsi.com [137.134.4.21]) by gateway.tcsi.com (8.8.7/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA05527; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waxwing (waxwing.tcsi.com [137.134.4.208]) by almd-ms.tcsi.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA09860; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:19:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Victor Wiewiorowski Received: (victorw@localhost) by waxwing (SMI-8.6/8.6.10) id PAA18878; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:19:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199904142219.PAA18878@waxwing> Subject: Re: Why you should not use your company e-mail address for this list! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: vipassana@warmth.org In-Reply-To: <37150B71.B08193A6@warmth.org> from "vipassana" at Apr 14, 99 02:41:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > I have noticed many of you who use you company e-mail address on this > this. I highly suggest you don't! Why? I can think of two reasons for why you might say this: 1) you are using company reasources for your leisure 2) you might admit to doing illegal things but 1 applies to any personal e-mail, dancing babies, other mailinglists, so sfr is not special in this regard. and if 2 is an issue, well the list archives are publically available so if you do say something the company might use against you, and they do want to nail your ass to the wall, they'll find it, and do so, no? > systems industry for about 10 years now, and you may not be aware, your > e-mail can be (And usually is) routinely monitored without your > knowledge! To be safe assume that any non-encrypted e-mail is in the public domain. if you intend to be president, i gurantee you that the e-mail you wrote to a friend about last weekends etrip will surface. > to think "Hey They Can't Really Do That" because they can! With all the > free e-mail accounts these days, like Yahoo, Netscape, Bigfoot, and > Hotmail (Not Recommended, Not Stable). But using one of those from work is almost like using your work account. you are using company reasources, they can trap your traffic, look at it, so what's the diff? Bottom line is - if you think your company could use something you read against you - use a public isp. if they could use something you write - don't write it. -. victor ._ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 22:21:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9259 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 22:21:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 9246 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:21:27 -0000 Received: from mb3.mailbank.com (209.133.104.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:21:27 -0000 Received: from manuel-laptop (mg130-005.ricochet.net [204.179.130.5]) by mb3.mailbank.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA21834; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:21:11 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: mb3.mailbank.com: Host mg130-005.ricochet.net [204.179.130.5] claimed to be manuel-laptop From: "Manuel G. Quiogue" To: "Naomi Thompson" Cc: Subject: RE: OUTLOOK QUESTION Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:16:31 -0700 Message-ID: <001a01be86c4$72c3d020$690000c0@manuel-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You also might just want to set up a web based account over yahoo or something. Then it never gets on your company's servers... -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Naomi Thompson Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 3:04 PM To: 'SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG' Subject: NRR: OUTLOOK QUESTION Does anyone else out there use Microsoft Outlook for their Email? You guys got me super paranoid about the corps checking your email at the office, I get my SFR mail here and I don't 'want them nosing around in it, espcially since I'm quitting tomorrow, that'll give them a surefire reason to go through my shit. So I want to delete it all, but I don't know how, other than doing it one by one and I don't have time for that. Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you Naomi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 22:36:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15157 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 22:36:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 14749 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:36:22 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:36:22 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-13.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.13]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA19146 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990414210910.006da98c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:09:10 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: Why you should not use your company e-mail address for this list! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ACK Matt is Da man ! Matt is Da man!..it's like that movie rush or sumtin..he's just infiltrating the list ?!?!? AHHH! just kiddin :P Nuku At 02:41 PM 4/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >I have noticed many of you who use you company e-mail address on this >this. I highly suggest you don't! I have worked in the information >systems industry for about 10 years now, and you may not be aware, your >e-mail can be (And usually is) routinely monitored without your >knowledge! > >If you don't believe me well your loss, but it is usually worded in your >company manual. > >The reason I am bringing this to your attention was because I recently >had to monitor someone e-mail, document the activity, notify >authorities, and then testify in court... I have learned way to much now >to think "Hey They Can't Really Do That" because they can! With all the >free e-mail accounts these days, like Yahoo, Netscape, Bigfoot, and >Hotmail (Not Recommended, Not Stable). > >Just some info for you guys/girls..... > >Matt > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 22:43:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20240 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 22:43:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 20152 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:43:37 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:43:37 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vWNGa01910 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:42:47 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: <206d9237.244673e7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:42:47 EDT Subject: Promoters To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: WizardCCCA@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone... not sure if anyone remembers me... but I am back. I just wanted to find out who I should talk to about getting one of my friends out to sf to spin... Can anyone give me some information? Thanks..... Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 22:49:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25755 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 22:49:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 25723 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 22:49:35 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 22:49:35 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vFJZa23592; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:48:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <36a07819.24467541@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:48:33 EDT Subject: Re: Promoters To: WizardCCCA@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/14/99 2:44:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, WizardCCCA@aol.com writes: << Hey everyone... not sure if anyone remembers me... but I am back. I just wanted to find out who I should talk to about getting one of my friends out to sf to spin... Can anyone give me some information? Thanks..... >> I'd say the first thing you need is a demo by him, and maybe even a bio or profile of the guy. Then pass it off to any promoter you can. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 23:08:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4829 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 23:08:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 4812 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 23:08:40 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 23:08:40 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14742; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2M04TA0J>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:04:38 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Cc: "'bischoff@corp.adaptec.com'" Subject: OUTLOOK HELP THANKS Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:04:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank you guys for all your help with the outlook thing, I got rid of all my freakin' mail thanks to you computer geniuses out there!! Thank you SO much!! Now I feel a lot better about all this "bad" mail I've been sending and receiving!! THANK YOU Naomi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 23:18:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9363 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 23:18:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 9351 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 23:18:22 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 23:18:22 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA08970 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for cache01.ns.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 23:25:23 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:18:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'sfraves'" Subject: HAPPY KIDS @ MINNA ST. Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:18:04 -0700 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk did i say happy kid ian & marty were going to be at minna st. sunday night?? i have no idea. sorry everybody, tough day at the office. loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 14 23:21:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11411 invoked by uid 6000); 14 Apr 1999 23:21:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11388 invoked from network); 14 Apr 1999 23:21:46 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 23:21:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414231956.7794.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.240] by web4; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:19:56 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:19:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: HAPPY KIDS @ MINNA ST. To: "Comolli, Loic" , 'sfraves' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just got off the phone w/ Marty (my roommate), yes him and ian will both be at 78 minna this sunday. rumor has it....drc will be there tooo! =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---"Comolli, Loic" wrote: > > did i say happy kid ian & marty were going to be at minna st. sunday night?? > i have no idea. sorry everybody, tough day at the office. > > loic > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 00:13:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29434 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 00:12:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 29412 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 00:12:53 -0000 Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.225) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 00:12:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415001405.18896.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.179.158.30] by web308.yahoomail.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:14:05 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:14:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Miss E Subject: Catch the KUNG-FU KNOWLEDGE TOUR To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk CHECK IT: http://www.kungfu-knowledge.com The KUNG-FU KNOWLEDGE TOUR is well on its way across the USA with an arsenal of drum 'n' bass technicians like no other... TOUCHING DOWN IN SAN FRANCISCO IN TWO WEEKS!! EKLEKTIC - DENSITY - GROUNDSCORE and the ENTIRE SF JUNGLE MASSIVE bringin' on the flava for ONE EVENING ONLY WEDNESDAY, APRIL 28, 1999 + + + + + + + BAILEY (Metalheadz, UK) ROB PLAYFORD (Moving Shadow, UK) DJ CRAZE (DMC World Champion) 1.8.7 (Jungle Sky, NYC) MACHETE (Junglist Platoon, LA) EZRA (SDP, LA) SAGE (Phunckateck/Eklektic) AL SIMMONS (Density) MC CHICKABOO (Knowledge, UK) + + + + + + + Kung-Fu Mystic Visuals and Visual Junglism by Spectr *THE DNA LOUNGE @ 375 11th Street, SF* *10PM to 3AM* *21+* *$12* Discounted entry to Eklektic's 85th session the next evening on Thurs. April 29th with proof of Kung-Fu Knowledge entry. CALL: 415.332.5800 x797 ++++BIG UPS++++ XLR8R - PHUNCKATECK - COMPOUND GREEN LABEL - RADIO-V.COM - SFDB.COM KNOWLEDGE MAGAZINE TUNE IN FOR TICKET GIVEAWAYS ON FUTURE BREAKS 90.3FM SATURDAYS 3 - 5PM See ya on the dancefloor... Miss E + dmarie http://www.izmedia.com/eklektic http://www.izmedia.com/futurebreaks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 00:19:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1493 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 00:19:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 1445 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 00:19:42 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 00:19:42 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vUPEa20339 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:17:33 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <38590103.24468a1d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:17:33 EDT Subject: this b-day stuff.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hmmm, way it just me or did anyone else pay attention to the fact that the origional letteer said " send this to everyne you know EXCEPT the person or list that sent it to you"????? or did all those people just decided to ignore that part?? lol, pay attention people =) love and hugs and kisses, tina ps go outside and enjoy the sun or something, then maybe you will be more alert!! =) have a great day! it's beautiful out!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 00:32:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8571 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 00:32:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 8363 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 00:32:33 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 00:32:33 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3UEVa19553; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:31:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <36a031c1.24468d54@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:31:16 EDT Subject: Re: Titanic song To: AlexG1029@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just heard that song last night at my buddies house and I finally figured out which song was talking about (I haven't seen the movie yet either). Like most any song. . . even if it's like some pimp-ass mac-daddy rhomptee rhomp shiznit, gets waaaaaaay tired if it's abused. I mean, lately I've been going to lots of parties and hearing like the same music I've been hearing for the last couple of weeks. It's a cool song I think (probably since I heard it and danced to it before I knew it was from titanic). Like the first few times you hear it you kind of get that dramatic emotional feeling inside you, then it just starts to fade and fade, until then it's like just really really annoying. SOOOOOOOOo HUGZzzzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 00:50:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16473 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 00:50:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 16278 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 00:49:58 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 00:49:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 29495 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 00:49:56 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 00:49:56 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station240.thegrid.net [209.162.3.240]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA22470; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371536E0.14F39CE2@thegrid.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:46:24 -0700 From: Mark Personal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gemini * , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! References: <19990414175212.9219.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I'm not oldschool, and I'm not the ultimate expert on genre distinctions between types of techno, however, when it comes to the music I could not possibly be more moved or more inspired. I can sit in my room endlessly, stereo at fullblast, close my eyes, and just listen to music, and I believe i have a full understanding when people say to "get high from the music". Now I'm sorry but I don't see wtf this has to do with being sober at raves. Because I *choose* to do a substance at a rave does not inhibit my appreciation for the music, it does not hinder my ability to dance. If anything I find it heigtens my senses and the once or twice a month i go to a rave and use a substance, it's a feeling I like. Frankly I don't like the idea of encouraging or discouraging partying sober. It's a personal choice. Because you choose to do somethign at a party doesn't make u a drug fuct idiot who can't appreciate music, and because you go sober doesn't mean your afraid to try new things or experiment. Why must people preach? What is it about people that makes them so sure they have "found the way" and everyone should try their path? *sighs* symmetry gemini * wrote: > Why would you discourage anyone from encouraging people to go to > parties sober? You need not take offence to what swati is doing and > trying to promote in our community of ravers--its completely positive > and very helpful for the scene. i know swati well and her intentions > are very positve and she cares a lot about the scene. all of the > things you mentioned about getting high off of the music and the scene > and people w/out the drugs--ive heard swati say it all and ive also > seen her say it to kids who don't ever party sober. > im glad that you are the type of person who goes to parties sober and > im glad you know a lot of people who do as well. i also know a lot of > sober partiers and often am one myself. you *cannot* deny that there > are a shit load of people who do not know how to party sober though or > think that thats what being at a party is all about. the worst part is > that many of these kids are so new to the scene and have never been to > a party sober. these are the kids that she is targeting with her > sobriety project. she is also just trying to find out where people > are coming from in terms of partying and drug use. many have never > done anything at a party and some have never gone sober--the spectrum > is complete in our scene. its all about learning and education. keep > positive. > > love and happiness > sarah > > >From: MacBunny > >To: swati shah > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! > >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:14:16 -0400 (EDT) > > > >i'm sorry to sound a little mean about this, but if you think that > poeple > >on this list and who go to parties need some sort of help to party > sober > >by asking everyone to "try" going to a party sober or filling out a > >survey or sharing their expiriences, then either you've missed the > HUGE > >crowd of us that actually DON't to drugs or have stopped, or we > really > >have a huge problem in our scene that i'm just not aware about (and i > >hope this isn't the case.) most of my friends, including myself, > have > >done our expirimenting in the past, and i'm not going to get down on > >anyone for that, that is just a normal part of growing up. but > >taking expirimentation too far to reach addiction is one other thing. > > >maybe i'm lucky to have a group of friends who have decided that > drugs > >are boring when over done (just like i have.) maybe the amount of > druged > >up kids, e-ing balls and rolling on the floor mask all of us "sober" > >ravers. i put that word in quotes because it is all relative. > honestly, > >i don't NEED drugs to feel high. i've learned to do that just fine > on my > >own. i still feel high as fuck when i'm at a party! but maybe > that's > >off the music, my excitement, the energy of everyone around me. > everyone > >is going to go through their phase of trying drugs and expiramenting, > >especially when they first start partying, and even after that poeple > >will still do stuff occasionally (this is what i've noticed among > MANY > >poeple i've talked to, i'm not just trying to make a generalization > of > >everyone in the scene because of course there are exceptions.) i > guess > >if you're ready to party sober, then go for it! there are many of us > out > >there that do, but if you still like getting high, then just be > careful, > >and remember that when you come down, there are going to be real life > >responibilities you will have to face, like school or work, so just > enjoy > >your free time wisely. > > > >much love, > >amber > > > > > > > >On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, swati shah wrote: > >> > >> Alright, this is it. This is your last chance to help me with > Project > >> Bliss. Just to remind you, this is my project to encourage kids to > go to a > >> party sober. I feel that every raver should be able to go to a > party sober. > >> And in my definition, marijuana doesn't count. I'm not saying that > everyone > >> should be sober all the time, but give yourself the choice to take > >> something or not. No one should miss a party because they don't > want to be > >> sober. Its almost a skill, to focus on the music and the vibe > rather than > >> on just getting as fucked up as possible. but the music is there, > and the > >> people are there, to get you as high or higher than anything, if > only you > >> allow it. > >> > >> So, this is how you can help me. > >> > >> 1) If you've never been to a party sober, try it once. Lose > yourself to > >> the music. And then, email me the next day with your experience. > >> > >> 2) If you have been going to parties sober, write me an email about > your > >> first sober party, or any experiences you have that you want to > share. > >> Write to me about your thoughts on the connections between raves > and drugs, > >> and how you see the relationship evolving through your experiences. > >> > >> 3) Everyone, fill out my survey that is attached at the end of this > email > >> and send it back to me. Its just about how often you rave, and how > often > >> you use certain drugs. Feel free to share any stories you have with > me, I > >> love them all. > >> > >> Of course, everything will be kept confidential. I understand the > fragility > >> of some of the issues discussed, and only I will know who responded > how. > >> Security is not a problem. Thanks to all who have already > responded to me, > >> and to all of you who will, I hope. > >> > >> Love, > >> Swati > >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't > know, > >is the characteristic of one who knows." > > > >amber perry-mcquown > > > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu > >amber@earthling.net > >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 00:50:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17992 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 00:50:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 17962 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 00:50:50 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 00:50:50 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.55) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:54:30 -0800 Message-ID: <371537D6.AB01E851@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:50:30 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: headphones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm looking to buy some headphones. i was just hoping that some of the audiophile/dj's of the group might help me out. i was thinking the sennheiser hd200's, but i don't know where to find them, or even how much i can expect to pay. if anyone can help me by giving me the name/number of a store in the bay area (i live in sacramento, but i can drive down there. won't be the first time, wink wink.), or by suggesting another type/brand/whatever headphone, that sounds clear, and works for dj'ing, i would greatly appreciate it. wow, that was a looong sentence, but i think i can do better. maybe i will continute to attempt longer and longer sentences, till your brain explodes from trying to store too many words all at once. or not. paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 00:51:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18658 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 00:51:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 18650 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 00:51:16 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 00:51:16 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02224; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:51:38 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu To: Aryck46@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Titanic song In-Reply-To: <36a031c1.24468d54@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > before I knew it was from titanic). Like the first few times you hear it you > kind of get that dramatic emotional feeling inside you, then it just starts > to fade and fade, until then it's like just really really annoying. > I dunno, mon ami. There are songs out there have that endure. FSOL's Papua New Guinea comes to mind, along with ... Mortal Kombat. Ok just kidding. But you get the idea. One of my friends told me that there really aren't "classics" out there that everyone knows and loves when you compare this genre to say ... rock and roll. Techno has had way less time to evolve and plus it's not a very accessible. I'm guessing that's why raver knowledge of music isn't as high as a person would expect of a gathering of techno lovers. ; ) We can't all be DJs. ((( l0ve always ))) Nico From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 01:08:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27233 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 01:08:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 27216 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 01:08:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 01:08:50 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:07:08 +0900 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id F97D4862F14911D2830300A0C9CFADA2 for plus 1 more; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:07:08 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: "'Paul Sober'" , "'SFRAVES'" Subject: RE: headphones Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:10:07 -0700 Message-ID: <001401be86dc$b3f29820$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <371537D6.AB01E851@geocities.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-SLUIDL: 84756115-F2A411D2-830300A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Get the Sony V6's. They're about $70 and you can find them at any Fry's. If you've got the money, go for the Panasonic/Technics DJ1200s. That's my 2 cents... -------------------------------- Gerlando -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sober Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 5:51 PM To: SFRAVES Subject: headphones i'm looking to buy some headphones. i was just hoping that some of the audiophile/dj's of the group might help me out. i was thinking the sennheiser hd200's, but i don't know where to find them, or even how much i can expect to pay. if anyone can help me by giving me the name/number of a store in the bay area (i live in sacramento, but i can drive down there. won't be the first time, wink wink.), or by suggesting another type/brand/whatever headphone, that sounds clear, and works for dj'ing, i would greatly appreciate it. wow, that was a looong sentence, but i think i can do better. maybe i will continute to attempt longer and longer sentences, till your brain explodes from trying to store too many words all at once. or not. paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 01:11:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29933 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 01:11:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 29923 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 01:11:41 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 01:11:41 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id VAA13287; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990414180419.03a35ac0@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:10:45 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, frequency-8@squinky.org From: binary fineboy Subject: Weds nite ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk heya, I just got a call from synesthasia saying that there isnt gonna be a party tonite so for those of you who were planning on heading out to oakland to see mars, mystre and tracer (yum) save yourself the trip ... apparently they had problems with the space. if I can save one person wasting a drive to the ghetto ... my time here has not been wasted ryan ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 01:23:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5639 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 01:23:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 5626 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 01:23:21 -0000 Received: from vm4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO vm4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 01:23:21 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB112-32.splitrock.net [209.156.147.239]) by vm4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA207410; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:23:15 -0400 Message-ID: <37153EF8.77D0D6EB@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:20:57 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Sober CC: SFRAVES Subject: Re: headphones References: <371537D6.AB01E851@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Since this seems to be a recycled question, here is my handy recycled reply. Hope this helps - Headphones is the one thing, well besides turntables, that you DON'T want to skimp on. Get a good pair right off the bat and it'll improve your mixing learning curve in the beginning as well as save your hearing and improve your mixing ability in the long. Sennheiser have always made great headphones, but for DJing you have to be careful which model you choose. The 'open' ear ones are terrible for DJing since they have the the foam padding which lets the outside sounds in which makes it hard to cue in the mostly unDJ friendly mix environments at most parties. Those ones are more suited for broadcast type work or studio work. Other headphones to consider are of course the standard sonys everybody has, or on the different tip the Technics RP DJ 1200's which are real good and the Pioneer SE DJ 5000's which are REAL loud, (pair these up with the headphone jack on the Rane and you could use these headphones as monitor speakers!) As far as prices you can purchase the pretty much standard sony's for anywhere from 70 - 100 bucks depending where you go and sales and such. But as far as the Sennheisers they're pretty expensive, ranging from 150 - 250. The Technics I mentioned are usually about 150, and the Pioneers are about 140. Usually DJs use the Sonys because they're cheap and they sound good. Which is a definate plus, but check out several different headphones when you go to buy, you might find you like the more expensive ones better, or some might fit your head better than others, etc. I personally found the sonys to boomy, and I use some top of the line Denon DH950's which cost me about 140. I've had them for like 4 years now. And when they go out I'll get the Pioneer SE-DJ5000's. One thing to note, Beside the Pioneer , Technics, and one type of Sennheiser ,headphones were not created specifically for DJs so some don't stand up well to the high demands of DJs. Many very good and expensive headphones sound superb for studio , broadcast , and home use, but fall extremely short in the high sound pressure levels of a club or rave environment. Always buy the 'closed' ear kind of headphones and when your looking at the different kinds of headphones, look at there 'sensitivity' ratings. The 'higher' the sensitivity rating, the 'louder' the headphones will play. The Pioneers have a very high sensitivity rating for example. By the way, Good Guys will special order the Sennheiser headphones of your choice if you decide on those and you can't find them elsewhere. They also carrying the Denon model that I use. And most other music store chains such as PSSL and Guitar Center should have the Pioneer, Sony and Technics brands. hope this helps, if you have anymore questions feel free to ask. Misc. Links for headphones http://www.sennheiserusa.com/ http://www.pioneer-eur.com/products/multimed/djsounds/prosaccs.htm http://www.pssl.com -peace- Joe Lanzon Paul Sober wrote: > i'm looking to buy some headphones. i was just hoping that some of the > audiophile/dj's of the group might help me out. i was thinking the > sennheiser hd200's, but i don't know where to find them, or even how > much i can expect to pay. if anyone can help me by giving me the > name/number of a store in the bay area (i live in sacramento, but i can > drive down there. won't be the first time, wink wink.), or by > suggesting another type/brand/whatever headphone, that sounds clear, and > works for dj'ing, i would greatly appreciate it. > > wow, that was a looong sentence, but i think i can do better. maybe i > will continute to attempt longer and longer sentences, till your brain > explodes from trying to store too many words all at once. or not. > > paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 01:43:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14710 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 01:43:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14690 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 01:43:36 -0000 Received: from web206.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 01:43:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415014216.17275.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.18.208] by web206.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:42:16 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:42:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: nrr:bloop, bloop, bloop..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hmmmm, going fishing? love,Julie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 01:52:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19052 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 01:52:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 19040 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 01:52:07 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 01:52:07 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23474; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990414185500.007e3100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:55:00 -0700 To: Mark Personal From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <371536E0.14F39CE2@thegrid.net> References: <19990414175212.9219.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Frankly I don't like the idea of encouraging or discouraging partying >sober. It's a personal choice. Because you choose to do somethign at a >party doesn't make u a drug fuct idiot who can't appreciate music, and >because you go sober doesn't mean your afraid to try new things or >experiment. Okay, you have a very mature and well-thought response to this. Yet, not all people see the drug issue clearly. Someone new on the rave scene might not have been exposed to the scene in such a good light--"newbies" start going to parties on E, and don't necessarily see going sober as an option. So, what is wrong with encouraging those who have never attended a rave sober to try it?? Perhaps they would like it better, and could save themselves $20 and a possible health risk. Or, maybe they would prefer the drugs... that is fine--no one is condemning that choice. This is not an issue of what is wrong or right... I don't see what people are taking offense to. Swati is a good person who is *NOT* judging anybody with this project. Yet, first the sober people attacked her because they felt that there is already a sober presence at raves which she was overlooking. Now, someone who uses drugs is attacking her for encouraging others to be sober. Whether you disagree with drug-use or not, the mere fact that OD's still occur at parties is a HUGE sign that there this is still a problem which plagues our scene. Sober or not, you should be able to see the necessity and validity for such a project, and thank Swati for attempting to help our *community* Really people, must we tear apart everything and everyone simply because we may not share the same opinions? It's a beautifuul day outside! Be happy :) Love, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 02:10:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27890 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 02:10:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 27868 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 02:09:58 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 02:09:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 10053 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 02:09:56 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 02:09:56 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station240.thegrid.net [209.162.3.240]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15163; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3715499F.61FFE200@thegrid.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:06:23 -0700 From: Mark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gemini * , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! References: <19990415013614.54385.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *smile* I take back my defensive attitude, you didn't deserve it at all. I am totally down with partying sober, and think it says a lot if someone can appreciate a rave when either sober or high. I've been to uptight lately I think, need to party it up this weekend =:) Lately I've seen a lot of divisiveness brewing with the whole drug issue and I mistakenly thought you guys were a part of it. Take care and best of luck with your project, I guess I was thinking you were gonna go around preaching to people to get them to try your project and thats what i was not cool with =:) =:) symmetry gemini * wrote: > I totally agree with everything you just wrote. why did you get so > defensive and think that we were totally down on people who do drugs > or were trying to preach our way to people? > the issue isn't preaching at all. i don't preach being sober and > neither does swati. both of us are the first to admit that we use > drugs and that they *do* highten the experience of partying a lot of > the time. what it is about is her project. she is doing a school > project researching drug use in the rave culture. included, she is > encouraging people who have *never* been to a party sober to try it. > there is nothing wrong with that. you have to admit some of the kids > that you see at parties are so messed up that i can't see them getting > all that you described out of the music. they're there to kids get > fucked up. thats their choice indeed but there is nothing wrong with > encouraging people to try something different if it is a positive > thing like partying sober. im not trying to run anyones life or tell > them whats right anymore than i want someone telling me what to do. i > just find it diheartening and sad when people put so much emphasis on > if im high or not ie "are you on e?" or "what are you on?" and then > they look at me funny when i say im sober as if its a bad thing. > ---note this has only happened to me at larger parties ie 2nd&jax or > massives etc.---- whatever--i like being sober, i like being high too, > i personally wouldn't push for one extreme or the other. to each his > own but acceptance and growth comes with understanding and > experiencing more ways than the one you are used to. > > love and happiness > sarah > > ps i like your signature--symmetry > > >From: Mark Personal > >To: gemini * , sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! > >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:46:24 -0700 > > > >Ok, I'm not oldschool, and I'm not the ultimate expert on genre > >distinctions between types of techno, however, when it comes to the > music > >I could not possibly be more moved or more inspired. I can sit in my > room > >endlessly, stereo at fullblast, close my eyes, and just listen to > music, > >and I believe i have a full understanding when people say to "get > high > >from the music". Now I'm sorry but I don't see wtf this has to do > with > >being sober at raves. Because I *choose* to do a substance at a rave > does > >not inhibit my appreciation for the music, it does not hinder my > ability > >to dance. If anything I find it heigtens my senses and the once or > twice > >a month i go to a rave and use a substance, it's a feeling I like. > >Frankly I don't like the idea of encouraging or discouraging partying > >sober. It's a personal choice. Because you choose to do somethign > at a > >party doesn't make u a drug fuct idiot who can't appreciate music, > and > >because you go sober doesn't mean your afraid to try new things or > >experiment. Why must people preach? What is it about people that > makes > >them so sure they have "found the way" and everyone should try their > path? > > > >*sighs* > >symmetry > > > >gemini * wrote: > > > >> Why would you discourage anyone from encouraging people to go to > >> parties sober? You need not take offence to what swati is doing > and > >> trying to promote in our community of ravers--its completely > positive > >> and very helpful for the scene. i know swati well and her > intentions > >> are very positve and she cares a lot about the scene. all of the > >> things you mentioned about getting high off of the music and the > scene > >> and people w/out the drugs--ive heard swati say it all and ive also > >> seen her say it to kids who don't ever party sober. > >> im glad that you are the type of person who goes to parties sober > and > >> im glad you know a lot of people who do as well. i also know a lot > of > >> sober partiers and often am one myself. you *cannot* deny that > there > >> are a shit load of people who do not know how to party sober though > or > >> think that thats what being at a party is all about. the worst part > is > >> that many of these kids are so new to the scene and have never been > to > >> a party sober. these are the kids that she is targeting with her > >> sobriety project. she is also just trying to find out where people > >> are coming from in terms of partying and drug use. many have never > >> done anything at a party and some have never gone sober--the > spectrum > >> is complete in our scene. its all about learning and education. > keep > >> positive. > >> > >> love and happiness > >> sarah > >> > >> >From: MacBunny > >> >To: swati shah > >> >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >> >Subject: Re: Last chance!!!! > >> >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:14:16 -0400 (EDT) > >> > > >> >i'm sorry to sound a little mean about this, but if you think that > >> poeple > >> >on this list and who go to parties need some sort of help to party > >> sober > >> >by asking everyone to "try" going to a party sober or filling out > a > >> >survey or sharing their expiriences, then either you've missed the > >> HUGE > >> >crowd of us that actually DON't to drugs or have stopped, or we > >> really > >> >have a huge problem in our scene that i'm just not aware about > (and i > >> >hope this isn't the case.) most of my friends, including myself, > >> have > >> >done our expirimenting in the past, and i'm not going to get down > on > >> >anyone for that, that is just a normal part of growing up. but > >> >taking expirimentation too far to reach addiction is one other > thing. > >> > >> >maybe i'm lucky to have a group of friends who have decided that > >> drugs > >> >are boring when over done (just like i have.) maybe the amount of > >> druged > >> >up kids, e-ing balls and rolling on the floor mask all of us > "sober" > >> >ravers. i put that word in quotes because it is all relative. > >> honestly, > >> >i don't NEED drugs to feel high. i've learned to do that just > fine > >> on my > >> >own. i still feel high as fuck when i'm at a party! but maybe > >> that's > >> >off the music, my excitement, the energy of everyone around me. > >> everyone > >> >is going to go through their phase of trying drugs and > expiramenting, > >> >especially when they first start partying, and even after that > poeple > >> >will still do stuff occasionally (this is what i've noticed among > >> MANY > >> >poeple i've talked to, i'm not just trying to make a > generalization > >> of > >> >everyone in the scene because of course there are exceptions.) i > >> guess > >> >if you're ready to party sober, then go for it! there are many of > us > >> out > >> >there that do, but if you still like getting high, then just be > >> careful, > >> >and remember that when you come down, there are going to be real > life > >> >responibilities you will have to face, like school or work, so > just > >> enjoy > >> >your free time wisely. > >> > > >> >much love, > >> >amber > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, swati shah wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Alright, this is it. This is your last chance to help me with > >> Project > >> >> Bliss. Just to remind you, this is my project to encourage kids > to > >> go to a > >> >> party sober. I feel that every raver should be able to go to a > >> party sober. > >> >> And in my definition, marijuana doesn't count. I'm not saying > that > >> everyone > >> >> should be sober all the time, but give yourself the choice to > take > >> >> something or not. No one should miss a party because they don't > >> want to be > >> >> sober. Its almost a skill, to focus on the music and the vibe > >> rather than > >> >> on just getting as fucked up as possible. but the music is > there, > >> and the > >> >> people are there, to get you as high or higher than anything, if > >> only you > >> >> allow it. > >> >> > >> >> So, this is how you can help me. > >> >> > >> >> 1) If you've never been to a party sober, try it once. Lose > >> yourself to > >> >> the music. And then, email me the next day with your > experience. > >> >> > >> >> 2) If you have been going to parties sober, write me an email > about > >> your > >> >> first sober party, or any experiences you have that you want to > >> share. > >> >> Write to me about your thoughts on the connections between raves > >> and drugs, > >> >> and how you see the relationship evolving through your > experiences. > >> >> > >> >> 3) Everyone, fill out my survey that is attached at the end of > this > >> email > >> >> and send it back to me. Its just about how often you rave, and > how > >> often > >> >> you use certain drugs. Feel free to share any stories you have > with > >> me, I > >> >> love them all. > >> >> > >> >> Of course, everything will be kept confidential. I understand > the > >> fragility > >> >> of some of the issues discussed, and only I will know who > responded > >> how. > >> >> Security is not a problem. Thanks to all who have already > >> responded to me, > >> >> and to all of you who will, I hope. > >> >> > >> >> Love, > >> >> Swati > >> >> > >> > > >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ------ > >> >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't > >> know, > >> >is the characteristic of one who knows." > >> > > >> >amber perry-mcquown > >> > > >> >akp2@acpub.duke.edu > >> >amber@earthling.net > >> >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > >> > > >> >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ------ > >> > > >> > >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 02:39:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12944 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 02:39:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 12932 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 02:39:18 -0000 Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (207.69.200.31) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 02:39:18 -0000 Received: from mbruton (pool-209-138-193-6.nwrk.grid.net [209.138.193.6]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18911; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904150238.WAA18911@smtp1.mindspring.com> From: "Michael Bruton" To: , , , , Subject: Inhalants Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:43:15 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey kids- not to take away from fun, but inhalants are (generally) bad. Very bad. Glue, aerosols, etc all do wondrous brain damage due to hypoxia and other fun conditions; a lot of solvents are now being studied for causing long-term tumors/lesions; and things like Rush or "Video Tape Head Cleaner" (don't ask) are being investigated for possible implications with Auto Immune Deficiency Disorders and the like... all in all, i have yet to hear about a safe inhalant. (It seems like many of you are inclined towards the Vicks; that seems to be ok :) ) it's your life, but be warned -> the views you have on the 'value of healthy longevity' now may NOT be the same in a few years... and believe me, you can *always* make the decision to ruin your health; much harder to reverse... have fun, go nuts, but be a bit wiser each time... ---------- > From: CanContrl@aol.com > To: stephanie@Cybergold.COM; wil_hanno@hotmail.com; Guybear1@aol.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: Li'L BoTtLeS??? RE: does anyone know any other E tricks? > Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 12:40 PM > > hmmm sniffin a bottle ???...u dont rem. what it was becuase u passed > out??...or maybe u where sniffing glue? > lol jk... > dean* > > << Hrmm... I remember a long time ago Dina gave me some sort of little bottle > to sniff and I almost fell on the floor... what was it again? I don't > remember ... someone said it was REFINED ROCKET FUEL but I'm not too sure if > that's what it really was... > > *steph* > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 02:46:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17525 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 02:46:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 17512 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 02:46:20 -0000 Received: from web222.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 02:46:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415024550.6918.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.118.204] by web222.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:45:50 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:45:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Inhalants To: Michael Bruton , CanContrl@aol.com, stephanie@Cybergold.COM, wil_hanno@hotmail.com, Guybear1@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Do you know what else is very pleasant safe and effective? I used to carry around a scent box. Do you know what that is? It is a little box with holes in the top. You can put something in it that smells good to you, and carry it in your pocket. I had one that had scented amber resin inside of it. I would bring it will me everywhere. I could put the resin on and wear it as a perfume, or when I would be in the middle of a crowd feeling as though I'd pass out from the lack of oxygen, I pull this box out of my pocket and breath it in deeply. Stuff like that is just fun to enjoy as well for no particular reason. Pleasure yourself because it is fun to, but there is not need to kill yourself doing so.love,Julie --- Michael Bruton wrote: > Hey kids- > > not to take away from fun, but inhalants are > (generally) bad. Very bad. > > Glue, aerosols, etc all do wondrous brain damage due > to hypoxia and other > fun conditions; > > a lot of solvents are now being studied for causing > long-term > tumors/lesions; > > and things like Rush or "Video Tape Head Cleaner" > (don't ask) are being > investigated for possible implications with Auto > Immune Deficiency > Disorders and the like... > > all in all, i have yet to hear about a safe > inhalant. (It seems like many > of you are inclined towards the Vicks; that seems to > be ok :) ) > > it's your life, but be warned -> the views you have > on the 'value of > healthy longevity' now may NOT be the same in a few > years... and believe > me, you can *always* make the decision to ruin your > health; much harder to > reverse... > > have fun, go nuts, but be a bit wiser each time... > > > > > ---------- > > From: CanContrl@aol.com > > To: stephanie@Cybergold.COM; > wil_hanno@hotmail.com; Guybear1@aol.com; > sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: Li'L BoTtLeS??? RE: does anyone > know any other E tricks? > > Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 12:40 PM > > > > hmmm sniffin a bottle ???...u dont rem. what it > was becuase u passed > > out??...or maybe u where sniffing glue? > > lol jk... > > dean* > > > > << Hrmm... I remember a long time ago Dina gave me > some sort of little > bottle > > to sniff and I almost fell on the floor... what > was it again? I don't > > remember ... someone said it was REFINED ROCKET > FUEL but I'm not too > sure if > > that's what it really was... > > > > *steph* > > >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 02:49:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18492 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 02:49:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 18481 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 02:49:14 -0000 Received: from ns1.gp1holdings.com (root@209.31.236.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 02:49:14 -0000 Received: from [172.29.18.219] (toscana-209-79-56-111.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.79.56.111]) by ns1.gp1holdings.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA19533; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:39:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199904141908.MAA09722@mail.netwiz.net> References: Your message of Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:44:59 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:53:12 -0700 To: npm@netwiz.net From: jason Subject: Re: enjoy the sun today! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >turbotax, and an unfinished form 6969 "time-value of bartered services >incurred via stud-fees during cat-breeding season"... Birds are What's this? Are you in on the twisty-cat conspiracy too? J. ....................... cognitive@iname.com "Homer no function beer well icq sucks without." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 03:40:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7745 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 03:40:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 7725 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 03:40:26 -0000 Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 03:40:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415033638.12525.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.118.204] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:36:38 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:36:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Geri Dahl Subject: Re: Being sober..at a rave To: Jessica Webster , Oct1faith@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am still not clear on what my views are on the whole drug thing. I think if a person is going to ingest a hallucinogen, that they shouldn't just limit themselves to doing so at a rave party. I think that moderation is important, and having some idea of what you'd like to get out of the experience is important too. I agree that no one should take drugs just because a friend or even someone from the medical profession suggests to. Your body is sacred. So is your mind. Treat yourself like the god or goddess you are.love,Julie --- Jessica Webster wrote: > THANK YOU for that. > > I am almost always "sober" at raves, parties, > whatnot. I've done E three > times in my life - twice when it first became > available (1984 or '85) and I > was given 2 grams to swallow right thenandthere, and > almost died both ti > (convulsions, irregular heartbeat, absolutely no > control of breathing, > autonomic functions seeming like they required > concentration, everything > visually in an orange & purple shaking grid), and > once in '97 at the > pleading of some friends. > > Don't beg your friends to do drugs with you if they > tell you they have an > aversion - no matter how psychological this aversion > - to those particular > drugs. It will only provide vast disappointment for > yourself and your pal, > and will probably also get you puked upon. > > Anyway: I don't do E. I had my day/week/month/years > with acid way back > when. THC has an LSD affect on me these days. My > doors of perception are > plenty wide open. > > SO - I am usually very clearheaded when I go out. > Perhaps I am wide awake, > even. This makes me more critical of some events - > say alot of F8 or TnJF > massives - and probably more appreciative of others. > > When I make friends, I make them for real, not just > for a night or a > backrub. When I hear and feel and see the music, > it's because the person > on the decks is a deity (Jeno! Sage! Christopher > Lawrence! Noel! Ethan! > etcetcetc!) and not because I have an e-crush on > them (M&M!). When I > shake my booty it's with clearminded passion, not > synthetic delerium. > > This isn't to detract from synthetic delerium, mind > you. > > Just know that, if you see me dancing when you're > performing, I'm tripping > on *you*, and that you are what I came to the party > for, vs. just using it > as a venue for doing my drugs or picking up on > folks. > > Urgh I wanna go play in the sun, > > Jessica > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 03:41:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8593 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 03:41:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 8582 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 03:41:32 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 03:41:32 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vAIVa07510 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:40:08 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: <7cce220a.2446b998@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:40:08 EDT Subject: [NRR] What's a DJ? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey plur people... I was wondering is a DJ a person that mixes music, or makes music?? Or is it a complation of both??=20 What's the title of the person that makes music? Thanks for any help... ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 *P*L*U*R*=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 03:42:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9349 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 03:42:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9337 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 03:42:07 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 03:42:07 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vCXHa14441; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:40:49 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:40:49 EDT Subject: Re: man in the moon $ = better tickle? To: Pogobee@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk my feedback..... they're greedy :0 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 03:47:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13255 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 03:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 13107 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 03:47:44 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 03:47:44 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3AOGa20584; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:45:53 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <58f3aa26.2446baf1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:45:53 EDT Subject: Re: New 2 SF scene-- ( ANGEL ALANIS! ) To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, madhav@table.jps.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thi bad boy ROCKS! tension factor! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 03:54:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16405 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 03:54:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 16392 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 03:54:47 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 03:54:47 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vBOTa02490; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:53:51 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:53:51 EDT Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? To: JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im sorry and this is sooo awful to do but. . . HAHHAHAHAHAAHA uh and yeah plur?ok bye! Subj: [NRR] What's a DJ? Date: 99-04-14 23:41:41 EDT From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Reply-to: JanetBoy7@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Hey plur people... I was wondering is a DJ a person that mixes music, or makes music?? Or is it a complation of both?? What's the title of the person that makes music? Thanks for any help... ~#*.:•{LoVe JanetBoy}•:.*#~ *P*L*U*R* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 03:56:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18170 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 03:56:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 18150 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 03:56:46 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 03:56:46 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rEGLa15519; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:49:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <58f3cd1e.2446bbc2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:49:22 EDT Subject: Re: Catch the KUNG-FU KNOWLEDGE TOUR To: futurebreaks@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/14/99 8:13:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, futurebreaks@yahoo.com writes: << *THE DNA LOUNGE @ 375 11th Street, SF* *10PM to 3AM* *21+* *$12* >> =*******( why this year???????????????????????? DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 03:57:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19260 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 03:57:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 19248 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 03:57:42 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 03:57:42 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vSZVa21404; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:56:15 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <424ce530.2446bd5f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:56:15 EDT Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? To: SpinDazE@aol.com, JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk how long have u been partying or living Mr. Micheal Jackson?...or oops jannette jackson?..or no actually how long have u been living??..my freakin parents know what a dj is..sorry to be rude From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 03:58:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20054 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 03:58:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 20035 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 03:58:40 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 03:58:40 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7VOOa20575; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:57:44 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <2155bdea.2446bdb8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:57:44 EDT Subject: Re: headphones To: psober@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk um, get sony studio professionals :] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 04:07:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23505 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 04:07:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 23493 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 04:07:00 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 04:07:00 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vWOZa27509; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:06:24 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:06:24 EDT Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? To: JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, a dj is a DISK JOCKEY, the spin vinyl on turntables n a mixer, no? alot of them make music, and most likely and one who makes and produces their own music is a dj, so ya know.... im tired i dont feel like typing, sorry :] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 04:09:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24446 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 04:08:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 24437 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 04:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 04:08:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 57326 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 04:08:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415040829.57325.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.133 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:08:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.133] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:08:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk someone who mixes music is a DJ. someone who makes music is a producer. love lia >From: JanetBoy7@aol.com >Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: [NRR] What's a DJ? >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:40:08 EDT > >Hey plur people... > >I was wondering is a DJ a person that mixes music, or makes music?? > >Or is it a complation of both?? >What's the title of the person that makes music? > >Thanks for any help... > >~#*.:•{LoVe JanetBoy}•:.*#~ > > >*P*L*U*R* > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 04:17:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29366 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 04:17:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 29138 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 04:17:35 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 04:17:35 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vRACa12394 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:15:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:15:38 EDT Subject: Anyone know anyhting about Community? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 15 Reply-To: Fine19boy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK I was at Jamba Juice this afternoon getting something yummy for to drink while I ran errands all day on this bright and sunny day, when some guy randomly comes up to me and asks me "Have you ever gone to a party up in SF on Wednesday nights called Community up at 1015 Folsom St.?" think thats the address he said) I looked at him kinda puzzled and replied "No I haven't why?" and he said "Well its just your dressed like someone who would be going to that party." Now I am dressed in my kikwear-big-huge-fun-pants, a really tight black t-shirt with yellow letters saying "stellar" on it and a light blue\white\black zip up hooded sweatshirt on. After saying that he smiled and quickly bolted out of the door looking like he was embarrassed. So I get my yum-drink and leave I am just curious if any of you know what Community is. I did not get to ask him and I am wondering what this "party" is like and why exactly i look like i am going to one by my clothing type Just wondering :) If anyone knows anything bout it just let me know Thanks ~T From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 04:17:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29750 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 04:17:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 29169 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 04:17:36 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 04:17:36 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 8HJVa26459; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:16:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:16:13 EDT Subject: Re: Tickle OD's To: nico@entic.net CC: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey man. . . I fix Kinko's copiers, I get all my stuff for free (if I had any stuff to get). BEyoutihFULL HUGZzzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 04:17:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29873 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 04:17:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29685 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 04:17:47 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 04:17:47 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vYGUa18500 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:15:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <96e2adc3.2446c1fd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:15:57 EDT Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wasnt going to do this. But everyone else did. hahaha. A Dj=Disc Jockey. Someone who jocks discs. And then someone who makes music usually produces music. And someone who promotes. Aww naw. Thats to complicated. Right Vlad? Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 04:23:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5384 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 04:23:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 5368 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 04:23:53 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 04:23:53 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vHTOa20584; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:21:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <14bb81c5.2446c35b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:21:47 EDT Subject: Re: Anyone know anyhting about Community? To: Fine19boy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1015 Folsom is the address of a club. Youll probably hear it mentioned alot. Each night the club is promoted by different people with different dj's and different genres of music. And each night seems to have a bit of a different crowd. I happen to like 1015. But you will find many people who dont. No flames please. To each his own remember. Peace, M PS its 21+ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 04:24:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6392 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 04:24:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 6366 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 04:24:17 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 04:24:17 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA16695; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for charity.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 04:31:18 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:23:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'Fine19boy@aol.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Anyone know anyhting about Community? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:23:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Come-Unity is Ten15 at its best. every first wed of the month, with residents jeno, simon, and... forgot the third one. in any case, it's always great music, great people, and great vibe. 21+ though. loic > -----Original Message----- > From: Fine19boy@aol.com [SMTP:Fine19boy@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 9:16 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Anyone know anyhting about Community? > > OK I was at Jamba Juice this afternoon getting something yummy for to > drink > while I ran errands all day on this bright and sunny day, when some guy > randomly comes up to me and asks me > "Have you ever gone to a party up in SF on Wednesday nights called > Community > up at 1015 Folsom St.?" think thats the address he said) > I looked at him kinda puzzled and replied > "No I haven't why?" > and he said > "Well its just your dressed like someone who would be going to that > party." > Now I am dressed in my kikwear-big-huge-fun-pants, a really tight black > t-shirt with yellow letters saying "stellar" on it and a light > blue\white\black zip up hooded sweatshirt on. > After saying that he smiled and quickly bolted out of the door looking > like > he was embarrassed. > So I get my yum-drink and leave > I am just curious if any of you know what Community is. I did not get to > ask > him and I am wondering what this "party" is like and why exactly i look > like > i am going to one by my clothing type > Just wondering > :) If anyone knows anything bout it just let me know > Thanks > ~T > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 04:31:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10097 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 04:31:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 10083 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 04:30:59 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 04:30:59 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vRWCa16622; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:29:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:29:36 EDT Subject: Re: Anyone know anyhting about Community? To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 15 Reply-To: Fine19boy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well dont worry i had no intention of flaming it ok its 21+ that pretty much excludes me from it. oh well. at least peeps think i look over 21 :) thanks ~T From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 05:19:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 419 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 05:19:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 258 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 05:19:44 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 05:19:44 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vDLDa17882 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:19:03 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:19:03 EDT Subject: 5-HTP Questions To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 54 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay, so I know the hype about this has died down, but, I'm tired of my 20 hits of e not working anymore and am willing to try almost anything that may work, So I have a few q's for anyone that may know! 1- Does it really enhance E... 2- haow much to you take at a time... 3- how long before dropping e do you take it... 4- how safe is it 5- anything else anyone may know.... I need this info by Sat if possible... thanx in advance. - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 05:32:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6636 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 05:32:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 6626 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 05:32:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anlsf.com) (206.79.166.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 05:32:32 -0000 Received: from astrojax ([206.79.166.2]) by anlsf.com (Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) with SMTP id 88256754.001EA6C8; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:34:48 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990414222339.00910190@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:23:39 -0700 To: binary fineboy From: deepbeep Subject: Re: Weds nite ... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, frequency-8@squinky.org In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990414180419.03a35ac0@shell4.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yup, here we go again... O-town's the ghetto ;) :::hugs & a flak jacket::: d. >if I can save one person wasting a drive to the ghetto ... my time here has >not been wasted > >ryan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 05:35:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8296 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 05:35:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 8287 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 05:35:12 -0000 Received: from law-f229.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 05:35:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 35336 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 05:34:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415053442.35335.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.210.62 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:34:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.210.62] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Anyone know anyhting about Community? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:34:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >residents jeno, simon, and... forgot the third one. in any case, Garth. K Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 05:35:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8600 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 05:35:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 8442 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 05:35:17 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 05:35:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415053538.25837.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.212.64.100] by web135.yahoomail.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:35:38 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:35:38 -0700 (PDT) From: lynz Subject: METROPOLIS TIX online? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i bet it's probably pretty save and accountable.. but just to be sure, i want to ask you guys your opinion on buying tickets online at www.sfrecords.com... anyone have any experiences to share? im curious.. cuz it seems very convenient and I want to buy metropolis tickets online later anyways... so..??? thanks! Lynz === "I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:07:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23029 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:07:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 23020 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:07:51 -0000 Received: from f300.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.211) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:07:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 13756 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 06:07:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415060724.13755.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:07:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:07:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey... learn to use a search engine...and try eating it after...it helps restore your seratonin levels back to normal...thats why you would take it.. http://herbshop.com/5htpfact.htm http://www.medquestpharmacy.com/5-htp.htm http://www.pharmwest.com/5-hydroxy.html got it from www.yahoo.com you also may want to look into the hyperreal drug archives...or maybe search through a few others...and learn about what your taking and how works... knowledge is power...use the tools that are there for you...you dont have to remember it...but if you know how to find it...its always there for you... aaron >From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com >Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: 5-HTP Questions >Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:19:03 EDT > >okay, so I know the hype about this has died down, but, I'm tired of my 20 >hits of e not working anymore and am willing to try almost anything that may >work, So I have a few q's for anyone that may know! 1- Does it really enhance >E... 2- haow much to you take at a time... 3- how long before dropping e do >you take it... 4- how safe is it 5- anything else anyone may know.... I need >this info by Sat if possible... thanx in advance. - Jenn Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:08:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24725 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:08:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 24717 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:08:43 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:08:43 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7LOUa20339; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:08:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <1b5fc40.2446dc42@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:08:02 EDT Subject: Re: Tickle OD's To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think it is a good idea to pass out phamplet son the drugs peopel take at raves. trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:11:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26403 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:11:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 26393 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:11:52 -0000 Received: from law-f30.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.93) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:11:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 18083 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 06:11:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415061125.18082.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.97 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:11:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.97] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? need help? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:11:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk awwww, you are sooo cute with all your stupid questions . . How old are you????? 5 years old?? I can hardly think that you are any older!!! You want to know where the party is fine. info # available on the flyer. you don't remember how to get to that one place fine, after the party is there I'll give you the directions. It's just a space you can look at it too!!! Don't remember what city you were in??? well you can't drive or you'd know and you don't pay attention or you'd know. Maybe it was too many drugs, lay offa them yeah? You want to know what a dj is??????? this is stupid, you don't party you don't go to raves you just want to expose this scene. want me to tell you where I get my E you dip??? I could give the #of the biggest dealer in town. whatever. . . !!!!! In anycase I had to rant at this alter ego just 'cuz this person is sitting and laughing at the rest of us who respond to him/her. . . well, keep laughing cause the joke is definitely on us. . . . !!!! however your humor needs upgrading and aimed at the knowledgable group that composes this list. peace Raoul 'the wiseman' >From: JanetBoy7@aol.com >Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: [NRR] What's a DJ? >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:40:08 EDT > >Hey plur people... > >I was wondering is a DJ a person that mixes music, or makes music?? > >Or is it a complation of both?? >What's the title of the person that makes music? > >Thanks for any help... > >~#*.:•{LoVe JanetBoy}•:.*#~ > > >*P*L*U*R* Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:19:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29505 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:19:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 29469 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:19:22 -0000 Received: from law-f64.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.127) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:19:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 2249 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 06:18:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415061855.2248.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.97 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:18:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.97] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:18:53 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey jenn 5-htp is for recovery after the rave to restore all the stuff you lost, soooo I guess that would mean it counteracts the effects of E. Ya think ?? give it some more thought, k???? also handy tip from someone who knows. . .don;t buy from the ghetto kids hawking their wares in your face they never have good stuff. Find someone you know know's some good people and have them direct you in the right direction. Try finding a fellow sfr member they will find someone who can definitely get your E ball rollin' you know what I mean?????? Peace and Love Raoul Trancebaby NBC we are the future see you at HARMONY Peace >From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com >Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: 5-HTP Questions >Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:19:03 EDT > >okay, so I know the hype about this has died down, but, I'm tired of my 20 >hits of e not working anymore and am willing to try almost anything that may >work, So I have a few q's for anyone that may know! 1- Does it really enhance >E... 2- haow much to you take at a time... 3- how long before dropping e do >you take it... 4- how safe is it 5- anything else anyone may know.... I need >this info by Sat if possible... thanx in advance. - Jenn Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:25:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3109 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:25:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 3095 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:25:17 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd100.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.164) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 46857 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 06:24:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415062450.46856.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.209.98 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:24:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.209.98] From: "Justin Hale" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: david blaine magicman Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:24:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just saw the coolest magician on tha tube... David Blaine pretty unreal... anybody else catch this? justin *still in awe* Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:27:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4416 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:27:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 4321 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:27:50 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:27:50 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iLLEa17884; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:26:47 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <2c3515a3.2446e0a7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:26:47 EDT Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? need help? To: trancebaby@hotmail.com, JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wow, that made lotsa sense, this guy is tight! good job sherlock :D From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:28:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5491 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:28:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 5483 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:28:48 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:28:48 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vTDCa20343 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:27:58 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: <1d6e7636.2446e0ee@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:27:58 EDT Subject: Between the lines... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DAM!! =09Some people do not know how to read between the lines... "What's a=20 DJ" was the SUBJECT headline!!! It was NOT a question. =09 =09Let me restate the question I was trying to get across. For the=20 people who think I don't know what a DJ is!!??!! (I guess I always thought=20 they were playing a CD at raves??) and just to let you I'm being sarcastic=20 right now.. =09Actually, I don't think it's worth my time or your time, on what kind=20 of question I was trying to ask. But to everybody who responded to my e mail THANKS for L & R in PLUR Love & Respect ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 *P*L*U*R*=20 <> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:30:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6679 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:30:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 6658 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:30:23 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:30:23 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iFXKa14441; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:27:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <63203d40.2446e0c7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:27:19 EDT Subject: Re: david blaine magicman To: simplycosmic@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just watched that too! it was so tight! this magician is really good, the only one i was really able to figure out was the one where he took the chickens head off. i think hes pretty cute too! if you get a chance to watch it, do it. hes really good. trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:31:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7912 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:31:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7902 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:31:57 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:31:57 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iQZVa12393; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:29:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <3fa39f91.2446e144@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:29:24 EDT Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? need help? To: trancebaby@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have to agree with him. hes right! trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:35:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9283 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:35:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 9271 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:35:13 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:35:13 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D78QVLKZ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:34:34 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:50:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? Message-ID: <19990414.235042.2982.0.Trigometric@juno.com> References: <7cce220a.2446b998@aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,4-5,7-8,16-17,20-44 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well. At first it seemed like a silly question but then I started thinking about it. The way I see it is like this. I think that a DJ, when they play, goes into different levels of just playing music and producing music. When a Disk Jock is playing music, I believe it to be just at the points when only one piece of vinyl is on the decks. However, when you have two tracks in harmony with one another and are mixed together, you then are producing another third track. That's how I came to get my DJ name. It has to do with triangles. When you have two opposing forces that are in harmony with one another, they then create a third force that transcends the previous two. I.E., mind and body in harmony create spirt. In a DJ sense, two records beatmatched and in harmony with one another when mixed then create a third, more special track. So, I feel that when a DJ is mixing two records, they're producing music. When they're waiting for one record to play out before mixing the other into it, they're merely playing music. That's the way I see it. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:40:08 EDT JanetBoy7@aol.com writes: >Hey plur people... > >I was wondering is a DJ a person that mixes music, or makes music?? > >Or is it a complation of both??=20 >What's the title of the person that makes music? > >Thanks for any help... > >~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 > > =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 >*P*L*U*R*=20 > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:41:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13561 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:41:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13549 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:41:26 -0000 Received: from netcom12.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.124) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:41:26 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom12.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id XAA15751; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:41:23 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? To: JanetBoy7@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <7cce220a.2446b998@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk a Disk Jockey, or DJ, is someone who plays recordings of music for folks. a musician is someone who makes music. :o) On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 JanetBoy7@aol.com wrote: > Hey plur people... >=20 > I was wondering is a DJ a person that mixes music, or makes music?? >=20 > Or is it a complation of both??=20 > What's the title of the person that makes music? >=20 > Thanks for any help... >=20 > ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 >=20 > =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=20 > *P*L*U*R*=20 >=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- GTA - "The Parti EP" Orbit Trnsmission 007 available now at your local record shop. info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 06:53:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18236 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 06:53:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18226 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 06:53:19 -0000 Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.84) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 06:53:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415065349.16804.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [169.237.16.144] by web113.yahoomail.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:53:49 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:53:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Andria Maderious Subject: NRR: FW: Be careful! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >I think we all pride ourselves on being observant. > However, this message > >just reminded me of the need to pay more attention > when driving. Ladies or > >Gents to pass along to female family > members/friends: > >In case you haven't seen the following...please > read...very important for > >your safety. > > > >I headed for home by myself at approximately 10pm. > I was...between > >exits...when a car pulled into the right most lane > beside me (I was in the > >center lane) and started matching speeds with me. > After a minute, I tried > >to slow down so he would pass. He slowed, too. I > regained my previous > >speed, and he sped up with me. Finally after a > few minutes of > >this, he pulled slightly ahead of me, rolled down > his window and motioned > >towards my tire as though something was wrong. The > man had already begun to > >make me nervous by driving along side me for some > distance on the mostly > >empty highway, and now my training took over. > "This man is trying to get > >me off the road by myself here in the dark," I > thought. > > > >This, in case you are unfamiliar with the area, is > basically the middle of > >nowhere. I know my car. I am very careful with > maintenance, and I am an > >experienced driver. I know what a flat tire feels > like. I knew my car was > >fine. I put on my turn signal and moved to the > right-most lane behind the > >man anyway and slowed down slightly (there is > always the chance > >that something could have been wrong, better to be > prepared). The other > >car pulled onto the shoulder and started slowing > down. Now I knew he was > >definitely trying to get me to pull over. I > passed him, he swerved back > >on the road and drove right behind me. At the next > exit, there were two > >gas stations. They were well lit and there were a > few people there. I > >exited, he followed. Not only this, but a car I > had not previously > >noticed, that was in front of us suddenly swerved > off the exit when I put > >my turn signal on. I know this scenario. I grew > up in some pretty bad > >areas. I have had training in this. At this > point, everything I had > >learned was in control. I decided not to stop > anywhere. By now there was > >absolutely no doubt that my car was fine. > > > >When we approached the stop sign at the dark, empty > intersection after the > >gas stations, the car ahead of me put on his left > turn signal and stopped. > >I checked for traffic as I approached the > intersection, then pulled around > >him to the right, and headed straight back for the > highway. Both the car > >that had been ahead and the one that had been > following me turned left > >across the highway and did not pursue further. > >I have now carefully checked my car in a safe place > when I knew I was no > >longer being followed. It is in perfect > condition. This is a classic > >scenario for car jackers to use at night. I feel > lucky that I was well > >prepared and didn't have to think too much about > what to do. > > > >1. Don't ever let yourself be caught between two > cars. Car jackers often > >work in pairs, attempting to corner your vehicle. > > > >2. Don't ever pull off the road at night by > yourself in a dark, > >unpopulated place. > > > >3. Carry a cell phone - I'm going to get one!! > > > >4. Stay calm. Don't try any tricks. If you are > in an accident,you are > >vulnerable. > > > >5. Remember that most criminals want easy > victims...DON'T LET YOURSELF > >BECOME ONE!!! > > > >6. Make sure you find out how to react BEFORE you > are in the situation! > >These situations are unfortunately real and > dangerous. Thinking about it > >when it > >happens is too late! > > > >7. ALWAYS make sure you do not stop until you are > CERTAIN that help is > >present (i.e., even if you are in a slight > accident, head straight for the > >police station, > >and don't stop until you are there. Car jackers > often slightly damage > >vehicles by > >bumping them from the rear to try to get the driver > to get out.) > >GOOD ENOUGH TO READ? PASS IT ON! > > > >KAREN L CAMPBELL > >Attorney at Law > >EMail: Karen.L.Campbell@sdma.com > >Sedgwick, Detert, Moran & Arnold > >New York, NY USA > > Another warning I received which we would all do well to take into consideration: >>>>>> I hate to pass this on, but maybe it is >>>>>> important..................>>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Alert In Public Areas >>>>>> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 10:44AM>>>>>> >>>>>> MAJOR OUCH!!! BECAREFUL!---->>>>>> >>>>>> For your information, a couple of weeks>>>>>> ago, in a Dallas >>>>>> movie theater, a person sat on something sharp in>>>>>> one of the seats. >>>>>> When she stood up to see what it was, a>>>>>> needle was found >>>>>> poking through the seat with an attached note>>>>>> saying, " You have >>>>>> been infected with HIV". >>>>>> The Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta >>>>>> reports similar>>>>>> events have taken place in several other cities >>>>>> recently. All of the >>>>>> needles tested HAVE been positive for HIV. The>>>>>> CDC also reports >>>>>> that needles have been found in the coin return>>>>>> areas of pay phones >>>>>> and>>>>>> soda machines. >>>>>> Everyone is asked to use extreme caution>>>>>> when confronted >>>>>> with>>>>>> these types of situations. All public chairs should >>>>>> be thoroughly >>>>>> but >>>>>> safely inspected prior to any use. A thorough>>>>>> visual inspection is >>>>>> considered the bare minimum. Furthermore, they ask>>>>>> that everyone >>>>>> notify>>>>>> their family members and friends of the potential >>>>>> dangers, as well.>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> The previous information was sent from the>>>>>> Dallas Police >>>>>> Department to all of the local governments in the>>>>>> Washington area >>>>>> and>>>>>> was interdepartmentally >>>>>> dispersed. We were all asked to pass this to as >>>>>> many people as>>>>>> possible.>>>>>> > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 07:13:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24651 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 07:13:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24643 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 07:13:06 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 07:13:06 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id oSICa27567; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:12:33 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: <62d68118.2446eb61@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:12:33 EDT Subject: DJ SchmeeJay. Questions vs. Lying To: trigometric@juno.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Reply-To: MissNexa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i like the way you present this. Thank you for not putting him down for not knowing something. It's the lil things like that that force other people to come off into the scene all hard-assed and self-righteous (not the only reason, but a factor... ). Would you rather have him flat out come off *putting up a front* (lying about how much knowledge he knows about music/raves/etc/etc), or just flat out ask and admit that he doesnt know? At least give this guy some respect for being honest (you ARE honest, arent you?). .. I mean, I can't imagine someone LYING about not knowing what a DJ is (I would expect quite the polar opposite, actually). When I keep listening to tapes over and over and over, I hear and memorize the mixes... and then when I get there chillin to it all in person, I'll hear a song, expect the same mix, and most of the times it surprises me that one mix could change the whole attitude/feeling of the set. Ahh the elemt of surprise can take one's breath away at times. But it DOES make me curious as to how one goes to parties but doesn't know what a DJ is... One mo' day 'til FRIDAY! Yeeeee hawwwwww junior prom here I come! Hope everyone has fun at 66 MHz n harmony. I wanted to see some whacked out Djs bumpin' some tek-nO () From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 07:17:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25976 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 07:17:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 25967 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 07:17:09 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 07:17:09 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 3HWKa21395 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:16:16 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: <6542b80a.2446ec40@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:16:16 EDT Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanx... definiately had my e ball rollin plenty of times... problem is that I've taken e many times... it doesn't affect me the same any more, even after 6-8 week breaks, I can take the same shit as my friendz and hardly feel it while they're "rollin of hills and over cliffs" if u know what i mean... Yes I understand the tolerance factor, thing is, I'm too scared to take two hits at a time... sorta even to take 1 1/2... n e ways, the 5 - HTP E-mail on enhancement got sent to me by some one... I was just tryin to verify or in this case unverify it!!! thanx again all - keep shit rollin in, I am still interested to hear what others have to say!!! - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 07:19:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26929 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 07:19:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 26900 invoked by uid 233); 15 Apr 1999 07:19:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25507 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 01:03:43 -0000 Received: from mail-gw6.pacbell.net (206.13.28.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 01:03:43 -0000 Received: from compoundrecords.com (ppp-207-214-220-247.snfc21.pacbell.net [207.214.220.247]) by mail-gw6.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id SAA02813; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37153C4C.D5F3BDA4@compoundrecords.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:09:37 -0700 From: Compound Office X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: what's a rewind.... References: <8af216bb.244666f6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OoNOTlKo0@aol.com wrote: > forgive my ignorance in advance but...whats a rewind? i hear it alot and > feel i should know it .... > > -aaron a rewind is when the dj literally "rewinds" the record with his/her hand after the drop because it's so good that the crowd wants to hear it from the beginning again.... it's mainly used within the reggae/dancehall/drum 'n bass scenes. here's an example: intro of the record....pause (some eerie strings)...BAM phat phat bass sounds/crazy beats. crowd: "wooooooo yeahhhhhhh shiiiiiiiit" mc: "selecta selecta, REWINDDDDDDD!" :) flux From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 07:22:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28379 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 07:22:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 28363 invoked by uid 233); 15 Apr 1999 07:22:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 12083 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 03:46:52 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 03:46:52 -0000 Received: from wenet.net (root@libya-193.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.193]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA03511; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904150346.UAA03511@smtp.wenet.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:52:13 -0700 From: boing <"b-young"@wenet.net (remove -)> Organization: boingdom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JanetBoy7@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? References: <7cce220a.2446b998@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk JanetBoy7@aol.com wrote: > > Hey plur people... > > I was wondering is a DJ a person that mixes music, or makes music?? > > Or is it a complation of both?? > What's the title of the person that makes music? > dj - disc-jockey, "plays" music. the person that makes music? "we are the *music makers*, and we are, the dreamers..." 8-) -- "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, and you will have his shoes." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 07:27:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1134 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 07:27:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 1121 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 07:27:25 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 07:27:25 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id wGTOa25416; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:26:46 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:26:46 EDT Subject: Re: what's a rewind.... To: compound@compoundrecords.com, OoNOTlKo0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk mc jamalski no doubt, hiya hiya hiya!... cmon cmon get get in get in; rewind that email 1 more time fluxie boy.... tear it up at metropolis for me, no? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 13:41:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11744 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 13:41:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 11721 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 13:40:56 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 13:40:56 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA06814 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:40:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca5-145.ix.netcom.com(209.109.234.145) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006773; Thu Apr 15 08:40:03 1999 Message-ID: <3715996A.E75@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:47:28 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: Being sober..at a rave] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On the entire topic of drugs I basically feel that it's every persons private business, if someone chooses to take something(whether it be at a party or not) then thats their responsability to know and understand exactly what is going into they're body- I know that it's somewhat disgusting(and humerous) to see a young person(or old) wide eyed cheesy smile on their face and walking around telling everyone how much they love them. But let these people do they're thing...Give it time, they'll grow out of it, or build up a tolerance to a point in which they won't be acting like such a lame ass. It also seems that most people that are straight edge are somewhat hypecritical becuase of the fact that at one point or another they either did drugs or they had tried a drug(s). I definatly do agree that the drugs do not make the party and if thats the only reason that your having a good time then you're going for the worng reasons. Thats all I got to say, PeaceOut and Much Love Elizabeth Geri Dahl wrote: > > I am still not clear on what my views are on the whole drug thing. I > think if a person is going to ingest a hallucinogen, that they > shouldn't just limit themselves to doing so at a rave party. I think > that moderation is important, and having some idea of what you'd like > to get out of the experience is important too. I agree that no one > should take drugs just because a friend or even someone from the > medical profession suggests to. Your body is sacred. So is your mind. > Treat yourself like the god or goddess you are.love,Julie > > --- Jessica Webster wrote: > > THANK YOU for that. > > > > I am almost always "sober" at raves, parties, > > whatnot. I've done E three > > times in my life - twice when it first became > > available (1984 or '85) and I > > was given 2 grams to swallow right thenandthere, and > > almost died both ti > > (convulsions, irregular heartbeat, absolutely no > > control of breathing, > > autonomic functions seeming like they required > > concentration, everything > > visually in an orange & purple shaking grid), and > > once in '97 at the > > pleading of some friends. > > > > Don't beg your friends to do drugs with you if they > > tell you they have an > > aversion - no matter how psychological this aversion > > - to those particular > > drugs. It will only provide vast disappointment for > > yourself and your pal, > > and will probably also get you puked upon. > > > > Anyway: I don't do E. I had my day/week/month/years > > with acid way back > > when. THC has an LSD affect on me these days. My > > doors of perception are > > plenty wide open. > > > > SO - I am usually very clearheaded when I go out. > > Perhaps I am wide awake, > > even. This makes me more critical of some events - > > say alot of F8 or TnJF > > massives - and probably more appreciative of others. > > > > When I make friends, I make them for real, not just > > for a night or a > > backrub. When I hear and feel and see the music, > > it's because the person > > on the decks is a deity (Jeno! Sage! Christopher > > Lawrence! Noel! Ethan! > > etcetcetc!) and not because I have an e-crush on > > them (M&M!). When I > > shake my booty it's with clearminded passion, not > > synthetic delerium. > > > > This isn't to detract from synthetic delerium, mind > > you. > > > > Just know that, if you see me dancing when you're > > performing, I'm tripping > > on *you*, and that you are what I came to the party > > for, vs. just using it > > as a venue for doing my drugs or picking up on > > folks. > > > > Urgh I wanna go play in the sun, > > > > Jessica > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 13:41:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12015 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 13:41:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 11723 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 13:40:58 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 13:40:58 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA06819 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:40:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca5-145.ix.netcom.com(209.109.234.145) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006788; Thu Apr 15 08:40:11 1999 Message-ID: <37159A2F.441D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:50:09 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: Anyone know anyhting about Community?] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of Community, ---What ever happened to 'By The People' parties??? Fine19boy@aol.com wrote: > > OK I was at Jamba Juice this afternoon getting something yummy for to drink > while I ran errands all day on this bright and sunny day, when some guy > randomly comes up to me and asks me > "Have you ever gone to a party up in SF on Wednesday nights called Community > up at 1015 Folsom St.?" think thats the address he said) > I looked at him kinda puzzled and replied > "No I haven't why?" > and he said > "Well its just your dressed like someone who would be going to that party." > Now I am dressed in my kikwear-big-huge-fun-pants, a really tight black > t-shirt with yellow letters saying "stellar" on it and a light > blue\white\black zip up hooded sweatshirt on. > After saying that he smiled and quickly bolted out of the door looking like > he was embarrassed. > So I get my yum-drink and leave > I am just curious if any of you know what Community is. I did not get to ask > him and I am wondering what this "party" is like and why exactly i look like > i am going to one by my clothing type > Just wondering > :) If anyone knows anything bout it just let me know > Thanks > ~T > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 15:03:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19196 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 15:03:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 19180 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 15:03:40 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 15:03:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (ez060343@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with ESMTP id IAA18277; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:02:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Kenneth Zanotto X-Sender: ez060343@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: Justin Hale cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: david blaine magicman In-Reply-To: <19990415062450.46856.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Did he do the trick where he makes someone levitate and then it ends up making him sick? Ken From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 15:06:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20560 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 15:06:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 20550 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 15:06:21 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 15:06:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (ez060343@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with ESMTP id IAA19000; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:06:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Kenneth Zanotto X-Sender: ez060343@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: Spiral of Evolution cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? In-Reply-To: <19990414.235042.2982.0.Trigometric@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Another take on the djing thing is as follows: I don't think that when someone is just mixing records that they are making music. Does it take skill? Sure it does but so does golf which I still consider a game and not a sport even though I do play. In order to actually make music or utilize the turntable as an instrument, I think you need to be scratching, beat juggling, and really manipulating the turntable. This is just my take. Peace. Ken From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 15:15:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26252 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 15:15:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 26225 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 15:15:40 -0000 Received: from netcom2.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 15:15:40 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom2.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id IAA17251; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:15:22 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: [NRR] Re: david blaine magicman To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i've been a fan of magic/illusion for a long time. i love going to see everyone from the Penn&Teller/David Copperfield/Lance Burton set all the way down to the 8-year-old kid at a birthday party. it's all the same stuff, they're all trying to get the same kinds of reactions from the crowd, and when they do it right, they all make you believe that what you saw in front of you is real, even if you *know* it can't be. in this special, he did levitate some leaves and some money, but not himself this time. Daivd Blaine is really a great magician. it's really amazing to me how he does these illusions right up in people's faces and they come off *so* smooth... and then you see the reaction from the people watching and they are amused, but what you really see is fear! his tricks come off so "real" that they scare people. when you can pull off an illusion that not only amuses, but actually gets to that point of bending reality, then you've crossed the line from being just a magician to being a superb entertainer. i really hope that i get the chance to see him in person some day. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GTA - "The Parti EP" Orbit Trnsmission 007 available now at your local record shop. info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 16:02:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23984 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 16:02:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23789 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 16:02:39 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 16:02:39 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-232.dsp.com [204.118.76.232]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA15496; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:02:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199904151602.JAA15496@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:58:32 -0700 To: etraver@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Being sober..at a rave] In-Reply-To: <3715996A.E75@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey all, Just to clarify, if any got that impression: I am not straight edge. (although I've owned a few Minor Threat records in my time) And I hope not to come off as hypocritical - yes I've done my share of drugs, might still be doing some for all you know. I think some drugs are an important part of the human, and even adolescent, experience. There is a time and a place, tho, ya know, and this list does sometimes look like it should be SFE, not SFR. (Someone made a comment recently that "any of your fellow SFR listers can find you someone who can get your E ball rollin'," which may have made the more reasonably paranoid among us less likely to identify themselves as list-ers at a water bar at 1am...) Jessica > >It also seems that most people that are straight edge are somewhat >hypecritical becuase of the fact that at one point or another they >either did drugs or they had tried a drug(s). I definatly do agree that >the drugs do not make the party and if thats the only reason that your >having a good time then you're going for the worng reasons. > >Thats all I got to say, >PeaceOut and Much Love >Elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > >Geri Dahl wrote: >> >> I am still not clear on what my views are on the whole drug thing. I >> think if a person is going to ingest a hallucinogen, that they >> shouldn't just limit themselves to doing so at a rave party. I think >> that moderation is important, and having some idea of what you'd like >> to get out of the experience is important too. I agree that no one >> should take drugs just because a friend or even someone from the >> medical profession suggests to. Your body is sacred. So is your mind. >> Treat yourself like the god or goddess you are.love,Julie >> >> --- Jessica Webster wrote: >> > THANK YOU for that. >> > >> > I am almost always "sober" at raves, parties, >> > whatnot. I've done E three >> > times in my life - twice when it first became >> > available (1984 or '85) and I >> > was given 2 grams to swallow right thenandthere, and >> > almost died both ti >> > (convulsions, irregular heartbeat, absolutely no >> > control of breathing, >> > autonomic functions seeming like they required >> > concentration, everything >> > visually in an orange & purple shaking grid), and >> > once in '97 at the >> > pleading of some friends. >> > >> > Don't beg your friends to do drugs with you if they >> > tell you they have an >> > aversion - no matter how psychological this aversion >> > - to those particular >> > drugs. It will only provide vast disappointment for >> > yourself and your pal, >> > and will probably also get you puked upon. >> > >> > Anyway: I don't do E. I had my day/week/month/years >> > with acid way back >> > when. THC has an LSD affect on me these days. My >> > doors of perception are >> > plenty wide open. >> > >> > SO - I am usually very clearheaded when I go out. >> > Perhaps I am wide awake, >> > even. This makes me more critical of some events - >> > say alot of F8 or TnJF >> > massives - and probably more appreciative of others. >> > >> > When I make friends, I make them for real, not just >> > for a night or a >> > backrub. When I hear and feel and see the music, >> > it's because the person >> > on the decks is a deity (Jeno! Sage! Christopher >> > Lawrence! Noel! Ethan! >> > etcetcetc!) and not because I have an e-crush on >> > them (M&M!). When I >> > shake my booty it's with clearminded passion, not >> > synthetic delerium. >> > >> > This isn't to detract from synthetic delerium, mind >> > you. >> > >> > Just know that, if you see me dancing when you're >> > performing, I'm tripping >> > on *you*, and that you are what I came to the party >> > for, vs. just using it >> > as a venue for doing my drugs or picking up on >> > folks. >> > >> > Urgh I wanna go play in the sun, >> > >> > Jessica >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 16:09:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28446 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 16:09:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 28437 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 16:09:38 -0000 Received: from web216.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.116) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 16:09:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415160636.8759.rocketmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.100.191.172] by web216.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:06:36 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:06:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions To: dj boywonder Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk He might also want to take a break from E for a while. Tolerance is a bitch, and you dont really want to be taking more drugs for drugs, your body is a fragile thing. Steve =) --- dj boywonder wrote: > hey... > > learn to use a search engine...and try eating it > after...it helps > restore your seratonin levels back to normal...thats > why you would > take it.. > > http://herbshop.com/5htpfact.htm > http://www.medquestpharmacy.com/5-htp.htm > http://www.pharmwest.com/5-hydroxy.html > > got it from www.yahoo.com > > you also may want to look into the hyperreal drug > archives...or maybe > search through a few others...and learn about what > your taking and how > works... > > knowledge is power...use the tools that are there > for you...you dont > have to remember it...but if you know how to find > it...its always > there for you... > > aaron > > > >From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com > >Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: 5-HTP Questions > >Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:19:03 EDT > > > >okay, so I know the hype about this has died down, > but, I'm tired of > my 20 > >hits of e not working anymore and am willing to try > almost anything > that may > >work, So I have a few q's for anyone that may know! > 1- Does it really > enhance > >E... 2- haow much to you take at a time... 3- how > long before > dropping e do > >you take it... 4- how safe is it 5- anything else > anyone may know.... > I need > >this info by Sat if possible... thanx in advance. - > Jenn > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 16:21:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3966 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 16:21:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 3947 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 16:21:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 16:21:19 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 320; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:18:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3716150F.40310754@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:34:24 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: etraver@ix.netcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (by the people) was [Fwd: Anyone know anyhting about Community?] References: <37159A2F.441D@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "By the people" is still around. They throw a friday night party at the Top, usually pretty cool, good line-ups, although usually a bit too crowded. As far as throwing raves, theyre kinda over it for now. john r Elizabeth Traver wrote: > Speaking of Community, ---What ever happened to 'By The People' > parties??? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 16:24:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6281 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 16:24:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 6019 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 16:24:32 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 16:24:32 -0000 Received: from FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vWQEa17884 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:22:34 -0400 (EDT) From: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:22:34 EDT Subject: oh yeah! epiphany!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk :) yay. the free party downtown! hey everyone who loves springtime as much as me, there's a free party downtown in sf from 12 to 7! i'm gonna be serving food with Food Not Bombs (on and off, so i can dance of course!), so look for me there! yay! i don't know where the park is, but someone posted the info line on here a coupla days ago, i remember. so call it, find out, go!! (oh yeah, the movie *go* was funny..) ~catrina~ p.s. for those of you who don't know, Food Not Bombs is an anarchist group who serves free (vegetarian/vegan) food to the homeless...and to the not-so-homeless. ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 16:29:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9082 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 16:29:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 9044 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 16:29:46 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 16:29:46 -0000 Message-id: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:27:43 -0700 Subject: Monterey Jungle? To: talk@warmth.org Cc: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I can get the Black Box Cabaret (where cloud factory's spin cycle goes off on tuesdays) on Wednesdays for a Jungle/D&B night. Would anybody check it out? Would anybody like to spin? It is a free thing so nobody would be getting paid but it could be fun. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 16:34:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12895 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 16:34:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12880 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 16:34:09 -0000 Received: from smtp.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 16:34:09 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <26LGL8T4>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:27:13 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24CC@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: "'FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: oh yeah! epiphany!! Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:27:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE875C.D12A560A" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE875C.D12A560A Content-Type: text/plain Hey you guys! this is Andy (raveclub@aol.com) Put me on your buddylist or AIM. Anyway. one of my best friends is a really groovy house and break beat DJ in Dallas. He hasn't had a chance to spin in the West Coast yet..but he has in the midwest, south and east coast. He is Kid Icarus. How can I go about hooking him up with a party or club here to spin???Anyone have any suggestions. thanks, andy > -----Original Message----- > From: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com [SMTP:FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:23 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: oh yeah! epiphany!! > > :) yay. the free party downtown! hey everyone who loves springtime as > much > as me, there's a free party downtown in sf from 12 to 7! i'm gonna be > serving food with Food Not Bombs (on and off, so i can dance of course!), > so > look for me there! yay! i don't know where the park is, but someone > posted > the info line on here a coupla days ago, i remember. so call it, find > out, > go!! (oh yeah, the movie *go* was funny..) > > ~catrina~ > > p.s. for those of you who don't know, Food Not Bombs is an anarchist group > > who serves free (vegetarian/vegan) food to the homeless...and to the > not-so-homeless. ;) ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE875C.D12A560A Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: oh yeah! epiphany!!

Hey you guys! this = is Andy (raveclub@aol.com) Put me on your buddylist or AIM.  = Anyway. one of my best friends is a really groovy house and break beat = DJ in Dallas.  He hasn't had a chance to spin in the West Coast = yet..but he has in the midwest, south and east coast.  He is Kid = Icarus.  How can I go about hooking him up with a party or club = here to spin???Anyone have any suggestions.

thanks,

andy

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com = [SMTP:FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com]
    Sent:   Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:23 AM
    To:     sfraves@hyperreal.org
    Subject:       = oh yeah!  epiphany!!

    :)  yay.  the free party = downtown!  hey everyone who loves springtime as much
    as me, there's a free party downtown = in sf from 12 to 7!  i'm gonna be
    serving food with Food Not Bombs (on = and off, so i can dance of course!), so
    look for me there!  yay!  i = don't know where the park is, but someone posted
    the info line on here a coupla days = ago, i remember.  so call it, find out,
    go!!  (oh yeah, the movie *go* = was funny..)

    ~catrina~

    p.s. for those of you who don't know, = Food Not Bombs is an anarchist group
    who serves free (vegetarian/vegan) = food to the homeless...and to the
    not-so-homeless.  ;)  =

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE875C.D12A560A-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 16:50:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19653 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 16:50:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 19639 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 16:50:22 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?vCjiOIeGoxgDyCG6UlyqW8gMmFcOv+AI?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 16:50:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id JAA29550 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:50:14 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:50:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: nrr: star wars joke Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yoyoyoyo gramma whass kickin ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:59:16 -0400 (EDT) From: jordan hare To: for-the-cause@ffwd.com Subject: [ftc] joke << >>For those eagerly awaiting the new Star Wars movie (and have seen >>Trainspotting), this was funny. >> >> >>Ewan MacGregor's opening speech in the new 'Star Wars' : >> >>"Choose the force. Choose a side, Choose a jedi knight, Choose a >>teacher, choose a big fucking death star, choose star destroyers, >>blasters, tie-fighters and a light sabre. Choose a black suit, black >>helmet and boots. >> >>Choose a loan from Jabba the Hut. Choose a philosophy. Choose an >>Emperor. Choose a planet with matching moon. Choose a three planet >>system in the Dromoda system and fucking enslave them. Choose the >>Rebels and wondering who the fuck you are kneeling by the Emperor on >>a Sunday morning. Choose sitting next to that Emperor watching whole >>planets being enslaved in mind-controlling, force-crushing battles, >>stuffing fucking replacement parts into your body. Choose rotting away >>at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable death star, >>nothing >>more than a dictator to the selfish, evil fucked up brats who fight for >>you. >> >>Choose a future. Choose the Force. I chose not to choose the Force. I >>chose something else. I chose the Dark Side." > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:00:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27627 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:00:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 27617 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:00:48 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:00:48 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-10.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.10]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17784 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990415153337.006d9aa0@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:33:37 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: SRR Who's up on Eckletic tonite! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank in advance :) Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:13:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5053 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:13:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 5039 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:13:32 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?T5lCjnGx3KSQ5qzbCuQytcCfCNJivYtp?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:13:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id KAA04399; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:13:26 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:13:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Nuku cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SRR Who's up on Eckletic tonite! In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990415153337.006d9aa0@apollo.sfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HI EDDO PLEASE COME TONIGHT I MISS YOU tonight eklektic presents: E-Sassin (Phunckateck, Sound Sphere Recordings, LA) Siren (Bassment, XLR8R, SF) Sage (Phunckateck, Ardoyne All-Stars, SF) urban visions, photography and art by dmarie and UFO! and downstairs: hip-hop breaks with: J-Boogie and Rasta Q-Tip So come through! the sun's been coming out during the day, we would love to see all you beautiful easy stars tonight. 10-4, duh, max On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Nuku wrote: > Thank in advance :) > > Nuku > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:25:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13860 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:25:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13844 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:25:36 -0000 Received: from web116.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.89) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:25:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415172731.12795.rocketmail@web116.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web116.yahoomail.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:27:31 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:27:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: david blaine magicman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That was pretty tight. All the people freaking out had me rolling. Also, did anyone notice the guy in Haiti that did want to be on TV, but still wanted to watch. He was holding his hat over his face and then tried to move out of the camera shot, but the camera moved with him. Then they switch cameras and I lost him. I thought it was a bit odd. *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:28:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15674 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:27:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 15271 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:27:45 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:27:45 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-89.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.89]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA08428 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00d301be876e$08d12870$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: References: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24CC@smtp.northpointcom.com> Subject: DJ Funk ? Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:30:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk RE: oh yeah! epiphany!!Was reading posts from another list (Fluke), and noticed that people were talking about DJ Funk (Chicago based Dj), creator of the "Mr Big Dick" alblum. According to them, he was shot and killed recently. If this is true, some of you might know more about this, then my heart goes out to those closest to him. Even if you aren't familiar with him or his work, this should strike a chord with all of us. Death happens constantly but when it happens to someone a bit closer... it shows that no matter what status you have, what you have accomplished in life or who you know... mortality hits us all. Thank whatever deity you believe in, that we have our music to bring us together like this... Love & Music, Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:29:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17024 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:29:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 17016 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:29:06 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:29:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415173330.6343.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.192.159] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:33:30 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:33:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: SRR Who's up on Eckletic tonite! To: Max McCauley , Nuku Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im there!! my brain needs jungle thats all i can say also, hip hop breaks downstairs, cool I cant wait...C-ya there --- Max McCauley wrote: > > HI EDDO PLEASE COME TONIGHT I MISS YOU > > > tonight eklektic presents: > > E-Sassin (Phunckateck, Sound Sphere Recordings, LA) > > Siren (Bassment, XLR8R, SF) > > Sage (Phunckateck, Ardoyne All-Stars, SF) > > urban visions, photography and art by dmarie and > UFO! > > and downstairs: > > hip-hop breaks with: > J-Boogie and Rasta Q-Tip > > > So come through! the sun's been coming out during > the day, we would love > to see all you beautiful easy stars tonight. > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > > > On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Nuku wrote: > > > Thank in advance :) > > > > Nuku > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:38:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21294 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:38:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 20992 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:38:48 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:38:48 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vTUHa05707 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:37:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <8f2d179c.24477d70@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:35:44 EDT Subject: Re: Looking for some Artist To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Sfravers, I was wondering if any of you or if you knew of anyone that can draw and paint good. IM also looking for someone who can paint good Chinese letters. If so please contact me. Thanks! =) Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:39:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22049 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:39:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 21747 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:39:13 -0000 Received: from charity.harvard.net (206.137.222.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:39:13 -0000 Received: from [207.180.76.16] (gw.crai.com [207.180.76.16]) by charity.harvard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA27677 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PA_EX by [207.180.76.16] via smtpd (for cache01.ns.harvard.net [206.137.222.16]) with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:46:15 UT Received: by pa_ex with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:38:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Comolli, Loic" To: "'sfraves'" Subject: FW: How to impress Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:38:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BE8766.D4F90F7E" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BE8766.D4F90F7E Content-Type: text/plain > -----Original Message----- > From: DULONG j. [SMTP:dj517610@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 10:35 AM > To: LXC@crai.com > Subject: How to impress > > > > --------------------------------------- > DULONG j. > dj517610@stmail.staffs.ac.uk <> ------_=_NextPart_000_01BE8766.D4F90F7E Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: How to impress Message-ID: <19990414091504.59554.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Henrik Steenberg To: AneSte@um.dk, brems@hotmail.com, c_adamsen@hotmail.com, flodager@hotmail.com, anders_hebsgaard@hotmail.com, dj517610@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk, larschris69@hotmail.com, mni1974@hotmail.com, steenberg@mailcity.com, Marcella.merafina@mailcity.com, bam81777@port.ac.uk, lager@a-tex.dk, thomaslee1@hotmail.com Subject: How to impress Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 02:15:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain MAKING AN IMPRESSION HOW TO IMPRESS A WOMAN: 1. Compliment her, 2. Cuddle her, 3. Kiss her, 4. Caress her, 5. Love her, 6. Stroke her, 7. Tease her, 8. Comfort her, 9. Protect her, 10. Hug her, 11. Hold her, 12. Spend money on her, 13. Wine & dine her, 14. Buy things for her, 15. Listen to her, 16. Care for her, 17. Stand by her, 18. Support her, 19. Go to the ends of the earth for her.... HOW TO IMPRESS A MAN: 1. Show up naked. 2. Bring beer. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BE8766.D4F90F7E-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:41:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25064 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:41:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 24741 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:41:04 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:41:04 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vPOIa15519 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:38:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:38:55 EDT Subject: Concsious Session? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is there an age limit for Concsious Session? -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:42:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26833 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:42:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 26576 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:42:15 -0000 Received: from hissy-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO hissy.excite.com) (198.3.99.229) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:42:15 -0000 Received: from doby.excite.com ([199.172.152.182]) by hissy.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990415174129.ZDXG29310.hissy@doby.excite.com> for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:41:29 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: 5HTP & 'e-balls" Message-Id: <924198090.17185.921@excite.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:41:30 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Once again, I am AMAZED at the people who post about personal illegal activities to this list.... please get a clue... posting about your use of substances doesn't make you brave or cool, it makes you extremely vulnerable, and dare we say, perhaps stupid. (and word to the poster who warned about using corporate accounts... i have had my email use monitored by an employer in the past... that's the reason i use a web-based email for all personal stuff) now... as an answer to the "what can someone take to make their e work more effectively after building a tolerance" .... i'd like to suggest that sometimes our bodies are telling us things... when you develop a tolerance for something, you can either increase your dosage or take another substance to try and counter the negative effects of the first (ever hear of the valley of the dolls -- about people who come to rely on uppers in the morning, downers to sleep, an endless and ever-building cycle) ... or you can listen to your body.... cuz it may be telling you that this particular thing doesn't work for you any more. it is my experience that many people hit that moment where they have reached a "saturation" point, a time where they say "hey this isn't as fun as it once was" ... and i suggest that's your wonderful opportunity to say "thank you" to the substance that gave you such enjoyable and life-changing experiences (hopefully) ... and move on. just think, you can save all that money, be kind to your body, feel great on monday AND tuesday.... it seems a little sad, but some experiences are only meant to last a short time in our lives... you can't recreate them, you can't hold on to them... i describe certain substance experiences as "walking through a door" .... they show you, like Alice in Wonderland, a door that you never knew was there.... and you go through it and are amazed and changed because you can see the world in a whole new way... but there's no going back... you've gone through the door, you've had the experience, and you can never go through it again. you can certainly enjoy being in that new place but sooner or later you move on from that too.... so, when it stops being fun, or stops working.... whatever it is in your life (relationships, jobs, hobbies, whatever) .. you can always... stop... and start looking for the next "door" in your life. maybe that's the key to some of the sober vs. non-sober discussions here... some people are just experience the excitement of finding a "door" and some people have moved on through another portal... all in a life's journey. see you all saturday at harmony! for those who haven't met me, please come introduce yourself! i'm easy to spot, cuz i'm really really old ;^) ... chubby, curly high pigtails, and i'll be wearing a big flower crown... tattoos on shoulders, lots of silver bracelets.... maybe i'll be working the line outside ... it's gonna be fun! love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:44:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1470 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:44:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1330 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:44:49 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:44:49 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-10.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.10]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA22014 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990415161737.006d5424@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:17:37 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re:[NRR] david blaine magicman Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yea but some of those ppl were genuinely scared (the hatians and tribal ppl) because they still do believe in the true art of magik and could not tell the difference between the magic that David was representing...and the one that is constanly being practiced on their land. The guy wit the red hat was said "you can read my mind," was prolly scared as shiate. Funny how he (david) was doing magic but he was also opening up the door for the true arts.. or sumtin like dat. "Science is the Western Myth of the World" Nuku At 10:27 AM 4/15/99 -0700, you wrote: >That was pretty tight. All the people freaking out had me rolling. > >Also, did anyone notice the guy in Haiti that did want to be on TV, but >still wanted to watch. He was holding his hat over his face and then >tried to move out of the camera shot, but the camera moved with him. >Then they switch cameras and I lost him. I thought it was a bit odd. > >*HUGZ* > pat > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:48:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4195 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:47:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 4109 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:47:53 -0000 Received: from smtp.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:47:53 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <26LGL93M>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:40:56 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24CF@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: "'leslie.ayres@excite.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: 5HTP & 'e-balls" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:40:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE8767.1D0F49B8" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8767.1D0F49B8 Content-Type: text/plain i totall agree. Especially if you are at work. If you have real player. Look for the c/net. There's a new report about employers snooping on e-mails that employees are sending and receiving at work. Get a clue people.. andy > -----Original Message----- > From: leslie.ayres@excite.com [SMTP:leslie.ayres@excite.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 10:42 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: re: 5HTP & 'e-balls" > > Once again, I am AMAZED at the people who post about personal illegal > activities to this list.... please get a clue... posting about your use of > substances doesn't make you brave or cool, it makes you extremely > vulnerable, and dare we say, perhaps stupid. > > (and word to the poster who warned about using corporate accounts... i > have > had my email use monitored by an employer in the past... that's the reason > i > use a web-based email for all personal stuff) > > now... as an answer to the "what can someone take to make their e work > more > effectively after building a tolerance" .... i'd like to suggest that > sometimes our bodies are telling us things... > > when you develop a tolerance for something, you can either increase your > dosage or take another substance to try and counter the negative effects > of > the first (ever hear of the valley of the dolls -- about people who come > to > rely on uppers in the morning, downers to sleep, an endless and > ever-building cycle) ... or you can listen to your body.... cuz it may be > telling you that this particular thing doesn't work for you any more. > > it is my experience that many people hit that moment where they have > reached > a "saturation" point, a time where they say "hey this isn't as fun as it > once was" ... and i suggest that's your wonderful opportunity to say > "thank > you" to the substance that gave you such enjoyable and life-changing > experiences (hopefully) ... and move on. > > just think, you can save all that money, be kind to your body, feel great > on > monday AND tuesday.... > > it seems a little sad, but some experiences are only meant to last a short > time in our lives... you can't recreate them, you can't hold on to them... > > i describe certain substance experiences as "walking through a door" .... > they show you, like Alice in Wonderland, a door that you never knew was > there.... and you go through it and are amazed and changed because you can > see the world in a whole new way... > > but there's no going back... you've gone through the door, you've had the > experience, and you can never go through it again. you can certainly > enjoy > being in that new place but sooner or later you move on from that too.... > > so, when it stops being fun, or stops working.... whatever it is in your > life (relationships, jobs, hobbies, whatever) .. you can always... stop... > and start looking for the next "door" in your life. > > maybe that's the key to some of the sober vs. non-sober discussions > here... > some people are just experience the excitement of finding a "door" and > some > people have moved on through another portal... > > all in a life's journey. > > see you all saturday at harmony! for those who haven't met me, please > come > introduce yourself! i'm easy to spot, cuz i'm really really old ;^) ... > chubby, curly high pigtails, and i'll be wearing a big flower crown... > tattoos on shoulders, lots of silver bracelets.... maybe i'll be working > the > line outside ... it's gonna be fun! > > love, leslie > > > > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8767.1D0F49B8 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: 5HTP & 'e-balls"

i totall = agree.  Especially if you are at work. If you have real = player.  Look for the c/net.  There's a new report about = employers snooping on e-mails that employees are sending and receiving = at work.  Get a clue people..

andy

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   leslie.ayres@excite.com = [SMTP:leslie.ayres@excite.com]
    Sent:   Thursday, April 15, 1999 10:42 AM
    To:     sfraves@hyperreal.org
    Subject:       = re: 5HTP & 'e-balls"

    Once again, I am AMAZED at the people = who post about personal illegal
    activities to this list.... please = get a clue... posting about your use of
    substances doesn't make you brave or = cool, it makes you extremely
    vulnerable, and dare we say, perhaps = stupid. 

    (and word to the poster who warned = about using corporate accounts... i have
    had my email use monitored by an = employer in the past... that's the reason i
    use a web-based email for all = personal stuff)

    now... as an answer to the "what = can someone take to make their e work more
    effectively after building a = tolerance" .... i'd like to suggest that
    sometimes our bodies are telling us = things...

    when you develop a tolerance for = something, you can either increase your
    dosage or take another substance to = try and counter the negative effects of
    the first (ever hear of the valley of = the dolls -- about people who come to
    rely on uppers in the morning, = downers to sleep, an endless and
    ever-building cycle) ... or you can = listen to your body.... cuz it may be
    telling you that this particular = thing doesn't work for you any more.

    it is my experience that many people = hit that moment where they have reached
    a "saturation" point, a = time where they say "hey this isn't as fun as it
    once was" ... and i suggest = that's your wonderful opportunity to say "thank
    you" to the substance that gave = you such enjoyable and life-changing
    experiences (hopefully) ... and move = on. 

    just think, you can save all that = money, be kind to your body, feel great on
    monday AND tuesday....

    it seems a little sad, but some = experiences are only meant to last a short
    time in our lives... you can't = recreate them, you can't hold on to them...

    i describe certain substance = experiences as "walking through a door" ....
    they show you, like Alice in = Wonderland, a door that you never knew was
    there.... and you go through it and = are amazed and changed because you can
    see the world in a whole new = way...

    but there's no going back... you've = gone through the door, you've had the
    experience, and you can never go = through it again.  you can certainly enjoy
    being in that new place but sooner or = later you move on from that too....

    so, when it stops being fun, or stops = working.... whatever it is in your
    life (relationships, jobs, hobbies, = whatever) .. you can always... stop...
    and start looking for the next = "door" in your life.

    maybe that's the key to some of the = sober vs. non-sober discussions here...
    some people are just experience the = excitement of finding a "door" and some
    people have moved on through another = portal...

    all in a life's journey.

    see you all saturday at harmony!  = for those who haven't met me, please come
    introduce yourself! i'm easy to spot, = cuz i'm really really old ;^) ...
    chubby, curly high pigtails, and i'll = be wearing a big flower crown...
    tattoos on shoulders, lots of silver = bracelets.... maybe i'll be working the
    line outside ... it's gonna be = fun!

    love, leslie




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------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8767.1D0F49B8-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 17:48:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4957 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 17:48:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 4944 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 17:48:20 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:48:20 -0000 Received: from UDuNoMeeee@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rAQQa12389; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:38:40 -0400 (EDT) From: UDuNoMeeee@aol.com Message-ID: <121c9f11.24477e20@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:38:40 EDT Subject: Re: david blaine magicman To: montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Reply-To: UDuNoMeeee@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think the man is incredible.. much much more than a " magician." he has a gift. i wouldnt be too surprised if he was an angel. what a wonderfully intreguing man. i will meet him one day... bet* Love and Devine light eSsss From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:02:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18034 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:02:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 17984 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:02:48 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd124.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:02:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 93120 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 18:02:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415180221.93119.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.19.207.3 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:02:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.19.207.3] From: "Matthew Cohen" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (NRR) DAT Needed for rent Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:02:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If anyone has a DAT player that they wish to rent, please email me back. I need to dump some DATs to cassette. Thanks Matt Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:07:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20720 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:07:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 20704 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:07:01 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:07:01 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA26486 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA29060; Thu, 15 Apr 99 11:06:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:06:51 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: artists? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi you guys...i am just looking for any artists within our scene or anyone you know who would like to put there artwork up in a cafe in san rafael. Which is located in marin county. Usually the art is displayed for a month and we have a really good response. What is up right now is being sold loke hotcakes.I would love to see what people have and are interested in, so please contact me if you are interested. In order to cover the walls about 20 medium pieces or 10-12 large ones would be needed. :) thanks! shira aka aminita From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:19:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28101 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:19:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 28075 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:19:34 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:19:34 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-10.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.10]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA26219 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990415165222.006dd474@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:52:22 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: eklektic Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Welp since i was asked in such a nice way and by such a sweet n sexy and devishly handsome man --max :) Imma hit up eklectik tonite. And usually I like my anonymity but for tonite I'll drop it. The brown-colored grl with braids and a hawaiian shirt or maybe my blue fleece pullover. C-ya, OI OI OI OI OI OI OI OI OI OI !!!!BIg Up to the DnB Massive! Nuku At 02:01 PM 4/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >it seems that a lot of people from this list go to eklektic. i go there >almost every week, and i don't recall seeing any familiar faces - is it >because it's too dark in there? anyway, should we attempt to meet tomorrow >night? > >loic > >ps: for those of you who like minna st., go there sunday night. happy kid >ian & marty will be there. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:23:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 704 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:23:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 696 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:23:26 -0000 Received: from f166.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:23:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 48632 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 18:25:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415182509.48631.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.9.104 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:25:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.9.104] From: "Natasha 426" To: shnigglebob@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: METROPOLIS TIX & sfrecords Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:25:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've bought tix via sfrecords before...the most recent party was Rebirth (what a great party!!) and it was no problem whatsoever~ You enter a "password" online when you order your tickets and then either bring your license to the party to prove you're you ~OR~ tell them your secret password and your name will be checked off a list. It's like having a presale without the possibility of losing the damn thing (i have a wonderful knack for losing *everything* ;) hugs, natasha =) Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:23:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1034 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:23:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 978 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:23:33 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:23:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415182756.25651.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.16] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:27:56 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: you guys freadked me out To: lara zx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i can't believe i just did this. i'm a great believer, and i think my company is different than most others. yet, i have just gotten a... yahoo account. i know my company's cs dept doesn't monitor our web use or e-mail, but the fact that our e-mails are stored on our servers made me think twice. so there it is. i have a yahoo account. i feel so... not special anymore. loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:28:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3950 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:28:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 3942 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:28:52 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:28:52 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vEJCa20584 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:24:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:24:54 EDT Subject: the reg question on meeting To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok I know everyone always gets these so once again where are we going to=20 meet at SpringTime?=BF?=BF?=BF FOr some reason everyone says the water place who kn= ows=20 lets try some place different. Or the water place blah anyways let me know. See Ya There!!!! =3DP Much PLUR Kent PS: ?Chris tell me more one whos coming From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:29:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4630 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:29:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 4614 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:29:13 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?b7OlILF926fC3aA29WTUp8yS3yx9JMGe?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:29:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id LAA22845; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:28:59 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:28:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Nuku cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: eklektic In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990415165222.006dd474@apollo.sfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Nuku wrote: > Welp since i was asked in such a nice way and by such a sweet n sexy > and devishly handsome man --max :) Imma hit up eklectik tonite. And usually > I like my anonymity but for tonite I'll drop it. The brown-colored grl with > braids and a hawaiian shirt or maybe my blue fleece pullover. hey yo, nuku, bring your little sister by the name of chocolate thai! IRC NINJUH POSSE, THIRD DEGREE DONS ALL OF THEM! THE ART? BROCK-ITSU. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:30:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6259 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:30:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 6250 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:30:33 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?ZauXjwbOSEhAQ3cdK2FiZHVpAqF9KS5a?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:30:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id LAA23258; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:30:28 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:30:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: shout outs at Harmony this saturday Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I am MCing for Science and maybe others in the jungle area of this Saturday's guaranteed bomb Harmony rave. In fact, in theory the Science set is going to be recorded. And so, I am asking any of you who are going to be there in the jungle room and know someone with a birthday that they'll be celebrating Saturday or and other kind of shout out they want to get in to let me know in private by email. That way, I can say "nuf birthdays inside, going out to Buttsnella on your 14th" and shit like that and make it special for the people in question and make the tape (if there ends up being one) immortalize the people. Now, this is not to say that I am Chuy Gomez and that if you love Lety or Kevin that I am going to tell the world...but I will do my best, okay? Especially for birthdays. And maybe like first raves, seen. Let me know in private reply email. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:45:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17191 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:45:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 17164 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:44:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:44:59 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 70; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:42:37 -0700 Message-ID: <371636BD.624E98B5@hrg.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:58:06 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Concsious Session? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There is no age limit for concsious sessions. I highly recommend checking this party out. They do a damn good job of throwing a true slammin underground house party. Very minimal, slammin djs, great vibe. Tends to be an older crowd. Check it out. john r BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com wrote: > Is there an age limit for Concsious Session? > > -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:49:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21373 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:49:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 21365 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:49:27 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?NIvts/0f48XCokNbOognZ//aWZBkcWh+?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:49:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id LAA27464 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:49:25 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Concsious Session? THUMBS UP In-Reply-To: <371636BD.624E98B5@hrg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have still never made it, but let me tell you, I have heard SO many good reviews it's obscene. and also, a little story. I moved away from SF for a while, and recently I saw Fabulizz at Eklektic. Hadn't seen her in like two years. She used to just be Elizabeth, and she's learned how to mix and now she's Fabulizz! w000 hah! nuf respect to all the tall, elegant, blonde, supermodel house DJ's inside. 10-4, duh, max On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, John Rodriguez wrote: > There is no age limit for concsious sessions. I highly recommend > checking this party out. They do a damn good job of throwing a true > slammin underground house party. Very minimal, slammin djs, great > vibe. Tends to be an older crowd. Check it out. > > john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 18:50:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22790 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 18:50:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22642 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 18:50:26 -0000 Received: from war.ocf.berkeley.edu (root@128.32.191.89) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 18:50:26 -0000 Received: from [128.48.189.193] (kakoka.ucop.edu [128.48.189.193]) by war.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26155 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:50:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: gta@mail.ocf.berkeley.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990415061125.18082.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:49:45 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Gabriel Alvaro Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? need help? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think the question "what is a DJ" is a valid one. One I have pondered myself. I don't care if some bored bloke is out there trolling with an alter ego. I think a discussion of it might benefit younger peeps on this list who might like to know (and probably should know) a little bit about the nature and origins of techno/sample based and oriented music. I grew up with the term DJ meaning "Disc Jockey", a person who plays records (discs containing recorded music). Simple really. But what if you had an elaborate mixing of audio tapes, or reel to reel tapes, or CDs or Computer sound files like AIFFs or MP3s. What difference does it make what medium you use as long as the effect on the listener is the same? For that matter, what difference does it matter how long the bits of recorded music are? DJs, as they were known before the advent of electronic music, would play songs in succesion. probably averaging between 2 and 7 minutes for each song. Well, then electronic music comes along and the beats become more regular so that somebody like Afrika Bambaataa can go and mix Kraftwerk with 808 beats and come up with something entirely new. This comes about by playing snippets of recorded music in time to longer backgrounds of recorded music. A mixing DJ can then bring one sound into the foreground and take another to the background, vice versa, ad nauseaum, etc. etc. Then along comes the sampler. Think of how a DJ might view a sampler. A tool that allows him or her to play ever smaller snippets of recorded music in a sequence, in a loop, or in just one stab. The smaller those snippets get, the more fused the music begins to sound. It sounds crazy, but if I sample a .10 second of a techno track, I could loop it and you would think you were hearing some synth noise. The reality is that you would be hearing a recorded snippet of a song at a rate of 6000 times a minute. A good example of someone who makes entirely new music with recorded sounds, tracks and songs is DJ Shadow. His primary tool is the sampler, yet when you go hear to hear him, he obviously slows down the rate at which he physically manipulates recorded music because then his primary tool becomes the turntable, which it goes without saying that he handles very well. Does it make a difference to the LISTENER whether a DJ plays his or her recorded music bits from digital recordings in a sampler or analog records on a turntable? I would say not really. Though there is a difference in the creative process, the production side. The sampler is a much more deliberate tool where as turntables can be used to play, mix, and alter sounds on recorded discs in realtime and are more readily synched when a new sound is introduced into the mix. Well I've run out of steam on this one, but in the end I think it becomes impossible and pointless to try to distinguish between a DJ and a producer given the current use of samplers to make Electronic music. One might draw the line at assessing a given artists ability or proclivity to mix sounds in real time in front of an audience. Those who DO are DJs. Those who cannot or will not, could then be called producers. If I play a sequencer and a synth and drum machine in front of you, I'm not a DJ. But then I'm mixing sounds aren't I? Confusing. I think the term DJ is outmoded anyway. Any ideas for new terminology? Take a word for "a medium" and a word for the "mediator". Mix them and there you go! Disc Jockey Plate Cutter Track Trickster Groove Rider (hehe bigups!) Slot Jammer Cut Burner Table Twister Deck Blender Wax Mixer Vinyl Fuser (not fusion, ew!) Snip Player and on and on... hmmm, I like Table Twister, Does Qbert already use that? -Gabe At 11:11 PM -0700 4/14/99, trancebaby_ NBC wrote: > You want to know what a dj is??????? this is stupid, you don't >party you don't go to raves you just want to expose this scene. want >me to tell you where I get my E you dip??? I could give the #of the >biggest dealer in town. whatever. . . !!!!! > > In anycase I had to rant at this alter ego just 'cuz this >person is sitting and laughing at the rest of us who respond to >him/her. . . well, keep laughing cause the joke is definitely on us. >. . . !!!! however your humor needs upgrading and aimed at the >knowledgable group that composes this list. peace Raoul 'the >wiseman' From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 20:06:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13729 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 20:06:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 13707 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 20:06:31 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 20:06:31 -0000 Received: from emfpc-8c (emf-51.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.142]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA30086; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904152006.NAA30086@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: nico@entic.net From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Titanic song CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:07:57 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk But, in the time electronic music HAS had to evolve, it's gone out of control!! Disco led to Chicago house and garage in New York, and there are a gazillion subgenres in house. If we say the first "techno" was Kraftwerk, that inspired Detroit Techno, and that and Acid House got off the hook with those crazy British ravers and then there was trance and hard trance and anthemic trance and hip hop had lots of influence on like breakbeats and there's Drum&Bass and dark jungle and techstep and hardstep and whatnotstep and lets not forget Hardcore and Gabber and happycore and Happy Hardcore... and of course the hybrids like Dream house and Tech House and Speed Garage. AAAGHGHHGGGGGHGHHH!!!! Rafie On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:51:38 -0700 (PDT), nico@entic.net wrote... >I dunno, mon ami. There are songs out there have that endure. FSOL's >Papua New Guinea comes to mind, along with ... Mortal Kombat. Ok just >kidding. But you get the idea. One of my friends told me that there >really aren't "classics" out there that everyone knows and loves when you >compare this genre to say ... rock and roll. > >Techno has had way less time to evolve and plus it's not a very >accessible. I'm guessing that's why raver knowledge of music isn't as >high as a person would expect of a gathering of techno lovers. ; ) We >can't all be DJs. > >((( l0ve always ))) > >Nico > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 20:07:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15019 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 20:07:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 14835 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 20:07:34 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd125.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.189) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 20:07:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 26818 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 20:06:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415200659.26817.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.67.252 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:06:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.67.252] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: harmony spring flower festival Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:06:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wheres this gonna be held at?.. damn.. can't wait to see angel alanis.. 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Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 20:32:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29627 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 20:31:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 29586 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 20:31:57 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 20:31:57 -0000 Received: from emfpc-8c (emf-51.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.142]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05779; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904152031.NAA05779@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: 5-HTP Questions CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:33:26 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! *breath* AGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Okay, let's review: a) don't ever take anywhere near 20 hits of ecstacy EVER b) since apparently you already did, you don't feel it anymore because when you ABUSE ecstacy you don't feel the warm lovey effects, just the amphetamine ones c) if you want to feel ecstacy again, there's a chance you might be able to if you don't do it for say a YEAR and then try one hit of pure MDMA, but you're probably so physically and psychologically used to it that it will never be the same again d) 5-HTP helps build or replenish seretonin. So a raver could use it after doing something stressful on the body at an all nite techno rave party. Its natural, its a step in the formation of seretonin. Ask someone at a vitamin/health store about dosages, but you could try 200 mg in the morning after a party, then get plenty of rest Please be responsible. Rafie PS- Next time you get that fucked up please don't wear candy, or bright colors, and stay in a dark corner, because it exacerbates the bad image that candy kids and ravers in general have already On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:19:03 EDT, KaNdeEKlD@aol.com wrote... >okay, so I know the hype about this has died down, but, I'm tired of my 20 >hits of e not working anymore and am willing to try almost anything that >may >work, So I have a few q's for anyone that may know! 1- Does it really >enhance >E... 2- haow much to you take at a time... 3- how long before dropping e do >you take it... 4- how safe is it 5- anything else anyone may know.... I >need >this info by Sat if possible... thanx in advance. - Jenn > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 20:38:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4389 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 20:38:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 4374 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 20:38:38 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 20:38:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28142 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:38:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 2 questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have two questions.. 1. My headphones. I have a set of AKG 240DF and I love them to no end except for one problem... they have pretty low sensitivity.. I know devices exist to amplify headphones.. I dont need a box that amplifies like 4 pairs like they have in most studios and such.. I have seen one that amplifies just one pair and is battery powered (plus!) but they charge like 160 bucks for it because they went and built a BPM counter into it too.. That is more than my headphones cost to begin with, so there is no way i am gonna spring for it, especially since i wouldnt know what to do with a BPM counter.... so.. Does anybody know where i can get a headphone amplifier relatively cheap, new or used... 2. What happened to gabber???? i say BRING BACK THE GABBER... sure it is cheesy , but it is FUN! Gregery From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 20:42:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6595 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 20:42:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 6578 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 20:42:18 -0000 Received: from fillmore.paix.cp.net (HELO fillmore.criticalpath.net) (209.228.15.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 20:42:18 -0000 Received: (cpmta 1094 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 13:42:17 -0700 Date: 15 Apr 1999 13:42:16 -0700 Message-ID: <19990415204216.1093.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> X-Sent: 15 Apr 1999 20:42:16 GMT Received: from [207.251.8.217] by mail.club.net with HTTP; 15 Apr 1999 13:42:16 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Tabitha Hanrion X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: BSP-Epiphany*DAYbreaks*SaturDAY Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>>>>>> THIS SATURDAY, April 17th! >>>>>>> Epiphany presents DayBreaks! >>>>>>> ALL DAY -- ALL BREAKS!!! Beats begin at -> NOON SHARP <- Prime, outdoor, virgin, beautiful, permitted location in San Francisco! This is a donation-based *DAYTIME* event to benefit the Red Cross. DayBreaks is sponsored by KZSU radio. The PHATTEST lineup: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jason (Epiphany) [jungle)] ReAch (Static/A*R*M) [hip hop] Siphon & Hak (Urban Assault) [jungle] Science & AndyW (Viberation/Harmony) [electrodowntempo] Jungle Life Crew (SF) [jungle scratch-a-thon] Uncle Noah (Abduction Productions/LA) [breakbeat] Jahsh (Harmony) [downtempo] With your mackadacious host, MC Duh! Call the voicemail starting on FRIDAY night for exact location & info: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415/289-2100 ext.118 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Come party with us before the Harmony springtime! * Please, absolutely no alcohol! * Barefoot dancing, too -- the ground will be nice and dry! * Please bring something to share on our Solar Altar. Sunshine, Epiphany From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 20:47:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12703 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 20:47:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 12692 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 20:47:55 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 20:47:55 -0000 Received: from emfpc-8c (emf-51.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.142]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20329; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904152047.NAA20329@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: nico@entic.net From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Titanic song CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:49:24 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hell yeah! uh.."Music Sounds Better" and "1998"!!! Rafie PS And the Titanic song On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:17:13 -0700 (PDT), nico@entic.net wrote... > >Sure you can remember genres. They all have a certain feel. But has >there been a song from each of those subgenres that you never forget and >that you'll always treasure? > >((( l0ve always ))) > >Nico > >> But, in the time electronic music HAS had to evolve, it's gone out of >> control!! Disco led to Chicago house and garage in New York, and there >are >> a gazillion subgenres in house. If we say the first "techno" was >Kraftwerk, >> that inspired Detroit Techno, and that and Acid House got off the hook >with >> those crazy British ravers and then there was trance and hard trance and >> anthemic trance and hip hop had lots of influence on like breakbeats and >> there's Drum&Bass and dark jungle and techstep and hardstep and >whatnotstep >> and lets not forget Hardcore and Gabber and happycore and Happy >Hardcore... >> and of course the hybrids like Dream house and Tech House and Speed >> Garage. AAAGHGHHGGGGGHGHHH!!!! >> >> Rafie >> >> >> On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:51:38 -0700 (PDT), >> nico@entic.net wrote... >> >I dunno, mon ami. There are songs out there have that endure. FSOL's >> >Papua New Guinea comes to mind, along with ... Mortal Kombat. Ok just >> >kidding. But you get the idea. One of my friends told me that there >> >really aren't "classics" out there that everyone knows and loves when >you >> >compare this genre to say ... rock and roll. >> > >> >Techno has had way less time to evolve and plus it's not a very >> >accessible. I'm guessing that's why raver knowledge of music isn't as >> >high as a person would expect of a gathering of techno lovers. ; ) We >> >can't all be DJs. >> > >> >((( l0ve always ))) >> > >> >Nico >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 21:11:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25287 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 21:11:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 25274 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 21:11:18 -0000 Received: from vm4-ext.prodigy.net (HELO vm4-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 21:11:18 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-17.splitrock.net [209.156.149.132]) by vm4-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA159914; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:11:09 -0400 Message-ID: <37165567.45984EE4@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:08:55 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Adair CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 2 questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Off hand, the problem with headphone amps are they're not made very portable. They have to be plugged in and such. So to take the headphone amp with you out when you play is almost a no win sitiuation. Thats why the one company made that portable one with the beat counter and battery powered, specifically for DJs. Most headphones amps are for studio use and such, thats why they usually come with sets of 4 or more headphones outputs. And most are very expensive. The one you speak of is actually cheap. here is a couple links for some headphone amp examples with single inputs http://208.168.127.236/RootNavigation/home.asp http://headroom.headphone.com/systems/starter.htm http://www.jdsound.com/ozaudio.html I suggest before you buy a headphone amp look into just buying new headphones with a higher sensitivity rating. hope this helps - peace - Joe Lanzon Greg Adair wrote: > I have two questions.. > > 1. My headphones. I have a set of AKG 240DF and I love them to no end > except for one problem... they have pretty low sensitivity.. I know > devices exist to amplify headphones.. I dont need a box that amplifies > like 4 pairs like they have in most studios and such.. I have seen one > that amplifies just one pair and is battery powered (plus!) but they > charge like 160 bucks for it because they went and built a BPM counter > into it too.. That is more than my headphones cost to begin with, so there > is no way i am gonna spring for it, especially since i wouldnt know > what to do with a BPM counter.... so.. Does anybody know where i can > get a headphone amplifier relatively cheap, new or used... > > 2. What happened to gabber???? i say BRING BACK THE GABBER... sure it is > cheesy , but it is FUN! > > Gregery From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 21:12:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27747 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 21:12:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 27737 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 21:12:52 -0000 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 21:12:52 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id OAA29657; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:12:50 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: BSP-Epiphany*DAYbreaks*SaturDAY To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <19990415204216.1093.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >>>>>>> THIS SATURDAY, April 17th! > >>>>>>> Epiphany presents DayBreaks! > >>>>>>> ALL DAY -- ALL BREAKS!!! > Beats begin at -> NOON SHARP <- > > Jason (Epiphany) [jungle)] > ReAch (Static/A*R*M) [hip hop] > Siphon & Hak (Urban Assault) [jungle] > Science & AndyW (Viberation/Harmony) [electrodowntempo] > Jungle Life Crew (SF) [jungle scratch-a-thon] -----> Uncle Noah (Abduction Productions/LA) [breakbeat] HEY! That's me! :D > Jahsh (Harmony) [downtempo] > > With your mackadacious host, MC Duh! > > > > Call the voicemail starting on FRIDAY night for exact location & info: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415/289-2100 ext.118 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I really look forward to seeing you all there! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- GTA - "The Parti EP" Orbit Trnsmission 007 available now at your local record shop. info: Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 21:31:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13742 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 21:31:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 13433 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 21:30:52 -0000 Received: from web131.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.174) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 21:30:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415213202.19215.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web131.yahoomail.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:32:02 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:32:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk TWENTY HITS!!!!! Pending how close you are to getting good deals and all. I'd say that's about 2-4 hundred smack-a-roos. Well thats ...er... I read somewhere For that much, I'd keep you jumpin all night. I'd even go hind and jump out at you screaming, "BOOOOOO!" just so you could get a lil paranoid kick in there too. ;) Moral of this babble, there are better ways to spend $400 in a night. Try this, seeings how E-balling is just the bodies reactions to a chemical and the body is controlled by the mind. Control your mind so that your bodies feels good without the need of the chemical. A little trick one of my friends learned in rehab. ;) *HUGZ* pat PS: BOOOOO! <= A freebie =Þ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 21:31:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14024 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 21:31:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 13594 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 21:31:00 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 21:31:00 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA22433; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990415141835.0475f6c0@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:30:19 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, frequency-8@squinky.org From: binary fineboy Subject: tracer@FAITH tonite Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk everyone should go to club faith tonite (3rd and harrison) in SF. its 18+, and I think its free before 10:30 and like 7 bucks after (I THINK!) Resident DJ blackstone (who is on the SF Raves list) will be spinnin and then Tracer hits the decks from 2-3. its a gay club but of course everyone is welcome and everyone will have a kick ass time cuz the space is really cool and the music is pretty damn good for a thursday night (and blackstone promised me ... no CHER!!! ... or maybe that was just wishful thinking) ok so I didnt put BSP in front of this because the "s" is for self and this is just all my opinion ... I dont work there or nuthin, I just thought Id give y'all an idea of whats goin on tonite. ryan ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 21:31:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14233 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 21:31:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 13837 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 21:31:10 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 21:31:10 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-248.dsp.com [204.118.76.248]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA23116; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:31:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199904152131.OAA23116@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:27:21 -0700 To: Tabitha Hanrion , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: BSP-Epiphany*DAYbreaks*SaturDAY In-Reply-To: <19990415204216.1093.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Woo Hoo! Joy Unrestraint! I look forward to meeting y'all (below, and all y'all else, as well) Jessica At 01:42 PM 4/15/99 -0700, Tabitha Hanrion wrote: >>>>>>>> THIS SATURDAY, April 17th! >>>>>>>> Epiphany presents DayBreaks! >>>>>>>> ALL DAY -- ALL BREAKS!!! >Beats begin at -> NOON SHARP <- > >Prime, outdoor, virgin, beautiful, permitted location in San >Francisco! This is a donation-based *DAYTIME* event to benefit >the Red Cross. DayBreaks is sponsored by KZSU radio. > >The PHATTEST lineup: >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Jason (Epiphany) [jungle)] >ReAch (Static/A*R*M) [hip hop] >Siphon & Hak (Urban Assault) [jungle] >Science & AndyW (Viberation/Harmony) [electrodowntempo] >Jungle Life Crew (SF) [jungle scratch-a-thon] >Uncle Noah (Abduction Productions/LA) [breakbeat] >Jahsh (Harmony) [downtempo] > >With your mackadacious host, MC Duh! > > > >Call the voicemail starting on FRIDAY night for exact location & info: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415/289-2100 ext.118 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > >Come party with us before the Harmony springtime! > >* Please, absolutely no alcohol! >* Barefoot dancing, too -- the ground will be nice and dry! >* Please bring something to share on our Solar Altar. > > > >Sunshine, >Epiphany > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 21:35:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18539 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 21:35:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 18187 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 21:35:30 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 21:35:30 -0000 Received: from lal-99-98.reshall.berkeley.edu (1Cust21.tnt1.sfo1.da.uu.net [208.250.183.21]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA16142; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990415143710.00780d44@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: swat37@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:37:10 -0700 To: "Jay" , From: swati shah Subject: Re: DJ Funk ? In-Reply-To: <00d301be876e$08d12870$77019665@cuhelp.com> References: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24CC@smtp.northpointcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If this is true, we should all be greatly saddened. DJ Funk was the creator of some of the most entertaining musicc i had ever heard, and I had been hoping to see him in Chicago this summer. Love, Swati From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 21:36:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19164 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 21:36:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 18934 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 21:36:07 -0000 Received: from table.jps.net (madhav@206.170.168.217) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 21:36:07 -0000 Received: (from madhav@localhost) by table.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA05853; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:35:50 -0700 (PDT) From: madhav@table.jps.net Message-Id: <199904152135.OAA05853@table.jps.net> Subject: Re: New 2 SF scene-- lookin 4 parties To: thatpisces@yahoo.com (Jess ica) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: madhav@table.jps.net (), sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990414202915.27255.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> from "Jess ica" at Apr 14, 99 01:29:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for all the info! I'll try and come to the Saturday day-time event-- I checked the info line, sounds cool... I'll be the short Indian dude with the "George Clooney" haircut... and silver bead necklace... hope 2 c ya there... -Mo > ummm..hello !! I am in Santa Clara, no that far, you should go with us > for sure one time. I am going tomorrow, but I will be going next week > too, so maybe you can go then. Also,this saturday DAY there is an all > breaks party in SF we are throwing, check it out : 415/289-2100 ext.118 > > C-ya > Jessica > --- madhav@table.jps.net wrote: > > Where is Eklektik held? > > > > I'm in the South Bay (Cupertino), but I got a place > > to crash in SF > > since I'm up there every weekend! > > This Thursday may be a problem 'cause I still have > > to finish my taxes! > > ugh! > > > > -Mo > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > Go to Eklektik!! Its on Thursday nights, and it > > is awesome for D&B. > > > Where do you live? I go every thursday, you may > > wanna join us one > > > time. > > > > > > Jessica > > > > > > > > > --- madhav@table.jps.net wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > I've been doin the East Coast scene since '92, > > but > > > > haven't been to > > > > a party in a while-- and I haven't been in the > > SF > > > > Bay area for long... > > > > anxious to get into the local scene... > > > > > > > > Can anyone suggest some good 21+ parties coming > > up? > > > > I like Drum N Bass, > > > > Trance, hardcore... > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > -Madhav a.k.a. "Mo" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 21:53:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4938 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 21:53:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4915 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 21:53:02 -0000 Received: from www.technogenesis.com (HELO technogenesis.com) (204.96.100.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 21:53:02 -0000 Received: from technogenesis.com (x-static.technogenesis.com [209.220.44.67]) by technogenesis.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id PAA08885 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:04:11 -0700 Message-ID: <37166037.D96D2782@technogenesis.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:55:03 -0700 From: Bruce Krysiak Organization: Technogenesis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves Subject: 66MHz? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey list folx... So I've not seen any talk about folks going to this for a few days - just bought tix for me and gfriend from LA, love to know some friendly people there... (Though I guess maybe we'll meet all the WHDD or whatever peeps instead :p ) 'Specially since I'm such a lurker and want to meet all you fun people! =) Else maybe I'll see people at Epiphany/Harmony or Spundae (hardcore partying weekend)... Umm... Oh yeah, description of us: me: 6' blond white guy, long hair, prob w/black backpack, Sandy: 5'7" Thai descent, long dk brown hair... Come up and say hi! - Bruce -- Listen to my latest creation in RealAudio: http://www.technogenesis.com/cgi-bin/tekgen/gbindex.pl?fromid=USER938&play=TRK01808/TRK02003/TRK03201/TRK01702/TRK00809/TRK00510/TRK01602/TRK01708/TRK00105 bruce krysiak voice/fax (usa): 415.431.2923 ceo, technogenesis bruce@technogenesis.com 430 fillmore, suite c san francisco, ca 94117 ------- The Birth of a New Music Revolution http://www.technogenesis.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 21:57:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6638 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 21:57:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 6449 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 21:57:11 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 21:57:11 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA27250 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:56:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca19-52.ix.netcom.com(209.110.228.180) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027183; Thu Apr 15 16:55:40 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990415143742.0093b800@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:56:01 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Harmony's Ticket & event info!!! (bsp) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_9334742==_.ALT" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_9334742==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello sfravers!!! So here is the up to date info on the Springtime Flower Festival... Since the flyer came out we have added a dj to the list, he is the Junglist HAK from Solid Grooves. So the up to date line up is as follows: *HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL* THE TECH HOUSE TULIPS Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recording artist, Los Angeles) Angel Alanis (Missile Records UK, 4 Track Records, Contaminated, from Chicago) Greg Sandler (Harmony/ Harmonics) Dutch (Inner Eye/ Area 51) LI (Harmony/ Viberation) MAC (Harmony/ Harmonics) THE DRUM N' DAISIES Hak (Solid Grooves) Protolab (Live performance, SF) Re: (Live performance, SF) Science (Harmony/ Viberation) Russel G (Harmony/ Harmonics) Cimino (Harmony) THE DOWNBEAT DAFFODILS Tha Roman (Yougoodmissy, LA) Andy W (Live performance) J-Bot (Live performance) Jahsh (Harmony) B))merang For info & directions call (408)486-9591 or (415)289-6788 www.harmonyproductions.com We are almost sold out of $20 presale tickets for this event. (thank you to everyone who has gone out and supported us this early in the game) Even though we are almost out of presales, THERE ARE DEFINATELY MORE TICKETS AT THE DOOR!!! There are going to be a limited number of tickets at the door for $25 for those of you who couldn't get presales. But we recommend that you come early to make sure that you get in. Also, remember that this is a costume party. It is not required that you dress up but it it encouraged. So get all dressed up in your most funky festive colorful clothing and come out and dance your ass off!!! We can't wait! See you there!!! Peace and loooooooove, Greg= ) --=====================_9334742==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hello sfravers!!!

So here is the up to date info on the Springtime Flower Festival...

Since the flyer came out we have added a dj to the list, he is the Junglist HAK from Solid Grooves. So the up to date line up is as follows:

*HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL*

THE TECH HOUSE TULIPS           
Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recording artist, Los Angeles)               
Angel Alanis (Missile Records UK, 4 Track Records, Contaminated, from Chicago)  
Greg Sandler (Harmony/ Harmonics)                                       
Dutch   (Inner Eye/ Area 51)
LI (Harmony/ Viberation)                                
MAC (Harmony/ Harmonics)

THE DRUM N' DAISIES
Hak (Solid Grooves)
Protolab (Live performance, SF)
Re: (Live performance, SF)
Science (Harmony/ Viberation)
Russel G (Harmony/ Harmonics)
Cimino (Harmony)

THE DOWNBEAT DAFFODILS
Tha Roman (Yougoodmissy, LA)
Andy W (Live performance)
J-Bot (Live performance)
Jahsh (Harmony)
B))merang

For info & directions call (408)486-9591 or (415)289-6788
www.harmonyproductions.com


We are almost sold out of $20 presale tickets for this event. (thank you to everyone who has gone out and supported us this early in the game)

Even though we are almost out of presales,
THERE ARE DEFINATELY MORE TICKETS AT THE DOOR!!!

There are going to be a limited number of tickets at the door for $25 for those of you who couldn't get presales. But we recommend that you come early to make sure that you get in.

Also, remember that this is a costume party. It is not required that you dress up but it it encouraged. So get all dressed up in your most funky festive colorful clothing and come out and dance your ass off!!! We can't wait! See you there!!!

Peace and loooooooove,

Greg= ) --=====================_9334742==_.ALT-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 22:17:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20782 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 22:17:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 20770 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 22:17:11 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 22:17:11 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vPPQa12143 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:16:35 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: <47ad1e71.2447beac@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:14:04 EDT Subject: Meeting Spot at Epiphany? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: GParry1925@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone? How bout we all just wear red shirts? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 22:20:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24314 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 22:20:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 24135 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 22:20:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 22:20:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 33756 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 22:19:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415221937.33755.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.32.130 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:19:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.32.130] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: hope everyone is having a great day (NRR) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:19:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i hope everyone is having as great a day as i am. the sun is still out and shining down on everyone. i'm wishing that i wasn't sitting in class right now, but sitting on a sandy beach. but it's still a perfect day. everyone is lying on the grass outside, soaking up the sun, and just watching the clouds go by. take some time to relax and enjoy this beautiful weather. hopefully tomorrow and the weekend will be like this to! love lia (the only and only LuShSnOOpiE!!!) 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Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 23:03:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19740 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 23:03:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 19725 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 23:03:33 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 23:03:33 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vQGRa24965 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:43:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <4daa2b92.2447c57b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:43:07 EDT Subject: Re: hope everyone is having a great day (NRR) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk why was it so fookin windy today van dammit?? well i guess thats how it is when u live in the oddest city in the bay area....the city of richmond. i am the biggest oddity to the city of richmond. by the way if there are any ravers in richmond let me know because i feel alone and i need to know that im not the only one that has to breath those gas fumes from the cheveron refinery while im bumpin my jungle. other than that....its sunny like it always is in the bay(yeah like for one week only..u guys know how it is here...one week of heatwave and its 50 degrees til next spring/summer DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 23:21:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28945 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 23:21:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 28905 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 23:21:45 -0000 Received: from web215.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 23:21:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415232411.18804.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.231] by web215.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:24:11 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: FW: How to impress To: "Comolli, Loic" , 'sfraves' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hell, i'd be impressed if she showed up at all! :P mickey the stickyman o)-< --- "Comolli, Loic" wrote: > MAKING AN IMPRESSION > > HOW TO IMPRESS A WOMAN: > 1. Compliment her, > 2. Cuddle her, > 3. Kiss her, > 4. Caress her, > 5. Love her, > 6. Stroke her, > 7. Tease her, > 8. Comfort her, > 9. Protect her, > 10. Hug her, > 11. Hold her, > 12. Spend money on her, > 13. Wine & dine her, > 14. Buy things for her, > 15. Listen to her, > 16. Care for her, > 17. Stand by her, > 18. Support her, > 19. Go to the ends of the earth for her.... > > > HOW TO IMPRESS A MAN: > 1. Show up naked. > 2. Bring beer. > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 15 23:41:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9697 invoked by uid 6000); 15 Apr 1999 23:40:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 9328 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1999 23:40:42 -0000 Received: from web705.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 23:40:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415234010.16442.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.196.4.30] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:40:10 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:40:10 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: Re: BSP-Epiphany*DAYbreaks*SaturDAY To: Jessica Webster , Tabitha Hanrion , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so, that plus the Hardkiss party in freemont and the vertigo on the beach in the sunset, that makes *3* free daytime parties going down on saturday. can you feel the summer yet ? --- Jessica Webster wrote: > Woo Hoo! Joy Unrestraint! > > I look forward to meeting y'all (below, and all > y'all else, as well) > > Jessica > > At 01:42 PM 4/15/99 -0700, Tabitha Hanrion wrote: > >>>>>>>> THIS SATURDAY, April 17th! > >>>>>>>> Epiphany presents DayBreaks! > >>>>>>>> ALL DAY -- ALL BREAKS!!! > >Beats begin at -> NOON SHARP <- > > > >Prime, outdoor, virgin, beautiful, permitted > location in San > >Francisco! This is a donation-based *DAYTIME* event > to benefit > >the Red Cross. DayBreaks is sponsored by KZSU > radio. > > > >The PHATTEST lineup: > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Jason (Epiphany) [jungle)] > >ReAch (Static/A*R*M) [hip hop] > >Siphon & Hak (Urban Assault) [jungle] > >Science & AndyW (Viberation/Harmony) > [electrodowntempo] > >Jungle Life Crew (SF) [jungle scratch-a-thon] > >Uncle Noah (Abduction Productions/LA) [breakbeat] > >Jahsh (Harmony) [downtempo] > > > >With your mackadacious host, MC Duh! > > > > > > > >Call the voicemail starting on FRIDAY night for > exact location & info: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415/289-2100 ext.118 > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > >Come party with us before the Harmony springtime! > > > >* Please, absolutely no alcohol! > >* Barefoot dancing, too -- the ground will be nice > and dry! > >* Please bring something to share on our Solar > Altar. > > > > > > > >Sunshine, > >Epiphany > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 00:01:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22752 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 00:01:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 22744 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 00:01:03 -0000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (17.254.0.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 00:01:03 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com ([17.129.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07726 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:57:09 -0700 Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (mailgate2.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:57:02 -0700 Received: from [17.128.202.4] (macip2-4.apple.com [17.128.202.4]) by scv3.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA30306 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:57:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199904152357.QAA30306@scv3.apple.com> Subject: Paging: Giles Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:57:02 -0700 x-sender: oakl_bbong@pop.oakland.crosswinds.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Bbong To: "SFRaves" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk d00d, drop me your e-mail, I have some venture capitalism for you! bb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 00:22:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5140 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 00:22:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5127 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 00:22:05 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?uY89arWu7OxsPToAfBoqrWXbR4it8TzY?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 00:22:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id RAA06694; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:19:42 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:19:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Greg Sandler cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Harmony's Ticket & event info!!! (bsp) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990415143742.0093b800@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Greg Sandler wrote: > > Since the flyer came out we have added a dj to the list, he is the HAK > from Solid Grooves. So the up to date line up is as follows: yeahyeah nice1 URBAN ASSAULT SQUAD, Hak is going to slam you. > > Also, remember that this is a costume party. It is not required that you dress > up but it it encouraged. So get all dressed up in your most funky festive > colorful clothing and come out and dance your ass off!!! OK, I am going to be the first to say....unless I am paid in gold bullion, I am not going to clean all yall's munkyfunk raver asses off the floor after you're gone. I mean sweeping asses into big piles and then disposing of them according to the local laws regulating ass disposal is a huge pain....in the nuts, I guess. big up Greg and Harmony crew, this party is going to be mental. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 01:03:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24063 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 01:03:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 24055 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 01:03:27 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 01:03:27 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca13-32.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.32]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12971; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37168C09.9DF4B77D@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:02:01 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafie CC: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions References: <199904152031.NAA05779@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Don't take any more than 50 mg of 5-hydroxy-tryptophan... 5-htp is converted into serotonin outside of the brain and too much serotonin can lead to problems. You may be ok with 100 mg, but just be careful. Some products may advertise 1,000 mg of 5-HTP, but if you can read... they are just contain 1,000 mg of griffonia simplicifolia and that plant is %10 5-HTP so that means you only are getting 100 mg of 5HTP, which ok.. Also, you NEED vitamin B6, Niacin, Magnesium, & Vitamins C to covert the 5-HTP into serotonin. Also, 5-HTP is the weakest amino acid and that means if you take any 5-HTP on a full stomach or with any protein... it may not work. OK. This is some of what I know. If I am in error, please post. =Paul*E*Wog Rafie wrote: > > Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! *breath* AGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! > > Okay, let's review: > a) don't ever take anywhere near 20 hits of ecstacy EVER > b) since apparently you already did, you don't feel it anymore because when > you ABUSE ecstacy you don't feel the warm lovey effects, just the > amphetamine ones > c) if you want to feel ecstacy again, there's a chance you might be able to > if you don't do it for say a YEAR and then try one hit of pure MDMA, but > you're probably so physically and psychologically used to it that it > will never be the same again > d) 5-HTP helps build or replenish seretonin. So a raver could use it after > doing something stressful on the body at an all nite techno rave party. > Its natural, its a step in the formation of seretonin. Ask someone at a > vitamin/health store about dosages, but you could try 200 mg in the > morning after a party, then get plenty of rest > > Please be responsible. > > Rafie > PS- Next time you get that fucked up please don't wear candy, or bright > colors, and stay in a dark corner, because it exacerbates the bad image > that candy kids and ravers in general have already > > On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:19:03 EDT, > KaNdeEKlD@aol.com wrote... > >okay, so I know the hype about this has died down, but, I'm tired of my 20 > >hits of e not working anymore and am willing to try almost anything that > >may > >work, So I have a few q's for anyone that may know! 1- Does it really > >enhance > >E... 2- haow much to you take at a time... 3- how long before dropping e > do > >you take it... 4- how safe is it 5- anything else anyone may know.... I > >need > >this info by Sat if possible... thanx in advance. - Jenn > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 01:03:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24959 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 01:03:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 24690 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 01:03:42 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 01:03:42 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca13-32.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.32]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13089; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3715736C.474C7570@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:04:44 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: leslie.ayres@excite.com, Max McCauley Subject: Re: Some constants in life... References: <924107616.22552.554@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am 18 years old. No, i am not a candy raver. I am not even a raver. I think the problem with these parties is that there are too many ravers there and not enough people. If i want to go see dumb ass retarded kids fucked up on drugs, I will go hang out at Cupertino High School during lunchtime and fuck with all the tweaks there. I show up at these events to DANCE!!! It is damn annoying when some kid starts touching my gloves without asking. Yes my gloves are cool, and they probably feel terrific on e. I don't know this kid. I don't want his dirty sweaty hands all over my clothing articles. I am not here to meet some dirty candy trash. I am here to see my friends and listen to music on a big sound system. Even still, that hardly happens because lately the sound systems SUCK!!! They never have enough BASS and my friends never show up and I end up finding 3 friends at the party. Damn tickle!! I should have gone to Audio Impact! And I am nothing like a e-tarded candy teenager. I may have been once in my life, but eventually reality kicked in an i discovered that i can not get though life on hugs and plur alone. In the words of Vlad... "Keep It Real!" PLUR is not reality, candy is not reality, and e does not make everything all right in this world. E is an evil drug that creates a perfect utopian vision of the way life should be while it destroys your serotonin neurotransmitters. (Directed to PLURY Punks on e AKA Candy Trash) If you want something real... get off your floored ass and dance. You are taking up space and if you don't start doing something constructive with it I will walk all over you. John S. Lee talked about taking back the scene. Well, it only takes one fed up kid who can't take it anymore to kick some candy bitch and dirty tweaker ass and wake up this dazed and confused scene. And I think that you have the right idea, Leslie... TOUGH LOVE. I would like to change that slightly though and add a pinch of TOUGH PLUR. I hate ravers!!!! Bring back the people!!!! Candy Ravers aint shit! Die Candy Raver Die! =Paul*E*Wog P.S. I am going to Harmony. I am going to dance. leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > paul-e-wog said.. > > > I don't think someone wants to go to a rave where the average age is 16 > > and all these kids should be at home doing their homework, but they are > > at a rave, fucked up on e and taking up dancing space because they are > > on the floor all e tarded. > > i'm sorry paul, can you tell us again... are you 17 now? oooohhh.... > getting awfully cranky in your old age, aren't you? maybe you even turned > 18??? wow!! > > come on, get real.... and every time you act like you're not one of these > kids on this list, i'm going to publicly remind you and everyone else that i > have fresh memories of you just this way, the e-tarded candy kid... one of > the greatest dangers in life, my young friend, is thinking that you are so > very different from other people... and this particular thread of you acting > like you're not a teenaged candy kid is pretty ridiculous. > > just think of it as my personal public service to sfraves... and when you > stop, i'll stop. > > (tough) love, leslie > > _______________________________________________________ > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 01:04:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25491 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 01:04:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 25251 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 01:03:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 01:03:56 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca13-32.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.32]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13323; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37159ABB.2C46F67E@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:52:27 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: trancebaby_ NBC CC: JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? need help? References: <19990415061125.18082.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OMG!!! Raoul, I love you!!!!! I'm going to kick you ass when i see you at Harmony, you bitch! Hahahahahahaahaha!! You are too funny ROTFL!!! =Paul*E*Wog trancebaby_ NBC wrote: > > awwww, you are sooo cute with all your stupid questions . . How old > are you????? 5 years old?? I can hardly think that you are any > older!!! > > You want to know where the party is fine. info # available on the > flyer. you don't remember how to get to that one place fine, after > the party is there I'll give you the directions. It's just a space > you can look at it too!!! Don't remember what city you were in??? > well you can't drive or you'd know and you don't pay attention or > you'd know. Maybe it was too many drugs, lay offa them yeah? > You want to know what a dj is??????? this is stupid, you don't > party you don't go to raves you just want to expose this scene. want > me to tell you where I get my E you dip??? I could give the #of the > biggest dealer in town. whatever. . . !!!!! > > In anycase I had to rant at this alter ego just 'cuz this > person is sitting and laughing at the rest of us who respond to > him/her. . . well, keep laughing cause the joke is definitely on us. > . . . !!!! however your humor needs upgrading and aimed at the > knowledgable group that composes this list. peace Raoul 'the > wiseman' > > >From: JanetBoy7@aol.com > >Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: [NRR] What's a DJ? > >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:40:08 EDT > > > >Hey plur people... > > > >I was wondering is a DJ a person that mixes music, or makes music?? > > > >Or is it a complation of both?? > >What's the title of the person that makes music? > > > >Thanks for any help... > > > >~#*.:•{LoVe JanetBoy}•:.*#~ > > > > > > >*P*L*U*R* > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 01:04:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26115 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 01:04:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 25801 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 01:04:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 01:04:13 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca13-32.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.32]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13250; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37159A02.50659A13@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:49:22 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 5HTP does not enhance ecstacy... It is not used for that and no one claims that it does. 5HTP restores serotonin If you take 5HTP with your e you will feel the e less. If e does not work anymore maybe you should stop for 6 months. It takes 6 months to bring your tolerance down as much as possible. Stop taking e now if you want to feel it later. =Paul*E*Wog KaNdeEKlD@aol.com wrote: > > okay, so I know the hype about this has died down, but, I'm tired of my 20 > hits of e not working anymore and am willing to try almost anything that may > work, So I have a few q's for anyone that may know! 1- Does it really enhance > E... 2- haow much to you take at a time... 3- how long before dropping e do > you take it... 4- how safe is it 5- anything else anyone may know.... I need > this info by Sat if possible... thanx in advance. - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 01:15:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 449 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 01:15:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 438 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 01:15:52 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 01:15:52 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vQIWa21002 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:14:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:14:40 EDT Subject: nrr: get $$$ for your opinion To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: Pogobee@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone! my friend sent me an email allowing me to get $50 for two hours of my time. i follwed through, but i'm not eligible. here's a couple of the requirements: 1. must be at least 21 2. can not be working for a web firm. there's more info towards the bottom, so email away. the worst that can happen is you get 50 bucks. how bad is that? tell her chuckie sent you :) -- pogo <> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 01:33:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7921 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 01:33:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 7752 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 01:33:27 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 01:33:27 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iEMZa00792; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:24:01 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:23:38 EDT Subject: Re: [NRR] What's a DJ? need help? To: trancebaby@hotmail.com, JanetBoy7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk why is everyone such a dick when someone asks an honest question... damn, to the best of my knowledge a dj is someone who spins records but mixes the stuff live to make it flow better, a producer/artist/whatever makes the music the dj's play but the producer sometimes spins also matthew From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 01:40:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12834 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 01:40:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12820 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 01:40:44 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 01:40:44 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA29693; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:39:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from unknown(209.110.239.33) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma029651; Thu Apr 15 20:39:22 1999 Message-ID: <371694B6.C5670138@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:39:02 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul*E*Wog CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, leslie.ayres@excite.com, Max McCauley Subject: Re: Some constants in life... References: <924107616.22552.554@excite.com> <3715736C.474C7570@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Paul*E*Wog wrote: > I am 18 years old. No, i am not a candy raver. I am not even a raver. I > think the problem with these parties is that there are too many ravers > there and not enough people. You know Paul, that's actually a really good point. People shouldn't be trying so hard to fit in, that they stick out. The scene is about being yourself, not becoming someone else. > If i want to go see dumb ass retarded kids fucked up on drugs, I will go > hang out at Cupertino High School during lunchtime and fuck with all the > tweaks there. > > I show up at these events to DANCE!!! It is damn annoying when some kid > starts touching my gloves without asking. Yes my gloves are cool, and > they probably feel terrific on e. I don't know this kid. I don't want > his dirty sweaty hands all over my clothing articles. I am not here to > meet some dirty candy trash. I am here to see my friends and listen to > music on a big sound system. Even still, that hardly happens because > lately the sound systems SUCK!!! They never have enough BASS and my > friends never show up and I end up finding 3 friends at the party. > > Damn tickle!! I should have gone to Audio Impact! > > And I am nothing like a e-tarded candy teenager. > I may have been once in my life, but eventually reality kicked in an i > discovered that i can not get though life on hugs and plur alone. > > In the words of Vlad... "Keep It Real!" Good for you Paul, You've Matured a lot since the first time I met you on this list. I remember telling you back then that when you get older you will begin to recognize things differently, and I can tell that the prophecy has unfolded. Im also very flattered by the quote, but don't make a habit of quoting me... ok. > PLUR is not reality, candy is not reality, and e does not make > everything all right in this world. E is an evil drug that creates a > perfect utopian vision of the way life should be while it destroys your > serotonin neurotransmitters. Can I quote you on my next flyer... I like this. > (Directed to PLURY Punks on e AKA Candy Trash) If you want something > real... get off your floored ass and dance. You are taking up space and > if you don't start doing something constructive with it I will walk all > over you. > > John S. Lee talked about taking back the scene. Well, it only takes one > fed up kid who can't take it anymore to kick some candy bitch and dirty > tweaker ass and wake up this dazed and confused scene. Random candy raver beatings?... nah... but I think it would be hella funny to see a gang of candy ravers beat down some of those gangster ravers. > And I think that you have the right idea, Leslie... TOUGH LOVE. > I would like to change that slightly though and add a pinch of TOUGH > PLUR. It shouldn't have to be tough. Keep it mellow, Vlad > > > I hate ravers!!!! Bring back the people!!!! > Candy Ravers aint shit! Die Candy Raver Die! > > =Paul*E*Wog > P.S. I am going to Harmony. I am going to dance. > > leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > > > paul-e-wog said.. > > > > > I don't think someone wants to go to a rave where the average age is 16 > > > and all these kids should be at home doing their homework, but they are > > > at a rave, fucked up on e and taking up dancing space because they are > > > on the floor all e tarded. > > > > i'm sorry paul, can you tell us again... are you 17 now? oooohhh.... > > getting awfully cranky in your old age, aren't you? maybe you even turned > > 18??? wow!! > > > > come on, get real.... and every time you act like you're not one of these > > kids on this list, i'm going to publicly remind you and everyone else that i > > have fresh memories of you just this way, the e-tarded candy kid... one of > > the greatest dangers in life, my young friend, is thinking that you are so > > very different from other people... and this particular thread of you acting > > like you're not a teenaged candy kid is pretty ridiculous. > > > > just think of it as my personal public service to sfraves... and when you > > stop, i'll stop. > > > > (tough) love, leslie > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 01:51:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17526 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 01:51:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 17398 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 01:51:49 -0000 Received: from f65.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 01:51:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 63934 invoked by uid 0); 16 Apr 1999 01:51:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416015144.63933.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 38.28.103.186 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:51:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [38.28.103.186] From: "p r" To: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: eklektic Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:51:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi, Is any1 really fup right now? I'm listen 2 the Bros gonna... tight! (2k me 3mins 2 write this email) ;p~~ armagedonas SJSU "Pan metron ariston" Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 02:02:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21769 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 02:02:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 21757 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 02:01:59 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 02:01:59 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id uDWIa05708; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:59:21 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:56:30 EDT Subject: Re: Some constants in life... To: rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, goodvibe@geocities.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, leslie.ayres@excite.com, maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey paul i'd love to see you try to kick my ass... its on bitch... im already fighitng trice and soon as im done beatin the crap outta her im gonna kill you PLUR MOTHERFUCKER ghetto love, candy til i die (or see how dumb i look) matt p.s. if anyone is that dumb not know im joking i think its time to stop frying From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 02:23:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1132 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 02:23:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 1122 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 02:23:18 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 02:23:18 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vOCBa24965 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:21:03 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:20:12 EDT Subject: : Some constants in life... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_db528305.2447f85c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_db528305.2447f85c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_db528305.2447f85c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: BigM009@aol.com From: BigM009@aol.com Full-name: Big M 009 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:19:37 EDT Subject: Re: Some constants in life... To: AdidasXE7@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com All right. Next rave lets have a boxing ring in the middle of the dance floor. You can pay $10 a head and box your asses off to some kick ass trance. Peace, M --part1_db528305.2447f85c_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 02:25:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2502 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 02:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 2371 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 02:25:13 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 02:25:13 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vDQRa26021 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:22:48 EDT Subject: Info on Dj Carlos To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any contact info on Dj Carlos? Thanks, Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 02:37:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10329 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 02:37:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 10293 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 02:37:42 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 02:37:42 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vDAOa27249; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:36:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <574e43ad.2447fc2f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:36:31 EDT Subject: Re: : Some constants in life... To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/15/99 7:23:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BigM009@aol.com writes: << All right. Next rave lets have a boxing ring in the middle of the dance floor. You can pay $10 a head and box your asses off to some kick ass trance. Peace, M >> Hey, I have already thought of that Idea.... Im just waiting for enough people to sign up... =) HUGS*** Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 02:47:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13451 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 02:47:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13443 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 02:47:04 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 02:47:04 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 9NBIa03718; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:46:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <3c6fb036.2447fe5d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:45:49 EDT Subject: Re: FW: How to impress To: LXC@crai.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/15/99 10:40:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, LXC@crai.com writes: << MAKING AN IMPRESSION HOW TO IMPRESS A WOMAN: 1. Compliment her, 2. Cuddle her, 3. Kiss her, 4. Caress her, 5. Love her, 6. Stroke her, 7. Tease her, 8. Comfort her, 9. Protect her, 10. Hug her, 11. Hold her, 12. Spend money on her, 13. Wine & dine her, 14. Buy things for her, 15. Listen to her, 16. Care for her, 17. Stand by her, 18. Support her, 19. Go to the ends of the earth for her.... Ahhhhh, Come down the Earth, cause thats not reality!!! =() HOW TO IMPRESS A MAN: 1. Show up naked. 2. Bring beer. >> Ok something is wrong here.... Why cant I get a man to show up naked and bring me a 6 pack of beer??? That would impress me!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 02:57:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16840 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 02:57:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 16832 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 02:57:38 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 02:57:38 -0000 Received: from tigger (dynamic56.pm08.sf3d.best.com [209.24.235.248]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id TAA05772 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990415195826.007ea3f0@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:58:26 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: bring out your vibe! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk today has been SUCH a beautiful day. it's the perfect night for heading out and supporting your local clubs and continuing the great energy the sun has given us. it's a 'short sleeves' night... dress up in your favorite wear and come on out! tonight at club Faith we're having Blackstone, Ruben Mancias and Tracer spinning. Come out and have some Faith.. otherwise head out and find your own favorite party of the night. hugs! p.s. if ur out at Faith tonight.. check out the crazy-ass drag queen bartending upstairs..... she made her own little lounge experience for everyone tonight =) Have a little **FAITH** Mike Galetto Faith Family http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 03:30:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2418 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 03:30:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 2408 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 03:30:24 -0000 Received: from www10.web2010.com (root@209.235.15.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 03:30:24 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.62] (madmax-62.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.62]) by www10.web2010.com (8.9.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA27615; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904160329.XAA27615@www10.web2010.com> Subject: Re: Tickle OD's --> SoberRaving is here!!! Date: Thu, 15 Apr 99 20:30:12 -0700 x-sender: liquidhg5@liquidmercury.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: dj mad merc To: , , , , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the sober raving movement has already begun. we have formed an email discussion group that you can sign up for via myself, Sherry/Mercury. this group and movement are all about supporting and introducing SoberRaving to the new rave generation. it is sad to see these young new faces coming into the scene not understanding that it is about music and eachother and NOT the drugs. our mission is to show how motivated we are about being SoberRavers and to educate those in the scene who don't know that drugs are not what these parties are about. AND if the path of drugs is going to be to followed so strongly our scene will soon be gone. raving is a privilage...let's not destroy it. be responsible....SoberRaving - sherry look at http://www.liquidmercury.com/sober_raving for the the upcoming SoberRaving website and t-shirts and stickers too. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 04:01:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16669 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 04:01:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 16652 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 04:01:43 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 04:01:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416035519.19572.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.251.191.202] by attach1; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:55:19 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:55:19 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: Pj fuzzy on the mend going to a go go To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oooooooh if I keep partying like it’s 1999- I may not see 2000. My aching back. I dunno if my post about the roller disco party made it through. I but I learned a new respect for gravity that night. At one point I looked down at my wrist and it looked like it was bent off at a strange angle- fortunately it was just the swelling from falling on it too often. No one answered my question last time. Who was skyler and what happened? Then last night I forced myself to go to bondage a go go for their fifth annual body modification contest. It wasn’t neat as wild as I heard it was last year when the winner was a guy that had his skull opened up so he could have screws embedded, and the runner up was a breast reduction gone bad. This year it was just some guy who had his armpits pierced. I would have voted for the guy who lit up the xmas lights via the piercings in his penis. I talked to him at length after the contest about where this kind of thing could possibly go- I predict , and I’ve probably said this before, that people will start replacing body parts with bionics (or grafted animal parts) as a way to shock the status quo. None of my coworkers would go with me, they said they did not like the vibe. What’s not to like? it's sleazy and rocking at the same time. Ok so the dj’s play too much prodigy and insist on jarring transitions between the songs but its fun. I like watching all the decked out goth vampire gypsies doing their little hippie Lestat dances. There was one girl their last night who stood out especially from the rest, she was wearing a Hansen t-shirt. I told her I thought was an awesome costume to wear to bondage a go go- talk about your masochists.;) I gotta remember that while it is fun to get a little drunk on red wine and dance- it is not necessarily more fun to get more drunk . While I was drunk I filled out a wild side ad for sfweekly. I am not sure what it said but it had something to do with whipped cream…. Now my poor ole bones are screaming and I gotta save my energy for the come as a prepubescent party that is being thrown tomorrow. Anyone know where I can find an oversize pair of fuzzy pjs??? pjf From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 04:12:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21696 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 04:12:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 21678 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 04:12:21 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 04:12:21 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 3JVRa28860 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:11:27 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: <94b53403.2448126e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:11:26 EDT Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay okay... enough already... I do not take drugs that often... yes I know that u can have LOTS of fun without them... I usually go to parties sober, like 4 out of every 5 parties I go to r sober parties... I'm not some dumb drug fiend or anything, I was simply asking about 5-HTP, that's it, my friend heard some shit, bought some and wanted me to try it with him on Sat, I was just inquiring if the e-mails I read or the shit he heard had any truth in it... please don't jump to conclusions about me just because i ask a drug related question... much love and respect - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 04:14:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22665 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 04:14:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 22653 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 04:14:12 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 04:14:12 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vWUZa25027 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:13:37 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: <355980b1.244812ea@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:13:30 EDT Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay okay... enough already... I do not take drugs that often... yes I know that u can have LOTS of fun without them... I usually go to parties sober, like 4 out of every 5 parties I go to r sober parties... I'm not some dumb drug fiend or anything, I was simply asking about 5-HTP, that's it, my friend heard some shit, bought some and wanted me to try it with him on Sat, I was just inquiring if the e-mails I read or the shit he heard had any truth in it... please don't jump to conclusions about me just because i ask a drug related question... much love and respect - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 04:18:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24488 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 04:18:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 24475 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 04:18:34 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 04:18:34 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vOMRa00792 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:17:21 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: <9c9bdd12.244813cb@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:17:15 EDT Subject: TYPO!!! 5-HTP Questions To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk By the way... When I said 20 hits of e I meant 20 dollar hits of e... no onder u all thought I was a drug fiend!!! sorry - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 04:39:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1578 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 04:38:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 1569 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 04:38:56 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 04:38:56 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.95] (congo-95.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.95]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA26379; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:38:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:12:08 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Thu) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I want you all to know that I tried to consider quoting Nostradamus. I coudlnt seem to find anything I was comfortable with. Though I find the apparent accuracy of his predictions to be intriguing, most of them do not affect me directly, at least not yet. Predictions like this and from other of famous people, my acquaintances and friends who fit the description of a sort of abstract thinker seem to talk in symbols and riddles. They are also seen through the eyes of one man. Perhaps to him what seems like the end of the world might be everyday insanity for us. Clogged freeways, higher gas prices, horns honking...guys in SF and Oakland always trying to sell those street sheet things. The crisis in the Balkans, of course remind me how completely fortunate I am to live far, far away from that type of destruction. For the history of mankind as far back as we can tell, there has always been some type of war going on almost every waking and sleeping moments on our planet. I, for one, will enjoy this August 13th, because the suspense will be wonderful until then! What will happen then? Maybe someone will build a chocolate spaceship and zoom me into oblivion! ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 05:02:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9086 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 05:02:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 9069 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 05:02:54 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 05:02:54 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id jEHDa05709; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <5b4d70e9.24481dd1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:00:01 EDT Subject: Re: Monterey Jungle? To: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu, talk@warmth.org CC: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk where is this goin down? maybe ill come and spin... get me back From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 05:04:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10052 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 05:04:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 10040 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 05:04:54 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 05:04:54 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id rIRRa25133; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:03:43 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:03:42 EDT Subject: Re: david blaine magicman To: UDuNoMeeee@aol.com, montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk an angel?! hah, i can perform at least 3 of those tricks he did on tv, all simple slide of hand, if nothing else your email has motivated me to practice so someday to i can be regarded as holy for pick the same card as u ;P From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 05:10:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12356 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 05:10:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 12341 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 05:10:24 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 05:10:24 -0000 Received: from Juju0322@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vIFRa27251; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:09:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Juju0322@aol.com Message-ID: <385e210b.24481fea@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:08:58 EDT Subject: I know magic To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i took circus skills and a magic class last year, i have hella skillz now...hehe i can balance a chair on my chin and make baloon animals and do magic tricks and all, im also a contortionist...im a hella one chick show...haha...peace -Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 05:20:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16565 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 05:20:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 16449 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 05:20:44 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 05:20:44 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-48.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.48]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA24801 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990416035337.006d89a8@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:53:37 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: I know magic Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not to be bitchy or anything but can we use please use NRR on post like this and the david magician thing....Of if you don't wanna do that then you can always send it private :) Nuku At 01:08 AM 4/16/99 EDT, you wrote: >i took circus skills and a magic class last year, i have hella skillz >now...hehe i can balance a chair on my chin and make baloon animals and do >magic tricks and all, im also a contortionist...im a hella one chick >show...haha...peace >-Stephanie Marie- > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 05:30:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19633 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 05:30:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19623 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 05:30:38 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 05:30:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 17144 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 05:30:36 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 05:30:36 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station225.thegrid.net [209.162.3.225]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA07480; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3716CA9C.B77B1B5E@thegrid.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:29:00 -0700 From: Mark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dj mad merc , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Tickle OD's --> SoberRaving is here!!! References: <199904160329.XAA27615@www10.web2010.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > look at http://www.liquidmercury.com/sober_raving > for the the upcoming SoberRaving website and t-shirts > and stickers too. Are you gonna X your hands too? This has been coming for awhile. Sounds nice, I'll just sit back and smirk when we start seeing sXe crews at raves and the judgemental attitudes that come with it. Check out http://www.straightedge.com/ they can help you out with tee shirts and stickers while you put your net presence together =;) ug, symmetry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 06:01:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2362 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 06:01:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 2342 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 06:01:13 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 06:01:13 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id oYNKa00663; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:59:44 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:59:42 EDT Subject: Re: I know magic To: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk not to be bitchy but, why does it bother u so much if it doesnt say NRR??...dont tell me u didnt know that this was rave related..jesus look at the subject line..*I know Magic* obviously man, u must have known..hey im not trying be a jerk, maybe u might have some big reason to see NRR *no flames* dean* << Not to be bitchy or anything but can we use please use NRR on post like this and the david magician thing....Of if you don't wanna do that then you can always send it private :) Nuku >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 06:45:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18569 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 06:45:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18561 invoked by uid 233); 16 Apr 1999 06:45:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 22984 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 03:12:03 -0000 Received: from ns1.vdn.com (HELO ns1.nothingbutnet.net) (206.13.41.251) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 03:12:03 -0000 Received: from wingate (pm6-131.nothingbutnet.net [206.13.41.131]) by ns1.nothingbutnet.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/jjb-ns1) with SMTP id UAA10960 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904160312.UAA10960@ns1.nothingbutnet.net> X-Sender: bat#mail.internet-frontier.net@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:09:22 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Bat Subject: This Sunday (18th): NOT BREATHING & Pantopon Rose Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This Sunday April 18th: (Invisible Recording Artists) NOT BREATHING with special guests PANTOPON ROSE at The Black Lodge. http://www.cyberden.com/blacklodge (415-289-6558) 443 Broadway (the velvet lounge). Doors 8pm! Only $6! 21+ Bat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 07:12:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23538 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 07:12:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 23528 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 07:12:02 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 07:12:02 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca14-109.ix.netcom.com [205.186.215.109]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02872; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3716E274.85F2CBC4@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:10:44 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ravergrl27@aol.com CC: LXC@crai.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: FW: How to impress References: <3c6fb036.2447fe5d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's because you've never asked Andy W. He is always naked when he drinx his beer. He told me so himself. =Paul*E*Wog Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/15/99 10:40:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, LXC@crai.com > writes: > > << > MAKING AN IMPRESSION > > HOW TO IMPRESS A WOMAN: > 1. Compliment her, > 2. Cuddle her, > 3. Kiss her, > 4. Caress her, > 5. Love her, > 6. Stroke her, > 7. Tease her, > 8. Comfort her, > 9. Protect her, > 10. Hug her, > 11. Hold her, > 12. Spend money on her, > 13. Wine & dine her, > 14. Buy things for her, > 15. Listen to her, > 16. Care for her, > 17. Stand by her, > 18. Support her, > 19. Go to the ends of the earth for her.... > > Ahhhhh, Come down the Earth, cause thats not reality!!! =() > > HOW TO IMPRESS A MAN: > 1. Show up naked. > 2. Bring beer. >> > > Ok something is wrong here.... Why cant I get a man to show up naked and > bring me a 6 pack of beer??? That would impress me!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 07:16:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24599 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 07:16:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 24587 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 07:16:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.43) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 07:16:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 75770 invoked by uid 0); 16 Apr 1999 07:15:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416071549.75769.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.133 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:15:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.133] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: Everybody's free (the sunscreen song) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:15:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk that song called everybody's free (that sunscreen song) is soooo true. it really makes you think about life and what's it all about. it just came on mtv and reminded me of my mom and all the things that she would always tell me. love one another, because life is too short to hate. "remember the compliments, forget the insults." love lia Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 07:19:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25527 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 07:19:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 25514 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 07:19:04 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 07:19:04 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vWNQa05707 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:18:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: <96e6dfe2.24483e3c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:18:20 EDT Subject: Re: NRR Riddle To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 234 Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If you know the answer then tell me. > Here is a riddle for you . . . > > It's more powerful than God. > It's more evil than the devil. > The poor have it. > The rich need it. > If you eat it you will die. > What is it??? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 07:21:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26683 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 07:21:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 26597 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 07:20:59 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 07:20:58 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca14-109.ix.netcom.com [205.186.215.109]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08217; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3716E49D.20830AC4@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:19:57 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Vonie CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, leslie.ayres@excite.com, Max McCauley Subject: Re: Some constants in life... References: <924107616.22552.554@excite.com> <3715736C.474C7570@geocities.com> <371694B6.C5670138@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Prophecy? Hahaha! Ok Nostradmus (spelling error)... You can put that on the flyer, but you gotta pay me first. $2 a bottle!! Capitalism, baby!! Hey you asked. To ask is to seek denial. Well... I also think that I may not be the only one who has changed their views of the world. OK... I wont quote you anymore, not like those fruitopia commercials that tell everyone to "Feel Good". =Paul*E*Wog Ray Vonie wrote: > > Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > > I am 18 years old. No, i am not a candy raver. I am not even a raver. I > > think the problem with these parties is that there are too many ravers > > there and not enough people. > > You know Paul, that's actually a really good point. People shouldn't be trying > so hard to fit in, that they stick out. The scene is about being yourself, not > becoming someone else. > > > If i want to go see dumb ass retarded kids fucked up on drugs, I will go > > hang out at Cupertino High School during lunchtime and fuck with all the > > tweaks there. > > > > I show up at these events to DANCE!!! It is damn annoying when some kid > > starts touching my gloves without asking. Yes my gloves are cool, and > > they probably feel terrific on e. I don't know this kid. I don't want > > his dirty sweaty hands all over my clothing articles. I am not here to > > meet some dirty candy trash. I am here to see my friends and listen to > > music on a big sound system. Even still, that hardly happens because > > lately the sound systems SUCK!!! They never have enough BASS and my > > friends never show up and I end up finding 3 friends at the party. > > > > Damn tickle!! I should have gone to Audio Impact! > > > > And I am nothing like a e-tarded candy teenager. > > > I may have been once in my life, but eventually reality kicked in an i > > discovered that i can not get though life on hugs and plur alone. > > > > In the words of Vlad... "Keep It Real!" > > Good for you Paul, You've Matured a lot since the first time I met you on this > list. I remember telling you back then that when you get older you will begin to > recognize things differently, and I can tell that the prophecy has unfolded. Im > also very flattered by the quote, but don't make a habit of quoting me... ok. > > > PLUR is not reality, candy is not reality, and e does not make > > everything all right in this world. E is an evil drug that creates a > > perfect utopian vision of the way life should be while it destroys your > > serotonin neurotransmitters. > > Can I quote you on my next flyer... I like this. > > > (Directed to PLURY Punks on e AKA Candy Trash) If you want something > > real... get off your floored ass and dance. You are taking up space and > > if you don't start doing something constructive with it I will walk all > > over you. > > > > John S. Lee talked about taking back the scene. Well, it only takes one > > fed up kid who can't take it anymore to kick some candy bitch and dirty > > tweaker ass and wake up this dazed and confused scene. > > Random candy raver beatings?... nah... but I think it would be hella funny to see > a gang of candy ravers beat down some of those gangster ravers. > > > And I think that you have the right idea, Leslie... TOUGH LOVE. > > I would like to change that slightly though and add a pinch of TOUGH > > PLUR. > > It shouldn't have to be tough. > > Keep it mellow, Vlad > > > > > > > I hate ravers!!!! Bring back the people!!!! > > Candy Ravers aint shit! Die Candy Raver Die! > > > > =Paul*E*Wog > > P.S. I am going to Harmony. I am going to dance. > > > > leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > > > > > paul-e-wog said.. > > > > > > > I don't think someone wants to go to a rave where the average age is 16 > > > > and all these kids should be at home doing their homework, but they are > > > > at a rave, fucked up on e and taking up dancing space because they are > > > > on the floor all e tarded. > > > > > > i'm sorry paul, can you tell us again... are you 17 now? oooohhh.... > > > getting awfully cranky in your old age, aren't you? maybe you even turned > > > 18??? wow!! > > > > > > come on, get real.... and every time you act like you're not one of these > > > kids on this list, i'm going to publicly remind you and everyone else that i > > > have fresh memories of you just this way, the e-tarded candy kid... one of > > > the greatest dangers in life, my young friend, is thinking that you are so > > > very different from other people... and this particular thread of you acting > > > like you're not a teenaged candy kid is pretty ridiculous. > > > > > > just think of it as my personal public service to sfraves... and when you > > > stop, i'll stop. > > > > > > (tough) love, leslie > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 07:23:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28060 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 07:23:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 28052 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 07:23:21 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 07:23:21 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca14-109.ix.netcom.com [205.186.215.109]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA09307; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3716E527.CAF99F84@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:22:15 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: etraver@ix.netcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Being sober..at a rave] References: <3715996A.E75@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't go just for the ecstacy... I go for the sex too! =Paul*E*Wog P.S. Liz is good in bed... and she is having Nick's love child. Elizabeth Traver wrote: > > On the entire topic of drugs I basically feel that it's every persons > private business, if someone chooses to take something(whether it be at > a party or not) then thats their responsability to know and understand > exactly what is going into they're body- > > I know that it's somewhat disgusting(and humerous) to see a young > person(or old) wide eyed cheesy smile on their face and walking around > telling everyone how much they love them. But let these people do > they're thing...Give it time, they'll grow out of it, or build up a > tolerance to a point in which they won't be acting like such a lame ass. > > It also seems that most people that are straight edge are somewhat > hypecritical becuase of the fact that at one point or another they > either did drugs or they had tried a drug(s). I definatly do agree that > the drugs do not make the party and if thats the only reason that your > having a good time then you're going for the worng reasons. > > Thats all I got to say, > PeaceOut and Much Love > Elizabeth > > Geri Dahl wrote: > > > > I am still not clear on what my views are on the whole drug thing. I > > think if a person is going to ingest a hallucinogen, that they > > shouldn't just limit themselves to doing so at a rave party. I think > > that moderation is important, and having some idea of what you'd like > > to get out of the experience is important too. I agree that no one > > should take drugs just because a friend or even someone from the > > medical profession suggests to. Your body is sacred. So is your mind. > > Treat yourself like the god or goddess you are.love,Julie > > > > --- Jessica Webster wrote: > > > THANK YOU for that. > > > > > > I am almost always "sober" at raves, parties, > > > whatnot. I've done E three > > > times in my life - twice when it first became > > > available (1984 or '85) and I > > > was given 2 grams to swallow right thenandthere, and > > > almost died both ti > > > (convulsions, irregular heartbeat, absolutely no > > > control of breathing, > > > autonomic functions seeming like they required > > > concentration, everything > > > visually in an orange & purple shaking grid), and > > > once in '97 at the > > > pleading of some friends. > > > > > > Don't beg your friends to do drugs with you if they > > > tell you they have an > > > aversion - no matter how psychological this aversion > > > - to those particular > > > drugs. It will only provide vast disappointment for > > > yourself and your pal, > > > and will probably also get you puked upon. > > > > > > Anyway: I don't do E. I had my day/week/month/years > > > with acid way back > > > when. THC has an LSD affect on me these days. My > > > doors of perception are > > > plenty wide open. > > > > > > SO - I am usually very clearheaded when I go out. > > > Perhaps I am wide awake, > > > even. This makes me more critical of some events - > > > say alot of F8 or TnJF > > > massives - and probably more appreciative of others. > > > > > > When I make friends, I make them for real, not just > > > for a night or a > > > backrub. When I hear and feel and see the music, > > > it's because the person > > > on the decks is a deity (Jeno! Sage! Christopher > > > Lawrence! Noel! Ethan! > > > etcetcetc!) and not because I have an e-crush on > > > them (M&M!). When I > > > shake my booty it's with clearminded passion, not > > > synthetic delerium. > > > > > > This isn't to detract from synthetic delerium, mind > > > you. > > > > > > Just know that, if you see me dancing when you're > > > performing, I'm tripping > > > on *you*, and that you are what I came to the party > > > for, vs. just using it > > > as a venue for doing my drugs or picking up on > > > folks. > > > > > > Urgh I wanna go play in the sun, > > > > > > Jessica > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 07:33:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3458 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 07:33:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 3448 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 07:33:12 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 07:33:12 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8BEMEAP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:33:03 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:49:31 -0700 Subject: CD Recomendation Message-ID: <19990416.004943.2982.2.Trigometric@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,4-16 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello fellow electron folks. I was listening to some really nice house brought to you courtesy of Digweed. I would highly recommend this to anyobody. Beautiful and uplifting. Title: GLOBAL UNDERGROUND; JOHN DIGWEED -- SYDNEY Yup, it sher is purty. Bye. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 07:46:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8833 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 07:46:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 8825 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 07:46:09 -0000 Received: from ns2.safemail.com (204.89.219.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 07:46:09 -0000 Received: from Charlie.safemail.com (ip39.safemail.com [204.89.219.39]) by ns2.safemail.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA23486; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <02df01be87dd$3e578d80$322417ac@Charlie.safemail.com> From: "Charlie" To: , Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:43:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I stumbled across a website that is dedicated to information like this. The site is... www.ecstacy.org Hope it helps. - Charlie charlie@safemail.com "It is the recognition of others that you truely see the individuality of others." -----Original Message----- From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:41 PM Subject: 5-HTP Questions >okay, so I know the hype about this has died down, but, I'm tired of my 20 >hits of e not working anymore and am willing to try almost anything that may >work, So I have a few q's for anyone that may know! 1- Does it really enhance >E... 2- haow much to you take at a time... 3- how long before dropping e do >you take it... 4- how safe is it 5- anything else anyone may know.... I need >this info by Sat if possible... thanx in advance. - Jenn > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 07:46:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9096 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 07:46:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 8839 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 07:46:11 -0000 Received: from ns2.safemail.com (204.89.219.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 07:46:11 -0000 Received: from Charlie.safemail.com (ip39.safemail.com [204.89.219.39]) by ns2.safemail.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA23489; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <02e001be87dd$3fb68140$322417ac@Charlie.safemail.com> From: "Charlie" To: , Subject: Re: 5HTP & 'e-balls" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:46:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was reading your post and you just read what was going through my mind. Instead of it being an Alice in Wonderland door though, I see substance use as showing you what is through the door. The way you act, the way you think and the way you behave changes into a loose state. (I see) as when day / time you can act or feel the same way without being on something as you do when you are on it is when you can go though the door yourself without help. I personally see that as the accomplishment others here are talking about. Getting the natural high without all the funny morning side-effects / icky feelings. Some are still looking for it, some don't wan't to know it, and some don't care. Oh well, there's my 2 cents from Texas. Have fun at Harmony for me. I'll be around for 'Hi'!. in weeks to come. - Peace, Love, Cowfish! Charlie charlie@safemail.com -----Original Message----- From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 11:06 AM Subject: re: 5HTP & 'e-balls" >Once again, I am AMAZED at the people who post about personal illegal >activities to this list.... please get a clue... posting about your use of >substances doesn't make you brave or cool, it makes you extremely >vulnerable, and dare we say, perhaps stupid. > >(and word to the poster who warned about using corporate accounts... i have >had my email use monitored by an employer in the past... that's the reason i >use a web-based email for all personal stuff) > >now... as an answer to the "what can someone take to make their e work more >effectively after building a tolerance" .... i'd like to suggest that >sometimes our bodies are telling us things... > >when you develop a tolerance for something, you can either increase your >dosage or take another substance to try and counter the negative effects of >the first (ever hear of the valley of the dolls -- about people who come to >rely on uppers in the morning, downers to sleep, an endless and >ever-building cycle) ... or you can listen to your body.... cuz it may be >telling you that this particular thing doesn't work for you any more. > >it is my experience that many people hit that moment where they have reached >a "saturation" point, a time where they say "hey this isn't as fun as it >once was" ... and i suggest that's your wonderful opportunity to say "thank >you" to the substance that gave you such enjoyable and life-changing >experiences (hopefully) ... and move on. > >just think, you can save all that money, be kind to your body, feel great on >monday AND tuesday.... > >it seems a little sad, but some experiences are only meant to last a short >time in our lives... you can't recreate them, you can't hold on to them... > >i describe certain substance experiences as "walking through a door" .... >they show you, like Alice in Wonderland, a door that you never knew was >there.... and you go through it and are amazed and changed because you can >see the world in a whole new way... > >but there's no going back... you've gone through the door, you've had the >experience, and you can never go through it again. you can certainly enjoy >being in that new place but sooner or later you move on from that too.... > >so, when it stops being fun, or stops working.... whatever it is in your >life (relationships, jobs, hobbies, whatever) .. you can always... stop... >and start looking for the next "door" in your life. > >maybe that's the key to some of the sober vs. non-sober discussions here... >some people are just experience the excitement of finding a "door" and some >people have moved on through another portal... > >all in a life's journey. > >see you all saturday at harmony! for those who haven't met me, please come >introduce yourself! i'm easy to spot, cuz i'm really really old ;^) ... >chubby, curly high pigtails, and i'll be wearing a big flower crown... >tattoos on shoulders, lots of silver bracelets.... maybe i'll be working the >line outside ... it's gonna be fun! > >love, leslie > > > > >Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 08:23:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18625 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 08:23:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 18616 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 08:23:18 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 08:23:18 -0000 Received: from WOO1121@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 7LYJa16066; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:21:59 -0400 (EDT) From: WOO1121@aol.com Message-ID: <5c28f4d8.24484d25@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:21:57 EDT Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions To: goodvibe@geocities.com, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu CC: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WOO1121@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Uhhhh, you told me a few months ago that you take like 500 mg of 5-HTP after parties. Maybe you were just...LYING TO ME!!!!! Rafie ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 08:33:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21454 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 08:33:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 21444 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 08:33:52 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 08:33:52 -0000 Received: from WOO1121@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iAHCa12138; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:32:52 -0400 (EDT) From: WOO1121@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:32:50 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Everybody's free (the sunscreen song) To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WOO1121@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have to object to the line about not doing to much to your hair! Mine is still here :) Anyway fashion wigs are making a comeback Amanda Kung Pow* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 08:38:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23744 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 08:38:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23734 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 08:38:06 -0000 Received: from ns2.safemail.com (204.89.219.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 08:38:06 -0000 Received: from Charlie.safemail.com (ip57.safemail.com [204.89.219.57]) by ns2.safemail.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA23868; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000301be87e4$812daca0$322417ac@Charlie.safemail.com> From: "Charlie" To: , Subject: Re: NRR Riddle Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:29:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The Answer is Nothing. Think 'bout it. Peace, Love, Cowfish! - Charlie charlie@safemail.com "Eagles may soar, but weasels aren't sucked into Jet Engines" -----Original Message----- From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 12:41 AM Subject: Re: NRR Riddle >If you know the answer then tell me. > > > > > >> Here is a riddle for you . . . >> >> It's more powerful than God. >> It's more evil than the devil. >> The poor have it. >> The rich need it. >> If you eat it you will die. >> What is it??? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 09:44:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1265 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 09:44:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 1256 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 09:44:24 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 09:44:24 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vVQEa12138 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 05:43:43 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 05:43:41 EDT Subject: ride needed to harmony (possibly) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BBoiBreks@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, seeing as how gas prices have skyrocketed, I have decided to abandon myself from driving 'the bitchmobile" as it were. This is tentative because I don't know who I will be going with...I mean with whom I'm going.....er....yeah....If anyone is coming from the North Bay, I would appreciate a ride and I will be happy to give you gas money. I live in San Rafael. I promise to abstain from any form of sarcasm, sexual harrassment, or anything that would make me seem like me. Hell, I'll just shut up, but I'll smile and giggle once in a while and agree with everything that the driver has to say. Fair deal? Please email me back, or no...my ghetto brothers nevr give me messages...umm...yeah, just email me back brokeassmuthafukaw/oaride Son From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 10:15:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14206 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 10:15:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 14196 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 10:15:16 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 10:15:16 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-27.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.27]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA03421; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990416084807.006e486c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:48:07 -0500 To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com From: Nuku Subject: Re: NRR Riddle Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Didn't we have this riddle a month ago... The answer is NOTHING. At 03:18 AM 4/16/99 EDT, you wrote: >If you know the answer then tell me. > > > > > >> Here is a riddle for you . . . >> >> It's more powerful than God. >> It's more evil than the devil. >> The poor have it. >> The rich need it. >> If you eat it you will die. >> What is it??? > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 11:22:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28087 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 11:22:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 28079 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 11:22:09 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 11:22:09 -0000 Received: from tigger (dynamic45.pm02.sf3d.best.com [209.24.234.109]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id EAA20680 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990416042324.0088ac00@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:23:24 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: Thank u Faith dj's Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tonight's djs Blackstone, Tracer, Ruben Mancias and Jay-R took us to a different level! thank u boys! your Faith family loves u. Have a little **FAITH** Mike Galetto Faith Family http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 12:45:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17236 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 12:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 17221 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 12:45:06 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 12:45:06 -0000 Received: from Oct1faith@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vFDVa24961 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:44:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Oct1faith@aol.com Message-ID: <2ba5c519.24488a92@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:44:02 EDT Subject: Tracer rock Faith... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: Oct1faith@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to Mike Tracer it is allways nice when surprise guess come in an Rock it And thanks to the crew of poeple that showed up form the sfr list. I finally met fineboy. We call it even since my friend don't like the Titanic song an his don't like Cher.....the fag house wars is over. an where did all those Sac people come from ....=) My residents Ruben an Jay-R held there ground which made for a great nite for those of you who miss last nite don't worry Tracer will be back along with other in the next few weeks.The return of DRC,Ellen Feratto an Garth. John Howard, Doc Martin, Sneak just to name a few. thanks, Blackstone From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 12:58:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22326 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 12:58:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 22310 invoked by uid 233); 16 Apr 1999 12:58:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 11323 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 10:12:20 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 10:12:20 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-27.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.27]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA03351 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990416084513.006eb840@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:45:13 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: [NRR] I know magic Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not to be bitchy , but it's a matter of respect and it's a matter of easily sorting through mail without reading the subject line.. It's a matter of it's in the rules of the Jiggy ma bob that you get when you subscribe..It's a matter of NRR helps me list what email is priority for me to read. I wish..you would just..go sit in your flame chair cuz you need to get burnt for such a foolish ignorant type reply. O and this last remark is me trying to not be a jerk..:) The ever -so-sweet-and-cuddly, Nuku >At 01:59 AM 4/16/99 EDT, you wrote: >>not to be bitchy but, why does it bother u so much if it doesnt say >>NRR??...dont tell me u didnt know that this was rave related..jesus look at >>the subject line..*I know Magic* obviously man, u must have known..hey im not >>trying be a jerk, maybe u might have some big reason to see NRR >>*no flames* >>dean* >> >><< Not to be bitchy or anything but can we use please use NRR on post like >>this >> and the david magician thing....Of if you don't wanna do that then you can >> always send it private :) >> >> Nuku >> >> >> >> >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 15:34:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24401 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 15:34:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 24194 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 15:33:45 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 15:33:45 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id oUDYa03719; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:30:53 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <293a800.2448b1ab@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:30:51 EDT Subject: Re: CD Recomendation To: trigometric@juno.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i like the second cd better, more trancy tracks!!! like #6-9 are pretty dope!!!! but yeah i second the recommendation! love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/16/99 12:33:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, trigometric@juno.com writes: << Hello fellow electron folks. I was listening to some really nice house brought to you courtesy of Digweed. I would highly recommend this to anyobody. Beautiful and uplifting. Title: GLOBAL UNDERGROUND; JOHN DIGWEED -- SYDNEY Yup, it sher is purty. Bye. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 15:40:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26199 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 15:40:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 26186 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 15:40:05 -0000 Received: from web218.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 15:40:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416153827.4924.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.100.191.117] by web218.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:38:27 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:38:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Great parties this weekend :) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow, I am hella jealous you guys, I cant go to any parties this weekend and there are gonna be some good ones, like Harmony's and Epiphany's parties, two great crews who throw some awesome shin-digs. What a great way to usher in spring. You guys have fun, damnit. Steve =) === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 16:01:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4418 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 16:01:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 4380 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 16:01:40 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 16:01:40 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vWSRa26022 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:00:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <7d1273d.2448b894@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:00:20 EDT Subject: Re: CD Recomendation To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just a little info. Everyone knows Digweed will be at 1015 in two weeks. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 16:09:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7035 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 16:09:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 7014 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 16:09:31 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 16:09:31 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA19365; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA19705; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:02:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:02:06 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: Tabitha Hanrion cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: BSP-Epiphany*DAYbreaks*SaturDAY In-Reply-To: <19990415204216.1093.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk woooohoooo! i get breaks all day long, i get breaks all day long! and i was just thinking last night as i was driving in my car "why haven't we had any good breakbeat parties lately?" and presto! my wish came true. i'll see you all there! much love, amber > > >>>>>>> THIS SATURDAY, April 17th! > >>>>>>> Epiphany presents DayBreaks! > >>>>>>> ALL DAY -- ALL BREAKS!!! > Beats begin at -> NOON SHARP <- > > Prime, outdoor, virgin, beautiful, permitted location in San > Francisco! This is a donation-based *DAYTIME* event to benefit > the Red Cross. DayBreaks is sponsored by KZSU radio. > > The PHATTEST lineup: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jason (Epiphany) [jungle)] > ReAch (Static/A*R*M) [hip hop] > Siphon & Hak (Urban Assault) [jungle] > Science & AndyW (Viberation/Harmony) [electrodowntempo] > Jungle Life Crew (SF) [jungle scratch-a-thon] > Uncle Noah (Abduction Productions/LA) [breakbeat] > Jahsh (Harmony) [downtempo] > > With your mackadacious host, MC Duh! > > > > Call the voicemail starting on FRIDAY night for exact location & info: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 415/289-2100 ext.118 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > Come party with us before the Harmony springtime! > > * Please, absolutely no alcohol! > * Barefoot dancing, too -- the ground will be nice and dry! > * Please bring something to share on our Solar Altar. > > > > Sunshine, > Epiphany > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 16:24:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13732 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 16:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13670 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 16:24:26 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 16:24:26 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA19009; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA20634; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:13:44 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR Riddle In-Reply-To: <96e6dfe2.24483e3c@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ahhh, this is the riddle i posted to the list a while ago. the answer is nothing nothing is greater than god nothing is more eveil than the devil the poor have nothing the rich need nothing and if you eat nothing you will die i thought it was interesting because children have a much easier time solving the riddle because they don't use logic to find the answer. if you look at each line seperatly you should be able to come up with the answer fairly quickly. much love, amber On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 Laalkuchaa@aol.com wrote: > > If you know the answer then tell me. > > > > > > > Here is a riddle for you . . . > > > > It's more powerful than God. > > It's more evil than the devil. > > The poor have it. > > The rich need it. > > If you eat it you will die. > > What is it??? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 16:47:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22513 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 16:47:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 22478 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 16:47:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 16:47:03 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 295 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:44:54 -0700 Message-ID: <37176CAF.1F6EC841@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:00:32 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Mixtape Reviews - Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, its mixtape review time! For this installment Ill be reviewing 3 tapes, one is a tape by jamie thinnes that I picked up at Daddys, the other two are demos that were given to me by Marty, and Jimmy respectively. First off - Jammie Thinnes - earthtone recordings Excellent tape, rather mellow, great lazy sunny afternoon type set. Its pretty much a deep tribal tape, that rises into some new york deep house here and there. The mixing is impecable, clean, well orchestrated, EXELLENT. This guy has major talent. PICK THIS TAPE UP. Jimmy - ? This is a tape from Jimmy, an SF dj who is definitly on the rise, we had this guy at one of the Bolinas parties last year and he tore it up. Excellent well rounded tape, varying shades of tribal, funk, and straight up house. Hes got some super huge classics on here that I just have to hear over and over again. Mixing is a little loose, but hes got good orchestration. Overall a great tape, ask him for a copy when you see him playin out. Marty - Deep Affection GREAT tape from Marty, another SF dj on the rise. Really funky and twisted....theres a heavy Jeno influence here thats obvious. Great track selection and orchestration. Big deep progessive funkin fer yer bones. Ive been listening to this thing all morning...fuckin sick. Bug him for a copy...its dope. Anyways, thats enuff for this week. Everyone have a great weekend, maybe Ill see some of you at Consious Sessions or the Sunset boat party. peace, john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 16:57:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26216 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 16:57:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 26205 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 16:57:07 -0000 Received: from central.cnet.com (204.162.81.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 16:57:07 -0000 Received: from uyenppc.cnet.com (24.9.10.10.nat.cnet.com [10.10.9.24]) by central.cnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA21051 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990416095557.008082f0@central.cnet.com> X-Sender: uyenp@central.cnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:55:57 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Uyen Phan Subject: Chemical Brothers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There's a little snippet of the next Chemical Brothers single on this page: http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/19990316165311news.html And apparently, they're supposed to play the Warfield on July 26 or so. ta, U From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 17:21:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4998 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 17:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 4989 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 17:21:49 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 17:21:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416171955.3546.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.200.140] by web4; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:19:55 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:19:55 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: What a Saterday! (BSP) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I feel like I'm in the Roller Skating Song... Daybreaks: Lots of diverse talanted dj's playing in a beautiful location. Andy and I are on at 3. Beware agents of the Parede Verde lurking in the trees. Harmony: Check it out-> This is going to be like...A PARTY. Lots of decorations, LIVE ACTS in the jungle and downtempo rooms, Out of town dj's... Max and I are on at midnight. Be sure to dress up! See you there:) -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 17:33:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9104 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 17:33:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 9075 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 17:33:03 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 17:33:03 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA53461 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:32:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from JUNGurlE@aol.com) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vDHHa16067 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:30:51 EDT Subject: NRR: Smokefree---finally To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As of today I am smoke free! Okay so after 11 years of smoking I am sure the damage is done but at least I won't be adding to that damage anymore! Have a great day! <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 17:48:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14173 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 17:48:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 14143 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 17:48:13 -0000 Received: from cubbie-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO cubbie.excite.com) (198.3.99.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 17:48:13 -0000 Received: from ringo.excite.com ([199.172.152.145]) by cubbie.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990416174743.MZRH15243.cubbie@ringo.excite.com>; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:47:43 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: "Paul*E*Wog" , "Ray Vonie" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, leslie.ayres@excite.com, "Max McCauley" Subject: Re: Some constants in life... Message-Id: <924284864.15458.178@excite.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:47:44 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok... so the summary is.... paul is not a candy raver, though he apparently plays one at parties. or at least he has for the last 3 years, since his early teenage years. and at harmony, he's going to be dancing. this will delight me to no end, since lately when i see paul he's walking or standing around. maybe we just haven't crossed paths on the dance floor. and max --and i'm sure others who have not crossed paths with paul at cupertino high school during recess or whatever -- would love to actually meet paul in person. i highly recommend this. in fact, i am offering to be the paul hayden introduction service tomorrow night at harmony.... please find me (if you don't know me, i'm easy to spot... i'm older, chubby, have lots of silver bracelets and tattoos on both shoulders, and i'll be wearing a flower crown and orange checked shirt with bright flower pants).... and i will personally try to introduce as many people as possible to paul. (paul, can you make sure to wear something that *really* stands out... now that those other kids have taken up your candy rave style, we need something truly notable.. probably that big foam "e" you made as a necklace once won't be as distinctive as it once was, huh) and since he has promised he'll be spending his time dancing (did i get that right paul? you'll be dancing? really?), then that should make it easier too. harmony was already going to be awesome... this will make it even better! love, leslie p.s. i'll probably be out working the line when it's early and crazy.... so folks please make sure you have presales or if not, show up bright and early, ok? it breaks my heart when i have to tell people the party's sold out, and capacity on this is strictly limited! your kind cooperation is much appreciated! Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 17:49:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14988 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 17:49:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 14931 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 17:49:48 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 17:49:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416174638.3065.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web135.yahoomail.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:46:38 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:46:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk We were just being concerned for ya kiddo. ;) *HUGZ* pat --- KaNdeEKlD@aol.com wrote: <<>> > okay okay... enough already... >... please don't jump to conclusions about me just > because i ask a drug > related question... much love and respect - Jenn > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 17:52:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16212 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 17:52:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 15700 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 17:51:35 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 17:51:35 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vCOWa26487 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:47:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <4dabe172.2448d1a7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:47:19 EDT Subject: Eklektic review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Markis1012@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk LAst night was a blast , What else can i say!! SAGE & Siren are the shit. Very intense music. Thank you so much for making my first eklektic party one to remember. I would like to say whats up to Jenna (you have so much energy) and to Catrina. I hope yo uhad fun too (isn't Sage HELLA pretty). I hope i see some of you guys on the list at duphonic or at some other party, JUNGLE RULES THE GLOBE!!!!!!!! Later Markis (junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 18:28:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1464 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 18:28:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1441 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 18:28:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx.etrade.com) (204.5.38.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 18:28:50 -0000 Received: from bayarea.net (pc0358.etrade.com [204.163.200.188]) by mx.etrade.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07541; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37177DC7.93159A4F@bayarea.net> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:13:27 -0700 From: Jim Maze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LuSh SnOOpiE CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Everybody's free (the sunscreen song) References: <19990416071549.75769.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Did you know that this song actually started out as a newspaper column. A Chicago Sun Times (I think that's the right paper) columnist was struggling for something to write one day. She was taking her lunch break, and saw some girl standing with her face to the sun. She thought to herself "I sure hope that girl is wearing sunscreen". Anyways, she then realized that it was approaching graduation time (1998) for the local high schools, and wrote the column as "Advice to the Class of 1998". Kinda funny how these things get started! LuSh SnOOpiE wrote: > > that song called everybody's free (that sunscreen song) is soooo > true. it really makes you think about life and what's it all about. > it just came on mtv and reminded me of my mom and all the things that > she would always tell me. > > love one another, because life is too short to hate. "remember the > compliments, forget the insults." > > love lia > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 18:34:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3837 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 18:34:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1168 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 18:27:58 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 18:27:58 -0000 Received: from WWoodliff@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vRGCa25026 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: WWoodliff@aol.com Message-ID: <5aab92ca.2448da15@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:23:17 EDT Subject: RE: Whats a Rewind; How do i become a DJ.......... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: WWoodliff@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk O.K. so here is my two cents and if it pisses you off oh-well. In my opinion and again this is only my opinion a lot of what is tearing the seen down from the inside is the easy uncontrolled access to questions such as these. I know this sounds simple at first but hear me out. Nobody has to try any more. There is no need to put any effort into finding out information on what you are interested in. "Back in the day" if you wanted an answer to a question like that you went out and emersed yourself in the culture. You took the time, because it was important to you, to actually learn about it first hand. You sure as hell didn't just sit on your ass in front of some monitor and throw out questions like these. If you have questions, that is wonderful, go out and learn about it first hand. The people who ask these questions obviously don't really give a shit or else they would be out there living it. What ever happened to D. I. Y. That is as much a part of the scene as PLUR or any of the other now commercially exploited terms that are associated with the culture. Just a few weeks ago people were all in an uproar about a "NO TRAINSPOTTING ZONE". That should go unsaid at every party. Who the hell do these people think they are standing in front of the turntables trying to get a look at this record that some other DJ is spinning. That record that he spent hours or even days listening to record after record to find, you are now going to just put it in your little note book and then go order it from your local record store. That's bullshit, have some originality and some creativity have some devotion to what you believe in. I see all of these post about "How do I become a DJ." You get out there and work your ass off. Just like anything else. You don't sit on the Internet and ask questions. Up until just about 4 or 5 years ago you had to search for days just to find turntables. Now you are basically tripping over them every time you walk into a music store along with all the how to be a DJ videos. If you wanted to go to a party you pretty much had to know someone, now the promoters are flyering all the local high schools. What kills the vibe at parties are all the people who don't have a clue as to what it is all about and more over don't care what it is all about. They didn't put out any effort to get there so why should they. They weren't brought there by any one who might be able to teach them because they picked up a flyer at Ameba on Telegraph while they were in there to buy the latest Spice Girls CD. Believe it or not our beloved culture has become a trend and as long as it is that accessible to the public we will keep getting more and more people who show up just because it is there. I know a lot of people are going to think I am attacking them personaly and I am not. I don't know you so how could I (accept for all the trainspotters and the promoters who flyer high schools, you suck, and please do take it personally). If you picked up your first flyer at Ameba and now you have grown to love and care about the scene then this is not directed toward you but please realize that you are the acceptation. And don't think that I have a problem with the scene getting to big and not being like it was way back when. Things change, a global dance culture is a beautiful thing to think about but we can't try and get there overnight. If we change to fast the original intention is lost and the ideals are no longer intact. Take time to find out about the culture you are now trying to be apart of. It's so much more then being a Candy Raver or Old School. If you got this far thanks for taking the time Much Love JonPaul. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 18:40:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5846 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 18:40:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 5770 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 18:39:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 18:39:52 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 271; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:37:44 -0700 Message-ID: <37178720.46476A30@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:53:20 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JUNGurlE@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Smokefree---finally References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk RIGHT ON!!! I quit 3 weeks ago after smoking for 8 years. Its sooo awesome to have all this energy again! I can dance so much longer without getting tired, and I feel way better after going out, now that I dont have a lungfull of crap when I leave a party. john r JUNGurlE@aol.com wrote: > As of today I am smoke free! Okay so after 11 years of smoking I am sure the > damage is done but at least I won't be adding to that damage anymore! > > Have a great day! <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 18:49:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8883 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 18:49:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 8842 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 18:49:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo16.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 18:49:19 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iOHVa27249; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:37:21 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Everybody's free (the sunscreen song) To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it really doesnt make sence to me..becuase its not really a song...there is some little thing going on in the back but not like music..just some guy talkin..its cool what he says, but it is NOT a song in my book...ok like anyone cared, but like i care! << that song called everybody's free (that sunscreen song) is soooo true. it really makes you think about life and what's it all about. it just came on mtv and reminded me of my mom and all the things that she would always tell me. love one another, because life is too short to hate. "remember the compliments, forget the insults." love lia >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 19:11:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17671 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 19:11:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 17639 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 19:11:18 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 19:11:18 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vIOGa05707; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:45:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:45:51 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Smokefree---finally To: JUNGurlE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's so great.. im so glad u quit smoking... now if only i could stop smoking cloves.. this isn't helping my strep throat... got any suggestions???? MUAH valerie AKA sparkles ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 19:14:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19086 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 19:14:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 19059 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 19:13:59 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 19:13:59 -0000 Received: from HiSKiD76@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vIZUa07983 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: HiSKiD76@aol.com Message-ID: <88e2b27c.2448e5b0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:12:48 EDT Subject: ? about new moon 4/16 and 66 MHZ To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: HiSKiD76@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk does anyone have info on tonites partie new moon by conscious sessions? i got the VM number but anyone know anything about tix? also anyone know if 66 MHZ is sold out yet.....i tried calling T n J but the number is disconnected???????????? thanks ceL From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 19:18:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20517 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 19:18:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 20504 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 19:18:48 -0000 Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 19:18:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416191847.1750.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.100.191.190] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:18:47 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: 1015 closed? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just heard that 1015 got shut down. I would have figured that it would have been all over the list if this had happened, so i am not putting stock into this until I hear more to substantiate it. Anybody know anything? Steve =/ === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 19:24:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23540 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 19:24:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 23511 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 19:24:45 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 19:24:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416192856.21933.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:28:56 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: NRR: Smokefree---finally To: JUNGurlE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > I am sure the > damage is done but at least I won't be adding to > that damage anymore! Yippeeeeee, you just made me so happy! The damage is not already done, it is over, you should be very proud of yourself sweetee! The single best thing you can do for your health is to quit smoking, youve done it! You have to be the coolest person on this list right now. I wish I could convince my family and friends to do the same. Ok, so one down, how many millions to go? Jb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 19:32:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27139 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 19:32:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 27130 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 19:32:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.34) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 19:32:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 53602 invoked by uid 0); 16 Apr 1999 19:31:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416193159.53601.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:31:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: CanContrl@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Everybody's free (the sunscreen song) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:31:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >it really doesnt make sence to me..becuase its not really a song...there is >some little thing going on in the back but not like music..just some guy >talkin..its cool what he says, but it is NOT a song in my book...ok like >anyone cared, but like i care! i can understand how you may not consider it a song. i hesitate to call it a song myself, but what else is there to call it? what? just some dude talking with some beats in the background? that's just too long to say when talking about it. duh! plus, there are other songs where people aren't really singing. i mean, rap's kinda like that. there are some rap songs that is just talking. well then, what do we consider those? they're songs, right? besides, the song has a really good message. love lia Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 19:43:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1539 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 19:43:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 1511 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 19:43:00 -0000 Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (mdowling@206.184.139.137) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 19:43:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (mdowling@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id MAA14612 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:42:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: mdowling owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:42:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dowling X-Sender: mdowling@shell6.ba.best.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: Employers reading employee's email... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thought this article would be of interest, considering the recent thread about such an act: http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/19152.html Electronic surveillance of employee communications has become pretty commonplace at major US companies, a study released Wednesday concludes. Forty-five percent of large firms said that they monitor employee email, phone calls, and computer files, according to the American Management Association survey. The number of companies that practice some form of surveillance has risen about 10 percent in the past two years. The main reason for the increase, researchers said, is that tracking workers keeps getting cheaper and easier. "Companies are doing this very much because the technologies allow them to do this," said Eric Greenberg, AMA's director of management studies. A decade ago, keeping copies of written messages would have been a Herculean effort. Now that most office communications are stored on servers, messages can be stored and searched with minimal effort. Monitoring of employee email topped the list of popular electronic surveillance techniques. Twenty-seven percent of companies surveyed said that they store and review messages -- up from 15 percent in 1997. Companies are more likely to track employee email because they're afraid of being held liable for what's said in the messages, researchers said. "The Microsoft antitrust case has shown how email creates an electronic paper trail that can be used by both sides in a legal dispute, so keeping those messages has proven valuable," Greenberg said. Aside from email, the only other area of electronic monitoring that showed much of an increase was surveillance of computer files. The level of video surveillance and phone-call monitoring stayed about the same. The results made sense, Greenberg said, since searching email is a lot easier than slogging through phone records or videotapes. However, he worried that employees weren't always aware that their email is subject to company surveillance. Employment lawyers also see problems with companies failing to disclose their privacy policies to employees. Although the federal government doesn't require companies to tell when they're monitoring office calls and email, some states have stricter privacy laws, said Mark Jacoby, an employment lawyer with Weil Gotshal & Manges. He said any company that monitors email should make employees aware of the practice. "The problem of monitoring email is one of perhaps a privacy expectation," Jacoby said. Legally speaking, an employer has as much right to read email as it does to open a letter addressed to the company, Jacoby said. But because email accounts are protected by passwords and used for personal messages, employees often have the false impression that their exchanges are private. The AMA says that most companies tell employees about their surveillance policy. But a lot still don't. According to the survey, 84 percent of the firms that read employee email or listen in on phone calls disclose privacy policies to workers. ______________________________________ michael d. dowling mdowling@essential.net 415 239 2424 home 888 434 9132 pager "We've built houses for hatred, It's time we made a place Where people's souls may be seen and be safe. Be careful with each other, these fragile flames For innocence can't be lost it just needs to be maintained...." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 20:13:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9532 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 20:13:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 9346 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 20:13:15 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 20:13:15 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c1 (mmf10.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.80]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08606; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904162013.NAA08606@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:15:36 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, when a post begins with "my 20 hits of e don't work for me anymore" it's kinda hard to ignore..I think it would be fucked up to just have a "oh, crazy kids these days" mentality about something like that. Rafie On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:13:30 EDT, KaNdeEKlD@aol.com wrote... >okay okay... enough already... I do not take drugs that often... yes I know >that u can have LOTS of fun without them... I usually go to parties sober, >like 4 out of every 5 parties I go to r sober parties... I'm not some dumb >drug fiend or anything, I was simply asking about 5-HTP, that's it, my >friend >heard some shit, bought some and wanted me to try it with him on Sat, I was >just inquiring if the e-mails I read or the shit he heard had any truth in >it... please don't jump to conclusions about me just because i ask a drug >related question... much love and respect - Jenn > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 20:30:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29807 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 20:30:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29797 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 20:30:34 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 20:30:34 -0000 Received: from tigger (dynamic51.pm12.sf3d.best.com [209.24.239.243]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id NAA02894 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990416133103.007ea770@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com> X-Sender: broo51-mike@pplus.shell16.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:31:03 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Mike Galetto Subject: Re: NRR: Everybody's free (the sunscreen song) In-Reply-To: <19990416193159.53601.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >plus, there are other songs where people aren't really singing. i >mean, rap's kinda like that. there are some rap songs that is just >talking. well then, what do we consider those? they're songs, right? very good point. take a look at sunshine on the current dubtribe album.... there's plenty of spots where all melodic sounds stop while he continues with only his intense harsh voice speaking of his beliefs.... but i never considered that it ceased bein a song at that point. i agree with ya =) Have a little **FAITH** Mike Galetto Faith Family http://www.blackstone-productions.com/faith/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 21:06:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27174 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 21:06:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 27165 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 21:05:59 -0000 Received: from smtp.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 21:05:59 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:58:35 -0700 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:53:42 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24E7@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: "'steve@warmth.org'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: 1015 closed? Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:53:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE884B.359B5690" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE884B.359B5690 Content-Type: text/plain has anyone heard about 1015 closing.. -----Original Message----- From: Creamy Goodness [SMTP:colostamy@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 12:19 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 1015 closed? I just heard that 1015 got shut down. I would have figured that it would have been all over the list if this had happened, so i am not putting stock into this until I hear more to substantiate it. Anybody know anything? Steve =/ === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE884B.359B5690 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: 1015 closed?

has anyone heard = about 1015 closing..

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Creamy Goodness = [SMTP:colostamy@yahoo.com]
    Sent:   Friday, April 16, 1999 12:19 PM
    To:     sfraves@hyperreal.org
    Subject:       = 1015 closed?

    I just heard that 1015 got shut = down.  I would have
    figured that it would have been all = over the list if
    this had happened, so i am not = putting stock into this
    until I hear more to substantiate = it.

    Anybody know anything?

    Steve =3D/

    =3D=3D=3D
    "Stupid people just puzzle = me."
             &nb= sp;          Vitaly = Golomb

    "What we have here is failure to = communicate."
             &nb= sp;          The warden in = Cool Hand Luke

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE884B.359B5690-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 21:10:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 874 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 21:10:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 836 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 21:10:48 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 21:10:48 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.182]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-48930U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA418 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:19:06 -0700 Message-ID: <012c01be884d$7ca4ff80$b60318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: References: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24E7@smtp.northpointcom.com> Subject: locating Boy George trance song "Time" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:09:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0129_01BE8812.CFD0A960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01BE8812.CFD0A960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: 1015 closed?Hi, I been trying to find the boy george trance song...I believe the song = goes like this..."...and in time we could be so much more...and time is = so precious to me..." BTW who's going to Harmony let's hookup...Im from the san jose = area...does anyone know where its gonna be at yet?? Homebase??? Thanks, Nick ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01BE8812.CFD0A960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: 1015 closed?
Hi,
 
I been trying to find the boy george = trance=20 song...I believe the song goes like this..."...and in time we could be = so much=20 more...and time is so precious to me..."
 
BTW who's going to Harmony let's = hookup...Im=20 from the san jose area...does anyone know where its gonna be at yet??=20 Homebase???
Thanks,
 
Nick
------=_NextPart_000_0129_01BE8812.CFD0A960-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 21:25:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9719 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 21:25:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 9692 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 21:25:42 -0000 Received: from web301.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 21:25:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416212746.21992.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.7.40] by web301.yahoomail.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:27:46 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: symbols, substance , PLUR & SLURP + bigup to 66mhz To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk We have had a lively,insightful & (mostly) intelligent offlist dialog on the subject of PLUR & the Philosophy behind it over the past few days & some of the conclusions will probably be of interest to the list as a whole so here they are: There is a very valid general concern that the philosophy of PLUR is being degraded by empty sloganeering ... I am reminded of the old ZEN truism that the word is NOT the thing it describes - only a symbol - and symbols & slogans can be stripped of their meaning very easily (EG: ever worked in an office with a THINK poster on the wall?)... endlessly repeating PLUR accomplishes very little ... Living by (& working for ) the underlying philosophy is what shows results ... and those results do have a real world impact ... Slogans are dispensable, principles are not. ... The reason I brought up the dark anecdote about the Brooklyn UG party was to show that cynicism about slogans can often be misinterpreted as a refutation of the underlying ethics - attracting those opposed to the philosophy itself - and from there things can spin out of control very quickly - When HipHop first emerged from the underground the first generation was all about unity - reacting to the divisiveness of '70s NY gang wars.One of Bambaataa's eary sayings was `Put down your gun & pick up a mic!'- 2 decades of cynical marketing later the artists may be making big bank but the scene is thoroughly divided & conquered.(That is a whole other potential thread!) One of the things I like best about working events in England is that over there people talk about the philosophy less & live it more, And that is what (it seems to me) the 66mhz crew were getting at ... Their hearts seem to be in the right place (Anyone on the scene who puts extra effort into visuals & production is OK by me!)and a rash statement does not negate all the effort they put into their parties ... I just think we just need to check ourselves so we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater! One person said that it is `about the music not the vibe' but to me the music is just a means of communicating ideas & vibes. I do not think that following the scene for pleasure & music alone is a bad thing (Remember, I used to do visuals & occasionally spin at Studio 54, so I would be a hypocrite if I denied that simple hedonism has some value!)but with the rave scene there is something deeper going on, People are being transformed into better versions of themselves by the music, vibe, community etc and those that participate are worthy of a deeper respect & trust. We can go beyond Shallow pleasure to Deep Joy. PLUR is not the sum total of my (or anyone intelligent's) philosophy. Truth & justice are obviously prerequisites for peace & love and I am supporting the ethics not the word . The underlying concept of PLUR was key in the success of the civil rights movement of the sixties -25 years before anyone coined the phrase! If not for the commitment to principles by the activists of that time we would not be debating about the likes of Aetheistjohn (The `Whites only' `Raver') - we would be living his dream! Maybe to keep it fresh & stay ahead of Mainstream TShirt Manufacturers we need to take a lesson from cockney rhyming slang and constantly be coming up with new acronyms to express our Ideas - EG: Add something beginning in S (symbiosis, Synergy) rearrange the letters and viola! you have S.L.U.R.P.! If we kept changing them often enough we can use them as `Secret Passwords' That should keep everyone from Paul*E*Wog to DJ PolyWog happy! On a more serious note the individual who repeatedly referred to me as a PLUR NAZI gets an award for the ultimate oxymoronic phrase - Nazism is the result of a social environment where the principles of PLUR have no voice (Ask some of my Aging European relatives), But if you were thinking I was trying to enforce Enlightenment , That is not my goal, We all evolve at our own rate, and at the end of the day some fish crawl out of the sea & some don't.But we are all worthy of respect. I have never been one go around at parties preaching or sloganeering - I go to dance, Play my art (Sound or visual) & connect with others ... BUT in my life I express the principles of PLUR by doing regular Volunteer work, Playing tons of Benefits and working hard and occasionally risking my life for what I believe in. Just letting it flow dosn't cut it, outside the trust & relative safe zone of our scene it ain't a game it's a war ... It is your actions not your words that count... So I am defending the ethical foundation that makes our scene so special (& distinct from previous dance movements) not some passing slogan ... Have a SLURPy Weekend everybody! Keep the Faith! Stefan R.espect A.spiration V.ision E.volution ON! P.S. a lot of people on the scene in London in particular have taken to usuing the word RAVE as an insult (ie: the beats were phat but I didn't care for the Ravey synth noodlings )... The Wheel of Life keeps turning .... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 21:53:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29314 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 21:53:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 29302 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 21:53:32 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 21:53:32 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA25777 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:52:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from unknown(207.92.173.48) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma025736; Fri Apr 16 16:52:14 1999 Message-ID: <3717BBE5.54A5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:38:30 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Being sober..at a rave]] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would have been better but I just couldn't get into it seing how Paul's condom was made out of fur :) **Love you Paul** ((((MUAH)))) > =Paul*E*Wog > P.S. Liz is good in bed... and she is having Nick's love child. > Elizabeth Traver wrote: > > > > On the entire topic of drugs I basically feel that it's every persons > > private business, if someone chooses to take something(whether it be at > > a party or not) then thats their responsability to know and understand > > exactly what is going into they're body- > > > > I know that it's somewhat disgusting(and humerous) to see a young > > person(or old) wide eyed cheesy smile on their face and walking around > > telling everyone how much they love them. But let these people do > > they're thing...Give it time, they'll grow out of it, or build up a > > tolerance to a point in which they won't be acting like such a lame ass. > > > > It also seems that most people that are straight edge are somewhat > > hypecritical becuase of the fact that at one point or another they > > either did drugs or they had tried a drug(s). I definatly do agree that > > the drugs do not make the party and if thats the only reason that your > > having a good time then you're going for the worng reasons. > > > > Thats all I got to say, > > PeaceOut and Much Love > > Elizabeth > > > > Geri Dahl wrote: > > > > > > I am still not clear on what my views are on the whole drug thing. I > > > think if a person is going to ingest a hallucinogen, that they > > > shouldn't just limit themselves to doing so at a rave party. I think > > > that moderation is important, and having some idea of what you'd like > > > to get out of the experience is important too. I agree that no one > > > should take drugs just because a friend or even someone from the > > > medical profession suggests to. Your body is sacred. So is your mind. > > > Treat yourself like the god or goddess you are.love,Julie > > > > > > --- Jessica Webster wrote: > > > > THANK YOU for that. > > > > > > > > I am almost always "sober" at raves, parties, > > > > whatnot. I've done E three > > > > times in my life - twice when it first became > > > > available (1984 or '85) and I > > > > was given 2 grams to swallow right thenandthere, and > > > > almost died both ti > > > > (convulsions, irregular heartbeat, absolutely no > > > > control of breathing, > > > > autonomic functions seeming like they required > > > > concentration, everything > > > > visually in an orange & purple shaking grid), and > > > > once in '97 at the > > > > pleading of some friends. > > > > > > > > Don't beg your friends to do drugs with you if they > > > > tell you they have an > > > > aversion - no matter how psychological this aversion > > > > - to those particular > > > > drugs. It will only provide vast disappointment for > > > > yourself and your pal, > > > > and will probably also get you puked upon. > > > > > > > > Anyway: I don't do E. I had my day/week/month/years > > > > with acid way back > > > > when. THC has an LSD affect on me these days. My > > > > doors of perception are > > > > plenty wide open. > > > > > > > > SO - I am usually very clearheaded when I go out. > > > > Perhaps I am wide awake, > > > > even. This makes me more critical of some events - > > > > say alot of F8 or TnJF > > > > massives - and probably more appreciative of others. > > > > > > > > When I make friends, I make them for real, not just > > > > for a night or a > > > > backrub. When I hear and feel and see the music, > > > > it's because the person > > > > on the decks is a deity (Jeno! Sage! Christopher > > > > Lawrence! Noel! Ethan! > > > > etcetcetc!) and not because I have an e-crush on > > > > them (M&M!). When I > > > > shake my booty it's with clearminded passion, not > > > > synthetic delerium. > > > > > > > > This isn't to detract from synthetic delerium, mind > > > > you. > > > > > > > > Just know that, if you see me dancing when you're > > > > performing, I'm tripping > > > > on *you*, and that you are what I came to the party > > > > for, vs. just using it > > > > as a venue for doing my drugs or picking up on > > > > folks. > > > > > > > > Urgh I wanna go play in the sun, > > > > > > > > Jessica > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:06:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8236 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:06:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 8205 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:06:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:06:38 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-90.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.90]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03798; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3717B3D8.BC1F2586@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:04:08 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu CC: WOO1121@aol.com, KaNdeEKlD@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions References: <5c28f4d8.24484d25@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No Rafie!! I said 50 mg. You cheap butt slut! You intestine poker! Butt dart champion! Oh yeah... =Paul*E*Wog WOO1121@aol.com wrote: > > Uhhhh, you told me a few months ago that you take like 500 mg of 5-HTP after > parties. Maybe you were just...LYING TO ME!!!!! > > Rafie > ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:13:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13327 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:13:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 13311 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:13:44 -0000 Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:13:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416221342.5606.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.241.28.1] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:13:42 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:13:42 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P S T E R Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: RE: 1015 closed? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That would totally suck. So much waisted talent goes into that building and nobody to really share it with. I heard they were cracking down on all the drug traffic that was going on there. I also heard the reason why they are being strict about people sitting down on the floor all over the place is because somebody OD there and nobody new about it. That is also the reason for the crack down and the heat from the city. Chep (truman) In case I don't see ya, good afternoon......... good evening.......... good night.......... --- "Valverde, Andrew" wrote: > has anyone heard about 1015 closing.. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Creamy Goodness [SMTP:colostamy@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 12:19 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: 1015 closed? > > I just heard that 1015 got shut down. I would have > > figured that it would have been all over the list if > > this had happened, so i am not putting stock into > this > until I hear more to substantiate it. > > Anybody know anything? > > Steve =/ > > === > "Stupid people just puzzle me." > Vitaly Golomb > > "What we have here is failure to communicate." > The warden in Cool Hand Luke > >
RE: 1015 closed?

has anyone heard about 1015 closing..

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Creamy Goodness [SMTP:colostamy@yahoo.com]
    Sent:   Friday, April 16, 1999 12:19 PM
    To:     sfraves@hyperreal.org
    Subject:        1015 closed?

    I just heard that 1015 got shut down.  I would have
    figured that it would have been all over the list if
    this had happened, so i am not putting stock into this
    until I hear more to substantiate it.

    Anybody know anything?

    Steve =/

    ===
    "Stupid people just puzzle me."
                        Vitaly Golomb

    "What we have here is failure to communicate."
                        The warden in Cool Hand Luke

=== In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:15:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14397 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:15:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 14377 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:15:16 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:15:16 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-90.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.90]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16463; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3717B601.33EC68B2@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:13:21 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: Ray Vonie , sfraves@hyperreal.org, Max McCauley Subject: Re: Some constants in life... References: <924284864.15458.178@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am not a candy raver. I just wear bright clothes. I have dressed like this my whole life. I swear to god. Why is it that all through my childhood i was never in style and all of a sudden now everyone is dressing like me I am going to be wearing green furry pants, but they got ruined the other day in the dryer so the fur is very nappy, but there is not enough time or money to make another pair so i am going to wear them anyway... i always stick out anyway yes i will dance... if the djs play something that is fast enough for me to dance to. I am walking around all the time because i get bored of the same repetitive cyber bouncy beats. I think i am going to try some jungle this time, since there is never hardcore at parties. =Paul*E*Wog leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > ok... so the summary is.... paul is not a candy raver, though he apparently > plays one at parties. or at least he has for the last 3 years, since his > early teenage years. > > and at harmony, he's going to be dancing. this will delight me to no end, > since lately when i see paul he's walking or standing around. maybe we just > haven't crossed paths on the dance floor. > > and max --and i'm sure others who have not crossed paths with paul at > cupertino high school during recess or whatever -- would love to actually > meet paul in person. > > i highly recommend this. > > in fact, i am offering to be the paul hayden introduction service tomorrow > night at harmony.... please find me (if you don't know me, i'm easy to > spot... i'm older, chubby, have lots of silver bracelets and tattoos on both > shoulders, and i'll be wearing a flower crown and orange checked shirt with > bright flower pants).... and i will personally try to introduce as many > people as possible to paul. > > (paul, can you make sure to wear something that *really* stands out... now > that those other kids have taken up your candy rave style, we need something > truly notable.. probably that big foam "e" you made as a necklace once won't > be as distinctive as it once was, huh) > > and since he has promised he'll be spending his time dancing (did i get that > right paul? you'll be dancing? really?), then that should make it easier > too. > > harmony was already going to be awesome... this will make it even better! > > love, leslie > > p.s. i'll probably be out working the line when it's early and crazy.... so > folks please make sure you have presales or if not, show up bright and > early, ok? it breaks my heart when i have to tell people the party's sold > out, and capacity on this is strictly limited! your kind cooperation is > much appreciated! > > _______________________________________________________ > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:23:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20041 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:23:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20013 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:23:35 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:23:35 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-90.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.90]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23880; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3717B769.1795B506@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:19:21 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: etraver@ix.netcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Being sober..at a rave]] References: <3717BBE5.54A5@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I made it myself too! I am going to call you right now liz for a candy booty call. =Paul*E*Wog Elizabeth Traver wrote: > > I would have been better but I just couldn't get into it seing how > Paul's condom was made out of fur :) > **Love you Paul** > ((((MUAH)))) > > > =Paul*E*Wog > > P.S. Liz is good in bed... and she is having Nick's love child. > > > Elizabeth Traver wrote: > > > > > > On the entire topic of drugs I basically feel that it's every persons > > > private business, if someone chooses to take something(whether it be at > > > a party or not) then thats their responsability to know and understand > > > exactly what is going into they're body- > > > > > > I know that it's somewhat disgusting(and humerous) to see a young > > > person(or old) wide eyed cheesy smile on their face and walking around > > > telling everyone how much they love them. But let these people do > > > they're thing...Give it time, they'll grow out of it, or build up a > > > tolerance to a point in which they won't be acting like such a lame ass. > > > > > > It also seems that most people that are straight edge are somewhat > > > hypecritical becuase of the fact that at one point or another they > > > either did drugs or they had tried a drug(s). I definatly do agree that > > > the drugs do not make the party and if thats the only reason that your > > > having a good time then you're going for the worng reasons. > > > > > > Thats all I got to say, > > > PeaceOut and Much Love > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > Geri Dahl wrote: > > > > > > > > I am still not clear on what my views are on the whole drug thing. I > > > > think if a person is going to ingest a hallucinogen, that they > > > > shouldn't just limit themselves to doing so at a rave party. I think > > > > that moderation is important, and having some idea of what you'd like > > > > to get out of the experience is important too. I agree that no one > > > > should take drugs just because a friend or even someone from the > > > > medical profession suggests to. Your body is sacred. So is your mind. > > > > Treat yourself like the god or goddess you are.love,Julie > > > > > > > > --- Jessica Webster wrote: > > > > > THANK YOU for that. > > > > > > > > > > I am almost always "sober" at raves, parties, > > > > > whatnot. I've done E three > > > > > times in my life - twice when it first became > > > > > available (1984 or '85) and I > > > > > was given 2 grams to swallow right thenandthere, and > > > > > almost died both ti > > > > > (convulsions, irregular heartbeat, absolutely no > > > > > control of breathing, > > > > > autonomic functions seeming like they required > > > > > concentration, everything > > > > > visually in an orange & purple shaking grid), and > > > > > once in '97 at the > > > > > pleading of some friends. > > > > > > > > > > Don't beg your friends to do drugs with you if they > > > > > tell you they have an > > > > > aversion - no matter how psychological this aversion > > > > > - to those particular > > > > > drugs. It will only provide vast disappointment for > > > > > yourself and your pal, > > > > > and will probably also get you puked upon. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway: I don't do E. I had my day/week/month/years > > > > > with acid way back > > > > > when. THC has an LSD affect on me these days. My > > > > > doors of perception are > > > > > plenty wide open. > > > > > > > > > > SO - I am usually very clearheaded when I go out. > > > > > Perhaps I am wide awake, > > > > > even. This makes me more critical of some events - > > > > > say alot of F8 or TnJF > > > > > massives - and probably more appreciative of others. > > > > > > > > > > When I make friends, I make them for real, not just > > > > > for a night or a > > > > > backrub. When I hear and feel and see the music, > > > > > it's because the person > > > > > on the decks is a deity (Jeno! Sage! Christopher > > > > > Lawrence! Noel! Ethan! > > > > > etcetcetc!) and not because I have an e-crush on > > > > > them (M&M!). When I > > > > > shake my booty it's with clearminded passion, not > > > > > synthetic delerium. > > > > > > > > > > This isn't to detract from synthetic delerium, mind > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > Just know that, if you see me dancing when you're > > > > > performing, I'm tripping > > > > > on *you*, and that you are what I came to the party > > > > > for, vs. just using it > > > > > as a venue for doing my drugs or picking up on > > > > > folks. > > > > > > > > > > Urgh I wanna go play in the sun, > > > > > > > > > > Jessica > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:29:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24379 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:29:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 24332 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:29:03 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:29:03 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05571 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990416153206.007f0b80@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:32:06 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: NRR: Outweighing the "right" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dear Everyone, This is about a Petition to American Airlines. American Airlines is a major sponsor and supporter of groups like: GLAAD, the Human Rights Campaign, the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund, the AIDS Action Foundation, DIFFA, AmFAR, and scores of Community-based groups representing gays and lesbians. It is also the first airline to adopt a written non-discrimination policy covering sexual orientation in its employment practices. In an unusual joint letter released to the media on March 14th from the Family Research Council, Concerned Women of America, American Family Association and Coral Ridge Ministries, American Airlines was openly criticized about their policy. Radical right leader Beverly LaHaye also went on Christian "talk radio" on Friday to blast American Airlines because American's sponsorship of homosexual 'pride' events constitutes an open endorsement of "promiscuous homosexuality." She and the other groups have written Bob Crandall at American to complain that the airline has "gone beyond mere tolerance" of gays and lesbians. It has come to the attention of the gay and lesbian community that American Airline's switchboard and e-mails are being bombarded now by homophobic and hateful callers who have been urged by LaHaye and others to demand the company terminate its gay-friendly policies. You don't have to be gay or lesbian or, for that matter, of any particular sexual nature to respond to this message. You only have to be decent and have a desire to take one small step in opposing bigotry. Please add your name to this petition and forward it to as many people as you can (many of you have been sought out because of your access to sympathetic mailing lists). IMPORTANT: Do not use the "Forward" utility in your mail program. Instead, cut and paste this message onto a new message, add your name to the bottom of the list, and send it out. If you are the 25th, 50th, 75th, 100th, etc. person to sign this petition then also please forward this to American Airlines at: Webmaster@amrcorp.com. TO AMERICAN AIRLINES: We, the undersigned, support your gay/lesbian rights policies and commend you for your efforts in ending discrimination. Thank you for your dedication to such issues and please continue to remain active in the struggle to end discrimination. 1. Jim Bushnell, Seattle, WA 2. Ernest Coffey, Edmonds, WA 3. William Hamp, Edmonds, WA 4. Nicole Lippa, CA 5. Blaise Lippa, CA 6. Elizabeth Wylie, CA 6. Eleanor R. Mason, CA 7. Doll Piccotto, San Carlos, CA 8. Scott King Crandall, Sunnyvale, CA 9. Alyca Tanner, Mountain View, CA 10. Brian Larsen, San Josi, CA 11. Dyan McBride, San Francisco, CA 12. Dennis O'Brien, San Francisco, CA 13. Jim Taulli, Orange County, CA 14. Kaleta Brown, Tahoe Vista, CA 15. Tom Provenzano, Los Angeles, CA 16. Linsey Hamilton, Las Vegas, NV 17. Traci Allanson, Las Vegas, NV 18. Amber Madsen, Pasadena,CA 19. Amy Ross, Las Vegas, NV 20. Janelle M. Lannan, Las Vegas, NV 21. Shawn G. Davis, Las Vegas, NV 22. Jon Landstrom, Santa Fe, NM 23. Sarah Beck, Tijeras, NM 24. Elizabeth K.Canfield, Albuquerque,NM 25. The Rev. B. Gail Joralemon, Albuquerque, NM 26. The Rev. Elice Higginbotham, Albuquerque, NM 27. Bob Long, Wyndmoor PA 28. Kenneth E. Garner, Philadelphia, PA 29. Robert R. Mikrut, Philadelphia, PA 30. Peter Rutenberg, Los Angeles, CA 31. Maurice Staples, Washington, DC 32. Tom Hall, Baltimore, MD 33. Dennis Stewart, Belcamp, MD 34. Bruce Eicher, Timonium, MD Bruce R. Eicher 202 Cinder Road, Timonium, MD 21093 35. Theodore Feldmann, Baltimore, MD 21202 36. Jeff Doenges, Milwaukee, WI 37. Casey Cantwell, Tulsa, OK 38. Richard C. Irwin, Tulsa, OK 39. Ricardo C. Carrasco, Ph.D., Orlando, FL 40. Greg A. Alderson, Orlando, FL 41. David Buckner, M.A.T., L.M.T., N.M.T., N.C.T.M.B., Orlando, FL 42. Troy L. Hernandez, Winter Park, FL 43. David Murdock, Maitland, FL 44. Richard M. Zachry, Maitland, FL 45. Roldan F. Smith, Atlanta, GA 46. Margaret M. Graff, Atlanta GA 47. Hazel Edlinger, Atlanta, GA 48. Teri Meigs, El Sobrante, Ca. 49. Eliza Grace Daniels, Santa Rosa CA 50. Megan Eoyang, Santa Rosa, CA 51. Shawn Bridgeman, Berkeley, CA 52. Jason Bates, Berkeley, CA 53. Carly Bourne, Berkeley, CA *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:33:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26593 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:33:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 26566 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:33:02 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:33:02 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA28875 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:32:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from unknown(207.92.173.48) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027247; Fri Apr 16 17:04:24 1999 Message-ID: <3717C348.558E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:10:02 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR--ERIC SPIRE...Silver Pearl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Eric, I accidentally trashed your e'mail addy and I just needed to let you know to send me another box. Peace Elizabeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:38:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 797 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:38:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 769 invoked by uid 228); 16 Apr 1999 22:38:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves@hyperreal.org cc: Karina Powers , darin@blueroomusa.com Subject: Lost ID and Bank Card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, If you were at the last Blue Room on April 3rd, 1999 and you lost your drivers license and bank card, please contact me. Thanks. Karina ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:39:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1004 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:39:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 982 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:39:08 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:39:08 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11398 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990416154214.007e2c90@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:42:14 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Have a lot of Faith Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Faith was wonderful last night. I met some great people, danced my ass off, and ran into one of my best friends from my sophomore year of High School... how random?!! Tracer spun a wonderful set!! And I liked the house spun by blackstone as well... overall Faith was great. Thanks again to Mike for being so helpful... It was great to meet the folks from sfr as well... what a great Thursday night! Okay, I'm done being happy. Love, Carly :) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:40:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1339 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:40:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1321 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:40:09 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:40:09 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 3NVOa09989 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:39:38 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:39:31 EDT Subject: WEEKEND WEEKEND WEEKEND!! To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WEll... it's here again, and I haven't been out in a while, but looks like it's about damn time. I'm starting off with work tonight (always a great way to start the weekend) and then Tomorrow I think i'll be heading out to one of the lovely daytime parties. I'm guessing the one Rob is throwing because if I'm not mistaken it's in Fremont. Details?? always love them closer to home.... Saturday night I'll be at Harmony (It's tha key, my sisters and brothers) And I do suggest you use me as a meeting spot.. go ahead.. feel free.. I'll have on a blue tube top with a yellow reflective strip down the front and lots of laminates.. possibly a blue wig and yellow star sunglasses on my head. Always lots of laminates. I'm really looking forward to this party and hope to see a lot of you there! Cracked out sunday will be appropriately spent in the sunshine, I hope.. if anyone feels like Chilling give me a buzz. OK! I've noticed the attitude of this list follows the weather... Look how nice everyone is being now that the sun came out. That or they have less of an excuse to stay inside and stir up shit on mailing lists. They can actually have lives now!! but who wants to leave SFR?? hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "empathy is perfection." "DO not go gentle into that good night!" Rave! rave into the dawning of the light!" -- as altered by Shawna the laughin happy trip farmer From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:45:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3996 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:45:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 3971 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:45:36 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:45:36 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vCGIa25511 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:44:30 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:44:15 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Smokefree---finally To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey John, wernt you and Tj smoking at Wicked on friday? Mmmmm, Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:45:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4382 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:45:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 4299 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:45:54 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:45:54 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdBAAa006JS; Fri Apr 16 15:40:10 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa17487; 16 Apr 99 15:37 PDT Message-ID: <3717BB7D.4EF360C0@sco.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:36:45 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Ngo CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: locating Boy George trance song "Time" References: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24E7@smtp.northpointcom.com> <012c01be884d$7ca4ff80$b60318d1@ssimarkfmt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Culture Club (my god they've now reformed) recorded this aound 1980 - I don't believe Boy George ever recorded it on his own - but he may have remixed it - either way it's not trance, if it's culture club it's pop music, if it's Boy George then it's handbag house....... Lesley > Nick Ngo wrote: > > Hi, > > I been trying to find the boy george trance song...I believe the song > goes like this..."...and in time we could be so much more...and time > is so precious to me..." > > BTW who's going to Harmony let's hookup...Im from the san jose > area...does anyone know where its gonna be at yet?? Homebase??? > Thanks, > > Nick From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:52:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10308 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:52:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 10294 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:52:46 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:52:46 -0000 Received: from stinger.excite.com (stinger-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.220]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA68398 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:52:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from leslie.ayres@excite.com) From: leslie.ayres@excite.com Received: from ringo.excite.com ([199.172.152.145]) by stinger.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990416225056.NYHG15757.stinger@ringo.excite.com> for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:50:56 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: Smokefree--finally Message-Id: <924303055.22551.21@excite.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:50:55 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All the best to the courageous souls who are becoming stronger than the demon nicotine... (which, dare i say, i still miss sometimes even 1-1/2 years after quitting this last time)... i thought i'd share my experience just in case it helps someone. when i was smoking last, i found myself going through almost 2 packs per weekend party night.... (hard to count since so many people bum cigs at parties, and i always tried to have extras) then one morning - november 23, 1997 -- i coughed up some really nasty shit, and realized i didn't want my life to have such a gross element in it .... and i realized that some of the appeal of smoking is... are you ready?? BREATHING! that moment when you light up and inhale deeply.... i realized that my body was trying to breathe deeply, charge itself with oxygen, and then relax... i was standing and having a conversation with vertigo at a party at home base, i'll never forget that moment of realization... it was about breathing deeply! so i quit. at first, every time i craved a cigarette, i reimind myself i was really craving BREATHING... so i took five long deep breaths. and by the time i was done, the craving passed. but the taste and activity was still seductive, and sometimes i wanted a cigarette. then one night, i was dancing for hours at a party, and i realized something that changed me forever. cigarettes keep me from dancing. when i smoke cigarettes... i don't dance... i dance for a little while, then i get distracted (hey, that mix was weak, what happened to the bass, who's that over there, anything was distracting).... and i'd say, i know, i'll take a little smoke break. of course that lasts about 15 minutes, cuz you have to smoke, then you have to let your body absorb that nicotine, by which time you're talking to some one... and that precious dance time is gone, and it's an effort to get your groove back. so i was dancing -- as a non-smoker -- and i realized i'd been dancing for 3 HOURS WITHOUT A BREAK!! and that was when i realized that my real choice was not to smoke or not.... ***MY REAL CHOICE IS THAT I CAN SMOKE... OR I CAN DANCE.... *** and what kind of stupid motherfucker would rather smoke than dance, i asked myself? dancing is the most important thing in my life... i'd be willing to give up anything to dance (well, *almost* anything ;^) that's my experience.... and if it helps one of you this weekend to resist a cigarette... especially if you're at harmony... then my day was worth it! much love, the (cigarette-)smokeless leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:53:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10590 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:53:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 10536 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:53:11 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:53:11 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id SAA14406; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990416153946.03611880@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:52:31 -0700 To: Oct1faith@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: binary fineboy Subject: Re: Tracer rock Faith... In-Reply-To: <2ba5c519.24488a92@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 05:44 AM 4/16/99 , Oct1faith@aol.com wrote: >Thanks to Mike Tracer >it is allways nice when surprise guess come in an Rock it > >And thanks to the crew of poeple that showed up form the sfr list. >I finally met fineboy. We call it even since my friend don't like the Titanic >song an his don't like Cher.....the fag house wars is over. > > so wait? if I can get mike to promise not to play the titanic song, will you promise not to play cher? so anyways ... for those of you kids who didnt hit faith last night you missed out. lotsa cute raver boys, lotsa cute raver girls (hmm, was it carly and susan I met?), and Tracer had the joint rockin right until 3. I still cant believe I heard Eisbaer in a gay club ... I never thought the day would come. Faith is a cool club with lots of potential that could be VERY cool with a little more support from us cute raver boys and girls out there. I know Blackstone is making a legitimate effort to create a club thats not mainstream and taking a huge leap of faith (no pun intended) bringing in acts like Tracer and DRC to a gay club. With some word of mouth and some support we can Faith a cool way to spend a thursday night ... this about it, would you rather see Mars and Mystre or watch reruns of ER? that is all ... ryan PS: quote of the night: "that chuckie guy dances like a mad man" - some guy from seattle ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 22:55:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12175 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 22:55:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 12133 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 22:55:40 -0000 Received: from law-f116.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.179) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 22:55:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 98354 invoked by uid 0); 16 Apr 1999 22:55:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416225513.98353.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.162.97.35 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:55:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.162.97.35] From: "phreaky freak" To: echo@hooked.net Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, karina@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: calendar Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:55:13 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it's karina@hyperreal.org ----Original Message Follows---- From: je To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: calendar Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:05:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-phreakyfreak Tue Apr 13 12:02:00 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8DCDFA80080D1B9832CD185531011300; Tue Apr 13 12:02:00 1999 Received: (qmail 3988 invoked by uid 6000); 13 Apr 1999 19:00:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 3772 invoked from network); 13 Apr 1999 19:00:46 - 0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50)by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 19:00:46 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.222] (seoul-222.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.222])by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTPid MAA25376 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:00:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net Message-Id: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what's the right e:mail address for posting to sfraves calendar? thanks Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 23:09:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22436 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 23:09:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 22400 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 23:09:26 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 23:09:25 -0000 Received: from cruinc.com ([209.157.30.51]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04390; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3717C265.3F2911AD@cruinc.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:06:15 -0700 From: RobinT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris DeWard , Gwenn Huson , Jerry Maldonado , Monica J Brown , Monica Malcolm , Patti Graham , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" , Warmth , Yolanda Perez Subject: RE: NRR: Great American Gas Out - CHANGED! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This actually seems to be a pretty nifty strategy... > > > > > > If you haven't heard, April 30th has been targeted as a one day > event > > > to > > > stay away from all gas stations. THIS WILL NOT WORK! One day > will > > > not make an impact on the outrageous prices we are paying for gas > and > > > the oil companies are laughing throughout their board rooms. > > > > > > Starting April 11th we will strategically target the BIG oil > companies > > > for ONE WEEK. Please do not buy gas at the stations on the > following > > > dates listed below: > > > > > > CHEVRON-------------------------------------April 18th through April > > > > 25th > > > > > > EXXON-----------------------------------------April 25th through May > > > > 2nd > > > > > > SHELL------------------------------------------May 2nd through May > 9th > > > > > > 76------------------------------------------------May 9th through > May > > > 16th > > > > > > Texaco------------------------------------------May 16th through May > > > > 23rd > > > > > > This will work if we all pull together . There is a strong > perception > > > in northern California by the oil companies that consumers will pay > > > whatever the market will bear. These weekly boycotts may be > > > required on a continuous basis until the message is clear that the > > > unfair and unjustified high prices will not be tolerated by the > > > consumer. > > > > > > Please forward this message to friends, family members, and anyone > else > > > who will support this effort via email, fax, word of mouth etc. > > > > > > Yours Truly, > > > > > > > > > > > > Fed Up From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 23:10:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23023 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 23:10:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 23008 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 23:10:34 -0000 Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 23:10:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416231032.15235.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.224] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:10:32 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:10:32 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: RE: 1015 closed? To: chep_plur@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know nothing about this. I will find out soon, and post what I find out... michael o)-< --- C H E P S T E R wrote: > That would totally suck. > > So much waisted talent goes into that building and > nobody to really share it with. > > I heard they were cracking down on all the drug > traffic that was going on there. > > I also heard the reason why they are being strict > about people sitting down on the floor all over the > place is because somebody OD there and nobody new > about it. > > That is also the reason for the crack down and the > heat from the city. > > Chep > > (truman) In case I don't see ya, > good afternoon......... > good evening.......... > good night.......... > > > > --- "Valverde, Andrew" > wrote: > > has anyone heard about 1015 closing.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Creamy Goodness [SMTP:colostamy@yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 12:19 PM > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: 1015 closed? > > > > I just heard that 1015 got shut down. I would > have > > > > figured that it would have been all over the list > if > > > > this had happened, so i am not putting stock into > > this > > until I hear more to substantiate it. > > > > Anybody know anything? > > > > Steve =/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 23:25:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 951 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 23:25:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 928 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 23:25:06 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (root@205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 23:25:06 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14412 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:08:31 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:26:22 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: terry estioko Subject: SFR Laminate Update Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi- For those that are expecting laminates at The Spring Time Flower Festival... So...a...we're trying to figure out exactly how to fit all this lighting/visuals into the main room. "More Lights!" "More Lasers!" "More Pretty!" "Ah haha!" Greg keeps saying... going off like he's "Willie Wonka" over here and he got some kind of " rave factory" going on. (of course that's why we love him =) Anyway, we (Viberation Visuals) *might* be relocating out of the tech house tulips room, regardless, whichever room has visuals will also have laminates. Updated request info is at: http://www.viberation.com/terry/sfrlams And yes I got in all the last minute requests. See you tomorrow! It's going to be one SICK party! -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 16 23:33:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3826 invoked by uid 6000); 16 Apr 1999 23:33:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 3776 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 23:33:13 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 23:33:13 -0000 Received: from FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 3WZRa26487 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:32:11 EDT Subject: eklectic review.. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, the party was hella tight, sage and siren are both hella fine and very talented! i like their style. finally i got to talk to max.. ;) hehe, sorry i didn't hear my name silly boi. and i got to meet nuku (we saw each other at another party, right?) plus i saw a lot of peeps from school. i thought that i would be staying upstairs the whole time, but it was so much cooler downstairs and the *hip hop* wasn't all that bad! lol. anyway, this was a good *first time @ eklectic*, and hopefully, i'll be partying there more! okie dokie. everyone come to epiphany tomorrow, k? i'll see you guys there! it's gonna be great... free (vegan) food, sunshine, friendly people, jungle...what more could you ask for?!! ~catrina. thanks naomi and markis for having to put up with getting all my shit back from my ex-girlfriend! sorry if it ruined the party atmosphere!! peace. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 00:06:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23948 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 00:06:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 23928 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 00:06:16 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 00:06:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA08691 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:06:15 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Bee Es Pee 4 Ann Dee Dub El Ewe [BSP4NDW] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Drive thru Epiphany's Daybreaks party tomorrow for a 6 piece of AndyW nuggets, a supa size Science, and maybe a side of McDuh. After that, the cholesterol doesn't stop! Pull up to the Harmony Diner and get in on a burly helping of LiveAndyW for dessert, prepared before your very eyes! Yes, that does come with cheese... andyw p.s. 3-4pm @ daybreaks, 1:30-3am @ harmony From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 00:14:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29267 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 00:14:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 29257 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 00:14:28 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?oujVSnA3N82uIzAITWl1EvCsBESPPLmR?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 00:14:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id RAA13952 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:12:03 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:12:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 1015 folsom Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I heard this and went nuts. Called Miss E from eklektic, she hadn't heard, we called DJ Siren who works with spundae, for the bassment, and she hadn't heard anything and she called the nikita crew and they hadn't heard anything about it. so I called Darin from Blue Room who lives by there and he said he saw people going in as he drove by after eklektic last night. And so I would say it's probably not true. fingers crossed though, seen. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 00:31:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6788 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 00:31:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6773 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 00:30:59 -0000 Received: from web201.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 00:30:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417003004.9213.rocketmail@web201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.218] by web201.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:30:04 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:30:04 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: 1015 folsom = still open! To: Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I confirmed this, it is not closed. Be safe, and keep our night life going strong... love, michael o)-< --- Max McCauley wrote: > > I heard this and went nuts. > > Called Miss E from eklektic, she hadn't heard, we > called DJ Siren who > works with spundae, for the bassment, and she hadn't > heard anything and > she called the nikita crew and they hadn't heard > anything about it. > > so I called Darin from Blue Room who lives by there > and he said he saw > people going in as he drove by after eklektic last > night. > > And so I would say it's probably not true. > > fingers crossed though, seen. > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 00:38:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10069 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 00:38:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 10059 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 00:38:42 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 00:38:42 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vFMTa27249; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:37:33 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:37:31 EDT Subject: Re: Whats a Rewind; How do i become a DJ.......... To: WWoodliff@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Reply-To: MissNexa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/16/99 11:52:51 AM PST, WWoodliff@aol.com writes: << What ever happened to D. I. Y. That is as much a part of the scene as PLUR or any of the other now commercially exploited terms that are associated with the culture. Just a few weeks ago people were all in an uproar about a "NO TRAINSPOTTING ZONE". That should go unsaid at every party. Who the hell do these people think they are standing in front of the turntables trying to get a look at this record that some other DJ is spinning. That record that he spent hours or even days listening to record after record to find, you are now going to just put it in your little note book and then go order it from your local record store. That's bullshit, have some originality and some creativity have some devotion to what you believe in.>> Any record, any song out there is going to be accessible in some way... it's only up to the DJ to try and find a way to weave it together with a group of various other sounds to create a style and mood all their own. I think I've heard PVD's "For an Angel" about a bazillion times and every time I've heard it the DJ casts a unique blend all their own... And the creativity bit..... then go out and start producing your own tracks if you want to be *original* and *creative.* I think that was just a badly worded statement, I think you might've meant differently, but I may be wrong. Besides, a lot of the trance records that my friends dig are not accessible unless they're thru snail mail to various places in Europe... but no matter, they're going to Germany anyway to buy their own records, so the problem of mailing them thru their local record store is solved. << I see all of these post about "How do I become a DJ." You get out there and work your ass off. Just like anything else. You don't sit on the Internet and ask questions. Up until just about 4 or 5 years ago you had to search for days just to find turntables. Now you are basically tripping over them every time you walk into a music store along with all the how to be a DJ videos. If you wanted to go to a party you pretty much had to know someone, now the promoters are flyering all the local high schools. What kills the vibe at parties are all the people who don't have a clue as to what it is all about and more over don't care what it is all about. They didn't put out any effort to get there so why should they. They weren't brought there by any one who might be able to teach them because they picked up a flyer at Ameba on Telegraph while they were in there to buy the latest Spice Girls CD. Believe it or not our beloved culture has become a trend and as long as it is that accessible to the public we will keep getting more and more people who show up just because it is there. >> I agree (Zen and the Art of Turntablism), but you know what? If you put your heart, soul, and patience into practicing, then it shows. It shows in the attitude, the way they present themselves before, during, and after their sets... and it's easy to spot. So don't worry too much about it, it's too hot and muggy to even think. <> The E*tarded count on average per square inch within a 3 foot radius of the decks is less than anywhere else in the venue.... besides, has anyone ever seen a bunch of kids getting it on in the front? Nawww no way...... much nicer view standing/dancing in the front. Altho there are many exceptions to the rule. Have a fun time at Harmony you guys... I'll be suffering at the Junior Prom with some real crap music and a bunch of tweeks on E. Greeeaat almost like a party except for the dope beats! I won't be partying too hard, AP testing is in May, although I might take my mom to that party in Golden Gate Park, cause we've been planning on spending quality time together and I want to show her why I love partying so damn much. Hey man, how about starting to write a short message on a piece of paper about how much people need to learn more about the scene and what it's all about and pass it around at parties? Have a good weekend! and the beat goes on... ---> Nexa "Just remember, your sexuality comes from your power, your pwer is NOT your sexuality...." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 00:45:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13728 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 00:45:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13614 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 00:45:25 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 00:45:25 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vGUNa12149; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:44:15 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <4daeb80f.2449335b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:44:11 EDT Subject: party tonight!!!! To: Juju0322@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk was interested in finding a party for tonight, get back PLEASE! -ralph :D From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 01:19:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22664 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 01:19:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 22647 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 01:19:05 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?TfESDpCf3LCio9tbQPgwjdWtN5/TERR5?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 01:19:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id SAA26026 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:16:13 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:16:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: drum and bass in motion THIS WEEK/END Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK. Last Tuesday was the greatest night I think I've ever had junglin in SF. Phunktion is going to be RUNNIN TINGS LIKE TIGER SPIT CREW, Tuesday nights at the Top from now until forever. www.sfdb.com Eklektic is celebrating its 85th week this month. the shit rules. www.izmedia.com/eklektic the bassment always run tings, don't miss E-SASSIN tonight. www.spundae.net and this weekend, what am I up to... saturday: Daybreaks presented by Epiphany posse. 12 noon - 8pm outdoors SF, free, with food, etc. wicked ting seen. 415.289.2100 x118 saturday night Harmony presents: Springtime Flower Business junglists: RE: (live PA), Protolab (live PA), Cimino, Russel G, Hak, and the barrister like: @@@@@@ @@@@@@@ @@@ @@@@@@@@ @@@ @@@ @@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@ @@@ @@@@@@@@ @@@@ @@@ @@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@ !@@ !@@ @@! @@! @@!@!@@@ !@@ @@! !@! !@! !@! !@! !@!!@!@! !@! !@! !!@@!! !@! !!@ @!!!:! @!@ !!@! !@! @!!!:! !!@!!! !!! !!! !!!!!: !@! !!! !!! !!!!!: !:! :!! !!: !!: !!: !!! :!! !!: !:! :!: :!: :!: :!: !:! :!: :!: :::: :: ::: ::: :: :: :::: :: :: ::: ::: :: :::: :: : : :: :: : : : :: :: :: : :: :: : : :: :: with halfpint honkey MC Duh inna hotseat. sunday: sunset boat party, started off by PBS Crew's Mateo, No Battles, and Arc Angel Gabe Real, with likkle nikkle bag Duh once again the MC Sailorboy. I would give you the info line number, but I don't think Sunset crew likes having their v/m on the mailing lists, so look for a little red flyer, or email me privately, and we'll talk. please enjoy each other. the seasons have definitely changed. I went out on my balcony today with shorts on and nothing else. we have this planter box that used to be full of butts, and broken glass, etc. but my flatmate and I planted a bunch of bulbs in it, and they're blooming! =) GREG SANDLER DID IT, FLOWER POWER. so get out there, make love to someone, wear a condom, smoke some fatties, and come bump to the sounds of drum&bass music with us this weekend. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 01:27:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26370 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 01:27:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 26362 invoked by uid 233); 17 Apr 1999 01:27:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 3846 invoked by uid 228); 16 Apr 1999 14:41:38 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org cc: Karina Powers Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar for April 16, 1999 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. Jules de Gaultier ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== The SFR Calendar http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 16th - exotica3 presents SLYCE The party has just begun...Convergence of music, art, media, and dance Ellen Ferrato (Sugar), Miguel "Migs" (Heavy Rotation), Laird (Release), Namico, dOM. between 1st and 2nd and between mission and howard 9pm-2am-, 21+. Rico's, 78 minna st, SF. Friday, April 16th - Conscious Session (New Moon) All Nite Session in SoMa... Jeno (Wicked), Galen (Pacific), DJ Josh (Gathering), M3 (Green Gorilla Lounge), Adnan (SF), Fabulizz (Progress). 415.273.5599 Friday, April 16th - XPOSUR presents FUTURA ORBIt (get on it) , SID LOVE(get on it) , LOUIS DETOUR (soundstation records/matrix/L.A.) , JUAN C. (XPOSUR/LOS ANGELES) , ARIS DINAMIK (XPOSUR/SOUNDSTATION RECORDS/L.A.) , OSO BIG (SOUNDSTATION RECORDS/L.A.) , BRIAN MATRIX & JOHNNY GROOVE (CD RELEASE PARTY"LET THE BASS BE LOUDER" tuff records). all night-All ages, $7. 805.637.6273 805.863.9807 800.971.7896 Friday, April 16th - Megahertz presents 66MHz Elias Smith, Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx. Lasers by UV99, Visuals by Multimedia Meltdown. 250 People Limited Capacity. Pre-sale only. $15 at F-8, T&J Factory, on-line: http://www.sfrecords.com. http://www.mhz.nu/66MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, April 17th - Epiphany presents DayBreaks! ALL DAY -- ALL BREAKS!!! Uncle Noah (Abduction Productions/LA) [breakbeat], Jungle Life Crew on 6x7! (SF) [jungle scratch-a-thon], Science & AndyW (Viberation/Harmony) [electrodowntempo], ReAch (Static/A*R*M) [hip hop], Siphon & Hak (Urban Assault) [jungle], Jason (Epiphany) [jungle], Jahsh (Harmony) [downtempo], Amber (Epiphany) [ambient jungle], With your mackadacious host, MC Duh!. Prime, outdoor, virgin, beautiful, permitted location in San Francisco! This is a DAYTIME event to benefit the Red Cross. Come party with us before the Harmony springtime! (Please, please, no alcohol! Barefoot dancing, too the groundwill be nice and dry!) 12noon-. 415.289.2100 ext.118 Saturday, April 17th - Vertigo Free Daytime Outdoor. We try again this Saturday! Bad weather last weekend left us with no choice but to postpone. So, once again, very proudly representing SF Drum N Bass, Vertigo returns to it's roots of dope beats, tasty eats and sandy feets, featuring a groovy warm-up by Positive P and B-Love from Open Mind and J-Dog from Stir-Fri-Day. Jungle seshinz from Gabe Real, Push and Mike Bee. May we all have a lovely summer! What better way to kick it off? Noon-??? Details on the Vertigo infoline. Remember: R E S P E C T! 415.339-8688 Saturday, April 17th - PSYCHOFUNKO DISCODELIC Downtempo and funky house with Laron, Tracy, Felix the Dog, Laird. Live: Spacetime Continuum. Visuals by Satsi.21+. 330 Ritch Street, SF. 415.273.1170 Saturday, April 17th - Housepitality All aboard the SOUL TRAIN ! Upstairs in the ATTIC we have a very Happy Birthday celebration for , SOLAR (Pacific) !!!!, Laron (psychofunkodiscodelic), Sean Murray (Static, Renegade Sound System), Downstairs in the INSECT LOUNGE Jungle madness from Gainseville, FLORIDA : CO3 CREW !!!, Dj Rasa & Dj Alexi and rockin' the mike MC 3DTEA, with our homey Tik Tak (Ruffneck Reality).. Email us@unitingsouls.com Located between mission & howard and 1st & 2nd. ID required. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday of the Month. 9pm-2am, . free b4 10pm. Rico's Loft, 78 Minna St, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.3493 Saturday, April 17th - Private Journey Dimentional Transfer 6 Year Anniversary!!! Jordan (Fresno) , Gavin Hardkiss (SF) , Abstract Beat Collective (Fresno) . Live: Hawke (SF) . 559.262.8100 Saturday, April 17th - Native Vision Productions presents Free Event brings you a free party to give back all of the M.A.D. LOVE you have given us SAHID (GERMANY), MARCELLUS (SF), MARKISS ANTHONY (SF), ROBBIE HARDKISS (SF. Live: PA T.B.A. . FOR MORE INFO CALL 12NOON-SUNSET , Free. 415.281.0777 Saturday, April 17th - April 18th - Treestock To be announced.. Treestock is a series of parities to replant trees in clearcut and burnt forest areas. Hundreds of trees will be planted in the shape of the World's Largest Peace Sign. The concept is similar to Burning Man, except we will be healing our planet. Saturday, April 17th - *HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL* THE TECH HOUSE TULIPS, CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE (Hook Recording artist, Los Angeles), ANGEL ALANIS (Missile Records UK, 4 Track Records, Contaminated, from Chicago), GREG SANDLER (Harmony/ Harmonics), DUTCH (Inner Eye/ Area 51), LI (Harmony/ Viberation), MAC (Harmony/ Harmonics), THE DRUM N' DAISIES, PROTOLAB (Live performance, SF), RE: (Live performance, Sacramento), SCIENCE (Harmony/ Viberation), RUSSEL G (Harmony/ Harmonics), CIMINO (Lightseed), THE DOWNBEAT DAFFODILS, THA ROMAN (Yougoodmissy, LA), ANDY W (Live performance), JAHSH(Harmony), B))MERANG. Presale tickets are available AS OF APRIL 1ST for $20 at the following locations: (There will be more tickets at the door). Harmonics - Santa Rosa, F-8 - SF, Housewares - SF, Daddy's - Berk, T&J Factory - Berk, Solid Grooves - San Jose, In The Mix - Sac. We encourage the celebration of your individuality at this event, by asking you to wear your most festive, funky, colorful clothing in order to create a field of beautiful wild flowers!!! http://www.harmonyproductions.com 408.486.9591 415.289.6788 Sunday, April 18th - The Black Lodge 4-(Invisible Recording Artists), NOT BREATHING, Pantopon Rose. (The Velvet Lounge). 21+, $6. 443 Broadway, SF. http://www.cyberden.com/blacklodge 415.289.6558 Tuesday, April 20th - Renegade sound , Pacific and the Static boys present presents The sixth annual 420 party / night version 1.0 John Howard, Sean Murray, Galen, Solar, Jbird, Miles Maeda (San Diego/Chicago). For more info dial the static line 9pm-3am, 21+, $5. the cat club, 1190 folsom street, SF. 415.289.6980 Thursday, April 22nd - Therapy presents Foreplay ~tek-House Resident~ Jasonian (Plush, FTT, Kindness). 9pm-2pm, 21+. Hi-Fi, with all new sound!, Lombard@Fillmore, SF. http://www.funkytekno.com Thursday, April 22nd - Existential Sounds and Legion of Funk presents Salivate Music to make your mouth water Jay Zimmerman (Redmelon Records). Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno Email (2nd and 4th Thursday of every month). Free before 10pm. 9:00pm -2am, 21+, $3. Il Pirata , 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 Friday, April 23rd - Exact:Scienc presents PLEASE...BE CALM An evening and morning full of Live "AMBIENT" Music. Featuring live preformances and rare remix projects by :, Kit Clayton (Cytrax records), Alloy (Nick Philip and Jeff Taylor), Moron (Sutekh & Safety Scissors,CONTEXT Records), Charles Uzzell Edwards(FAX), Pimps of Atlantis(featuring Consciousness Lab & special guest guitarist Shawn Kener), Markus Miller, Guest Djs Joe Rice(Justice League/Static) & Prof.Smith(Xlr8r), Very Special Guest, *SPOOL (Newdog records)!"kicks Global Comunications butt",Dj BreAd. This is a small event for those who enjoy experimental music.There are limited pre-sale tickets only ($5.00) on sale at OpenMind Music 342 divisadero/oak in SF(tickets go on sale this sunday)hopefully we will have some on sale at Primal in the east bay(not worked out just yet).The event will be held at a Beautiful urban space in Downtown San Fran. Email for More info 9pm-6am/ish (9hrs), . 415.789.8308 Friday, April 23rd - S.P.A.Z. and S.P.A.C.E. presents Manifest Eris harnessing the power of chaos! dj Flux (B.A.S.S. kru), Arachne Konsept w/MC Resista, Cthuluhoop, more dj's TBA, Last Minute Midnight Cirkus vs. Fireflies. all night tekno-drum and bass-hardtek-speedbass-?? underground East Bay warehouse dusk-dawn, All ages, $5. http://www.hyperreal.org/~spaz 1.800.486.6862 415.281.8407 Friday, April 23rd - FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS presents DIGITAL DREAMS ROOM ONE, CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE ,LA, TAJ (SF), SIMON APEX (SSU), DJ ROCKIT (SAC), STILLWIND (SF), DRE (SAC), B-SIDE (SAC), STOMPA, (SAC), RqIF (SAC), ROOM TWO - HARMONY SHOWCASE, GREG SANDLER, ERIK BROWN, ANDY W, LEE, ETHAN, LOGIK, J.BOT, URN, MAC, GIANNI. MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED. PRE-SALE TICKETS (LIMITED) $15.00, $20.00 @ THE DOOR ON THE NIGHT OF THE EVENT. AVAILABLE @ THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS DIMPLE RECORDS, SAC (916) 781-2800, (916) 983-2600, (916) 925-2600 IMAGINE MUSIC, SAC (916) 971-1188 SUBSONIC UNDERGROUND (OPENED MARCH 2),SAC (916) 441-2775 SOLID GROOVES , SAN JOSE (408) 999-2059 HOUSE WARES, SF (415) 252-1440 F-8, SF (415) 221-4142 DADDY'S RECORDS , BERKLEY (510) 665-1653 TRANCE & JUNGLE FACTORY, BERKLEY (510) 704-9876 HARMONICS, SANTA ROSA ((707) 571-8747 ROCK ON, FAIRFIELD (707) 571-8747 MOTION MUSIC, MODESTO (209) 577-6965 P.S JUNE 5, 1999 FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS BASS INVADERS II, MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED. 916.484.5700 800.204.3986 Friday, April 23rd - Lightseed Collective presents Lightseed Family Gathering More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Friday, April 23rd - Squeeze Adnan , Ray , Nathan . In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12am -4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. Friday, April 23rd - 2C-Beats presents Housesubversion Much more TBA. A 2-floor all-night house party. Indoor/Outdoor East Bay Location. Saturday, April 24th - Uniting Souls presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of SF's underground Special guests: E.T.I. (Oboro Records), Daum (Freaky Chakra), Jason Henry (Uniting Souls/Legion of Funk), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls/Chemistry).. Join us on the dancefloor for one incredible night of music! Between 3rd & 4th off Townsend. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. 330 Ritch, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, April 24th - Phunky Phonography Productions presents >>))*All Play Together*((<< We hope you can come out this weekend so we can ALL PLAY TOGETHER SPESH (Looq Records), MYSTRE (F8), MARS (F8), DUTCH (Inner Eye), DYLOOT (Skills, MHz, HK), TOM SLIK (Skills, T&J Factory), TRACER, RADLEY MARX (MHz, Elemental), UPHONIC (E.T.A.), KEMICAL KIDD (E.T.A.), DEPTH (Space Dreams), TELENE (Phunky Phonography), nman (Biofonik, Silverpearl), QUICKSTEP& JAIR (PhunkyPhonography), Majere (Phunky Phonography). Tickets go on sale Fri April 9th at: F8 (S.F.), Trance and Jungle Factory (Berkeley), Harmonics (S.R.), Solid Grooves (S.J.), and Pipeline (Santa Cruz). Presale only, great location, limited capacity, free bottled water at the door. 10pm-6am, . http://www2.ucsc.edu/~jarman 415.289.6553 Saturday, April 24th - cybertropic comm./5 families presents dive Urgency: the TRANCE affliction trance-Inducers, KEITH E. (SOLID GROOVES), Skyscraper (SO. BAY TRANCE CO-OP), DIVERSION (V.O.R.G), gEoff ;-) (Stargaze Family), Micron (Viberation), B))MERANG FIDGET, ERIC SPIRE (QUEST/SILVER PEARL RECORDS), MACADIO (First Light), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance & Jungle Factory), Dr. Bubble (BLANKFACE), dj D (TRANCE & JUNGLE FACTORY), Joaqman (5 FAMILIES), JD (SYNCOPATED/L.A.). ALL AGES**FREE FRUIT**FREE JUICE**FREE SOFT DRINKS. CAN YOU DIG IT??? 21+. $10 PRE-SALE . 510.330.1101 415.339.8735 Saturday, April 24th - The Unity Vibe Tribe asks you to ask yourself, are we ALLONE DJ STEW-XMIX- FLORDIA, JERRY BONAM-SPUNDAE, DJ ROMAN-SNR-PRODUCTIONS-SEATTLE, JAZZ-E, MODA, N8-UNITY VIBE, SAHID-BERLIN, GERMANY, TROY ROBERTS-SEATTLE, VERTIGO, LSDJ-UNITY VIBE, ERIC MICHAEL-UNITY VIBE, JOSHUA JACOB, JOEY-HOUSE NATION. THIS WILL BE A PLACE CREATED BY THE UNITY VIBE TRIBE. WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL GENERATIONS CAN GATHER IN PEACEFUL UNITY TO CELEBRATE THE REVIVAL OF THE OLD SCHOOL POSITIVE DANCE VIBE THAT HAS KEPT OUR UNDERGROUND SCENE ALIVE. LIGHTING BY STIMULIGHTINGS-UV99-X-TREME 9pm-7am, . 650.361.0950 408.271.6900 Saturday, April 24th - Vertigo Backatcha one more time TBA. New locale, droppin' new science. Monthly. Local. D+B. Get your cigarette holders out and your swerve on. Details to come. Sunday, April 25th - Harmonics presents DAYSHINE Ryan Wilber (NBC, Discovery, Vorg, Sparkle), Urn (NBC, Harmonics, Harmony, Discovery), Sean Norton (Magic, Body Rock, NBC). 12pm-4pm, Free. 707.571.8747 Friday, April 30th - Foundation presents FIRST FLOOR Insurgent techno featuring:, dj99!, arcane Alchemy, loopy, the kidd.. outside. Free. 415.339.8099 Friday, April 30th - COURAGE House Music: , Mark Farina, Iz, Andy Caldwell, Sharon Buck, Ray Fales, Downtempo: , Laron, PBS, Mei-Lwun, Saga. In Honour of Christopher Scott Jewkes. A benefit for the California AIDS Ride 6, to bring AIDS awareness & hope into our communities. 9PM-2AM, 21+. $10 donation. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Friday, April 30th - Full Moon John Howard, Rob Doten, DJ David Coleman, John Rodriguez , Eric Erickson, TJ. Live: SenSei. call for info Outdoor Location. Free. http://www.SFHouse.com 415.339.8015 Friday, April 30th - Nocturnal Productions presents XOX RETURNS THREE YEAR ANNIVERSERARY TBA. A secure central bay area location more tba next week Friday, April 30th - V.O.R.G. Productions presents ***HI!*** (VORG pre-party) 2 ROOMS FILLED WITH, JERRY BONHAM (Spundae), MARS (Frequency 8), MYSTRE (Frequency 8), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory,VORG), JUSTIN HALE (Simply Cosmic), RYAN WILBER (NBCHarmonics,VORG), ERIK BROWN (RebirthHarmonics), DJ D (Trance and Jungle Factory, VORG), ATOMIC DJ (VORG, BASS Records), ALIAS (Question Mark Productions), SUPREME-C (VORG). $12. 415.750.3100 Friday, April 30th - The Colorblind Collective and Theatre Now! presents Honey Mike Wilson, Drone, Meadow, Hak, Siphon, Mark Clark, Pengo, Leath, A.L.E.R., Ikon, Amber, Jeph, Andy W, Joaqman, Ryan Christopher. Monterey Bay Location Free Fruit-Water, Free Chai Brought to you by Nub Chai. Even though this is a benefit for Theatre Now!, Tix are going to be be $10 so we can all spend the evening together as a cohesive family bonded by the love of music! Tickets are limited so get them early at Solid Grooves in San Jose. 9pm-7am, . 408.682.3500 Saturday, May 1st - l o v e w o r k s d a n c i n g presents a mayday birthday celebration for loveworks family member robnoxious for the love of may... deep grooves and sonic architecture: resident dj matt valenz, guardian: robnoxious, introducing dj iggy. btwn: 2nd / new mont. / mission . howard, s o m a these events are in partnership with the minna street gallery, now showing: l e n n i e m a c e ' s : 3 6 5 DAZE / ballpoint pen exhibit love / laughs / incense / flowers / candles / + the mightiest house music on earth. an audiosocial project implemented and monitored by the DDC. 9pm-. Minna Street Gallery, 111 minna street, SF. Saturday, May 1st - Blue Room First time U.S. Appearances - Techno/Trance Live acts from Germany and the UK, Montauk P. (Blue Room), Gabriel LeMar (Spirit Zone), Saffi Brothers (Blue Room), Rules of Hypothalamus (Blue Room), Techno/Trance DJ's:, Adam Ohana (Blue Room), Djaydee (Evolution/Gaia), San Francisco's Top and International Drum & Bass DJ's:, Siren (XLR8R/Bassment), Sage(Phunckateck), Double A & Twist (Dune Recordings Canada), Method One (Compound Records/Synthetics), Steven Tune(Nova Productions/Audible Colors), DownTempo Beats & Atmospheric Drum & Bassment DJ's:, Freaky Daum (Freaky Chakra) Kaos (Compound Records/Synthetics), Surreal (Blue Room), Anon (Blue Room). 21+ W/ID (please remember your ID's). Also Blue Room is planning an all ages event mid May Stay Tuned!!!) 10pm-7am, 21+. $15 @ the entry portal, $10 Before 11pm. 550 Barneveld, SF. 1.888.682.7666 Saturday, May 1st - Harmony productions and Harmonics Records presents ***DISCO BISCUITS*** (a theme in silver) Starring:, GREG SANDLER, ERIK BROWN, GIANNI, J-BOT, MAC, URN, Co-Starring:, RUSSEL G, SHOAM, R2 WITCO, ROACH, TOM-E, RANDOM. Free Glowsticks for people dressed in SILVER THEME! $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE to the BEST DRESSED DISCO KING AND QUEEN ***be there @ 1:30 am for the crowning of our Disco King and Queen!!! There are NO PRESALE tickets for this event. All tickets must be purchased at the map point which is Harmonics in Santa Rosa. We have a beautiful venue located in the North Bay and you don't want to miss this old school Disco style party!!! This is the first in a series of brand new Harmonics Records parties, so stay tuned... 408.486.9591 415.289.6788 Saturday, May 1st - Ghostribe Krew presents Acid Breaks 3: The 2 Year Anniversary, and 5 Year Ghostribe Reunion Mayday Celebration Ruff Beats, Breaks and Jungle! DJ STRYKE (Adrenalin Records Super Remixer and Producer), DJ GHOST and FRANK NITTY (Ghostribe Krew, on 4 turntables), MISS KNIGHT (Ghostribe Krew), JOEY MAZZOLA and DAVID GARCIA (House Nation, on 4 turntables), KWASHI and KEVIN KIND (on 4 turntables, Feel Good Family), TRIPNOTIX (Beat Down), RINSE and FLUX (B.A.S.S. Kru/Compound Records) , MC JAMALSKI (Ruff Neck/Reality, NYC), HAK and SIPHON (Urban Assault), JOSHUA JACOB (027), SIDEBURN SLIM (Diverse City), SPEK and DANJA (Ghostribe Krew), EVA (Raw Atmosphere), SAUCER and the Illustrious TOM KAT (Highlanders), RASTA CUE TIP (Brick, S.F.), T-SKI (M1 Productions), TOMMY MEYER, PHIL HOWARD. Complete with the original ::: Players Inc. Chill Zone ::: Sound by Xtreme Audio & Alien Nation Crew, Visuals by I-Candy, Lasers by UV-99, Lighting and Effects by Stim-U-Lights, Environment by Ghostribe Krew. ::: Limited, Discounted $20 Pre-Sale Tickets on sale now at ::: COMPOUND RECORDS, 6 Valencia St., SF, 415-864-8309, SOLID GROOVES, 2271 The Alameda, San Jose, 408-248-6399, MIXOLOGY, 1670 Mendocino Ave., Santa Rosa, 707-526-1230, ROCK ON, 1630 N. Texas St., Fairfield, 707-422-2080, TRANCE and JUNGLE FACTORY, 2575 Telegraph Ave., Berkeley, 510-704-9876, GHOSTRIBE, 2096 Merced St., San Leandro, 510-483-9862 or buy tickets online @ http://www.sfrecords.com Location: International 9PM-6AM, . Rave Center, 633 Hegenberger Road, Oakland. http://www.ghostribe.com Saturday, May 1st - Unit-E Tribe presents ENERGIZE randell (unit-e tribe / sac), wayne (unit-e tribe / field junkies), rick preston (glasgow underground rec/ san jose), tony (the gathering / moody rec / sf), sol (togetha / sac). 10pm-. sacramento. 916.810.4879 Saturday, May 1st - Radio-V.com presents May Day is Jay Day! Tom (Koinonea), Rob Rayle (Sacred Dance Society, Koinonea) , Tim (CCC). Join the Dance For Pot Party at the Million Marijuana March and Rally! Featuring: speakers, exhibits, live music, pot song-a-thon, Dance for Pot Party and the Pot Pride Parade at 4:20pm. Fun for all! Come out to San Francisco and dance for pot! Email High noon-5pm, . Civic Center Plaza, SF. http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm 415.971.3573 Saturday, May 1st - 420 Kidz presents Vibe Creation 2 Traxx (Chicago Soul Foundation), Justin Long (Chicago I.H.R.), Tyson Howell (Chicago 420 Kidz), Mike Dreben (Toronto Sonic Mind Record Live PA), Guido (L.A. Biohazard), Melanie (S.F. House Collective), Paucus (S.F 420 Kidz), Dj Alert (Iowa City Hoodlums U.S.A.), Mars vs. Mystre (S.F. F-8), Dyloot (S.F. skills), Happy Kid Marty vs. Happy Kid Ian (S.F. Happy Kids), Red Eyes (Chicago 420 Kidz) vs. Jeff Z (S.F. 420 Kidz), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Musik, SF/LA). 510.466.5695 415.364.1665 Sunday, May 2nd - Uniting Souls presents Sunshine Daydream... a daytime gathering "And as we let our own light shine...our presence automatically liberates others." - Nelson Mandela. TBA, 510.273.2493, Main Room: Special 4-hr set by Onionz and Joeski (NYC/Chocolate Factory), John Howard, Mark Farina (Om Records), Moses (SoundTextures), DJ Riddler (Housepitality), Adnan (Squeeze/Blue Room Nikita), Jungle Room: Arc Angel Gabe Real (PBS/Future Breaks crew), Abstract (Phunckateck), , Star Eyes (B.A.S.S. Kru), Tik-Tak (Ruffneck Reality), Miss E (Eklektic/Future Breaks FM 90.3), MC's Angel and Jamalski. Visuals by Spectrumega Media (L.A.). .2pm-2am, 21+, $15. $10 before 4 pm. 715 Harrison, SF. 415.273.5449 Wednesday, May 5th - FABULOUS FREAKY Art Show Opening A reception to meet the artists Alex Clausen and Sherry Koyama DJ Optimist spinning drum n bass.. In the Art Building at the UC Davis. Email 6pm-9pm, Free. Basement Gallery. 530.297.6163 Friday, May 7th - Torque Productions presents Progression 1)House/Breaks:, Thomas Michael (Phatt Phunk Records, Roofless Productions; LA), James Christian (Caffiene collective, Nervous, Strictly Rythem Records; NYC), Ty Tek (Teknight Records, Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident;Denver CO), Satori C (Humble Souls, M.E.S.S., Basic Entertainment, Torque, Resident; Denver, CO), Matty B (Housewares; SF), Chris K (Chicago), Seannie (Seattle), DJ Torque (Torque Resident; Denver), Drum and Bass:, Rinse (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF), Flux (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF) , Jamalski (Ruffneck Reality; N.Y.C.), Push (Future Breaks, 90.3FM; SF), Satori C (Denver, CO) , Kaya (Live techstep P.A.,Torque Resident; Connecticut), Eva (Raw Atmosphere; SF), DJ Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), Misc. B (Moist Crew; SF), Kunoichi (Moist Crew; SF). Limited Presale Tickets at $17.00 available @ Housewares, SF; Compound Records, SF; In tha Mix, Sac; Solid Grooves, San Jose. 415.345.9668 Saturday, May 8th - Skills presents a free party in Golden Gate Park Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars, Mystre, 510.869.4601. all day, music from 1pm-6pm, free. http://www.elemental.nu/skills 415.437.4460 Saturday, May 8th - Forward Motion Productions presents SPREAD THE WORD A small family gathering with your DJs Dutch, Josh Shwab, Kwashi, Miah, The Riddler, Micron, Joe-Joe, Ric V, Jeff Taisch, Vince, , Juggernaut(live PA), plus special guests. space limited to 300 people. Leave message on voice mail for carpooling information 5pm-8am, . $5 presale tix @ Daddys(berk), In tha Mix(sac), and online at sfrecords.com . http://www.sfrecords.com/spread 415.364.1407 Saturday, May 8th - ***VORG*** 3 ROOMS FILLED WITH:, JOHN KELLY (Funky Desert Breaks * Moonshine Records LA), ASTRAL MATRIX (o.o.b.e. Music SF) , TROY ROBERTS (Global Phases Seattle) , MARS & MYSTRE (Frequency 8) , JUSTIN HALE (Simply Cosmic) , THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory * VORG), GREG SANDLER (Harmony * VORG), DYLOOT (Skills * MHZ * HK), TOM SLIK (T&J Factory * Skills), J-BOT (Harmonics), GIANNI (Spundae * Harmonics), ZORAN (VORG), DJ D (T&J Factory * VORG), RYAN WILBER (NBC * Harmonics * VORG), ERIK BROWN (NBC * Harmonics), ATOMIC DJ (VORG * BASS Records) , DIVERSION (VORG) , ARIEL-CYBANA (VORG) , MERLYN (VORG). Pre-sale @ Harmonics 707.571.8747, T&J Factory 510.704.9876, f-8 415.221.4142, Group 3 - BASS Records 510.796.3570, Solid Grooves 408.248.6399, Music CD World 650.938.7555, Mixology 707.526.1230 - MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE TBA CALL OUR 24HR INFO LINE $20. 415.750.3100 Saturday, May 8th - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL: 2nd Period Two hour three deck set by Detroit's DJ BONE, Donald Glaude, Dj Pat, Tony, Onionz, Dan Isaac, Simon, Jesse Brooks, Jason Jinx. Presale tix available @ Primal, BPM, Clear, Solid Grooves 415.436.0714 Sunday, May 9th - Pulse Main Room DJ's:, Blackstone, Ellen, Front Room DJ's:, Trouble, Bud Chism, Chip McClure. A gay tribal fest with hot go-go boys and club kid dancers. A Primal Groove party! For more information, please e-mail: primalgrve@aol.com 3pm -11pm, . 2 guests for the price of 1 ($12/per couple) b/w 3 pm - 4:30 pm w/ flyer. $12 cover after 4:30. 1015 Folsom, SF. Wednesday, May 12nd - AUDIO PRESONIFICATIONS Esoteric research..... frisco d-formation news alert!!! LO-KI (One of the mad originators of konkrete jungle n.y.c.), EVA (representing housewares s.f. queen of the natural evolution of frisco drum n bass), DJ MASSIX (esoteric resident, massix's tactics are always, changing new direction). entrance : 339 Jesse St, SF. GET IN FOR FREE every Wednesday FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by going to : SPARK 601 Eddy St @ Larkin at the BACKFLIP 21+ $4 dollars featuring SAN FRANCISCO's downtempo , jungle, earth vibes party on TUESDAYS and getting tix here on dates tue:4/6, 4/13, 4/21 only. 9pm-4am, 18+. BIG HEART CITY, 836 mission st , SF. Friday, May 14th - Inertia Three rooms of sound:, Hip Hop w/, Wisdom, Raw-B, House + Trance w/, Joshua George, Dutch, Chill Lounge w/, Addy, Joshua, Jacob. Free after hours with admission. $10 Limited presales available at: Housewarez on Haight. Cocomo, 650 Indiana @ Mariposa, SF. Saturday, May 15th - CloudFactory Fashion Show. Keep your ears to the underground for more information..... This is the official date for the Cloudfactory Design Collective Fashion Show. The CFDC is throwing a fabulous multimedia extravaganza, intended to showcase the formidable breadth and depth of talent that lies within the Cloudfactory Collective. The fashion show will be held from 7-9pm. The reception/party will be held from 9pm-3am. Fully permitted San Francisco locale. 7pm-3am, . Pre-sale tickets will soon be available. Saturday, May 15th - First Light Collective presents First Light one year anniversary DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By UV99. This is a permitted Event. Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In the mix. 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763 Friday, May 21st - children of the sun presents and the journey continues.. Brad (Moontribe/LA), Beatseed (Journees/Seattle), Greg Sandler (harmony), andyW (viberation), Micron (viberation), Macadio (First Light) . As Always Free Fruit & Lemonade - Limited Capacity - Presale Tix Strongly Advised. We Love You All / Spread The Warmth. 415.835.3144 Friday, May 21st - Silly and XLR8R Magazine. presents MAZE Adam X (Sonic Groove, NY), D.A.V.E. the Drummer (Live, Liberator Crew, UK), Maya 13/Deaks, Henrik Rosdahl, Mystrë, Charlotte the Baroness, Push, Justi. 10pm-6am, $10. free b4 10:30. 550 Barneveld St., SF. 415.263.6750 Friday, May 21st - TOONS Quiet House Productions presents ETERNAL PARADISE freaky attire suggested REMEDY dmc finalist/B92.9/FM90.5, JV VALASCO da Roc entert., DJ PAPI groove night, club - NOTORIOUS NORM City nights guest DJ - DJ CASUAL Rebel entert., DJ HEEBEE Club X guest DJ. US Dream Girls oil wrestle live on stage! Hard Body contest! FSA dance squad presents Haluan live on stage! It's also the beads night! 4 Go-Go cages, 2 stages. $170 thousand dollars worth of sound and lights including lasers. ALL AGES room &18+ room Fully stocked bar for those who are 21+. $15. 837.429.7779 415.271-6101 Saturday, May 22nd - l o v e w o r k s d a n c i n g presents " nature, rhythm, cloud, and sky " [ a celebration of the continuous beat of life ] for the love of may... featuring guest dj arkay performing an extended opening set, deep grooves and sonic architecture: resident dj matt valenz, guardian: robnoxious. btwn: 2nd / new mont. / mission . howard, s o m a these events are in partnership with the minna street gallery, now showing: l e n n i e m a c e ' s : 3 6 5 DAZE / ballpoint pen exhibit love / laughs / incense / flowers / candles / + the mightiest house music on earth. an audiosocial project implemented and monitored by the DDC. 9pm -. Minna Street Gallery, 111 minna street , SF . Saturday, May 22nd - We Got The Funk Bone (Detriot), Dj Dan (SF), Charles Feelgood (MD), Onionz (NY), Tony, Simon, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Dee, The Hitmen, Jonene (Stompy), many more to be annouced. Live: ETI. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 22nd - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL: 2nd Period Dan, DJ BONE, Dj Pat, Charles Feelgood , Tony, Simon, Jesse Brooks, Onionz. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 22nd - Trance & Jungle Factory presents Trance and Jungle Factory 2 year anniversary TBA. Watching this space. Friday, May 28th - Star*burst Productions presents Star*burst Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony/Harmonics), Joe Lanzon (Bagok Tribe), Jeyson (Davis Funky Family), Dragn'fly (Epiphany), Hoth (Positive Theory). 100% fully permitted new Sacramento location. Proceeds to benefit the Sacramento Food Bank. Presale Tickets can be purchased @ In Tha Mix and Imagine Music in Sac. and Primal in Berzerkeley... $5 w/ a canned food item, $7 w/o. 916.815.4337 Friday, May 28th - May 31st - Lightseed Collective presents Butterfly A Lightseed Campout in praise of Julia Butterfly Hill in honor of Luna More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Saturday, May 29th - NOMAD INTERACTIVE presents ORIGIN-MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND GATHERING. MORE TBA.. 415.675.5605 510.433.9933 408.278.5553 916.554.0554 Saturday, May 29th - Clockwork Eventz presents METROPOLIS 7 Underground dance districts of diversity METRODOME:, Donald Glaude, Terry Mullan, DJ Rktech, Hipp-E,, Jeno, Tony, The ELECTRIC KINGDOM:, Charlotte The Baroness, DJ Liquid, DJ Ghost, Miss Knight, J-Boogie, Deep in the GARNET KONKRETE JUNGLE:, R.A.W. w/ MC?, Rinse & Flux w/MC Jamalski, U.F.O., Aaron V., DJ Dose, The Infamous Highlanders, FUNKYTOWN: Funky Beat's 4 yr anniversary:, Simon, DJ Doubt, DJ Matthew, Paucus, David vs.Joey Mazzola on 4, Jasen C., SECTOR 2:, Jon Williams, DRC, Chris Jackson, St. John, J-Bot, Charly Fusion, DJ Xolotyl, The Comfort, Room:, Deepfrog, Boomerang, Triad, Reggae Lounge: come hang and feel da Irie vibes inside our reggae lounge. Prepare for the awakening!!! A night of bad ass talent, mixing through the most intense beats to date!!! A night of explosive performances, that will push the boundaries of the underground mentality!!! A night that will be out of control, filled with the amazement of an interactive multimedia extravaganza. LUMATECH lighting will be throwing down the fattest lighting show that nobody has ever seen before!! The Royal Rumble: mark wayne,jk sound,xtreme audio We will also be celebrating Funky Beats 4 year anniversary!!! HIEROGLYPHICS,THE PHARCYDE. Live p.a. Sound Of Light. 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Sunday, May 30th - EUROTIKA 3 Biohazard productions-L.A..(GABE &THEE-O), F-8-S.F.(MYSTRE), ANTHONY S(THE TRIBE), D!ZZ!(Fresno). . Modesto Centre Plaza,, Modesto. 209.236.6846 415.221.4142 Saturday, June 5th - GoodeTyme Entertainment presents AMNESIA GoodeTyme Entertainment bring to you a Music lovers delight with reowned DJ's as follows: ONIONZ (ELECTRIC SOUL/Imperial Dub/Chocolate Factory- NYC), DORAN (Fragrant Music/RAM), JIM HOPKINS (Twitch/V-Wax/ELECTROLINERS,-SF), TONY (The Gatherings, SF), HAPPY KID MARTY (Happy Kids- SF), DJ TECHNIQUE (CLOCKWORK DJ's/Journeez Music), Homero X-Pinosa (GoodeTyme DJ's), Pistachio + Aonymous(Math Sound Workshop), Tracy (Sister/Daddy's Records), Jesse (the crate). Fully permitted and secure venue with over 40,000 square feet. 2 rooms +1 outside area. $15. pre-sale or $20.00 @ door . Saturday, June 5th - E.T.A. presents Monument to Eternity A Hard Trance Rising Event Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer, Dyloot, Depth, DJ D. This is a limited capacity, pre-sale only event. For more information please call our voice mail. 415.364.1803 Saturday, June 5th - The Unity Vibe Tribe presents GENERATION X Dj line up soon to be posted..... For more imformation please call: 408.271.6900 650.361.0950 Friday, June 11st - VORG presents BREATHE A very special party at a once again brand spankin', fresh, new location!!! More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, June 12nd - Silver Pearl Records presents QUEST Summer Solstice Guiding your Quest from dusk 'til dawn on 4 thumping sound systems with DJS: Jeno (Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum, LA), Barry Weaver (Funky Techno Tribe, Seattle), Astral Matrix (O.O.B.E. Music, SF), Jason Blakemore (Life Music, Aquarium, aka DJ Trance, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Donald Glaude (Funky Teckno Tribe, Seattle), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), MODA (Trancefusion Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, Philadelphia), Rinse & Flux with MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru and Compound Records, SF), R.A.W. (Mictlan Recordings, LA), NMAN (Biofonik and Silver Pearl, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Incredible Ambient Chamber with:, B))merang and Triad, Many more to be announced.. As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available May 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8, San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com. http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, June 12nd - Skills invites all a smiling to A STARRY NIGHT presents ELEKTRO-TEKNO-DISKO-POPSIKLE - Summertime Flavors With very special guests from L.A., Thomas MIchael, Thee-O, Demigod, Plus all your favorite local DJ's -, Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley, Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer & Telene, Prophet, Happy Kid Marty & Happy Kid Ian.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Friday, June 18th - OPEN HOUSE presents Strictly Underground w/ your Open House Supastars: Serendipity, Unity, Styven & Scott Bliss, along with Guest Djs:, Evillyn (blessing us with her presence all the way from HAWAII), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Jason (Unite Prod.), Ryan Christopher, Levi, Secret Squirrel, Pengo, Gilad (5D), DevDawg (Roswell/McDonald Foundation), LadyJane tha' pimptress, Aspect(I.B.S), and more TBA. For presale tickets, call the voicemail # or send an email to: openhousecrew@yahoo.com Much love to all! First come first serve. THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT!!!! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!! Limited capacity, 225 presale tickets only , SF location. SF. 510.288.7676 Friday, June 18th - Counterpoint Productions presents Commence More TBA, Housewaves and Trancefrequencies by BARRY WEAVER (Funky Techno Tribe, LA), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory, SF), TONY (The Gathering, SF), RIG-A-TONY (Sagitariun), TYLER (Counterpoint), DENNIS (THC), DJ SCOTT (Kick Drum), SCI FI, DAVID, DJ GLOW. LASERS by HOLLYWOOD DOG, THUNDERING SOUND by COMMUNITY, FREE FRUIT and CANDY, 2 ROOMS. 9pm-6am, All ages. $12 w/ canned food $15 w/ out. Sacramento. http://counterpoint.sacone.com 916.783.9948 916.866.3266 Saturday, June 19th - FREQUENCY 8 4 year Anniversary Celebration Summer Solstice Campout Weekend Stay Tuned In.. Saturday June 19th- Sunday 20th. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Special Secret Surprise Summer Solstice Celebration More information to follow. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Sunday, June 20th - Hi Rise productions and Existential Sounds presents Backflip 2 year anniversary - Love and War Garth (Wicked), Jone`ne` (Stompy Hi-Fi), Markie (Wicked), Tasho (Stompy Hi-Fi), Jeno (Wicked), Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Moses (Sunshine Daydream), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls), fabuLizz (Uniting Souls), Seven (Hi Rise), Sol (Hi Rise), Michael Tello (Housepitality), Dave Chapman (Legion of Funk), Peterbilt (Hi Rise), Jason Henry (Legion of Funk), Push (Future Breaks), Miss E (Eklectik), PBS crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, NoBattles, and Mateo), Jin (HiRise), Le'Le' (Legion of Funk). Tickets will go on sale Saturday, April 24 at local record stores: Tweekin Records, Housewares, Clear Records, Big Daddy's (Berkeley), and Primal Records (Berkeley). With food and festivities both indoors and by the pool. 12 pm-2am, . $10 in advance and $15 at the door. . Thursday, June 24th - XTORT Productions presents AMOEBA Featuring Special Guest DJ:, SIMON APEX (SSU), Sascha23 (Xtort), dB (Xtort), Glow (Xtort), Dj Chad (Xtort/Alpha Zone). DIRECTIONS: Take I-80 east toward Reno, exit right on Madison, left of Auburn, right on Garfield. Turn left into first parking lot; building in back. Come early to beat the rush and walk away with FREE stuff to the first 50 people from various record labels. 9pm-All ages. TICKETS: $8 at the door all night (come early to guarantee entry:). . http://home.earthlink.net/~sascha23 916.334.6200 Saturday, June 26th - The müvmental Collective presents Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Juan Atkins, DRC, Jeff Samuel, DJ Chaordic, DJ Dishboy, Sleepy C, Rinse & Flux w/ MC Jamalski, DJ Ghost, Smallz & 7UP. SF. 415.789.7366 Saturday, June 26th - Harmony More information TBA. Friday, July 2nd - T r a n q u i l i t y presents WELCOME TO TRANQUILITY An out door underground event pushing the power of trance. Alias (Tranquility, Question Mark Productions), Mystre (F-8), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Telene, Merlyn (V.O.R.G.). 200 limited $10 pre-sales ONLY. 415.435.7567 Sunday, July 3rd - July 4th - 8TH ANNUAL FREEDOM FESTIVAL Line-up T.B.A.. Flyers out soon. 415.905.8888 Friday, July 9th - children of the sun presents Sunshine Of Your Love a summertime celebration of love, life, and happiness... 415.835.3144 Saturday, July 10th - Forever Young Robbie Long vs. Devestate (Next Generation, UK) Happy Hardcore FIRST U.S APPEARANCE!!, SIMON APEX (Alpha Magic, UK) vs. DJ NIMH (Happy 4 Beats, Phoenix AZ), ANDY vs. B2B JOSH (Sac.), APOLLO SMILE (Forever Young, Sac.), DJ HERETIC (119 Crew, LA) vs. RIFF (Sac.) Jump up Jungle, DEMIGOD (Industrial Strength, LA) DUTCH (Happy Gabber), RON D. CORE (Freeclouds Mixinglab, LA) Terrorcore, IMIX (Navigator, Sac.) Live P.A Speed Garage, MOE (Sac.), RICKY RICARDO (Loolipop, Chico), JASON-WHO (Fuzze, Sac.), BLAKE (N.B.C), TANK (Sac.). All night, free fruit, free water, and free stuff for early birds. Please come with your open minds, smiles, and get ready to dance! *limited Presale at Subsonic Underground Record Store, Sac. 9pm-8am, $15. Sacramento. 916.603.2866 Saturday, July 10th - 6 in da mornin productions presents Ground Zero 4: Judgement Night - The Final Chapter (6AM 3 Year Anniversary) TBA. World Class dj lineup and live acts to be unveiled on Saturday, April 3rd 1999. Promoters and vendors please contact 6AM on the industry line (800) 683-4569. Except no imitations. 415.995.1940 Saturday, July 17th - INNER EYE presents oOo AREA 51 oOo ((((((CONTACT)))))) TBA. We are organizing this event to be the most epic event of the summer... Top secret information will be released on May 1st, until then all info is CLASSIFIED... Stay tuned in... Saturday, July 17th - TRANCE AND JUNGLE FACTORY presents Man in the Moon Reunited Thomas Trouble, Dj D, Eric Spire, Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Tom Slik. Please check back soon for a huge line-up. Capacity is limited 2000 people, so please purchase your pre-sale tickets early. 415.248.2669 Friday, July 23rd - Megahertz presents 80MHz Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/80MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, July 24th - @spire 2 years in the making... TBA. We're back... Tell a friend! More information coming soon! 415.273.5513 Saturday, July 31st - space children's juggernautfestival Cesar, Twerk, Gerg Sandler, Mars, MystrE, Noel, UFO, Dutch, Cosmic Selector X Buna, Plus Many Many More To Be Announced. Live: Miah (Live pa). 415.272.1622 Saturday, July 31st - Mytical Mayhem Productions presents Serenity Doran (Rampant Records, Hook Recordings, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony & Harmonics, SF), Moshe (SF), MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru, SF), Gianni (Release, SF), Kevin Kind & Kwashi (FGE, SF), and many more to be announced.. Stay tuned for more information.... For information please call 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, July 31st - Full Circle Reunion - TechNique James Christian (NYC), Vicious Vic (NYC), Tony, Garth, Simon, DJ Matthew, with more T.B.A.. More info on the way! Sunday, August 1st - Existential Sounds presents... presents Birth...a celebration of Life. Garth (Wicked), Markie (Wicked), John Howard (Heavy Rotation), Chang (Simons, Gainesville, FL), Three (Hallucinations Records, Tampa, FL), Brian Busto (The Rubb, Tampa, FL), and more TBA. . An indoor/outdoor event featuring an art show. (between Potrero and Utah) Art show from 3PM-8PM. Music from 2PM-2AM. Tickets available May 31, 1999. Buses to the location: 33 Stanyan 22 Fillmore 9 San Bruno. email: avatarz@earthlink.net avatarz@earthlink.net or salivatethurs@hotmail.com Tickets available at Tweekin' Records, Housewares, Big Daddys (Berkley), and Primal Records (Berkley). Free before 4 pm, $8 in advance, $15 at the door. . IL Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415-626-2626. Friday, August 6th - Purity of Essence Mars, Mystre, Uphonic, Dutch, Dyloot, Tracer, more to come. Saturday, August 7th - Native Vision Productions presents The Prophesee DJ LINE UP & MORE INFO TO FOLLOW IN JUNE . We Invite you to celebrate the remembrance of the Prophecy that made the world what it is today. The Prophecy goes like this: In the beginning we sat in a circle to share and remand as one with each other and Mother Earth, then the creator came down and split us up in to the red, white, yellow, and black we were all to accomplish a certain number of things then come back into the circle and share. We need to remember the root of it all. So we the people for the Earth can live. http://www.globalparty.com/nvp/ 415.281.0777 Sunday, August 8th - 3horsemen Productions presents DAISY Thomas Trouble, D.J. D, Simon, Greg Sandler, Elias Smith, J-BOT.. A party with real heart. It's Daisy's birthday and she wants to see all those happy party friends of hers there. Join us in S.F. because the weekend is not over till it's over. With free snacks at 5PM and a hunken big cake at 6PM. We are all one big family kids so join us in celebrating Daisy's birthday and if your birthday is this weekend you get in free. Party is limited to 650 pre-sale tickets. At the door admittance as space becomes available. Get your $15 pre-sales at: Harmonics(Santa Rosa), Frequency 8(San Francisco),T&J Factory(Berkeley)"HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAISY" 4pm-4am, . http://www.3horsemen.com 415.721.3929 Friday, August 13rd - August 15th - Camp Harmony TBA. All weekend camping celebration!!! More information TBA. Saturday, August 14th - CLOCKWORK EVENTZ presents STARZ TBA.. Live: Long Beach Dub All-Stars.. CLOCKWORK EVENTZ invites you to come dance under the... STARZ Superstar talent to be announced!!! This will be held at a wonderful outdoor location. Much more info in the future....... 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Saturday, August 21st - FREQUENCY 8 Cybertrance Communication Stay Tuned In.. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Friday, August 27th - August 28th - VORG presents A SPECIAL 2-DAY LAKESIDE CAMPOUT with amazing European live-performers. More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, September 4th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Megga-Buzz 4-U The 4th Annual Labor Day 3-Day Holiday Weekend PLURity Vibe-Fest! The Premier of local DJ Showcase. Buzz Line Birthday party celebration event. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Saturday, September 11st - EarCandy Two - Our One Year Celebration TBA, Mars, Mystre, Dutch, Uphonic, Tracer, Micron, Dyloot, Happy Kid Ian, , and more TBA :). 415.281.8384 Saturday, September 11st - E.T.A. presents The Red Shift Info T.B.A.. Friday, September 17th - Megahertz presents 100MHz Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith, Dyloot, Special Guests.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/100MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, September 18th - ASR 2 Year Anniversary Three room's of superb DJ's TBA..... This event will be in celebration of ASR's two year anniversary, therefore ASR will go back to it's roots, the Monterey Bay. Saturday, September 18th - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, September 25th - Harmony Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration!!! TBA. More Information TBA Saturday, October 9th - Skills trance room:, Dyloot & Tom Slik, Radley Marx, Mars & Mystre, Thomas Trouble, Happy Kids Ian & Marty, hardcore/happyhardcore room: From L.A.- , Ron D. Core, Demigod, Paulina Taylor, Plus locals - , Aspect, Simon Apex, Uphonic. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, November 6th - Harmony TBA. More information TBA. Saturday, November 13rd - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest 2 Year Anniversary TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, November 27th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The Spirit of Giving The 3rd Annual Thanksgiving 4-day Holiday Weekend Plurity Vibe-fest Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/jungle/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Friday The Bassment - Bringing in Top SF and International Drum & Bass Talent every week.... w/DJ TBA.. 11pm-3am, $10. Get a Bassment Flyer, bring it and avoid the lines(via vip line) & get a $2 discount before 12am. In the Bassment of 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. [4.16 - Sine (Platnium/Bulletproof, Philly), Kayar (Nikita)] [4.23 - Footloose (Juice & Splash Recs. UK), Flux (Compound Records/BASS Kru)] [4.30 - Double A & Twist (Dune Recordings, CAN), KAOS (Compound Records/Synthetics)] EARTH - Ellen Ferrato, Mouse, KJ, Damon, Jeff. Every First Friday of the month EARTH bus $1. $15. $8 before 11, Free with non-U.S. passport. . 550 Barneveld. 415.705.0585. LIFE - Life SUCKS, and then theres Friday! w/DJ Mark Farina. Cross streeet: 4th. VIP Lounge and Oyster Bar. 10pm-, 21+, $10. Big Heart City, 836 Mission. Empire - DJ Party Ben. Empire, SF's own big-beat boutique At the corner of Third. Dj Party Ben, best known for his party reports on subsonic, will spin the sounds of Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, Roni Size Reprazent, Prodigy and more. empire will also occasionally feature guest appearances from world renowned DJs. 9pm-2am., . Manhattan Lounge, 699 Market Street, SF. Dance Spirit - Leslie Shill. every first and third Friday evenings in april. $10. Nautilus Health Club, 4th street, San Rafael. Nikita - house, techno w/DJs Simon (Resident), Jeno (Resident), Jerry Bonham (Resident), Kayar (Resident for the drum & bassment), Kaos (Resident for the drum & bassment), Flux (Resident for the drum & bassment), Rinse (Resident for the drum & bassment). Broadcast live on the net at www.1015.com. Downstairs, Sticks and Stones- provacateurs of Bass present Drum + Bass with Resident Dj Kayar 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. Free before 10:30 PM. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.com 415.267.0568 RoaM - an evening of sophisticated deep house... w/DJs Chad Mitchell, JP Soul, Dan Smith. 21+, Free. Liquid, 2925 16th St, SF. 415.289.6833 Stir-Fri-Day - happy-hour eclectic grooves served up by resident beat chefs w/DJs Jason Fluid, Shaolin, Maneesh the Twister, Plus weekly guests. 5pm-9pm, 21+. Minna St Gallery, 111 Minna St, SF. 0 415.974.1719 Bohemian Lounge - Intergalactic Funk Collages w/DJs Toph2000, rotating guests Pollywog, Manny Rosa, Charlotte the Baroness, Consuelo (Kevin). 9ish-2am, 21+, Free. the gorgeously restored McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @ 19th, SF. 415.332.5800x211 (redwine) Melon - house w/DJs Dano, JZ, guests. First Friday of each month in the blue Room @ Nikita. 11pm-5am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.redmelon.com 415.561.9215 Angel - house, tribal house, funk, modern rock, trance, progressive house, deep house, house, trip hob, soul, beats w/DJs Harry Who?, Rick Preston, Guests djs. 6 Artistic Rooms featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Soul Classics, beats Modern Rock, Trance, Progressive House, deep House and House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $10. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0328 The Davis Family Happy Hour - Local Dj Superstars, The Davis-get-down-funky-like-that-crew. Your favorite brews on tap. 3pm-7pm, 18+, Free. UCD Silo Pub, Hutchinson Drive, Davis. http://www.geocities.com/Hotsprings/Falls/2500 Launch - It'll give sump'din foer da yung;unz to doc. w/DJs Resident Djs:, BombRocker (Pure Tryb, WC), Phil-e-Cheez (Walnut Creek), Weekly guests. 18 & under (if you can pass for under 18). House, Trance, Breaks, Jungle. 7:30pm-11:00pm, 18+, Free. Walnut Creek Civic Center, Civic Park, Walnut Creek. Saturday Tek-No-Bas - techno, jungle w/DJs Stealth, Danger. Expect to hear jungle, drum and base, and techno both Detroit and European. 9pm-2am, 21+. $5 cover from 10-2. Club 1028, 1028 Geary St., SF. Pablos Sugar Shack - Pablo's Resident DJs:, John Howard, Norman Stradley, Jellybear, Miguel Migs, Rasoul, Romanowski. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. http://www.pablos.com [4.10 - Ellen Ferrato, Miss Megan] [4.17 - Jellybear, Nobel] [4.24 - Alain de Corazon, Mauricio] Other Whirled - House, Techno w/DJs Nobel, Vince, Christine, Daniel, Henrik, guests. saturday morning 5:30am-3pm, 21+. the EndUp, 6th Street @ Harrison, SF. 415.208.7665 Release - House, techno, jungle, funk, trip hop, disco w/DJs Doc Martin (1st Saturday each month), Marques Wyatt (2nd Saturday), Deep Dish (3rd Saturday), Terence Toy, Julius Papp, Behrouz, Tom Thump, Ellen Ferrato, Norm, Thomas Roberts, BB Hayes, Jason Edwards, Anthony Scott, Jerry Ross, Eric Lacy, Atom, DJ D, Gianni, special guests, Martin, Bruce, DeMilo. 10pm-9am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.sfstation.com/clubs/release.htm 415.281.0823 [4.17 - Deep Dish in the main room and David Alvarado in the VIP room] [5.1 - Garth in the main room] [5.8 - Marques Wyatt and Ricky Morrison] [5.15 - Deep Dish] [5.29 - Farley & Heller begin their Mixer Magazine Tour] [6.12 - Marques Wyatt and Erick Morrillo] [6.19 - Deep Dish] [6.26 - CJ McIntosh] La Belle Epoque - 21st Century Drum n' Space w/DJs Mike Bee, Wish FM, Sea, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Carry On - Underground house and garage music. w/DJ Mauricio Aviles. Cross Street: Howard. 10:30pm-4am, 21+, $8. Club Asia, 201 9th St., SF. Club Universe - Funk, House, High energy dance. w/DJ Special Guests and artists every week. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. free b4 11pm. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.289.6650 FreeStyle - House and Funk w/DJs Christopher (Resident), Weekly Guests. Hosted by Mizz Ana Maronic. 21+, $5. free before 11pm. 399 9th St., SF. PUSH - house w/DJs your pushers, mouse, travis, chris orr. Matt valenz creates sonic sculpture for the dancefloor through the mediums of hi-tech deep house and technofunk. A popular underground affair attended by the city's most adventurous party people... this AIN'T the sound factory. Between Market and Mission. 9pm-2am, 21+, $7. Jessy Alley, SF. [4.17 - dj thomas (wicked)] Plush - house, techno, trance, funk, trip hop, soul, beats, 70's w/DJs Resident Djs:, Thayton, Johnny, Julius Papp, Gianni (San Francisco), Scott DC (San Francisco), BBHayes, Guest from the bay area and around the world. Visuals by Jose G. Museo Contempo.Martini Bar on the Patio. Featuring the best Gin and Vodkas. Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. No cover before 9:30pm. 4 Dance Areas featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Sould Classics, beats, 70's House, Trance Progressive House and Deep House. 21+, $10. Free before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0238 Tricorder - downtempo, hiphop, electro, breakbeat w/ w/DJs marlo, monkey, flint, special guests.. Teetotling our way through the classics you've never heard it before. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday Located on 24th between Mission and Valencia. 9pm-2am, 21+, $1. 1, 3336 24th Street, SF. http://www.shooby.com/tricorder Wicked Session One - drumnbass, ambient, hiphop w/DJs Sep (turntables), Stephen Kent (digeridoo), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Echo. "Wicked Session One" is the first in a series of upcoming nights in 1999 featuring acoustic and electronic musicians and DJS exploring the connection betwen dub, drum& bass, hip hop and ambient music. $6. Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, SF. Orbit - deep, funky, groovy house, techno and abstract beats for your feet w/DJs Phano, Be, d.jaymz, guests. full bar. 9:30pm-2:00am, 21+, Free. Cosmos, 2730 21st @ Bryant, SF. 415.282.9926 Flikker - house w/DJs Rotating residents, Jus' Joel, dj d-paul, lee., Plus special guests.. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. free before 10pm. Sacrifice, 800 South Van Ness @ 19th, SF. [4.17 - dj. taj (waller street boys) - fubari - dj. patrick] [4.24 - e.b.e. - arturo (amigo) - dave chapman (gravity point)] Sunday Return of the B-Sides - Solomon. We're playing hiphop, funk, soul, and dancehall. Shattuck Bar and Grill, 2086 Allston @ shattuck, Berkeley. 510.845.7300 [4.21 - True Justice] [4.28 - Algebra] Spundae - House, Techno w/DJs Carlos, David Michael, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For 02.14.99 - 6 Year Anniversary Party! 5 elements giving you 11 decor by Ashley. 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.net 415.974.9389 Leopard Lounge - Acid Jazz, Funk, Soul, Pop & Live Bands. w/DJs Jerry Ross, guests. The Hi-Fi, 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 Pleasuredome - Funk, House w/DJs Neil Lewis, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Dub Mission - SF's only dub night. The best in dubs and roots every Sunday. w/DJs I, Maneesh the Twister, Vinnie, Sep (kusf/kpfa), J.Boogie ("Beatsauce"), Ludichris, other suprises. Contact 647 Valencia @ 17th, mission. http://www.geocities.com/~dub_mission/ 415.552.7788 [4.18 - DJs SEP & VINNIE] [4.25 - DJs J.BOOGIE and LUDICHRIS] [5.2 - MANEESH the TWISTER VS. WASTEMASTER Soundclash] The Cafe - house w/DJs Mathew Baker, Jay-R. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF . 415.861.3846 Liquid Sundays - Beetroot, quest djs. 21+. Liquid, 2925-16th St @ S.Van Ness, SF. Milk & Honey - acid jazz, house w/DJs Mei-Lwun (Soulstice), Andy Caldwell (Soulstice), Rotating Guests: Mark Farina (mushroom jazz), Toph-One (abstract science), Felix da Dog (black diamond). Call to get listed. 10pm-???, 21+, $5. free before 10pm. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. 415.607.2290 Cosmic Hands - drum n bass, techno, house w/DJs chris jackson, nada, leath, tomas, jaz, hak, toby, paul leath. . This is a free party which happens on the first sunday of every month. Begins 2.07.99 9pm-2am, Free. Waves, 65 Post St, SJ. Monday Movin on Up - It's a vibratory thang w/DJs marc anthony, kevin, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. Noc Noc - Drum'n'bass, downtempo and electronica w/DJ Mohsen. every other Monday. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. 557 Haight St, SF. 415.861.5811 Density - 98% Concentrated Urban Beats saturated with Drum & Bass Deconstructions w/DJs Al Simmons, Noel, J Boogie, Aural B (Sharpshooter), guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. the Justice League, 628 Divisadero, SF. 415.440.0409 Monday Mood Lounge - Happy Hour Downtempo to Drum and Bass w/DJs Triadessa, guests. 4pm-, 21+, Free. 406 Clement St, SF. HouseBlends - a special brew of house w/DJs a special brew of house w/DJs, Mes, Bloom, Tune, Neil, Abdul, Conrad, Friends (Weekly Rotation). Free before 10pm. Spend Happy Hour with HouseBlends (7pm-10pm). 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lounge/6072/ 925.988.7447 415.273.1308 Tuesday PHUNCKTION - Drum & Bass in motion w/DJs Residents: , Noel, JUJU, plus special guest TBA. Every tues. begining April 5th, 1999 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. THE TOP, 424 Haight St, SF. http://www.sfdb.com/ 415.789.8000 x1147 Pleasure - Residents, B.B. Hayes, Mark Silva, Matt Mau, plus weekly guest djs.. Real house music for real house heads...come into San Jose and get that SF feel. 9:30pm-2am, 21+. Free before 10:30...5 bills after.. Agenda Lounge, 399 South First Street, San Jose. Pure - house w/DJs Brian Brandon, guests. 9pm-, 18+. The Rage, 1890 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.929.0232 Static - Techno, Drum & Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental.... w/DJs Dj Sifu (Resident), Joe Rice (Justice League Sound System), Tomas (Umoja), J-Bird (Sunset/Pacific), Bre Ad, Sutekh, Re Ach, Quantum 23, Tomas, Sifu, J-Bird, Safety, Scissors, Sean Murray, guests. Static offers musical alternatives to listeners and dancers who are tired of ravers, New Age missionaries and club culture, in general. Admission is $5 (21 and over, please). Come check out the two, newly fattened sound systems. 10pm-2am, $5. The Cat's Club, 1190 Folsom St, SF. http://www.belief-systems.com/static 510-496.3444 Spark - drum'n'bass, downtempo, jazzstep w/DJs Seven, Sol, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin, SF. 415.771.3547 [4.20 - Arc Angel Gabereal (Future Breaks)] [4.27 - Push] [5.4 - Tom Thump (Groove Merchant, Twice as Nice)] [5.11 - Siren (Bassment, XLR8R), Ava (Housewares)] Spin Cycle - music of all types w/DJ guests weekly. 7:30p-midnight, All ages. CSUMB's Black Box Cabaret. http://www.cloudfactory.org/upcoming.html 831.457.7726 [4.20 - Swoops (CF) and Cloud (CF)] [4.27 - Hoss and Tim Gotch (CF)] Tuesday nights at the Agenda - guest djs. upstairs at the agenda 21+. $5.00 after 10:30. 399 south first street, San Jose. Jive Samba - Josh Jones, Latin Jazz All Stars (Live), Chris (Electronic flavor with drum and bass), jazzy jungle. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. 21+, $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Core - drum & bass and beyond... w/DJs jefsta, cera, weekly guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Liquid, 2925 16th Street @ S. Van Ness, SF. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~mkello01/core.html 415.790.4974 Wednesday SYNESTHESIA - Resident Djs, DUTCH, JEFF TAISCH. . - All welcome - 300 capacity - @ 19th St. One block from the 19th/Broadway BART station. 9pm-2am, All ages. $8/door-$5 w/can of food for The Floral Depot Project.. 1921 Telegraph Av., Oakland. 510.595.5555 415.339.8082 [4.21 - ANDRE LUCERO, ANON, DUTCH] [4.28 - DRC, KJ, ICON] [5.1 - May line-up T.B.A.] BassTrap - house, elctro, jungle, breaks - anya, cloud, swoops, thebasstrapallstars. Third wednesday of every month. Get the digs at BassTrap. 9pm-2am, 21+. http://www.3d-dynamic.com/basstrap/basstrap.html 707.524.9804 PURIFIDE - on the first wednesday of every month - tech house tekno progressive trance w/DJs resident djs:, J-Bot, Gianni, M.A.C., Cloud. 9pm-2am, 21+. Anthony's, 53 Montgomery Drive, Santa Rosa. http://www.greenfieldgraphix.com/purifide.html 707.571.8747 @mosphere - Josh (The Gathering, Conscious Session), Fabulizz (Progress, Silky, Conscious Session), Seven (Spark, Hi-Rise), Jason Greer (Spark), Andre. Cross Street:Fillmore. We mix up downtempo, drum-n-bass and house. Finally, good music in the Marina! Yuppies and scenesters unite! 21+, $3. Hi-Fi Lounge, 2125 Lombard. Sol (Spark) [4.30 -] [4.30 -] [4.30 -] DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544 [4.21 - Solar ] [4.28 - Rob Doten] Come Unity - House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth, and Cosmic Jason (every other month). first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $8. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 Audio Alchemy - jazz, hip hop, drum & bass, latin, futuristic beats w/DJs Groove Merchant DJs, Tom Thump, Cool Chris. 7pm-, 21+. Liquid, 2925 16th St @ So.Van Ness, SF. qoöl - a pan-techno lounge w/DJs Spesh, Gil, Hyper D, top notch guests. Visuals by Hyperdelic.qoöl is now in it's 3rd year of celebrating dj culture at happy hour. each wednesday we gather to hear no less than 4 djs pump nothing but the qoöl est techno. in 1999, we hope to bring you more of the same awesome vibe, more superskilled spinners, more visual artistry, and more great tasting beer! lastly, qoöl will remain free in 1999 - w/ qoöl card 5pm-9pm, Free. 111 Minna St, SF. http://www.looq.com/qool Audible Colors - house, jungle, techno w/DJ guests weekly. 21+, $3. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. 415.522.2343 Seance - Its a spiritual thang w/DJs local guests weekly, DJs Martel, Nabiel, Franky. Tarot readers, belly dancers, henna tattoo artists and authentic egyptian tapestries. Séance is an ethereal alternative with belly dancers, Tarot Card Readers and Henna tattoo artists. For dinner reservations call 771-3547. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy @ Polk, SF. http://sfstation.com/clubs/seance.htm 415.281.0823 Wednesdays at Club Ecco - house, techno, trance w/DJs Danny (Resident), Ellen Ferrato, David Harness, Blackstone, Pete Avila. Wednesday is a fantastic gay club night at Club Ecco. All the great house hits hits in the San Pedro Room. Door s open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 5pm-, 21+, $5. No cover before 9:30. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.947.1667 Dubphonik - Mr. Brown. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Thursday the insight series - insight shows are about live electronic music that pushes the boundaries of the way we think about music w/DJs sean copper, eric hill. (*) EVERY THIRD THURSDAY of the month performances will start sometime shortly after 10pm. 9pm-, 21+. 111 minna st, SF. http://www.syncopated.net/emanate [5.20 - :\> o.s.t. - emanate / worm interface :/> kit clayton - cytrax] the Vanity party - BB Hayes (Resident) , guest djs:, Pete Avila, David Harness, ST John, Scott DC. Just off of highway 280. On the corner of Lawrence and Homestead. 9pm-2am, 21+. The BackBeat, 777 Lawrence Expressway, Santa Clara. 408.241.0177 Pitch - The underside of SF's techno/house music scene. Agressive, live musicians and dj's. w/DJs Crunch, YT, Dutch , Residents, Corey Black, Y.T., w/ special guests:, TUESday nites in March:, Freaky Chakra, Margorie & Stuart, DRC, big Nate, THURsday nites in April:, Cristina, Dutch, Ryme, Single Cell Orch., djCrunch.. ....Duck and weave.... Donation. CLUB SACRIFICE, 19th Street & South Van Ness, SF. Velvet Shop - house, jungle, hip hop, downtempo w/DJs M3, Mark Johns, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Waves, SJ. 408.235.1556 408.235.1556 Kit Kat - house. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. the End Up, 6th & Harrison, SF. The Cafe - house w/DJ Mathew Baker. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF. 415.861.3846 Passenger - excursions to global beats and rhythms 10p-2a, 21+, Free. the Skylark Lounge, 3089 16th St. @ Valencia, SF. Club Faith - Hip-Hop, House, Progressive. w/DJs Blackstone (Resident), Jay-R, Ruben Mancias (Resident), Weekly Guests. Boys/Girls, mostly bi/gay. If you have a closed mind this club will leave you behind! 9:30pm-3am, 18+, $7. Free with Flyer.. City Nights, 715 Harrison St., SF. Hi-Rise - The weekly thursday night house thing. w/DJs Seven (Resident), Sol (Resident), Peterbilt (Resident), Jin (Resident), Weekly Guests. Visuals by Visual Attack.Overloading your senses with deep underground house vibes at the coolest restaurant/bar in S.F. Free before 10pm. Dinners served until 10pm. Resurrecting the deep funk we call House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. [4.22 - Garth (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] [4.29 - Taj (Waller St. Boys)] [5.6 - Jeno (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] Atmospheric Drum & Bass - Peregrine. 8pm-11pm, . Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St, SF. Manifesto - soul, hip hop, dub, jungle & electro with w/DJs monkey, marlo, & weekly guests.. Come on out and eat a late dinner and stick around with us for drinks and more. 9:30pm-to close, Free. ChaChaCha's located at The Original McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @19th Street, SOMA. Eklektic - jungle, drum n bass w/DJ Sage (jungle/drum 'n' bass Resident). Live: Weekly guests from the Bay area + the World. 9pm-2am, 21+, $12. 78 Minna, SF. 415.332.5800 x787 Double Trouble - Romanowski , Special Guests. Live funk and hip hop. Abstract Jazz. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Silky...smoothe and sublime - Come listen to how the ladys lay down the funky beats w/DJs Tracy (Sister), FabuLizz (Progress), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls). Silky, the all female cast of the SF underground, will be held at Il Pirata on the third Thursday of every month. (between Potrero and Utah) Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno. Email Art and decorations by: Bahar meets Angela. 9pm-2am, $3. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 The Circus - Hip-hop, Disco, Club Classics, House w/DJs Paolo Vincenti (Resident), Romero X Pinoza (Resident), Special Guests Weekly. Thursday night -this thursday, January 28th, is THE grand opening. 9:30pm-, 18+. $5 with a college ID. La Vals, 2516 Durant Ave, Berkeley. 510.595.5597 Every Thursday at the Top - Deep House spun by: w/DJs Laron, John Pickett, Dani, Robbie Hardkiss. Steven Tune and the original dues rock "we got the beats" beats for all kinds for the premillinnial mind. $3. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. FriscoGlide - Every Thursday at the Top w/DJs John Pickett, Laron, Rotating guests as well. House Music The Top (Lower Haight), SF. Definition - Quality house music by the world's leading djs - house, techno w/DJs Markus (Resident / Kickdrum), JP (Resident / Kickdrum), Kamahele (Undertow Records). Inside Sacramento's Newest Club 'The Garage'. $5. Club 1831, 1831 19th Street, Sacramento. 916.484.4614 [4.22 - Tony ( Gathering, SF )] Techno Thursdays - house, techno w/DJs Dj Matt in the Hatt, Weekly Guests. Spinning house and techno every Thursday @ the Q Cafe. 9pm-. Q Cafe, 529 Alma, Palo Alto. 650.322.3311 _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Harmony Party Line - 408-486-9591 * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * the Buzz-line, a global party network - 650.569.3300 * Clubline - 415.339.8686 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * The Groove Line - 415.331.1500 ext.4788 * Mixology-Music (north bay) - 707.526.1230 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 * V.O.R.G. info - 415.750.3100 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV/Net Shows * Sunday-Sunday, 24 hours, 7 days a week, "Technostate" spins live with the dopest underground bay area dj's and work very hard at it! For more info see Technostate Website * Sunday night 8pm-10pm - "Soundz of Resistance" w/DJ Poohbear. Underground electronic music, mainly jungle/drum and bass, dub and hard techno along with guest DJs, interviews and not-so-random amples of life. KZSC 88.1 (Santa Cruz) * Sunday Night at 8pm - "Threshold" on Raveworld.net, A audio show featuring world class drum 'n' bass and Jungle Djs. * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Sunday night midnight-1am - "Shortwave" - Electronic music in all of its guises. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Sunday night 10pm-2am - "Jazzadelica" w/ Rocky Rococo. Exploring the groove: from jazz, funk and soul to world beat and all types of underground clubs. KFJC 89.7 (Los Altos Hills) * Monday night 9:30pm-midnight - "The Autobahn" w/dj Sutekh. Man and machine made music. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Monday 12 til 4 - "Three*Sixty Radio". Beta Lounge. * Mondays at 11:00 PM PST - "Krom" on Raveworld.net Featuring World Class Djs like Dj Sneak and Doc Martin * Every Other Mon Nite, 10pm-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis http://drxeno.cjb.net * Every Tuesday from 1 to 3pm - Trance, techno, breaks and jungle with "the underground with the secret asian man" - available on real audio @ ksfs.sfsu.edu Call ins, requests, and chances to win free gifts and passes to shows are always available, just stay tuned.... need more info? please email me at leopimp44@aol.com * Tuesday night 9pm-11:00pm - "Conscious Groove" - ambientdowntempojunglehousetrancedrumnbasstriphop spun by weekly guest DJs. Hosted by Stephanie aka Miss fat slice. Free Radio Berkeley on the internet - www.freeradio.org * Tuesday night 9pm-mid Pacific - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. The best in beats to satiate your inner child. Electronic dance, noise, spoken word, world music and more. Also available in RealAudio @ Epiphany of Sound Real Audio Also available: Humour List Archive Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) * Wednesday 3am-6am - "Nothing Short of Total War" w/Fathertime. Electronic musik of all kinds, interspersed with spoken word poetry and other various readings. KSCU 101.3 (Santa Clara/San Jose) * radio M.U.T.A.N.T. - live experimental techno and dj's playing all styles of underground music. spaz * Wednesday night 9pm-11pm - free form music mix. KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley) * Wednesday night - "the Power of Sound" with Leslie. A 3 hour excursion into the best music from the regions where minds meet between the heavans and the earth. KAZU 90.3 (Monterey Bay Community Radio) * Thursday morning 5am-7am - A postmodern Garrison Keillor on crack, DJ Boomerang Fidget spins hilarious tales of backwoods meth labs, urban decay and redneck ravers; all with a social conscience. Also, ambient & techno. Free Radio Berkeley 104.1 (Berkeley) * Thursday Morning 6-9am - "GYNA" Resident Djs buttek and maytag in a live 3 hour mix format bringin the latest UK and stateside rekkids...Guest djs coming include DJ Poop (Sf) next week, also be on the lookout for spots by DJ SIFU, Hak, and Sipon. For requests, rewinds, or anything else, call (408) 554-5728 or email thegyna * "Back To Babylon" - House extravaganza with DJ Sneak and Doc Martin. see Raveworld.net * Thursday morning 10am-2pm - "The Further Adventures of Aardvark" - trip-hop to experimental to ambient to gabba etc, etc. KSJS 90.5 (San Jose). * Thursday 7pm-11pm - The Beta Lounge - Live on the net - electronic music and culture, worldwide. http://www.betalounge.com/ * Friday 12pm-4pm - weekly DJ netcasts. x-radio. * Friday 3pm-6pm - free form music mix. KUSF 90.3 (SF) (also available on Realaudio * Friday 9:30am-noon - Snappy the Aligator plays deep groove music that dips into cool electronic sounds, classic soul, reggae & more. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Fridays 8pm PST - Freak City on Raveworld.net the definitive show on dance cultures. Featuring artists like Paul Van Dyk, Jason Bentley, Air and best of 1998 (Carl Cox, Josh Wink, Moontribe, Spundae, Burning Man * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night 1am-4am - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", with residents and hosts david garcia, st john along with joey mazzola and dj doubt. David garcia and joey mazzola are resident djs at the SKYLOUNGE located at 525 harrison st. along with rotating djs bb hayes and demilo. 1am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday morning - 12:30am-3am - "Under a Groove" with DJ CK featuring the deepest house grooves, downtempo cuts, and melodic drum and bass tunes. KZSC 88.1 FM, Santa Cruz. * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * (every other) Saturday night 10p-12:30a - "1984" w/DJ Richtoffen. House, Trance and German rave. 90.1 (Chico) * Saturday night - "amp" 1am. MTV. * Saturday night - "Subsonic". 1am-6am, KITS 105.3 SF. * Saturday night - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", Top 10s from guest DJs and "London Connection w/DJ Doubt". 2am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Ambiance Magazine - 9:30p weds-sun PNC Cable 2 (Modesto & Oakdale), 9p fri & sat, marcus cable ch 9 (ceres & turlock). * Saturday night/Sunday morning - 10pm - 3am, Aaron Axelson, Live 105.3 _________________________________________________________________ For a search interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.latetrain.com/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. 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Karina Powers - karina@hyperreal.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 01:38:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1085 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 01:38:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 1077 invoked by uid 233); 17 Apr 1999 01:38:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 5364 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 18:38:34 -0000 Received: from law-f169.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.232) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 18:38:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 28974 invoked by uid 0); 16 Apr 1999 18:38:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416183804.28973.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.115 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:38:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.115] From: "michael waldren" To: goodvibe@geocities.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Some constants in life... Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:38:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk fOR STARTERS I COULDNT AGREE WITH PAUL E. WOG MORE. BUT THE LAST THING THE SCENE NEEDS IS A GIANT CHIP ON ITS SHOULDER. NOW I AM FROM SD AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I APPRECIATE THE PARTY SO MUCH MORE SINCE I HAVE MOVED NORTH. IT IS A LOT MORE TIGHT KNIT AND I FEEL A CLOSENESS AT SF PARTIES THAT I HAVENT EXPERIENCED ANYWHERE ELSE. aND WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT THIS IS A RAVES LIST AND THE MAJORITY OF US ARE RAVERS. SO NEXT TIME KEEP THE PREJUDICES TO YOUR SELF BECAUSE WITHOUT US THERE WOULD BE NO PARTY FOR YOU TO ATTEND. YOU GOT THAT. NEXT TID BIT OF INFO, IS ALL THIS STRAIGHT EDGE BIZ. SURE THE CONCEPT STARTS OUT GRREAT AND THEN PEOPLE BECOME JUDGMENTAL AND EVERYTHING GETS BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION. I DO SUPPORT YOUR THEORY ON SOBER PARTYING, BUT DONT GO FORCING YOUR BELIEFS ON OTHERS.bREAKBEATS mARK WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID THAT xxx BRING A LOT MORE THAN A DRUG FREE LIFE STYLE TO THE TABLE. SO IT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL ALOT BETTER IF YOU GUYS CALLED YOURSELVES SOMETHING ELSE. LIKE R.A.D. -Ravers Against Drugs or something. Just remember that you had to go through your experimental phase too. Thanx for listening, and if you could send some love too that would be appreciated. my grandfather has a week to live and they are probably going to take him off of Life support as soon as i get down to SD to visit him for the last time. God i loved him. <:: crying::> "your everyday junglist" mikey > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 01:52:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4805 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 01:52:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 4785 invoked by uid 233); 17 Apr 1999 01:52:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14504 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 00:46:10 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 00:46:10 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:47:19 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990416212746.21992.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:46:04 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR: that acronym query Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hiya! A few days ago I asked if anyone knew what DSWYE meant. It means: Don't Shit Where You Eat. Thanks for the kind responses! See some of you in the desert (Mohave or Black Rock) someday soon! Aw geez that reminds me - here (longish, but worth it. promise): Naked and Booming In the Desert JON CARROLL Thursday, April 15, 1999 THE STORY GOES like this, and there are many who vouch for its authenticity. There is independent evidence. It could even be true. The place that is now Tecopa Hot Springs was once owned by an American Indian chief. Tecopa Hot Springs is on the back road between Baker and Las Vegas in the eastern Mojave. If you've entered Pahrump, you've gone too far, as the vicar said to the showgirl. The chief decided to deed Tecopa Hot Springs to the county of Inyo on four conditions. One: That it always stay open, 24/7/365. Two: That it always be free of charge to everyone. Three: That the sexes must always be segregated. Four: That no clothing be permitted at any time. And, miracle of miracles, that is the way it worked out. The springs are closed two mornings a week for general maintenance, but all else is as stated. Some Inyo County supervisors recently tried to impose restrictions, but the community rose up and the supes backed down. What a wonder it is, a miracle of democracy. There are wizened men in old bathrobes from the trailer park across the road; there are passing geologists and archaeologists; and (as is true in the best spots all over the American West) there are Germans. I sometimes think the Germans like our landscape better than we do. I was there with a group led by naturalist Michael Ellis, leader of fine expeditions for the semi-intrepid (mjnature@aol.com will yield a useful document; the writer received no compensation for this plug). We spent a lot of time there, sitting lazily in the warm water, staring at the institutional gray walls, talking or not talking as seemed appropriate. The women's side is apparently louder and racier; naked men together frequently turn thoughtful and inward -- at least naked men of mixed or undetermined sexual orientation do. I assume gay bathhouses are somewhat more raucous. ONCE, WE GOT to thinking about all the things Tecopa Hot Springs did not have. It did not have a juice bar or even a towel rental booth; it did not have murals or advertising logos or instructional videos; it did not even have lockers. Just a peg for your clothes; a grave stenciled sign warning against swimming, diving and cameras; the warm waters flowing gently. It was just a place, unadvertised and unexploited, a location that by its very anonymity encouraged comfort about public nakedness. Public bathing is a civilized activity; I wish there were a way of encouraging it without turning the whole issue into some ludicrous franchise or ballot initiative. Probably not possible: Still, Tecopa Hot Springs is there if you want it. ALSO THERE IF you want it is Kelso Dunes, which is south of Baker about 40 miles, between interstates 15 and 40. The dunes are majestic structures 600 feet high; the climb up them requires a certain steely patience. The thing is: They boom. No one is sure why; something about the composition of the sand. But when a person jumps or slides down the steep face of a dune, a deep harmonic resonance is set up, a rumble like distant cannon fire or a Tibetan prayer horn. If many people synchronize their jumping, the sound is magnified. It does not stop when the jumpers stop; it continues for several seconds, dying out slowly, as though the dunes were still murmuring with pleasure at the pressure of human feet. Kelso Dunes are at the bottom of a V formed by two valleys; the competing winds sweeping down those two valleys move them this way and that; the highest point changes weekly. So the jumping does not hurt the dunes; it just rearranges sand that was going to be rearranged anyway. And if you get too grubby, Tecopa Hot Springs is only two hours away. Two somewheres in the middle of nowhere, for your traveling pleasure. Jessica ******************************** http://www.peacedividend.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 01:52:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5308 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 01:52:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 5162 invoked by uid 233); 17 Apr 1999 01:52:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 17786 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 01:00:38 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 01:00:38 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:01:49 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:00:34 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Kemistry & Storm @ JL Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, I just noticed that Kemistry & Storm were at the Justice League (accdg to the Chronicle) on Monday. Waaaah! I totally would have sacrified a work-morning for *that*. Did anyone go? Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:03:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7798 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:03:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 7789 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:03:32 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:03:32 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vNIDa05708 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:02:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: <92eae3ab.2449459c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:02:04 EDT Subject: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi everyone!* i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all to get to know each other better!* ... just a thought ... ((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) <3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:07:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9363 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:07:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 9354 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:07:49 -0000 Received: from f254.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.145) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:07:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 98386 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 02:07:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417020722.98385.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.148.198.93 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:07:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.148.198.93] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:07:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi everyone!* i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all to get to know each other better!* ... just a thought ... ((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) <3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** Adam/Sharpe: Monterey Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:10:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10635 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:10:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 10627 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:10:25 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:10:25 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vTUGa03717 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:09:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <12214bfa.24494769@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:09:45 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk im from the greatest city of the bay area...RICHMOND =P well its fun here sometimes but i get lonely too. oh well...at least im like one of the only junglist in the whole city... DJMEGATRON:mechasoul In a message dated 4/16/99 10:03:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Peanut5367@aol.com writes: << hi everyone!* i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all to get to know each other better!* ... just a thought ... ((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) <3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:14:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11618 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:14:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 11610 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:14:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.26) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:14:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 89338 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 02:13:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417021333.89337.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:13:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:13:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Lia: lives in san francisco, but originally born and raised in Hawaii! >From: Peanut5367@aol.com >Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* >Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:02:04 EDT > >hi everyone!* > >i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you >never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all >to get to know each other better!* > >... just a thought ... > >((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) > ><3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:20:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13807 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:20:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 13796 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:20:22 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:20:22 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vAHAa24955 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:18:58 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <1687a1a1.24494973@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:18:27 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk for the moment I currently reside in sacramento.. I don't know where I will be living this summer however.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:21:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14472 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:21:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 14464 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:21:10 -0000 Received: from law-f67.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:21:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 81404 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 02:20:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417022043.81403.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.133 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:20:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.133] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: dat_dj@hotmail.com, andy@saturn5.com, dj_boywonder@hotmail.com, isaacl@divi.com, Ravergrl27@aol.com, macadio@hotmail.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, X2Nyte@aol.com Subject: BSP "DAYSHINE" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREE OUTDOOR!!!! Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:20:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk . Sunday, April 25th - Harmonics presents DAYSHINE Ryan Wilber (NBC, Discovery, Vorg, Sparkle), Urn (NBC,Harmonics, Harmony, Discovery), Sean Norton (Magic, Body Rock, NBC). 12pm- 5pm, Free. 707.571.8747 Hey hey there everybody. . . this party is going to be going just the way you want it to on a Sunday afternoon. .. I have worked out a beautiful location in the downtown of santa rosa with grassy knolls and a large fountain and big shade trees. it's got a small ampitheater feel to it!! it is definitely worth the trip to come and kick it with the crackedoutkids and listen to phat house music. . soooooo I'll see you all at the party on saturday night, those of you who have a ticket to this sold out event. . peace and love and I'll see you on the 17th, 18t, 24th, and 25th Raoul :) :P Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:43:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19354 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:43:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 19341 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:43:18 -0000 Received: from f199.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:43:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 79792 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 02:42:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417024251.79791.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.197.183 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:42:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.197.183] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:42:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello! i'm from the san jose/cupertino area!! :) >From: Peanut5367@aol.com >Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* >Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:02:04 EDT > >hi everyone!* > >i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you >never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all >to get to know each other better!* > >... just a thought ... > >((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) > ><3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:46:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20251 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:45:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 20219 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:45:56 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:45:56 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vONZa21067 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:45:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:45:08 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello i live out in the fresno area From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:51:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21419 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:51:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 21407 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:51:50 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:51:50 -0000 Received: from [209.157.114.240] (dynamic48.pm16.san-jose.best.com [209.157.114.240]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id TAA10754 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:50:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: madmacks@shell4.ba.best.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:47:48 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jonathan Mack Subject: "4:20" Pre Production Party/April 24th Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all interested sfravers, I must admit that 99.9% of the time I do not chat directly on sfraves. I have contacted some of you directly in the past when I felt I had something specific to talk to them about. I believe this is the best way to handle such lists as this...(And helps in defeating a 1,400+ unread email congestion in ones sfraves mailbox, which is where I find myself currently). However when I do make a posting, I try to make it very prudent to the lists importance. So be the case with this one... Some of you may recall the last time I posted on sfraves where I talked about an event to be held on April 24th where I was trying to gather 10,000+ people at a venue to film "4:20" The Movie... I still want to do this, but I know that in order for any serious 4:20 Raver to trust us and our intentions of filming them in a 4:20 movie; There is no better way than gaining their trust throughout time. With this in mind, we have decided to try and gradually build this vibe and respect, to the point that we can have 10,000+ people at a 4:20 rave and film our shots for the movie all in one evening. This should be the case by late Summer. Until then, I am personally making this premiere event available to any sfravers who feel that this might be something they'd be interested in being a part of or helping with. Below is a posting that I tried to get on this weeks rave calendar however my flyer was too large of a j.peg, below this announcement is the list of DJ's that will be attending as well as relevant information. I invite all good vibes and positive people to attend this event. A $15 donation will go towards the production of "4:20" at the stores listed below in exchange for a ticket with directions. I assure you, no one will be disappointed. If you would like to see the flyer or need some specific info, email me directly. I hope to see you there.... Until then... Thank you for your time. 4 Freedom 4 Liberty 4 Justice 4:20 Sincerely, Jonathan Mack Director/Producer 4:20 4:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:20 Saturday, April 24th - 4:20 The Pre Production Party Justin Hale (Simply Cosmic), Harry Who (Solid Grooves), Chris Jackson (Resource Records), Miguel (Migs) as well as Special Guests including DJ Brian Gaul Thrive Music)from LA and Special Guest Stars. This Pre Production Party will be an unique 420 person escapade that will be featured at a NEW and very, VERY INTENSE atmosphere. 3 stories of the most exquisite rooms you will ever party in. Come join us for our opening gala event and you will understand why 4:20 will go down into RAVE history as one of the DOPEST venues of the decade for its size. $15 Pre- sale Tickets ONLY....... NO TICKETS WILL BE ISSUED AT THE DOOR!!!!!!!!. Tickets go on sale at 4:20 on Saturday the 17th at: Housewears (SF), Solid Grooves (SJ), Paramount Imports (SJ), and at least one more Berkeley location will be announced on sfraves before 4:20 pm Saturday. This is a 100% Insured and 100% permitted event. TICKETS ARE LIMITED TO 420, so act fast. Doors open at 8:40, April 24th in San Francisco. For more information contact madmacks@best.com or dial 415.331.1500 X420 after 4:20 pm on Saturday the 17th. 4:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 02:58:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23431 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 02:58:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23406 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 02:58:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 02:58:19 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 217; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:56:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3717FBF4.EEC48156@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:11:49 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max McCauley CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 1015 folsom References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I talked to Rob Doten, hes still playin at Spundae this weekend...so I doubt its true. john r Max McCauley wrote: > I heard this and went nuts. > > Called Miss E from eklektic, she hadn't heard, we called DJ Siren who > works with spundae, for the bassment, and she hadn't heard anything and > she called the nikita crew and they hadn't heard anything about it. > > so I called Darin from Blue Room who lives by there and he said he saw > people going in as he drove by after eklektic last night. > > And so I would say it's probably not true. > > fingers crossed though, seen. > > 10-4, > duh, > max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:04:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25479 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:04:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 25462 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:03:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:03:58 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 110; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:01:44 -0700 Message-ID: <3717FD41.3DC8C18E@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:17:21 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MissNexa@aol.com CC: WWoodliff@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Whats a Rewind; How do i become a DJ.......... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > The E*tarded count on average per square inch within a 3 foot radius of the > decks is less than anywhere else in the venue.... besides, has anyone ever > seen a bunch of kids getting it on in the front? YES. At the last Full Moon in december, I was playin my set, totally in the groove, I looked down, and low and behold not 3 feet from the decks there was a couple going at if full bore right there in front of everyone. At an indoor this might have caused a comotion, but at the time and place, it was just a kind of a whatever. Very funny tho, bunch of people crowding the decks and some couple just goin at it shamelessly. john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:08:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26866 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:08:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 26857 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:08:48 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:08:48 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iDRZa25028; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:58 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:56 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im LiViNg In WaLnuT CrEEk,MoVing To SaNTa RoSa iN AuGuSt FoR CoLLeGe. I WuZ BoRn anD RaiSeD iN SouTh FLoRiDA From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:08:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27241 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:08:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 27121 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:08:54 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:08:54 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vTOSa21076; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:27 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I live in da south bay.. san jose/santa clara... Anyone from there??? love and mush, valerie AKA sparkles ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:17:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29996 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:17:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 29987 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:17:28 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:17:28 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vZEWa25133; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:16:32 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <7d4330e.2449570f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:16:31 EDT Subject: Re: CD Recomendation To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk that sux!!! i would totally kill to go!! it sux being 18.... =( oh well..... have fun!! love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/16/99 9:24:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, BigM009@aol.com writes: << Just a little info. Everyone knows Digweed will be at 1015 in two weeks. Peace, M >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:24:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1872 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:24:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 1859 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:24:35 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:24:35 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vSHTa28862; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:22:45 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:22:43 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Smokefree---finally To: JUNGurlE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk they say it takes 7 years of being smoke free for your lungs to become healthy again... but i don't know if it would be more for smoking that long, or less if you don't smoke that long.... oh well, i quit 3 months ago! good for you!!!!! i hope you can keep it up love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/16/99 11:35:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, JUNGurlE@aol.com writes: << As of today I am smoke free! Okay so after 11 years of smoking I am sure the damage is done but at least I won't be adding to that damage anymore! Have a great day! <3 amber r >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:25:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2691 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:25:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 2591 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:25:17 -0000 Received: from law-f88.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.151) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 4876 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 03:25:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417032508.4875.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.212.157 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:25:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.212.157] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:25:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Menlo Park *back to lurking* Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:27:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5200 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:27:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 5180 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:27:38 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:27:38 -0000 Received: from FReShKiD7@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vYQAa27251 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:26:22 -0400 (EDT) From: FReShKiD7@aol.com Message-ID: <6d2ef58b.24495959@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:26:17 EDT Subject: Fwd: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_6d2ef58b.24495959_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Reply-To: FReShKiD7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_6d2ef58b.24495959_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uhm , Okaaaay ! im From The south bay of San Jose .. David. --part1_6d2ef58b.24495959_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.4]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:08:56 -0400 Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id XAA12783 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26866 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:08:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 26857 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:08:48 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:08:48 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iDRZa25028; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:58 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:56 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im LiViNg In WaLnuT CrEEk,MoVing To SaNTa RoSa iN AuGuSt FoR CoLLeGe. I WuZ BoRn anD RaiSeD iN SouTh FLoRiDA --part1_6d2ef58b.24495959_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:31:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6126 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:31:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 6116 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:31:04 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:31:04 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iQKVa16066; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:30:07 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <481be2f1.24495a3e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:30:06 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk LIA!!! hehe. . .YOU definetely know where I live, However, for those of u who dont, i live in San Freeky Disco! but i'm here for school, so i'll be back in suburbia marin w/ my parents in the summer, BUT! i'll be back to this gorgeous city when school resumes. . .. :*:*angel*:*: psssst=seeya at harmony! In a message dated 4/16/99 7:14:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kandykid4@hotmail.com writes: << Lia: lives in san francisco, but originally born and raised in Hawaii! >From: Peanut5367@aol.com >Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* >Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:02:04 EDT > >hi everyone!* > >i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you >never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all >to get to know each other better!* > >... just a thought ... > >((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) > ><3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:35:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8999 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:35:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 8989 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:35:18 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:35:18 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA06360 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:34:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca9-28.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.156) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006346; Fri Apr 16 22:34:02 1999 Message-ID: <37179663.78E8@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:58:27 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Carmel...(monterey peninsula) Jennifer aka Chrysallys From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:37:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11110 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:37:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 11091 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:37:50 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?wCLvp9jrpSSAVjRQfgDEE28iciq78rh1?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:37:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id UAA14926; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:34:31 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:34:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Jennifer and Daniel Herron cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* In-Reply-To: <37179663.78E8@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk time for nrr: again From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:41:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12771 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:41:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12681 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:41:35 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:41:35 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA06828; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:41:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca9-28.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.156) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006814; Fri Apr 16 22:40:57 1999 Message-ID: <37179803.5462@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:05:23 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Max McCauley wrote: > > time for nrr: again Ahhh so picking on little ol' me huh? LOL From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:43:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14202 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:43:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 14155 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:42:59 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?wFDWUBMR4vo8IrtMWqpyZT1YesuDK10N?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:42:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id UAA15526; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:39:39 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Jennifer and Daniel Herron cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* In-Reply-To: <37179803.5462@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahahahahaha, nice1 jen, you were the straw that tickled the camel's prostate! SEE YOU AROUND EVERYONE 10-4, duh, max On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Jennifer and Daniel Herron wrote: > Max McCauley wrote: > > > > time for nrr: again > > Ahhh so picking on little ol' me huh? LOL > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:47:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16674 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:47:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 16666 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:47:26 -0000 Received: from law-f249.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.214) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:47:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 16315 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 03:46:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417034659.16314.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:46:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: binary_fineboy@iname.com, Oct1faith@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Tracer rock Faith... Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:46:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: binary fineboy lotsa cute raver boys, lotsa cute raver girls (hmm, was it >carly and susan I met?), and Tracer had the joint rockin right until 3. Its carly and sarah that you met,=) thanks, you guys are sweeties and it was wonderful to see everyone come out last night. i even found out some people i already knew were on the list. tracer spun a beautiful set as always. blackstone kept everyone dancing. i had tons of fun with everyone last night, especially dancing with all of you--amazing dancers you all are. i look forward to going again and also to seeing tracer spin again. see you guys at harmony or epiphany if you're going. love and happiness sarah Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 03:55:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19652 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 03:55:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 19644 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 03:55:52 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 03:55:52 -0000 Received: from screamer ([24.1.77.91]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990417035550.ZMPE19957.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@screamer> for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:55:50 -0700 Message-ID: <023a01be8886$f0744720$5b4d0118@screamer.frmt1.sfba.home.com> From: "Jim Lindsey" To: Subject: Question about Conscious Session (tonight) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:01:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey all, Curious, can anyone confirm that this party is all ages? Also, does anyone have any idea how much it is? Didn't get paid on time this week, so I'm short on funds... if its 20 I can't go =(... Thanks in advance. Take it easy! -Jimmy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 04:08:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21912 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 04:08:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 21903 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 04:08:28 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 04:08:28 -0000 Received: from Peanut5367@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vBKZa25155 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:07:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Peanut5367@aol.com Message-ID: <5b51764b.2449630e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:07:42 EDT Subject: **nRr: pAgInG vLaD!!** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey!* i accidently deleted the message that you sent me.. so here's the dealiO.. my mom knows where that store is and we're going to go by there tomorrow so i can check it out for ya. . . then ill get back to you with the results, k? oh yeah, and another thing.. when is the next feel good party? i think that its great that theres going to be presales in concord cuz berkeley is kinda far to drive sometimes.. okay then.. ill get back to you on that. . talk to you later. :o) (((hUgS))) *aNd* :o) sMiLeS! :o) <3 niCOle :o) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 04:38:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 521 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 04:38:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 505 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 04:38:33 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?gcQhr1/fzo2FYPyticLMJ33CRJ9o3zsf?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 04:38:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id VAA22592 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:38:32 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:38:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: whoah, random party tonight Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I can't get a ride to SF, and so I am going to miss E-Sassin at 1015. But it turns out N-Man needed an MC tonight at a party in Berkeley so we are going to recreate Quest tonight. 2307 piedmont avenue it's right across the street from the I-House at the corner of piedmont and Bancroft pretty much, in the brown shingly house, next door to that frat with the volleyball court. N-Man and I come on at 11pm. see you tomorrow bleary eyed crew at daybreaks and harmony 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 04:41:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1770 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 04:41:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1762 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 04:41:11 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 04:41:11 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vHVAa25512; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:39:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <6cd8520d.24496a89@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:39:37 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i live in a lil town in the east bay named castro valley =) love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/16/99 7:03:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Peanut5367@aol.com writes: << hi everyone!* i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all to get to know each other better!* ... just a thought ... ((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) <3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 04:51:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4878 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 04:51:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 4870 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 04:51:10 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 04:51:10 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vPSNa06122 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:50:08 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:50:06 EDT Subject: tix to harmony?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi i already have my ticket to harmony but we werent able to get my gurl one today cause apparently oakland has jacked the price of the rave up $2k and harmony had to take 500 tickets and sell em at the door and at 25$. the problem with that is i get off work at nine and might not be able to get her a ticket at the door. so i guess im kinda beggin. if anyone has a ticket they wanna sell for 25$ and can figure out some way to get it to me by 4:00 tommorow then id be very grateful. i can come pick it up from u if the driving distance isnt too far (parents would drive my lame ass) from PLEAsANT HILL. -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 04:51:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5523 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 04:51:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 5514 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 04:51:38 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 04:51:38 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.65) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:55:11 -0800 Message-ID: <37181316.1225BAB3@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:50:30 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: Whats a Rewind; How do i become a DJ.......... References: <3717FD41.3DC8C18E@hrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk musta been a mad set. :) > At the last Full Moon in december, I was playin my set, totally in the > groove, I looked down, and low and behold not 3 feet from the decks there was a > couple going at if full bore right there in front of everyone. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 04:56:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7308 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 04:56:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 7300 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 04:56:43 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 04:56:43 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.65) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:00:30 -0800 Message-ID: <37181456.16037221@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:55:50 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: NRR: Smokefree---finally References: <37178720.46476A30@hrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dang, everyone's quiting, you know i hate being part of the 'in' crowd, maybe i should start again. no seriously, i quit a week and a half ago after 8 years. what worked for me was negative reinforcement. every time i had a cigarette i reminded myself out loud how nasty it was. when i woke up in the morning, i reminded myself that i never used to have a dry nasty mouth in the mornin. when i bought a pack, i reminded myself that i was spending 1/3rd of a record. apparently it worked, because i started gagging whenever i was smoking, then when i quit, there was no residual cravings. very strange to say the least, especially after all the other times, when i'd be willing to strangle my mother for a cigarette. some of you might understand. maybe that helps someone else. :) paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 05:14:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12437 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 05:14:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 12427 invoked by uid 233); 17 Apr 1999 05:14:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:14:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: FReShKiD7@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: ToTaLlY NRR! ;)Re: Fwd: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* In-Reply-To: <6d2ef58b.24495959@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow, I just got a rush typing in AlTeRnAtInG cApS... hmm. Souther than South Bay live I, in Morgan Hill 10 min. south from SJ. In other words, it's a bitch to go partying unless you carpool, which I'm usually down for.. Lara:) ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 FReShKiD7@aol.com wrote: > Uhm , Okaaaay ! im From The south bay of San Jose .. > > > > David. > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 05:16:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13150 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 05:16:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 13142 invoked by uid 233); 17 Apr 1999 05:16:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 21531 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 04:05:23 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 04:05:23 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:06:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:05:16 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Conscious Sessions Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone out there online and have info? I've called the info line and have some ideas and would love to hear from someone who knows. email me privately? Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 05:21:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15739 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 05:21:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 15730 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 05:21:05 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 05:21:05 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vQNKa16066 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:20:23 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <4e0996cb.24497415@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:20:21 EDT Subject: NRR. Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Half my time in spent where Im at now, Salinas, and the other half is spent up in Sacramento. I will be moving back up to Sacramento full time within a few months. And well, I guess I should factor in all the time I spend up in the bay too right. hahahaha. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 05:23:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16706 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 05:23:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 16639 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 05:23:29 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 05:23:29 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vHQEa26487; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:22:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: <58fc0c93.244974a3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:22:43 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 15 Reply-To: Fine19boy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i live out in san mateo right by the water its nice and cool out here now :) awwwww only thing is though is that i know no one even remotly close. :( all the ravers i know either live in the east bay the south bay or in sf. i have to travel like 30 mintues in any direction to find any other ravers :( but i think their worth the ride :) ~T From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 05:35:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20542 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 05:35:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 20534 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 05:35:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tides3.tides) (198.94.2.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 05:35:19 -0000 Received: by TIDES3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <285SV9BX>; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:41:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mark Hellar To: 'Amber Leahey ' , "'sfraves@hyperreal.org '" Subject: RE: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:41:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Western Addition in S.F. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 05:55:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24601 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 05:55:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 24537 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 05:54:58 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 05:54:58 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8DTDLHC; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:54:27 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:10:59 -0700 Subject: Re:**Where Do I Live** Message-ID: <19990416.231151.2982.0.Trigometric@juno.com> References: <92eae3ab.2449459c@aol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-6,10-11,13-22 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I live in a box, with my hands ducked taped to my cheeks; in a dark closet which my cat locked me in..........I type with my toes. After a while you don't feel anything and start to lose your mind. The computer that I'm typing on is one that exists in the astral plane. I need to escape from "real" sometimes for it gets weird and lonely in this box. I hope my parents feed me soon. I can't remember if it's time to eat. This whole sick and twisted event is happening.......right now......in Castro Valley. It isn't even a city. It's a white trash commune owned by the county of Alameda. Our placement in the space-time continuum places us in between Haward and Pleasanton. After 19 years living here and and working as a cashier at a grocery store, this place is starting to freak me out. Sonoma........................here I come. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 06:02:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26390 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 06:02:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 26382 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 06:02:05 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd105.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.169) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 06:02:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 578 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 06:01:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417060138.577.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.193.125 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:01:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.193.125] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:01:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I live in Redwood City.. anyone else live here?????/.. doubt it.. late.. david.. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 06:26:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2084 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 06:26:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 2076 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 06:26:32 -0000 Received: from schultz.io.com (retch@199.170.88.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 06:26:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (retch@localhost) by schultz.io.com (8.9.1/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA00936 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:26:31 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: schultz.io.com: retch owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:26:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Cormac Russell To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Goa? In-Reply-To: <19990416.231151.2982.0.Trigometric@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, I'm missing my first Tsunami Goa party in NYC since I moved here tonight (X-Dream, wah!!!) and I need to find out where to get my psy-trance fix! :) Can anybody suggest stores that have good selections of Goa on CD? Any regular psy-trance events out here? i want to be out dancing! RTG OUT! ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. ..-. -. --- .-. -.. Retch The Grate aka Cormac Russell Amiga, The Computer for The Creative Mind Tolerance, Peace and Love rcormac@occs.cs.oberlin.edu retch@io.com // /\ Vote Discordian Play Traces Of Reality crussell@gtinteractive.com \X/ /()\ URL: http://cs.oberlin.edu/students/rcormac/frontdoor.html B5 <*> B5 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 06:32:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4050 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 06:32:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 4039 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 06:32:17 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 06:32:17 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vTWAa28860 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:31:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: <78f1e981.244984c9@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:31:37 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk im from novato! youve proabaly never heard of it unless youve been to the ren faire! thats novato! trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 06:34:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5461 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 06:34:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 5441 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 06:34:09 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 06:34:09 -0000 Received: from KidOnix@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 7FVTa26488; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:32:34 -0400 (EDT) From: KidOnix@aol.com Message-ID: <94b887c6.24498500@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:32:32 EDT Subject: Re: Goa? To: retch@io.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: KidOnix@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you should check out the blue room parties.. there 21 and up.. and has some good Goa.. I think the next one is May 1st *Kid Onix* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 06:53:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10735 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 06:53:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10723 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 06:53:32 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 06:53:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 12028 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 06:53:30 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 06:53:30 -0000 Received: from omzz (organic@stk-ts1-h2-37-65.ispmodems.net [209.162.37.65]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA11239 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904170653.XAA11239@pop.thegrid.net> X-Sender: i038597@mail.thegrid.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:38:44 -0600 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: omz Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* In-Reply-To: <6cd8520d.24496a89@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk on the fifth floor.... you may have seen me before? luca | From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 07:08:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13302 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 07:08:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 13290 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 07:08:44 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 07:08:44 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vPQYa16067; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:07:53 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <53325d6.24498d40@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:07:44 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: Peanut5367@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk probably no one lives close to me on the list.i'm in nevada!..haha.ya i know :P.... but i stay in livermore :) ~Sami :::)))3!!! In a message dated 4/16/99 7:03:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Peanut5367@aol.com writes: > hi everyone!* > > i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that > you > never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us > all > to get to know each other better!* > > ... just a thought ... > > ((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) > > <3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 07:09:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13971 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 07:09:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 13963 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 07:09:41 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 07:09:41 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.238] (libya-238.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.238]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18003; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:09:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:10:36 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Fri) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... "This is the beginning of the end of trying to force-feed consumers unwanted and unneeded genetically manipulated food." Benedikt Haerlin, Greenpeace International Press Release, March 17, 1999 ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 07:10:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14585 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 07:09:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 14577 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 07:09:58 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 07:09:58 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.238] (libya-238.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.238]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18097; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:09:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37150B71.B08193A6@warmth.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:16:54 -0700 To: vipassana , talk@warmth.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Deepfog Subject: Re: Why you should not use your company e-mail address for this list! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 2:41 PM -0700 14-04-1999, vipassana wrote: >I have noticed many of you who use you company e-mail address on this >this. I highly suggest you don't! I have worked in the information >systems industry for about 10 years now, and you may not be aware, your >e-mail can be (And usually is) routinely monitored without your >knowledge! > i would have to agree. i used to use my company email for whereever i got one. i just feel personally that no matter i feel about how they are paying or treating me, personal email ought to be done at off work hours (unless you own your own business or work on straight commission) because they are paying you to work! while you're there, why not try to give as much as you can? you'll feel better. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 07:25:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19144 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 07:25:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 19134 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 07:25:08 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd104.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 07:25:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 57284 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 07:24:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417072440.57282.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 171.72.5.72 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:24:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [171.72.5.72] From: "Lucy Fur" To: jessica@peacedividend.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Kemistry & Storm @ JL Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:24:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i did. big ups to the girlz as usual as they both rocked the house. especially loved their old track with goldie, i think. last diddy of the night... > >Did anyone go? > >Jessica Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 07:48:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25286 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 07:48:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 25270 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 07:48:06 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 07:48:06 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 3MGAa16067 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:47:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:47:26 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I myself currently reside in the lovely flavorful poetry of a town call San Lo'. . . San Lorenzo to be exact. . . it's a rough hood though. . . my sister, once she was driving down the street, passing up all these crazy looking gangsters all hootin n hollerin at her when BAPP!!! It was horrible, the screams, the disbelief. . . no one knew what to do. . . .poot-poot was. . . . gone for good. <---Bye poot-poot, we all love you. . . (Poot-poot isn't poot-poot's real name. . . and poot poot is a little chihuahua.) HUGZzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 07:53:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27341 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 07:53:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 27333 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 07:53:33 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 07:53:33 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id xDOFa26022; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:52:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <8f3300e4.244997b2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:52:18 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: omz@thegrid.net CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HAHH HAHHH HAHHHHH That was kinda funny though. . . HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 08:23:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3520 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 08:23:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3512 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 08:23:47 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 08:23:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417081723.17401.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.163.39.25] by attach1; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:17:23 PDT Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:17:23 -0700 (PDT) From: cherri-bomb Subject: Re: NRR: Great American Gas Out-- Ignorance! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i mean this in the nicest possible way but... ~reality check time~ This is such an amazingly pointless topic, especially on this list. Please, please try not to live up to the ignorant, self-absorbed reputation that most americans have in foreign countries-- Gas prices in the united states are ridiculously low when compared to most European countries. When I lived in London, I was paying far more for gas than any company in the US would dare to sell at. Yes, the US is a very big country in itself, but its not the entire world-- there are many other countries out there too. No, this is not a personal attack on anyone just try to think of the bigger picture and quityerbitchin. Think happy thoughts =Þ ~cb From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 09:39:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14712 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 09:39:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 14639 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 09:39:33 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 09:39:33 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA28121 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Ride to Harmony for 3 Asian girls! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What can I say, these kids are ky00t but rideless. They're all really nice kids and they'll give you money for gas. They're stuck in downtown SJ unless someone hooks them up. Gimme a call before 1pm at 408.924.8527 if you can catch these kids on your way up. If not, no big sweat. : ) ((( l0ve always ))) Nico "I learned Perl on the bus." -Marc Powell nico@entic.net http://www.entic.net/~nico From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 10:41:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5573 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 10:41:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 5565 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 10:41:02 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?i54OTBaHfRc64svJCbc4E7o29kpnncZq?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 10:41:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id DAA05268; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:40:56 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:40:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: n i c o cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Ride to Harmony for 3 Asian girls! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk big up 3 Asian girls inside the garden called the Harmony 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 10:47:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9747 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 10:47:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 9739 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 10:47:43 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?EYcsqH2mQbsqOkVRJ/PYbPooYOSl1KTX?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 10:47:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id DAA06105; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:47:41 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sfjungle@saturn5.com Subject: bsp: the next 27 hours Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, I am not a mackadocious ladiesman but I will still see you at Epiphany's Daybreaks for all the summertime style, as we prepare for the Harmony brockout session Saturday night. I am going to be on the mic from like noon until dawn on Sunday. So if we've never met, PLEASE come up and say hi and introduce yourself and PLEASE ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. get up stand up big up 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 15:27:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18974 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 15:27:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 18965 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 15:27:27 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 15:27:27 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id lFQOa28860; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:26:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <355f0243.244a0219@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:26:17 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Great American Gas Out-- Ignorance! To: cloud9nine@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The only thing this says to me is that Europeans are crazier than Americans for tolerating such exuberant gas prices. I feel bad for the Europeans, but when I drive over a 1000 miles a week I don't much care what other parts of the world pay for gas. Im concerned with what I pay. And if you think that is ignorant I feel sorry for you. ITS ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 15:42:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22168 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 15:42:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 22160 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 15:42:47 -0000 Received: from law-f239.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.204) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 15:42:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 66153 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 15:42:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417154219.66152.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.210.129 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:42:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.210.129] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Great American Gas Out-- Ignorance! Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:42:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not to mention you wouldn't really be hurting any gas companies. One day revenue would be up the other day revenue would be down. Now if everyone simply agreed not to drive for a week that would have an influence on the market but noone is willing to do that. So playing musical gas stations isn't going to hurt anyone. Also, think about who you'd be hurting first. The gas station owners...the ones who got the prices raised on them by the gas companies. Just my thoughts on the matter. It seems like a good cause but people are going about it the wrong way. Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) >i mean this in the nicest possible way but... >~reality check time~ >This is such an amazingly pointless topic, especially on this list. >Please, please try not to live up to the ignorant, self-absorbed >reputation that most americans have in foreign countries-- Gas prices >in the united states are ridiculously low when compared to most >European countries. When I lived in London, I was paying far more for >gas than any company in the US would dare to sell at. Yes, the US is a >very big country in itself, but its not the entire world-- there are >many other countries out there too. >No, this is not a personal attack on anyone just try to think of the >bigger picture and quityerbitchin. >Think happy thoughts =Þ >~cb > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 15:45:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23630 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 15:45:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 23618 invoked by uid 233); 17 Apr 1999 15:45:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 703 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 09:57:03 -0000 Received: from www0x.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 09:57:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 21903 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Apr 1999 09:57:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417095701.21901.qmail@www0x.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.53 by www0x via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Sat Apr 17 09:57:01 GMT 1999 Date: 17 Apr 99 02:57:01 PDT From: SMITH To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: SPRING BROKE! X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi there! ISOLATE RECORDS is having a SPRING sale so you do go = spring broke!!! DRUM'N'BASS vinyls: $7.- HOUSE vinyls: $7.- TRANCE vinyls: $6.- TECHNO vinyls: $6.- EXPERIMENTAL CDs: 30% off BREAK-BEAT/TRIP-HOP CDs: 30% off ELECTRO CDs: 30% off ISOLATE RECORDS has a great choice of TECHNO, TRANCE, HARDCORE, HOUSE, AMBIENT, DOWN-TEMPO on vinyl and CDs... We have also MIXTAPES for $12.- and various MIXCDs!!!! And phat DJ bags!!!!!And SLIPMATS for $12.99!!!!!! Come over Berkeley to check us out!! PEACE OUT! THE ISOLATE CREW (who will be partying outdoors somewhere...) ISOLATE RECORDS 2114 Addison St.Berkeley (between Shattuck and Oxford, two blocks from UC campus and Bart station) 510-845-7885 Open from Wed.to Sunday. 12pm to 7.30pm. Sunday to 5pm. = 1 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 15:56:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27289 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 15:56:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27148 invoked by uid 233); 17 Apr 1999 15:56:35 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:56:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: Amber Leahey cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Great American Gas Out-- Ignorance! In-Reply-To: <19990417154219.66152.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I totally agree with this. One day? Out of 365? Surely Gas Companies have heard about this "Great Gas Out" and to be honest, if I owned a gas station, or a chain of gas stations, I'd be laughing at it right now. Why? Because Amber is right -- one day of low revenue simply means one day of HIGH revenue the next day, and it all evens out in the end of the year. Gas companies KNOW we need gas, gas companies know that the majority of people choose not to, or because of long-distance commute CANNOT use public transportation, therefore they HAVE TO PUT GAS IN THEIR CARS. I, for one, currently CANNOT live without a car. There are no bus lines taht can get me to my school within a decent amount of time -- if I were to take public transportation to school it would take me near 2 hours, and it is a half hour commute. Then, I have to go to work, which by bus takes me a little more than an hour, but I have to be there within a half hour after my last class. I am unable to use public transportation for these reasons (and am rather unwilling, do you blame me though?) The only way to truly effect gas stations is to STOP PAYING ALTOGETHER! If you are fortunate enough to be able to take public transportation, DO SO. I don't mean THROW AWAY YOUR CAR -- simply reduce the amount of time you use it! I used to take the lightrail everywhere when I had a job right on the line even though it took me an hour and a half, and you meet the wackest (and neatest) people on the lightrail. Gas prices are ridiculous, but the companies are pitching the prices wayup high BECAUSE THEY CAN. I refuse to give up the "luxury" of being able to leave my house for class at 6:30am instead of 5:30am, and getting to work on time. Therefore I am willing to pay the extra $ to get where I need to go. I agree, it's fucking ridiculous, and officials are looking into whether or not these price hikes are legal or not, and it's creating a huger hole in my pocket, but they're doing it because they can/ If you guys really want to give it to the Gas Companies (which will be difficult, as I said many people won't give up the luxury of their car), a Gas Out is totally inefficient. One day?? They're probably laughing their booties off. Start taking public transportation more -- I plan to do so on days I don't work and just go to school.. It's a bitch of a ride but it'll save me an average of $10/week, and I can get some good reading in for school instead of dealing with f*cking traffic. Just my 2 cents (and I'm a hypocrite because I like my car) Love, Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Amber Leahey wrote: > Not to mention you wouldn't really be hurting any gas companies. One > day revenue would be up the other day revenue would be down. Now if > everyone simply agreed not to drive for a week that would have an > influence on the market but noone is willing to do that. So playing > musical gas stations isn't going to hurt anyone. Also, think about who > you'd be hurting first. The gas station owners...the ones who got the > prices raised on them by the gas companies. Just my thoughts on the > matter. It seems like a good cause but people are going about it the > wrong way. > > Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) > > > >i mean this in the nicest possible way but... > >~reality check time~ > >This is such an amazingly pointless topic, especially on this list. > >Please, please try not to live up to the ignorant, self-absorbed > >reputation that most americans have in foreign countries-- Gas prices > >in the united states are ridiculously low when compared to most > >European countries. When I lived in London, I was paying far more for > >gas than any company in the US would dare to sell at. Yes, the US is a > >very big country in itself, but its not the entire world-- there are > >many other countries out there too. > >No, this is not a personal attack on anyone just try to think of the > >bigger picture and quityerbitchin. > >Think happy thoughts =Þ > >~cb > > > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 16:04:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28769 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 16:04:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 28761 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 16:04:19 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 16:04:19 -0000 Received: from HiSKiD76@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vZLCa28861 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:03:31 -0400 (EDT) From: HiSKiD76@aol.com Message-ID: <2c3fbc08.244a0ad2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:03:30 EDT Subject: 66mhZ plus STOLEN BAG To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: HiSKiD76@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 66 mhZ.....a few thots on this partie....... it was AWESOME.... location....beautiful....wonderful.....it would have to be the best location that i have been to..... musik......it was tight i really enjoyed listening to all the DJs...... people.......pretty oK.....most of them....... kandeeee......WOW !!!!!!!! now here comes the YUKKIE part as i was dancing came back to my spot and went to go get something out of my bag......WAIT where did my bag go...its GONE...STOLEN>.......i thank all of u who were trying to locate the missing ceL bag.....thanks so much.....ur cool oK so if anyone found/ has a black shoulder like bag and it says ceL on the front.....with reflective letters.......man that bag had everything in it too.....UGH my car kays my ID.....all my numbers.....my pager.....yah this sucks......so im here without my bag.....my LIFE..... ahh if anyone has any INFO on where my bag is...gimme a email right back as asap........ i looked when the lights came on but hmmm it was no where to be seen...it musta grew legs and walked away i guess????? so if anyone ELSE found it PLEASE email me back .... thanks loves buh byes ceL ps thanks to *steph* and mook for loving me......(: From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 17:01:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10870 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 17:01:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 10862 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 17:01:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 17:01:47 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 325; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:59:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3718C1A8.F96B2993@hrg.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:15:20 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kalika1196@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* References: <78f1e981.244984c9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk YEAH!!! Another Novato head in the house!!! (aka hell) john r Kalika1196@aol.com wrote: > im from novato! youve proabaly never heard of it unless youve been to the > ren faire! thats novato! > > trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 17:09:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13102 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 17:09:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 13082 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 17:09:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 17:09:46 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 215 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:07:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3718C38C.E90D145C@hrg.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:23:24 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Consious Sessions - Keeping the vibe alive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, for those of you that wonder what happened to the underground house scene in SF, check out Josh and friends party - Consious Sessions! I went again last night and was once again impressed with one of the last remaining true sf undground house parties. Nice SOMA space for this one, very clean, nice lighting, they did more with the visual on this one than they did the last once, not crazy lasers or anything mind you, but more ambient toned stuff, loops and such. The music was slammin, and the vibe was the shit! Bunch of happy smilin groovin peeps, no attitudes. I soo highly recommend checking their parties out, these guy really deserve our support. peace, john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 18:13:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3135 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 18:13:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3126 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 18:13:14 -0000 Received: from law-f44.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 18:13:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 49962 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 18:12:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417181246.49961.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.209.84 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:12:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.209.84] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 66mhZ plus STOLEN BAG Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:12:45 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Never ever ever leave your keys in a bag somewhere at a party. I have heard this story soooooooo many times I'm starting to get sick of it. I say we all become latch key kids and start wearing our keys as jewelry. I personally have a little green hook on my keys and attach them to a beltloop or some other part of my clothing when I'm at a party. As an earlier post said a few days before...don't bring things that mean something to you. Leave your ID and pager and excess money in your car, hidden of course. Not saying that your car wont get broken into, but it seems that your stuff has a better chance there than at parties these days. *stepping down off my soapbox* Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) >66 mhZ.....a few thots on this partie....... > >it was AWESOME.... >location....beautiful....wonderful.....it would have to be the best location >that i have been to..... >musik......it was tight i really enjoyed listening to all the DJs...... >people.......pretty oK.....most of them....... >kandeeee......WOW !!!!!!!! > >now here comes the YUKKIE part as i was dancing came back to my spot and went >to go get something out of my bag......WAIT where did my bag go...its >GONE...STOLEN>.......i thank all of u who were trying to locate the missing >ceL bag.....thanks so much.....ur cool > >oK so if anyone found/ has a black shoulder like bag and it says ceL on the >front.....with reflective letters.......man that bag had everything in it >too.....UGH my car kays my ID.....all my numbers.....my pager.....yah this >sucks......so im here without my bag.....my LIFE..... > >ahh if anyone has any INFO on where my bag is...gimme a email right back as >asap........ > >i looked when the lights came on but hmmm it was no where to be seen...it >musta grew legs and walked away i guess????? so if anyone ELSE found it >PLEASE email me back .... > >thanks loves > >buh byes >ceL > >ps thanks to *steph* and mook for loving me......(: Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 18:22:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6715 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 18:22:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 6707 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 18:22:15 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 18:22:15 -0000 Received: from BoyInSJ18@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vJWOa06124 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:21:09 -0400 (EDT) From: BoyInSJ18@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:21:07 EDT Subject: Harmony! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Reply-To: BoyInSJ18@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone, I'll be at harmony tonight. I always seem to miss the meeting spot and it's been so long since I've met peeps from SFR so if you see me, say hi! I'll be wearing a white powerpuff girls tee shirt, blue jeans, and an elmo backpack. Hope everyone has fun tonight, whatever you guys do. Wenci From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 18:46:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12925 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 18:46:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 12917 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 18:46:13 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 18:46:13 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.123) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:49:54 -0800 Message-ID: <3718D6B3.38C40BE@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:45:07 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: NRR: Great American Gas Out-- Ignorance! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i also agree. i have managed to reduce the use of my truck to the point where i haven't had to purchase gas in 4 weeks. granted, i carpool with people, so i've been pitching in for gas here and there, but the point is that i've been spending more energy into reducing the amount of wasted driving that i do. does that make sense? another thing is that i've decided to move across the street from school. i'm soooo excited, i remember when i was in elementary school and i'd get to school on the bus after riding around for near an hour, and i saw all the children walking across the street to school. the thought always crossed my mind, 'if i lived right there, i could totally watch all the morning cartoons before school.' and now, 18 years later, my dream will finally become reality!! paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 18:51:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14591 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 18:51:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 14581 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 18:51:56 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 18:51:56 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vFDLa03719 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:51:18 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:51:17 EDT Subject: Last nite: Conscious Session To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So we get there not really knowing what to expect. We were told older crowd and we knew the music would be really good from the lineup. The space was really nice! It was a loft in the SoMa district of SF, which was really cool because I don't even know the last party I went to there was. The crowd was waay older than me, and they all seemed to be a bunch of old skoolers. Everyone was pretty friendly and seemed to be there to just have a good time and dance. The vibe was awesome...almost EVERYONE was dancing. Jeno, Fabulizze (sp?) and the first dj who spun, I didn't get his name TORE IT UP!!! Nothing but pure groovy house all nite long! So I had a great time last nite....I would definitely go to another one of these parties. So this weekend looks pretty crazy...I guess spring has taken over and just about everyone wants to throw a day party...Damn! 2 jungle day parties today!!! YEAH! Hopefully I can come reprazent today at *D a y B r e a k s* That is sure to be a dope event...See you all under the sun! =*) -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 18:52:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15868 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 18:52:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 15858 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 18:52:48 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 18:52:48 -0000 Received: from CKchick637@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vQCOa26489 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:51:56 -0400 (EDT) From: CKchick637@aol.com Message-ID: <5d4942de.244a324a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:51:54 EDT Subject: Whats the 411 about METROPOLIS ???? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CKchick637@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was curious what's up with METROPOLIS??? I want to go, but I need the 411... where is it held at?? How much is it?? whose the DJs??? Where can I get pre-sale tix?? Help me out and tell me the 411.. tell me everything you kno about it. Ohh yeah.. who's going the METROPOLIS, maybe we can see each other there, and have some fun... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 19:01:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20243 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 19:01:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 20229 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 19:01:51 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 19:01:51 -0000 Received: from CKchick637@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iEIMa25166; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:58:40 -0400 (EDT) From: CKchick637@aol.com Message-ID: <9337afe4.244a33df@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:58:39 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: rumtumtug@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CKchick637@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk CKchick637, is up in Frisco.. where the party nevers stops.. =] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 20:08:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21222 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 20:08:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 21034 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 20:08:26 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 20:08:26 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA11559; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA14371; Sat, 17 Apr 99 13:08:13 -0700 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:08:12 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Cc: Juju0322@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: party tonight!!!! In-Reply-To: <4daeb80f.2449335b@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk check out www.unitingsouls.com and click on housepitality or events either way you will see that there is an incredible housepitality party tongiht special birhtday celelbration for Solar who will be playing as well as Laron (psychfunkodicodelic) and Sean Murray (Static, Renegade Sound) and downstairs the CO3 Krew will be bringing us dope jungle from Gainsville florida. Along with Dj Rasa and DJ Alexis and MC 3DTEA on the mic. ALso tik tak (Ruffneck Reality) will be opeining up. It's going to be an awsome party! It's at 78 Minna st. which is between 1st and 2nd and mission and howard. SF. here's the info line. 415.273.5449 hope to see ya guys there! aminita On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 H4RDHOUSE@aol.com wrote: > was interested in finding a party for tonight, get back PLEASE! > > -ralph :D > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 20:14:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24118 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 20:14:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 24109 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 20:14:33 -0000 Received: from f169.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 20:14:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 51186 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 20:17:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417201747.51185.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.36.254.102 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:17:47 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.36.254.102] From: "p r" To: jessica@peacedividend.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Kemistry & Storm @ JL Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:17:47 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1 thing I have 2 say about this, is that they bring the best djs on weekdays which sucks for us ppl who don't live in Frisco. So, F... that. It's all about the money. >Hey, I just noticed that Kemistry & Storm were at the Justice League (accdg >to the Chronicle) on Monday. Waaaah! I totally would have sacrified a >work-morning for *that*. > >Did anyone go? > >Jessica Petros Rotsides SJSU "Pan metron ariston" Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 20:41:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1332 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 20:41:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 1324 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 20:41:40 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 20:41:40 -0000 Received: from [209.209.15.186] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10YbuC-00055F-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:41:36 -0700 Message-ID: <001001be8911$eb5ad340$ba0fd1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: Subject: Flower Festival Question Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:36:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone knows where Flower Festival is going to be Held? I need to plan my trip. Max. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 20:43:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2244 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 20:43:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 2041 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 20:43:08 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 20:43:08 -0000 Received: from PHUNKN3@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vMHNa28860 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:42:04 -0400 (EDT) From: PHUNKN3@aol.com Message-ID: <99bc8065.244a4c15@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:41:57 EDT Subject: Re: Kemistry & Storm @ JL To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Reply-To: PHUNKN3@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk armagedonas@hotmail.com writes: 1 thing I have 2 say about this, is that they bring the best djs on weekdays which sucks for us ppl who don't live in Frisco. In regards to only bringing talent here up on the weekdays.......Sometimes thats the only way we can get the talent, is on the weekdays. Most of the talent is on tour, and being all the way out here in S.F., we get the crumbs (read: weekday bookings). Besides, there are not any stricktly D & B club nites on the weekends in order for us to bring the talent to. Check the bassment @ 1015 Folsom for Fri. nite Junglism, if your feenin' is getting to strong. Good DJs always rolling thru.......... Noel PHUNCKATECK COMMUNICATIONS: communicating to the world thru music www.sfdb.com info: 415789.8000 x 1147 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 21:20:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15176 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 21:20:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 15168 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 21:20:34 -0000 Received: from sanmateo01.pop.internex.net (205.158.3.34) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 21:20:34 -0000 Received: from tiedye (pythagoras.org [205.158.215.178]) by SanMateo01.POP.InterNex.Net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-34792U7500L7500S0) with SMTP id AAC11367; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:20:27 -0700 X-Sender: andy-pythagoras@sanmateo01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:11:37 -0700 To: Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: andy@pythagoras.org (Andrew Nourse) Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* In-Reply-To: <92eae3ab.2449459c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <19990417212023.AAC11367@pythagoras.org> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 10:02 PM 4/16/99 -0400, Peanut5367@aol.com wrote: >hi everyone!* >i was wondering where everyone on the list lived... In the Santa Cruz Mountains. andy The Tie-Dyed Side of the Force From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 21:33:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18524 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 21:33:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 18512 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 21:33:32 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 21:33:32 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vCYWa21002 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:32:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <62dfcbb4.244a57f5@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:32:37 EDT Subject: what I'm wearing at Harmony! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone!! Can't wait for tonight !! Its gonna be hella cool anyways I'll be wearing some big jeans with a dragon on the back pocket and have a white shirt with a hella bright Oragne vest on so if you see me don't bother to come say hi. =) By the way what are you all wearing there?¿?¿ L8er PLUR Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 21:35:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19612 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 21:35:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 19603 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 21:35:42 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 21:35:42 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vXJMa00791 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:34:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:34:40 EDT Subject: directions to 2nd and Jackson To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry abot this but does anyone know how to get to 2nd and Jackson coming from Fairfeild/ Sac way? If you know I would love it if you told meh thanks! Bye *«Kent*» From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 22:27:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4622 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 22:27:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 4614 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 22:27:53 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 22:27:53 -0000 Received: from Subgucci@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vWCJa27250 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:26:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Subgucci@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:26:14 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: Subgucci@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I live in Campbell on Bascom Ave. i'm going to UCSC in fall, and i'm thinking to move to the dorm. anyone at UCSC? -alice << hello! i'm from the san jose/cupertino area!! :) >From: Peanut5367@aol.com >Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* >Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:02:04 EDT > >hi everyone!* > >i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you >never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all >to get to know each other better!* >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 22:32:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5643 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 22:32:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 5632 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 22:32:10 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 22:32:10 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vIQMa28861 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:31:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:30:36 EDT Subject: Line up For DJ's?¿ To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know the line up of DJ's in the different rooms? Like what time they're playing Thanks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 22:32:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6177 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 22:32:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 6100 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 22:32:20 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 22:32:20 -0000 Received: from HiSKiD76@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vBXJa27250 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:31:32 -0400 (EDT) From: HiSKiD76@aol.com Message-ID: <5ab07d17.244a65c0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:31:28 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: HiSKiD76@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk its me ceL the one with the MIA (missing in action) bag....... i live in newark which is right outside of fremont in the east bay..... anyone close by? loves ceL From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 22:35:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9892 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 22:35:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 9884 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 22:35:51 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 22:35:51 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vIMVa21067 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:34:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <19292854.244a667a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:34:34 EDT Subject: Re:*wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I live in the boring city of Fairfield does anyone else live sorta close to Fairfield area? *~«Kent~»* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 22:39:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11384 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 22:39:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 11191 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 22:39:01 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 22:39:01 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.68) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:42:47 -0800 Message-ID: <37190D6F.BC08410E@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:38:39 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: Line up For =?iso-8859-1?Q?DJ=27s=3F=BF?= References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i hear there's some real good ones in the back room. . .like later. . .around midnight or whatever. paul Gammbino@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know the line up of DJ's in the different rooms? > > Like what time they're playing > > Thanks > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 17 23:55:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 551 invoked by uid 6000); 17 Apr 1999 23:55:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 543 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 23:55:11 -0000 Received: from web507.yahoomail.com (128.11.68.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 23:55:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417235409.7412.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.239.196.40] by web507.yahoomail.com; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:54:09 PDT Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:54:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Holly G." Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The north bay for me sweeties. Holly g. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 00:34:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11968 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 00:34:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 11580 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 00:34:06 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 00:34:06 -0000 Received: from KidOnix@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vQDKa25513; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:33:17 -0400 (EDT) From: KidOnix@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:33:16 EDT Subject: Ride to Harmony To: Gammbino@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: KidOnix@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone... my ride to Harmony just flaked.. I have my ticket and everything.. i live in Milpitas on the border of San Jose.. so if anyone has any room and could possibly give me a ride it would be much appreciated.. you can page me at (650)317-3145 thanx *Kid Onix From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 00:37:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13914 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 00:37:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 13906 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 00:37:56 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 00:37:56 -0000 Received: from [209.24.164.52] (dynamic52.pm01.san-jose.best.com [209.24.164.52]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id RAA05648 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:37:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: madmacks@shell4.ba.best.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:34:23 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jonathan Mack Subject: "4:20" Pre Production Party/April 24th Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 4:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:20 Saturday, April 24th - 4:20 The Pre Production Party Justin Hale (Simply Cosmic), Harry Who (Solid Grooves), Chris Jackson (Resource Records), Miguel (Migs) as well as Special Guests including DJ Brian Gaul Thrive Music)from LA and Special Guest Stars. This Pre Production Party will be an unique 420 person escapade that will be featured at a NEW and very, VERY INTENSE atmosphere. 3 stories of the most exquisite rooms you will ever party in. Come join us for our opening gala event and you will understand why 4:20 will go down into RAVE history as one of the DOPEST venues of the decade for its size. $20 Pre- sale Tickets ONLY....... NO TICKETS WILL BE ISSUED AT THE DOOR!!!!!!!!. Tickets go on sale at 4:20am on Sunday the 18th at: Housewears (SF), Solid Grooves (SJ), Paramount Imports (SJ), and at least one more Berkeley location will be announced on sfraves before 4:20 pm Saturday. This is a 100% Insured and 100% permitted event. TICKETS ARE LIMITED TO 420, so act fast. Doors open at 8:40, April 24th in San Francisco. For more information contact madmacks@best.com or dial 415.331.1500 X420 after 4:20 am on Sunday the 18th. 4:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:204:20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 02:23:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8264 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 02:23:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 8249 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 02:23:08 -0000 Received: from thyme.cisco.com (171.69.43.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 02:23:08 -0000 Received: from bork (grimace.cisco.com [171.71.253.76]) by thyme.cisco.com (8.8.8/2.5.1/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA22658 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904180222.TAA22658@thyme.cisco.com> X-Sender: smilez@elephant.zo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:19:14 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: smilez Subject: HARMONY SPRINGTIME FLOWER FESTIVAL UPDATE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Harmony is having voicemail problems at this time. The Spring Time Flower Festival will be held at 2nd and Jackson. There are a lot of tickets available at the door for $25.00. Voicemail is being worked on at this time. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 02:34:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15884 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 02:34:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 15843 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 02:34:18 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 02:34:18 -0000 Received: from GIANNI3333@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vDTSa24961 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:33:37 -0400 (EDT) From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:33:31 EDT Subject: **IMPORTANT HARMONY INFO** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: GIANNI3333@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everybody Harmony's 415 voicemail number is inoperative but the 408 486-9591 number is still working. For your information the party is at 2nd & Jackson and if you have a presale ticket you are Guaranteed to get in. If you don't have a presale there will be plenty at the door. Please drive safe and party smart. Thanks and we'll see you all there Gianni for Greg Sandler:) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 04:28:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14380 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 04:28:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 14364 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 04:28:03 -0000 Received: from law-f226.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.164) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 04:28:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 20268 invoked by uid 0); 18 Apr 1999 04:27:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990418042735.20267.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.232.192.9 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:27:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.232.192.9] From: "Leo Walker" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: LEO Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:27:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey guys it's me. all that know who this is and care to know. well i moved up to yuba city like i said last time. well i really did this time. it's boring as hell. only like pop. 40,000 all white and old people. everyones is blonde and shops at wet seal and gottchalks (imitation macys). everyone dresses the same and everything. it's so boring and flat. this is way suburbia. i'm talking 40 miles above sacramento and in the straight cuts. well i'm going to alternative school and guess what. i don't have to get those ten extra credits i need to graduate cos i didn't go to school last semester when i lived in the city. i get them just for actually working at a job in the past. isn't that dope and i only have to get 4 credits. two for econ and two for govt. isn't that cool. so the principal says i can finish in like 4 weeks. i'm gonna try and find a job. if i can get one. cos no one seems to want to hire. even though i called them before i went to apply and they said they were, but as soon as i go in the get an application and they see a tall black gay looking boy. they say "we're not hiring." so guess what i told this one lady who got hella snotty with me. i was like. "oh, well you seemed to be hiring yesterday when i called, but i guess your not now cos i'm black and look gay right." boy did she feel hella moaded. well anyways enough about me cos half of you don't even know who i am. well i love you guys. and i'm bored as hell. this sucks. MUAH LeO any of my friend that need to call me. call me at 530 671 5838. just not past 9 30 my mom get's all pissy. or you can write. leo walker 1460 mirada circle yuba city, ca 95993. ok enough already. later. love you crisco. i miss you. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 04:33:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16883 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 04:33:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16871 invoked by uid 233); 18 Apr 1999 04:33:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 26253 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 20:20:08 -0000 Received: from pitcairn.citysearch.com (209.67.166.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 17 Apr 1999 20:20:08 -0000 Received: from pitcairn (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pitcairn.citysearch.com (8.9.1/1998123101) with SMTP id NAA23067 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:16:29 -0700 (PDT) From: dj_noel_sf@hotmail.com Message-Id: <199904172016.NAA23067@pitcairn.citysearch.com> Subject: Phuncktion Date: Saturday, April, 17, 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Logged: Logged by pitcairn.citysearch.com as NAA23067 at Sat Apr 17 13:16:29 1999 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk DJ E-ssasin (SOUNDSPHERE / PHUNCKATECK, L.A.) this tues. @ PHUNCKTION....DRUM & BASS IN MOTION. w/ residents: NOEL & JUJU.......COME ON DOWN!!!!! Phunktion at The Top Every Tuesday, 10pm-2am. Tuesdays: The Phunkateck crew brings drum and bass to the Haight street masses. Click here for more information: http://sanfrancisco.citysearch.com/E/E/SFOCA/0011/86/97/ How to get to the good stuff. http://sanfrancisco.citysearch.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 04:38:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18735 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 04:38:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 18721 invoked by uid 233); 18 Apr 1999 04:38:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 2469 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 03:25:43 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 03:25:43 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:26:47 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:25:31 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Epiphany pix Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Kids! It was a marvelous day for some Day Breaks - if you missed it, check it out at http://www.peacedividend.com. On the Raves page, click Pleasures Past. Michael, Mook, Jess ica, Stephanie, Max, Omar, Melissa, et al - it was lovely to see you in the real world! With sunlight and everything! There were a bunch of folks I didn't get to meet (Uncle Noah!); I'll see you soon, I betcha. This was a really nice way to start the season. There were only a few handfuls of folks too clique-y to make friends (but they were pretty entertaining, esp. the bug-bag ladies and guy who played his gameboy in solitude for like hours, then ambled off to commune with his didgeridoo), and bunches of awesome, open, grooving folk. Be safe and have fun, all you happy lovely flowers at Harmony tonight! Maybe we'll see some of ya at Housepatality... Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 04:44:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21967 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 04:44:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 21959 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 04:44:46 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 04:44:46 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vBLBa06122 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:43:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:43:42 EDT Subject: NRR To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just out of curiousity i would like to know if there are any ravers who are East Indian. laalkuchaa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 05:16:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26979 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 05:16:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26971 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 05:16:27 -0000 Received: from fillmore-pop0.paix.cp.net (HELO fillmore.criticalpath.net) (209.228.15.161) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 05:16:27 -0000 Received: (cpmta 15386 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1999 22:16:25 -0700 X-Sent: 18 Apr 1999 05:16:25 GMT Received: from ip22.soma.domain.net (HELO wayne2) (157.22.222.22) by mail.club.net with POP3 XMIT; 17 Apr 1999 22:16:25 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:15:06 -0700 To: Jessica Webster , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: wayne2@club.net Subject: Re: Epiphany pix Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 8:25 PM -0700 4/17/99, Jessica Webster wrote: >Hi Kids! > >It was a marvelous day for some Day Breaks - if you missed it, check it out >at http://www.peacedividend.com. On the Raves page, click Pleasures Past. I also have a bunch of pictures from today's event. I'll apologize in advance to those of you out there with slow net connections: the pictures huge because I always take pictures in hi-res mode... here you go: http://host.domain.net/picts/Epiphany_1999-04-17/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 06:05:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3654 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 06:05:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 3642 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 06:05:00 -0000 Received: from ns2.safemail.com (204.89.219.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 06:05:00 -0000 Received: from Charlie.safemail.com (ip57.safemail.com [204.89.219.57]) by ns2.safemail.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA16389; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00b501be8961$6f4e7b80$322417ac@Charlie.safemail.com> From: "Charlie" To: , Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:05:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I live in Morgan Hill, but I work in the Campbell Pruneyard area. Peace, Love, Cowfish! - Charlie charlie@safemail.com "Eagles may soar, but weasels aren't sucked into Jet Engines" -----Original Message----- From: Peanut5367@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 7:26 PM Subject: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* >hi everyone!* > >i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you >never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all >to get to know each other better!* > >... just a thought ... > >((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) > ><3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 06:52:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10599 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 06:52:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 10582 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 06:52:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anlsf.com) (206.79.166.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 06:52:08 -0000 Received: from astrojax ([206.79.166.2]) by anlsf.com (Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) with SMTP id 88256757.0025EEAC; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:54:19 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990417235320.00912c10@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:53:20 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: deepbeep Subject: DayBreaks review... Bug Bites, Breaks and Bigass grinz!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk whoooooooooo baybee... hot DAAAAAAYUM! Stickman and I were lucky enough to be able to help out with this event, so after printing up flyers at my office until 2 am last night, we met up with Brian Behlendorf at the rental place around 9:30 this morning. Picked up the generator, and a table, and headed over to McLaren park. When we got there the larger part of the Epiphany people were already there, preparing and setting up. The location was selected from a number of options within the park last week, and even though it was already gorgeous to begin with, seeing it take shape with the altars, decorations (YAY Terri!!) and soundsystem in place was fantastic. This spot had not been used before (to my knowledge), although I'm sure it will become a quick favorite now that the word is out. It's a beautiful setting for outdoor events, which basically consists of a natural amphitheater with a small lake. Take a look at the first pic on wayne's picture page for a good idea of the site. Everything was well in place by the time people really started ahowing up in force, around 1:30 or 2:00... By that time I could definitely tell that this would be an extraorindary afternoon. Everyone who showed up seemed to be in the right mindset to make this event go OFF! Unfortunately most people showed up too late to catch Joseph(?), the impromptu MC who appeared out of nowhere during ReAch's set, asked MC Duh for the mic, and promptly proceeded to tear the place down with rhymes and beatboxin'! However, the park was jam packed when the Jungle Live Crew hit the 1200's... all 6 of them... with 7 people spinning and scratching... SICK, I tell ya... just sick! Uncle Noah came up from LA to drops some totally funky stuff, and the tag teams between Siphon & Hak and Science & AndyW kept people goin' bonkers all afternoon :) By now it's 11:40pm, and I think I'm finally down enough off of the excitement high to be able to get some sleep... hhhhmmmmmm.... beeeeeed! :) No Harmony for this tired kid... I just wanna send a quick thanks to all the Epiphany people for allowing me to share in this experience, y'all know how to create magic... and to everyone who took the effort to come out and share their day with us, it's because of -you- that today kicked ass!! :::hugs::: d. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 08:39:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23356 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 08:39:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 23348 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 08:39:44 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 08:39:44 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8GN8DK2; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:39:25 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:57:34 -0700 Subject: Reminisence of '97. Message-ID: <19990418.015743.2982.0.Trigometric@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-11 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just thinking about that year. I think you can sum it all up in one track. Orb. Toxygene. Kris Needs Up For a Fortnight Mix. Wow. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 08:49:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24832 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 08:49:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 24766 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 08:48:58 -0000 Received: from law-f112.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 08:48:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 53533 invoked by uid 0); 18 Apr 1999 08:47:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990418084744.53532.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.232.192.14 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:47:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.232.192.14] From: "Leo Walker" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: LAST NITE Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:47:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey all your "ravers" and "partiers" i hope you all had fun last night. guess what i got to sit at home and tweek on the web. it was soooo much fun. NOT! but i hope you guys are having fun. i'm kind of having not fun partying and actually looking for a job so i can save money and move back down there to see you guys. i feel so responsible and determined. i hope my car gets fixed so i can come and party with you guys again soon. did anyone miss me? probably not you guys were so drugged out having soooo much fun. just playing. well miss you guys. and TRICE where are you? LeO Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 08:58:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25918 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 08:58:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 25903 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 08:57:59 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 08:57:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990418085616.6282.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.37.20.20] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:56:16 PDT Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:56:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: I wish I was at Harmony right now To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wish I was at Harmony right now. Steve =< === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 14:42:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19383 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 14:42:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 19375 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 14:42:36 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?JrhPKsc932yyBjfTAzuFL6GqAYLNTwB2?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 14:42:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id HAA07487; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 07:42:35 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 07:42:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: sunday morning Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's time to punch the heavy bag I call my pillow. Shock out, Epiphany crew, and Harmony. And to those of you who made it summertime today, thank yooooooou. Johnathan (Dr. DAT), Shane d0nut, who else can say they partied for 18 hours straight today? BOH BOH BOH! I would shout out and say thanks to everyone who helped with everything and brocked out and all dat yesterday and this morning, but...who know who you are, and I might not! big up ya chest. Sunset boat party, here I come. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 17:32:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16917 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 17:32:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 16906 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 17:32:53 -0000 Received: from law-f106.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.169) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 17:32:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 66150 invoked by uid 0); 18 Apr 1999 17:32:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990418173235.66149.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 171.214.55.158 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:32:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [171.214.55.158] From: "danny b" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:32:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All hail Berkeley! Anyone in the elmwood/rockridge area? --decibel >From: Peanut5367@aol.com >Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* >Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:02:04 EDT > >hi everyone!* > >i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you >never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all >to get to know each other better!* > >... just a thought ... > >((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) > ><3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 17:46:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20034 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 17:46:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 20017 invoked by uid 233); 18 Apr 1999 17:45:59 -0000 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:45:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: woohoo! epiphany! :D Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hi guys! *wave wave wave* i had a great time yesterday, it was such a beautiful day, beautiful location, beautiful people, and ass-thumpin beats! big up jungle life crew and hak & siphon and andyw and science and uncle noah and well everyone! i hope we have alot more of these this summer! good to see and meet all of you whom i did (i met the other lara! hi!) love, lara:) ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 18:33:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29260 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 18:32:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 29252 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 18:32:56 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 18:32:56 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vONNa25166 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:32:10 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:32:09 EDT Subject: *-*HARMONY*-* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I didn't go.. but am bracing myself for the countless number of reviews we will all be recieving!!! Hope each one is positive in its own way! <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 18:48:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3812 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 18:48:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 3801 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 18:48:45 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 18:48:45 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vETSa03719 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:48:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:48:00 EDT Subject: !!!Lå§tNight§ Har(V)onY!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone!!! I don't know were to begin Lastnioght was the Shit!! excuse my French anyways.... At first it looked like it was gonna be boring but later on hell it just took me away with great Drum-n-Bass Mc Duh was flowing all crazy and just made me bounce around tha room Hak was coo Greg man you lite it up!!! Lawrence science and cimino you all were tight!! I loved the green lasers in the Tech house room was tripy when it spelled out Welcome to SPring Time FLower Fest I lost it all and started dancin and huggin folks.... I don't know if your on this list but the girl with the neon green and dark blue Addidas Pants and tank top ohh shit you were showing them how to really dance and move on tha floor oh ya and thanks for tha pix with me =) Anyways people I gota go..... That really sucked Chris when they threw out our damn!! water >=( Much PLUR and HuGz Kent PS: Amber you have cool StarBurst fliers!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 19:59:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19308 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 19:59:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19299 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 19:59:50 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 19:59:50 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vENZa25512; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:58:58 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:58:53 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20!!!L=E5=A7tNight=A7=20Har(V)onY!!!?= To: Gammbino@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk did the girl have rosy, rosy cheeks, and she was real pretty? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 20:02:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20418 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 20:02:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 20410 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 20:02:41 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 20:02:41 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vLEa000664 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:01:29 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <171bd31b.244b9417@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:01:27 EDT Subject: *(o';'o)* -H@RMONY!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk everything last nite just feel into place for me. when we got there i still didnt have a ticket for my girlfriend and was kinda stressing. so when i was walking past these kids i overheard that they had like 2 extra tickets and just kinda ignored it but then it hit me and i was like "OMI GAWD!!!"" i ran over and bought one for 21$ (service charge hehehe) and we ran to get in line. the line was SO fast! we got in in like 15 minutes or 20 who knows but i was amazed. i think it was really cool how the people who were gettin their tickets at the door got a number so the HARMONY peeps could keep track of the population inside. ok so after we got in we kinda walked around fo a while checkin out the rooms (the back room "tech house tulips" wasnt open) the downtempo room was kinda bad cause the sound of drum and daisies was kinda leakin thru ALOT so u had to be by the speakers to dance to it but thats ok. so we just decided to sit down for a bit and wait till the party went into full swing to get up and dance and all. after like 45 minutes of that my friend anton came up with anna and we alll chilled for like 10 minutes before wandering into the back room.....OMG!!! i was so blown away!!! does anyone know who that first dj was cause im now a loyal follower. every song was totally ENERETIC and i couldnt help but just bust out and dance. it was even better when i found out the booth behind me was supllying leelte glowstix! so after a while in that room me and emily went to check out the drum n bass room and i just had to dance there too even i dont like jungle too much im kinda sick of trance right now so it was a nice change. i really think i broadened my musical horizens once again and it DOES feel good. so for the rest oof the nite emily and i just sat on her blanket and chilled in the downtempo room (did the sound go out at like 2:30 or was it me? what happened? all of a sudden the bass went beserk and i was like YYYYYEEEEEEEEOOOOW!) so we left at like 3:30 :( cause emily was REALLY tired and i was cool with that cause i got my fix. SO THANKS everyone for makin it a kick ass party and to the harmony crew for makin it a nite to remember! and was it not just KICK ASS that it wasnt crowded in there!? omi gawd i was luvin it!!!! -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 20:53:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4432 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 20:53:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 4414 invoked by uid 233); 18 Apr 1999 20:53:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990418205351.4402.qmail@hyperreal.org> Received: (qmail 23029 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 20:14:21 -0000 Received: from zima.ucf.ics.uci.edu (128.195.23.150) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 20:14:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 24963 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 20:12:58 -0000 Received: from fosters.ucf.ics.uci.edu (128.195.23.105) by zima.ucf.ics.uci.edu with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 20:12:58 -0000 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Alexius Ludeman" Subject: Harmony psuedo review/rant about my kick ass day Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:12:57 -0700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I must say yesterday was a kick ass day for me! I got to see some old friend who came up from Orange County. During the day I got to hang out w/ the pound sfravers (ricky,desi,mickey,aaron,kirsten,leo,philip!) and celebrate ricky's 17th bday!!!! And the rest of my evening/morning filled with a kick ass harmony party. At the party i got to see even more #sfraves. I had soooooo much fun and i'm still running even though i haven't gone to bed yet. 'course everyone knows that sleep is overrated anyways. The party was most excellent. It had 3 rooms. The entrance room was split into two. jungle at the entrance and the chill room in the rear. I stayed in the jungle room almost the entire night shaking my bootie to THE MCduh master. I was totally impressed by protolab, live jungle! It was really amazing. All the djs were off hook and i totally was grooving. I also got to meet some sfrave people, terry and leslie. I'm so stoked now with my cool laminate. I got to meet my pimp monster rob and mr mack daddy chris. and malissa, allie, peter, john, glade, max, jess ica, carrie, chris, heather, jeremy, jeremy, randy, nico, shane fer a split second, eric, anyone else i might have missed! *hugz to y'all* The other room was the "tech" room which has usually been the chill room in the past. The room had the full on lasers going and was already packed by the time i got in at 10:30pm. I was so surprised! I never did find the line up schedule so i never knew when christopher lawrence played. I learned after the fact that he played at the same time dj science and mc duh were tearing it up and i couldn't miss that. Of course to be expected of 2nd and crackson, that place was hotter than hell, but what can you do until the outside parties begin. decorations were cool although the ones in the jungle room seemed to read "hormony" hahaha :) okay this is long enough for this cracked out message. peace lex = silverfuk :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 21:28:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14215 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 21:28:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 14207 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 21:28:43 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd100.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.164) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 21:28:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 15668 invoked by uid 0); 18 Apr 1999 21:28:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990418212816.15667.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.193.89 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:28:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.193.89] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: epiphany Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:28:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wowzers.. epiphany was grrrreat.. thanx to all the people that made it happen.. BIG SHOUTS TO THA JUNGLE-LIFE CREW!!!!.. Ya'll rocked it as usual.. can't wait to see them again at dubphonik.. if you haven't been to their website yet check it out.. www.jungle-life.com i would have liked to meet some of ya'll from the list.. i was gonna ask around but i was kinda out of it n into the music.. heheh.. well later.. david.. (tha mexican with the GZA shirt on) Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 21:41:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18425 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 21:41:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 18396 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 21:41:29 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 21:41:29 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 7UKIa26022; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:40:42 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: <66b4848e.244bab56@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:40:38 EDT Subject: Re: headphones To: psober@geocities.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ive got great flourescent pink ones called my first sony's.=] -ever From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 21:45:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19497 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 21:45:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 19447 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 21:45:44 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 21:45:44 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id rQMTa25166; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:43:53 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:43:51 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Being sober..at a rave To: eeelips@yahoo.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, jw@wgdsearch.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what ever happened to doing what pleases you, not others? -ever From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 22:06:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24804 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 22:06:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 24782 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 22:06:25 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 22:06:25 -0000 Received: from Fiercefigs@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vLRAa12143 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:05:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Fiercefigs@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:05:49 EDT Subject: dumb me!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: Fiercefigs@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey guys I lost my phonebook with all my numbers in it I'm sooooooooo pissed!!! Anyways does anyone have the number to Sunset tonight I would be stoked if you e-mailed me privately!! thanks figs From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 22:22:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28632 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 22:22:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 28591 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 22:22:14 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 22:22:14 -0000 Received: from KidOnix@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iWUVa26487; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:19:12 -0400 (EDT) From: KidOnix@aol.com Message-ID: <9f30880e.244bb45e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:19:10 EDT Subject: NRR: Paging Gemini To: leodrava69@hotmail.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: KidOnix@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey its Ryan.. whats up?.. e-mail me.. or call me (650)317-3145 :) later, Ryan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 22:27:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 781 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 22:27:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 772 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 22:27:46 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 22:27:46 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 3OHYa28861 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:26:45 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <97f0aec6.244bb623@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:26:43 EDT Subject: Tha Weekend Breakdown (Harmony Revue) To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well it goes a little somthing like this (c'mon bear with me on this cracked out sunday) Saturday day I lag a little and then head my way over to CENTRAL PARK Fremont style. Thanks to Rob there's a local little shindig going. It must have been a weekend for house because we had some dope sets to listen to and BEAUTIFUL weather. Sunshine, light breeze and lots of shade to chill in. For those of you that think this park is a hole in the wall... reconsider next time there's a party there... It's a HUGE Lake with tons of grass and playgrounds... OH yes... that reminds me, ALLERGIES! hahah but I saw quite a few people there, got to get a little sunburn and just relax. Saturday night was HARmOnY... so I pick my friend and my other friend who I added to my carpool at the park. One more person and we're on our way to the Troom. Got there about 8:45 and there's already plenty of kids camped out... Get my ticket from Tony and establish my place in line. Presales first... everyone else got let in at 11, which kind of sucked, but the party didn't really get started until after midnight so it was ok. Setup: THANK GOD FOR HARMONY! this was refreshing to have three rooms and a different area for the main room.. it didn't really feel like the Troom at all. The main problems I noticed were bleeding sound from the jungle room to the chill room (the chill room sound system was a little lacking) Also I think the fog machine broke at some point and you could barely see anything? Decorations were beautiful.. I liked the disco ball flowers, those were cute.. and I noticed the puzzle pieces returned from the first Innersence (oops.. I took one of those home with me after that party..) It was not about trance last night, OH NO! it was about Jungle house and tech house! oh yes! Max-! I hope you got your mic to work bettah.. it just wasn't coming through like it should have been. Good job on all the jungle dj's parts, though... yummy drum and bass. The main room I was kind of in and out of.. dispite limited capacity it was still pretty packed.. I got so claustrophobic at one point that I opted to escape to the first aid room where some dissapointing things met my eyes. Everyone was passing out from the heat, throwing up, freaking out.. some variation of that. The woman in there (Donna?) does a wonderful job with people though.. i just wanted to take a minute to appreciate her for helping these kids. True, it could have been prevented, but it's nice to know someone can help when they need it. can I just say one thing?? ANGEL ALANIS rocks my fucking world!! It truly was a different set from what I'm used to and that room was just Going off!! his mixing technique makes me shiver.. .and those buildups?!?!? Dear lord... I just fainted thinking about it.... Also for the last set Li played incredibly as well.... by that time my back was saying "SIT DOWN!" so I did, but what a great party =) It was sort of like SFR heaven... I'm glad I held out to party these past couple of weeks because the crowd last night made it all worth it.... Half the list must have been there! No really... I"m convinced ON a kind of down note my friend overdosed and was taken to the hospital, which I did not find out about until the morning. Luckily he is ok, I'm really thankful for that, but when he passed out someone stole the bag that had his stuff in it. (man these people piss me off) but if anyone has seen or has possesion of this Old skool grey polyester addidas jacket with black and white piping across the chest, it's my dad's and I had lent it to him. I really need to try and get it back, but I'm afraid thanx to the dishonest people in this world that it's gone. People are getting kind of desperate about parties lately.. I guess ten people jumped down through a skylight on the roof into the rafters to get into the party?? OK blah blah blah.. the only thing clear in my mind is that we need to start a sober/drug information booth ASAP. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva PS> Terry! i'm ready for my training.. I'm the new intern, hi! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 22:35:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4030 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 22:35:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 4021 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 22:35:32 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 22:35:32 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 3IMPa26488 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:34:26 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <4821ad95.244bb7ec@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:34:20 EDT Subject: harmony P.S. To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My mom showed up to Harmony.. She was staying in Berkely for the weekend and wanted to come say hi to me. Unfortunately she didn't feel like waiting in line and decided not to bother.. I vote for a parents VIP line! hehe that way my mom could have just come and danced with us for a little while and then left to go to bed. I doubt she'd make it past midnight anyways! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 22:38:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6118 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 22:38:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 6109 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 22:38:50 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 22:38:50 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id rJDKa21001; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:38:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:38:00 EDT Subject: Heh: Being sober..at a rave/Weekend sucked To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com, eeelips@yahoo.com, jw@wgdsearch.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Reply-To: MissNexa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/18/99 1:46:00 PM PST, SpNkTrVisN@aol.com writes: << what ever happened to doing what pleases you, not others? -ever >> When people come up to you and start messing with you (i.e. touching/rubbing/caressing your feather boa or rubbing your arm for instance), at every party, it becomes rather tiresome. Wanna do drugs? I can't stop you, but..sheesh, learn some self-control. *This wasn't directed to anyone personally, FYI. Hope everyone had fun at Harmony or MHz.... the DJ they hired at the prom (Climax Productions or something like that).. I just won't even go there. Might as well have not even bothered mixing at all, from what my ears heard. Ugh..... almost stepped in shroom*puke when I was barefoot. Okay, enough yappering, everyone have a good and chirpy Monday....... :) and the beat goes on... --> Miss Nexa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 23:21:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19584 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 23:21:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 19572 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 23:21:41 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 23:21:41 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-198-229.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.229]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA02299 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002701be89fa$fdfc1ce0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: References: <4821ad95.244bb7ec@aol.com> Subject: Adults at parties - was [Re: harmony P.S.] Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:24:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have been meaning to mention this for a while but keep forgetting... Adults at parties, and no... I don't mean supervision, is such an awesome thing!!! There have been numerous times where I went to a party or a club (1015) and noticed older people there (40+) just getting off to music. I have seen parents with their candy-raver kids, older couples and even a few old timers (60+) having great times. Everytime I see something like that, I cannot tell you the tingles that go through my spine. The large generation gaps tend to disassociate themselves, in general, in almost every regard. I have always found this terribly discomforting! We are all human beings, with hopes and dreams... I never understood why things like music had to be such a deterring factor for association. I wish I could see things like this more often (i.e. A 50 year young guy/girl enjoying the trance just as much as I am... if not more). Shiite, I still remember when my mom went crazy over B.T.'s latest CD. Why can't more people be like that ?!?! =) Just a thoughtburst... Love & Music, Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 3:34 PM Subject: harmony P.S. > My mom showed up to Harmony.. She was staying in Berkely for the weekend > and wanted to come say hi to me. Unfortunately she didn't feel like waiting > in line and decided not to bother.. I vote for a parents VIP line! hehe that > way my mom could have just come and danced with us for a little while and > then left to go to bed. I doubt she'd make it past midnight anyways! > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the tekno diva > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 18 23:51:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26349 invoked by uid 6000); 18 Apr 1999 23:51:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 26340 invoked from network); 18 Apr 1999 23:51:16 -0000 Received: from send102.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 1999 23:51:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990418235307.17289.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.105.189.128] by send102.yahoomail.com; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:53:07 PDT Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:53:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Violette Subject: <~My thoughts on Harmony~> To: SF Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Harmony Harmony Harmony…. What else can you say about a party like that…This was the SHIT!! At first when we walked in it seemed a if it was going to be another night at 2nd and Crakson!!! But no the good people at Harmony brought down the house with there Billy bad ass Jungle room! MC Duh was tearing it up. This man flows like beer into a glass! And I can't believe I'm saying this but I felt as if the vibe was superb! That's very strange for a 2nd and Jackson get together. I just want to say hi to all the wonderful people I met and kicked it with. And well you all know who you are. So I just wana give ya much love!! And just in case you did see me and didn't know it I was wearing a yellow Cybertech vest, A lot of beads and my baggy blue jeans. Plur, Chris P.S. What up to all my peeps out here in Squarefield! Keep the vibe alive ya'll! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 00:31:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3815 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 00:31:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3806 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 00:31:15 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 00:31:15 -0000 Received: from SHermens@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vUGLa24965 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:30:21 -0400 (EDT) From: SHermens@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:30:18 EDT Subject: Review: Harmony Springtime Flower Festival 04-17-99 To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SHermens@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I arrived to the party around 12:00 and it took about 20 minutes to get in, even though I had a presale. I was happy I was able to get in considering I had a presale ticket for Tickle and wasn't able to get in. As soon as I got in I was hit by the hard hitting bass of Science, which was the shit. I walked around to check the setup. The house room had lots of light and decorations, and two big walls of speakers. There was somebody dancing on, or behind the speakers and someone just wearing his boxers, which I though was pretty funny. The house music was sick and I really liked all the light it seemed really bright. Which was kind of tight but you know my eyesight .(I like it a lil more darkness) I went into the "down beat daisy" chill room and decided to take a breather. It was pretty crowded but I found a nice blanket to sit down on. They had some pretty strange music in there, sometimes it felt like a train was coming at you. I went next to the jungle/drum and bass room and it was killer. They had some people making the music on the keyboards and drum machines and it rocked, next up I think was Hak and MC Duh was flowing. I must have been there for a while cause I remember Duh saying "its 4:20!" The only problem I really had was it was hot and not much ventilation unless you sat in front of the fan. All in all I gave the party a 7/10, I had a lot of fun I just would have liked some trance. See all you pep's next weekend Scott From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 01:08:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14386 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 01:08:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 14376 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 01:08:29 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 01:08:29 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA21336 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:07:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca39-27.ix.netcom.com(209.110.233.155) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021326; Sun Apr 18 20:07:27 1999 Message-ID: <000801be8a00$96f31a20$03000004@ix.netcom.com> From: "Happy Kids" To: Subject: SPAM! paging Mike from Endeavor Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:04:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE89C5.E9090E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE89C5.E9090E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi! if anyone knows Mike that throws Endeavor (tonight) or knows how to = get ahold of him (minus his pager number), please leave me a voicemail = IMMEDIATELY!!! thanks a bunch!!!=20 lotsa love -hki ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE89C5.E9090E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi! if anyone knows Mike that throws = Endeavor=20 (tonight) or knows how to get ahold of him (minus his pager number), = please=20 leave me a voicemail IMMEDIATELY!!!
 
thanks a bunch!!!
 
lotsa love = -hki
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE89C5.E9090E40-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 01:32:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22106 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 01:32:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 22094 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 01:32:45 -0000 Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 01:32:45 -0000 Received: from canuck (dynamic56.pm09.mv.best.com [209.24.242.56]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id VAA22017; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005801be8a04$2e6dc280$26f218d1@canuck> From: "binary fineboy" To: Cc: Subject: thoughts on 2nd and Jackson parties Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:30:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01BE89C9.7EA7A3A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01BE89C9.7EA7A3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I didnt go to Harmony but from what I've read the reviews seem positive. = I didnt go because I just wasnt down for another 2nd and Jax party. = Its not that 2nd and Jax is a bad place to throw a party, I mean ... its = a big warehouse where you can throw a party ... pretty basic but it does = the job. The biggest problem is the way parties are thrown there. I = mean HOW MANY PARTIES HAVE BEEN THROWN AT 2ND AND JACKSON?!?! and STILL = PROMOTERS CANT FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE FIT INSIDE COMFORTABLY? =20 Lets look at the past couple months ... POPSIKLE was a fiasco. But = everyone should have learned ... if you are gonna sell 2200 presales = then DONT LET PEOPLE BUY tix at the door. Pangea had 2800 people .. I = didnt go but everyone I talked to who did said it sucked because there = was no room to dance. I thought F8 was a great party ... it was a = little crowded but not too bad, ventalation was good (nice big fans) and = they handled tickets well. (2000 presales .. NONE at the door) I = think 2000 is a good number for a 2nd and Jax party. Tickle COULD have = been a great party if they had stuck to the 1800 they advertised ... but = Im sorry there was no way in HELL there was 1800 people in that place. = I havent seen it that packed since Origin. And once again the presale = fiasco ... people were getting in without presales and people with = presales got turned away. Ok fine .. blame it on the Fire Marshall ... = but if there were only 1800 people there it NEVER would have been a = problem. I mean it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you cram = 2500 people in to second and jackson your party is going to suck. If = you want to throw a party at 2nd and Jax offer 1500-2000 presales only. = Apparently tickets at the door only causes problems. To be fair to = people out of town who cant get to a record store offer tickets online = at www.sfrecords.com .... I bought my tix for rebirth there like 2 hours = before the party .. and when we got there we just walked up ... gave = them our name and a confirmation code and we were in ... no hassles. I really fail to see why every weekend at 2nd and Jax is some new = adventure ... will promoters please learn from other peoples mistakes = and realize that we ravers arent hard to please. Just give us some = decent music and space to dance and for the most part we are pretty damn = happy. But try and cram tonz of people into a party and I dont care who = you have spinning or how much time and effort you spent on decorations = ... your party is going to suck. so anyways .. enough ranting. Props to harmony to making 2nd and = Jackson a cool place to party. I hope other promoters follow suit. ryan ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01BE89C9.7EA7A3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I didnt go to Harmony but from what = I've read=20 the reviews seem positive.  I didnt go because I just wasnt down = for=20 another 2nd and Jax party.   Its not that 2nd and Jax is a bad = place=20 to throw a party, I mean ... its a big warehouse where you can throw a = party ...=20 pretty basic but it does the job.   The biggest problem is the = way=20 parties are thrown there.  I mean HOW MANY PARTIES HAVE BEEN THROWN = AT 2ND=20 AND JACKSON?!?! and STILL PROMOTERS CANT FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE FIT = INSIDE=20 COMFORTABLY? 
 
Lets look at the past couple months ... POPSIKLE was = a=20 fiasco.  But everyone should have learned ... if you are gonna sell = 2200=20 presales then DONT LET PEOPLE BUY tix at the door.  Pangea had 2800 = people=20 .. I didnt go but everyone I talked to who did said it sucked because = there was=20 no room to dance.  I thought F8 was a great party ... it was a = little=20 crowded but not too bad, ventalation was good (nice big fans) and they = handled=20 tickets well.  (2000 presales .. NONE at the door)   I = think 2000=20 is a good number for a 2nd and Jax party.  Tickle COULD have been a = great=20 party if they had stuck to the 1800 they advertised ... but Im sorry = there was=20 no way in HELL there was 1800 people in that place.   I havent = seen it=20 that packed since Origin.  And once again the presale fiasco ... = people=20 were getting in without presales and people with presales got turned = away. =20 Ok fine .. blame it on the Fire Marshall ... but if there were only 1800 = people=20 there it NEVER would have been a problem.
 
I mean it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure = out that if=20 you cram 2500 people in to second and jackson your party is going to = suck. =20 If you want to throw a party at 2nd and Jax offer 1500-2000 presales=20 only.   Apparently tickets at the door only causes = problems.  To=20 be fair to people out of town who cant get to a record store offer = tickets=20 online at www.sfrecords.com = .... I bought=20 my tix for rebirth there like 2 hours before the party .. and when we = got there=20 we just walked up ... gave them our name and a confirmation code and we = were in=20 ... no hassles.
 
I really fail to see why every weekend at 2nd and = Jax is some=20 new adventure ... will promoters please learn from other peoples = mistakes and=20 realize that we ravers arent hard to please.   Just give us = some=20 decent music and space to dance and for the most part we are pretty damn = happy.  But try and cram tonz of people into a party and I dont = care who=20 you have spinning or how much time and effort you spent on decorations = ... your=20 party is going to suck.
 
so anyways .. enough ranting.  Props to harmony = to making=20 2nd  and Jackson a cool place to party.  I hope other = promoters follow=20 suit.
 
ryan
------=_NextPart_000_0055_01BE89C9.7EA7A3A0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 01:45:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29041 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 01:45:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 29027 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 01:45:45 -0000 Received: from law-f237.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.202) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 01:45:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 70409 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 01:45:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419014519.70408.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.162.48.63 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:45:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.162.48.63] From: "Mandi Girl" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Blink 182 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:45:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I went to the Blink concert today and was surprised to see so many candyravers. I know Blink is becoming more popular, but I was just shocked. If any of you where there, I was the one in the green tank top dancing on the white truck in the middle of the crowd. The concert kicked ass. So I guess when I onced asked about incorpurating punk music into the rave scene, it wasn't too bad of an idea. Much Love, Mandi Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 02:00:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2113 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 02:00:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2103 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 02:00:12 -0000 Received: from smtp.well.com (206.80.6.147) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 02:00:12 -0000 Received: from well.com (nobody@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA12906; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from phred@localhost) by well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA11016; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:00:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Fred Heutte" Message-Id: <9904181900.ZM11014@well.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:00:04 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Jay" "Adults at parties - was [Re: harmony P.S.]" (Apr 18, 5:24pm) References: <4821ad95.244bb7ec@aol.com> <002701be89fa$fdfc1ce0$77019665@cuhelp.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: "Jay" , Subject: Re: Adults at parties - was [Re: harmony P.S.] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, as one of those geriatric types, I think it's important to note that when all of this got rolling almost 10 years ago, there *was* a wide variety of ages, genders, races, attire, etc. At least at many of the larger events, the age spectrum has dramatically compressed and the average age has steadily gone downward over the years. I've been to events here in Portland where the average age seemed around 17 and almost nobody appeared to be much over college age, while I'm about twice that. There are some of us diehards who still go out because we want to see the DJs who really get things moving (like Kenny Larkin last night here in Portland). But I always feel more at home at a lot of the SF parties where there is more of a balanced and varied crowd. A lot of times, as you get older (these days I'd say that would be 25 or higher!), you get a lot of these bemused looks. I get a lot of odd reactions in Portland. Years ago (this hasn't happened recently) I used to walk into a party and within 30 seconds someone would come over and say, "are you a cop?" When I indicated no, sure enough the next question would be, "do you have any ___ (fill in with one of usual party favors"? And so I would have to say no again. The notion that someone of nearly decrepit age might actually be there for the music seems too much for at least a few people. The other reaction is kind of a supportive check-in -- "are you having a good time?" Well, yes I am, but I just tell them that instead of explaining about the Hardkisses at DNA in 1991, Toon Towns, Connection III, FMRs at Berkeley and Bonny Doon, Doc at King Street, the Mission Rock, Ameba, F&F, 1015 at 5:30 am with Markie, DJing in the Oakland Coliseum parking lot during a Dead show, Il Pirata, watching Deaks play the original "Minotaur" on an overlook on 101 under a starlit sky on the coast, and so on. After all, all of us have those kinds of memories (and that's just a few from my SF excursions). So I just respond and nod and say, "yeah, it's cool." phred From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 02:30:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10540 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 02:30:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 10510 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 02:30:34 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 02:30:34 -0000 Received: from GoscarArch@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vEECa25513 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:29:31 -0400 (EDT) From: GoscarArch@aol.com Message-ID: <96f0e067.244beeff@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:29:19 EDT Subject: HeLLo Everyone To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: GoscarArch@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello everyone :) my name is greg. i go to college in washington DC, but i'm moving to berkeley for the summer (may 28'th) with two or three friends of mine. i've never been to the west coast but i've heard good things about the scene in san francisco area. so anyways i'm just trying to meet people to hang out with, go to parties, show me around a little when i get there... i'm fairly new to the scene but i like it a lot so far.... i listen to trance mostly, paul van dyke (saw him at twilo in NYC last week, it was great), christopher lawrence..... i'm getting really excited to come to SF, explore and get to know a new city, meet cool people... i'll be looking for a job when i get there, probably at a coffee-shop or something like that (i'm an anthropology major and was thinking about looking for some sort of intern but i don't think it'll happen), so if anyone knows any cool places that might be hiring at the end of may or beginning of april i'd love to hear about it...... ok, well, i guess thats about it. i'd love to hear from any of you more about SF and the scene there.... everyone have a good night :) :) greg :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 02:41:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14483 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 02:41:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 14474 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 02:41:28 -0000 Received: from law-f168.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.231) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 02:41:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 15825 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 02:41:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419024113.15824.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:41:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: house party``epiphany``**~Harmony~** Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:41:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey crack monkeys, =) just kidding. i have had such a wonderful weekend and i hope you all enjoyed yourselves where ever you ended up and what ever you did. i spent my whole weekend going from one party to the next and have to say it was a weekend filled with phat music and lovely people. it was great to see everyone out and having a good time. on fri night i went to the house party in berkely that max and nman were at, being that its right up the street from my place and they were to have some nice jungle going. seriously, if you like jungle, you guys should check out this house. ive been there for jungle parties before and it kicks. it was really a chill party, and the djs and mc's threw down some nice jungle and freestyles. saturday took me to epiphany for some more jungle madness. i didn't get there til the last half of the jungle life crews set but am sooo glad i caught them. these guys have great energy and beats, i look forward to seeing them again. sat night--harmony. second and jax was beautiful. the best i have ever seen it. crowded and hot but still the best party there that ive been to. it was great to see everyone out and looking so beautiful and colorful. the music left nothing to be desired--a wonderful downtempo room (i hope to see way more parties with rooms like this), great tech house--angel alanis was amazing. last night though i was all about the jungle. it was great to finally see a room at that location with jungle and especially the first room you walk into. i have to give it up to mc duh, the djs and junglist last night. (max, after this weekend, im surprised you can still talk-nice work) mad props to the harmony crew for all the work and positive energy they put into the party--it definately showed. ok, sorry this was extensive--i just had to give credit where it was definately due for my weekend-a junglist's and partykid's dream. =) can't wait to see you all again. im not even going into names--that would be insane, i love you all. love and happiness sarah ps leo, we didn't miss you since we were all so druged out. j/k. i was asking about you--i miss you and hope you see you soon love. Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 02:47:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18755 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 02:47:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 18741 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 02:47:02 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 02:47:02 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iEDBa00791; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:38:49 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <6e180ec4.244bf137@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:38:47 EDT Subject: Re: Blink 182 To: candygirl5384@hotmail.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk NO! i love punk! I wanted to go to the concert really badly, see Blink 182 and get some snowboarding in, but you know... Harmony calls. Next time they play down here we should have a raver concert day. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 03:35:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5894 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 03:35:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 5844 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 03:35:41 -0000 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 03:35:41 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id UAA04315; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:35:39 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Day Breaked :o) To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yo! hey, thaks to the Epiphany crew and all the party people who showed up! i really had a great time. that location is absilutely beautiful! roll out a couple of Webers and you've got the ultimate summer BBQ spot, folks! my Saturday actually started around 7:30am when i rolled into Davis and got myself a primo parking spot right next to campus so i could enjoy the last Picnic Day of the 20th century. it was a really fun day at my Alma Mater, and i had a great time at the alumni pancake breakfast, watching the parade, donating a copy of me new rekkid to KDVS (and making a donation to the fundraiser as well!), stopping by the bookstore to get a new hat and a Picnic Day t-shirt and just strolling the campus feeling the memories slowly come back. a lot has changed at UCD in the last 3 years, but a lot has stayed the same. to those of you who are at UCD right now, trust me, you're going to miss it more than you think. do whatever you can to stay there as long as you possibly can. =) GO AGS! when i got to Daybreaks, the party was rollin hard, yet under control and everyone seemed to be having a great time. the music was great, the sound was perfect and everyone had a smile on their face. The Jungle Life Crew... man-o-man! okay, 7 DJs and 6 turntables, okay? i dunno... they had a rockin' sound and when the scratches hit the beats, it was pretty exciting and the crowd was eatin' it up. the best part about those cats was the every one of them looked like they were having the time of their life! each of 'em was laughing and smiling and just having a great time. it was rather intimidating having to follow that kind of showmanship. i tried to keep the beats fat and funky and threw in some new music from folks here in the SoCal scene (Myths & Microchips, Neosoul and of course some new GTA) and also brought back a couple of classic thick & acidy breaks that make me think of the older times. :o) i hope you folks dug it! it was wonderful getting to put faces to email addresses :D and it was really nice to see a lot of folks who i haven't seen in months and months. y'all gotta visit SoCal some time! :o) peace -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 04:30:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1219 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 04:30:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 1203 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 04:30:45 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd111.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 04:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 11491 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 04:30:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419043018.11490.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.150.159 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:30:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.150.159] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: punk ass duh? all day long Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:30:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeh, the duh? was the shit! flowed like butta. i tink this guy was the man of the moment this weekend. hopefully, i'll have the chance to have him mc over me again... hak ps. harmony was dope (haven't been to 2nd/jackson since siren), but the shiz was HOT!!!!!!! urban_assault[99] info:408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 04:47:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10450 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 04:47:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 10308 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 04:47:42 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 04:47:42 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vVMAa05709 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:46:54 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <674ed024.244c0f3c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:46:52 EDT Subject: wow! that's all i can say... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, what an incredible weekend!! it was beautiful..... friday i went swiming with an old friend, and sadly enough, our adventure ended up in kiaser and she had to get 4 stitches on the bottom of her chin cuz we were doing handstands in the shallow end and she slipped.. but she kept a really beautiful attitude the whole time, and everything worked out fine.... saturday i went out to fremont for rob's party, saw a few sfravers 'trice and jenn jenn, and i'm not sure who else.... it was a great day, great whether, and great music! we managed to bbq, and everything! i wasn't planning on going to harmony... a friend of my friend's boyfriend claimed that he was on the guest list and was going to get us in with him if we wanted... and we were supossed to meet him... well, the guy flaked on us, and we were already at 2nd and jackson, and it sounded so nice from outside... so i figured, that i would check to see if the guy was even on the list himself, or if he was just full of shit... well, the problem was, the people in charge of the line would only let me go to check and made my friends stay outside of the line since they had stopped letting in anyone without presales.... it turns out that he wasn't on the list at all...well, i ended up waiting about 2 1/2 hours before we finally got inside, a big thankx to the harmony crew members who had to deal with all my crap and thankx again for letting me and my friends pay to get in, long after they stopped letting people pay at the door!! so the party itself: great decorations, the lazers were dope, i got inside just in time to hear christopher lawrence's set, which was my main motivation for going last nite! it was dope, i got a chance to talk to him later and thank him for the beautiful music not just last nite, but the first time i heard him spin, last summer at a lil party on top of a burger king.... well, anyways, i won't bore u all with that story too! needless to say, despite the crowdedness (talked to the head of security, he counted 2000+ people let in) it was a great party!! much love to all of the harmony crew for creating a beautiful nite!! well, time for me to sleep... gotta get up for school in the morning... yuck! oh well.... nite nite kidz!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 05:25:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22145 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 05:25:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 22133 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 05:25:08 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 05:25:08 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vNCQa28860 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:24:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <6f54655f.244c180d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:24:29 EDT Subject: Re: punk ass duh? all day long To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/19/99 12:30:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dj_hak@hotmail.com writes: << yeh, the duh? was the shit! flowed like butta. i tink this guy was the man of the moment this weekend. hopefully, i'll have the chance to have him mc over me again... >> yes much respect to the $6 dollar man they call the mc duh. boy i dont think i would have been able to hang mcing at 4 different parties in one weekend and at the same time getting barely any sleep, or no sleep at all. what is your secret oh mighty one?? DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 05:33:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25635 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 05:33:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 25627 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 05:33:14 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 05:33:14 -0000 Received: from BikeChicky@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vBISa06124 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:32:33 -0400 (EDT) From: BikeChicky@aol.com Message-ID: <9ca55cba.244c19ef@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:32:31 EDT Subject: NRR: My party free saturday night...Shana Morrison To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Reply-To: BikeChicky@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Instead of dancing on Saturday night I went to a concert in Walnut Creek that was absolutely amazing. It was a blues/folk thing with some MINDBLOWING guitarists. The first guy was more folk like....I don't remember his whole name...something on the lines of Dave Von D_____. I do know, however, that he is quite popular in folk circles. Following him was an act that left me breathless....Shana Morrison (daughter of the great Van Morrison) and Roy Rodgers. This woman has an incredible voice. She sounds quite a bit like her father, except without the accent. Roy Rodgers.....I don't think he needs much explaination, the name says it all. His guitar playing is top notch. Man, you should see him play the 12 string, his slide skills are absolutely astonishing. Together they make a great show. I highly recommend seeing either of them. Shana Morrison has a band called Caledonia which frequently plays in Marin. She is actually playing this Friday in Fairfax I believe, so catch the show if you can. Amanda From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 05:36:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27705 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 05:36:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 27696 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 05:36:33 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 05:36:33 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-p2 (mmf17.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.87]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA11550; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904190536.WAA11550@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: goodvibe@geocities.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:38:51 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dude let's not EVEN talk about people's cheap dirty butts, ok? At least my butt doesn't leave smudges on the window when I moon people. I would suggest washing more frequently. I know its easy to get all dry and chafed with all those showers in between jobs, so I suggest a light moisturizing lotion perhaps. That should keep it nice and soft. Rafie On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:04:08 -0700, goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... >No Rafie!! I said 50 mg. You cheap butt slut! You intestine poker! Butt >dart champion! Oh yeah... >=Paul*E*Wog > >WOO1121@aol.com wrote: >> >> Uhhhh, you told me a few months ago that you take like 500 mg of 5-HTP >after >> parties. Maybe you were just...LYING TO ME!!!!! >> >> Rafie >> ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 06:00:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5928 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 06:00:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 5893 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 06:00:50 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 06:00:50 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vEHGa18186 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:27:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <26363f9f.244c18c3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:27:31 EDT Subject: Re: house party``epiphany``**~Harmony~** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/18/99 10:41:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gemini8e@hotmail.com writes: << seriously, if you like jungle, you guys should check out this house. ive been there for jungle parties before and it kicks. it was really a chill party, and the djs and mc's threw down some nice jungle and freestyles. >> i was at this party too. i was the black kid with the no limit tshirt and i jumped on the tables at 2:05 am throwing down the old school wikkidness before my radio show. well see yall next time.... DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 06:07:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9843 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 06:07:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 9812 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 06:07:42 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 06:07:42 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-p2 (mmf17.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.87]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03541 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904190607.XAA03541@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Rafie" Subject: *Harmony* Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:10:04 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thank you Harmony crew for properly transforming the warehouse from its usual filthiness into a dope location! Even if only for a night. I haven't seen it look that good since, uh..your last party there. I guess it reached the 1500 capacity (or was that only the # of presales...seemed like more) because it was damn packed for a while. Also, it was reaaaally hot, but then someone showed me the best spot which was paradoxically right in front of the DJ booth in the house/trance room. Anyway. Props to people who dressed up, too..we certainly did look like a field of beautiful thrpringtime wildflowerth Okay, highlights: -5 min after we got in crazy shit went down in the main room. There was an open skylight, and like 10 people were climbing in from the roof, and hanging and swinging from the rafters and dropping on the floor, like ninjas!! It was OUT OF CONTROL!!! I even took a picture. -Christopher Lawrence's set sounded tight, but there WAY too many people in there at that time, so I couldn't enjoy it -multiple vomitings (not a good highlight, but seemed like there was a lot) -Angel Alanis' set was sooo dope, he worked through some hard house, hard trance, and I dunno what, but I really really liked it cause I haven't heard records like that very much -Nico being a lil gogo diva during Angel's set. YAAAAY YOU WERE SO ENERGETIC!! awww! -When me and Amanda were walking through the chill room and saw Paul*E*Wog passed out on the floor with his pants undone -Eric being drama -(just kiddin about that last one) Anyway, congrats Harmony on a good party. Rafie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 06:39:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19880 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 06:39:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 19832 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 06:39:39 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 06:39:39 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vFHLa18186; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:38:51 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:38:49 EDT Subject: Re: Blink 182 To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Blink 182 punk?!?!...hahahahaha just had to do that dean* Green Day is HARDCORE! << NO! i love punk! I wanted to go to the concert really badly, see Blink 182 and get some snowboarding in, but you know... Harmony calls. Next time they play down here we should have a raver concert day. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 06:46:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21665 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 06:46:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 21647 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 06:46:16 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 06:46:16 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id rSDJa25512; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:44:59 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:44:58 EDT Subject: Re: *Harmony* To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk u cant be serious!!!!....did that really happen...DETAILS PEOPLE!!! DETAILS!!!...hahahaha dean* << -5 min after we got in crazy shit went down in the main room. There was an open skylight, and like 10 people were climbing in from the roof, and hanging and swinging from the rafters and dropping on the floor, like ninjas!! It was OUT OF CONTROL!!! I even took a picture. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 07:03:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27681 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 07:03:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 27673 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 07:03:41 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 07:03:41 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.240] (libya-240.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.240]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00178 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:03:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:43:27 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: my harmony review Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh, wait, i didn't go. never mind... ;] ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 07:13:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1320 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 07:13:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 1227 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 07:13:02 -0000 Received: from law-f204.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 07:13:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 82144 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 07:12:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419071234.82143.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:12:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: CanContrl@aol.com, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *Harmony* Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:12:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was with rafie when it happened. it was crazy. some kids wanted to get in a little too much. =) love and happiness sarah >From: CanContrl@aol.com >Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com >To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: *Harmony* >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:44:58 EDT > >u cant be serious!!!!....did that really happen...DETAILS PEOPLE!!! >DETAILS!!!...hahahaha >dean* > ><< -5 min after we got in crazy shit went down in the main room. There was > an open skylight, and like 10 people were climbing in from the roof, and > hanging and swinging from the rafters and dropping on the floor, like > ninjas!! It was OUT OF CONTROL!!! I even took a picture. >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 07:26:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5861 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 07:26:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 5853 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 07:26:45 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?GZN/WUrJUiK+K2MXiIOcC+t1T+R1MSWh?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 07:26:45 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id AAA29177; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:26:42 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:26:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: CanContrl@aol.com cc: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *Harmony* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > << -5 min after we got in crazy shit went down in the main room. There was > an open skylight, and like 10 people were climbing in from the roof, and > hanging and swinging from the rafters and dropping on the floor, like > ninjas!! It was OUT OF CONTROL!!! I even took a picture. >> > Did you hear the response in the crowd when I asked where my ninjuhz were at? Unconventional entrance methods are a trademark of the ninjuh massive. Take heed, we are among you. 10-4, ninjuh paddy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 07:32:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7098 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 07:32:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 7090 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 07:32:57 -0000 Received: from mail3.sirius.com (205.134.253.133) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 07:32:57 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok02--090.sirius.net [205.134.244.90]) by mail3.sirius.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA22995; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00a201be8a32$e091c500$5af486cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "SFraves peeps" Subject: terpsichorean Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:01:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk terpsichorean (turp-si-kuh-REE-uhn, turp-si-KOR-ee-uhn, -KORE-) adjective Of or relating to dancing. noun A dancer. [From Terpsichore, The Muse of dancing and choral singing in Greek mythology.] "Terpsichorean experts are lamenting the fact that it is impossible to develop really conservative dance steps while British dancers are under American influence." In Our Pages: 100, 75 AND 50 Years Ago 1923: Wanton Dance, International Herald Tribune, 20 Jul 1998. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 08:38:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20620 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 08:38:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 20612 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 08:38:12 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 08:38:12 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.62) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:42:00 -0800 Message-ID: <371AEB59.3FE74740@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:37:46 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: SPAM! paging Mike from Endeavor References: <000801be8a00$96f31a20$03000004@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk was endeavor the event thrown last night at 78 minna? i just saw an incredible new face perform. amazing. fresh, intense. if you enjoy trance at all, and you get a chance to hear alias perform, then take it. he may be young, but he floored me. this kid is deep in the music, and he's going to take over. i can see it already. paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 08:47:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22918 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 08:47:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 22909 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 08:47:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 08:47:38 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-122.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.122]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04246; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371AED6D.886AD200@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:46:37 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafie CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions References: <199904190536.WAA11550@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You are just upset because i mooned you out the back window of amanda's car while driving to the thai restaurant after beat down sundayze and there was nothing you could do about it because you had to keep your eyes forward at all times! By the way... did you know that David was licking the spoons in the chinese restaurant we got take-out from. yeah... and he put the spoon back on the table in the same place setting too. Don't ask!!! How do topics start out as 5HTP and end up talking about what you do when you are drunk and high? =Paul*E*Wog Rafie wrote: > > Dude let's not EVEN talk about people's cheap dirty butts, ok? At least my > butt doesn't leave smudges on the window when I moon people. I would > suggest washing more frequently. I know its easy to get all dry and chafed > with all those showers in between jobs, so I suggest a light moisturizing > lotion perhaps. That should keep it nice and soft. > > Rafie > > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:04:08 -0700, > goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... > >No Rafie!! I said 50 mg. You cheap butt slut! You intestine poker! Butt > >dart champion! Oh yeah... > >=Paul*E*Wog > > > >WOO1121@aol.com wrote: > >> > >> Uhhhh, you told me a few months ago that you take like 500 mg of 5-HTP > >after > >> parties. Maybe you were just...LYING TO ME!!!!! > >> > >> Rafie > >> ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 08:53:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24148 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 08:53:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 24128 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 08:53:01 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 08:53:01 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-122.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.122]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA07069 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371AEEB3.17CA5D@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:52:04 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Texas Cop Becomes Mexican Drug Lord Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Texas Cop Becomes Mexican Drug Lord .c The Associated Press By NIKO PRICE MEXICO CITY (AP) -- When he was a rookie cop in rural Texas making $3.17 an hour, his bosses said he had ``a long way to go.'' Gilberto Salinas did go a long way, but not the way they hoped. When he finally was stopped two decades later, he was making $22 million a year as a lieutenant to one of the world's biggest drug smugglers. Today Salinas is a marked man in a Mexican jail, wanted alive by the United States -- and dead by the former associates he has ratted out. While a Mexican court tries him for drug smuggling, money laundering and organized crime, the United States is requesting his extradition. He could be the first suspect to be tried under a pending U.S.-Mexico temporary extradition treaty. In his journey from small-town cop to big-time smuggler, Salinas learned the intricacies of the drug trade and became familiar with the complex organization of the world's biggest cocaine and marijuana smuggling group. His enemies want that knowledge, coveted by anti-narcotics officials, to die with him. While Salinas isn't allowed to talk publicly, and his lawyer, Jose Omar Camarillo Garza, didn't answer repeated phone calls, his story can be assembled from public records, a confidential confession he is said to have made to Mexican investigators and interviews with authorities and Salinas' former friends and associates. It offers a look at one American's descent into an underworld of narcotics, money and murder, and a glimpse into the deeply secretive circles of international drug smuggling. The story begins with Salinas' demise eight months ago in the Caribbean resort Cancun. Police acting on a tip picked up an alleged drug smuggler going by the name of Gilberto Garza Garcia. The man soon agreed to cooperate in exchange for protection for him and his relatives, and even promised to lead police to his boss: Alcides Ramon Magana, alias ``El Metro,'' possibly the world's top druglord. But late last year, as police took him under guard to Cancun to capture El Metro, the suspect managed to slip away, according to a top Mexican justice official barred by law from speaking on the record. It was weeks before he was recaptured trying to enter Venezuela with false documents. He was returned to Mexico City. Then came a tip that opened the case. U.S. officials contacted Mexican judicial authorities with a request: They wanted to compare Garza Garcia's fingerprints with a fugitive from Texas by the name of Gilberto Salinas. The prints were a match. Confronted, Salinas opened up and gave authorities even more details of his smuggling activities. In all, prosecutors say, his confessions provide one of the most detailed looks ever into the world's largest drug-smuggling organization. According to a confession obtained by The Associated Press and dated Oct. 8, 1998, he provided the identities of the top officials in the group, detailed their smuggling routes and listed houses, hotels and discotheques they own. He implicated Mario Villanueva, former governor of the state that includes Cancun. As police prepared to arrest Villanueva on drug smuggling charges, the governor disappeared days before his term was set to end this month. Authorities suddenly realized how big a fish had almost gotten away. There is little in Gilberto Salinas' origins to indicate how far he would go. He was born in 1958 in Donna, Texas, a small town in the Rio Grande Valley near the Mexican border. His family lived in a one-story, wood-slat house in the town's roughest neighborhood. Salinas went to Donna public schools and is described by those who knew him as a mediocre student who spent much of his time playing pool in bars. When he graduated, he enrolled at nearby Panamerican University, where he majored in criminology for two years before dropping out. Salinas took a series of short-lived jobs: a painter, a fumigator, an employee at a seed company and at the local water department. But he found his first steady work in 1979 as a Donna police officer, for $3.17 an hour. His first evaluation, dated Jan. 1, 1980, was less than stellar. ``Officer Salinas is a Rookie officer and still has a long way to go,'' it reads. Nonetheless, and despite a three-day suspension for a barroom brawl, the larger police department in neighboring Weslaco soon offered Salinas a job for $750 a month. In May 1980, he took it. It didn't last. In December 1982, Weslaco police records show, Salinas was fired after internal affairs investigations into allegations that included burglary, loan fraud, associating with gang members and selling drugs out of his patrol car. He was never prosecuted on any of those allegations, but others cropped up soon enough. In April 1983, he pleaded guilty to possession of marijuana and got three years of probation. In 1988, he pleaded guilty to conspiracy to sell marijuana and received 10 years of probation. The quantities kept getting bigger. In October 1990, a grand jury indictment alleges, Salinas agreed to buy 3,000 pounds of marijuana from a government informant, a major shipment by any count. According to prosecutors, Salinas loaded a $405,000 down payment into the spare tire of a truck and went to the parking lot of a Whataburger restaurant in nearby Brownsville. The informant turned the cash over to police, who arrested Salinas and four accomplices. Salinas jumped a $100,000 bail bond, while his accomplices were convicted of drug smuggling and sentenced to 10 years each. One later escaped from federal prison. According to prosecutors, being a fugitive didn't slow Salinas down. In 1992, he was charged in drug cases in Gainesville, Ga., and Houston. He is a fugitive in both cases. In September 1996, Salinas reportedly had a son, and the mother died three days after giving birth in McAllen, Texas. When the obstetrician, Francisco Jusino, was soon murdered, authorities sought Salinas for questioning, Texas newspapers reported. The case is still open, and Salinas was never captured. By then, he was living just across the border in Reynosa, Mexico, working for what was known as the Juarez Cartel, an international drug smuggling organization headed by Amado Carrillo Fuentes. Carrillo Fuentes, a Mexican known as ``Lord of the Skies'' for his use of jumbo jets to carry drug shipments, had managed to muscle into an industry long dominated by the Colombians. While little is known about Salinas' early days in the Fuentes organization, he allied himself with El Metro, a former bodyguard of Carrillo Fuentes who had moved his base to the Caribbean resort of Cancun. El Metro would be in the right place at the right time. More effective enforcement from the United States was making the use of big jets too risky, and the Juarez Cartel was moving drugs in smaller shipments over new routes -- most of them passing through the Caribbean coast of Belize, Guatemala and southern Mexico. When Carrillo Fuentes died during plastic surgery in July 1997, El Metro became a top leader -- some say THE top leader -- of the smuggling organization that grew out of the legacy of the Lord of the Skies. El Metro was the head of the group's operations in southeastern Mexico. And Salinas, Mexican justice officials say, was his No. 2 or No. 3. El Metro enlisted Salinas to move marijuana and cocaine from northern Mexico into the United States in a complex operation that involved plane drops off the coast of Belize and high-speed boats to take the drugs ashore, according to Salinas' confession. The drugs then were smuggled inside gasoline tanker trucks to the northern city of Reynosa, just across the border from McAllen. The group would pay off police in Mexico in exchange for free passage -- $50,000 a shipment, according to Salinas' confession. There, according to the confession, Salinas would repackage the drugs in airtight, 44-pound tubes and have workers swim across the Rio Grande with the floating cylinders. Trucks would be waiting on the other side to take the tubes to McAllen, where they would be repackaged again by another operative, known as ``the Russian,'' into fruit and vegetable trucks and driven to Chicago and New York. Salinas charged $1,200 for a kilogram of cocaine. It was more expensive than most, but he guaranteed delivery. According to the confession, if the shipment didn't arrive, he would pay for it. Altogether, he said, he moved about 1 1/2 tons a month. That works out to an income of $22 million a year. Last month, after police wrapped up months of interrogation, Salinas was formally arrested, and his status changed from protected witness to regular prisoner. He was charged with drug smuggling, money laundering and organized crime, and has gone to trial before Judge Cuauhtemoc Carlock Sanchez. Salinas' case is linked to almost 40 others, most of those arrests made on the basis of information Salinas provided. Together, evidence in the cases already fills 130 volumes -- all of it sealed. Carlock Sanchez said he has worried about Salinas' prospects of making it through the trial, which he estimated would take the full year allowed by law. ``I'm aware that his life could be in danger inside the prison,'' the judge said. ``I asked the prison director to implement security measures.'' And yet Carlock has turned down prosecutors' requests to have Salinas moved from the medium-security Reclusorio Sur on Mexico City's southern outskirts to a better protected facility. The judge said he knows the case and wants to retain control of it. Sending Salinas to another prison would take the suspect out of his jurisdiction. U.S. drug officials have informed the Mexican government that drug smugglers have put out a contract to help Salinas escape and kill him, according to Mexican officials. Even as Mexico puts Salinas on trial, the United States is trying to get him back. Court documents show the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration is requesting Salinas' extradition in at least four cases: the 1990 marijuana smuggling case, the bail-jumping charge and the two 1992 indictments. ``We consider this a significant fugitive that's important to prosecute,'' said Assistant U.S. Attorney Jody Young, based in Brownsville. Under Mexican law, Salinas will be prosecuted first in Mexico, and must serve out his sentence here before he is sent to the United States for trial. But under a 1997 temporary extradition treaty between the United States and Mexico, at the end of his Mexican trial he could be sent to the United States for trial, then back to Mexico to serve out his sentence, and then back to the United States to serve out a sentence there. The U.S. Congress has approved that treaty, but Mexico's Senate is still considering it. The Mexican judicial official said Salinas could be the first suspect extradited under the treaty. If he were brought home, it would only add to a notoriety that surprises those who knew Salinas back in Texas. Jose Perez, a lieutenant in the Weslaco Police Department, was Salinas' best friend from junior high into their early 20s. He still wonders what happened. ``I remember how we used to talk about all the different drug figures in the community,'' he said. ``There were a lot of people who really envied them for amassing so much money, for having big homes, for driving Town Cars, Cadillacs. ``But I'll tell you. For years I've been putting people behind bars for dealing drugs. And I never expected him to go the opposite way.'' AP-NY-04-17-99 1116EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 08:54:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25148 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 08:54:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25139 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 08:54:43 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 08:54:43 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-122.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.122]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA07994 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371AEF20.2DF29E92@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:53:52 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: NYC Cops Hold 14 for Ecstasy Drug Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk NYC Cops Hold 14 for Ecstasy Drug .c The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) -- Undercover narcotics officers arrested 14 people early Saturday at a popular Manhattan nightclub where the drug Ecstasy was being sold, police said. One patron at the Tunnel club suffered a drug overdose and was taken to a hospital during the buy-and-bust operation, said Detective George Nagy, a department spokesman. The nightspot is operated by Peter Gatien, who also owns the Limelight. Last month, he and his wife pleaded guilty to larceny and tax evasion charges. Last year, Gatien was acquitted in a federal narcotics case. Prosecutors claimed he had allowed sales of cocaine and other drugs to his customers. Among those arrested early Saturday, nine were charged with selling the drug, three with possession and one with disorderly conduct, Nagy said. The club manager was arrested for having an underage person near the bar while the drug was being sold. AP-NY-04-17-99 1325EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 08:58:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26176 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 08:58:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 26168 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 08:58:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 08:58:44 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-122.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.122]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA09336 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371AEFC1.729C856C@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:56:33 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Russian Police Make Major Pot Bust Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Russian Police Make Major Pot Bust .c The Associated Press MOSCOW (AP) -- Police seized 1,320 pounds of marijuana from a truck crossing into Russia from the Central Asian republic of Kazakstan, the ITAR-Tass news agency said Sunday. According to the report, the marijuana was stashed in 42 sacks in the back of the truck, which was stopped by officials at a border crossing near the central Siberian city of Omsk. The truck's driver, as well as an unspecified number of passengers, were arrested, ITAR-Tass said. Kazakstan and other former Soviet republics in Central Asia have become part of a major drug route leading from Afghanistan to Russia and further into Europe. AP-NY-04-18-99 0727EDT Copyright 1998 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 09:23:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3010 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 09:23:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 2994 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 09:23:39 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 09:23:39 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 7KDAa26489; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:23:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <66b60097.244c4ff2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:22:58 EDT Subject: ???? Russian, NYC, & Texas Drug Busts. To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Paul, why the hell are you posting this? So people got busted with drugs. If I cared, I'd read the newspaper. In a message dated 4/19/99 3:58:51 AM EST, goodvibe@geocities.com writes: << MOSCOW (AP) -- Police seized 1,320 pounds of marijuana from a truck crossing into Russia from the Central Asian republic of Kazakstan, the ITAR-Tass news agency said Sunday. According to the report, the marijuana was stashed in 42 sacks in the back of the truck, which was stopped by officials at a border crossing near the central Siberian city of Omsk. The truck's driver, as well as an unspecified number of passengers, were arrested, ITAR-Tass said. Kazakstan and other former Soviet republics in Central Asia have become part of a major drug route leading from Afghanistan to Russia and further into Europe. AP-NY-04-18-99 0727EDT >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 12:07:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15489 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 12:07:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 15473 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 12:07:51 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 12:07:51 -0000 Received: from Brikne@aol.com by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vYCWa25028 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:07:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Brikne@aol.com Message-ID: <5c3366a0.244c7671@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:07:13 EDT Subject: Review of my weekend!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: Brikne@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey folks... hope everyone is having a bright monday morning.. just remember your one day closer to the next weekend! hehe.. OKay.. so this weekend i was low on cash, well , lower than usual... heh... and there werent any real parties that grabbed my attention so i figured i play good and stay home. only friday turned out that way.... sat i went to this great little party thrown by some dude named tom down in paloalto. NOw how cool is this... his parents go away... he moves all the furniture... has uphonic and djd spinning in his living room!!! it was rad... he desirves much respect for attempting let alone succeeding in this venture. Now even htough i could only stay a short while (i had worked a 12 hr day) i was very impressed. I dont know how many of those glow in the dark stars they bought but the place was quite festive. so i come home and sleep 20 hours.. wake up and play captain tinrib and i get an over whelming urge to dance (outside my bedroom wearing a towel and a smile) so i ask my friend ryan for info on this place 78 minna st. (remember it) cuase i heard there might be something htere... FOLKS< THIS SHIT WAS TIGHT! i got there at ten to find a pizza parlor with the chairs&tables moved out... and some hella good trance blasting. the first dj's name i dont know, but he has blonde dreads and i met him at discovery. he was phat!!! played some nice trance to a small crowd (only two folks dancing (me one of them)) but he was hella into his shit and played a great set. soon this little venue filled up and i saw lots o faces i recognized... including DRC. She spun a short but very sweet set let me tell you... that girls love her music!!!! and for that matter, so did i. her set had vareity and style... kinda like her! the whole place had like a hundred or so peeps id guess.. but all were really into it and having fun. oh, and there was free alcohol and drinks, mad props to the guy who threw it.... SO I hope some of you got to go to this.. i was the freak dressed all in black dancing like no one was looking... and having a lot of fun!!! hope everyone has a great day.. seeyouall at all play together.. and happy 4/20 tuesday!!! -BK "only very dull people are exciting in the morning"- oscar wilde From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 13:08:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28630 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 13:08:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 28617 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 13:08:26 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 13:08:26 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.148] (congo-73.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.73]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08087; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:07:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:27:46 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Contrary to popular belief, old age is not a curse, but a great blessing. ---Did I do good? ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 15:40:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3193 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 15:40:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3185 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 15:40:11 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 15:40:11 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vEHYa27250 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:39:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: <1c21a3bc.244ca821@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:39:13 EDT Subject: HARMONY!!!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: Abbo1234@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would just like to put in my two cents that Harmony was one phat party!! I had such a great time (well, most of it was good). Many thanks to Sean and Greg for taking care of me. You guys rule!! PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 16:00:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17356 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 16:00:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17190 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 16:00:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:00:37 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 284 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:58:39 -0700 Message-ID: <371B5661.7A967E4D@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:14:26 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: SUNSET BOAT PARTY!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Once again Sunset put together the dope ass rump shakin party on the bay that just blows the doors off any club. After some pre boarding drinkin festivities (all I could find was Budwiser damnit!), loaded onto the boat and proceeded to get down. Galen, Solar, and Miles all played great...kept the crowd movin all night. There was some KILLER hip hop goin on upstairs that was just totally rockin as well. Highlight- At one point the music was shut off, security got on the mic and said the boat was being turned around because someone had been smoking inside the cabin. After some heavy convincing by the audience, the seeminly uptight security gaurd relented, and announced things would go on if everyone danced their hardest for the next to tracks. SLAMMIN VIBE BUILDIN IN ACTION. Anyways, it was a great end to a great weekend :) john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 16:01:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18214 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 16:01:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18015 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 16:01:11 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:01:11 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vKENa24955 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:00:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: <74e613df.244cad23@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:00:35 EDT Subject: A Good Friend To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: Abbo1234@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1. In kindergarten your idea of a good friend was the person who let you=20 have the red crayon when all that was left was the ugly black one. =A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 2. In first grade your idea of a good friend was the person who went to the=20 bathroom with you and held your hand as you walked through the scary halls. =20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 3. In second grade your idea of a good friend was the person who helped you stand up to the class bully. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 4. In third grade your idea of a good friend was the person who shared their=20 lunch withyou when you forgot yours on the bus. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 5. In fourth grade your idea of a good friend was the person who was willing=20 to switch square dancing partners in gym so you wouldn't have to be stuck=20 do-si-do-ing with Nasty Nicky or Smelly Susan. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 6. In fifth grade your idea of a friend was the person who saved a seat on=20 the back of the bus for you. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 7. In sixth grade your idea of a friend was the person who went up to Nick o= r=20 Susan, your new crush, and asked them to dance with you, so that if they said no yo= u=20 wouldn't have to be embarrassed. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 8. In seventh grade your idea of a friend was the person who let you copy th= e social studies homework from the night before that you had. 9. In eighth grade your idea of a good friend was the person who helped you=20 pack up your stuffed animals and old baseball cards so that your room would=20 be a "high schooler's" room, but didn't laugh at you when you finished and=20 broke out into tears. 10. In ninth grade your idea of a good friend was the=20 person who went to that "cool" party thrown by a senior so you wouldn't wind=20 up being the only freshman there. =A0 11. In tenth grade your idea of a goo= d=20 friend was the person who changed their schedule so you would have someone t= o=20 sit with at lunch. 12. In eleventh grade your idea of a good friend was the person who gave you=20 rides in their new car, convinced your parents that you shouldn't be=20 grounded, consoled you when you broke up with Nick or Susan, and found you = a=20 date to the prom.=20 13. In twelfth grade your idea of a good friend was the person who helped yo= u=20 pick out a college, assured you that you would get into that college, helped=20 you deal with your parents who were having a hard time adjusting to the idea=20 of letting you go... 14. At graduation your idea of a good friend was the person who was crying o= n=20 the inside but managed the biggest smile one could give as they congratulate= d=20 you. =A0 15.The summer after twelfth grade your idea of a good friend was = the=20 person who helped you clean up the bottles from that party, helped you=20 sneakout of the house when you just couldn't deal with your parents, assured =20 you that now that you and Nick or you and Susan were back together, you coul= d=20 make it through anything, helped you pack up for college and just silently =20 hugged you as you looked through blurry eyes at 18 years of memories you wer= e=20 leaving behind, and finally on those last days of childhood, went out of their way to give you reassurance that=20 you would make it in college as well as you had these past 18 years, and mos= t=20 importantly sent you off to college knowing you were loved.=20 16. Now, your idea of a good friend is still the person who gives you the=20 better of the two choices, hold your hand when you're scared, helps you figh= t=20 off those who try to take advantage of you, thinks of you at times when you=20 are not there, reminds you of what you have forgotten, helps you put the =20 past behind you but understands when you need to hold on to it a little=20 longer, stays with you so that you have confidence, goes out of their way to=20 make time for you, helps you clear up your mistakes, helps you deal with =20 pressure from others, smiles for you when they are sad, helps you become a=20 better person, and most importantly loves you! Pass on to those friends of=20 the past, and those of the future...and those you have met along the way...=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 =09Thank you for being a friend. No matter where we go or w= ho we become,=20 never forget who helped us get there. There's never a wrong time to pick up = a=20 phone or send a message telling your friends how much you miss them or how much you=20 love them.=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 You know who you are, pass it on to someone who you w= ant to remind.=20 So send this to all your friends and maybe those who aren't but just watch=20 and see who sends it back.=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 If you love someone, tell them. Remember always to sa= y what you=20 mean. Never be afraid to express yourself. Take this opportunity to tell=20 someone what they mean to you. Seize the day and have no regrets. Most =20 importantly, stay close to your friends and family, for they have helped mak= e=20 you the person that you are today and are what it's all about anyway. Pass=20 this along to your friends. Let it make a difference in your day and theirs. =20 The difference between expressing love and having regrets is that the regret= s=20 may stay around forever. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 =09If you've received this it is because someone cares for you and it=20 means there is probably at least someone for whom you care. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 16:07:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22847 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 16:07:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 22838 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 16:07:45 -0000 Received: from smtp.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:07:45 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:00:44 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24F1@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: 'LuSh SnOOpiE' , Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:00:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE8A7D.C7CD6768" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8A7D.C7CD6768 Content-Type: text/plain hey ..!!! boys and girls..Andy (me) is in San Francisco, but just moved here from Dallas Texas in the mid of Jan. > -----Original Message----- > From: LuSh SnOOpiE [SMTP:kandykid4@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 7:14 PM > To: Peanut5367@aol.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* > > Lia: lives in san francisco, but originally born and raised in > Hawaii! > > > >From: Peanut5367@aol.com > >Reply-To: Peanut5367@aol.com > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* > >Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:02:04 EDT > > > >hi everyone!* > > > >i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking > that you > >never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could > help us all > >to get to know each other better!* > > > >... just a thought ... > > > >((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) > > > ><3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** > > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8A7D.C7CD6768-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 16:22:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2003 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 16:22:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1994 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 16:22:50 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:22:50 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-63.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.63]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA07758 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990419145550.006af01c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:55:50 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re:[NRR] A Good Friend Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1. In kindergarten your idea of a good friend was the person who let you have the red crayon when all that was left was=20 the ugly black one. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=20 Is that racsist?=20 Why must the white ball in pool control all the other colored balls? Why must I be KooKoo for Cocoa Pops but I'm great if I have Frosted Flakes?= =20 Why must brown rice be called wild rice? Why do the green olives get a clear glass jar where you can see them and the black olives are put into a can? O and if you haven't figured it out..this was a joke:P Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 16:23:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2716 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 16:23:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 2707 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 16:23:32 -0000 Received: from wya-oe17.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:23:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 85108 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 16:24:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419162404.85107.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.184.96 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:24:04 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.184.96] From: "Justin Hale" To: Space201@aol.com, goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ???? Russian, NYC, & Texas Drug Busts. Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:24:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i read them all, i thought it interesting... >From: Space201@aol.com >Reply-To: Space201@aol.com >To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: ???? Russian, NYC, & Texas Drug Busts. >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:22:58 EDT > >Paul, why the hell are you posting this? So people got busted with drugs. If >I cared, I'd read the newspaper. > > >In a message dated 4/19/99 3:58:51 AM EST, goodvibe@geocities.com writes: > ><< MOSCOW (AP) -- Police seized 1,320 pounds of marijuana from a truck > crossing into Russia from the Central Asian republic of Kazakstan, the > ITAR-Tass news agency said Sunday. > > According to the report, the marijuana was stashed in 42 sacks in the > back of the truck, which was stopped by officials at a border crossing > near the central Siberian city of Omsk. > > The truck's driver, as well as an unspecified number of passengers, were > arrested, ITAR-Tass said. > > Kazakstan and other former Soviet republics in Central Asia have become > part of a major drug route leading from Afghanistan to Russia and > further into Europe. > > AP-NY-04-18-99 0727EDT > >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 16:30:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6735 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 16:29:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6713 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 16:29:57 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:29:57 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iLTKa24965; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:26:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: <66b60759.244cb321@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:26:09 EDT Subject: Re: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: stargurl@hotmail.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Candida29@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey everyone!! i live in redwood city!! does anyone know where that is? for those who don't it's in the middle of menlo park and san carlos!! anyone near me?? love & lollipops, candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 16:46:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13692 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 16:46:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13684 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 16:46:31 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:46:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419164443.29178.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.33.151] by web4; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:44:43 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:44:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: harmony is it. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk harmony was absolutely excellent. besides seeing basically all the people that i know, it was well decorated and the vibe was alive. thanks to the harmony crew for making me and countless others feel right at home. i hope that you guys enjoyed your party cuz we sure as heck did. hi-lites: terry on visuals, mc duh on the m-i-c (i've never seen him b4 and boy was i impressed). andyW giving me the chillz in the chillout space. the vibepools. that wonderful circular fan was the best!!!!, christopher lawrence, trance setter. dutch, king of tekno noize. science droppin' knowledge in the forms of drums 'n basses. also, harmony knows tekno like bo knows. lots 'o peeps to hug and love: leslie, noah, sarood, my boy tim the diversion, dj supreme-c, atomic dj, patrice, brandon, dj boneh, eric brown, loic comolli, sara and the ganja wear cru, buddy, steve with the feather and many other friends from trance & jungle and from around the way, psifire my homie, alex brother, emi good to see you out, miah, kevin a new friend, tigger, and of course my dearest magiclovefairy. 2nd & jackson could not get any better. what a GREAT TIME!!! thank you. love and respect, joaqman --- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 16:48:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16296 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 16:48:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 16281 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 16:48:56 -0000 Received: from netcom6.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:48:56 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom6.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id JAA17772; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:48:53 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: oh, PS To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i want to join in on the "MC Duh is so cool" bandwagon! that guy was a lot of fun! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 16:55:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20840 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 16:55:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 20819 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 16:55:26 -0000 Received: from web117.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:55:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419165600.14535.rocketmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.184.49.2] by web117.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:56:00 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Violette Subject: Re: *Harmony* To: SF Raves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey im making a fatty web page and i was wondering if you could send me a picture of that whole ninja scene??? PLEEEAAASSSEE!!!! <~hugs~> Chris neuera16@yahoo.com --- CanContrl@aol.com wrote: > u cant be serious!!!!....did that really > happen...DETAILS PEOPLE!!! > DETAILS!!!...hahahaha > dean* > > << -5 min after we got in crazy shit went down in > the main room. There was > an open skylight, and like 10 people were climbing > in from the roof, and > hanging and swinging from the rafters and dropping > on the floor, like > ninjas!! It was OUT OF CONTROL!!! I even took a > picture. >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 17:18:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4751 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 17:18:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4733 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 17:18:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 17:18:02 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 300; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:15:53 -0700 Message-ID: <371B687A.51E1F766@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:31:38 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Violette CC: SF Raves Subject: Re: Ninja Maneuvers *Harmony* References: <19990419165600.14535.rocketmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HA HA!! Anyone remember the ninja style roof entrance to 16th and Heroin? john r Chris Violette wrote: > Hey im making a fatty web page and i was wondering if > you could send me a picture of that whole ninja > scene??? PLEEEAAASSSEE!!!! > > <~hugs~> > Chris > > neuera16@yahoo.com > > --- CanContrl@aol.com wrote: > > u cant be serious!!!!....did that really > > happen...DETAILS PEOPLE!!! > > DETAILS!!!...hahahaha > > dean* > > > > << -5 min after we got in crazy shit went down in > > the main room. There was > > an open skylight, and like 10 people were climbing > > in from the roof, and > > hanging and swinging from the rafters and dropping > > on the floor, like > > ninjas!! It was OUT OF CONTROL!!! I even took a > > picture. >> > > > > -- John Rodriguez Balance Productions http://www.SFHouse.com JohnR@SFHouse.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 17:34:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14990 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 17:34:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14974 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 17:34:07 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 17:34:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419173656.6435.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:36:56 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Once again... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have to say that EPIPHANY rules. My friends were visiting from socal and i made it a little late, but atleast they had there share of epiphany and got to feel the flava of our wonderful community. I loved that party, I cant explain what it ment to me, all of you lovely people are unbelievable!! I finally got to meet some more sfravers red stickman, Max, Jessica, and more !! It was an unbelivable day, trust me :) I had to leave around 5:45 because we had to make it back to san jose to get my inhaler( nobody had one there, usually someone always does), then make it back to oakland by 8 to get tix :( The music was incredible, uncle Noah, those breakbeats, I have a found a new love to dance with, why dont we have more breakbeats like that at parties, why, why, why????? Jungle life crew had the lawn jumpin, ALL of the music was incredibly pleasant, the best styles ever. PROPS to everyone who spun the music in the sun with the trees all around, and the lavender, oh that lavender. Mc Duh, you got it down, oh yeah you do. How come everytime i want to explain an epiphany party the words wont come out? Its just to hard to explain, one of those things that you just have to experience, sort of like , well, an epiphany! Thats it, this lovely little crew really lives up to their name. A day to remember... Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 17:42:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19015 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 17:42:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 19003 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 17:42:09 -0000 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 17:42:09 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom11.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id KAA07096; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:41:58 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: (SA - Shameless Advertising) To: E-Bumpers By the Bay cc: Former Whitehouse Interns In-Reply-To: <19990419173656.6435.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Attention promoters: On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Jess ica wrote: > The music was incredible, uncle Noah, those breakbeats, I have a found > a new love to dance with, why dont we have more breakbeats like that at > parties, why, why, why????? For booking information please contact Abduction Productions (714) 558-7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 18:01:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29332 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 18:01:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 29304 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:01:41 -0000 Received: from web124.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:01:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419180359.21235.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web124.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:03:59 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:03:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Blink 182 and some upcoming concerts To: Mandi Girl , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually there is a large crossover between the "candy-raver" scene and the "Ska/Punk" scene. You can find a positive vibe in both. It is just a bit more physical at the concerts. Not too many people will say "excuse me" or "sorry" as they ram an elbow in your side. But then again, they will usally separate into groups where the elbow jabbers can push and shove another jabbers. ;) BLINK182 will be at the Warped Tour in SF pier 30/32 on JULY 3rd. If anyone is interested, There will be a FREE concert at the UCSC campus this Saturday (Apr 24) with Slow Gherkin, The Siren Six, The Hippos, and Jefferies Fan Club. It is starting at 5pm. It will outside on the stairs in the court yard by the College 8 Area. http://www.bayareaska.com/spammap.gif *HUGZ* pat --- Mandi Girl wrote: > I went to the Blink concert today and was surprised > to see so many > candyravers. I know Blink is becoming more popular, > but I was just > shocked. If any of you where there, I was the one > in the green tank > top dancing on the white truck in the middle of the > crowd. The > concert kicked ass. So I guess when I onced asked > about > incorpurating punk music into the rave scene, it > wasn't too bad of an > idea. Much Love, Mandi > > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 18:14:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5955 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 18:14:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 5945 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:14:51 -0000 Received: from catbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:14:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with ESMTP id LAA05974; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@catbert.ucdavis.edu To: The Red Stickman cc: Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 1015 folsom = still open! In-Reply-To: <19990417003004.9213.rocketmail@web201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So we are all seeing eachother next Friday for trancing out to the fabulous sound of John Digweed, all right!? PLUR, Your Trancehead and crazy German, Silvia On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, The Red Stickman wrote: > I confirmed this, it is not closed. Be safe, and keep > our night life going strong... > > love, > michael > o)-< > > --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > > I heard this and went nuts. > > > > Called Miss E from eklektic, she hadn't heard, we > > called DJ Siren who > > works with spundae, for the bassment, and she hadn't > > heard anything and > > she called the nikita crew and they hadn't heard > > anything about it. > > > > so I called Darin from Blue Room who lives by there > > and he said he saw > > people going in as he drove by after eklektic last > > night. > > > > And so I would say it's probably not true. > > > > fingers crossed though, seen. > > > > 10-4, > > duh, > > max > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 18:20:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8641 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 18:20:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 8625 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:19:58 -0000 Received: from fillmore.paix.cp.net (HELO fillmore.criticalpath.net) (209.228.15.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:19:58 -0000 Received: (cpmta 16905 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 11:19:57 -0700 Date: 19 Apr 1999 11:19:57 -0700 Message-ID: <19990419181957.16904.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> X-Sent: 19 Apr 1999 18:19:57 GMT Received: from [207.251.14.22] by mail.club.net with HTTP; 19 Apr 1999 11:19:56 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Tabitha Hanrion X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: thanks Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wanted to thank all those that came out and played in the sunshine on Saturday at Epiphany. It was one of those comfy parties where you came away feeling really glad to be part of this beautiful group of friends and freaks. Big thank yous to the people who took us on the journey! Jason, ReAch, Siphon, Hak, AndyW, Science, Jungle Life Crew, Uncle Noah and Jahsh. You all had me dancing the entire day. Even while I was sitting at the donations table I was bopping up and down. MC Duh thank you so much for hanging in there all day long. Any man that can rhyme David Duchovny is pretty incredible. Thanks to all those that have supported us over the past year. After all the work, there's nothing like watching everybody smiling and having a good time. As cliche as that may sound, it's true. tabitha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 18:21:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9881 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 18:21:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 9871 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:21:43 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:21:43 -0000 Received: from Wheresplur@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vHMAa00790 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:20:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Wheresplur@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:19:31 EDT Subject: Disturbing experience at Harmony To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Reply-To: Wheresplur@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all: PLUR is not something that we all need to preach but something that everyone needs to keep in mind ESPECIALLY when it comes to your own friends. I ran into someone at Harmony Saturday night and a conversation that since has puzzled me. (Don't get me wrong...Harmony was a GREAT party, this was my only unpleasant experience of the night). I saw a girl who looked kind of down and asked if she was ok...she responded by saying that no she really wasn't. When asked why, she continued to explain that on the way to the party, she had gotten into a car accident with some friends and that 4 of them were still in the hospital in critical condition. HELLO??? Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture? What in the hell is she doing at the party when her friends are in the hospital? If this is what this girls idea of Peace, Love, Unity and Respect are all about when it comes to her friends, I shudder to think of how she interacts with others that she doesn't consider friends. No thank you. I took a moment to think of where I would be in her situation. The ONLY answer I could come up with was pacing the halls of the hospital and the FIRST chance I got, at their bedside, holding their hand, smoothing their hair and helping their parents through a long night!!! You know who you are, and you have to live with yourself, not me. But ask yourself if it was you in the hospital and your friend had left you., how would you feel? Your instant reaction is going to be something immature like: I would hope they would go have fun..but really think about and then answer honestly...not to us...but to yourself. What goes around comes around...I'm praying for you. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 18:22:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10974 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 18:22:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 10959 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:22:37 -0000 Received: from catbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:22:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with ESMTP id LAA07217 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:22:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@catbert.ucdavis.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* In-Reply-To: <92eae3ab.2449459c@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, actually I am from Germany, but right now I am one of the many Davis Family members... :))) And we "live/party" in Davis, SF, Sac, everywhere... PLUR, Silvia On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 Peanut5367@aol.com wrote: > hi everyone!* > > i was wondering where everyone on the list lived, cuz i was thinking that you > never know when you'll need a friend close by, so maybe it could help us all > to get to know each other better!* > > ... just a thought ... > > ((((hUgS!))) *aNd* :o) sMileS! :o) > > <3 niCOle :o) ***!fRoM cOnCoRd!*** > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 18:27:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13033 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 18:27:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13024 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:27:21 -0000 Received: from smtp.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:27:21 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:20:20 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24FC@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: "'Wheresplur@aol.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Disturbing experience at Harmony Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:20:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE8A91.482F598A" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8A91.482F598A Content-Type: text/plain Wow, you are sooo right! this is what ive been talking about as well. PLUR is taking as soo literally that people forget the importance of other issues. Parties, raves, and the scene should not be "our lives" but a way to pass the time, enjoy ourselves and make memories. I can't believe that she went to the party after her friends were in the hospital. WHAT THE HELL!!! There are so many people like her around in "the scene." I grew out of that mentality so long ago. The mental of.."I need to be at every party, " "I need to know as many people as possible, " and "nothing is more important than a party..." Good luck to her and you other kiddies that haven't yet figured what it's all really about yet.... andy aka raveclub@aol.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Wheresplur@aol.com [SMTP:Wheresplur@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 11:20 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Disturbing experience at Harmony > > To all: > > PLUR is not something that we all need to preach but something that > everyone > needs to keep in mind ESPECIALLY when it comes to your own friends. I ran > > into someone at Harmony Saturday night and a conversation that since has > puzzled me. (Don't get me wrong...Harmony was a GREAT party, this was my > only unpleasant experience of the night). > > I saw a girl who looked kind of down and asked if she was ok...she > responded > by saying that no she really wasn't. When asked why, she continued to > explain > that on the way to the party, she had gotten into a car accident with some > > friends and that 4 of them were still in the hospital in critical > condition. > HELLO??? Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture? What in the > hell > is she doing at the party when her friends are in the hospital? If this > is > what this girls idea of Peace, Love, Unity and Respect are all about when > it > comes to her friends, I shudder to think of how she interacts with others > that she doesn't consider friends. > > No thank you. I took a moment to think of where I would be in her > situation. > The ONLY answer I could come up with was pacing the halls of the hospital > and > the FIRST chance I got, at their bedside, holding their hand, smoothing > their > hair and helping their parents through a long night!!! > > You know who you are, and you have to live with yourself, not me. But ask > > yourself if it was you in the hospital and your friend had left you., how > would you feel? Your instant reaction is going to be something immature > like: I would hope they would go have fun..but really think about and > then > answer honestly...not to us...but to yourself. > > What goes around comes around...I'm praying for you. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8A91.482F598A Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Disturbing experience at Harmony

Wow, you are sooo = right!  this is what ive been talking about as well.  PLUR is = taking as soo literally that people forget the importance of other = issues.  Parties, raves, and the scene should not be "our = lives" but a way to pass the time, enjoy ourselves and make = memories.  I can't believe that she went to the party after her = friends were in the hospital.  WHAT THE HELL!!! There are so many = people like her around in "the scene."  I grew out of = that mentality so long ago.  The mental of.."I need to be at = every party, " "I need to know as many people as possible, = " and "nothing is more important than a party..."  = Good luck to her and you other kiddies that haven't yet figured what = it's all really about yet....

andy aka = raveclub@aol.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Wheresplur@aol.com = [SMTP:Wheresplur@aol.com]
    Sent:   Monday, April 19, 1999 11:20 AM
    To:     sfraves@hyperreal.org
    Subject:       = Disturbing experience at = Harmony

    To all:

    PLUR is not something that we all need = to preach but something that everyone
    needs to keep in mind ESPECIALLY when = it comes to your own friends.  I ran
    into someone at Harmony Saturday = night and a conversation that since has
    puzzled me.  (Don't get me = wrong...Harmony was a GREAT party, this was my
    only unpleasant experience of the = night).

    I saw a girl who looked kind of down = and asked if she was ok...she responded
    by saying that no she really wasn't. = When asked why, she continued to explain
    that on the way to the party, she had = gotten into a car accident with some
    friends and that 4 of them were still = in the hospital in critical condition. 
    HELLO??? Does anyone see anything = wrong with this picture?  What in the hell
    is she doing at the party when her = friends are in the hospital?  If this is
    what this girls idea of Peace, Love, = Unity and Respect are all about when it
    comes to her friends, I shudder to = think of how she interacts with others
    that she doesn't consider = friends. 

    No thank you.  I took a moment to = think of where I would be in her situation.
    The ONLY answer I could come up with = was pacing the halls of the hospital and
    the FIRST chance I got, at their = bedside, holding their hand, smoothing their
    hair and helping their parents = through a long night!!!

    You know who you are, and you have to = live with yourself, not me.  But ask
    yourself if it was you in the = hospital and your friend had left you., how
    would you feel?  Your instant = reaction is going to be something immature
    like:  I would hope they would = go have fun..but really think about and then
    answer honestly...not to us...but to = yourself.

    What goes around comes around...I'm = praying for you.

     

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8A91.482F598A-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 18:35:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16852 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 18:35:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 16805 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:35:01 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:35:01 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id LAA23152 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id LAA07075 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256758.00660E17 ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:34:42 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256758.0064DA5F.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:35:09 -0700 Subject: 2nd & Jackson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Look, its one thing to throw a party with kick ass line up and a kick ass vibe, but it's another to throw a party in a venue that sucks the life energy out of you and is completely uncomfortable and intolerable, to accomplish both of these in one shot, is stupid. FOR me and I'm sure alot of others I will not go ..... period. I don't care if all the biggest DJ's in the world or the Best Sound System was rocking the joint, I will not GO. I will no longer be subjected to the lame ass bullshit of spending 20 or more dollars to satisfy the person thats throwing the party that has no interest in satisfying the needs my 20 or some odd dollars come with. Harmony and others throw great parties, but as long as they are at 2nd & Jackson, I will not be at any one of them, thankfully its that time of year again where the parties start to migrate to the outdoors where theres plenty of ventilation, and plenty of room to dance, and I'm sure that an outdoor venue in a remote location is less of a hassle to organize an event than it is to do one in a enclosed location..... Sorry Harmony people, you didn't get my attendance at this one...... Hope there are open ears to hear, and motivated minds to change the conditions in which parties are thrown in these days. Jason From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 18:47:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28160 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 18:47:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28079 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:47:47 -0000 Received: from f229.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 79785 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 18:47:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419184717.79784.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:47:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:[NRR] A Good Friend Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:47:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah well you know, left-handed peoplecan say the same thing. In fact the word "left" comes from an old German word for "weak" because the left hand is weaker than the right for most people. Grungy food is called "left-over". A person with radical political views is called a "leftist". Ideas that are too far out come "out of left field". An insincere compliment is a "left-handed" compliment. And when your friends leave for the evening, we say, oh, they "left". Wayne ---------- >From: Nuku >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re:[NRR] A Good Friend >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:55:50 -0500 > > 1. In kindergarten your idea of a good friend was the person who let you >have the red crayon when all that was left was > >the ugly black one.          >Is that racsist? > >Why must the white ball in pool control all the other colored balls? >Why must I be KooKoo for Cocoa Pops but I'm great if I have Frosted Flakes? >Why must brown rice be called wild rice? >Why do the green olives get a clear glass jar where you can see them and the >black olives are put into a can? > >O and if you haven't figured it out..this was a joke:P > >Nuku > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 18:57:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4645 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 18:56:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 4629 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:56:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anlsf.com) (206.79.166.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:56:54 -0000 Received: from ntserver ([206.79.166.23]) by anlsf.com (Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) with SMTP id 88256758.00684A01; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:59:06 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990419115724.00818300@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:57:24 -0700 To: "Valverde, Andrew" From: deepbeep Subject: RE: Disturbing experience at Harmony Cc: "'Wheresplur@aol.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD24FC@smtp.northpointco m.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And good luck to the both of you... It surely does seem that, although you both might have good intentions, you are quick on the draw when it comes to judging others for a decision they made, and PUBLICALLY lambasting them for it. Somehow, that does not stroke well with my sense of Respect... Keep in mind that -most likely-, you do not have a complete understanding of what this girl's situation was like. True, she might have made a decision that you do not support, but that IN NO WAY gives you the right to flame her on SFR... If you condemn others because their actions do not conform to your sense of 'PLUR', you'll have to realize that you're being hypocritcal to a certain extent. Does anyone remember that piece in Lotus about the semantics of PLUR? Is there a copy that online anywhere? I found that to be a very well thought out article, and think it might be useful to re-read every now and then... :::hugs::: d. At 11:20 AM 4/19/99 -0700, Valverde, Andrew wrote: >Good luck to her and you other kiddies that haven't >yet figured what it's all really about yet.... andy aka raveclub@aol.com >-----Original Message----- > Wheresplur@aol.com [SMTP:Wheresplur@aol.com] > Monday, April 19, 1999 11:20 AM > sfraves@hyperreal.org > Disturbing experience at Harmony To all: PLUR is not something >that we all need to preach but something that everyone > I ran >into someone at Harmony Saturday night and a conversation that since has > (Don't get me wrong...Harmony was a GREAT party, this was my >only unpleasant experience of the night). I saw a girl who looked kind of >down and asked if she was ok...she responded >by saying that no she really wasn't. When asked why, she continued to explain >that on the way to the party, she had gotten into a car accident with some > > What in the hell > If this is >what this girls idea of Peace, Love, Unity and Respect are all about when it >comes to her friends, I shudder to think of how she interacts with others > I took a moment to think of where I would be in her situation. >The ONLY answer I could come up with was pacing the halls of the hospital and >the FIRST chance I got, at their bedside, holding their hand, smoothing their >hair and helping their parents through a long night!!! But ask >yourself if it was you in the hospital and your friend had left you., how > Your instant reaction is going to be something immature > I would hope they would go have fun..but really think about and then >answer honestly...not to us...but to yourself. What goes around comes >around...I'm praying for you. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 19:19:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23157 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 19:19:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 23131 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 19:19:40 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 19:19:40 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id MAA22345; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371B80AF.B856B27@best.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:14:55 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Silvia Schumacher CC: The Red Stickman , Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 1015 folsom = still open! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I called the nikita info line... and it said that John Digweed has a scheduling change and he'll be there at 4:20 in the afternoon on wednesday. anyone have any other info on this? Silvia Schumacher wrote: > > So we are all seeing eachother next Friday for trancing out to the > fabulous sound of John Digweed, all right!? > > PLUR, > Your Trancehead and crazy German, Silvia > > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, The Red Stickman wrote: > > > I confirmed this, it is not closed. Be safe, and keep > > our night life going strong... > > > > love, > > michael > > o)-< > > > > --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > > > > I heard this and went nuts. > > > > > > Called Miss E from eklektic, she hadn't heard, we > > > called DJ Siren who > > > works with spundae, for the bassment, and she hadn't > > > heard anything and > > > she called the nikita crew and they hadn't heard > > > anything about it. > > > > > > so I called Darin from Blue Room who lives by there > > > and he said he saw > > > people going in as he drove by after eklektic last > > > night. > > > > > > And so I would say it's probably not true. > > > > > > fingers crossed though, seen. > > > > > > 10-4, > > > duh, > > > max > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 19:24:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26905 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 19:24:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26894 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 19:24:27 -0000 Received: from f168.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.54) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 19:24:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 19968 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 19:28:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419192838.19967.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:28:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: scr@socal-raves.org Subject: Re: (SA - Shameless Advertising) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:28:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahahahhahaha damn...if only put out more of your own records....cause GTA kicked ass (i bought 2 copies)......BOOK UNCLE NOAH@#^%$** aaron >From: unclenoah >To: E-Bumpers By the Bay >CC: Former Whitehouse Interns >Subject: (SA - Shameless Advertising) >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:41:58 -0700 (PDT) > > >Attention promoters: > >On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Jess ica wrote: > >> The music was incredible, uncle Noah, those breakbeats, I have a found >> a new love to dance with, why dont we have more breakbeats like that at >> parties, why, why, why????? > > >For booking information please contact Abduction Productions (714) 558-7626 > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:05:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23078 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:05:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 23060 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:05:04 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:05:04 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vFAKa27251 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:03:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:03:43 EDT Subject: Re: Blink 182 and some upcoming concerts To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk that's an interesting correlation...that ska/punk--candy kid thing...I dunno that I agree with it but whatever...hotdamn I go to UCSC and I didn't even know about that show...guess I'm slow, eh? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:15:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1432 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:15:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 1258 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:15:39 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:15:39 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vHMPa00791 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:14:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <4a1840bf.244ce88b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:14:03 EDT Subject: Re: [NRR] left handed To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk actually...the term left-handed comes from the old english for sinister... a person who wrote a-typically or left handed was considered to be an instrument of the devil or sinister...just a clear me up on that one (: From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:24:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10862 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:24:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 10850 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:24:07 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:24:07 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.182]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-48930U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA254 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:32:27 -0700 Message-ID: <01f601be8aa2$70611c20$b60318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: Subject: The many different types of ravers Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:23:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BE8A67.C372D560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BE8A67.C372D560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone... Just a thought? How many types of ravers are there???? Apparently = everyone and their mother are calling themselves ravers nowadays...so I = just want to know your indentification of ravers....be it = candy....jungle...commercial...whatever raver. Nick=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BE8A67.C372D560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone...
 
Just a thought?  How many types = of ravers=20 are there???? Apparently everyone and their mother are calling = themselves ravers=20 nowadays...so I just want to know your indentification of ravers....be = it=20 candy....jungle...commercial...whatever raver.
 
 
Nick 
------=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BE8A67.C372D560-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:35:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22893 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:34:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 22880 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:34:57 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:34:57 -0000 Received: from sei.com (ntws18.sei.com [198.202.174.85]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15404; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371B9415.7DC42094@sei.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:37:41 -0700 From: Martin Randall Organization: SEI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anachra@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NRR] left handed References: <4a1840bf.244ce88b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Right - er, I mean correct! "Sinister" is Latin for "left". (see, I learned something from my Latin classes all those years ago at British Grammar School!). "Dexter" is Latin for "right". So "ambidexterous" (i.e. being able to use both hands equally well) is literally "both right (handed)". And being dexterous, dexterity, etc, all come from the same root. Isn't that interesting? And now, back to your regular programming..... - Martin Anachra@aol.com wrote: > actually...the term left-handed comes from the old english for sinister... > a person who wrote a-typically or left handed was considered to be an > instrument of the devil or sinister...just a clear me up on that one (: From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:36:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24417 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:36:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 24409 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:36:04 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:36:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419202934.2805.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.243] by attach1; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:29:34 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:29:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers To: Nick Ngo , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Another Question....why categorize?? I'm Jeremy, and you are??? love jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Nick Ngo wrote: > > Hello everyone... > > Just a thought? How many types of ravers are there???? Apparently everyone and their mother are calling themselves ravers nowadays...so I just want to know your indentification of ravers....be it candy....jungle...commercial...whatever raver. > > > Nick >
Hello everyone...
 
Just a thought?  How many types of ravers are there???? Apparently everyone and their mother are calling themselves ravers nowadays...so I just want to know your indentification of ravers....be it candy....jungle...commercial...whatever raver.
 
 
Nick 
From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:36:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25110 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:36:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 25099 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:36:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anlsf.com) (206.79.166.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:36:36 -0000 Received: from ntserver ([206.79.166.23]) by anlsf.com (Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) with SMTP id 88256758.007167D8; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:38:41 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990419133545.00802180@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:35:45 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: deepbeep Subject: folding chair left at DayBreaks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Did someone forget to take their folding chair home from DayBreaks on saturday? We found it as we were cleaning up, lying around near the sound system feeling all alone and abandoned. I know at some point this girl Danielle (the cute, tiny jungle girlie who boogies like no one else. I thought she was 16, turned out she was 23... :::doh:::) was using it to strike a seated pose in front of one of the stacks, but other than that, I don't know... If it's yours and you can describe it, we gots it! :::hugs::: d. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:37:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26294 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:37:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 26286 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:37:46 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:37:46 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-235.dsp.com [204.118.76.235]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA02344; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:37:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199904192037.NAA02344@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:33:31 -0700 To: Anachra@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: [NRR] left handed In-Reply-To: <4a1840bf.244ce88b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What you mean is: the term "sinister" comes from Middle English sinistre, which means left side or unfavored. The term left-handed just means left-handed. Jessica At 04:14 PM 4/19/99 -0400, Anachra@aol.com wrote: >actually...the term left-handed comes from the old english for sinister... >a person who wrote a-typically or left handed was considered to be an >instrument of the devil or sinister...just a clear me up on that one (: > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:40:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29202 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:40:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 29054 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:40:38 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:40:38 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8LJR7BU; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:38:44 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:57:40 -0700 Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers Message-ID: <19990419.135751.20590.0.Trigometric@juno.com> References: <01f601be8aa2$70611c20$b60318d1@ssimarkfmt> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 9-69 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm the raver that doesn't look like one. I don't know if I have a category. I guess the best one I can think of is that I'm the music loving raver. Regardless of what kind of music it is, I love it and enjoy listening and dancing. I feel that's what it's all about. Not so much about how you dress or what kind of music you listen or prefer not to listen to. All of those things seem a bit more trivial to me. To me it's about the unity of different people all there to find themselves in the moment of the musci. I don't feel the categorization of ravers is a valuable expenditure of time and energy. As a result, if you were to see me at a party, I'd probably be dressed up in regular, every day clothes. Feeling lonely in my category. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:23:07 -0700 nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) writes: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >------=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BE8A67.C372D560 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Hello everyone... > >Just a thought? How many types of ravers are there???? Apparently = >everyone and their mother are calling themselves ravers nowadays...so >I = >just want to know your indentification of ravers....be it = >candy....jungle...commercial...whatever raver. > > >Nick=20 > >------=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BE8A67.C372D560 >Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > >http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > > > >
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> >------=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BE8A67.C372D560-- > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:44:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1661 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:44:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 1649 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:44:38 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:44:38 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vKIQa06124 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:44:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <82b0ef36.244cef68@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:43:20 EDT Subject: Re: [NRR] left handed To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk nope, actually what I mean is what Martin went and said in better terms than my poor, addled mind could come up with (: From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:45:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3458 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:45:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 3260 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:45:34 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-3.pilot.net (HELO mail03-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:45:34 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail03-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id NAA06517; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:47:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id NAA16117; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256758.00720029 ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:45:11 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: WWoodliff@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256758.00710ADB.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:45:48 -0700 Subject: Re: 2nd & Jackson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I hope you didnt mis read my email, I did not diss Harmony or The Promoters, I dissed the venue, and its becuase of the venue that I will continue to speak my mind and heart about it so that everyone knows what their 20.00 or more is getting them into, not only that, but what they won't get for their 20 or some odd dollars. I find it hard to believe that this location is the only one available in an area in which this party is catered and promoted too. And personally, not stating fact or any of that but I see this venue as being more convenient to the promoters than it is to the loyal attendies that pay the promoters to put such endeavors together. So I ask you this..... if its oh so hard to get such sweet and prime locations for a party, then I think the effort is totally worth it, not only does it give a party more evergy and vibe, it gives the promoters more vallure and integrity. Earn your money..... but back to what I was saying befor, no negative things said about the promoters, perhaps its my opinion to think it illogical for them to choose such a space, but then again thats my opinion. Jason "I believe in people that believe in people" - me "don't let the mighty dollar or convenience kill your vibe or Idea for an incredible experience" - me WWoodliff@aol.com on 04/19/99 12:59:43 PM Please respond to WWoodliff@aol.com To: Jason LEE/HQ/US/ADECCO cc: Subject: Re: 2nd & Jackson If you only knew how much effort went in to throwing a party of that magnitude maybe you would think before shooting off like that. The reason it was at 2nd and crackson was simply because other venues were unavailable. I can't tell you how much Greg wanted this to be an outdoor party but that just was not posable. He and the rest of the Harmony crew put a lot of effort into everything that they do and it shows. He is definitely not like some of the other promoters out there who just throw all there parties at "international rave center" Home Base sure he probably could have packed the place. When you are doing something that big and have that much money at risk you have to be sure about everything. No, outdoor parties are not easier to put together. Sure a little underground can be put together almost anywhere but to get the talent of that party to one location you have to put forth a lot of dough, I'm talking about tens of thousands of dollars so it is just not possible to risk that much money getting lost because of some over zealous sherif. And to permit an outdoor party you not only have to deal with the land owner but the adjacent cities the county And the environmental groups that might have something to say about the endangered habitat of the 33 segmented earthworm. I am not part of the Harmony crew I have just been around a while and now how much effort promoters put into there parties. And Harmony by far kicks all there ass as far as the personal attention they give to every single one. Think B4 U Diss much love JonPaul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:51:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6609 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:51:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 6601 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:51:44 -0000 Received: from netcom17.netcom.com (root@192.100.81.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:51:44 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom17.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id NAA03093; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:41:39 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: [MR - Music Related] CD Review To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sly & Robbie - Drum & Bass Strip to the Bone by Howie B if you don't know who Sly and Robbie are, then you *need* to find out. S&R are a pair of excellent percussionists who have appeared on just about every reggae record that you've heard (well, maybe not *every* one, but a lot of 'em). they've also done some less than inspirational solo work, but this latest venture, which finds them teamed with UK DJ Howie B, steps into a new world of reggae, trip-hop, hip-hop and drum & bass. no matter if you're a hardcore junglist, a rastaman or just a fan of funky beats, there's something for you on this album. filled to the brim with 12 tracks of music (over 71 minutes!), 'drum & Bass strip to the bone' covers ground ranging from spacey ambience to more traditional up-beat driven guitary reggae to dub at it's electronicy finest. i don't buy many CDs but i happened to catch a couple of cuts from this one on my favorite radio station, KDVS 90.3fm in Davis, over this last weekend, and the album has lived up to my expectations. this is a good one for a long drive, a day at the office or a relaxing evening at our crib. i think this is the first "must have" CD that i've encountered in 1999. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 20:57:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9832 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 20:57:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 9538 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 20:57:39 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 20:57:39 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vBFGa05709 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:55:58 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:55:46 EDT Subject: Comparing Scenes To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: WizardCCCA@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone... I posted to this list about 2 months ago, but since I am in Colorado right now, it was really hard for me to me on two lists at once. I became a raver (still defining raver myself here... heheh) in January of this year and so I haven't had a chance to party out in SF. I am originally from Cupertino, so I will be home this summer to party. One of my friends from Colorado went out to SF for his birthday and went partying. He said that everyone parties differently out in CA. So I was wondering if any of you could describe your scene and the vibe. I was only on the SF list for about a month, and I didn't really get a chance to know anyone. But I would like to know if the people on this list think that this is a close knit list and whether or not you guys have meets at parties to meet up with fellow listers. I am also on the mtn-raves list and we are all one big family. We bicker and have fun, and I have met almost all of the regular posters of the list and we are all real good friends. Can anyone tell me if this list is like that? I would also like to know if any of you promoters have though of getting some CO talent out to CA. I can give you some names of awesome DJ's that are really talented and would be most appreciated by the CA rave scene. And if any of you sf listers have heard of any of the following DJ's, I would love to hear some of your comments: DJ Shahzad (impulse entertainment, CO) - epic trance Paul Kim (moonrise, CO) - prog. trance (HE RAWKS!!!!) DJ DMX (303 collective, CO) - hard house DJ Fury (lowerworld, CO) - jungle Satori-C (Humble Souls, CO) - breaks and jungle Sten Martin (Synesthesia, CO) - uplifting trance Shawn Parker (Fragrant Records, NM) - prog. trance and breaks Well, that is just a few of them. I appreciate it if you read this email and I hope some of you could get back to me. I posted a few days ago about getting a friend of mine out here... I don't really know what I am doing and if any of you can give me advice about getting any and all of the people listed above out to CA for your listening enjoyment, please email me and let me know. Thanks again. PLUR, Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:02:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15213 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:02:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 15181 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:02:31 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:02:31 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vXISa21075 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:01:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:00:52 EDT Subject: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: Ezzm@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tranquility is coming at you with the first ov many parties to come. friday july 2nd, Tranquility presents, WELCOME TO TRANQUILITY. This will be a very limited PRE-SALE ONLY EVENT. 200 Tix will be relesed. $10 per ticket. Dj's for the night will be: ALIAS, MYSTRE, UPHONIC, TELENE, and MERLYN. Experience the emotion, consciousness, and most true escape frome reality with out the drugs. 415-435-7567 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:11:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22097 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:11:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 21901 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:11:32 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:11:32 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-191.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.191]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA12271 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990419194436.006be598@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:44:36 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: [NRR] left handed Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well couldnm't the same be said for ppl named John? I have to use the John.. That person is a John Doe... and so on and so on and so on Can't Get High Without U! Nuku At 04:43 PM 4/19/99 EDT, you wrote: >nope, actually what I mean is what Martin went and said in better terms than >my poor, addled mind could come up with (: > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:14:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24051 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:14:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 24035 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:14:22 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:14:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419210755.10482.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.243] by attach1; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:07:55 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:07:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties To: Ezzm@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A question, w/ a line-up of noticeably non headliners, why would anyone pay 10 dollars for a one night outdoor party. I mean, a requested donation is understandable, however w/ dj's that are coming up in the scene, and a crew who has never thrown a party asking for 10 dollar pre-sale only outdoor party is a lil ballsy. well thats my opinion.... whats yours?? love n' 45 jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Ezzm@aol.com wrote: > > Tranquility is coming at you with the first ov many parties to come. friday > july 2nd, Tranquility presents, WELCOME TO TRANQUILITY. This will be a very > limited PRE-SALE ONLY EVENT. 200 Tix will be relesed. $10 per ticket. Dj's > for the night will be: ALIAS, MYSTRE, UPHONIC, TELENE, and MERLYN. > Experience the emotion, consciousness, and most true escape frome reality > with out the drugs. > 415-435-7567 > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:17:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26317 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:17:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 26307 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:17:18 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:17:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419211529.23682.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.243] by web4; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:15:28 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:15:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties To: Ezzm@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oops i'm sorry i guess mystere is a superstar, however i still feel like they are asking for too much, unless of couse, they are offereing something suppa special. maybe i dont know about. =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Jeremy Bispo wrote: > > A question, w/ a line-up of noticeably non > headliners, why would anyone pay 10 dollars for a one > night outdoor party. I mean, a requested donation is > understandable, however w/ dj's that are coming up in > the scene, and a crew who has never thrown a party > asking for 10 dollar pre-sale only outdoor party is a > lil ballsy. well thats my opinion.... whats yours?? > > love n' 45 > > jeremy > > > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > ---Ezzm@aol.com wrote: > > > > Tranquility is coming at you with the first ov many > parties to come. friday > > july 2nd, Tranquility presents, WELCOME TO > TRANQUILITY. This will be a very > > limited PRE-SALE ONLY EVENT. 200 Tix will be > relesed. $10 per ticket. Dj's > > for the night will be: ALIAS, MYSTRE, UPHONIC, > TELENE, and MERLYN. > > Experience the emotion, consciousness, and most > true escape frome reality > > with out the drugs. > > 415-435-7567 > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:22:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29170 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:22:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 29122 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:22:29 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:22:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419210556.27335.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.163.39.25] by web1; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:05:56 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:05:56 -0700 (PDT) From: cb Subject: Re: Review of my weekend!!! (KAKUNA) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Brikne@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HEY! yep, props to White Rabbit Productions! [friends of mine] (tom= Lak'esis and jon= ebony) Their house is hard to find from the freeway but its great for parties--did you see all the video games everywhere? hehe, that was cute. I'm glad people had a good time, i'll tell them and it'll make their day. (they're still cleaning up) I think the house party was supposed to raise some $$ to rent a warehouse and throw a bigger party but a lot of people off the guest list brought people in free and at the end of the night they were having some plumbing issues so i dunno how much profit they made. Anyways, it was a chill little party with great music and lots of room to dance. =) i'm glad you liked what you saw. > sat i went to this great little party thrown by some dude named tom > down in palo alto. NOw how cool is this... his parents go away... > he moves all the furniture... has Uphonic and Dj D spinning in his > living room!!! it was rad... he desirves much respect for > attempting let alone succeeding in this venture. > i was very impressed. I dont know how many of those glow in the dark > stars they bought but the place was quite festive. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:23:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 377 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:23:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 168 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:22:55 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:22:55 -0000 Received: from shell.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA24807 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904192121.OAA24807@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:21:48 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My top vote is for "The Gamemaster" by Lost Tribe (Hooj). Any more?? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:28:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4114 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:28:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 4103 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:28:38 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:28:38 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-191.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.191]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA14164 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990419200141.006b3d54@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:01:41 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I dunno Uphonic and Mystere sound pretty good to me.... And well mystre everyone knows and Uphonic everyone knows from man n the moon..and it's not like they are charging 15-20 bucks to see them..and same could've been said for the ETA party that was in feburary.. I wonder if like some other motive lies behind these post, but silly me what do I know..I've only been a party kid for less than one year..I would never know when a cock-block is in progress. *twirling around like i'm a crack supahstah* Nuku At 02:07 PM 4/19/99 -0700, you wrote: >A question, w/ a line-up of noticeably non >headliners, why would anyone pay 10 dollars for a one >night outdoor party. I mean, a requested donation is >understandable, however w/ dj's that are coming up in >the scene, and a crew who has never thrown a party >asking for 10 dollar pre-sale only outdoor party is a >lil ballsy. well thats my opinion.... whats yours?? > >love n' 45 > >jeremy > > > >=== >Jeremy B. Bispo >Member Support Specialist >Cybergold, Inc. >2921 Adeline >Berkeley CA 94703 >510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > >---Ezzm@aol.com wrote: >> >> Tranquility is coming at you with the first ov many >parties to come. friday >> july 2nd, Tranquility presents, WELCOME TO >TRANQUILITY. This will be a very >> limited PRE-SALE ONLY EVENT. 200 Tix will be >relesed. $10 per ticket. Dj's >> for the night will be: ALIAS, MYSTRE, UPHONIC, >TELENE, and MERLYN. >> Experience the emotion, consciousness, and most >true escape frome reality >> with out the drugs. >> 415-435-7567 >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:30:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5320 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:30:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 5306 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:29:59 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:29:59 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA12471 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA01092 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:28:02 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "SFRaves" Subject: RE: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:34:19 -0700 Message-ID: <001e01be8aac$61ba4d40$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Ezzm@aol.com > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:01 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties > >$10 per ticket. I don't care who the DJ's are, charging $$ for an outdoor party is wrong. Unless you are throwing it on private land, location costs are free and most DJ's will spin outdoor parties for free. A Donations request policy is the standard for outdoor parties. Besides if a Cop shows up to your party and you've been collecting money then you get shut down but if it is a free party then you MIGHT be allowed to continue. MooK<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:31:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6275 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:31:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 6263 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:31:12 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:31:12 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vLVMa00664 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:29:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <6b604ea4.244cfa49@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:29:45 EDT Subject: Presumptuous ravers.....I have seen it all now! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Sera13@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sfravers, hello its sera. i saw a lot of you at Harmony the other night i am sure, unfortunately it was in the line to get in to Harmony. i did not make it passed the tent because i decided to pass out. for those of you who were talking shit while my boyfriend was carrying me out of line about how stupid I was for O.D.ing sorry to burst your bubble, I was sober! Ooops on your part! This makes me very unhappy when people are so caught up in their sober raver bullshit that they forget that there is a person who needs their help. Please get a clue and remeber we are here for one another, to help one another, to love one another and finally to dance with one another. I hope some of you think before you open your mouths the next time you see some poor, fellow human being struggling (whether it be vomiting, passing out, whatever) from a drug, a neurobiological anomaly or anything else for that matter; in fact I hope you think to help. Anywho, I would like to thank all of you who had fun at Harmony, thanks for dancing for me! See you back on the dance floor in no time! HUGS and my Acupunctures, Sera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:40:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11621 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:40:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 11479 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:40:13 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:40:13 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vRLIa26022 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:38:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <168ed9d0.244cfc31@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:37:53 EDT Subject: Re: Disturbing experience at Harmony To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Sera13@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That is pretty wicked. I don't know what else there is to say to you........ Just leave her alone. Does it really satisfy you to humiliate her on the list and make her feel like shit in front of so many? The vibe is dead here. Cherries, Sera P.S. What is really going on? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:47:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14564 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:47:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14556 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:47:14 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:47:14 -0000 Received: from c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.87.180]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990419214712.UALX19957.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com>; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:47:12 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: , "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: RE: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:48:28 -0700 Message-ID: <000601be8aae$5cd8b080$508112ac@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199904192121.OAA24807@mail.netwiz.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk good one. that's really funny. whats one of your favourite songs so I can diss it? Or lets take something that is very special to you, close to your heart, and attack it publicly. Something that's changed your life. It's a really positive thread you're contributing to here. Joining people together. Encouraging people. Helping others to see past themselves. Its too easy today to be a cynic. a heckler. a disgruntled face in the crowd. try lifting something up someone up. Supporting something you believe in rather than tearing down anothers dreams. .....some people don't get it. Theres a message and power in "epic cheesy trance". For those of you who do get it-whose lives have been touched by it... keep believing in the music... "fall in love with music... and you will get by" gEoff ;) -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Niels P. Mayer Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:22 PM To: San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... My top vote is for "The Gamemaster" by Lost Tribe (Hooj). Any more?? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 21:56:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21148 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 21:55:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 21138 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:55:58 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:55:58 -0000 Received: from c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.87.180]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990419215556.UDKQ19957.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:55:56 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: RE: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... (epic cheesy trance BSP) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:57:12 -0700 Message-ID: <000701be8aaf$94c682a0$508112ac@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199904192121.OAA24807@mail.netwiz.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ...I personally love the energy and driving power of this track. Matt Darey has a gift as far as I'm concerned. His music has been the soundtracks to some of the most powerful moments in my life. Sunrise set at the last Dune, highlight of the last Stargaze... Bigger 98. The list goes on. His tracks harness the energy and pump up the crowd like none other I've seen yet. If anyone cares, I'm going to be spinning it (and other "epic cheezy trance" tracks) this Saturday at Drive Urgency, and down in LA at "Have a nice Rave" -(Chris Lawrence's new release Tonka outdoor party) next Sat too-sunrise set! see yall there in the speaker pits! Peace through Trance.... gEoff ;) -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Niels P. Mayer Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:22 PM To: San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... My top vote is for "The Gamemaster" by Lost Tribe (Hooj). Any more?? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:00:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23988 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:00:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 23674 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:59:58 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:59:58 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id iHEMa26022; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:50:32 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:50:30 EDT Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BBoiBreks@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Let's see, there are the old schoolers, the pawtykids, the posers, the tacky baby ravers, the polo sport wearing wanna be ravers sportin' the polo bags, the crunchies, the granolas, the trance heads, the beat nicks, the ghettos, the asian pride crew, the normals (who by the way, ruin EVERYTHING!) the rainbows, the candykids, the ultrafemmes, the ultra ghettos, the hoes (TUNA!) the 12 year old candy ravers, the obssesive compulsive kids who carry around travel sized purell and febreeze in their bags, the skaters turned raver, the candykids turned junglist, the insta-ravers, the breakbeaters, the b-boys, the b-girls, the preps, the jocks, the aliens, the tweekers, the kids who go only to make mad bank selling drugs, the nihilists, the multimedia light show fanatics, strumpets, the sideliners, the TOO involved kids, the ones w/ issues, the drivers,..... In any case, ravers are dirty and gross and I hope never to become one. = ) "I really don't care" BC the poser bboibreks From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:05:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29330 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:05:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 29316 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:05:53 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:05:53 -0000 Received: from Brikne@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vXNBa12143; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:04:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Brikne@aol.com Message-ID: <88eee66b.244d022e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:03:26 EDT Subject: re tranquility.... ten bucks is sooo fare To: Ezzm@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: Brikne@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dude, jeremy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:11:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4968 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:11:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 4952 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:11:54 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:11:54 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vYLRa21002; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:11:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <4570f842.244d03fc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:11:08 EDT Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers To: BBoiBreks@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/19/99 3:00:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BBoiBreks@aol.com writes: << ) >> what's a crunchie?? a nihilist? and a strumpet? just wanted to know thanx.. PLUR...valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:14:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7082 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:14:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 7068 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:14:03 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:14:03 -0000 Received: from Brikne@aol.com by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vDWRa26021; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:12:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Brikne@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:12:04 EDT Subject: oops. send the first letter to soon To: Ezzm@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: Brikne@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk uh, anywyas, so jeremy, there are some bomb ass djs spinning there, ill pay 20 gladly to see mystre (and ill drive for hours too...) in any event, these people are putting on a dope ass little party, and if they wanna charge ten bucks, then thats there business. we dont have to go (though i am). im sure if we could all throw big free parties all the time so every could get togther we all would, but its just not pragmatic. and we should all want to support rad promoters so they will keep throwin the parties we like to go too! hugs and cheers, Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:18:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9688 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:18:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 9666 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:18:52 -0000 Received: from web204.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.104) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:18:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419221902.7546.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.74] by web204.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:19:02 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:19:02 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: 1015 folsom = still open! To: Silvia Schumacher Cc: Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am there! love, michael o)-< --- Silvia Schumacher wrote: > So we are all seeing eachother next Friday for > trancing out to the > fabulous sound of John Digweed, all right!? > > PLUR, > Your Trancehead and crazy German, Silvia > > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, The Red Stickman wrote: > > > I confirmed this, it is not closed. Be safe, and > keep > > our night life going strong... > > > > love, > > michael > > o)-< > > > > --- Max McCauley wrote: > > > > > > I heard this and went nuts. > > > > > > Called Miss E from eklektic, she hadn't heard, > we > > > called DJ Siren who > > > works with spundae, for the bassment, and she > hadn't > > > heard anything and > > > she called the nikita crew and they hadn't heard > > > anything about it. > > > > > > so I called Darin from Blue Room who lives by > there > > > and he said he saw > > > people going in as he drove by after eklektic > last > > > night. > > > > > > And so I would say it's probably not true. > > > > > > fingers crossed though, seen. > > > > > > 10-4, > > > duh, > > > max > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:19:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10354 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:19:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 10346 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:19:13 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:19:13 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.182]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-48930U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA451 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:27:30 -0700 Message-ID: <028e01be8ab2$815e3840$b60318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: Subject: okay...so i made a mistake by asking.. Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:18:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_028B_01BE8A77.D3EB3120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_028B_01BE8A77.D3EB3120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, so I made a mistake by asking you guys to categorize the many = types of ravers...my bad. You guys (not directed in particular to = anyone..but you know who you are) dont have to be all cynical or = sarcastic about things....geez....whats up with the world = nowadays???!!??? Practice what you preach...gosh..PLUR (seems like it = has no meaning at all) Nick ------=_NextPart_000_028B_01BE8A77.D3EB3120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Okay, so I made a mistake by asking = you guys to=20 categorize the many types of ravers...my bad.  You guys (not = directed in=20 particular to anyone..but you know who you are) dont have to be all = cynical or=20 sarcastic about things....geez....whats up with the world = nowadays???!!??? =20 Practice what you  preach...gosh..PLUR (seems like it has no = meaning at=20 all)
 
 
Nick
------=_NextPart_000_028B_01BE8A77.D3EB3120-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:26:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14020 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:26:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 13996 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:26:02 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:26:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419222945.8110.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:29:45 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: +vs-=? wasRE: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... To: gherbst@home.com, npm@netwiz.net, San FranDisco Ravers List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Someone once wrote to me on this list that people who are really positive are afraid of or denying the negative. I dont believe that to be true. I think that people who are negative are afraid of the positive. Nobody says that being positive can end a war, but think about it: It is very meaningful to make a positive contribution to a negative issue,(i.e. feeding the homeless) but how meaningful is it to make a negative contribution to a positive issue? It may be much EASIER to contribute negatively, maybe thats why people do it, but Im not one to take the easy way, thats for sure, so keep it positive. Peace, jessica --- Geoff Herbst wrote: > good one. > > that's really funny. > > whats one of your favourite songs so I can diss it? > Or lets take something > that is very special > to you, close to your heart, and attack it publicly. > Something that's > changed your life. > > It's a really positive thread you're contributing to > here. Joining people > together. Encouraging people. > Helping others to see past themselves. > > Its too easy today to be a cynic. a heckler. a > disgruntled face in the > crowd. try lifting something up > someone up. Supporting something you believe in > rather than tearing down > anothers dreams. > > .....some people don't get it. Theres a message > and power in "epic cheesy > trance". > > For those of you who do get it-whose lives have been > touched by it... keep > believing in the music... > > "fall in love with music... and you will get by" > > gEoff ;) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org > [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On > Behalf Of Niels P. Mayer > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:22 PM > To: San FranDisco Ravers List > Subject: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" > category are... > > My top vote is for > > "The Gamemaster" by Lost Tribe (Hooj). > > Any more?? > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) > http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 > 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:26:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14632 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:26:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 14520 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:26:17 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:26:17 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29166 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990419152932.007f1eb0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:29:32 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: my harmony review In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 05:43 PM 4/18/99 -0700, Deepfog wrote: >oh, wait, i didn't go. > >never mind... ;] Me neither... *pout* I'm the deprived girl who has never been to a Harmony party. SOmeday... I hope. But I did make it to Epiphany! What a beautiful party. That location was amazing... so green and pretty. And lots of beautiful happy people and KILLER breakbeats. What a wonderful afternoon. Love, Carly (the girl with the blue wig :) *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:26:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14961 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:26:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 14770 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:26:25 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:26:25 -0000 Received: from FReShKiD7@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vFNBa24955; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:25:48 -0400 (EDT) From: FReShKiD7@aol.com Message-ID: <2dae6fd8.244d0761@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:25:37 EDT Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, BBoiBreks@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Reply-To: FReShKiD7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hahahaha! And we all KNOW who the STRUMPETS are ! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:27:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16278 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:27:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 16264 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:27:39 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:27:39 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 3QXYa27251 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:26:59 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:26:52 EDT Subject: Re: Disturbing experience at Harmony To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I actually met this girl while I was sleeping/resting in the first aid room saturday night. SHe had a bandage on her arm and was talking about how awful the accident had been. I believe she was in the first aid room because a guy (that had been in the accident with her) 's stiches had ripped open. PRiorities people!! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:29:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18554 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:29:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 18545 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:29:31 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:29:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419222754.23172.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.74] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:27:54 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:27:54 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: SUNSET BOAT PARTY!!! To: johnr@hrg.com, SFraves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wish I had seen you! I was there, toward the back in the house room near the bar...with deepbeep and Jordanna. We were monopolizing the back area rather nicely... :P About the party, tho. I was definitely impressed with the music on the house deck, but I was expecting *jungle* on the 2nd deck...oh well. The beautiful lazer show by Skippy and Micro made up for it tho. seeya, michael o)-< --- John Rodriguez wrote: > Once again Sunset put together the dope ass rump > shakin party on the bay > that just blows the doors off any club. After some > pre boarding drinkin > festivities (all I could find was Budwiser damnit!), > loaded onto the > boat and proceeded to get down. Galen, Solar, and > Miles all played > great...kept the crowd movin all night. There was > some KILLER hip hop > goin on upstairs that was just totally rockin as > well. > > Highlight- At one point the music was shut off, > security got on the mic > and said the boat was being turned around because > someone had been > smoking inside the cabin. After some heavy > convincing by the audience, > the seeminly uptight security gaurd relented, and > announced things would > go on if everyone danced their hardest for the next > to tracks. SLAMMIN > VIBE BUILDIN IN ACTION. > > Anyways, it was a great end to a great weekend :) > > john r > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:30:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19684 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:30:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 19464 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:30:18 -0000 Received: from smtp.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:30:18 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:23:16 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD2501@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: 'The Red Stickman' , johnr@hrg.com, SFraves Subject: RE: SUNSET BOAT PARTY!!! Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:23:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE8AB3.3812FC60" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8AB3.3812FC60 Content-Type: text/plain do you know when the next boat party is going to be? > -----Original Message----- > From: The Red Stickman [SMTP:red_stickman@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 3:28 PM > To: johnr@hrg.com; SFraves > Subject: Re: SUNSET BOAT PARTY!!! > > I wish I had seen you! I was there, toward the back > in the house room near the bar...with deepbeep and > Jordanna. We were monopolizing the back area rather > nicely... :P > > About the party, tho. I was definitely impressed with > the music on the house deck, but I was expecting > *jungle* on the 2nd deck...oh well. The beautiful > lazer show by Skippy and Micro made up for it tho. > > seeya, > michael > o)-< > > --- John Rodriguez wrote: > > Once again Sunset put together the dope ass rump > > shakin party on the bay > > that just blows the doors off any club. After some > > pre boarding drinkin > > festivities (all I could find was Budwiser damnit!), > > loaded onto the > > boat and proceeded to get down. Galen, Solar, and > > Miles all played > > great...kept the crowd movin all night. There was > > some KILLER hip hop > > goin on upstairs that was just totally rockin as > > well. > > > > Highlight- At one point the music was shut off, > > security got on the mic > > and said the boat was being turned around because > > someone had been > > smoking inside the cabin. After some heavy > > convincing by the audience, > > the seeminly uptight security gaurd relented, and > > announced things would > > go on if everyone danced their hardest for the next > > to tracks. SLAMMIN > > VIBE BUILDIN IN ACTION. > > > > Anyways, it was a great end to a great weekend :) > > > > john r > > > > > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8AB3.3812FC60 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: SUNSET BOAT PARTY!!!

do you know when the = next boat party is going to be?   

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   The Red Stickman = [SMTP:red_stickman@yahoo.com]
    Sent:   Monday, April 19, 1999 3:28 PM
    To:     johnr@hrg.com; SFraves
    Subject:       = Re: SUNSET BOAT PARTY!!!

    I wish I had seen you!  I was = there, toward the back
    in the house room near the bar...with = deepbeep and
    Jordanna.  We were monopolizing = the back area rather
    nicely... :P

    About the party, tho.  I was = definitely impressed with
    the music on the house deck, but I = was expecting
    *jungle* on the 2nd deck...oh = well.  The beautiful
    lazer show by Skippy and Micro made = up for it tho.

    seeya,
    michael
    o)-<

    --- John Rodriguez = <johnr@hrg.com> wrote:
    > Once again Sunset put together = the dope ass rump
    > shakin party on the bay
    > that just blows the doors off = any club.  After some
    > pre boarding drinkin
    > festivities (all I could find = was Budwiser damnit!),
    > loaded onto the
    > boat and proceeded to get = down.  Galen, Solar, and
    > Miles all played
    > great...kept the crowd movin all = night.  There was
    > some KILLER hip hop
    > goin on upstairs that was just = totally rockin as
    > well.
    >
    > Highlight-  At one point = the music was shut off,
    > security got on the mic
    > and said the boat was being = turned around because
    > someone had been
    > smoking inside the cabin.  = After some heavy
    > convincing by the = audience,
    > the seeminly uptight security = gaurd relented, and
    > announced things would
    > go on if everyone danced their = hardest for the next
    > to tracks.  SLAMMIN
    > VIBE BUILDIN IN ACTION.
    >
    > Anyways, it was a great end to a = great weekend :)
    >
    > john r
    >
    >
    >

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8AB3.3812FC60-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:30:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20418 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 20306 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:30:41 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:30:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419222853.5370.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.243] by web4; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:28:53 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:28:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: oops. send the first letter to soon To: Brikne@aol.com, Ezzm@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I dont doubt the talent of these Dj's, if you chose to pay 20 bucks everytime you see Mystere on a flyer. Guess I better have Mystere play every party I throw. But seriously, a mandatory 10 dollars for a outdoor event to me is outta hand. Its not about how much ya spend on an event its the heart that goes into it. 10 X 200 = 2000 I dont know if $2,000 dollars is a fare budget for an outdoor party. but hey thats just me, so even if they are charging to cover cost's which i kinda support. Is $2,000 fair amount to earn on such an event. What's the profit margin on this event?? yeah see...nothing against the crew, I'm sure they have the best of intentions. However, thats just a lil steep, if ya ask me. However I'm sure you'll get your 200 kids, cuz God knows everyone will pay $20 to see Mystere, just look at a few of those parties out there. love n' 45 jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:30:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20761 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:30:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 20468 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:30:46 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:30:46 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.182]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-48930U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA393; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:39:05 -0700 Message-ID: <02cc01be8ab4$1f710700$b60318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: , , References: <2dae6fd8.244d0761@aol.com> Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:29:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No...not all of us knows what strumpets are...care to explain????? Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 3:25 PM Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers > Hahahaha! And we all KNOW who the STRUMPETS are ! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:34:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23584 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:34:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23546 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:34:12 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:34:12 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00509; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:29:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'nngo@velos.com'" , FReShKiD7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, BBoiBreks@aol.com Subject: The many different types of ravers Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:29:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn kids!! Look it up in the dictionary!! A strumpet is a *nicer* way of saying WHORE I hope you're happy!! LOL just kidding Naomi --don't ask how I knew that! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:41:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26443 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 26435 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:41:39 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:41:39 -0000 Received: from FReShKiD7@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 4HARa05708; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:38:02 -0400 (EDT) From: FReShKiD7@aol.com Message-ID: <4168d676.244d0a22@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:37:22 EDT Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers To: NThompson@pgmusa.com, BBoiBreks@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Reply-To: FReShKiD7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ARGH YOU RELEASED THE TRUTH BEHIND STRUMPET !! it was suppose to be a SECRET !! lol no one knows what im talking about when i say strumpet and thats exactly why i say it ! cuzz No one knows except me and friends ! well close friends who know me well... LoL isss ok David... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 22:53:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1872 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 22:53:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 1864 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 22:53:42 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 22:53:42 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07617; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990419155700.007ff7f0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:57:00 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, AValverde@northpointcom.com, Wheresplur@aol.com From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: Disturbing experience at Harmony Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Including the word "PLUR" in an email and feigning to care about fellow ravers does not give anybody the right to judge and disrespect a person he/she doesn't know or understand. Its seems PLUR no longer has any meaning or relevance... especially since the only people preaching "PLUR" are those who are judging, categorizing, and being publicly disprespectful. Car accident or not-- who are we to decide whether or not this girl was being uncaring and disrespectful to her friends? I'm honestly more disapointed by the attitude towards this girl than this girl's attitude towards her friends. There is enough hypocrisy to deal with in the world... let's try not to contribute to the problem. Preaching PLUR does not a person automatically "good" or right. We have to set examples through our actions. A cliche response to a cliche motto: Practice what you preach. Love and respect, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:00:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5363 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:00:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 5355 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:00:02 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:00:02 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA28866 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:59:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca11-197.ix.netcom.com(209.109.237.197) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma028798; Mon Apr 19 17:59:15 1999 Message-ID: <37196724.14B3@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:01:25 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Location Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk San Jose From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:04:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7546 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:04:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 7413 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:04:43 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:04:43 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vBXMa27249 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:04:12 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: <5e9ccf46.244d1069@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:04:09 EDT Subject: BP: Come Out and Play Presents...... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: DjShUbErT@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Come out and Play Presents: Flavor April24th 1999 Djs: Shubert ( Nocturnal Groove ), Dizolve ( Nocturnal Groove) , Atomic Dj ( V.O.R.G ), Jeff ( Atp ), Damon ( Atp ) Free daytime potluck BBQ 12 noon, Central Park Santa Clara info 408-302-3748 leave an area code please Look for more daytime warmup parties TBA soon From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:09:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9851 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:09:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 9841 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:09:13 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:09:13 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8LTDEKA; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:09:02 EDT To: Macias20@aol.com Cc: Peanut5367@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:29:44 -0700 Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* Message-ID: <19990419.161240.-78231.0.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk East side san jo. Peace, Theresa On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:27 EDT Macias20@aol.com writes: >I live in da south bay.. san jose/santa clara... Anyone from there??? >love >and mush, valerie AKA sparkles ;) > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:09:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10330 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:09:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 10282 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:09:23 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:09:23 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22087; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990419161239.00802a80@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:12:39 -0700 To: npm@netwiz.net From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <199904192121.OAA24807@mail.netwiz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 02:21 PM 4/19/99 -0700, you wrote: >My top vote is for > >"The Gamemaster" by Lost Tribe (Hooj). > >Any more?? > That's one of my boyfriend's favorites... and he HATES cheezy trance.... go figure. It's got a solid beautiful melody though... maybe the lyrics get a little overkill... but to each his own... I kind of like the song. Paul Oakenfold mixed it on Tranceport... It's a pretty old track tho, isn't it? ANybody know when it came out? -Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:10:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11295 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:10:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 11283 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:10:15 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:10:15 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8LTDEV8; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:09:02 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:12:34 -0700 Subject: Weekend rieview!!!!! Message-ID: <19990419.161240.-78231.3.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 11-12,29-30,38-39,46-47,49-52 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Damn I had a dope weekend, and now I have to return to tha real world. Friday I went up to Berkeley to visit my folks sarah and demetrie and head up to this jungle party at a frat house. So I get there and see my boy Nick (Nman), Max (MC Duh), Mike (Megatron 45) and Erin (Tha Pimpstress). You all rocked. And me and Max got married so I'm now Mrs. Duh. Saturday lounged and finally made it up to Epiphany in time to see Jungle Life Crew and Uncle Noah, and of course MC Duh (this was kindof an all MC Duh weekend). Got to see a lot of my folks there. After that we chill for a little and head to harmony, really early cause my friends didn't have presales. Waiting in line was even fun tho cause I was surrounded by cool peeps, and some guy was playing mars on his little boombox so we even had music. Finally, we get in tha place and fucking trip cause of how awesomee it looks in there (I have never seen 2nd and Jax look better) and tha fact that the front room is JUNGLE!!!! Protolab was rippin shit up but I wanted to check out the rest of the party. I was dancing in the tech house room for a little bit, but then I just started tripping way too fucking hard. I was loving it tho because I can't lose my mind like that on e. This might not make sense to anyone, but sitting in tha chill room just tripping off tha puzzle pieces and flowers and lights and being in a perfect state of harmony with my folks and tha jolly green goddess, I really felt harmony deep within my soul. So much that I guess you could say that I started speaking in tongues only humming and singing and making a noise kinda like "Om" backwards "Mwah" and not being able to stop like having no control over my own vocal cords, but just letting my voice vibrate and resonate through my body and soul, in kindof a meditative sitting state. I'm curious to know if anyone has ever experienced this on mushrooms or whatever cause it was awesome even tho I'm sure whoever heard me probably thought I was insane. After I returned to more of a controlled state I danced in tha jungle room for awhile, then I went to go chill with those beautiful children of tha sun. You guys are tha shit!!!!!! That was the perfect kick it people watching spot, and I had all needed: dope ass music (greg sandler and angel alanis= amazing), orange juice, buds, water, and good folks to talk to and tell all about my amazing trip. I was so happy too because i've never smoked out with Spencer. I love Spencer, not only for his bomb hair. In tha morning I finally got that dancing bug (this was much more of a chilling party for me) so I had to step into tha jungle. Sarah, you are tha shit darlin and I will dance with you anytime. And Max, you know I love you cause you got my song on!!!!!!!!!! Crazy Lover!!!!!! Yeah that is my fuckin jam!!!! That just made my night. And when you announced to tha whole room that Harmony was my prom (I had two of the best dancers in tha place: Sarah and Demetrie) as my dates, so what else could I ask for? Thank you harmony and all the beautiful flower children who made this night beautiful. I wish I was still there. Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:15:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14167 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:15:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 14154 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:15:07 -0000 Received: from web508.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:15:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419231732.3413.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web508.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:17:32 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:17:32 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I live in sunny Central cali....in SACRAMENTO!!! It smells likes cows and exhaust out here :) but you gotta love trees and busy streets!! sherri :) --- dadope@juno.com wrote: > East side san jo. > > Peace, > Theresa > > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:27 EDT Macias20@aol.com > writes: > >I live in da south bay.. san jose/santa clara... > Anyone from there??? > >love > >and mush, valerie AKA sparkles ;) > > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:15:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14891 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:15:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 14868 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:15:53 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:15:53 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vKOBa25133; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <716147e8.244d12bc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:14:04 EDT Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers To: BBoiBreks@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/19/99 3:00:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BBoiBreks@aol.com writes: > the obssesive compulsive kids who carry around > travel sized purell and febreeze in their bags, that is i.... the obssesive compulsive kid....i do carry around travel sized purell and baby wipes in my bag with me. :)....also a first aid kit.. so if you get hurt..find me. ~Sami *hugznstuff* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:18:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16074 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:18:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 16059 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:18:35 -0000 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:18:35 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id QAA15537; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:18:32 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <19990419231732.3413.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In So-Cal baby! Orange County (behind the Orange curtain!), city of Santa Ana yo yo yo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:24:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19374 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:24:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 19345 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:24:45 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:24:45 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-f2 (mmf23.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.93]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17347; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904192324.QAA17347@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: goodvibe@geocities.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:26:43 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I could throw up, that's would I could do about it. Ha ha, David's gonna get trenchmouth. And hafta take out that big ugly piece of metal that's stuck in his face. BTW anyone who cares, David aka Freshkid7 is downright out of control and might I recommend NEVER sleeping in the same room with him. He makes all these weird noises and things, and no one can get to sleep. And then he wakes up at like 9 am and talks to himself. We had to lock him outside so he could run around in the backyard til he was ready to come inside. And Amanda found pee on the porch! EWWW!! Rafie On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:46:37 -0700, goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... >You are just upset because i mooned you out the back window of amanda's >car while driving to the thai restaurant after beat down sundayze and >there was nothing you could do about it because you had to keep your >eyes forward at all times! > >By the way... did you know that David was licking the spoons in the >chinese restaurant we got take-out from. yeah... and he put the spoon >back on the table in the same place setting too. > >Don't ask!!! > >How do topics start out as 5HTP and end up talking about what you do >when you are drunk and high? > >=Paul*E*Wog > >Rafie wrote: >> >> Dude let's not EVEN talk about people's cheap dirty butts, ok? At least >my >> butt doesn't leave smudges on the window when I moon people. I would >> suggest washing more frequently. I know its easy to get all dry and >chafed >> with all those showers in between jobs, so I suggest a light moisturizing >> lotion perhaps. That should keep it nice and soft. >> >> Rafie >> >> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:04:08 -0700, >> goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... >> >No Rafie!! I said 50 mg. You cheap butt slut! You intestine poker! Butt >> >dart champion! Oh yeah... >> >=Paul*E*Wog >> > >> >WOO1121@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Uhhhh, you told me a few months ago that you take like 500 mg of 5-HTP >> >after >> >> parties. Maybe you were just...LYING TO ME!!!!! >> >> >> >> Rafie >> >> ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu >> > >> > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:37:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28641 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:37:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 28530 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:37:00 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:37:00 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA04838 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:36:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca11-197.ix.netcom.com(209.109.237.197) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma004783; Mon Apr 19 18:35:52 1999 Message-ID: <371BCD3F.4518@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:41:41 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Reviews :() Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just wrote a long ass review of my weekend(D-Time party- Fremont, Harmony, and Beat Down), but the stupid ass that I am accidentally pressed yes on ' do you really want to discard this message' **ARG!** Fremont party: Small and relaxing Harmony: Phucken Awesome( Special thanks to Niko and Joey)... Christopher Lawrence and Angel Alanis had the crowd jumping--they are both amazing). Plus Angel Alanis' promo CD was being thrown out to the crowd and I got one, YEAH! / Beat Down: Same old, same old. Cool house tracks, cool peoples- Peace Elizabeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:37:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29324 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:37:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29306 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:37:33 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:37:33 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-f2 (mmf23.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.93]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03997; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904192337.QAA03997@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: montereypat@yahoo.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: Blink 182 and some upcoming concerts CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:39:30 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's funny, I know many (ex)candy kids and sooo many ravers in general that were into the ska scene in the past. I went to lots of shows in jr. high n stuff. You're right, I don't know about now, but back then ska shows had a young crowd that was extremeley energetic. Rafie On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:03:59 -0700 (PDT), montereypat@yahoo.com wrote... >Actually there is a large crossover between the "candy-raver" scene and >the "Ska/Punk" scene. You can find a positive vibe in both. It is >just a bit more physical at the concerts. Not too many people will say >"excuse me" or "sorry" as they ram an elbow in your side. But then >again, they will usally separate into groups where the elbow jabbers >can push and shove another jabbers. ;) > >BLINK182 will be at the Warped Tour in SF pier 30/32 on JULY 3rd. > >If anyone is interested, There will be a FREE concert at the UCSC >campus this Saturday (Apr 24) with Slow Gherkin, The Siren Six, The >Hippos, and Jefferies Fan Club. It is starting at 5pm. It will >outside on the stairs in the court yard by the College 8 Area. >http://www.bayareaska.com/spammap.gif > >*HUGZ* > pat > > >--- Mandi Girl wrote: >> I went to the Blink concert today and was surprised >> to see so many >> candyravers. I know Blink is becoming more popular, >> but I was just >> shocked. If any of you where there, I was the one >> in the green tank >> top dancing on the white truck in the middle of the >> crowd. The >> concert kicked ass. So I guess when I onced asked >> about >> incorpurating punk music into the rave scene, it >> wasn't too bad of an >> idea. Much Love, Mandi >> >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit >> http://www.msn.com >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 23:52:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10407 invoked by uid 6000); 19 Apr 1999 23:52:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 10398 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 23:52:32 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 23:52:32 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA07329 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:52:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca11-197.ix.netcom.com(209.109.237.197) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma007294; Mon Apr 19 18:51:39 1999 Message-ID: <371BD0EF.5C24@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:57:26 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I totally agree with Jeremy on this one, but only through assumptions-and possibly making an ass out of myself- Almost all outdoor locations are free and if it's late night then it's probablly not permitted unless it's a camp out type thing. >From experience(friends that were first starting to spin), when you first start spinning at parties you either spin for free or pretty damn cheap because all that you're really interested in is getting your name out- So their's my thoughts as well > > A question, w/ a line-up of noticeably non > headliners, why would anyone pay 10 dollars for a one > night outdoor party. I mean, a requested donation is > understandable, however w/ dj's that are coming up in > the scene, and a crew who has never thrown a party > asking for 10 dollar pre-sale only outdoor party is a > lil ballsy. well thats my opinion.... whats yours?? > > love n' 45 > > jeremy > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > ---Ezzm@aol.com wrote: > > > > Tranquility is coming at you with the first ov many > parties to come. friday > > july 2nd, Tranquility presents, WELCOME TO > TRANQUILITY. This will be a very > > limited PRE-SALE ONLY EVENT. 200 Tix will be > relesed. $10 per ticket. Dj's > > for the night will be: ALIAS, MYSTRE, UPHONIC, > TELENE, and MERLYN. > > Experience the emotion, consciousness, and most > true escape frome reality > > with out the drugs. > > 415-435-7567 > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:13:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20603 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:12:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 20589 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:12:56 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:12:56 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA10547 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:12:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca11-197.ix.netcom.com(209.109.237.197) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010327; Mon Apr 19 19:11:35 1999 Message-ID: <371BD59B.5346@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:17:24 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: ..Mystre and Mars Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To continue on this note, I'm not trying to put down anyone but I personally would never go to a party just to see mystre or mars spin. I don't know how many countless number of times I've seen them on a flyer, heard them being spoken of, or passed through a room in which one of them or both was spinning and knew they were spinning not because I could see them but because I've heard they're basic set so many damn times probablly know all of they're damn reocrds by now- They have talent, just like most of the other djs out there- But I personally don't find anything too special or spectacular about them. They've been played out and it's time to move on. I just had to speak my peace about the two finally and this seemed like a perfect time - Peace Elizabeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:26:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29291 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:26:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 29279 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:26:26 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:26:26 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.46) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:30:11 -0800 Message-ID: <371BC990.BFA0AA70@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:25:53 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties] References: <371BD0EF.5C24@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you guys are soo harsh. someone is putting effort into throwing a party, if you don't want to go, then don't go. what's the big deal? I'm going to go, because i know for a fact that three of those dj's are absolutely incredible, and the rest i'm excited to hear just because whoever picked them obviously has awsome taste. go whine about something else. or throw your own outdoor party for free so other people can complain about how messed up you are for whatever problems you have. paul . . . snip. . . > > --Ezzm@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > Tranquility is coming at you with the first ov many > > parties to come. friday > > > july 2nd, Tranquility presents, WELCOME TO > > TRANQUILITY. This will be a very > > > limited PRE-SALE ONLY EVENT. 200 Tix will be > > relesed. $10 per ticket. Dj's > > > for the night will be: ALIAS, MYSTRE, UPHONIC, > > TELENE, and MERLYN. > > > Experience the emotion, consciousness, and most > > true escape frome reality > > > with out the drugs. > > > 415-435-7567 > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:28:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 574 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:28:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 560 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:28:49 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:28:49 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA04346; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:28:45 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: Geoff Herbst cc: npm@netwiz.net, San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: RE: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... In-Reply-To: <000601be8aae$5cd8b080$508112ac@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Geoff, If I hadn't ever heard you dis a track, this would be a very valid point. However, you have, and Niels is as entitled to an opinion as anyone. Why is it okay to say 'Live105 house sucks' or 'rap sucks' (dissing whole genres when you couldn't have possibly heard everything they encompass) but it's not okay to say "the Gamemaster" sucks when he probably heard the whole track before stating this? Geoff, try not taking it so personally. You've slammed techno in the past to my face, and you might do it again (although over the time I've known you, you've gone from referring to techno as "unmelodic poop" and "nice drumtrack, now all it needs is a 303" to "I occasionally spin the stuff cause it's fun to layer"). I'm okay with that. ***Andy now nods with head slightly tilted and puts away copy of "I'm okay, you're okay" for today.*** The first step to not fighting the war over "tastes great" and "less filling" is realizing that Miller Light is in fact fattening empty calories AND tastes like urine. Peace, AndyW On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Geoff Herbst wrote: -&e->good one. -&e-> -&e->that's really funny. -&e-> -&e->whats one of your favourite songs so I can diss it? Or lets take something -&e->that is very special -&e->to you, close to your heart, and attack it publicly. Something that's -&e->changed your life. -&e-> -&e->It's a really positive thread you're contributing to here. Joining people -&e->together. Encouraging people. -&e->Helping others to see past themselves. -&e-> -&e->Its too easy today to be a cynic. a heckler. a disgruntled face in the -&e->crowd. try lifting something up -&e->someone up. Supporting something you believe in rather than tearing down -&e->anothers dreams. -&e-> -&e->.....some people don't get it. Theres a message and power in "epic cheesy -&e->trance". -&e-> -&e->For those of you who do get it-whose lives have been touched by it... keep -&e->believing in the music... -&e-> -&e->"fall in love with music... and you will get by" -&e-> -&e->gEoff ;) -&e-> -&e-> -&e-> -&e-> -&e-> -&e-> -&e->-----Original Message----- -&e->From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On -&e->Behalf Of Niels P. Mayer -&e->Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:22 PM -&e->To: San FranDisco Ravers List -&e->Subject: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... -&e-> -&e->My top vote is for -&e-> -&e->"The Gamemaster" by Lost Tribe (Hooj). -&e-> -&e->Any more?? -&e-> -&e-> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -&e-> >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << -&e-> >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << -&e-> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -&e-> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:29:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1288 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:29:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 1279 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:29:24 -0000 Received: from fillmore.paix.cp.net (HELO fillmore.criticalpath.net) (209.228.15.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:29:24 -0000 Received: (cpmta 27388 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 17:29:22 -0700 Date: 19 Apr 1999 17:29:22 -0700 Message-ID: <19990420002922.27387.cpmta@fillmore.criticalpath.net> X-Sent: 20 Apr 1999 00:29:22 GMT Received: from [207.251.8.165] by mail.club.net with HTTP; 19 Apr 1999 17:29:22 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Tabitha Hanrion X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.0 Subject: Lost Dog at Daybreaks Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A message was left on the Epiphany voicemail asking for help finding a lost dog who joined us all at the park. The dog's name is "BD" (or "Beady" maybe), w/ short black hair and big ears. If anyone has seen the poor lost pup, drop me a note and we'll get in touch with the owners. tabitha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:33:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2857 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:33:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2844 invoked by uid 233); 20 Apr 1999 00:33:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:33:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: unclenoah cc: E-Bumpers By the Bay Subject: Re: oh, PS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to jump on this bandwagon too! Max you da shiznit baby! Love, Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, unclenoah wrote: > > i want to join in on the "MC Duh is so cool" bandwagon! that guy was a > lot of fun! > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of > your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:35:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4657 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:35:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 4642 invoked by uid 233); 20 Apr 1999 00:35:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 20350 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:38:31 -0000 Received: from shell4.ba.best.com (giles@206.184.139.135) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:38:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (giles@localhost) by shell4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id LAA01641 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:38:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell4.ba.best.com: giles owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:38:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Bowkett X-Sender: giles@shell4.ba.best.com To: SF Raves Subject: paging derek/drekster/triad Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dang it, I lost your e-mail again. are you out there? ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ www.b ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ owket ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ t.com ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:35:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5292 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:35:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 5282 invoked by uid 233); 20 Apr 1999 00:35:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 27675 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 18:46:58 -0000 Received: from shell4.ba.best.com (giles@206.184.139.135) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 18:46:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (giles@localhost) by shell4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id LAA03388 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:46:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell4.ba.best.com: giles owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:46:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Giles Bowkett X-Sender: giles@shell4.ba.best.com To: SF Raves Subject: epiphany/harmony Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk epiphany: warning, BSC (blatant self-congratulation). awesome location!! beautiful sunshine!! good music!! jungle life crew tore the roof off, which is pretty impressive considering the location was outdoors. ;-) impressive showings from many others as well... harmony: hella hot, big party, pretty nice. had a great time. much respect to Matthew, you did something very cool, and to everyone else I ran into. much thanks to Megan, Diana, and Dina, without whom the party would have been different/nonexistent for me...also much respect to MC Duh, who tore it up at Epiphany & Harmony both, and to all the DJs who made my weekend rock. :-) ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ www.b ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ owket ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ t.com ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:38:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7911 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:38:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 7893 invoked by uid 233); 20 Apr 1999 00:38:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29136 invoked from network); 19 Apr 1999 21:22:31 -0000 Received: from law-f28.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 21:22:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 74419 invoked by uid 0); 16 Apr 1999 18:02:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990416180259.74418.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.115 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:02:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.115] From: "michael waldren" To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR Riddle Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:02:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Very good, but i have to burst your bubble. Nothing is thee answer. "your everyday junglist" Mikey---1380 SAT holdin up strong. >From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com >Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR Riddle >Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:18:20 EDT > >If you know the answer then tell me. > > > > > >> Here is a riddle for you . . . >> >> It's more powerful than God. >> It's more evil than the devil. >> The poor have it. >> The rich need it. >> If you eat it you will die. >> What is it??? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:44:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12602 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:44:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12342 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:44:03 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:44:03 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA20202 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:44:00 -0700 Message-ID: <00f301be8ac7$318cf940$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Alexis Wallace" To: Subject: Re: [MR - Music Related] CD Review Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:46:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for that review! Any CD that combines my two _favorite_ types of music (anything reggae first, then most electronic!) can potentially be wonderful! Like most people, I am also hesitant to purchase CDs due to the cost and not knowing if they will be good or not, but now I can rest assured that it is high quality. (Oh, how much I value others' opinions!) Of course, S & R's name on the CD should be enough, but always nice to have back-up! Merci, and have a funky Monday... hope everyone's Sunday was not too Sketchy, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Once you're in you gotta take it, Make your mind up, son, and face it, Because Warriors don't cry. -=- Beres Hammond -----Original Message----- From: unclenoah To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 1:51 PM Subject: [MR - Music Related] CD Review > >Sly & Robbie - Drum & Bass Strip to the Bone by Howie B > >if you don't know who Sly and Robbie are, then you *need* to find out. >S&R are a pair of excellent percussionists who have appeared on just >about every reggae record that you've heard (well, maybe not *every* one, >but a lot of 'em). they've also done some less than inspirational solo >work, but this latest venture, which finds them teamed with UK DJ Howie >B, steps into a new world of reggae, trip-hop, hip-hop and drum & bass. >no matter if you're a hardcore junglist, a rastaman or just a fan of >funky beats, there's something for you on this album. filled to the brim >with 12 tracks of music (over 71 minutes!), 'drum & Bass strip to the >bone' covers ground ranging from spacey ambience to more traditional >up-beat driven guitary reggae to dub at it's electronicy finest. i don't >buy many CDs but i happened to catch a couple of cuts from this one on my >favorite radio station, KDVS 90.3fm in Davis, over this last weekend, and >the album has lived up to my expectations. this is a good one for a long >drive, a day at the office or a relaxing evening at our crib. i think >this is the first "must have" CD that i've encountered in 1999. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >"Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of >your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:47:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15869 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:47:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 15859 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:47:29 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:47:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 19937 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:47:23 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:47:23 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (breakbeat@station203.thegrid.net [209.162.3.203]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11809 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371BCE76.7C0D4B45@thegrid.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:46:47 -0700 From: BreakBeat X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: arg. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, time for me to be a bastard and all that, but man at *least* 90% of the emails to this list are totally unreadable, yes i said it *unreadable*. Why must people start strains like "where does everyone live?" or "I'm bored at work what does everyone do?" Does anyone really care? I'm not even gonna go down the long worn path of "please make them NRR". What I suggest is people just not send them at all. There is no thought put into these kind of posts, and they do nothing but annoy, it's basiclly like people on IRC who flood the channel with "a/s/l". symmetry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:57:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21317 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:57:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 21297 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:57:43 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:57:43 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA20925 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:57:40 -0700 Message-ID: <015c01be8ac9$1a878060$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Alexis Wallace" To: Subject: Re: ..Mystre and Mars Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:59:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow, you guys should see the NorthWesterners (Seattle, etc.) freak over Mars and Mystre! Yes, I take them for granted too, as an SF native, but going to school up here, they are a rare commodity! I have been asked _a lot_ to pick up their mixtapes when I go home for breaks (ooh, a tiny pun!?) and I have been the object of jealousy when I tell people I have actually stepped into F-8. It's rather funny, indeed! So when I go home next weekend for a cousin's wedding, I am stocking up on tapes for my friends, it's time for early X-mas presents! Bisous, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Once you're in you gotta take it, Make your mind up, son, and face it, Because Warriors don't cry. -=- Beres Hammond -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Traver To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: ..Mystre and Mars >To continue on this note, I'm not trying to put down anyone but I >personally would never go to a party just to see mystre or mars spin. I >don't know how many countless number of times I've seen them on a flyer, >heard them being spoken of, or passed through a room in which one of >them or both was spinning and knew they were spinning not because I >could see them but because I've heard they're basic set so many damn >times probablly know all of they're damn reocrds by now- > >They have talent, just like most of the other djs out there- But I >personally don't find anything too special or spectacular about them. >They've been played out and it's time to move on. >I just had to speak my peace about the two finally and this seemed like >a perfect time - > >Peace >Elizabeth > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 00:58:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22166 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 00:58:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 22156 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:58:43 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:58:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 21448 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 00:58:41 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 00:58:41 -0000 Received: from omzz (organic@stk-ts1-h2-37-67.ispmodems.net [209.162.37.67]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA29791 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904200058.RAA29791@pop.thegrid.net> X-Sender: i038597@mail.thegrid.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:44:04 -0600 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: omz Subject: anyone want to trade mini-disc sets/mixs? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk its all about the free music network... email me. chris From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 01:09:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27125 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 01:09:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 26863 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 01:09:50 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 01:09:50 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vBTWa18186; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:07:55 EDT Subject: Re: Disturbing experience at Harmony To: Sera13@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Reply-To: BlueWAK@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I understand how you feel, given your own experience at being judged because you passed out and people believed you had OD'd. But in the case of the girl who left her friends in the hospital, that's a little too much for me. PLUR is something that everyone has to define for themselves, but I would hope in the same situation she was in, my friends would stick by me. Maybe we don't have ALL the facts, but what else do we need to know? And about this person publically humilating her and making her feel bad....I don't see any names being mentioned..it was simply someones opinion being expressed about something they experienced and is maybe trying to understand. She was telling someone in the first aid room how terrible the accident was....I can't see being in a terrible accident and leaving my friends in critical condition..but then that's just ME trying to understand. That's just something that is beyond my comprehension if I sit and think of my friends. Everyone judges...that's a fact. The people who responded to this by saying the person who sent the original e-mail is judging...is judging themselves. Maybe that person has had personal experiences that make this situation hurtful in some way...we don't have that information either. Everyone is entitled to their opinions... that's what makes you you.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 01:15:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 163 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 01:15:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 153 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 01:15:31 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 01:15:31 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA21852 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:15:28 -0700 Message-ID: <01aa01be8acb$96ca7f40$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Alexis Wallace" To: "SFRAVES" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties] Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:17:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Like Mr. Sober here, I think that it sounds fun, and dissing it almost makes me want to go more! :) I will be glad to be in SF, and it will prolly be my first outdoor party of the summer. I understand the possible aversion to paying ten hard-earned dollars, but hey, it's music and nature and funfunfun! Ten dolla don't holla, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Once you're in you gotta take it, Make your mind up, son, and face it, Because Warriors don't cry. -=- Beres Hammond -----Original Message----- From: Paul Sober To: SFRAVES Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties] >you guys are soo harsh. someone is putting effort into throwing a party, >if you don't want to go, then don't go. what's the big deal? I'm going to >go, because i know for a fact that three of those dj's are absolutely >incredible, and the rest i'm excited to hear just because whoever picked >them obviously has awsome taste. > >go whine about something else. or throw your own outdoor party for free so >other people can complain about how messed up you are for whatever problems >you have. > >paul > >. . . snip. . . > >> > --Ezzm@aol.com wrote: >> > > >> > > Tranquility is coming at you with the first ov many >> > parties to come. friday >> > > july 2nd, Tranquility presents, WELCOME TO >> > TRANQUILITY. This will be a very >> > > limited PRE-SALE ONLY EVENT. 200 Tix will be >> > relesed. $10 per ticket. Dj's >> > > for the night will be: ALIAS, MYSTRE, UPHONIC, >> > TELENE, and MERLYN. >> > > Experience the emotion, consciousness, and most >> > true escape frome reality >> > > with out the drugs. >> > > 415-435-7567 >> > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 01:24:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4647 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 01:24:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4595 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 01:24:33 -0000 Received: from law-f223.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.161) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 01:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 11836 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 01:24:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420012405.11835.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:24:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: dadope@juno.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Weekend rieview!!!!! Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:24:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks babe, you're a sweetie. we are all better than prom any day. you are a beautiful dancer as well. oh, congrats to you and max--haha. love and happiness sarah >From: dadope@juno.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Weekend rieview!!!!! >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:12:34 -0700 > >Damn I had a dope weekend, and now I have to return to tha real world. >Friday I went up to Berkeley to visit my folks sarah and demetrie and >head up to this jungle party at a frat house. So I get there and see my >boy Nick (Nman), Max (MC Duh), Mike (Megatron 45) and Erin (Tha >Pimpstress). You all rocked. And me and Max got married so I'm now Mrs. >Duh. Saturday lounged and finally made it up to Epiphany in time to see >Jungle Life Crew and Uncle Noah, and of course MC Duh (this was kindof an >all MC Duh weekend). Got to see a lot of my folks there. After that we >chill for a little and head to harmony, really early cause my friends >didn't have presales. Waiting in line was even fun tho cause I was >surrounded by cool peeps, and some guy was playing mars on his little >boombox so we even had music. > >Finally, we get in tha place and fucking trip cause of how awesomee it >looks in there (I have never seen 2nd and Jax look better) and tha fact >that the front room is JUNGLE!!!! Protolab was rippin shit up but I >wanted to check out the rest of the party. I was dancing in the tech >house room for a little bit, but then I just started tripping way too >fucking hard. I was loving it tho because I can't lose my mind like that >on e. This might not make sense to anyone, but sitting in tha chill room >just tripping off tha puzzle pieces and flowers and lights and being in a >perfect state of harmony with my folks and tha jolly green goddess, I >really felt harmony deep within my soul. So much that I guess you could >say that I started speaking in tongues only humming and singing and >making a noise kinda like "Om" backwards "Mwah" and not being able to >stop like having no control over my own vocal cords, but just letting my >voice vibrate and resonate through my body and soul, in kindof a >meditative sitting state. I'm curious to know if anyone has ever >experienced this on mushrooms or whatever cause it was awesome even tho >I'm sure whoever heard me probably thought I was insane. > >After I returned to more of a controlled state I danced in tha jungle >room for awhile, then I went to go chill with those beautiful children of >tha sun. You guys are tha shit!!!!!! That was the perfect kick it people >watching spot, and I had all needed: dope ass music (greg sandler and >angel alanis= amazing), orange juice, buds, water, and good folks to >talk to and tell all about my amazing trip. I was so happy too because >i've never smoked out with Spencer. I love Spencer, not only for his bomb >hair. > >In tha morning I finally got that dancing bug (this was much more of a >chilling party for me) so I had to step into tha jungle. Sarah, you are >tha shit darlin and I will dance with you anytime. And Max, you know I >love you cause you got my song on!!!!!!!!!! Crazy Lover!!!!!! Yeah that >is my fuckin jam!!!! That just made my night. And when you announced to >tha whole room that Harmony was my prom (I had two of the best dancers in >tha place: Sarah and Demetrie) as my dates, so what else could I ask for? > >Thank you harmony and all the beautiful flower children who made this >night beautiful. I wish I was still there. > >Peace, >Theresa > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 01:24:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4738 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 01:24:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 4614 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 01:24:35 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 01:24:35 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id yDVMa28862; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:23:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <60a6590e.244d30ec@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:22:52 EDT Subject: Re: 2nd & Jackson To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have to agree with John on this one. I was at Harmony and this isn't really directed to them. I thought they did a great job in Decorating the place... But Its sad I couldn't stay to enjoy it as much as I wanted to. Around midnight I became very sick and almost fainted. Thank god someone was there to help me not fall down. Whoever you were, you are an angel. I was trying to get out to get some air and no one would let me threw. I found it so disrespectful, but I guess when everyone is so freaking High, they just cant see someone is about to pass out, and when I ask to get through before I puck on their shirt they just stand there like IM talking in another language. IM TOTALLY DISGUSTED WITH 2nd and JACKSON. No wonder why I never stay.. IM sure that it really doesn't matter if I passed out from the heat now does it??? IM really starting to question the safety of 2nd and Jackson and the promoters who through parties there. That horrid place is booked every weekend for the rest of the year. I truly don't understand why! Now everyone says we only have a few places to through parties, but to have to go through what I experienced Saturday is a TRUE CRIME!!!! I mean no disrespect to the promoters, but this complete bullshit! Stacy, I know you very well and I don't mean to be like this, but I guess you could say (I have seen the light). If you don't get those damn Fans put in by the next couple of weeks I will take extra measure to see that you do. This is a hazard and I care enough about the people who come into your place to stand up for them as well as myself. If in fact that I didn't make it out of the warehouse and did pass out, you would be hearing from me personally as well a my lawyer! You have been running that place for way to long not to have done something about this a YEARS ago. IF YOU DO NOT TAKE CARE OF IT, I WILL!!!!! You can take that to the bank... If you feel that what IM saying is invalid then you need to evaluate the way you think! IM Truly disgusted by the you bissness ethics. I for one know that you have been bringing in money for years and to have not dealt with this matter is completely cruel and so selfish! Make sure you read this carefully Stacy, because if you think IM going to stand down and watch this happen, you are dead wrong. I will be there for every party and will make sure that the police as well as any other organizations for safety will make sure that you take care of it. Stacy, IM sure you are surprise at my attitude, but if someone like me can make you change and if I cant someone of an even higher power will!!!! I only say this for your benefit!!!! Take care of it RIGHT NOW! Or I will lose any sort of respect for you Stacy... I don't want to hear that you are going to fix the fans, We all have heard that for years now! I want to hear that they are in and running! You have 14 days, I hope you get off your ass and take care of it today! I made this letter public for the purpose of making sure you all realize that if Stacy doesn't take care of you (the people) then I will make it my duty as a promoter and a raver to look at for you all! I have faith that you will read this letter and take it the right way Stacy. Please understand that IM coming from the heart!! PEACE! SINCERELY YOURS< Jeannie In a message dated 4/19/99 11:35:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Jason.LEE@adecco.com writes: << Look, its one thing to throw a party with kick ass line up and a kick ass vibe, but it's another to throw a party in a venue that sucks the life energy out of you and is completely uncomfortable and intolerable, to accomplish both of these in one shot, is stupid. FOR me and I'm sure alot of others I will not go ..... period. I don't care if all the biggest DJ's in the world or the Best Sound System was rocking the joint, I will not GO. I will no longer be subjected to the lame ass bullshit of spending 20 or more dollars to satisfy the person thats throwing the party that has no interest in satisfying the needs my 20 or some odd dollars come with. Harmony and others throw great parties, but as long as they are at 2nd & Jackson, I will not be at any one of them, thankfully its that time of year again where the parties start to migrate to the outdoors where theres plenty of ventilation, and plenty of room to dance, and I'm sure that an outdoor venue in a remote location is less of a hassle to organize an event than it is to do one in a enclosed location..... Sorry Harmony people, you didn't get my attendance at this one...... Hope there are open ears to hear, and motivated minds to change the conditions in which parties are thrown in these days. Jason >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 01:50:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17629 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 01:50:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17531 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 01:50:43 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 01:50:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420014416.25298.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.215.142] by attach1; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:44:16 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:44:16 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties] To: Paul Sober , SFRAVES MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it is not being harsh....it is upholding a standard and a tradition that seems like it will soon die. I have thrown and helped throw several outdoor parties and ALL have been for free. It is not right to commercialize mother nature, nor is it right to screw it up for other people by throwing parties on public land and charging for them. Sure, there are costs, like sound and a generator and other misc. costs, but pass out a donation jar to try and recoup these costs. Take example from groups like gateway, sunset, cloudfactory, RAS and several others who have provided a great time outdoors for free. This is NOT a rip on TRANQUILITY, i am merely standing up for what i believe outdoor parties should be. i would hate to think that people come to expect to pay for an outdoor party. If this party is on private land and u are paying enough to justify charging $10 for a party then i apologize, like i said, this is not necessarily directed at you, but is rather my feelings on the issue as a whole. :) micron ---Paul Sober wrote: > > you guys are soo harsh. someone is putting effort into throwing a party, > if you don't want to go, then don't go. what's the big deal? I'm going to > go, because i know for a fact that three of those dj's are absolutely > incredible, and the rest i'm excited to hear just because whoever picked > them obviously has awsome taste. > > go whine about something else. or throw your own outdoor party for free so > other people can complain about how messed up you are for whatever problems > you have. > > paul > > . . . snip. . . > > > > --Ezzm@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > Tranquility is coming at you with the first ov many > > > parties to come. friday > > > > july 2nd, Tranquility presents, WELCOME TO > > > TRANQUILITY. This will be a very > > > > limited PRE-SALE ONLY EVENT. 200 Tix will be > > > relesed. $10 per ticket. Dj's > > > > for the night will be: ALIAS, MYSTRE, UPHONIC, > > > TELENE, and MERLYN. > > > > Experience the emotion, consciousness, and most > > > true escape frome reality > > > > with out the drugs. > > > > 415-435-7567 > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 02:18:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5906 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 02:18:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 5698 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 02:18:31 -0000 Received: from f89.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.195) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 02:18:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 20027 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 02:19:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420021927.20026.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 141.211.120.83 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:19:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [141.211.120.83] From: "Becky M" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR:Available Housing/Berkeley ravers email list? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:19:27 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi all! Sorry to spam, but I'm moving out to SF in June and I was wondering is there is a Berkeley ravers email list that I could have the address of? I'd really really like to like with party kids who are like me: easygoing, fun, but still responsible enough to pay the rent and bills. So if anyone on here knows of a place, or a Berekely list I can email teh same thing to... I'd really appreciate it! Becky PS If anyone is actually reading this... is trance the dominant music out there? How about breaks, or happy hardcore? I'm from Detroit, and sadly, we have none of either... I like everything, variety is good! PSS 1015 Folsum is pretty legendary... is it as cool as everyone says? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 02:44:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21211 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 02:44:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 21183 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 02:44:41 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 02:44:41 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vVSRa26489 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:43:03 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: <5d51ca80.244d433b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:40:59 EDT Subject: lunar enlightenment To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone going besides me??? <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 02:44:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21535 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 02:44:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 21336 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 02:44:47 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 02:44:47 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA05649 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990419194804.007fa100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:48:04 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: NRR: Need Apartment or House Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Speaking of housing in Berkeley... I have to be out of the dorms in less than a month... and my friends and I still haven't found an apartment. There are four of us... and we would like a 3 to 4 bedroom house or apartment in the Berkeley area... preferably somewhat near the campus. We are willing to pay about $500 ( EACH. So rent should be in the ballpark of $2000 (more or less). If anyone is moving or has a friend who's moving or knows of a place... etc, etc. Could you pretty pretty please let me know? Otherwise Sarah and I are gonna be homeless ravers :( Thank you so much, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 02:45:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22508 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 02:45:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 22294 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 02:45:12 -0000 Received: from www10.web2010.com (root@209.235.15.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 02:45:12 -0000 Received: from [130.212.13.26] (cra-blue.sfsu.edu [130.212.13.26]) by www10.web2010.com (8.9.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA23019; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904200243.WAA23019@www10.web2010.com> Subject: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ Date: Mon, 19 Apr 99 19:44:59 -0700 x-sender: liquidhg3@liquidmercury.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mercury / Sherry cc: "Mandi Girl" , "Susan" , "Daryll" , , "Trevor" , "Gerlando Piro" , "ceL" , "JASON BRANCH" , "Jonathan" , , "Dennis Valdivia" , "Kari Narasky" , "Ryan Tandy" , "Comolli, Loic" , , "Paul" , "Taylor" , "Vlad" , "Rick" , "Sherri" , "sHaWn" , "Skye" , , "Green, Yuri" , "Serena" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ all i have to say is WOW! they have really gone down hill.... - money hungry and in our faces at the door - dark, bitter vibe - dark, sad, scary music - NO AIR - hardly anyone dancing - i was hit-on more times that night than the night before when we went to Club X in SF !!! (my friends ass was even grabbed at the party) - so many people on SO many drugs (13 yr. old boy on E) ......however being the raver i am - i managed to get some SOBER vibe goin' with my girl and we danced it up in a circle - the visuals did kick ass in the main room _____________________sherry. mosley _ _____ _____________designer . dj / \ | Y Y \____________T.415.406.3537 |__|_| /ERCURY______mercury@liquidmercury.com \/_____________http://www.liquidmercury.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 02:53:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27881 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 02:53:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 27873 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 02:53:42 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 02:53:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 75745 invoked by uid 4000); 20 Apr 1999 02:53:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 02:53:39 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:53:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf To: Ravergrl27@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 2nd & Jackson In-Reply-To: <60a6590e.244d30ec@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > IM TOTALLY DISGUSTED WITH 2nd and JACKSON. No wonder why I never stay.. IM > sure that it really doesn't matter if I passed out from the heat now does > it??? > > IM really starting to question the safety of 2nd and Jackson and the > promoters who through parties there. You go girl! Brian From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 02:54:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28633 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 02:54:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 28624 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 02:54:22 -0000 Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (207.181.224.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 02:54:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 75749 invoked by uid 4000); 20 Apr 1999 02:54:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 02:54:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:54:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf To: npm@netwiz.net cc: San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: Re: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... In-Reply-To: <199904192121.OAA24807@mail.netwiz.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Lifetime achievement award goes to Hardfloor, of course. =) Brian On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Niels P. Mayer wrote: > My top vote is for > > "The Gamemaster" by Lost Tribe (Hooj). > > Any more?? > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 03:11:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10694 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 03:11:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 10672 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 03:11:43 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 03:11:43 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vNAMa27249 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:09:55 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <4a19da6f.244d49d4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:09:08 EDT Subject: Re: 2nd & Jackson To: SFRAVES@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk another thing about 2nd and jackson-those discusting port-a-potties. shoudln't that be a health hazard, having them venting in a closed place like that? another good reason for having an outdoor room at parties. just a thought. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 03:24:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19878 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 03:24:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 19867 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 03:24:54 -0000 Received: from web221.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 03:24:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420032540.27618.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.206.199] by web221.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:25:40 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:25:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Sensei Subject: RE: Disturbing experience at Harmony To: deepbeep , "Valverde, Andrew" Cc: "'Wheresplur@aol.com'" , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK. I'm sorry. But I have to say this. But this girl is not a normal girl!!!!!! I know who she is and she has some serious problems psychologically. Very serious. She comes off as the nicest, sweetest girl in the WORLD! Any of you who know her or met her know this. She seems to be the sweetest girl in the world. But, she's totally manipulative, disturbed, and on top of it, a compulsive liar. Constant drug usage doesn't help either, (Probably the cause of it). She has OD'd at parties. And almost again the other night, she was coming in and out of the medical room, almost, all night. Everyone who knows me, knows that I love everyone. She has to be the first person, in my life, that actually really bothered me as a normal person. Please if any of you know her or meet her, for your own safety and piece of mind, AVOID her! You'll end up doing it anyways.... She is the type that has no respect for PLUR, or anyone in the scene, or people in general. I have no respect for people who go out of their way to hurt people. --- deepbeep wrote: > And good luck to the both of you... It surely does > seem that, although you > both might have good intentions, you are quick on > the draw when it comes to > judging others for a decision they made, and > PUBLICALLY lambasting them for > it. Somehow, that does not stroke well with my sense > of Respect... Keep in > mind that -most likely-, you do not have a complete > understanding of what > this girl's situation was like. True, she might have > made a decision that > you do not support, but that IN NO WAY gives you the > right to flame her on > SFR... If you condemn others because their actions > do not conform to your > sense of 'PLUR', you'll have to realize that you're > being hypocritcal to a > certain extent. > > Does anyone remember that piece in Lotus about the > semantics of PLUR? Is > there a copy that online anywhere? I found that to > be a very well thought > out article, and think it might be useful to re-read > every now and then... > > :::hugs::: > d. > > > > At 11:20 AM 4/19/99 -0700, Valverde, Andrew wrote: > > > > >Good luck to her and you other kiddies that haven't > >yet figured what it's all really about yet.... > andy aka raveclub@aol.com > >-----Original Message----- > > Wheresplur@aol.com [SMTP:Wheresplur@aol.com] > > Monday, April 19, 1999 11:20 AM > > sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Disturbing experience at Harmony To all: > PLUR is not something > >that we all need to preach but something that > everyone > > I ran > >into someone at Harmony Saturday night and a > conversation that since has > > (Don't get me wrong...Harmony was a GREAT party, > this was my > >only unpleasant experience of the night). I saw a > girl who looked kind of > >down and asked if she was ok...she responded > >by saying that no she really wasn't. When asked > why, she continued to > explain > >that on the way to the party, she had gotten into a > car accident with some > > > > What in the hell > > If this is > >what this girls idea of Peace, Love, Unity and > Respect are all about when > it > >comes to her friends, I shudder to think of how she > interacts with others > > I took a moment to think of where I would be > in her situation. > >The ONLY answer I could come up with was pacing the > halls of the hospital > and > >the FIRST chance I got, at their bedside, holding > their hand, smoothing > their > >hair and helping their parents through a long > night!!! But ask > >yourself if it was you in the hospital and your > friend had left you., how > > Your instant reaction is going to be something > immature > > I would hope they would go have fun..but really > think about and then > >answer honestly...not to us...but to yourself. > What goes around comes > >around...I'm praying for you. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 03:26:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21141 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 03:26:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 21123 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 03:26:18 -0000 Received: from web202.mail.yahoo.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.102) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 03:26:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420032619.17906.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [129.37.20.20] by web202.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:26:19 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:26:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Creamy Goodness Reply-To: steve@warmth.org Subject: Unsubbing for a while To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, its been fun. I am now joining the masses to realize that this list is 90% shite. I really do enjoy the thoughtful commentarys brought on by Lara, Brian, AndyW and others, who always make me change my mind, but, enough is enough. I just started my great new job, where I will be kept plenty busy, so, I dont have time for the repitition that is sfraves. If you need to get a hold of me, you know how. Steve =) === "Stupid people just puzzle me." Vitaly Golomb "What we have here is failure to communicate." The warden in Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 03:31:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23092 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 03:31:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 23054 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 03:30:58 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?PfWDhhzP/KlK0qGoOZDk42MYtuY96/6c?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 03:30:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id UAA25843; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:25:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Mercury / Sherry cc: Mandi Girl , Susan , Daryll , FengFire@aol.com, Trevor , Gerlando Piro , ceL , JASON BRANCH , Jonathan , Juju0322@aol.com, Dennis Valdivia , Kari Narasky , Ryan Tandy , "Comolli, Loic" , MissNexa@aol.com, Paul , Taylor , Vlad , Rick , Sherri , sHaWn , Skye , Srainbowie@aol.com, "Green, Yuri" , Serena , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ In-Reply-To: <199904200243.WAA23019@www10.web2010.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Mercury / Sherry wrote: > - dark, sad, scary music You must have missed the jungle room where we had dark, wonderful, triumphant music > - NO AIR You must have missed the fan > - hardly anyone dancing You must have missed the brocking out in the jungle room > - i was hit-on more times that night than the night > before when we went to Club X in SF !!! > (my friends ass was even grabbed at the party) You must be pretty and your friend must have a nice bottom. > - so many people on SO many drugs > (13 yr. old boy on E) You must have missed me shouting out to all the sober ravers in my chemical-less except for Red Bull voice. Next time, try the drum & bass vibe. Or the more open-minded, this is what I get for going to an all ages massive in a location that gets used a lot and has a line of kids that don't have presales that starts forming at 7pm. Sorry to speak for a party I didn't throw but. Only sort of. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 03:32:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24303 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 03:32:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 24270 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 03:31:55 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 03:31:55 -0000 Received: from StephEE619@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vDZTa00664 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:30:51 -0400 (EDT) From: StephEE619@aol.com Message-ID: <5fa1a659.244d4ee0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:30:40 EDT Subject: technology and culture To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: StephEE619@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This guy told me, on the phone, that he writes on his computer a lot. That's cool. I write by hand because my computer knows too much about me as it is. If it thinks slow enough, it can watch me change shape. One day, I'll fit perfectly in front of it, like some geometric, mutant geek with no interpersonal skills left at all. I should take a picture of myself as a bowl of fruit and call it, "Still Life with Boring Title," and use it for the cover of this article. (There are some ideas I've actually been afraid to use because other people came up with them in my dreams.) The opinions expressed here are my own. I paid good money for them and sold them to BPM for a profit. Today's lecture is about technology and culture. A lot has been written about the subject, so i should just quote form other sources. There's a lot to be said for quoting your peers. One thing you could say is, "I have no thoughts of my own," or "the opinions expressed here are somebody else's." Please blame them. Since I do this as a public service, I don't intend to become the voice of the people >> the blind leading the people >> a not-for-profit opinion poll with me as the only participant. A party of one having dinner for two on a tricycle made for me. The training wheels are coming off and i'm off and running. Catch me later. Genderation Gap: He's no longer bad in bed: he's horizontally challenged. They say 90% of video camera owner admit to taping themselves engaged in sexual activity. I'm just borrowing one form my dad. My parents don't know how to use the computer. One of them operates the VCR ok, the other one the microwave (guess). And they both own a software company. When i was in sixth grade, my dad came home and wanted to play catch with a football, but he soon left, complaining that i threw like a girl. My daughter is two years old and she knows how to turn on the TV and operate the VCR. These days there are a lot of people choosing to create culture, rather than experience it. Alone in their rooms, keyboards in hand, making music, designing websites, not dancing, not partying, not giving a fuck. Technology allows me to do that. Ten years down the line, I'll only have myself to blame. But, for now, I have a therapist, and two parents. It's going to be easiest to start at the beginning. Teach by example. How my eyes get dry and itchy when i stare at the monitor for too long. How i need to remind myself to get up and look at things far a way, to get my focus back. How my legs lose their circulation, how i kink my neck when trying to talk on the phone and type at the same time. How i like it dark. My monitor lights the way. Oh yeah, and email. I'm going to write a whole article called, "Beware the Re: per. E-mail and its side effects." The cult of technology wants you! Membership is free with any purchase of a laser beam key chain or personal digital assistant. Half-price for cell phone owners and a rebate for those with pagers. Welcome to the club, now go home. Donate your brain cells to charity: the drugs have all they can use, for now. Josh Mintz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 03:35:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26456 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 03:35:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 26438 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 03:34:56 -0000 Received: from mailhost.ap.net (205.134.237.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 03:34:56 -0000 Received: from ap.net (D-14.Portal-04.ap.net [207.44.186.239]) by mailhost.ap.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA21158; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371BF3FC.1076EDDD@ap.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:26:52 -0700 From: URN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: *(o';'o)* -H@RMONY!!! References: <171bd31b.244b9417@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey there!! Just wanted to let you know the first DJ in the "tech-house tulips" room was none other than MAC. You can see him Friday April 23rd at "Digital Dreams" in Sacramento in the Harmony Arena as well as May 1st, at the first Harmonics theme party, "Disco Biscuits". Glad to hear you enjoyed the party as much as we all did. See you soon. love to you all, URN OoNOTlKo0@aol.com wrote: > everything last nite just feel into place for me. > when we got there i still didnt have a ticket for my girlfriend and > was kinda stressing. so when i was walking past these kids i overheard that > they had like 2 extra tickets and just kinda ignored it but then it hit me > and i was like "OMI GAWD!!!"" i ran over and bought one for 21$ (service > charge hehehe) and we ran to get in line. the line was SO fast! we got in > in like 15 minutes or 20 who knows but i was amazed. i think it was really > cool how the people who were gettin their tickets at the door got a number so > the HARMONY peeps could keep track of the population inside. ok so after we > got in we kinda walked around fo a while checkin out the rooms > (the back room "tech house tulips" wasnt open) the downtempo room was kinda > bad cause the sound of drum and daisies was kinda leakin thru ALOT so u had > to be by the speakers to dance to it but thats ok. so we just decided to > sit down for a bit and wait till the party went into full swing to get up and > dance and all. > after like 45 minutes of that my friend anton came up with anna and > we alll chilled for like 10 minutes before wandering into the back > room.....OMG!!! i was so blown away!!! does anyone know who that first dj was > cause im now a loyal follower. every song was totally ENERETIC and i couldnt > help but just bust out and dance. it was even better when i found out the > booth behind me was supllying leelte glowstix! so after a while in that room > me and emily went to check out the drum n bass room and i just had to dance > there too even i dont like jungle too much im kinda sick of trance right now > so it was a nice change. i really think i broadened my musical horizens > once again and it DOES feel good. > so for the rest oof the nite emily and i just sat on her blanket and > chilled in the downtempo room (did the sound go out at like 2:30 or was it > me? what happened? all of a sudden the bass went beserk and i was like > YYYYYEEEEEEEEOOOOW!) > so we left at like 3:30 :( cause emily was REALLY tired and i was > cool with that cause i got my fix. > SO THANKS everyone for makin it a kick ass party and to the harmony crew for > makin it a nite to remember! and was it not just KICK ASS that it wasnt > crowded in there!? omi gawd i was luvin it!!!! > > -aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 03:46:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2564 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 03:46:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 2552 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 03:46:49 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 03:46:49 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vIIBa24961 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:45:53 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <5e9e29ce.244d5268@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:45:44 EDT Subject: *read* my views..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My Views on different subjects: People: I've come to the conclusion that the people that have some clue of what's going on in the scene, go to the smaller parties. They care about the music and not the drugs. the want to take all electronic music to its limit and still excel from there on. Location: The locations have been very beautiful. Some were a houses, or at camp ground, out in the woods, or at warehouses, or at airplane hangers (i.e., Cloudfactory). Whether the locations be outdoors or enclosed, I have always felt comfortable being outdoors give you a warm feeling, like you are one with the earth. being indoors with a *small* group of people give me a feeling of togetherness. Like we are all here for the same purpose, we are one for the night. Bathrooms: Smaller parties always have cleaner bathrooms. i need to have a place to wash my hands. my hands must say clean during a party or I'm not comfortable. during "massives" or what ever you want to call them, it is a breeding ground for bacteria. take 2nd & jax for example: they put the port-a-poties inside. bacteria grows rapidly between the degrees of 40'F and 140'F. everyone knows it gets extremely ho in there. toilet paper runs out there. there is pee on the seats, don't want to even think about what else there is on there. someone (a promoter or whomever) should try to set a sanitary station that carries purell or has some damp/wet- wash clothes or paper towels to clean your hands with. its your health we're talking about here. Water & Food: Where do you get your energy from? what keeps you healthy? food and water, right? some parties have just water, that's fine. i personally like to sit down during the middle of a party and eat some food. it brings energy to me. selling fruit and veggies at parties, if they're not provided for you already, would be my first recommendation to all promoters. The Human Body: The human body is a very special and complicated tool. take care of it. don't do anything to harsh to it, for you may regret it someday. you cannot see what is going on inside of your body every second of the day. get to know you're body. don't eat anything that will upset your stomach or give you heartburn. don't kill to many brain cells. you need your brain to live. you need you heart to live. take your body. bathe it, show your love, appreciate all it has to hold. drugs eat you from the inside out. you may not see it, but it's. your body has been with you since they day you were born and will be with you till the day you die. take care of it. Friendship: Show you're love to those whom you may care for. don't hold back saying something to a loved one. don't hold back saying i love you to a friend. friends are there to love you back. friends will be there with you though thick and thin. acquittances come and go, but friends can last forever. help them out. show them love. Love: this is the most special thing. no one can explain what brings it to a person. maybe the tenderness of another's touch on your face can make you fall in love. the gentleness of their kiss. or the warmth of their body. there is love out there for everyone. you'll find it someday. .......well hopefully you've read this far and have gotten to know and understand me a little better. take care yourself people. ~Sami :) ...Tons of love out to all my friends. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 04:00:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10927 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 04:00:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 10908 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 04:00:38 -0000 Received: from f263.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.154) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 04:00:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 71665 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 04:00:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420040007.71664.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:00:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: mcarey@triad.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:00:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk If outdoor raves are really so much easier and cheaper, why are the vast majority of raves, even in the summertime, thrown indoors? ---------- >From: "MooK<><" >To: "SFRaves" >Subject: RE: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:34:19 -0700 > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves- owner@hyperreal.org]On >> Behalf Of Ezzm@aol.com >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:01 PM >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Subject: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties >> >>$10 per ticket. > >I don't care who the DJ's are, charging $$ for an outdoor party is wrong. >Unless you are throwing it on private land, location costs are free and most >DJ's will spin outdoor parties for free. A Donations request policy is the >standard for outdoor parties. Besides if a Cop shows up to your party and >you've been collecting money then you get shut down but if it is a free >party then you MIGHT be allowed to continue. > >MooK<>< > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 04:26:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20618 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 04:26:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 20610 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 04:26:26 -0000 Received: from kzsu.stanford.edu (36.118.0.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 04:26:26 -0000 Received: from kzsu.Stanford.EDU (KZSU.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.90]) by kzsu.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA19941 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:26:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: sorta BSP: if.then.else on An Epiphany of Sound Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I won't be there (so not REALLY a BSP), but Mike D. and Selena will be filling in for me and hosting emanate records artist if.then.else this Tuesday night on KZSU radio. He's sort of a cross of Aphex Twin and some Black Dog and some Spacetime Continuum. So that's what you can expect. Phat noise. So tune in and enjoy! (Realaudio details in the .sig) -- "An Epiphany of Sound" - 90.1 FM Tuesdays from 9PM-Mid Pacific. (Also on the web at http://realaudio.stanford.edu/). Playlists and humor list archives at http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~dougm "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 04:34:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24130 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 04:34:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 24075 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 04:34:08 -0000 Received: from dragon.ulink.net (209.160.21.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 04:34:08 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (max4-55.ulink.net [209.160.20.55]) by dragon.ulink.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id J224JTWR; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:34:29 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990419213027.0087c1e0@sol.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: ez053642@sol.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:30:27 -0700 To: epiphany@hyperreal.org From: "Terri E. Young" Subject: what a daybreaks!!!!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow. As a very happy Epiphany Cru member, I feel kind of lame writing a review of our own party, so I will simply say I am an ecstatically euphoric buglady and I want to say thanks to all the people who came out to represent for us on this special day (and made all my own hard work on decorations pay off!!!!). But even moreso, thanks to my crew members, my very special crew members, who have not only made great parties with me, but have brightened my life immensely!!!! And to our newbies (Michael, Dave, Greg, Zeel) thanks SO much for joining and contributing!!! Our family only grows stronger and more special with each party : ) And to Ethan...you know I love you. : ) smooch And to all our DJs: Jason, ReAch, Siphon, Hak, AndyW, Science, JLC, Uncle Noah, and Jahsh....thank you you all for sharing a gift with us to make that day even more magical and renewing. And to our MC Duh...you're tha bomb baby!! (And you and Joseph were SO COOL together!!!). See you all again....sooner than you might think ; ) Love From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 04:48:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2657 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 04:48:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 2482 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 04:48:11 -0000 Received: from diamond.sierra.net (207.135.224.253) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 04:48:11 -0000 Received: from sierra.net (jobs-d142.sierra.net [207.135.194.142]) by diamond.sierra.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00248; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371C06EF.C0EB8AE7@sierra.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:47:43 -0700 From: blondies@sierra.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sacraves@hyperreal.org Subject: -*HARMONY*/*EPIPHANY*-Review Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WOW- What a weekend. It was SOO worth the drive. Epiphany- Great people, a beautiful location, great music, amazing decorations ( terri you amaze me), and of course great weather. What else could you ask for? Harmony- I had blisters before i got there and the music took control over my whole body and forced me to be a dancing-fool. Angel Alanis had be going CRAZY, jumping up and down and screaming and yelling. That set reminded me why i love to rave. That was my idea of perfection, there was nothing in the whole world I would have rather been doing, but dancing and loving life at that very instant. Thank You- To the whole harmony crew for putting out all the effort to create on a truly great party, Same to all of the Epiphany folks, thank you so much to Terri and Dina, without you two my weekend would have not been complete, Greg and Josh, i wish you too could have stayed the music only got better!!and i missed my private dancer :-) , Shane, Mason, Tevia, Mook, Steph, and my whole tahoe crew, Shanebo and Linds. It was so great to finally meet Leslie ( I told you I would post :-) , and Patrice. Thank you all so much !! Sarah the tahoe one From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 05:24:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24837 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 05:24:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 24815 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 05:24:44 -0000 Received: from f208.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.99) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 05:24:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 28861 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 05:24:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420052416.28860.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.204.211 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:24:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.204.211] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: *wow...* HARMONY!!! Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:24:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello everyone! i've gotta say that the harmony crew, to say the least, really knows how to throw a party! but...why was it at 2nd and jackson!? i must admit that the springtime flower festival was the first event that i had ever attended at that location... the only reason i went (after hearing ONLY bad things about 2nd and crackson) is because the first harmony party i went to, (which was the 5 year anniversary, then make-up party) completely changed my outlook on so many important things... anyway, i felt such a wonderful vibe from the music, to the people, to the decorations...wow! they had the most amazing line-up, as usual.when i heard the beginning of christopher lawrences set, i got chills up and down my spine!! i pushed my way up front right next to the fan and stood there transfixed, god that felt good! unfortuanately, i missed greg's set (oh well, at least i heard him at children of the sun two weeks ago!!)but... i didn't have a schedule...dumb me. while i'm thinking about it, does anyone know if there's a possibility of harmony throwing another party in santa rosa? i loved the place that innercense '98 was held... REAL bathrooms, a chill-out area, trash cans (yay- the place didn't get TOO trashed), and, best of all, an OUTDOOR SMOKING AREA. i think it's essential to have as much fresh, clean air as possoble to dance. does anyone remember what that place was? i think it was an armory or something, but it was about three blocks away from harmonics. thank you SO MUCH, harmony. i think your crew personifies what raving IS and SHOULD be. well, i only ran into one sfraver... smilE!! he was so cute, he gave me a little smiley face sticker! i immediately recognized him because he had previously posted that he always wore pants with smiley faces, and big balloons! what a cool guy! i was the girl wearing overalls with fuzzy yellow pockets and GIANT bells, x-mas lights around my neck, a huge flourescent butterfly headband, and a winnie the pooh backpack... he was wearing a cool light-up stars headband, which i later saw some girl wearing. :-( oh, well.... i don't mind that much. okay, this is way too long, you know, being my first attempt at a review, and all!! take care! *hugs* -rani From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 05:30:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26782 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 05:30:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 26765 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 05:30:07 -0000 Received: from f227.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 05:30:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 62187 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 05:29:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420052939.62186.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.204.211 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:29:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.204.211] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Disturbing experience at Harmony Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:29:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk when i read the first post concerning this situation, i was deeply upset. however, the more i thought about it, the more i empathised (is that how you spell it?!) with the girl that went to the springtime flower festival even though she and her friends had been in a car accident. i find it excruciatingly hard to believe that she went out of pure selfishness. instead, i'd like to think that she went to get support from people that she considers her friends. we all need to be surrounded by love occasionally, right?! i know that i have benefitted a great deal from the vibes i get at a rave, ESPECIALLY one thrown by the harmony crew. *hugs* -rani >From: BlueWAK@aol.com >Reply-To: BlueWAK@aol.com >To: Sera13@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Disturbing experience at Harmony >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:07:55 EDT > >I understand how you feel, given your own experience at being judged because >you passed out and people believed you had OD'd. But in the case of the girl >who left her friends in the hospital, that's a little too much for me. PLUR >is something that everyone has to define for themselves, but I would hope in >the same situation she was in, my friends would stick by me. Maybe we don't >have ALL the facts, but what else do we need to know? And about this person >publically humilating her and making her feel bad....I don't see any names >being mentioned..it was simply someones opinion being expressed about >something they experienced and is maybe trying to understand. She was >telling someone in the first aid room how terrible the accident was....I >can't see being in a terrible accident and leaving my friends in critical >condition..but then that's just ME trying to understand. That's just >something that is beyond my comprehension if I sit and think of my friends. >Everyone judges...that's a fact. The people who responded to this by saying >the person who sent the original e-mail is judging...is judging themselves. >Maybe that person has had personal experiences that make this situation >hurtful in some way...we don't have that information either. Everyone is >entitled to their opinions... that's what makes you you.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 06:05:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13039 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 06:05:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 13028 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 06:05:08 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 06:05:08 -0000 Received: from BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vVFAa12143 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:04:23 -0400 (EDT) From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Message-ID: <5b5b9b44.244d72e6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:04:22 EDT Subject: 4:20 eventz? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sooo...is there anything happening for 4:20 today? I remember last year there was something in the Marin headlands....anyone know the deal? -=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 06:45:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25750 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 06:45:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25738 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 06:45:00 -0000 Received: from f58.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 06:45:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 84587 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 06:44:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420064432.84586.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.203.178.52 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:44:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.203.178.52] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (BSP) First Light Tickets 4/20/99 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:44:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I hope you are all having a good day and getting things done. I just wanted to let you all know that there are $15 pre-sales available for the Next First light party 5/15 There will be a limited number of these available 600 to be exact $20 there after. There are available at the following locations: T&J factory,F-8,Solid Groove,Harmonics and In the Mix in Sac.. Capacity will be limited This is our one year party and it has been a trying year for us. Several parties getting busted several makeup parties falling through etc.. But from this point forward a good majority of parties will be legal permitted parties. We are still working on a location right now for a free makeup but the space will not be ready till some time after the one year unfortunately. Some of you understand some of you are still very pissed and I totally know how you feel I have been in the same situation as a lot of you at one point or another but all we can say is please be patient and we will do our best to rectify the past situations. We are doing our best to insure that we get the proper permits so those of you with pre-sales get in. The last thing that we want is people that have pre-sales to not get in so we are taking the extra step on the permits. So on that note here is the lineup: ROOM 1 Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Happy Kid Marty Vs. Happy kid Ian, Andrei Morant (AKA Jack Mackrel Template records UK) Mars Vs. Mystre and Macadio ROOM 2 Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux (CONFIRMED), Protolab (Live D&B PA) Micron (Exclusive Downtempo set) Laser by UV99 Sound by Extreme Audio and Xtreme Ent. If you have any questions please feel free to email me. Thanks, Macadio (Tekno-Slut) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 06:46:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27288 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 06:46:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 27279 invoked by uid 233); 20 Apr 1999 06:46:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 5185 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 05:49:12 -0000 Received: from law-f225.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.163) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 05:49:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 26660 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 05:48:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420054844.26659.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 38.29.35.59 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:48:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [38.29.35.59] From: "michael waldren" To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, candygirl5384@hotmail.com Cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Blink 182 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:48:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You will never find a bigger Blink fan in the world. I have grown up off of their melodic punk and they even played at my high school. They will be in town with the warped tour on the fourth of July and I am there. Are you? Junglist Mikey >From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com >Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com >To: candygirl5384@hotmail.com >CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Blink 182 >Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:38:47 EDT > >NO! i love punk! I wanted to go to the concert really badly, see Blink 182 >and get some snowboarding in, but you know... Harmony calls. Next time they >play down here we should have a raver concert day. > > hugs n'stuff, >trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 07:01:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3155 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 07:00:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 3133 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 07:00:56 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 07:00:56 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id AAA03232; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:00:53 -0700 Message-ID: <030601be8afb$d752ba20$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: , Subject: [NRR] -=- today -=- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:03:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk H Y A P T P Y T 420 A S M O K E A F love alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Once you're in you gotta take it, Make your mind up, son, and face it, Because Warriors don't cry. -=- Beres Hammond From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 07:24:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16619 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 07:24:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 16592 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 07:24:23 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 07:24:23 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id yIMGa27250; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 03:23:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: <7a080b45.244d857f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 03:23:43 EDT Subject: Re: 2nd & Jackson To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Ezzm@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 19/4/99 11:35:32 AM, you wrote: >and I'm sure that an outdoor >venue in a remote location is less of a hassle to organize an event than it >is to do one in a enclosed location..... I am sorry but you are SOOOOOOO off. A lot of raves are cookie cutter parties, at least as far as the setup goes. But out door events are a bitch to throw. First of all the remote location you mention does not have permits available to it and could get busted at any time. Many problems arise from having such a remote location, including transport. usaully there is no road, just a trail. If there is a road the location is probaly not remote enough or the setup has to be done after nightfall. That means starting at 9:30, carrying huge assed speakers generators and shit down a windy narrow trail and getting everything setup by 10:30 or 11:00. And if the party does get busted, you are in a bunch of shit, cuz in addition to not having the right permit, you get tresspassing and a whole lotta other stuff thrown in by the creative cops or deputies or rangers that show up. Not to mention finding a nice location that doesn't have a set of condos built alongside it (what about a beach? that is hard). I totally respect your boycott of 2nd and jax (some with me and newberry's) but you should know outdoors for what they are worth. Don't blow them off by saying they are easy to put together. Outdoors are the bomb, cuz with the amount of work and risk involved only the most dedicated promoter will even try to throw one. thank you and regards da soopa (can't wait for summer to come) smak MO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 07:29:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19406 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 07:29:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 19392 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 07:29:09 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 07:29:09 -0000 Received: from [209.157.52.57] (dynamic57.pm01.east-bay.best.com [209.157.52.57]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id AAA25220 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:28:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: sftrance@shell18.ba.best.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <60a6590e.244d30ec@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="============_-1287525395==_============" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:30:55 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: MODA Subject: E A S T C O A S T S C E N E & N E W M O D A C D (bsp) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --============_-1287525395==_============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everyone....I've been following all of your posts on my powerbook while on the road and I must say that I am really pleased with the stability of positive posts. While Jazz-e and I have been on the East Coast quite a bit, playing, performing and promoting our new track, we've had the opportunity to witness the birth of scenes throughout the midwest and in parts of the Southeast. We've both accepted DJ/PA residencies in Atlanta and North Carolina, and I must tell you how much $$$$ these promoters are spending on their line-ups!!....When was the last time you saw Sasha, Digweed and Paul Van Dyke under one roof, then Platipus, Frankie Bones, Paul Oakenfeld the next week, DJ Rap on a Wednesday night and LTJ on a Thursday? Well, this is what's happening in Atlanta; promoters spending in upwards of $15,000 - $20,000 on their line-up, as the norm. The scene is at least two years back of us there. The scene is rather fresh, people really dress up and there are loads of smiling faces. Progressive Trance is really hitting hard in that part of the country, so is D N' B. It's been a while since we've played an event here, so we are really looking forward to playing this Saturday night in Oakland. Hope to see you there. I'll also be in the North Bay for an event on 5/21 and in Sacto. on 5/22. On another note, I am releasing my next CD, "Acid Factor - The Awakening," by the first week of June. It's a recent DJ set that I recorded, featuring alot of energetic progressive beats. Anyone interested in obtaining one at cost, please respond to this email for more info. 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20 Apr 1999 00:32:22 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:32:22 -0700 (PDT) From: zeel Subject: BSP: new tape -- "perpetuum mobile" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1804289383-924593542=:8545" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --0-1804289383-924593542=:8545 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline hey friendly inhabitants of sfraves! :=) my first SF tape is out there :=) ..called 'Perpetuum Mobile' it's a 94 minute mix of melodic trance and, at times, progressive house. Tracks include 'Ayla', 'Cafe de La Mar' (I know, I know :=))), also a few Terra Ferma tracks, Quazar, Van Bellen, etc. I received quite a few very positive reviews from Miami Winter Music 99 conference last month. Tape cover is attached for your viewing pleasure. I will soon distribute it in the stores around Bay Area, but for now it's available via mail order. If you'd like one, write out a check for $10 (includes postage), leave the payee blank, sign and send to zeel 927 hampshire street san francisco, ca 94110 i will mail you the tape within a week from receiving a check. Those going to Static tomorrow, can get it from me there for $8. here is one of a few reviews that i got from Miami (this is a BSP, after all :=)))): --- Hello! I don't know if you remember me and my friends, but we met you in LUSH in Southbeach about a month ago. We were all just sort of sitting around on the "zebra" couches the entire evening. Remember? Anyway, I listened to the tape that you gave me and I absolutely love it. In fact, it is permanently secured in my walkman, and I listen to it while I workout everyday. Let's just say that it is an energizer! Just wanted to let you know that your tape is awesome. 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Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26555 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 07:45:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 26543 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 07:45:40 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 07:45:40 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vZDYa24955 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 03:44:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: <7df5969.244d8a6c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 03:44:44 EDT Subject: Tranquility postings To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Ezzm@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi I am MO I did not post the stuff about tranquility, i simply let another individual use my mail to post about what i think is going to be a bomb assed party. As far as location goes: i have no clue. Private land: who knows? Profit margins: I know for a fact that money is not being made. Will these parties be good? yes. da soopa (not a promoter . . .yet) smak MO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 08:39:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12044 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 08:39:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 12035 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 08:39:11 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 08:39:11 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca43-89.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.89]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00553; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371C3C3D.14B160E5@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:35:10 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Naomi Thompson CC: "'nngo@velos.com'" , FReShKiD7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, BBoiBreks@aol.com Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just got to say that the only good raver is a dead one. There is nothing honorable about being ugly, sweaty, and wearing pants that cover your shoes, and sucking on a pacifier when you are like 16 years old. You ravers make me sick. I think you should be locked up. =Paul*E*Wog Naomi Thompson wrote: > > Damn kids!! Look it up in the dictionary!! > > A strumpet is a *nicer* way of saying WHORE > > I hope you're happy!! LOL just kidding > > Naomi > > --don't ask how I knew that! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 08:39:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12694 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 08:39:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 12685 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 08:39:34 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 08:39:34 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca43-89.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.89]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02213; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371C3D25.44DF5CC1@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:39:01 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FReShKiD7@aol.com CC: NThompson@pgmusa.com, BBoiBreks@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: The many different types of ravers References: <4168d676.244d0a22@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Strumpet!!! Don't talk about Kerrie like that! She may sleep with the whole rave scene, but she only likes the girls. She just fucks the guys for the popularity! =Paul*E*Wog FReShKiD7@aol.com wrote: > > ARGH YOU RELEASED THE TRUTH BEHIND STRUMPET !! it was suppose to be a SECRET > !! lol no one knows what im talking about when i say strumpet and thats > exactly why i say it ! cuzz No one knows except me and friends ! well close > friends who know me well... LoL isss ok > > David... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 08:41:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13980 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 08:41:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 13705 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 08:41:51 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 08:41:51 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca43-89.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.89]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03232; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371C3DAE.BDA3FC4D@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:41:19 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carly Bourne CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org, AValverde@northpointcom.com, Wheresplur@aol.com Subject: Re: Disturbing experience at Harmony References: <3.0.6.32.19990419155700.007ff7f0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PLUR is a piece of shit. Thank you... i try... =Paul*E*Wog Carly Bourne wrote: > > Including the word "PLUR" in an email and feigning to care about fellow > ravers does not give anybody the right to judge and disrespect a person > he/she doesn't know or understand. Its seems PLUR no longer has any meaning > or relevance... especially since the only people preaching "PLUR" are > those who are judging, categorizing, and being publicly disprespectful. > Car accident or not-- who are we to decide whether or not this girl was > being uncaring and disrespectful to her friends? I'm honestly more > disapointed by the attitude towards this girl than this girl's attitude > towards her friends. > There is enough hypocrisy to deal with in the world... let's try not to > contribute to the problem. Preaching PLUR does not a person automatically > "good" or right. We have to set examples through our actions. > > A cliche response to a cliche motto: > > Practice what you preach. > > Love and respect, > Carly > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 > BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 08:43:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15625 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 08:43:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 15613 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 08:43:50 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 08:43:50 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca43-89.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.89]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04138; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371C3E27.CE9979E6@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:43:19 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rafie CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions References: <199904192324.QAA17347@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk David cooks food for me at his house, so he is my friend and if you are saying mean things about him i will need to shove a 13" glow stick up your ass. But then again... i think you like it when david does it to you better rafie. Ooops my bad. =PauL*E*Wog Rafie wrote: > > I could throw up, that's would I could do about it. > Ha ha, David's gonna get trenchmouth. And hafta take out that big ugly > piece of metal that's stuck in his face. > > BTW anyone who cares, David aka Freshkid7 is downright out of control and > might I recommend NEVER sleeping in the same room with him. He makes all > these weird noises and things, and no one can get to sleep. And then he > wakes up at like 9 am and talks to himself. We had to lock him outside so > he could run around in the backyard til he was ready to come inside. And > Amanda found pee on the porch! EWWW!! > > Rafie > > On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:46:37 -0700, > goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... > >You are just upset because i mooned you out the back window of amanda's > >car while driving to the thai restaurant after beat down sundayze and > >there was nothing you could do about it because you had to keep your > >eyes forward at all times! > > > >By the way... did you know that David was licking the spoons in the > >chinese restaurant we got take-out from. yeah... and he put the spoon > >back on the table in the same place setting too. > > > >Don't ask!!! > > > >How do topics start out as 5HTP and end up talking about what you do > >when you are drunk and high? > > > >=Paul*E*Wog > > > >Rafie wrote: > >> > >> Dude let's not EVEN talk about people's cheap dirty butts, ok? At least > >my > >> butt doesn't leave smudges on the window when I moon people. I would > >> suggest washing more frequently. I know its easy to get all dry and > >chafed > >> with all those showers in between jobs, so I suggest a light > moisturizing > >> lotion perhaps. That should keep it nice and soft. > >> > >> Rafie > >> > >> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:04:08 -0700, > >> goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... > >> >No Rafie!! I said 50 mg. You cheap butt slut! You intestine poker! Butt > >> >dart champion! Oh yeah... > >> >=Paul*E*Wog > >> > > >> >WOO1121@aol.com wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Uhhhh, you told me a few months ago that you take like 500 mg of > 5-HTP > >> >after > >> >> parties. Maybe you were just...LYING TO ME!!!!! > >> >> > >> >> Rafie > >> >> ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu > >> > > >> > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 08:55:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18224 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 08:55:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 18212 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 08:55:22 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 08:55:22 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca43-89.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.89]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA09196; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371C40D7.7C73CA6B@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:54:47 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: etraver@ix.netcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ..Mystre and Mars References: <371BD59B.5346@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes I agree with this cracked out hoochie bitch, Liz... Mars N Mr E are very skilled DJs, but cyber-bounce is too trendy to enjoy anymore. It was cool in 1997, but sorry... the days of the 24th & Mission Dance Studio parties have long been over. It's a new world now and i've been there... done that... all the records sound the same. I am not saying they spin bad records. I think they have excellent tastes, but i just have heard that same sound soooooo many times. And i would like to add how many times will F8 be at 2nd & Jackson?? 5 times!!!! Get a new location... puh-lease!! Yay mars and mr e!! I would like to add that in no way am i dissin on them as people. I know them to very good people and i have lots of admiration and respect for anyone who are successful business men. I would just like to say... love the music not the drugs and make sure you smoke lots of buds. Thank you =Paul*E*Wog Elizabeth Traver wrote: > > To continue on this note, I'm not trying to put down anyone but I > personally would never go to a party just to see mystre or mars spin. I > don't know how many countless number of times I've seen them on a flyer, > heard them being spoken of, or passed through a room in which one of > them or both was spinning and knew they were spinning not because I > could see them but because I've heard they're basic set so many damn > times probablly know all of they're damn reocrds by now- > > They have talent, just like most of the other djs out there- But I > personally don't find anything too special or spectacular about them. > They've been played out and it's time to move on. > I just had to speak my peace about the two finally and this seemed like > a perfect time - > > Peace > Elizabeth From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 09:02:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20904 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 09:02:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 20884 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 09:02:01 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?X4ZeZN+MAUKlO3mGMfzTRm8YWNrzrrZ2?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 09:02:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id CAA16053; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:01:58 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:01:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: bsp: phuncktion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Check the drum and bass in motion... Tuesday 4/20, at the Top, 424 Haight St, SF... Phunckateck presents | | |- |=\ |=\ | | /=\ /=: =/ | = /=\ /=\ |=/ | | \=/ | | \=: |\ \= | \=/ | | | with E-Sassin (SoundSphere Recordings, Phunckteck, LA) alongside residents Noel and Juju (Phunckateck, SF) bringing beats for the blunted. 10p-2a, 21+ 3$ 415.789.8000 x1147 www.sfdb.com it's our holiday today, seen. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 09:28:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27202 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 09:28:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 27188 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 09:27:58 -0000 Received: from mail11.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 09:27:58 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca43-89.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.89]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22458 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371C484E.6B51E215@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:26:38 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Rave Review #246 Crew: Harmony Event: The Springtime Flower Festival 1-5 Rating: 4 Location: 2nd & Jackson- This is the worst location I have ever been to. I think this place should be condemned and I am going to take action to see what I can do about that happening. Still, the location setup was AMAZINGLY well done. The rooms were set up with a science and tact that I have never seen before. The placing of the DJ booths was thought out very well. I love the fact that right in front to the DJ in the Main room there was cool air coming in from outside. That was wonderful. Visuals & Props: Spectacular- I think the lasers, black lights, props, etc. etc. were spectacular. I had no complaints on this one. Harmony has always had bright and creative ideas when it comes to this. The disco ball flowers were mesmorizing. Sound: Crystal Clear- Finally!!! A massive sound system that does not insult the DJ! There was BASS and I could feel it. The speakers were massive enough o drown out excessive whistle blowing. I could finally hear the DJs set! DJs: Oh Ma God- Christopher Lawrence!!!! Wooooo baby!!! That was a phatty phatty trance set that psychedelized my neurons. This guy always amazes me with his set. I am so glad I got to hear him spin. I had never heard Angel Alanis before and I loved his set also. It was hard and fast and it made me move my feet. Loved those backspins and that hard techno he threw down towards the end of the set was aurgasmic. The jungle was just how i like it. Dark and spooky. I am not sure which sets I heard because i did not stay in that room too long... very hot you know... but I loved all the waaaaaaarrrrrp waaaaaarppp waaaaaarrrrpppp that I heard from those rekkids. Ambient Downtempo was done beautifully as always and set me into a very realizing and chilling mood, which I enjoyed immensely. People: Yes- Wow... not too many ravers for once. I was amazed to find real people inside. Not fake little e-tarded kids. I had no problems with anyone. Although it was very cramped, but by 3 am it clear out quick. Thugs go home at 3 am, yanno! I saw people there I had not seen in ages!!! I also was able to see my friends which I was un-expected. I met a few new peeps too. Overalls Comments: Worth my $20 I was very very very happy with this party and harmoy did exceed my expectations. I think that the heat was terrible, but those huge industrial fans reminded me that they were aware of this factor and they took care of it as much as they could. I felt like there was huge turnaround in the scene. This event will be very memorable for me. Last Thoughts: The point to it all- A "RAVE" is suppose to create a spark in your being where everything for you changes and once again a positive flow of energy enters your life. Congratulations on sparking me, Harmony. Shouts: Maddddd luv to the harmony crew and thanks for the invitation I got from a few of you at Vallco Mall when you guys were looking at the easter bunny decorations after the mall had closed. :D From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 12:31:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23796 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 12:31:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 23788 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 12:31:27 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 12:31:27 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.226] (libya-226.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.226]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27091; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:30:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:44:50 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Tue) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... The less often you weatherproof your partner or friends, the more you will notice how super your life really is. ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 13:12:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6952 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 13:12:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 6919 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 13:12:47 -0000 Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.239) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 13:12:47 -0000 Received: from [130.212.201.37] (madmax-37.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.37]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA28387 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <371BD0EF.5C24@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:09:37 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Michael Standish Subject: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whatever. If you don't think it's a good deal, then don't go. You couldn't pay me $10 or even $50 to hear Mystere (or any other trance), but I ain't tripping if other folks wanna go. There's nothing new about charging $10 or more for raves on public land. Gateway at Third & Cargo a couple years ago, and Organic hella years ago, also at Third & Cargo, come to mind. What about old skool break-ins? Is it OK to charge for a space you're not paying for, if you had to break in? Sure $10 seems a bit steep, but considering that the people there will likely spend on average, $30 on drugs, what's the big deal? Sir Ulrich Knight of the Turntables From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 14:47:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12554 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 14:47:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 12420 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 14:47:53 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 14:47:53 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA12934 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:47:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wck-ca22-10.ix.netcom.com(207.92.174.138) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma012875; Tue Apr 20 09:46:53 1999 Message-ID: <371CA2C4.6CE5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:52:37 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR...SORRY!! NICO@[Fwd: Reviews :()] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *L* I was tired when I wrote this!!!...I love you niCo....and I really do appreciate how much you and Joey helped us out **MUAH!** > Harmony: Phucken Awesome( Special thanks to Niko and Joey)... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 15:13:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24874 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 15:13:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 24865 invoked by uid 233); 20 Apr 1999 15:13:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 15154 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 14:54:23 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd118.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.182) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 14:54:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 42843 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 14:53:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420145355.42840.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.197.44 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:53:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.197.44] From: "sHaWn ." To: chocolate976@hotmail.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, candygirl5384@hotmail.com Cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Blink 182 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:53:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Let's see, go to a punk show where everyone is hitting each other in the mosh pit, orrrr go to FREEDOM. I think I willl go with Freedom! > >You will never find a bigger Blink fan in the world. >I have grown up off of their melodic punk and they even played at my high school. >They will be in town with the warped tour on the fourth of July and I am there. >Are you? > >Junglist Mikey > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 15:14:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25638 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 15:14:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 25630 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 15:14:22 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 15:14:22 -0000 Received: from Lynsoooo@aol.com by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id vRXAa25166 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:13:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Lynsoooo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:12:58 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: Great American Gas Out - CHANGED! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: Lynsoooo@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Never buy gas from Exxon.......... Period! Those bastards not only saturated the coast of Alaska with oil they went in and destroyed it even more with high powered hot water....spraying the oil back into the water killing EVERTHING in thier path that survived the spill blah blah, today nothing is living on those beaches not even desperately needed micro organisms and if you dig down 2 inches there is STILL oil......... for miles upon miles. Its a shame. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 15:41:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8835 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 15:41:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 8822 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 15:41:00 -0000 Received: from wya-oe14.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.79) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 15:41:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 6206 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 15:41:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420154136.6205.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.184.96 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:41:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.184.96] From: "Justin Hale" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: (BSP) PLEASURE 420 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:41:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk COME ON DOWN FOR A SPECIAL 420 PLEASURE PARTY ORGANIC HOUSE PLAYAs MARK SILVA JUSTIN HALE STEVIAN UPSTAIRS @ THE AGENDA LOUNGE 399 FIRST STREET - SAN JOSE *FREE* BEFORE 11 $5 AFTER 21+ PLEASE >From: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com >Reply-To: BaSsb1AtCh@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: 4:20 eventz? >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:04:22 EDT > >Sooo...is there anything happening for 4:20 today? I remember last year there >was something in the Marin headlands....anyone know the deal? > >-=~*LaUrE@*~=- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 15:52:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13649 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 15:52:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 13637 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 15:52:11 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 15:52:11 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id IAA02708; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371CA0AB.FEF390E5@best.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:43:39 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercury / Sherry CC: Mandi Girl , Susan , Daryll , FengFire@aol.com, Trevor , Gerlando Piro , ceL , JASON BRANCH , Jonathan , Juju0322@aol.com, Dennis Valdivia , Kari Narasky , Ryan Tandy , "Comolli, Loic" , MissNexa@aol.com, Paul , Taylor , Vlad , Rick , Sherri , sHaWn , Skye , Srainbowie@aol.com, "Green, Yuri" , Serena , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ References: <199904200243.WAA23019@www10.web2010.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk damn that's dissed. perhaps you weren't at Harmony? maybe ya got lost and ended up in a dark cramped alley where a bunch of hobos were banging on garbage cans? all I saw at harmony were a bunch of happy dancing ravers who were having the time of their life! if you don't want to see people on drugs, don't go to raves and complain about it. you should know better by now. =) - jer Mercury / Sherry wrote: > > $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ > > all i have to say is WOW! they have really gone > down hill.... > > - money hungry and in our faces at the door > - dark, bitter vibe > - dark, sad, scary music > - NO AIR > - hardly anyone dancing > - i was hit-on more times that night than the night > before when we went to Club X in SF !!! > (my friends ass was even grabbed at the party) > - so many people on SO many drugs > (13 yr. old boy on E) > > ......however being the raver i am > > - i managed to get some SOBER vibe goin' with my girl > and we danced it up in a circle > - the visuals did kick ass in the main room > > _____________________sherry. mosley > _ _____ _____________designer . dj > / \ > | Y Y \____________T.415.406.3537 > |__|_| /ERCURY______mercury@liquidmercury.com > \/_____________http://www.liquidmercury.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 16:19:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3730 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 16:19:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 3569 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 16:19:38 -0000 Received: from law-f25.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.88) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 16:19:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 88631 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 16:19:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420161911.88630.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.44.173.148 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:19:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.44.173.148] From: "danny b" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Happy 4-20 !! Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:19:11 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thats all... be responsible and have fun for those of us stuck at school! mid-day happy thought courtesy of --decibel From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 16:46:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5602 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 16:46:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 5580 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 16:46:11 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 16:46:11 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com (3700) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAITa26761 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:45:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: <326e4e8a.244e092c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:45:32 EDT Subject: T R A N Q U I L I T Y To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: Ezzm@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this is anthony on mo's account, i run T R A N Q U I L I T Y....i would just like to explain the 10 dollar price a lot are bitching about. this is the first out door party i am throwing. a lot ov love and money is going in to this event. I want to throw these parties all ov the time, but if i am going to loose money on them i can't throw em. Take in to consideration paying Dj's, pay off your voice mail, flyers, free water and fruit for the people, sound, generator, decorations..........there is a lot ov shit that has to get payed for. 10 dollars isn't a lot to have the most spiritual escape on some beach with some ov the best music in the world. Look at other underground parties. Pyramids in the sky for example. One ov the best parties i've been to since the f-8 parties back in 96. It was 10 dollars, and i had no problem paying it. Look at the last MHZ party just last friday. 15 dollars 250 people...bomb ass party. If you really have a problem paying it, don't go. It's your loss. It's all about support. If you buy a ticket and enjoy the night, you are supporting me and the cause. Because that is what it is all about. I'm not banking on this event. If i actualy sell out then i will have a little money to bring all ov you guys an even better party. I'm not about the money.....it's all about the musc. . . . - - - ===((( a n t h o n y )))=== - - - . . . From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 16:51:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9028 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 16:51:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 9013 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 16:51:40 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 16:51:40 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-186.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.186]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00645 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990420152442.006a6500@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:24:42 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: [NRR] This email is closed... Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This email is closed for the Holiday. All Finger-Pointing, Flaming, Name-Dropping, Bitching, Judging And comments on Listers who have a Tendency to Disregard giving Respect to Others on the List By: A) Writitng Emails that could be sent privately B) Flaming others that could be sent privately C) Writing things that could be properly Labled and just not doing it because that person must think that everyone wants to read it... Will not be participated in by this email. This email will re-open on 4/21, for those of you who don't practice this religious holiday please enjoy the daytime sunshine and anything else you might come across today. Thank you for your help, Email of Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 16:53:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11542 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 16:53:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11476 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 16:53:44 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 16:53:44 -0000 Received: from godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.102.8]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA29256; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA10691; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu To: Wayne Radinsky cc: mcarey@triad.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties In-Reply-To: <19990420040007.71664.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Most likely it's because a promoter wants to make money, so he/she can bring you their next party, maybe even a FREE outdoor one. Some promoters even make their living off throwing parties, and how much money are they going to make off throwing an outdoor event? Remember, throwing parties is a business to some, although I hope they still do it for the love of the music and the scene (damn, would i love to find a job doing what i loved and making money!!) And during the summertime, we do usually have just as many outdoor parties as we do indoors. Take this past weekend for example: 3 outdoor daytime parties on saturday, and beatdown on sunday. Sunset are just the same: a wonderful, wonderful event put on almost every sunday, free to those who find it. I was never told a rule that an outdoor party HAD to be free, but I thought that was understood. EVERY outdoor event I've been to has been FREE, unless it's a 2 or 3 day campout, but that's different, because then the promoter actually has to pay to use the location. Some promoters still have to pay when they throw free outdoor events, but that comes out of pockjet, and like others said, they ask for donations, not demand them, because they do it out of love. It's funny that this whole topic has come up, because as I was driving to work today I heard a discussion on "Keeping it Real" and what that means. Of course their are many different interpretations - and Id sure like to hear Vlad's someday :) - but in the case of an outdoor event, keepin it real (to me) means not making hella dough off of a free space, dj's that probably aren't charging a lot, if nothing, and a bunch of poeple that don't know better. I also kind of expect a new promoter to absorb some costs on his/her/thier first party, until they have PROVEN to me that they can come with a good party, a good location, good decorations, a good atmosphere. I won't support poeple who show me that they care more about making money than providing a service to their paying public. If someone provides a "service" to paying customers, and those customers aren't (repeatedly) getting their moneys worth, then no one should support that person anymore. I don't understand why so many will keep going back to a person's parties when thier toher ones havemade them wait in lines for days, refused entrance to pre-sale ticket holders, run capacity way over it's limits and thus made conditions very unsafe, have charged too much for a party that cost them nothing to throw, put no effort into decorating or creating a unique, wonderful atmosphere, not had enough water available, or not had enough ventilation. If a promoter can successfully dick you over, why are you willing to go back? That's why everyone should expect a promter to PROVE to YOU that they can provide a great party, before you shell out your big bucks. Their are a lot of hidden rules in this scene I think, like being polite and respectful, but I think too many of us need a lesson on what these rules are again because I'm seeing less and less of these values that should be like instict by now. Remember, this is only my opinion, but I know that my opinion is shared by many who have been out there throwing these FREE outdoor parties, even night time ones. It's just common sense to me. Much love and have a beatiful tuesday morning! amber On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Wayne Radinsky wrote: > > > If outdoor raves are really so much easier and > cheaper, why are the vast majority of raves, even in the > summertime, thrown indoors? > > ---------- > >From: "MooK<><" > >To: "SFRaves" > >Subject: RE: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties > >Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:34:19 -0700 > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves- > owner@hyperreal.org]On > >> Behalf Of Ezzm@aol.com > >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 2:01 PM > >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: T R A N Q U I L I T Y.....out door trance parties > >> > >>$10 per ticket. > > > >I don't care who the DJ's are, charging $$ for an outdoor party is > wrong. > >Unless you are throwing it on private land, location costs are free > and most > >DJ's will spin outdoor parties for free. A Donations request policy > is the > >standard for outdoor parties. Besides if a Cop shows up to your > party and > >you've been collecting money then you get shut down but if it is a > free > >party then you MIGHT be allowed to continue. > > > >MooK<>< > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 17:10:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22729 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 17:10:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 22720 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 17:10:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 17:10:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 30264 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 17:09:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420170934.30263.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:09:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NRR] This email is closed... Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:09:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THANK YOU!!! i am getting soooo sick of hearing other people flames. it's just getting old. c'mon you guys. this is so childish! just give it a rest, huh?!?!?! love lia p.s. it's a beautiful day today, enjoy it. >From: Nuku >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: [NRR] This email is closed... >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:24:42 -0500 > > This email is closed for the Holiday. > All Finger-Pointing, Flaming, Name-Dropping, > Bitching, Judging And comments on Listers who have a > Tendency to Disregard giving Respect to Others on the List By: > A) Writitng Emails that could be sent privately > B) Flaming others that could be sent privately > C) Writing things that could be properly Labled and just not doing >it because that person must think that everyone wants to read it... > Will not be participated in by this email. > > This email will re-open on 4/21, for those of you who don't practice >this religious holiday please enjoy the daytime sunshine and anything else >you might come across today. > >Thank you for your help, >Email of Nuku > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 17:10:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23475 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 17:10:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 23339 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 17:10:15 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 17:10:15 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (14403) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dCERa09414; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:05:47 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:05:44 EDT Subject: Re: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, mercury@liquidmercury.com CC: candygirl5384@hotmail.com, crazygrl@ix.netcom.com, Daryll.D.Jacobson@is.shell.com, FengFire@aol.com, Fine19boy@aol.com, gpxl@pcgr.com, HiSKiD76@aol.com, jawthepixieman@hotmail.com, Jondabomb@aol.com, Juju0322@aol.com, kirden@hotmail.com, knarasky@gothambay.com, liquid@liquidmercury.com, LXC@crai.com, MissNexa@aol.com, MiZcheVus1@aol.com, OmenUNO@aol.com, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, rickf@airlink.com, sherbear_21@yahoo.com, skillz420@hotmail.com, Skyebaby@aol.com, Srainbowie@aol.com, YGreen@ea.com, samysmooth@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i do have to agree with the scary music ... around 1:30 in the chill room that shit was hella scary... please next time someone decides to throw a party with a downtempo/ambient/whatever room make people spin happy music hehe matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 17:13:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28432 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 17:13:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 28308 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 17:13:22 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 17:13:22 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (14403) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7GDPa15098; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:12:34 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <8c06f833.244e0f80@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:12:32 EDT Subject: Re: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom ...(my review) To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk was i at the same party? damn this place was hot and crowded i had no room to dance and spent most of my night in the chill room with the scary music with horrible sound... but on the bright side my girlfriend came with my and it was her 1st party and she had fun, i finally met ryan lol, and i knew a lot of people there... ive been to a whole 3 2nd and Jackson parties now and only one was cool... i think im done with that place matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 17:24:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7233 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 17:24:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 7222 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 17:24:12 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 17:24:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420172224.19047.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.244] by web4; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:22:24 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:22:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom To: Paul*E*Wog , SFRaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And If Paul's not bitching....it musta been a good party. =) jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Paul*E*Wog wrote: > > Rave Review #246 > Crew: Harmony > Event: The Springtime Flower Festival > > > 1-5 Rating: 4 > > Location: 2nd & Jackson- > This is the worst location I have ever been to. I think this place > should be condemned and I am going to take action to see what I can do > about that happening. Still, the location setup was AMAZINGLY well done. > The rooms were set up with a science and tact that I have never seen > before. The placing of the DJ booths was thought out very well. I love > the fact that right in front to the DJ in the Main room there was cool > air coming in from outside. That was wonderful. > > Visuals & Props: Spectacular- > I think the lasers, black lights, props, etc. etc. were spectacular. I > had no complaints on this one. Harmony has always had bright and > creative ideas when it comes to this. The disco ball flowers were > mesmorizing. > > Sound: Crystal Clear- > Finally!!! A massive sound system that does not insult the DJ! > There was BASS and I could feel it. The speakers were massive enough o > drown out excessive whistle blowing. I could finally hear the DJs set! > > DJs: Oh Ma God- > Christopher Lawrence!!!! Wooooo baby!!! That was a phatty phatty trance > set that psychedelized my neurons. This guy always amazes me with his > set. I am so glad I got to hear him spin. I had never heard Angel Alanis > before and I loved his set also. It was hard and fast and it made me > move my feet. Loved those backspins and that hard techno he threw down > towards the end of the set was aurgasmic. The jungle was just how i like > it. Dark and spooky. I am not sure which sets I heard because i did not > stay in that room too long... very hot you know... but I loved all the > waaaaaaarrrrrp waaaaaarppp waaaaaarrrrpppp that I heard from those > rekkids. Ambient Downtempo was done beautifully as always and set me > into a very realizing and chilling mood, which I enjoyed immensely. > > People: Yes- > Wow... not too many ravers for once. I was amazed to find real people > inside. Not fake little e-tarded kids. I had no problems with anyone. > Although it was very cramped, but by 3 am it clear out quick. Thugs go > home at 3 am, yanno! I saw people there I had not seen in ages!!! I also > was able to see my friends which I was un-expected. I met a few new > peeps too. > > Overalls Comments: Worth my $20 > I was very very very happy with this party and harmoy did exceed my > expectations. I think that the heat was terrible, but those huge > industrial fans reminded me that they were aware of this factor and they > took care of it as much as they could. I felt like there was huge > turnaround in the scene. This event will be very memorable for me. > > Last Thoughts: The point to it all- > A "RAVE" is suppose to create a spark in your being where everything > for you changes and once again a positive flow of energy enters your > life. Congratulations on sparking me, Harmony. > > Shouts: > Maddddd luv to the harmony crew and thanks for the invitation I got from > a few of you at Vallco Mall when you guys were looking at the easter > bunny decorations after the mall had closed. :D > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 17:34:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19140 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 17:34:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19097 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 17:34:33 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?Ov92sXraM5CK4jmSvblo9NneYJXSWVFz?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 17:34:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id KAA10345; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:34:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: AdidasXE7@aol.com cc: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom ...(my review) In-Reply-To: <8c06f833.244e0f80@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Now, I might not really know what's fun, but how do you expect to have a good time at a party when you "spent most of my night in the chill room with the scary music with horrible sound..." ????????????????? isn't that like saying, I went to the movies, but I just slammed my nuts in the part of the chair that folds up over and over again, and I thought the movie sucked? and if it was her first party and you chilled with her in the scary, dark chill room... "but on the bright side my girlfriend came with my and it was her 1st party and she had fun" then shouldn't you have had fun? I am so lost, did you basically go to the party to dance and show her around, or did you go to sink into the puddle of the I AM TRIPPING OUT SO HARD massive. I guess people rave for different reasons. 10-4, duh, max On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 AdidasXE7@aol.com wrote: > was i at the same party? damn this place was hot and crowded i had no room to > dance and spent most of my night in the chill room with the scary music with > horrible sound... but on the bright side my girlfriend came with my and it > was her 1st party and she had fun, i finally met ryan lol, and i knew a lot > of people there... ive been to a whole 3 2nd and Jackson parties now and only > one was cool... i think im done with that place > > matt > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 17:38:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24065 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 17:38:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 23883 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 17:38:19 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 17:38:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420173154.12177.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.244] by attach1; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:31:54 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:31:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ To: Mercury / Sherry Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm sorry you had such a bad time at Harmony, I guss you really havent been out much recently. Parties at Second & Jackson have been known recently to have a thuggish crowd. I've seen you at many a Home Base party, where that crowd is multiplied by 100 percent. I also do not think its fair that you can "bitch", be cvause thats what it seems like you are doing about Harmonies profit margin. The company you have been known to work for, Feel Good Entertainment, your web design, and DJ skills, and we won't even discuss there profit margin. I just dont think its fair that you can complain, about probably the best decorated big party you have been to in the last couple years. Harmony is a big production crew, Harmony does make money off there parties, however do they give us our money's worth, I think so! love n' 45 =)jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Mercury / Sherry wrote: > > $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ > > all i have to say is WOW! they have really gone > down hill.... > > - money hungry and in our faces at the door > - dark, bitter vibe > - dark, sad, scary music > - NO AIR > - hardly anyone dancing > - i was hit-on more times that night than the night > before when we went to Club X in SF !!! > (my friends ass was even grabbed at the party) > - so many people on SO many drugs > (13 yr. old boy on E) > > ......however being the raver i am > > - i managed to get some SOBER vibe goin' with my girl > and we danced it up in a circle > - the visuals did kick ass in the main room > > _____________________sherry. mosley > _ _____ _____________designer . dj > / \ > | Y Y \____________T.415.406.3537 > |__|_| /ERCURY______mercury@liquidmercury.com > \/_____________http://www.liquidmercury.com > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 17:42:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28240 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 17:42:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 28144 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 17:42:17 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 17:42:17 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.182]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-48930U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA390 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:50:36 -0700 Message-ID: <00dd01be8b54$fbf05d20$b60318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: Subject: how much money do the promoters actually make? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:41:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BE8B1A.4EC81AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BE8B1A.4EC81AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a curious thought......... ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BE8B1A.4EC81AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  Just a curious=20 thought.........
------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01BE8B1A.4EC81AA0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 17:52:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4453 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 17:52:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 4444 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 17:52:22 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 17:52:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420174556.15069.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.244] by attach1; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:45:56 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:45:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? To: Nick Ngo , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IMO: None of your bussiness, if they give you your money's worth. just my 2 cents =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Nick Ngo wrote: > > Just a curious thought......... >
  Just a curious thought.........
From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 17:58:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9482 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 17:58:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 9457 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 17:58:51 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 17:58:51 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.182]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-48930U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA234; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:07:13 -0700 Message-ID: <011d01be8b57$4e327da0$b60318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: , References: <19990420174556.15069.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:57:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dayamn can't you people be nice for once??? The only thing that seems to keep this listing going is all the flaming that flies around... Shit if you dont want me to know jes fucking say so nicely and I wont ask. Fucking etards retards. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeremy Bispo To: Nick Ngo ; Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:45 AM Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? > > IMO: None of your bussiness, if they give you your > money's worth. > > just my 2 cents > > =)jer > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > ---Nick Ngo wrote: > > > > Just a curious thought......... > > >
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> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:01:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12286 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:01:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 12253 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:00:58 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:00:58 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (572) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQEZa15098 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:00:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:00:14 EDT Subject: Fwd: how much money do the promoters actually make? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_f0bacf78.244e1aae_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_f0bacf78.244e1aae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_f0bacf78.244e1aae_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Anachra@aol.com From: Anachra@aol.com Full-name: Anachra Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:53:58 EDT Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com well if promoters are apparently supposed to go broke and absorb costs out of their pockets on their first bazillion parties...that is until some of you decide they've proven something or other to you...hell they probably never make enough money coz they're still payin that nonsense off.... (: spacey --part1_f0bacf78.244e1aae_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:08:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17010 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:08:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 16999 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:08:07 -0000 Received: from f257.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.148) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:08:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 86660 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 18:07:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420180716.86659.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.144 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:07:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.144] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Amsterdammit Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:07:16 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "Thanks,Miss Jessica, I saved all of the information I received about Amsterdam. I have only been once and could find nothing to do but drink espresso and visit beer gardens" ~ Needless to say, I am respectfully inclined as to having the compleat positive Amsterdam experience. going, going... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn P.S. Anyone have ideas about travel itineraries they might like to share with me? Thank you..................... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:10:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19608 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:10:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 19383 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:09:56 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:09:56 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-232.dsp.com [204.118.76.232]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA15895; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:09:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199904201809.LAA15895@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:05:17 -0700 To: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo), , From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? In-Reply-To: <011d01be8b57$4e327da0$b60318d1@ssimarkfmt> References: <19990420174556.15069.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mkay, What was nasty about the reply Jeremy sent? Chill the hell out and listen to what he said: "IMO" - his opinion. "It's none of your business" - this is not a judgement call, it is true. No one asks what you're paid, and you don't need to know what anyone else is paid. If you want to pursue this as a career, get a mentor and find out that way. "if they give you your money's worth." - well, did you have a good time? Great. If not, don't go again. Simple! Flameless! No namecalling necessary! Buh-bye! Jessica At 10:57 AM 4/20/99 -0700, Nick Ngo wrote: >Dayamn can't you people be nice for once??? The only thing that seems to >keep this listing going is all the flaming that flies around... Shit if you >dont want me to know jes fucking say so nicely and I wont ask. Fucking >etards retards. > > >Nick >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jeremy Bispo >To: Nick Ngo ; >Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:45 AM >Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? > > >> >> IMO: None of your bussiness, if they give you your >> money's worth. >> >> just my 2 cents >> >> =)jer >> >> === >> Jeremy B. Bispo >> Member Support Specialist >> Cybergold, Inc. >> 2921 Adeline >> Berkeley CA 94703 >> 510.845.5000 ext. 126 >> >> >> >> >> ---Nick Ngo wrote: >> > >> > Just a curious thought......... >> > >>
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>> >> >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:19:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 719 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:19:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 585 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:19:23 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:19:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420181257.20431.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.244] by attach1; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:12:57 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: Fwd: how much money do the promoters actually make? To: Anachra@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've thrown three sucessful rave events (Play Nice, Tricky, ASR/Harmony Reunion), and one that was broken up (Play Nice Too), and two that due to last minute location difficulties the events were called off (The Moon, Sessions). I've lost although none of your bussiness a grand total of $1,500, and I'm far from a wealthy man. I've yet to have given up on the scene, and do not believe a promoter should lose money on his events. Believe me I'm all about a promoter "getting what's his," but I also feel if a promoter does not give you your money's worth in an event you have every right to question there motives. This scene, yes its just a scene like everyone else's punk rock, ska, snowboarder, surfer, is a business just like any other, however at tthe base heart of our scene there are certain principals that everyone loves to quote; the P.L.U.R. That Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect is suppose to be given to everyone that means not ripping off the other guy who's just there to have fun. Concerning Anthony, you have every right to charge $10 for your party, but do not compare your self to those other crews ETA, 66mhz, or F-8. All of those events were indoors, those events cost money for the location. It's not cheap to throw a party, and if your not ready to lose your ass on an event, dont throw it! Cuz that means your heart cant truly be in it. I'm sure your party will be successful, because as one guy said he would pay $20 just to see Mystere, see when that happens why not judt throw a $20 house party, and hell, if ya pay him I'm sure Mystere will play. just my thoughts....damn I'm feeling opinionated this morning. =)jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Anachra@aol.com wrote: > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > > well if promoters are apparently supposed to go broke and absorb costs out of > their pockets on their first bazillion parties...that is until some of you > decide they've proven something or other to you...hell they probably never > make enough money coz they're still payin that nonsense off.... (: > > spacey > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:20:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1719 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:20:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 1710 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:20:54 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:20:54 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (325) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3VMHa09416; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:19:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:19:07 EDT Subject: Re: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, mercury@liquidmercury.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/20/99 10:39:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mercutio73@rocketmail.com writes: << The company you have been known to work for, Feel Good Entertainment, your web design, and DJ skills, and we won't even discuss there profit margin. Jermey my love. Why is it that you have to put Fge in the middle of someone elses oppinion of thier own experience? Because you think we can put up with it? I truly think that you should bite your lip sweety! I love what Greg does and I love Harmony parties! I think its a location issue. And by the way our profit margin is not as much as you last comment makes it out to be! Be careful!!! I just dont think its fair that you can complain, about probably the best decorated big party you have been to in the last couple years. Harmony is a big production crew, Harmony does make money off there parties, however do they give us our money's worth, I think so! >> You give harmony wonderful support Jeremey!!! =) Love, Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:21:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2430 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:21:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 2298 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:21:08 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:21:08 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-f3 (mmf24.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.94]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06707; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904201821.LAA06707@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: mercury@liquidmercury.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:21:15 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I guess it's admirable you have the chutzpah to post a negative review of Harmony, but I don't agree: >- money hungry and in our faces at the door They have to act like that at 2nd&Jackson if they don't want their party harassed by police/whoever because of breakins etc. >- dark, bitter vibe uh, what? >- dark, sad, scary music what? lay off the PCP >- NO AIR it's called a rave @ 2nd & Jackson, get ready for more >- hardly anyone dancing no. >- i was hit-on more times that night than the night > before when we went to Club X in SF !!! Ghetto&Jackson always attracts some amount of bootsiness >- i managed to get some SOBER vibe goin' with my girl > and we danced it up in a circle Circles can be coo but when the place is already crowded they worsen it, and less people dance because either they're all watching the circle or they don't have any room. Rafie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:26:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7423 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:25:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7396 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:25:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:25:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 31540 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 18:25:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420182551.31539.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.144 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:25:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.144] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:25:51 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think I have a mentor~ btw, his parties are all I am interested in... Now if I could find something feasibly non-profitable to do with my time (like save the planet from impending annihilation daily) I would probably complain about being bored alot (I'm typical) ~ LOL Oh, yeah save the planet with parties (cool, I have a piece of the expanding puzzel) goin, goin... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jessica Webster To: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo), ,< sfraves@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:05:17 -0700 Mkay, What was nasty about the reply Jeremy sent? Chill the hell out and listen to what he said: "IMO" - his opinion. "It's none of your business" - this is not a judgement call, it is true. No one asks what you're paid, and you don't need to know what anyone else is paid. If you want to pursue this as a career, get a mentor and find out that way. "if they give you your money's worth." - well, did you have a good time? Great. If not, don't go again. Simple! Flameless! No namecalling necessary! Buh-bye! Jessica At 10:57 AM 4/20/99 -0700, Nick Ngo wrote: Dayamn can't you people be nice for once??? The only thing that seems to keep this listing going is all the flaming that flies around... Shit if you dont want me to know jes fucking say so nicely and I wont ask. Fucking etards retards. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeremy Bispo To: Nick Ngo ; Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:45 AM Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? IMO: None of your bussiness, if they give you your money's worth. just my 2 cents =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Nick Ngo wrote: > Just a curious thought......... >
Just a curious thought.........
>>> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:27:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9765 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:27:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 9633 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:27:13 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:27:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420182047.22027.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.200.140] by attach1; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:20:47 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:20:47 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: Amsterdammit To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn wrote: > > > "Thanks,Miss Jessica, I saved all of the information I received about > Amsterdam. I have only been once and could find nothing to do but > drink espresso and visit beer gardens" ~ > Needless to say, I am respectfully inclined as to having the > compleat positive Amsterdam experience. Not sure what the context of this post, was, however I have a few suggestions. Food: Eat lots of french fries. They're cheap and filling. I love all the sauces they have too...like the curry. yum:) Museums: The Van Gogh and national museums are awesome. Beer: See, Dutch beer just doesn't cut it, IMO, but the Heinekin brewery is lots of fun and...umm...educational? haha Coffee: Well I've never drank much coffee there, but I seem to remember visiting a couple coffee houses. Easy Times is my favorite- kinda hardcore Rasta place with foosball tables and comfortable seats. At nightime the natty's arrive and start dancing. I've never had any trouble, but they installed a metal detector between my last 2 visits. Dancing: The Roxy was pretty big last time I was there. I hear the DnB scene has blown up. Etc: I hate the red-light district. -Alex From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:35:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16559 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:35:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 16452 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:35:33 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?HNwvAVNqgWy0LrzkU+bDkP5cKB3ld2bq?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:35:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id LAA22936; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:35:28 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:35:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, breaks@xmission.com Subject: breakdancing circles... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk As I said last weekend inside the room, I mean no disrespect to b-boys. I came into the drum&bass universe via hiphop, and if I had played less rugby and fallen off play structures and gotten less drunk and eaten less shit on my skateboard on the way home, I would still be out there doing floor moves so help me God and baby Jesus. BUT...when I am on the mic, and a b-boy circle opens up in the front and center of the dancefloor, you have about 3 minutes before I invite the regular dancing public to take back the prime dancing area, and move the b-boy circle to the back, or whatever. In the US, breaking is part of our mix. I just don't like the way it saps the momentum and energy of the rest of the people in the jungle room, as they stop and stare. It's interesting, when I was in Texas, it was like a pretty frequent occurence that one of us MC's would have to pop the b-boy bubble or push it away from the DJ stand, but as far as the Bay Area goes, last weekend was the first time I'd had to pipe up on the mic about it. Any of the rest of you have any feelings one way or another? Was I being a deee-ock? 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:35:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16547 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:35:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 16454 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:35:33 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:35:33 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-f3 (mmf24.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.94]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA24817; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904201835.LAA24817@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: goodvibe@geocities.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:35:33 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk David hasn't made me any food yet. Im kinda sketched cause he told me its a family tradition to spit in food you make for friends n family before you serve it to them. Rafie PS. Where do you get 13" glow sticks? I know you can get bigger too, cause you looked pretty loose from our view in the car On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:43:19 -0700, goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... >David cooks food for me at his house, so he is my friend and if you are >saying mean things about him i will need to shove a 13" glow stick up >your ass. But then again... i think you like it when david does it to >you better rafie. >Ooops my bad. >=PauL*E*Wog > >Rafie wrote: >> >> I could throw up, that's would I could do about it. >> Ha ha, David's gonna get trenchmouth. And hafta take out that big ugly >> piece of metal that's stuck in his face. >> >> BTW anyone who cares, David aka Freshkid7 is downright out of control and >> might I recommend NEVER sleeping in the same room with him. He makes all >> these weird noises and things, and no one can get to sleep. And then he >> wakes up at like 9 am and talks to himself. We had to lock him outside so >> he could run around in the backyard til he was ready to come inside. And >> Amanda found pee on the porch! EWWW!! >> >> Rafie >> >> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:46:37 -0700, >> goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... >> >You are just upset because i mooned you out the back window of amanda's >> >car while driving to the thai restaurant after beat down sundayze and >> >there was nothing you could do about it because you had to keep your >> >eyes forward at all times! >> > >> >By the way... did you know that David was licking the spoons in the >> >chinese restaurant we got take-out from. yeah... and he put the spoon >> >back on the table in the same place setting too. >> > >> >Don't ask!!! >> > >> >How do topics start out as 5HTP and end up talking about what you do >> >when you are drunk and high? >> > >> >=Paul*E*Wog >> > >> >Rafie wrote: >> >> >> >> Dude let's not EVEN talk about people's cheap dirty butts, ok? At >least >> >my >> >> butt doesn't leave smudges on the window when I moon people. I would >> >> suggest washing more frequently. I know its easy to get all dry and >> >chafed >> >> with all those showers in between jobs, so I suggest a light >> moisturizing >> >> lotion perhaps. That should keep it nice and soft. >> >> >> >> Rafie >> >> >> >> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:04:08 -0700, >> >> goodvibe@geocities.com wrote... >> >> >No Rafie!! I said 50 mg. You cheap butt slut! You intestine poker! >Butt >> >> >dart champion! Oh yeah... >> >> >=Paul*E*Wog >> >> > >> >> >WOO1121@aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Uhhhh, you told me a few months ago that you take like 500 mg of >> 5-HTP >> >> >after >> >> >> parties. Maybe you were just...LYING TO ME!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> Rafie >> >> >> ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:45:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25299 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:45:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 25273 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:45:41 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:45:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420184834.24617.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:48:34 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:48:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: +vs-=? wasRE: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... To: npm@netwiz.net, gherbst@home.com Cc: San FranDisco Ravers List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wasnt really talking about the whole song thingee, thats why I changed the title of the post, it was just some thoughts that I was having at the moment when I read Geoffs post... Im not a party pooper, i swear, im not im not im not!!! ;) Jessica --- "Niels P. Mayer" wrote: > > I don't know where and or what y'all are going off > on. I wanted the results > of my post to be a "top 10 list" of "epic cheeze > trance" with the genre > hereto defined as being songs like "The > Gamemaster"... > > Instead of going off, why don't you list some more > like it? Why, because > you're party poopers, that's why!! :-) > > -------------------- > > Note that classic epic trance songs (e.g. Airscape's > Pacific Melody) need > not apply. A true epic cheeze trance tune has that > extra bit of whimsy to > take it right over the edge, to the point where most > people would not be > able to endure the pretense before doubling up in > howls of laughter. > > The image a good "cheeze trance" inflicts upon my > mind is a techno version > of the Stonehenge scene in "This is Spinal Tap"... > or perhaps Jon Anderson's > Olias of Sunhillow album ... Good epic-cheeze-trance > is strongly reminiscent > of the poetic excesses of the prog rock era. > > I wish someone would post a Realaudio or MPEG of > "The Gamemaster" so people > could experience the molten velveeta jazuzzi that > I'm immersed into each > time i hear the song. "Envision the goddess spirit > within you... and you > have become.... the cheezemaster." > > Are the "lyrics" up on the net? I want to add it to > my rainbows and > unicorns collection! > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) > http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 > 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:48:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26933 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:48:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 26923 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:48:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO anlsf.com) (206.79.166.240) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:48:12 -0000 Received: from ntserver ([206.79.166.23]) by anlsf.com (Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) with SMTP id 88256759.00667C93; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:39:25 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990420113651.008045c0@mail.well.com> X-Sender: mod79@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:36:51 -0700 To: SCiEnCe From: deepbeep Subject: Re: Amsterdammit Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990420182047.22027.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk my advice: Get the hell outta Amsterdam as soon as you've had your fill of touristy crap, and head for Utrecht. It's a 30 minute train ride, and you'll find yourself in another one of Holland's 17th Century gems, with way more couleur locale, and many of the same... errr... amenities as the big A has... Be sure to check out Cafe Belgie for the most excellent collection of European beers. :::hugs::: d. At 11:20 AM 4/20/99 -0700, SCiEnCe wrote: > >---Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn >wrote: >> >> >> "Thanks,Miss Jessica, I saved all of the information I received >about >> Amsterdam. I have only been once and could find nothing to do but >> drink espresso and visit beer gardens" ~ >> Needless to say, I am respectfully inclined as to having the >> compleat positive Amsterdam experience. > >Not sure what the context of this post, was, however I have a few >suggestions. > >Food: Eat lots of french fries. They're cheap and filling. I love all >the sauces they have too...like the curry. yum:) > >Museums: The Van Gogh and national museums are awesome. > >Beer: See, Dutch beer just doesn't cut it, IMO, but the Heinekin >brewery is lots of fun and...umm...educational? haha > >Coffee: Well I've never drank much coffee there, but I seem to >remember visiting a couple coffee houses. Easy Times is my favorite- >kinda hardcore Rasta place with foosball tables and comfortable seats. >At nightime the natty's arrive and start dancing. I've never had any >trouble, but they installed a metal detector between my last 2 visits. > >Dancing: The Roxy was pretty big last time I was there. I hear the DnB >scene has blown up. > >Etc: I hate the red-light district. > >-Alex > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:50:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29043 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 29033 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:50:36 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:50:36 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-232.dsp.com [204.118.76.232]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA16819; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:50:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199904201850.LAA16819@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:46:11 -0700 To: SCiEnCe , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: Amsterdammit In-Reply-To: <19990420182047.22027.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hiya! Oops, that was part of a private conversation, ala I'm going, wanna come? sort of thing. I have all sorts of travel links on my leetle website, most of which are Amsterdam related. Sigh, Amsterdam. B and I are hoping to move there in a year or two, so hopefully you'll then have a pen pal with a couch in A'dam. I agree with you're recommendations - however: actually going to a cafe (vs. coffehouse) and having a cup of coffee in Amsterdam is one of the most civilized experiences I've ever had. A long draw of Turkish coffee, with piles of sugar (they are sugar crazed!), chocolates, and ginger cookies, and you're chillin' for like 2 hours! They look at you like you're nuts if you try and pay and leave before the sun has moved 20 degrees. Oh - and besides the groovy coffee houses, there's La Ciocolata, where you can buy hash candies and cakes. Also - you've got to check out Milkweg. It's kinda like 1015, but with a movie theater, cafe, and art gallery attached, on stilts in a canal. Yum. And Paradiso, which has super live shows, which is in a 16th C church. Anyone been to De Zotte? My favorite dive/restaurant. 15thC pub with amazing food, lovely wonderful hosts, and djs. Yum. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 18:54:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1693 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 18:54:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1535 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 18:53:55 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 18:53:55 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA27487 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA02466 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:51:50 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: Thoughts on promoters, $$, & outdoor parties Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:58:13 -0700 Message-ID: <003301be8b5f$be417f30$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk With the recent threads on how much promoters make and how much they should charge for the type of parties they are giving I figured I'd express a few thoughts. They may or may not make a whole olot of sense but oh well. Oh yeah, they are all IMHO's. 1. You have no right to expect someone to tell you how much they make (promoter or no), unless you asking how much they are going to charge you for a service they are offering. 2. It is pretty obvious to see whether a promoter took the money and ran or if they poured it into producing a better party. Although they are justified either way (unless they didn't pay people for services rendered), you have the right to not attend any of their parties in the future. 3. Traditionally outdoor parties thrown on public land have been free, because there is no location cost, there is no DJ cost (most DJ's in the scene won't charge for a free party, I won't), generators aren't too much, and sound systems tend to be cheaper for free parties. A common practice to recoup the few small costs is request donations (suggesting an amount to donate is not a bad idea). Note: If you throw a an outdoor party and charge for it, there is nothing to stop people from showing up anyway and not paying. If you try to send them away you risk having them go get the cops to have your party busted (and if your charging $$ you will get busted). 4. Indoor and outdoor parties are in two different leagues, you can NOT compare them when it comes to costs and effort to throw them. 5. A Suggestion to crews planning to throw outdoor parties: Choose your decorations wisely. If they draw attention to your party from the road then you increase your risk of getting busted. 6. If you are a new crew trying to through any party coming soon, please be very careful and try not to get your party busted as it makes throwing parties for the rest of us more difficult. And when you leave your location (especially outdoor ones) please clean up after yourself, so that the space can be used again. =) MooK<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:01:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9059 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:01:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 8874 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:01:05 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:01:05 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (14378) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dEMJa20195; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:00:03 EDT Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, breaks@xmission.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Reply-To: BlueWAK@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Any of the rest of you have any feelings one way or another? Was I being a deee-ock? No..you weren't.....I have to agree....it takes up too much space...not only for those who are trying to dance, but also for those trying to get through from one room to another...to the water bar..blah blah blah. I am guilty of stopping to watch and adding to the congestion... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:01:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10141 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:01:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 9918 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:01:36 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:01:36 -0000 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com (unclenoa@netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA74696 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:01:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from unclenoa@netcom.com) Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom11.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id MAA16916; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Reply-To: unclenoah Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... To: Max McCauley cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 'sup Mc Duh? anyway, i don't think you're being a dick for working for efficient crowd control. there's nothing worse than having the decks kicked by some aggro kid busting a windmill, or having the floor empty because people don't want to dance around someone doing a mad headspin. the thing that gets me the most about the "rave" breakers we see nowadays is that they really don't give a shit about the music. back in the 80's when breakdancing started up, folks busted moves in tempo with the music, and changed up their moves and styles along with the build and flow of the music. when i see breakers at raves, they're usually just out there busting moves with no real rhythm and certainly not following the music. it's more of a "look at me!" session than an interaction with the music (which IMHO is what dancing of any kind is really all about). i took a breakdancing class while at UC Davis (no, you're not going to see me busting moves at parties) and that was fun because there was a solid focus on rhythm and on the music (man-o-man there's nothing like listening to a solid hour of mixed Debbie Deb and other classics!). anyway, that's what i think. =) On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > > As I said last weekend inside the room, I mean no disrespect to b-boys. I > came into the drum&bass universe via hiphop, and if I had played less > rugby and fallen off play structures and gotten less drunk and eaten less > shit on my skateboard on the way home, I would still be out there doing > floor moves so help me God and baby Jesus. > > BUT...when I am on the mic, and a b-boy circle opens up in the front and > center of the dancefloor, you have about 3 minutes before I invite the > regular dancing public to take back the prime dancing area, and move the > b-boy circle to the back, or whatever. > > In the US, breaking is part of our mix. I just don't like the way it saps > the momentum and energy of the rest of the people in the jungle room, as > they stop and stare. > > It's interesting, when I was in Texas, it was like a pretty frequent > occurence that one of us MC's would have to pop the b-boy bubble or push > it away from the DJ stand, but as far as the Bay Area goes, last weekend > was the first time I'd had to pipe up on the mic about it. > > Any of the rest of you have any feelings one way or another? Was I being > a deee-ock? > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:05:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14909 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:05:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 14897 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:05:50 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:05:50 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA28138 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA03473 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:03:53 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: breakdancing circles... Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:10:17 -0700 Message-ID: <003401be8b61$6e056b10$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well see, I kinda like em. Cuz when I want to go from one room to another there is a large wide open with nobody to squeeze by, so I just walk accross and make sure not to bump into anybody ;-) =) MooK<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of BlueWAK@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 12:00 PM > To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu; sfraves@hyperreal.org; > sf-jungle@saturn5.com; breaks@xmission.com > Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... > > > Any of the rest of you have any feelings one way or another? Was I being > a deee-ock? > > No..you weren't.....I have to agree....it takes up too much > space...not only > for those who are trying to dance, but also for those trying to > get through > from one room to another...to the water bar..blah blah blah. I > am guilty of > stopping to watch and adding to the congestion... > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:08:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16962 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 16952 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:08:21 -0000 Received: from law-f124.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.187) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:08:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 51427 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 19:07:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420190750.51426.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.110.177.58 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:07:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.110.177.58] From: "Michelle Farrell" To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: nrr:paging *Tall Paul* Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:07:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm looking for Tall Paul. I have no idea if he is on the list. I interviewed him on video with Kajay, at Harmony's fifth year reunion. I have seen him here and there and miss him greatly! He is the one that is constantly dancing against the speakers. If anyone has any information on Tall Paul please reply, thank you. Sorry for the SPAM. Love Michelle From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:12:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19543 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:12:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 19532 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:12:41 -0000 Received: from stinger-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO stinger.excite.com) (198.3.99.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:12:41 -0000 Received: from mystic.excite.com ([199.172.152.98]) by stinger.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990420191212.GLYK15757.stinger@mystic.excite.com> for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:12:12 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Harmony was a blast for me! Message-Id: <924635531.21145.711@excite.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:12:11 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So Friday night i went dancing a bit at Consious Sessions, and woke up with my back out on Saturday.... could hardly walk... so i was a slacker at helping set up for Harmony... sitting was all I could do.... at about 7:30 or so, i said. hey, i think i'll go check how the line is doing outside... oh my god... five hours later.... wow! what a trip... to every single wonderful smiling person in the line .... thanks for making it actually *FUN* for me to write numbers on your hands! and for those of you who didn't introduce yourselves, yep, i was the one in the flower crown working that line... next time, say hi, ok?? since we were a bit past schedule for opening the doors, the line was long and happy! boomboxes.... candy kids.... the wonderful guy in the clown shoes handing out candy who after several hours patiently waiting didn't get in, and was a smiling and gracious guy anyway... the saddest moment was when we hit capacity and some of the ones we *really* thought would make it under our limit had to get turned away... that was heartbreaking. i have to say, sometimes i am really proud to be part of a scene of such wonderful people... and, to those who cut in line (therefore resulting in some of the patient people not getting in) .... and those who scammed the door in other ways... karma shall repay you for this one... and we'll all try to make sure you don't get away with it again! but... sherry... you posted that we were "in your faces at the door?" .... i didn't even SEE you Saturday! (wish i had! was ryan with you?) ... were you in the line??? are you just talking about security? i don't get it!! please explain what you mean! anyway, by the time i went back ins ide it was 12:30, the place was full-on going off! (again, sherry, not sure what you mean by "dark vibe") ... unfortunately, my energy was gone gone gone, and i spent very little time actually dancing ... but the place was beautiful, people seemed to be having a good time... i met lots of sfravers i hadn't met before -- even got sarah from tahoe to post!!! -- and was able to spend time talking to some of my favorite folks and sit while terry worked his magic visuals in the chill space -- i do apologize for not being able to introduce paul hayden to the curious ones on here who wonder what this kid who badmouths candy ravers is like... you probably noticed him in his furry pants and sesame street backpack (was that the one paul?) .... and maybe even saw him passed out on the floor wth his pants undone (as someone said... i missed it)... next time, i'll do a better job. it's worth it, i promise. but many thanks to you all, you looked beautiful, you had fun, it made it all worthwhile! much love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:13:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20368 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:13:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20351 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:13:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:13:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 32221 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 19:12:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420191233.32219.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:12:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: unclenoa@netcom.com, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:12:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Word!!! I agree with Noah on this one. Breakers at raves don't give a fuck what is being played or who is playing it. There are just there to show off. Case in point I was grooving to Elias Smith at the last megahertz party and this stupid girl takes it upon her self to take up half the dancing room by prancing around poping and breaking and stepped and bumped into me several times. Then she proceedes to strut her stuff right in front of me and anyone else that that she thought would be looking at her. Unfortunately I was not watching her "Moves" I was watching the DJ and I think she got the clue when I gave her this disgusted look I don't have a problem with Circle dancers or breakers but in the middle of the room of a crowded party is not the place for it. IMO Peaces, Macadio >From: unclenoah >Reply-To: unclenoah >To: Max McCauley >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT) > > >'sup Mc Duh? > >anyway, i don't think you're being a dick for working for efficient crowd >control. there's nothing worse than having the decks kicked by some >aggro kid busting a windmill, or having the floor empty because people >don't want to dance around someone doing a mad headspin. > >the thing that gets me the most about the "rave" breakers we see nowadays >is that they really don't give a shit about the music. back in the 80's >when breakdancing started up, folks busted moves in tempo with the music, >and changed up their moves and styles along with the build and flow of >the music. when i see breakers at raves, they're usually just out there >busting moves with no real rhythm and certainly not following the music. >it's more of a "look at me!" session than an interaction with the music >(which IMHO is what dancing of any kind is really all about). > >i took a breakdancing class while at UC Davis (no, you're not going to >see me busting moves at parties) and that was fun because there was a >solid focus on rhythm and on the music (man-o-man there's nothing like >listening to a solid hour of mixed Debbie Deb and other classics!). > >anyway, that's what i think. =) > > >On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > >> >> As I said last weekend inside the room, I mean no disrespect to b- boys. I >> came into the drum&bass universe via hiphop, and if I had played less >> rugby and fallen off play structures and gotten less drunk and eaten less >> shit on my skateboard on the way home, I would still be out there doing >> floor moves so help me God and baby Jesus. >> >> BUT...when I am on the mic, and a b-boy circle opens up in the front and >> center of the dancefloor, you have about 3 minutes before I invite the >> regular dancing public to take back the prime dancing area, and move the >> b-boy circle to the back, or whatever. >> >> In the US, breaking is part of our mix. I just don't like the way it saps >> the momentum and energy of the rest of the people in the jungle room, as >> they stop and stare. >> >> It's interesting, when I was in Texas, it was like a pretty frequent >> occurence that one of us MC's would have to pop the b-boy bubble or push >> it away from the DJ stand, but as far as the Bay Area goes, last weekend >> was the first time I'd had to pipe up on the mic about it. >> >> Any of the rest of you have any feelings one way or another? Was I being >> a deee-ock? >> >> 10-4, >> duh, >> max >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- >"Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of >your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:24:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29584 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:24:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 29573 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:24:15 -0000 Received: from pop03.globecomm.net (206.253.130.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:24:15 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop03.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA16808; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990420120547.036c6b40@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:23:42 -0700 To: Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, breaks@xmission.com From: binary fineboy Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No you werent being a dick ... circles piss me off. I mean ... there I am at tickle right infont of the DJ booth watching the ever so adorable DJ D finish up her set and some guy comes up and starts tellin people to move cuz he wants to make a circle right infront of the DJ for thomas trouble's set. Of course no one moved ... then he busts out with "But we're thomas trouble's crew" and I was all ... "hmm .. no you are morons" so anyways they made there annoying little circle a few feet back from the DJ booth but still ... I think thats really inconsiderate because I think most people go to raves to dance, not to get pushed out of the way so other people can have ten feet of room around them to dance. Haha and the funny thing about most circles that I see is that most of the dancers f*cking suck. Shit, I'd be embarrased if I danced like that and I had a circle of people watcing me. I guess the way I see it is that circles are pretty damn inconsiderate. I have no problems if someone wants to take 8 feet of space to themselves off in a corner somewhere ... or way in the back, but I mean this usually isnt the case, its usually right in the middle of the action ... parties are crowded enough as it is and I dont see where anyone gets off thinking they deserve a nice big space to dance in cuz they're special or sumthin. Hell, I would have loved to have a nice wide open space to dance in at F8 or Tickle, but when you have a crowded party thats just not possible. And the problem just gets amplified when all of a sudden you get cramped and shoved even more because some ghetto homeboy and his crew think its circle time. I really wish I was a DJ so I could just stop the music and tell these people to play nice and take up just as much space as everyone else. MAX, you get HUGE props for saying something ... its not out of line at all ... now I just wish a DJ would do something about those damn whistles... ryan At 11:35 AM 4/20/99 , Max McCauley wrote: > >As I said last weekend inside the room, I mean no disrespect to b-boys. I >came into the drum&bass universe via hiphop, and if I had played less >rugby and fallen off play structures and gotten less drunk and eaten less >shit on my skateboard on the way home, I would still be out there doing >floor moves so help me God and baby Jesus. > >BUT...when I am on the mic, and a b-boy circle opens up in the front and >center of the dancefloor, you have about 3 minutes before I invite the >regular dancing public to take back the prime dancing area, and move the >b-boy circle to the back, or whatever. > >In the US, breaking is part of our mix. I just don't like the way it saps >the momentum and energy of the rest of the people in the jungle room, as >they stop and stare. > >It's interesting, when I was in Texas, it was like a pretty frequent >occurence that one of us MC's would have to pop the b-boy bubble or push >it away from the DJ stand, but as far as the Bay Area goes, last weekend >was the first time I'd had to pipe up on the mic about it. > >Any of the rest of you have any feelings one way or another? Was I being >a deee-ock? > >10-4, >duh, >max > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:33:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7672 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:33:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 7432 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:33:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ConsumerReview) (206.79.71.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:33:39 -0000 Received: by ConsumerReview from localhost (router,SLMail V3.2); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:31:57 -0700 Received: from gerlandos [216.100.228.163] by ConsumerReview [206.79.71.38] (SLmail 3.2.3108) with SMTP id 2610A1B9F6E111D2830800A0C9CFADA2 for plus 3 more; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:31:57 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Gerlando Piro" To: "'Macadio G.'" , , Cc: Subject: RE: breakdancing circles... Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:35:02 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be8b64$e3408740$7e21e9d1@gerlandos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990420191233.32219.qmail@hotmail.com> X-SLUIDL: 2056B03F-F6DD11D2-830800A0-C9CFADA2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Seriously. At the last Gathering there was a pretty large circle in between the two smaller rooms ( one playing techno the other playing dub ). Sound was bleeding in from all three sound systems there, but it didn't seem to matter to the B-Boys. They we're well lit and being watched. -------------------------------- Gerlando -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of Macadio G. Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 12:13 PM To: unclenoa@netcom.com; maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... Word!!! I agree with Noah on this one. Breakers at raves don't give a fuck what is being played or who is playing it. There are just there to show off. Case in point I was grooving to Elias Smith at the last megahertz party and this stupid girl takes it upon her self to take up half the dancing room by prancing around poping and breaking and stepped and bumped into me several times. Then she proceedes to strut her stuff right in front of me and anyone else that that she thought would be looking at her. Unfortunately I was not watching her "Moves" I was watching the DJ and I think she got the clue when I gave her this disgusted look I don't have a problem with Circle dancers or breakers but in the middle of the room of a crowded party is not the place for it. IMO Peaces, Macadio >From: unclenoah >Reply-To: unclenoah >To: Max McCauley >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT) > > >'sup Mc Duh? > >anyway, i don't think you're being a dick for working for efficient crowd >control. there's nothing worse than having the decks kicked by some >aggro kid busting a windmill, or having the floor empty because people >don't want to dance around someone doing a mad headspin. > >the thing that gets me the most about the "rave" breakers we see nowadays >is that they really don't give a shit about the music. back in the 80's >when breakdancing started up, folks busted moves in tempo with the music, >and changed up their moves and styles along with the build and flow of >the music. when i see breakers at raves, they're usually just out there >busting moves with no real rhythm and certainly not following the music. >it's more of a "look at me!" session than an interaction with the music >(which IMHO is what dancing of any kind is really all about). > >i took a breakdancing class while at UC Davis (no, you're not going to >see me busting moves at parties) and that was fun because there was a >solid focus on rhythm and on the music (man-o-man there's nothing like >listening to a solid hour of mixed Debbie Deb and other classics!). > >anyway, that's what i think. =) > > >On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > >> >> As I said last weekend inside the room, I mean no disrespect to b- boys. I >> came into the drum&bass universe via hiphop, and if I had played less >> rugby and fallen off play structures and gotten less drunk and eaten less >> shit on my skateboard on the way home, I would still be out there doing >> floor moves so help me God and baby Jesus. >> >> BUT...when I am on the mic, and a b-boy circle opens up in the front and >> center of the dancefloor, you have about 3 minutes before I invite the >> regular dancing public to take back the prime dancing area, and move the >> b-boy circle to the back, or whatever. >> >> In the US, breaking is part of our mix. I just don't like the way it saps >> the momentum and energy of the rest of the people in the jungle room, as >> they stop and stare. >> >> It's interesting, when I was in Texas, it was like a pretty frequent >> occurence that one of us MC's would have to pop the b-boy bubble or push >> it away from the DJ stand, but as far as the Bay Area goes, last weekend >> was the first time I'd had to pipe up on the mic about it. >> >> Any of the rest of you have any feelings one way or another? Was I being >> a deee-ock? >> >> 10-4, >> duh, >> max >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- >"Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of >your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:36:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9448 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:36:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 9397 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:36:07 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:36:07 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com (8054) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLXJa09145 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:35:26 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:35:25 EDT Subject: HarMony was WACK~! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So my friends and I went. We were there for no more than 45 mins. There were so many peeps who didnt belong there, that they did. get my drift? The vibe was wack........sorry kids....but that was not a good party. the guy at the door when iw as leaving was like " OH LEAVING SO SOON?" one of my friends said, "YEAH WERE GOIN TO GET A ROOM IN SAC". I was bein all honest that nite and said " THIS PARTY SUX~!": I am the honest type. ToO MaNy GHeTTo H0es and wanna be ganstas. It was funny. I saw alot of peeps leave early . maybe next time the party will be betta Peace* Linz the PRinceSS From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 19:45:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18919 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 19:45:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 18697 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 19:45:48 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 19:45:48 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (8036) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLUTa06727 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:44:44 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:44:34 EDT Subject: Introductions To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: WizardCCCA@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi. My name is Liz, and while i introduced myself like 2 months ago, and i have already posted twice... I thought I would just refresh peeps memories :-). i am originally from Cupertino but am right now in Colorado going to school. I am 20 years old and just became a party kid in January. I am a lover of trance and jungle, a follower of plur, and a friend to all who befriend me. If you ever see me at a party, I am the one givin everyone lollipops and hugs to all. And while drugs are a part of the scene.... and I don't care if anyone else does em... I have recently pledged sobriety after having a really bad experience this past Saturday. :-) I hope to fit into the sfraves circle, but so far I haven't gotten too many friendly hellos. But whatever's clever... I love everyone and hope sooner or later you can all come to accept me into the list. I hope everyone had a beautiful day and mad hugz to everyone on the list! PLUR, Liz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 20:01:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4457 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 20:01:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 4431 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 20:01:24 -0000 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.125) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 20:01:24 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id NAA13780; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:01:22 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: HarMony was WACK~! To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 TriXXXXe4@aol.com wrote: > ToO MaNy GHeTTo H0es and wanna be ganstas. Ghetto H0es? deeyyyam! why do i always miss the good stuff! :D -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 20:15:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13683 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 20:15:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 13673 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 20:15:29 -0000 Received: from web107.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 20:15:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420201528.22328.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.185.131.147] by web107.yahoomail.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:15:28 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:15:28 -0700 (PDT) From: chrisP Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions To: Rafie Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Rafie wrote: > David hasn't made me any food yet. Im kinda sketched cause he told me its a > family tradition to spit in food you make for friends n family before you > serve it to them. [Snip] Why did we all have to read this? Everyone, this is a perfect example of a message that did not need to go to the list. Please respect ALL the list members and keep personal messages between the persons who give a sh*t. Things posted to the list should be relevant to the list, it's really not a hard concept to grasp. What's the big deal you ask? Well, while some of us (like me) will simply filter your messages into the trash, others may not have that capability, and eventually leave. Every time someone leaves due to the kind of cyber-tagging above, the whole list community is dimminished. Think of all the cool posts by people like Leslie or AndyW that you don't get to read when you drive people away with you inane chatter. Get it? chrisp From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 20:24:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20989 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 20:24:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 20975 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 20:24:39 -0000 Received: from mail.fiberia.com (208.137.248.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 20:24:39 -0000 Received: from gtsl1004.us1.ibm.net (mail.fiberia.com [208.137.248.15]) by mail.fiberia.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA14471 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904202128.OAA14471@mail.fiberia.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: joshg@fiberia.com Subject: Harmony Date: Tue, 20 Apr 99 14:28:25 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just got back into the scene. Harmony being my first rave in over two years. It amazing how different the scene's are in different parts of the country. Anyway I was reading the letter about what happend witht the people in the car accedent. and I also read alot of the responses. I thought that I left the back stabbing people back on the other coast. I thought that it was very cool that most people in the scene out here belived in "PLUR" and it is amazing to think that somone could still consider this person who decied to go a party instead of being beside people they considered friends in there time of need. I think I would rather a person not be my friend then only be my friend in good times. Well I do hope that the people in the accident are OK. And if they are not I hope that the other person can live with the fact that they were not there for when their friend need them most. Please take care of one another T *********************************************************** * Get your FREE e-mail and FREE web site at FIBERIA * * http://www.fiberia.com * *********************************************************** From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 20:31:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26160 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 20:31:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 26054 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 20:30:56 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 20:30:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA17636; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: Mercury / Sherry cc: Mandi Girl , Susan , Daryll , FengFire@aol.com, Trevor , Gerlando Piro , ceL , JASON BRANCH , Jonathan , Juju0322@aol.com, Dennis Valdivia , Kari Narasky , Ryan Tandy , "Comolli, Loic" , MissNexa@aol.com, Paul , Taylor , Vlad , Rick , Sherri , sHaWn , Skye , Srainbowie@aol.com, "Green, Yuri" , Serena , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ In-Reply-To: <199904200243.WAA23019@www10.web2010.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Mercury / Sherry wrote: -&e->$ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ Mmm. Namecalling. Very mature... I currently lack the will to return the favor. Sorry you had a bad time. I had things go wrong at that party too (didn't get to play live cause of sound problems). Rather than diving into pettiness, perhaps we could focus our discussion to what we saw and experienced, and what we could do to make the party better rather than accusing Harmony of being in it for the money like it seems you did with your witty wordplay? (I'll speak for myself as a long standing member of the Harmony crew, I am not... that's what my day job is for!) Why do I find this somewhat ironic? AndyW p.s. Nice work on the FGE/globalparty.com website, but I'd recommend making a jpg of their next flyer and a simple HTML title page available to people who don't have Flash. :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 20:39:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4726 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 20:39:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 4705 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 20:39:50 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 20:39:50 -0000 Received: from [209.157.114.62] (dynamic62.pm13.san-jose.best.com [209.157.114.62]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id NAA22029 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:39:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: madmacks@shell4.ba.best.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:36:16 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jonathan Mack Subject: Miss 'E' confirmed for 4.24 Party Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all interested sfravers, We just keep adding things to our show! We have just confirmed Miss 'E' for our pre production party. Making our DJ lineup even more spectacular: Justin Hale, Harry Who, Chris Jackson, Miguel, Lichen, Brian Gaul and now Miss 'E' as well. Visuals by Stefan G (Culture Labs) and A Waking Dream... Due to the nature of our Ganja Girls, we must make this an 18 or older venue. There will be a fully stocked bar as well as an assortment of goodies and aesthetics... Tickets are now on sale at Solid Grooves and Paramount Imports in San Jose, and Golden Triangle and Housewares in the city. Happy 4.20 to everyone! Sincerely, Jonathan Mack From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 21:01:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23711 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 21:01:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 23701 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 21:01:02 -0000 Received: from web703.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 21:01:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420210250.11762.rocketmail@web703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.145] by web703.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:02:50 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:02:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: Mini-Reviews: Harmonious Weekend!! =) To: sfr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello beautiful people! Now that the weather has warmed up and the outdoor parties are blossoming like wildflowers, I hope everyone is looking forward to a rrradically supa-nice summer! Think of me when I'm gone... 1. Friday - 66MHz Yay! What a cool location! Jules from the StarGaze crew greeted us upstairs as I signed for my e-tix (very very convenient and I recommend the SFRecords e-tix distribution channel for *all* party promoters who are thinking of doing presale-only parties!) and we explored the space... kewl! Upstairs: Lots of little rooms and chill-out hideaways. Downstairs: excellent ambience in the ambient room! And, free water and fresh fruit!!! Decorations: excellent! Visuals: trippily cool! Main room: tres cool, but very very warm. Oh well, I guess that's what we should expect if we don't want any sound leakage! Toons: Sure, MHz eats candE ravers for breakfast, but I swear I heard some trance scattered among the techno beats! Props to Aspect, Radley, Elias, and Dyloot for keeping those techno beats flowin'... Special props to Skye and Mook in the chill room for givin' me the trippy-chilly-willies and a supa-sized-sober-high with their 100% underground tunage. Special hellos to "Girly" Erika, da supa smak Mo, gEoff ;) & Tony & Stillwind & the whole StarGaze family (come to Dive-Urgency!!!!!), Mook, Steph, and the ever-huggable Teen Queen, et al. Downside: someone stole my watch and my Hansen's Energy Beverage from my bag! I heard a lot of bags got stolen, which is a bummer, and I saw quite a few people carrying several bags around, but I didn't think anything of it... oh well, at least they left my bag... hmmm... anyway, it gave me the perfect excuse to buy a new watch!!! 2. Saturday - Harmonia Verna Flora Festiva Missed Epiphany (sorry Teen Queen!) because I was shopping for a new watch and couldn't hook up with my ride... But after 3 hours of planes trains & automobiles (well, trains) I finally made it into Oakland with a few minutes to scarf down some Yoshi's and candE up for Harmony! In line, met the redoubtable Leslie.Ayres *finally* after all this time! And ran into old friends from the Chemistry kits down in SJ. Saw wigless Trice run in and out of the space, doubtless putting final touches on every last decoration... me and my fairy godparents (Joaqman and magiclovefairy) were the first of the guests to grace the space, so we had plenty of opportunity to soak in and appreciate the work the crew had put into charming the location! WOW!!! Thank you, beautiful Harmony crew, for the best visuals/decorations I've ever seen in 2nd/jax!!! The puzzle pieces seemed to come together as the night grew long, and the beautiful banners and lasers and yes even the ultra funkula disco ball were just perfect! Terry and the whole viberation crew somehow managed to thrill the eyes of the entire 1500 capacity crowd with visuals, visuals everywhere! And that laser in the main room was pure green and red icing on the party! Toons: MC Duh? rawks!!! Hak, Science, re:, Protolab and the rest of the Jungle/dnb crew keep the beats hot and heavy... Daisy room was by far my favorite room. Tulip room was plenty nice at the start and the end of the night, especially along the left wall where the only source of air appeared to circulate. Dutch, Greg and Li tekked the house, but Christopher and Angel blew it off the ground Wizard of Oz style! Yay! I have to confess that I spent most of the night in the chill room, enjoying the cooler temperature and tempo, with the perfect musical accompaniment of AndyW, j-bot, and b))merang. Thanks, Daffodil DJs, especially for the trip-hop beats in the wee hours. I enjoyed many enlightening moments conversing and chilling with my family. Yes, the space is still super-hot, but it wasn't as super-crowded as previous parties. Big ups and props to the Harmony crew for making my last massive in the Bay area one to remember and cherish. Big hellos to everyone I met and re-met, names too numerous to list here! But special thank you's to my buds Psifire & Kevin, Ben, Chrissy, Curtis and friends; and I love you's to Jonas and Daynah *hugz*. 3. Coming soon... Packing, packing, packing,... but I'll be trance-fixed Saturday night at Dive-Urgency in Sunnyvale, and later that night at my extra-special "farewell" trance after party in SJ. Many of my fave trance DJ's are playing extra special sets for the occasion, and I hope those of you who have met me and got to know me will be there to share my "last hurrah" this Saturday. Keep it real, but keep it upbeat! If it's not fun, then why do it? =) === Alex the Happy Raver don't love until you love yourself don't give unless it's free... =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 21:10:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1384 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 21:10:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 1259 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 21:10:17 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 21:10:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with ESMTP id OAA02998; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: "MooK<><" cc: Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Subject: RE: breakdancing circles... In-Reply-To: <003401be8b61$6e056b10$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The only reason why I might like them, too.:))) On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, MooK<>< wrote: > Well see, I kinda like em. Cuz when I want to go from one room to another > there is a large wide open with nobody to squeeze by, so I just walk accross > and make sure not to bump into anybody ;-) > > =) > MooK<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 22:00:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29917 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 22:00:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29908 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 22:00:35 -0000 Received: from web130.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.199) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 22:00:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420220035.28719.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web130.yahoomail.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:00:35 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:00:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Introductions To: WizardCCCA@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whaaa? I thought I was friendly enough. Anyhoo, I'm glad you came to the "light side of the force" ;) Sorry to hear about the bad experience though. I hope you weren't attacked by some of those mad desert geese. (I read a story from the alt.rave NG. I think it was in Colorado, but maybe Arizona) Well, I hope to see ya sometime this summer. You're coming out, right? Hopefully before August or I'll be on my way to San Diego. :D *HUGZ & HELLA MAD FRIENDLY HELLOS* pat --- WizardCCCA@aol.com wrote: <> > I have recently pledged > sobriety after having a really > bad experience this past Saturday. :-) > > I hope to fit into the sfraves circle, but so far I > haven't gotten too many > friendly hellos. But whatever's clever... I love > everyone and hope sooner or > later you can all come to accept me into the list. I > hope everyone had a > beautiful day and mad hugz to everyone on the list! > > PLUR, > Liz > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 22:16:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12257 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 22:16:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12078 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 22:16:17 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 22:16:17 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-194-75.oak.jps.net [209.239.194.75]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20426; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006e01be8b84$2a2982a0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: , References: Subject: Re: Introductions Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:18:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi Liz (and everybody else)!, Its been a long time since I first subscribed, so here is a small intro about me. My name is Jezreel, or Jay for short. I am a 21 year old male who has been "in" the scene for a little over two years. Total lover of trance & trancey breaks. I spin (not often enough) progressive trance, and am in the process of creating a CD for distribution. I try and go to parties whenever possible, but have recently been attending Nikita more often than naught. Also, I would love to meet more people from this list, as I haven't found many people locally to party with. Love & Music, Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 12:44 PM Subject: Introductions > Hi. > > My name is Liz, and while i introduced myself like 2 months ago, and i have > already posted twice... I thought I would just refresh peeps memories :-). > > i am originally from Cupertino but am right now in Colorado going to school. > I am 20 years old and just became a party kid in January. I am a lover of > trance and jungle, a follower of plur, and a friend to all who befriend me. > If you ever see me at a party, I am the one givin everyone lollipops and hugs > to all. And while drugs are a part of the scene.... and I don't care if > anyone else does em... I have recently pledged sobriety after having a really > bad experience this past Saturday. :-) > > I hope to fit into the sfraves circle, but so far I haven't gotten too many > friendly hellos. But whatever's clever... I love everyone and hope sooner or > later you can all come to accept me into the list. I hope everyone had a > beautiful day and mad hugz to everyone on the list! > > PLUR, > Liz > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 22:20:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15969 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 22:20:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 15950 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 22:19:59 -0000 Received: from web107.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 22:19:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420221959.22750.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Received: from [169.237.17.27] by web107.yahoomail.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:19:59 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:19:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Andria Maderious Subject: Re:*wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello all! I live in Davis right now, where I am definitely loving having it feel like summer. This summer I will be heading back to Penngrove. For those of you that don't know, it's a tiny little town sort of between Santa Rosa and Petaluma. Hope everyone's having a great day! -Andria From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 22:34:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23922 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 22:34:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 23901 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 22:34:06 -0000 Received: from dilbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 22:34:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (ez060343@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dilbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with ESMTP id PAA22922; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:30:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Kenneth Zanotto X-Sender: ez060343@dilbert.ucdavis.edu To: Andria Maderious cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:*wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* In-Reply-To: <19990420221959.22750.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Davis in the house, ...BTW, have you heard about the party in Davis on Saturday? Ken From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 22:38:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2356 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 22:38:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 1933 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 22:38:15 -0000 Received: from web206.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.106) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 22:38:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420223723.21942.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.241.28.1] by web206.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:37:23 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:37:23 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P S T E R Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I live in San Leandro, so I'm looking for some cool ravers to hang out with in this area or close enough. send me email if you want to hang out === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 22:54:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15993 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 22:54:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 15943 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 22:54:32 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 22:54:32 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (14444) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dKKa013355; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:53:19 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:53:16 EDT Subject: Re: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom ...(my review) To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu CC: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok... I go to parties for 2 reasons, to dance, and to listen to great music, now max i know you mc jungle and thatz tight i have lots of respect for all mc's because freestyling is not easy but im just not into jungle. so that left me to the main room, whenever i tried to dance i'd have people pushing into me or past me and it was hell of hot in there. Honestly I did have fun but I guess I heard so much about harmony parties that i justn expected it to be a lot better... thanx for the flames everyone I see that I just shouldnt share my opinion which is just my point of view. if you dont like my point of view I really dont give a fuck but im not gonna post about it matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:00:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19499 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:00:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 19471 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 22:59:59 -0000 Received: from f55.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 22:59:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 94412 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 22:58:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420225805.94411.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.104.158.200 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:58:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.104.158.200] From: "K- 2" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NNR: Denver High School Shootings Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:58:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone watching this on TV??? I have been watching this for over 3 hours now, and I am completely disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and 19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 students that did it because, "they got teased and made fun of" last year. So this is their payback??? To kill some innocent kids??!!! I have noticed this has been happening alot over the last couple years. It's amazing at what can cause any person to do something like this. disgusted, K-2 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:12:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28423 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:12:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 28411 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:12:42 -0000 Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (206.253.129.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:12:42 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA15666 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990420160956.036dcb50@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:12:16 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: binary fineboy Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings In-Reply-To: <19990420225805.94411.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Disgusted? why? I think kids are well within their rights to go on a killing spree when teased. How else are they going to get rid of all that built up frustration? Maybe you should all consider this before anyone makes fun of my dancing again. BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA armed and dangerous... ryan At 03:58 PM 4/20/99 , K- 2 wrote: >Is anyone watching this on TV??? I have been watching this for over 3 >hours now, and I am completely disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and >19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 students that did it because, "they >got teased and made fun of" last year. So this is their payback??? To >kill some innocent kids??!!! > >I have noticed this has been happening alot over the last couple >years. It's amazing at what can cause any person to do something like >this. > >disgusted, > >K-2 > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:13:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 987 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:13:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 979 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:13:50 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:13:50 -0000 Received: from c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.87.180]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990420231349.HBMZ19957.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com>; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:13:49 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: , "Jess ica" Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: RE: epic cheese trance ? molten velveeta jazuzzi.... Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:14:58 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01be8b83$9c651740$508112ac@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199904200028.RAA23687@mail.netwiz.net> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Going off? I'm only riled up cause I feel personally affected by your attack... I hold the stuff you are calling cheese dear. That's why.... switch places with me (or anyone else with things dear to them being suggested to be "cheese" for a minute. Why don't I list more? because you don't care for worthwhile reasons. Why do you wanna know? What's the name of your cat? Beral? OK lets get more names of things you care for, and I'll line em up and call them cheesy. How bout your picture? Let's make fun of that. Post more pics so I can call them cheesy. That's why I'm not responding with more tracks. That would do nothing constructive at all. But if you look back a while on SFR to the last thread that benchun started -it touched this topic. many contributed. I think those contributed had something constructive to say-many artists, labels, tracks, and DJs (locally and ROW were covered). I think all that participated (both publicly and privately) learned a little, and walked away with new perspectives. * could experience the molten velveeta jazuzzi that I'm immersed into each time i hear the song. "Envision the goddess spirit within you... and you have become.... the cheezemaster." Are the "lyrics" up on the net? I want to add it to my rainbows and unicorns collection! Imagine that. what else do you consider cheese? I spin Jesse Jackson's Higher Ground speech during a breakdown of a Way Out West track (another group I'm sure you'd hate). Imagine this-Jody (from Way out West) in an article once said that he believes that people who are inherently bad people can't make good music. (he draws the difference between popular music and good music too) Wow what a concept. Kings "I have a dream"? Lyrics are up on the internet. While not on the same plane, these excerpts are all intended to instill a sense of hope, belief, unity, and progressive thinking-taking power of our planet, place, and world in the audience. What else do you consider cheese? What moves you Niels? What inspires you? share please! I'd be interested to see if anything. * I want to add it to my rainbows and unicorns collection! keep focused on your deconstructionist / cynical / heckling agenda. You'll do a lot of good. It's the easy way out. gEoff ;) -----Original Message----- From: Niels P. Mayer [mailto:npm@shell.netwiz.net] Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 5:28 PM To: Jess ica; gherbst@home.com Cc: San FranDisco Ravers List Subject: Re: +vs-=? wasRE: and the winners in the "epic cheeze trance" category are... I don't know where and or what y'all are going off on. I wanted the results of my post to be a "top 10 list" of "epic cheeze trance" with the genre hereto defined as being songs like "The Gamemaster"... Instead of going off, why don't you list some more like it? Why, because you're party poopers, that's why!! :-) -------------------- Note that classic epic trance songs (e.g. Airscape's Pacific Melody) need not apply. A true epic cheeze trance tune has that extra bit of whimsy to take it right over the edge, to the point where most people would not be able to endure the pretense before doubling up in howls of laughter. The image a good "cheeze trance" inflicts upon my mind is a techno version of the Stonehenge scene in "This is Spinal Tap"... or perhaps Jon Anderson's Olias of Sunhillow album ... Good epic-cheeze-trance is strongly reminiscent of the poetic excesses of the prog rock era. I wish someone would post a Realaudio or MPEG of "The Gamemaster" so people could experience the molten velveeta jazuzzi that I'm immersed into each time i hear the song. "Envision the goddess spirit within you... and you have become.... the cheezemaster." Are the "lyrics" up on the net? I want to add it to my rainbows and unicorns collection! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:15:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3389 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:15:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 3363 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:15:36 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:15:36 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8PD4R6M; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:14:51 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:30:29 -0700 Subject: ....scary music? Message-ID: <19990420.163459.21318.1.Trigometric@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 9-10,15-30 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't think that it's very fair to whine about what the DJ is choosing to play. You have to understand that the DJ is expressing themself through their music. I don't think you necessarily can have "scary" music. It's all relative. If you find it scary, it could be likely that you have some sort of personal problem with yourself that you need to work out. It may be "happy" music to somebody else at the same time. I'm an ambient/down-tempo DJ and will go into little spells when I play where the music may sometimes be "scary" but I don't think so. I find great fascination with it. You can't have a happy without a scary, or a good without a bad. Just remember to keep some balance in your life. The only reason why I posted this was because I know there are people out there who think the same way as Adidas for they've made it known to me while playing at a show (i.e., "play sumthin' faster man.", "this shit sucks.", "you got any jungle?"). I just want to let the standpoint of a DJ that actually, sometimes plays "scary" music to be known. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:05:44 EDT AdidasXE7@aol.com writes: > please next time someone decides to throw a >party with a downtempo/ambient/whatever room make people spin happy >music > >matt > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:18:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5297 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:18:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 5281 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:18:35 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:18:35 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3705) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dKKAa15096; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:17:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:17:49 EDT Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... To: maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, breaks@xmission.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 170 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/20/99 1:36:34 PM EST, maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU writes: << Any of the rest of you have any feelings one way or another? Was I being a deee-ock? >> i think that bboy circles are cool if they are in a remote location where people can choose to watch or dance near them. but if its in a 3 sq ft. location and there isnt any room for the bboys....sorry but they have to go. well the on going battle continues... DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:19:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6041 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:19:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 6014 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:19:19 -0000 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:19:19 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id QAA00785; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:19:17 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: 420 To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk how depressing is it to be at work at 4:20 on 4/20? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:19:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6676 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:19:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 6438 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:19:32 -0000 Received: from diamond.sierra.net (207.135.224.253) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:19:32 -0000 Received: from sierra.net (jobs-d156.sierra.net [207.135.194.156]) by diamond.sierra.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA28464; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371D0B68.96394903@sierra.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:19:04 -0700 From: blondies@sierra.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: binary fineboy , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings References: <4.1.19990420160956.036dcb50@shell4.ba.best.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!! This is a tradgedy and you are making jokes about it. Get a life. Sarah the tahoe one binary fineboy wrote: > Disgusted? why? > > I think kids are well within their rights to go on a killing spree when > teased. How else are they going to get rid of all that built up frustration? > > Maybe you should all consider this before anyone makes fun of my dancing again. > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA > > armed and dangerous... > > ryan > > At 03:58 PM 4/20/99 , K- 2 wrote: > >Is anyone watching this on TV??? I have been watching this for over 3 > >hours now, and I am completely disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and > >19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 students that did it because, "they > >got teased and made fun of" last year. So this is their payback??? To > >kill some innocent kids??!!! > > > >I have noticed this has been happening alot over the last couple > >years. It's amazing at what can cause any person to do something like > >this. > > > >disgusted, > > > >K-2 > > > > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:19:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6917 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:19:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 6440 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:19:32 -0000 Received: from smtp.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:19:32 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:12:30 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD250B@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: 'binary fineboy' , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: NNR: Denver High School Shootings Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:12:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE8B83.4313FC74" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8B83.4313FC74 Content-Type: text/plain so you think death is pretty funny, ryan? I didn't think it was so funny when my mom was killed Summer of 1995, and I don't think the families of these kids do either.. andy > -----Original Message----- > From: binary fineboy [SMTP:binary_fineboy@iname.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:12 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings > > Disgusted? why? > > I think kids are well within their rights to go on a killing spree when > teased. How else are they going to get rid of all that built up > frustration? > > Maybe you should all consider this before anyone makes fun of my dancing > again. > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA > > armed and dangerous... > > ryan > > > At 03:58 PM 4/20/99 , K- 2 wrote: > >Is anyone watching this on TV??? I have been watching this for over 3 > >hours now, and I am completely disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and > >19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 students that did it because, "they > >got teased and made fun of" last year. So this is their payback??? To > >kill some innocent kids??!!! > > > >I have noticed this has been happening alot over the last couple > >years. It's amazing at what can cause any person to do something like > >this. > > > >disgusted, > > > >K-2 > > > > > > > > > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me > ******* ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8B83.4313FC74 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: NNR: Denver High School Shootings

so you think death = is pretty funny, ryan?  I didn't think it was so funny when my mom = was killed Summer of 1995, and I don't think the families of these kids = do either..

andy

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   binary fineboy = [SMTP:binary_fineboy@iname.com]
    Sent:   Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:12 PM
    To:     sfraves@hyperreal.org
    Subject:       = Re: NNR: Denver High School = Shootings

    Disgusted? why?

    I think kids are well within their = rights to go on a killing spree when
    teased.  How else are they going = to get rid of all that built up frustration?

    Maybe you should all consider this = before anyone makes fun of my dancing again.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    armed and dangerous...

    ryan


    At 03:58 PM 4/20/99 , K- 2 = wrote:
    >Is anyone watching this on TV??? = I have been watching this for over 3
    >hours now, and I am completely = disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and
    >19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 = students that did it because, "they
    >got teased and made fun of" = last year. So this is their payback??? To
    >kill some innocent = kids??!!!
    >
    >I have noticed this has been = happening alot over the last couple
    >years. It's amazing at what can = cause any person to do something like
    >this.
    >
    >disgusted,
    >
    >K-2
    >

     






     ******** oooh baby .... you'll = feel like the music sounds bettah wif me *******

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE8B83.4313FC74-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:25:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13157 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:25:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 13130 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:24:58 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:24:58 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8PEM4QT; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:24:19 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:43:46 -0700 Subject: Re: NRR: Denver High School Shootings Message-ID: <19990420.164418.21318.3.Trigometric@juno.com> References: <19990420225805.94411.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 7-8,10-17,19-34 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You know what the scarier part is, that so many people also don't give a shit. If you watch the news, it's played out more like an entertainment show. No holds barred for the media so they're going to do whatever they can to exploit. It's gone so overboard that for me, personally, I really don't even give a shit anymore. Maybe it was all the Friday the 13th movies I watched when I was little. I don't know but I do think the media's glamourization of violence, guts, death, and carnage has desensitized the poplulus a bit. But hey, at least they're making money. Oh well. That's the way the cookie crumbles. All karma shall be fairly distributed in due time. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:58:05 PDT "K- 2" writes: >Is anyone watching this on TV??? I have been watching this for over 3 >hours now, and I am completely disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and >19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 students that did it because, "they >got teased and made fun of" last year. So this is their payback??? To >kill some innocent kids??!!! > >I have noticed this has been happening alot over the last couple >years. It's amazing at what can cause any person to do something like >this. > >disgusted, > >K-2 > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:27:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15380 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:27:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 15351 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:27:01 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:27:01 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (8060) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iUPOa02129; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:22:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: <2a1b64e.244e6643@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:22:43 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: goajunglegirl@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Reply-To: BlueWAK@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have been watching it all day. And this is going on in the subs of Denver! Did you see that school?? It's huge...and nicer than any school I've seen around here...as the mother of a five year old...he's never going to school again. How scary is that???? It sure makes me wonder where these kids parents are...and how these kids ever got to the point of no return with no interference from parents. I don't want to judge the parents...maybe they tried to help and just couldn't get through....but to think that your kids could get a hold of automatic weapons and shoot up the school and kill 25 or more and wounds countless others is too much for me to handle. It just goes to show that it could happen anywhere and to anyone. This only shows the culture of violence that is rising in our society. How many times has this happened in the past two years? All because of what?? Fifteen minutes of fame? Because they felt shunned from their classmates? High school is not your whole life...nor is it the end of it if you don't "fit in"..it's just the beginning. Instead of killing...look to yourself to be happy within....make a difference in your own life....don't ruin dozens of others.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:28:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16687 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:28:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 16672 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:28:17 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:28:17 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (8060) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rYLAa05764; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:25:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: <23629b7d.244e66cf@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:25:03 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: binary_fineboy@iname.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Reply-To: BlueWAK@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk just the fact that you could joke about this...kidding or not...disgusts me From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:29:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17702 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:29:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17630 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:29:04 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:29:04 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17083; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:29:15 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu To: Megatron45@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: breakdancing circles... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > i think that bboy circles are cool if they are in a remote location where > people can choose to watch or dance near them. but if its in a 3 sq ft. > location and there isnt any room for the bboys....sorry but they have to go. > well the on going battle continues... > > DJMEGATRON:mechasoul > OH HELL NO! Breakdancing circles are the only places I get to do my chicken dance and actually get props for it. ((( bok bok! ))) Nico From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:31:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20031 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:31:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 20019 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:31:42 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:31:42 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14370) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3FFBa02599; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:30:35 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <9cabe972.244e6813@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:30:27 EDT Subject: Re: HarMony was WACK~! To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/20/99 12:36:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TriXXXXe4@aol.com writes: << So my friends and I went. We were there for no more than 45 mins. There were so many peeps who didnt belong there, that they did. get my drift? The vibe was wack........sorry kids....but that was not a good party. the guy at the door when iw as leaving was like " OH LEAVING SO SOON?" one of my friends said, "YEAH WERE GOIN TO GET A ROOM IN SAC". I was bein all honest that nite and said " THIS PARTY SUX~!": I am the honest type. ToO MaNy GHeTTo H0es and wanna be ganstas. It was funny. I saw alot of peeps leave early . maybe next time the party will be betta Peace* Linz the PRinceSS >> OUch... SOmeone doesn't appreciate our scene. If you were in that bad of a mood, I'm really glad you decided not to spread it to the rest of the party. Harmony was dope. ANd those who know ... well *you know* =)~* I loved that crowd.. you all belonged and the beautiful people I met made my night. If you would have stayed I'm sure you would have changed your mind. That was truly and SF party to remember. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:41:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26605 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:41:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 26592 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:41:30 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:41:30 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (14425) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSRFa06717 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:40:17 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:40:11 EDT Subject: NNR: the school shooting in colorado.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 25 kids are dead..... :*( i went to that high school for 2 weeks, before i moved near CO Springs, when i lived in colorado. ~Sami....this is so sad........ i've had enough friends pass already. hopefully no more have left this earth. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:46:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29698 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:46:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 29685 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:46:06 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:46:06 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (8079) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id hUEGa27452; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:44:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <86eaec8f.244e6b77@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:44:55 EDT Subject: Re: 420 To: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk im sorry u were at work on 4:20.... meanwhile.. i just toked up with ma best friend... she says hi.. ;) ::::kimmy waves::::: HAPPY 4:20 people :) have a great rest of the day.. MUAH...... PLUR valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:47:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2192 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:47:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 1881 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:47:12 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:47:12 -0000 Received: from IIBriSkII@aol.com (7810) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAULa09416 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:45:39 -0400 (EDT) From: IIBriSkII@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:45:36 EDT Subject: Re: HarMony was WACK~! To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: IIBriSkII@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if you go to a party and stay only 45 mins... and you hate the party because of what kinda people are there... you are goin to get a bad vibe, because you are the one sendin out a bad vibe... just cause you dont like a the way one person dresses doesnt mean they are bad... and if put off a good vibe you are goin to get one back... no one wants to go up to people that they think are go to be a bitch to them... so many people that didnt belong??? oh i didnt know that everyone at parties had to be the same... if someone pays there money and goes there to have a good time... meet people... listen to the music... and doesnt start crap with anyone... then i dont see why they shouldn't be there... and thats what i think about that.... BriSkE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:47:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2853 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:47:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 2792 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:47:34 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:47:34 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (14444) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oQCZa20194; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:21:59 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:21:57 EDT Subject: Re: ....scary music? To: trigometric@juno.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well damn ok before i ever knew the difference between jungle and trance I listened to many different types of music including hardcore satanic industrial, and most recently just hardcore... until i realized that music just made me pissed off. Now back to my point i know what scary music is and i dont think i described the stuff being played right. it was noise... it sounded like horrible feedback from a mic being dropped off a 2 story building being looped... I always pride myself in knowing all different kinds of music and always being open to different stuff, and listening to new things but damn i just didnt understand that matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:48:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3717 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:48:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 3511 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:48:11 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:48:11 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (14425) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rPSDa13189; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:46:51 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <576035ba.244e6be9@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:46:49 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: binary_fineboy@iname.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you better be fuckin joking around!! those are people that were killed! some i may know, i'm praying to god no more of my friends have died. i'm sorry...but if you have never seen one of your friend or any teenager/young adult laying in a casket before your own eyes and remembering what you two have done together, you have no fucking right to be joking around like this! Samantha In a message dated 4/20/99 4:13:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, binary_fineboy@iname.com writes: > Disgusted? why? > > I think kids are well within their rights to go on a killing spree when > teased. How else are they going to get rid of all that built up frustration? > > > Maybe you should all consider this before anyone makes fun of my dancing > again. > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA > > armed and dangerous... > > ryan > > > At 03:58 PM 4/20/99 , K- 2 wrote: > >Is anyone watching this on TV??? I have been watching this for over 3 > >hours now, and I am completely disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and > >19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 students that did it because, "they > >got teased and made fun of" last year. So this is their payback??? To > >kill some innocent kids??!!! > > > >I have noticed this has been happening alot over the last couple > >years. It's amazing at what can cause any person to do something like > >this. > > > >disgusted, > > > >K-2 > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:52:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8369 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:52:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 8358 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:52:40 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:52:40 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (14425) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id gBGTa26763; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:51:52 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <172477fa.244e6d0a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:51:38 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: AValverde@northpointcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk spring May 5, 1994...father died. summer july 4, 1996...christi marquez died. summer 1997... cousin/friend died. fall 1998... ex-boyfriend/friend/1st love died. Samantha In a message dated 4/20/99 4:20:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, AValverde@northpointcom.com writes: > so you think death is pretty funny, ryan? I didn't think it was so funny > when my mom was killed Summer of 1995, and I don't think the families of > these kids do either.. > > andy > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: binary fineboy [SMTP:binary_fineboy@iname.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:12 PM > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings > > > > Disgusted? why? > > > > I think kids are well within their rights to go on a killing spree when > > teased. How else are they going to get rid of all that built up > > frustration? > > > > Maybe you should all consider this before anyone makes fun of my dancing > > again. > > > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA > > > > armed and dangerous... > > > > ryan > > > > > > At 03:58 PM 4/20/99 , K- 2 wrote: > > >Is anyone watching this on TV??? I have been watching this for over 3 > > >hours now, and I am completely disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and > > >19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 students that did it because, "they > > >got teased and made fun of" last year. So this is their payback??? To > > >kill some innocent kids??!!! > > > > > >I have noticed this has been happening alot over the last couple > > >years. It's amazing at what can cause any person to do something like > > >this. > > > > > >disgusted, > > > > > >K-2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me > > ******* > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:53:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10005 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:53:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 9982 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:53:39 -0000 Received: from sapient2-bh.sapient.com (207.121.0.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:53:39 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by sapient2-bh.sapient.com (8.8.8/8.6.11) id TAA18319 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from delphi.sapient.com(10.201.1.47) by sapient2-bh.sapient.com via smap (4.1) id xma018020; Tue, 20 Apr 99 19:52:02 -0400 Received: by delphi.sapient.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2VCTPJJP>; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:52:01 -0400 Message-ID: <69C7B7C01316D211B47E0008C7248296272B21@faultline.sapient.com> From: Deron Dong To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Subject BSP: New weekly starting this Thursday! Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:51:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Looking for a place to meet cool people and enjoy music? Join us on Thursdays at Club ERA for GUANG! Where: 525 Howard St. (at First St.), San Francisco When: Thursdays! Who: People with only the best karma but 21 N over pls. How much: $8 at the door $6 w/flyer or this email Why: No reason really DJs Jimmy Chu and Cobie with other Guest DJ appearances. Ladies in free b4 11:00 Dress code strictly enforced: No jeans, no tennis shoes, no sports attire. Info line: (510) 917 3030 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 20 23:59:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13724 invoked by uid 6000); 20 Apr 1999 23:59:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13714 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:59:37 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:59:37 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (8000) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPOUa00532; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:58:41 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:58:30 EDT Subject: Re: HarMony was WACK~! To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, TriXXXXe4@aol.com CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i respect your constitutional right to freedom of speech, hence stating your own opinion, so respect mine EXCUSE ME? princesssss . .. . I dunno if you are familiar w/ bay area parties, but here, everyone belongs. There is no such thing as a person who doesn't belong, unless he/she is a cop. . . (there's where I draw the line) . . . every person pays for a ticket, there are no prerequisites before purchasing presale or entering a party. I think people w/ negative attitudes don't belong. SO just as u were glad to have left the party after 30 minutes of surveying it, I'm satisfied that I stayed at a party filled with people who had and provided an immeasurable amount of energy. It was a dope party. I'm glad that you don't regret you didn't stay. However, if you had ne idea what u missed out on, you'd definetely be feeling that remorse. good day to all! :*:*angel*:*: << In a message dated 4/20/99 12:36:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TriXXXXe4@aol.com writes: << So my friends and I went. We were there for no more than 45 mins. There were so many peeps who didnt belong there, that they did. get my drift? The vibe was wack........sorry kids....but that was not a good party. the guy at the door when iw as leaving was like " OH LEAVING SO SOON?" one of my friends said, "YEAH WERE GOIN TO GET A ROOM IN SAC". I was bein all honest that nite and said " THIS PARTY SUX~!": I am the honest type. ToO MaNy GHeTTo H0es and wanna be ganstas. It was funny. I saw alot of peeps leave early . maybe next time the party will be betta Peace* Linz the PRinceSS >> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 00:03:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16264 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 00:03:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 16237 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 00:02:58 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 00:02:58 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com (326) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPWVa26763 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:01:34 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: <49baabd2.244e6f5a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:01:30 EDT Subject: SRR: Avoid the Flames...? (Posting for Dummies -Lengthy) To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Reply-To: MissNexa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk NO, this is in NO way saying that ANYONE on this list is *dumb.* Avoided flame #1. But after spending almost an hour (and that's deleting a great deal more than half of the posts I got from today), reading only a few posts, my fingers have gotten more of a workout than my body has in the past month or so. SO! I thought I'd like to sum up everyone's thoughts on posting and that way you can have some guide to look at the next time you decide to write up a review (or whatnot): When dealing with a party review, please consier (and are definitely NOT limited to): 1.) When blaming the promoter (not necessarily *blaming*, but when involving them in the same sentence as...), they can be tied to: the decorations they put up, lighting, the sound system, the way they handle tickets at the door/presales, the amount they charge per ticket, the Djs they have, amount of people they have, permits... 2.) They are NOT responsible for: the *type* of people who show up to the party (i.e. GhettO Hoes, gangstas, E*tards, candykids, etc., etc.), the music that's being played (this is in some way contradicting #1, but, hey man, when you either see a flyer or call the voicemail you know what DJs are going to be on the bill. And if you don't know the lineup or what kind of music the DJ spins, well, you are taking a risk as to what music is going to be in store for you that night..), the vibe at the party (YOU create the vibe...the people around you create it... it isn't a given), *YOU* personally paying a crapload of money for a ticket, etc. There are more, but these are the few that I saw on posts before I went psycho on the delete button. And a few tips when partying: Bring toilet paper (my friend brings either a roll or a few squares); it doesnt take up too much space in a backpack or purse/pocket. A purell trial size anti-bacterial gel is $.79 at Walgreens. And a nice attitude. And remember that (to avoid flaming and confusion), distinguishing your own personal opinion about whatnot on the party from personal attacks against the partee crew are veryvery good. Just because YOU didn't like the music doesn't mean that the promoters are bad, just that it wasn't your earcandy. Oh, and namecalling went out after pre-school. Remember, promoters are people, too. Constructive criticism counts!! 'Nuff Said. (oh, if you disagree with me or want to call me names, that's fine, but please, spare the list and do it privately!) and the beat goes on... --> Nexa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 00:24:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28899 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 00:24:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 28882 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 00:24:15 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 00:24:15 -0000 Received: from ShockVibe@aol.com (8012) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIFVa03466 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:23:15 -0400 (EDT) From: ShockVibe@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:23:14 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: ShockVibe@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone! I live in the city that always sleeps.. Rohnert Park, also in between Santa Rosa and Petaluma.. Enjoy the SunShine! sean In a message dated 4/20/99 3:20:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, doodlepie@yahoo.com writes: << live in Davis right now, where I am definitely loving having it feel like summer. This summer I will be heading back to Penngrove. For those of you that don't know, it's a tiny little town sort of between Santa Rosa and Petaluma. Hope everyone's having a great day! -Andria >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 00:26:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2051 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 00:26:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 2031 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 00:26:51 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 00:26:51 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id RAA28250; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:26:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904210026.RAA28250@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: SRR: Avoid the Flames...? (Posting for Dummies -Lengthy) To: MissNexa@aol.com Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: SFRaves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <49baabd2.244e6f5a@aol.com> from "MissNexa@aol.com" at Apr 20, 99 08:01:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > 2.) They are NOT responsible for: the *type* of people who show up to the > party (i.e. GhettO Hoes, gangstas, E*tards, candykids, etc., etc.), the music > that's being played (this is in some way contradicting #1, but, hey man, when > you either see a flyer or call the voicemail you know what DJs are going to > be on the bill. And if you don't know the lineup or what kind of music the DJ > spins, well, you are taking a risk as to what music is going to be in store > for you that night..), the vibe at the party (YOU create the vibe...the > people around you create it... it isn't a given), *YOU* personally paying a > crapload of money for a ticket, etc. There are more, but these are the few > that I saw on posts before I went psycho on the delete button. I don't buy it. The promote has a lot of control over the types of people that show up by controlling who they promote to, and what space they use. There will always be the regulars at 2nd-n-jackson... no matter who is doing the party. > And a few tips when partying: > Bring toilet paper (my friend brings either a roll or a few squares); it IMHO, this should be something the promoter should be responsible for. How much is tp anyway? > 'Nuff Said. (oh, if you disagree with me or want to call me names, that's > fine, but please, spare the list and do it privately!) So, I can't disagree with you in public? I disagree. peace, -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 00:52:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22719 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 00:52:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 22701 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 00:52:04 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 00:52:04 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14453) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGJEa19332 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:51:11 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <3fb842b5.244e7afd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:51:09 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WhrDaMud@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i live out in BFE a place called Brentwood. Near Discovery Bay, Oakley, Byron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 00:52:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23378 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 00:52:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23353 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 00:52:20 -0000 Received: from tracker-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO tracker.excite.com) (198.3.99.217) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 00:52:20 -0000 Received: from doby.excite.com ([199.172.152.182]) by tracker.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990421005151.IAUI8247.tracker@doby.excite.com> for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:51:51 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: my opinion on circles... and more Message-Id: <924655912.5438.825@excite.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:51:52 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, like you haven't heard this before. max, i am also on the list and anti-circle-voters with you.... circles are bizarre to me.... i just do not get it. if someone loved to dance.. wouldn't they want to be dancing? let's see... one person dancing..... 30 people watching. you do the math. that's 2 minutes of dancing in an hour. huh? plus the traffic jam factor is fucking annoying... every time i hit a bottleneck saturday night at harmony, i came to realize it was caused by a nearby circle. and circles in *front* of a dj?? please, kiddies, have some respect. circles belong in the BACK CORNER of a room... get some dancefloor etiquette. and to the person who left the party in 45 minutes... a word of advice from someone who's been at hundreds of parties over the years.... and many times had to "wait out my frustration" as it were.... sometimes you're just not in the mood, and nothing is going to put you in the mood... except maybe a positive attitude, a little patience, and some attention to understanding yourself a bit. whenever i think a party "sucks" .... i remind myself that it's about music and dancing, and i look for the problem with *me*... if i'm feeling hot, i find a cooler spot (and there were MANY there saturday)... if i'm not digging that music, i move to another room (there were three, you know)... and if i'm feeling irritable with a group of friends i'm hanging with or i don't really like the kind of people who are there also... i move and dance alone for a bit, and remind myself it's about the music and the chance to dance. one rule i've made for myself is to *never* complain about the party while i'm there... while i'm there, my mission is to have a good time, and not bitch about stuff... because bitching affects me and everyone around me (ok, ok, i know sometimes i bitch anyway, but i still made a rule, and i'm working on it!) and if i do decide to leave, i know it's because that just wasn't hitting the spot for me... not becuaes the party sucked, but because it wasn't what i wanted to be doing right then. cuz life IS what we make of it, you know.... leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 00:53:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25127 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 00:53:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 24908 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 00:53:29 -0000 Received: from web110.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.80) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 00:53:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421005329.28242.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.111.131.80] by web110.yahoomail.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:53:29 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:53:29 -0700 (PDT) From: zeel Subject: Re: Subject BSP: New weekly starting this Thursday! To: Deron Dong , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Deron Dong wrote: > Looking for a place to meet cool people and enjoy music? > > Join us on Thursdays at Club ERA for GUANG! > > Where: 525 Howard St. (at First St.), San Francisco > When: Thursdays! > Who: People with only the best karma but 21 N over pls. best karma or best dress and $8 in the pocket? > How much: $8 at the door > $6 w/flyer or this email > Why: No reason really > > DJs Jimmy Chu and Cobie with other Guest DJ appearances. > > Ladies in free b4 11:00 how convenient, i wish i was a chick :=P > Dress code strictly enforced: No jeans, no tennis shoes, no > sports attire. oh really??? well then SFRAVES is the best place to post this kind of bullshit... right? Is this some kind of Miami Beach club crap?... I could be biased, but I despise this... oh well, i guess you got a point that my feet will be nowhere near this place with such an attitude. later, zeel. === zeel [djzeel@yahoo.com] <--- dj for the unconscious masses http://www.mp3.com/djzeel/ <--- you found my mp3 tracks! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 01:21:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13747 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 01:21:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 13654 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 01:21:21 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?xvTdrJSlZE/pM2bF7gPCuydZup5NcDVp?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 01:21:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id SAA20025; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:18:42 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:18:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sf-jungle@saturn5.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: my opinion on circles... and more In-Reply-To: <924655912.5438.825@excite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > max, i am also on the list and anti-circle-voters with you.... circles are > bizarre to me.... i just do not get it. I get it, because like I said I come from a more hiphop background. DJ's express themselves with their hands and their records. MC's...we express ourselves by letting our mind speak for itself in words that other people can understand in linguistic terms. Kids who write grafitti and do art of whatever sort are showing you what's on their mind in images. And the b-boy part of hip-hop culture are the ones who say what they mean with their faces and their bodies. Now, I will tell you straight away, most of the kids who you often see circle dancing at raves are IN NO WAY allowed to call themselves practicioners of what one calls b-boy dancing as far as I'm concerned. They are not hearing the beats, they are not using their faces, they are busting moves they thought about in advance, most of them. B-boys ride the riddim, whether in joy, or in a crew battle or what. Their style is dynamic and original and unique, not coming out of a can of poorly executed flares and windmills. > > if someone loved to dance.. wouldn't they want to be dancing? let's see... > one person dancing..... 30 people watching. you do the math. that's 2 > minutes of dancing in an hour. huh? Exactly, in a rave context, the standing and staring because your previous dancing spot was taking by a circle is unacceptable. It shouldn't be a matter of confrontation, it's a matter of respect for the circumstances. You'll see me at Hip hop in the park this summer watching the breakdancers, but at a rave, if I'm on the mic and they grab the front and centa....and don't move if I ask nice, I'll have the DJ stop the fucking record until the dancefloor belongs to the massive again. And Leslie, check out a right b-boy crew battle sometime, in person if you can, or on video tape. Man...you will never see such an original form of talking shit, with so much tension and energy as two lines of guys and girls surrounded by all their cousins and friends, all screaming, taking turns trying to prove themselves....through originality, mockery, I mean for real, it's like rams colliding heads over and over to see who's the dopest. those who know me, feel me on this one. respect to Rebel Crew and K.O.R.U. down in Texas for showing me that b-boy culture hadn't died. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 01:31:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23182 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 01:31:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 23172 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 01:31:12 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 01:31:12 -0000 Received: from pm5-144.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id JHB4L9W1; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:29:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000301be8b96$a1a2aa20$90c9cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: re: played out music and party promoters Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:15:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016F_01BE8B59.C4228760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01BE8B59.C4228760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi everyone i have just been wading through my sfraves mail (i've made my way = through about 300 posts and have more than 600 left to read). i just = wanted to put my 2.5 cents in on some of these threads that have been = popping up. i live in the monterey bay area and i love going to parties. i love = loud music, i love getting all decked out, i love meeting new people, i = love to dance and most of all i love spending time w/my friends, so = whether i'm at an underground party or a massive, i always have a good = time. =20 the only problem is that i usually get to go to parties only about once = a month, if that. i don't have $5 - $25 to spend on tickets every = weekend, water at parties gets pretty expensive, and hopping up to the = SF bay area is a long drive.=20 those of you who get to go to more than one or two parties a week = probably hear the same songs over and over but of all the songs = discussed on this list lately i'll be lucky if i hear some of them even = once. think of a favorite song of yours and remember how you felt the = first time you heard it... sometimes a song gets played so much it = doesn't give you the same feeling any more.. god knows this has happened = to me a million times with songs on the radio. but at parties, a lot of = times when you've heard a song for the hundredth time, there are people = at that same party hearing it for the first time, and maybe the only = time. i have songs in my head that i have heard at raves and i have no = idea what the songs are called, and i get absolutely thrilled and = excited if i happen to hear them again at a different party. =20 just my perspective, for what it's worth. kudos to anyone who puts the time, effort, and expense into producing a = party... anyone who has a vision and carries it out, even at a loss of = their own money, has earned my respect. and if the party turns out to = be a great success and puts money in his or her pockets, more power to = them. it takes a lot of hard work and determination, and if anyone = thinks it's easy, i recommend they give it a try sometime. =20 thank you to everyone who has put energy towards making a positive = contribution to this list. you people know who you are, you are the = reason i'm still on this list. well, that and the delete key. =3D) *hugs and kisses* for your tuesday evening. =3D)sooz aka libertygrl ------=_NextPart_000_016F_01BE8B59.C4228760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi everyone
 
i have just been wading through my = sfraves mail=20 (i've made my way through about 300 posts and have more than 600 left to = read).  i just wanted to put my 2.5 cents in on some of these = threads that=20 have been popping up.
 
i live in the monterey bay area and i = love going to=20 parties.  i love loud music, i love getting all decked out, i = love=20 meeting new people, i love to dance and most of all i love spending time = w/my=20 friends, so whether i'm at an underground party or a massive, = i always=20 have a good time. 
 
the only problem is that i = usually get to=20 go to parties only about once a month, if that.  i don't have $5 - = $25 to=20 spend on tickets every weekend, water at parties gets pretty = expensive, and=20 hopping up to the SF bay area is a long drive. 
 
those of you who get to go to more = than one or=20 two parties a week probably hear the same songs over and over but of all = the=20 songs discussed on this list lately i'll be lucky if i hear some of them = even=20 once.  think of a favorite song of yours and remember how you felt = the=20 first time you heard it... sometimes a song gets played so much it = doesn't give=20 you the same feeling any more.. god knows this has happened to me a = million=20 times with songs on the radio. but at parties, a lot of times when = you've heard=20 a song for the hundredth time, there are people at that same party = hearing=20 it for the first time, and maybe the only time.  i have songs = in my=20 head that i have heard at raves and i have no idea what the = songs are=20 called, and i get absolutely thrilled and excited if i happen to hear = them again=20 at a different party. 
 
just my perspective, for what it's=20 worth.
 
kudos to anyone who puts the time, = effort, and=20 expense into producing a party... anyone who has a vision and carries it = out,=20 even at a loss of their own money, has earned my respect.  and if = the party=20 turns out to be a great success and puts money in his or her = pockets, more=20 power to them.  it takes a lot of hard work and determination, and = if=20 anyone thinks it's easy, i recommend they give it a try sometime. =20
 
thank you to everyone who has put = energy=20 towards making a positive contribution to this list.  you = people know=20 who you are, you are the reason i'm still on this list.  well, = that=20 and the delete key. =3D)
 
*hugs and kisses* for your tuesday=20 evening.
 
=3D)sooz
 aka libertygrl
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_016F_01BE8B59.C4228760-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 01:44:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7168 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 01:44:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 7050 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 01:44:16 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 01:44:16 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.154] (kenya-154.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.154]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28944 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:44:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:06:18 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: Whatever happened to Susan R Kameny? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Any of you old-timers know ? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 02:21:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2405 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 02:21:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 2396 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 02:21:16 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 02:21:16 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14437) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yVOAa27453 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:19:33 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:19:20 EDT Subject: Re: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom ...(my review) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i agree w/ matt. i stayed in the chill room with the scary music most of the night too cuz i was too fed up and frustrated with the mobs of people pushing all five feet of me whenever i tried to dance. and no, it wasn't cuz i was tripping hard, i was sober, thank you very much. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 02:45:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17481 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 02:45:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17422 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 02:45:51 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?DWFFrWsyhI0O7fgjuDPmrwr9eYF6EOvN?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 02:45:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id TAA08959; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:42:42 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:42:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org cc: breaks@xmission.com, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: Re: SFJ: BREAKIN' In-Reply-To: <199904210203.TAA15080@mail-gw2.pacbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, mark wrote: > Now, don't take that as an insult. Please, I'm not > trying to start a flame war. But seriously, what is JUNGLE? It has the > least in common with the rave scene now more than ever. Most of the > producers and DJs that are constantly name checked on this list are all > B-Boys. And there is some serious funk in so many of the tracks coming out > now. JUNGLE is the EVOLUTION of hip-hop. And if you don't believe it then > clean off those Ortofon styli and listen to your records again. okay. in biology there is a phenomenon that I think describes the relationship that hiphop and drum&bass share. Convergant evolution. Bats and Birds come from totally different lines of evolution. but they both have wings, seen? Jungle is not an evolution of hiphop. It's it's own dynamic entity, and although on some levels it grew out of similar conditions to what helped hiphop evolve into what it is....it's not the offspring of hiphop, and I think you'll probably be playing the stereotype "yank" of you think otherwise. Does this mean that they haven't crossed over into each other? Or that both of them don't have roots in the Carribbean, much less Africa? Not at all. Does this mean they shouldn't be proper bedfellows? Nah... We are all in this for the same reasons...to express what's inside us somehow, through whatever channel we can. So go rinse your old Michigan and Smiley records and your "Real Roxanne" and your 1992 copy of original "Logical Progression" and let me know when the 4 on the floor kick drum was part of hiphop. > there.Respect that. Breaking? it's all part of it. We're not candy ravers, > we're not trying to save the rave. This is the real deal.Ryme Tyme said this > was the funk of the future. Don't let him be proven wrong. Heh. Man, how many yardies you ever see breakdancing in Jamaican clubs? If I am down on the dancefloor, jungle raving, freaking some girl, whatever, and some guy tells me to move so he can make a circle to dance in, I'm going to say, yeah in a minute...or how about never, is never okay for you? Just because you think you can break, or even if you can, that doesn't give you the right to own the dancefloor. People bogle grind to the funk of the future as well as break...they can both be part of the same vibe, but if I'm on the mic, they're not going to break in the front and center where all the trainspotter DJ-lover, frontrow jungle raving folks are. Especially if they suck ass and look like gas-o from Bust a Groove. boh! 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 02:47:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18962 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 02:47:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 18914 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 02:47:21 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 02:47:21 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-9.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.9]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA06049 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990421012026.006cb61c@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:20:26 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't think he is kidding him, I think it is true.. Some ppl can only take so much teasing..maybe instead of being disgusted maybe one should look at how they treat others. It's posssible to make somebody crazy by the time they are 2 years age ya know. Not to be in sympathetic but remeber that Adam Sadler movie where he apologizes to Steve Buschemi and then Steve crosses Adam off his killing list...thats how i think of it, treat others nicely and they won't kill you later. Nuku At 04:19 PM 4/20/99 -0700, you wrote: >ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!! > >This is a tradgedy and you are making jokes about it. Get a life. > >Sarah >the tahoe one > >binary fineboy wrote: > >> Disgusted? why? >> >> I think kids are well within their rights to go on a killing spree when >> teased. How else are they going to get rid of all that built up frustration? >> >> Maybe you should all consider this before anyone makes fun of my dancing again. >> >> BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA >> >> armed and dangerous... >> >> ryan >> >> At 03:58 PM 4/20/99 , K- 2 wrote: >> >Is anyone watching this on TV??? I have been watching this for over 3 >> >hours now, and I am completely disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and >> >19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 students that did it because, "they >> >got teased and made fun of" last year. So this is their payback??? To >> >kill some innocent kids??!!! >> > >> >I have noticed this has been happening alot over the last couple >> >years. It's amazing at what can cause any person to do something like >> >this. >> > >> >disgusted, >> > >> >K-2 >> > >> >> >> >> ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 02:55:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22797 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 02:55:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22786 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 02:55:24 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 02:55:24 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com (8065) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3OVa002131; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:53:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: <47c219b2.244e978f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:53:03 EDT Subject: what the hell? Re: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, mercury@liquidmercury.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 15 Reply-To: Fine19boy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk UHmmm OK I don't really want to get into this but what you just said makes no sense Well at least it shouldn't make any sense but i guess for this list it seems to be the norm "I don't think its fair that you can complain...." What is that? Its not fair for someone who paid to have a good time who did not have a good time to complain about that fact? And even if she is complaining so what? I mean come on. This list is getting way to harsh. Sherry was being harsh about her feelings with the Harmony crew, yes but then some listers were being harsh with there telling her not to complain aboutpeeps in the harmony crew who are friends of said listers. Let them stand up for themselves if they did not like it We don't all have the same taste or the same level of tolerance. We all will definetly disagree and argue but we so need to get over ourselves Harmony has been throwing for a long long long time. And they have put heart and effort into there parties. And they have definetly heard their share of complaints about their parties. If anyone can tell me different I will be amazed. They are experienced with party throwing so they have to be experienced in peeps saying they did not like their parties. They are fine about it I am sure cause everyone knows you can not please everybody. I just don't understand why peeps are saying its not fair to say that you did not enjoy yourself Sherry was stating her point of view of her experience that night and no one can tell her it was not true or it was biased cause their point of view was not the same ~T In a message dated 4/20/99 12:38:53 PM EST, mercutio73@rocketmail.com writes: << I also do not think its fair that you can "bitch", be cvause thats what it seems like you are doing about Harmonies profit margin. The company you have been known to work for, Feel Good Entertainment, your web design, and DJ skills, and we won't even discuss there profit margin. I just dont think its fair that you can complain, about probably the best decorated big party you have been to in the last couple years. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 02:59:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25376 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 02:59:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 25358 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 02:59:48 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 02:59:48 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (8051) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPXHa20195; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:59:16 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: <482a66ce.244e98c0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:58:08 EDT Subject: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y To: Ezzm@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you sure hit the spot anthony. laura rachael me (tim) joe and the rest of the orindian cru are looking forward to going nuts at your set. we're all there to support you the rest of the way. to the people...quit the complaining. your paying a cheap price for quality dj's on a quality day (my b day) =]. the sun will be shining and the music will flow with your mind. respect what is put into the parties then complain somewhere else. if you want to complain, walk in the other mans shoes for a mile.when done your a mile away in the other mans shoes.(figua that one out) hope to see yall there. its going to be SICK!!!! -ever From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:03:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28190 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:03:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 28181 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:03:55 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:03:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 22975 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:03:49 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:03:49 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station241.thegrid.net [209.162.3.241]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25372; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371D401C.E641FEB3@thegrid.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:03:56 -0700 From: BreakBeat X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: my opinion on circles... and more References: <924655912.5438.825@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok well... I think like anything circles have there place in moderation. I would in no way consider myself a "b-boy" but I still love circles. Simply because you dance in a circle doesn't mean thats the only place u dance. I usually dance around everywhere, stop in a circle, dance for a minute, watch a few other dancers, then move on. The first time i went into a circle and danced it was a big thing for me, it was a way of proving to myself my dancing skills had improved to the point I didn't have to feel self conscious about them. No, I don't have mad floor moves, so don't anyone go expecting me too if they see me. Too me a rave isn't a battle, and there isn't a reason to go there to show off. Circles should be kept out of the way of the DJ, and should not limit the space other people have to dance. Other than that, I think they are a great form of expression, my 2 sense, symmetry leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > yeah, like you haven't heard this before. > > max, i am also on the list and anti-circle-voters with you.... circles are > bizarre to me.... i just do not get it. > > if someone loved to dance.. wouldn't they want to be dancing? let's see... > one person dancing..... 30 people watching. you do the math. that's 2 > minutes of dancing in an hour. huh? > > plus the traffic jam factor is fucking annoying... every time i hit a > bottleneck saturday night at harmony, i came to realize it was caused by a > nearby circle. and circles in *front* of a dj?? please, kiddies, have some > respect. circles belong in the BACK CORNER of a room... get some dancefloor > etiquette. > > and to the person who left the party in 45 minutes... a word of advice from > someone who's been at hundreds of parties over the years.... and many times > had to "wait out my frustration" as it were.... sometimes you're just not in > the mood, and nothing is going to put you in the mood... except maybe a > positive attitude, a little patience, and some attention to understanding > yourself a bit. > > whenever i think a party "sucks" .... i remind myself that it's about music > and dancing, and i look for the problem with *me*... if i'm feeling hot, i > find a cooler spot (and there were MANY there saturday)... if i'm not > digging that music, i move to another room (there were three, you know)... > and if i'm feeling irritable with a group of friends i'm hanging with or i > don't really like the kind of people who are there also... i move and dance > alone for a bit, and remind myself it's about the music and the chance to > dance. > > one rule i've made for myself is to *never* complain about the party while > i'm there... while i'm there, my mission is to have a good time, and not > bitch about stuff... because bitching affects me and everyone around me (ok, > ok, i know sometimes i bitch anyway, but i still made a rule, and i'm > working on it!) > > and if i do decide to leave, i know it's because that just wasn't hitting > the spot for me... not becuaes the party sucked, but because it wasn't what > i wanted to be doing right then. > > cuz life IS what we make of it, you know.... > > leslie > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:04:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28919 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:04:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28907 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:04:46 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:04:46 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com (8065) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 9ODCa17925; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:00:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: <6d3cba14.244e9952@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:00:34 EDT Subject: Re: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ To: LXC@crai.com, AdidasXE7@aol.com, maxmcc@csua.berkeley.edu, mercury@liquidmercury.com CC: candygirl5384@hotmail.com, crazygrl@ix.netcom.com, Daryll.D.Jacobson@is.shell.com, FengFire@aol.com, gpxl@pcgr.com, HiSKiD76@aol.com, jawthepixieman@hotmail.com, Jondabomb@aol.com, Juju0322@aol.com, kirden@hotmail.com, knarasky@gothambay.com, liquid@liquidmercury.com, MissNexa@aol.com, MiZcheVus1@aol.com, OmenUNO@aol.com, rayvonie@ix.netcom.com, rickf@airlink.com, sherbear_21@yahoo.com, skillz420@hotmail.com, Skyebaby@aol.com, Srainbowie@aol.com, YGreen@ea.com, samysmooth@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 15 Reply-To: Fine19boy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey everyone i kinda agree with loic i know you didnt like what you saw at harmony sherry, and believe me i am no fan of 2nd and Jackson but..... Voicing our opinions has to be done on our "Sober Ravers" private list If we don't like a party, lets voice our frustrations or disguts with it on sfraves. thats the list for bitching as everyone on that list shows us each and every day Lets just not get that way on here. Plus not to mention the fact that we each got two emails from every one person about this cause of the CC and the resending it to everyone thru SFRaves. Don't get me wrong sherry, you opinion is as important and valid as everyone elses, but lets not use our list for knocking parties. Just look for the good in a party and talk about that on here. You don't have to cut out any bad things that happened, just dont dwell on those things Use SFRaves for that. Everyone else does Well its time for my gayass to shutup :) lates kids ~T From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:08:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 466 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:08:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 457 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:08:53 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:08:53 -0000 Received: from LatinSilk0@aol.com (229) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEGLa09146 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:01:01 -0400 (EDT) From: LatinSilk0@aol.com Message-ID: <71673a6f.244e995b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:00:43 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: LatinSilk0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a real sad situation and can be looked at from two points of views, from the killers, and from everyone elses, In everyone elses eyes they are crazy, ruthless, cold blooded killers who cant control theyre anger, i personally have my own limits, and when pushed so far id take action but i would never go as far as taking someone elses life unless the same was done to me, These kids could not control they anger or be smart enough to retaliate in some other way, they just wanted quick attention and respect, which they did not get, they got the attention but they gonna be locked up for the rest of they life, actions and consequences, aka JUSTICE for everyone else, If you take the side of the killers, youre not thinkin it through, theres other ways you can control your anger, seek revenge in a non lethal or crazy way that will hurt not only others but yourself in the long run, Feelings can take a person to the edge.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:13:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4548 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:13:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 4538 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:13:26 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:13:26 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (527) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIRTa18507 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:12:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:12:19 EDT Subject: Quick Question To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: Abbo1234@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I just have a really quick question. A friend of mine told me that she heard that E has a heroin base. Does anybody know if this is true or not?? Thanks for helping me out in advance. PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:14:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5741 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:14:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 5727 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:14:42 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:14:42 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (527) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUJQa14184 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:14:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:13:38 EDT Subject: Re: *wHeRe dOeS eVErYoNe liVe?* To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: Abbo1234@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I live in Elk Grove, which is near the capital city of Sacratomato! PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:33:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12888 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:33:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 12868 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:33:19 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:33:19 -0000 Received: from WizardCCCA@aol.com (542) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWHSa19331 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:32:05 -0400 (EDT) From: WizardCCCA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:30:50 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: WizardCCCA@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ya know... I konw you prolly don't mean anything by this... but being from near Denver, this episode hit home for a lot of my friends and myself. Please be considerate to those of us that are hurting from this... one of my friends friends sisters was involved in the shooting and luckily she was saved and unharmed... but this is a major reality check for all of us here in Colorado.... Liz In a message dated 4/20/99 5:13:05 PM, binary_fineboy@iname.com writes: << Disgusted? why? I think kids are well within their rights to go on a killing spree when teased. How else are they going to get rid of all that built up frustration? Maybe you should all consider this before anyone makes fun of my dancing again. BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA armed and dangerous... ryan >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:48:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21983 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:48:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 21764 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:48:14 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:48:14 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (8051) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHESa00528; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:52:37 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:52:31 EDT Subject: Re: Tranquility postings To: Ezzm@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the location of this party is going to be FIIcking sick. id pay 20 bucks to go AND its on my birthday. dont go if you dont want to pay. more room for more of our friends From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:50:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23862 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:50:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 23823 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:50:29 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:50:29 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (14421) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTEAa05754; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:48:55 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: <2364f726.244ea49d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:48:45 EDT Subject: Re: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: LatinSilk0@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you say locked up for the rest of their lives.......yea, in the casket. the boys commited suicide afterwards. not related to this-but people-know the info before you spread what are now rumors From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:52:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25550 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:52:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 25528 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:52:17 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:52:17 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (14421) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHTSa13189; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:51:36 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: <25442325.244ea544@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:51:32 EDT Subject: Re: Quick Question To: Abbo1234@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk some does some doesnt. other "e" is cut with different drugs such as crank and speed. RoughNeck's supposedly based on heroin, its all a matter of how pure the E is and where it originated From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 03:58:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29078 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 03:58:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 29042 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 03:58:21 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 03:58:21 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (14421) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJBQa17925; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:57:02 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: <9b0a3a48.244ea68c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:57:00 EDT Subject: Re: Re: The many different types of ravers To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, BBoiBreks@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahaha thats soo cute sami=) -ever From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:00:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1711 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:00:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 1678 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 04:00:48 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 04:00:48 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (14421) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7DWCa19330; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:58:58 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:57:32 EDT Subject: Re: Re: The many different types of ravers To: goodvibe@geocities.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, NThompson@pgmusa.com CC: nngo@velos.com, FReShKiD7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, BBoiBreks@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what the.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:03:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4165 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:03:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 3926 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 04:03:16 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 04:03:16 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (7804) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGAYa20195 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:02:28 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <4dbe0029.244ea7d2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:02:26 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk by the way, they won't be locked up for life. they commited suicide shortly after the shootings. just an update. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:13:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10598 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:13:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 10502 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 04:13:32 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 04:13:32 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (7804) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJNGa15098 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:12:49 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <4ba29b2c.244eaa3f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:12:47 EDT Subject: Re: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom ...(my review) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, before anyone flames me for not having a good time at harmony (heaven forbid me having feelings besides glee when i'm at a party), lemme clear up that although i said the downbeat room had some "scary" music, and by this i mean eerie loud noises, it also had some good music too. i'm sorry that i didn't have a good time and that some other people didn't either, but that is NO reason for people to tear them up for it. my god, does there always have to be controversy over every single post??!! lighten up people, it's ok to have bad time at a party. it doesn't mean that they were putting out bad vibes or that they don't appreciate the scene, things happen and it is near impossible to have a good experience at EVERY party. i did have a bit of fun towards the end when people started to clear out, and i could finally dance and find my freinds, but over all i think i just had too high of expectations of the springtime flower festival. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:18:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12535 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:18:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12527 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 04:18:09 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 04:18:09 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (7804) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYXOa26763 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:17:22 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <1a67e4ad.244eab50@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:17:20 EDT Subject: all play togther info To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey i was wondering if anyone could give me a # to call to get more info on all play together, or even a web page might be nice. also, what was that organization where u can get tickets over the web? there was a thread about it earlier but i don't remember the name. please e-mail me with any help possible. thanks. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:26:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20589 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:26:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20575 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 04:26:43 -0000 Received: from web707.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.27) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 04:26:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421042457.12483.rocketmail@web707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.212.201.56] by web707.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:24:57 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:24:57 -0700 (PDT) From: mike bolger Subject: SUNSET BOAT PARTY To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk congradulations to all who made it. i'm a boy scout and usually have my shit together, but found myself working untill 10pm on wednesday ((such is the occupational hazzard for most people in this city who work for a living. man, the things i would be doing right now if i was livng back in the dorms...)) and by 6pm thursday tweekin records / san fransico was sold out. this for a party that had very minimal, low-fi, promotion and no noise on either the sfraves calendar or the housewares line or ((i believe)) the buzz line. damn ! showed up at 4pm on sunday to try and get on a waiting list for me, my kid sister, and 3 other people who had used this as an excuse to fly up from san diego, and stuck it out untill 8pm before calling it a lost cause. it's funny, but i can't even remember how many times i've beaten the sound system to a party by a couple of hours. there's this bond you develop with all the other desporate/hardcore and psyced people around you; kinda like what'll happen when the new star wars opens next month. just talked to Kevin, who's party tastes and judgments i probably value more than anyone else i know on this planet, about sunday and he said that it was a full-on, solid, no-bullshit event. shamelessly hot girls getting down, moments where you'd scan the room and make eye contact with other guys who'd smile at you instead of fronting, and just people happy to be alive. i'm already looking forward to the sunset summer campout. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:30:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23873 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:30:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 23865 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 04:30:39 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 04:30:39 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (315) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYSJa24494; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:29:01 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <3d1301e0.244eae0a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:28:58 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: LatinSilk0@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, from what i understand, the two kidz commited suicide, so the two of them will not be in jail, the families and friends of the kids killed, and those injured, will not see justice for these horrible acts of violence... there will be no real answers... no one will ever be able to understand these sensless killings..... my heart goes out to those involved, my lil brother is friends with a girl who lives out there, who's bestfriend is one of the kids in critical condition.... hundreds if not thousands of people will be affected by this tragedy.... i for one, am getting to be more and more afriad for what the future holds.... in the last 4 years i have seen a friend from school commit suicide, a friend's brother die from a car accident where him and the others involved were drunk and hit a telephone pole, a girl that i used to go to school with die in a motor cycle accident, a former friend is in jail for killing three other teenagers while driving drunk, last year a freshman at my school shot herself in the head after fighting with her boyfriend, a girl who lives in my town attacked and killed in her own home, a friend's aunt raped and murdered just last month, the stories go on and on and on.... it makes you realize that these *real*, horrible, tragic things are going on in the world around me... it could just as easily be someone i know, someone i love... kinda makes me appreciate life a lil more... hope and love to those involved in this massacre and their friends and families, and to the families of the two boys who commited these crimes, may they find resolution, and realize that these kids had to be majorly troubled, and were not thinking rationally.... love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/20/99 8:09:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, LatinSilk0@aol.com writes: << to me, These kids could not control they anger or be smart enough to retaliate in some other way, they just wanted quick attention and respect, which they did not get, they got the attention but they gonna be locked up for the rest of they life, actions and consequences, aka JUSTICE for everyone else, If you take the side of the killers, youre not thinkin it through, theres other ways you can control your anger, seek revenge in a non lethal or crazy way that will hurt not only others but yourself in the long run, Feelings can take a person to the edge.. >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:33:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26915 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:33:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 26802 invoked by uid 233); 21 Apr 1999 04:33:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 24519 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 16:10:35 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 16:10:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420161444.13611.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:14:44 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:14:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Blink 182 To: michael waldren , TeKnODiVa@aol.com, candygirl5384@hotmail.com Cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I read about the Warped Tour last night, my friend and I are sooo there, when so tickets go on sale? --- michael waldren wrote: > You will never find a bigger Blink fan in the world. > I have grown up off of their melodic punk and they > even played at my high school. > They will be in town with the warped tour on the > fourth of July and I am there. > Are you? > > Junglist Mikey > > > >From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com > >Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com > >To: candygirl5384@hotmail.com > >CC: Sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: Blink 182 > >Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:38:47 EDT > > > >NO! i love punk! I wanted to go to the concert > really badly, see Blink 182 > >and get some snowboarding in, but you know... > Harmony calls. Next time they > >play down here we should have a raver concert day. > > > > hugs n'stuff, > >trice the tekno diva > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:37:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1603 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:37:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 1590 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 04:37:37 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 04:37:37 -0000 Received: from Markis1012@aol.com (7819) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCXHa14184 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Markis1012@aol.com Message-ID: <9cae5c07.244eafc2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:36:18 EDT Subject: Why & How To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Markis1012@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I have a quick question to ask all of you. I know all of the junkies on this list are boing to be offended but OH WELL I just have to know WHY! How can someone take more than 3 hits of E and live? WHY would you even wanna take more than 2 hits of E? My friend went to Harmony last weekend and took 4 fuckin hits of E!! FOUR HITS OF E!!!!!! If I took 2 hits of E i would probably die. I just don't see how it's done. Why would you even risk your life just because your tolorence is SKY HIGH? Maybe your body is trying to tell you something if your E does not kick in right away. I have seen at least 1 person OD at every single party i have been to. I hope to see NONE of you in that situation. At Quest I only took 1 hit of E and I thought I was going to just melt. If i did any more that night I would not be here today (thank god). if your e doesn't work you should try to stay off of it for at least a month so your tolorence can go back to normal. THEN SEE WHAT HAPPENS when you try it again! I GUARENTEE you will bomb SOOOOO hard you'll forget your own name. IF you still don't feel it then i guess it was not made for you. I know i will receive many death threats for this, but you know what...................................I DON"T GIVE A FLYIN FUCK.......i'm just lookin out for the people that know how to party responsibly. I not picking on any of the kids either......this goes for everyone. markis (junglejunkie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:39:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2602 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:38:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 2591 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 04:38:57 -0000 Received: from netcom15.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.128) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 04:38:57 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom15.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id VAA23454; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:38:55 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: a long answer to a "Quick Question" To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <25442325.244ea544@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk #1 This question has no place on this list. this is a list about raves and not one about drugs. if you want to learn about drugs, please check out one of the many online resources (such as the ones at Hyperreal) or get some books. #2 in the interest of stopping misinformation i'm going to make a few statements directed at the question in question. no, i'm not going to go into another chemistry tirade. if anyone is interested in reading my previous spoutings on this issue, check the archives. but, for the lazy: no, "e" does not have a heroin base. NONE. EVER. "e" is MDMA, or 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine the MDMA synthesis is easiest when started from MDA (3,4-methylenedioxy-amphetamine), which, as you may have guess from the title, is an amphetamine base, very much not Heroin. Heroin is an opiate and is completely unrelated in chemistry and synthesis to MDMA. MDMA belongs to a group of chemicals that are known as phenylethylamines. MDMA was patented in 1912 by the pharmaceutical company Merck (the same folks who produce 'The Merck Index' which is a familiar research source for anyone who's taken organic chemistry). it is believed that its intended use was as a diet drug, but it didn't really catch on. MDMA was rediscovered and brought to the public by UC Berkeley Ph.D. biochemist Alexander Shulgin during his stint at Dow Chemical, and it's use as we know it today was born. MDMA and Heroin come from very differnet sources, and as such also carry very different price tags. from a purely economic standpoint, "cutting" MDMA with heroin is a stupid idea. it would be akin to "cutting" iron with platinum. the most common illicit drug to "cut" MDMA with is good old fashioned amphetamine (speed) or ephedrine derivatives. sometimes MDMA is "cut" with other phenylethylamines that are byproducts of amphetamine and MDMA syntheses. yep yep. chemical waste recycled and sold back to you for $20 a pill. isn't that comforting? far less exciting than thinking you got a pill of Heroin though, isn't it? sorry. yes, yes yes i realize the you have a friend who has a friend who got E with Heroin in it and that friend ate it and flipped out and this and that. here's the answer to that: your friend doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. unless they carry a highly sophisticated test kit (we're talking something that would put your typical University of California undergrad o-chem setup to shame) and checked the makeup of that pill, they have no more idea what was in it then some bum wandering up and down the Haight does. i'm of the personal opinion that the purchase of MDMA has reached an extremely dangerous point. if you choose to buy and take it, which this post is in no way advocating, the best thing you can possibly do is to first do some research on it. there are so many resources out there with good, solid, truthful information about MDMA, it's synthesis, it's use, it's effects (both short- and long-term) that there's really no excuse for not knowing. the next best thing you could do is find yourself a chemist who you trust and get it from that person and that person only. a few books you might want to look at for starting your research are: (you can probably order all of these from amazon.com or your favorite ecommerce book resource) _E For Ecstacy_ by Nicholas Saunders _PHIKAL [Phenylethylamines I Have Known And Loved] A Chemical Love Story_ by Alexander and Ann Shulgin _Ecstacy The MDMA Story_ by Bruce Eisner _Ecstacy Dance Trance & Transformation_ by Nicholas Saunders with Rick Doblin and if you really wanna get into the nitty gritty chemistry check out: _The Clinical, Pharmacological and Neurotoxicological Effects of the Drug MDMA_ edited by S.J. Peroutka but please, no matter what you choose, 1) do some research BEFORE you put something you don't understand into your body, and 2) DON'T SPREAD MISINFORMATION! there is enough solid, factual, clinical, scientific data out there that you don't need to rely on some line of bullshit that a friend of a friend heard maybe probably happened. the hippies used to say, "feed your head" -- it still applies. On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 SpNkTrVisN@aol.com wrote: > some does some doesnt. other "e" is cut with different drugs such as crank > and speed. RoughNeck's supposedly based on heroin, its all a matter of how > pure the E is and where it originated > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 04:54:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14865 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 04:54:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14857 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 04:54:51 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 04:54:51 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA28015 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:54:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca55-39.ix.netcom.com(209.110.237.167) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027953; Tue Apr 20 23:53:40 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990420213339.00b88810@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:54:25 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Thank you from Harmony!!! (+ more) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, So I am finally home... (it's Tuesday for heaven sakes! - it's good to be back) Thank you to everyone who came out and supported our Flower Festival. This was a great party in many ways for us. I had a great time with this party. It was just nonstop fun for me. From the 5 months of planning, to the dancing, all the way to the cleaning (well not that part)... it was a lot of fun!!! The Harmony crew really pulled through on this one. Thanks Harmony Crew!!! You all kick ass!!! I loooooove you!!! I wanted to give a nice long speach at the end of the party, but I was sooooo incredibly tired all I could do was say thanks. I will soon write want I wanted to talk about, but first I need a good night's sleep. So stay tuned, or just come and see me at one of the next parties that we are at. So once again thank you to all of the people who came out and shared their POSITVE Vibes with us last Saturday night!!! Peace and love, Greg= ) ps. I was going to respond to Sherry's bullshit but on the other hand, it is not worth the effort and negative energy. She has no intention of being constructive or positve at all. She just wants to bring me and everyone else who pours their hearts into these parties down. It is really sad that she has to be that way. Oh well. Btw people, for many years Sherry has hated Harmony, and many times she has decided to stop going to Harmony parties... but she still comes... why? Sherry go throw your own parties instead of leaching off of ours. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 05:08:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25375 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 05:08:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 25362 invoked by uid 233); 21 Apr 1999 05:08:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 18680 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 20:21:07 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 20:21:07 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA20428; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA06515; Tue, 20 Apr 99 13:20:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Liz To: Max McCauley Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, breaks@xmission.com Subject: Re: SFJ: breakdancing circles... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree about the circles. They take away from the unity and balance of other dancers. It's good to watch sometimes, but they shouldn't go taking up all the space up front. As for your MC comment, I didn't hear what you said exactly, but I wouldn't trip on it. You got the mike. -Liz On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > > As I said last weekend inside the room, I mean no disrespect to b-boys. I > came into the drum&bass universe via hiphop, and if I had played less > rugby and fallen off play structures and gotten less drunk and eaten less > shit on my skateboard on the way home, I would still be out there doing > floor moves so help me God and baby Jesus. > > BUT...when I am on the mic, and a b-boy circle opens up in the front and > center of the dancefloor, you have about 3 minutes before I invite the > regular dancing public to take back the prime dancing area, and move the > b-boy circle to the back, or whatever. > > In the US, breaking is part of our mix. I just don't like the way it saps > the momentum and energy of the rest of the people in the jungle room, as > they stop and stare. > > It's interesting, when I was in Texas, it was like a pretty frequent > occurence that one of us MC's would have to pop the b-boy bubble or push > it away from the DJ stand, but as far as the Bay Area goes, last weekend > was the first time I'd had to pipe up on the mic about it. > > Any of the rest of you have any feelings one way or another? Was I being > a deee-ock? > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 05:09:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26124 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 05:09:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 26110 invoked by uid 233); 21 Apr 1999 05:09:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 21459 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 21:45:39 -0000 Received: from law-f157.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 21:45:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 80086 invoked by uid 0); 20 Apr 1999 21:45:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420214512.80085.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.162.83.244 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:45:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.162.83.244] From: "{Space For Rent}" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Happy Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:45:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 420 Folx!!!! --_Anakin "Stay Connected" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 05:14:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29932 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 05:14:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29920 invoked by uid 233); 21 Apr 1999 05:14:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4095 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 23:16:21 -0000 Received: from cloudfactory.org (HELO stratus.cloudfactory.org) (trose@205.179.129.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 23:16:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (trose@localhost) by stratus.cloudfactory.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA04021; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:17:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:17:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose Reply-To: Tony Rose To: drnog@technostate.com Subject: (bsp) EEEEE . SSSSS . PPPPP 510.845.7885 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (bored of all night ambient parties? ..how about an all night hardcore and experimental party!! woo hoo!!) Eyeslit productions presents E.S.P (exploring danceable and non danceable electronic music) Saturday April 24th Optic O.S.T Dr. Nog Aneurysm Gabbergirl Rojo Ojos Blectum from blechdom Cool Hand Luke From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 05:18:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3827 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 05:18:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 3800 invoked by uid 233); 21 Apr 1999 05:18:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 7007 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 00:36:59 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 00:36:59 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (8000) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rGOWa19331; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:32:50 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <39b6c2db.244e76ac@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:32:44 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings...420 To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com, binary_fineboy@iname.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SpinDazE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK that binary fine boy is prolly all high and sh*t like those freeks in their trench coats who bombarded that highschool w/ their guns. 4:20 hitler's bday angela lang's bday (random) and today 25 innocent kids dead. . . quit smokin for a sec and think about these kids, i mean life is so precious. In a message dated 4/20/99 4:48:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SaMiENiTTy@aol.com writes: << you better be fuckin joking around!! those are people that were killed! some i may know, i'm praying to god no more of my friends have died. i'm sorry...but if you have never seen one of your friend or any teenager/young adult laying in a casket before your own eyes and remembering what you two have done together, you have no fucking right to be joking around like this! Samantha In a message dated 4/20/99 4:13:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, binary_fineboy@iname.com writes: > Disgusted? why? > > I think kids are well within their rights to go on a killing spree when > teased. How else are they going to get rid of all that built up frustration? > > > Maybe you should all consider this before anyone makes fun of my dancing > again. > > BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA > > armed and dangerous... > > ryan > > > At 03:58 PM 4/20/99 , K- 2 wrote: > >Is anyone watching this on TV??? I have been watching this for over 3 > >hours now, and I am completely disgusted. Up to 25 students dead, and > >19 injured....all done by 2 or 3 students that did it because, "they > >got teased and made fun of" last year. So this is their payback??? To > >kill some innocent kids??!!! > > > >I have noticed this has been happening alot over the last couple > >years. It's amazing at what can cause any person to do something like > >this. > > > >disgusted, > > > >K-2 > > > > > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 05:36:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14611 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 05:36:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14586 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 05:35:58 -0000 Received: from law-f225.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.163) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 05:35:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 92604 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 05:35:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421053531.92603.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.162.50.245 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:35:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.162.50.245] From: "Mandi Girl" To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Re: Blink 182 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:35:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I might be wrong, but I think there is a NOFX concert this Thursday because I can't go, but I really want to. Mandi >i want to see all of you at the nofx concert coming up sometime in may. its >in sf and its going to bee off the hoook! >-ever From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 06:15:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7011 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 06:15:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 6982 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 06:15:34 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 06:15:34 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (8032) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id fCFYa18507; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:13:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <695fd038.244ec68d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:13:33 EDT Subject: Re: SFJ: BREAKIN' To: symplex@pacbell.net, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/20/99 10:17:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, symplex@pacbell.net writes: << Many points were brought up about how breaking does not belong in the center of the dancefloor, and there were many good points brought up. But...from what I had been reading it seems to me that many of the people replying were approaching dancing from the same view that some glow stick grasping, trance loving raver would. Now, don't take that as an insult. Please, I'm not trying to start a flame war. But seriously, what is JUNGLE? It has the least in common with the rave scene now more than ever. Most of the producers and DJs that are constantly name checked on this list are all B-Boys. And there is some serious funk in so many of the tracks coming out now. JUNGLE is the EVOLUTION of hip-hop. And if you don't believe it then clean off those Ortofon styli and listen to your records again. Seriously, what more does anybody want? The breakers are in the JUNGLE rooms, not the trance rooms, the house rooms, the damn MTV breakbeat rooms. They know what's up so they'll be in there. And it will help the scene grow and keep it here long after the death of trance;) JUNGLE wasn't created by the rave promoters, and it sure as hell isn't the soundtrack for the MTV generation. It grew out of hip hop and it encompasses all 4 elements and created is own.DJs, MCs, writers, B-Boys, trainspotters, promo fiends, Akai/Roland freaks. Get the picture? If you're really a true "JUNGLIST" (am I allowed to say that?) then you'll hear what I'm saying. Hip-Hop, that's our roots right there.Respect that. Breaking? it's all part of it. We're not candy ravers, we're not trying to save the rave. This is the real deal.Ryme Tyme said this was the funk of the future. Don't let him be proven wrong. >> what about jungle coming from uk hardcore? that was played at raves back in the day in the uk...the motherland of jungle. also there are many other influences in jungle besides just hip hop man. many headz. many folks, partisipated in it. of course they used hip hop breaks back in the day but the roots was more than just it being a hip hop thing. DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 06:30:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11441 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 06:30:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 11380 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 06:30:05 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 06:30:05 -0000 Received: from Pogobee@aol.com (14375) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vALRa09145 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:28:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Pogobee@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:28:20 EDT Subject: to all those who didn't like Harmony To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Reply-To: Pogobee@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk too freaking bad for you.... i'm very critical of the parties i go to and i found this past Harmony to be one of the best they've put together in a very long time. the djs in the main room made me dance like a maniac. how could you deny the fabulous tranformation of a 2room 2nd&jackson into a flower filled 3room fun fest? the decorations blew me away! i have to give credit to all the Harmony kids for thier obvious dedication to detail. if you didn't like the look decorations here, did you like them better at tickle? And let it be known: 2nd&jackson gets really hot. not much more you can do other than suggesting more fans. amazingly enough the crowd there was filled with good energy. everywhere i looked i saw familiar faces. i was completely excited to see all my friends there. i doubt any of my friends are "bad vibe" or "ghetto," except for rafie. sure people were pathetic enough to break in through the ceiling, but *damn* it was funny watching 7 butch guys falls from 20 feet. (glad none of them broke a leg) next time you feel like you're left out, introduce yourself to someone who looks like they know how to have fun. maybe they'll be able to help you. scary music? i'll admit the djs were all playing hard although i got an extreme rush grooving to pounding beats. (thanks to mr Logik for dancing wi/ me a bit ;) i'm glad i looked at the lineup on the flyer i got months before the party. those little fliers give a little hint as to how the night will sound. ask someone if you're sure the music's going to be to your liking. so kudos to all of Harmony. you guys did a kick ass job. thanks for a heavenly experience! looking forward for the SOL pogo ps: i love all my friends: i gotta give them shouts for making this one of more favorite parties: *eric*, julia, candice, kato p0tat0, terri and dina, sean, randy, jeremy, rafie, angel and dean, paul, kerri, trice, alex, katelyn, ornette, navysatan, Woo, hiroko, danielle, emilie, emily, sara, sara, swatty, dimitri, jupiter, brian, raul, diana, michael, therese, nico, amber, david, blah, blah, blah.... i love you all! ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 06:35:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14061 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 06:35:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 13933 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 06:35:23 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 06:35:23 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com (14406) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vARCa00528; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:34:37 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <96fb8da6.244ecb7b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:34:35 EDT Subject: Re: to all those who didn't like Harmony To: Pogobee@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: SpinDazE@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk are we not two people?..lol..its funny how everyone says Angel and dean...never angel...or just dean..lol...ok im done talk to u later Dean*RiDc << angel and dean >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 07:31:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9711 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 07:31:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 9703 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 07:31:56 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 07:31:56 -0000 Received: from NEXXUS19@aol.com (3701) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFHEa00529 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: NEXXUS19@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:31:16 EDT Subject: Re: Blink 182 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 216 Reply-To: NEXXUS19@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In my opinion a band like BLINK 182 is not real punk. If you enjoy them thats cool and im not saying that if i hear them on Live 105 or whatnot i gag and turn the station. What i will say is there is a lot of great punk bands, especially hailing from the bay area and give them a listen. Some of my favorites are FIFTEEN(now thats a show to check out, they are playing Saturday ), Jawbreaker,Op Ivy(old skool ),Descendents,Ramones,Fugazi,Sleater Kinney,Modest Mouse and many others. These bands and others blow mediocre BLINK 182 and other pop punk bands out of the water...just my two cents -Lauren From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 07:37:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11576 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 07:37:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 11567 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 07:36:58 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 07:36:58 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (8041) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZTWa17924 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:36:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <4171a29b.244ed9f0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:36:16 EDT Subject: Fwd: Blink 182 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_4171a29b.244ed9f0_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_4171a29b.244ed9f0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_4171a29b.244ed9f0_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Anachra@aol.com From: Anachra@aol.com Full-name: Anachra Message-ID: <4171a29b.244ed999@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:34:49 EDT Subject: Re: Blink 182 To: NEXXUS19@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com mmk I wasn't gonna go here, but really....this is sfRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVES there are punk mailing lists comin out the wahoo...this stuff belongs on them, in MY opinion....dont get me wrong, I love punk as much if not more than the next person...it's my big music genre..well emo, but whatever...but still...it has its place...which jsut happens to be someplace OTHER than the sfraves list (: spacey --part1_4171a29b.244ed9f0_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 07:37:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12316 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 07:37:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 12301 invoked by uid 58); 21 Apr 1999 07:37:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:37:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Susie Kameny To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Partyon Susie-fanclub Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hiya! I am the old-timer Partyon Susie (: (aka Susan R. Kameny) I havent' been on sfraves in a while...but I occasionally make it out to a party or two. I have become a full-time crazy-artist-chick and been up to lots-o-good. So what happened to all the other old timers...where are you? email me and let me know you are alive too...!!!! Partyon...Susie (: ************************************************************************** From: Deepfog Subject: Whatever happened to Susan R Kameny? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Any of you old-timers know ? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 07:47:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16879 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 07:47:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 16868 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 07:46:57 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 07:46:57 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com (7987) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMLNa17925; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:46:24 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:46:23 EDT Subject: Re: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom ...(my review) To: OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I didnt mind the crowd so much that was dancing it is the people that were standing i the middle of the dance floor not moving. Those people annoy me the most they go out in the middle of the dance floor and just stare at everyone else. Its annoying and if those people would stand off to the side or the back then we would of had a lot more room. What is the point of going to a rave if you dont like the music. if it is to just see and be with friends the sit by the water bar or go to the chill rooms, but dont take up space in an already overcrowded dance floor. That is all i have to rant about!! Peace, Greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 07:58:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20393 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 07:58:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 20372 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 07:58:24 -0000 Received: from law-f243.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.208) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 07:58:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 90553 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 07:57:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421075756.90552.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.210.67 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.210.67] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom ...(my review) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, I personally couldn't move. Everytime I started dancing someone would push past me and that was it, I had to stop to let them by. It's got nothing to do with the fact that people didn't want to dance, most of us just couldn't. I love the Harmony crew and they know it but I hate 2nd and Jackson and swore I would never go back after the five dollar bottle of water episode at F-8, oh when was that? like a year ago? Anyways, I went just to see some of my friends that I haven't seen in who knows how long. Honestly, I don't think I'll ever go to 2nd and Jackson again, no matter who's throwing the party(no offense Harmony crew). Anyone ever notice that weird distinct smell you get after partying there? I call it rave funk. >I didnt mind the crowd so much that was dancing it is the people that were >standing i the middle of the dance floor not moving. Those people annoy me >the most they go out in the middle of the dance floor and just stare at >everyone else. Its annoying and if those people would stand off to the side >or the back then we would of had a lot more room. What is the point of going >to a rave if you dont like the music. if it is to just see and be with >friends the sit by the water bar or go to the chill rooms, but dont take up >space in an already overcrowded dance floor. >That is all i have to rant about!! >Peace, > Greg From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 08:05:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23113 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 08:05:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23102 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 08:05:37 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 08:05:37 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (8044) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vISSa09146 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:04:50 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: <95f57db1.244ee0a0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:04:48 EDT Subject: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y ! ! ! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WARNING ! ! ! UNCENSORED BITCHIN BELOW ! ! ! PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK ! ! ! okey now i havent been on the list for a few days and when i got back and read this post i was pretty pissed off! i mean WTF is some peoples problem? like its already been said if u dont like the price dont go! i personally know Anthony and know that he is NOT makin money on this event....if he is then its gonna be very little which will go towards improvin his future parties for u guys....u got a problem with the lineup? no-name djs scare u away? umm this has been said before but does Pyramids In The Sky ring a bell to anybody? half of that parties djs were first-timers and i swear i havent heard better music played at a party yet (well xcept Nostrums live set) and how come nobody complains about F-8 or Harmony outdoor parties that cost $10-15? do u guys just like attackin a new name in the scene? so i guess what im tryin to say is dont start dissin the party when u have no idea where the promoter is comin from! im gonna be at this party cuz i know it will be dope and if u think otherwise its your right....and your loss sorry i had a bad day PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 08:14:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25566 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 08:14:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 25546 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 08:14:49 -0000 Received: from mail-gw5.pacbell.net (206.13.28.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 08:14:49 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-207-214-211-190.sntc01.pacbell.net [207.214.211.190]) by mail-gw5.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id BAA01910 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371D8979.A7981435@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:16:57 -0700 From: neophytus maximus Reply-To: jcordero@mail.arc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA AMES Research Center FOD Division Branch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: Earth Day 99 Exposition Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For all of you interested in New "Earth freindly" Technology, NASA will be hosting a exposition highlighting the lastest advances in electromotive tech, alternative fuels, mass transit and other such related technologies. You can take an EV-1 for a drive around, or test out the new electric bikes and shit. This will be held in Hangar 1, (the massive white and black old derigible hanger, you can't miss it when driving by on 101) on April 22 from 10.AM. to 3 P.M. If anybody wants to meet up and shoot the shit about crazy old people making up crazy new shit get in touch with me before Fri. Jonathan C From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 08:17:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26821 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 08:17:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 26812 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 08:17:23 -0000 Received: from mail-gw2.pacbell.net (206.13.28.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 08:17:23 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-207-214-211-190.sntc01.pacbell.net [207.214.211.190]) by mail-gw2.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id BAA09245 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371D8A12.D66EE4DD@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:19:30 -0700 From: neophytus maximus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: N.N.R Electrostatic Speaker help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For all of you audiophiles out there, I have some questions that you might be able to help me out with. I am looking for more info on Electrostatic speakers out there. I have now a pair of ESS AMT-1's (the ones with the hiel (sp?) transformer) ESS is now an exporter, and I could not get much info on these old bad boys. And non-working pair of Quad ESL's that I would like to repair and get working. If anybody out there knows information about servicing these type of speakers I would appreciate the help. (or anybody selling any Martin logan electro stats for a reasonable price, but that is reaching I know) I have searched the internet and found only spec listings for the AMT-1's and a site that helped out (a lot?) with the quad ESL's ("sheldon's world" at Clarkson University and SDS sound lab) In addition I am looking to buy some more speakers for my home set up. I have a pair of altec lansing (series VII) and McIntosh's that I want to upgrade.(these two are driving me crazy, they sound like shit, both limited to 40Hz low freq response ruins the entire lower register, arrrhhhhhh and are terribly directional no matter how I place them ) If anyone is selling higher end floor standing speakers please mail me. I would list frequency response and all of the tech garbage that I would like, but if have not already guessed I am limited in my moola to spend on the speakers I really want. (you know, have to buy more music to enjoy the speakers, all those of you out there with thousands spend on music libraries know what I am talking about) Thank you in advance for any help you could lend. Jonathan C cordero@pacbell.net From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 09:42:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7264 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 09:42:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 7252 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 09:42:48 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 09:42:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA17171; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: AdidasXE7@aol.com cc: trigometric@juno.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ....scary music? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 AdidasXE7@aol.com wrote: -&e->Well damn ok before i ever knew the difference between jungle and -&e->trance I listened to many different types of music including hardcore -&e->satanic industrial, and most recently just hardcore... until i -&e->realized that music just made me pissed off. Now back to my point i -&e->know what scary music is and i dont think i described the stuff being -&e->played right. it was noise... it sounded like horrible feedback from -&e->a mic being dropped off a 2 story building being looped... I always -&e->pride myself in knowing all different kinds of music and always being -&e->open to different stuff, and listening to new things but damn i just -&e->didnt understand that It was probably during my set, I wouldn't worry too much about it... It's just that if I don't get the "sound of horrible feedback from a mic being dropped off a 2 story building looped" loud enough, the subliminal messages telling everybody to act like pandas in heat the next time they hear that "titanic" remix would be really obvious. Peace, AndyW p.s. to tell the truth, the screechy and crackly stuff going on around 1:30 was a problem with the chill room sound system, not quite the sound I'd intended. I'd say I was probably the one who was most pissed off about it as well... I'd been working on that set for months before the party and had to end up spinning records after we couldn't get the live sound to stop distorting. Gotta love technology... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 10:38:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19737 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 10:38:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 19729 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 10:38:16 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 10:38:16 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.237] (libya-237.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.237]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07907; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:37:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Disposition-Notification-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:58:51 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: A Special Memorial Quote of the Day Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm making this a special time in hopes that you will all take a silent moment to remember the extremely tragic incident that happened yesterday in Colorado. For those of you that are in high school and college reading this, I can understand if you might be a bit bewildered and scared to go to school. We as 1999'ers get to live through this horror. It seems to me that some people are so convinced the world is going to end at 12:01 AM on 01 jan 2000 that they figure they might as well kill themselves and everyone else if possible. It's unfortunate to see kids turn to such pure evil (which spelled differently is LIVE) ... evil is a genuine force out there in the universe which seeks to seperate us. What is nice to see however, is many kids have turned this around and represent more positive changes. Keep it up, please. So please, whatever your beliefs are, take a moment of prayer and silence for the people who suffered an unfortunate end yesterday. ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 12:18:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10985 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 12:18:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 10976 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 12:18:50 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 12:18:50 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (8000) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oGQFa13189; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:15:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <580ba90d.244f1b7d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:15:57 EDT Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings To: nuku@sfsu.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Kitana3737@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/20/99 10:47:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nuku@sfsu.edu writes: << I don't think he is kidding him, I think it is true.. Some ppl can only take so much teasing..maybe instead of being disgusted maybe one should look at how they treat others. It's posssible to make somebody crazy by the time they are 2 years age ya know. Not to be in sympathetic but remeber that Adam Sadler movie where he apologizes to Steve Buschemi and then Steve crosses Adam off his killing list...thats how i think of it, treat others nicely and they won't kill you later. Nuku >> okay.... i don`t completely agree with you here :) [here`z michelle - up to debate yet again].... i mean - i *do* agree you should treat people with respect and a certain level of kindness at all times, *and* that having to endure too much psychological stress can definitely lead one to going insane... [trust me - i go to a pressure cooker private boarding school, and sometimes people just crack under all the crap they have to go through here.... there have been not just a few alumni and students who have tried violent means to achieve their end.... i myself wonder about my own sanity... but thats a whole `nother thread :)] BUT i don`t think that is any way to justify these killers actions. ((i know you`re not justifying them...)) but i don`t think that this type of retaliation is something we as people should come to expect..... "treat them good or else they`ll kill you." i mean - well, first of all i`m not just going to treat someone "how i would want to be treated" in fear of their violent tendencies... but beyond that, i think we`ve become so numb to violence that the shock doesn`t even come to us anymore when we hear about it... we (at least i responded) kind of like... "woah, there`s another loony out there doing his thing..." and after i took a step back and thought about it all i realized we should be saying more "what the f*ck is going on here!? HOW are people becoming like this? how can they ever have reached the point where they thought this was the only logical course of action....! how is our world coming to this point...!!" i dunno. i don`t have any solutions of course, but thats just what i think :) adios! muchlove, ~*MiCHeLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 12:47:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18186 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 12:47:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 18164 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 12:47:27 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 12:47:27 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (8074) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLVSa18508 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:46:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: <3fbad194.244f22ba@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:46:50 EDT Subject: H/Sshooting:Somt'ngsWrongWithWilliamBennit'sAmerica To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BodhiInSF@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 4/20. Hum... This was suspost to be a day we celebrate the gift a cannabis, a chill apreciation day. But, infamous things happened on this day. Strange stuff for a day like this, huh? 4/20- Adolf Hitler's Birthday--- The day after the Waco massacre--- And now the Littleton, Colorado High School massacre to add to the list of not so positive things that happened on 4/20! But with this Denver tragedy, along with other high school shootings that made the headlines in the past few years (Jonesboro, Ak, Paducah, Ky, Mississippi), has anyone noticed a trend here? Many would automaticly think that such violence would take place in a inner city school in Oakland, or South Central L.A., or New York as stereotypicaly would be assumed. But no, they are taking place in conservative, 2nd admendment defending, Christian, (usualy) white America; William Bennit's Book of Virtues heartland. Many (stereotypicaly) expect poor ghetto minority kids to be doing this kind of stuff, but when nice middleclass white kids do this type of violence, we are shocked. Now, why is this? In Phoenix recently, there has had a rash of police shootings, mostly police getting ambushed, 2 unrelatedly killed within this past week. Here's some questions for you to ponder and respond to. Why are mass killings going on in so called "middle America?" And will such insidences lead to a more represive police state? Shall we see more constiutional rights being abridged in the name of law and order? Will big mommy & daddy government use such tragedies to not only strengthen their parental control, but become more punitive? Are we to see more ninja and Gestapo looking police being used to deal with our complex social problems? And being a nation that was founded on violence, expanded on violence, and uses violence to define our character and to solve our problems (foreign and domestic), is this one of the many ripening fruits from our many a plantings of karma seeds; violence begetting violence? And a couple more thoughts: Is this a product (karma) of a society that is so engrossed in living up to the highest capitalistic endeavors of pocessing "things" and being at least middleclass, that kids are being neglected in the materialistic persuits? A nation of angry, neglected kids? And, how will we know this will not happen next in a nice high school in a nice town like Lafayette, Walnut Creek, Palo Alto, or Marion County? My heart goes out to all those in Littleton, Colorado. Please send healing prayers and thoughts not only to the suffering people of Littleton, but to America, Korsovo, Serbia, Iraq, and where ever war and suffering is taking place. May we realize a kind only produces it's on kind; war only produces more war, violence only produces more violence, and that investing in a precious human being, especialy our little ones, is far more importaint than investing in the stock market. I wish all peace, love and {{hugs!}} --- Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 13:48:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7500 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 13:48:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 7480 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 13:48:20 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 13:48:20 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (14369) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xGNDa05754; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:46:35 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:46:31 EDT Subject: Re: ....scary music? To: andy@saturn5.com CC: trigometric@juno.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Why not kangaroos in heat? kangaroos are the coolest animals ever. im gonna buy one and bring it with me to parties and if anyone bumps into me and doesnt say sorry ill have my kangaroo kick box em... anyways im sorry your set didnt work out andy that really sucks i was looking forward to hearing you do a live pa matt p.s. another thing that made me not fully enjoy my party going experiece was that my ride left me around 4 without telling me or any of my friends there From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 15:34:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3253 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 15:34:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3243 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 15:34:11 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 15:34:11 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-11.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.11]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA03924 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990421140720.006c3dc8@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:07:20 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BUT i don`t think that is any way to justify these killers actions. ((i know you`re not justifying them...)) but i don`t think that this type of retaliation is something we as people should come to expect..... "treat them good or else they`ll kill you." Unfortunately you took this a little to literal, some ppl understand it, some don't, you weren't one. i mean - well, first of all i`m not just going to treat someone "how i would want to be treated" in fear of their violent tendencies... but beyond that, i think we`ve become so numb to violence that the shock doesn`t even come to us anymore when we hear about it... we (at least i responded) kind of like... I think that, one should view the whole situation as fucked up, the ppl who commited the crime obviously didn't get something needed from somewhere. "Some ppl can only take so much teasing..maybe instead of being disgusted maybe one should look at how they treat others." This is also what I said, my initial statement I said we should all look at how we treat others. If, you think that implies the thought of "how i would want to be treated" in fear of their violent tendencies..." It doesn't mean that, it just means that you should realize that some of the actions we take with other ppl set in progress a change in the other that could lead to a retaliation (sometimes extreme). It may not be a shooting but it could be something just as violent such as fights. No you shouldn't expect incredible violence such as this, but you should now know that the possibilities of this happening is growing more and more possible which is unfortunate.Rather sad . I mean if you really think I'm am talking about common action I am not and your just misunderstanding things. The gist of the email is, if a person takes extreme actions to make another person's life crazy, unbearable, and uncomfortable then sometimes you can expect that other person to get even. This doesn't justify anything it just says that for every action there is a reaction. Also I think one of the problems is that most are responding that I wouldn't do that, I wouldn't blah blah and I get teased but you never see me do that blah blah blah, but we aren't them. I just view the situation from a point of what was going on with them, the situation..and not be biased around the ideas of what i would do etc etc. Thats why there are such misunderstandings between ppl, Take for instance parents and their kids..the parent is always saying I wouldn't do that and I was always like this. Enforcing their values on someone else, instead of seeing what the kid is and trying to enhance the good and modify the bad for good. But then again, I think i'll just hang on to my earlier opinion of.. If thats what you think, then ok. Also I prolly won't respond to any email on this. Cuz like in a sense it's mad lame to argue on a subject such as this, it's still a tragedy. Cheers, Nuku >>"woah, there`s another loony out there doing his thing..." and after i took a >>step back and thought about it all i realized we should be saying more "what >>the f*ck is going on here!? HOW are people becoming like this? how can they >>ever have reached the point where they thought this was the only logical >>course of action....! how is our world coming to this point...!!" i dunno. i >>don`t have any solutions of course, but thats just what i think :) adios! >> >>muchlove, >>~*MiCHeLLe*~ >> >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 15:46:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13108 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 15:45:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 12737 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 15:45:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 15:45:48 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 287; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:43:41 -0700 Message-ID: <371DF5ED.C37CEECD@hrg.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:59:41 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ezzm@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y References: <326e4e8a.244e092c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here is my problem. There are MANY other promoters that throw outdoor events. If you throw this party in a PUBLIC space and get caught, and the police find out you were charging, you open up a can of worms in terms of legality problems, and could very well be possibly endangering many other promoters who enjoy throwing outdoor events. I have no doubt that you have good intentions and want to throw the best party possible for all the right reasons...but please, look before you leap, and if your going to charge use a PRIVATE location. John Rodriguez Ezzm@aol.com wrote: > this is anthony on mo's account, i run T R A N Q U I L I T Y....i would just > like to explain the 10 dollar price a lot are bitching about. this is the > first out door party i am throwing. a lot ov love and money is going in to > this event. I want to throw these parties all ov the time, but if i am > going to loose money on them i can't throw em. Take in to consideration > paying Dj's, pay off your voice mail, flyers, free water and fruit for the > people, sound, generator, decorations..........there is a lot ov shit that > has to get payed for. 10 dollars isn't a lot to have the most spiritual > escape on some beach with some ov the best music in the world. Look at other > underground parties. Pyramids in the sky for example. One ov the best > parties i've been to since the f-8 parties back in 96. It was 10 dollars, > and i had no problem paying it. Look at the last MHZ party just last friday. > 15 dollars 250 people...bomb ass party. > If you really have a problem paying it, don't go. It's your loss. > It's all about support. If you buy a ticket and enjoy the night, you are > supporting me and the cause. Because that is what it is all about. I'm not > banking on this event. If i actualy sell out then i will have a little money > to bring all ov you guys an even better party. I'm not about the > money.....it's all about the musc. > > . . . - - - ===((( a n t h o n y )))=== - - - . . . From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 15:51:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17943 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 15:51:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 17923 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 15:50:58 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 15:50:58 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id IAA05451; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371DF2F5.30E19E83@best.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:47:01 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com CC: Abbo1234@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Quick Question References: <25442325.244ea544@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk RN's weren't cut with heroin. follow link below. http://www.drugpeace.org/ecstasy/results.html Heroin is probably NEVER cut into ecstasy. follow link below. http://www.ecstasy.org/qanda/q2.html geezum - jer SpNkTrVisN@aol.com wrote: > > some does some doesnt. other "e" is cut with different drugs such as crank > and speed. RoughNeck's supposedly based on heroin, its all a matter of how > pure the E is and where it originated From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 16:24:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8915 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 16:24:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 8906 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 16:24:41 -0000 Received: from ns2.divi.com (HELO kms.divi.com) (199.97.190.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 16:24:41 -0000 Received: from rmarm.divi.com by kms.divi.com (8.8.8/DiviCom-KMS) id JAA12872; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990421162411.00b31f8c@kms> X-Sender: isaacl@kms X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:24:11 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Isaac Labugen Subject: HarMony was pHaT~! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wanted to say a couple of things about my experience with the harmony crew and the events they produce. I have been working with them and contributing to there events for nearly one year now (attending their events for nearly four years). I am very proud to assist an organization who cares about the people in this scene the way they do. The effort that goes into their productions is intense and their attention to detail is non stop. They consistently come through time and time again with awesome talent (normally different than any other line up(s), and a extra comfy vibe. I feel privileged to be able to be apart of such an incredible family. I use the word "family" because that's what it's like during set up and tear down. Everyone comes together and goes all out to create spectacular environments for you to come and enjoy. This last saturday was an incredible evening for me. I never have experienced 2nd/jackson this way. For me it was truly a unique design and vision. For those of you who complained about it being crowded, they were well below capacity. Sure they could of went right up to the permitted capacity but chose not to ensure the comfort of others. I guess it just depends where you were and what situation you were in. I found it rather easy to go from one room to another. Overall, the party was well done and went over my expectations! Excellent Job Guys! *I normally do not respond to ignorance and flames, but what the hell- there's a first time for everything. I thought this was the most un-thought out post I've read for quite some time. > So my friends and I went. > We were there for no more than 45 mins. *You honestly think you could of experienced the whole party in 45 min? Do you have a thinker? > There were so many peeps who didnt belong there, that they did. > get my drift? *Your right! I'm not sure who let you in. > The vibe was wack........sorry kids....but that was not a good party. *And you know about the vibe from your 45 minutes of stay? > " THIS PARTY SUX~!": *Were you at the same party? > It was funny. > I saw alot of peeps leave early . *How could you have seen anything? You were only there for 45 minutes. The party was from 9pm-6am = 9 hours - 45minutes = 8hr 15min that you were not there? Geez, you might of missed a thing or two ya think? > maybe next time the party will be betta *Please, throw your own party with you and your make believe friends and maybe you guys can create the ultimate party. After all, you know what's wack and who's ghetto and what's cool and what's not. Maybe we should all check in with you before we plan our own parties and you could advise us on how to throw acceptable parties that are suitable for the inelegance level such as yours. Thanks for your wonderful insight and constructive criticism. isaac:) > Peace* > Linz the PRinceSS From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 16:47:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25105 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 16:46:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 25086 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 16:46:54 -0000 Received: from web104.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 16:46:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421164829.9735.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web104.yahoomail.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:48:29 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Fwd: Blink 182 To: Anachra@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well, it was in MY humble opinion that the people on SFRave had a common link toward a life style. A style which involves the expression of individuality and wasn't geared toward any musical genre. I believe that there is at least a jungle mailing list and would assume that there are other genres for the Bay Area. Should those genres be exclude also because they have their own list? I thought the list was just a general area where those who live a "raver" life style (whatever that may be defined as) could discus and post various happenings in their life. If we are suppose to exclude anything that has its own list or is not directly related to some generic definition of raving or doesn't pertain to everyone on the list, there would be much left to read. We would have have to exclude anything pertaining to the following list: 1. drug use 2. sexual preference 3. specific music genres 4. last night CNN special 5. movies to see 6. funny jokes 7. who's really bored at work 8. who needs a new apartment or moving 9. who died Get the picture? These are all part of the larger picture. They may not all pertain to any one person but some might and so they are part of scene. A scene which embraces expression of individuality. *HUGZ* pat --- Anachra@aol.com wrote: > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > From: Anachra@aol.com > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:34:49 EDT > Subject: Re: Blink 182 > To: NEXXUS19@aol.com > Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com > > mmk I wasn't gonna go here, but really....this is > sfRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVES > there are punk mailing lists comin out the > wahoo...this stuff belongs on > them, in MY opinion....dont get me wrong, I love > punk as much if not more > than the next person...it's my big music genre..well > emo, but whatever...but > still...it has its place...which jsut happens to be > someplace OTHER than the > sfraves list (: > spacey > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:11:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11631 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:11:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 11619 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:11:17 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:11:17 -0000 Received: from cruinc.com ([209.157.30.51]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id KAA21825 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371E0651.9D53F78C@cruinc.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:09:37 -0700 From: RobinT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: NRR: LOOKING TO BUY EQUIPMENT!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I am looking to buy some tables, mixer, etc. if anyone has equipment for sale or knows of a web-site I can go to to purchase or bid in auction for some equipment, I would very grateful if you could let me know! Thanx for your help! RobinT From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:14:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14137 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:14:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 13880 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:14:40 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:14:40 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (14420) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXYAa03465 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:13:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <5ea412e4.244f613e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:13:34 EDT Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here is a question that maybe some of you can answer: Name the TOP 3 reasons why you wouldnt want to go to 2nd and Jackson? Please do not mention any production crews. This is not about about them in any way! Im making sure that if there are more then 20 complaints about safety it will help me out in a few gray areas! Thanks people!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:25:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26155 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:25:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 25976 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:25:25 -0000 Received: from dragon.ulink.net (209.160.21.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:25:25 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (max2-80.ulink.net [209.160.21.80]) by dragon.ulink.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id J224J090; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:25:46 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990421102139.00891530@sol.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: ez053642@sol.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:21:39 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Terri E. Young" Subject: NRR - Shootings Cc: BodhiInSF@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Bodhi! You make some very good points here. And I am SO glad to see a post about this incident that states more thoughts than questions. You all ask why? Because we (as a universe) created it. The community in Denver, especially the elders, are learning a lesson and it is important that WE see that the lesson is pointed at US as well. The details can be found in the tortured lives that some children lead (I'll refer you to the informative news articles and interviews depicting the social logistics behind the losses). It's interesting that the people being interviewed can only say *these kids were outcasts! they were freaks! that's why they did it!*. Can anyone see the flawed logic there?? It is not senseless, it's serious. When you read about this incident, and your heart feels heavy as mine, remember to give kind words to others, to help others when they need it, to make others feel INCLUDED not rejected. Remember to tell your friends how much they mean to you while they are still around. It's the same as what is happening in Kosovo! These are the lessons we need to be acknowledging and embracing. YOU are as much as part of this as anyone else is. WE need to take responsibility for what we create and perpetuate as human beings. We need to be aware. On the lighter side, always remember that for every negative there is a positive. There are many beautiful things happening in the world as we write that we can focus our energies on....we simply don't hear about these things because the media doesn't cover the non-sensational, or isn't even aware of it. For today, think of a way to spread the beauty instead of the pain: Remember the lessons from the pain, focus on the beauty for the gain. Much Love! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:46:50 EDT From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Subject: H/Sshooting:Somt'ngsWrongWithWilliamBennit'sAmerica 4/20. Hum... This was suspost to be a day we celebrate the gift a cannabis, a chill apreciation day. But, infamous things happened on this day. Strange stuff for a day like this, huh? 4/20- Adolf Hitler's Birthday--- The day after the Waco massacre--- And now the Littleton, Colorado High School massacre to add to the list of not so positive things that happened on 4/20! But with this Denver tragedy, along with other high school shootings that made the headlines in the past few years (Jonesboro, Ak, Paducah, Ky, Mississippi), has anyone noticed a trend here? Many would automaticly think that such violence would take place in a inner city school in Oakland, or South Central L.A., or New York as stereotypicaly would be assumed. But no, they are taking place in conservative, 2nd admendment defending, Christian, (usualy) white America; William Bennit's Book of Virtues heartland. Many (stereotypicaly) expect poor ghetto minority kids to be doing this kind of stuff, but when nice middleclass white kids do this type of violence, we are shocked. Now, why is this? In Phoenix recently, there has had a rash of police shootings, mostly police getting ambushed, 2 unrelatedly killed within this past week. Here's some questions for you to ponder and respond to. Why are mass killings going on in so called "middle America?" And will such insidences lead to a more represive police state? Shall we see more constiutional rights being abridged in the name of law and order? Will big mommy & daddy government use such tragedies to not only strengthen their parental control, but become more punitive? Are we to see more ninja and Gestapo looking police being used to deal with our complex social problems? And being a nation that was founded on violence, expanded on violence, and uses violence to define our character and to solve our problems (foreign and domestic), is this one of the many ripening fruits from our many a plantings of karma seeds; violence begetting violence? And a couple more thoughts: Is this a product (karma) of a society that is so engrossed in living up to the highest capitalistic endeavors of pocessing "things" and being at least middleclass, that kids are being neglected in the materialistic persuits? A nation of angry, neglected kids? And, how will we know this will not happen next in a nice high school in a nice town like Lafayette, Walnut Creek, Palo Alto, or Marion County? My heart goes out to all those in Littleton, Colorado. Please send healing prayers and thoughts not only to the suffering people of Littleton, but to America, Korsovo, Serbia, Iraq, and where ever war and suffering is taking place. May we realize a kind only produces it's on kind; war only produces more war, violence only produces more violence, and that investing in a precious human being, especialy our little ones, is far more importaint than investing in the stock market. I wish all peace, love and {{hugs!}} --- Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:30:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1968 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:30:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 1934 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:30:14 -0000 Received: from www10.web2010.com (root@209.235.15.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:30:14 -0000 Received: from [130.212.13.26] (cra-blue.sfsu.edu [130.212.13.26]) by www10.web2010.com (8.9.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA10834; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904211727.NAA10834@www10.web2010.com> Subject: i just accidently sent it the wrong list Date: Wed, 21 Apr 99 10:29:40 -0700 x-sender: liquidhg3@liquidmercury.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mercury / Sherry To: "Kari Narasky" , "Jess ica" , , "Max McCauley" cc: "Mandi Girl" , , "Daryll" , , "Trevor" , "Gerlando Piro" , "ceL" , "JASON BRANCH" , , , "Dennis Valdivia" , "Ryan Tandy" , "Comolli, Loic" , , "Paul" , "Taylor" , "Ray Vonie" , "Rick" , "Sherri" , , "Skye" , , "Green, Yuri" , "Serena" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > > >i have to agree with whoever said this list isn't about party bashing. >everyone has their own opinions about different parties... and alot of >times we won't agree on the vibe or the music. we all have different >interests...bound by one common interest to enjoy whatever it is that we >like SOBER!!! i'm injured and completely unable to even really go to a >party...so i don't even really want to hear bout them other than how much >we're spreading our sober vibe...etc. etc.......that sticker thing is a >good istart! > >kari > > > > > > >At 11:20 AM 4/20/99 -0700, Jess ica wrote: >>> that shit was hella scary... please next time >>> someone decides to throw a >>> party with a downtempo/ambient/whatever room make> >people spin happy >>music hehe >> >>WHAT! I enjoyed the music very much in the chill room, never got >>scared at all, and trust me I am a scaredy cat at most times, >>especially in the dark. People arent gonna spin whatever YOU want to >>hear. I wanted to hear what they were playin, and playing anything >>else would have changed the mood of the room. I love Harmony chill >>rooms, they are the best set ups to well, chill in... >> >>later >>;) >>jb >> >>--- AdidasXE7@aol.com wrote: >>> i do have to agree with the scary music ... around >>> 1:30 in the chill room >> >> >>> >>> matt >>> >> >>_________________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> > > _____________________sherry. mosley _ _____ _____________designer . dj / \ | Y Y \____________T.415.406.3537 |__|_| /ERCURY______mercury@liquidmercury.com \/_____________http://www.liquidmercury.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:30:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2311 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:30:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 2020 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:30:20 -0000 Received: from web704.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.24) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:30:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421173327.3828.rocketmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.145] by web704.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:33:27 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:33:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: BSP: 4.24.99 Dive-Urgency -- Bid Farewell to Happy Raver! To: sfr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi beautiful people! For those of you feeling the urge to diverge from the weekly norm... Come to our sixth Divergent Regions party in Sunnyvale: *** Dive-Urgency, the Trance Affliction!!!! *** All 21+ parties in the South Bay and above and beyond are warmly invited to attend!!! (NOTE: We offer our humblest apologies to the under-21 for being unable to secure an underage permit for the evening! For all those wonderful 20- party peeps we met and personally invited to attend our party, we are making it up to you by inviting you to our super-special extra-crispy spicy-hot *FREE* after-party from 2am to 7am!!! This after-party, in a secured SJ location to be released on Saturday, is my "last hurrah" in the SFBay party scene, and the mind-boggling DJ lineup is given below!!!) We have assembled a superfine team of local trance talent (and others!). Your happytrancedancin' mission, should you choose to accept it, will include the following technotrance stops: -Keith E. (Solid Grooves, Chemistry) -Skyscraper (So. Bay Trance Co-op, Chemistry) -Diversion (V.O.R.G.) -gEoff ;) (Stargaze Family) -Micron (viberation) -Macadio (First Light) -B))merang Fidget -JD (Syncopated/L.A.) New: Sound provided by the well-tempered SilverPearl Sound System!!! Brock out, party kin!!! Decorations by magiclove&co. FREE FRUIT, FREE JUICE, and be prepared to heavily dose on the ULTRA-FREE UG-style family-vibe brand of warmth and LUVvin' that the DR staff are notorious for providing!!! And we guarantee that you will end the night 100% free of sweaty black floor & wall gunk! Easily accessible Sunnyvale location (same as before, http://www.quarternote.com/), 21+, 7pm-2am, *FREE PARKING*. Air conditioned!!! Licensed bar!!! Call 510.330.1101 or 415.339.8735 for ticket & location details. Presales *ONLY* $5!!! But that's not all!!!........ ----------------------------------- For all ages: Please read below!!! At 2am, the party will move to an SJ location for our *super-special* *extra-crispy* *hot-&-spicy* Happy Raver *AFTER PARTY*!!! And it's *FREE*!!! (and *no age restrictions*!!!!) To bid me a fond farewell from the SF party scene, we've secured my favorite Trance & Jungle Factory DJ's (Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Joaqman) plus a *very* special guest DJ who you all know and love, to be spin daring new sets for our music-loving friends!!! Come join us as we watch the sun dawn on a new day, and set on my final weekend in the Bay Area!!! To secure your place at the afterparty, please call 510-330-1101 and leave a message!!! Or come to Dive-Urgency and carpool with us to the location! ------------------------------ Please come join us, come say hello or goodbye! If you absolutely have to go to the massives, then come on your way to (or back from!). Get off the beaten path, diverge from the weekly massive scene, and share our urgent divergent vibe. Besides, you can see Mars & Mystre on another weekend (We still love you, F8!!!) but I'll be gone for good!.... Keep it real, and keep it upbeat! If it ain't fun, then why do it? === Alex the Happy Raver don't love until you love yourself don't give unless it's free... =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:32:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3953 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:32:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 3943 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:32:05 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-1.pilot.net (HELO mail01-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail01-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id KAA10067; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:32:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id KAA13702; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 8825675A.00604CA9 ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:31:50 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: Ravergrl27@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <8825675A.005FA5BA.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:31:24 -0700 Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1: Too HOT.... way way too HOT.... I don't care if the few fans in the front are to assist in the circulation, it only effects the DJ and the trainspotters in front of the dj. 2: Too Crowded, they push way to many people through the door, alot of perspiration is rubbed off onto you from other human contact... quite nasty. 3: Way too un sanitary, porto potties RIGHT THERE!, not seperate from anything, people sitting in Piss and Shit, and I've seen my share of vomit pools 4: How in the hell are all the people inside going to evacuate in an emergency situation, not too clear if people are too exit the same way they got in.... I suppose there could be alot more, but this seems to handle the majority of the problems I have with the place. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:38:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7145 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:38:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 6944 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:38:08 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:38:08 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (86) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEQYa18508; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:37:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <597acfe4.244f66de@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:37:34 EDT Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? To: Ravergrl27@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Also may you all make the questions and answers private to me! I don't think anyone really wants to waste the time with the answers and out of respect for the list! Thanks for your consideration! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:43:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12948 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:43:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 12833 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:43:19 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:43:19 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA00629 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:42:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca9-18.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.146) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma000406; Wed Apr 21 12:41:43 1999 Message-ID: <371DA320.7A71@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:06:24 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? References: <5ea412e4.244f613e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1.Not enough ventalation/too hot 2.Always too crowded 3.Just plain dirty Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > > Here is a question that maybe some of you can answer: > > Name the TOP 3 reasons why you wouldnt want to go to 2nd and Jackson? Please > do not mention any production crews. This is not about about them in any way! > Im making sure that if there are more then 20 complaints about safety it will > help me out in a few gray areas! Thanks people!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:46:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15070 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:46:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 15058 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:46:41 -0000 Received: from web131.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.174) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:46:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421174803.12381.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web131.yahoomail.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:48:03 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:48:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: UFO in Sacramento To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For those junglist who like UFO, but don't like having to go to a massive to listen. UFO will be spinning at a deli in Sacramento on May 14th for 916JUNGLIST. *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:48:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16043 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:48:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 15960 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:47:57 -0000 Received: from tele.visi.com (HELO mail-out.visi.com) (209.98.98.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:47:57 -0000 Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03761F818 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:47:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from diogenes@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09064 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:47:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:47:55 -0500 From: Alex To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NNR: Denver High School Shootings Message-ID: <19990421124753.I29023@isis.visi.com> References: <1.5.4.32.19990421012026.006cb61c@apollo.sfsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19990421012026.006cb61c@apollo.sfsu.edu>; from Nuku on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 08:20:26PM -0500 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, this is a tradigy. no one can deny that, therefore its hardly a viable topic for discussion. BUT there is another wrong that i feel must be addressed. from what i've seen, the coverage of this event has been entirely unsympathetic to the boys who cimmited this atrocity. now, of course i'm not defending them and in any way justifying what they did, but these boys obviously had some serious problems, and when i hear Tom Brokaw refering to them as "The Trenchcoat Mafia" i get a little upset. i mean, leave their clothes out of it. i don't know whether that is what they refered to them self as or if thats what they were called by those students from other social groups, but regardless these are two sick boys. not a gang, terrorist group, or organized crime syndicate. lets not make them into something that they aren't. oh well, my two cents. -alex From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:54:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21058 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:54:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 21044 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:54:27 -0000 Received: from web109.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.76) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:54:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421175425.6522.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web109.yahoomail.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:54:25 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:54:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: RE: NRR: LOOKING TO BUY EQUIPMENT!!! To: RobinT , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk there is Ebay.com and 1200s.com. --- RobinT wrote: > Hello all, > I am looking to buy some tables, mixer, etc. if > anyone has equipment for > sale or knows of a web-site I can go to to purchase > or bid in auction > for some equipment, I would very grateful if you > could let me know! > Thanx for your help! > RobinT > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 17:59:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24088 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 17:59:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 23969 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 17:58:57 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 17:58:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421175710.3751.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [129.210.200.140] by web4; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:57:10 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:57:10 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: nrr: media coverage of shootings. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is the quote of the day. I'm sitting at home watching CNBC or something and one of the Denver anchors is interviewing a cafeteria worker who witnessed some of the massacre. She had just finished recounting the story when the anchor asked: "So this wasn't your typical lunchtime, was it?" ARGH! -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 18:13:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9278 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 18:13:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 9188 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 18:13:30 -0000 Received: from www10.web2010.com (root@209.235.15.254) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 18:13:30 -0000 Received: from [130.212.13.26] (cra-blue.sfsu.edu [130.212.13.26]) by www10.web2010.com (8.9.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA27229; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904211812.OAA27229@www10.web2010.com> Subject: Re: $ Harmony = Har, Har we got your money $$ Date: Wed, 21 Apr 99 11:14:39 -0700 x-sender: liquidhg5@liquidmercury.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: dj mad merc To: cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >I'm sorry you had such a bad time at Harmony, I guss >you really havent been out much recently. Parties at >Second & Jackson have been known recently to have a >thuggish crowd. i've been to just EVERY party there and have never been hit on that many time ever. >I also do not think its fair that you can "bitch", be >cvause thats what it seems like you are doing about >Harmonies profit margin. The company you have been >known to work for, Feel Good Entertainment, your web >design, um, have you noticed how much more that venue offers that makes it worth the $25. how 'bout free water at the water fountain, all that fresh air and outside option. and all that space to dance! not to metion all the variety in music. so yeah, they got a higher intake of money overall, but i'd pay $25 for that over that Harmony ANY day. > >I just dont think its fair that you can complain, >about probably the best decorated big party you have >been to in the last couple years. notice i said that the visuals were great! they got that down, but i would have given up the visuals if they had paid more for more fans and opening the windows on the roof. >parties, however do they give us our money's worth, I >think so! noway!! i like the one in the woods WAY better! that was a nice place and worth some money. - sherry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 18:20:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19083 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 18:20:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 19053 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 18:20:43 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 18:20:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00733; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:20:40 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: Ravergrl27@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? In-Reply-To: <5ea412e4.244f613e@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How about some reasons to use 2nd and Jackson (I personally don't love the space all that much, but for someone who tends to be *positive*positive* all the time, you're making quite an effort to make a negative mark here Jeannie). 1) It's smaller than HomeBase. Not every promoter can or wants to throw an event at that scale. 2) It's permitable. 3) It's better than Newberry's. 4) Solid two room layout 5) The rafters are a dream to work with props, lasers, visuals and lights-wise. 6) The people who manage the space are scene-savvy. 7) Central location. 8) It would be easy to evacuate in case of emergency. 9) Ample parking within a couple blocks. 10) Nearby restaurants for crew members who forget to eat until 9pm when the party starts... so they can just sneak out and get a quick bite to eat. 11) Convenient to get to (45 min from San Jo!). 12) The sun comes through the skylights in the morning (call me sentimental). 13) Recently earthquake retrofitted with wall and roof supports (most warehouses aren't). 14) Wayne actually went to a party there a few months ago and enjoyed it! 15) The end of the ramp between the two rooms is the only time I've pulled a successful ollie on a skateboard in years. 16) It's the only space I've ever played a three hour set at. :P Say what you want, say what you will. Can you come up with ONE REAL difference between 2nd and Jackson and say... er... Homebase? Oh wait, your boyfriend uses Homebase for his parties! >>> Could we PLEASE quit the kneebiting towards other promoters? <<< In the end, it's another big building in a questionable neighborhood that tends to get hot when you fill it chock full of dancing people, the same type of building this scene has flourished in party after party for years. Because of insurance, permits, fire marshall walkthroughs, etc, it is by definition safer by legal terms than any of the UG locations. I prefer it to any other permittable location except one in Oakland (the space used for that Beautiful People where we had Brian and Brad play). What is your point here? I'm sorry you felt faint as a result of the heat and humidity at Flower Fest. To be honest, I have felt similarly at every major location sooner or later... the answer is in fans and ventilation, but it's tough when sound leakage is a concern (and did you know that fans actually INCREASE ambient air temperature, so if you're not bringing in cool air, they actually raise the temperature?). I hate to say this, but if you don't like it, don't go! Unity anyone? AndyW (the views expressed by andyw are his and his alone, and do not reflect the views of harmony, cloud factory, viberation, mutor sound system, nomad interactive, the City of Oakland, Francis the Talking Mule, Vestax mixers, JBL speakers, Ortofon cartridges, MIT, Studio 54, Saturn5, Juan Atkins the Bringer of All Things Splendid Sounding or anybody else not named andyw). p.s. If you are gathering complaints to make a formal complaint regarding the safety of that location, I'd see that as on par with pushing for a practical monopoly for Home Base and the parties thrown there, which I consider pretty much identical in every aspect spacewise (including stifling heat in the back rooms at all but the emptiest of parties, which appears to be your motivating concern). There aren't exactly a lot of choices on locations right now, especially for sub-4000 person events. This would be a completely different discussion for me if there were any options as far as permitable spaces besides Homebase, 85th and Baldwin, JJNewberry's and 2nd&Jackson. The last thing this scene needs right now is the pot calling the kettle black. On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: -&e->Here is a question that maybe some of you can answer: -&e-> -&e->Name the TOP 3 reasons why you wouldnt want to go to 2nd and Jackson? -&e->Please do not mention any production crews. This is not about about -&e->them in any way! Im making sure that if there are more then 20 -&e->complaints about safety it will help me out in a few gray areas! -&e->Thanks people!!! -&e-> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 18:30:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28916 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 18:30:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 28891 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 18:29:57 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 18:29:57 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01976 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990421113319.007f6bd0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:33:19 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: nrr: media coverage of shootings. In-Reply-To: <19990421175710.3751.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The media needs sensitivity training... or something. Who finds these people???? You should have at least some common sense and decency before the network hands you a mic and a cameraman. -Carly At 10:57 AM 4/21/99 -0700, SCiEnCe wrote: >This is the quote of the day. I'm sitting at home watching CNBC or >something and one of the Denver anchors is interviewing a cafeteria >worker who witnessed some of the massacre. She had just finished >recounting the story when the anchor asked: > >"So this wasn't your typical lunchtime, was it?" > >ARGH! > >-Science > > > > > > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 18:35:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4091 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 18:35:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 3957 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 18:35:49 -0000 Received: from pop05.iname.net (165.251.8.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 18:35:49 -0000 Received: from tar-and-gravel ([206.25.144.218]) by pop05.iname.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id OAA13183 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990421113314.03f84e00@shell4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:35:18 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: binary fineboy Subject: anyone doing Absolut focus group thingy? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey is anyone here doing that focus group thing today for Absolut? Im supposed to go at 4 but I lost the address and cant get ahold of Jeane. If anyone here is going can U privately email me the address? (I know its on pine st but I forget the building) thanks ryan ******** oooh baby .... you'll feel like the music sounds bettah wif me ******* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 18:42:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10156 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 18:42:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 10105 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 18:42:35 -0000 Received: from wya-oe13.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 18:42:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 8409 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 18:43:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421184321.8408.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.160.32.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:43:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.160.32.13] From: "Eric Vandenbroek" To: sfravers@hyperreal.org Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:43:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In regards to Andy W.'s commentary on this subject. I completly agree. I don't understand why you (the person who asked this question) wants negative feed back. Do you know how difficult it is to find good locations for the scene right now, and yet you are collecting evidence to I'm assuming close one down. Right, why don't you just go and make the whole s.f. scene dissapear while you are at it. I really hope the s.f. scene doesn't turn in to L.A. but at the rate it is going, and the greediness that is coming up. It's bound to fall. Anyway, before I start throwing too much of my opinions of the condition of the scene I will conclude this e-mail. Eric >From: AndyW >Reply-To: AndyW >To: Ravergrl27@aol.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:20:40 -0700 (PDT) > > >How about some reasons to use 2nd and Jackson (I personally don't love the >space all that much, but for someone who tends to be *positive*positive* >all the time, you're making quite an effort to make a negative mark here >Jeannie). > >1) It's smaller than HomeBase. Not every promoter can or wants to >throw an event at that scale. >2) It's permitable. >3) It's better than Newberry's. >4) Solid two room layout >5) The rafters are a dream to work with props, lasers, visuals and >lights-wise. >6) The people who manage the space are scene-savvy. >7) Central location. >8) It would be easy to evacuate in case of emergency. >9) Ample parking within a couple blocks. >10) Nearby restaurants for crew members who forget to eat until 9pm >when the party starts... so they can just sneak out and get a quick bite >to eat. >11) Convenient to get to (45 min from San Jo!). >12) The sun comes through the skylights in the morning (call me >sentimental). >13) Recently earthquake retrofitted with wall and roof supports (most >warehouses aren't). >14) Wayne actually went to a party there a few months ago and enjoyed >it! >15) The end of the ramp between the two rooms is the only time I've >pulled a successful ollie on a skateboard in years. >16) It's the only space I've ever played a three hour set at. :P > >Say what you want, say what you will. Can you come up with ONE REAL >difference between 2nd and Jackson and say... er... Homebase? > >Oh wait, your boyfriend uses Homebase for his parties! > >>>> Could we PLEASE quit the kneebiting towards other promoters? <<< > >In the end, it's another big building in a questionable neighborhood that >tends to get hot when you fill it chock full of dancing people, the same >type of building this scene has flourished in party after party for years. > >Because of insurance, permits, fire marshall walkthroughs, etc, it is by >definition safer by legal terms than any of the UG locations. I prefer it >to any other permittable location except one in Oakland (the space used >for that Beautiful People where we had Brian and Brad play). > >What is your point here? > >I'm sorry you felt faint as a result of the heat and humidity at Flower >Fest. To be honest, I have felt similarly at every major location sooner >or later... the answer is in fans and ventilation, but it's tough when >sound leakage is a concern (and did you know that fans actually INCREASE >ambient air temperature, so if you're not bringing in cool air, they >actually raise the temperature?). > >I hate to say this, but if you don't like it, don't go! > >Unity anyone? >AndyW > >(the views expressed by andyw are his and his alone, and do not reflect >the views of harmony, cloud factory, viberation, mutor sound system, nomad >interactive, the City of Oakland, Francis the Talking Mule, Vestax mixers, >JBL speakers, Ortofon cartridges, MIT, Studio 54, Saturn5, Juan Atkins the >Bringer of All Things Splendid Sounding or anybody else not named andyw). > >p.s. If you are gathering complaints to make a formal complaint regarding >the safety of that location, I'd see that as on par with pushing for a >practical monopoly for Home Base and the parties thrown there, which I >consider pretty much identical in every aspect spacewise (including >stifling heat in the back rooms at all but the emptiest of parties, which >appears to be your motivating concern). There aren't exactly a lot of >choices on locations right now, especially for sub-4000 person events. >This would be a completely different discussion for me if there were any >options as far as permitable spaces besides Homebase, 85th and Baldwin, >JJNewberry's and 2nd&Jackson. The last thing this scene needs right now is >the pot calling the kettle black. > > > >On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > >-&e->Here is a question that maybe some of you can answer: >-&e-> >-&e->Name the TOP 3 reasons why you wouldnt want to go to 2nd and Jackson? >-&e->Please do not mention any production crews. This is not about about >-&e->them in any way! Im making sure that if there are more then 20 >-&e->complaints about safety it will help me out in a few gray areas! >-&e->Thanks people!!! >-&e-> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 18:47:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14191 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 18:47:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 14171 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 18:47:18 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-3.pilot.net (HELO mail03-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 18:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail03-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id LAA26819 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:49:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id LAA18768 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 8825675A.00672A60 ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:46:50 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: AndyW Message-ID: <8825675A.006538D1.01@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:46:23 -0700 Subject: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a nice positive list, but it doesn't face the critical issues that could arrise if they are not tended to. When I say critical, I'm referring to how it affects a persons health or their life. Besides, how can the space managers been scene savy if they don't care about the well being of us? Earthquake retrofitting is about the only positive resolution here I see relevant to me. 1) It's smaller than HomeBase. Not every promoter can or wants to throw an event at that scale. 2) It's permitable. 3) It's better than Newberry's. 4) Solid two room layout 5) The rafters are a dream to work with props, lasers, visuals and lights-wise. 6) The people who manage the space are scene-savvy. 7) Central location. 8) It would be easy to evacuate in case of emergency. 9) Ample parking within a couple blocks. 10) Nearby restaurants for crew members who forget to eat until 9pm when the party starts... so they can just sneak out and get a quick bite to eat. 11) Convenient to get to (45 min from San Jo!). 12) The sun comes through the skylights in the morning (call me sentimental). 13) Recently earthquake retrofitted with wall and roof supports (most warehouses aren't). 14) Wayne actually went to a party there a few months ago and enjoyed it! 15) The end of the ramp between the two rooms is the only time I've pulled a successful ollie on a skateboard in years. 16) It's the only space I've ever played a three hour set at. :P >>> Could we PLEASE quit the kneebiting towards other promoters? <<< I think I started this thread in regards to my disproval of the venue, and in no way am I affiliated with any promoter.... give me a party thats got the party goer in mind and I'm there. ;In the end, it's another big building in a questionable neighborhood that ;tends to get hot when you fill it chock full of dancing people, the same ;type of building this scene has flourished in party after party for years. I would deffinately like to see your comparison of 2nd & Jackson to other venues that parties have been thrown in.... ;Because of insurance, permits, fire marshall walkthroughs, etc, it is by ;definition safer by legal terms than any of the UG locations. I prefer it ;to any other permittable location except one in Oakland (the space used ;for that Beautiful People where we had Brian and Brad play). You have got to be kidding me?!!!!!! ;I'm sorry you felt faint as a result of the heat and humidity at Flower ;Fest. To be honest, I have felt similarly at every major location sooner ;or later... the answer is in fans and ventilation, but it's tough when ;sound leakage is a concern (and did you know that fans actually INCREASE ;ambient air temperature, so if you're not bringing in cool air, they ;actually raise the temperature?). Ok, which is more important, a death in result of heat exuastion, or minor sound leakage. in Orlando Florida, the Clubs were plump full and I recall a few times the power went out and the cooling systems went down as well, as soon as the power went back up the cooling systems didn't, the heat in the club was beyond comfort, this cuased major complications later that evening as 4 people died. More and more people started dropping due to the lack of maintenance to assure proper ventilation, I can recall many times I've seen people leave on stretchers...and if not just drop dead. Mind you the results were due to not only the heat but to drugs as well, and in my own opinion, if these people (promoters) reallize that some people at the event will infact be under the influence, and don't plan or consider those possibilities then not only is the promoter responsible for that death, the owner of the venue is as well as the family and friends of the person that dies. And to be quite honost, I've felt 2nd $ Jackson reach those extreme tempuratures.... those tempuratures are beyond healthy, and I have never experienced them elswhere. ;I hate to say this, but if you don't like it, don't go! I didn't like, therefor did not go. ;Unity anyone? ;AndyW sure ;) ;(the views expressed by andyw are his and his alone, and do not reflect ;the views of harmony, cloud factory, viberation, mutor sound system, nomad ;interactive, the City of Oakland, Francis the Talking Mule, Vestax mixers, ;JBL speakers, Ortofon cartridges, MIT, Studio 54, Saturn5, Juan Atkins the ;Bringer of All Things Splendid Sounding or anybody else not named andyw). Interesting .... ;p.s. If you are gathering complaints to make a formal complaint regarding ;the safety of that location, I'd see that as on par with pushing for a ;practical monopoly for Home Base and the parties thrown there, which I ;consider pretty much identical in every aspect spacewise (including ;stifling heat in the back rooms at all but the emptiest of parties, which ;appears to be your motivating concern). There aren't exactly a lot of ;choices on locations right now, especially for sub-4000 person events. ;This would be a completely different discussion for me if there were any ;options as far as permitable spaces besides Homebase, 85th and Baldwin, ;JJNewberry's and 2nd&Jackson. The last thing this scene needs right now is ;the pot calling the kettle black. How can you say these are the only locations????? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 19:06:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27232 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 19:06:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 27029 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 19:06:31 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 19:06:31 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA21016; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA06365; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:04:30 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "SFRaves" , Subject: RE: T R A N Q U I L I T Y (think again) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:10:49 -0700 Message-ID: <000301be8c2a$aaa24970$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <95f57db1.244ee0a0@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is not a slam on Andrew but a serious concern over what this party proposes to do in our scene, as well as a response to some issues that were raised in his party's defense. 1. You can't compare this party to Pyramids in the Sky because it was an indoor party with location costs Tranquility is not. 2. You can't compare this party to the F-8 or Harmony outdoor parties because they were permited parties on private land with location costs Tranquility is none of these. 3. This has nothing to do with paying $$ to see talent. Personally if this party was an indoor party or on private land I would have no problem with paying $$ for it. 4. If this was a free party, I would have no problems in making a Voluntary Donation, especially if on was Requested. And if the party was worth it I might even pay more than expected to help them be able to throw more parties in the future. 5. This is not a personal attack on Andrew. I have heard his tape and I think he is a decent up and coming Trance DJ. I wish him luck, I just don't agree with charging $$ for an outdoor party on public lands. 6. Free outdoor parties have been happening long before you were in the scene (any scene) and hopefully they will continue. But parties like put future outdoor parties at risk. 7. If someone gets hurt at this party then Andrew can be sued for liability because he charged admission(not to mention the fines that he will incure for throwing an unpermited party, tresspassing, etc.) > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of AlexG1029@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 1:05 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: T R A N Q U I L I T Y ! ! ! > > > WARNING ! ! ! UNCENSORED BITCHIN BELOW ! ! ! > PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK ! ! ! > > okey now i havent been on the list for a few days and when i got back and > read this post i was pretty pissed off! i mean WTF is some > peoples problem? > like its already been said if u dont like the price dont go! i personally > know Anthony and know that he is NOT makin money on this > event....if he is > then its gonna be very little which will go towards improvin his future > parties for u guys....u got a problem with the lineup? no-name > djs scare u > away? umm this has been said before but does Pyramids In The Sky > ring a bell > to anybody? half of that parties djs were first-timers and i > swear i havent > heard better music played at a party yet (well xcept Nostrums > live set) and > how come nobody complains about F-8 or Harmony outdoor parties that cost > $10-15? do u guys just like attackin a new name in the scene? so > i guess what > im tryin to say is dont start dissin the party when u have no > idea where the > promoter is comin from! im gonna be at this party cuz i know it > will be dope > and if u think otherwise its your right....and your loss > sorry i had a bad day > > PeAcE OuT > alEx =.) > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 19:33:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21189 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 19:33:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 21175 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 19:33:53 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 19:33:53 -0000 Received: from FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com (14387) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQYYa15096 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:33:06 -0400 (EDT) From: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Message-ID: <97badfe.244f81e1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:32:49 EDT Subject: re: NRR shootings To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was listening to the news on the radio (in the car--what a *nerd*, eh?) and i heard about the shootings in Colorado. I heard the kids saying "those guys were freaks--we hated them!", etc, and it made my stomach churn to think how this is normal to our fucked up society--there's the whole *safety in numbers*, and everybody's always got to fit in, or they're nothing. These kids were really young, and acted (obviously) very irrationally. There has been so much media coverage on cases like this--the kids have all been like... angsty little 12 year olds! We need to be able to recognize kids with problems, and give them support. We can't just sit back and let this happen anymore! Why didn't anyone take their previous death threats seriously? (By the way, these kids had been warning people for a while that they were going to do this...) It's amazing that we sit here and let our society glamorize violence the way that it does. You see it on TV and all over the media. The war in Kosovo just adds to the problem! Just after the kids talked, it (the radio) jumped to a speech by President Clinton (I would throw a pie in his face if I could get close enough!!). He went off about how we need to teach our children that violence is bad and that it isn't the answer...*blah blah blah*... How can he sit there and say that, and still help NATO bomb Kosovo? What the hell is his problem? I don't know, it seemed as if he was going to try and blame it on these kids' families, or solely on the neighborhood or their school, but I'd say it's our stoopid nation! what the fuck? How did these kids get access to their little *artillery*? (I am also Pro-Gun Control, but since ridding the world of guns is un-realistic, I think that people who own guns should be more responsible as to where they store them, and who can have access to them.) Did you know that this small town outside of Denver is considered to be the "fastest growing suburb in Colorado"?? Do you realize that this means that people are probably moving their families here to escape the *violence* and chaos of a rural environment... *oh yeah, this is exactly the kind of place that I'd want to be raising my kids!* whatever. Grr... I'm just an angry kid today, huh? ;)~ Oh well, I'll get over it. **Sorry if my post was long and boring, but people need to look @ the posts on this list like we need to look @ media--you have a choice, excercise it--you don't need to sit there and read unless you really want to, and you can interperet what I say however you want... so everybody, stop getting mad when people post stuff!! geez, there's such a thing as a DELETE button! ;)~ freedom of speech man...Freedom of Speech! =) ~catrina~ p.s. The Millions for Mumia March is happening this Saturday from 10am to about 1 in the city!! ~~Everybody support this cause!!~~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 19:36:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22731 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 19:36:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 22707 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 19:36:01 -0000 Received: from f179.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 19:36:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 84830 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 19:40:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421194006.84829.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:40:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: my 420 review Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:40:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk huh??? aaron ps...one of my friends graduated on 4/20 this year..isnt that some shit....congrats cybrz... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 19:36:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23540 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 19:36:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 23531 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 19:36:51 -0000 Received: from law-f230.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 19:36:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 3400 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 19:36:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421193624.3399.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:36:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: nrr: media coverage of shootings. Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:36:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah! WTF? I heard a reporter asking one of the students some questions about the events of the day. One of the questions asked was "so what's this school like on a good day?" I'm thinking..."hmmmm....a good day is when all my friends aren't getting shot!"" Geez! IS our media brain dead?! Just a thought -John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 19:51:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6799 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 19:51:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 6781 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 19:51:55 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 19:51:55 -0000 Received: from Fine19boy@aol.com (3701) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCFBa18508; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:51:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Fine19boy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:50:39 EDT Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? To: Ravergrl27@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 15 Reply-To: Fine19boy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk reasons i wouldn't go to 2nd and jackson 1) poor ventilation. i'm skinny enough as it is i don't need to be sweatin off pounds while dancin 2) ghetto location. i have many friends who's cars have been towed, vandilized, or stolen from the neighborhood round there 3)the whole port-a-pottie deal. last time i went there it was raining and the front end flooded and some of the contents of the potties seemed to have leeked out :( yuk!! plus it makes the place reek if these things got taken care of then i would be coolio ~T From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 20:31:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7772 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 20:31:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 7758 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:31:37 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:31:37 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id NAA22043 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id NAA25617 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 8825675A.0070BC9B ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:31:23 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: Kevin Simonich Message-ID: <8825675A.006F9F05.01@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:30:58 -0700 Subject: Re: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To: Jason LEE/HQ/US/ADECCO cc: andy@saturn5.com Subject: Re: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson I can't start a list of available venues, I'm not a promoter or throw parties. But I can assure of all the buildings I see in the entire Bay Area, I'm sure there's countless opportunites for one of those if not more to be a completely sweet and prime location for both the party goer and promoter alike. If the promoter has us in mind, he would take the time and energy and check out different possibilites, consult with various building managers, and scope tons of different locations based on what their party needs. My opinion, promoters just take the easy way out, use a location "THAT everyone knows" which is benificial for the promoter and the party goer. Use a location becuase that location has been used for that purpose befor.... which means to the promoter "easy". I'm sorry, even though I've never thrown a party of more than 100 people in size, I do know that throwing a party is not easy and if they are truly doing it for the love of the scene and the people, they will work their ass off to find the best location..... its not about Great Talent, Great sound, it's not about Great Theme's or Props and it's sure not about Great location..... at least in today's party terms, it's maybe one of the three, if a Promoter can pull all three together, then thats a person that loves it fully and it surely would show. Jason ;OK, name some others that are sized for 1000-2000 people events, can have ;legally permitted all-hours all-ages parties? There WAS Maritime, but I ;dunno that it's a viable spot any more. So, what are YOUR suggestions ;for other completely legal party locations that fit the criteria? Given ;the apparent lack of such, I'm sure more people than me'd love to hear 'em... ;-Opus ;P.S. I am not actually all THAT fond of 2nd & J myself, overall. I just ;don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some other people seem to think, ;and I'd hate to see yet another of the dwindling locales get lost... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 20:34:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9057 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 20:34:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 9030 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:34:03 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:34:03 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14396) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rQUCa02599; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:30:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <8a0c9921.244f8f59@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:30:17 EDT Subject: Re: Blink 182 To: montereypat@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk nononono GAK! I'm sorry I realize I didn't clarify what I was getting at and why... my rant about punk rock and the list was founded from the number of upcoming concert mailings and punk rock concert reviews that sprang up...I found your point completely valid, and did in fact reply as such initially...I was simply pointing out that I wasn't sure of the significance of 6 or 7 emails to the list about NOFX concerts and things like that....sorry friend, didn't mean to clutter up the issue any more... -spacey In a message dated 4-21-99 9:47:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, montereypat@yahoo.com writes: > Well, it was in MY humble opinion that the people on SFRave had a > common link toward a life style. A style which involves the > expression of individuality and wasn't geared toward any musical > genre. I believe that there is at least a jungle mailing list and > would assume that there are other genres for the Bay Area. Should > those genres be exclude also because they have their own list? I > thought the list was just a general area where those who live a > "raver" life style (whatever that may be defined as) could discus and > post various happenings in their life. If we are suppose to exclude > anything that has its own list or is not directly related to some > generic definition of raving or doesn't pertain to everyone on the > list, there would be much left to read. We would have have to exclude > anything pertaining to the following list: > 1. drug use > 2. sexual preference > 3. specific music genres > 4. last night CNN special > 5. movies to see > 6. funny jokes > 7. who's really bored at work > 8. who needs a new apartment or moving > 9. who died > Get the picture? These are all part of the larger picture. They may > not all pertain to any one person but some might and so they are part > of scene. A scene which embraces expression of individuality. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 20:40:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15666 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 20:40:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 15448 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:40:36 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:40:36 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (14375) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xARJa19331; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:38:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <86ef2148.244f912c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:38:04 EDT Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? To: andy@saturn5.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/21/99 11:20:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, andy@saturn5.com writes: << How about some reasons to use 2nd and Jackson (I personally don't love the space all that much, but for someone who tends to be *positive*positive* all the time, you're making quite an effort to make a negative mark here Jeannie). >> Andy, For you to say IM not being positive is taking it a little to far. You may think that your answers are valid and you know what my intentions are, but you actually don't! IM a positive person with a positive reason behind the madness! In no way am I making a negative mark here on this list. I respect the people behind this list and the people who subscribe! IM making an effort that will effect us all in a positive way! You don't seem to understand why IM doing this and you will if I can make some things happen towards a positive move when it comes to 2nd and Jackson! Things can be done to make that place even better for the promoters as well as the ravers!! 1) It's smaller than HomeBase. Not every promoter can or wants to throw an event at that scale. This is true and IM not here to talk about homebase. This has nothing to do with why IM talking about 2nd and Jackson. Also to let you know homebase doesn't have to be a large scale event! Its a matter of what the promoter wants and the rooms they wants to use!!! 8) It would be easy to evacuate in case of emergency. I beg to differ on this one!! 9) Ample parking within a couple blocks. 10) Nearby restaurants for crew members who forget to eat until 9pm when the party starts... so they can just sneak out and get a quick bite to eat. 14) Wayne actually went to a party there a few months ago and enjoyed it! IM glad Wayne had a great time! =) 15) The end of the ramp between the two rooms is the only time I've pulled a successful ollie on a skateboard in years. 16) It's the only space I've ever played a three hour set at. :P Wonderful.. IM glad you pulled it off!! =) You will have to show me your talents! =P >>Say what you want, say what you will. Can you come up with ONE REAL difference between 2nd and Jackson and say... er... Homebase?>> Well, yeah... I could go on and on but what IM going to say is that there is no comparison to the both of them. One being that there is always somewhere you can go to get some fresh air and the bathrooms are outside and not next to someone dancing while the heat raises to temperatures beyond sitifing! That's a GERM FEST! >>Oh wait, your boyfriend uses Homebase for his parties!>> OK, Here we go again!!! I don't give a rats ass if IM Vlads girl or not!!! This has nothing to do with Homebase nor me being Vlads girl! I don't care if Vlad uses homebase or any other location.. If he was to use 2nd and Jackson I would bitch, bitch, bitch about it, and would talk me out of it! Or I would come in there and take care of Stacy's problem myself... You know Andy, it goes a lot further then you think and it comes right down to the safety issue. Maybe why you are spinning and talking to your buddies you cant see what really is going on.. IM not going to walk around with a blindfold over my eyes. I spend a HUGE portion of me time picking up bodies and helping people that are pucking their guts out and taking them to the medics. I see things that are very wrong and simple things that can make a huge difference! If you think I can bitch about 2nd and Jackson don't you think I bitch even more when it comes to my own events! The simple fact is that I CARE!!! I hope you truly see that!! This has nothing to do with the politics of What you so seem to think I am trying to do. If you think IM talking about anything other then the truth at hand, IM sorry you cant see beyond that!! >>> Could we PLEASE quit the kneebiting towards other promoters? <<< OK if you say so!!! I dot think I have seen any one of the promoters knees yet? But if you want me to I would love too! =P j/k I know what you are saying and by no means am I coming down on any promoters. I love them all! I have to love someone that has the same visions as I have had for YEARS now. I wish ALWAYS the best for them and what they want to achieve. If their HEARTS are in it for the right reasons. I have NEVER once said something Negative towards another promoter when it comes to what they see and want out of their accomplishments! YOU SOMETIMES HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS WHEN IT COME TO THE PEOPLE WHO THROW PARTIES! I know Vlad and I want only the best for everyone. That's why we try so hard to make things right! I hope you can see that..The unity of the people is very important to us. We only want this scene to flourish and grow with the understanding and support that everyone see things in the right frame of mind.. >>Because of insurance, permits, fire marshall walkthroughs, etc, it is by definition safer by legal terms than any of the UG locations. I prefer it to any other permittable location except one in Oakland >> I do have some issue about this and they are not all my own but a lot of what I see is not right! You need to know that I know a lot about the issues that you do not have access to and IM doing the right thing by saying something and making sure my voice is heard publicly! If you think that IM hear for some other motive then my friend you are wrong! I know all about some serious issues that are going on with RAVES right now politicly and behind the scene. So you need to know that IM here and talking for many other reasons then what you may think IM here for...Just make sure you realize that IM trying to make some impact for the better of us all!! >>I'm sorry you felt faint as a result of the heat and humidity at Flower Fest. To be honest, I have felt similarly at every major location sooner or later... the answer is in fans and ventilation, but it's tough when sound leakage is a concern (and did you know that fans actually INCREASE ambient air temperature, so if you're not bringing in cool air, they actually raise the temperature?).>> Don't feel sorry for me that I felt faint, feel sorry for the hundreds of people who have passed out and puck for the years because of it. I know you may not see what I see most of the time but something is going to change and if I can speak on behalf of the bodies I carry out of their then who will? You need to know why IM trying to at least do something. I least I have the balls to try and make a difference and if people like you don't support it then I question you? I don't want something horrible to happen ANDY! Cant you see why IM speaking out? We are treading on thin water here and IM just one of the many who are trying to may things happen in a positive way. >>!I hate to say this, but if you don't like it, don't go!>> How unfair of a question is that? Me not go to a party that I like and support? No way!! Do you think its fair to have to spend money and not be able to enjoy it. I wanted to say and have a Wonderful time with people I love and enjoy, but under the circumstances it was not just me that was feeling this way! It was at least 20 people that were pucking and getting sick from it why I was there? Go figure! How many others did this happen to when I left? Those are HUGE numbers ANDY! So are you going to say that to the hundreds of people that this happens to? By that time there would be no one! Unstead of saying don't go then, Why cant you say (what can we a least do to TRY and make it better!) If that is the answer to your reasoning, then I think it sucks, because I know things with just a some small amount of effort can make all the difference in the world! To end this long letter. I think 2nd and Jackson can be better and will be better! With people like me out there looking out for everyone involve it can only get better, but I cant see why some of you tend to bend and make things out to be other then what they are! The truth shall set you free! I only want the best for all of us and the way things are heading there will be no more parties! If you think that IM being other than making things right then you are wrong! IM here for only one reason and that is to make things as positive as possible for us in the LONG RUN. There is always a negative to all things but the positive shall over come! IM sorry that you think My efforts are only negative! I hope you know why IM going out of my way to try and make some positivity out of all the negative things that surround our scene! If you don't think I have LOVE for the scene then you don't even know me! After all this is Cyberspace and not face to face!!! >>p.s. If you are gathering complaints to make a formal complaint regarding the safety of that location>>>, I'd see that as on par with pushing for a practical monopoly for Home Base and the parties thrown there. What I was doing Andy was making sure that its not just me that's feels this way. From the 30 letters I have just received its not my own opinion and many others! IM sure that I have received a lot more why IM taking up my time today writing you! >>consider pretty much identical in every aspect spacewise (including stifling heat in the back rooms at all but the emptiest of parties, which appears to be your motivating concern). >> Now Andy ... Come on please!! >>There aren't exactly a lot of choices on locations right now, especially for sub-4000 person events. This would be a completely different discussion for me if there were any options as far as permitable spaces besides Homebase, 85th and Baldwin, JJNewberry's and 2nd&Jackson. The last thing this scene needs right now is the pot calling the kettle black>>. There are many options one has, but it takes time to put your heart into it. Its all a matter of who really want to spend the time looking for a good space. Even the police say there are a lot and don't understand why promoter don't try. I guess its just to easy for some not to make a change. By the way IM not here to promote homebase in anyway. That's not my job ANDY! My job goes much deeper then you think. IM not here to say I have all the answer because I don't, but IM at least trying to make a difference! Just like you Andy, you are here for reason to be a part of the scene, and so am I . I don't get up in front of a crowd and spin records I do that in my living room... =P We all play a huge part of this scene and IM not invalid when it comes to my ROLE... I hope you see that! If you have any comments please make them private from this point... No one wants to hear us go on and on. My motives here are plain and simple! To care and love and nourish something I have giving my life too! Thank you for your comments and the positive things you had to say about 2nd and Jackson. Those don't go unnoticed.. Love, Jeannie P.S. Sorry for any typos.. Andy has drained me for the day!!!! =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 20:45:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19077 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 20:45:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 19035 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:45:42 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:45:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 1530 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:45:40 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:45:40 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station198.thegrid.net [209.162.3.198]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02109; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371CE6D9.2B2BB5BA@thegrid.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:43:05 -0700 From: BreakBeat X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BodhiInSF@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: H/Sshooting:Somt'ngsWrongWithWilliamBennit'sAmerica References: <3fbad194.244f22ba@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > 4/20- Adolf Hitler's Birthday--- The day after the Waco massacre--- And now > the Littleton, Colorado High School massacre to add to the list of not so > positive things that happened on 4/20! > 4/20 also happens to be 2 days after my oldest nephew's birthday and just 8 days before my other nephews birthday, so I think it's pretty positive but still I think you have a point. Prolly back a hundred years ago April 20th was just your average sort of karma day, then when Hitler was born on it and when he became a tyrant April 20th became invested with bad karma. These bad vibes were so terrible that even afterwards when we invented the slang 4:20 all the cosmically good vibes from cannabis couldn't totally rub out Hitlers negativity. So now, even though it is mostly full of good karma, thus it's relationship with the birth of my two nephews, occasionaly the dark side of April 20th leaks out and we have a massacre. *smiles* symmetry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 20:46:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19840 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 20:46:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 19819 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:46:27 -0000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (205.134.253.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:46:26 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok08--197.sirius.net [205.134.245.197]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA67198; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <018301be8c33$a8ced2e0$c5f586cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "birwin" Subject: Relevant Crossdress Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:15:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk errrrrr........... I mean cross POST. >From a completely unrelated emaillist. titled "The Headlines" The news is appalling! The headlines, the sound bites, the photos, the testimonials from all over the world; all are very disturbing. It seems to me it's inappropriate to quip about the ugliness and more appropriate to resolve to improve our various conditions. That's why I subscribe to this list; not to escape but to build a little better community if I am able, to contribute something if possible. Hopefully to lead by example; you be the judge. May peace be with you and yours. Tom Woods From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 20:49:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22231 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 20:49:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 22210 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:48:58 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:48:58 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (2722) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPKKa09145 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:45:41 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <7161751d.244f92f4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:45:40 EDT Subject: Review of 420 - Thank you!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I want to thank everyone that came out to the 420 party in San Jose yesterday! I had such a great time with all of you. The people we had out there were so positive and fun! The music was great and (hopefully) everyone had a great time. Thanks again to everyone that came out to spin, and all of you who brought food and smiles, and thanks most of all to Stephen and Mike for letting us hang out at your house all day!! We must do this again!! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 20:51:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24455 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 20:51:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 24304 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:51:30 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:51:30 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com (14415) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3PQTa26761 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:50:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:50:10 EDT Subject: a good party place.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, ive only been to one party here, and they've only had 2, but it seems to be a really good location for parties, smaller parties. its the phoenix in petaluma. its pretty clean, and is has real bathrooms. it didnt get too hot when i was there, and there is an accessable water fountain. imo i think promoters should have more parties there! the parties that were held there we sparkle, and beautiful people in january. trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 20:54:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26789 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 20:54:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 26751 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:54:35 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:54:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421205342.23451.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.16] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:53:42 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:53:42 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: my opinion on circles... and more To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "fucking annoying," leslie? unusual vocabulary from such a well-spoken person. i agree to everything leslie wrote though. being at a party is a personnal experience, rather than a group experience. if you want to make if fun for yourself, than you'll have fun. i have also noticed that people having fun tend to draw people to them - e.g., if i see somebody really into the music then i'll start dancing next to them and get more easily into the music myself. a party is what you make of it. stop bitching and think positive. loic --- leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > yeah, like you haven't heard this before. > > max, i am also on the list and anti-circle-voters > with you.... circles are > bizarre to me.... i just do not get it. > > if someone loved to dance.. wouldn't they want to be > dancing? let's see... > one person dancing..... 30 people watching. you do > the math. that's 2 > minutes of dancing in an hour. huh? > > plus the traffic jam factor is fucking annoying... > every time i hit a > bottleneck saturday night at harmony, i came to > realize it was caused by a > nearby circle. and circles in *front* of a dj?? > please, kiddies, have some > respect. circles belong in the BACK CORNER of a > room... get some dancefloor > etiquette. > > and to the person who left the party in 45 > minutes... a word of advice from > someone who's been at hundreds of parties over the > years.... and many times > had to "wait out my frustration" as it were.... > sometimes you're just not in > the mood, and nothing is going to put you in the > mood... except maybe a > positive attitude, a little patience, and some > attention to understanding > yourself a bit. > > whenever i think a party "sucks" .... i remind > myself that it's about music > and dancing, and i look for the problem with *me*... > if i'm feeling hot, i > find a cooler spot (and there were MANY there > saturday)... if i'm not > digging that music, i move to another room (there > were three, you know)... > and if i'm feeling irritable with a group of friends > i'm hanging with or i > don't really like the kind of people who are there > also... i move and dance > alone for a bit, and remind myself it's about the > music and the chance to > dance. > > one rule i've made for myself is to *never* complain > about the party while > i'm there... while i'm there, my mission is to have > a good time, and not > bitch about stuff... because bitching affects me and > everyone around me (ok, > ok, i know sometimes i bitch anyway, but i still > made a rule, and i'm > working on it!) > > and if i do decide to leave, i know it's because > that just wasn't hitting > the spot for me... not becuaes the party sucked, but > because it wasn't what > i wanted to be doing right then. > > cuz life IS what we make of it, you know.... > > leslie > > > > > > Get your free, private email at > http://mail.excite.com/ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:02:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2013 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:02:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 2002 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:02:29 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:02:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 3364 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:02:28 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:02:28 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station198.thegrid.net [209.162.3.198]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24125; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371CEAC9.C354032@thegrid.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:59:54 -0700 From: BreakBeat X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Seaton , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Blink 182 References: <19990421164829.9735.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, well this is a perfect example of why we have that NRR: thing. That way my nifty filters can weed out all the stuff pertaining to 4-8 on your list =:) symmetry Patrick Seaton wrote: We would have have to exclude > anything pertaining to the following list: > 1. drug use > 2. sexual preference > 3. specific music genres > 4. last night CNN special > 5. movies to see > 6. funny jokes > 7. who's really bored at work > 8. who needs a new apartment or moving > 9. who died > Get the picture? These are all part of the larger picture. They may > not all pertain to any one person but some might and so they are part > of scene. A scene which embraces expression of individuality. > > *HUGZ* > pat > > --- Anachra@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > > From: Anachra@aol.com > > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:34:49 EDT > > Subject: Re: Blink 182 > > To: NEXXUS19@aol.com > > Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com > > > > mmk I wasn't gonna go here, but really....this is > > sfRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVES > > there are punk mailing lists comin out the > > wahoo...this stuff belongs on > > them, in MY opinion....dont get me wrong, I love > > punk as much if not more > > than the next person...it's my big music genre..well > > emo, but whatever...but > > still...it has its place...which jsut happens to be > > someplace OTHER than the > > sfraves list (: > > spacey > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:16:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12457 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:16:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12433 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:16:20 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd106.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.170) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:16:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 55773 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 21:15:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421211553.55772.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.160.32.11 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:15:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.160.32.11] From: "Eric Vandenbroek" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:15:53 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Locations are extremly hard to come by, that is why the parties have only been existing in a handfull of locations. I don't know how you can sit there and think that there are places readily available for a party, because they don't exist. Eric >From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com >To: Kevin Simonich >Subject: Re: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:30:58 -0700 > > > > > >To: Jason LEE/HQ/US/ADECCO >cc: andy@saturn5.com >Subject: Re: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson > > > > > >I can't start a list of available venues, I'm not a promoter or throw >parties. >But I can assure of all the buildings I see in the entire Bay Area, I'm >sure there's >countless opportunites for one of those if not more to be a completely >sweet and prime >location for both the party goer and promoter alike. If the promoter has >us in mind, he >would take the time and energy and check out different possibilites, >consult with various >building managers, and scope tons of different locations based on what >their party needs. > >My opinion, promoters just take the easy way out, use a location "THAT >everyone knows" which is >benificial for the promoter and the party goer. Use a location becuase >that location has been >used for that purpose befor.... which means to the promoter "easy". I'm >sorry, even though I've >never thrown a party of more than 100 people in size, I do know that >throwing a party is not easy >and if they are truly doing it for the love of the scene and the people, >they will work their ass >off to find the best location..... its not about Great Talent, Great sound, >it's not about Great Theme's or Props >and it's sure not about Great location..... at least in today's party >terms, it's maybe one of the three, > >if a Promoter can pull all three together, then thats a person that loves >it fully and it surely would show. > >Jason > > >;OK, name some others that are sized for 1000-2000 people events, can have >;legally permitted all-hours all-ages parties? There WAS Maritime, but I >;dunno that it's a viable spot any more. So, what are YOUR suggestions >;for other completely legal party locations that fit the criteria? Given >;the apparent lack of such, I'm sure more people than me'd love to hear >'em... > > > >;-Opus > > >;P.S. I am not actually all THAT fond of 2nd & J myself, overall. I just >;don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some other people seem to think, >;and I'd hate to see yet another of the dwindling locales get lost... > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:19:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13768 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:19:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 13736 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:18:59 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:18:59 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (324) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vINZa09416; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <36b65441.244f9a62@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:17:22 EDT Subject: Re: Harmonious Flowers in Full Bloom ...(my review) To: MIB271@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oooh god i know!!!!!!!!!! go to the back god damn it!!!!!! that used to always piss me off at concerts too cuz all these people would be right up by the stage(usually really tall people too, damn being short) and they would just stand there, not even a smile on their face. i don't get it!!! alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:20:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16048 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:20:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 15837 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:20:20 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:20:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 5382 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:20:18 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:20:18 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station198.thegrid.net [209.162.3.198]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA19216; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371CEEF7.84858FBD@thegrid.net> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:17:43 -0700 From: BreakBeat X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Vandenbroek , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? References: <19990421184321.8408.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Quick Question, I went to I believe it was a warmth party, someones birthday like a year back, it was a small party prolly only around 500 ppl, but it was at a good lil warehouse loaction somewhere off army street. Anyone know the place i'm talking about? Or why I've never heard about another party there? symmetry Eric Vandenbroek wrote: > In regards to Andy W.'s commentary on this subject. I completly > agree. I don't understand why you (the person who asked this > question) wants negative feed back. Do you know how difficult it is > to find good locations for the scene right now, and yet you are > collecting evidence to I'm assuming close one down. Right, why don't > you just go and make the whole s.f. scene dissapear while you are at > it. I really hope the s.f. scene doesn't turn in to L.A. but at the > rate it is going, and the greediness that is coming up. It's bound > to fall. Anyway, before I start throwing too much of my opinions of > the condition of the scene I will conclude this e-mail. > > Eric > > >From: AndyW > >Reply-To: AndyW > >To: Ravergrl27@aol.com > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? > >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:20:40 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >How about some reasons to use 2nd and Jackson (I personally don't > love the > >space all that much, but for someone who tends to be > *positive*positive* > >all the time, you're making quite an effort to make a negative mark > here > >Jeannie). > > > >1) It's smaller than HomeBase. Not every promoter can or wants > to > >throw an event at that scale. > >2) It's permitable. > >3) It's better than Newberry's. > >4) Solid two room layout > >5) The rafters are a dream to work with props, lasers, visuals > and > >lights-wise. > >6) The people who manage the space are scene-savvy. > >7) Central location. > >8) It would be easy to evacuate in case of emergency. > >9) Ample parking within a couple blocks. > >10) Nearby restaurants for crew members who forget to eat until > 9pm > >when the party starts... so they can just sneak out and get a quick > bite > >to eat. > >11) Convenient to get to (45 min from San Jo!). > >12) The sun comes through the skylights in the morning (call me > >sentimental). > >13) Recently earthquake retrofitted with wall and roof supports > (most > >warehouses aren't). > >14) Wayne actually went to a party there a few months ago and > enjoyed > >it! > >15) The end of the ramp between the two rooms is the only time > I've > >pulled a successful ollie on a skateboard in years. > >16) It's the only space I've ever played a three hour set at. :P > > > >Say what you want, say what you will. Can you come up with ONE REAL > >difference between 2nd and Jackson and say... er... Homebase? > > > >Oh wait, your boyfriend uses Homebase for his parties! > > > >>>> Could we PLEASE quit the kneebiting towards other promoters? <<< > > > >In the end, it's another big building in a questionable neighborhood > that > >tends to get hot when you fill it chock full of dancing people, the > same > >type of building this scene has flourished in party after party for > years. > > > >Because of insurance, permits, fire marshall walkthroughs, etc, it > is by > >definition safer by legal terms than any of the UG locations. I > prefer it > >to any other permittable location except one in Oakland (the space > used > >for that Beautiful People where we had Brian and Brad play). > > > >What is your point here? > > > >I'm sorry you felt faint as a result of the heat and humidity at > Flower > >Fest. To be honest, I have felt similarly at every major location > sooner > >or later... the answer is in fans and ventilation, but it's tough > when > >sound leakage is a concern (and did you know that fans actually > INCREASE > >ambient air temperature, so if you're not bringing in cool air, they > >actually raise the temperature?). > > > >I hate to say this, but if you don't like it, don't go! > > > >Unity anyone? > >AndyW > > > >(the views expressed by andyw are his and his alone, and do not > reflect > >the views of harmony, cloud factory, viberation, mutor sound system, > nomad > >interactive, the City of Oakland, Francis the Talking Mule, Vestax > mixers, > >JBL speakers, Ortofon cartridges, MIT, Studio 54, Saturn5, Juan > Atkins the > >Bringer of All Things Splendid Sounding or anybody else not named > andyw). > > > >p.s. If you are gathering complaints to make a formal complaint > regarding > >the safety of that location, I'd see that as on par with pushing for > a > >practical monopoly for Home Base and the parties thrown there, which > I > >consider pretty much identical in every aspect spacewise (including > >stifling heat in the back rooms at all but the emptiest of parties, > which > >appears to be your motivating concern). There aren't exactly a lot of > >choices on locations right now, especially for sub-4000 person > events. > >This would be a completely different discussion for me if there were > any > >options as far as permitable spaces besides Homebase, 85th and > Baldwin, > >JJNewberry's and 2nd&Jackson. The last thing this scene needs right > now is > >the pot calling the kettle black. > > > > > > > >On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > > > >-&e->Here is a question that maybe some of you can answer: > >-&e-> > >-&e->Name the TOP 3 reasons why you wouldnt want to go to 2nd and > Jackson? > >-&e->Please do not mention any production crews. This is not about > about > >-&e->them in any way! Im making sure that if there are more then 20 > >-&e->complaints about safety it will help me out in a few gray areas! > >-&e->Thanks people!!! > >-&e-> > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:40:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28314 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:39:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 28255 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:39:55 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:39:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421214431.25870.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:31 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? To: BreakBeat , Eric Vandenbroek , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What about the place where IDM, Sol Rotation, and Genesis were held? In SF, IDM was probably around 1500 people, and Genesis was no more than 150. Its versatile, for all size parties, does anyone know why it isnt used? Jessica --- BreakBeat wrote: > Quick Question, I went to I believe it was a warmth > party, someones > birthday like a year back, it was a small party > prolly only around 500 > ppl, but it was at a good lil warehouse loaction > somewhere off army > street. Anyone know the place i'm talking about? Or > why I've never heard > about another party there? > > symmetry > > Eric Vandenbroek wrote: > > > In regards to Andy W.'s commentary on this > subject. I completly > > agree. I don't understand why you (the person who > asked this > > question) wants negative feed back. Do you know > how difficult it is > > to find good locations for the scene right now, > and yet you are > > collecting evidence to I'm assuming close one > down. Right, why don't > > you just go and make the whole s.f. scene > dissapear while you are at > > it. I really hope the s.f. scene doesn't turn in > to L.A. but at the > > rate it is going, and the greediness that is > coming up. It's bound > > to fall. Anyway, before I start throwing too much > of my opinions of > > the condition of the scene I will conclude this > e-mail. > > > > Eric > > > > >From: AndyW > > >Reply-To: AndyW > > >To: Ravergrl27@aol.com > > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > >Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? > > >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:20:40 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > >How about some reasons to use 2nd and Jackson (I > personally don't > > love the > > >space all that much, but for someone who tends to > be > > *positive*positive* > > >all the time, you're making quite an effort to > make a negative mark > > here > > >Jeannie). > > > > > >1) It's smaller than HomeBase. Not every > promoter can or wants > > to > > >throw an event at that scale. > > >2) It's permitable. > > >3) It's better than Newberry's. > > >4) Solid two room layout > > >5) The rafters are a dream to work with > props, lasers, visuals > > and > > >lights-wise. > > >6) The people who manage the space are > scene-savvy. > > >7) Central location. > > >8) It would be easy to evacuate in case of > emergency. > > >9) Ample parking within a couple blocks. > > >10) Nearby restaurants for crew members who > forget to eat until > > 9pm > > >when the party starts... so they can just sneak > out and get a quick > > bite > > >to eat. > > >11) Convenient to get to (45 min from San > Jo!). > > >12) The sun comes through the skylights in the > morning (call me > > >sentimental). > > >13) Recently earthquake retrofitted with wall > and roof supports > > (most > > >warehouses aren't). > > >14) Wayne actually went to a party there a few > months ago and > > enjoyed > > >it! > > >15) The end of the ramp between the two rooms > is the only time > > I've > > >pulled a successful ollie on a skateboard in > years. > > >16) It's the only space I've ever played a > three hour set at. :P > > > > > >Say what you want, say what you will. Can you > come up with ONE REAL > > >difference between 2nd and Jackson and say... > er... Homebase? > > > > > >Oh wait, your boyfriend uses Homebase for his > parties! > > > > > >>>> Could we PLEASE quit the kneebiting towards > other promoters? <<< > > > > > >In the end, it's another big building in a > questionable neighborhood > > that > > >tends to get hot when you fill it chock full of > dancing people, the > > same > > >type of building this scene has flourished in > party after party for > > years. > > > > > >Because of insurance, permits, fire marshall > walkthroughs, etc, it > > is by > > >definition safer by legal terms than any of the > UG locations. I > > prefer it > > >to any other permittable location except one in > Oakland (the space > > used > > >for that Beautiful People where we had Brian and > Brad play). > > > > > >What is your point here? > > > > > >I'm sorry you felt faint as a result of the heat > and humidity at > > Flower > > >Fest. To be honest, I have felt similarly at > every major location > > sooner > > >or later... the answer is in fans and > ventilation, but it's tough > > when > > >sound leakage is a concern (and did you know that > fans actually > > INCREASE > > >ambient air temperature, so if you're not > bringing in cool air, they > > >actually raise the temperature?). > > > > > >I hate to say this, but if you don't like it, > don't go! > > > > > >Unity anyone? > > >AndyW > > > > > >(the views expressed by andyw are his and his > alone, and do not > > reflect > > >the views of harmony, cloud factory, viberation, > mutor sound system, > > nomad > > >interactive, the City of Oakland, Francis the > Talking Mule, Vestax > > mixers, > > >JBL speakers, Ortofon cartridges, MIT, Studio 54, > Saturn5, Juan > > Atkins the > > >Bringer of All Things Splendid Sounding or > anybody else not named > > andyw). > > > > > >p.s. If you are gathering complaints to make a > formal complaint > > regarding > > >the safety of that location, I'd see that as on > par with pushing for > > a > > >practical monopoly for Home Base and the parties > thrown there, which > > I > > >consider pretty much identical in every aspect > spacewise (including > > >stifling heat in the back rooms at all but the > emptiest of parties, > > which > > >appears to be your motivating concern). There > aren't exactly a lot of > > >choices on locations right now, especially for > sub-4000 person > > events. > > >This would be a completely different discussion > for me if there were > > any > > >options as far as permitable spaces besides > Homebase, 85th and > > Baldwin, > > >JJNewberry's and 2nd&Jackson. The last thing this > scene needs right > === message truncated === From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:45:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2282 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:45:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 2262 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:45:08 -0000 Received: from law-f142.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:45:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 27868 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 21:44:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421214441.27867.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.212.207 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.212.207] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: possible spot? Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was at this great little party a few years back at an artist community(I believe) called Cell or Cells. The name of the party was Cell-sius. From what I understand they will have parties there once in a while if it's for a benefit, like food for the homeless. It's in San Francisco and God knows where it's at cause I don't remember. It's a semi-small but hella sweet location. It would be great for a starup or few hundred people location. Did anyone else ever go there? Maybe it doesn't exist anymore. Just trying to help. Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) "Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb"-Dark Helmet(Spaceballs the Movie) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:45:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2977 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:45:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 2943 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:45:35 -0000 Received: from f138.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:45:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 23687 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 21:44:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421214449.23686.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, BreakBeat@thegrid.net, akbal_8@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Simple: It is not permitable Sol rotation had a Special film permit and even then the cops gave them shit. It is really fifty fifty with that place it may go all night or it may not. People that have had events there that lasted all night had connections of some sort. In addtion to that the space is 5 grand to rent and is not bust proof. Very nice location but not worth the risk if it cant go all night. Peaces, Macadio >From: Jess ica >To: BreakBeat , Eric Vandenbroek ,sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:31 -0700 (PDT) > >What about the place where IDM, Sol Rotation, and Genesis were held? >In SF, IDM was probably around 1500 people, and Genesis was no more >than 150. Its versatile, for all size parties, does anyone know why it >isnt used? > >Jessica > >--- BreakBeat wrote: >> Quick Question, I went to I believe it was a warmth >> party, someones >> birthday like a year back, it was a small party >> prolly only around 500 >> ppl, but it was at a good lil warehouse loaction >> somewhere off army >> street. Anyone know the place i'm talking about? Or >> why I've never heard >> about another party there? >> >> symmetry >> >> Eric Vandenbroek wrote: >> >> > In regards to Andy W.'s commentary on this >> subject. I completly >> > agree. I don't understand why you (the person who >> asked this >> > question) wants negative feed back. Do you know >> how difficult it is >> > to find good locations for the scene right now, >> and yet you are >> > collecting evidence to I'm assuming close one >> down. Right, why don't >> > you just go and make the whole s.f. scene >> dissapear while you are at >> > it. I really hope the s.f. scene doesn't turn in >> to L.A. but at the >> > rate it is going, and the greediness that is >> coming up. It's bound >> > to fall. Anyway, before I start throwing too much >> of my opinions of >> > the condition of the scene I will conclude this >> e-mail. >> > >> > Eric >> > >> > >From: AndyW >> > >Reply-To: AndyW >> > >To: Ravergrl27@aol.com >> > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> > >Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? >> > >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:20:40 -0700 (PDT) >> > > >> > > >> > >How about some reasons to use 2nd and Jackson (I >> personally don't >> > love the >> > >space all that much, but for someone who tends to >> be >> > *positive*positive* >> > >all the time, you're making quite an effort to >> make a negative mark >> > here >> > >Jeannie). >> > > >> > >1) It's smaller than HomeBase. Not every >> promoter can or wants >> > to >> > >throw an event at that scale. >> > >2) It's permitable. >> > >3) It's better than Newberry's. >> > >4) Solid two room layout >> > >5) The rafters are a dream to work with >> props, lasers, visuals >> > and >> > >lights-wise. >> > >6) The people who manage the space are >> scene-savvy. >> > >7) Central location. >> > >8) It would be easy to evacuate in case of >> emergency. >> > >9) Ample parking within a couple blocks. >> > >10) Nearby restaurants for crew members who >> forget to eat until >> > 9pm >> > >when the party starts... so they can just sneak >> out and get a quick >> > bite >> > >to eat. >> > >11) Convenient to get to (45 min from San >> Jo!). >> > >12) The sun comes through the skylights in the >> morning (call me >> > >sentimental). >> > >13) Recently earthquake retrofitted with wall >> and roof supports >> > (most >> > >warehouses aren't). >> > >14) Wayne actually went to a party there a few >> months ago and >> > enjoyed >> > >it! >> > >15) The end of the ramp between the two rooms >> is the only time >> > I've >> > >pulled a successful ollie on a skateboard in >> years. >> > >16) It's the only space I've ever played a >> three hour set at. :P >> > > >> > >Say what you want, say what you will. Can you >> come up with ONE REAL >> > >difference between 2nd and Jackson and say... >> er... Homebase? >> > > >> > >Oh wait, your boyfriend uses Homebase for his >> parties! >> > > >> > >>>> Could we PLEASE quit the kneebiting towards >> other promoters? <<< >> > > >> > >In the end, it's another big building in a >> questionable neighborhood >> > that >> > >tends to get hot when you fill it chock full of >> dancing people, the >> > same >> > >type of building this scene has flourished in >> party after party for >> > years. >> > > >> > >Because of insurance, permits, fire marshall >> walkthroughs, etc, it >> > is by >> > >definition safer by legal terms than any of the >> UG locations. I >> > prefer it >> > >to any other permittable location except one in >> Oakland (the space >> > used >> > >for that Beautiful People where we had Brian and >> Brad play). >> > > >> > >What is your point here? >> > > >> > >I'm sorry you felt faint as a result of the heat >> and humidity at >> > Flower >> > >Fest. To be honest, I have felt similarly at >> every major location >> > sooner >> > >or later... the answer is in fans and >> ventilation, but it's tough >> > when >> > >sound leakage is a concern (and did you know that >> fans actually >> > INCREASE >> > >ambient air temperature, so if you're not >> bringing in cool air, they >> > >actually raise the temperature?). >> > > >> > >I hate to say this, but if you don't like it, >> don't go! >> > > >> > >Unity anyone? >> > >AndyW >> > > >> > >(the views expressed by andyw are his and his >> alone, and do not >> > reflect >> > >the views of harmony, cloud factory, viberation, >> mutor sound system, >> > nomad >> > >interactive, the City of Oakland, Francis the >> Talking Mule, Vestax >> > mixers, >> > >JBL speakers, Ortofon cartridges, MIT, Studio 54, >> Saturn5, Juan >> > Atkins the >> > >Bringer of All Things Splendid Sounding or >> anybody else not named >> > andyw). >> > > >> > >p.s. If you are gathering complaints to make a >> formal complaint >> > regarding >> > >the safety of that location, I'd see that as on >> par with pushing for >> > a >> > >practical monopoly for Home Base and the parties >> thrown there, which >> > I >> > >consider pretty much identical in every aspect >> spacewise (including >> > >stifling heat in the back rooms at all but the >> emptiest of parties, >> > which >> > >appears to be your motivating concern). There >> aren't exactly a lot of >> > >choices on locations right now, especially for >> sub-4000 person >> > events. >> > >This would be a completely different discussion >> for me if there were >> > any >> > >options as far as permitable spaces besides >> Homebase, 85th and >> > Baldwin, >> > >JJNewberry's and 2nd&Jackson. The last thing this >> scene needs right >> >=== message truncated === > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:46:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4442 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:46:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4425 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:46:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:46:32 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 300; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:21 -0700 Message-ID: <371E4A74.9EE19682@hrg.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:00:20 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jess ica CC: BreakBeat , Eric Vandenbroek , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? References: <19990421214431.25870.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SF isnt giving out any more permits. end of story. john r Jess ica wrote: > What about the place where IDM, Sol Rotation, and Genesis were held? > In SF, IDM was probably around 1500 people, and Genesis was no more > than 150. Its versatile, for all size parties, does anyone know why it > isnt used? > > Jessica > > --- BreakBeat wrote: > > Quick Question, I went to I believe it was a warmth > > party, someones > > birthday like a year back, it was a small party > > prolly only around 500 > > ppl, but it was at a good lil warehouse loaction > > somewhere off army > > street. Anyone know the place i'm talking about? Or > > why I've never heard > > about another party there? > > > > symmetry > > > > Eric Vandenbroek wrote: > > > > > In regards to Andy W.'s commentary on this > > subject. I completly > > > agree. I don't understand why you (the person who > > asked this > > > question) wants negative feed back. Do you know > > how difficult it is > > > to find good locations for the scene right now, > > and yet you are > > > collecting evidence to I'm assuming close one > > down. Right, why don't > > > you just go and make the whole s.f. scene > > dissapear while you are at > > > it. I really hope the s.f. scene doesn't turn in > > to L.A. but at the > > > rate it is going, and the greediness that is > > coming up. It's bound > > > to fall. Anyway, before I start throwing too much > > of my opinions of > > > the condition of the scene I will conclude this > > e-mail. > > > > > > Eric > > > > > > >From: AndyW > > > >Reply-To: AndyW > > > >To: Ravergrl27@aol.com > > > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > > >Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? > > > >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:20:40 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > > >How about some reasons to use 2nd and Jackson (I > > personally don't > > > love the > > > >space all that much, but for someone who tends to > > be > > > *positive*positive* > > > >all the time, you're making quite an effort to > > make a negative mark > > > here > > > >Jeannie). > > > > > > > >1) It's smaller than HomeBase. Not every > > promoter can or wants > > > to > > > >throw an event at that scale. > > > >2) It's permitable. > > > >3) It's better than Newberry's. > > > >4) Solid two room layout > > > >5) The rafters are a dream to work with > > props, lasers, visuals > > > and > > > >lights-wise. > > > >6) The people who manage the space are > > scene-savvy. > > > >7) Central location. > > > >8) It would be easy to evacuate in case of > > emergency. > > > >9) Ample parking within a couple blocks. > > > >10) Nearby restaurants for crew members who > > forget to eat until > > > 9pm > > > >when the party starts... so they can just sneak > > out and get a quick > > > bite > > > >to eat. > > > >11) Convenient to get to (45 min from San > > Jo!). > > > >12) The sun comes through the skylights in the > > morning (call me > > > >sentimental). > > > >13) Recently earthquake retrofitted with wall > > and roof supports > > > (most > > > >warehouses aren't). > > > >14) Wayne actually went to a party there a few > > months ago and > > > enjoyed > > > >it! > > > >15) The end of the ramp between the two rooms > > is the only time > > > I've > > > >pulled a successful ollie on a skateboard in > > years. > > > >16) It's the only space I've ever played a > > three hour set at. :P > > > > > > > >Say what you want, say what you will. Can you > > come up with ONE REAL > > > >difference between 2nd and Jackson and say... > > er... Homebase? > > > > > > > >Oh wait, your boyfriend uses Homebase for his > > parties! > > > > > > > >>>> Could we PLEASE quit the kneebiting towards > > other promoters? <<< > > > > > > > >In the end, it's another big building in a > > questionable neighborhood > > > that > > > >tends to get hot when you fill it chock full of > > dancing people, the > > > same > > > >type of building this scene has flourished in > > party after party for > > > years. > > > > > > > >Because of insurance, permits, fire marshall > > walkthroughs, etc, it > > > is by > > > >definition safer by legal terms than any of the > > UG locations. I > > > prefer it > > > >to any other permittable location except one in > > Oakland (the space > > > used > > > >for that Beautiful People where we had Brian and > > Brad play). > > > > > > > >What is your point here? > > > > > > > >I'm sorry you felt faint as a result of the heat > > and humidity at > > > Flower > > > >Fest. To be honest, I have felt similarly at > > every major location > > > sooner > > > >or later... the answer is in fans and > > ventilation, but it's tough > > > when > > > >sound leakage is a concern (and did you know that > > fans actually > > > INCREASE > > > >ambient air temperature, so if you're not > > bringing in cool air, they > > > >actually raise the temperature?). > > > > > > > >I hate to say this, but if you don't like it, > > don't go! > > > > > > > >Unity anyone? > > > >AndyW > > > > > > > >(the views expressed by andyw are his and his > > alone, and do not > > > reflect > > > >the views of harmony, cloud factory, viberation, > > mutor sound system, > > > nomad > > > >interactive, the City of Oakland, Francis the > > Talking Mule, Vestax > > > mixers, > > > >JBL speakers, Ortofon cartridges, MIT, Studio 54, > > Saturn5, Juan > > > Atkins the > > > >Bringer of All Things Splendid Sounding or > > anybody else not named > > > andyw). > > > > > > > >p.s. If you are gathering complaints to make a > > formal complaint > > > regarding > > > >the safety of that location, I'd see that as on > > par with pushing for > > > a > > > >practical monopoly for Home Base and the parties > > thrown there, which > > > I > > > >consider pretty much identical in every aspect > > spacewise (including > > > >stifling heat in the back rooms at all but the > > emptiest of parties, > > > which > > > >appears to be your motivating concern). There > > aren't exactly a lot of > > > >choices on locations right now, especially for > > sub-4000 person > > > events. > > > >This would be a completely different discussion > > for me if there were > > > any > > > >options as far as permitable spaces besides > > Homebase, 85th and > > > Baldwin, > > > >JJNewberry's and 2nd&Jackson. The last thing this > > scene needs right > > > === message truncated === From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:49:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8275 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:49:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 8029 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:49:09 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:49:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421214722.16961.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.245] by web4; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:47:22 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: a good party place.... To: Kalika1196@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Again another Space that is no longer availble. And when availble only Greg Sandler and my friend Ross could rent it out for events. All events there have been connected to them. sorry to dissapoint. =)jeremy === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Kalika1196@aol.com wrote: > > ok, ive only been to one party here, and they've only had 2, but it seems to > be a really good location for parties, smaller parties. its the phoenix in > petaluma. its pretty clean, and is has real bathrooms. it didnt get too hot > when i was there, and there is an accessable water fountain. imo i think > promoters should have more parties there! the parties that were held there we > sparkle, and beautiful people in january. > > trisha > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:53:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12551 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:53:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 12541 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:53:36 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:53:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22754 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:54:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>> , why don't you just go and make the whole s.f. scene dissapear while you are at it. I really hope the s.f. scene doesn't turn in to L.A. but at the rate it is going, and the greediness that is coming up. It's bound to fall. <<< Why are people always talking mess about the LA scene all the time?? I would venture to say that most of the people that talk shit about the LA scene havent been to many parties down there... I have been two 2 parties down in LA in the past two months, and they have both been excellent parties... Better than what i have been to in the bay and in SAC in the last 6 months or so... (granted i havent been going to as many parties as i was a few years ago) Sure they are usually pretty expensive, but you can tell where the money went... bomb locations, lots of air, AWESOME SECURITY that keeps the gangstahs in the parking lot to do their dealing, plenty of well lit parking and short lines(even for 10,000 person massives), great decorations, real bathrooms, and toys like jumpy castles and huge outside areas, and i can go on and on.. Im sorry kids... We had the best scene for a long time, but others are coming up while we are just sitting around and complaining... I am suprised that Harmony (by far my favorite bay area production company) used 2nd and jackson, but im sure it was a last resort. Throwing parties is HARD... And you cant charge 50 a head so you can afford to do everything that would make the party amazing for everybody... Gregery From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 21:53:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13234 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 21:53:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 13218 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:53:56 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:53:56 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-226.dsp.com [204.118.76.226]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA05692; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:53:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199904212153.OAA05692@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:49:04 -0700 To: BreakBeat , Eric Vandenbroek , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re:old venues/new venues In-Reply-To: <371CEEF7.84858FBD@thegrid.net> References: <19990421184321.8408.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That reminds me: Does anyone remember the Farm? This scene could really use something like the it. The Farm was a punk rock venue, in a big old barn-like building on an actual urban farm co-op deal. Huge dance floor spaces, a big bar area, and picnic tables. The last show I saw there was a truly wacky lineup: MDC, Nothing Sacred, and Christian Death. It was like the moment of transition from punk rock to death rock. Anyway, I'm sure it's long transformed into something completely different, but it was a danged good idea at the time. Perhaps some old timers who were affiliated with that org are on the list and amped to recreate the glory days? Jessica At 02:17 PM 4/20/99 -0700, BreakBeat wrote: >Quick Question, I went to I believe it was a warmth party, someones >birthday like a year back, it was a small party prolly only around 500 >ppl, but it was at a good lil warehouse loaction somewhere off army >street. Anyone know the place i'm talking about? Or why I've never heard >about another party there? > >symmetry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:02:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18560 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:02:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 18539 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:02:51 -0000 Received: from mail1.sirius.com (205.134.253.131) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:02:51 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok08--197.sirius.net [205.134.245.197]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA02363; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01c001be8c3d$e5a8ef20$c5f586cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "SFraves peeps" Subject: Fw: Crack Cam Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:28:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Subject: Crack Cam > see what some of our friends are doing with computers these days: > > > > >O Mighty Wrybread List: > > > >The Wrybread Crack Cam will be unveiled with a bang on Friday, since it's > >scheduled to be on Netscape Cool Site of the Day. For those of you > >unfamiliar, the Crack Cam is a collection of movies I made of the local > >wildlife in my neighborhood smoking crack. You can see the movies at the > >Crack Cam page, which is http://wrybread.com/crackcam. They're short, all > >you'll need is RealAudio, and all is explained on the page. > > > >I'm trying to make the page more than just a bunch of goofy movies, I want > >to get some dialog going about the ethics of filming crack addicts in their > >worst moments. Personally, I think it's fine, but I know a lot of people > >have strong feelings against it. So here's your chance, post away in the > >bulletin board, both pros and cons. All points of view are invited. Link > >to the posting area from the Crack Cam, http://wrybread.com/crackcam. > >Thanks much, and always remember how much you knead wrybread. > > > >Hugh Mann > >wrybread.com > >"because you knead wrybread" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Life is on the wire, all the rest is waiting." > Karl Wallenda, patriarch of the Flying Wallendas > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:03:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19323 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:03:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 19299 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:03:32 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:03:32 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (324) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOYGa06717 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:02:10 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <14c04ed2.244fa4b8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:01:28 EDT Subject: Re: a good party place.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i second that. the phoenix is a second home for me and a great place for any kind of event. it's not that big, but it has a balcony where people can sit who are too e*tarded to dance,(so that solves that problem of getting them out of the way of the dancefloor) and like trisha said it has REAL bathrooms. (whoo hoo!!! with sink and everything! now that's sanitary!!) plenty of places that can be divided into different rooms, not too hot at ALL(another problem solved) water fountain (yet ANOTHER problem solved), stage for main djs...the only downside i can think of is that it is kinda out of the way for people down south. but then again, i don't know to much about throwing parties so ya know.... so for all u promoters out there, check this place out, it's perfect!!!! alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:07:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23032 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:07:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 23018 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:07:02 -0000 Received: from f141.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:07:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 35256 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 22:06:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421220636.35254.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:06:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: stargurl@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: possible spot? Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:06:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The Cell locations is ULTRA selective and they do not let many partys go off there. Like you said it has to be some sort of charity and last but not least you can not do it legally there. Peaces, Macadio >From: "Amber Leahey" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: possible spot? >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:40 PDT > >I was at this great little party a few years back at an artist >community(I believe) called Cell or Cells. The name of the party was >Cell-sius. From what I understand they will have parties there once in >a while if it's for a benefit, like food for the homeless. It's in San >Francisco and God knows where it's at cause I don't remember. It's a >semi-small but hella sweet location. It would be great for a starup or >few hundred people location. Did anyone else ever go there? Maybe it >doesn't exist anymore. Just trying to help. > >Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) >"Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb"-Dark >Helmet(Spaceballs the Movie) > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:10:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26240 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:10:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 26220 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:10:47 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:10:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421220951.16123.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:09:51 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:09:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: a good party place.... To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, Kalika1196@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I heard it wasnt earthquake safe, and they cant anyone to pay to restore it, im not sure if this is true, can someone confirm? If so, I wonder how much $$ it would take to restore it. -Jessica --- Jeremy Bispo wrote: > > Again another Space that is no longer availble. And > when availble only Greg Sandler and my friend Ross > could rent it out for events. All events there have > been connected to them. > > sorry to dissapoint. > > =)jeremy > > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > ---Kalika1196@aol.com wrote: > > > > ok, ive only been to one party here, and they've > only had 2, but it seems to > > be a really good location for parties, smaller > parties. its the phoenix in > > petaluma. its pretty clean, and is has real > bathrooms. it didnt get too hot > > when i was there, and there is an accessable water > fountain. imo i think > > promoters should have more parties there! the > parties that were held there we > > sparkle, and beautiful people in january. > > > > trisha > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:11:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26978 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:11:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26936 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:11:25 -0000 Received: from law-f155.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.218) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:11:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 96977 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 22:10:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421221054.96976.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.212.207 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:10:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.212.207] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fw: Crack Cam Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:10:53 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That kicks ass! *ROTFL* Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) > >Subject: Crack Cam > > >> see what some of our friends are doing with computers these days: >> >> > >> >O Mighty Wrybread List: >> > >> >The Wrybread Crack Cam will be unveiled with a bang on Friday, since it's >> >scheduled to be on Netscape Cool Site of the Day. For those of you >> >unfamiliar, the Crack Cam is a collection of movies I made of the local >> >wildlife in my neighborhood smoking crack. You can see the movies at the >> >Crack Cam page, which is http://wrybread.com/crackcam. They're short, >all >> >you'll need is RealAudio, and all is explained on the page. >> > >> >I'm trying to make the page more than just a bunch of goofy movies, I >want >> >to get some dialog going about the ethics of filming crack addicts in >their >> >worst moments. Personally, I think it's fine, but I know a lot of people >> >have strong feelings against it. So here's your chance, post away in the >> >bulletin board, both pros and cons. All points of view are invited. >Link >> >to the posting area from the Crack Cam, http://wrybread.com/crackcam. >> >Thanks much, and always remember how much you knead wrybread. >> > >> >Hugh Mann >> >wrybread.com >> >"because you knead wrybread" >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Life is on the wire, all the rest is waiting." >> Karl Wallenda, patriarch of the Flying Wallendas >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:15:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 878 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:14:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 798 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:14:57 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:14:57 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA16568 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:14:55 -0700 Message-ID: <00a001be8c44$aed7de00$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: a good party place.... Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:17:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree that that venue is nice. I have not been to parties there, but concerts, and I really liked the location. The limited, comfortable seating was nice, and the access to outside (probably would have to be limited if there were a party there) was appreciated. (Of course that was in the summer, so of course it was nice, but hey summer is coming!) In my educated ignorance, I advocate this venue greatly. (Educated because I have been there and know that is is fat, but ignorant because I do not comprehend the wide array of issues that must be dealt with in order to get a party going off, and how this particular location complies with those.) :) Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Once you're in you gotta take it, Make your mind up, son, and face it, Because Warriors don't cry. -=- Beres Hammond -----Original Message----- From: Kalika1196@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 1:51 PM Subject: a good party place.... >ok, ive only been to one party here, and they've only had 2, but it seems to >be a really good location for parties, smaller parties. its the phoenix in >petaluma. its pretty clean, and is has real bathrooms. it didnt get too hot >when i was there, and there is an accessable water fountain. imo i think >promoters should have more parties there! the parties that were held there we >sparkle, and beautiful people in january. > >trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:22:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7867 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:22:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 7851 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:22:40 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:22:40 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14415) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3YWJa06721 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:21:37 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:20:55 EDT Subject: location scouts.... To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have to say I'm really happy that people are showing an interest in finding new, permittable locations. Maybe it is a result of the overuse and shutting down of certain locations, but the more effort we put forth the more we are going to come up with. I think we should have some sort of lookout group that finds locations and throws parties there! It seems like so many people/promoters are focused on "JUST throwing a party" that they don't bother to find a dope new locations. And granted, a lot of it has to do with permits.. but the bay area is no midwestern town, folks.. we do have lots of buildings and whatnot. I'm sure with some effort and coming together on our part we might be able to dig up some really dope, new spaces. It's an evolution... spaces close down, new ones open up. Is that art place everyone is talking about near Dore by any chance?? I remember there is a NICE little two room space over by Dore that was used for some Burning man exhibits and concerts.. clean bathrooms, too. Your mission: find new warehouses!!! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "Be a part... stand apart." -puscha meets trade, Ibiza From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:24:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9665 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:24:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 9653 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:24:29 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:24:29 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (324) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSNPa24482 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:22:30 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:22:18 EDT Subject: ride for all play together To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if anyone is going to all play togther and would be as incredible as to give me and a friend a ride( it's her birthday and we wanna party!!), i would appreciate it greatly. i live in san rafael(15 min north of san fran) but would be willing to take a bus to the city or where ever needed if it's more convenient for you.we'll pitch in generous gas money. thanks in advance, alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:25:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10517 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:25:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 10508 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:25:38 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:25:38 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (324) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rEOEa09146; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:17:39 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <2232c5d4.244fa881@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:17:37 EDT Subject: Re: a good party place.... To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think that might be partially right. i've been going there for a few years and they've been saying that it's gonna be shut down longer than that. they still have local concerts there every weekend so then it's probably not true cuz that wouldn't make sense. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:27:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12463 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:27:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 12454 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:27:38 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:27:38 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (14378) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBGQa13357 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:25:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:25:01 EDT Subject: Re: Regarding the lastest issue on 2nd and jaskson To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I will be writing a very well thought out letter regarding this location and what they are doing to make it better for all!!! You all need to know that they are taking care of some issues that everyone has been talking about! I wrote a very harsh letter regarding this location and the people behind it the other day... I want to let you all know that in writing that letter it was my own oppinion and what I have wittness for some time now. To let you all know the are some things that are taking place as we all speak about this location right now.. Things are being done to ensure the safety of every person at this location.. The owners are aware of the problems and have been working towards a better place in this location! It is very time consumming to make everything just right and safe...They have to deal with many issues and have been making an effort to make things right My letter the other day was HARD!! I meant it to be that way because I felt it for sometime now..I had a personal oppinion and it has been answered and made out to make a positive change! The owners are working HARD to make these changes and I for one want to make a public statement in saying that these changes are happening and that we all can look forward to a great space to look forward to! Im glad that things are coming together for them.. Its about time and Im happy to see that everything is coming together... I want to say to ALL OF YOU that in my last letter regarding this location I was hard and even out of line at times, but I had every right to say something at that time. By no means did my statements go in vein and from the huge amount of letter I have recieved regrading how you all feel makes me see why I said something. To let you know, Stacy is working hard and is trying to get things going for all of us!!! I hope its sooner then later.. Like I said I would not stand down and watch what has been happening go on any futher. This is to Stacy.. I wish nothing but the best for you and I hope All your efforts come shining through. Make sure that you realize why I fianlly said something and why I could no longer sit and watch things get worse!! I love you and wish you all the best in your future. To feel The moon is full the water calm. The wind blows, gentle, but strong. The night is pure, real. You feel as one - when all is still. This peaceful earth, it is to feel. May you always feel the strom before the calm Hugs*** Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:27:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12697 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:27:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 12512 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:27:41 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:27:41 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA17710 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:27:40 -0700 Message-ID: <00e901be8c46$768e7700$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:29:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree, and I think promotors face the same problem everywhere. That is why I am eternally grateful to have any place to party. I know that there are so many negatives involved in so many places, but I do not think that this is the fault of the promoters, rather existing political and legislative conditions. (If _I_ were in charge, we would have special ordinances for the buliding of venues in which parties happen! :), you know, 'the chill room must be such-and-such by this many feet' and 'outdoor area must provide adequate space for meditation' etc. Okay, I think I need to break out of Mitty mode, and get to work!) A bientot, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Once you're in you gotta take it, Make your mind up, son, and face it, Because Warriors don't cry. -=- Beres Hammond -----Original Message----- From: Eric Vandenbroek To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 2:16 PM Subject: Re: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson >Locations are extremly hard to come by, that is why the parties have >only been existing in a handfull of locations. I don't know how you >can sit there and think that there are places readily available for a >party, because they don't exist. > >Eric > > >>From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com >>To: Kevin Simonich >>Subject: Re: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson >>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:30:58 -0700 >> >> >> >> >> >>To: Jason LEE/HQ/US/ADECCO >>cc: andy@saturn5.com >>Subject: Re: AndyW & 2nd -N- Jackson >> >> >> >> >> >>I can't start a list of available venues, I'm not a promoter or throw >>parties. >>But I can assure of all the buildings I see in the entire Bay Area, >I'm >>sure there's >>countless opportunites for one of those if not more to be a >completely >>sweet and prime >>location for both the party goer and promoter alike. If the >promoter has >>us in mind, he >>would take the time and energy and check out different possibilites, >>consult with various >>building managers, and scope tons of different locations based on >what >>their party needs. >> >>My opinion, promoters just take the easy way out, use a location >"THAT >>everyone knows" which is >>benificial for the promoter and the party goer. Use a location >becuase >>that location has been >>used for that purpose befor.... which means to the promoter "easy". >I'm >>sorry, even though I've >>never thrown a party of more than 100 people in size, I do know that >>throwing a party is not easy >>and if they are truly doing it for the love of the scene and the >people, >>they will work their ass >>off to find the best location..... its not about Great Talent, Great >sound, >>it's not about Great Theme's or Props >>and it's sure not about Great location..... at least in today's party >>terms, it's maybe one of the three, >> >>if a Promoter can pull all three together, then thats a person that >loves >>it fully and it surely would show. >> >>Jason >> >> >>;OK, name some others that are sized for 1000-2000 people events, >can have >>;legally permitted all-hours all-ages parties? There WAS Maritime, >but I >>;dunno that it's a viable spot any more. So, what are YOUR >suggestions >>;for other completely legal party locations that fit the criteria? >Given >>;the apparent lack of such, I'm sure more people than me'd love to >hear >>'em... >> >> >> >>;-Opus >> >> >>;P.S. I am not actually all THAT fond of 2nd & J myself, overall. I >just >>;don't think it's anywhere near as bad as some other people seem to >think, >>;and I'd hate to see yet another of the dwindling locales get lost... >> >> >> >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:30:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15636 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:30:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 15618 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:30:26 -0000 Received: from stinger-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO stinger.excite.com) (198.3.99.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:30:26 -0000 Received: from speedy.excite.com ([199.172.152.78]) by stinger.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990421222958.XWHL15757.stinger@speedy.excite.com> for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:29:58 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: negative words and violence Message-Id: <924733798.21917.771@excite.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:29:58 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk saturday, when we were setting up for harmony, someone put a rap tap into a boombox and turned it up.... and it really annoyed me because i found the words negative and disturbing... a few of us were talking about it, and some people said "i just tune it out" .... but i don't think we *can* tune things out, and i think that listening to negeative rap or angry punk rock or stupid aggressive shit in general, with words of hate and violence, with anger and agression in the lyrics... i think this stuff goes right into your brain, whether you notice or not. and i think we need to be careful with how we are "programming" our brains... which is one reason i like the positive subliminal words that are often used in techno, trance and house music. we need all the positivity we can get. this all came back to me last night watching the news, where the media is grasping for ways to categorize these fucked up high school children who worked together to create a scene of total destruction against those they apparently felt were against them. (sorry, i can't muster up to much sympathy for them personally, no matter how sad their lives, i don't see them as the victims) and i wonder what kind of music they were listening to, what kind of beats and words they gravitated toward that they felt expressed the world they live in. (the media said they liked "german techno punk" or something) this is just sharing a thought that i've had many times, that we must recognize the power of words, not just in media and movies that we program ourselves with (and don't tell me that's not "programming" becuase it is... when you become insensitive to horrendous violence because you've seen it on tv or moves over and over again, you have been programmed to accept it)... i think we all need to think about how the music we choose to listen to not only expresses what we have inside of us, but it also creates who we are inside and how we see the world. these are just my thoughts.... and i try to be aware of my music choices in this context. another thing i wonder is if we'll see is that use of amphetamines played a part in this tragedy... the paranoia that results from crystal or crank use falls right in line with this scenario. it's a sad sad time for parents and children, for all the citizens of our society... and hopefully a chance to see how we can make some changes that shift the world we are creating around us. love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:33:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19828 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:33:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 19820 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:33:10 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:33:10 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (324) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVTDa17925 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:31:27 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:31:05 EDT Subject: tickets online To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what was that web page where u can get tickets for parties? e-mail me if u have the info. thanks. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:36:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24492 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:36:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24445 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:35:58 -0000 Received: from wya-oe7.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:35:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 40965 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 22:36:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421223634.40964.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.9.230 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:36:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.9.230] From: "ve anne" To: montereypat@yahoo.com, robint@cruinc.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: NRR: LOOKING TO BUY EQUIPMENT!!! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:36:33 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk NOOOOOOO!!!!! not Ebay! i started bidding for a pair of 1200's at $550 and suddenly everyone wants it! ARGH!!! >:( veanne From: Patrick Seaton To: RobinT ,"sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: NRR: LOOKING TO BUY EQUIPMENT!!! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:54:25 -0700 (PDT) there is Ebay.com and 1200s.com. --- RobinT wrote: > Hello all, > I am looking to buy some tables, mixer, etc. if > anyone has equipment for > sale or knows of a web-site I can go to to purchase > or bid in auction > for some equipment, I would very grateful if you > could let me know! > Thanx for your help! > RobinT > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:52:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3664 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:52:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 3656 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:52:36 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd88.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.152) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:52:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 84950 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 22:52:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421225209.84949.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.9.230 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:52:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.9.230] From: "ve anne" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 1200's for sale Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:52:09 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this is not a NRR. wanna know why? raves->music->dj->turntables! so :P check it out! it's at $610 for the pair right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=94021807 Pair of Technics 1200 mk2 series professional direct drive turntables. Both units are in EXCELLENT condition. Features include: Direct Drive Quartz Synthesizer, quartz locked continuous pitch adjustment up to +/-8%, low mass tone arm with gimbal suspension, RCA outputs, anti-skate, pitch control and pop-up light. Everything is working PERFECTLY inside and out. Cosmetically, no dents or scratches. The tables are about two years old. However, they've probably only been used about 25 times with no more than 50 hours of play time. I bought them with intentions of getting into mixing but I have just been too busy with work to find the time to practice seriously. Comes with: 2 STANTON D6800EL cartridges with needles/stylus 2 Genz Benz FLIGHT READY turntable cases (these are INDIVIDUAL hard cases with steel reinforced corners for each turntable (NOT A COFFIN) and originally sold for ($130.00 each) 2 scratch pads Pair of Technics 1200 mk2 series professional direct drive turntables. Both units are in EXCELLENT condition. Features include: Direct Drive Quartz Synthesizer, quartz locked continuous pitch adjustment up to +/-8%, low mass tone arm with gimbal suspension, RCA outputs, anti-skate, pitch control and pop-up light. Everything is working PERFECTLY inside and out. Cosmetically, no dents or scratches. The tables are about two years old. However, they've probably only been used about 25 times with no more than 50 hours of play time. I bought them with intentions of getting into mixing but I have just been too busy with work to find the time to practice seriously. Comes with: *2 STANTON D6800EL cartridges with needles/stylus *2 Genz Benz FLIGHT READY turntable cases (these are INDIVIDUAL hard cases with steel reinforced corners for each turntable (NOT A COFFIN) and originally sold for ($130.00 each) *2 scratch pads From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:59:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10859 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:59:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 10702 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:59:24 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:59:24 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA01134 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca3-186.ix.netcom.com(209.109.233.186) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma001101; Wed Apr 21 17:58:25 1999 Message-ID: <371E66C1.3703@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:01:08 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: SRR[Fwd: a good party place....] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Since this question was brought up....Does anyboy know why the following locations are NO longer used: 1) Ceaser's Latin Palace-- All of the house parties were thrown there in 96 and 97--Not that I like this spot(very hot and stuffy) but it holds about 500 people I'd assume. 2) The location that the last By the People party was thrown in late 97'. It was in Oakland in these portable type things. It had two large rooms and a third room that was used as a walk through type space. There was convienent parking and it was really cold inside(until you start dancing ofcourse), but I think it was really dirty. 3) Also in late 97', a LOVE(Sf House Collective) party was thrown about 15 to 20 minutes beyond the G.Gate bridge. It was one room that held about 400 or so people-. There was tons of parking right outside the location but it only went till 5- > ok, ive only been to one party here, and they've only had 2, but it seems to > be a really good location for parties, smaller parties. its the phoenix in > petaluma. its pretty clean, and is has real bathrooms. it didnt get too hot > when i was there, and there is an accessable water fountain. imo i think > promoters should have more parties there! the parties that were held there we > sparkle, and beautiful people in january. > > trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 22:59:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11671 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 22:59:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 11550 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 22:59:41 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 22:59:41 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA01120 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:58:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca3-186.ix.netcom.com(209.109.233.186) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma001067; Wed Apr 21 17:58:14 1999 Message-ID: <371E6230.931@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:41:37 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why?] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There's nothing wrong with 2nd and Jackson, the problem is: Most parties thrown there are maxed out and there isn't any windows or outside area and so it becomes extremly hot and irritable. I've been to alot of parties there that went really well, do to the capacity level and the numerous amount of fans- > Name the TOP 3 reasons why you wouldnt want to go to 2nd and Jackson? Please From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:12:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19763 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:12:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 19755 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:12:48 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:12:48 -0000 Received: from Brikne@aol.com (7821) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCFIa03465 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:11:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Brikne@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:11:48 EDT Subject: nrr: colorado shooting, what about he killers? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: Brikne@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Now before eveyone attacks me... please read all that i have to say here. im not gonna defend those fools who killed all those people, but those boys were not born monsters. it seems that all the news is describing the "trenchcoat mafia" as this united force for evil. People who hurt have been hurt themselves.... i think they are prolly just as much victims as anyone else. i can only imagine what there parents are feeling... not only are there sons dead, but they died killing others. they are prolly pretty fucked up to have sons so devoid of love in there life.... but even still. i was an outcast for most of my school life... but i have wonderful parents. i would hurt myself instead of other people... low self esteem does that. what must those boys have been exposed to in there life to make them do that? i had a hard time enjoying my 420 knowing so many were hurting. sigh...so go give all your friends a hug today =) BK From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:16:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22112 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:16:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22087 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:16:29 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:16:29 -0000 Received: from emfpc-3b (emf-14.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.214]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14214; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904212316.QAA14214@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: leslie.ayres@excite.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: Harmony was a blast for me! CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:18:51 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm so glad someone else saw it, too! Everyone thought I was lying. Its a sad, sad day when a candy kid falls that deep into the gutter. Rafie leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote... >that the one paul?) .... and maybe even saw him passed out on the floor >wth his pants undone (as someone said... i missed it)... next time, i'll From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:30:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3392 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:30:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3379 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:30:04 -0000 Received: from web218.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.118) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:30:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421232851.22759.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.108.36.66] by web218.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:28:51 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:28:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Sensei Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? To: Ravergrl27@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1) The unbelievably unbearable heat!!! 2) LACK OF FANS!!!!!! 2nd and JAckson needs to buy more! 3) Lack of fresh air coming from outside inside. ALL the problems I have with 2nd and JAckson are related to the heat and the lack or air. Otherwise, I think it's a kewl spot.... Sensei Do not look forward in fear, or back in anger, but around in awareness.... --- Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > Here is a question that maybe some of you can > answer: > > Name the TOP 3 reasons why you wouldnt want to go to > 2nd and Jackson? Please > do not mention any production crews. This is not > about about them in any way! > Im making sure that if there are more then 20 > complaints about safety it will > help me out in a few gray areas! Thanks people!!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:36:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7877 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:36:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 7863 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:36:25 -0000 Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.193) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:36:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421233649.17416.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.212.64.100] by web125.yahoomail.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:36:49 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:36:49 -0700 (PDT) From: lynz Subject: BSP: NeverLand UpDate To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I got this annoucement on the socal list... i dunno.. tell me what you think... kinda expensive huh? Lynz --- Chris Adams wrote: > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:43:35 -0600 > From: Chris Adams > To: mtn ravers , > az-raves@azraves.org, > scr@socal-raves.org, txraves@io.com, > Hard and Happy > Subject: [scr] NeverLand UpDate > > I have had a ton of responses about NeverLand > lately, so i have decided > to post an up to date current version of what is > going on with it to all > lists that i've had interest spawning from....... > In a week or so the official posting will go up for > all of you!!!!! > PLUR and hope to see you at the party!!!! > > > Event: NeverLand > Date: Fryday June 25 - Spundae June 26 > Place: Denver, CO > Cost: $30 (it's worth every penny, just read on > and find out for > yourself!) > Line-Up: > 1- DJ 3-D----Jungle----Chicago > 2- DJ R.A.W.----Old Skool----LA (not yet confirmed, > but trying) > 3- Liquid 22----Live Trance PA----Texas > 4- Ecspansion----Live PA----New Mexico > 5- Cloudskipper----Happy Hardcore----East Coast > 6- Nimh featuring MC Stylee----Happy > Hardcore----Arizona > 7- Intensity----Happy Hardcore----Arizona > 8- Dreamgirl featuring her live Diva----Happy > Hardcore----Arizona > 9- DMX----Slamm'n House----Denver, CO > 10- Shahzad----Trance----Denver, CO > 11- J-Suave/ Dizable/Adam in a 3x4 w/ MC Vicious > One----Jungle----Denver, CO > 12- Jonathan----Jungle/Trance----Ft. Collins, CO > 13- Muppetfucker aka Noahphex----Happy > Hardcore----Texas > 14- Dan-E----House & Breaks----Grand Junction, CO > 15- 1/4 Roy----Trance----Grand Junction, CO > 16- Justin Obrien----Trance----New Mexico > 17- Sebastian Wolfe----Hard Tek House----Arizona > 18- Razor FM----Hard Trance----Denver, CO > 19- Moh and Eroks----House----Denver, CO > 20- Slippy----Techno----Colorado Springs, CO > 21-30- TBA!!!! > > > We have contacted Six Flags: Elitch Gardens and we > have made it possible > for any > and all ravers whom want to go to the > amuzement/water park on the Fryday > before > the party (both those in state and out) to go for a > mere $14 for an all > day > pass. > Consider it "Raver Appreciation Day" at Elitch's! > > There will also be a $5 Party on the Fryday night > before the party with > Danny > the Wildchild. Anyone interested in going to this > we will help you find > it and > get there from the hotel (for those of you traveling > and want to go). > > The party starts at 6pm on Saturday, and doesn't end > until 10am on > Spundae; when > the after party starts (which goes until about > 8pm)......... > > There will be an MC competition for $100 midway > through the > evening......if you > are interested in entering let us know....... > > As far as lights and sound are concerned: > The lights at this party will be amazing......no, > not 30 intellibeams > and yada > yada..... lights you've never seen at > parties....AMAZING lights, and > lots of > different kinds, all extremely beautiful and > mezmorizing.......if you > come, > you'll see... > There will also be bad-ass NeverLand themed > projections in the tent; and > as far > as sound? There will be very high quality shake > your booty and thump > your > entire body sound in all 3 rooms. > > We are booking a hotel for kids traveling and for > the afterparty. The > hotel > rooms will be discounted. We are trying to find a > hotel that will have > a > swimming pool and a hot tub, as well as a free > breakfast bar.......the > after > party will be in the hotel ballroom. Imagine > it..... it will be a hotel > > completely over-run by ravers from all over the > nation for the entire > weekend!!! > > Additionally we are putting together "to-do in > Denver" guides that will > be raver > friendly for those who are traveling. It will > entail record stores, > rave gear > shops, clubs, and restaurants; complete with a "how > to get there from > the hotel" > section. Those of you coming from out of state we > want to see have a > complete > Denver style kick in the ass!!!!! > > Anyone interested in a room notify us. When we have > the hotel picked > out (1 of > 100 : ), we will hook u up with them and you will be > able to book your > room > directly yourself with the discounted rate. All you > will have to do is > mention > Neverland and you will be taken care of. > > > The party will include FREE water (all night), FREE > Candy, FREE Fruit > Bar, FREE > food, FREE give aways (150mixtapes---each dj playing > is being asked to > make and > bring 5+ tapes for this give away--------- and > NeverLand T-Shirts), and > a FREE > afterparty > > Tix are being sold in (currently) about 10 states > and 30 cities. We are > only > selling 1000 tix, and they are all being sold by > individuals not by > stores, > ticket master or otherwise.....the reason for only > 1000 tix being sold > for such > a beautiful event? > Simple. > To keep it beautiful. > To many parties these days (atleast in Colorado) > have been vibeless due > to > overcrowding and overselling tix. This makes it > impossible to dance, > breathe, > set-up camp, move around, walk, etc. Plus, this > increases the risk of > being > shut down due to fire-code. > FUCK THAT. > We want to have a party that goes al night, with > plenty of room for > everyone. > We want everyone there to be comfortable and having > a good time. > We will start selling tix in the next 2 to 3 weeks, > so if u are > interested, get > on it. We expect tix to sell out fast as hell for > this rave, even with > the fact > that we are selling them so early (as u can see > why). Why are we > selling tix so > early? Simple. To have all of the rest of the time > to help kids coming > to the > party plan how to get here, and so that we can put > our all into > decorations and > venue set-up. Also this way all of the financial > Bull Shit for the > party has > been taken care of and is out of the way for all of > us and we can focus > on > throwing an amazing party and WE can focus on having > a good time too. > > Also, tix will be full color and glossy. They will > be checked at the > door, and > then you will be allowed to keep them as a momento > of the night. Plus, > there > will be a DJ-Time playing sheet handed out at the > flyer so that you will > know > when and who is playing in each room. > > To accomplish this we are going to have 3 rooms, an > outdoor tent area, > and two > chill out rooms......all together very large and > with plenty of room. > Additionally there will be plenty of things to make > this party even more > like > you are going to NeverLand. > > TONS, and i mean TONS of wickedly wonderful > decorations thru-out the > venue > giving it a very NeverLand feel....the chill out > rooms will be fully > equipped > with mattresses, a sea of stuffed animals, toys to > play with, etc, etc, > etc..... > and there will be a PLUR Patrol walking around the > party making sure > that > everyone is doing ok, asking them the vital > questions, " do you need any > water? > A piece of candy? How about a back massage?" : ) > They will also be > bearing > gifts of roll toys, vicks, sebreezes, dust masks, > etc. > > "promotion" for this party is being done in three > ways > 1> Word of mouth. > 2> Via E-mail. > 3> A very limited 3 page (8.5x11) black and white > flyer/packet. This > details > the entire party and why it is being thrown. > There will be a limited 2000-3000 flyers released > for this party. If > kids need > more, they will simply have to make > copies...besides, 1 & 2 are the main > sources > for promotion for this party. We want to keep it as > underground as > possible. > > We are going to also be doing a canned food drive > for the American Red > Cross the > night of the party. There will be a bin outside of > the front entry way > door for > this. PLEASE donate to it if you are coming to the > party. You will not > receive > discounts, or free prizes for doing this......just > do it out of the > goodness/PLUR of your heart, just as we are giving > of ourselves to bring > you all > this wonderful party. > > What to bring if traveling: > -Money you will need for gas, food, and misc items. > (this will vary > person to > person) > -Shopping $$ (optional) > -YOUR TICKET TO THE PARTY. VERY IMPORTANT!!! YOU > WILL NOT BE LET IN > WITHOUT > IT, SO DON'T FORGET IT!!!!!!!! > -All sorts of clothes, sunscreens, light jackets, > etc....be prepared for > > anything!!!! > -Any important info you will need: hotel > reservation #'s, id's (if you > plan to > go clubbing---the party itself will be all ages) > -Money for Elitch's passes---Again these will be $14 > each.-----if > interested > -Money for the $5 party on Fryday (with Danny the > Wildchild)------if > interested > -All of your rave toys, back packs, etc. > -You know, VACATION STUFF!!! > > DO NOT BRING GHB, BAD ATTITUDES, WEAPONS, OR GLASS > TO THE PARTY. THEY > WILL NOT > BE TOLERATED AND YOU WILL BE TOLD TO LEAVE > IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > PS>>>>This is the first official update......stay > tooned for revised > versions!!!! > And forward this to ANYONE or ANY LIST you think may > be interested in > attending!!!!!!! > > If you are interested in selling tix or just want to > purchase some, > e-mail me at > candeofo@earthlink.net. I will get you any and all > info you need. > > > > === "I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:36:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8554 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:36:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 8540 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:36:46 -0000 Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:36:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421233809.2603.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.15.189] by web306.yahoomail.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:38:09 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:38:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Re: a good party place....phoenix To: Kalika1196@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The Phoenix is great! I did visuals for SPAZ there last Boxing day and everything about it was wonderful from the inhouse staff to the general vibe. ... It was definitely my favorite U.S. party of last year (Second only to the Roni Size/LTJ Bukem/808 state/Chemical brothers/Mixmaster Morris extravaganza that I worked in London). I wish local promoters used it more ... I might even move to Petaluma if SPAZ did a weekly there! (They solved the location issue by bussing people there) I know it looks Funky in the daylight but at 3am there are few places I would rather be partying. ---. its the phoenix in > petaluma. imo i think > promoters should have more parties there> trisha > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:41:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10898 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:41:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 10886 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:41:39 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:41:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 22739 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:41:37 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:41:37 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station209.thegrid.net [209.162.3.209]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08014; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371E6231.9D9E8006@thegrid.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:41:37 -0700 From: BreakBeat X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: location scouts.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Totally, I think this is one of the best threads in awhileI don't believe all the locations that could be have been considered either. We seem stuck in SF and Oakland, granted almost all the best parties i have attended have been in SF locations, however, what about Berkeley? Anyone ever tried to throw a party over there? Theres tons of warehouses and what not off of Gilman and in that whole industrial area, how about San Leandro? Pleasanton? Dublin? Livermore? Walnut Creek? Most of the East Bay seems undiscovered. If people have tried and none of those cities permit, then let me know, otherwise it might be something to look into. symmetry TeKnODiVa@aol.com wrote: > I have to say I'm really happy that people are showing an interest in > finding new, permittable locations. Maybe it is a result of the overuse and > shutting down of certain locations, but the more effort we put forth the more > we are going to come up with. I think we should have some sort of lookout > group that finds locations and throws parties there! It seems like so many > people/promoters are focused on "JUST throwing a party" that they don't > bother to find a dope new locations. And granted, a lot of it has to do with > permits.. but the bay area is no midwestern town, folks.. we do have lots of > buildings and whatnot. I'm sure with some effort and coming together on our > part we might be able to dig up some really dope, new spaces. It's an > evolution... spaces close down, new ones open up. Is that art place everyone > is talking about near Dore by any chance?? I remember there is a NICE little > two room space over by Dore that was used for some Burning man exhibits and > concerts.. clean bathrooms, too. > Your mission: find new warehouses!!! > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the tekno diva > > "Be a part... stand apart." > -puscha meets trade, Ibiza From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:49:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14202 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:49:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 14178 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:49:50 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:49:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 23968 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:49:49 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:49:49 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station209.thegrid.net [209.162.3.209]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA20349; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371E641D.3839C39D@thegrid.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:49:49 -0700 From: BreakBeat X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence References: <924733798.21917.771@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > I agree that it is very important to recognize the influence lyrics, media, > movies can have over you. I agree compeltely that the desensitized way we look > at violence is one of the reasons for things like the killings in texas. > However, the problem is, some people say that because we can trace violence to > obsenity and violence in music and media, that we should regulate the media. > This I disagree with 100% obviously. *We* need to recognize it's influence > and handle it ourselves, what we don't need is people telling us what it is > and is not ok to watch/listen to. symmetry > > this all came back to me last night watching the news, where the media is > grasping for ways to categorize these fucked up high school children who > worked together to create a scene of total destruction against those they > apparently felt were against them. (sorry, i can't muster up to much > sympathy for them personally, no matter how sad their lives, i don't see > them as the victims) > > and i wonder what kind of music they were listening to, what kind of beats > and words they gravitated toward that they felt expressed the world they > live in. (the media said they liked "german techno punk" or something) > > this is just sharing a thought that i've had many times, that we must > recognize the power of words, not just in media and movies that we program > ourselves with (and don't tell me that's not "programming" becuase it is... > when you become insensitive to horrendous violence because you've seen it on > tv or moves over and over again, you have been programmed to accept it)... > > i think we all need to think about how the music we choose to listen to not > only expresses what we have inside of us, but it also creates who we are > inside and how we see the world. > > these are just my thoughts.... and i try to be aware of my music choices in > this context. > > another thing i wonder is if we'll see is that use of amphetamines played a > part in this tragedy... the paranoia that results from crystal or crank use > falls right in line with this scenario. > > it's a sad sad time for parents and children, for all the citizens of our > society... and hopefully a chance to see how we can make some changes that > shift the world we are creating around us. > > love, leslie > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:49:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14311 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:49:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 14186 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:49:52 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:49:52 -0000 Received: from KidOnix@aol.com (7982) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTALa27454; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:49:10 -0400 (EDT) From: KidOnix@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:48:57 EDT Subject: Re: location scouts.... To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: KidOnix@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey you know what would be a tight place to have a party at... that 2 story chucky cheese! I think its in San Jose or sumthing.. but its clean.. and big could probly fit 3 rooms.. and like theres stairs leading to the top floor where they have video games and stuff.. and the bottom floor has one of those ball rooms.. I doubt there is any chance in ever getting a permit for that.. but its nice to dream... *Kid Onix* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:52:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16610 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:52:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 16571 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:52:00 -0000 Received: from netcom3.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.103) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:52:00 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom3.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id QAA04905; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:51:58 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: location scouts.... To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <371E6231.9D9E8006@thegrid.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ya know, the first "rave" i went to as a spectator was at the Rocknasium in Davis (back behind Murder Burger) back 'round 1993. i never heard of any other parties going on there, but the locaiton worked out really nicely. they had a smartdrink/juice bar out front, really nice lighting and visuals inside and a cute little "chill" area out back. i think that if someone could get back in there it would be quite cool! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 21 23:53:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17631 invoked by uid 6000); 21 Apr 1999 23:53:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 17609 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 23:53:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 23:53:16 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 246; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:51:04 -0700 Message-ID: <371E6827.F6EDCF3A@hrg.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:07:04 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KidOnix@aol.com CC: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: location scouts.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HA HA!!! Its been done! It was around 93 or 94 and it was pretty cool :) (the ball room was the shit!) Unfortunatly from what I understand SJ wont give out permits for all night parties anymore. john r KidOnix@aol.com wrote: > hey you know what would be a tight place to have a party at... that 2 story > chucky cheese! I think its in San Jose or sumthing.. but its clean.. and big > could probly fit 3 rooms.. and like theres stairs leading to the top floor > where they have video games and stuff.. and the bottom floor has one of those > ball rooms.. I doubt there is any chance in ever getting a permit for that.. > but its nice to dream... > > *Kid Onix* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 00:00:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22673 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 00:00:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 22563 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 00:00:13 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 00:00:13 -0000 Received: from KidOnix@aol.com (7982) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id qEERa18507; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: KidOnix@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:58:20 EDT Subject: Re: Re: location scouts.... To: johnr@hrg.com, KidOnix@aol.com CC: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: KidOnix@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk haha.. are you serious?.. who threw the party?.. I wonder if we could get away with throwing an underground there?.. johnr@hrg.com wrote: < hey you know what would be a tight place to have a party at... that 2 story > chucky cheese! I think its in San Jose or sumthing.. but its clean.. and big > could probly fit 3 rooms.. and like theres stairs leading to the top floor > where they have video games and stuff.. and the bottom floor has one of those > ball rooms.. I doubt there is any chance in ever getting a permit for that.. > but its nice to dream... > > *Kid Onix* >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 00:02:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23831 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 00:02:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 23792 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 00:02:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 00:02:46 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 284; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:00:34 -0700 Message-ID: <371E6A61.41FAA06A@hrg.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:16:34 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KidOnix@aol.com CC: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: location scouts.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have no idea who threw it. There was one at the Chuck E Cheese in Marin also around the same time. 10.95 (weird price) got you admission, all you could eat pizza, and all the tokens you wanted. And it went till 6am, although the music wasnt all that great. john r KidOnix@aol.com wrote: > haha.. are you serious?.. who threw the party?.. I wonder if we could get > away with throwing an underground there?.. > > johnr@hrg.com wrote: > > < (the ball room was the shit!) Unfortunatly from what I understand SJ wont > give > out permits for all night parties anymore. > > john r > > KidOnix@aol.com wrote: > > > hey you know what would be a tight place to have a party at... that 2 story > > chucky cheese! I think its in San Jose or sumthing.. but its clean.. and big > > could probly fit 3 rooms.. and like theres stairs leading to the top floor > > where they have video games and stuff.. and the bottom floor has one of > those > > ball rooms.. I doubt there is any chance in ever getting a permit for that.. > > but its nice to dream... > > > > *Kid Onix* > > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 00:06:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25682 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 00:06:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 25674 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 00:06:40 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 00:06:40 -0000 Received: from emfpc-3b (emf-14.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.214]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA16680; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904220006.RAA16680@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: chrispeee@yahoo.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:08:32 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the negativity, "chrisp," but perhaps next time you should be a little more consistent, and instead of attacking one small, random, humor thread, you should acknowledge that posts like "Where are you from?" generate hundreds of replies, most of them a single line naming a city. Rafie On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:15:28 -0700 (PDT), chrispeee@yahoo.com wrote... >--- Rafie wrote: >> David hasn't made me any food yet. Im kinda sketched cause he told me its >a >> family tradition to spit in food you make for friends n family before you >> serve it to them. >[Snip] > >Why did we all have to read this? > >Everyone, this is a perfect example of a message that did not need to go to >the >list. Please respect ALL the list members and keep personal messages >between >the persons who give a sh*t. Things posted to the list should be relevant >to >the list, it's really not a hard concept to grasp. > >What's the big deal you ask? Well, while some of us (like me) will simply >filter your messages into the trash, others may not have that capability, >and >eventually leave. Every time someone leaves due to the kind of >cyber-tagging >above, the whole list community is dimminished. Think of all the cool >posts by >people like Leslie or AndyW that you don't get to read when you drive >people >away with you inane chatter. > >Get it? > >chrisp > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 00:13:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28941 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 00:13:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 28932 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 00:13:24 -0000 Received: from f151.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 00:13:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 67729 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 00:12:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422001216.67728.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:12:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: T R A N Q U I L I T Y (think again) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:12:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have to say that the only thing that I'm thinking...well, more wondering than thinking, about TRANQUILITY is where I can get presales or reserve tickets or whatever. Regardless of anything, this sounds like it's gonna be a cool party thrown by someone who is interested in the well-being of the scene and who loves the music. And that's all that really matters to me. If anyone has any info on where it's gonna be (if that's been released yet) or where to get tickets, please write me back privately. Thanks!!! Sharpe _ _ / \ ____ / \ / / \ \ \ / \ / \| /\ /\ |/ ---| V |--- /| \ | / |\ / \ \/\/ / \ \__________/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 00:30:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7048 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 00:30:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 7040 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 00:30:25 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 00:30:25 -0000 Received: from BlueWAK@aol.com (316) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oVEVa24482; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:25:53 -0400 (EDT) From: BlueWAK@aol.com Message-ID: <8a0caefb.244fc689@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:25:45 EDT Subject: Re: negative words and violence To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Reply-To: BlueWAK@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FYI Leslie: In watching a five minute news clip on the two boys that did the shooting these things were mentioned... 1) The Matrix: The similarity of the shooting scene with the trenchcoats was mentioned 2) Marilyn Manson was one of their favorite "artists" (I use the term loosely) 3) They were addicted to a video game that the main objective was to shoot as many of the "bad guys" as you could 4) The boys were fascinated with Hitler's b-day (maybe the 4/20 connection) 5) They had recently been in chat rooms telling people to watch out and wait for the 20th of April..."stay tuned...".....(clues maybe???) 6) They were fascinated with Goth lifestyle and very involved in such on the internet These connections were brought about in just a 5 minute news clip... Just one more thought if you have any amount of sympthay for these boys (which I don't)..not only did they KILL these kids....but went as far as to BOOBIE TRAP the bodies...SICK!!!....some of the bodies are still in the school untouched at this time...the parent's haven't even had that closure yet...let alone being able to begin their mourning process...I can't even begin to imagine...my thoughts and prayers are with all of those affected... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 00:47:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14761 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 00:47:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 14736 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 00:47:14 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 00:47:14 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (535) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id qCUIa26763; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:45:56 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <4c232d00.244fcb42@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:45:54 EDT Subject: Re: location scouts.... To: KidOnix@aol.com, johnr@hrg.com CC: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Theres a nice sized warehouse near my house (next to my school) in danville that was a big pool hall for a while and a carpet cleaner place after that. im preety sure its empty now, and theres a nice sized parking lot, real bathrooms matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 00:57:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20787 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 00:57:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 20763 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 00:57:09 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 00:57:09 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (306) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXWKa19334 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:56:31 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:56:29 EDT Subject: Re: Re: location scouts....Grange Hall? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Reply-To: GParry1925@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think you're thinking of Grange Hall right? I know they're going to throw some sort of hip hop party there with a Wild 107 DJ, but I don't know what time the City of Danvile will let you go till. My friend threw a 20 person birthday party there last weekend, os its gotta be pretty damn cheap to rent. They've had punk rock shows there for like $3, so hey. If anyone wants to seriously look into it, I'm up. Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 01:04:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25067 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 01:04:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 25057 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 01:04:01 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 01:04:01 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29440; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:04:22 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu To: leslie.ayres@excite.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence In-Reply-To: <924733798.21917.771@excite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > but i don't think we *can* tune things out, and i think that listening to > negeative rap or angry punk rock or stupid aggressive shit in general, with > words of hate and violence, with anger and agression in the lyrics... i > think this stuff goes right into your brain, whether you notice or not. > Leslie, it's vital to the integrity of our scene for us to be just as tolerant and accepting of others and other forms of music and expression as we would like them to be of our's. We are no more enlightened than they. Our "positive" messages (I dunno about this girl, I've heard some shit like "your son is dead") may not hold true for others. ((( l0ve always ))) Nico www.entic.net/~nico nico@entic.net From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 01:10:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28261 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 01:10:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 28156 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 01:09:56 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 01:09:56 -0000 Received: from DnBbaebeee@aol.com (14383) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKEWa22861 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:09:13 -0400 (EDT) From: DnBbaebeee@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:09:11 EDT Subject: NRR: Media coverage of Denver shootings To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Reply-To: DnBbaebeee@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/21/99 3:47:10 PM EST, hernancz@sirius.com writes: << The news is appalling! The headlines, the sound bites, the photos, the testimonials from all over the world; all are very disturbing. It seems to me it's inappropriate to quip about the ugliness and more appropriate to resolve to improve our various conditions. >> That's why I don't watch it. I prefer to get my news over the radio, where I don't have to suffer through the perfectly primped news anchor posturing for the camera and trying to sound and look concerned and like s/he gives a shit about what s/he's talking about. I don't like the menacing music that news shows play in the backround to suck you into a particularly tragic story, and I can't stand the format in which it's presented, as if the murder of 25 kids is some goddamn "movie of the week." But my point is that it's pointless to bitch about this stuff. When the general public hears of something as tragic as the murder of 25 kids, we are deeply saddened and disturbed by it. When a member of the news media hears of it, it's a "great story," and they move in on it and exploit it every way they can, while our interest as viewers is still fresh. That's not to say that all the media members are callous pricks who don't care about the death of a child, but to them it's business. To most of the rest of us, it's a tragic event. I don't want to see the media coverage of the murders because I don't want to hear about Suzie or Jim's last minutes alive, and I certainly don't want to see the (alleged) killers turned into darkly romantic and tortured kids, as is surely being done. It was a sick thing that happened, and I would like to see the families and friends of those murdered refrain from allowing themselves to be manipulated by the media, who are only looking to increase their profit margins. Because after all, this stuff certrainly sells, and people watch it. It wouldn't be this way if we didn't make it so. *kerrie* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 01:20:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5783 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 01:20:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 5586 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 01:20:01 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 01:20:00 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (535) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVGKa24494; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:19:02 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:18:38 EDT Subject: Re: location scouts....Grange Hall? To: GParry1925@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk actually i wasnt thinking bout grange hall but damn that would work too, and why were on the subject of local concert venues, the vets hall downtown would work too... i know the manager and i bet i could talk him into it, the only problems with vets and the grange is they arent that big... but grange has a small kitchen area that could be used as a chill room matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 01:20:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6825 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 01:20:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 6816 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 01:20:51 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 01:20:51 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA29554 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990421182416.00805bc0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:24:16 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: re: location scouts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 04:51 PM 4/21/99 -0700, unclenoah wrote: > >ya know, the first "rave" i went to as a spectator was at the Rocknasium >in Davis (back behind Murder Burger) back 'round 1993. They have used the rocknasium in Sac for a few Aurora parties as well... they initially had problwms with the space though since the foam stuff on the floors was hard to dance on but they put carpet on top for a recent party and made it into a lovely party space.... they are surely some rocknasiums in the bay area that could be used, yes??? maybe??? -Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 01:36:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15670 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 01:36:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 15656 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 01:36:43 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 01:36:43 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com (8040) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZTPa17922 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:35:12 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:34:59 EDT Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There are some things wrong with 2nd and Jax, we all know this, we all know what is wrong with it too, we don't need to make lists. I know also that some parties there have been really awesome, I went to the 2nd party ever thrown there and that party was heat bearable and all, granted this also depends on the promoter which is another obvious statement, What I don't understand is why the most obvious problem to this place is not taken care of... I think we all could handle the dirt problem, and the neighboorhood problem if only promoters would let a whole lot less people in, So what if that place CAN hold 2500, or 2000 people in it legally, the question promoters should start asking themselves is, how many people can this venue COMFORTABLLY hold? sure it means a bunch less tix sold, but isn't comfort and danceability of a party way more important than how many people we can squeeze in and how much $ we make... maybe parties are gonna have to be held at a lower budget level in order to keep them fun, BUT!! there are some sacraficese to be made We can't expect GREAT visuals and tons of great DJ's if the people throwing these parties aren't making as much money... an we know how that goes right?? People can ALWAYS find something to bitch about right?? PLUR everyone... keep your heads up and stay as positive as possible, not everything can be perfect all the time - Jenn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 01:36:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16080 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 01:36:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 15967 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 01:36:50 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 01:36:50 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (2612) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMSOa24482; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:35:09 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:35:03 EDT Subject: Re: a good party place.... To: Kalika1196@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 99-04-21 16:51:52 EDT, you write: << and is has real bathrooms >> Real bathrooms you can't get to with all the druggies layin all over the floor with there lines and there chemicals..... hehehe <3 amber From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 01:54:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24354 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 01:54:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 24338 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 01:54:32 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 01:54:32 -0000 Received: from Kalika1196@aol.com (3938) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTUTa14183; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:53:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Kalika1196@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:53:06 EDT Subject: Re: a good party place.... To: JUNGurlE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: Kalika1196@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk actaully, the bathrooms have never been a problem getting too, they have always been very accessable to me! trisha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 01:58:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26734 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 01:58:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 26723 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 01:58:23 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 01:58:23 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-21.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.21]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA14039 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990422003133.006bb440@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:31:33 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: Re: negative words and violence Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not to dis you but like, only points 4 and 5 are relevant to the situation. The rest were proved to be like, smokescreens in a sense, BS contrived by the media. Instead of seeing the boys as prolly not having the mental capability of expressing their emotions..they[media] say it was because of such n such and this and this, yet one needs to be completely fucked up already to be influenced in such a way in my opinion. Ya know they had one kid on the media who actually spread a little truth on them, he said "They were not a mafia they just were black trench coats there wasn't anything mafia/gang like them. They would sometimes provoke the insults they get by holding hands (two boys holding hands, in a high school in colorado hrm) and doing stuff like that. They did have a fascination of Nazi's and Hitler though.." Sounds like someone took the Mein Kumpf, to heart. If you can't feel compassion for the whole situation then fine, but like don't listen to the media. As was written about earlier, the media has almost no concept of what is going on except that it gets ratings and new topics for shows and movies. Nuku At 08:25 PM 4/21/99 EDT, you wrote: >FYI Leslie: > >In watching a five minute news clip on the two boys that did the shooting >these things were mentioned... > >1) The Matrix: The similarity of the shooting scene with the trenchcoats was >mentioned > >2) Marilyn Manson was one of their favorite "artists" (I use the term >loosely) > >3) They were addicted to a video game that the main objective was to shoot >as many of the "bad guys" as you could > >4) The boys were fascinated with Hitler's b-day (maybe the 4/20 connection) > >5) They had recently been in chat rooms telling people to watch out and wait >for the 20th of April..."stay tuned...".....(clues maybe???) > >6) They were fascinated with Goth lifestyle and very involved in such on the >internet > >These connections were brought about in just a 5 minute news clip... > >Just one more thought if you have any amount of sympthay for these boys >(which I don't)..not only did they KILL these kids....but went as far as to >BOOBIE TRAP the bodies...SICK!!!....some of the bodies are still in the >school untouched at this time...the parent's haven't even had that closure >yet...let alone being able to begin their mourning process...I can't even >begin to imagine...my thoughts and prayers are with all of those affected... > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 02:18:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9685 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 02:18:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 9675 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 02:18:53 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 02:18:53 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (573) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iWGCa14181; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:11:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <72d4a895.244fdf14@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:10:28 EDT Subject: rave funk!!! To: stargurl@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/21/99 12:58:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, stargurl@hotmail.com writes: << Anyone ever notice that weird distinct smell you get after partying there? I call it rave funk. >> yup yup, that's what i've always refered to as not only the smell, but the dirt, and smoke and sweat and grime that you find on your clothes, hair, skin, under your nails and god knows where else after leaving any party!! not just at 2nd and jax either, it seems to be everywhere... so my personal rule, don't wear anything too nice that can't be easily cleaned, and always bring anti-bacterial hand gel stuff... oh and i bring some astringent and stuff in the car so i can clean my face off right as i leave... =) eeewww... i remember the rave funk from my first party, was amoung the worst, but what do u expect from the "dirty place" (aka 85th and baldwin) lol!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 02:21:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11040 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 02:21:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 11024 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 02:21:43 -0000 Received: from pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu (130.132.143.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 02:21:43 -0000 Received: from [130.132.53.92] (audioboy.sm.yale.edu [130.132.53.92]) by pantheon-po01.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00394; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: Sam Luckenbill@sbl23.mail.yale.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990421225209.84949.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:21:39 -0400 To: "ve anne" From: Samuel Luckenbill Subject: Re: 1200's for sale Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk be careful, don't get screwed. It's probably not for real. --sam At 10:52 PM +0000 4/21/99, ve anne wrote: >this is not a NRR. wanna know why? >raves->music->dj->turntables! so :P > >check it out! it's at $610 for the pair right now. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=94021807 > > >Pair of Technics 1200 mk2 series professional direct drive >turntables. Both units are in EXCELLENT condition. Features include: >Direct Drive Quartz Synthesizer, quartz locked continuous pitch >adjustment up to +/-8%, low mass tone arm with gimbal suspension, RCA >outputs, anti-skate, pitch control and pop-up light. Everything is >working PERFECTLY inside and out. Cosmetically, no dents or scratches. > >The tables are about two years old. However, they've probably only >been used about 25 times with no more than 50 hours of play time. I >bought them with intentions of getting into mixing but I have just >been too busy with work to find the time to practice seriously. > >Comes with: > >2 STANTON D6800EL cartridges with needles/stylus > > >2 Genz Benz FLIGHT READY turntable cases (these are INDIVIDUAL hard >cases with steel reinforced corners for each turntable (NOT A COFFIN) >and originally sold for ($130.00 each) > > >2 scratch pads >Pair of Technics 1200 mk2 series professional direct drive >turntables. Both units are in EXCELLENT condition. Features include: >Direct Drive Quartz Synthesizer, quartz locked continuous pitch >adjustment up to +/-8%, low mass tone arm with gimbal suspension, RCA >outputs, anti-skate, pitch control and pop-up light. Everything is >working PERFECTLY inside and out. Cosmetically, no dents or scratches. > >The tables are about two years old. However, they've probably only >been used about 25 times with no more than 50 hours of play time. I >bought them with intentions of getting into mixing but I have just >been too busy with work to find the time to practice seriously. > >Comes with: >*2 STANTON D6800EL cartridges with needles/stylus > >*2 Genz Benz FLIGHT READY turntable cases (these are INDIVIDUAL hard >cases with steel reinforced corners for each turntable (NOT A COFFIN) >and originally sold for ($130.00 each) > >*2 scratch pads From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 02:31:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14581 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 02:31:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 14551 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 02:31:09 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 02:31:09 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (14403) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXIHa09416; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:30:06 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:30:04 EDT Subject: Re: rave funk!!! To: MoonChyld1@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i call this gangly shit "BLAH"....cuz thats the feeling you have on your skin after the party. ever notice the black shit that comes outta your nose!....ewwww.... clean your ears after too! ~Samantha In a message dated 4/21/99 7:19:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MoonChyld1@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 4/21/99 12:58:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > stargurl@hotmail.com writes: > > << Anyone ever notice that weird distinct smell you get > after partying there? I call it rave funk. >> > > > yup yup, that's what i've always refered to as not only the smell, but the > dirt, and smoke and sweat and grime that you find on your clothes, hair, > skin, under your nails and god knows where else after leaving any party!! > not > just at 2nd and jax either, it seems to be everywhere... so my personal rule, > > don't wear anything too nice that can't be easily cleaned, and always bring > anti-bacterial hand gel stuff... oh and i bring some astringent and stuff in > > the car so i can clean my face off right as i leave... =) eeewww... i > remember the rave funk from my first party, was amoung the worst, but what > do > u expect from the "dirty place" (aka 85th and baldwin) lol!!! > > love and hugs and kisses, > tina > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 02:47:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24708 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 02:47:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 24698 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 02:46:59 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 02:46:59 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (7983) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIFa027453 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:45:05 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <7ebfa01.244fe72d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:45:01 EDT Subject: nnr:Re: negative words and violence To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it's really sad that the kids were warning people about the shootings because that just indicates a cry for help. most kids who are SERIOUS about commiting suicide don't tell anyone cuz they are beyod help and can't see that anyone loves them but kids who tell people they are thinking about doing it, usually are asking for love and attention. now i'm not saying that the kids who talk about it aren't going to end up commiting suicide, but it's not as likely. i don't want any flames thrown at me for this, i just studied this in my health class so i am pretty accurate. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 02:53:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29717 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 02:53:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 29705 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 02:53:11 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 02:53:11 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (90) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iHPIa27454; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:35:20 EDT Subject: Re: how much money do the promoters actually make? To: nngo@velos.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This isn't even a valid question. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 03:03:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5264 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 03:03:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 5250 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 03:03:28 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd91.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.155) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 03:03:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 17966 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 03:03:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422030300.17965.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.67.210 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:03:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.67.210] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: rave funk!!! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:03:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i know what cha mean.. i always like wear my ghetto clothes i don't care about when i rave cuz it usualy gets all dirty n messed up.hehe.. n ya hair smells like cigs for like a day or two.. that sucks.. n itz nasty.. david ----Original Message Follows---- From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com To: stargurl@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: rave funk!!! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:10:28 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 From sfraves-owner-raver_hp Wed Apr 21 19:19:03 1999 Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (1.5) with SMTP id MHotMailB8E7D2170055D1017077D1855310128F0; Wed Apr 21 19:19:03 1999 Received: (qmail 9685 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 02:18:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 9675 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 02:18:53 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9)by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 02:18:53 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (573)by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iWGCa14181;Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <72d4a895.244fdf14@aol.com> X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/21/99 12:58:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, stargurl@hotmail.com writes: << Anyone ever notice that weird distinct smell you get after partying there? I call it rave funk. >> yup yup, that's what i've always refered to as not only the smell, but the dirt, and smoke and sweat and grime that you find on your clothes, hair, skin, under your nails and god knows where else after leaving any party!! not just at 2nd and jax either, it seems to be everywhere... so my personal rule, don't wear anything too nice that can't be easily cleaned, and always bring anti-bacterial hand gel stuff... oh and i bring some astringent and stuff in the car so i can clean my face off right as i leave... =) eeewww... i remember the rave funk from my first party, was amoung the worst, but what do u expect from the "dirty place" (aka 85th and baldwin) lol!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 03:18:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12534 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 03:18:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 12355 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 03:18:25 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 03:18:25 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (300) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXPIa18510 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:44:01 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:43:59 EDT Subject: Parties at Chuck E Cheese (was location scouts...) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Reply-To: GParry1925@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah! I went to this party at Chuck E Cheese a reeeeeal long time ago. It was totally off the hook! You paid for whatever type of pizza you wanted and then could go and play games and shit. There were hella little kids all running around and having a blast. The vibe was awsome! And instead of having DJ's and lights they had giant robotic mice and dogs that talked and sang. And instead of having dance music they had badass kiddy songs and stuff like that. One of the best parties I've ever been to.... Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 03:51:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24290 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 03:51:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 24277 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 03:51:17 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 03:51:17 -0000 Received: from Sera13@aol.com (8028) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYKJa26762 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:40:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Sera13@aol.com Message-ID: <15289a18.244ff427@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:40:23 EDT Subject: DJ SHINE ...=0) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Sera13@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Good evening...... I was wondering if anyone had some info about DJ SHINE from Canada? latEs.(0~ ---cHerRiEs) SeRA From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 03:51:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24828 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 03:51:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 24734 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 03:51:27 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 03:51:27 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA14265; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990421205450.007fdc20@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:54:50 -0700 To: GParry1925@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: Parties at Chuck E Cheese (was location scouts...) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah!!!!!!!!!! And they had that huge ocean of little plastic balls that you could like swim in and jump up and down in and stuff, and the one I went to had this big fun house with mazes and mirrors and stuff. And if you won tickets at the games, you could actually win cheap little toys. And I never had to lie to my parents about going to a party at Chuck E's.... they took me there and even paid for me!!!!!!!!!! Geeezzz, those were the days. Those were definately the best parties ever... I've never seen so many happy kids! Love, Carly **Makes you wish you were five years old again At 10:43 PM 4/21/99 EDT, you wrote: >Yeah! I went to this party at Chuck E Cheese a reeeeeal long time ago. It >was totally off the hook! You paid for whatever type of pizza you wanted and >then could go and play games and shit. There were hella little kids all >running around and having a blast. The vibe was awsome! And instead of >having DJ's and lights they had giant robotic mice and dogs that talked and >sang. And instead of having dance music they had badass kiddy songs and >stuff like that. One of the best parties I've ever been to.... > >Owen > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 04:01:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 423 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 04:01:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 411 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 04:01:15 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 04:01:15 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA03384 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:01:13 -0700 Message-ID: <00f501be8c75$0ee67880$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: rave funk!!! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:03:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk and we all know that the build-up of gook on the bottom of fatpants is called 'raver sludge'! :) for its prevention, i have no advice!! alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: MoonChyld1@aol.com To: stargurl@hotmail.com ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 7:19 PM Subject: rave funk!!! >In a message dated 4/21/99 12:58:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >stargurl@hotmail.com writes: > ><< Anyone ever notice that weird distinct smell you get > after partying there? I call it rave funk. >> > > >yup yup, that's what i've always refered to as not only the smell, but the >dirt, and smoke and sweat and grime that you find on your clothes, hair, >skin, under your nails and god knows where else after leaving any party!! not >just at 2nd and jax either, it seems to be everywhere... so my personal rule, >don't wear anything too nice that can't be easily cleaned, and always bring >anti-bacterial hand gel stuff... oh and i bring some astringent and stuff in >the car so i can clean my face off right as i leave... =) eeewww... i >remember the rave funk from my first party, was amoung the worst, but what do >u expect from the "dirty place" (aka 85th and baldwin) lol!!! > >love and hugs and kisses, >tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 04:10:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6967 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 04:10:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 6934 invoked by uid 233); 22 Apr 1999 04:10:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 10225 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 03:15:44 -0000 Received: from mail-gw3.pacbell.net (206.13.28.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 03:15:44 -0000 Received: from pacbell (adsl-216-103-81-151.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.103.81.151]) by mail-gw3.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id UAA27652; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <003a01be8c34$de44ee40$975167d8@pacbell.net.blood> From: "Jay \(Blood\)" To: "ve anne" , "Samuel Luckenbill" Cc: Subject: Re: 1200's for sale Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:23:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, E-Bay _is_ real, and the auctions are really great. I recently picked up a 1200 off of ebay for 275 bucks, in very good condition. I also just picked up a sony MZ-R55 (Minidisc recorder/player) from an E-Bay auction for 195 bucks (with 10 minidiscs) in amazing condition. E-Bay is a really great place to get some cheap shite! A word of advice though, use an online escrow agent for payment (www.iescrow.com for example). This allows you to send payment to the escrow company, then the seller ships you the merchandise. You then have 2 days to inspect it and approve of the purchase, then the escrow company cuts a check to the seller. Sweet deal =) my .02 Love & Music, -Jay -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Luckenbill To: ve anne Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 2:20 AM Subject: Re: 1200's for sale >be careful, don't get screwed. It's probably not for real. > >--sam > >At 10:52 PM +0000 4/21/99, ve anne wrote: >>this is not a NRR. wanna know why? >>raves->music->dj->turntables! so :P >> >>check it out! it's at $610 for the pair right now. >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=94021807 >> >> >>Pair of Technics 1200 mk2 series professional direct drive >>turntables. Both units are in EXCELLENT condition. Features include: >>Direct Drive Quartz Synthesizer, quartz locked continuous pitch >>adjustment up to +/-8%, low mass tone arm with gimbal suspension, RCA >>outputs, anti-skate, pitch control and pop-up light. Everything is >>working PERFECTLY inside and out. Cosmetically, no dents or scratches. >> >>The tables are about two years old. However, they've probably only >>been used about 25 times with no more than 50 hours of play time. I >>bought them with intentions of getting into mixing but I have just >>been too busy with work to find the time to practice seriously. >> >>Comes with: >> >>2 STANTON D6800EL cartridges with needles/stylus >> >> >>2 Genz Benz FLIGHT READY turntable cases (these are INDIVIDUAL hard >>cases with steel reinforced corners for each turntable (NOT A COFFIN) >>and originally sold for ($130.00 each) >> >> >>2 scratch pads >>Pair of Technics 1200 mk2 series professional direct drive >>turntables. Both units are in EXCELLENT condition. Features include: >>Direct Drive Quartz Synthesizer, quartz locked continuous pitch >>adjustment up to +/-8%, low mass tone arm with gimbal suspension, RCA >>outputs, anti-skate, pitch control and pop-up light. Everything is >>working PERFECTLY inside and out. Cosmetically, no dents or scratches. >> >>The tables are about two years old. However, they've probably only >>been used about 25 times with no more than 50 hours of play time. I >>bought them with intentions of getting into mixing but I have just >>been too busy with work to find the time to practice seriously. >> >>Comes with: >>*2 STANTON D6800EL cartridges with needles/stylus >> >>*2 Genz Benz FLIGHT READY turntable cases (these are INDIVIDUAL hard >>cases with steel reinforced corners for each turntable (NOT A COFFIN) >>and originally sold for ($130.00 each) >> >>*2 scratch pads > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 04:18:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11354 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 04:18:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11345 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 04:18:47 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 04:18:47 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8SHVL5T; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:18:34 EDT To: HppyXTC@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:13:37 -0700 Subject: Re: Review of 420 - Thank you!! Message-ID: <19990421.212151.-187305.10.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-6,11-28 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah thank you girl for organizing this, thank you everyone who was there smokin, and of course, thank you mary jane for being tha bomb girl you always will be! Peace, Theresa ps to anyone who saw me high and stuck or drunk with my 40 and then kinda passed out (I was awake but the room kept spinning whenever I opened my eyes) sitting down in the living room for like 3 hours (I have red hair and was dressed in a stoner shirt and green cargos), what's up, happy 420, and hope to see you joint in hand at the million marijuana march!!!! On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:45:40 EDT HppyXTC@aol.com writes: >I want to thank everyone that came out to the 420 party in San Jose >yesterday! I had such a great time with all of you. The people we >had out >there were so positive and fun! The music was great and (hopefully) >everyone >had a great time. Thanks again to everyone that came out to spin, and >all of >you who brought food and smiles, and thanks most of all to Stephen and >Mike >for letting us hang out at your house all day!! We must do this >again!! > >Love, Heather > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 05:15:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14055 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 05:15:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 13943 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 05:15:18 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd95.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.159) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 05:15:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 36584 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 05:14:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422051451.36583.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 143.183.152.14 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:14:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [143.183.152.14] From: "cassandra thomas" To: stargurl@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: possible spot? Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:14:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Cell isn't used more for two reasons: one, they are booked solid with other things than raves two, the last time i talked to cell they had decided to limit the use of Cell as a dance hall to "Sweet" -Cassandra >From: "Amber Leahey" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: possible spot? >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:40 PDT > >I was at this great little party a few years back at an artist >community(I believe) called Cell or Cells. The name of the party was >Cell-sius. From what I understand they will have parties there once in >a while if it's for a benefit, like food for the homeless. It's in San >Francisco and God knows where it's at cause I don't remember. It's a >semi-small but hella sweet location. It would be great for a starup or >few hundred people location. Did anyone else ever go there? Maybe it >doesn't exist anymore. Just trying to help. > >Amber (A.K.A. st*rgrrl) >"Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb"-Dark >Helmet(Spaceballs the Movie) > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 05:19:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20702 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 05:19:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20676 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 05:19:33 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.171) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 05:19:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 68696 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 05:19:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422051909.68695.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 143.183.152.14 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:19:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [143.183.152.14] From: "cassandra thomas" To: etraver@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SRR[Fwd: a good party place....] Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:19:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk caesar's is not caesar's anymore...it is roccapulco(sp?) and weekends seem's to be reserved for salsa and et al. latin dancing... -cass >From: Elizabeth Traver >Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: SRR[Fwd: a good party place....] >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:01:08 -0800 > >Since this question was brought up....Does anyboy know why the following >locations are NO longer used: > >1) Ceaser's Latin Palace-- All of the house parties were thrown there in >96 and 97--Not that I like this spot(very hot and stuffy) but it holds >about 500 people I'd assume. > >2) The location that the last By the People party was thrown in late >97'. It was in Oakland in these portable type things. It had two large >rooms and a third room that was used as a walk through type space. >There was convienent parking and it was really cold inside(until you >start dancing ofcourse), but I think it was really dirty. > >3) Also in late 97', a LOVE(Sf House Collective) party was thrown about >15 to 20 minutes beyond the G.Gate bridge. It was one room that held >about 400 or so people-. There was tons of parking right outside the >location but it only went till 5- > > >> ok, ive only been to one party here, and they've only had 2, but it seems to >> be a really good location for parties, smaller parties. its the phoenix in >> petaluma. its pretty clean, and is has real bathrooms. it didnt get too hot >> when i was there, and there is an accessable water fountain. imo i think >> promoters should have more parties there! the parties that were held there we >> sparkle, and beautiful people in january. >> >> trisha > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 05:53:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3991 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 05:53:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 3982 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 05:53:41 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 05:53:41 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14456) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3QGUa13188 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:52:58 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <437b5238.24501337@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:52:55 EDT Subject: Re: rave funk!!! To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Rave funk for me ORIGINATED at 85th and baldwin... I wore WHITE FUR PANTS!! and left with Black fur pants.. a sockline of dirt all the way up to my knee.. BUSHES sticking out of the furr on my pants from walking outside the warehouse... Inside of my nose was black.. my hands.. UGH! my Butt was filthy, my bag had a bottle of lotion explode in it.. (i won't even go there!) I haven't been that dirty since... except for the campout in september. But you know it's dirty when you have a friggin SOCK LINE! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "be a part... Stand apart." --puscha meets trade, Ibiza From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 06:04:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10356 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 06:04:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 10345 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 06:04:56 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 06:04:56 -0000 Received: from pm5-150.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id JHB4L0H4; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:03:23 -0700 Message-ID: <019a01be8c86$058bb1e0$96c9cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: re: rave funk! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:04:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0197_01BE8C4B.5895CA00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0197_01BE8C4B.5895CA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i was covered with rave funk after freedom 98! ok so it wasn't the = filthy warehouse variety.. more like red dirt sticking to my sweaty body = after dancing for 5 hours straight. that tank top is pretty much = ruined. and god you should have seen the inside of my aircondition-less = car.....=20 =3D)sooz ------=_NextPart_000_0197_01BE8C4B.5895CA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i was covered with rave funk after = freedom=20 98!  ok so it wasn't the filthy warehouse variety.. more like red = dirt=20 sticking to my sweaty body after dancing for 5 hours straight.  = that tank=20 top is pretty much ruined.  and god you should have seen the inside = of my=20 aircondition-less car.....
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0197_01BE8C4B.5895CA00-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 06:05:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10995 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 06:05:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10985 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 06:05:28 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 06:05:28 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14384) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xOKLa20238; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:03:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <1069afb4.245015a0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:03:12 EDT Subject: Re: location scouts.... To: breakbeat@thegrid.net, TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/21/99 7:41:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, breakbeat@thegrid.net writes: << Totally, I think this is one of the best threads in awhileI don't believe all the locations that could be have been considered either. We seem stuck in SF and Oakland, granted almost all the best parties i have attended have been in SF locations, however, what about Berkeley? Anyone ever tried to throw a party over there? Theres tons of warehouses and what not off of Gilman and in that whole industrial area, how about San Leandro? Pleasanton? Dublin? Livermore? Walnut Creek? Most of the East Bay seems undiscovered. If people have tried and none of those cities permit, then let me know, otherwise it might be something to look into. >> yeah what about RICHMOND???? there are quite a few spots here....but make sure u stay away from north richmond. its bad out there....real bad DJMEGATRON: From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 06:13:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15211 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 06:13:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 15200 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 06:13:12 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 06:13:12 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA08287 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:13:10 -0700 Message-ID: <009801be8c87$7dbd8ac0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: [NWR] Alcohol @ Raves Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:15:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk damn those californians, and, oh! they were from san fran, good god no! :> i do see litter as a huge problem, and i am not sure how much alcohol contributes... but if it is some, there needs to be control. who is to enact this, i am not sure, but i imagine that the general atmosphere is what causes the careless attitude. this, or lack of garbage cans, or 'it doesn't matter' is no exuse for pollution at all, and i'm sure that this is a major part of planning outdoorsy events. alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: Trance-O-Maniac To: nw-raves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 9:56 PM Subject: RE: [NWR] Alcohol @ Raves >Regarding alcohol at raves - > >I mentioned this to Kim (last year - in September) and we thought that it >was a good idea to post it on the list- but at that time there was hardly >any feedback. > >Shall I mention it again? I think so. (Don't mind if I start rambling... >:)) > >The last outdoor party I went to Sept. 19-20 up at Mt. Baker. The party was >THE phattest. San Fran DJs. I guess Acquarius Swirl (Tony) put it on (New >Moon Festival was the party). >There were performances by: Dave (Vajra) {very HOT}, Anna from Blueroom, >Neal from CCC, and the electronic violinist (a duet of some sort). > >But, only going one day- the majority of the people were from San Fran. It >was like it was way too out of this world. The party was great (an >understatement). But, a couple of things really bothered me. > >Whenever the NW raves throw a party in the woods- we're so concerned with >the environment that we pick up after ourselves. They DID have beer cans - >like everywhere. I talked to one of the DJs... and they said - it's no big >deal (having a little alcohol out in the woods isn't going to hurt anyone). >I just told them that it wasn't our scene up here. But, the place was >really decorated at night time (with lots of art, etc.)- but the next >morning around the tents and wherever- it was a mess. > >So, appreciate it that you live in the NW. You're with a bunch of other >people that like to at least pitch in and clean up also. About the alcohol- >I didn't know it was there. Some don't. But, the other big thing is that I >wanted to tell who is ever DJing up here- that they might have themselves >some competition if CA DJs start coming to WA to throw outdoor parties. I >wouldn't want to see our scene get a bad rep. I hope someone out there at >least agrees with something I said (if not all- but you don't have to). > But - just FYI.... Had to mention it to you lovely peeps again. > >Peace > >T-O-M > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: nw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:nw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org] On >Behalf Of jovian f. >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 5:28 PM >To: nw-raves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [NWR] -alcohol @ raves- > > >>The reason for the negativity around booze and raves, besides the >>effects on ones senses and the lousy vibe it brings to a party..it is > >i dunno, i think a lot of meth at a party brings out a much worse vibe than >*moderate* quantities of alcohol.. >one of the major problems, apart from the people who inevitably won't know >their limits (true of any drug), is that when there're a fair number of >people drinking at a party, everybody gets tired really early and is passed >out by 3am.. ;) > >- jove > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 06:24:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19423 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 06:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 19403 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 06:24:30 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 06:24:30 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14384) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rLXAa03569; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:22:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <8c1027b6.24501a2d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:22:37 EDT Subject: Re: Parties at Chuck E Cheese (was location scouts...) To: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu, GParry1925@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/21/99 11:51:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << Yeah!!!!!!!!!! And they had that huge ocean of little plastic balls that you could like swim in and jump up and down in and stuff, and the one I went to had this big fun house with mazes and mirrors and stuff. And if you won tickets at the games, you could actually win cheap little toys. And I never had to lie to my parents about going to a party at Chuck E's.... they took me there and even paid for me!!!!!!!!!! Geeezzz, those were the days. Those were definately the best parties ever... I've never seen so many happy kids! Love, Carly **Makes you wish you were five years old again At 10:43 PM 4/21/99 EDT, you wrote: >Yeah! I went to this party at Chuck E Cheese a reeeeeal long time ago. It >was totally off the hook! You paid for whatever type of pizza you wanted and >then could go and play games and shit. There were hella little kids all >running around and having a blast. The vibe was awsome! And instead of >having DJ's and lights they had giant robotic mice and dogs that talked and >sang. And instead of having dance music they had badass kiddy songs and >stuff like that. One of the best parties I've ever been to.... > >Owen > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> yeah i think i want to get payed in tokens when i play at this party... ...i love me some tekken and street fighter. maybe i can play those rolling ball games and hit the gerbal games and win some tickets for some stuffed turntables and a stuffed mixer to remember this moment....yay i feel like a kid again DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 06:49:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27902 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 06:49:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 27892 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 06:49:55 -0000 Received: from law2-f17.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 06:49:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 71300 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 06:49:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422064928.71299.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:49:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [NWR] Alcohol @ Raves Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:49:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i used to hate having alcohol at raves. i originally started raving in hawaii, where it's always BYOB. i never liked the idea of it. i just thought that it didn't mix with the other drugs that were being used. it brought a whole different vibe to the scene. but then, i got worn out with doing drugs all the time and decided to take a break from all of it. after a while, i would just be drinking and i'd go to parties and drink. i think that it's ok, just as long as it's kept at certain level and doesn't get too out of hand. love lia >From: "Queen of Scots" >To: >Subject: Re: [NWR] Alcohol @ Raves >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:15:16 -0700 > > >damn those californians, and, oh! they were from san fran, good god no! :> >i do see litter as a huge problem, and i am not sure how much alcohol >contributes... but if it is some, there needs to be control. >who is to enact this, i am not sure, but i imagine that the general >atmosphere is what causes the careless attitude. this, or lack of garbage >cans, or 'it doesn't matter' is no exuse for pollution at all, and i'm sure >that this is a major part of planning outdoorsy events. > >alexis > >Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm >-------------------------------------------- >Whatever happened to the MC >Times done changed for the MC >Every woman and man wanna MC >But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. >-=- De La Sol > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Trance-O-Maniac >To: nw-raves@hyperreal.org >Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 9:56 PM >Subject: RE: [NWR] Alcohol @ Raves > > >>Regarding alcohol at raves - >> >>I mentioned this to Kim (last year - in September) and we thought that it >>was a good idea to post it on the list- but at that time there was hardly >>any feedback. >> >>Shall I mention it again? I think so. (Don't mind if I start rambling... >>:)) >> >>The last outdoor party I went to Sept. 19-20 up at Mt. Baker. The party >was >>THE phattest. San Fran DJs. I guess Acquarius Swirl (Tony) put it on (New >>Moon Festival was the party). >>There were performances by: Dave (Vajra) {very HOT}, Anna from Blueroom, >>Neal from CCC, and the electronic violinist (a duet of some sort). >> >>But, only going one day- the majority of the people were from San Fran. It >>was like it was way too out of this world. The party was great (an >>understatement). But, a couple of things really bothered me. >> >>Whenever the NW raves throw a party in the woods- we're so concerned with >>the environment that we pick up after ourselves. They DID have beer cans - >>like everywhere. I talked to one of the DJs... and they said - it's no big >>deal (having a little alcohol out in the woods isn't going to hurt anyone). >>I just told them that it wasn't our scene up here. But, the place was >>really decorated at night time (with lots of art, etc.)- but the next >>morning around the tents and wherever- it was a mess. >> >>So, appreciate it that you live in the NW. You're with a bunch of other >>people that like to at least pitch in and clean up also. About the >alcohol- >>I didn't know it was there. Some don't. But, the other big thing is that >I >>wanted to tell who is ever DJing up here- that they might have themselves >>some competition if CA DJs start coming to WA to throw outdoor parties. I >>wouldn't want to see our scene get a bad rep. I hope someone out there at >>least agrees with something I said (if not all- but you don't have to). >> But - just FYI.... Had to mention it to you lovely peeps again. >> >>Peace >> >>T-O-M >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: nw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:nw-raves- owner@hyperreal.org] On >>Behalf Of jovian f. >>Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 5:28 PM >>To: nw-raves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: [NWR] -alcohol @ raves- >> >> >>>The reason for the negativity around booze and raves, besides the >>>effects on ones senses and the lousy vibe it brings to a party..it is >> >>i dunno, i think a lot of meth at a party brings out a much worse vibe than >>*moderate* quantities of alcohol.. >>one of the major problems, apart from the people who inevitably won't know >>their limits (true of any drug), is that when there're a fair number of >>people drinking at a party, everybody gets tired really early and is passed >>out by 3am.. ;) >> >>- jove >> >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 07:08:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6855 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 07:08:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 6843 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 07:08:42 -0000 Received: from m1.jersey.juno.com (209.67.33.60) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 07:08:42 -0000 Received: (from supahstah@juno.com) by m1.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D8STKAGZ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:07:41 EDT To: unclenoa@netcom.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:53:44 -0700 Subject: Re: 420 Message-ID: <19990422.000650.-13789.1.supahstah@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-3,5-8,10-13,15-18,20-21 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Super Star Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it's worse when it's 4:20 on 4/20 and 4/20 is your birthday! but having 4/20 be my birthday makes up for it! :o) On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:19:17 -0700 (PDT) unclenoah writes: > >how depressing is it to be at work at 4:20 on 4/20? > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- >"Share a weekend with me, and together we'll transform the quality of > >your life--immediately and forever." - Tony Robbins >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons >714.558.7626 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 07:44:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17097 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 07:44:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 17088 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 07:44:23 -0000 Received: from m1.jersey.juno.com (209.67.33.60) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 07:44:23 -0000 Received: (from supahstah@juno.com) by m1.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D8SVMPA4; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:43:57 EDT To: BreakBeat@thegrid.net Cc: BodhiInSF@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:42:01 -0700 Subject: Re: H/Sshooting:Somt'ngsWrongWithWilliamBennit'sAmerica Message-ID: <19990422.004300.-13789.2.supahstah@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-4,6-37 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Super Star Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk then, after hitler messed up 4/20, i was born on 4/20/76 and made it good again... long live, my good vibes :O) heheh On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:43:05 -0700 BreakBeat writes: >> 4/20- Adolf Hitler's Birthday--- The day after the Waco >massacre--- And now >> the Littleton, Colorado High School massacre to add to the list of >not so >> positive things that happened on 4/20! >> > > 4/20 also happens to be 2 days after my oldest nephew's birthday and >just 8 days >before my other nephews birthday, so I think it's pretty positive but >still I >think you have a point. Prolly back a hundred years ago April 20th >was just your >average sort of karma day, then when Hitler was born on it and when >he became a >tyrant April 20th became invested with bad karma. These bad vibes >were so >terrible that even afterwards when we invented the slang 4:20 all the >cosmically >good vibes from cannabis couldn't totally rub out Hitlers negativity. >So now, >even though it is mostly full of good karma, thus it's relationship >with the >birth of my two nephews, occasionaly the dark side of April 20th leaks >out and we >have a massacre. > >*smiles* >symmetry > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 07:49:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19408 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 07:49:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 19400 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 07:49:33 -0000 Received: from law-f134.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.197) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 07:49:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 18721 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 07:49:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422074906.18720.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.99 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:49:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.99] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: rave funk!!! cat peee!!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:49:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okie dokie. .. the smell at 2nd and jackson is sooooo bad, it smelled like cat pee on thurs afternoon when we got there with props. I left there at 8pm an hour after getting there and for pretty much the whole ride home Dj MAC had to have the windows down cause we stank of 2nd and jackson. . . there is no escaping that gawd awful smell. . .unless of course tom and stacey would get on the ball and install those damn fans they keep talking about. . . they were talking about getting a quote from someone this week soooooo. . . maybe. . . just maybe we'll get those fans sooner than expected, and what with summer and all, well geeez. . .I sure hope so. peace and love Raoul >From: MoonChyld1@aol.com >Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com >To: stargurl@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: rave funk!!! >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:10:28 EDT > >In a message dated 4/21/99 12:58:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >stargurl@hotmail.com writes: > ><< Anyone ever notice that weird distinct smell you get > after partying there? I call it rave funk. >> > > >yup yup, that's what i've always refered to as not only the smell, but the >dirt, and smoke and sweat and grime that you find on your clothes, hair, >skin, under your nails and god knows where else after leaving any party!! not >just at 2nd and jax either, it seems to be everywhere... so my personal rule, >don't wear anything too nice that can't be easily cleaned, and always bring >anti-bacterial hand gel stuff... oh and i bring some astringent and stuff in >the car so i can clean my face off right as i leave... =) eeewww... i >remember the rave funk from my first party, was amoung the worst, but what do >u expect from the "dirty place" (aka 85th and baldwin) lol!!! > >love and hugs and kisses, >tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 07:54:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20879 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 07:54:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 20871 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 07:54:55 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 07:54:55 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14386) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXOGa26761 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:54:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <811d0cf8.24502f99@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:54:01 EDT Subject: Fwd: location scouts....Berekely/Gilman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_811d0cf8.24502f99_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_811d0cf8.24502f99_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_811d0cf8.24502f99_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Anachra@aol.com From: Anachra@aol.com Full-name: Anachra Message-ID: <811d0cf8.24502f4b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:52:43 EDT Subject: Re: location scouts....Berekely/Gilman To: breakbeat@thegrid.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com hmmm....the only positive information i can add to this bit of the search is that the gilman area is positively off limits....that new brewery that went in there has run everything out....they seem to be fairly police backed and after the huge city council fight for the Gilman St club, I highly doubt that anything would go over too well....damned brewery where people show up in limos...wacky stuff i tells ya --spacey --part1_811d0cf8.24502f99_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 08:01:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22676 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 08:01:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 22656 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 08:01:13 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 08:01:13 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14386) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3RSCa13357; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:00:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <3877656b.24503120@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:00:32 EDT Subject: Re: location scouts.... To: AdidasXE7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk erf...i used to live in danville...that building has been as far as i know...off limits because of it's proximity to the youth center there and to SR and MV high schools....(lame, they're all closed at the hours in question i know) but realize that danville is a relatively tiny town with moocho money that just aint gonna stand for 1500 ravers...still great ideas and great brainstorming all around! this is how we come up with good things eventually! (: In a message dated 4-21-99 5:47:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, AdidasXE7@aol.com writes: > Theres a nice sized warehouse near my house (next to my school) in danville > that was a big pool hall for a while and a carpet cleaner place after that. > im preety sure its empty now, and theres a nice sized parking lot, real > bathrooms > > matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 08:14:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27256 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 08:14:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 27232 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 08:13:56 -0000 Received: from law-f75.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 08:13:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 28420 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 08:13:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422081320.28419.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.99 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:13:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.99] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: promoters make hella loot!!!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:13:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah they make big bank offa parties I mean @ $20/head times 2000 people? hmmmm well now that would be $40k huh? but how much did they put into the party: a rundown (all gross est. no fact) space: $5000 permits: $4500-6500 sound: 2 rooms $1200 dj's: 6 per room/12 total (avg. incl 2 headliners @ $400ea.) $4000-$5000 laser/lights: $1000 props: $1500 hotel/tix for headliner ($300ea.): $600 well well well well looks like: costs of nearly $20k have any of you tried to throw a big party? I know that those of you who have thrown any type of party wish that you could take all the money and run. I mean after spending at least 3 months planning it you feel like and actually do work at a full time job: call it promoting if you will. . . it's rough and you love the scene soo you go to the party and you throw a party and you stay up late and and and I could go on, but hey. . .you definitely get a few grey hairs. . . especially if you don't know how to delegate. . .but. . . I think that they money a promoter earns is his reward for hard work. you would want to be rewarded too, no?? I think soo. Now, has anyone noticed what goes on after the promoter throws a party like this?? the next one is usually better (hint hint)production wise, soooo take and a moment to think of what goes on behind the scene. . .you try to do it. it's hard as hell. . I tried it. it wasn't nearly as fun or easy as I thought it would be, I actually gave up, anyone remember those itty bitty earthtribe fliers that came out at skills 2, that was the begining and the end of my first party. but hey I gave it a shot . . . I encourage you to try it as well. but for now I will stick to promoting for Harmony and Harmonics and doing club events with rave dj's, and free outdoor parties on the 2nd sunday of every month called Discovery (club) and DAYSHINE (outdoor) they are sooo much less complicated. . . thanks for reading. . . .come to my outdoor event on sunday the 25th of this month. DAYSHINE held in beautiful downtown Santa Rosa 12-5 pm 707.571.8747 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 08:23:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2852 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 08:23:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 2836 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 08:23:05 -0000 Received: from law-f157.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 08:23:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 31830 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 08:22:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422082214.31829.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.113.171.99 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:22:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.113.171.99] From: "trancebaby_ NBC" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: DAYSHINE!!!!!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:22:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I got the hook up for your cracked out smile on a sunny sunday afternoon. . (FREE) DAYSHINE courtesy of yours truly --trancebaby-- dj's Ryan Wilber (NBC, HARMONICS, SPARKLE DISCOVERY) Luke (DISCOVERY, NBC) URN (HARMONY, NBC, HARMONICS, SPARKLE, DISCOVERY) Sean Norton (NBC, MAGIC, MISSION TO MONDAY) This event will take place in Downtown SANTA ROSA at the corner of 3rd st and santa rosa ave. in old courthouse square from 12pm-5pm (better extended hours) we will be groovin' to house music all day long. soo come and bring your beautiful smile and colorful vibe to this sunny sunday event. pass it on, it's: FREE, outdoors, and good music all in one!!!!!!!!! SEE YOU THERE . CALL 707.571.8747 FOR MORE INFO pEACE AND lOVE raoul from me to you, cause I care . . . peace From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 08:27:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4385 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 08:27:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 4376 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 08:27:07 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 08:27:07 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca44-95.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.223]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12723; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371EDD46.C2CA97D1@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:26:47 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ravergrl27@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? References: <5ea412e4.244f613e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Top 3 reasons to boycott 2n& Jackson: 1) There is no outdoor area 2) It's too small and they always over pack it 3) It's very dirty 4) It's unsafe 5) It's used more times a month than any other location. 6) The people who have the lease on the location force production crews to let them sell their own water there. =Paul*E*Wog P.S. That's six reasons! Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > > Here is a question that maybe some of you can answer: > > Name the TOP 3 reasons why you wouldnt want to go to 2nd and Jackson? Please > do not mention any production crews. This is not about about them in any way! > Im making sure that if there are more then 20 complaints about safety it will > help me out in a few gray areas! Thanks people!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 08:29:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5219 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 08:29:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 5204 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 08:29:22 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 08:29:22 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca44-95.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.223]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17407; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371EDDDB.F845E098@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:29:15 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Vandenbroek CC: sfravers@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? References: <19990421184321.8408.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Eric... this location is terrible. I am sure if promoters weren't lazzy they would find a new location. There are lots of abandoned warehouses. =Paul*E*Wog Eric Vandenbroek wrote: > > In regards to Andy W.'s commentary on this subject. I completly > agree. I don't understand why you (the person who asked this > question) wants negative feed back. Do you know how difficult it is > to find good locations for the scene right now, and yet you are > collecting evidence to I'm assuming close one down. Right, why don't > you just go and make the whole s.f. scene dissapear while you are at > it. I really hope the s.f. scene doesn't turn in to L.A. but at the > rate it is going, and the greediness that is coming up. It's bound > to fall. Anyway, before I start throwing too much of my opinions of > the condition of the scene I will conclude this e-mail. > > Eric > > >From: AndyW > >Reply-To: AndyW > >To: Ravergrl27@aol.com > >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re:Name the top 3 reasons why? > >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:20:40 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >How about some reasons to use 2nd and Jackson (I personally don't > love the > >space all that much, but for someone who tends to be > *positive*positive* > >all the time, you're making quite an effort to make a negative mark > here > >Jeannie). > > > >1) It's smaller than HomeBase. Not every promoter can or wants > to > >throw an event at that scale. > >2) It's permitable. > >3) It's better than Newberry's. > >4) Solid two room layout > >5) The rafters are a dream to work with props, lasers, visuals > and > >lights-wise. > >6) The people who manage the space are scene-savvy. > >7) Central location. > >8) It would be easy to evacuate in case of emergency. > >9) Ample parking within a couple blocks. > >10) Nearby restaurants for crew members who forget to eat until > 9pm > >when the party starts... so they can just sneak out and get a quick > bite > >to eat. > >11) Convenient to get to (45 min from San Jo!). > >12) The sun comes through the skylights in the morning (call me > >sentimental). > >13) Recently earthquake retrofitted with wall and roof supports > (most > >warehouses aren't). > >14) Wayne actually went to a party there a few months ago and > enjoyed > >it! > >15) The end of the ramp between the two rooms is the only time > I've > >pulled a successful ollie on a skateboard in years. > >16) It's the only space I've ever played a three hour set at. :P > > > >Say what you want, say what you will. Can you come up with ONE REAL > >difference between 2nd and Jackson and say... er... Homebase? > > > >Oh wait, your boyfriend uses Homebase for his parties! > > > >>>> Could we PLEASE quit the kneebiting towards other promoters? <<< > > > >In the end, it's another big building in a questionable neighborhood > that > >tends to get hot when you fill it chock full of dancing people, the > same > >type of building this scene has flourished in party after party for > years. > > > >Because of insurance, permits, fire marshall walkthroughs, etc, it > is by > >definition safer by legal terms than any of the UG locations. I > prefer it > >to any other permittable location except one in Oakland (the space > used > >for that Beautiful People where we had Brian and Brad play). > > > >What is your point here? > > > >I'm sorry you felt faint as a result of the heat and humidity at > Flower > >Fest. To be honest, I have felt similarly at every major location > sooner > >or later... the answer is in fans and ventilation, but it's tough > when > >sound leakage is a concern (and did you know that fans actually > INCREASE > >ambient air temperature, so if you're not bringing in cool air, they > >actually raise the temperature?). > > > >I hate to say this, but if you don't like it, don't go! > > > >Unity anyone? > >AndyW > > > >(the views expressed by andyw are his and his alone, and do not > reflect > >the views of harmony, cloud factory, viberation, mutor sound system, > nomad > >interactive, the City of Oakland, Francis the Talking Mule, Vestax > mixers, > >JBL speakers, Ortofon cartridges, MIT, Studio 54, Saturn5, Juan > Atkins the > >Bringer of All Things Splendid Sounding or anybody else not named > andyw). > > > >p.s. If you are gathering complaints to make a formal complaint > regarding > >the safety of that location, I'd see that as on par with pushing for > a > >practical monopoly for Home Base and the parties thrown there, which > I > >consider pretty much identical in every aspect spacewise (including > >stifling heat in the back rooms at all but the emptiest of parties, > which > >appears to be your motivating concern). There aren't exactly a lot of > >choices on locations right now, especially for sub-4000 person > events. > >This would be a completely different discussion for me if there were > any > >options as far as permitable spaces besides Homebase, 85th and > Baldwin, > >JJNewberry's and 2nd&Jackson. The last thing this scene needs right > now is > >the pot calling the kettle black. > > > > > > > >On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 Ravergrl27@aol.com wrote: > > > >-&e->Here is a question that maybe some of you can answer: > >-&e-> > >-&e->Name the TOP 3 reasons why you wouldnt want to go to 2nd and > Jackson? > >-&e->Please do not mention any production crews. This is not about > about > >-&e->them in any way! Im making sure that if there are more then 20 > >-&e->complaints about safety it will help me out in a few gray areas! > >-&e->Thanks people!!! > >-&e-> > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 08:38:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7871 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 08:38:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 7862 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 08:38:51 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 08:38:51 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca44-95.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.223]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23009; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371EE011.2D46BC68@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:38:41 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Harmony was a blast for me! References: <924635531.21145.711@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It was a teletubby backpack. Not a sesame street one. Sheesh! =Paul*E*Wog leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > So Friday night i went dancing a bit at Consious Sessions, and woke up with > my back out on Saturday.... could hardly walk... so i was a slacker at > helping set up for Harmony... sitting was all I could do.... at about 7:30 > or so, i said. hey, i think i'll go check how the line is doing outside... > > oh my god... five hours later.... > > wow! what a trip... to every single wonderful smiling person in the line > .... thanks for making it actually *FUN* for me to write numbers on your > hands! and for those of you who didn't introduce yourselves, yep, i was the > one in the flower crown working that line... next time, say hi, ok?? > > since we were a bit past schedule for opening the doors, the line was long > and happy! boomboxes.... candy kids.... the wonderful guy in the clown > shoes handing out candy who after several hours patiently waiting didn't get > in, and was a smiling and gracious guy anyway... the saddest moment was > when we hit capacity and some of the ones we *really* thought would make it > under our limit had to get turned away... that was heartbreaking. > > i have to say, sometimes i am really proud to be part of a scene of such > wonderful people... > > and, to those who cut in line (therefore resulting in some of the patient > people not getting in) .... and those who scammed the door in other ways... > karma shall repay you for this one... and we'll all try to make sure you > don't get away with it again! > > but... sherry... you posted that we were "in your faces at the door?" .... i > didn't even SEE you Saturday! (wish i had! was ryan with you?) ... were you > in the line??? are you just talking about security? i don't get it!! > please explain what you mean! > > anyway, by the time i went back ins ide it was 12:30, the place was full-on > going off! (again, sherry, not sure what you mean by "dark vibe") ... > unfortunately, my energy was gone gone gone, and i spent very little time > actually dancing ... but the place was beautiful, people seemed to be having > a good time... > > i met lots of sfravers i hadn't met before -- even got sarah from tahoe to > post!!! -- and was able to spend time talking to some of my favorite folks > and sit while terry worked his magic visuals in the chill space -- > > i do apologize for not being able to introduce paul hayden to the curious > ones on here who wonder what this kid who badmouths candy ravers is like... > you probably noticed him in his furry pants and sesame street backpack (was > that the one paul?) .... and maybe even saw him passed out on the floor wth > his pants undone (as someone said... i missed it)... next time, i'll do a > better job. it's worth it, i promise. > > but many thanks to you all, you looked beautiful, you had fun, it made it > all worthwhile! > > much love, leslie > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 09:11:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17220 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 09:11:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 17212 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 09:11:55 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 09:11:55 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca44-95.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.223]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15136 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371EE7CD.836D63A0@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:11:41 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: *Enlightment* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The Butterfly- I am without form Without Limit Beyond Space Beyond Time I am in everything Everything is me I am the bliss of the universe Everything am I The Journey- Who is adventurous to go on this journey? Do you realize that when you go on this journey in order to get to the destination YOU can never get to the destination? In the process YOU must die... must die! Pretty fierce journey and pretty fierce requirement, but they want volunteers. Now, they'll make the journey as comfortable as possible, but you have to realize that you're going to get out to another belt of radiation which is going to crisp you completely. You will die, but there will be an essence left that will get through. Who would like to volunteer? Ready? Why would anyone want to go on a trip like this? Adventure? Well, one thin about an adventure is the adventurer wants to stay around and adventure and if he's going to get crisped in the process there's going to be no adventurer left to have had the adventure. There's something that pulls a person toward this journey way away back deep inside is a memory there is something inside each of us that comes from behind that veil behind the place of our own birth it's as if you have tasted of something somewhere in your past that's been so high, so much light, and so much energy, that nothing you can experience through any of your senses or your thoughts can be enough! Somewhere inside everybody knows that there is a place which is totally fulfilling not a desperate flick of fulfillment it is a state of fulfillment. You may experience despair that you'll ever know that. Good! Through the despair comes surrender and through that surrender you'll get closer to it. What keeps you from that place and gives you that total feeling & experience & knowing of fulfillment is all of this POSTURING, all of your THOUGHTS, all your way of ORGANIZING your world, all of your PLANS, and all of your GAMES. Your exploring. Some of us don't go on this journey. No one stood up and volunteered. (It didn't work that way at all. it's not like anyone had a choice of volunteering or not volunteering.) That isn't the way it works. It's as if you're propelled into it. Like the moth into the flame. Yet, no one is pushing you. Nobody's standing around saying, "Get in! Take every third man! He goes!" It does not work that way either. It's a little more like the image of a caterpillar - enclosing itself in a cocoon in order to go through the metamorphosis to emerge as a butterfly. The caterpillar doesn't say, "Well now. I'm going to climb into this cocoon and come out a butterfly." It's an inevitable process. It's inevitable. It's just happening. It's GOT to happen that way. We're talking about a metamorphosis. We're talking about going from caterpillar to butterfly. We're talking about how to become a butterfly. The caterpillar isn't walking around saying, "Man! I'll soon be a butterfly!" As long as he's busy being a caterpillar he can't be a butterfly. It's only when caterpillarness is done that ones starts to be a butterfly and that again is part of this paradox. You cannot rip away caterpillarness. The whole trip occurs in an unfolding process under which you have no control! Remember: Be Here NOW! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 09:14:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18052 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 09:14:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 18037 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 09:14:05 -0000 Received: from mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (HELO mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 09:14:05 -0000 Received: from postoffice-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net (postoffice-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.109]) by mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id CAA01229; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by postoffice-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/po.gso.24Feb98) id CAA09172; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:14:04 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRdppycNkNvdUMRe/i0wZM9Jhd5lwIUAmalS+ckvf+qXve4gOoZZPkYi5c= From: RaveKitty@webtv.net (PsychoAlpha DiscoBeta) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:14:03 -0700 (PDT) To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence Message-ID: <1193-371EE85B-4897@postoffice-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: leslie.ayres@excite.com's message of Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:29:58 PDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have to say reading your response to this saddened me. It's this sort of shifting of responsibility from parenting and upbringing to music labels, and fashion that is most disturbing. I have not been able to watch much of the coverage of this news without getting very emotional. I think that it is time that we stop saying 'oh it was kmfdm, oh it was marilyn manson'. The people in both of those bands are intelligent emotional beings who were probably just as effected as the rest of us if not even a little more so from people trying to blame them in such a preventable incident. I think this goes back to when parent advisory stickers were being put on music, so 'busy parents' had an easier way of parenting. Sticker's can't be a substitute for sitting down with your children and explaining and discussing things. I can most definatly relate to the outcast, jock hating, mis-dressed high school days. What i can't relate to is sick cold blooded killing. I can offer no answers, but i think we had better start working on some solutions especially as many of us will be or already are giving birth to our own children. My heart and thoughts are with those who had to stand next to their friends covered in their blood, and hearing gunshots in the rest of their dreams..... .....I'll swallow your soul..... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 10:13:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16295 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 10:13:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 16285 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 10:13:34 -0000 Received: from mail2.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 10:13:34 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca44-95.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.223]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA25001; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371DA472.C5B0BCDB@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:12:02 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chrisP CC: Rafie , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: 5-HTP Questions References: <19990420201528.22328.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Err ah... Yeah!! That was cool. Not!!!! Duh!!! No! =Paul*E*Wog chrisP wrote: > > --- Rafie wrote: > > David hasn't made me any food yet. Im kinda sketched cause he told me its a > > family tradition to spit in food you make for friends n family before you > > serve it to them. > [Snip] > > Why did we all have to read this? > > Everyone, this is a perfect example of a message that did not need to go to the > list. Please respect ALL the list members and keep personal messages between > the persons who give a sh*t. Things posted to the list should be relevant to > the list, it's really not a hard concept to grasp. > > What's the big deal you ask? Well, while some of us (like me) will simply > filter your messages into the trash, others may not have that capability, and > eventually leave. Every time someone leaves due to the kind of cyber-tagging > above, the whole list community is dimminished. Think of all the cool posts by > people like Leslie or AndyW that you don't get to read when you drive people > away with you inane chatter. > > Get it? > > chrisp From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 10:20:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18994 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 10:20:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 18979 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 10:20:38 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?iz5iaZkBjQYkKcX7bUhb+8QJl0zrjSec?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 10:20:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id DAA07411; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:20:35 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: PsychoAlpha DiscoBeta cc: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: my take on outcastage and shooting other kids In-Reply-To: <1193-371EE85B-4897@postoffice-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't think any of you knew me in high school... I was student council this team captain that, drinking what, smoking who, blah blah blah. I was a full on Big Man On Campus type. And I was a really crossover white guy, meaning I was often the only white guy in whatever group I was hanging out with. But the thing is...I wouldn't have gotten shot the other day, because I was friends with the geeks who didn't like to talk out loud normally, and the nicotine addict goth crew, and everyone and everything. In some ways, it was to make sure I got elected to whatever I was running before, but mostly it was because as someone raised by intelligent parents in the Bay Area, I realize the truth: I am as much of a spaz as anyone, if not more. I am less good looking than loads of people, I am not a genius like some people are, I can't draw a life like face, much less anything in 3D. There are more humbling things about me.... what can I say...I really have tried so far in my life to never put anyone who didn't attack me down. It's just so sad to me that...violence becomes an expression of an artform like in this high school. I had ways to get my fucked up feelings out. Rapping to the shower curtain, battling suckers in the p[arking lot at HS, doing kegstands, going to the library and reading everything I could see. For some kids who have alienated themselves to the point of being beyond society. I gave yall my number, give us a call? max/cc@thermal posse TKAING YOUR ORDER =)) max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 12:31:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24292 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 12:31:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 24282 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 12:31:02 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 12:31:02 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.149] (kenya-149.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.149]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26883; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:30:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:52:54 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Thu) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... If your parents never had children, chances are you won't either. ---Dick Cavett =] pfft! ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 14:42:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8526 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 14:42:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 8341 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 14:42:39 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 14:42:39 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (8017) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGJUa15097; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:41:39 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <47c76c5b.24508f21@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:41:37 EDT Subject: Re: rave funk!!! To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/21/99 10:54:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: << But you know it's dirty when you have a friggin SOCK LINE! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva >> lol, yup yup... i had a sock line from f-8!!! it was hella nasty!! but yes the dirty place has to be the worst as far as accumulating rave funk!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 15:21:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29447 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 15:21:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 29436 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 15:21:26 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 15:21:26 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-251.dsp.com [204.118.76.251]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA15665 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:21:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199904221521.IAA15665@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:16:51 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR some kid's dream job? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I recall seeing some Pokemon traffic here, so I pulled this from today's Craig's List: >> Subject: (etcetera job) Data Compiler for Comics Publisher We are looking for one temporary, part-time data compiler who will read & compile information & questions from Pokemon reader response cards. This person will work 16 flexible hours a week for approximately 6 months at the pay rate of $7.00/hr. This is a great opportunity for students. We are Viz Communications, Inc, the publisher of Pokemon comics and the leading U.S. publisher of Japanese anime & manga in English. Please send inquiries/resumes: Via email to: viz@chunk.com Via Fax to: 415-546-7086 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 15:49:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17932 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 15:49:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 17924 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 15:49:36 -0000 Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 15:49:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422155351.27483.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:53:51 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:53:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: rave funk!!! cat peee!!! To: trancebaby_ NBC , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think I smell like crack when I leave that place... I dunno why i just do. --- trancebaby_ NBC wrote: > > okie dokie. .. the smell at 2nd and jackson is > sooooo bad, it > smelled like cat pee on thurs afternoon when we got > there with > props. I left there at 8pm an hour after getting > there and for > pretty much the whole ride home Dj MAC had to have > the windows down > cause we stank of 2nd and jackson. . . there is no > escaping that gawd > awful smell. . .unless of course tom and stacey > would get on the ball > and install those damn fans they keep talking about. > . . they were > talking about getting a quote from someone this week > soooooo. . . > maybe. . . just maybe we'll get those fans sooner > than expected, and > what with summer and all, well geeez. . .I sure hope > so. peace and > love Raoul > > >From: MoonChyld1@aol.com > >Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com > >To: stargurl@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: rave funk!!! > >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:10:28 EDT > > > >In a message dated 4/21/99 12:58:31 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > >stargurl@hotmail.com writes: > > > ><< Anyone ever notice that weird distinct smell > you get > > after partying there? I call it rave funk. >> > > > > > >yup yup, that's what i've always refered to as not > only the smell, > but the > >dirt, and smoke and sweat and grime that you find > on your clothes, > hair, > >skin, under your nails and god knows where else > after leaving any > party!! not > >just at 2nd and jax either, it seems to be > everywhere... so my > personal rule, > >don't wear anything too nice that can't be easily > cleaned, and > always bring > >anti-bacterial hand gel stuff... oh and i bring > some astringent and > stuff in > >the car so i can clean my face off right as i > leave... =) eeewww... > i > >remember the rave funk from my first party, was > amoung the worst, > but what do > >u expect from the "dirty place" (aka 85th and > baldwin) lol!!! > > > >love and hugs and kisses, > >tina > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 16:10:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2839 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 16:10:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 2828 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 16:10:36 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 16:10:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA18743; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: Jess ica cc: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, Kalika1196@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: a good party place.... In-Reply-To: <19990421220951.16123.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Total renovation for that space is just over 1 million according to the owner (that would be to get it up to par as a theatre, not sure what just an earthquake code retrofit would be). I believe the owner is planning on selling it. Too bad, the buyer will probably wreck it, and it's an awesome location, and it's become a part of the youth community in the north bay. I talked with him for hours one day about how Harry Houdini and all these other crazy people had performed there years ago, it's a really magical space@! AndyW On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Jess ica wrote: -&e->I heard it wasnt earthquake safe, and they cant anyone to pay to -&e->restore it, im not sure if this is true, can someone confirm? If so, I -&e->wonder how much $$ it would take to restore it. -&e-> -&e->-Jessica -&e->--- Jeremy Bispo wrote: -&e->> -&e->> Again another Space that is no longer availble. And -&e->> when availble only Greg Sandler and my friend Ross -&e->> could rent it out for events. All events there have -&e->> been connected to them. -&e->> -&e->> sorry to dissapoint. -&e->> -&e->> =)jeremy -&e->> -&e->> -&e->> === -&e->> Jeremy B. Bispo -&e->> Member Support Specialist -&e->> Cybergold, Inc. -&e->> 2921 Adeline -&e->> Berkeley CA 94703 -&e->> 510.845.5000 ext. 126 -&e->> -&e->> -&e->> -&e->> -&e->> ---Kalika1196@aol.com wrote: -&e->> > -&e->> > ok, ive only been to one party here, and they've -&e->> only had 2, but it seems to -&e->> > be a really good location for parties, smaller -&e->> parties. its the phoenix in -&e->> > petaluma. its pretty clean, and is has real -&e->> bathrooms. it didnt get too hot -&e->> > when i was there, and there is an accessable water -&e->> fountain. imo i think -&e->> > promoters should have more parties there! the -&e->> parties that were held there we -&e->> > sparkle, and beautiful people in january. -&e->> > -&e->> > trisha -&e->> > -&e->> -&e->> -&e->> -&e-> -&e-> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 16:29:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16943 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 16:29:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 16890 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 16:29:51 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 16:29:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA19617; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari Reply-To: AndyW To: Queen of Scots cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: rave funk!!! In-Reply-To: <00f501be8c75$0ee67880$a01a5f80@alcatraz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Queen of Scots wrote: -&e-> -&e->and we all know that the build-up of gook on the bottom of fatpants is -&e->called 'raver sludge'! :) -&e->for its prevention, i have no advice!! Uh... pants that don't drag on the ground? I know, silly. AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 16:36:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19718 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 16:36:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 19710 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 16:36:07 -0000 Received: from law-f53.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.116) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 16:36:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 51939 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 16:38:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422163840.51938.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:38:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: leslie.ayres@excite.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:38:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IMHO, music is a reflection of the artist and not a method to incite violence. There's a lot of pissed off people in the world due to many reasons. "Angry" punk rock isn't angry for no reason. There's feeling behind these words and expressions and it's not fair to invalidate those by referring to them as "stupid s#!t". there's people out there who dont get enough food to eat, who dont have a place to sleep at night and get f@#ked with on a daily basis. That's something to be pissed off about. This isn't "stupid s#!t" to them. Music isn't why these kids went on a rampage. That's like saying Eddie Vedder is why kids do drugs. just an opinion John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 16:40:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24240 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 16:40:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 24210 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 16:39:57 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 16:39:57 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA23552; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA04780; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:31:56 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just have to give a public comment on jeannie's request for any complaints about 2nd and jackson. i know we don't have many warehouses to go around, but why should we subject ourselves to such terrible conditions in the warehouse we do have when we can do something about it. we have someone who is willing to get something changed, we should give her our support. some poeple replied back to the list with their problems with 2nd and jackson, but jeannie asked for PRIVATE replies, so that should not be an issue. those poeple just made a mistake. i know some poeple are going to be complaining about overe crowding of the warehouse, but we should all keep in mind as well that that is an issue for the promoters, not the space owner. i've been to a fair amount of parties there (at least 4 0r 5) that have not been too crowded, with plenty of room to dance and walk around. 2nd and jackson IS an unsafe environment for poeple, anyone who denies that that either never been there, or is superman and doesn't feel it's life sucking effects the day after. it's sad that we don't have many spaces available to throw parties anymore, but shouldn't we try to make the ones we have great places to party? something can be done about the lack of ventilation, lack of acces to water for emergencies, lack of available exits in case of emergencies, etc. those are safety hazards that the OWNER needs to address. that place has been around for a long time, and if she hasn't seen the light yet, we should definitly make her aware now. now negativity in this post (or in this thread). just some poeple trying to make this world a little better. who kows, maybe this will end a lot of negativity we see on this list - all the complaining about how parties sucked and such. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 16:48:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2569 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 16:48:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 2518 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 16:48:20 -0000 Received: from stinger-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO stinger.excite.com) (198.3.99.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 16:48:20 -0000 Received: from scorch.excite.com ([199.172.152.240]) by stinger.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990422164748.IIWO15757.stinger@scorch.excite.com>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:47:48 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: "PsychoAlpha DiscoBeta" , leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence Message-Id: <924799669.13726.761@excite.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:47:49 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:14:03 -0700 (PDT), PsychoAlpha DiscoBeta wrote: > I have to say reading your response to this saddened me. It's this sort > of shifting of responsibility from parenting and upbringing to music > labels, and fashion that is most disturbing. As a parent, I do not think this is shifting responsibility. Quite the opposite... i think that recognizing that garbage in = garbage out is to recognize the nature of ourselves as human beings. Recognizing that angry hateful and violent music programs and stimulates our angry hateful and violent sides is something we MUST DO. Recognizing that violent video games where the "other worldly" players stalk halls and gun down "enemies" triggers a dark side of the human personality is something we MUST DO. Recognizing that inside each and every one of us is a light and loving nature -- as well as the potential for a dark and evil side -- and that we have a CHOICE about which side we develop, is something we MUST DO. Regognizing that we are ALL brothers and sisters, parents and children, we are all the same family... and that we must watch out for our family members who are headed for trouble, is something we MUST DO. And to set standards of acceptable behavior, and see ourselves as creatures with infinite potential to create a positive and loving world is something we MUST do.... starting with our own selves. I spend a lot of time thinking about how i can make a small difference in the world around me, be a positive influence on those people in our world who are susceptible to the evil and darkness that is spreading. This is one of the reasons I stay on this list, because i feel a responsibility to be a positive role model, even when it seems futile and exhausting to remain here. that's a choice i've made. I hope each and every one thinks about what you can do also, whether in your home life, your neighborhood, your school. And to me, one thing that i can do is to remind people that as the saying goes "you are what you eat"... we become what we take in, whether it's music, or violence, or whatever... we all have a chance to make the world just one bit more positive... and hopefully when we do it with love and respect for the other members of our family, we can each make one small drop of positive difference... and we can change the world. It's not about *telling* kids not to wear certain clothes or listen to certain music... sheez, anyone who knows me knows that my greatest mission in life is to encourage people to be the most individual and distinctive person they can... if that means proudly wearing the weirdest-assed clothes in the world, that is great. But to me, it's about educating kids (and therefore the adults they are to become) that they have choices to make, and that there is a positive power in becoming an individual, and in allowing and respecting that individuality in others. We MUST recognize that the violence that we are enacting in our movies, our music, our video game entertainment, will destroy us, because it destroys the very best of our human nature. That is what spiritual evolution is about, and the first step is to become conscious of it, to recognize it, to pay attention. love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 16:52:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4249 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 16:51:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 4230 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 16:51:55 -0000 Received: from law-f224.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.162) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 16:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 8607 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 16:51:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422165128.8606.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:51:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: dadope@juno.com, HppyXTC@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Review of 420 - Thank you!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:51:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Mad props for the 420 party! Thank you to everyone who made it possible. The whole atmosphere was really cool. I look forward to seeing you all again soon I hope you're all doing well -John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 17:03:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13263 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 17:03:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 13255 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 17:03:42 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 17:03:42 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-38.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.38]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA26594; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990422153657.006d4380@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:36:57 -0500 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com From: Nuku Subject: Re: negative words and violence Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:14:03 -0700 (PDT), PsychoAlpha DiscoBeta wrote: > >> I have to say reading your response to this saddened me. It's this sort >> of shifting of responsibility from parenting and upbringing to music >> labels, and fashion that is most disturbing. > > >Recognizing that violent video games where the "other worldly" players stalk >halls and gun down "enemies" triggers a dark side of the human personality >is something we MUST DO. >Recognizing that inside each and every one of us is a light and loving >nature -- as well as the potential for a dark and evil side -- and that we >have a CHOICE about which side we develop, is something we MUST DO. It is believed that everyone has a not just a potential darkside..the only problem that comes is when ppl do not acknowledge their darkside and accept it, to control it. If someone ignores it then they become in danger of leading an empty shell of a life. Just a thought. Dark does not always equate evil. I kinda of fear ppl who think like this because they are prolly missing something in their life, and usually they are. Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 17:18:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22854 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 17:18:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22799 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 17:18:23 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?pibmhvGXr6Q2FAZes2ixZHxHSU90xSe9?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 17:18:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id KAA00159; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:18:18 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: PsychoAlpha DiscoBeta cc: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: my take on outcastage and shooting other kids In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whoah pardon me, last night I had serious poltergeist stuff going on in this computer, this message wasn't supopsed to get sent out like it did, but I will briefly finish up what I was saying... On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Max McCauley wrote: > > I had ways to get my fucked up feelings out. Rapping to the shower > curtain, battling suckers in the p[arking lot at HS, doing kegstands, > going to the library and reading everything I could see. For some kids > who have alienated themselves to the point of being beyond society, they forget that even when it seems like no one wants to listen to their problems, when it seems like no one can identify with what they're going through, it's easy to forget that the rocks on the ground and the clouds in the sky often make better conversation than people do. RIP the victims. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 17:44:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8945 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 17:44:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 8925 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 17:44:31 -0000 Received: from f96.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.215) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 17:44:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 37245 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 17:47:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422174748.37243.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.169 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:47:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.169] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: johnr@hrg.com, KidOnix@aol.com Cc: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: location scouts.... Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:47:32 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2b60d5a0_350a4bcf$4011271a" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2b60d5a0_350a4bcf$4011271a Content-type: text/plain <"Weren't y'all at the Creation party at the Scandia mini-golf course? It's the one right near the Russian River... That's the party that we all showed up at in '92. Reunion was only a hop skip and an after party jump away. Besides, it was neat to see origional band members of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers dancing around in the river water. There have also been parties at Ma-lib-oo that arcade, race-car, mini-golf course...".> <"Then someone decided to have a party at a li'l airport, and called the party Escape... that was very nice of 'em. Frisky-Loop was also at an aircraft hanger, no? Anyway, out of the four parties mentioned above (not counting the after party) at two types of venues, only two were successful. I wonder wich ones were break-ins, or wich ones had permits and lawyers and (bribe money, jk) why I don't hear from that part of the list on the list alot more... Maybe I really am mental "> going... going... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn >From: "John Rodriguez" >Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com >To: KidOnix@aol.com >CC: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, SFraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: location scouts.... >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:16:34 -0700 > >I have no idea who threw it. There was one at the Chuck E Cheese in Marin also >around the same time. 10.95 (weird price) got you admission, all you could eat >pizza, and all the tokens you wanted. And it went till 6am, although the music >wasnt all that great. > >john r > >KidOnix@aol.com wrote: > >> haha.. are you serious?.. who threw the party?.. I wonder if we could get >> away with throwing an underground there?.. >> >> johnr@hrg.com wrote: >> >> <> (the ball room was the shit!) Unfortunatly from what I understand SJ wont >> give >> out permits for all night parties anymore. >> >> john r >> >> KidOnix@aol.com wrote: >> >> > hey you know what would be a tight place to have a party at... that 2 story >> > chucky cheese! I think its in San Jose or sumthing.. but its clean.. and big >> > could probly fit 3 rooms.. and like theres stairs leading to the top floor >> > where they have video games and stuff.. and the bottom floor has one of >> those >> > ball rooms.. I doubt there is any chance in ever getting a permit for that.. >> > but its nice to dream... >> > >> > *Kid Onix* >> >> >> > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_2b60d5a0_350a4bcf$4011271a Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_6547054_350a4bcf$4011271a" ------=_NextPart_001_6547054_350a4bcf$4011271a Content-type: text/html
           
<"Weren't y'all at the Creation party at the Scandia mini-golf course?
It's the one right near the Russian River... That's the party that we
all showed up at in '92. Reunion was only a hop skip and an after
party jump away. Besides, it was neat to see origional band members
of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers dancing around in the river water.
There have also been parties at Ma-lib-oo that arcade, race-car,
mini-golf course...".>
<"Then someone decided to have a party at a li'l airport, and called
the party Escape... that was very nice of 'em. Frisky-Loop was also
at an aircraft hanger, no?
Anyway, out of the four parties mentioned above
(not counting the after party)
at two types of venues, only two were successful. I wonder wich ones
were break-ins, or wich ones had permits and lawyers and (bribe money,
jk) why I don't hear from that part of the list on the list alot
more... Maybe I really am mental ">

going... going...
I'm gone
Jaw
- Ta from Pyximhn

>From: "John Rodriguez" <johnr@hrg.com>
>Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com
>To: KidOnix@aol.com
>CC: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org,
SFraves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: location scouts....
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:16:34 -0700
>
>I have no idea who threw it. There was one at the Chuck E Cheese in
Marin also
>around the same time. 10.95 (weird price) got you admission, all you
could eat
>pizza, and all the tokens you wanted. And it went till 6am, although
the music
>wasnt all that great.
>
>john r
>
>KidOnix@aol.com wrote:
>
>> haha.. are you serious?.. who threw the party?.. I wonder if we
could get
>> away with throwing an underground there?..
>>
>> johnr@hrg.com wrote:
>>
>> <<HA HA!!! Its been done! It was around 93 or 94 and it was
pretty cool :)
>> (the ball room was the shit!) Unfortunatly from what I understand
SJ wont
>> give
>> out permits for all night parties anymore.
>>
>> john r
>>
>> KidOnix@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > hey you know what would be a tight place to have a party at...
that 2 story
>> > chucky cheese! I think its in San Jose or sumthing.. but its
clean.. and big
>> > could probly fit 3 rooms.. and like theres stairs leading to the
top floor
>> > where they have video games and stuff.. and the bottom floor has
one of
>> those
>> > ball rooms.. I doubt there is any chance in ever getting a permit
for that..
>> > but its nice to dream...
>> >
>> > *Kid Onix*
>>
>> >>
>
>
>
>
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22 Apr 1999 17:46:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 10806 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 17:46:34 -0000 Received: from law-f216.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.126) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 17:46:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 14342 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 17:45:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422174542.14341.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:45:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: rave funk! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:45:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At freedom everyone i went with got sooo dirty. My car was caked. I had dust coming out of the vents for a week. all my clothes took 2 times through the wash to get clean with the exception of my black JNCO's which for some reason seem to repel dust. Freedom was excellent though and well worth it to me. Hope everyone can make it to the one this year. I'm renting a car this time though :) I hope you're doing well John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 17:47:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12969 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 17:47:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 12717 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 17:47:42 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 17:47:42 -0000 Received: from LordNyxx@aol.com (2712) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBWDa00317; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:47:07 -0400 (EDT) From: LordNyxx@aol.com Message-ID: <63255c8a.2450ba99@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:47:05 EDT Subject: Re: location scouts(Danville/Grange/Veterans Hall) To: Anachra@aol.com, AdidasXE7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: LordNyxx@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ::sitting at one of the servers at Monte Vista High School in Danville:: hehehehee, yeah this town is a but uptight, yeah there is an unfortunate amount of money floating around as well....but hey, attempting to find out if maybe we could squeeze like a 300-500 person party in one of the two aforementioned spaces, (Grange Hall or Veterans Hall) would be nothing less than harmless, I mean, if no one ever dared to ask any questions, would we ever find out anything new? gLoVeS From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 17:56:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24262 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 17:56:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24177 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 17:56:05 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 17:56:05 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id KAA16484 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.33) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma924803753.016480; Thu, 22 Apr 99 10:55:53 -0700 Received: from geocities.com (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29434 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371F62B4.D1333995@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:56:04 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: urban_assault@geocities.com Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence References: <924733798.21917.771@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree and don't agree. The media can't find a reason for the kids doing what they did so "lets blame music and movies"??? That's questionable... I listen to rap that has negative words. I watch movies that have negativity. But you don't see me going out killing everything in sight. I'm still sentimental when I see such violence as this past shooting and all the other horrible actions that have taken place in the last two years. Society has already been programmed and it wasn't from music or movies or tv. All this crap that we're seeing has been happening years before movies etc. Now I'm sure negativity in movies and music doesn't help out any, but lets not jump on the bandwagon and say "they did what they did from the music they listen to or movies they watch". It doesn't help, but its not the reason. For many years society has tried to blame artist (tv,movies,art,music,etc.) when all the artist is doing is representing what he/she sees in society already. That's the artist way of getting it out of their system. They didn't create the mess in society, and its not fair to say they did or are the reason there are 15+ students dead. Society did this over time. Its the world around us that makes the movie or the music. Not the other way around! I don't have to listen to negative music or watch negative movies to see the ugly truth that lies all around me. I can go crazy right now just driving in traffic. So I can't agree that music or movies are the cause of mass murders, etc.. On the contrary they don't help any either. Just my comments, thanks for reading. ;) Siphon leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > saturday, when we were setting up for harmony, someone put a rap tap into a > boombox and turned it up.... and it really annoyed me because i found the > words negative and disturbing... a few of us were talking about it, and some > people said "i just tune it out" .... > > but i don't think we *can* tune things out, and i think that listening to > negeative rap or angry punk rock or stupid aggressive shit in general, with > words of hate and violence, with anger and agression in the lyrics... i > think this stuff goes right into your brain, whether you notice or not. > > and i think we need to be careful with how we are "programming" our > brains... which is one reason i like the positive subliminal words that are > often used in techno, trance and house music. we need all the positivity we > can get. > > this all came back to me last night watching the news, where the media is > grasping for ways to categorize these fucked up high school children who > worked together to create a scene of total destruction against those they > apparently felt were against them. (sorry, i can't muster up to much > sympathy for them personally, no matter how sad their lives, i don't see > them as the victims) > > and i wonder what kind of music they were listening to, what kind of beats > and words they gravitated toward that they felt expressed the world they > live in. (the media said they liked "german techno punk" or something) > > this is just sharing a thought that i've had many times, that we must > recognize the power of words, not just in media and movies that we program > ourselves with (and don't tell me that's not "programming" becuase it is... > when you become insensitive to horrendous violence because you've seen it on > tv or moves over and over again, you have been programmed to accept it)... > > i think we all need to think about how the music we choose to listen to not > only expresses what we have inside of us, but it also creates who we are > inside and how we see the world. > > these are just my thoughts.... and i try to be aware of my music choices in > this context. > > another thing i wonder is if we'll see is that use of amphetamines played a > part in this tragedy... the paranoia that results from crystal or crank use > falls right in line with this scenario. > > it's a sad sad time for parents and children, for all the citizens of our > society... and hopefully a chance to see how we can make some changes that > shift the world we are creating around us. > > love, leslie > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ -- _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 18:05:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29580 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 18:05:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 29552 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 18:05:45 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 18:05:45 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA20300; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:04:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca45-61.ix.netcom.com(209.110.235.61) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020247; Thu Apr 22 13:04:18 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990422105403.00941ed0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:05:13 -0700 To: "trancebaby_ NBC" From: Greg Sandler Subject: Re: promoters make hella loot!!!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990422081320.28419.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here goes Raoul sticking his foot in his mouth again ; ) Man I wish it was this cheap to produce a party. This is nowhere near the actual costs that a promoter has to pay. I can tell you honestly, it is almost if not double what you think. I will do a quick rundown... At 01:13 AM 4/22/99 -0700, you wrote: > > yeah they make big bank offa parties I mean @ $20/head times 2000 >people? hmmmm well now that would be $40k huh? but how much did they >put into the party: a rundown (all gross est. no fact) > space: $5000 sometimes, but more often than not it is more... > permits: $4500-6500 this is average > sound: 2 rooms $1200 you're kidding right?!?! What kind of systems can you get for this? not good ones... Try $3000 > dj's: 6 per room/12 total (avg. incl 2 headliners @ >$400ea.) $4000-$5000 this is correct > laser/lights: $1000 No way!!! We last weekend we spent something like $3000 on lights and lasers > props: $1500 talk to the San Jose Harmony Crew to find out that it is more like $2500 > hotel/tix for headliner ($300ea.): $600 right. But what about the little things like: Power: $1000 Man Lifts: $600 Insurance: $400 Flyers: $2000 Mailers: $600 Posters: $300 Tickets: $400 Voicemails: $100 plus a whole lot more... Raoul the list goes on and on, someday you'll figure that out, but for now, go on thinking that all these promoters are rolling in $$$ cause they are not... I know I am not, I mean I still eat top ramen with the best of them! ; ) (i have also perfected the art of making cheese and tortillas) Peace and love, Greg= ) > > > well well well well looks like: costs of nearly $20k have any >of you tried to throw a big party? I know that those of you who have >thrown any type of party wish that you could take all the money and >run. I mean after spending at least 3 months planning it you feel >like and actually do work at a full time job: call it promoting if >you will. . . it's rough and you love the scene soo you go to the >party and you throw a party and you stay up late and and and I could >go on, but hey. . .you definitely get a few grey hairs. . . >especially if you don't know how to delegate. . .but. . . I think >that they money a promoter earns is his reward for hard work. you >would want to be rewarded too, no?? I think soo. Now, has anyone >noticed what goes on after the promoter throws a party like this?? >the next one is usually better (hint hint)production wise, soooo >take and a moment to think of what goes on behind the scene. . .you >try to do it. it's hard as hell. . I tried it. it wasn't nearly as >fun or easy as I thought it would be, I actually gave up, anyone >remember those itty bitty earthtribe fliers that came out at skills >2, that was the begining and the end of my first party. but hey I >gave it a shot . . . I encourage you to try it as well. > > but for now I will stick to promoting for Harmony and Harmonics >and doing club events with rave dj's, and free outdoor parties on the >2nd sunday of every month called Discovery (club) and DAYSHINE >(outdoor) they are sooo much less complicated. . . thanks for >reading. . . .come to my outdoor event on sunday the 25th of this >month. DAYSHINE held in beautiful downtown Santa Rosa 12-5 pm >707.571.8747 > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 18:17:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10787 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 18:17:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 10731 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 18:17:04 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 18:17:04 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA22188 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:16:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca45-61.ix.netcom.com(209.110.235.61) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma022147; Thu Apr 22 13:16:16 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990422110532.00b84c90@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:17:12 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Harmony Crew at Digital Dreams!!! (bsp) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I just wanted to let everyone know that the Harmony Crew djs will be at Fuz-e's Digital Dreams event in force this Friday. We are going to rock Sacramento with that Harmony style vibe, so we hope that you can join us and help create another awesome party up in Sac town!!! Here is the info... Friday, April 23rd FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS presents ***DIGITAL DREAMS*** in the Fuz-e room CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE ,LA TAJ (SF) SIMON APEX (SSU) DJ ROCKIT (SAC) STILLWIND (SF) DRE (SAC) B-SIDE (SAC) STOMPA (SAC) RIF (SAC) in the Hamony room ***HARMONY SHOWCASE*** GREG SANDLER ERIK BROWN GIANNI LI ETHAN LOGIK J-BOT URN MAC. $20.00 @ the door on the night of the event PRE-SALE TICKETS (LIMITED) $15.00 AVAILABLE @ THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS: DIMPLE RECORDS, SAC IMAGINE MUSIC, SAC SUBSONIC UNDERGROUND, SAC SOLID GROOVES , SAN JOSE HOUSE WARES, SF F-8, SF DADDY'S RECORDS, BERKLEY HARMONICS, SANTA ROSA ROCK ON, FAIRFIELD MOTION MUSIC, MODESTO call for more info!!! 916.484.5700 800.204.3986 Hope to see you on the dance floor!!! Peace and love, Greg= ) btw, this is the first time ever that Erik Brown and myself are going to be playing on 4 decks!!! We are so excited and ready to blow it up! We can't wait! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 18:18:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11226 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 18:18:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 11068 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 18:18:03 -0000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 18:18:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422181840.2102.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:18:40 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:18:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Epiphany Pix To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can someone please email me the link to these pictures? Thanks, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 18:22:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14211 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 18:22:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 14134 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 18:21:54 -0000 Received: from f66.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.206) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 18:21:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 30172 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 18:22:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422182203.30171.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.206.202.148 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:21:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.206.202.148] From: "Macadio G." To: ascend@ix.netcom.com, trancebaby@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: promoters make hella loot!!!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:21:57 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whoa!! Greg sounds like a regular budget gourmet chef.. I think he should close down the record store and open up a resturant. :-) See ya, Macadio (Macaroni-0) >From: Greg Sandler >To: "trancebaby_ NBC" >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: promoters make hella loot!!!! >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:05:13 -0700 > >Here goes Raoul sticking his foot in his mouth again ; ) > >Man I wish it was this cheap to produce a party. This is nowhere near the >actual costs that a promoter has to pay. I can tell you honestly, it is >almost if not double what you think. I will do a quick rundown... > > >At 01:13 AM 4/22/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >> yeah they make big bank offa parties I mean @ $20/head times 2000 >>people? hmmmm well now that would be $40k huh? but how much did they >>put into the party: a rundown (all gross est. no fact) >> space: $5000 >sometimes, but more often than not it is more... > >> permits: $4500-6500 >this is average > >> sound: 2 rooms $1200 >you're kidding right?!?! What kind of systems can you get for this? not >good ones... Try $3000 > >> dj's: 6 per room/12 total (avg. incl 2 headliners @ >>$400ea.) $4000-$5000 >this is correct > >> laser/lights: $1000 >No way!!! We last weekend we spent something like $3000 on lights and lasers > >> props: $1500 >talk to the San Jose Harmony Crew to find out that it is more like $2500 > >> hotel/tix for headliner ($300ea.): $600 >right. > >But what about the little things like: > >Power: $1000 >Man Lifts: $600 >Insurance: $400 >Flyers: $2000 >Mailers: $600 >Posters: $300 >Tickets: $400 >Voicemails: $100 >plus a whole lot more... > >Raoul the list goes on and on, someday you'll figure that out, but for now, >go on thinking that all these promoters are rolling in $$$ cause they are >not... I know I am not, I mean I still eat top ramen with the best of them! >; ) (i have also perfected the art of making cheese and tortillas) > >Peace and love, > >Greg= ) > >> >> >> well well well well looks like: costs of nearly $20k have any >>of you tried to throw a big party? I know that those of you who have >>thrown any type of party wish that you could take all the money and >>run. I mean after spending at least 3 months planning it you feel >>like and actually do work at a full time job: call it promoting if >>you will. . . it's rough and you love the scene soo you go to the >>party and you throw a party and you stay up late and and and I could >>go on, but hey. . .you definitely get a few grey hairs. . . >>especially if you don't know how to delegate. . .but. . . I think >>that they money a promoter earns is his reward for hard work. you >>would want to be rewarded too, no?? I think soo. Now, has anyone >>noticed what goes on after the promoter throws a party like this?? >>the next one is usually better (hint hint)production wise, soooo >>take and a moment to think of what goes on behind the scene. . .you >>try to do it. it's hard as hell. . I tried it. it wasn't nearly as >>fun or easy as I thought it would be, I actually gave up, anyone >>remember those itty bitty earthtribe fliers that came out at skills >>2, that was the begining and the end of my first party. but hey I >>gave it a shot . . . I encourage you to try it as well. >> >> but for now I will stick to promoting for Harmony and Harmonics >>and doing club events with rave dj's, and free outdoor parties on the >>2nd sunday of every month called Discovery (club) and DAYSHINE >>(outdoor) they are sooo much less complicated. . . thanks for >>reading. . . .come to my outdoor event on sunday the 25th of this >>month. DAYSHINE held in beautiful downtown Santa Rosa 12-5 pm >>707.571.8747 >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 18:44:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2479 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 18:44:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 2457 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 18:44:47 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 18:44:47 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-h2 (mmf31.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.101]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18467; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904221844.LAA18467@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: awallace@u.washington.edu From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: rave funk!!! CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:47:16 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk One thing that you can do to prevent that funk from seeping too far into your pants is to line the interior of the bottoms with duct tape. Everyone does it! It also gives you more time before the bottoms get all raggedy and you look like one of those street "ravers" from Haight. Rafie On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:03:19 -0700, awallace@u.washington.edu wrote... > >and we all know that the build-up of gook on the bottom of fatpants is >called 'raver sludge'! :) >for its prevention, i have no advice!! > >alexis > >Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm >-------------------------------------------- >Whatever happened to the MC >Times done changed for the MC >Every woman and man wanna MC >But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. >-=- De La Sol > > >-----Original Message----- >From: MoonChyld1@aol.com >To: stargurl@hotmail.com ; sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 7:19 PM >Subject: rave funk!!! > > >>In a message dated 4/21/99 12:58:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >>stargurl@hotmail.com writes: >> >><< Anyone ever notice that weird distinct smell you get >> after partying there? I call it rave funk. >> >> >> >>yup yup, that's what i've always refered to as not only the smell, but >the >>dirt, and smoke and sweat and grime that you find on your clothes, hair, >>skin, under your nails and god knows where else after leaving any party!! >not >>just at 2nd and jax either, it seems to be everywhere... so my personal >rule, >>don't wear anything too nice that can't be easily cleaned, and always >bring >>anti-bacterial hand gel stuff... oh and i bring some astringent and stuff >in >>the car so i can clean my face off right as i leave... =) eeewww... i >>remember the rave funk from my first party, was amoung the worst, but what >do >>u expect from the "dirty place" (aka 85th and baldwin) lol!!! >> >>love and hugs and kisses, >>tina > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 18:46:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4161 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 18:46:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 4042 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 18:46:05 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 18:46:05 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-80.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.80]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05522 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00bb01be8cf0$bc4cc4e0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: References: <19990421221054.96976.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Spundae and 4:20 ? Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:48:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone heard about Spundae opening its own record shop called 4:20 ? I heard its somewhere on Haight street. To top it off, they said that Jerry Bonham is running the place. Is there any truth in this, or was someone just pulling muh leg ? (They also said John Digweed was there yesterday spinning!!!) Love & Music, -Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 18:58:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12264 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 18:58:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 12238 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 18:58:07 -0000 Received: from mb3.mailbank.com (209.133.104.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 18:58:07 -0000 Received: from manuel-laptop (mg131-131.ricochet.net [204.179.131.131]) by mb3.mailbank.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA06946 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:57:48 -0700 From: "Manuel G. Quiogue" To: Subject: SRR: UCSB Incident Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:57:09 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be8cf1$ec9ef540$690000c0@manuel-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm sorry if this a little off subject and a bit of a downer, and I hope I don't offend anyone by *assuming* some of us have been known to take E from time to time, but there's been an e-mail going around concerning the death of a UCSB student, supposedly due to E. Apparently, a 21 year old senior named Elizabeth Fang died from taking E earlier this month. The e-mail originated from a friend of hers urging people to no longer take E. Well, I actually got this post from one of my hook-ups who said that she didn't feel comfortable hooking me up anymore. So, in my disappointment and anger, I started doing research to try and prove that this was nothing more than an urban legend. I did searches on the web and couldn't find anything on this Elizabeth Fang. I decided to call the news reception desk at the campus newspaper, who confirmed her death. I suspect that there are some mitigating factors, some contributing condition to what happened, i.e. mixed with a prescription drug, or other drug, bad batch, or a medical ailment, not just a regular drop. But the autopsy results have not yet been released, and will not be until next week. Please don't start calling the campus paper, as they will probably start refusing to answer questions next week when they have more info if they get inundated with calls this week. So I'm wondering if anyone here is from or knows someone in the Santa Barbara area, who might be able to shed some light on this subject, who might be able to access more information. I strongly believe that authorities will probably try to pin this one unfairly on E, and maybe partying in general, which will affect as all. We need to be prepared with the truth. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 18:58:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12722 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 18:58:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 12493 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 18:58:18 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 18:58:18 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (230) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOOUa05754; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:57:13 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <3277f78f.2450cb04@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:57:08 EDT Subject: Re: location scouts(Danville/Grange/Veterans Hall) To: LordNyxx@aol.com, Anachra@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the ninja has spoken... soon as im able to talk again (im fighting some disease) ill start calling around matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 19:06:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20384 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 19:06:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 20316 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 19:06:39 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 19:06:39 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-h2 (mmf31.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.101]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01603; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904221906.MAA01603@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: kandykid4@hotmail.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: [NWR] Alcohol @ Raves CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:09:06 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hm, I agree that it can be fun, especially at day and outdoor parties, but most people probably would get drunk then not care about throwing their shit away. The presence of alcohol at an all ages party is not good, either. So it would be best if you could drink responsibly, then get a ride to a party, if that's what you want. Or you could drink a bottle of vodka to your head like Jupiter Boy did at Happy Kids 2yr. "BYOB raves" in Hawaii!? That's crazy. Rafie On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:49:28 PDT, kandykid4@hotmail.com wrote... >i used to hate having alcohol at raves. i originally started raving >in hawaii, where it's always BYOB. i never liked the idea of it. i >just thought that it didn't mix with the other drugs that were being >used. it brought a whole different vibe to the scene. > >but then, i got worn out with doing drugs all the time and decided to >take a break from all of it. after a while, i would just be drinking >and i'd go to parties and drink. i think that it's ok, just as long >as it's kept at certain level and doesn't get too out of hand. > >love lia > > >>From: "Queen of Scots" >>To: >>Subject: Re: [NWR] Alcohol @ Raves >>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:15:16 -0700 >> >> >>damn those californians, and, oh! they were from san fran, good god >no! :> >>i do see litter as a huge problem, and i am not sure how much alcohol >>contributes... but if it is some, there needs to be control. >>who is to enact this, i am not sure, but i imagine that the general >>atmosphere is what causes the careless attitude. this, or lack of >garbage >>cans, or 'it doesn't matter' is no exuse for pollution at all, and >i'm sure >>that this is a major part of planning outdoorsy events. >> >>alexis >> >>Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm >>-------------------------------------------- >>Whatever happened to the MC >>Times done changed for the MC >>Every woman and man wanna MC >>But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. >>-=- De La Sol >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Trance-O-Maniac >>To: nw-raves@hyperreal.org >>Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 9:56 PM >>Subject: RE: [NWR] Alcohol @ Raves >> >> >>>Regarding alcohol at raves - >>> >>>I mentioned this to Kim (last year - in September) and we thought >that it >>>was a good idea to post it on the list- but at that time there was >hardly >>>any feedback. >>> >>>Shall I mention it again? I think so. (Don't mind if I start >rambling... >>>:)) >>> >>>The last outdoor party I went to Sept. 19-20 up at Mt. Baker. The >party >>was >>>THE phattest. San Fran DJs. I guess Acquarius Swirl (Tony) put it >on (New >>>Moon Festival was the party). >>>There were performances by: Dave (Vajra) {very HOT}, Anna from >Blueroom, >>>Neal from CCC, and the electronic violinist (a duet of some sort). >>> >>>But, only going one day- the majority of the people were from San >Fran. It >>>was like it was way too out of this world. The party was great (an >>>understatement). But, a couple of things really bothered me. >>> >>>Whenever the NW raves throw a party in the woods- we're so >concerned with >>>the environment that we pick up after ourselves. They DID have >beer cans - >>>like everywhere. I talked to one of the DJs... and they said - >it's no big >>>deal (having a little alcohol out in the woods isn't going to hurt >anyone). >>>I just told them that it wasn't our scene up here. But, the place >was >>>really decorated at night time (with lots of art, etc.)- but the >next >>>morning around the tents and wherever- it was a mess. >>> >>>So, appreciate it that you live in the NW. You're with a bunch of >other >>>people that like to at least pitch in and clean up also. About the >>alcohol- >>>I didn't know it was there. Some don't. But, the other big thing >is that >>I >>>wanted to tell who is ever DJing up here- that they might have >themselves >>>some competition if CA DJs start coming to WA to throw outdoor >parties. I >>>wouldn't want to see our scene get a bad rep. I hope someone out >there at >>>least agrees with something I said (if not all- but you don't have >to). >>> But - just FYI.... Had to mention it to you lovely peeps again. >>> >>>Peace >>> >>>T-O-M >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: nw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:nw-raves- >owner@hyperreal.org] On >>>Behalf Of jovian f. >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 5:28 PM >>>To: nw-raves@hyperreal.org >>>Subject: Re: [NWR] -alcohol @ raves- >>> >>> >>>>The reason for the negativity around booze and raves, besides the >>>>effects on ones senses and the lousy vibe it brings to a party..it >is >>> >>>i dunno, i think a lot of meth at a party brings out a much worse >vibe than >>>*moderate* quantities of alcohol.. >>>one of the major problems, apart from the people who inevitably >won't know >>>their limits (true of any drug), is that when there're a fair >number of >>>people drinking at a party, everybody gets tired really early and >is passed >>>out by 3am.. ;) >>> >>>- jove >>> >>> >> >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 19:07:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21211 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 19:07:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 21038 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 19:07:42 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 19:07:42 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca13-149.ix.netcom.com [209.109.238.149]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27582; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371F72E3.DE1EFB24@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:05:07 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wil Hanno CC: dadope@juno.com, HppyXTC@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Review of 420 - Thank you!! References: <19990422165128.8606.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That 420 party at maritime was the most bizarre thing i have ever seen. Everyone almost was wearing dreads and everyone was wearing dark colors and almost NO candy jewelry or anything the reflected black light. And the music was soooooo slow it was putting me to sleep. I was about to pass out anyway at that time from previous chocolate brownie 420 day celebrations, but still... Everyone seemed very nice though. Still! The whole thing was sooooo bizarre. =Paul*E*Wog Wil Hanno wrote: > > Mad props for the 420 party! > Thank you to everyone who made it possible. > The whole atmosphere was really cool. > I look forward to seeing you all again soon > > I hope you're all doing well > -John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 19:11:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25645 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 19:11:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 25599 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 19:11:09 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 19:11:09 -0000 Received: from sei.com (ntws18.sei.com [198.202.174.85]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA22832; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371F7501.6D0DA207@sei.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:14:09 -0700 From: Martin Randall Organization: SEI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: urban_assault@geocities.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence References: <924733798.21917.771@excite.com> <371F62B4.D1333995@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That was a very thoughtful response, and I kind of agree, but I have to agree more with Leslie - as another concerned parent. I do think the negativity and violence portrayed in "the media" does desensitize people. I don't buy the line that "it just reflects our own lives". Maybe the gangsta-rappers live in a world of drive-by shootings and disrespect for human life and dignity, but most of us don't. Most of our lives are pretty humdrum, go to work, go to school, hang out with our friends, etc. We're more-or-less law-abiding (well, at least we're not killing people!) We don't live in this dark underworld of violence. It may be intriguing for people to listen to this music, or watch these movies, to get a taste of the dark side. But I think it does drag on the soul and builds a kind of resistance to looking at the positive things in life. I am just appalled at the stuff I hear in some rap these days, and I reckon I am pretty open-minded. Obviously not everyone who listens to rap or watches a violent movie goes out and shoots people. But I feel that those who are already susceptible will be influenced and desensitized by the violence that is seen and accepted in the media. And if they are already marginal, they may be drawn past the point at which a catastrophic outcome like we saw in Colorado may result. Just saying "it doesn't make *me* shoot people" doesn't wash - not everyone who smokes dies of lung cancer, but it's a contributing factor. And I don't think the media is solely to blame - probably much more of a factor is the dissolution of the family and parents abdicating responsibility for giving their kids guidance and love. I think this is the real problem, but even then there are kids who seem to have loving parents and they go out and do stuff like this. It's a tough problem with no simple solutions. I don't really have an answer - the media is controlled by money, so they will churn out whatever sells movie tickets or cd's, and people for whatever reason have an appetite for this stuff. One scary thing though - my son told me that they were discussing the Colorado shootings in his class yesterday, and the teacher asked how many of the kids in the class could go out and get a gun (illegally). About half the kids in the class knew where they could get a gun! I'm not talking about stealing daddy's gun from home, I'm talking about from some shady character willing to sell guns to schoolkids! Hell, if schoolkids know who to go to to buy a gun, how come the police aren't busting their asses to kingdom come?!?! Are they too busy monitoring raves lists or something? I just hope this is not true! Oh well, back to my humdrum life...... - Martin Siphon wrote: > I agree and don't agree. > > The media can't find a reason for the kids doing what they did so "lets > blame music and movies"??? That's questionable... > > I listen to rap that has negative words. I watch movies that have > negativity. But you don't see me going out killing everything in > sight. I'm still sentimental when I see such violence as this past > shooting and all the other horrible actions that have taken place in the > last two years. Society has already been programmed and it wasn't from > music or movies or tv. All this crap that we're seeing has been > happening years before movies etc. > > Now I'm sure negativity in movies and music doesn't help out any, but > lets not jump on the bandwagon and say "they did what they did from the > music they listen to or movies they watch". It doesn't help, but its > not the reason. > > For many years society has tried to blame artist > (tv,movies,art,music,etc.) when all the artist is doing is representing > what he/she sees in society already. That's the artist way of getting > it out of their system. They didn't create the mess in society, and its > not fair to say they did or are the reason there are 15+ students dead. > Society did this over time. Its the world around us that makes the > movie or the music. Not the other way around! > > I don't have to listen to negative music or watch negative movies to see > the ugly truth that lies all around me. I can go crazy right now just > driving in traffic. So I can't agree that music or movies are the cause > of mass murders, etc.. On the contrary they don't help any either. > > Just my comments, thanks for reading. ;) > Siphon > > leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > > > saturday, when we were setting up for harmony, someone put a rap tap into a > > boombox and turned it up.... and it really annoyed me because i found the > > words negative and disturbing... a few of us were talking about it, and some > > people said "i just tune it out" .... > > > > but i don't think we *can* tune things out, and i think that listening to > > negeative rap or angry punk rock or stupid aggressive shit in general, with > > words of hate and violence, with anger and agression in the lyrics... i > > think this stuff goes right into your brain, whether you notice or not. > > > > and i think we need to be careful with how we are "programming" our > > brains... which is one reason i like the positive subliminal words that are > > often used in techno, trance and house music. we need all the positivity we > > can get. > > > > this all came back to me last night watching the news, where the media is > > grasping for ways to categorize these fucked up high school children who > > worked together to create a scene of total destruction against those they > > apparently felt were against them. (sorry, i can't muster up to much > > sympathy for them personally, no matter how sad their lives, i don't see > > them as the victims) > > > > and i wonder what kind of music they were listening to, what kind of beats > > and words they gravitated toward that they felt expressed the world they > > live in. (the media said they liked "german techno punk" or something) > > > > this is just sharing a thought that i've had many times, that we must > > recognize the power of words, not just in media and movies that we program > > ourselves with (and don't tell me that's not "programming" becuase it is... > > when you become insensitive to horrendous violence because you've seen it on > > tv or moves over and over again, you have been programmed to accept it)... > > > > i think we all need to think about how the music we choose to listen to not > > only expresses what we have inside of us, but it also creates who we are > > inside and how we see the world. > > > > these are just my thoughts.... and i try to be aware of my music choices in > > this context. > > > > another thing i wonder is if we'll see is that use of amphetamines played a > > part in this tragedy... the paranoia that results from crystal or crank use > > falls right in line with this scenario. > > > > it's a sad sad time for parents and children, for all the citizens of our > > society... and hopefully a chance to see how we can make some changes that > > shift the world we are creating around us. > > > > love, leslie > > > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > > -- > _____________________ > S i p h o n > Urban Assault [99] > info: 408.882.5064 > http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 19:15:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29701 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 19:14:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 29649 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 19:14:54 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 19:14:54 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (230) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uIKMa20238; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:07:50 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:07:49 EDT Subject: cheese tortillas (was Re: promoters make hella loot!!!!) To: ascend@ix.netcom.com, trancebaby@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if you spread a lil butter (or something similar) on the tortilla before you put the cheese on, the cheese melts better and more evenly matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 19:27:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9361 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 19:27:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 9295 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 19:27:06 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 19:27:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422192617.24759.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:26:17 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:26:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: negative words and violence To: Martin Randall , urban_assault@geocities.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone feel that our education system may have something to do with these kids shooting their classmates? I am sure that they werent only harrassed by students, but administration as well. The way I see it is that these kids obviously are intelligent, planning this all out. Schools today teach to those who learn the way they are being taught, but there is several different ways people learn. The ones fortunate enough to learn the way they are being taught are viewed as the "good" kids, and the ones lost in the system because they simply arent being taught in the way they learn, or have learning disorders are viewed as the "bad" kids. That may be when they take their smarts and begin building bombs and booby traps, and planning a massacre. That may not make sense to anyone, because its straight from my thoughts, I just blurted it out, and its time for lunch... Love, Jessica I think there is like 8 or 9 different ways people learn, our education system uses prolly 2 or 3 of these. --- Martin Randall wrote: > That was a very thoughtful response, and I kind of > agree, but > I have to agree more with Leslie - as another > concerned parent. > I do think the negativity and violence portrayed in > "the media" > does desensitize people. I don't buy the line that > "it just reflects > our own lives". Maybe the gangsta-rappers live in a > world of > drive-by shootings and disrespect for human life and > dignity, > but most of us don't. Most of our lives are pretty > humdrum, go > to work, go to school, hang out with our friends, > etc. We're > more-or-less law-abiding (well, at least we're not > killing people!) > We don't live in this dark underworld of violence. > > It may be intriguing for people to listen to this > music, or watch > these movies, to get a taste of the dark side. But I > think it does > drag on the soul and builds a kind of resistance to > looking at > the positive things in life. I am just appalled at > the stuff I hear > in some rap these days, and I reckon I am pretty > open-minded. > > Obviously not everyone who listens to rap or watches > a violent > movie goes out and shoots people. But I feel that > those who are > already susceptible will be influenced and > desensitized by the > violence that is seen and accepted in the media. And > if they are > already marginal, they may be drawn past the point > at which a > catastrophic outcome like we saw in Colorado may > result. Just > saying "it doesn't make *me* shoot people" doesn't > wash - not > everyone who smokes dies of lung cancer, but it's a > contributing > factor. > > And I don't think the media is solely to blame - > probably much > more of a factor is the dissolution of the family > and parents > abdicating responsibility for giving their kids > guidance and love. > I think this is the real problem, but even then > there are kids > who seem to have loving parents and they go out and > do stuff > like this. It's a tough problem with no simple > solutions. > > I don't really have an answer - the media is > controlled by money, > so they will churn out whatever sells movie tickets > or cd's, and > people for whatever reason have an appetite for this > stuff. > > One scary thing though - my son told me that they > were discussing > the Colorado shootings in his class yesterday, and > the teacher > asked how many of the kids in the class could go out > and get a > gun (illegally). About half the kids in the class > knew where they > could get a gun! I'm not talking about stealing > daddy's gun from > home, I'm talking about from some shady character > willing to sell > guns to schoolkids! Hell, if schoolkids know who to > go to to buy > a gun, how come the police aren't busting their > asses to kingdom > come?!?! Are they too busy monitoring raves lists or > something? > I just hope this is not true! > > Oh well, back to my humdrum life...... > > - Martin > > > > Siphon wrote: > > > I agree and don't agree. > > > > The media can't find a reason for the kids doing > what they did so "lets > > blame music and movies"??? That's questionable... > > > > I listen to rap that has negative words. I watch > movies that have > > negativity. But you don't see me going out > killing everything in > > sight. I'm still sentimental when I see such > violence as this past > > shooting and all the other horrible actions that > have taken place in the > > last two years. Society has already been > programmed and it wasn't from > > music or movies or tv. All this crap that we're > seeing has been > > happening years before movies etc. > > > > Now I'm sure negativity in movies and music > doesn't help out any, but > > lets not jump on the bandwagon and say "they did > what they did from the > > music they listen to or movies they watch". It > doesn't help, but its > > not the reason. > > > > For many years society has tried to blame artist > > (tv,movies,art,music,etc.) when all the artist is > doing is representing > > what he/she sees in society already. That's the > artist way of getting > > it out of their system. They didn't create the > mess in society, and its > > not fair to say they did or are the reason there > are 15+ students dead. > > Society did this over time. Its the world around > us that makes the > > movie or the music. Not the other way around! > > > > I don't have to listen to negative music or watch > negative movies to see > > the ugly truth that lies all around me. I can go > crazy right now just > > driving in traffic. So I can't agree that music > or movies are the cause > > of mass murders, etc.. On the contrary they don't > help any either. > > > > Just my comments, thanks for reading. ;) > > Siphon > > > > leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > > > > > saturday, when we were setting up for harmony, > someone put a rap tap into a > > > boombox and turned it up.... and it really > annoyed me because i found the > > > words negative and disturbing... a few of us > were talking about it, and some > > > people said "i just tune it out" .... > > > > > > but i don't think we *can* tune things out, and > i think that listening to > > > negeative rap or angry punk rock or stupid > aggressive shit in general, with > > > words of hate and violence, with anger and > agression in the lyrics... i > > > think this stuff goes right into your brain, > whether you notice or not. > > > > > > and i think we need to be careful with how we > are "programming" our > > > brains... which is one reason i like the > positive subliminal words that are > > > often used in techno, trance and house music. > we need all the positivity we > > > can get. > > > > > > this all came back to me last night watching the > news, where the media is > > > grasping for ways to categorize these fucked up > high school children who > > > worked together to create a scene of total > destruction against those they > > > apparently felt were against them. (sorry, i > can't muster up to much > > > sympathy for them personally, no matter how sad > their lives, i don't see > > > them as the victims) > > > > > > and i wonder what kind of music they were > listening to, what kind of beats > > > and words they gravitated toward that they felt > expressed the world they > > > live in. (the media said they liked "german > techno punk" or something) > > > > > > this is just sharing a thought that i've had > many times, that we must > > > recognize the power of words, not just in media > and movies that we program > > > ourselves with (and don't tell me that's not > "programming" === message truncated === From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 19:42:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21023 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 19:42:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 21011 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 19:42:46 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 19:42:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422194727.17218.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:47:27 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:47:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Lost @Harmony To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, yes i left my favorite reversible thermal at 2nd and crackson, and i dont think i will get it back, but if someone found it, just give it a wash, and it will be the best thermal a person can have. THIS is why i love shopping at thrift stores, it just doesnt hurt as much when you lose something that costs $.50, rather than $20!!! -jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 19:59:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2022 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 19:59:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 1867 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 19:59:15 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 19:59:15 -0000 Received: from RLBGHARE@aol.com (14401) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSBSa10877; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:58:33 -0400 (EDT) From: RLBGHARE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:58:31 EDT Subject: Music and the brain To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, anna7@uclink4.berkeley.edu, mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_d6cd163d.2450d967_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: RLBGHARE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_d6cd163d.2450d967_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_d6cd163d.2450d967_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: JoshJB1@aol.com From: JoshJB1@aol.com Full-name: JoshJB1 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:54:58 EDT Subject: Fwd: music and the brain To: RLBGHARE@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_d6cd163d.2450d892_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: JoshJB1@aol.com --part2_d6cd163d.2450d892_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_d6cd163d.2450d892_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (rly-yb05.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.5]) by air-yb01.mx.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:08:46 -0400 Received: from ravelinks.com (ravelinks.com [216.2.102.194]) by rly-yb05.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id PAA03178; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by ravelinks.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id LAA25914 for ravelinks-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:42:09 GMT (envelope-from owner-ravelinks@ravelinks.com) X-Authentication-Warning: ravelinks.com: majordom set sender to owner-ravelinks@ravelinks.com using -f Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (web120.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.121]) by ravelinks.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA25900 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:41:53 GMT (envelope-from skoobrevar@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990422184334.19647.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [168.156.41.29] by web120.yahoomail.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:43:34 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:43:34 -0700 (PDT) From: RaverBooks Staff Subject: music and the brain To: ravelinks@ravelinks.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-ravelinks@ravelinks.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: skoobrevar@yahoo.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here's an article about how music affects the brain from http://www.pulpfiction.com/rave/news.. thought you guys might find it interesting. LOS ANGELES - The music that makes the foot tap, the fingers snap and the pulse quicken stirs the brain at its most fundamental levels, suggesting that scientists one day may be able to retune damaged minds by exploiting rhythm, harmony and melody, according to new research presented yesterday. Exploring the neurobiology of music, researchers discovered direct evidence that music stimulates specific regions of the brain responsible for memory, motor control, timing and language. For the first time, researchers also have located specific areas of mental activity linked to emotional responses to music. In the long run, music could become a way of retooling brains afflicted with a variety of emotional disorders or neurological diseases, the researchers said. "That's our goal," said neuroscientist Anne Blood, who conducted the study at McGill University in Montreal. "You can activate different parts of the brain, depending on what music you listen to. So music can stimulate parts of the brain that are underactive in these disorders. Over time, we could retrain the brain in these disorders." The findings, presented at a meeting of the Society for Neuroscience in Los Angeles, underscore how music - as an almost universal language of mood and emotion - orchestrates a wide variety of neural systems to cast its evocative spell. "Undeniably, there is a biology of music," said Harvard University Medical School neurobiologist Mark Jude Tramo. "There is no question that there is specialization within the human brain for the processing of music. Music is biologically part of human life, just as music is aesthetically part of human life." Brain and music: new research In a series of new studies made public yesterday, researchers found: -- The brain responds directly to harmony. Using a medical PET scanner to monitor changes in neural activity, neuroscientists at McGill discovered that different parts of the brain involved in emotion are activated depending on whether the music is pleasant or dissonant. "This suggests different emotions are represented in different parts of the brain," Blood said. -- The brain interprets written musical notes and scores in a special area on the brain's right side. That region corresponds to an area on the opposite side known to handle written words and letters. So, in studying the brains of expert musicians, researchers uncovered an anatomical link between music and language. "We are guessing (the area) is involved in the visual processing of the score itself," said Lawrence Parsons at the University of Texas at San Antonio. "On the left, the same area is involved in reading." -- The brain grows in response to musical training the way a muscle responds to exercise. In a study of classically trained musicians, researchers at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston discovered that male musicians have significantly larger brains than men who have not had extensive musical training. The area of the brain called the cerebellum, which contains 70 percent of the brain's neurons, was about 5 percent larger in expert male musicians. No such size increase was found in the brains of female musicians, but the researchers said they may not have studied enough women to be certain. "Musicians are not just born with these differences," said Dr. Gottfried Schlaug, who conducted the research. The cerebellum grows as a result of the constant practice needed to play an instrument, he said. Overall, music seems to involve the brain at almost every level. The researchers found evidence of music's remarkable power to affect neural activity no matter where they looked in the brain, from primitive regions found in all animals to more recently evolved regions thought to be distinctively human. "We find that harmony, melody and rhythm had distinct patterns of brain activity. They involved both the right and left sides of the brain," Parsons said. Melody affects both sides of the brain equally, though harmony and rhythm seem to activate the left side of the brain more strongly. Our first form of communication? The neural mechanisms of music may have originally developed as a way of communicating emotion as a precursor to speech, the researchers suggested, offering insights into how the mind integrates sensory information with emotion and meaning. Already, researchers are looking for ways to harness the power of music to change the brain. Preliminary research in laboratory animals and humans suggests that music may play some role in enhancing intelligence. Indeed, so seductive is that possibility that politicians in Florida, Georgia and other states are lobbying for schoolchildren to be exposed to Mozart sonatas, even though such preliminary research has yet to be replicated or confirmed. Yesterday, scientists said the new research could help the clinical practice of neurology, including cognitive rehabilitation. As a therapeutic tool, for example, some doctors today already use music to help rehabilitate stroke patients. Surprisingly, some stroke patients who have lost their ability to speak retain their ability to sing, and that opens an avenue for retraining the brain's speech centers. kim === Raverbooks 1205 E. Pike St Seattle, WA 98122 http://www.pulpfiction.com/rave 1-800-21-TAPES --part2_d6cd163d.2450d892_boundary-- --part1_d6cd163d.2450d967_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:01:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4253 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:01:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 4170 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:01:15 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:01:15 -0000 Received: from netwiz.net (BayArea56k441.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.41]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA13212; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904222001.NAA13212@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , groovi-randoms@netwiz.net Subject: FYI -- Colorado "Trenchcoat Mafia" Web Page Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:01:33 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.trenchcoat.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:12:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11590 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:12:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 11558 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:12:37 -0000 Received: from f29.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:12:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 18732 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 20:12:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422201235.18731.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.71.90 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:12:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.71.90] From: "Natasha 426" To: wil_hanno@hotmail.com, dadope@juno.com, HppyXTC@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Review of 420 - Thank you!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:12:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I second the props! Nice job, it was a great time with lots of cool peeps chillin' to some phat beats hugs, natasha ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Wil Hanno" To: dadope@juno.com, HppyXTC@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Review of 420 - Thank you!! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:51:28 PDT Mad props for the 420 party! Thank you to everyone who made it possible. The whole atmosphere was really cool. I look forward to seeing you all again soon I hope you're all doing well -John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:14:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14097 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:14:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13914 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:14:25 -0000 Received: from mail5.sirius.com (205.134.253.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:14:25 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok04--206.sirius.net [205.134.244.206]) by mail5.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA34665 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002d01be8cfb$12bcde00$cef486cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: References: Subject: Re: cheese tortillas (was Re: promoters make hella loot!!!!) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:02:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Cheese Tortilla's = Quesadilla's the easiest way to make Quesadilla's is not the best tasting. Most promoters(leading a busy lifestyle and all) grate thier cheese throw it on a tortilla and pop it in thier gold plated microwave ovens. really PLUR'ee UG ravers prefer the ancient authenic method of heating the tortilla over heated skillets or plain old flame from the fire. There is a therapuetic,mesmerizing aspect to watching the tortilla bubble(a hot flame wont bubble the tortilla). Before you throw the torilla on, throw some butter on (more than is healthy) the hot skillet(dont throw it on the fire, it doesnt add anything but the sound of the smoke detector) watch the butter sizzle till it almost turns brown. Throw the tortilla on. Move the tortilla around the hot skillet sopping up the near burnt butter. See how long you can keep your fingers on the tortilla on the hot skillet, (see, your mom was wrong! you didnt burn your fingers! maybe she was wrong about other things?). NOW pick a time that feels right to throw on the cheese. You want the right consistency of melted cheese. You want just the right amount of burnt tortilla bubbles. Not too much, not too many! But not 'not any', that is for those going to the bank promoters. No we have time, we take pride in our quesidilla. (Burnt bubbles is the secret-sort of a ""wood fired oven"" kinda secret). Next week Drug Dealers store bought salsa VS. UG house party promoters Fire roasted tomatoe/pepper slasa. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:14:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14339 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:14:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 14290 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:14:43 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd124.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:14:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 43015 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 20:14:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422201416.43014.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 159.37.7.44 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:14:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [159.37.7.44] From: "Lucy Fur" To: jvlavianos@cu-help.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Spundae and 4:20 ? Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:14:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it is, in fact, true. the spundae crew has opened a store called 420 on haight street...the location where faster bamboo used to be, haight and pierce. they had a party to kick it off on 4/20 at 4:20...as you may well have expected. > >Has anyone heard about Spundae opening its own record shop called 4:20 ? I >heard its somewhere on Haight street. To top it off, they said that Jerry >Bonham is running the place. Is there any truth in this, or was someone >just pulling muh leg ? >(They also said John Digweed was there yesterday spinning!!!) > >Love & Music, >-Jay > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:16:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16932 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:16:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 16906 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:16:49 -0000 Received: from f200.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.91) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:16:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 46371 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 20:15:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422201550.46370.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.197.213 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:15:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.197.213] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: looking for greg sandler's email addy Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:15:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello there! does anyone know greg sandler's address? duh... i erased some of his posts before i realized that i needed his address! thanx! -rani From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:19:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20107 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:19:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20082 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:19:35 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:19:35 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-226.dsp.com [204.118.76.226]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA22929; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:19:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199904222019.NAA22929@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:14:56 -0700 To: RLBGHARE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, anna7@uclink4.berkeley.edu, mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: Music and the brain In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That was great, and thanks for sharing. I have a question, tho: In the second part of the article, there's a judgement call that is really culturally specific. That makes me question the whole report. "neuroscientists at McGill discovered that different parts of the brain involved in emotion are activated depending on whether the music is pleasant or dissonant." At least there's no mention of what types of music are representative of pleasant or dissonant, but I can think of several traditional/classical types that fit either bill, depending on the listener. Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:21:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22434 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:21:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 22425 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:21:37 -0000 Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:21:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422203026.18351.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [192.203.46.14] by web303.yahoomail.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:30:26 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:30:26 -0700 (PDT) From: natasha bykhovsky Subject: Re: looking for greg sandler's email addy To: Rani Skye Lefevre , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk here you go, ascend@ix.netcom.com --- Rani Skye Lefevre wrote: > hello there! does anyone know greg sandler's > address? duh... i erased > some of his posts before i realized that i needed > his address! thanx! > -rani > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:24:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25656 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:24:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 25637 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:24:03 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:24:03 -0000 Received: from netwiz.net (BayArea56k441.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.41]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA16767; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904222022.NAA16767@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , groovi-randoms@netwiz.net Subject: Re: FYI -- Colorado "Trenchcoat Mafia" Web Page Reply-To: npm@netwiz.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:23:24 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > http://www.trenchcoat.org minutes after posting, this site disappeared or DNS-switched to wiretap.spies.com (??). Anyways, it was a pretty scary looking page, w/ requests to Bill Clinton to quit bombing yugoslavia and instead bomb "latinos and blacks and jocks" (talk about strange bedfellows). And a spoof of that credit card (?) ad with lists of prices of ammo, weapons, trenchcoats, and then "the look on your clasmates faces when you point your at them... priceless". And of course, the yearbook picture of their club... Nice foreshadowing, guys...BUNCH OF EVIL WANKERS! So what with the FBI wiretapping everybody's phones and computers, why weren't they bright enough to take a look at this one? Oh, because it's easier to brutishly infringe on civil liberties than use brains and cunning to do the job we're paying you for?? (If I could vote with my taxes i'd fire the lot of you!). Well, time to go fiddle with Java. Rome is burning. Isn't it strange that last time it was the germanic "goths", and this time, it's the amerikkkan southpark nazi goths. :-) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:29:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29924 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:29:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 29774 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:29:29 -0000 Received: from netcom6.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:29:29 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom6.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id NAA27069; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:29:25 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Trancoats... To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.charlies-angels.com/Fphoto8.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:43:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12073 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:43:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12065 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:43:33 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:43:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422204752.25720.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.15] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:47:52 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:47:52 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: Spundae and 4:20 ? To: Jay , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk true, true, true. loic --- Jay wrote: > Has anyone heard about Spundae opening its own > record shop called 4:20 ? I > heard its somewhere on Haight street. To top it > off, they said that Jerry > Bonham is running the place. Is there any truth in > this, or was someone > just pulling muh leg ? > (They also said John Digweed was there yesterday > spinning!!!) > > Love & Music, > -Jay > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 20:56:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22619 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 20:56:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22474 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 20:55:58 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 20:55:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422205949.12838.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.15] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:59:49 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:59:49 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: Harmony Crew at Digital Dreams!!! (bsp) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk who's going to this?? i don't feel like going to a "large" party on friday night, especially in sacramento, but the harmony crew makes it very appealing though. loic --- Greg Sandler wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I just wanted to let everyone know that the Harmony > Crew djs will be at > Fuz-e's Digital Dreams event in force this Friday. > We are going to rock > Sacramento with that Harmony style vibe, so we hope > that you can join us > and help create another awesome party up in Sac > town!!! Here is the info... > > > Friday, April 23rd > > FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS > > presents ***DIGITAL DREAMS*** > > in the Fuz-e room > CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE ,LA > TAJ (SF) > SIMON APEX (SSU) > DJ ROCKIT (SAC) > STILLWIND (SF) > DRE (SAC) > B-SIDE (SAC) > STOMPA (SAC) > RIF (SAC) > > in the Hamony room > ***HARMONY SHOWCASE*** > GREG SANDLER > ERIK BROWN > GIANNI > LI > ETHAN > LOGIK > J-BOT > URN > MAC. > > $20.00 @ the door on the night of the event > PRE-SALE TICKETS (LIMITED) $15.00 > AVAILABLE @ THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS: > > DIMPLE RECORDS, SAC > IMAGINE MUSIC, SAC > SUBSONIC UNDERGROUND, SAC > SOLID GROOVES , SAN JOSE > HOUSE WARES, SF > F-8, SF > DADDY'S RECORDS, BERKLEY > HARMONICS, SANTA ROSA > ROCK ON, FAIRFIELD > MOTION MUSIC, MODESTO > > call for more info!!! > 916.484.5700 800.204.3986 > > Hope to see you on the dance floor!!! > > Peace and love, > > Greg= ) > > btw, this is the first time ever that Erik Brown and > myself are going to be > playing on 4 decks!!! We are so excited and ready to > blow it up! We can't wait! > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 21:10:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1982 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 21:10:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 1682 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 21:10:15 -0000 Received: from f207.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.98) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 21:10:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 73033 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 21:09:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422210945.73032.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.197.178 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:09:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.197.178] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Harmony Crew at Digital Dreams!!! (bsp) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:09:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'd love to, but i still have to convince my friends that it's worth the drive! i know whatcha mean... how often do i get to hear the harmony crew? damn, it's usually close to two months, so, for me, the drive will be well worth it... -rani >From: loic comolli >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Harmony Crew at Digital Dreams!!! (bsp) >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:59:49 -0700 (PDT) > >who's going to this?? >i don't feel like going to a "large" party on friday night, especially >in sacramento, but the harmony crew makes it very appealing though. > >loic > >--- Greg Sandler wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> I just wanted to let everyone know that the Harmony >> Crew djs will be at >> Fuz-e's Digital Dreams event in force this Friday. >> We are going to rock >> Sacramento with that Harmony style vibe, so we hope >> that you can join us >> and help create another awesome party up in Sac >> town!!! Here is the info... >> >> >> Friday, April 23rd >> >> FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS >> >> presents ***DIGITAL DREAMS*** >> >> in the Fuz-e room >> CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE ,LA >> TAJ (SF) >> SIMON APEX (SSU) >> DJ ROCKIT (SAC) >> STILLWIND (SF) >> DRE (SAC) >> B-SIDE (SAC) >> STOMPA (SAC) >> RIF (SAC) >> >> in the Hamony room >> ***HARMONY SHOWCASE*** >> GREG SANDLER >> ERIK BROWN >> GIANNI >> LI >> ETHAN >> LOGIK >> J-BOT >> URN >> MAC. >> >> $20.00 @ the door on the night of the event >> PRE-SALE TICKETS (LIMITED) $15.00 >> AVAILABLE @ THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS: >> >> DIMPLE RECORDS, SAC >> IMAGINE MUSIC, SAC >> SUBSONIC UNDERGROUND, SAC >> SOLID GROOVES , SAN JOSE >> HOUSE WARES, SF >> F-8, SF >> DADDY'S RECORDS, BERKLEY >> HARMONICS, SANTA ROSA >> ROCK ON, FAIRFIELD >> MOTION MUSIC, MODESTO >> >> call for more info!!! >> 916.484.5700 800.204.3986 >> >> Hope to see you on the dance floor!!! >> >> Peace and love, >> >> Greg= ) >> >> btw, this is the first time ever that Erik Brown and >> myself are going to be >> playing on 4 decks!!! We are so excited and ready to >> blow it up! We can't wait! >> >> >> > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 21:27:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10606 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 21:27:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 10558 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 21:27:22 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 21:27:22 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04771 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990422143052.007e9ba0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:30:52 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: re: Harmony Crew at digital dreams! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For those of you who are tired of the overused Bay Area locations.... why not make a worthwhile trek to Sacramento. I know I will be there, have to support my hometown and its growing scene. And who can pass up seeing the Harmony Crew (Logik..yay!), plus Simon Apex and some up-and-coming Sac Djs... this is a great party folks... dont pass it up. See you in Sac!!!!! Love, Carly If you see me.. say hi! I'll be the girl in the blue hair again. <<>>> At 01:59 PM 4/22/99 -0700, you wrote: >who's going to this?? >i don't feel like going to a "large" party on friday night, especially >in sacramento, but the harmony crew makes it very appealing though. > >loic > >--- Greg Sandler wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> I just wanted to let everyone know that the Harmony >> Crew djs will be at >> Fuz-e's Digital Dreams event in force this Friday. >> We are going to rock >> Sacramento with that Harmony style vibe, so we hope >> that you can join us >> and help create another awesome party up in Sac >> town!!! Here is the info... >> >> >> Friday, April 23rd >> >> FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS >> >> presents ***DIGITAL DREAMS*** >> >> in the Fuz-e room >> CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE ,LA >> TAJ (SF) >> SIMON APEX (SSU) >> DJ ROCKIT (SAC) >> STILLWIND (SF) >> DRE (SAC) >> B-SIDE (SAC) >> STOMPA (SAC) >> RIF (SAC) >> >> in the Hamony room >> ***HARMONY SHOWCASE*** >> GREG SANDLER >> ERIK BROWN >> GIANNI >> LI >> ETHAN >> LOGIK >> J-BOT >> URN >> MAC. >> >> $20.00 @ the door on the night of the event >> PRE-SALE TICKETS (LIMITED) $15.00 >> AVAILABLE @ THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS: >> >> DIMPLE RECORDS, SAC >> IMAGINE MUSIC, SAC >> SUBSONIC UNDERGROUND, SAC >> SOLID GROOVES , SAN JOSE >> HOUSE WARES, SF >> F-8, SF >> DADDY'S RECORDS, BERKLEY >> HARMONICS, SANTA ROSA >> ROCK ON, FAIRFIELD >> MOTION MUSIC, MODESTO >> >> call for more info!!! >> 916.484.5700 800.204.3986 >> >> Hope to see you on the dance floor!!! >> >> Peace and love, >> >> Greg= ) >> >> btw, this is the first time ever that Erik Brown and >> myself are going to be >> playing on 4 decks!!! We are so excited and ready to >> blow it up! We can't wait! >> >> >> > > > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 21:38:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17174 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 21:38:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 17121 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 21:38:10 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 21:38:10 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27661 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990422144140.007ea7e0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:41:40 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: re: Harmony Crew at digital dreams! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FYI... neither T&J factory nor Daddy's (Berkeley) are selling tickets for this party, even though they are both on the flyer... wtf? -Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 21:41:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20987 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 21:41:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 20977 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 21:41:57 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 21:41:56 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (14429) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rITKa13355; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:39:20 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <97012a67.2450f0d6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:38:30 EDT Subject: Re: Harmony Crew at digital dreams! To: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/22/99 2:27:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: > For those of you who are tired of the overused Bay Area locations.... this party will be at an airforce base if my "inside connection" (haha) is correct :) ~Samantha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 21:59:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6698 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 21:59:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 6690 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 21:59:38 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 21:59:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422215312.29102.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.246] by attach1; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:53:12 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:53:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Nikita: John Digweed.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Friday Night John Digweed will be at Nikita....and I'll be there. I wish Harmony the best of luck in Sacramento, but I can't pass up Digweed. Who else is goin...?? =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 22:08:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13747 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 22:08:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 13709 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 22:08:44 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 22:08:44 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA29164; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: Jessica Webster cc: RLBGHARE@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, anna7@uclink4.berkeley.edu, mjohan@uclink4.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: Music and the brain In-Reply-To: <199904222019.NAA22929@mail.dsp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jessica Webster wrote: > That was great, and thanks for sharing. > > I have a question, tho: > > In the second part of the article, there's a judgement call that is really > culturally specific. That makes me question the whole report. > "neuroscientists at McGill discovered that different parts of the brain > involved in emotion are activated depending on whether the music is > pleasant or dissonant." At least there's no mention of what types of > music are representative of pleasant or dissonant, but I can think of > several traditional/classical types that fit either bill, depending on the > listener. sharp reading. perhaps they should have used familiarity instead of "pleasant/dissonant" criteria - i think it a plausible criteria for study (certainly less subjective than how "pleasant" the music is) considering the suspected link between brain's previous exposure to music & the subsequent interaction between brain and music. what cha think? very interesting article - thanx from me as well. 8-) byoung ____ "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, and you will have his shoes." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 22:23:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23405 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 22:23:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 23313 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 22:23:43 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 22:23:43 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-69.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.69]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20937; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <016501be8d0f$2296b300$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "Jessica Webster" , References: Subject: Re: Music and the brain Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:26:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have to add my praise to this email as well, very list related and quite an informative read. Thanks for sending it out, and to all who may have passed it by... check out your deleted items folder and read it... very good! Love & Music, -Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 22:24:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23762 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 22:23:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 23654 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 22:23:55 -0000 Received: from web132.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 22:23:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422222358.27584.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web132.yahoomail.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:23:58 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: re: Harmony Crew at digital dreams! To: Carly Bourne , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll sooo there!!!!! There will be a meeting point for the SacRavers at the water hole at 11:59. :) *HUGZ* pat --- Carly Bourne wrote: > > For those of you who are tired of the overused Bay > Area locations.... why > not make a worthwhile trek to Sacramento. I know I > will be there, have to > support my hometown and its growing scene. And who > can pass up seeing the > Harmony Crew (Logik..yay!), plus Simon Apex and some > up-and-coming Sac > Djs... this is a great party folks... dont pass it > up. > > See you in Sac!!!!! > > Love, Carly > > If you see me.. say hi! I'll be the girl in the > blue hair again. << love wigs!!!!>>>> > > > At 01:59 PM 4/22/99 -0700, you wrote: > >who's going to this?? > >i don't feel like going to a "large" party on > friday night, especially > >in sacramento, but the harmony crew makes it very > appealing though. > > > >loic > > > >--- Greg Sandler wrote: > >> Hello everyone, > >> > >> I just wanted to let everyone know that the > Harmony > >> Crew djs will be at > >> Fuz-e's Digital Dreams event in force this > Friday. > >> We are going to rock > >> Sacramento with that Harmony style vibe, so we > hope > >> that you can join us > >> and help create another awesome party up in Sac > >> town!!! Here is the info... > >> > >> > >> Friday, April 23rd > >> > >> FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS > >> > >> presents ***DIGITAL DREAMS*** > >> > >> in the Fuz-e room > >> CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE ,LA > >> TAJ (SF) > >> SIMON APEX (SSU) > >> DJ ROCKIT (SAC) > >> STILLWIND (SF) > >> DRE (SAC) > >> B-SIDE (SAC) > >> STOMPA (SAC) > >> RIF (SAC) > >> > >> in the Hamony room > >> ***HARMONY SHOWCASE*** > >> GREG SANDLER > >> ERIK BROWN > >> GIANNI > >> LI > >> ETHAN > >> LOGIK > >> J-BOT > >> URN > >> MAC. > >> > >> $20.00 @ the door on the night of the event > >> PRE-SALE TICKETS (LIMITED) $15.00 > >> AVAILABLE @ THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS: > >> > >> DIMPLE RECORDS, SAC > >> IMAGINE MUSIC, SAC > >> SUBSONIC UNDERGROUND, SAC > >> SOLID GROOVES , SAN JOSE > >> HOUSE WARES, SF > >> F-8, SF > >> DADDY'S RECORDS, BERKLEY > >> HARMONICS, SANTA ROSA > >> ROCK ON, FAIRFIELD > >> MOTION MUSIC, MODESTO > >> > >> call for more info!!! > >> 916.484.5700 800.204.3986 > >> > >> Hope to see you on the dance floor!!! > >> > >> Peace and love, > >> > >> Greg= ) > >> > >> btw, this is the first time ever that Erik Brown > and > >> myself are going to be > >> playing on 4 decks!!! We are so excited and ready > to > >> blow it up! We can't wait! > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * > > Carly Bourne------> > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 > BareStage Online--> > http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 22:35:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29981 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 22:35:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 29973 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 22:34:58 -0000 Received: from cubbie-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO cubbie.excite.com) (198.3.99.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 22:34:58 -0000 Received: from mystic.excite.com ([199.172.152.98]) by cubbie.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990422223429.TMG27420.cubbie@mystic.excite.com> for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:34:29 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence Message-Id: <924820469.11057.20@excite.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:34:29 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying hard to understand the perspective of those who feel we can't "blame" music, video games, movies etc. for what happens to our kids... but i have a problem with it, because i think that at a certain point, some things just have to be recognized as being dangerous, and as doing more harm than good. Some things just effect us in a bad way. For instance.... take a minute... and repeat after me (either silently if you're at work, or out loud if you can) ... fuck you, fuck you, nasty bitch, nasty bitch.... now make up some clever lyrics about blowing people away in mcdonalds because you got the wrong french fry order (real lyrics from a rap song my boyfriend used to listen to)... now, tell me how you feel.... really. i bet you feel sort of nasty and evil and angry and violent.... even if you weren't when you started. now... part two... go play a video game, or just imagine one... one where you have an automatic weapon, where your entire goal is to be on edge, stalking people who may run out in front of you in the hall (or droids, or shapes, whatever) ... and when you see them... quick, blow them away! boom, boom, boom!! yes, and there's a reward, you get to WIN for that! how's that adrenaline going? like it? THAT is what i'm talking about. we are creatures of habit, of behaviors that can be triggered and can be reinforced and can be developed and refined. and when that kind of stuff becomes rampant in our society, when little kids at the movies are yelling out "blow that motherfucker away" at a suburban movie.. we have to think about what we have created. when people defend lyrics like "i'm going to smack you up" or whatever, under "freedom of speech" ... but that doesn't mean you shouldn't *think* about it.... *think* about what that *really* means... when people carry guns in their cars and blow away someone whose driving they don't like... *think* about how far we have descended in our society. this isn't about the media making this stuff up... and it's not about judging how people dress or what kind of music they like.. and it's not about pretending that we don't have a dark side to our personalities and our human nature. it's about stopping and looking at the behavior patterns that are escalating at an ever-increasing exponential rate in our society, and saying... enough is enough. we have created monsters. how can we save ourselves from this course? what can we each, as individuals, do to bring us back to a point where we regain the ability to truly care about other people.. where we don't *accep* and defend violent behavior... be it by word or by action. i'm sorry that i'm ranting on about this... but i think it's so important... leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 22:37:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1406 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 22:37:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 1387 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 22:37:35 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 22:37:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422220137.18423.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:01:37 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:01:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Tonights Eklektik... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone going? Ill be there for sure this time. I cant wait. I gotta get there early cuz i gotta leave by one, i have given myself that curfew, lets see if it works out... Jess From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 22:42:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4423 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 22:42:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 4414 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 22:42:51 -0000 Received: from law2-f32.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 22:42:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 36865 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 22:42:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422224224.36864.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.32.147 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:42:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.32.147] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Tonights Eklektik... Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:42:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i forgot...is eklektik 21+ or 18+? cuz i might wanna go, but i need to know the age thing. argh! i hate being 18. love lia >From: Jess ica >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Tonights Eklektik... >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:01:37 -0700 (PDT) > >Anyone going? Ill be there for sure this time. >I cant wait. I gotta get there early cuz i gotta leave by one, i have >given myself that curfew, lets see if it works out... > >Jess > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 23:14:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25084 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 23:14:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 25068 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 23:14:06 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 23:14:06 -0000 Received: from Sarzey@aol.com (7817) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iATDa15096; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:53:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Sarzey@aol.com Message-ID: <387b6323.2451025c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:53:16 EDT Subject: Re: Tonights Eklektik... To: kandykid4@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: Sarzey@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Fom what i hear it is 18+... does anyone else have different info? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 23:17:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27782 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 23:17:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 27766 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 23:17:44 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 23:17:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422232159.5832.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.8] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:21:59 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:21:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Tonights Eklektik... To: Sarzey@aol.com, kandykid4@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes, Its 18+ --- Sarzey@aol.com wrote: > Fom what i hear it is 18+... does anyone else have > different info? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 23:19:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29025 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 23:19:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29009 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 23:19:48 -0000 Received: from law2-f201.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.201) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 23:19:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 39862 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 23:19:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422231921.39861.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.32.147 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:19:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.32.147] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Tonights Eklektik... Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:19:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks, i'll see if i'm gonna go tonight. >From: Jess ica >To: LuSh SnOOpiE >Subject: Re: Tonights Eklektik... >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:15:18 -0700 (PDT) > >Yipee! You can go! Its 18+ > >I may see you there! > >--- LuSh SnOOpiE wrote: >> i forgot...is eklektik 21+ or 18+? cuz i might >> wanna go, but i need >> to know the age thing. argh! i hate being 18. >> >> love lia >> >> >> >From: Jess ica >> >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> >Subject: Tonights Eklektik... >> >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:01:37 -0700 (PDT) >> > >> >Anyone going? Ill be there for sure this time. >> >I cant wait. I gotta get there early cuz i gotta >> leave by one, i >> have >> >given myself that curfew, lets see if it works >> out... >> > >> >Jess >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________ >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit >> http://www.msn.com >> > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 22 23:26:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3064 invoked by uid 6000); 22 Apr 1999 23:26:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3047 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 23:26:06 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (root@205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 23:26:06 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29975; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:12:49 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199904222022.NAA16767@mail.netwiz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:27:36 -0700 To: npm@netwiz.net From: terry estioko Subject: Re: FYI -- Colorado "Trenchcoat Mafia" Web Page Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk According to textfiles.com and supported by Salon magazine, this website is not the real deal and only a hoax....and a sick joke at that. Apparently, trenchcoat/goth/Littleton parody sites are starting to pop up now. -terry >> http://www.trenchcoat.org > >minutes after posting, this site disappeared or DNS-switched to >wiretap.spies.com (??). > >Anyways, it was a pretty scary looking page, w/ requests to Bill Clinton to >quit bombing yugoslavia and instead bomb "latinos and blacks and jocks" >(talk about strange bedfellows). And a spoof of that credit card (?) ad >with lists of prices of ammo, weapons, trenchcoats, and then "the look on >your clasmates faces when you point your at them... priceless". >And of course, the yearbook picture of their club... > >Nice foreshadowing, guys...BUNCH OF EVIL WANKERS! > >So what with the FBI wiretapping everybody's phones and computers, why >weren't they bright enough to take a look at this one? Oh, because it's >easier to brutishly infringe on civil liberties than use brains and cunning >to do the job we're paying you for?? (If I could vote with my taxes >i'd fire the lot of you!). > >Well, time to go fiddle with Java. Rome is burning. Isn't it strange that >last time it was the germanic "goths", and this time, it's the amerikkkan >southpark nazi goths. :-) > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << > >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 00:05:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22091 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 00:05:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 21956 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 00:05:32 -0000 Received: from f179.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 00:05:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 19165 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 00:10:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423001019.19164.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.204.186 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:10:18 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.204.186] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: I need a ride to Digital Dreams! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:10:18 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello, everyone! Unfortuanately, I couldn't convince my friends to go to Digital Dreams tomorrow. :( They want to go to All Play Together on Saturday, instead! *pout* If anyone has room in their car for a hapy kid that would love to chip in for gas $, lemme know! I live near Westgate Mall in San Jose. Thanks! -Rani From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 00:15:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28548 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 00:15:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 28526 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 00:15:08 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd110.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.174) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 00:15:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 76365 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 00:14:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423001441.76364.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.204.57 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:14:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.204.57] From: "sHaWn ." To: ascend@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Harmony Crew at Digital Dreams!!! (bsp) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:14:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk **** JUst added to DIGITAL DREAMS******** Dj Dna from the U.k. Is going to be flying out to spin at this party going 2x4 with Simon Apex. Dna is the dj/producer that did "kick your legs in the air" Yeah so this party is going to go off!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 00:30:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6052 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 00:30:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 6029 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 00:30:29 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 00:30:29 -0000 Received: from sei.com (ntws18.sei.com [198.202.174.85]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA28615; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371FBFD9.F9EBCAA5@sei.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:33:29 -0700 From: Martin Randall Organization: SEI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence References: <924820469.11057.20@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you know, leslie, i think it's the old matter of jumping to the conclusion that "the media is to blame for everything", which i for one don't believe. i *do* believe it's a contributing factor along with a bunch of other factors, and i wish (we/the media/society) would be more responsible in what we churn out and watch. i don't think it should be legislated, so it's going to have to be voluntary, and we'll have to see how *that* works.... i think, for instance, that record companies that release crap like the song you quoted are *not* being responsible because this *does* influence kids. especially impressionable kids who don't have strong direction at home and are yearning for something to latch on to and believe in. this stuff has no redeeming value that i can see. but what gets the hackles up of a lot of people when they hear this is that they assume that we (or whoever) are blaming the media for all of societies ills, which just ain't so. it's just another thing that isn't helping. on the other hand there *are* a lot of insightful, uplifting movies about how good people can be and how important friendship/ love/family is, or whatever (well, maybe not a lot, but some! :) ). the media has a huge potential to sway opinion and even the course of history (look at how hitler used the media. some would say look at how the "powers that be" today use the media). i really feel that in that position they need to show a lot more responsibility than they are showing now. the media should be trying to raise the bar rather than lower it. - martin leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > I'm trying hard to understand the perspective of those who feel we can't > "blame" music, video games, movies etc. for what happens to our kids... > > but i have a problem with it, because i think that at a certain point, some > things just have to be recognized as being dangerous, and as doing more harm > than good. Some things just effect us in a bad way. > > For instance.... take a minute... and repeat after me (either silently if > you're at work, or out loud if you can) ... fuck you, fuck you, nasty bitch, > nasty bitch.... now make up some clever lyrics about blowing people away in > mcdonalds because you got the wrong french fry order (real lyrics from a rap > song my boyfriend used to listen to)... now, tell me how you feel.... > really. i bet you feel sort of nasty and evil and angry and violent.... > even if you weren't when you started. > > now... part two... go play a video game, or just imagine one... one where > you have an automatic weapon, where your entire goal is to be on edge, > stalking people who may run out in front of you in the hall (or droids, or > shapes, whatever) ... and when you see them... quick, blow them away! boom, > boom, boom!! yes, and there's a reward, you get to WIN for that! how's that > adrenaline going? like it? > > THAT is what i'm talking about. we are creatures of habit, of behaviors > that can be triggered and can be reinforced and can be developed and > refined. > > and when that kind of stuff becomes rampant in our society, when little kids > at the movies are yelling out "blow that motherfucker away" at a suburban > movie.. we have to think about what we have created. > > when people defend lyrics like "i'm going to smack you up" or whatever, > under "freedom of speech" ... but that doesn't mean you shouldn't *think* > about it.... *think* about what that *really* means... > > when people carry guns in their cars and blow away someone whose driving > they don't like... *think* about how far we have descended in our society. > > this isn't about the media making this stuff up... and it's not about > judging how people dress or what kind of music they like.. and it's not > about pretending that we don't have a dark side to our personalities and our > human nature. > > it's about stopping and looking at the behavior patterns that are escalating > at an ever-increasing exponential rate in our society, and saying... enough > is enough. we have created monsters. how can we save ourselves from this > course? what can we each, as individuals, do to bring us back to a point > where we regain the ability to truly care about other people.. where we > don't *accep* and defend violent behavior... be it by word or by action. > > i'm sorry that i'm ranting on about this... but i think it's so important... > > leslie > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 00:34:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9466 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 00:34:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 9439 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 00:34:24 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 00:34:24 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8UPD4WX; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:33:26 EDT To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:50:52 -0800 Subject: Custar Studios Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? Message-ID: <19990403.025054.-108341.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6,9-17 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The place you are speaking of is called Custar Studios. AMAZING LOCATION! Unfortunately, IDM was the last party to be held there. The venue isn't exactly legal for those kind of events. The city found out about what was going on and the owner stopped renting it out. I was able to get private party permits for IDM, but was the first and the last to get permits for it, except for Blue Room that weekend. I have since tried to get the venue again, but no deal! Also, I have heard a rumor that Blue Rooms are still held there but they are the only people that can get it still. If anyone can confirm this, lemme know! -galen < Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26371 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 00:58:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 26352 invoked by uid 233); 23 Apr 1999 00:58:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 22305 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 18:31:25 -0000 Received: from mail.tentv.com (HELO mailserver.tentv.com) (207.138.33.36) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 18:31:25 -0000 Received: from [208.236.135.2] by mailserver.tentv.com (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.abup) with ESMTP id na223431 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:36:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980422112736.009388d0@mail.tentv.com> X-Sender: fgreen@mail.tentv.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:27:36 -0700 To: cloudfactory@cloudfactory.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, From: Forest Green Subject: "Ravestaock" is a sham...PLEASE READ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not that anyone on this list was going, but... > More on the "ravestock" thing. . . http://www.ravestock.com ----- >Original Message ----- From: DJ SOS To: >WNYSOR-L@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 1:10 AM >Subject: "Ravestaock" is a sham...PLEASE READ >Friends, >I have waited until now to write this because Dr.Trance, myself, and >others wanted to contact the nessecary people to confirm the validity of >the "Ravestock" promotion. It is, and always has been a scam. None of the >billed DJ's have been booked/contacted and Wonderland is unable to hold >"Rave" type events due to a curfew that is law. I encourage anyone who has >purchased tickets, or more importantly; has any information... to call >TIPS and let the Authorities know. A special crimes unit has been made >aware of this and the poeple involved in this scam are currently being >investigated, and will soon be brought to justice for ripping off ravers >across North America. I sincerely hope that you understand my/our position >is not that of a "Rat" but for the common good. If I recieve any more >information regarding this, I will post it here as well as on WNYSOR, and >the TRIBE board. Please help spread the news that this is a scam. It is my >policy to "Ignore the negitive, and support the positive" but in this >case; I cannot stand by while people are being robbed. >>I >LEn. >P.S. >If you are part of this and reading this... >The truth is ALL that will set you free. >YOU CANNOT HIDE FROM FATE. > > > > >I > "We together are greater than each of us could ever be." F O R E S T G R E E N Video Applications Specialist ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ T E N T V http://www.tentv.com 520 S. El Camino Real, #300 San Mateo, CA. 94402 phone 650.685.1010 x235 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 00:59:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27418 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 00:59:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 27404 invoked by uid 233); 23 Apr 1999 00:59:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 15825 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 19:35:31 -0000 Received: from bcnode2.briefcase.com (HELO isocor.briefcase.com) (206.79.140.114) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 19:35:31 -0000 X-Internal-ID: 370A5C140008E8AE Received: from www21 (206.79.140.91) by isocor.briefcase.com (NPlex 2.0.123); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:31:22 -0700 Message-ID: <370A5C140008E8AE@isocor.briefcase.com> (added by postmaster@isocor.briefcase.com) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:35:29 -0700 Reply-To: yana@briefcase.com From: "Yana" Subject: Re: Spundae and 4:20 ? X-Mailer: Visto To: jvlavianos@cu-help.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 (Visto) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes, it's true. Grand openning was on 4/20 at 4:20pm. My friends were there, and yes, Jerry was running the register. They said everything was still packed in boxes, and whatever was available didn't have price tags yet. They said they liked it better than F8. It is on Height but I don't know the cross street. I can't wait to go check it out myself. Yana Jay wrote: > Has anyone heard about Spundae opening its own > record shop called 4:20 ? I > heard its somewhere on Haight street. To top > it off, they said that Jerry > Bonham is running the place. Is there any truth > in this, or was someone > just pulling muh leg ? > (They also said John Digweed was there yesterday > spinning!!!) > > Love & Music, > -Jay > > Better than free email: shared calendar, files, and more... Get your 'Visto Briefcase' at http://www.visto.com/info From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 01:01:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29087 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 01:01:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29078 invoked by uid 233); 23 Apr 1999 01:01:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 16613 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 22:58:44 -0000 Received: from web132.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.175) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 22:58:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422225854.3328.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [38.28.75.104] by web132.yahoomail.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:58:54 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:58:54 -0700 (PDT) From: dmarie Subject: *StaR EyeS* -presha- SagE-JamaLSki-pk-CloCKwORk @ EKLEKTIC To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, dmarie yo Cc: Griffin Emily MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk **hello** ***smiles*** We are glad to be mixing it up tonight, hope you can join us. Are you down with the one and only, lady Star Eyes? Can you feel the Presha? See the beautiful Sage and smell the Sativa scents. Join them, us, Jamalski and the danefloor representatives tonight at ekLeKtIc. Strickly mixed-up smaashing drum 'n bass *** **** *** **** On the lower level: PK and Clockwork hip-hop, breaks and beat juggling. We are located in the minna street alley, building 78, South of Market in SF. Connect with us 415.332.5800 X797 HEY? We Kung Fu? Will you? In honor of Skylar Ringland and her intense commitment to the dancefloor, This Wednesday at the DNA lounge in SF, we present The 1999 Kung-Fu Knowledge Tour. Check out Bailey, Rob Playford, Craze, I.8.7., Ezra, Machete, MC Chicaboo, Sage, Al Simmons and a live martial arts performance from the SF Tai-Chi crew. Of course the man himself, Idris (Spectr) will be in full effect with his visual blacklight junglism, and Kung-Fu Mystic visuals will be your eye candy for the night. WEDNESDAY APRIL 28TH, DNA LOUNGE, $12.00, 21+, brought to you by Eklektic ~ Density ~ Groundscore and the SF Jungle Massive. Big Up and support your local junglists. dmarie & Miss E From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 01:56:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29420 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 01:56:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 29412 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 01:56:23 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 01:56:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423015500.1028.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.3.238] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:55:00 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:55:00 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: Nikita: John Digweed.... To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk me and deepbeep and DJ Prophet... see ya there. mickers o)-< --- Jeremy Bispo wrote: > Friday Night John Digweed will be at Nikita....and > I'll be there. I wish Harmony the best of luck in > Sacramento, but I can't pass up Digweed. > > Who else is goin...?? > > =)jer > > > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 01:56:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29962 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 01:56:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29857 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 01:56:33 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 01:56:33 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (14442) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKMZa05754 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:55:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: <3278d552.24512ce3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:54:43 EDT Subject: Re: Harmony Crew at Digital Dreams!!! (bsp) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: Abbo1234@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am definitly going to this!! Especially considering that I live in Sac!! It will be great!! PLUR Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 02:31:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18204 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 02:31:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18189 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 02:31:39 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 02:31:39 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14410) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3GZKa19330 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:30:51 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <4e1f30fd.245134fe@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:29:18 EDT Subject: Re: a good party place.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk lets do a benefit rave!!!! we'll convince a couple djs to play free, handmake decorations, screw lighting, we don't NEED it....god, we can't let the phoenix disappear!!!!!! lemme know if anyone is up for organizing this!! aaahhh, i'm getting all misty...gotta go get a tissue. *sniffle* alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 02:44:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25259 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 02:44:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 25250 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 02:44:49 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 02:44:49 -0000 Received: from [209.209.6.74] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10aVxN-00014s-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:44:45 -0700 Message-ID: <001101be8d32$77ca9940$4a06d1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: Subject: NEW INTERNET VIRUS Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:39:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: cutiejudie@yahoo.com To: maxik@slip.net Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 5:29 PM Subject: Yahoo!Clubs cLuB raVa GyrL >Another ForwardeD MesSaGe >= OP > >This message was sent to me from a friend of mine. I guess >>it's best to be carefully of all e-mail. You never know. Hopefully >>everyone has an anti-virus on their machine. .. >If you receive an email >>titled "It Takes Guts to Say 'Jesus'" >DO NOT open it. It will erase >>everything on your hard drive. > >Forward this letter out to as many >>people as you can. This is a new, >very malicious virus and not many >>people know about it. This >information was announced yesterday morning >>from IBM; please share it >with everyone that might access the internet. >>Once again, pass this >along to EVERYONE in your address book so that >>this may be stopped. >AOL has said that this is a very dangerous virus >>and that there is NO >remedy for it at this time. Please practice >>cautionary measures and >forward this to all your online friends ASAP. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 02:47:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26961 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 02:47:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 26949 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 02:47:03 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 02:47:03 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14410) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rAWEa16596; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:42:24 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <216c7c25.245137f1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:41:53 EDT Subject: nrr:Re: Lost @Harmony To: thatpisces@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeeeaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!! thrift store are the sh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my whole wardrobe comes from them. thank god for the little kid section at salvation army! : ) alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 02:47:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27633 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 02:47:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 27607 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 02:47:22 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 02:47:22 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14410) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uJMPa03569; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:45:29 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <6cf27383.245138bd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:45:17 EDT Subject: Re: cheese tortillas (was Re: promoters make hella loot!!!!) To: hernancz@sirius.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk actually, it's better to toast both sides of the tortilla , then flip it over and add the cheese. : ) alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 02:49:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29244 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 02:49:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 29235 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 02:49:45 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 02:49:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19103 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 02:49:43 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 02:49:43 -0000 Received: from thegrid.net (station198.thegrid.net [209.162.3.198]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA11157; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <371FDF9D.336C4B4F@thegrid.net> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:49:02 -0700 From: BreakBeat X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Randall , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence References: <924733798.21917.771@excite.com> <371F62B4.D1333995@geocities.com> <371F7501.6D0DA207@sei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, it surprises me this should even come up on this list, where we should all be so concerned about people stepping on our rights. The fact is, I don' t listen to rap like that, nor death metal. I personally find most of the lyrics either insulting, disrespectful to women and people in general, and vicious. However, they have a RIGHT to produce it, it does not HARM anyone physically, it might suggest harmful behavior, yet the decision to do those things is still in the hands of the individual. Simply commenting on the harmful nature of these mediums is never enough, it always results in people saying we should censor these mediums. Bring your kids up right and you don't have to worry about it. Cause i gauentee you if you leave them alone, without attention, without helping them develop any positive self image in many cases they will end up criminals, murders, whatever. Blaiming the music is a cop out for all those parents who want society to take of there kids for them by censoring content they are too lazy to censor themselves. symmetry Martin Randall wrote: > That was a very thoughtful response, and I kind of agree, but > I have to agree more with Leslie - as another concerned parent. > I do think the negativity and violence portrayed in "the media" > does desensitize people. I don't buy the line that "it just reflects > our own lives". Maybe the gangsta-rappers live in a world of > drive-by shootings and disrespect for human life and dignity, > but most of us don't. Most of our lives are pretty humdrum, go > to work, go to school, hang out with our friends, etc. We're > more-or-less law-abiding (well, at least we're not killing people!) > We don't live in this dark underworld of violence. > > It may be intriguing for people to listen to this music, or watch > these movies, to get a taste of the dark side. But I think it does > drag on the soul and builds a kind of resistance to looking at > the positive things in life. I am just appalled at the stuff I hear > in some rap these days, and I reckon I am pretty open-minded. > > Obviously not everyone who listens to rap or watches a violent > movie goes out and shoots people. But I feel that those who are > already susceptible will be influenced and desensitized by the > violence that is seen and accepted in the media. And if they are > already marginal, they may be drawn past the point at which a > catastrophic outcome like we saw in Colorado may result. Just > saying "it doesn't make *me* shoot people" doesn't wash - not > everyone who smokes dies of lung cancer, but it's a contributing > factor. > > And I don't think the media is solely to blame - probably much > more of a factor is the dissolution of the family and parents > abdicating responsibility for giving their kids guidance and love. > I think this is the real problem, but even then there are kids > who seem to have loving parents and they go out and do stuff > like this. It's a tough problem with no simple solutions. > > I don't really have an answer - the media is controlled by money, > so they will churn out whatever sells movie tickets or cd's, and > people for whatever reason have an appetite for this stuff. > > One scary thing though - my son told me that they were discussing > the Colorado shootings in his class yesterday, and the teacher > asked how many of the kids in the class could go out and get a > gun (illegally). About half the kids in the class knew where they > could get a gun! I'm not talking about stealing daddy's gun from > home, I'm talking about from some shady character willing to sell > guns to schoolkids! Hell, if schoolkids know who to go to to buy > a gun, how come the police aren't busting their asses to kingdom > come?!?! Are they too busy monitoring raves lists or something? > I just hope this is not true! > > Oh well, back to my humdrum life...... > > - Martin > > Siphon wrote: > > > I agree and don't agree. > > > > The media can't find a reason for the kids doing what they did so "lets > > blame music and movies"??? That's questionable... > > > > I listen to rap that has negative words. I watch movies that have > > negativity. But you don't see me going out killing everything in > > sight. I'm still sentimental when I see such violence as this past > > shooting and all the other horrible actions that have taken place in the > > last two years. Society has already been programmed and it wasn't from > > music or movies or tv. All this crap that we're seeing has been > > happening years before movies etc. > > > > Now I'm sure negativity in movies and music doesn't help out any, but > > lets not jump on the bandwagon and say "they did what they did from the > > music they listen to or movies they watch". It doesn't help, but its > > not the reason. > > > > For many years society has tried to blame artist > > (tv,movies,art,music,etc.) when all the artist is doing is representing > > what he/she sees in society already. That's the artist way of getting > > it out of their system. They didn't create the mess in society, and its > > not fair to say they did or are the reason there are 15+ students dead. > > Society did this over time. Its the world around us that makes the > > movie or the music. Not the other way around! > > > > I don't have to listen to negative music or watch negative movies to see > > the ugly truth that lies all around me. I can go crazy right now just > > driving in traffic. So I can't agree that music or movies are the cause > > of mass murders, etc.. On the contrary they don't help any either. > > > > Just my comments, thanks for reading. ;) > > Siphon > > > > leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > > > > > > saturday, when we were setting up for harmony, someone put a rap tap into a > > > boombox and turned it up.... and it really annoyed me because i found the > > > words negative and disturbing... a few of us were talking about it, and some > > > people said "i just tune it out" .... > > > > > > but i don't think we *can* tune things out, and i think that listening to > > > negeative rap or angry punk rock or stupid aggressive shit in general, with > > > words of hate and violence, with anger and agression in the lyrics... i > > > think this stuff goes right into your brain, whether you notice or not. > > > > > > and i think we need to be careful with how we are "programming" our > > > brains... which is one reason i like the positive subliminal words that are > > > often used in techno, trance and house music. we need all the positivity we > > > can get. > > > > > > this all came back to me last night watching the news, where the media is > > > grasping for ways to categorize these fucked up high school children who > > > worked together to create a scene of total destruction against those they > > > apparently felt were against them. (sorry, i can't muster up to much > > > sympathy for them personally, no matter how sad their lives, i don't see > > > them as the victims) > > > > > > and i wonder what kind of music they were listening to, what kind of beats > > > and words they gravitated toward that they felt expressed the world they > > > live in. (the media said they liked "german techno punk" or something) > > > > > > this is just sharing a thought that i've had many times, that we must > > > recognize the power of words, not just in media and movies that we program > > > ourselves with (and don't tell me that's not "programming" becuase it is... > > > when you become insensitive to horrendous violence because you've seen it on > > > tv or moves over and over again, you have been programmed to accept it)... > > > > > > i think we all need to think about how the music we choose to listen to not > > > only expresses what we have inside of us, but it also creates who we are > > > inside and how we see the world. > > > > > > these are just my thoughts.... and i try to be aware of my music choices in > > > this context. > > > > > > another thing i wonder is if we'll see is that use of amphetamines played a > > > part in this tragedy... the paranoia that results from crystal or crank use > > > falls right in line with this scenario. > > > > > > it's a sad sad time for parents and children, for all the citizens of our > > > society... and hopefully a chance to see how we can make some changes that > > > shift the world we are creating around us. > > > > > > love, leslie > > > > > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > > > > -- > > _____________________ > > S i p h o n > > Urban Assault [99] > > info: 408.882.5064 > > http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 03:04:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5080 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 03:04:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 5062 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 03:04:30 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 03:04:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423024758.85.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [24.4.254.67] by web1; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:47:58 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: General E Subject: New pictures from the Gathering To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk New pictures from the GATHERING (Oakland April 3) have been posted to RaveLinks (http://www.ravelinks.com) -General E www.ravelinks.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 03:26:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15797 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 03:26:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 15754 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 03:26:28 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 03:26:28 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14428) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oGSWa27453; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:30:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <72d8ad51.24513524@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:29:56 EDT Subject: Re: negative words and violence To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Anachra@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4-22-99 3:35:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, leslie.ayres@excite.com writes: > I'm trying hard to understand the perspective of those who feel we can't > "blame" music, video games, movies etc. for what happens to our kids... erf ok....I was really wanting to stay out of this whole thread altogether...I felt I wasn't really equipped to talk about it, but here I will pitch in my half cent worth of stuff here...I believe that there may be somethin to this idea that media/animated/interactive/musical/etc violence has a direct effect on kids....BUT the part where i lay the responsibility on parent's is in monitoring what your children interact with...granted the boys responsible for this were at the far end of the adolescent spectrum and probably old enough to be held responsible for their own actions. but still, if we're going to argue that >it's about stopping and looking at the behavior patterns that are escalating >at an ever-increasing exponential rate in our society, and saying... enough >is enough. we have created monsters. how can we save ourselves from this >course? what can we each, as individuals, do to bring us back to a point >where we regain the ability to truly care about other people.. where we >don't *accep* and defend violent behavior... be it by word or by action. then we must also acknowledge that the worst monsters in all history, people, have all been somebody's children. so yes, WE have created monsters, PARENTS have created monsters....i have to go with the old adage here, "guns don't kill people; people kill people"....music doesn't MAKE our children go off the deepend...... err...thanks for listening to my half cent...I also should offer that this is the opinion of someone who is NOT a parent...and can never know certain things until becoming one... -spacey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 04:13:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10368 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 04:13:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 10317 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 04:13:18 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 04:13:18 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (8067) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMJKa19332 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:12:12 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:12:08 EDT Subject: (meetingspot) anyone wanna have a Digital Dream???? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so whats up everyone! ok..so this is the plan... i just talked to "simon apex" a few hours ago and he said that this party will be at an airforce base in sac somewhere. i'm guessing there will be one or two water booths, maybe one main water booth and a smaller one. so, can the people that are going says, "lets meet at the 'main' water booth at 1am!!!"...or anyone have a better suggestion? ~Samantha....and....who is all going to this wonderful event? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 04:33:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19054 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 04:33:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18890 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 04:33:17 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 04:33:17 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA05281 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:33:15 -0700 Message-ID: <005601be8d42$b0b89f80$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: Custar Studios Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:35:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is this the same place where resolution was on NYE? i went to another party there before a few months ago, it's cool... just wondering! alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: the town drunk To: thatpisces@yahoo.com ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 5:34 PM Subject: Custar Studios Re: Name the top 3 reasons why? >The place you are speaking of is called Custar Studios. AMAZING LOCATION! >Unfortunately, IDM was the last party to be held there. The venue isn't >exactly legal for those kind of events. The city found out about what was >going on and the owner stopped renting it out. I was able to get private >party permits for IDM, but was the first and the last to get permits for >it, except for Blue Room that weekend. I have since tried to get the >venue again, but no deal! >Also, I have heard a rumor that Blue Rooms are still held there but they >are the only people that can get it still. If anyone can confirm this, >lemme know! > -galen > > ><<<< ><or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 04:40:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24435 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 04:40:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 24412 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 04:40:11 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd110.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.174) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 04:40:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 72829 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 04:39:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423043944.72828.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.198.58 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:39:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.198.58] From: "sHaWn ." To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (meetingspot) anyone wanna have a Digital Dream???? Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:39:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > >~Samantha....and....who is all going to this wonderful event? I will definetly be there. Every one has got so see billy lane(b-side) vs.dre jump jungle at its best!! If any one is intrestead there will be a sacraves meet up at 11:59 at the water booth if any of you are intrestead come and meet up with us for a sacraves and sfraves meet up. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 05:06:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7263 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 05:06:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 7115 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 05:06:33 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 05:06:33 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (326) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKWPa13188; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:05:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: <982b3c77.24515999@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:05:29 EDT Subject: Re: (meetingspot) anyone wanna have a Digital Dream???? To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: Abbo1234@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think that it should be earlier than 1am. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 05:08:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8468 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 05:08:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 8446 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 05:08:18 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 05:08:18 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (89) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJHNa08724; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:07:24 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <35783ddc.24515a0a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:07:22 EDT Subject: Re: location scouts(Danville/Grange/Veterans Hall) To: LordNyxx@aol.com, Anachra@aol.com, AdidasXE7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WhrDaMud@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Bro u gots to b kidding you know the pigs in Danville would never allow such a party to go on in their city.....errrrr...... but then again it gives em a reason to strip search each and every one of us, witch no doubt they would like. And it would actually give em something to do besides sitting on their thumbs and pulling over cars with kiddies in it and not to mention harassing all the younger folks in Danville. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 05:29:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17907 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 05:29:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 17898 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 05:29:44 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 05:29:44 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (89) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQJQa06721 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:29:06 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <387c0961.24515f21@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:29:05 EDT Subject: [nrr] New words for the 90's To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WhrDaMud@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here are Some New Words for the 90s, many of which we can readily import into widespread daily usage: Blamestorming: Sitting around in a group discussing why a project was missed or failed, and who was responsible. Chainsaw Consultant: An outside expert brought in to reduce the employee headcount, leaving the top brass with clean hands. Cube Farm: An office filled with cubicles. Ego Surfing: Scanning the Net, databases, print media and so on, looking for references to one's own name. Keyboard Plaque: The disgusting buildup of dirt and crud found on computer keyboards. Mouse Potato: The online, wired generation's answer to the couch potato. Ohnosecond: That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize that you've just made a big mistake. Prairie Dogging: When someone yells or drops something loudly in a cube farm, and people's heads pop up over the walls to see what's going on. Swiped Out: An ATM or credit card that has been rendered useless because the magnetic strip is worn away from extensive use. Xerox Subsidy: Euphemism for swiping free photocopies from one's workplace. Going Postal: Euphemism for being totally stressed out, for losing it. Makes reference to the unfortunate track record of postal employees who have snapped and gone on shooting rampages. Assmosis: The process by which some people seem to absorb success and advancement by kissing up to the boss rather than working hard. Beepilepsy: The brief seizure people sometimes have when their beeper goes off (especially in vibrator mode). Characterized by physical spasms, goofy facial expressions and interruption of speech in mid-sentence. Midair Passenger Exchange: Grim air-traffic-controller-speak for a head-on collision. Midair passenger exchanges are quickly followed by "aluminum rain." Percussive Maintenance: The fine art of whacking the crap out of an electronic device to get it to work again. Seagull Manager: A manager who flies in, makes a lot of noise, shits over everything and then leaves. ------------------ Trying to subscribe, unsubscribe or change addresses???? - Please help YOURSELF at the website: - http://www.angelfire.com/hi/ovydd/humor.html ------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 05:45:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23016 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 05:45:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 23004 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 05:45:32 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 05:45:32 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (8066) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOJKa16598 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:44:34 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:44:19 EDT Subject: THE Official Meeting spot for Digital Dreams!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Party: Digital Dreams Meeting spot: the "MAIN" water booth!!! Time(s): 11pm for those early birds....and once again at 1am!!! Who's invited?: Why EVERYONE of course!!! What too look or listen for: lots of people talking or people yelling, "SFRAVES!!!SFRAVES!!!" ~Samantha :) see everyone there! i'll be wearing a scooby doo back pack, a crown, and indigo color eye lashes!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 06:08:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1807 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 06:08:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 1676 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 06:08:32 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 06:08:32 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (3878) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3UTZa14181; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 02:07:23 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 02:06:47 EDT Subject: Re: Nikita: John Digweed.... To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anyone know where this lil 18 yr old raver can get a fake id by then???? jk but u do wish i could go!!!! have fun all of u lucky older kids!!! love and hugs and kisses, tina In a message dated 4/22/99 2:59:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mercutio73@rocketmail.com writes: << Friday Night John Digweed will be at Nikita....and I'll be there. I wish Harmony the best of luck in Sacramento, but I can't pass up Digweed. Who else is goin...?? =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 07:09:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 835 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 07:09:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 825 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 07:09:55 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 07:09:55 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (14418) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFZPa20238; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:09:00 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:08:58 EDT Subject: Re: Harmony Crew at digital dreams! To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: JUNGurlE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 99-04-22 17:42:08 EDT, you write: << > For those of you who are tired of the overused Bay Area locations.... this party will be at an airforce base if my "inside connection" (haha) is correct :) ~Samantha >> Yeah isn't it Mather Airforce base?? thats right by my fams house! and since I live in Crack-ramento.. i'll be there :) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 07:18:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3782 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 07:18:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3769 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 07:18:09 -0000 Received: from web130.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.199) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 07:18:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423071816.2558.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.212.64.100] by web130.yahoomail.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:18:16 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:18:16 -0700 (PDT) From: lynz Subject: For FuTuRe reference To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk is anyone planning on going to Metropolis? i know i know... it's kinda early to ask.. but still.. im just curious, okay? :) i think im planning on going, and my friends from LA are coming up that weekend and it'll be their VERY FIRST party in the Bay Area... (how exciting huh?) okay... so tell me what your plans are... maybe we can meet up? Lynz === "I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 07:47:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9758 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 07:47:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 9750 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 07:47:08 -0000 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 07:47:08 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust133.tnt6.sfo3.da.uu.net [153.37.17.133]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06734; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37202468.A970508A@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:42:32 -0700 From: dcasio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Manuel G. Quiogue" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SRR: UCSB Incident References: <000a01be8cf1$ec9ef540$690000c0@manuel-laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah she was the president of a sorority down in UCSB. She dropped and then she had problems breathing. She later passed that nite b4 the paramedics arrived. I met her before and she was really sweet girl. "Manuel G. Quiogue" wrote: > I'm sorry if this a little off subject and a bit of a downer, and I hope I > don't offend anyone by *assuming* some of us have been known to take E from > time to time, but there's been an e-mail going around concerning the death > of a UCSB student, supposedly due to E. > Apparently, a 21 year old senior named Elizabeth Fang died from taking E > earlier this month. The e-mail originated from a friend of hers urging > people to no longer take E. > Well, I actually got this post from one of my hook-ups who said that she > didn't feel comfortable hooking me up anymore. So, in my disappointment and > anger, I started doing research to try and prove that this was nothing more > than an urban legend. > I did searches on the web and couldn't find anything on this Elizabeth Fang. > I decided to call the news reception desk at the campus newspaper, who > confirmed her death. I suspect that there are some mitigating factors, some > contributing condition to what happened, i.e. mixed with a prescription > drug, or other drug, bad batch, or a medical ailment, not just a regular > drop. But the autopsy results have not yet been released, and will not be > until next week. > Please don't start calling the campus paper, as they will probably start > refusing to answer questions next week when they have more info if they get > inundated with calls this week. > So I'm wondering if anyone here is from or knows someone in the Santa > Barbara area, who might be able to shed some light on this subject, who > might be able to access more information. I strongly believe that > authorities will probably try to pin this one unfairly on E, and maybe > partying in general, which will affect as all. We need to be prepared with > the truth. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 07:59:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15160 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 07:59:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 15152 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 07:59:19 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 07:59:19 -0000 Received: from KlNGSHADY@aol.com (14435) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAPGa15097 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: KlNGSHADY@aol.com Message-ID: <9849e72.24518235@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:58:45 EDT Subject: LATE HARMONY REV. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Reply-To: KlNGSHADY@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Uhm ok first of all the decorations were fabulous and the set up was cool but it was WAY TOO HOT IN SIDE , hotter then it normaly is at that nasty 2nd and jackson shit ! and it Felt like i was swimming around in a pool of E BITCHES dripping from sweat and gunk ! it sucked because everyone that walked past me Got icky sweat on my Clean ass and it made me sick , and i had to leave early cuzz i had too much of OPS on me ( other peoples sweat ) . Also it was way to Packed inside with lots of random people that like came out of no where??? where do all these tacky people come from i swear its like all these MISTER RAGS SHOPPERS turned into INSTA RAVERS , whats going on ??? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 08:05:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18619 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 08:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 18608 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 08:05:17 -0000 Received: from mail-gw6.pacbell.net (206.13.28.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 08:05:17 -0000 Received: from [206.170.2.193] (ppp-206-170-2-193.sntc01.pacbell.net [206.170.2.193]) by mail-gw6.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id BAA13753 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 01:10:34 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: li sasaki Subject: ***Weekend BSP among other things*** Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whud up. Just wanted to let everyone know that I'll be closing out Digital Dreams in the Harmony room this Friday in Sacramento (800) 204-3986. This party should be pretty dope. I'm really excited check out the Sacramento scene. I'll also be boarding at Sierra at Tahoe enjoying the spring conditions on Sunday. Sunday night, I'll be playing at Divine Intervention around 11pm. at 78 Minna. Hope to see some of you! -li l i s a s a k i @ p a c b e l l . n e t l i @ v i b e r a t i o n . c o m w w w . v i b e r a t i o n . c o m / l i v m ( 4 0 8 ) 4 1 5 - D J D J From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 09:05:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6540 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 09:05:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 6528 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 09:05:04 -0000 Received: from f169.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 09:05:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 29810 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 09:09:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423090930.29809.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 02:09:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: recording info...music/dj/stuff kinda stuff Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 02:09:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey has anyone ever hooked up their vcr to their turntables and recorded a set....the sound quality is really good...and you can get 6-8 hours on a vhs tape.....think of the possibiliteis :P aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 09:14:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8196 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 09:14:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 8184 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 09:14:06 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 09:14:06 -0000 Received: from SnShYn30@aol.com (8056) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHLEa20194 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 05:13:29 -0400 (EDT) From: SnShYn30@aol.com Message-ID: <9cb65379.245193b7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 05:13:27 EDT Subject: ALL play TOGETHER??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Reply-To: SnShYn30@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay I was wondering if anyone knows where this party is gonna be held cuz at Harmony someone told me that it was not at 2nd and jackson. WOW! But i dont think its at 85th and baldwin either so where else on or near Heggenberger is there besides Homebase??? (if this is even the street its on which is what i was told). Anyways if anyone knows thatd be great:) <3 LiSa <3 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 10:28:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9119 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 10:28:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 9105 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 10:28:44 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?qb0DC2r6awCXjFDRQVt9K41hxw4u7F2S?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 10:28:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id DAA19383; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:28:43 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: yoyoyoyoyo gramma Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Eklektic is as sick as it could ever get. That shit is gone a make you puke it's so sick. Hi hello howdy are you home hello hi? Eklektic is as good as it gets. dmarie...Miss E...get up stand up big up BUT... If you go to 1015 Folsom tomorrow night and you are upstairs from 1-3am you are going to miss Footloose. I saw him wreck shit at betalounge tonight. And we ate some jerk chicken and talked some shit about footy, and listen up, this guy has plates that will make your nostrils flare. Believe that. And yo, straight up, Jamalski and Mr Brown are going to tight rock the Rico's, Saturday. Big BOH yah. 78 Minna is going to be the place you meet your future mate, Mr Minervuh seh sa. And late night, 4:30-6am N-Man and myself the halfpint honkey Mc DUH in the hotseat are going to freak the latenight trance raver crew into a long dark tunnel at All Play Together. THAT IS ALL 10-4, duh, max aka ninja paddy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 13:59:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29686 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 13:59:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 29606 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 13:59:24 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 13:59:24 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.84] (libya-211.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.211]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29689; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 06:59:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:16:33 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Fri) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... Sometimes I think war is God's way of teaching us geography. ---Paul Rodriguez ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 14:52:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17819 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 14:51:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 17799 invoked by uid 233); 23 Apr 1999 14:51:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 6674 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 06:18:59 -0000 Received: from f296.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.187) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 06:18:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 48678 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 06:18:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423061831.48677.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.134.231.117 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:18:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.134.231.117] From: "DJ Goldilox" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Fwd: S.P.A.Z. party friday night Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:18:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >info line 800-486-6862 > > >> here's the last major S.P.A.Z. thing before we go on the road for a >> long time.... >> >> >> >>>>>>Manifest Eris >> >> An urban festival of post-industrial chaos-culture...... >> >> featuring: >> >> performing live electronic/noise/dub experiments >> >> Cthuluhoop >> >> Arachne Konsept vs. MC Resista >> >> Moth Hour >> >> Lazsus >> >> Valley Fever >> >> DJ's--- >> >> Binnie (5lowerShop Audio) >> >> Flux (B.A.S.S. kru,Compound records) >> >> (k)raig (Onions of Armaggedon) >> >> + surprise S.P.A.Z. dj's >> >> >> also look out for the random appearance of Simon's Extra Action >> Marching Band and members of the Fireflies performance troupe..... >> >> Vegan Cafe by Tracer will be selling a variety of incredibly >> ass-kicking munchies and chai.... >> >> >> This is event will go from dusk till dawn, come early to catch all the >> live performances and to avoid the crush....all ages--no i.d. >> required---$5 >> >> >> Location: S.P.A.C.E. ----2870 Chapman St. Oakland ,CA 10 minutes >> from Fruitvale BART >> >> >> Bus from San Francisco!!!! >> Departing 973 Minna at 11pm --returns to S.F. after party ends >> $20 includes entry into party and round trip on Moondog's plush >> double decker bus.... >> >> if you're driving from S.F. and need some riders to fill your >> vehicle,,consider stopping by 973 Minna to offer a lift to people who >> may not get on the bus..... >> >> >> >> >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 14:52:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18767 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 14:52:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 18640 invoked by uid 233); 23 Apr 1999 14:52:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 22885 invoked by uid 228); 23 Apr 1999 06:57:16 -0000 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:57:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar for 04.22.99 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Party like you've never partied before. Have a weekend filled with joy and ecstacy! Karina ==================================================== What lies behind us karina@hyperreal.org and What lies before us are tiny matters When compared to What lies Within Us. -Oliver Wendell Holmes ==================================================== The SFR Calendar http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Thursday, April 22nd - We Only Love You HALOU celebrates the release of its debut CD, "We Only Love You" on Bedazzled Records DJ SEP, DJ MEI-LWUN (of Soulstice) . From the deceptively calm opening notes to it's hypnotic finale, HALOU prove themselves endlessly captivating and compulsively listenable. 10pm-. 111 Minna Street, SF. Thursday, April 22nd - Therapy presents Foreplay ~tek-House Resident~ Jasonian (Plush, FTT, Kindness). 9pm-2pm, 21+. Hi-Fi, with all new sound!, Lombard@Fillmore, SF. http://www.funkytekno.com Friday, April 23rd - Exact:Scienc presents PLEASE...BE CALM An evening and morning full of Live "AMBIENT" Music. Featuring live preformances and rare remix projects by :, Kit Clayton (Cytrax records), Alloy (Nick Philip and Jeff Taylor), Moron (Sutekh & Safety Scissors,CONTEXT Records), Charles Uzzell Edwards(FAX), Pimps of Atlantis(featuring Consciousness Lab & special guest guitarist Shawn Kener), Markus Miller, Guest Djs Joe Rice(Justice League/Static) & Prof.Smith(Xlr8r), Very Special Guest, *SPOOL (Newdog records)!"kicks Global Comunications butt",Dj BreAd. This is a small event for those who enjoy experimental music.There are limited pre-sale tickets only ($5.00) on sale at OpenMind Music 342 divisadero/oak in SF(tickets go on sale this sunday)hopefully we will have some on sale at Primal in the east bay(not worked out just yet).The event will be held at a Beautiful urban space in Downtown San Fran. Email for More info 9pm-6am/ish (9hrs), . 415.789.8308 Friday, April 23rd - S.P.A.Z. and S.P.A.C.E. presents Manifest Eris harnessing the power of chaos! dj Flux (B.A.S.S. kru), Arachne Konsept w/MC Resista, Cthuluhoop, more dj's TBA, Last Minute Midnight Cirkus vs. Fireflies. all night tekno-drum and bass-hardtek-speedbass-?? underground East Bay warehouse dusk-dawn, All ages, $5. http://www.hyperreal.org/~spaz 1.800.486.6862 415.281.8407 Friday, April 23rd - FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS presents DIGITAL DREAMS ROOM ONE, CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE ,LA, TAJ (SF), SIMON APEX (SSU), DJ ROCKIT (SAC), STILLWIND (SF), DRE (SAC), B-SIDE (SAC), STOMPA, (SAC), RqIF (SAC), ROOM TWO - HARMONY SHOWCASE, GREG SANDLER, ERIK BROWN, ANDY W, LEE, ETHAN, LOGIK, J.BOT, URN, MAC, GIANNI. MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED. PRE-SALE TICKETS (LIMITED) $15.00, $20.00 @ THE DOOR ON THE NIGHT OF THE EVENT. AVAILABLE @ THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS DIMPLE RECORDS, SAC (916) 781-2800, (916) 983-2600, (916) 925-2600 IMAGINE MUSIC, SAC (916) 971-1188 SUBSONIC UNDERGROUND (OPENED MARCH 2),SAC (916) 441-2775 SOLID GROOVES , SAN JOSE (408) 999-2059 HOUSE WARES, SF (415) 252-1440 F-8, SF (415) 221-4142 DADDY'S RECORDS , BERKLEY (510) 665-1653 TRANCE & JUNGLE FACTORY, BERKLEY (510) 704-9876 HARMONICS, SANTA ROSA ((707) 571-8747 ROCK ON, FAIRFIELD (707) 571-8747 MOTION MUSIC, MODESTO (209) 577-6965 P.S JUNE 5, 1999 FUZ-E PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS BASS INVADERS II, MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED. 916.484.5700 800.204.3986 Friday, April 23rd - Lightseed Collective presents Lightseed Family Gathering More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Friday, April 23rd - Squeeze Adnan , Ray , Nathan . In the Blue Room @ Nikita. 12am -4am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. Saturday, April 24th - Uniting Souls presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of SF's underground Special guests: E.T.I. (Oboro Records) featuring Liana Young on live vocals, Freaky Daum (Freaky Chakra), Jason Henry (Uniting Souls/Legion of Funk), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls/Chemistry). Liana is an angel from the funkiest place in the heavens! Her soulful vocals and E.T.I.'s intense musical expression will raise the energy on the dancefloor to amazing levels! Join us for one incredible night of music. Between 3rd & 4th off Townsend. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. 330 Ritch, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, April 24th - MOMS SONIC ODYSSEY WITH RAINDANCE PRODUCTIONS presents presents GESTATION Marky Mark (wicked), Tracy (daddy's music), Subal (13moontribe), Little John (raindance), Brother (spaceship gaia), Tom LG (raindance), Keone (raindance), Adam (raindance), Pollywog (SF). Virgin Location, between Franklin and Webster in Downtown Oakland. Fresh Smoothie Bar. Live Ambient Performances by:. Foxgluv (santa cruz). Sonic Odyssey (san francisco). 359 12th St.. 415.527.5072 831.425.3316 , April 24th - Come out and Play Presents presents Flavor Shubert, Dizolve, Atomic Dj ( V.O.R.G ), Jeff ( Atp ), Damon ( Atp ). Free daytime potluck BBQ. Leave an area code please at number posted. Look for more daytime warmup parties TBA soon. 12noon-. Central Park, Santa Clara. 408.302.3748 Saturday, April 24th - Raindance Productions presents Spring Fever - an Earth Day Celebration Markie (Wicked), Tracy (Daddy's Records), Foxgluv (live PA), Subal (13 moon tribe), Keone (Raindance), Polywog (Sister, S.F.), Tom L-G (Santa Cruz), Adam (Raindance), Little John (Raindance). Virgin Location - limited capacity - presale recommended. For presale locations call (831)457-7864. 10pm-6am, . 831.425.3316 415.527.5072 510.889.2922 Saturday, April 24th - [vertigo.jpg] presents Devastatement The V.U. begins it's monthly explorations into drum n bass and downtempo featuring, Jason Mouse, Push, Andrew Jervis, Corbin, Huckster. Cross Street: Sanchez. 10pm-2am, 21+. Cafe Du Nord, 2170 Market, SF. 415.339-8688 Saturday, April 24th - Uniting Souls presents SoundTextures Come feel the abstract sounds of SF's underground Special guests: E.T.I. (Oboro Records), Daum (Freaky Chakra), Jason Henry (Uniting Souls/Legion of Funk), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls/Chemistry).. Join us on the dancefloor for one incredible night of music! Between 3rd & 4th off Townsend. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. 330 Ritch, SF. 415.273.5449 510.273.2493 Saturday, April 24th - Phunky Phonography Productions presents >>))*All Play Together*((<< We hope you can come out this weekend so we can ALL PLAY TOGETHER SPESH (Looq Records), MYSTRE (F8), MARS (F8), DUTCH (Inner Eye), DYLOOT (Skills, MHz, HK), TOM SLIK (Skills, T&J Factory), TRACER, RADLEY MARX (MHz, Elemental), UPHONIC (E.T.A.), KEMICAL KIDD (E.T.A.), DEPTH (Space Dreams), TELENE (Phunky Phonography), nman (Biofonik, Silverpearl), QUICKSTEP& JAIR (PhunkyPhonography), Majere (Phunky Phonography). Tickets go on sale Fri April 9th at: F8 (S.F.), Trance and Jungle Factory (Berkeley), Harmonics (S.R.), Solid Grooves (S.J.), and Pipeline (Santa Cruz). Presale only, great location, limited capacity, free bottled water at the door. 10pm-6am, . http://www2.ucsc.edu/~jarman 415.289.6553 Saturday, April 24th - cybertropic comm./5 families presents dive Urgency: the TRANCE affliction trance-Inducers, KEITH E. (SOLID GROOVES), Skyscraper (SO. BAY TRANCE CO-OP), DIVERSION (V.O.R.G), gEoff ;-) (Stargaze Family), Micron (Viberation), B))MERANG FIDGET, ERIC SPIRE (QUEST/SILVER PEARL RECORDS), MACADIO (First Light), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance & Jungle Factory), Dr. Bubble (BLANKFACE), dj D (TRANCE & JUNGLE FACTORY), Joaqman (5 FAMILIES), JD (SYNCOPATED/L.A.). ALL AGES**FREE FRUIT**FREE JUICE**FREE SOFT DRINKS. CAN YOU DIG IT??? 21+. $10 PRE-SALE . 510.330.1101 415.339.8735 Saturday, April 24th - The Unity Vibe Tribe asks you to ask yourself, are we ALLONE DJ STEW-XMIX- FLORDIA, JERRY BONAM-SPUNDAE, DJ ROMAN-SNR-PRODUCTIONS-SEATTLE, JAZZ-E, MODA, N8-UNITY VIBE, SAHID-BERLIN, GERMANY, TROY ROBERTS-SEATTLE, VERTIGO, LSDJ-UNITY VIBE, ERIC MICHAEL-UNITY VIBE, JOSHUA JACOB, JOEY-HOUSE NATION. THIS WILL BE A PLACE CREATED BY THE UNITY VIBE TRIBE. WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL GENERATIONS CAN GATHER IN PEACEFUL UNITY TO CELEBRATE THE REVIVAL OF THE OLD SCHOOL POSITIVE DANCE VIBE THAT HAS KEPT OUR UNDERGROUND SCENE ALIVE. LIGHTING BY STIMULIGHTINGS-UV99-X-TREME 9pm-7am, . 650.361.0950 408.271.6900 Sunday, April 25th - Harmonics presents DAYSHINE Ryan Wilber (NBC, Discovery, Vorg, Sparkle), Urn (NBC, Harmonics, Harmony, Discovery), Sean Norton (Magic, Body Rock, NBC). 12pm-4pm, Free. 707.571.8747 Friday, April 30th - Petit La Croix Featuring:, Group Petit La Croix: Folkloric Voudou - A Haitian Dance Company, CCAC Interior Architecture Students. See the Museum's Roche and Dinkeloo designed Modernist building transformed by CCAC students into a performance space for Group Petit La >Croix dance company, and explore Voudou with Hatian art expert Susan Tselos. Part of OMCA's California Fusion Culture Series, made possible with generous support from the Oakland Museum Women's Board. One block from Lake Merritt BART. No host bar and snacks. 7pm-10 pm, . Admission: $5 OMCA members & CCAC Students with ID, $7 General. Oakland Museum of California, 10th and Oak Streets. 510.238.6556 Friday, April 30th - FULL MOON PARTY DAVIE, ROBOT, DENNIS (thc), FLASH (SRC), RODNEY, DAVE & MAGAIL (LIVE, DIJAREDO, DRUM AND FIRE., 530.893.2005. The Party will be held 5 miles outside of Chico. We will be doing a MAYPOLE dance to heal this WORLD WE LIVE ON. We hope you can join FUNKY BABY'S FAMILY. 11pm -sunrise, All ages. 916.381.8545 Friday, April 30th - Foundation presents FIRST FLOOR Insurgent techno featuring:, dj99!, arcane Alchemy, loopy, the kidd.. outside. Free. 415.339.8099 Friday, April 30th - COURAGE House Music: , Mark Farina, Iz, Andy Caldwell, Sharon Buck, Ray Fales, Downtempo: , Laron, PBS, Mei-Lwun, Saga. In Honour of Christopher Scott Jewkes. A benefit for the California AIDS Ride 6, to bring AIDS awareness & hope into our communities. 9PM-2AM, 21+. $10 donation. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Friday, April 30th - Full Moon John Howard, Rob Doten, DJ David Coleman, John Rodriguez , Eric Erickson, TJ. Live: SenSei. call for info Outdoor Location. Free. http://www.SFHouse.com 415.339.8015 Friday, April 30th - Nocturnal Productions presents XOX RETURNS THREE YEAR ANNIVERSERARY TBA. A secure central bay area location more tba next week Friday, April 30th - V.O.R.G. Productions presents ***HI!*** (VORG pre-party) 2 ROOMS FILLED WITH, JERRY BONHAM (Spundae), MARS (Frequency 8), MYSTRE (Frequency 8), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory,VORG), JUSTIN HALE (Simply Cosmic), RYAN WILBER (NBCHarmonics,VORG), ERIK BROWN (RebirthHarmonics), DJ D (Trance and Jungle Factory, VORG), ATOMIC DJ (VORG, BASS Records), ALIAS (Question Mark Productions), SUPREME-C (VORG). $12. 415.750.3100 Friday, April 30th - The Colorblind Collective and Theatre Now! presents Honey Mike Wilson, Drone, Meadow, Hak, Siphon, Mark Clark, Pengo, Leath, A.L.E.R., Ikon, Amber, Jeph, Andy W, Joaqman, Ryan Christopher. Monterey Bay Location Free Fruit-Water, Free Chai Brought to you by Nub Chai. Even though this is a benefit for Theatre Now!, Tix are going to be be $10 so we can all spend the evening together as a cohesive family bonded by the love of music! Tickets are limited so get them early at Solid Grooves in San Jose. 9pm-7am, . 408.682.3500 Saturday, May 1st - l o v e w o r k s d a n c i n g presents a mayday birthday celebration for loveworks family member robnoxious for the love of may... deep grooves and sonic architecture: resident dj matt valenz, guardian: robnoxious, introducing dj iggy. btwn: 2nd / new mont. / mission . howard, s o m a these events are in partnership with the minna street gallery, now showing: l e n n i e m a c e ' s : 3 6 5 DAZE / ballpoint pen exhibit love / laughs / incense / flowers / candles / + the mightiest house music on earth. an audiosocial project implemented and monitored by the DDC. 9pm-. Minna Street Gallery, 111 minna street, SF. Saturday, May 1st - Blue Room First time U.S. Appearances - Techno/Trance Live acts from Germany and the UK, Montauk P. (Blue Room), Gabriel LeMar (Spirit Zone), Saffi Brothers (Blue Room), Rules of Hypothalamus (Blue Room), Techno/Trance DJ's:, Adam Ohana (Blue Room), Djaydee (Evolution/Gaia), San Francisco's Top and International Drum & Bass DJ's:, Siren (XLR8R/Bassment), Sage(Phunckateck), Double A & Twist (Dune Recordings Canada), Method One (Compound Records/Synthetics), Steven Tune(Nova Productions/Audible Colors), DownTempo Beats & Atmospheric Drum & Bassment DJ's:, Freaky Daum (Freaky Chakra) Kaos (Compound Records/Synthetics), Surreal (Blue Room), Anon (Blue Room). 21+ W/ID (please remember your ID's). Also Blue Room is planning an all ages event mid May Stay Tuned!!!) 10pm-7am, 21+. $15 @ the entry portal, $10 Before 11pm. 550 Barneveld, SF. 1.888.682.7666 Saturday, May 1st - Harmony productions and Harmonics Records presents ***DISCO BISCUITS*** (a theme in silver) Starring:, GREG SANDLER, ERIK BROWN, GIANNI, J-BOT, MAC, URN, Co-Starring:, RUSSEL G, SHOAM, R2 WITCO, ROACH, TOM-E, RANDOM. Free Glowsticks for people dressed in SILVER THEME! $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE to the BEST DRESSED DISCO KING AND QUEEN ***be there @ 1:30 am for the crowning of our Disco King and Queen!!! There are NO PRESALE tickets for this event. All tickets must be purchased at the map point which is Harmonics in Santa Rosa. We have a beautiful venue located in the North Bay and you don't want to miss this old school Disco style party!!! This is the first in a series of brand new Harmonics Records parties, so stay tuned... 408.486.9591 415.289.6788 Saturday, May 1st - Ghostribe Krew presents Acid Breaks 3: The 2 Year Anniversary, and 5 Year Ghostribe Reunion Mayday Celebration Ruff Beats, Breaks and Jungle! DJ STRYKE (Adrenalin Records Super Remixer and Producer), DJ GHOST and FRANK NITTY (Ghostribe Krew, on 4 turntables), MISS KNIGHT (Ghostribe Krew), JOEY MAZZOLA and DAVID GARCIA (House Nation, on 4 turntables), KWASHI and KEVIN KIND (on 4 turntables, Feel Good Family), TRIPNOTIX (Beat Down), RINSE and FLUX (B.A.S.S. Kru/Compound Records) , MC JAMALSKI (Ruff Neck/Reality, NYC), HAK and SIPHON (Urban Assault), JOSHUA JACOB (027), SIDEBURN SLIM (Diverse City), SPEK and DANJA (Ghostribe Krew), EVA (Raw Atmosphere), SAUCER and the Illustrious TOM KAT (Highlanders), RASTA CUE TIP (Brick, S.F.), T-SKI (M1 Productions), TOMMY MEYER, PHIL HOWARD. Complete with the original ::: Players Inc. Chill Zone ::: Sound by Xtreme Audio & Alien Nation Crew, Visuals by I-Candy, Lasers by UV-99, Lighting and Effects by Stim-U-Lights, Environment by Ghostribe Krew. ::: Limited, Discounted $20 Pre-Sale Tickets on sale now at ::: COMPOUND RECORDS, 6 Valencia St., SF, 415-864-8309, SOLID GROOVES, 2271 The Alameda, San Jose, 408-248-6399, MIXOLOGY, 1670 Mendocino Ave., Santa Rosa, 707-526-1230, ROCK ON, 1630 N. Texas St., Fairfield, 707-422-2080, TRANCE and JUNGLE FACTORY, 2575 Telegraph Ave., Berkeley, 510-704-9876, GHOSTRIBE, 2096 Merced St., San Leandro, 510-483-9862 or buy tickets online @ http://www.sfrecords.com Location: International 9PM-6AM, . Rave Center, 633 Hegenberger Road, Oakland. http://www.ghostribe.com Saturday, May 1st - Unit-E Tribe presents ENERGIZE randell (unit-e tribe / sac), wayne (unit-e tribe / field junkies), rick preston (glasgow underground rec/ san jose), tony (the gathering / moody rec / sf), sol (togetha / sac). 10pm-. sacramento. 916.810.4879 Saturday, May 1st - Radio-V.com presents May Day is Jay Day! Tom (Koinonea), Rob Rayle (Sacred Dance Society, Koinonea) , Tim (CCC). Join the Dance For Pot Party at the Million Marijuana March and Rally! Featuring: speakers, exhibits, live music, pot song-a-thon, Dance for Pot Party and the Pot Pride Parade at 4:20pm. Fun for all! Come out to San Francisco and dance for pot! Email High noon-5pm, . Civic Center Plaza, SF. http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm 415.971.3573 Saturday, May 1st - 420 Kidz presents Vibe Creation 2 Traxx (Chicago Soul Foundation), Justin Long (Chicago I.H.R.), Tyson Howell (Chicago 420 Kidz), Mike Dreben (Toronto Sonic Mind Record Live PA), Guido (L.A. Biohazard), Melanie (S.F. House Collective), Paucus (S.F 420 Kidz), Dj Alert (Iowa City Hoodlums U.S.A.), Mars vs. Mystre (S.F. F-8), Dyloot (S.F. skills), Happy Kid Marty vs. Happy Kid Ian (S.F. Happy Kids), Red Eyes (Chicago 420 Kidz) vs. Jeff Z (S.F. 420 Kidz), Bryan Lee (Global Energy Musik, SF/LA). 510.466.5695 415.364.1665 Sunday, May 2nd - Uniting Souls presents Sunshine Daydream... a daytime gathering "And as we let our own light shine...our presence automatically liberates others." - Nelson Mandela. TBA, 510.273.2493, Main Room: Special 4-hr set by Onionz and Joeski (NYC/Chocolate Factory), John Howard, Mark Farina (Om Records), Moses (SoundTextures), DJ Riddler (Housepitality), Adnan (Squeeze/Blue Room Nikita), Jungle Room: Arc Angel Gabe Real (PBS/Future Breaks crew), Abstract (Phunckateck), , Star Eyes (B.A.S.S. Kru), Tik-Tak (Ruffneck Reality), Miss E (Eklektic/Future Breaks FM 90.3), MC's Angel and Jamalski. Visuals by Spectrumega Media (L.A.). .2pm-2am, 21+, $15. $10 before 4 pm. 715 Harrison, SF. 415.273.5449 Wednesday, May 5th - FABULOUS FREAKY Art Show Opening A reception to meet the artists Alex Clausen and Sherry Koyama DJ Optimist spinning drum n bass.. In the Art Building at the UC Davis. Email 6pm-9pm, Free. Basement Gallery. 530.297.6163 Friday, May 7th - Torque Productions presents Progression 1)House/Breaks:, Thomas Michael (Phatt Phunk Records, Roofless Productions; LA), James Christian (Caffiene collective, Nervous, Strictly Rythem Records; NYC), Ty Tek (Teknight Records, Basic Entertainment, Torque Resident;Denver CO), Satori C (Humble Souls, M.E.S.S., Basic Entertainment, Torque, Resident; Denver, CO), Matty B (Housewares; SF), Chris K (Chicago), Seannie (Seattle), DJ Torque (Torque Resident; Denver), Drum and Bass:, Rinse (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF), Flux (SF B.A.S.S. Kru, Compound Records; SF) , Jamalski (Ruffneck Reality; N.Y.C.), Push (Future Breaks, 90.3FM; SF), Satori C (Denver, CO) , Kaya (Live techstep P.A.,Torque Resident; Connecticut), Eva (Raw Atmosphere; SF), DJ Sharp (Torque Resident; SF), Misc. B (Moist Crew; SF), Kunoichi (Moist Crew; SF). Limited Presale Tickets at $17.00 available @ Housewares, SF; Compound Records, SF; In tha Mix, Sac; Solid Grooves, San Jose. 415.345.9668 Friday, May 7th - ...your monthly turn-on...The RhythMethod Gurlz got tha RHYTHM! Cold War, Little Mishka, Melanie, Amber. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Il Pirata, 16th St & Potrero, SF. http://www.bass-station.com/rm/ Saturday, May 8th - The WONDERFUL WACKY WORLD OF FUNKY BABY The first of 4party's to benefit the BURNINGMAN PROJECT this September. 10pm-sunrise, $5. Zocolo room , 6th and Broadway, Chico. 916.381-8545 Saturday, May 8th - Skills presents a free party in Golden Gate Park Dyloot, Tom Slik, Radley, Mars, Mystre, 510.869.4601. all day, music from 1pm-6pm, free. http://www.elemental.nu/skills 415.437.4460 Saturday, May 8th - Forward Motion Productions presents SPREAD THE WORD A small family gathering with your DJs Dutch, Josh Shwab, Kwashi, Miah, The Riddler, Micron, Joe-Joe, Ric V, Jeff Taisch, Vince, , Juggernaut(live PA), plus special guests. space limited to 300 people. Leave message on voice mail for carpooling information 5pm-8am, . $5 presale tix @ Daddys(berk), In tha Mix(sac), and online at sfrecords.com . http://www.sfrecords.com/spread 415.364.1407 Saturday, May 8th - ***VORG*** 3 ROOMS FILLED WITH:, JOHN KELLY (Funky Desert Breaks * Moonshine Records LA), ASTRAL MATRIX (o.o.b.e. Music SF) , TROY ROBERTS (Global Phases Seattle) , MARS & MYSTRE (Frequency 8) , JUSTIN HALE (Simply Cosmic) , THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory * VORG), GREG SANDLER (Harmony * VORG), DYLOOT (Skills * MHZ * HK), TOM SLIK (T&J Factory * Skills), J-BOT (Harmonics), GIANNI (Spundae * Harmonics), ZORAN (VORG), DJ D (T&J Factory * VORG), RYAN WILBER (NBC * Harmonics * VORG), ERIK BROWN (NBC * Harmonics), ATOMIC DJ (VORG * BASS Records) , DIVERSION (VORG) , ARIEL-CYBANA (VORG) , MERLYN (VORG). Pre-sale @ Harmonics 707.571.8747, T&J Factory 510.704.9876, f-8 415.221.4142, Group 3 - BASS Records 510.796.3570, Solid Grooves 408.248.6399, Music CD World 650.938.7555, Mixology 707.526.1230 - MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE TBA CALL OUR 24HR INFO LINE $20. 415.750.3100 Saturday, May 8th - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL 2 Featuring some of the best up and coming DJs from all around the bay area., Sceduled to appear:, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Kid Mathis, Franklin of the 12 Monkeys, Plus special guests:, Vince (Double Down), Kwashi, Rick V. (In The Mix), and our friends Mike and Cadence.. This free outdoor gathering will be going down from noon till dark. Bring your day time nessecities and be discrete. 415.436.0714 Sunday, May 9th - Pulse Main Room DJ's:, Blackstone, Ellen, Front Room DJ's:, Trouble, Bud Chism, Chip McClure. A gay tribal fest with hot go-go boys and club kid dancers. A Primal Groove party! For more information, please e-mail: primalgrve@aol.com 3pm -11pm, . 2 guests for the price of 1 ($12/per couple) b/w 3 pm - 4:30 pm w/ flyer. $12 cover after 4:30. 1015 Folsom, SF. Wednesday, May 12nd - AUDIO PRESONIFICATIONS Esoteric research..... frisco d-formation news alert!!! LO-KI (One of the mad originators of konkrete jungle n.y.c.), EVA (representing housewares s.f. queen of the natural evolution of frisco drum n bass), DJ MASSIX (esoteric resident, massix's tactics are always, changing new direction). entrance : 339 Jesse St, SF. GET IN FOR FREE every Wednesday FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by going to : SPARK 601 Eddy St @ Larkin at the BACKFLIP 21+ $4 dollars featuring SAN FRANCISCO's downtempo , jungle, earth vibes party on TUESDAYS and getting tix here on dates tue:4/6, 4/13, 4/21 only. 9pm-4am, 18+. BIG HEART CITY, 836 mission st , SF. Friday, May 14th - Inertia Three rooms of sound:, Hip Hop w/, Wisdom, Raw-B, House + Trance w/, Joshua George, Dutch, Chill Lounge w/, Addy, Joshua, Jacob. Free after hours with admission. $10 Limited presales available at: Housewarez on Haight. Cocomo, 650 Indiana @ Mariposa, SF. Saturday, May 15th - CloudFactory Fashion Show. Keep your ears to the underground for more information..... This is the official date for the Cloudfactory Design Collective Fashion Show. The CFDC is throwing a fabulous multimedia extravaganza, intended to showcase the formidable breadth and depth of talent that lies within the Cloudfactory Collective. The fashion show will be held from 7-9pm. The reception/party will be held from 9pm-3am. Fully permitted San Francisco locale. 7pm-3am, . Pre-sale tickets will soon be available. Saturday, May 15th - First Light Collective presents First Light one year anniversary DJ's in Room 1:, Mars Vs.Mystre, Happy Kid Ian Vs. Happy kid Marty, Greg Sandler Vs. AndyW, Macadio, Andrei Morant (Template Records UK), Room 2:, Hak Vs. Siphon, Rinse Vs. Flux, Protolab (Live PA), Micron. Sound By Xtreme Audio, Lasers By UV99. This is a permitted Event. Presales Go on sale 4/20/99 at: F-8, Solid Grooves, Harmonics and In the mix. 10pm-6am, . 415.646.0763 Friday, May 21st - children of the sun presents and the journey continues.. Brad (Moontribe/LA), Beatseed (Journees/Seattle), Greg Sandler (harmony), andyW (viberation), Micron (viberation), Macadio (First Light) . As Always Free Fruit & Lemonade - Limited Capacity - Presale Tix Strongly Advised. We Love You All / Spread The Warmth. 415.835.3144 Friday, May 21st - Presented by Silly and XLR8R Magazine presents MAZE Bringing you the best in international tribal techno trance. Adam X (Sonic Groove, NY), D.A.V.E. the Drummer (Live, Liberator Crew, UK), Maya 13/Deaks, Henrik Rosdahl, Mystrë, Charlotte the Baroness, Push, Justi. Every 3rd Friday of the month. 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. free b4 10:30. 550 Barneveld St., SF. 415.263.6750 Friday, May 21st - Da Roc entertainment presents ETERNAL PARADISE TOONS Quiet House Productions, REMEDY dmc finalist/B92.9/FM90.5, JV VALASCO da Roc entert., DJ PAPI groove night club , NOTORIOUS NORM City nights guest DJ - DJ CASUAL Rebel entert., DJ HEEBEE Club X guest DJ. US Dream Girls oil wrestle live on stage! Hard Body contest! FSA dance squad presents Haluan live on stage! It's also the beads night! 4 Go-Go cages, 2 stages. $170 thousand dollars worth of sound and lights including lasers. ALL AGES room &18+ room Fully stocked bar for those who are 21+. Freaky attire suggested. $15. 831.429.7779 Saturday, May 22nd - small gathering Indoor event, an evening of jungle, trance and sick beats Mickey, Anakin, Sonic (aka Maize). More info on line up will be released later. $12. 415.449.7101 Saturday, May 22nd - l o v e w o r k s d a n c i n g presents " nature, rhythm, cloud, and sky " [ a celebration of the continuous beat of life ] for the love of may... featuring guest dj arkay performing an extended opening set, deep grooves and sonic architecture: resident dj matt valenz, guardian: robnoxious. btwn: 2nd / new mont. / mission . howard, s o m a these events are in partnership with the minna street gallery, now showing: l e n n i e m a c e ' s : 3 6 5 DAZE / ballpoint pen exhibit love / laughs / incense / flowers / candles / + the mightiest house music on earth. an audiosocial project implemented and monitored by the DDC. 9pm -. Minna Street Gallery, 111 minna street , SF . Saturday, May 22nd - We Got The Funk Bone (Detriot), Dj Dan (SF), Charles Feelgood (MD), Onionz (NY), Tony, Simon, Dan Isaac, Dj Pat, Anton, Dee, The Hitmen, Jonene (Stompy), many more to be annouced. Live: ETI. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 22nd - Twelve Monkeys SF presents PHUNKSKOOL: 2nd Period Dan, DJ BONE, Dj Pat, Charles Feelgood , Tony, Simon, Jesse Brooks, Onionz. 415.436.0714 Saturday, May 22nd - Trance & Jungle Factory presents Trance and Jungle Factory 2 year anniversary TBA. Watching this space. Friday, May 28th - Star*burst Productions presents Star*burst Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony/Harmonics), Joe Lanzon (Bagok Tribe), Jeyson (Davis Funky Family), Dragn'fly (Epiphany), Hoth (Positive Theory). 100% fully permitted new Sacramento location. Proceeds to benefit the Sacramento Food Bank. Presale Tickets can be purchased @ In Tha Mix and Imagine Music in Sac. and Primal in Berzerkeley... $5 w/ a canned food item, $7 w/o. 916.815.4337 Friday, May 28th - May 31st - Lightseed Collective presents Butterfly A Lightseed Campout in praise of Julia Butterfly Hill in honor of Luna More info to be announced... http://www.sfrecords.com/lightseed/ Saturday, May 29th - NOMAD INTERACTIVE presents ORIGIN-MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND GATHERING. MORE TBA.. 415.675.5605 510.433.9933 408.278.5553 916.554.0554 Saturday, May 29th - Clockwork Eventz presents METROPOLIS 7 Underground dance districts of diversity METRODOME:, Donald Glaude, Terry Mullan, DJ Rktech, Hipp-E,, Jeno, Tony, The ELECTRIC KINGDOM:, Charlotte The Baroness, DJ Liquid, DJ Ghost, Miss Knight, J-Boogie, Deep in the GARNET KONKRETE JUNGLE:, R.A.W. w/ MC?, Rinse & Flux w/MC Jamalski, U.F.O., Aaron V., DJ Dose, The Infamous Highlanders, FUNKYTOWN: Funky Beat's 4 yr anniversary:, Simon, DJ Doubt, DJ Matthew, Paucus, David vs.Joey Mazzola on 4, Jasen C., SECTOR 2:, Jon Williams, DRC, Chris Jackson, St. John, J-Bot, Charly Fusion, DJ Xolotyl, The Comfort, Room:, Deepfrog, Boomerang, Triad, Reggae Lounge: come hang and feel da Irie vibes inside our reggae lounge. Prepare for the awakening!!! A night of bad ass talent, mixing through the most intense beats to date!!! A night of explosive performances, that will push the boundaries of the underground mentality!!! A night that will be out of control, filled with the amazement of an interactive multimedia extravaganza. LUMATECH lighting will be throwing down the fattest lighting show that nobody has ever seen before!! The Royal Rumble: mark wayne,jk sound,xtreme audio We will also be celebrating Funky Beats 4 year anniversary!!! HIEROGLYPHICS,THE PHARCYDE. Live p.a. Sound Of Light. 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Sunday, May 30th - EUROTIKA 3 Biohazard productions-L.A..(GABE &THEE-O), F-8-S.F.(MYSTRE), ANTHONY S(THE TRIBE), D!ZZ!(Fresno). . Modesto Centre Plaza,, Modesto. 209.236.6846 415.221.4142 Friday, June 4th - Rendezvous Thomas Trouble (Trance and Jungle Factory), DJ "D" (Trance and Jungle Factory), Mars (F-8), Mystre (F-8), Phat Pat (UK), and many more.. Please watch this space for detatils and look for the flyers at most parties and events from now until June 4th. Mark your calanders and Rendezvous with us! The phone number for this event will be posted A.S.A.P Keep looking! Friday, June 4th - Bliss DJ's House: , Johnny Fiasco (Chicago), Terry Mullan (CHicago) and Halo (Chicago) on 4 decks, Steve Loria (L.A.) and Tony on 4 decks, Donald Glaude (Seattle), Hippie (Denver), Rick V. and Dizzy on 4 decks, Karizma, Vince, Paul Gordon, Markus, Sugar D., Bryen, ANd IN THE JUNGLE ROOM:, Danny tha WIldchild(Chicago) and Phantom 45(CHicago) on 4 decks, Dara (N.Y.), Flux w/ Jamalski, Presha and Stompa on 4, B-SIde, Ivry, Rif.... Held @ Cal Expo on in buildings A and B....All 3 rooms of sound will be covered by Mark Wayne.. Laser by Hollywood Dog...Visuals by I-Candy and L.S.D., Atmosphere by Funky Baby and A super large Chill Zone by Vega.... Presale Locations: In Tha MIx, Sacramento, 2329 I St. (916)442-0499, Solid Grooves 368 S. Bascom St., San Jose, (408)999-0259 Rock On, Fairfield, 1630 North Texas St. (707)422-2080, Motion Music, Modesto, 403 coffee St. (209)577-6965, Housewares, San Francisco, 1322 Haight st., (415) 252-1440 $25 @ the door and we have Very Limited 20 dollar Pre-sales . 916.554.0885 415.248.2678 408.920.2280 Saturday, June 5th - GoodeTyme Entertainment presents AMNESIA GoodeTyme Entertainment bring to you a Music lovers delight with reowned DJ's as follows: ONIONZ (ELECTRIC SOUL/Imperial Dub/Chocolate Factory- NYC), DORAN (Fragrant Music/RAM), JIM HOPKINS (Twitch/V-Wax/ELECTROLINERS,-SF), TONY (The Gatherings, SF), HAPPY KID MARTY (Happy Kids- SF), DJ TECHNIQUE (CLOCKWORK DJ's/Journeez Music), Homero X-Pinosa (GoodeTyme DJ's), Pistachio + Aonymous(Math Sound Workshop), Tracy (Sister/Daddy's Records), Jesse (the crate). Fully permitted and secure venue with over 40,000 square feet. 2 rooms +1 outside area. $15. pre-sale or $20.00 @ door . Sunday, June 5th - :::::: SISTER :::::: ::: are you down ::: :: HOUSE N TECHNO ::, Tracy ::, Forest Green : Technostate/Cloud Factory :: , Lori : Hoi Polloi :: , :: DRUM N BASS ::: , Melanie : S.F. House Collective :: , Alley Cat : The Dragon Lounge :: , XJS :: , Polywog ::. :: Sound by : Cloud Sound :: :: Techno Beam Lights : Mark of Impact Lighting :: Cross Street: Fulton at Masonic >>> After Party <<< to be announced... with dj's :: Charlotte the Baroness :: Forest Green :: & special guests :: 10pm-2am, 21+. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St.. http://www.xanthoria.com 415.441.1751 415.255.4333 Saturday, June 5th - E.T.A. presents Monument to Eternity A Hard Trance Rising Event Uphonic, Kemical Kidd, Tracer, Dyloot, Depth, DJ D. This is a limited capacity, pre-sale only event. For more information please call our voice mail. 415.364.1803 Saturday, June 5th - The Unity Vibe Tribe presents GENERATION X Dj line up soon to be posted..... For more imformation please call: 408.271.6900 650.361.0950 Friday, June 11st - VORG presents BREATHE A very special party at a once again brand spankin', fresh, new location!!! More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, June 12nd - Silver Pearl Records presents QUEST Summer Solstice Guiding your Quest from dusk 'til dawn on 4 thumping sound systems with DJS: Jeno (Wicked, SF), Doran (Rampant Records and Hook Recordings, LA), Christopher Lawrence (Hook Recordings and Fragrant, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records, SF), Steve Loria (Bang the Drum, LA), Barry Weaver (Funky Techno Tribe, Seattle), Astral Matrix (O.O.B.E. Music, SF), Jason Blakemore (Life Music, Aquarium, aka DJ Trance, LA), Tony (The Gathering, SF), Donald Glaude (Funky Teckno Tribe, Seattle), Caine (Silver Pearl, SF), MODA (Trancefusion Records), Greg Sandler (Harmony, SF), Tom LG (Silver Pearl, SF), Tracy (Sister and Quest, SF), Dieselboy (611 Records, Philadelphia), Rinse & Flux with MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru and Compound Records, SF), R.A.W. (Mictlan Recordings, LA), NMAN (Biofonik and Silver Pearl, SF), J-Bot (Harmonics, Santa Rosa), Incredible Ambient Chamber with:, B))merang and Triad, Many more to be announced.. As always, we will have amazing visuals in each and every room, thumping sound systems by Silver Pearl and JK, lasers in 2 rooms by UV99, environment by Silver Pearl, and incredible floral art by Anthony Ward of PassionFlora NYC. We will have a wonderful clean safe warehouse, plenty of FREE fruit arranged into beautiful edible altars, and lots of free water. Limited pre-sale tickets will be available May 15th at the following Bay Area locations... and remember, the first 500 pre-sale tickets will receive a FREE mix CD courtesy of Silver Pearl Records: Solid Grooves, San Jose (408) 248-6399, Daddy's Records, Berkeley (510) 665-1653, Harmonics, Santa Rosa (707) 571-8747, In the Mix, Sacramento (916) 442-0499, F-8, San Francisco (415) 221-4142, Compound Records, San Francisco (415) 864-8309, Pipeline, Santa Cruz (831) 425-7473, or by mail from Silver Pearl Records by e-mailing contact@silverpearl.com. http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, June 12nd - Skills invites all a smiling to A STARRY NIGHT With very special guests from L.A., Thomas Michael, Thee-O, Demigod, Plus all your favorite local DJ's -, Dyloot, Tom Slik, Mars & Mystre, Radley, Thomas Trouble, DJ D, Uphonic & Kemical Kidd, Tracer & Telene, Happy Kid Marty & Happy Kid Ian.. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Friday, June 18th - OPEN HOUSE presents Strictly Underground w/ your Open House Supastars: Serendipity, Unity, Styven & Scott Bliss, along with Guest Djs:, Evillyn (blessing us with her presence all the way from HAWAII), Joey Mazzola (Influence Recordings), Jason (Unite Prod.), Ryan Christopher, Levi, Secret Squirrel, Pengo, Gilad (5D), DevDawg (Roswell/McDonald Foundation), LadyJane tha' pimptress, Aspect(I.B.S), and more TBA. For presale tickets, call the voicemail # or send an email to: openhousecrew@yahoo.com Much love to all! First come first serve. THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT!!!! And remember always, KEEP IT UNDERGROUND!! Limited capacity, 225 presale tickets only , SF location. SF. 510.288.7676 Friday, June 18th - Counterpoint Productions presents Commence More TBA, Housewaves and Trancefrequencies by BARRY WEAVER (Funky Techno Tribe, LA), THOMAS TROUBLE (Trance and Jungle Factory, SF), TONY (The Gathering, SF), RIG-A-TONY (Sagitariun), TYLER (Counterpoint), DENNIS (THC), DJ SCOTT (Kick Drum), SCI FI, DAVID, DJ GLOW. LASERS by HOLLYWOOD DOG, THUNDERING SOUND by COMMUNITY, FREE FRUIT and CANDY, 2 ROOMS. 9pm-6am, All ages. $12 w/ canned food $15 w/ out. Sacramento. http://counterpoint.sacone.com 916.783.9948 916.866.3266 Saturday, June 19th - FREQUENCY 8 4 year Anniversary Celebration Summer Solstice Campout Weekend Stay Tuned In.. Saturday June 19th- Sunday 20th. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Saturday, June 19th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Special Secret Surprise Summer Solstice Celebration More information to follow. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Sunday, June 20th - Hi Rise productions and Existential Sounds presents Backflip 2 year anniversary - Love and War Garth (Wicked), Jone`ne` (Stompy Hi-Fi), Markie (Wicked), Tasho (Stompy Hi-Fi), Jeno (Wicked), Preston (Stompy Hi-Fi), Moses (Sunshine Daydream), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls), fabuLizz (Uniting Souls), Seven (Hi Rise), Sol (Hi Rise), Michael Tello (Housepitality), Dave Chapman (Legion of Funk), Peterbilt (Hi Rise), Jason Henry (Legion of Funk), Push (Future Breaks), Miss E (Eklectik), PBS crew (Arc Angel Gabe Real, NoBattles, and Mateo), Jin (HiRise), Le'Le' (Legion of Funk). Tickets will go on sale Saturday, April 24 at local record stores: Tweekin Records, Housewares, Clear Records, Big Daddy's (Berkeley), and Primal Records (Berkeley). With food and festivities both indoors and by the pool. 12 pm-2am, . $10 in advance and $15 at the door. . Thursday, June 24th - XTORT Productions presents AMOEBA Featuring Special Guest DJ:, SIMON APEX (SSU), Sascha23 (Xtort), dB (Xtort), Glow (Xtort), Dj Chad (Xtort/Alpha Zone). DIRECTIONS: Take I-80 east toward Reno, exit right on Madison, left of Auburn, right on Garfield. Turn left into first parking lot; building in back. Come early to beat the rush and walk away with FREE stuff to the first 50 people from various record labels. 9pm-All ages. TICKETS: $8 at the door all night (come early to guarantee entry:). . Sacramento. http://home.earthlink.net/~sascha23 916.334.6200 Saturday, June 26th - The müvmental Collective presents Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Juan Atkins, DRC, Jeff Samuel, DJ Chaordic, DJ Dishboy, Sleepy C, Rinse & Flux w/ MC Jamalski, DJ Ghost, Smallz & 7UP. SF. 415.789.7366 Saturday, June 26th - Harmony More information TBA. Friday, July 2nd - T r a n q u i l i t y presents WELCOME TO TRANQUILITY An out door underground event pushing the power of trance. Alias (Tranquility, Question Mark Productions), Mystre (F-8), Uphonic (E.T.A.), Telene, Merlyn (V.O.R.G.). 200 limited $10 pre-sales ONLY. 415.435.7567 Sunday, July 3rd - July 4th - 8TH ANNUAL FREEDOM FESTIVAL Line-up T.B.A.. Flyers out soon. 415.905.8888 Friday, July 9th - children of the sun presents Sunshine Of Your Love a summertime celebration of love, life, and happiness... 415.835.3144 Saturday, July 10th - Forever Young Robbie Long vs. Devestate (Next Generation, UK) Happy Hardcore FIRST U.S APPEARANCE!!, SIMON APEX (Alpha Magic, UK) vs. DJ NIMH (Happy 4 Beats, Phoenix AZ), ANDY vs. B2B JOSH (Sac.), APOLLO SMILE (Forever Young, Sac.), DJ HERETIC (119 Crew, LA) vs. RIFF (Sac.) Jump up Jungle, DEMIGOD (Industrial Strength, LA) DUTCH (Happy Gabber), RON D. CORE (Freeclouds Mixinglab, LA) Terrorcore, IMIX (Navigator, Sac.) Live P.A Speed Garage, MOE (Sac.), RICKY RICARDO (Loolipop, Chico), JASON-WHO (Fuzze, Sac.), BLAKE (N.B.C), TANK (Sac.). All night, free fruit, free water, and free stuff for early birds. Please come with your open minds, smiles, and get ready to dance! *limited Presale at Subsonic Underground Record Store, Sac. 9pm-8am, $15. Sacramento. 916.603.2866 Saturday, July 10th - 6 in da mornin productions presents Ground Zero 4: Judgement Night - The Final Chapter (6AM 3 Year Anniversary) TBA. World Class dj lineup and live acts to be unveiled on Saturday, April 3rd 1999. Promoters and vendors please contact 6AM on the industry line (800) 683-4569. Except no imitations. 415.995.1940 Saturday, July 17th - INNER EYE presents oOo AREA 51 oOo ((((((CONTACT)))))) TBA. We are organizing this event to be the most epic event of the summer... Top secret information will be released on May 1st, until then all info is CLASSIFIED... Stay tuned in... Saturday, July 17th - TRANCE AND JUNGLE FACTORY presents Man in the Moon Reunited Thomas Trouble, Dj D, Eric Spire, Mars, Mystre, Dyloot, Tom Slik. Please check back soon for a huge line-up. Capacity is limited 2000 people, so please purchase your pre-sale tickets early. 415.248.2669 Friday, July 23rd - Megahertz presents 80MHz Dyloot, Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/80MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, July 24th - @spire 2 years in the making... TBA. We're back... Tell a friend! More information coming soon! 415.273.5513 Saturday, July 31st - space children's juggernautfestival Cesar, Twerk, Gerg Sandler, Mars, MystrE, Noel, UFO, Dutch, Cosmic Selector X Buna, Plus Many Many More To Be Announced. Live: Miah (Live pa). 415.272.1622 Saturday, July 31st - Mytical Mayhem Productions presents Serenity Doran (Rampant Records, Hook Recordings, LA), Eric Spire (Silver Pearl Records & Quest, SF), Greg Sandler (Harmony & Harmonics, SF), Moshe (SF), MC Jamalski (B.A.S.S. Kru, SF), Gianni (Release, SF), Kevin Kind & Kwashi (FGE, SF), and many more to be announced.. Stay tuned for more information.... For information please call 415.789.7344 408.882.5090 Saturday, July 31st - Full Circle Reunion - TechNique James Christian (NYC), Vicious Vic (NYC), Tony, Garth, Simon, DJ Matthew, with more T.B.A.. More info on the way! Sunday, August 1st - Existential Sounds presents... presents Birth...a celebration of Life. Garth (Wicked), Markie (Wicked), John Howard (Heavy Rotation), Chang (Simons, Gainesville, FL), Three (Hallucinations Records, Tampa, FL), Brian Busto (The Rubb, Tampa, FL), and more TBA. . An indoor/outdoor event featuring an art show. (between Potrero and Utah) Art show from 3PM-8PM. Music from 2PM-2AM. Tickets available May 31, 1999. Buses to the location: 33 Stanyan 22 Fillmore 9 San Bruno. email: avatarz@earthlink.net avatarz@earthlink.net or salivatethurs@hotmail.com Tickets available at Tweekin' Records, Housewares, Big Daddys (Berkley), and Primal Records (Berkley). Free before 4 pm, $8 in advance, $15 at the door. . IL Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415-626-2626. Friday, August 6th - Purity of Essence Mars, Mystre, Uphonic, Dutch, Dyloot, Tracer, more to come. Saturday, August 7th - Space Children presents The Juggernaut Festival - 4 Year Anniversary TBA. more info to follow.... 415.273.1622 Saturday, August 7th - Native Vision Productions presents The Prophesee DJ LINE UP & MORE INFO TO FOLLOW IN JUNE . We Invite you to celebrate the remembrance of the Prophecy that made the world what it is today. The Prophecy goes like this: In the beginning we sat in a circle to share and remand as one with each other and Mother Earth, then the creator came down and split us up in to the red, white, yellow, and black we were all to accomplish a certain number of things then come back into the circle and share. We need to remember the root of it all. So we the people for the Earth can live. http://www.globalparty.com/nvp/ 415.281.0777 Sunday, August 8th - 3horsemen Productions presents DAISY Thomas Trouble, D.J. D, Simon, Greg Sandler, Elias Smith, J-BOT.. A party with real heart. It's Daisy's birthday and she wants to see all those happy party friends of hers there. Join us in S.F. because the weekend is not over till it's over. With free snacks at 5PM and a hunken big cake at 6PM. We are all one big family kids so join us in celebrating Daisy's birthday and if your birthday is this weekend you get in free. Party is limited to 650 pre-sale tickets. At the door admittance as space becomes available. Get your $15 pre-sales at: Harmonics(Santa Rosa), Frequency 8(San Francisco),T&J Factory(Berkeley)"HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAISY" 4pm-4am, . http://www.3horsemen.com 415.721.3929 Friday, August 13rd - August 15th - Camp Harmony TBA. All weekend camping celebration!!! More information TBA. Saturday, August 14th - CLOCKWORK EVENTZ presents STARZ TBA.. Live: Long Beach Dub All-Stars.. CLOCKWORK EVENTZ invites you to come dance under the... STARZ Superstar talent to be announced!!! This will be held at a wonderful outdoor location. Much more info in the future....... 408.747.7742 415.721.4713 510.733.1140 916.565.6560 Saturday, August 21st - FREQUENCY 8 Cybertrance Communication Stay Tuned In.. http://www.frequency-8.com 415.541.5019 415.541.5863 Friday, August 27th - August 28th - VORG presents A SPECIAL 2-DAY LAKESIDE CAMPOUT with amazing European live-performers. More TBA. 415.750.3100 Saturday, August 28th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents TICKLE 4 Extravaganza!!! Watch out for an amazing line-up!. More info t.b.a. 415.248-2669 Saturday, August 28th - (((THUMP))) Radio and Area 51 presents TBA Hallucinogen (twisted records), Tristan (twisted records), plus many more to be announced.. Check back soon for more info. Saturday, September 4th - Feel Good Entertainment presents Megga-Buzz 4-U The 4th Annual Labor Day 3-Day Holiday Weekend PLURity Vibe-Fest! The Premier of local DJ Showcase. Buzz Line Birthday party celebration event. Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com Friday, September 10th - (((THUMP))) Radio presents X-Dream!!! (blue room records) TBA. Check back soon for more info. Saturday, September 11st - EarCandy Two - Our One Year Celebration TBA, Mars, Mystre, Dutch, Uphonic, Tracer, Micron, Dyloot, Happy Kid Ian, , and more TBA :). 415.281.8384 Saturday, September 11st - E.T.A. presents The Red Shift Info T.B.A.. Friday, September 17th - Megahertz presents 100MHz Aspect, Radley Marx, Elias Smith, Dyloot, Special Guests.. more TBA http://www.mhz.nu/100MHz 415.395.8448 Saturday, September 18th - ASR 2 Year Anniversary Three room's of superb DJ's TBA..... This event will be in celebration of ASR's two year anniversary, therefore ASR will go back to it's roots, the Monterey Bay. Saturday, September 18th - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, September 25th - Harmony Sixth Year Anniversary Celebration!!! TBA. More Information TBA Saturday, October 9th - Skills trance room:, Dyloot & Tom Slik, Radley Marx, Mars & Mystre, Thomas Trouble, Happy Kids Ian & Marty, hardcore/happyhardcore room: From L.A.- , Ron D. Core, Demigod, Paulina Taylor, Plus locals - , Aspect, Simon Apex, Uphonic. 415.437.4460 510.869.4601 Saturday, October 16th - The Trance and Jungle Factory presents *****TICKLE 5!!!***** TBA. watching this space... 415.248-2669 Saturday, November 6th - Harmony TBA. More information TBA. Saturday, November 13rd - Silver Pearl Records presents Quest 2 Year Anniversary TBA . Stay tuned for details... http://www.silverpearl.com 415.273.5912 510.287.5620 408.278.5286 Saturday, November 27th - Feel Good Entertainment presents The Spirit of Giving The 3rd Annual Thanksgiving 4-day Holiday Weekend Plurity Vibe-fest Keep it Real Good with Feel Good. http://www.globalparty.com W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/jungle/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Thursday GUANG! - Jimmy Chu, Cobie, Guest DJ appearances.. Dress code strictly enforced: No jeans, no tennis shoes, no sports attire. 21+. $8 at the door, $6 w/flyer or this email, Ladies in free b4 11:00. Club ERA, 525 Howard St., SF. 510.917.3030 the insight series - insight shows are about live electronic music that pushes the boundaries of the way we think about music w/DJs sean copper, eric hill. (*) EVERY THIRD THURSDAY of the month performances will start sometime shortly after 10pm. 9pm-, 21+. 111 minna st, SF. http://www.syncopated.net/emanate [5.20 - :\> o.s.t. - emanate / worm interface :/> kit clayton - cytrax] the Vanity party - BB Hayes (Resident) , guest djs:, Pete Avila, David Harness, ST John, Scott DC. Just off of highway 280. On the corner of Lawrence and Homestead. 9pm-2am, 21+. The BackBeat, 777 Lawrence Expressway, Santa Clara. 408.241.0177 Pitch - The underside of SF's techno/house music scene. Agressive, live musicians and dj's. w/DJs Crunch, YT, Dutch , Residents, Corey Black, Y.T., w/ special guests:, TUESday nites in March:, Freaky Chakra, Margorie & Stuart, DRC, big Nate, THURsday nites in April:, Cristina, Dutch, Ryme, Single Cell Orch., djCrunch.. ....Duck and weave.... Donation. CLUB SACRIFICE, 19th Street & South Van Ness, SF. Velvet Shop - house, jungle, hip hop, downtempo w/DJs M3, Mark Johns, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Waves, SJ. 408.235.1556 408.235.1556 Kit Kat - house. 10pm-4am, 21+, $10. the End Up, 6th & Harrison, SF. The Cafe - house w/DJ Mathew Baker. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF. 415.861.3846 Passenger - excursions to global beats and rhythms 10p-2a, 21+, Free. the Skylark Lounge, 3089 16th St. @ Valencia, SF. Club Faith - Hip-Hop, House, Progressive. w/DJs Blackstone (Resident), Jay-R, Ruben Mancias (Resident), Weekly Guests. Boys/Girls, mostly bi/gay. If you have a closed mind this club will leave you behind! 9:30pm-3am, 18+, $7. Free with Flyer.. City Nights, 715 Harrison St., SF. Hi-Rise - The weekly thursday night house thing. w/DJs Seven (Resident), Sol (Resident), Peterbilt (Resident), Jin (Resident), Weekly Guests. Visuals by Visual Attack.Overloading your senses with deep underground house vibes at the coolest restaurant/bar in S.F. Free before 10pm. Dinners served until 10pm. Resurrecting the deep funk we call House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy, SF. [4.22 - Garth (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] [4.29 - Taj (Waller St. Boys)] [5.6 - Jeno (Wicked, Greyhound Recordings)] Atmospheric Drum & Bass - Peregrine. 8pm-11pm, . Brain Wash Cafe, 1122 Folsom St, SF. Manifesto - soul, hip hop, dub, jungle & electro with w/DJs monkey, marlo, & weekly guests.. Come on out and eat a late dinner and stick around with us for drinks and more. 9:30pm-to close, Free. ChaChaCha's located at The Original McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @19th Street, SOMA. Eklektic - jungle, drum n bass w/DJ Sage (jungle/drum 'n' bass Resident). Live: Weekly guests from the Bay area + the World. 9pm-2am, 21+, $12. 78 Minna, SF. 415.332.5800 x787 Double Trouble - Romanowski , Special Guests. Live funk and hip hop. Abstract Jazz. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton St, SF. Silky...smoothe and sublime - Come listen to how the ladys lay down the funky beats w/DJs Tracy (Sister), FabuLizz (Progress), Girl Friday (Uniting Souls). Silky, the all female cast of the SF underground, will be held at Il Pirata on the third Thursday of every month. (between Potrero and Utah) Buses to party: 33 Stanyan 9 San Bruno. Email Art and decorations by: Bahar meets Angela. 9pm-2am, $3. Il Pirata, 2007 16th St, SF. 415.626.2626 The Circus - Hip-hop, Disco, Club Classics, House w/DJs Paolo Vincenti (Resident), Romero X Pinoza (Resident), Special Guests Weekly. Thursday night -this thursday, January 28th, is THE grand opening. 9:30pm-, 18+. $5 with a college ID. La Vals, 2516 Durant Ave, Berkeley. 510.595.5597 Every Thursday at the Top - Deep House spun by: w/DJs Laron, John Pickett, Dani, Robbie Hardkiss. Steven Tune and the original dues rock "we got the beats" beats for all kinds for the premillinnial mind. $3. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. FriscoGlide - Every Thursday at the Top w/DJs John Pickett, Laron, Rotating guests as well. House Music The Top (Lower Haight), SF. Definition - Quality house music by the world's leading djs - house, techno w/DJs Markus (Resident / Kickdrum), JP (Resident / Kickdrum), Kamahele (Undertow Records). Inside Sacramento's Newest Club 'The Garage'. $5. Club 1831, 1831 19th Street, Sacramento. 916.484.4614 [4.22 - Tony ( Gathering, SF )] Techno Thursdays - house, techno w/DJs Dj Matt in the Hatt, Weekly Guests. Spinning house and techno every Thursday @ the Q Cafe. 9pm-. Q Cafe, 529 Alma, Palo Alto. 650.322.3311 Friday The Bassment - Bringing in Top SF and International Drum & Bass Talent every week.... w/DJ TBA.. 11pm-3am, $10. Get a Bassment Flyer, bring it and avoid the lines(via vip line) & get a $2 discount before 12am. In the Bassment of 1015 Folsom, 1015 Folsom, SF. [4.23 - Footloose (Juice & Splash Recs. UK), Flux (Compound Records/BASS Kru)] [4.30 - Double A & Twist (Dune Recordings, CAN), KAOS (Compound Records/Synthetics)] EARTH - Ellen Ferrato, Mouse, KJ, Damon, Jeff. Every First Friday of the month EARTH bus $1. $15. $8 before 11, Free with non-U.S. passport. . 550 Barneveld. 415.705.0585. LIFE - Life SUCKS, and then theres Friday! w/DJ Mark Farina. Cross streeet: 4th. VIP Lounge and Oyster Bar. 10pm-, 21+, $10. Big Heart City, 836 Mission. Empire - DJ Party Ben. Empire, SF's own big-beat boutique At the corner of Third. Dj Party Ben, best known for his party reports on subsonic, will spin the sounds of Fatboy Slim, Chemical Brothers, Roni Size Reprazent, Prodigy and more. empire will also occasionally feature guest appearances from world renowned DJs. 9pm-2am., . Manhattan Lounge, 699 Market Street, SF. Dance Spirit - Leslie Shill. every first and third Friday evenings in april. $10. Nautilus Health Club, 4th street, San Rafael. Nikita - house, techno w/DJs Simon (Resident), Jeno (Resident), Jerry Bonham (Resident), Kayar (Resident for the drum & bassment), Kaos (Resident for the drum & bassment), Flux (Resident for the drum & bassment), Rinse (Resident for the drum & bassment). Broadcast live on the net at www.1015.com. Downstairs, Sticks and Stones- provacateurs of Bass present Drum + Bass with Resident Dj Kayar 10pm-6am, 21+, $10. Free before 10:30 PM. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.com 415.267.0568 [4.23 - John Digweed (England), Footloose (England)] [4.30 - DJ Tomcraft (Germany)] [5.7 - Terry Mullan (Chicago)] [5.14 - Charles Feelgood (Baltimore), DB (NY)] [6.11 - legendary club from England RENAISSANCE - Dave Seamen (England), Anthony Pappa (england)] [6.18 - Paul van Dyk (Germany)] [6.25 - DJ Wada (Japan)] [7.16 - Andrew Weatherhal (England)] [7.23 - Scott Henry (Baltimore)] [7.30 - Derrick Carter (Chicago), Stacey Pullen (Detroit)] RoaM - an evening of sophisticated deep house... w/DJs Chad Mitchell, JP Soul, Dan Smith. 21+, Free. Liquid, 2925 16th St, SF. 415.289.6833 Stir-Fri-Day - happy-hour eclectic grooves served up by resident beat chefs w/DJs Jason Fluid, Shaolin, Maneesh the Twister, Plus weekly guests. 5pm-9pm, 21+. Minna St Gallery, 111 Minna St, SF. 0 415.974.1719 Bohemian Lounge - Intergalactic Funk Collages w/DJs Toph2000, rotating guests Pollywog, Manny Rosa, Charlotte the Baroness, Consuelo (Kevin). 9ish-2am, 21+, Free. the gorgeously restored McCarthy's Bar, 2327 Mission @ 19th, SF. 415.332.5800x211 (redwine) Melon - house w/DJs Dano, JZ, guests. First Friday of each month in the blue Room @ Nikita. 11pm-5am, 21+. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.redmelon.com 415.561.9215 Angel - house, tribal house, funk, modern rock, trance, progressive house, deep house, house, trip hob, soul, beats w/DJs Harry Who?, Rick Preston, Guests djs. 6 Artistic Rooms featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Soul Classics, beats Modern Rock, Trance, Progressive House, deep House and House. 9pm-2am, 21+, $10. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0328 The Davis Family Happy Hour - Local Dj Superstars, The Davis-get-down-funky-like-that-crew. Your favorite brews on tap. 3pm-7pm, 18+, Free. UCD Silo Pub, Hutchinson Drive, Davis. http://www.geocities.com/Hotsprings/Falls/2500 Launch - It'll give sump'din foer da yung;unz to doc. w/DJs Resident Djs:, BombRocker (Pure Tryb, WC), Phil-e-Cheez (Walnut Creek), Weekly guests. 18 & under (if you can pass for under 18). House, Trance, Breaks, Jungle. 7:30pm-11:00pm, 18+, Free. Walnut Creek Civic Center, Civic Park, Walnut Creek. Saturday Tek-No-Bas - techno, jungle w/DJs Stealth, Danger. Expect to hear jungle, drum and base, and techno both Detroit and European. 9pm-2am, 21+. $5 cover from 10-2. Club 1028, 1028 Geary St., SF. Pablos Sugar Shack - Pablo's Resident DJs:, John Howard, Norman Stradley, Jellybear, Miguel Migs, Rasoul, Romanowski. Big Heart City, 836 Mission Street, SF. http://www.pablos.com [4.10 - Ellen Ferrato, Miss Megan] [4.24 - Alain de Corazon, Mauricio] [5.1 - -JZ (Red Melon Records-] Other Whirled - House, Techno w/DJs Nobel, Vince, Christine, Daniel, Henrik, guests. saturday morning 5:30am-3pm, 21+. the EndUp, 6th Street @ Harrison, SF. 415.208.7665 Release - House, techno, jungle, funk, trip hop, disco w/DJs Doc Martin (1st Saturday each month), Marques Wyatt (2nd Saturday), Deep Dish (3rd Saturday), Terence Toy, Julius Papp, Behrouz, Tom Thump, Ellen Ferrato, Norm, Thomas Roberts, BB Hayes, Jason Edwards, Anthony Scott, Jerry Ross, Eric Lacy, Atom, DJ D, Gianni, special guests, Martin, Bruce, DeMilo. 10pm-9am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom, SF. http://www.sfstation.com/clubs/release.htm 415.281.0823 [5.1 - Garth in the main room] [5.8 - Marques Wyatt and Ricky Morrison] [5.15 - Deep Dish] [5.29 - Farley & Heller begin their Mixer Magazine Tour] [6.12 - Marques Wyatt and Erick Morrillo] [6.19 - Deep Dish] [6.26 - CJ McIntosh] La Belle Epoque - 21st Century Drum n' Space w/DJs Mike Bee, Wish FM, Sea, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. Carry On - Underground house and garage music. w/DJ Mauricio Aviles. Cross Street: Howard. 10:30pm-4am, 21+, $8. Club Asia, 201 9th St., SF. Club Universe - Funk, House, High energy dance. w/DJ Special Guests and artists every week. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. free b4 11pm. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.289.6650 FreeStyle - House and Funk w/DJs Christopher (Resident), Weekly Guests. Hosted by Mizz Ana Maronic. 21+, $5. free before 11pm. 399 9th St., SF. PUSH - house w/DJs your pushers, mouse, travis, chris orr. Matt valenz creates sonic sculpture for the dancefloor through the mediums of hi-tech deep house and technofunk. A popular underground affair attended by the city's most adventurous party people... this AIN'T the sound factory. Between Market and Mission. 9pm-2am, 21+, $7. Jessy Alley, SF. Plush - house, techno, trance, funk, trip hop, soul, beats, 70's w/DJs Resident Djs:, Thayton, Johnny, Julius Papp, Gianni (San Francisco), Scott DC (San Francisco), BBHayes, Guest from the bay area and around the world. Visuals by Jose G. Museo Contempo.Martini Bar on the Patio. Featuring the best Gin and Vodkas. Open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. No cover before 9:30pm. 4 Dance Areas featuring Funk, Trip Hop, R&B, Sould Classics, beats, 70's House, Trance Progressive House and Deep House. 21+, $10. Free before 9:30pm. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. http://www.clubecco.com/days.htm 408.947.1667 408.793.0238 Tricorder - downtempo, hiphop, electro, breakbeat w/ w/DJs marlo, monkey, flint, special guests.. Teetotling our way through the classics you've never heard it before. Every 1st and 3rd Saturday Located on 24th between Mission and Valencia. 9pm-2am, 21+, $1. 1, 3336 24th Street, SF. http://www.shooby.com/tricorder Wicked Session One - drumnbass, ambient, hiphop w/DJs Sep (turntables), Stephen Kent (digeridoo), Peter Valsamis (percussion), Echo. "Wicked Session One" is the first in a series of upcoming nights in 1999 featuring acoustic and electronic musicians and DJS exploring the connection betwen dub, drum& bass, hip hop and ambient music. $6. Elbo Room, 647 Valencia, SF. Flikker - house w/DJs Rotating residents, Jus' Joel, dj d-paul, lee., Plus special guests.. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. free before 10pm. Sacrifice, 800 South Van Ness @ 19th, SF. [4.24 - e.b.e. - arturo (amigo) - dave chapman (gravity point)] Sunday Spundae - House, Techno w/DJs Carlos, David Michael, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For 02.14.99 - 6 Year Anniversary Party! 5 elements giving you 11 decor by Ashley. 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom St, SF. http://www.spundae.net 415.974.9389 [4.25 - 3 PO (NY)] [5.2 - DJ Stryke, Craig Eversol (Den)] [5.9 - John Kelly (La)] [5.23 - DJ Dan] [5.30 - Memorial Day Weekend Special Line up coming. Stay tuned.] Leopard Lounge - Acid Jazz, Funk, Soul, Pop & Live Bands. w/DJs Jerry Ross, guests. The Hi-Fi, 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 Pleasuredome - Funk, House w/DJs Neil Lewis, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Dub Mission - SF's only dub night. The best in dubs and roots every Sunday. w/DJs I, Maneesh the Twister, Vinnie, Sep (kusf/kpfa), J.Boogie ("Beatsauce"), Ludichris, other suprises. Contact 647 Valencia @ 17th, mission. http://www.geocities.com/~dub_mission/ 415.552.7788 [4.25 - DJs J.BOOGIE and LUDICHRIS] [5.2 - MANEESH the TWISTER VS. WASTEMASTER Soundclash] The Cafe - house w/DJs Mathew Baker, Jay-R. 8pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Cafe, 2367 Market Street, SF . 415.861.3846 Liquid Sundays - Beetroot, quest djs. 21+. Liquid, 2925-16th St @ S.Van Ness, SF. Cosmic Hands - drum n bass, techno, house w/DJs chris jackson, nada, leath, tomas, jaz, hak, toby, paul leath. . This is a free party which happens on the first sunday of every month. Begins 2.07.99 9pm-2am, Free. Waves, 65 Post St, SJ. Monday Movin on Up - It's a vibratory thang w/DJs marc anthony, kevin, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. Noc Noc - Drum'n'bass, downtempo and electronica w/DJ Mohsen. every other Monday. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. 557 Haight St, SF. 415.861.5811 Density - 98% Concentrated Urban Beats saturated with Drum & Bass Deconstructions w/DJs Al Simmons, Noel, J Boogie, Aural B (Sharpshooter), guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. the Justice League, 628 Divisadero, SF. 415.440.0409 Monday Mood Lounge - Happy Hour Downtempo to Drum and Bass w/DJs Triadessa, guests. 4pm-, 21+, Free. 406 Clement St, SF. HouseBlends - a special brew of house w/DJs a special brew of house w/DJs, Mes, Bloom, Tune, Neil, Abdul, Conrad, Friends (Weekly Rotation). Free before 10pm. Spend Happy Hour with HouseBlends (7pm-10pm). 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lounge/6072/ 925.988.7447 415.273.1308 Tuesday PHUNCKTION - Drum & Bass in motion w/DJs Residents: , Noel, JUJU, plus special guest TBA. Every tues. begining April 5th, 1999 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. THE TOP, 424 Haight St, SF. http://www.sfdb.com/ 415.789.8000 x1147 Pleasure - Residents, B.B. Hayes, Mark Silva, Matt Mau, plus weekly guest djs.. Real house music for real house heads...come into San Jose and get that SF feel. 9:30pm-2am, 21+. Free before 10:30...5 bills after.. Agenda Lounge, 399 South First Street, San Jose. Pure - house w/DJs Brian Brandon, guests. 9pm-, 18+. The Rage, 1890 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.929.0232 Static - Techno, Drum & Bass, Downtempo, Electro, Experimental.... w/DJs Dj Sifu (Resident), Joe Rice (Justice League Sound System), Tomas (Umoja), J-Bird (Sunset/Pacific), Bre Ad, Sutekh, Re Ach, Quantum 23, Tomas, Sifu, J-Bird, Safety, Scissors, Sean Murray, guests. Static offers musical alternatives to listeners and dancers who are tired of ravers, New Age missionaries and club culture, in general. Admission is $5 (21 and over, please). Come check out the two, newly fattened sound systems. 10pm-2am, $5. The Cat's Club, 1190 Folsom St, SF. http://www.belief-systems.com/static 510-496.3444 Spark - drum'n'bass, downtempo, jazzstep w/DJs Seven, Sol, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Backflip, 601 Eddy St @ Larkin, SF. 415.771.3547 [4.27 - Push] [5.4 - Tom Thump (Groove Merchant, Twice as Nice)] [5.11 - Siren (Bassment, XLR8R), Ava (Housewares)] Spin Cycle - music of all types w/DJ guests weekly. 7:30p-midnight, All ages. CSUMB's Black Box Cabaret. http://www.cloudfactory.org/upcoming.html 831.457.7726 [4.27 - Hoss and Tim Gotch (CF)] Tuesday nights at the Agenda - guest djs. upstairs at the agenda 21+. $5.00 after 10:30. 399 south first street, San Jose. Jive Samba - Josh Jones, Latin Jazz All Stars (Live), Chris (Electronic flavor with drum and bass), jazzy jungle. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. 21+, $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. Core - drum & bass and beyond... w/DJs jefsta, cera, weekly guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Liquid, 2925 16th Street @ S. Van Ness, SF. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~mkello01/core.html 415.790.4974 Wednesday SYNESTHESIA - Resident Djs, DUTCH, JEFF TAISCH. . - All welcome - 300 capacity - @ 19th St. One block from the 19th/Broadway BART station. 9pm-2am, All ages. $8/door-$5 w/can of food for The Floral Depot Project.. 1921 Telegraph Av., Oakland. 510.595.5555 415.339.8082 [4.28 - DRC, KJ, ICON] [5.1 - May line-up T.B.A.] BassTrap - house, elctro, jungle, breaks - anya, cloud, swoops, thebasstrapallstars. Third wednesday of every month. Get the digs at BassTrap. 9pm-2am, 21+. http://www.3d-dynamic.com/basstrap/basstrap.html 707.524.9804 PURIFIDE - on the first wednesday of every month - tech house tekno progressive trance w/DJs resident djs:, J-Bot, Gianni, M.A.C., Cloud. 9pm-2am, 21+. Anthony's, 53 Montgomery Drive, Santa Rosa. http://www.greenfieldgraphix.com/purifide.html 707.571.8747 @mosphere - Josh (The Gathering, Conscious Session), Fabulizz (Progress, Silky, Conscious Session), Seven (Spark, Hi-Rise), Jason Greer (Spark), Andre. Cross Street:Fillmore. We mix up downtempo, drum-n-bass and house. Finally, good music in the Marina! Yuppies and scenesters unite! 21+, $3. Hi-Fi Lounge, 2125 Lombard. Sol (Spark) [4.30 -] [4.30 -] [4.30 -] DEEP INSIDE - A deep house excursion w/ residents DJs w/DJs Taj, Josh (the Gathering), w/ weekly special guests taking it even deeper.. Every Wednesday except the 1st Wednesday of the month. This party starts 04.14.99. 10pm-4:30am, 21+, $5. Deep Inside The Bassment of 1015 Folsom , 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.281.0544 [4.28 - Rob Doten] Return of the B-Sides - Resident D.J. Solomon, guest, Solomon. Hiphop, Funk, Soul, and Dance Hall every wednesday, spinning on three turntables. Weekly drinks specials. 21+. Shattuck Bar and Grill, 2086 Allston @ shattuck, Berkeley. 510.845.7300 [4.28 - Algebra] Come Unity - House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth, and Cosmic Jason (every other month). first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $8. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 Audio Alchemy - jazz, hip hop, drum & bass, latin, futuristic beats w/DJs Groove Merchant DJs, Tom Thump, Cool Chris. 7pm-, 21+. Liquid, 2925 16th St @ So.Van Ness, SF. qoöl - a pan-techno lounge w/DJs Spesh, Gil, Hyper D, top notch guests. Visuals by Hyperdelic.qoöl is now in it's 3rd year of celebrating dj culture at happy hour. each wednesday we gather to hear no less than 4 djs pump nothing but the qoöl est techno. in 1999, we hope to bring you more of the same awesome vibe, more superskilled spinners, more visual artistry, and more great tasting beer! lastly, qoöl will remain free in 1999 - w/ qoöl card 5pm-9pm, Free. 111 Minna St, SF. http://www.looq.com/qool Audible Colors - house, jungle, techno w/DJ guests weekly. 21+, $3. the Top, 424 Haight St, SF. 415.522.2343 Seance - Its a spiritual thang w/DJs local guests weekly, DJs Martel, Nabiel, Franky. Tarot readers, belly dancers, henna tattoo artists and authentic egyptian tapestries. Séance is an ethereal alternative with belly dancers, Tarot Card Readers and Henna tattoo artists. For dinner reservations call 771-3547. 9pm-2am, 21+, $5. Backflip, 601 Eddy @ Polk, SF. http://sfstation.com/clubs/seance.htm 415.281.0823 Wednesdays at Club Ecco - house, techno, trance w/DJs Danny (Resident), Ellen Ferrato, David Harness, Blackstone, Pete Avila. Wednesday is a fantastic gay club night at Club Ecco. All the great house hits hits in the San Pedro Room. Door s open for Happy Hour @ 5pm. 5pm-, 21+, $5. No cover before 9:30. Club Ecco, 87 North San Pedro, San Jose. 408.947.1667 Dubphonik - Mr. Brown. Come inside, cuddle up to a fire, a strong drink and a hapless passerby. Drink and dancing until two a.m. $5. Storyville, 1751 Fulton, SF. _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Harmony Party Line - 408-486-9591 * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * the Buzz-line, a global party network - 650.569.3300 * Clubline - 415.339.8686 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * The Groove Line - 415.331.1500 ext.4788 * Mixology-Music (north bay) - 707.526.1230 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 * V.O.R.G. info - 415.750.3100 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV/Net Shows * Sunday-Sunday, 24 hours, 7 days a week, "Technostate" spins live with the dopest underground bay area dj's and work very hard at it! For more info see Technostate Website * Sunday 12noon - until we drop. "House Before The World". Live netcasts every Sunday at boyandhisdog.simplenet.com We broadcast deep house and garage for all who live and love it. :) Our resident Djs are bvdub and vincent kwok from San Francisco, and we feature guests as well. Our guest this week is DjSciFi from San Diego. * Sunday, 2pm "(((THUMP)))" Radio presents Music for the New Millenium on 90.3fm KUSF. Global and local DJs/musicians playing trance, techno, DnB, house, and everything in between! Set-lists and interviews on www.thump-radio.com * Sunday Night at 8pm - "Threshold" on Raveworld.net, A audio show featuring world class drum 'n' bass and Jungle Djs. * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Sunday night midnight-1am - "Shortwave" - Electronic music in all of its guises. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Sunday night 10pm-2am - "Jazzadelica" w/ Rocky Rococo. Exploring the groove: from jazz, funk and soul to world beat and all types of underground clubs. KFJC 89.7 (Los Altos Hills) * Monday - Friday 10pm - 2am ''World House Groove'' on www.nwez.net -- a LIVE show dedicated to these sounds of the underground..... Dj Kjel is your host and dj for the show incorporating the music styles of house, acid jazz, trance, trip hop, drum & bass, ambient, and the collages of variations in between....... also, guest djs drop by to tunes and there's a live chatroom to talk w/ the djs themselves ........... Listen & watch World House Groove. * Monday night 9:30pm-midnight - "The Autobahn" w/dj Sutekh. Man and machine made music. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Monday 12 til 4 - "Three*Sixty Radio". Beta Lounge. * Mondays at 11:00 PM PST - "Krom" on Raveworld.net Featuring World Class Djs like Dj Sneak and Doc Martin * Every Other Mon Nite, 10pm-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis http://drxeno.cjb.net * Every Tuesday from 1 to 3pm - Trance, techno, breaks and jungle with "the underground with the secret asian man" - available on real audio @ ksfs.sfsu.edu Call ins, requests, and chances to win free gifts and passes to shows are always available, just stay tuned.... need more info? please email me at leopimp44@aol.com * Tuesday night 9pm-11:00pm - "Conscious Groove" - ambientdowntempojunglehousetrancedrumnbasstriphop spun by weekly guest DJs. Hosted by Stephanie aka Miss fat slice. Free Radio Berkeley on the internet - www.freeradio.org * Tuesday night 9pm-mid Pacific - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. The best in beats to satiate your inner child. Electronic dance, noise, spoken word, world music and more. Also available in RealAudio @ Epiphany of Sound Real Audio Also available: Humour List Archive Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University. KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) * Wednesday 3am-6am - "Nothing Short of Total War" w/Fathertime. Electronic musik of all kinds, interspersed with spoken word poetry and other various readings. KSCU 101.3 (Santa Clara/San Jose) * radio M.U.T.A.N.T. - live experimental techno and dj's playing all styles of underground music. spaz * Wednesday night 9pm-11pm - free form music mix. KPFA 94.1 (Berkeley) * Wednesday night - "the Power of Sound" with Leslie. A 3 hour excursion into the best music from the regions where minds meet between the heavans and the earth. KAZU 90.3 (Monterey Bay Community Radio) * Thursday Mornings 12:30am - 3:00am (Wednesday nights) "The Metallic Blurp" - strictly drum and bass with nman and guests on KZSC, Santa Cruz 88.1FM * Thursday morning 5am-7am - A postmodern Garrison Keillor on crack, DJ Boomerang Fidget spins hilarious tales of backwoods meth labs, urban decay and redneck ravers; all with a social conscience. Also, ambient & techno. Free Radio Berkeley 104.1 (Berkeley) * Thursday Morning 6-9am - "GYNA" Resident Djs buttek and maytag in a live 3 hour mix format bringin the latest UK and stateside rekkids...Guest djs coming include DJ Poop (Sf) next week, also be on the lookout for spots by DJ SIFU, Hak, and Sipon. For requests, rewinds, or anything else, call (408) 554-5728 or email thegyna * "Back To Babylon" - House extravaganza with DJ Sneak and Doc Martin. see Raveworld.net * Thursday morning 10am-2pm - "The Further Adventures of Aardvark" - trip-hop to experimental to ambient to gabba etc, etc. KSJS 90.5 (San Jose). * Thursday 7pm-11pm - The Beta Lounge - Live on the net - electronic music and culture, worldwide. http://www.betalounge.com/ * Friday 12pm-4pm - weekly DJ netcasts. x-radio. * Friday 3pm-6pm - free form music mix. KUSF 90.3 (SF) (also available on Realaudio * Friday 9:30am-noon - Snappy the Aligator plays deep groove music that dips into cool electronic sounds, classic soul, reggae & more. KALX, 90.7 FM (Berkeley) * Fridays 8pm PST - Freak City on Raveworld.net the definitive show on dance cultures. Featuring artists like Paul Van Dyk, Jason Bentley, Air and best of 1998 (Carl Cox, Josh Wink, Moontribe, Spundae, Burning Man * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night 1am-4am - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", with residents and hosts david garcia, st john along with joey mazzola and dj doubt. David garcia and joey mazzola are resident djs at the SKYLOUNGE located at 525 harrison st. along with rotating djs bb hayes and demilo. 1am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday morning - 12:30am-3am - "Under a Groove" with DJ CK featuring the deepest house grooves, downtempo cuts, and melodic drum and bass tunes. KZSC 88.1 FM, Santa Cruz. * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * (every other) Saturday night 10p-12:30a - "1984" w/DJ Richtoffen. House, Trance and German rave. 90.1 (Chico) * Saturday night - "amp" 1am. MTV. * Saturday night - "Subsonic". 1am-6am, KITS 105.3 SF. * Saturday night - "House Nation" w/"Anthems Mix", Top 10s from guest DJs and "London Connection w/DJ Doubt". 2am-4am, WILD 94.9 SF. * Ambiance Magazine - 9:30p weds-sun PNC Cable 2 (Modesto & Oakdale), 9p fri & sat, marcus cable ch 9 (ceres & turlock). * Saturday night/Sunday morning - 10pm - 3am, Aaron Axelson, Live 105.3 _________________________________________________________________ For a search interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.latetrain.com/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. To subscribe or unsubscribe to the calendar mailing list, send e-mail to majordomo@hyperreal.org with either the line subscribe sfraves-calendar or unsubscribe sfraves-calendar There is also an sfraves discussion mailing list for issues related to clubs, parties, house and techno music, etc. To subscribe, send e-mail to majordomo@hyperreal.org with the line subscribe sfraves in the body of the message. Karina Powers - karina@hyperreal.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 15:03:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26758 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 15:03:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 26740 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 15:03:26 -0000 Received: from web220.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 15:03:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423150244.29876.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.108.36.66] by web220.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:02:44 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Sensei Subject: Re: location scouts(Danville/Grange/Veterans Hall) To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, LordNyxx@aol.com, Anachra@aol.com, AdidasXE7@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm from Danville and I totally agree. They'd NEVER allow it.... --- WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > Bro u gots to b kidding you know the pigs in > Danville would never allow such > a party to go on in their city.....errrrr...... but > then again it gives em a > reason to strip search each and every one of us, > witch no doubt they would > like. And it would actually give em something to do > besides sitting on their > thumbs and pulling over cars with kiddies in it and > not to mention harassing > all the younger folks in Danville. > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 15:18:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5087 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 15:18:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 5079 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 15:18:51 -0000 Received: from mail9.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 15:18:51 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (wck-ca22-42.ix.netcom.com [207.92.174.170]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14951; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37208F35.8746871@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:18:13 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lynz CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: For FuTuRe reference References: <19990423071816.2558.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll be at Metropolis. Dunno what I am going to wear. =Paul*E*Wog lynz wrote: > > is anyone planning on going to Metropolis? i know i > know... it's kinda early to ask.. but still.. im just > curious, okay? :) i think im planning on going, and > my friends from LA are coming up that weekend and > it'll be their VERY FIRST party in the Bay Area... > (how exciting huh?) okay... so tell me what your > plans are... maybe we can meet up? > > Lynz > === > > "I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 15:32:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13321 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 15:32:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 13300 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 15:32:01 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 15:32:01 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (89) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKRCa24494 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:31:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:31:12 EDT Subject: fwd: denver shooting--support for all invovled To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am sure that at this point in time, everyone has heard of the tragic story of the Colorado High School shooting. In memory of those souls who were lost, for those who were injured, and for those who will have to live with the image of watching their best friend getting shot down, I would like to start this list to show the people of Colorado that we care. If this gets around and enough people put their names on,it will eventually get around to those people involved in this incident, and they will know that we are thinking of them and for those of us who pray, they are in ours prayers. Please, everyone who receives this, put your name and screen name, or just one of the two if you prefer, to show that we care. By the way, this is not a chain letter. If you decide not to send this on, nothing bad will happen to you. But please, have a heart, and show you care and pass it on to as much people as you can, even people out of AOL. 1. Ron Rohr (Shark44444@AOL.COM) 2. melissa (mel15476@aol.com) 3. Donna (freeknsgal@aol.com 4. Angie (angie28243@aol.com) 5. Alex H. (Jahtv98@aol.com 6. Elena (BlueS2014@aol.com) 7. Aspen and Sofia (T bone@aol.com) 8. Josh (DinoSurf17@aol.com) 9. John (SLmShDyKmK@aol.com)...Just Rember that could have been your school...... >> 10. Josh (x2kwik4ux> aol.com 11. Tina (RavePrnces@aol.com) or (MoonChyld1@aol.com) love and hope to all those involved in that tragic shooting!!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 16:56:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21912 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 16:56:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 21898 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 16:56:18 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 16:56:18 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id JAA04951; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:56:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904231656.JAA04951@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: :) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: goa@party.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Raving Geeks >Code all day, party all night > >Annalee Newitz, Special to SF Gate >Thursday, April 22, 1999 > > >URL: http://www.sfgate.com/technology/local/ > > >They've been going at it for almost 24 hours, thanks to those friendly >little pills somebody handed out -- when was it? Six hours ago? Eight? > >Mesmerized by beautiful electronic glowing lights and odd computer sounds >rapping at their ears, they 're so spaced out now, they can't tell what's >computer-generated and what's in their heads. > >Are these people thrashing on code in an all-night caffeine pill bender or >tweaking on ecstasy at a rave? > >In the Bay Area tech scene, it's hard to tell. Geeks and raves have formed a >seemingly unlikely union here, and together they've spawned a brood of >oxymorons: high-tech parties, blissed-out coders, and startup companies >filled with dancers. > >Then again, maybe it's not so unlikely. We are in the midst of a revolution >after all, and this is a bona-fide, though hidden, revolt. > >The quiet cubicle dweller at work who appears to be dutifully hacking away >may in fact be reading about tonight's raves on a calendar generated from >the SF Raves email list, or checking into Hyperreal -- a locally produced, >internationally known rave website -- to find out about a good batch of LSD >that 's circulating in the Santa Cruz area this week. > >A sysadmin who never wears anything but button-down shirts and chinos to >work may be spending his weekends in fluffy slippers, neon yellow jumpsuits, >and body glitter as he dances to downtempo and fingerpaints on his friends' >legs. > > >Dancing, drug, and interactive art parties known as raves have been popular >in the Bay Area for more than a decade, and certain rave collectives like >San Francisco 's Friends & Family and Santa Cruz 's Cloud Factory are >notoriously packed with engineers and code hounds. Friends & Family's >website even has an entire section devoted to "tech notes," which lists all >the hardware and software they use (Power Macs are where it 's at if you 're >gonna rave with FnF). > >A few Bay Area companies are also known to be raver enclaves. When web >design firm Organic expanded its offices a couple of years ago, employees >threw a rave in the new warehouse space called, appropriately enough, >"Expansion." The rave was simulcast on the Web with a couple of T1 lines >that just happened to be lying around. > >Other companies that are currently rave-friendly are hot SF startup Topica >(an email list portal), and Salinas-based ISP Ultima Networks. > >Of course, ravers work everywhere throughout the Gulch and the Valley >because the rave mindset is perfect for multimedia. Druglike associative >thinking makes for elegant code -- just ask the Apache folks connected with >Hyperreal -- and trippy graphical sensibilities help to create eye-catching >web campaigns (think Macromedia). Putting their knowledge of party pleasures >to use, ravers write immersive virtual worlds and gorgeous GUIs. > >Raves are also influenced by industry work -- the recipe for a killer >website mirrors what sweetens a groovy rave. DJs spin records mixed with >sound files, and light technicians project animations built from 3D >rendering software. Some of the more geek-laden groups will run all the >sound and lights for their parties through computers. > >So, how does a hard-working gearhead fit it all in? After all, a party >usually lasts all night, and during the warmer months there are weekend-long >outdoor rave camping events. > >That the raving geek life sounds overwhelming is precisely the point. For >workhorse engineers whose lives are circumscribed by corporate rules, it >makes sense that only an intense, earth-shaking rave could possibly cool >their brains down and heat up their neglected human senses. > >Raves are more than just a physical release for many people -- they are also >a political protest against the alienation of overwork. This protest is >inspired by Hakim Bey 's description of what he calls the TAZ (Temporary >Autonomous Zone), which has become an integral concept in rave communities. >TAZes are events as well as a counter-cultural philosophy described in Bey's >book, "The Temporary Autonomous Zone, Ontological Anarchy, Poetic >Terrorism." According to Hyperreal: "TAZes are "free-floating, mobile and >contingent sites of political and artistic resistance to dominant culture." > >In other words, a TAZ celebrates the casting away of what the dominant >powers-that-be require of us in everyday life: work, obedience, conformity, >and emotional repression. Raves qualify as TAZes because they are >hedonistic, nomadic, anti-authoritarian communities that are both >"temporary" and "autonomous" from laws and political institutions. > >Bey calls TAZes "ratholes in the Babylon of information," a phrase that >would also appeal to people in the industry who long for a place to escape >and rebel against information overload. > >Another key part of rave philosophy is PLUR, which stands for Peace, Love, >Unity, and Respect. Most ravers agree that the acronym came into widespread >use around 1993, when such rave community organizers as Laura LaGassa, >Frankie Bones, Brian Behlendorf, and Rishad Quazi started using the phrase >regularly in articles, emails, and speeches. > >If the TAZ provides a social theory for raves, then PLUR is its moral code. >Again, it's easy to see why work-crazed geeks would embrace such a >worldview. Although the computer industry is based on the unity of shared >information, it's also a business -- and as the saying goes, "business is >war." It's rare to find a corporate CEO who is having a PLUR day, and >competitive business practices can create angry, unlovely, disrespectful >situations in a deadline-driven work environment. > >But in the TAZ -- swaying to ambient music in a field of flowers or just >flower-colored lights -- even the most repressed cyberjocks can let loose >and feel the PLUR they've been missing all week on the job. Raver >friendships are an antidote to the corporate grind. And high-tech >playfulness is a kind of political statement, a challenge to the idea that >multimedia work should take place in an atmosphere of competition and >capitalist warfare. > >In an ideal world, work would be fun -- and that's the PLURiful secret that >keeps geeks raving long after everyone else has set their alarms for those 8 >AM meetings and gone to bed. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 17:04:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25784 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 17:04:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25772 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 17:03:59 -0000 Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 17:03:59 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA25906; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA18786; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:59:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: DON'T go see GO Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello everyone! since i saw so many wonderful reviews of the movie GO on this list, i had to give my opinion. I HATED IT!!! i have never been so bored, so annoyed, or so anxious for a movie to end as i was while watching this movie. maybe i had to write this to the list because i saw so many poeple saying "Go see GO! Go see GO!" and i'm wondering WHY poeple liked it? the first reason why it disgusted me was the untrue portrayal of what a rave is. according to this movie, a "rave thing" is a party where EVERYONE's goal is to get high before hand, and it's just a big sex fest, as shown on the outside of the warehouse in big letters "Mary Sex-Mas! Sex Sex Sex!" hello? is anyone else offended? i've stated my opinion on this subject before, but i'll say it again: the media can either help or destroy our scene. with exposure like this, the general public can't help but belive that all the myths about sex and drug fests are true. i'm won't deny that this type of stuff goes on at parties (it goes on at ANY kind of music event you go to) BUT... it is NOT the focus of our scene as others might believe. Second: I have never seen some stupider poeple in my life as those characters in the movie. i like paying $7.50 to see a movie with a plot, but not this. Third: The Quentin Terantino style didn't work for this movie. It just made me anxiously annoyed to find out the ending, or leave the theatre (jeremy and i had to leave for a bit to walk around!) ok - so now i've said my piece. i really didn't like this movie, but i'd be curious as to why some of you did. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 17:05:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26597 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 17:05:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 26588 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 17:05:08 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 17:05:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423170324.8413.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.140] by web4; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:03:24 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:03:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, dj MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk o.k. party people in the house..... without further adooo.... 21 and over please.... (if you are under 21 scroll down) you alreddy know the line-up Diversion,KeithE.& Skyscraper, gEoff ;), B))merang Fidget,Micron, Macadio directions: from e.bay, contra costa & beyond take all alternate routes to the 880 south Take the MONTAGUE EXPWY exit. 0.2 miles Keep RIGHT at the fork in the ramp. 0.3 miles Merge onto W MONTAGUE EXWY. 3.7 miles Stay straight to go onto SAN TOMAS EXWY. 0.4 miles Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto unnamed road. 0.0 miles Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto OWEN ST. 0.2 miles Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto CENTRAL EXWY. 1.4 miles Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto COBALT WAY. 0.2 miles COBALT WAY becomes APOLLO WAY. 1214 apollo way from s.f. and beyond take the 101 south Take the LAWRENCE EXPRESSWAY SOUTH exit. 0.3 miles Turn RIGHT onto N LAWRENCE EXWY. 1.0 miles Turn LEFT onto KIFER RD. 0.0 miles Turn LEFT onto N LAWRENCE EXWY. 0.3 miles Turn SLIGHT RIGHT onto APOLLO WAY. 1214 apollo way any questions??? http:www.quarternote.com/ or call 408/732-2110 . . . . . . . .under 21??? we are having a free afterparty 2am-7am with dj's Thomas Trouble, dj D, Supreme-C & Joaqman + an extra special special guest. admission is by r.s.v.p. ONLY!!!! please mention "afterparty" in the subject and send e-mail a.s.a.p. (my server is slowwwwwwwww) to cuaotemoc@hotbot.com leave a phone number where we can reach you or leave a message on our info lines 310/330-1101 or 415-339-8735 please speak clearly. you must act by 4:00pm sat4.24.99 or we will not be available to answer your request. sincerely, jonas From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 17:31:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9707 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 17:31:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 9684 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 17:31:01 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 17:31:01 -0000 Received: (from setje@localhost) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA01340; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:41:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Setje-Eilers Message-Id: <199904231741.KAA01340@mail.lunatic.org> To: akp2@duke.edu cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: DON'T go see GO In-Reply-To: ) cc: setje@mail.lunatic.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >ok - so now i've said my piece. i really didn't like this movie, but i'd >be curious as to why some of you did. > While in retrospect I could have really waited for it to come out on video (or missed it entirely), I also did not think it was all bad. I was also not totally bored by it. The humor actually was kind of funny at times, and some of the characters were pretty easy to relate to. I've seen parties pull off variations of sex themes, mostly in the house and to some extent in the hard-core realm. So i did not find that all that unrealistic. What I got a real kick out of is that most of the people at the party could not dance. The first thing that started going through my mind when i saw that was that someone must be selling bunk drugs. So I'd say a mediocre film with some redeeming humor. -jan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 17:50:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19860 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 17:50:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 19842 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 17:50:00 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 17:50:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423174913.29751.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.16] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:49:13 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: Spundae and 4:20 ? To: yana@briefcase.com, jvlavianos@cu-help.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- Yana wrote: > Yes, it's true. Grand openning was on 4/20 at > 4:20pm. > My friends were there, and yes, Jerry was running > the > register. They said everything was still packed in > boxes, > and whatever was available didn't have price tags > yet. > They said they liked it better than F8. It is on > Height > but I don't know the cross street. > I can't wait to go check it out myself. > Yana it's in the lower Haight, at Haight and Filmore. loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 17:54:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21675 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 17:54:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 21656 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 17:54:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web705.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 17:54:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423175426.419.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.145] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:54:26 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:54:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: Last BSP: 4.24.99, Dive-Urgency (the trance affliction) To: sfr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The info line for Divergent Regions V6.0 has been updated! (415-339-8735) Trust your instincts... follow your Urge to Diverge from the massive... explore the divergent regions of your soul... of love, respect, commUnity, and peace... come Trance with us all night long! 5 Families/CyberTropic communications give you... Dive-Urgency, the Trance Affliction, 4.24.99 --> Diversion (V.O.R.G.) --> Keith E. (Solid Grooves) --> Skyscraper (So. Bay Trance Co-op) --> gEoff ;) (Stargaze Family) --> Micron (viberation) --> Macadio (First Light) --> and B))merang Fidget 21+ only, $5 at door, 7pm-2am, So. Bay location (www.quarternote.com), Free parking, free organic fruit, free juice, clean air-conditioned space, w/ patio & bar, 100 people max. UG_style, family-vibe, nothin' but positivity. Ask around, then find out for yourself! C U there! ----------------------- ***PLUS*** A FREE, superspecial, private & intimate, all-ages "last hurrah" afterparty for **invited guests only!** So. Bay location (leave from Quarternote with us, or leave message with # and we'll call you with mappoint) 4.25.99, 2am-7am (right after Dive-Urgency) Our Tickle-ish trio DJ friends from T&J Factory: ---> Thomas Trouble ---> DJ D ---> Joaqman Plus: ---> one very special guest (whom you *all* know and love from the SFBay party scene!!) Come say hello or goodbye, good evening or good morning! But call for your place on the guest list!! C U there! --------------------- Keep it real and keep it upbeat... if it ain't fun, then why do it? === Alex the Happy Raver don't love until you love yourself don't give unless it's free... =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:02:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25221 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:02:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 24943 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:01:10 -0000 Received: from web124.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:01:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423180118.11816.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web124.yahoomail.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:01:18 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:01:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Digital Dreams To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well seeing how I NEVER have any luck with meeting spots. Although I'll will try to be there. I think it would just as easy if I just say what I'll have on. If you see me, come grab me and introduce yourself and anyone else you know and I'll do the same. I'll have on a T-shirt and blue jeans. heehee too vague? Well how about a MARVIN THE MARTIAN T-shirt and a 916JUNGLIST Staff badge around my neck with the name Party Pat. I didn't come up with the name. =Þ If it is cold I'll have on a black fleece vest on. Also, if I can find it, I have a floppy fisherman hat. It blue denim and has a Monterey Patch on it. See ya there. (hopefully) *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:03:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25210 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:02:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 24933 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:01:06 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:01:06 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id NAA07604; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id NAA23168; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:45:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Jan Setje-Eilers cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: sex raves (was NRR: DON'T go see GO) In-Reply-To: <199904231741.KAA01340@mail.lunatic.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've seen parties pull off variations of sex themes, mostly in the house and to some extent in the hard-core realm. So i did not find that all that unrealistic. hmm... and what parties would those be? i'm curious to know because i've never been to a party with a sex theme, nor heard of one. i've heard of many parties based around drugs (X-cited, go Emerica, etc.) but never a sex party. what ones were they? when were they? where were they? curious goerge wants to know. amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:11:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4078 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:11:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4069 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:11:35 -0000 Received: from f154.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:11:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 24182 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 18:10:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423181008.24181.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:10:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: nrr: my paul van dyk cd got scratched Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:10:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk waaaaahh! :( From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:19:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8669 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:19:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 8627 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:19:07 -0000 Received: from shell.entic.net (root@209.249.172.242) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:19:07 -0000 Received: from nico.sjsu.edu (nico@x130-65-210-22.sjsu.edu [130.65.210.22]) by shell.entic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20940 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:19:34 -0700 (PDT) From: n i c o X-Sender: nico@nico.sjsu.edu cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: sex raves (was NRR: DON'T go see GO) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > hmm... and what parties would those be? i'm curious to know because i've > never been to a party with a sex theme, nor heard of one. i've heard of > many parties based around drugs (X-cited, go Emerica, etc.) but never a > sex party. what ones were they? when were they? where were they? > curious goerge wants to know. > Sadly ironic these kinds of parties/raves supposedly occur in Las Vegas. There are some prostitutues and dancers that frequent parties and well ... as we all know Vegas is the city of sin ... or something. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:31:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15705 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:31:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 15694 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:31:44 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:31:44 -0000 Received: from SanFrnRave@aol.com (14376) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHFEa06727 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:30:20 -0400 (EDT) From: SanFrnRave@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:30:13 EDT Subject: NRRLooking for a Date/Boyfriend or Girlfriend/or sex partner To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: SanFrnRave@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey people im looking for a *Date/Boyfriend or Girlfriend/or sex partner* in the bay area...ive broken up with my ex i dont know wether to call it a her or a him since he was a hemaphordite...anyhow if there are any young ladies or boys send ur pics or sexual resumes to this e mail addy...im not doing this to be funny or retarded..i truelly want a date...im lonley and my labido is skyrocketing threw my dome!!!...no one should get anoyed by this post Either since we have freedon of speech and freedom of free sex WOOO HOOO!!!!,...we all love woop woop, just some of us actually go out and admit it or go out and get it...so all u sexy mamas, daddys wating fer ya in the kitchen... ok here are my stats acutally ill e mail them back to anyone who responds...ta ta From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:35:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17129 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:35:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 17114 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:35:16 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:35:16 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com (14376) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYKCa13190; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:34:11 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: <3154dc59.2452170f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:33:51 EDT Subject: Re: NRRLooking for a Date/Boyfriend or Girlfriend/or sex partner To: SanFrnRave@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WOOOP WOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!...YES!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:38:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19659 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:38:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 19547 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:38:27 -0000 Received: from f301.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.214) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:38:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 87590 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 18:38:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423183800.87588.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.208 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:38:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.208] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: nrr e-mail Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:38:00 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi I am wondering about settin up an e-mail account with hyperreal to communicate better with people of similar interests in music. Has anyone the time to set me in the right direction. Pls and Tnks Jaw From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:43:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23643 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:43:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23626 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:43:11 -0000 Received: from f48.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.59) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:43:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 57590 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 18:43:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423184349.57589.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.208 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:43:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.208] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: CanContrl@aol.com, SanFrnRave@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRRLooking for a Date/Boyfriend or Girlfriend/or sex partner Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:43:49 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Subject: Re: NRRLooking for a Date/Boyfriend or Girlfriend/or sex partner >>WOOOP WOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!...YES!!! Having studied Finnigan's Wake some, I find the above a literary explicative\confirmation statement. It also implies a neutered camaraderie. Rave On! going... going... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:51:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29983 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:51:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29937 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:51:00 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:51:00 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28704 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990423115434.007ed7f0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:54:34 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: re: nrr: my paul van dyk cd got scratched Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] >From: "Wayne Radinsky" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: nrr: my paul van dyk cd got scratched >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:10:07 PDT >Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org > > >waaaaahh! :( > > > > My friend's Paul Oaknefold CD got scratched mysteriuosly while I was borrowing it... WWAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!! -Carly This sucks cause I'm broke and now I have to buy him a new one :( *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:51:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 835 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 809 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:51:53 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-3.pilot.net (HELO mail03-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:51:53 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail03-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id LAA06889; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:53:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id LAA15222; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 8825675C.00679A45 ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:51:37 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: MacBunny cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <8825675C.006502E0.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:51:11 -0700 Subject: Re: NRR: DON'T go see GO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I personally enjoyed this movie. I feel your negativity towards the relationship of how this movie protrayed the rave scene as detrimental to its survival. I have to dissagree. The only way our scene would be destroyed is if you the ravers, promoters, and dj's aren't responsible for your actions. The depiction of the scene in this movie was just that, a depiction, an opinion of what the scene is from an outside source, I'm sure the director and or producer had some Idea on how to present the scene to the general populus. With that in mind, there is ALOT of ugliness in the scene, infact, it was brutally honest. Whether or not you choose to accept that or not is entirely up to you. The reason being from what I understand is that it was infact filmed at a real "rave". And your completely right the scene involves.... being sexual and drug related, thats exactly what it is, and it will continue to be protayed as that untill people reallize they need to be resonsible with what they are doing. I can't change the fact that people goto raves for either drugs or sex, niether can the media. I don't go to parties for this reason, I goto parties for 2 reasons, the number one reason is the MUSIC, the next reason is to be around Like minded people that also share the same love for the music. I dont do drugs, and I dont goto parties to scope the chicks hoping to get laid. But alot of people in our scene do, and its obviously apparent. But one thing you have to understand is that its not the media's fault for pointing this out, its our own fault for displaying this to the media to piont out. Sure drugs are apart of alot of different lifestyles, and yes I've seen movies protray those other lifestyles as such, but this was not a movie with those lifestyles involved, so your argument debating that our scene is the only one to be picked on... your wrong. It was the only one in regards to this movie for the sole fact that it was the only protrayel of a particular lifestyle in this movie. This movie had a plot, the plot was getting enough money to pay the rent, saw an opportunity to make more money by going down a shady road... and things didnt turn out as expected, I think in some cases we can all relate, maybe not with dealling ecstacy or going to a strip club but in our own ways we've seen golden opportunites and taken them and have them step on our shit, this movie depicted this well I feel. The Quentin Terantino style was a little off but it gave a fresh perspective of the different characters at different times in different circumstances that all seem to meld or relate to the same plot of the main chick trying to get enough money. I'm not attacking you for not liking this movie, you have your own opinion and your right to express that opinion, but since you requested why we on the list enjoyed the movie, I felt compelled to respond with my views towards the issues. Plus it makes for good conversation ;) and understanding :) Jason since i saw so many wonderful reviews of the movie GO on this list, i had to give my opinion. I HATED IT!!! i have never been so bored, so annoyed, or so anxious for a movie to end as i was while watching this movie. maybe i had to write this to the list because i saw so many poeple saying "Go see GO! Go see GO!" and i'm wondering WHY poeple liked it? the first reason why it disgusted me was the untrue portrayal of what a rave is. according to this movie, a "rave thing" is a party where EVERYONE's goal is to get high before hand, and it's just a big sex fest, as shown on the outside of the warehouse in big letters "Mary Sex-Mas! Sex Sex Sex!" hello? is anyone else offended? i've stated my opinion on this subject before, but i'll say it again: the media can either help or destroy our scene. with exposure like this, the general public can't help but belive that all the myths about sex and drug fests are true. i'm won't deny that this type of stuff goes on at parties (it goes on at ANY kind of music event you go to) BUT... it is NOT the focus of our scene as others might believe. Second: I have never seen some stupider poeple in my life as those characters in the movie. i like paying $7.50 to see a movie with a plot, but not this. Third: The Quentin Terantino style didn't work for this movie. It just made me anxiously annoyed to find out the ending, or leave the theatre (jeremy and i had to leave for a bit to walk around!) ok - so now i've said my piece. i really didn't like this movie, but i'd be curious as to why some of you did. much love, amber --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:52:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1376 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:52:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 1361 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:52:31 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:52:31 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA12645; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:51:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca5-31.ix.netcom.com(209.110.225.31) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma012607; Fri Apr 23 13:51:33 1999 Message-ID: <3720C118.482518EE@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:51:04 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leslie.ayres@excite.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence References: <924820469.11057.20@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm in complete agreance with Leslie. Music and Entertainment Media have have an enormous impact and influences. The proof is simple. Because there are 2 sides to every coin. If I didn't believe that a rave can bring people together though music and dance, and break down racial, social, and sexual animosities between people, as well as contribute to a more harmonious existence between cultures, and make positive influences in peoples lives... then I would not be promoting them. Now, If you also believe that this the rave culture can have this positive impact on a persons views and life philosophies... then you must accept the the opposite is also true. That Gangster Rap and Gothic Complaint Rock will also have a similar impact on an individual... but in a negative direction. Just like being at a rave can open you up to new and different emotions of peace, unity, love, understanding, and more... so can constantly listening to the glamorization of negative influences may encourage you to follow that path, and desensitizes you to the cruel reality of what it actually means. Keep it Mellow, Vlad leslie.ayres@excite.com wrote: > I'm trying hard to understand the perspective of those who feel we can't > "blame" music, video games, movies etc. for what happens to our kids... > > but i have a problem with it, because i think that at a certain point, some > things just have to be recognized as being dangerous, and as doing more harm > than good. Some things just effect us in a bad way. > > For instance.... take a minute... and repeat after me (either silently if > you're at work, or out loud if you can) ... fuck you, fuck you, nasty bitch, > nasty bitch.... now make up some clever lyrics about blowing people away in > mcdonalds because you got the wrong french fry order (real lyrics from a rap > song my boyfriend used to listen to)... now, tell me how you feel.... > really. i bet you feel sort of nasty and evil and angry and violent.... > even if you weren't when you started. > > now... part two... go play a video game, or just imagine one... one where > you have an automatic weapon, where your entire goal is to be on edge, > stalking people who may run out in front of you in the hall (or droids, or > shapes, whatever) ... and when you see them... quick, blow them away! boom, > boom, boom!! yes, and there's a reward, you get to WIN for that! how's that > adrenaline going? like it? > > THAT is what i'm talking about. we are creatures of habit, of behaviors > that can be triggered and can be reinforced and can be developed and > refined. > > and when that kind of stuff becomes rampant in our society, when little kids > at the movies are yelling out "blow that motherfucker away" at a suburban > movie.. we have to think about what we have created. > > when people defend lyrics like "i'm going to smack you up" or whatever, > under "freedom of speech" ... but that doesn't mean you shouldn't *think* > about it.... *think* about what that *really* means... > > when people carry guns in their cars and blow away someone whose driving > they don't like... *think* about how far we have descended in our society. > > this isn't about the media making this stuff up... and it's not about > judging how people dress or what kind of music they like.. and it's not > about pretending that we don't have a dark side to our personalities and our > human nature. > > it's about stopping and looking at the behavior patterns that are escalating > at an ever-increasing exponential rate in our society, and saying... enough > is enough. we have created monsters. how can we save ourselves from this > course? what can we each, as individuals, do to bring us back to a point > where we regain the ability to truly care about other people.. where we > don't *accep* and defend violent behavior... be it by word or by action. > > i'm sorry that i'm ranting on about this... but i think it's so important... > > leslie > > Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:55:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3817 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:55:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 3785 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:55:41 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:55:41 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA02899 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:55:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca1-20.ix.netcom.com(209.109.232.20) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002850; Fri Apr 23 13:54:46 1999 Message-ID: <3720CFA5.473A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:53:09 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR [Fwd: Re: Nikita: John Digweed....] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I might go.....Jeremy, what time are you going?? And who all are you driving up with?? Liz > > me and deepbeep and DJ Prophet... > > see ya there. > > mickers > o)-< > > --- Jeremy Bispo wrote: > > Friday Night John Digweed will be at Nikita....and > > I'll be there. I wish Harmony the best of luck in > > Sacramento, but I can't pass up Digweed. > > > > Who else is goin...?? > > > > =)jer > > > > > > > > === > > Jeremy B. Bispo > > Member Support Specialist > > Cybergold, Inc. > > 2921 Adeline > > Berkeley CA 94703 > > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:55:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4005 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:55:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 3907 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:55:46 -0000 Received: from www0m.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:55:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12564 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Apr 1999 18:55:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423185542.12563.qmail@www0m.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.42 by www0m via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Fri Apr 23 18:55:42 GMT 1999 Date: 23 Apr 99 11:55:42 PDT From: Stuart Sung To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE:NRRLooking for a Date/Boyfriend or Girlfriend/or sex partner X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yup, you said it, "freedon of speech and freedom of free sex WOOO HOOO!!!= !,.." =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "People think it's all about misery and desperation and death and all tha= t s#it which is not to be ignored, but what they forget is the pleasure of = it. = Otherwise we wouldn't do it. 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From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 18:59:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6355 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 18:59:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 6301 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 18:59:24 -0000 Received: from gateway.mpath.com (204.242.182.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 18:59:24 -0000 Received: from nodserv.mpath.com (nodserv.mpath.com [206.233.214.16]) by gateway.mpath.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18464; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from what (what.mpath.com [206.233.215.137]) by nodserv.mpath.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA14210; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990423115822.00938c10@mail.mpath.com> X-Sender: what@mail.mpath.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:58:22 -0700 To: n i c o From: Adam Schricker Subject: Re: sex raves (was NRR: DON'T go see GO) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would just like to add... I LOVE LAS VEGAS!!! :) adam At 11:19 AM 4/23/99 -0700, n i c o wrote: >> >> hmm... and what parties would those be? i'm curious to know because i've >> never been to a party with a sex theme, nor heard of one. i've heard of >> many parties based around drugs (X-cited, go Emerica, etc.) but never a >> sex party. what ones were they? when were they? where were they? >> curious goerge wants to know. >> > >Sadly ironic these kinds of parties/raves supposedly occur in Las Vegas. > >There are some prostitutues and dancers that frequent parties and well ... >as we all know Vegas is the city of sin ... or something. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 19:15:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19669 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 19:15:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 19639 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 19:15:19 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 19:15:19 -0000 Received: from [209.24.165.143] (dynamic51.pm17.san-jose.best.com [209.157.116.51]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id MAA28136 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:14:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: madmacks@shell4.ba.best.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:11:21 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jonathan Mack Subject: 4:20 Pre Production Party on Sat.-4.24 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all interested sfravers, We just keep adding things to our show! We have just confirmed Miss 'E' for our pre production party. I truly apologize to Miss E and everyone at Eklektik last night who were hoping on seeing us and some flyers last night. There is a working web site you my visit as well as well as a listing on sfraves. Our venue should be spectacular with Justin Hale, Harry Who, Chris Jackson, Miguel, Lichen, Brian Gaul from LA, and now Miss 'E' as well as our DJ line up. Visuals by Stefan G (CultureLab) and black light and elemental art by A Waking Dream. Unfortunate for some, and due to the 'nature' of our Ganja Girls we must make this an 18 or older venue. There will be a fully stocked bar as well as an assortment of goodies and aesthetics... Tickets are now on sale at Solid Grooves and Paramount Imports in San Jose, and Golden Triangle and Housewares in the city. The working web site is http://www.kosmik.com/andrewd/420 The sfrave listing may be viewed at: http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi We will be celebrating the upcoming feature film, in which the sfrave community will be invited in its entirety to be apart of. Until then I hope to see any persons interested in this project on Saturday night...I hope everyone's highly anticipated 4.20 was in accordance ;) 4 Freedom 4 Liberty 4 Justice 4:20 Sincerely, Jonathan Mack From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 19:16:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20714 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 19:16:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 20582 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 19:16:14 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 19:16:14 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA06295; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:15:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca1-20.ix.netcom.com(209.109.232.20) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006063; Fri Apr 23 14:14:45 1999 Message-ID: <3720D5E9.79B1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:19:56 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: James Pushack , Francey , Chynna , Chrysallys Jennifer , Davis Daniel , albert myong , David Meza Subject: NRR:: Prayer for those involved Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > > To everyone that reads this: > > > > > > My name is Jayson Martin from Littleton, Colorado, I > would > > like for anyone who reads this to please write their name down. I > would > > like to send prayers out to my friends who were in Columbine H.S. > I > would > > like > > everyone to please say a prayer for the safety of everyone who was > > involved > > in this terrible tragedy. it is something that has hurt me today > as > well > > as > > my friends, I'm grateful for my safety and their safety. Please > Forward > > this to as many people as you can, let us all come together and > pray > that > > this tragedy ends soon. Thank you. > > > > ***Copy this letter, add your name and forward it to as many > people > as you > > know. thank you. > > > > > 1. Jayson L. Martin Littleton, Colorado > > > 2. Michelle R. Evans Aurora, Colorado > > > 3. Brooke A. Bayer Greeley and Littleton, Colorado > > > 4. Adam B. Mutzbauer Denver, Co. > > > 5. Brian P. Connors, Golden, CO, born in Littleton > > > 6. Dana Kasper, Colorado Springs, CO > > > 7. Soizic Lewicke-Frin, Colorado springs, CO > > * 8.Beverky Yanke, Colo. Spgs. Co. > > * 9. Charity Eilerman > > * 10. Teri Adams, San Jose Ca. > > * 11. Sharon Aguilera, San Jose, CA > > 12. Lori Cornmesser, San Jose, CA > > 13. Linda Girard, Boston, MA > 14. Cheryl Tavares, Pelham, NH> > 15. Mavis Tripoli, Windham,NH > 16. Debra Ferrera, Medford, MA > 17. Liz Walsh-Salisbury, MA > 18. VANESSA BRADY-WRENTHAM,MA > 19. Irma Marquez - San Jose, CA > 20. Juanita Mota-San Jose, CA > 21.Jennifer Sullivan-Campbell,CA > 22. Elizabeth Traver- San Jose, CA > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 19:43:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9924 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 19:43:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9883 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 19:43:44 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 19:43:44 -0000 Received: (from setje@localhost) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04637; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:54:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Setje-Eilers Message-Id: <199904231954.MAA04637@mail.lunatic.org> To: akp2@duke.edu cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: sex raves (was NRR: DON'T go see GO) In-Reply-To: ) cc: setje@mail.lunatic.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk akp2@duke.edu wrote: >hmm... and what parties would those be? i'm curious to know because i've >never been to a party with a sex theme, nor heard of one. i've heard of >many parties based around drugs (X-cited, go Emerica, etc.) but never a >sex party. what ones were they? when were they? where were they? >curious goerge wants to know. > I figured someone would yell at me about that. I can think of the flyer art for the party I'm specifically thinking of, but can't remember the name. So I just did a quick look around www.ravelinks.com, and here's what i cam up with in a couple of minutes. Happy Booty, Vinyl Frontier, Love Life, Love Life #2 Eurotika 3 (actually a biohazard party, I was kind of surprised featuring Mystr-E (F8) | Gabe (Biohazard) | Thee-O (Biohazard) | More TBA - climax to the finale, somewhere in socal i suppose, this memorial day) Another series of parties that comes to mind is animania, and while not really a meat market sort of thing, I think it would be hard to paint sex out of the picture of raunchy anime and hardcore. So that took me about 3 minutes to find, based on which I will completely un-scientifically jump to the conclusion that they are not all that rare, and i would not really be all that surprised to see a flyer for Marry Sex-Mas, I might shake my head at it, but i would not be surprised. -jan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 19:48:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12299 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 19:48:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 12220 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 19:48:07 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 19:48:07 -0000 Received: from pm6-46.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id J3LNRD7A; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:46:28 -0700 Message-ID: <000901be8dc2$2e21ee20$2ec4cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: dive-urgency, all play together & liberty bsp Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:47:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey all it's a gorgeous friday afternoon and i'm down to only about 200 unread messages in my sfraves box (was 600 yesterday) - yay! ok, so who all is going to dive-urgency & all play together besides me? is there a designated sfraves meeting spot yet?? chris and i will be splitting our evening/ morning at both events and are looking forward to meeting some folks from the list! on a totally unrelated note, i've spent a lot of time working on the liberty page so if anyone wants to check it out http://liberty.ispree.net -- feedback is appreciated! we are selling the cheapest glowstix you will find on the net, not to mention boas, glownecklaces, and a small assortment of raver toys. if you are a dj, please add your name to our dj listing - it features an edit-yourself page with a selectable format. last but not least, check out the events page -- if you are looking for info line numbers or just want to know who the lineup is for any event, you can find it here. have a safe and wonderful weekend everyone. =)SOOZ aka libertygrl From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 19:58:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19671 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 19:58:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 19651 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 19:58:18 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 19:58:18 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id PAA17302; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id PAA05143; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:54:57 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: DON'T go see GO In-Reply-To: <8825675C.006502E0.00@boxster.hq.adia> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i understand what you are saying, and it is necessary for people to be responsible for their actions, but those are not my actions. what was depicted in the movie is nothing like my expiriences or how i act at parties, nor how my friends act (as far as i know.) i'm sure there are plenty of poeple out there that fit into society's sterotypical raver description, but i don't like sterotypes, let alone having them aplied to me. maybe i took the movie to personally (but please don't dis me for that - to each her own) but it just disappointed me. i heard too much hype and it wasn't my kind of movie. i don't want pople taking offense or seeing this as a personal attack that they liked it and i hated it. everyone has opinions (i just had to say that becuase i know how situations based solely on opinion can turn into flame wars.) hmm... it's interesting to hear others opinions too. here's a question for all of you: how do you think we can get poeple to look at the positive side of life, rather than the negative. i think it was bodhi (correct me if i give credit to the wrong person) who said that it's easier for the media to show all the violent, negative, horrific events in this world and glorify them on tv for entertainment, rather than the beautiful and the helpful things done by poeple. that's the problem with media coverage of our scene: everyone concentrates on the negative or trying to dispell the negative. let's all forget about it and enjoy the positive! from my beliefs (and i practice no set religion, but base all my beliefs on observation and personal expirience) we all have this speck of good in us, just waiting to shine through with a beautiful ray of light, but it's clouded over by "the nothing", this great evil you can't see and sometimes don't even know is there, but can consume you, and make you think that doing the wrong thing is right, when it really isn't. we all have to learn to let that little ray of happy light shine through the clouds, even when someone pisses you off, even when things are looking bad in your life and all around you, even when you are angry. we have to learn to release the negative nergy inside us without hurting others, so that it no longer controls our thoughts and actions. don't keep hurt, anger and resentment pent up inside you. breathe it out, and breathe in happiness. i'm not trying to preach to you all, i just wanted to share a little something that helps keep me happy all the time. i'm not perfect, so sometimes i let that evil inside me control me too much, but i kow when to catch myself and say "hey, you're being a bitch, shutup!" and i move on. i think i completly got off the subject here, and i had a point, i hope you all see it :) enjoy your weekends. much love, amber ps: this is my last post until monday, i promise :) On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 Jason.LEE@adecco.com wrote: > > I personally enjoyed this movie. I feel your negativity towards the > relationship of how this movie protrayed the rave scene as detrimental to > its survival. > I have to dissagree. The only way our scene would be destroyed is if you > the ravers, promoters, and dj's aren't responsible for your actions. The > depiction > of the scene in this movie was just that, a depiction, an opinion of what > the scene is from an outside source, I'm sure the director and or producer > had some Idea > on how to present the scene to the general populus. With that in mind, > there is ALOT of ugliness in the scene, infact, it was brutally honest. > Whether or not you > choose to accept that or not is entirely up to you. The reason being from > what I understand is that it was infact filmed at a real "rave". And your > completely right > the scene involves.... being sexual and drug related, thats exactly what it > is, and it will continue to be protayed as that untill people reallize they > need to be > resonsible with what they are doing. I can't change the fact that people > goto raves for either drugs or sex, niether can the media. I don't go to > parties for this reason, I goto parties for 2 reasons, the number one > reason is the MUSIC, the next reason is to be around Like minded people > that also share the same love for the music. I dont do drugs, and I dont > goto parties to scope the chicks hoping to get laid. But alot of people in > our scene do, and its obviously apparent. But one thing you have to > understand is that its not the media's fault for pointing this out, its our > own fault for displaying this to the media to piont out. Sure drugs are > apart of alot of different lifestyles, and yes I've seen movies protray > those other lifestyles as such, but this was not a movie with those > lifestyles involved, so your argument debating that our scene is the only > one to be picked on... your wrong. It was the only one in regards to this > movie for the sole fact that it was the only protrayel of a particular > lifestyle in this movie. This movie had a plot, the plot was getting > enough money to pay the rent, saw an opportunity to make more money by > going down a shady road... and things didnt turn out as expected, I think > in some cases we can all relate, maybe not with dealling ecstacy or going > to a strip club but in our own ways we've seen golden opportunites and > taken them and have them step on our shit, this movie depicted this well I > feel. The Quentin Terantino style was a little off but it gave a fresh > perspective of the different characters at different times in different > circumstances that all seem to meld or relate to the same plot of the main > chick trying to get enough money. > > I'm not attacking you for not liking this movie, you have your own opinion > and your right to express that opinion, but since you requested why we on > the list enjoyed the movie, I felt compelled to respond with my views > towards the issues. > > Plus it makes for good conversation ;) and understanding :) > > Jason > > > > > > > since i saw so many wonderful reviews of the movie GO on this list, i had > to give my opinion. I HATED IT!!! i have never been so bored, so > annoyed, or so anxious for a movie to end as i was while watching this > movie. maybe i had to write this to the list because i saw so many > poeple saying "Go see GO! Go see GO!" and i'm wondering WHY poeple liked > it? the first reason why it disgusted me was the untrue portrayal of > what a rave is. according to this movie, a "rave thing" is a party where > EVERYONE's goal is to get high before hand, and it's just a big sex fest, > as shown on the outside of the warehouse in big letters "Mary Sex-Mas! > Sex Sex Sex!" hello? is anyone else offended? i've stated my opinion > on this subject before, but i'll say it again: the media can either help > or destroy our scene. with exposure like this, the general public can't > help but belive that all the myths about sex and drug fests are true. > i'm won't deny that this type of stuff goes on at parties (it goes on at > ANY kind of music event you go to) BUT... it is NOT the focus of our > scene as others might believe. > > Second: I have never seen some stupider poeple in my life as those > characters in the movie. i like paying $7.50 to see a movie with a plot, > but not this. > > Third: The Quentin Terantino style didn't work for this movie. It just > made me anxiously annoyed to find out the ending, or leave the theatre > (jeremy and i had to leave for a bit to walk around!) > > ok - so now i've said my piece. i really didn't like this movie, but i'd > be curious as to why some of you did. > > much love, > amber > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 20:10:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25620 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 20:10:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 25593 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 20:10:34 -0000 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net (HELO mail.ednet.net) (216.112.68.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 20:10:34 -0000 Received: from [216.112.68.152] ([216.112.68.152] verified) by mail.ednet.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b2) with ESMTP id S.0000312176; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:10:35 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: joe@mail.ednet.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990306.000131.-3850255.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> References: <19990306.000131.-3850255.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:10:36 -0700 To: the town drunk From: Joe Rice Subject: Re: No More 1200 MK2's Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 12:01 AM -0800 3/6/99, the town drunk wrote: >They are gettin' rid of the little green light thingie!?!?! Woo-hoo!!! >I'm a go eat me some muffins!! I hate that little green light thingie! I >guess it's ok if you are just listening to regular vinyl like a Black >Sabbath album or something, but who uses TECHNICS for that? That's beside >the point. The point is, thank you TECHNICS... and thank you, GOD. > On a recent trip to Tokyo I checked out both the 1200Mk3D and the 1200Mk4. Here's what I determined: 1200Mk3D - Slightly modified on/off switch and a switch to engage/disengage the quartz lock at the center, much like the Vestax decks. The couple of these I saw were silver. 1200Mk4 - As far as I could tell, the same as the 1200Mk2 [no quartz lock disengage] but adds 78rpm speed. The one of these I saw was black. Joe From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 20:13:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27411 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 20:13:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 27390 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 20:13:02 -0000 Received: from mail.lunatic.org (207.171.204.205) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 20:13:02 -0000 Received: from impact.lunatic.org (localhost.lunatic.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lunatic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05570; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904232023.NAA05570@mail.lunatic.org> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: DON'T go see GO In-Reply-To: <8825675C.006502E0.00@boxster.hq.adia>) cc: setje@mail.lunatic.org Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:23:55 -0700 From: Jan Setje-Eilers Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >on how to present the scene to the general populus. With that in mind, >there is ALOT of ugliness in the scene, infact, it was brutally honest. I'll have to second that in a big way. the only things i could not in some way relate to were the Vegas incidents, but i know people whom i not put some of those things past. >I understand is that it was infact filmed at a real "rave". From what it looked like I'd be willing to believe this. I'm still confused why the dancing was all crap, my only theory is that different music was added in the film (which is actually kind of likely). Other incongruencies, the kid that took the two "e's" did not really end up acting like he took mdma, but that too may be interpreted as a very real part of the scene. Admittedly I had a pretty stiff drink before I went to see the film (and I'm a total lightweight), but i actually though some of the stuff was really funny, in a sort of sick way, but still really funny. -jan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 20:26:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3693 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 20:26:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 3640 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 20:26:03 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 20:26:03 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8WTLWFQ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:25:32 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:24:23 -0700 Subject: Yummy. Message-ID: <19990417.224219.2678.0.Trigometric@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,4-10 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So I finally picked up the new Underworld CD. It's all about Cups. Favorite track by far. Like I said in the subject.........yummy. Gonna be in Santa Cruz the night of the concert. Oh well. : o ( Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 20:46:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14170 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 20:46:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 14156 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 20:46:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 20:46:22 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id ACCE841700E8; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:49:18 -0700 From: "Rick" To: , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: negative words and violence Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:43:16 -0700 Message-ID: <000601be8dc9$e9f14a40$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <924820469.11057.20@excite.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying hard to understand the perspective of those who feel we can blame music, video games, movies etc. for what happens to our kids... Seriously, no matter what the influence is, it is the ultimate decision of that person to act upon it. We are all responsible for our actions, whether or not something inlfuences us to act a certain way, it is that individuals responsibility to know right from wrong. >I'm trying hard to understand the perspective of those who feel we can't >"blame" music, video games, movies etc. for what happens to our kids... I agree, but I think the media is picking on an industry that does more good than harm. parents are the ultimate inlfuence in any kids life. if anyone or thing is at fault for a kids actions, it's his parents and how they have brought that child up. I feel my parents did a good job on me until I could really think and understand things in a more mature and logical way. Everything the media cites as possible libels in the colorado shooting, i've basically been through, and to some degree even transcended their meager beginnings. But because I know right from wrong, because my parents taught me well as a child, I can make moral and just decisions as a kid and an adult. >but i have a problem with it, because i think that at a certain point, some >things just have to be recognized as being dangerous, and as doing more harm >than good. Some things just effect us in a bad way. i never have liked rap a whole lot, i used to listen a bit, just not much. I don't care for the style of music, partly because of the music and partly because of the lyrics. i love heavy metal. a lot of the bands are "satanic" and describe ritual killings and "elder gods" and other bs. do i sacrifice virgin maidens on a full moon, trying to summon azazel and his wings of twelve? no. why? because i know what's right and what's wrong and what's just bull shit. when i did listen to rap, i didn't hold up a liquor store busting caps fucking ho's and doing drugs. why? because i know right from wrong and can make my own decisions... and it was my choice not to break the law, not to infringe upon the rights of others. rap didn't make me a gangsta. death metal didn't make me worship satan or some stupid shit like that. >For instance.... take a minute... and repeat after me (either silently if >you're at work, or out loud if you can) ... fuck you, fuck you, nasty bitch, >nasty bitch.... now make up some clever lyrics about blowing people away in >mcdonalds because you got the wrong french fry order (real lyrics from a rap >song my boyfriend used to listen to)... now, tell me how you feel.... >really. i bet you feel sort of nasty and evil and angry and violent.... >even if you weren't when you started. Here's what REALLY pisses me off. Video games are a big thing in my life. I've been playing games for years. about 2 decades now. my dad got me started with the commodore 64 and pong. we used to make controllers and code little programs together. video games provide entertainment. for me, it's what i want to do with my life. just about anything involving video games from art to testing to coding if i have to. and i feel that the media is attacking one of the few industries that are providing a great service. Not only can you find education video games, but you can find games like dancing simulators, role-playing games, sports games, gameshow games, adventure games, space tours, police games, quest games, horror games, racing games, shooting games, pinball games, fighting games and just about anything you can think of. even DJ games! video games are fictional. if you can't figure that out, you really have no brain cells. if playing quake makes you think you can go and shoot a bunch of people and get away with it, you are an idiot and don't deserve to live. i'm tired of the stupidity of the human population. society is fucked up if you can, with a clean conscience, blame the music industry, video games, porn, and world history for these 2 kids actions. The kids had nothing to do with it? the devil made them do it? get with it, we are in charge of our own destiny, we make our lives what they are. we make our own decisions, we take our own actions, and we live with the consequences whether or not we realise them before we think, before we act. besides, in doom, duke nukem, and quake, almost all if not all of the things you shoot are human... how can you relate that to real life? unless billy joe has a pair of horns, is squat, flaming red eyes, claws, furry pink skin, and fireballs coming out of his mouth, how can you justify killing him? the video game industry already polices itself, and i think it's wrong too. they rate their games based on a variety of criterium. voluntarily. if anything is wrong, it's that retailers sell games like quake with violent content to kids. they are rated mature for a reason. >now... part two... go play a video game, or just imagine one... one where >you have an automatic weapon, where your entire goal is to be on edge, >stalking people who may run out in front of you in the hall (or droids, or >shapes, whatever) ... and when you see them... quick, blow them away! boom, >boom, boom!! yes, and there's a reward, you get to WIN for that! how's that >adrenaline going? like it? And being sentient beings, we have the ability to alter our habits, change our minds, fight our instincts and rise above that level of bestial behavior. And it's our teachers, parents and adults that really shape how we grow up. like i said before, if anyone is to blame, I blame the parents. Adults these days don't spend enough time being apart of their child's life. to raise them, to nurture their dreams and desires and to shape them into upstanding individuals. Outside influences can be detrimental or helpful, depending on how it's handled. A kid walks in on his parents having sex, what do you do? Do you tell him to get the fuck out and continue fucking your beautiful wife and then later scold him for interrupting your "Who's your daddy?" session? Or do you explain to the child the intimacies of sex and where babies come from and how much you truly love your mate and how it's something special between two people who love each other enough to warrant this beautiful act? of course, it really depends on the age and maturity of the child, but still, which would you prefer? learning sex from ButtMaster Vol. 23, or taching your child yourself? >THAT is what i'm talking about. we are creatures of habit, of behaviors >that can be triggered and can be reinforced and can be developed and >refined. I've been hearing profanity and violence since i was a wee child in kindergarten. In fact, the first word I spelled out to my granmother was F-U-C-K-Y. She asked me how to spell my name, because that's what I learned that day. but i knew more then i let on... And it slipped out. I didn't learn that from teachers. I learned it from my parents, just as the kids i went to school with. we shared our knowledge of the profane adult at an early age, and not from Cheech and Chong. i grew up in a bad neighborhood, i'd say. not quite ghetto, but not far from it, though it has evolved into one since... i wasn't a violent kid. every kid loses his temper every once in a while, but i never hit anyone, and i've never ever been in a fight. i grew up around all sorts of stuff, and i think i turned out well. i've done my share of bad things, but that was a long time ago and i never hurt anybody. >and when that kind of stuff becomes rampant in our society, when little kids >at the movies are yelling out "blow that motherfucker away" at a suburban >movie.. we have to think about what we have created. if you are alluding to the Smack My Bitch Up track from the Prodigy, that is a sample. How is that any different from rap groups popping caps in someone's ass and then fucking dem ho's? it's a sample. just like PWEI's sampling of Bladerunner, Wake up! Time to die! So is PWEI responsible if I go out and shoot a few replicants? I don't think so. I know if I shot someone, it would be my fault, if I beat up a girl, it'd be my fault, not the Prodigy. me. >when people defend lyrics like "i'm going to smack you up" or whatever, >under "freedom of speech" ... but that doesn't mean you shouldn't *think* >about it.... *think* about what that *really* means... It's no real wonder why people shoot people who can't drive. it's stressful. it has nothing to do with video games, music, movies or porn. people are idiots. self-righteous, pompous and stupid. ignorance is bliss. i get really pissed driving around the bay area. if i see someone speeding by me on the freeway at 120mph, i gladly applaud them. if i could go that fast, i would. i've never been in an accident that was my fault. in fact, i got into an accident a few years ago making a left turn on a green, when a car ran a red light and hit me. i got out and he stopped and got out while a few other cars stopped and people got out. i was like, what the fuck? what were you thinking? the guy said he thought it was green and that he had the right of way and that it was my fault. while the others that witnessed it came up and told us that he ran a red light and he was at fault, not me. the guy said he was late for a wedding and that he was a priest and had to get going, and gave me his info quickly and never admitted he lied and tried to get out of paying. how's that for irony? a nice christian upbringing, a priest no less tries to get out of accepting blame. >when people carry guns in their cars and blow away someone whose driving >they don't like... *think* about how far we have descended in our society. Our legal system seems to support violent behaviour. Look at the OJ Simpson case. All signs point to the fact he killed his wife. Lorraine Bobbit cut off her husbands dick, drove a few miles and threw it off a fucking bridge and she got off scott free. there are a lot of things that need to be fixed, i think we should concentrate on more important things like the fucked up justice system and the terrible education system we have, rather than attacking music groups, video games, porn, and movies. those are all valid forms of ENTERTAINMENT, let's concentrate on EDUCATION. >this isn't about the media making this stuff up... and it's not about >judging how people dress or what kind of music they like.. and it's not >about pretending that we don't have a dark side to our personalities and our >human nature. > >it's about stopping and looking at the behavior patterns that are escalating >at an ever-increasing exponential rate in our society, and saying... enough >is enough. we have created monsters. how can we save ourselves from this >course? what can we each, as individuals, do to bring us back to a point >where we regain the ability to truly care about other people.. where we >don't *accept* and defend violent behavior... be it by word or by action. I agree, I think it's important as well. But I think we're pointing the fingers at the wrong people. >i'm sorry that i'm ranting on about this... but i think it's so important... >leslie Your Jedi Bitch, Jedi666Boy Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 20:54:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17327 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 20:54:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 17318 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 20:54:40 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 20:54:40 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8050) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSKUa17637 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:53:27 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <74f5e700.24523766@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:51:50 EDT Subject: BSP: Groove On Productions presents. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Groove On Producitions presents: Ethereal: An adventure in space and time. May14th 550 Barneveld SF 10pm-5am 21+ $10.00 Groove Line (415) 207-6283 Check for line up updates and directions beginning monday april 26th. Dj Line up: Soul Kid. Orlando FL. Funky Break Beatz. David Hopper. LA Progressive House DyLoot SF Techno Micron SF Trance Sience SF Jungle Megatron SF Jungle DysFunctional SF House Stay posted. More to be annouced. Peace, M "Ask nothing of someone you wouldnt ask of yourself." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 20:56:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18762 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 20:56:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 18748 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 20:55:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 20:55:59 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id AF169C70010A; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:59:02 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "Spiral of Evolution" , "SFRaves" Subject: RE: Yummy. Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:53:05 -0700 Message-ID: <000701be8dcb$48fd7440$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <19990417.224219.2678.0.Trigometric@juno.com> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Underworld only comes around so often. i suggest breaking plans. the new album is tops. cups is beautiful, jumbo is the next single due out. king of snake was the first unofficial single, promo only. push upstairs is out now. though not in america, unless you consider a vinyl release an american release. i prefer cd's. jumbo should be released in the uk pretty soon, with cups following up later this year. there a couple of tracks i don't care for. i don't like push downstairs and i don't like bruce lee much. but it's growing on me. push downstairs reminds me of nick cave too much and i don't like nick cave. =\ go to the show. =) i'm organizing a meet of dirty peeps like me. >So I finally picked up the new Underworld CD. It's all about Cups. >Favorite track by far. >Like I said in the subject.........yummy. Gonna be in Santa Cruz the >night of the concert. Oh well. : o ( >Triad Your Jedi Bitch, Jedi666Boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:00:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21555 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:00:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 21506 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:00:06 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:00:06 -0000 Received: from DjShUbErT@aol.com (14388) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yDSHa04279 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:58:01 -0400 (EDT) From: DjShUbErT@aol.com Message-ID: <402564ba.245238a9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:57:13 EDT Subject: A Quick Reminder : BP -Daytime Event To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: DjShUbErT@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Saturday, April 24th - Come out and Play Presents presents Flavor Shubert ( Dub'L Vision ), Dizolve ( Dub'L Vision ) , Atomic Dj ( V.O.R.G ), Jeff ( Atp ), Damon ( Atp ). Free daytime potluck BBQ. Leave an area code please at number posted. Look for more daytime warmup parties TBA soon. 12noon-. Central Park, Santa Clara. 408.302.3748 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:07:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26842 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:07:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 26832 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:07:35 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:07:35 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01328; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:05:54 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990423071816.2558.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:09:07 -0700 To: lynz From: terry estioko Subject: Re: For FuTuRe reference Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Considering Metropolis (Clockwork) is from LA anyway, they should feel right at home. -terry >is anyone planning on going to Metropolis? i know i >know... it's kinda early to ask.. but still.. im just >curious, okay? :) i think im planning on going, and >my friends from LA are coming up that weekend and >it'll be their VERY FIRST party in the Bay Area... >(how exciting huh?) okay... so tell me what your >plans are... maybe we can meet up? > >Lynz >=== > >"I don't want realism. I want magic!"-Blanche DuBois ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:11:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29133 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:11:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 29125 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:11:02 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:11:02 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-72.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.72]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA11986; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <01dd01be8dce$297ab6c0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "MacBunny" , References: Subject: Re: DON'T go see GO Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:13:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > ok - so now i've said my piece. i really didn't like this movie, but i'd > be curious as to why some of you did. 1) I thought the humor was quite good, simple but good. 2) I felt it didn't portray the scene in a bad light at all! I don't know where you got "sex fest" from, but the only "sex" scenes that I seem to remember took place in Las Vegas and on the stairs of the drug pimps apartment. Almost none of the people that were portraied as "high" weren't actually in the party at all (the van of loosers getting high off benadryl). While the music was more commercial then I have heard, I felt it showed parties as they truly are... "dance fests" (with glow sticks ;)). I liked it and would reccommend other people to go see it... but then again, thats just my opinion =) Love & Music, -Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:17:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3608 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:17:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 3559 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:17:19 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:17:19 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3699) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWGDa03569; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:16:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <426c15ac.24523d11@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:16:01 EDT Subject: BsP-DJMEGATRON in full effect (RASPUTINS in store and DUBPHONIK)Oo.oO To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org CC: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, Benefit@happykidsproductions.org, dnb@breakbeat.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok people here is the lowdown on my saturday... 7am: goes to the shower and washes his ass 8am:eats me some toast and eggs and shit 9am:gets online for an hour 10am:practice my daily morning skratch before i leave the house 11am:check my wallet to see if i am financially set for 2 weeks(sometimes i am to my last dime 3 days after payday) 12pm: catches the bus from richmond to berkeley: 1:30pm:finally after the loooooong bus ride i arrive in berkeley...hungry as hell. 2:00PM-5:00PM: DOES AN INSTORE IN RASPUTINS RECORD STORE WITH THE BAY AREA HIP HOP COALITION SPINNIN JUNGLE ALL DAY 6pm: try to figure out how im going to go to sf 7pm-9pm:desides to walk across the bay bridge to 78 minna from berkeley (a hint to u guys with a car that is going there tomarrow nite...can i getta ride?? includes benifits =)) 10PMTO11PM:DOES HIS FIRST MAJOR GIG AT DUBPHONIK HAPPENING AT 78 MINNA ...IT ALSO STARTS AT 9PM AND OVER AT 2.MAKE SURE U GUYS CHECK OUT DJ MEGATRON BEFORE U GUYS CHECK OUT OTHER DJS AT THE PARTY SUCH AS VIN ROC, PUSH, TIK TAK, TOMAS, THE JUNGLE LIFE CREW,JAMALSKI, ETC. AND ITS $7 AT THE DOOR.... 2am:swims across the bay back to the imfamous city of RICHMOND for the people who didnt get this lil creative writing thingamajiggy...check me out at rasputins in berkeley on telegraph from 2 to 5pm spinnin jungle with the bay area hip hop coalition. also check me out tomarrow at dubphonik from 10 to 11 pm spinnin the good jungle shit fo yo stankin ass.... all the sf jungle headz recognize the sillyness =D DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:18:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4648 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:18:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 4622 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:18:40 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:18:40 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12488 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990423142213.007fd6c0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:22:13 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: re: 4:20 Pre Production Party on Sat.-4.24 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: Jonathan Mack >Subject: 4:20 Pre Production Party on Sat.-4.24 Unfortunate for some, and due to the >'nature' of our Ganja Girls we must make this an 18 or older venue. There >will be a fully stocked bar as well as an assortment of goodies and >aesthetics... > Uhhhh... ganja girls???? 18 and over??? I can see it now... a bunch of women clad only in marjuana leaves.... Is this a rave, a pot-fest, a nudie bar or what??? confused, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:32:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11538 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:32:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 11527 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:32:06 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:32:06 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8044) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJASa02593 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:30:57 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:30:49 EDT Subject: Re: BSP: Groove On Productions presents. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk type o: Science Sorry. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:33:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12820 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:33:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 12804 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:33:29 -0000 Received: from f133.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.12) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:33:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 24690 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 21:32:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423213208.24689.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.249.234.30 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:32:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.249.234.30] From: "P a r i s" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: No More 1200 MK2's Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:32:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just some info for all the technics fans..panasonic makes a 1200mk5.....sssshhhhhhh! it's a secrect.. Dj*Paris* >From: Joe Rice >To: the town drunk >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: No More 1200 MK2's >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:10:36 -0700 > >At 12:01 AM -0800 3/6/99, the town drunk wrote: >>They are gettin' rid of the little green light thingie!?!?! Woo-hoo!!! >>I'm a go eat me some muffins!! I hate that little green light thingie! I >>guess it's ok if you are just listening to regular vinyl like a Black >>Sabbath album or something, but who uses TECHNICS for that? That's beside >>the point. The point is, thank you TECHNICS... and thank you, GOD. >> > >On a recent trip to Tokyo I checked out both the 1200Mk3D and the >1200Mk4. Here's what I determined: > >1200Mk3D - Slightly modified on/off switch and a switch to >engage/disengage the quartz lock at the center, much like the Vestax >decks. The couple of these I saw were silver. > >1200Mk4 - As far as I could tell, the same as the 1200Mk2 [no quartz >lock disengage] but adds 78rpm speed. The one of these I saw was >black. > >Joe > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:34:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13990 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:34:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 13912 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:34:16 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:34:16 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id OAA16320; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:34:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904232134.OAA16320@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: 4:20 Pre Production Party on Sat.-4.24 To: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Carly Bourne) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990423142213.007fd6c0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> from "Carly Bourne" at Apr 23, 99 02:22:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Uhhhh... ganja girls???? 18 and over??? I can see it now... a bunch of > women clad only in marjuana leaves.... Is this a rave, a pot-fest, a nudie > bar or what??? Hopefully all three... ;) -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:35:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14541 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:35:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 14516 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:35:03 -0000 Received: from tele.visi.com (HELO mail-out.visi.com) (209.98.98.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:35:03 -0000 Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67ED51F8BE for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:35:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from diogenes@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05560 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:35:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:35:02 -0500 From: Alex To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: DON'T go see GO Message-ID: <19990423163501.M29023@isis.visi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from MacBunny on Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 12:59:02PM -0400 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well, the portrayal of raves was unlike one i've been to before, but i've never partied outside of the bay, so i figured maybe the LA or New York scene may have related to it better. but that was the worse part of the movie. BUT i laughed my ass off at some scenes in the vegas part. oh well, not to much of a plot, but i don't think that was the intention. it was a fun movie. ;) -alex oh yeah, i just saw the matrix, how right you all were, it was a really fun movie. all i could think of the whole time was descartes and the cogito. ttyl On Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 12:59:02PM -0400, MacBunny wrote: > hello everyone! > > since i saw so many wonderful reviews of the movie GO on this list, i had > to give my opinion. I HATED IT!!! i have never been so bored, so > annoyed, or so anxious for a movie to end as i was while watching this > movie. maybe i had to write this to the list because i saw so many > poeple saying "Go see GO! Go see GO!" and i'm wondering WHY poeple liked > it? the first reason why it disgusted me was the untrue portrayal of > what a rave is. according to this movie, a "rave thing" is a party where > EVERYONE's goal is to get high before hand, and it's just a big sex fest, > as shown on the outside of the warehouse in big letters "Mary Sex-Mas! > Sex Sex Sex!" hello? is anyone else offended? i've stated my opinion > on this subject before, but i'll say it again: the media can either help > or destroy our scene. with exposure like this, the general public can't > help but belive that all the myths about sex and drug fests are true. > i'm won't deny that this type of stuff goes on at parties (it goes on at > ANY kind of music event you go to) BUT... it is NOT the focus of our > scene as others might believe. > > Second: I have never seen some stupider poeple in my life as those > characters in the movie. i like paying $7.50 to see a movie with a plot, > but not this. > > Third: The Quentin Terantino style didn't work for this movie. It just > made me anxiously annoyed to find out the ending, or leave the theatre > (jeremy and i had to leave for a bit to walk around!) > > ok - so now i've said my piece. i really didn't like this movie, but i'd > be curious as to why some of you did. > > much love, > amber > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:36:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15685 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:36:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 15626 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:36:25 -0000 Received: from netcom2.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:36:25 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom2.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id OAA19984; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:36:22 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: re: 4:20 Pre Production Party on Sat.-4.24 To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990423142213.007fd6c0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk watch out Carly, you're going in incur Jonathan Mack's wrath and he'll send you nasty EMAILs about how you don't know about what's going on in Hollywood n'stuff. at least that's what happened to me when i expressed concern over this production. i've found that criticizing this event is not a good idea, even if this part of '420' is a horrible misrepresenation of our scene drawing direct lines between the glorificaiton of illegal drug use and raving. just trust that Jonathan Mack and his crew have their collective finger on the pulse of the American entertainment industry. remember, their crew was behind such blockbuster hits as 'Blade'. i hear they're going to be making a new version of 'Ishtar' next summer too... On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Carly Bourne wrote: > > >From: Jonathan Mack > >Subject: 4:20 Pre Production Party on Sat.-4.24 > > Unfortunate for some, and due to the > >'nature' of our Ganja Girls we must make this an 18 or older venue. There > >will be a fully stocked bar as well as an assortment of goodies and > >aesthetics... > > > > > Uhhhh... ganja girls???? 18 and over??? I can see it now... a bunch of > women clad only in marjuana leaves.... Is this a rave, a pot-fest, a nudie > bar or what??? > > confused, > Carly > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 > BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:50:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24782 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:50:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 24725 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:50:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:50:34 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 264 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:48:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3720EE80.2B25A31B@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:04:48 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: LOOKING FOR INFO: BUS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of anyone that has a bus? ie an old schoolbus, or a bus charter service that is cheap? any info on this would be greatly appreciated! :) thanks johnr From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 21:55:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28163 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 21:55:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 28148 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 21:55:15 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 21:55:15 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (8056) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQEHa02131 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:54:18 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:54:16 EDT Subject: prank To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk cool. i just sat in a closet at school for an hour (40 min after we were supposed to be let out) cuz someone called in and said there was someone on the tennis courts w/ a gun. very fun. some idiot walked out of my classroom in the middle of it cuz he didn't want to be there anymore. i hope he gets expelled, i h8 that guy. >: ( it was really scary though cuz they didn't tell us anything except "code blue. this is a lockdown. everyone get inside you classrooms and lock you doors. " we kept hearing noises like there were people on the roof which freaked me out cuz we have skylights. anyways, sorry guys, i just had to vent. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 22:03:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4512 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 22:03:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 4472 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 22:03:52 -0000 Received: from web201.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.101) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 22:03:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423220334.25066.rocketmail@web201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.241.28.1] by web201.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:03:34 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P S T E R Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: a compilation of @!Where Everyone lives! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I sort of got bored at work and thought this would be a nice little FYI for everyone. If I missed anyone or if anyone would like to be added/deleted to the list. send me an email chep_plur@yahoo.com. I am also in the process of working on an excel spreadsheet. Hopefully with this project we can all find some way to get connected. That is what it's all about. This List is compiled from the info that Peanut5367@aol.com started. C H E P S T E R San Leandro Chep Peanut5367@aol.com Concord Nicole Rum TumTugger Monterey Adam Sharpe Megatron45@aol.com Richmond ? LuSh SnOOpiE SF Lia JUNGurlE@aol.com Sacremento ? Rani Skye Lefevre San Jose/Cupertino ? Laalkuchaa@aol.com Fresno ? Macias20@aol.com San Jose/Santa Clara Valerie TriXXXXe4@aol.com Walnut Creek ? Amber Leahey Menlo Park Menlo Park FReShKiD7@aol.com San Jose San Jose SpinDazE@aol.com SF MoonChyld1@aol.com Castro Valley Tina BigM009@aol.com Salinas/Sacremento ? Fine19boy@aol.com San Mateo ? omz Fifth Floor Luca Mark Hellar SF ? David Ramirez Redwood City David Spiral of Evolution Castro Valley ? Kalika1196@aol.com Novato Trisha SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Neveda/Livermore Sami Aryck46@aol.com San Lorenzo Aryck John Rodriguez Novato John CKchick637@aol.com SF ? Andrew Nourse Santa Cruz Andy Subgucci@aol.com Campbell Alice HiSKiD76@aol.com Newark Cel Gammbino@aol.com Fairfield Kent Holly G. North Bay Holly Charlie Morgan Hill Charlie danny b Berkeley Danny Danny Valverde, Andrew SF Valverde,Andy Candida29@aol.com Redwood City Candy Silvia Schumacher Davis Silvia dadope@juno.com San Jose/Santa Clara Juno What is a dic-so bunny Sacremento Sherri unclenoah Santa Ana ? Andria Maderious Davis Andria Kenneth Zanotto Davis Ken ShockVibe@aol.com Rohnert Park Sean WhrDaMud@aol.com Brentwood Byron Abbo1234@aol.com Elk Grove/Sacremento Abby === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 22:04:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5179 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 22:04:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 5137 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 22:04:42 -0000 Received: from jake-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO jake.excite.com) (198.3.99.221) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 22:04:42 -0000 Received: from pouch.excite.com ([199.172.152.242]) by jake.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990423220413.ORQO1569.jake@pouch.excite.com>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:04:13 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: "Rick" , leslie.ayres@excite.com, "SFRaves" Subject: Re: RE: negative words and violence Message-Id: <924905053.29145.493@excite.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:04:13 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk again, i rant on about this.... on a beautiful friday, legs sore from dancing hard last night at eklektic (for a bit anyway) ... where i danced for those kids and their families, wishing they were able to express their anger and frustration on the dancefloor... it's such a cathartic thing to dance hard, and such a great release and inspiration, i am so thankful to be able to do it... but jedibitch666 said.... > I think the media is picking on an industry that does more good > than harm. parents are the ultimate inlfuence in any kids life. if anyone > or > thing is at fault for a kids actions, it's his parents and how they have > brought > that child up. perhaps i should clarify a couple of things that i believe... maybe it will help show my perspective on this, mr. jedi bitch 666 (lovely name by the way). 1. I do not believe that there is "the media" in this instance... I believe that for the most part (and yes there are areas where the "disinformation" that we receive is calculated to decieve us... in areas primarily of finance and/or politics) but in this instance of the colorodo case, i think "the media" is a huge number of american citizens who are trying to figure this out... 2. I am a parent. Not a perfect one, but a pretty damned good one... and i do not believe parents are the only influences in their kids lives at all... parents can do a lot... but there are so so so many other influences to consider. Parents should never take all the credit, nor should they take all the blame... but yes, they are the most important and steady influence in any person's life. > i love heavy metal. a lot of the bands are "satanic" and > describe > ritual killings and "elder gods" and other bs. do i sacrifice virgin > maidens on a > full moon, trying to summon azazel and his wings of twelve? no. why? > because > i know what's right and what's wrong and what's just bull shit. hmmmm... once again i am stumped when i hear this kind of thing... mr. jedi bitch 666, do you actually and truly believe that music that glamorizes satanic behavior and ritual killings doesn't effect people who listen to it??? maybe you have some sort of disconnect from it, and can appreciate (hmmm) it without incorporating those images into your psyche... but it is very clear that many teenagers in our country cannot.. how do we know? because we see them acting out the lyrics. we see them ritually killing animals, and sometimes even other children. we see them building websites that refer to these words and acts... is this not evidence enough of the potential destructive power of this kind of thing? there is a pattern. recognize it. > rap didn't make me a gangsta. death metal didn't make me worship satan or > some > stupid shit like that. what i am suggesting is that this stuff has made you immune to the true horror of the words and concepts.... and frankly, i don't think you've said much to make me change my mind. > Here's what REALLY pisses me off. Video games are a big thing in my life. > I've been playing games for years. about 2 decades now. my dad got me > started with the commodore 64 and pong. dude... please read my words again... i never said video games are bad... au contraire... video games give a foundation of technological skills for the kids/adults who use them... as well as providing entertainment... what i said was that video games that are based on acting out death and destruction program the user to accept or be immune to acts of death and destruction. duh. garbage in, garbage out. surely there are plenty of very interesting and absorbing video games that can entertain without requiring violent acts. same for violent movies and tv shows. glamorization of blood and guts, worshiping weapons and destruction. it's sick. > society is fucked up if you can, with a clean conscience, blame > the music industry, video games, porn, and world history for these 2 kids > actions. again, perhaps we're talking about different things... i'm talking about the individual responsibility for each and every one of us.... the individuals with brains and hearts and souls .... to take a look at the negative influences that we have in our midst which effect our kids. and once again, "OUR" means each and every one of us... and for each individual to decide not to participate in or promote this sickness. the video game industry already polices itself, and i > think it's > wrong too. again, i am not talking about increasing rules... and i'm talking about increasing awareness, raising our own standards, expecting more from ourselves. i yearn for the day when kids would recoil at violence in lyrics or games or movies, when they really saw how repulsive it is. > And it's our > teachers, parents and adults that really shape how we grow up. like i said > before, > if anyone is to blame, I blame the parents. Adults these days don't spend > enough > time being apart of their child's life. to raise them, to nurture their > dreams and > desires and to shape them into upstanding individuals. Oh, now you say parents and role models CAN shape them into upstanding individuals.... i think you may be contradicting yourself here... a minute ago, each person made their own choices. can we retread a bit... i am saying that to do that, we need to stop feeding our kids heads -- and our own heads -- with violence and twisted shit. and... we are ALL the parents, the teachers, the role models for the kids... we are the village, these are all our children. i know this may seem hard to understand for those of you who are teenagers yourself -- and i know that because i'm older sometimes there is a perception of "us" and "them" as if i'm lecturing or maybe don't understand --.... but i think that if we each take personal responsibility for this, that is the first step to making a positive difference.... because there is only US. Outside influences > can > be detrimental or helpful, depending on how it's handled. exactly.... and when they're detrimental, we need to look at how we can influence change. (snipped a lot here) thanks so much for your graphic sexual "who's your daddy" description... very telling indeed, as is your first word being profanity you say you learned from your parents... i'm not sure whose point that really illustrates... > if you are alluding to the Smack My Bitch Up track from the Prodigy, that is > a > sample. > if I beat up a girl, it'd be my fault, not the Prodigy. me. you are correct, i'm referring to prodigy... and i think their choice to include that sample is shameful... because it glamorizes abuse... kids look up to musicians and entertainers, and they try to emulate them... that is a fact. if you beat a girl up, yes, it's your responsibility, but your threshhold for accepting this in the world around you has been lowered a bit by the fact that prodigy chose to include that sample in that song... and i think we need to ask ourselves why... is it "cool"? is it "tough"? i thinks its sickening. and here's my favorite part of your post... > > It's no real wonder why people shoot people who can't drive. it's > stressful. > it has nothing to do with video games, music, movies or porn. people are > idiots. self-righteous, pompous and stupid. ignorance is bliss. i get > really > pissed driving around the bay area. you know what, i think you have portrayed yourself here as an obnoxious and angry character.... and all my efforts to understand your position were instantly dissipated... because you show youself to be all of the above. of course, your email is jedi bitch 666. > Our legal system seems to support violent behaviour. there are a > lot of things that need to be fixed, i think we should concentrate > on more important things like the fucked up justice system and the > terrible education system we have, rather than attacking music groups, > video games, porn, and movies. those are all valid forms of > ENTERTAINMENT, let's concentrate on EDUCATION. let's concentrate on *everything*... because entertainment and education are often one and the same... you cannot separate the messages received.... your brain takes it all in together... these are all lessons we learn. in a perfect world, the "justice system" would be an internal awareness and commitment to doing the right thing... in a perfect world, o.j. would have confessed and taken his punishment for his horrendous loss of control (or perhaps wouldn't have such anger built up) ... in a perfect world, lorena bobbitt's husband wouldn't have raped her repeatedly, forcing her to return his agression with her own sick act.. in a perfect world, people would have such an aversion to hurting others and acting out of hate, there would be no need for punishment and incarceration... i know we can't create a perfect world, but can't we shift the tides a bit here? > I agree, I think it's important as well. But I think we're pointing the > fingers > at the wrong people. i suggest that each and every one of us point a finger at *ourselves* and see what we can do differently to make changes... to see where we have allowed ourselves to be desensitized, and to bring back our sense of horror at things we have come to accept... like violent lyrics, like violent drivers, like violent video games. i'm willing to hold up that mirror, are you? anyway, please all have a safe and happy weekend, and tell the people you love how you feel, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 22:05:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5638 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 22:05:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 5612 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 22:05:08 -0000 Received: from web217.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 22:05:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423220424.7690.rocketmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.241.28.1] by web217.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:04:24 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:04:24 -0700 (PDT) From: C H E P S T E R Reply-To: chep_plur@yahoo.com Subject: a compilation of @!Where Everyone lives! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I sort of got bored at work and thought this would be a nice little FYI for everyone. If I missed anyone or if anyone would like to be added/deleted to the list. send me an email chep_plur@yahoo.com. I am also in the process of working on an excel spreadsheet. Hopefully with this project we can all find some way to get connected. That is what it's all about. This List is compiled from the info that Peanut5367@aol.com started. C H E P S T E R San Leandro Chep Peanut5367@aol.com Concord Nicole Rum TumTugger Monterey Adam Sharpe Megatron45@aol.com Richmond ? LuSh SnOOpiE SF Lia JUNGurlE@aol.com Sacremento ? Rani Skye Lefevre San Jose/Cupertino ? Laalkuchaa@aol.com Fresno ? Macias20@aol.com San Jose/Santa Clara Valerie TriXXXXe4@aol.com Walnut Creek ? Amber Leahey Menlo Park Menlo Park FReShKiD7@aol.com San Jose San Jose SpinDazE@aol.com SF MoonChyld1@aol.com Castro Valley Tina BigM009@aol.com Salinas/Sacremento ? Fine19boy@aol.com San Mateo ? omz Fifth Floor Luca Mark Hellar SF ? David Ramirez Redwood City David Spiral of Evolution Castro Valley ? Kalika1196@aol.com Novato Trisha SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Neveda/Livermore Sami Aryck46@aol.com San Lorenzo Aryck John Rodriguez Novato John CKchick637@aol.com SF ? Andrew Nourse Santa Cruz Andy Subgucci@aol.com Campbell Alice HiSKiD76@aol.com Newark Cel Gammbino@aol.com Fairfield Kent Holly G. North Bay Holly Charlie Morgan Hill Charlie danny b Berkeley Danny Danny Valverde, Andrew SF Valverde,Andy Candida29@aol.com Redwood City Candy Silvia Schumacher Davis Silvia dadope@juno.com San Jose/Santa Clara Juno What is a dic-so bunny Sacremento Sherri unclenoah Santa Ana ? Andria Maderious Davis Andria Kenneth Zanotto Davis Ken ShockVibe@aol.com Rohnert Park Sean WhrDaMud@aol.com Brentwood Byron Abbo1234@aol.com Elk Grove/Sacremento Abby === In case I don't see you...... good afternoon.... good evening.... good night.... chep_plur@yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 22:17:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21363 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 22:17:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 21341 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 22:17:52 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 22:17:52 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (8056) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDOMa13357 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:16:41 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:16:39 EDT Subject: Re: dive-urgency, all play together & liberty bsp To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to all play together..that is, if i can find a ride! i might end up having to take the bus which would be really scary through the east bay at night. i'm young and small and vulnerable!! eekkkkk!!!!! : ) so if anyone wants to offer me and a friend a ride(it's her birthday!) i would love you! gas money included of course. hope to see everyone there! alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 22:40:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5992 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 22:40:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 5973 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 22:40:48 -0000 Received: from pimout1-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout1-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.58.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 22:40:48 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-11.splitrock.net [209.156.149.126]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA117834; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:40:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3720F639.B5E9D94C@prodigy.net> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:37:46 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: P a r i s CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: No More 1200 MK2's References: <19990423213208.24689.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk P a r i s wrote: > Just some info for all the technics fans..panasonic makes a > 1200mk5.....sssshhhhhhh! it's a secrect.. > Dj*Paris* Panasonic makes Technics. So I'm not sure what this post implies? For everybody here is the current list of 1200 models SL1200MK2 SL1200MK2 (black) SL1200MK3D (New Standard, Pitch Overide Button, Headshell Holder, recessed Power Switch) SL1200MK4 (3 Speeds 33,45,78 ; Black Finish w/gold accents and platinum tonearm and platter, gold plated RCA jacks instead of hardwired RCA's) SL1200MKLTD (Limited edition, shiny smooth black finish, gold platter and tonearm as well as gold highlights, pitch overide button) -peace- Joe Lanzon From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 22:59:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19485 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 22:59:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 19422 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 22:59:18 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 22:59:18 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8W4DSWW; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:58:56 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:15:44 -0700 Subject: Silverpearl = Twilight Zone. Message-ID: <19990418.011549.2678.2.Trigometric@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6-7,12-22 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay. This is by far, one of the strangest experiences in the world. My friend who goes to school down in Long Beach calls me to tell me something interesting. He called his dad who lives in San Lorenzo. When he gets the machine, Eric Spire's voice is on the greeting giving information on where to call and what not. But then, Eric says that if you're trying to reach Jack, my friend's dad's name, that you can reach him at this other number. Here's what I deduce from this. Silverpearl and the gang went to my friend's dad's house and took over his answering machine (510-278-5286). They then gave my friend's dad a new phone number where he can be reached. This is a completely random phenomenon that I have no explanation for. Hey Eric, how did this happen? It's kinda funny and, well, weird too. Hope you're all having a weird day. ; o ) Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 23:05:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23155 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 23:05:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 23126 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 23:05:15 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 23:05:15 -0000 Received: from PlurDealer@aol.com (572) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBMGa06717 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:03:55 -0400 (EDT) From: PlurDealer@aol.com Message-ID: <97054a7a.2452565a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:03:54 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: GO. Why the hell not To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: PlurDealer@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk personally I thought this was a great film. I didn't think it was about raves at all, they had a rave in it but I didn't see any ravers being any of the characters. There was a lot of violence, bit of semi-graphic sex, unintentional arson, a few scenes from a rave, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it was a movie about raves or ravers. PlurDealer From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 23:23:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4912 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 23:23:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 4860 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 23:23:40 -0000 Received: from web217.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 23:23:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423232256.17849.rocketmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.108.36.66] by web217.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:22:56 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:22:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Sensei Subject: Re: sex raves (was NRR: DON'T go see GO) To: MacBunny , Jan Setje-Eilers Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ;)~ There is a sex club in sf for couples and "single" woman ONLY in SF called LUSH... It's a membership type club so that only attractive younger couples are allowed in. PORN stars have come and participated... Anything goes there, except drug use is frowned upon... Sensei "Do not look forward in fear, or back in anger, but around in awareness". --- MacBunny wrote: > > > > I've seen parties pull off variations of sex > themes, mostly in the > house and to some extent in the hard-core realm. So > i did not find that > all that unrealistic. > > > > hmm... and what parties would those be? i'm curious > to know because i've > never been to a party with a sex theme, nor heard of > one. i've heard of > many parties based around drugs (X-cited, go > Emerica, etc.) but never a > sex party. what ones were they? when were they? > where were they? > curious goerge wants to know. > > amber > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know > what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 23 23:29:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6982 invoked by uid 6000); 23 Apr 1999 23:29:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 6972 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1999 23:29:19 -0000 Received: from f38.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 23:29:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 74140 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 23:28:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423232836.74139.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.60 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:28:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.60] From: "dj boywonder" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: SPAM: paging macadio Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:28:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey anyone know how to get ahold of this guy...he left his....well...and i need to get back my...um....hmm...nevermind...i wonder...test results....oh...im rambling....MACADIO WHERE ARE YOU!#%$^$%^ aaron From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 00:00:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23391 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 00:00:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 23381 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 00:00:38 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 00:00:38 -0000 Received: from [216.101.174.4] (HELO warmth.org) by mogwaicom.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 2.9b5) with ESMTP id 614987; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:59:36 -0700 Message-ID: <37210920.A7287518@warmth.org> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:58:25 -0700 From: vipassana Organization: *warmth* productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sensei CC: MacBunny , Jan Setje-Eilers , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: sex raves (was NRR: DON'T go see GO) References: <19990423232256.17849.rocketmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I should get a sex change and go as a single girl....yay maybe I would actually get laid for once!! Matt Sensei wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > ;)~ > > There is a sex club in sf for couples and "single" > woman ONLY in SF called LUSH... > > It's a membership type club so that only attractive > younger couples are allowed in. PORN stars have come > and participated... > > Anything goes there, except drug use is frowned > upon... > > Sensei > > "Do not look forward in fear, or back in anger, but > around in awareness". > > --- MacBunny wrote: > > > > > > > > I've seen parties pull off variations of sex > > themes, mostly in the > > house and to some extent in the hard-core realm. So > > i did not find that > > all that unrealistic. > > > > > > > > hmm... and what parties would those be? i'm curious > > to know because i've > > never been to a party with a sex theme, nor heard of > > one. i've heard of > > many parties based around drugs (X-cited, go > > Emerica, etc.) but never a > > sex party. what ones were they? when were they? > > where were they? > > curious goerge wants to know. > > > > amber > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know > > what you don't know, > > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > > > amber perry-mcquown > > > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > > amber@earthling.net > > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 00:02:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25338 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 00:02:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 25327 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 00:02:09 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 00:02:09 -0000 Received: from MissNexa@aol.com (14417) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGUYa27453 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:01:26 -0400 (EDT) From: MissNexa@aol.com Message-ID: <3abbbe5e.245263d1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:01:21 EDT Subject: Re: las vegas (was NRR: DON'T go see GO) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 120 Reply-To: MissNexa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/23/99 10:19:51 AM PST, nico@entic.net writes: << Sadly ironic these kinds of parties/raves supposedly occur in Las Vegas. There are some prostitutues and dancers that frequent parties and well ... as we all know Vegas is the city of sin ... or something. >> Well, I'll add some truth to that. When I watched the FOX files or something on channel 2, they were doing a segment on all the *partying* that goes on at Las Vegas, and they said that after these two girls (strippers, who were searching all night for recruits and going on stage performing) were done after a long night's work that they go to these *raves* (it looked more like a club, but thats just MHO).. and then showed a nice lil clip of a girl dancing/pouncing/sliding in/on/around a pole. I'm not sure what the club is, but if it's yer boat, someone posted the name of the *club* (apparently someone who knows that place says its a club, not a rave) online.. www.fox.com (i think) after i decided to tell them what a rave IMO was. have a fun and safe weekend people! --> Miss Nexa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 01:46:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 962 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 01:46:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 945 invoked by uid 228); 24 Apr 1999 01:46:47 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:46:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Karina Powers To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: raving geeks (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thought this was a really interesting article. I would recommend reading it...... Raving Geeks Code all day, party all night http://www.sfgate.com/technology/local/ Karina Powers From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 02:14:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7215 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 02:14:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 7205 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 02:14:37 -0000 Received: from f268.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.159) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 02:14:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 75723 invoked by uid 0); 24 Apr 1999 02:14:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990424021410.75722.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:14:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: leslie.ayres@excite.com, rickf@AirLink.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:14:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I just wanted to say, I agree with leslie. But let me tell you why. One day a year or two ago, I was thinking about this "does media influence people's behavior" question, and what settled the question for me was television advertising. Think about it, everybody says movies/tv/video games don't influence people's behavior because "they know it's not real". Well, everyone knows what you see in TV ads is fake, too. Not only that, but everyone knows TV ads are made intentionally to make us spend money, by people who have *their* best interest at heart and not ours, AND are full of spin and half-truths if not outright lies. AND YET TV advertising is unbelievably effective. Ads nowadays are very polished and slick -- subliminal manipulation has become a fine art. Ads don't "control" people but they sure as heck influences people's behavior, without people really even consciously knowing it. Companies simply would not spend billions of dollars on TV ads every year if it didn't influence people. wayne ---------- >From: leslie.ayres@excite.com >To: "Rick" , leslie.ayres@excite.com,"SFRaves" >Subject: Re: RE: negative words and violence >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:04:13 PDT > >again, i rant on about this.... on a beautiful friday, legs sore from >dancing hard last night at eklektic (for a bit anyway) ... where i danced >for those kids and their families, wishing they were able to express their >anger and frustration on the dancefloor... it's such a cathartic thing to >dance hard, and such a great release and inspiration, i am so thankful to be >able to do it... > >but jedibitch666 said.... > >> I think the media is picking on an industry that does more good >> than harm. parents are the ultimate inlfuence in any kids life. if >anyone >> or >> thing is at fault for a kids actions, it's his parents and how they have >> brought >> that child up. > > >perhaps i should clarify a couple of things that i believe... maybe it will >help show my perspective on this, mr. jedi bitch 666 (lovely name by the >way). > >1. I do not believe that there is "the media" in this instance... I believe >that for the most part (and yes there are areas where the "disinformation" >that we receive is calculated to decieve us... in areas primarily of finance >and/or politics) but in this instance of the colorodo case, i think "the >media" is a huge number of american citizens who are trying to figure this >out... > >2. I am a parent. Not a perfect one, but a pretty damned good one... and i >do not believe parents are the only influences in their kids lives at all... >parents can do a lot... but there are so so so many other influences to >consider. Parents should never take all the credit, nor should they take >all the blame... but yes, they are the most important and steady influence >in any person's life. > > >> i love heavy metal. a lot of the bands are "satanic" and >> describe >> ritual killings and "elder gods" and other bs. do i sacrifice virgin >> maidens on a >> full moon, trying to summon azazel and his wings of twelve? no. why? >> because >> i know what's right and what's wrong and what's just bull shit. > >hmmmm... once again i am stumped when i hear this kind of thing... mr. jedi >bitch 666, do you actually and truly believe that music that glamorizes >satanic behavior and ritual killings doesn't effect people who listen to >it??? maybe you have some sort of disconnect from it, and can appreciate >(hmmm) it without incorporating those images into your psyche... but it is >very clear that many teenagers in our country cannot.. how do we know? >because we see them acting out the lyrics. we see them ritually killing >animals, and sometimes even other children. we see them building websites >that refer to these words and acts... is this not evidence enough of the >potential destructive power of this kind of thing? there is a pattern. >recognize it. > >> rap didn't make me a gangsta. death metal didn't make me worship satan >or >> some >> stupid shit like that. > > >what i am suggesting is that this stuff has made you immune to the true >horror of the words and concepts.... and frankly, i don't think you've said >much to make me change my mind. > > >> Here's what REALLY pisses me off. Video games are a big thing in my >life. >> I've been playing games for years. about 2 decades now. my dad got me >> started with the commodore 64 and pong. > >dude... please read my words again... i never said video games are bad... au >contraire... video games give a foundation of technological skills for the >kids/adults who use them... as well as providing entertainment... what i >said was that video games that are based on acting out death and destruction >program the user to accept or be immune to acts of death and destruction. >duh. garbage in, garbage out. surely there are plenty of very interesting >and absorbing video games that can entertain without requiring violent >acts. > >same for violent movies and tv shows. glamorization of blood and guts, >worshiping weapons and destruction. it's sick. > > >> society is fucked up if you can, with a clean conscience, blame >> the music industry, video games, porn, and world history for these 2 kids >> actions. > >again, perhaps we're talking about different things... i'm talking about the >individual responsibility for each and every one of us.... the individuals >with brains and hearts and souls .... to take a look at the negative >influences that we have in our midst which effect our kids. and once again, >"OUR" means each and every one of us... and for each individual to decide >not to participate in or promote this sickness. > > >the video game industry already polices itself, and i >> think it's >> wrong too. > >again, i am not talking about increasing rules... and i'm talking about >increasing awareness, raising our own standards, expecting more from >ourselves. > >i yearn for the day when kids would recoil at violence in lyrics or games or >movies, when they really saw how repulsive it is. > >> And it's our >> teachers, parents and adults that really shape how we grow up. like i >said >> before, >> if anyone is to blame, I blame the parents. Adults these days don't >spend >> enough >> time being apart of their child's life. to raise them, to nurture their >> dreams and >> desires and to shape them into upstanding individuals. > >Oh, now you say parents and role models CAN shape them into upstanding >individuals.... i think you may be contradicting yourself here... a minute >ago, each person made their own choices. > >can we retread a bit... i am saying that to do that, we need to stop feeding >our kids heads -- and our own heads -- with violence and twisted shit. >and... we are ALL the parents, the teachers, the role models for the kids... >we are the village, these are all our children. > >i know this may seem hard to understand for those of you who are teenagers >yourself -- and i know that because i'm older sometimes there is a >perception of "us" and "them" as if i'm lecturing or maybe don't understand >--.... but i think that if we each take personal responsibility for this, >that is the first step to making a positive difference.... because there is >only US. > >Outside influences >> can >> be detrimental or helpful, depending on how it's handled. > >exactly.... and when they're detrimental, we need to look at how we can >influence change. > >(snipped a lot here) > >thanks so much for your graphic sexual "who's your daddy" description... >very telling indeed, as is your first word being profanity you say you >learned from your parents... i'm not sure whose point that really >illustrates... > >> if you are alluding to the Smack My Bitch Up track from the Prodigy, that >is >> a >> sample. >> if I beat up a girl, it'd be my fault, not the Prodigy. me. > >you are correct, i'm referring to prodigy... and i think their choice to >include that sample is shameful... because it glamorizes abuse... kids look >up to musicians and entertainers, and they try to emulate them... that is a >fact. if you beat a girl up, yes, it's your responsibility, but your >threshhold for accepting this in the world around you has been lowered a bit >by the fact that prodigy chose to include that sample in that song... and i >think we need to ask ourselves why... is it "cool"? is it "tough"? i >thinks its sickening. > > >and here's my favorite part of your post... >> >> It's no real wonder why people shoot people who can't drive. it's >> stressful. >> it has nothing to do with video games, music, movies or porn. people are >> idiots. self-righteous, pompous and stupid. ignorance is bliss. i get >> really >> pissed driving around the bay area. > >you know what, i think you have portrayed yourself here as an obnoxious and >angry character.... and all my efforts to understand your position were >instantly dissipated... because you show youself to be all of the above. of >course, your email is jedi bitch 666. > > >> Our legal system seems to support violent behaviour. there are a >> lot of things that need to be fixed, i think we should concentrate >> on more important things like the fucked up justice system and the >> terrible education system we have, rather than attacking music groups, >> video games, porn, and movies. those are all valid forms of >> ENTERTAINMENT, let's concentrate on EDUCATION. > >let's concentrate on *everything*... because entertainment and education are >often one and the same... you cannot separate the messages received.... your >brain takes it all in together... these are all lessons we learn. > >in a perfect world, the "justice system" would be an internal awareness and >commitment to doing the right thing... in a perfect world, o.j. would have >confessed and taken his punishment for his horrendous loss of control (or >perhaps wouldn't have such anger built up) ... in a perfect world, lorena >bobbitt's husband wouldn't have raped her repeatedly, forcing her to return >his agression with her own sick act.. in a perfect world, people would have >such an aversion to hurting others and acting out of hate, there would be no >need for punishment and incarceration... > >i know we can't create a perfect world, but can't we shift the tides a bit >here? > >> I agree, I think it's important as well. But I think we're pointing the >> fingers >> at the wrong people. > >i suggest that each and every one of us point a finger at *ourselves* and >see what we can do differently to make changes... to see where we have >allowed ourselves to be desensitized, and to bring back our sense of horror >at things we have come to accept... like violent lyrics, like violent >drivers, like violent video games. > >i'm willing to hold up that mirror, are you? > >anyway, please all have a safe and happy weekend, and tell the people you >love how you feel, > >leslie > > > > > >Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 02:31:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12843 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 02:31:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 12834 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 02:31:31 -0000 Received: from f216.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.107) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 02:31:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 28447 invoked by uid 0); 24 Apr 1999 02:31:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990424023103.28446.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:31:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: raving geeks (read!) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:31:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is really cool! Thanks for posting this...to everyone else: Read this, it's pretty well done! Sharpe >Thought this was a really interesting article. I would recommend reading it...... Raving Geeks Code all day, party all night http://www.sfgate.com/technology/local/ Karina Powers From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 03:48:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1408 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 03:48:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 1395 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 03:48:30 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 03:48:30 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8XLXBKQ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:48:08 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:51:43 -0700 Subject: formula Message-ID: <19990423.205146.-141071.1.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-3 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I seem to have mislplaced tha flyer. Does anyone know when it is or can give me an info #? Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 04:57:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17365 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 04:57:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 17349 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 04:57:42 -0000 Received: from web508.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 04:57:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990424050013.12384.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.239.197.188] by web508.yahoomail.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:00:13 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:00:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Holly G." Subject: Re: raving geeks (read!) To: Rum TumTugger , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Thanks, I read it and it's one of the few articles of our scene that I've enjoyed reading. I detected some respect for the community. peace, Holly g. --- Rum TumTugger wrote: > This is really cool! Thanks for posting this...to > everyone else: Read > this, it's pretty well done! > Sharpe > > > >Thought this was a really interesting article. I > would recommend > reading > it...... > > Raving Geeks > Code all day, party all night > http://www.sfgate.com/technology/local/ > > Karina Powers > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 05:00:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18620 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 05:00:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 18606 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 05:00:10 -0000 Received: from web508.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.75) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 05:00:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990424050242.12597.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.239.197.188] by web508.yahoomail.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:02:42 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:02:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Holly G." Subject: Re: a compilation of @!Where Everyone lives! To: chep_plur@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Chepster, Thank you for the list. It's interesting to see where some of us are from. This can be a great carpooling list :-) A spreadsheet huh? Wow, I'm impressed! Holly g. --- C H E P S T E R wrote: > I sort of got bored at work and thought this would > be > a nice little FYI for everyone. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 05:23:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25896 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 05:23:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 25878 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 05:23:48 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 05:23:48 -0000 Received: from [209.24.165.81] (dynamic17.pm06.san-jose.best.com [209.24.165.81]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id WAA15570 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:22:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: madmacks@shell4.ba.best.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:19:43 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jonathan Mack Subject: SOS-4:20 PARTY IS IN JEOPARDY!!! Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Attention SfRavers, I am putting out an SOS on sfraves because our venue is trying to pull out of its contract for tomorrow night! Our venue operators decided to sell their venue for two parties the same night and were unable to move either one. I have desperately tried to work with them but it seems that they are more worried about trying to cover up there mistakes than help. After pulling all the strings I had to get this many people involved with this party; It seems that now 4:20 does not have a venue for its party on Saturday. With all the effort and people behind 4:20 I am reluctant to pull the plug on this party. I know it can still be a fat party BUT... IF WE CAN NOT FIND A NEW VENUE BY NOON TOMORROW WE WILL BE FORCED TO COMBINE IT WITH OUR FOLLOW UP PARTY ON MAY 21ST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am hoping that perhaps someone may know of a place that can be booked for tomorrow night. If so please email me directly or leave a message after the number 415.331.1500 x420 Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Jonathan Mack From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 06:09:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5896 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 06:09:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 5879 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 06:09:47 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 06:09:47 -0000 Received: from Derderf3@aol.com (7815) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 8SYDa02593; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:04:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Derderf3@aol.com Message-ID: <5c4888e4.2452b907@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:04:55 EDT Subject: Re: sex raves (was NRR: DON'T go see GO) To: nico@entic.net CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Derderf3@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/23/99 11:19:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, nico@entic.net writes: << sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org >> welll the rave i went to in vegas was short of a jr high school party (with much better music).. the crowd was kewl and all.. but the "scene" could have been better... but that may have been just because it was in a club (they rented out the club)... But hey.. i ain't gunna knock it.. there are some fun people who live in vegas... i wish i could show they whats here in the bay... a vegas rave would have a WHOLE new meaning.... Smyl-E From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 16:19:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5873 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 16:19:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 5760 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 16:19:16 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 16:19:16 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (8021) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3EZPa02599 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:18:48 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <84d18712.245348e2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:18:42 EDT Subject: Where's teknodiva? Party tonite.... To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK... time to play again.... this time... I'm not even going to tell you what party I'm going to be at... but if you want to play, you know the rules! Just find me and say hi. HEre's your hint for the night...... I'll be wearing a white dress (at least for a little while and then I'm going to change) if you find me you win.. A HUG! ok.. well that's something special... I know I'd like to win it. OK!! Go to it, party safe and enjoy the sunshine! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "BE A PART... STAND APART." --puscha meets trade, Ibiza "Put on my raving shoes and I stepped on a plane, touched down in a land where the sky was blue, in the middle of the pouring rain...." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 17:39:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4687 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 17:39:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4677 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 17:39:01 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 17:39:01 -0000 Received: from Fiercefigs@aol.com (14460) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNFHa03465 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:38:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Fiercefigs@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:38:21 EDT Subject: Diveurgency? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: Fiercefigs@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey it's a beautiful day*** I'm going to go check out Central Park this afternoon then head over to Diveurgency later this evening Anybody else? fiona From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 18:09:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14865 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 18:09:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 14857 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 18:09:23 -0000 Received: from wya-oe2.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 18:09:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 58876 invoked by uid 0); 24 Apr 1999 18:10:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990424181022.58875.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.211.27 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:10:21 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.211.27] From: "Justin Hale" To: Fiercefigs@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Diveurgency? Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:10:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk central park is right by my house, it's really nice outside. i think i might walk over.... justin >From: Fiercefigs@aol.com >Reply-To: Fiercefigs@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Diveurgency? >Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:38:21 EDT > >Hey it's a beautiful day*** >I'm going to go check out Central Park this afternoon then head over to >Diveurgency later this evening >Anybody else? >fiona From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 18:10:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15855 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 18:10:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 15838 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 18:10:50 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 18:10:50 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (553) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUIa026761; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:10:07 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: <2552034c.245362f1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:09:53 EDT Subject: people hurt at rave To: Derderf3@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, nico@entic.net CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i got home this morning and my mom heard on the radio a whole bunch of people were hurt at a rave last night. some dance stage collapsed or something. this is only what i heard-im not sure whats true or not. anybody know whats up or which party it was? -ever. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 18:15:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17485 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 18:15:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 17458 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 18:15:26 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 18:15:26 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (553) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTYPa13190; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:14:33 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: <2172b464.24536407@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:14:31 EDT Subject: Re: ALL play TOGETHER??? To: SnShYn30@aol.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk all ive heard is some place in downtown oakland...a small location so dont trip about it being at 2nd.... -ever. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 18:17:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19439 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 18:17:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 19419 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 18:17:30 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 18:17:30 -0000 Received: from Squisheart@aol.com (540) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXHSa02593; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:16:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Squisheart@aol.com Message-ID: <4384804f.2453644b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:15:39 EDT Subject: Re: Diveurgency? To: Fiercefigs@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Squisheart@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk how cute two love birds From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 19:03:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5691 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 19:03:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 5683 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 19:03:40 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 19:03:40 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14420) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tECKa23194; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:01:14 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <1d927303.24536ef7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:01:11 EDT Subject: Re: sex raves (was NRR: DON'T go see GO) To: akp2@duke.edu, setje@lunatic.org CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WhrDaMud@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have been to "sex Parties" before but that was in the mid 80's they were called FADS it is a UG party with all the techno and you leave your cloths at the door, and when you walk in u r handed a box of condoms they were mostly happen' in Wash. Seattle to b exact aaaaahhhh to remember the time of long ago Love and light, Hi Tech Redneck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 19:18:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12047 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 19:18:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 12039 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 19:18:22 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 19:18:22 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14420) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rVRTa18507; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:17:36 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:17:30 EDT Subject: can u hook me up with.....( @!Where Everyone lives!) To: holly_g_61@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WhrDaMud@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the compilation / spreadsheet of where every one lives???? i didn't get it thank you From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 19:28:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14520 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 19:28:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14512 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 19:28:08 -0000 Received: from web301.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 19:28:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990424193038.4208.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.12.63] by web301.yahoomail.com; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:30:38 PDT Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:30:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: EyeCandy Introduction & Personal Visual Evolution ('76-'99)- Part 1 To: eyecandy@egroups.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Thanks for the invitation to join Eyecandy, I am looking forward to making a positive contribution. I have also forwarded this post to sfraves as it should be of interest to all those fine folks. I have been doing this for some time all over the world so many of you know me already (especially in the U.S. & U.K.) but for those who don't here is my story so far (Short Version!). In the emerging dance underground of London (In the mid-Seventies)I used to promote all night events that combined Ja. style Turntable/SoundSystem action, Funk, Emerging Elektro (Kraftwerk etc) & anything else with the heaviest beats & spaciest production we could find. As a Hobby I did a primitive 60s style Lightshow for these events as a side to my DJing. My show differed from the norm as I used Projectors in pairs (Like Turntables) with original animation etc. so we could cue contrasting looks - providing a small measure of Interactivity ... I worked as a touring roadie at that time and Collected Music films and shot a lot of material on B/W 1/2' Video. A year or so later I was employed as house DJ at a club called DINGWALLS in London and was constantly pushing to develop visuals for the club (Betamax had just come out)... Eventually they caved in and we installed a permanent Video system (The early Battles to establish the form would make an interesting thread by itself!)... To differentiate Video art from TV (Which was most peoples point of reference)We constantly were creating new & original material (`Found footage' was considered a taboo cop-out as we were on a mission to establish a new rebel medium with its own aesthetic & mythology) using cel animation & abusing access to an Evans & Sutherland Mainframe (The Apple2 was still years away)... Many promoters from all over the world came to see what we were up to and pretty soon I was flying all over consulting on video installations and training crews, eventually moving to New York where I worked at such venues as the Peppermint Lounge,Interferon & Studio 54, While directing Commercials, Art pieces and Music Videos. Historically it was an exciting time as HipHop Culture was just making it's first steps outside of the ghetto ... To us English Kids in New York it was a natural evolution from the Reggae SoundSystems we danced to back in the U.K. When I first came to California it was to direct a small package of videos for an Independent Label... I was suprised to find that in the home of the traditional LightShow there was no activity in this new area (The dozen or so video projectors available to rent instate all carried five figure rental fees). So before long I was flying Eidophors in from New York serving this new emerging market... Eventually settling in S.F. .... But there was one big problem , Turntable culture was almost non existant in Ca. at that time .... Something needed to be done.... (To be Continued) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 19:41:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18438 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 19:41:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 18428 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 19:41:53 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 19:41:53 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA17356 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:41:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mon-ca9-29.ix.netcom.com(206.216.188.157) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017335; Sat Apr 24 14:41:00 1999 Message-ID: <3721B3A0.5710@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:05:52 +0000 From: Jennifer and Daniel Herron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: dive-urgency, all play together & liberty bsp References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah! Another fellow b'day girl!! I hope I'll have everybody celebrating with me at All Play Together after midnight when I turn yet another year closer to 30. AHHHHHH! Jennifer aka Chrysallys P.S Anyone else going? Haven't seen too many people say they were going. We'll have a crew of 16 peeps there :) OXnymphXO@aol.com wrote: > > I'm going to all play together..that is, if i can find a ride! i might end up > having to take the bus which would be really scary through the east bay at > night. i'm young and small and vulnerable!! eekkkkk!!!!! : ) so if anyone > wants to offer me and a friend a ride(it's her birthday!) i would love you! > gas money included of course. hope to see everyone there! > > alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 19:56:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22374 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 19:56:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 22361 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 19:56:37 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 19:56:37 -0000 Received: from Derderf3@aol.com (7982) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uNRJa25233; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:55:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Derderf3@aol.com Message-ID: <5b6f152f.24537bb9@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:55:37 EDT Subject: Re: dive-urgency, all play together & liberty bsp To: whtrabt@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: Derderf3@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HAPPY B-day!!... i have a present for you then... come find me at the rave... (as i have said before... look for the balloons...) See ya there!!! Smyl-E From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 20:03:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24807 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 20:03:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24797 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 20:03:35 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 20:03:35 -0000 Received: from KaNdeEKlD@aol.com (226) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYJYa23607 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:02:30 -0400 (EDT) From: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Message-ID: <900bc8c6.24537d55@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:02:29 EDT Subject: Allone To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: KaNdeEKlD@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ANY ONE GOING TO THIS TO NITE? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 20:08:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27124 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 20:08:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 27113 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 20:08:43 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 20:08:43 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (218) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3PBPa13189 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:07:27 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:07:23 EDT Subject: WHy? WHy Why? (krr) To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WHy must everyone ask where a party is going to be at in the middle of the week? Usually a promoter will say things like "BART Accessible, east bay, new south bay location, etc" If you needed to know anything more than that they'd tell you. Of course if the party is at Second and Jackson or Homebass, it's a given, but telling everyone where the location is can cause mad problems and busts.... (even if it is a permitted space sometimes.. having masses of kids show up is no good). Can't you just call the voicemail on the night of just like everyone else?? if you've already got a ticket you don't need to stress so much. Ten bucks says you're the kids that bought out presales a week before the party. whatever happend to laggers rave?? You trained me for three years to stop being ontime and now you fuck with my head by stressing over getting to a party! It is just a party.. DOn't stress!! and on that note.> I'm going to take a midday nap! hugs n'stuff, trice the teknodiva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 20:20:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 535 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 20:20:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 527 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 20:20:53 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd97.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.161) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 20:20:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 41191 invoked by uid 0); 24 Apr 1999 20:20:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990424202026.41190.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.197.203 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:20:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.197.203] From: "sHaWn ." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Digital Dreams review Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:20:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk First of all I would like to thank the Harmony crew for coming out last night and throwin down mad beats all night and morning. The party was pretty dope the Fuz.e room was a little boring and lacking energy besides when Billy Lane and Dre were going off!!! and simon apex and Dna were spinning. It was a cool location(Air Force Base) besides the fact the Police were more like Gustapo's busting kids left and right. First time I've seen the cops crack down like that in days. Hope everyone had fun that came to sac last night. Now i must sleep. ShAwN From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 20:35:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4858 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 20:35:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 4850 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 20:35:27 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 20:35:27 -0000 Received: from [209.157.116.202] (dynamic10.pm20.san-jose.best.com [209.157.116.202]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id NAA19448 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:34:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: madmacks@shell4.ba.best.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:31:52 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jonathan Mack Subject: 4:20 party POSTPONED UNTIL MAY Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dear sfravers, I am reluctant to say that our venue has fallen through at the last minute and forced us to cancel our Saturday night party. I apologize for any inconveniences that this may have caused any of you and for those of you who did purchase a ticket, you can return them tomorrow where you bought it to receive a refund. We are also working on a coupon worth ten dollars off our next venue for those who were inconvenienced with this unforeseen problem. In all we thought that this deal was bullet proof, our venue had the proper permitting and we had a secure contract. On Wednesday, we discovered that this venue had contracted another event as well as ours for the SAME night. After they realized they couldn't get out of the first event they illegally have backed out on our contract. We had put a lot of time and effort into making this party a success. It is very devastating to know that even with a contract an event can fall through. We are trying to still have our second party on May 21st. For this event, we more than likely plan to use a key event coordinator whos reputation and history of putting on events is impeccable. We are determined to get this production off the ground... Just like Pato and Roger, We'll never give in! Sincerely, Jonathan Mack From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 20:47:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9127 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 20:47:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 9118 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 20:47:49 -0000 Received: from law2-f197.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.197) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 20:47:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 72050 invoked by uid 0); 24 Apr 1999 20:47:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990424204722.72049.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:47:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "didu hearthat" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: found my placement in the bassment(bsp) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:47:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk slap...waaaahhhhhh! that's the sound of a new born poster here to this fine list. my name is rashida, and i like to sing. :D i'm also known as mc angel. (book me! 415.273.4649) i promote Density (d-n-b/ jungle/ breaks/ turntablism every monday @ the justice league, sf) anyway i hope everyone is enjoying the beautiful weather. i just had to send my first post about last night at the bassment. (d-n-b/jungle every friday @ 1015 folsom, sf...go kristin...it's ya birthday). what an amazing night. footloose finally rocked that place to it's full potential, i think that's the first time i've ever stayed there until 4 am. plus!!! he flew in this amazing woman, Miss T, from philly. so dammit talented. she sang. she emceed.(sp?) and was really goofy and funny as well (like me) with a great knowledge of music. ( i think we were discussing moby and toto afterwards...wah!) so listen out more for her. and lastly, hold on, i'm backing the truck in...dooot...dooot...ok, you can dump the props for mc duh over here!!! KACHUNK!! oh my gawd. i'm sorry, i could go on and on, but i'll just say it once, he's the shit and he loves this music and it's just inspires me so much. shoosh! it only goes up from here. ok ya'll. so this is labeled (bsp) as probably most of my posts will be cause i hafta promote me and my singing and this scene that i am in love with. so tonight there's so much to do, but here's some fun options (especially if you wanna check which wig is coming out to play). ZEBRA RECORDS DJ SHOWCASE & FINALS (on Sun 4/25)... Justice League (628 Divis @ Hayes, SF) Hip Hop, Turnatablism call 415.289.2038 and hear me dropping all the deejays and info! lot's of good shit. (21+up) PHUNCKATECK...111 Minna (SF) 10PM It's the Green 006 Record Release for wonder woman Sage! yay! with many other phunckateck djs spinning the hardest d-n-b and jungle. (21+up) DUBPHONIC...78 Minna aka Rico's (SF) 10PM Jamalski and Mr. Brown bringing all the funky styles: Jungle, D-N-B, Breaks, Hip Hop, more (18+up, i think) DEVASTATEMENT...Cafe du Nord (2170 Market@Sanchez) 10PM Vertigo (purveyors of fine beach parties) presents D-N-B and downtempo call 415 339 8688 (21+up) GALACTIC PLAYERS...The Anon Salon (285 9th St.) 10PM City of Night presents Children of Paradise (formerly Beyond Race) felix the dog, darkhose, gray-v, aide...they'll have SUSHI!!! $10 Sheesh! and then don't forget about SUNDAY! ENDEAVOR ...location (TBA call 415 212 0352) had to big up my favorite goofball RUE! plus Star Eyes who knocked us all out on thursday @ eklektik! LASTLY...cause who knows if i'll ever post be back with this much info! EVERY MONDAY! Density! (21+ up) This weeks R.A.W. show has been postponed to May 31. But come and play anyway. always. always. So check out this monday TIK TAK, AL SIMMONS, J BOOGIE, TAKA ... Check out Doc Scott w/ JUJU & NOEL on 5/03. CO3 from Moonshoe Guild records (Rasa, Alexis and MC3DTea & Mc Angel ...wooohoo, my crew!) with AL SIMMONS & TIK TAK on 5/10. MICKEY FINN w/ J BOOGIE on 5/17. SWINGSETT and AURAL B on 5/24. R.A.W. 5/31 KUNK FU KNOWLEDGE TOUR 99!!! in honor of the beautiful Skylar Ringland! call for the phat line-up 425.332.5800. Weds. 4/28! @ The DNA Lounge 375 11th Street. 10-3!!! 21+up. Also @ DNA! Density, Release & Levi's bring you 4 Hero featuring Mark & Dego w/ Stretch and Al Simmons doors at 8PM. call 415.289.2038. alright party people. i'm out. i'm partick. i'm swayze. peace and more than love than you can imagine, rashida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 21:26:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21182 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 21:26:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 21174 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 21:26:40 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 21:26:40 -0000 Received: from CanContrl@aol.com (14396) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iEWRa27882; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:09:31 -0400 (EDT) From: CanContrl@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:09:28 EDT Subject: Re: Diveurgency?ummm To: simplycosmic@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: CanContrl@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk how can it be warmer in SF than san mateo???..wow..thats a first..i cant even walk outside the wind will push me down..freakin branches,leaves,garbage,cows,and little children are flying all over the place..oh well..i smoked a cig. and got two hits off of it because it was so windy.. << central park is right by my house, it's really nice outside. i think i might walk over.... justin >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 21:27:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22475 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 21:27:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 22464 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 21:27:45 -0000 Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.187) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 21:27:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990424213630.781.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.36.254.74] by web305.yahoomail.com; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:36:30 PDT Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:36:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Promoters!-Great Deal on XtraVisuals for tonight! (4/24) - To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The event I was booked to do Visuals for tonight got postponed, but I already have rented a Video Projector (& more stuff)... So it isn't a total waste I am offering promoters who might want some extra visuals my gear and services for $100-$150 for tonight only! (The Projector alone costs $275 to rent) - I am doing this partly to help defray my costs (I can't afford the loss) , but mainly to turn people on to the intense new material I have put together recently (Plus I had my heart set on Dancing & Arting the Night away)... The projector can cover 40 feet (Diag.) in a semidark room but can Zoom down tight for smaller rooms... My new material is mainly appropriate for Drum& Bass, Trance or House but I have Tons of different styles in my original library. Set up is real Quick with this rig (I set it up in 25 minutes for the On The One/Joe Clausell party last Thursday). Hope someone can make use of me & my gear so the Weekend isn't a total loss ... My phone # is 415 468 8572 ... Email me at stefango@yahoo.com ...Try to reach me before 9pm if possible.If you get hold of me early enough I am willing to do some custom logos or images for your event... I am definitely set to visually rock someone's Party tonight, I hope I get the opportunity, All the Best, Stefan === From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 21:28:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22824 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 21:28:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 22789 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 21:28:00 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 21:28:00 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03758 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990424141935.0076019c@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:19:40 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: BSP: Outer Space Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk from the creators of Labyrinth of Lust... MAY 1, 1999 Cloyne Court Presents: OUTER SPACE a three-room journey to the farthest reaches of the universe. Room 1: Warp Zone 725 (Kuang Mark, XI) Eli B. (Sabotage) gEoff ;) (Stargaze Family SF) Ryan Christopher M.A.K. Audio transmission by Math Sound Workshop. Visual contact by Math Sound and Kuang Mark XI. Room 2: Neutral Zone Optic (Isolate Records) Skye (Stargaze Family SF) Ithur (h.o.d.s.) Dave Brown (Potwash of Love) Blacklight Dave (Illumin8 Records) Sonic alignment by Stuff. Room 3: Zero Gravity Rock n' Roll The Paul Moody Experience The Cuts The Subtonix The Red Stars The Knockups District 17 8pm - 1am. $4. 18+ or Cal ID. 100% secure East Bay location. Free refreshments. Navigational Instructions: (415) 267-3930 ------------------------------- "i scream so much. you know what i mean. this electric stream. and my tears in league with the wires and energy and my machine." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 22:00:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4942 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 22:00:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 4917 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:00:31 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:00:31 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3936) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFNa018652 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:59:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <4c2d3d38.245398cf@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:59:43 EDT Subject: Re: 4:20 party POSTPONED UNTIL MAY To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/24/99 1:35:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, madmacks@best.com writes: << We are trying to still have our second party on May 21st. For this event, we more than likely plan to use a key event coordinator whos reputation and history of putting on events is impeccable. >> 4 Freedom 4 Liberty 4 Justice 4 Wait a minute! Isn't that the weekend episode 1 comes out?!?!? 4:Episode 1 God I'm a bastard. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 22:11:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8946 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 22:11:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 8932 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:11:43 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:11:43 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com (2616) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYAUa00528 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:10:39 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: <223fac1f.24539b4a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:10:18 EDT Subject: All One? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Reply-To: JanetBoy7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/24/99 9:03:43 PM, KaNdeEKlD@aol.com writes: <> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 22:17:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11086 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 22:17:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 11056 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:17:30 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:17:30 -0000 Received: from [209.209.15.152] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10bAjn-0001DI-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:17:27 -0700 Message-ID: <001001be8e9f$7253ee80$980fd1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: "SFRaves" Subject: Looking for my lost love... PLEASE READ NRR FUN RELATED Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:11:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi. Resently something terrible happened to me. I was mountain biking and i fell and i broke my both wrists. This is very hard for me cuz i used to masturbate a lot and now i cant!!! I am in pain. I am looking for a guy/girl in the Bay Area who are soft, loving and funny. I want a relation with somebody cuz i cant be on self service for a while. Me. Well... BLond, blue eyes, earrings, clean shaven....i will send you a pic of me as soon as I start getting responses. p.s. RFSondaerev'Isliam-eehtfoonenoydorapasisihT. ,evol htiW xaM From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 22:24:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13584 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 22:24:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 13572 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:24:02 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:24:02 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14416) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAFGa16596 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <7cf5f08c.24539e0a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:22:02 EDT Subject: tickets for all play together To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh my god, does anybody have any extra tickets for all play together????!!!!! the person who was supposed to get mine flaked and it is sold out now!!!!!!! or maybe if someone could be so generous as to pick me up some from harmonics in santa rosa(they still have some there) i would love you to death and give ya a couple bux for it! e-mail me privately. thank you sooo much!!! i have my fingers crossed. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 22:41:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20732 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 22:41:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 20721 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:41:49 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:41:49 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14416) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCBQa20194 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:41:09 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <839c041a.2453a283@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:41:07 EDT Subject: sold out To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh no....i just called f8 and they said that it is sold out everywhere. god i feel like crying. mostly because my it's my friend's sweet sixteen so i wanted to take her out and party. damn, i wanted to go sooooo bad! well like i posted before, if anyone has extra tickets, e-mail me. *sob* alida :.. ( From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 22:46:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21853 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 22:46:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 21845 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:46:16 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:46:16 -0000 Received: from Derderf3@aol.com (320) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGWWa18507; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:45:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Derderf3@aol.com Message-ID: <1943e2e4.2453a388@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:45:28 EDT Subject: Re: tickets for all play together To: OXnymphXO@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Reply-To: Derderf3@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I second that.. any that wwish to sell any tickes page me!!! i need 2 tickets... will pay $25 each.... I did how ever find out harmonics does have 30 tickets left.. but harmonics is closed (the owners/workers didn't come in.. were crackd out from digital)... if any one is willing to wait there at the door.. I will pay them $$$$ for the tickets.... Derf 408-407-9157 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 22:49:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23276 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 22:49:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 23268 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 22:49:05 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 22:49:05 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (14416) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUDAa03466 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:48:24 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <60bb1910.2453a42e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:48:14 EDT Subject: tickets for all play together To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh yeah, duh silly me, i forgot to mention that we are willing to pay extra too. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 23:11:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 409 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 23:11:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 401 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 23:11:53 -0000 Received: from argyreia.nervosa.sf.ca.us (clayne@207.95.116.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 23:11:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (clayne@localhost) by argyreia.nervosa.sf.ca.us (8.9.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA23780 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clayne@nervosa.sf.ca.us) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:12:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Layne To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Digweed? Message-ID: X-Mailer: Atari 2600 mail (blistered-thumb version) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So correct me if I am wrong here, but was Digweed even _at_ 1015 last night (4/23)? If so, what time did he start? -cl From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 23:15:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1991 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 23:15:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 1981 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 23:15:01 -0000 Received: from cafe.berkeley.edu (@128.32.160.229) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 23:15:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (kimh@localhost) by cafe.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA07395; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:17:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim Hahn To: Chris Layne cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Digweed? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, played from 1-4am and he was f**king incredible! :) -k On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Chris Layne wrote: > So correct me if I am wrong here, but was Digweed even _at_ 1015 last > night (4/23)? If so, what time did he start? > > -cl > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Kim Hahn (KH) | "Opportunity is missed by most kimh@cafe.berkeley.edu | people because it is dressed http://cafe.berkeley.edu/~kimh | in overalls and looks like | work." | -Thomas Edison ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 23:29:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6062 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 23:29:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 5957 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 23:29:05 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?/Tm/ZDeBa/NA6bWjfetGa995yHIZaajr?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 23:29:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA12188 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:29:04 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:29:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 1015 last night Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Flux and Footloose straight up rinsed it. Emi and Tommi and I decided that was the perfect way to go to 1015. Walk up, not have to wait in line, walk straight downstairs, stay down there until there is no more drum&bass, walk upstairs, walk out leave. boh boh boh! props to kristin the DJ Siren for making it happen, Flux, Footloose and Mis-Ty for representing, rashida for being the champion she is, Stickman, Deepbeep, all crew de crew. 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Apr 24 23:48:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10431 invoked by uid 6000); 24 Apr 1999 23:48:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 10419 invoked from network); 24 Apr 1999 23:48:20 -0000 Received: from smtp5.mindspring.com (207.69.200.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 1999 23:48:20 -0000 Received: from sfsrv (user-33qsqb7.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.105.103]) by smtp5.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA30784; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001301be8eae$0c281640$6769aec7@sfsrv> From: "Michael Bruton" To: "SF Dance Movement at large" Subject: Collapsed floor - last night Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:56:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Rumour has it that there was a tragic event last night; The 2nd floor at a two-story party collapsed; it didn't sound like anyone died, but there were many injuries. Please, please, take a moment and say a silent prayer for these folks; this could have happened to any of us. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 00:03:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14029 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 00:03:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 14019 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 00:03:41 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 00:03:41 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8001) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3XCAa23194 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:02:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <5ac9f16f.2453b57c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:02:04 EDT Subject: Digital Dreams. . . bad ass. . . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wow. . . I haven't been to a party like that in a while. . . I'm all used to nearly passing out from heat and not being able to breathe, and not really being able to dance how I want to. This party wasn't like that. nope. There was a ton of room. . . big ol cirlces like 15 foots in diameter. . . room to walk, jog around. . . whatever. Shoot, this is one of the very so few parties where people would move out of my way so I could get by. Usually the kinda just look at cha like "How you gonna get around me buddy" kinda look in their eyes, but noooooo people were really really friendly, and the vibe was totally like making the air thick, not the overcroded sweaty greasy people which is somewhat norm in the biggity biggitty O. Sac people are weird. I don't know how but. . . you guys look the same and act the same. . . but you're just slightly diffirent. . . somehow ?? I was suprised to see so many people I knew there. It was great, whenever you lost someone you could actually find them. The music was a bit too loud and seemed really distorted to me. The beats were clear though. I'm going to like all sac parties from now on. . . Which actually don't seem to be many anyway. . . HUGZzzz LuVyAlL Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 00:08:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15603 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 00:08:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 15582 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 00:08:00 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 00:08:00 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8001) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3CDMa22141 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:07:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <5509b6f.2453b6b0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:07:12 EDT Subject: Don't mess with ufo's. . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This stuff is wack, if you see it stay away from it, but if you want it, 1 may be too much. Lotsa people getting really sick (pretty much every time) and having to go to er's for fun. There's some schtuff out there. . . . the good. . . and the bad. . . People need to re-educate, or at least educate themselves about things they may be doing to themselves. You should know exactly what it is, what it does, and always be responsible. Take Care HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 00:38:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23214 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 00:38:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 23205 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 00:38:33 -0000 Received: from f5.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 00:38:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 16032 invoked by uid 0); 25 Apr 1999 00:39:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990425003907.16031.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.206.207 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:39:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.206.207] From: "Rani Skye Lefevre" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: My *humble* Digital Dreams Review Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:39:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi! OKay, I feel SOOOOOOOO much better after resting up after Digital Dreams last night! Damn! Of course, it was well worth the two and a half hour drive to Sac. Town to hear the Harmony Crew tear it up! I knew that the party was going to be good, because on the way to Sac., we stopped to get gas. Well, we were *going* to put in only $10, but I think the cashier made a BIG mistake, because we ended up getting $24 worth of gas for $10. WTF??? My friend Gabe, the driver, went inside to see what happened, but the cashier was cracked out or something, because she had no clue what was going on... well, whadda ya do in a situation like that? We thanked her profusely and left! I felt kinda bad, but we DID tell her what we thought happened. I know that I don't need any bad karma... Anyway, when we got the party, I got chills from the sounds of the thumping base leaking into the parking lot. At first, I tried talking to people that were waiting in line next to me, but they were totally oblivious! Once I got inside, though, things were totally different. They vibe was amazing! I had tons of Sac. kids come up and talk to me all night. There weren't too many people totally dressed up there like we do here in the Bay Area, which made me wonder if I was at the right party at first, but soon forgot about once I walked into the Harmony area. I made a quick tour of the place as soon as we got there, but found myself glued to the Harmony side! Of course, the visuals kicked ass. When I had gone into the Fuz-E side, I thought they were setting up cuz they had like one decoration. That kinda sucked, because the more eye-candy I see, the more I don't mind blowing another $20, but there damn well better be some good music! :) So, I remembered for once to meet at the water spot at 1 am, where I met Patrick Seaton (Party Pat). He was really nice! Throughout the night, it was wonderful to see familiar faces from the SF scene! I ran into Gerlando around 4ish, I think! I hadn't seen him since Innercense '98! Ok- I just have to say that I LOVED the location! I never felt too hot or claustrophobic- there was fresh air circulating throughout the entire building all night. The $2 water was jacked but expected, but I did think it was cool that they sold food. Oh yeah, the Port-a-Potties were nice as far as Port-a- Potties go! Everytime I used one, it had TP, always a plus! Also, I didn't see any disgusting goo on the ground- the bottom of my pants stayed dry all night! One more thing- I was the girl in the big blue and yellow overalls that glowed in the dark with big eyelashes, pnk hair, winnie the pooh backpack, a giant rainbow pinwheel, and a big smile plastered to my face! What a great night! -Rani :-} From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 01:02:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29470 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 01:02:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 29461 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 01:02:24 -0000 Received: from web222.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.122) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 01:02:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990425010212.3762.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.19.55.2] by web222.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:02:12 PDT Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Garrett James Subject: FS: Fostex DAT DECK $449 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not pleased with your MD or HD masters? Need to juggle digitally between real life, your computer and your effects? For Sale: Fostex D-5 Dat Deck Rackmount Dat, runs _excellent_ purchased 1 month and 5 days ago from Guitar Center Check your Musicians Friend catalog, this DAT lists for $1099 and is still selling new for >$800 This one for sale for: _$449_ and free delivery in San Francisco Bay and Monterey Bay Area add shipping COD for out of driving distance. Will throw in 4 XLR balanced cables for its input output. This is nice because you can record at +4db (balanced) This Dat definitely rocks anything made by Sony in the same price range can do the typical 48k, 44.1k etc. has a very sturdy rackmount as well. The only reason Im selling this is my house is looking a lot like Fry's electronics lately, many similar items, many of which are going unused. Contact: Garrett @ 650.210.9327 between 9am and 1am PDT or email dsp@music.dartmouth.edu From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 02:22:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18955 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 02:22:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 18947 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 02:22:47 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 02:22:47 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA03541 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990424191422.0072c9b4@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:14:29 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: want to host a party tonight? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk quick! do you have a venue you'd like to make available for an experimental electronic music event that (sniff) lost its location? projected attendance about 200. styles ranging from gabber to droning ambient to electro to infinity. if so, please contact Wei at (510) 845-4394. remember, a friend in need is a friend indeed. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 02:27:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20554 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 02:27:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 20546 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 02:27:13 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 02:27:13 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (7993) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJIAa19330 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:25:47 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:25:45 EDT Subject: PAGING ANNA! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk anna, if you're out there, e-mail me, i lost your e-mail address! hope to run into you tonight. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 02:45:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25643 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 02:45:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 25631 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 02:45:05 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 02:45:05 -0000 Received: from [209.209.6.138] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10bEui-0000vE-00; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:45:00 -0700 Message-ID: <000801be8ec4$d3976080$8a06d1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: "Maxik" , "SFRaves" Subject: Re: Looking for my lost love... PLEASE READ NRR FUN RELATED Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:39:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Hi. Resently something terrible happened to me. I was mountain biking and i >fell and i broke my both wrists. This is very hard for me cuz i used to >masturbate a lot and now i cant!!! I am in pain. I am looking for a guy/girl >in the Bay Area who are soft, loving and funny. I want a relation with >somebody cuz i cant be on self service for a while. > Me. Well... BLond, blue eyes, earrings, clean shaven....i will send you >a pic of me as soon as I start getting responses. > > >p.s. RFSondaerev'Isliam-eehtfoonenoydorapasisihT. > >,evol htiW > >xaM > > IN CASE YOU WONDERING WHAT p.s. RFSondaerev'Isliam-eehtfoonenoydorapasisihT THAT MEANS!!! This is parody on on of the e-mail i've read on SFR. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 03:11:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2380 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 03:11:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 2372 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 03:10:58 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 03:10:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990425030913.8191.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [209.110.235.221] by web4; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:09:13 PDT Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:09:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Sachin Kelkar Subject: Re: want to host a party tonight? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey guys, i found out about some huge deal going on a few weeks ago that's going on tonight with dj dan and others, but i lost the number. i really want to go but i need to info on where the heck it is.... could anyone help me? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 03:50:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10923 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 03:50:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 10915 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 03:50:41 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 03:50:41 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA32227 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990424205420.007ed100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:54:20 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Digital Dreamin' Baby!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Welll.... this weekend has definately been the best weekend in a long time!!! We started it off by heading to Eklectic on Thurs... it was realy crowded.. and I could not dance or breathe upstairs... so I headed downstairs and there were some beautiful beats down there... kindof a jungle/hip-hop/downbeat thingey.... very nice. After getting minimal sleep and heading to my Friday classes... we loaded up the jeep and headed out to Sac.... and oh was the trek worth it!!! This party went off!! The space was a lovely BIG warehouse with lots of room, plenty of fresh air and beautiful decorations. The Harmony room was bright and colorful with lots of blacklights and paintings and beatiful lights... and teh Fuz-E room was minimal with decorations... but the lasers and the projection screen were amazing... I told my friend it was like dancing in a rainbow.. and it was. And the music in the Fuz-E room was great all night.. some BOMB jungle, some very happy hardcore, and just great beats... but the sound was a bit too loud and distorted. Oh well. The Harmony room was wonderful as well..DUH! I spent my time migrating from room to room dancing and then moving and then dancing... whooo... exhausting. Sac parties deserve much more respect that they are givin... this party beat out most of the SF parties I've been to this year. It was also great cause I got to be back in my home town and dance my ass off with old high school buddies... it's alwasy surprising when half of your graduating class seem to have become ravers.. who would have thought??? This night was especially great thanks to the time spent with my two favorite people in the universe... Sarah and my boyfriend Ryan. I finally got the chance to bust a move with Sarah <> and it was wonderful. And, I met so many lovely Sac people... and I *once again* missed the SFR meeting time. SO... I was the girl in the blue wig with black feathers around the cuffs of my jeans busting it with blue glowsticks until the sun came up... literally. And ... to top it off... I spent today chillin with my friends on a blanket next to the American River in Sac... a nice outdoor after-party nap and picnic in the shade on a warm day....PERFECTION!!!! So people... the moral of the story is: Go To Bliss!!! Love, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 04:31:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20554 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 04:31:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 20538 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 04:31:18 -0000 Received: from tele.visi.com (HELO mail-out.visi.com) (209.98.98.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 04:31:18 -0000 Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7A51F80A for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:31:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from diogenes@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12960 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:31:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:31:16 -0500 From: Alex To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SOS-4:20 PARTY IS IN JEOPARDY!!! Message-ID: <19990424233115.Q29023@isis.visi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Jonathan Mack on Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 10:19:43PM -0800 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think i remember you posting on this party before and saying it was affiliated with some hotshot movie company... just a thought... can't they do something??? On Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 10:19:43PM -0800, Jonathan Mack wrote: > Attention SfRavers, > > I am putting out an SOS on sfraves because our venue is trying to > pull out of its contract for tomorrow night! Our venue operators decided to > sell their venue for two parties the same night and were unable to move > either one. I have desperately tried to work with them but it seems that > they are more worried about trying to cover up there mistakes than help. > > After pulling all the strings I had to get this many people > involved with this party; It seems that now 4:20 does not have a venue for > its party on Saturday. > > With all the effort and people behind 4:20 I am reluctant to pull > the plug on this party. I know it can still be a fat party BUT... > > IF WE CAN NOT FIND A NEW VENUE BY NOON TOMORROW WE WILL BE FORCED TO > COMBINE IT WITH OUR FOLLOW UP PARTY ON MAY > 21ST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > I am hoping that perhaps someone may know of a place that can be > booked for tomorrow night. If so please email me directly or leave a > message after the number 415.331.1500 x420 > Thank you for your time. > > Sincerely, > Jonathan Mack > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 04:39:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23493 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 04:39:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 23484 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 04:39:23 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd105.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.169) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 04:39:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 65072 invoked by uid 0); 25 Apr 1999 04:38:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990425043856.65071.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.67.249 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:38:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.67.249] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: dubphonik Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:38:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk maan.. this really totally phukin sucks.. my damn ride faked on me like an hour ago so i ain't goin to dubphonik.. i was lookin forward to it to.. damn.. now i'm stuck at home wit nada to do.. i wish my car worked.. i'd be out solo.. well ya'll that go have fun.. late david.. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 04:52:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26515 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 04:52:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 26506 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 04:52:46 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 04:52:46 -0000 Received: from RLBGHARE@aol.com (8078) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUYUa17637 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:52:04 -0400 (EDT) From: RLBGHARE@aol.com Message-ID: <24ced6de.2453f973@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:52:03 EDT Subject: Location for All Play Together To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: RLBGHARE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know where All Play Together is? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 04:55:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28144 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 04:55:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 28136 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 04:55:51 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 04:55:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 16788 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 04:55:46 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 04:55:46 -0000 Received: from poly (lax-ts1-h1-40-224.ispmodems.net [209.162.40.224]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA11329 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001701be8ed8$a2ed66a0$42c0fea9@poly> From: "Abraham Orozco Mendoza" To: Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:01:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE8E9D.F5B45B40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE8E9D.F5B45B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this list sucks get me off! ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE8E9D.F5B45B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this list sucks get me=20 off!
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE8E9D.F5B45B40-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 05:34:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7604 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 05:34:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 7591 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 05:34:01 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 05:34:01 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D82DDDZH; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:33:44 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:51:10 -0700 Subject: Oakland loft collapse! Message-ID: <19990405.085112.-84307.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4,6,8-10 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm surprised there hasn't been more posts on this yet. I just saw on the Channel 2 news about the loft collapse at a (???) party last night at 19th & Telegraph in Oakland. Six kids were injured. Fire officials said it the building was being renovated and the collapse was due to "overcrowding". They also stated that they didn't know how the promoters recieved permits for this party or if they had any at all. If anybody knows the condition of the six kids that were hurt, please make a post. -galen Quick question - Is 19th & Telegraph the J. Newberry Center? or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 05:50:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12997 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 05:50:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 12978 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 05:50:42 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 05:50:42 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (14386) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xEGCa05754; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:48:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <2c5f41e8.245406b9@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:48:41 EDT Subject: Re: this list sucks get me off! To: aomz@thegrid.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/24/99 9:55:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, aomz@thegrid.net writes: << this list sucks get me off! >> It's easy. Here, I'll walk you through it... 1. Get your right index finger out of your nose, you'll need it to type. 2. Prepare a new piece of mail, just like the one you did to send this one. 3. In the little "Send To" box, put the address Majordomo@hyperreal.org 4. In the "subject" header, put the words "unsubscribe sfraves" 5. Now find the little "Send" button and press it. No, not with your finger. With your mouse, smart guy! 6. Yes, in that order! Otherwise, I doubt it will work. 7. Put your right index finger back in your nose or wherever else you would prefer to insert it. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 10:10:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13991 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 10:10:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 13980 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 10:10:31 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 10:10:31 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (7822) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iXXMa24779; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 06:09:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 06:09:21 EDT Subject: Re: found my placement in the bassment(bsp) To: audioangel@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk big ups to the woman they call mc angel...the dopest female vocalist on the mic in the jungall.... love.... DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 11:06:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19203 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 11:06:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 19195 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 11:06:04 -0000 Received: from f275.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.166) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 11:06:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 32557 invoked by uid 0); 25 Apr 1999 11:05:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990425110537.32556.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.112.27.62 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 04:05:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.112.27.62] From: "dj boywonder" To: Space201@aol.com, aomz@thegrid.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: this list sucks get me off! Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 04:05:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahahhahahahhaha' word aaron >From: Space201@aol.com >Reply-To: Space201@aol.com >To: aomz@thegrid.net, sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: this list sucks get me off! >Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:48:41 EDT > >In a message dated 4/24/99 9:55:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, aomz@thegrid.net >writes: > ><< this list sucks get me off! >> > >It's easy. Here, I'll walk you through it... > >1. Get your right index finger out of your nose, you'll need it to type. >2. Prepare a new piece of mail, just like the one you did to send this one. >3. In the little "Send To" box, put the address Majordomo@hyperreal.org >4. In the "subject" header, put the words "unsubscribe sfraves" >5. Now find the little "Send" button and press it. No, not with your finger. >With your mouse, smart guy! >6. Yes, in that order! Otherwise, I doubt it will work. >7. Put your right index finger back in your nose or wherever else you would >prefer to insert it. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 15:03:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24022 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 15:03:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 24014 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 15:02:58 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 15:02:58 -0000 Received: from KlNGSHADY@aol.com (14410) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTADa25425 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:02:19 -0400 (EDT) From: KlNGSHADY@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:02:17 EDT Subject: ( To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Reply-To: KlNGSHADY@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK first off ...this party was surprisingly good ! Loved the Venue , Verry clean , Thanks for the free water ! even though we should get free water all the time , sinse we pay 15-20-25 dollars for like , Most partys ! Good Music , Uphonic went of And Kemical Kid tOo , ! Verry nice sets and much props! Uhm well... there was allot of random people there , not to be meen but there was...LOTS ! buts its cool you know , whatever , what do you expect ? Is the New trend for all these new kid-e's ever gona die anytime soon ??? well ok... Off to bed , Good night.. King Shadester)>... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 15:23:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28780 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 15:23:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 28772 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 15:23:27 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 15:23:27 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.64) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:27:28 -0800 Message-ID: <37233332.FE54722B@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 08:22:27 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: Re: WHy? WHy Why? (krr) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk is that all you do? nap nap nap. :) paul > > and on that note.> I'm going to take a midday nap! > > hugs n'stuff, > trice the teknodiva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 15:51:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3087 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 15:51:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 3079 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 15:51:17 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 15:51:17 -0000 Received: from Angel2290@aol.com (14412) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oQPLa18500; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:47:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Angel2290@aol.com Message-ID: <14cdfee4.24549305@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:47:17 EDT Subject: Re: Oakland loft collapse! To: elias_smith@juno.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Reply-To: Angel2290@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm pretty sure that is j.newberry, cause the ice rink is on 18th, and newberry's a block down... now haven't people been saying that it's unsafe? i went to one really good party there last year, and thought it would be fun to go back (so much for that idea, huh.) love and hugs and stuff, jenny From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 16:23:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10410 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 16:23:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 10402 invoked by uid 233); 25 Apr 1999 16:23:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 25633 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 04:46:30 -0000 Received: from cartman.terrazzoworks.com (199.108.92.90) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 04:46:30 -0000 Received: from zoinks (zoinks.terrazzoworks.com [199.108.92.80]) by cartman.terrazzoworks.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA27803 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:44:19 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990424214945.021b9390@mail.eddie.com> X-Sender: lists@mail.eddie.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:52:07 -0700 To: From: "eddie.com" Subject: Re: Collapsed floor - last night In-Reply-To: <001301be8eae$0c281640$6769aec7@sfsrv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It was in Oakland on friday night. A 9-foot lofted platform collapsed. No one killed, just minor injuries. Here's the scoop: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/1999/04/24/stat e1041EDT0224.DTL -eddie At 04:56 PM 4/24/99 -0700, Michael Bruton wrote: >Rumour has it that there was a tragic event last night; > >The 2nd floor at a two-story party collapsed; it didn't sound like anyone >died, but there were many injuries. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 18:09:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8051 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 18:09:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 8027 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 18:09:28 -0000 Received: from ww156.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.56) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 18:09:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 18331 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Apr 1999 18:09:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990425180919.18330.qmail@ww156.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.56 by ww156 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Sun Apr 25 18:09:19 GMT 1999 Date: 25 Apr 99 11:09:19 PDT From: //8%.Rt/00 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: -- sat night's alright X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so last night i actually enjoyed a party at 2nd and jackson, it was quite= refreshing... = i mean don't get me wrong, there were some thug fucks stealing peoples ba= gs, hundreds of eee'd out 14-yearolds everywhere (mostly on the dirty-ass flo= or), $2 for warm water(really pathetic, that shit shoulda been cold for $2)...= but damn! the music was sick, the people that were dancing had some decent en= ergy, and IT WASN'T BOILING HOT... = huge thumbs up to kevin (promoter) for bringing in those _massive_ fans (= which only cost $30 a piece for all you promoters) and for not completely _p a = c k i n g_ the venue. at any rate, it was nice, but its sad to see what people are making of pa= rties these days... so many kids taking excessive drugs (shit... and selling th= at crap too, i wanna call every ONE of those little shit's parents everytime= i here....' eeee ??? " whatever... i had fun. l8. tangent. _ _ = _|_ _.._ _ _ ._ _|_ (_) (_) [icq:20465861] |_(_|| |(_|(/_| | |_ (_) (_) [now where was i?] _| = Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 18:16:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10599 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 18:16:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 10573 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 18:16:08 -0000 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net (HELO mail.ednet.net) (216.112.68.132) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 18:16:08 -0000 Received: from [216.112.68.222] (HELO [10.0.0.2]) by mail.ednet.net (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b2) with ESMTP id S.0000312812; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:16:11 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: joe@mail.ednet.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14cdfee4.24549305@aol.com> References: <14cdfee4.24549305@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:16:42 -0700 To: Angel2290@aol.com From: Joe Rice Subject: Re: Oakland loft collapse! Cc: elias_smith@juno.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 11:47 AM -0400 4/25/99, Angel2290@aol.com wrote: >i'm pretty sure that is j.newberry, cause the ice rink is on 18th, and >newberry's a block down... now haven't people been saying that it's unsafe? >i went to one really good party there last year, and thought it would be fun >to go back (so much for that idea, huh.) love and hugs and stuff, jenny The location was near Newberry, but not that particular space. Joe From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 18:24:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13744 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 18:24:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 13729 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 18:24:17 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 18:24:17 -0000 Message-id: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:22:18 -0700 Subject: Re(2): Oakland loft collapse! To: Angel2290@aol.com Cc: elias_smith@juno.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Was this the Lightseed party? I thought there were only 150 bodies allowed. Anybody know? Was is permitted? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 19:07:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23405 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 19:07:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 23380 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 19:07:45 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 19:07:45 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.170] (kenya-170.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.170]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23595; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:07:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <14cdfee4.24549305@aol.com> <14cdfee4.24549305@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:27:37 -0700 To: Joe Rice , Angel2290@aol.com From: Deepfog Subject: Re: Oakland loft collapse! Cc: elias_smith@juno.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 11:16 AM -0700 25-04-1999, Joe Rice wrote: >At 11:47 AM -0400 4/25/99, Angel2290@aol.com wrote: >>i'm pretty sure that is j.newberry, cause the ice rink is on 18th, and >>newberry's a block down... now haven't people been saying that it's unsafe? >>i went to one really good party there last year, and thought it would be fun >>to go back (so much for that idea, huh.) love and hugs and stuff, jenny > >The location was near Newberry, but not that particular space. > >Joe well it actually looks like it was 1933 telegraph where they either did have or still do have a record store and have done some friday night jungle parties. the firefighters said they did not have a permit to the 10'oclock news. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 19:09:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25357 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 19:09:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 25348 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 19:09:45 -0000 Received: from web106.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 19:09:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990425190946.22330.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Received: from [158.252.208.199] by web106.yahoomail.com; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:09:46 PDT Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Marco Mancia Subject: no Sun. today...? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if anyone knows that there is a sunset today, if you want to be an amazing person and voicemail it to me at 818-262-1182, i would love to go........am visiting from LA this weekend, and use to live up here, and just about ready to drive home, but would be really cool to leave going by a sunset...........!!!!!! === -marco zapAtuR........"23" dj diablo (diabeter) ---------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 19:53:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11938 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 19:53:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 11924 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 19:53:09 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 19:53:09 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (14434) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPNZa13357 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:52:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:52:28 EDT Subject: "Paging Tracer and Spesh" To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone!! How was "All Play Together"? I heard it was pretty cool...Anyways I wanted to if Tracer and Psesh were on the list if so Can you e-mail me or if anyone knows their e-mail addy could you please give it to me thanks alot ~HugZ Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 20:46:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29255 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 20:46:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 29246 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 20:46:41 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 20:46:41 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (14409) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDGMa14879 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:46:04 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <2f4a93c1.2454d907@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:45:59 EDT Subject: ALLONE--tina's review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so it was quite an interesting nite for me! i have to make a side comment, it is always nice to have pleasent people working at the ticket desk and inside door.... the girl that was there last nite was really sweet and patient, while the guy working the cash was really rude, and after becomming frustrated with him and the fact that he wasn't listening to me i got mad and was almost to the point of yelling at him, if my friends hadn't pulled me away... i understand he was trying to do his job, but a smile and a polite attitude makes a world of difference! so once inside, the party was beatifully decorated! the lil hallway between the rooms had this colorfull foam-looking stuff on it, the visuals were really nice too.... i didn't spend much time in the second room, cuz the music was just too slow for me to dance to. the main room was house most of the time i was there... about half an hour into the nite, dancing my booty off with my friend debbie, this kid, all messed up on some drug decides it would be a good idea to stand right behind me--i mean right behind me, becuz before i know it, i step back and i stepped on his foot, which he quickly pulled away causing me to fall on my other foot and twist my ankle... so donna, the nice first aid lady, wraped it for me and they all recommended that i didn't dance any more =( then added, well at least for every minute u dance, take a minute break.. my only problem was the huge # of people i saw really, really fucked up... kids so e'd out of their minds that their eyes were rolling back, and they were grinding their teeth like no tomorrow... don't get me wrong, i have no problem with *responsible* drug use but it is soo sad to see these kids, and i do mean kids, they were mostly really young looking, soooo fucked up... so back out in the party i danced for a while, but having been up most of the day, being injured, both me and my friend sober, and her telling me she was really tired and wanted to leave, around 2:30-3ish we headed home... i wish i could have stayed longer, this party had an excellent line up, lotsa tallent imported, local dj's we don't hear every weekend, and although not a lot of kids i knew were there, the lovely 2nd and jax crew were onced again very helpful and nice... people give this location a lot of crap, and although there are improvements that could be made, and hopefully will be, it is possible to have a great party there.. stacy is a really nice person, who from what i can see cares about the kids out there, and she's always been really nice to me.... so i'd love to hear from any of the other kids out there who went, how was the rest of the party????? and of course, how was all play together?? which is where most of my friends went last nite.... well, regardless of what you all did this weekend, i hope everyone had a beautiful time!! love and hugs and kisses, tina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 20:55:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1267 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 20:55:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1250 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 20:55:42 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 20:55:42 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (8005) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3DKQa15096 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:54:51 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <6af0ea42.2454db0a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:54:34 EDT Subject: Re: Oakland loft collapse! To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THis is really terrible that this happened.. why were they allowed to use the space if it was being renovated? I guess the dancefloor gave way and everyone sort of slid down to the floor below including the turntables and djs... I'm not sure how the kids are doing, all I know is noone got killed.. Thank god... this is so scary, but I'm surprised that this location was the one that collapsed... it seemed like a sturdier place than that (not that I'd ever bring myself to go there or anything) hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 21:18:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5706 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 21:18:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 5697 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 21:18:30 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 21:18:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990425211645.28652.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.124.71.47] by web4; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:16:45 PDT Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:16:45 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: nord's drum & bass whodathought? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so I went to Cafe du Nord lasst night on a tip from a customer at the kinkos that I work at. Sure its a crappy blue collar job but it seems to be the nexus for all the djs promoters and such so I always find out about the cool stuff going on. I thought Cafe du nord was a strange venue to have this at, since it seems to have a reputation for rockabilly or swing- but I thought it would be worth a shot, plus I went to the SPAZ party in Oakland on Friday and wasn't in the mood to stray to far from home on Sat. I mean I have been trying to live up to the party like its 1999 mystic this year but damn if it isn't wearing me out. I know I should spend a week in bed so that I can shake this rasping cough, but who wants to do that? So maybe it was a bad idea to go to Rollerdisco, while still getting over the flu. Man is body still sore. Gravity and me just didn't get along that night. Everytime i'd put some funk into my skating- wham flat on my back i'd fall till once I looked at my wrist and it looked bent at an obtuse angle. Maybe I should not have gone and got drunk at bondage a gogo, while on antibiotics. But for crying out loud who can be good for two weeks??? I still can't remember what I wrote in that wild side ad- I know it ended with whipped cream and other delights. And I just wasn't feeling up to my role as the cross dressing schoolgirl at anon salons come as a wild child party. If you have never been to one- they always put lots of effort into their parties and my friend DJ Laird spins some mean funky house... And maybe I should have stayed in bed instead of riding in the trunk of the Messiahmobile to the SPAZ collective's show in Oakland, but it was Fri night so whattayagonnado. I must say that the space was really wild, a huge warehouse-space with tents and caravans. It was a nice change of stlye from clubbing lotsa lo-fi experimental dance music, and one mad scratching DJ...but our party was feeling tired and decided to leave early. It seemed like alot of ganstas were showing up as I left, I wondered if the night went smoothly or if any conflicts broke out... This is why I thought, I'd have a low impact night and go to du Nord. It was definitely a strange mix of really fine drum and bass and yuppies or greasers that seemed uncertain of what to do. This created a dance deprived atmosphere until the necessary amount of dancers showed up. Nothing sucks more than hearing music that makes me want to move my ass and seeing people standing around chatting likes its happy hour. Finally, by midnight, the necessary groove was going on in both rooms to keep me happy and thinking about returning next month... As for now I think I should save my energy for Cheb I Sabbah at 1015 on thurs. But I wont make promises not to go out till then I wouldn't believe me. see you in the clubs, warehouses, wherever, hack hack pjf From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 22:18:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13419 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 22:18:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 13410 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 22:18:48 -0000 Received: from www.concourse.net (HELO mail.concourse.net) (209.63.66.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 22:18:48 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (209.63.66.124) by mail.concourse.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:22:51 -0800 Message-ID: <3723948B.A22AF754@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:17:47 -0700 From: Paul Sober X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRAVES Subject: all play together Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just wanted to say that i had the most amazing night last night with everyone out at all play together. there was so many great people there just groovin with soo many incredible dj's that were soooo on. thank you jared, kelly, and scott, for a stupendous night. thank you spesh, for a mind blowing tape, and that set. . .in fact many of the sets that night, were long mental voyages for me. 'we are all here together, we are all here together' and we were, and it was all i needed to go to that next level. radley marx, and dutch. . .umm, wow. talk about continuity, synchronicity, and hypnotism. after spesh, i was in a zone, for the remainder of the night, except for the whole sesame street thing, and the great balls of fire thing. last night is something i won't forget for a long long time. thanks again jared, and everyone else that i met. soo many cool people. so much music. so much love. paul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 23:19:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20018 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 23:19:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20009 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 23:19:42 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 23:19:42 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA00348 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990425162320.00809c80@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:23:20 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: negative words and violence Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >now... part two... go play a video game, or just imagine one... one where >you have an automatic weapon, where your entire goal is to be on edge, >stalking people who may run out in front of you in the hall (or droids, or >shapes, whatever) ... and when you see them... quick, blow them away! boom, >boom, boom!! yes, and there's a reward, you get to WIN for that! how's that >adrenaline going? like it? > > That's why everybody should ONLY play BUsta-Grooves.... have you guys seen this game??? It's a Playstation game where you basically try to beat your opponenet by dancing your ass off.... no weapons or violence... the music is pretty cheesy though with the exception of one level which has a decent housey beat and vocals... hopefully Busta-Grooves 2 will feature some bona-fide trance or dnb or better house.... and on the subject of non-violent video games... I've really been missing my ol' nintendo. Super Mario Bros is still tied as my all-time favorite game (tied with Pole Position.... yay Atari!) Sure... you shoot fireballs at mushrooms and plants.... but that's not all that violent (destroying mushrooms... thats an anti-drug message... who says video-games dont have morals???) ANyways.. this post was pretty pointless except to say that ..... ummm.... well there really was no point. Oh yeah... the game Nitrous Oxide rocks!!! That game is visually amazing!!! I would love to see this game projected on a screen at parties... you could have a playstation that people could take turns playing and have the game up so everybody could see the visuals( sorta like that scene in hackers)... you'd have to have somebody to watch the playstation so it wouldn't get hurt... but it would be cool. IAnyways...Nitrous oxide's sort of a racing game... but not really... you fly around in this spaceship type thingey and shoot things and try to collect more nitrous to power your ship...A perfect after party experience: chilling with friends and playing busta-grooves and nitrous oxide.... fun, fun, fun. Okay.... sorry for being so random, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 23:37:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29531 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 23:37:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 29521 invoked by uid 233); 25 Apr 1999 23:37:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23113 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 23:25:47 -0000 Received: from loviatar.webcom.com (209.1.28.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 23:25:47 -0000 Received: from kigal.webcom.com (kigal.webcom.com [209.1.28.57]) by loviatar.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA21079; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:25:46 -0700 Received: from [209.245.133.174] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 27019284; Sun Apr 25 16:22 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <3723A3CB.49251D3@silverpearl.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:22:51 -0700 From: Eric Spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: the town drunk Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Oakland loft collapse! References: <19990405.085112.-84307.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 19th and telegrapf is the block that Newberry's is in...which is "officially 1933. Regardless, the entire block was sold to the group that runs Newberrys as part of the Broadway Redevelopment Project. Instead of redeveloping the area, they are trying to make money off of it in any way possible...ie: Doing REALLY shady construction and letting the tenants make money off of their space from our scene. Ultimately, all of the blame for anything that goes on their is either directly, or indirectly, the responsibility of Linda Lowrence, the evil one. Peace, Silver Pearl the town drunk wrote: > I'm surprised there hasn't been more posts on this yet. I just saw on the > Channel 2 news about the loft collapse at a (???) party last night at > 19th & Telegraph in Oakland. Six kids were injured. Fire officials said > it the building was being renovated and the collapse was due to > "overcrowding". > They also stated that they didn't know how the promoters recieved permits > for this party or if they had any at all. > If anybody knows the condition of the six kids that were hurt, please > make a post. > -galen > > Quick question - Is 19th & Telegraph the J. Newberry Center? > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 23:47:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8291 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 23:47:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 8147 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 23:47:11 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 23:47:11 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (8005) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3NLHa16596 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:19:39 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <6b72246d.2454e0e9@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:19:37 EDT Subject: Last nite an MC saved my life..... To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk WOoHoo! what day is it again?? OH right.. it's cracked out sunday!! So yeah.. if you made it through the subject line here's my review of last night. First party: PROM heheh yeah.. that's what my white dress was all about.. n'stuff.. lesse.. sound system sucked.. I think it was the acoustics of the place but WAH! it would have been nice to actually HEAR the music in the back of the room. But decorations were ok.. FRee Fruit dessert and Drinks! YAY.. every party should have that ;) ;) ANd then.. these six djs that were working the party stopped playing their booty house and put on Jungle.. Oh oh! my friends and I were like>> Kick off the heels and jump up. That was the highlight of my prom. after that they shut it off and appologized for "bringing down the mood of the party." whatevah.. did that for a while and then headed off to.... ALL PLAY TOGETHER Yay.. I think between Jared saving my ass and doing such a wonderful job on the party my night was made incredibly better. I love this space.. and I know that with the $$$bucks$$$ it costs to get it that they had to do a dope job to still give me free water and candy at the door and free fruit inside. It's also a really clean location =) which meant Crisco and I could run around in out Dress and Tux for awhile. Then after too many etarded kids started grabbing it and asking me if this was my first party I changed... lugged my suitcase to a corner (Hey, why travel light?) After dancing for a while (Dyloot and Tom SLick played trance?? WHERE"S my breaks??) and mars and Mystere and Phil (you rock my world! It's me! your groupie!) I took a NAP!! yay... (yes paul I always take naps!) I get tired!! Doesn't anyone else need sleep?? Oh that's right.. yer all on drugs!! (I'm just kidding!!! honestly!) I guess people thought I had overdosed and passed out?? that's what I get for sleeping with my mouth open. Woke up... placed stickers on my shirt that said "TEKNODIVA IS SOBER" and a pin that said "Hugs not drugs" and proceeded back to the dance floor. Bruce fucking WENT OFF!!!! oh baby, give it to me uh uh! (that has nothing to do with sexual degredation! Just plain jocking the music) It was sick hard trance, though. Another nice think about this location is that they had an outdoor area and left lots of windows open AND had fans... what a great combination.. I think i was the perfect temperature all night. THEN.. my savior showed up. MAX! and after a quick run to the store he brought me some redbull and WOOHOO! i was back on my feet. Thanks! you saved my life! Ok.. what else?? Spesh was awesome and then Nick came on and Spun that jungle with max all up on his microphone shit! YAY! "We don't mess and we don't play!" NOw would be a great time to talk about the people that were there.. sure! I saw OHMAHGAWD... hehe kids I went to preschool with, kids I went to elemetary school with, people I went to camp with and lots of jews all rolling balls! It was so scary!! I don't really know what to think of all those randoms on the big D-R-U-G-S. but I delt with it because there weren't shady people and everyone was hell of nice and there was this sort of septemberchild vibe where everyone was in love with the party so much you had to have fun. Lots of fresh candy. LOTS of it.. come to think of it I can't remember the last party I went to with this much candy. OK well the point is the PP crew did an excellent job and people should take a few notes. GOOD DEAL! and in case yer wondering.. no I am not going to go take a nap! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva "the sun is up,,, the sky is blue,,, it's beautiful...and so are you." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Apr 25 23:56:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14161 invoked by uid 6000); 25 Apr 1999 23:56:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 14004 invoked from network); 25 Apr 1999 23:55:51 -0000 Received: from ns1.covalent.net (HELO zuul.covalent.net) (208.214.56.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 1999 23:55:51 -0000 Received: from mail.monterey.edu (firstclass.monterey.edu [198.189.5.44]) by zuul.covalent.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA74343 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:12:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu) Message-id: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:09:37 -0700 Subject: Thought Control......yup Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Save your cans, use some of your student loan $$$, get an advance on your allowance, sell your MC Hammer collection to a used CD place, get a job, borrow cash from a friend, wash micron's car.....do what ever you need to do (short of being unethical) and get this tape. You will not be disappointed. Peace, Bob-Bee....till May 1st anyway. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 01:58:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5669 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 01:58:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 5657 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 01:58:53 -0000 Received: from dogbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.34) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 01:58:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dogbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.9) with ESMTP id SAA17802; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:58:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@dogbert.ucdavis.edu To: Kim Hahn cc: Chris Layne , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Digweed? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk He played even longer than that, at least until 5am, I guess, until 6am, a five hour set!!! Silvia On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Kim Hahn wrote: > yeah, played from 1-4am and he was f**king incredible! :) > -k > > On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Chris Layne wrote: > > So correct me if I am wrong here, but was Digweed even _at_ 1015 last > > night (4/23)? If so, what time did he start? > > > > -cl > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kim Hahn (KH) | "Opportunity is missed by most > kimh@cafe.berkeley.edu | people because it is dressed > http://cafe.berkeley.edu/~kimh | in overalls and looks like > | work." > | -Thomas Edison > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 02:43:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20485 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 02:43:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 20460 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 02:42:58 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 02:42:58 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (14375) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3CQOa08200 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:42:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <4c30cbc2.24552896@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:25:26 EDT Subject: What are you doing may 1'st ??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Reply-To: Aryck46@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just to remind you all. . . It's soon time to show yer pot pride. Even if you don't smoke, or eat, or have anything to do with marijuana. . . it's still a great idea to show your support and have some fun at the Million Marijuana March. It's really fun for the whole family. Most people think that it's a big legalize smoking pot rally kinda thing but it really isn't. It's to show support for medicinal value, to show the support for people who are behind bars for life because they had a bit of weed on them, it's to help make people realize the many uses for hemp and marijuana. Ther'll be speakers, music, some exhibitions. . . and a whole lot of bud love goin around. So come and join all the fun. . . I am. . . so you know it has to be pretty cool. . . : ) For more info: www.drugpeace.org/mmm or (415) 971-3573 Hi noon in civic center plaza. . . SF CA. . . LuVYall HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 04:01:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28349 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 04:01:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 28337 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 04:01:45 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 04:01:45 -0000 Received: from pm10-154.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id J3LNR1JP; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 21:00:04 -0700 Message-ID: <00c201be8f99$4f5cc280$9ac5cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: saturday night Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 21:00:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BF_01BE8F5E.A2700260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01BE8F5E.A2700260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable started the evening by checking out dive-urgency.. kick-ass music and = some=20 very cool people there (got to meet alex & joaqman & daynah & caesar & = robin!)=20 =3D) then we headed off to all play together, where my girlfriend jen = was celebrating her b-day (happy berfday jennifer!!!) we had an absolute blast. = excellent location, great music and great vibes all night. this party was very well done. my .02 =3D)sooz aka libertygrl =20 http://liberty.ispree.net ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01BE8F5E.A2700260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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http://liberty.ispree.net ------=_NextPart_000_00BF_01BE8F5E.A2700260-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 04:04:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29191 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 04:04:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 29180 invoked by uid 233); 26 Apr 1999 04:04:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 864 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 03:09:00 -0000 Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.193) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 03:09:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426030944.13905.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.163.195.184] by web125.yahoomail.com; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:09:44 PDT Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:09:44 -0700 (PDT) From: dmarie Subject: 3 day countdown 'til Kung-Fu !!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, dmarie yo Cc: Griffin Emily MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THREE DAZE AND COUNTING! WEDNESDAY, APRIL 28, 1999 EKLEKTIC - DENSITY - GROUNDSCORE and the SF JUNGLE MASSIVE proudly host the {{1999 KUNG-FU KNOWLEDGE TOUR}} BAILEY (Metalheadz, UK) ROB PLAYFORD (Moving Shadow, UK) DJ CRAZE (DMC World Champion) 1.8.7 (Jungle Sky, NYC) EZRA (SDP, LA) MACHETE (Junglist Platoon, LA) SAGE (Phunckateck/Eklektic) AL SIMMONS (Density) and MC CHICKABOO (Knowledge, UK) + + + + + + Kung-Fu Mystic Visuals + + + + + + Visual Junglism by Spectr + + + + + + Touchin' down in San Francisco For One evening ONLY @ The DNA Lounge 375 11th Street 10PM to 3AM >>21+ $12<< [Discounted addmission to Eklektic's 85th Session the next night on Thursday, April 29th with Noel, Kaos and PBS with proof of Kung-Fu Knowledge!!] CONNECT: 415.332.5800 x797 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 04:46:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11251 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 04:46:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 11243 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 04:46:48 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 04:46:48 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14396) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vOYNa06294 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:45:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:34:49 EDT Subject: Re: negative words and violence To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/25/99 7:19:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << That's why everybody should ONLY play BUsta-Grooves.... have you guys seen this game??? It's a Playstation game where you basically try to beat your opponenet by dancing your ass off.... no weapons or violence... the music is pretty cheesy though with the exception of one level which has a decent housey beat and vocals... hopefully Busta-Grooves 2 will feature some bona-fide trance or dnb or better house.... and on the subject of non-violent video games... I've really been missing my ol' nintendo. Super Mario Bros is still tied as my all-time favorite game (tied with Pole Position.... yay Atari!) Sure... you shoot fireballs at mushrooms and plants.... but that's not all that violent (destroying mushrooms... thats an anti-drug message... who says video-games dont have morals???) >> i just got the japanese version of part 2 to bust a groove. its 10 times fresher than the original with more characters and dances and shit. be on the look out for this one coming soon to a playstation near u... DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 05:05:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17693 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 05:05:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 17685 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 05:05:27 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 05:05:27 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (7982) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSOQa18507 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:04:35 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <4389b485.24554db1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:03:45 EDT Subject: what are friends for??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FRIENDS my definition of a friend: a person who can trust you. a person who can believe you. a person who will sit down and talk with you as a human being. a person who actually cares about you. a person can except you for who you are. but..............what's is a friend? that's my only question. Is it someone that will be there for you through thick and through thin? is it someone who truly cares about you? or who will stick by you when you need someone to talk to? I learned a great lesson today. a lesson that has been around for quite a while but never found to it to be true, " friends will come and friends will go." i learned that you may think someone is your friend and grow strong feelings for them, but they may not have the same ones for you. you can love someone so dearly, but not be loved back. i thought i made a new friend this weekend. a friend i thought would actually care about me. i was wrong and i lost a friend this weekend. i must say... it hurts. it hurts so bad. for i have never had this experience before. i can't believe the pain one can cause to another. i guess this is just part of growing up. a part everyone goes through and eventually makes it....... ~Samantha *a lost child in a sea of birds* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 05:10:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19180 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 05:10:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 19172 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 05:10:27 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 05:10:27 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (7982) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNLMa24494 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:09:49 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <9d312b05.24554ef4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:09:08 EDT Subject: DiGiTaL Dreams...(everyone have a good weekend? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wow! this was a nice party. nice nice location...and best of all SEMI-CLEAN BATHROOMS!!!!!!!!! OH YA!!!!!!!...i saw no one from the list :P *eh*...sucky oh well...simon apex went off with DNA... Ethan *OMG* boy you rocked! like always though :)...ok...so i left around 4am.... the party was cool...massive props out to fuz-e and harmony! * i was the girl in the green adidas sports bar.* ~Samantha...i also had a blast at that little shindig in davis yesterday also and dina girl...you rock! :)...and today....well....i just dunno....-=/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 05:44:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27403 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 05:44:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 27393 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 05:44:00 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 05:44:00 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA31347 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:43:58 -0700 Message-ID: <00e401be8fa8$075bffa0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: What are you doing may 1'st ??? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:45:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, _just_ cause you will be there, aryck... :) no, seriously, what a better way to get psyched for acid breaks? hope to see some of you there, if i can find anyone!! peace, and happy sketchy sunday, alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: Aryck46@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 7:43 PM Subject: What are you doing may 1'st ??? > Just to remind you all. . . > It's soon time to show yer pot pride. Even if you don't >smoke, or eat, or have anything to do with marijuana. . . it's still a great >idea to show your support and have some fun at the Million Marijuana March. >It's really fun for the whole family. > Most people think that it's a big legalize smoking pot rally kinda >thing but it really isn't. It's to show support for medicinal value, to show >the support for people who are behind bars for life because they had a bit of >weed on them, it's to help make people realize the many uses for hemp and >marijuana. > Ther'll be speakers, music, some exhibitions. . . and a whole lot of >bud love goin around. > > So come and join all the fun. . . > >I am. . . so you know it has to be pretty cool. . . : ) > >For more info: > www.drugpeace.org/mmm or (415) 971-3573 >Hi noon in civic center plaza. . . SF CA. . . > >LuVYall > >HUGZzzzz > >Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 05:59:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1424 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 05:58:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 1405 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 05:58:56 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 05:58:56 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (327) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRTHa20195; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:58:15 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: <34bbead4.24555a76@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:58:14 EDT Subject: (oh this is really nice) was Re: what are friends for??? To: SanFrnRave@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/25/99 10:28:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SanFrnRave writes: > who the fuck cares..damn 15 year old..u shouldnt be proud to be the baby of > the list..u should be emberessed i'm 15 years old? hmmm..didn't know that and thank you for being so caring...who are you anyway?..looks like we have another "AthiestJon" on the list... -Samantha "the baby of the list" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 06:01:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2652 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 06:01:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 2638 invoked by uid 233); 26 Apr 1999 06:01:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18528 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 05:07:27 -0000 Received: from spazmo.peacedividend.com (HELO mail.peacedividend.com) (208.25.76.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 05:07:27 -0000 Received: from [208.25.76.69] by mail.peacedividend.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:08:35 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: jessica@mail.peacedividend.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:07:15 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: NRR: that Littleton thing Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have some thoughts on the treatment of the recent tragedy, and on the general treatment and depiction of (esp. troubled) teens in general, but rather than go into it here I've stuck up a little rant on the Peace Dividend site. http://www.peacedividend.com So if'n ya want to hear my rant, you can check it out there, there's a link from the front page. If not, well I'm not gonna burden you with it. Hope you're having a lovely remaining couple hours of your weekend, Jessica From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 06:49:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21175 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 06:49:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 21156 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 06:49:32 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 06:49:32 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com (4532) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dSFHa06727; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:47:46 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: <29b902e4.24556610@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:47:44 EDT Subject: Re: What are you doing may 1'st ??? To: awallace@u.washington.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im going to ACID BREAKS on May 1st............ Yoo all should go. if not, have fun at the party on 2nd and jackson and give mad props out to BRYANLEE He deserves it! =) Sorry,Bry, that im not going. some other time, i promise! love Linz From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 07:13:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29957 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 07:13:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 29912 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 07:12:52 -0000 Received: from web104.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 07:12:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426071438.4665.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.39] by web104.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:14:38 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:14:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Digital Dreams To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well the only person I saw at the meeting point was rainy (sp?) besides those that are on this and Sac lists. I hope everyone had as good of time as I did there. It was super. :D It's late and I just got back from Sac so it is sleepy time, nite. *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 09:44:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20406 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 09:44:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 20291 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 09:44:39 -0000 Received: from law-f67.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 09:44:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 66441 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 09:44:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426094411.66440.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 169.229.91.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:44:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [169.229.91.105] From: "gemini *" To: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: negative words and violence Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:44:11 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk that was totally random. oh wait--thats what *we* did on sat morning after dreams. ya, if you dig video games i would totally put in a plug for those two-i guess i just did. (i didn't even play and i was amused-then again, deprive me of sleep and keep me dancing all night and i guess most things would amuse me the next morning) love and happiness sarah >From: Carly Bourne >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: negative words and violence >Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:23:20 -0700 > > >>now... part two... go play a video game, or just imagine one... one where >>you have an automatic weapon, where your entire goal is to be on edge, >>stalking people who may run out in front of you in the hall (or droids, or >>shapes, whatever) ... and when you see them... quick, blow them away! boom, >>boom, boom!! yes, and there's a reward, you get to WIN for that! how's that >>adrenaline going? like it? >> >> > >That's why everybody should ONLY play BUsta-Grooves.... have you guys seen >this game??? It's a Playstation game where you basically try to beat your >opponenet by dancing your ass off.... no weapons or violence... the music >is pretty cheesy though with the exception of one level which has a decent >housey beat and vocals... hopefully Busta-Grooves 2 will feature some >bona-fide trance or dnb or better house.... and on the subject of >non-violent video games... I've really been missing my ol' nintendo. Super >Mario Bros is still tied as my all-time favorite game (tied with Pole >Position.... yay Atari!) Sure... you shoot fireballs at mushrooms and >plants.... but that's not all that violent (destroying mushrooms... thats >an anti-drug message... who says video-games dont have morals???) > >ANyways.. this post was pretty pointless except to say that ..... ummm.... >well there really was no point. > >Oh yeah... the game Nitrous Oxide rocks!!! That game is visually amazing!!! >I would love to see this game projected on a screen at parties... you could >have a playstation that people could take turns playing and have the game >up so everybody could see the visuals( sorta like that scene in hackers)... >you'd have to have somebody to watch the playstation so it wouldn't get >hurt... but it would be cool. IAnyways...Nitrous oxide's sort of a racing >game... but not really... you fly around in this spaceship type thingey and >shoot things and try to collect more nitrous to power your ship...A perfect >after party experience: chilling with friends and playing busta-grooves and >nitrous oxide.... fun, fun, fun. > >Okay.... sorry for being so random, >Carly > >*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 >BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 12:06:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2697 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 12:06:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 2689 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 12:06:35 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 12:06:35 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.228] (libya-228.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.228]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26319; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 05:06:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:00:00 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Cc: Rob Oliver Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello...today's quote is... "When you want to turn your mind on, you go to your computer. When you want to turn your mind off, you go to your television." - Steve Jobs ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 14:33:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15749 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 14:33:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15741 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 14:33:08 -0000 Received: from f224.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 14:33:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 85111 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 14:32:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426143242.85110.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.249.234.30 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:32:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.249.234.30] From: "P a r i s" To: maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: SFJ: Kemistry RIP Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:32:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2d55402a_6122b1a0$1468ee30" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2d55402a_6122b1a0$1468ee30 Content-type: text/plain Sad to say it's true,No joke....check it out.... http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/jungle/home.html much luv to her fam&frenz.. We know she will be missed... *Paris >From: Max McCauley >To: e@verbum.com, siren@xlr8r.com, groundscore@yahoo.com,sf-jungle@saturn5.com >Subject: SFJ: Kemistry RIP >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 05:57:26 -0700 (PDT) > > >I guess we have another new jungle angel to dance into heaven now. > >A friend of mine who lives in East London and works for Metalheadz told >me it wasn't a hoax. I am not a very happy guy right now. > >I love you Kemistry > >max > ------=_NextPart_000_2d55402a_6122b1a0$1468ee30 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_3160233a_6122b1a0$1468ee30" ------=_NextPart_001_3160233a_6122b1a0$1468ee30 Content-type: text/html
                 


Sad to say it's true,No joke....check it out....
http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/jungle/home.html
much luv to her fam&frenz.. We know she will be
missed...

*Paris


>From: Max McCauley <maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
>To: e@verbum.com, siren@xlr8r.com,
groundscore@yahoo.com,sf-jungle@saturn5.com
>Subject: SFJ: Kemistry RIP
>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 05:57:26 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>I guess we have another new jungle angel to dance into heaven now.
>
>A friend of mine who lives in East London and works for Metalheadz
told
>me it wasn't a hoax. I am not a very happy guy right now.
>
>I love you Kemistry
>
>max
>

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Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 14:52:45 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (14399) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xSCQa13190; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:51:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <68e2b412.2455d759@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:51:05 EDT Subject: Fwd: Sad News. To: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_68e2b412.2455d759_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_68e2b412.2455d759_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_68e2b412.2455d759_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:40:56 -0400 Received: from sygnet.syspace.co.uk (sygnet.syspace.co.uk [195.62.200.3]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id HAA02684; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sygnet ([127.0.0.1]) by sygnet.syspace.co.uk (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA92; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:40:38 +0100 Message-Id: <022101be8fd9$1dbf3ce0$33cb3ec3@risky.fdgroup.co.uk> Errors-To: djrisky@syspace.co.uk Reply-To: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk Originator: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk Sender: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Drum'n'Bass Arena" To: list DNB Subject: Sad News. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: To Unsubscribe, visit this page: http://jungle.syspace.co.uk/jungle/maillist.html X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:40:38 +0100 Kemistry (one half of the female DJ duo Kemistry & Storm) has died in a motorway accident. Our deepest sympathies go out to her family and those close to her. Pay your respects - http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/jungle/kemistry.html peace... - The Risky - Drum'n'Bass Arena http://www.breakbeat.co.uk --part1_68e2b412.2455d759_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 16:10:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4642 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 16:10:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 4567 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 16:10:17 -0000 Received: from web705.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.25) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 16:10:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426161014.5568.rocketmail@web705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.75.97.39] by web705.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:10:14 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:10:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jen Stiling Subject: THANK YOU- ALLONE To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Props to Kevin and his crew for putting on a well ventilated, not-too-packed, beautifully decorated party Sat. night. Perhaps a standard of respect has finally been set for 2nd and Jackson. Thanks for being that example- the extra fans, room to dance and incredible lasers were much appreciated!! 'Til next time, Jen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 16:17:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9931 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 16:17:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 9907 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 16:17:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 16:17:30 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 293 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:15:17 -0700 Message-ID: <372494FD.872B2C3F@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:31:57 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: BSP:Full Moon this Friday night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, what up peeps, hope everyone had a great weekend... Coming up this friday night... Full Moon.... also the Balance 1 year anniversary Come out and celebrate on the beach under the full moon and stars Your Djs for the evening John Howard Rob Doten John Rodriguez Eric Erickson TJ David Coleman and Sen-Sei (live on keys) 415-339-8015 or http://www.sfhouse.com for info hope to see all of you there! John Rodriguez Balance Productions p.s. oh yeah...in case you didnt know...its free From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 16:19:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11990 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 16:19:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11968 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 16:19:41 -0000 Received: from web213.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 16:19:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426161833.11774.rocketmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.108.36.66] by web213.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:18:33 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:18:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Sensei Subject: Re: what are friends for??? To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: jennxxrr@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I know exactly how you feel right now. It is a crappy part of growing up and being (or becoming) an adult. I'm 24 and it still hurts.... Sensei "Do not look forward in fear, or back in anger, but around in awareness" --- SaMiENiTTy@aol.com wrote: > > FRIENDS > > my definition of a friend: a person who can trust > you. a person who can > believe you. a person who will sit down and talk > with you as a human being. a > person who actually cares about you. a person can > except you for who you are. > > but..............what's is a friend? that's my only > question. Is it someone > that will be there for you through thick and through > thin? is it someone who > truly cares about you? or who will stick by you when > you need someone to talk > to? > > I learned a great lesson today. a lesson that has > been around for > quite a while but never found to it to be true, " > friends will come and > friends will go." i learned that you may think > someone is your friend and > grow strong feelings for them, but they may not have > the same ones for you. > you can love someone so dearly, but not be loved > back. > > i thought i made a new friend this weekend. a > friend i thought would > actually care about me. i was wrong and i lost a > friend this weekend. i must > say... it hurts. > > it hurts so bad. for i have never had this > experience before. i can't > believe the pain one can cause to another. i guess > this is just part of > growing up. a part everyone goes through and > eventually makes it....... > > ~Samantha *a lost child in a sea of birds* > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 16:23:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14486 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 16:23:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 14335 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 16:23:43 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 16:23:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426162655.12464.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.192.162] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:26:55 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:26:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: ReVIsed My version :): (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) To: Deepfog , SFRavEs Mailing List Cc: Rob Oliver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Great quote, it is soooo true about tv, trust me I have been sick in bed for 4 days with tonsilitis, ear infections, all kinds of weird sh*t, and I have had my share of television. I know I am really sick when MTV can bring me to tears. ugh. So i turn the radio on... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... "When you want to turn your mind on, you go to the MUSIC. When you want to turn your mind off, you go to your television." --- Deepfog wrote: > Hello...today's quote is... > > > ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your > computer screen > mailto:deepfog@hooked.net > http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog > +510-805-1415 vox > life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 16:31:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19321 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 16:31:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 19116 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 16:30:49 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 16:30:49 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA20483; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:20:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA00757; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:20:45 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: Carly Bourne cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: (videogames) negative words and violence In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990425162320.00809c80@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yes!!! finally, some one else who still likes the old school nintendo. that's all i have in my house (besides getting HBO for FREEEEEEE!!!) and i still love super mario bro's 1, 2 and 3! i know those games have a hint of violent content (squashing bad guys when you jump on them, or hitting them with turnips) but i used to play it all the time as a kid and i never equated that with full out violence like shooting people with guns. much love, amber On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Carly Bourne wrote: > That's why everybody should ONLY play BUsta-Grooves.... have you guys seen > this game??? It's a Playstation game where you basically try to beat your > opponenet by dancing your ass off.... no weapons or violence... the music > is pretty cheesy though with the exception of one level which has a decent > housey beat and vocals... hopefully Busta-Grooves 2 will feature some > bona-fide trance or dnb or better house.... and on the subject of > non-violent video games... I've really been missing my ol' nintendo. Super > Mario Bros is still tied as my all-time favorite game (tied with Pole > Position.... yay Atari!) Sure... you shoot fireballs at mushrooms and > plants.... but that's not all that violent (destroying mushrooms... thats > an anti-drug message... who says video-games dont have morals???) > > ANyways.. this post was pretty pointless except to say that ..... ummm.... > well there really was no point. > > Oh yeah... the game Nitrous Oxide rocks!!! That game is visually amazing!!! > I would love to see this game projected on a screen at parties... you could > have a playstation that people could take turns playing and have the game > up so everybody could see the visuals( sorta like that scene in hackers)... > you'd have to have somebody to watch the playstation so it wouldn't get > hurt... but it would be cool. IAnyways...Nitrous oxide's sort of a racing > game... but not really... you fly around in this spaceship type thingey and > shoot things and try to collect more nitrous to power your ship...A perfect > after party experience: chilling with friends and playing busta-grooves and > nitrous oxide.... fun, fun, fun. > > Okay.... sorry for being so random, > Carly > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 > BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 16:41:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25814 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 16:41:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 25805 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 16:41:13 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 16:41:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426164516.17514.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.188.192.162] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:45:16 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:45:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: NRR: (videogames) negative words and violence To: MacBunny , Carly Bourne Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh yeah! I love the old school super mario brothers games!!! Call me old fashion, but I actually like them better then the new nin64 version, maybe its cuz I already aced those three games. Dude. Its all about the warp zones!! =) Jessica --- MacBunny wrote: > yes!!! finally, some one else who still likes the > old school nintendo. > that's all i have in my house (besides getting HBO > for FREEEEEEE!!!) and > i still love super mario bro's 1, 2 and 3! i know > those games have a > hint of violent content (squashing bad guys when you > jump on them, or > hitting them with turnips) but i used to play it all > the time as a kid > and i never equated that with full out violence like > shooting people with > guns. > > much love, > amber > > On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Carly Bourne wrote: > > > That's why everybody should ONLY play > BUsta-Grooves.... have you guys seen > > this game??? It's a Playstation game where you > basically try to beat your > > opponenet by dancing your ass off.... no weapons > or violence... the music > > is pretty cheesy though with the exception of one > level which has a decent > > housey beat and vocals... hopefully Busta-Grooves > 2 will feature some > > bona-fide trance or dnb or better house.... and on > the subject of > > non-violent video games... I've really been > missing my ol' nintendo. Super > > Mario Bros is still tied as my all-time favorite > game (tied with Pole > > Position.... yay Atari!) Sure... you shoot > fireballs at mushrooms and > > plants.... but that's not all that violent > (destroying mushrooms... thats > > an anti-drug message... who says video-games dont > have morals???) > > > > ANyways.. this post was pretty pointless except to > say that ..... ummm.... > > well there really was no point. > > > > Oh yeah... the game Nitrous Oxide rocks!!! That > game is visually amazing!!! > > I would love to see this game projected on a > screen at parties... you could > > have a playstation that people could take turns > playing and have the game > > up so everybody could see the visuals( sorta like > that scene in hackers)... > > you'd have to have somebody to watch the > playstation so it wouldn't get > > hurt... but it would be cool. IAnyways...Nitrous > oxide's sort of a racing > > game... but not really... you fly around in this > spaceship type thingey and > > shoot things and try to collect more nitrous to > power your ship...A perfect > > after party experience: chilling with friends and > playing busta-grooves and > > nitrous oxide.... fun, fun, fun. > > > > Okay.... sorry for being so random, > > Carly > > > > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * * > > > > Carly Bourne------> > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 > > BareStage Online--> > http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know > what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 16:45:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29355 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 16:45:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 29326 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 16:45:28 -0000 Received: from web304.yahoomail.com (HELO send304.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 16:45:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426164856.18159.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.7.220] by web304.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:48:56 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:48:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Kemistry dies in car accident To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Kemistry of the DJ duo Kemistry & Storm was killed in a car accident. The U.K. Drum & Bass Arena has an area to pay tribute at the breakbeat.co.uk website (Under /jungle/kemistry)... If your feet & spirits were uplifted by this innovative talent now is the time to pay your respects & show your support ... Ars Longa, Vita Brevis... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 16:56:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8310 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 16:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 8285 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 16:56:55 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 16:56:55 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com (7997) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iFLVa06727; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:38:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: <255716c4.2455f09b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:38:51 EDT Subject: NRR:from candy To: gambit_92@hotmail.com, aaron_brewer@excite.com, m1k3e2@pacbell.net, Hcjschu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Candida29@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk for all you falwell critics, you should enjoy this little tidbit!! love & lollipops, candy The Rev. Jerry Falwell recently outed Tinky Winky, >> > > from that perverted television show, "Teletubbies", because, Falwell >> > > pronounced, "The character is clearly a fount of gayness: He's >> > > purple, the gay color; he has an antenna shaped like a triangle, the >> > > gay symbol; and he carries a purse, something all gay people do." >> > > But Falwell's work is far from over. >> > > > > >> > > > > I offer, for example... >> > > > > >> > > > > *** Fred Flintstone*** >> > > > > Evidence: >> > > > > His nickname on the Bedrock bowling team: >> > > > > "Twinkle-Toes Flintstone." >> > > > > The show's theme song ends "...we'll have a gay old >> > > > > time!" >> > > > > Wears an orange dress with little triangles on it. Hangs >> > > > > out with Barney far more than Wilma. >> > > > > >> > > > > *** Bugs Bunny*** >> > > > > Evidence: >> > > > > Often stands with hand on hip. Plays a hairdresser >> > > > > in one episode. >> > > > > Frequently dresses in drag. >> > > > > Loves to throw on a top hat and tails and belts out >> > > > > Broadway show-tunes >> > > > > with his buddy Daffy-who, it's worth noting, has a lisp. >> > > > > >> > > > > *** Velma (of Scooby Doo)*** >> > > > > Evidence: >> > > > > Always tries to sit next to Daphne in the Mystery Machine. >> > > > > Sports that butch haircut. >> > > > > Has broad shoulders and wears thick turtleneck >> > > > > sweaters and knee socks. >> > > > > Never once shagged Shaggy. >> > > > > >> > > > > *** Popeye*** >> > > > > Evidence: >> > > > > Eats lots of salad. >> > > > > Wears a sailor suit, even though he hasn't been on >> > > > > a ship in years. >> > > > > Does little sailor-dances. >> > > > > Dates a flat-chested transvestite named Olive Oyl. >> > > > > Best friend named Wimpy. >> > > > > >> > > > > *** Batman and Robin*** >> > > > > Evidence: >> > > > > Robin's nickname: Boy Wonder. >> > > > > Batman's real name: Bruce. >> > > > > Both wear tights. >> > > > > They're in great shape. >> > > > > They like to show each other their "grappling hooks." >> > > > > >> > > > > *** Peppermint Patty*** >> > > > > Evidence: >> > > > > Has a deep, gravelly voice. >> > > > > Wears pants, not dresses like the other Peanuts gals. >> > > > > Plays a mean game of football. >> > > > > Likes to taunt Charlie Brown. >> > > > > Always hanging out with that androgynous Marcie. >> > > > > Wears comfortable shoes. >> > > > > Nickname: Sir. >> > > > > >> > > > > *** The Pink Panther*** >> > > > > Enough said. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 17:43:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6337 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 17:43:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 6219 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 17:43:37 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd126.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.190) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 17:43:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 35300 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 17:43:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426174309.35299.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.160.32.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:43:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.160.32.13] From: "Eric Vandenbroek" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: E.S.P Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:43:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All I have to say is that the party E.S.P was completly incredible. The music was complety insane ranging for ambient to gabber. The location was a new location (well for me at least) located in berkeley. I would like to that the E.S.P crew for throwing a very nicely done party. And I look forward to the next one. Eric From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 17:50:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10962 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 17:49:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 10937 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 17:49:50 -0000 Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 17:49:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426174955.23619.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web120.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:49:55 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Jungle Queston To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to track down a song. Amen Brother by The Winston This is NOT jungle but used for the "Amen" beats. I need to know the genre of music this is. If anyone knows the genre, I would be soo happy. If you know where I can get the record, it would be even that much better. :D *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 17:57:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14840 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 17:57:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 14824 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 17:57:19 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 17:57:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426175441.18607.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.15] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:54:41 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:54:41 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: My (rare) Review To: sf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i don't usually post reviews - i enjoy reading other people's better - but today i need to say something about my saturday night - friday night was great too, digital dreams rocked. we started with dive-urgency. as joaqman knows how to do it, it was all family. great music and awesome people creating a nice atmosphere. for anyone living in the peninsula - or beyond - i would recommend going there next month to start your saturday night. after that it was Allone. got there around 2:30am, and from there on it was incredible music for the rest of the night. first it was this girl from switzerland, whose name i'm going to butcher: Ander Von Pinder. by far the best trance set i've heard this year, going from melodic to hard to progressive trance like i've never seen anyobdy do it. to close, we had the choice between eric spire in one room and troy roberts in the other. well, all i did was running back and forth between the two rooms, finishing with eric spire's set. all i can say is that between those three dj's mentioned above it was the best 4 hours of music i've heard in a while. also, finishing the night talking to eric was a treat, as it usually is. that does it for my review. i hope you all had a good weekend. loic From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 18:04:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19725 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 18:04:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 19374 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 18:04:42 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 18:04:42 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (2718) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJJQa23607 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:03:34 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: <386ad8c2.24560452@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:02:58 EDT Subject: Manifest Eris Review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You guys, this party was INCREDIBLE!! I have never been to anything like it. The whole atmosphere was one of pure energy with a touch of freakishness, if that makes sense. The music was a little slow at first, but whoever was spinning had an extreme talent with scratching! After about 11:30, a band came on (Trash?) who played the most intense circus-type psychotic music. To aid their music, they had two nurses with broken glass bottles, lurching around scaring all the kids! Had I seen that in most any other situation, I would definetly been freaked out (although I must admit, it was unsettling...they had the most blank look on their faces!). After that was over, we journeyed to the tent and heard some kick ass music. If any of you went, PLEASE tell me who the DJ was between 12:45 and 2:15. He was amazing! All in all, it was a wonderful party! Well worth my $5. Thank you so much SPAZ! Good luck on your tour! Love, Heather From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 18:22:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2690 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 18:22:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 2254 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 18:22:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 18:22:05 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 128 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:19:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3724B231.315142CD@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:36:33 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: NRR: FUNNY Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------BA241D08F65FCA4A43857E99" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BA241D08F65FCA4A43857E99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- John Rodriguez Balance Productions http://www.SFHouse.com JohnR@SFHouse.com --------------BA241D08F65FCA4A43857E99 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from hrg.com (karenw.hrg.com [205.138.243.18]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 166 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:17:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3724B828.41A20B0@hrg.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:02:00 -0700 From: "Karen Weidauer" Reply-To: karenw@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group, Inc. 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Hs31oLkH6IVuncVpB+iFbp3FBsajP8KkNRn+FB//2Q== --=_C690EB21.C9A8C5A3-- --0-846930886-924553773=:13842-- --0-1804289383-924906114=:29116-- --------------EC4868AE827DA07E155776ED-- --------------BA241D08F65FCA4A43857E99-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 18:29:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8151 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 18:29:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 7940 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 18:29:14 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 18:29:14 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA19123; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA26029; Mon, 26 Apr 99 11:29:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:29:07 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: Angel2290@aol.com Cc: elias_smith@juno.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: lightseed accident :( In-Reply-To: <14cdfee4.24549305@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it was telegraph and 18th the mesanine (sp?) level collapased and there was one serious injury..it was a broken leg. A concrete wall fell on him. Turntables were destroyed and stuff but a lot of the records were salvaged. It was an illegal party. No one to hold accountable in this situation. Sucks.... best wishes to all those looking for safe spaces.... aminita From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 18:29:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8381 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 18:29:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 8227 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 18:29:27 -0000 Received: from law-f50.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 18:29:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 84546 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 18:30:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426183009.84544.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.131.80 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:30:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.131.80] From: "Corey Landon" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:30:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is it just me or does it feel like today is DRAGGING? I guess it's time to go outside and breathe some fresh air :) CL From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 18:33:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11614 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 18:33:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 11544 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 18:33:13 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 18:33:13 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA03127; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:32:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca40-53.ix.netcom.com(209.110.233.245) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma003079; Mon Apr 26 13:32:16 1999 Message-ID: <3724B10F.1D25D07D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:31:43 -0700 From: Ray Vonie Organization: Feel Good Entertainment X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Spire CC: the town drunk , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Oakland loft collapse! References: <19990405.085112.-84307.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> <3723A3CB.49251D3@silverpearl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I talked with Jeff Taisch from Lightseed Sunday morning, and he filled me in on the details, and I must say, It's a Miracle that people didn't get killed in this disaster. The space they were using was NOT the actual place you are all used to being in, but it was one of the small storefronts that is adjacent to the main hall. I can't remember which one it was , to the right or the left. It was supposed to be a small party, and only like 100+ Lightseed crew and friends were originally supposed to be there. Jeff told me that there was a coinciding toga event at the newbery space, and when it let out, a bunch of those people spilled into the lightseed party, and that may have contributed to some overcrowding, and made more people go up top to the small loft balcony. The DJ and sound was setup underneath this balcony, and there were people dancing on top this balcony. Then it collapses, just as Jeff was spinning around 2am. Around 50+ people and the entire wooden structure caved in right on top of Jeff and others. He was lucky to survive and suffered from a broken ankle, and A LOT of cuts and bruises. He and 5 others had to be taken to the hospital. In talking with Jeff, and hearing how horrible of a situation it was, I'm just so thankful that it wasn't worse, and no one was killed in this accident. Lets all send positive thoughts to the Lightseed crew for a speedy recovery, and fast heeling. Keep it mellow, Vlad Eric Spire wrote: > 19th and telegrapf is the block that Newberry's is in...which is "officially > 1933. Regardless, the entire block was sold to the group that runs Newberrys > as part of the Broadway Redevelopment Project. Instead of redeveloping the > area, they are trying to make money off of it in any way possible...ie: Doing > REALLY shady construction and letting the tenants make money off of their > space from our scene. > > Ultimately, all of the blame for anything that goes on their is either > directly, or indirectly, the responsibility of Linda Lowrence, the evil one. > > Peace, > Silver Pearl > > the town drunk wrote: > > > I'm surprised there hasn't been more posts on this yet. I just saw on the > > Channel 2 news about the loft collapse at a (???) party last night at > > 19th & Telegraph in Oakland. Six kids were injured. Fire officials said > > it the building was being renovated and the collapse was due to > > "overcrowding". > > They also stated that they didn't know how the promoters recieved permits > > for this party or if they had any at all. > > If anybody knows the condition of the six kids that were hurt, please > > make a post. > > -galen > > > > Quick question - Is 19th & Telegraph the J. Newberry Center? > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 18:34:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13040 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 18:34:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12889 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 18:34:39 -0000 Received: from gw.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 18:34:39 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:27:03 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD252B@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: 'Corey Landon' , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:27:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE9012.6137D494" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE9012.6137D494 Content-Type: text/plain we should all go out and have lunch together. Hey any groovy kids working in the downtown area. who would like to start having lunch on a regular basis with my friend RJ and I...we work in the financial district. > -----Original Message----- > From: Corey Landon [SMTP:grltroopr@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 11:30 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: > > Is it just me or does it feel like today is DRAGGING? I guess it's > time to go outside and breathe some fresh air :) > > CL ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE9012.6137D494 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE:

we should all go out = and have lunch together.  Hey any groovy kids working in the = downtown area. who would like to start having lunch on a regular basis = with my friend RJ and I...we work in the financial district. =

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    Is it just me or does it feel like = today is DRAGGING?  I guess it's
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    CL

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE9012.6137D494-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 18:42:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20506 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 18:42:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 20406 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 18:42:16 -0000 Received: from osiris.vegasquick.com (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 18:42:16 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA03196; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:32:04 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: , "SFraves peeps" Subject: RE: FUNNY Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:38:16 -0700 Message-ID: <002901be9013$f2eab900$104b65d1@seker.t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3724B231.315142CD@hrg.com> Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk *waits for the beatings to commence* > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of John Rodriguez > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 11:37 AM > To: SFraves peeps > Subject: NRR: FUNNY > > > > > -- > John Rodriguez > Balance Productions > http://www.SFHouse.com > JohnR@SFHouse.com > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 18:52:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26740 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 18:51:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 26717 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 18:51:55 -0000 Received: from f37.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.48) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 18:51:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 90757 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 18:52:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426185220.90756.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.244.186 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:52:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.244.186] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: AValverde@northpointcom.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:52:20 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1ef4aae2_4bef2af9$3def49f6" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1ef4aae2_4bef2af9$3def49f6 Content-type: text/plain Oh Kay, you like the Metro? Or does one eat? Only, I work through lunch. going... going... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn >Subject: RE: >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:27:02 -0700 pro bona escriptoire: >we should all go out and have lunch together. Hey any groovy kids working >in the downtown area. who would like to start having lunch on a regular >basis with my friend RJ and I...we work in the financial district. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Corey Landon [SMTP:grltroopr@hotmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 11:30 AM >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Subject: >> >> Is it just me or does it feel like today is DRAGGING? I guess it's >> time to go outside and breathe some fresh air :) >> >> CL ------=_NextPart_000_1ef4aae2_4bef2af9$3def49f6 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_43c20453_4bef2af9$3def49f6" ------=_NextPart_001_43c20453_4bef2af9$3def49f6 Content-type: text/html


Oh Kay, you like the Metro?
Or does one eat?
Only, I work through lunch.
going... going...
I'm gone
Jaw
- Ta from Pyximhn
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>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:27:02 -0700

pro bona escriptoire:
>we should all go out and have lunch together. Hey any groovy kids working
>in the downtown area. who would like to start having lunch on a regular
>basis with my friend RJ and I...we work in the financial district.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Corey Landon [SMTP:grltroopr@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 11:30 AM
>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Subject:
>>
>> Is it just me or does it feel like today is DRAGGING? I guess it's
>> time to go outside and breathe some fresh air :)
>>
>> CL

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Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello people, We hope you are all feeling well and are in good health. On Friday May 21st, the children of the sun will continue our journey through the underground. This is our pre-party for our July 9th Party which is going to be our phatty groovy party of the summer (Many Of Your Favorites:). Our goal with this pre-party is to create the fun loving vibe that we all love so much and let our internal sun-shine bright! Bringing out nothing but happiness and love filled energy to share with each other and our friends all while listening to the best heart pounding beats all night long into the morning. Below is some info.... Bay Area Location 9pm - 6am??? Very Limited Capacity sound by: Mutor visuals by: Viberation Free Lemonade & Fruit Phatty Vibe The line up for this party is as follows: Brad - Moontribe / LA (Special 2 Hour Set!) Beatseed "LIVE" - Journees / Seattle Greg Sandler / Harmony andyW / Viberation Macadio / First Light Micron / Viberation Ambient Room TBA.... *Since this is a limited capacity event, we encourage all who wish to attend to purchase your pre-sale tickets to avoid being disappointed. We cant wait to spend the evening with you, it's going to be a magical night for all. We love you All, Spread The Warmth... 415.835.3144 $16 pre-sale Tix currently available @ the following locations: Solid Grooves - Santa Clara / F8 - San Francisco Trance & Jungle - Berkeley / Harmonics - Santa Rosa From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 19:07:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9033 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:07:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 8939 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:07:19 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:07:19 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA03502 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:07:18 -0700 Message-ID: <007f01be9018$3f2ed040$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: BSP:Full Moon this Friday night Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:09:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Oh, I really want to go to this... and if I can't I think I'll have to stay home and just stare at those gorgeous pics they have got on that webpage, wow!!! A breath of fresh air, indeed. Peace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: John Rodriguez To: SFraves peeps Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 9:17 AM Subject: BSP:Full Moon this Friday night >Hey, what up peeps, hope everyone had a great weekend... > >Coming up this friday night... > >Full Moon.... also the Balance 1 year anniversary > >Come out and celebrate on the beach under the full moon and stars >Your Djs for the evening > >John Howard >Rob Doten >John Rodriguez >Eric Erickson >TJ >David Coleman and Sen-Sei (live on keys) > >415-339-8015 or http://www.sfhouse.com for info > >hope to see all of you there! > >John Rodriguez >Balance Productions > >p.s. oh yeah...in case you didnt know...its free > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 19:29:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23270 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:29:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 23257 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:29:07 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:29:07 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA17323 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:28:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca77-55.ix.netcom.com(209.110.238.183) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017062; Mon Apr 26 14:27:10 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990426121504.00b8b720@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990426121504.00b8b720@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:24:07 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Thanks for Dreaming Digitally!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I just wanted to send out my thanks for all of the support at the Digital Dreams party! This party was really a great party! All of us (harmony crew) had such a great time, and those of you in Sac... you should be proud of the scene that is growing in your town!!! You all kick butt!!! I can't wait to go back to play in Sac. (Starburst is my next date) So thanks for everyone who put out the vibes last Friday and made that party a huge success! Also thanks for the Harmony Crew that helped set up that HUGE warehouse and make it feel great! You guys ROCK!!!! Peace and love, Greg= ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 19:31:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25346 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:31:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 25335 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:31:17 -0000 Received: from scrdp.stanford.edu (@171.65.48.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:31:17 -0000 Received: from [171.65.48.16] (scrdp-730-244-1.Stanford.EDU [171.65.48.16]) by scrdp.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06754 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:31:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: jgilmore@jgilmore.pobox.stanford.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:37:02 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jennifer Gilmore Subject: Paging 'Eric J' of Sunnyvale Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi - Sorry to spam the list, but I'm looking for 'Eric J' of Sunnyvale. We met at Stompy on Saturday...would you please email me if and when you get this message? Thanks! - Jen ************************************************************************ Jennifer Gilmore Administrative Associate Health Promotion Resource Center Stanford University School of Medicine 730 Welch Road, Suite B, 94304 PH: (650)723-0003 FX: (650) 498-7775 Email: JGilmore@Stanford.edu From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 19:43:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1560 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:43:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 1495 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:42:44 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:42:44 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16268 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:37:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG'" Subject: NRR Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:37:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IS ANYONE OUT THERE AS BORED AS I AM? NAOMI From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 19:45:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3453 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:45:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 3295 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:45:07 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:45:07 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.185]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-48930U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA248 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:53:36 -0700 Message-ID: <023301be901d$1d194800$b90318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: Subject: technics and mixer wanted Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:43:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0230_01BE8FE2.706683A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0230_01BE8FE2.706683A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone has or knows anyone who has some 1200s for = sale? I've been inspired by this girl who was spinning d/b at urban = outfitters this past saturday. Anyway....thanks all in advance. Nick ------=_NextPart_000_0230_01BE8FE2.706683A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi everyone,
 
I was wondering if anyone has or = knows anyone=20 who has some 1200s for sale?  I've been inspired by this girl=20 who was spinning d/b at urban outfitters this past=20 saturday.   Anyway....thanks all in advance.
 
Nick
------=_NextPart_000_0230_01BE8FE2.706683A0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 19:46:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4700 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:46:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 4560 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:46:02 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:46:02 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c4 (mmf13.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.83]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14424; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904261946.MAA14424@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: elias_smith@juno.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: Oakland loft collapse! CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:45:47 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's horrible...but at least now there won't be any more parties in that god-forsaken hellhole. Seriously, I can't believe everyone says that 2nd&Jackson is the worst. Rafie On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:51:10 -0700, elias_smith@juno.com wrote... >I'm surprised there hasn't been more posts on this yet. I just saw on the >Channel 2 news about the loft collapse at a (???) party last night at >19th & Telegraph in Oakland. Six kids were injured. Fire officials said >it the building was being renovated and the collapse was due to >"overcrowding". >They also stated that they didn't know how the promoters recieved permits >for this party or if they had any at all. >If anybody knows the condition of the six kids that were hurt, please >make a post. > -galen > >Quick question - Is 19th & Telegraph the J. Newberry Center? >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 19:46:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5225 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:46:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 5111 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:46:20 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:46:20 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-198-216.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.216]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26127; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <012e01be901d$ceae8df0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "Naomi Thompson" , "'SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG'" References: Subject: Re: NRR Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:48:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How can you be bored with your CAPS LOCK key on ? =) I didn't think that was possible! Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: Naomi Thompson To: 'SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG' Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 12:37 PM Subject: NRR > IS ANYONE OUT THERE AS BORED AS I AM? > > NAOMI > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 19:47:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6270 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:47:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 6226 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:47:18 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:47:18 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA20576 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:46:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca77-55.ix.netcom.com(209.110.238.183) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020453; Mon Apr 26 14:45:48 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990426122606.00b971b0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:46:52 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Greg Sandler Subject: Harmonics Presents DISCO BISCUITS!!! (bsp) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, There has been much talk around the underground scene about this so called... "DiScO PaRtY"?!?!?!? Well here it is!!! This Saturday May 1st... Harmonics Records proudly presents, ***DISCO BISCUITS*** (a theme in silver) In the Silver Ball Room GREG SANDLER ERIK BROWN GIANNI URN J-BOT MAC In the Platform Dreamers Room RUSSEL G SHOAM R2 WITCO RANDOM TOM-E ROACH Let's make thoe Silver dreams come alive- dress in Silver and get a free glowstick! @ 1:30am, the man and woman with the best costume will be crowned the SILVER DISCO KING and QUEEN. (and each will win a $50 gift certificate to Harmonics) This party will take place in an intimate beautiful venue in the North Bay... So come up here and get some North Bay love!!! $15 per ticket. There are NO PRESALE tickets available for this party. All 800 tickets must be purchased at the map point, or on the day of the party @ Harmonics (in Santa Rosa). The map point will close at 1am sharp, so plan accordingly and drive safe!!! Call for info (408)486-9591 or (415)289-6788 *This is the first in a series of Harmonics Records theme parties, so get ready to dance your ass off!!! Peace and loooooooove, Greg= ) ps. People loving people make the party!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 19:50:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8958 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:50:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 8892 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:50:44 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:50:44 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c4 (mmf13.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.83]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20698; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904261950.MAA20698@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: KlNGSHADY@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: APT venue CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:50:31 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey, does anyone know why this place isn't used more often? I haven't been to a party there since Basics last spring, and it's such a good locale!! Is it especially expensive or something? Rafie On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:02:17 EDT, KlNGSHADY@aol.com wrote... >OK first off ...this party was surprisingly good ! Loved the Venue , >Verry >clean , Thanks for the free water ! even though we should get free water >all >the time , sinse we pay 15-20-25 dollars for like , Most partys ! Good >Music >, Uphonic went of And Kemical Kid tOo , ! Verry nice sets and much props! >Uhm >well... there was allot of random people there , not to be meen but there >was...LOTS ! buts its cool you know , whatever , what do you expect ? Is >the >New trend for all these new kid-e's ever gona die anytime soon ??? well >ok... >Off to bed , Good night.. > > >King Shadester)>... > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 20:21:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2522 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 20:21:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 2501 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 20:21:21 -0000 Received: from wya-oe7.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 20:21:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 80770 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 20:22:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426202216.80769.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.36.254.167 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:22:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.36.254.167] From: "ve anne" To: ascend@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Harmonics Presents DISCO BISCUITS!!! (bsp) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:22:15 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk question is, will all the dj's really spin DEESCO??? if so, i'm sooo there! =) veanne From: Greg Sandler To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Harmonics Presents DISCO BISCUITS!!! (bsp) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:46:52 -0700 Hello everyone, There has been much talk around the underground scene about this so called... "DiScO PaRtY"?!?!?!? Well here it is!!! This Saturday May 1st... Harmonics Records proudly presents, ***DISCO BISCUITS*** (a theme in silver) In the Silver Ball Room GREG SANDLER ERIK BROWN GIANNI URN J-BOT MAC In the Platform Dreamers Room RUSSEL G SHOAM R2 WITCO RANDOM TOM-E ROACH Let's make thoe Silver dreams come alive- dress in Silver and get a free glowstick! @ 1:30am, the man and woman with the best costume will be crowned the SILVER DISCO KING and QUEEN. (and each will win a $50 gift certificate to Harmonics) This party will take place in an intimate beautiful venue in the North Bay... So come up here and get some North Bay love!!! $15 per ticket. There are NO PRESALE tickets available for this party. All 800 tickets must be purchased at the map point, or on the day of the party @ Harmonics (in Santa Rosa). The map point will close at 1am sharp, so plan accordingly and drive safe!!! Call for info (408)486-9591 or (415)289-6788 *This is the first in a series of Harmonics Records theme parties, so get ready to dance your ass off!!! Peace and loooooooove, Greg= ) ps. People loving people make the party!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 20:29:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9423 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 20:29:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 9412 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 20:29:05 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 20:29:05 -0000 Received: from AlexG1029@aol.com (3936) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHUFa14879 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:27:58 -0400 (EDT) From: AlexG1029@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:27:01 EDT Subject: lets play together! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: AlexG1029@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this party went off! the location was really nice and CLEAN and had plenty of ventilation and the decorations were good....free water at the door and a water fountain too: woo hoo! as for the music it had something for everybody: a lil house at the beginnin, a lil jungle at the end, and trance trance trance....and then there was UPHONIC ! ! ! gawd damn he went off! its all about hard trance and if u dont know it yet go to the next ETA and see for yourself! i couldnt leave the small room durin his set so i didnt catch M&M but im sure they did good and made all the etarded kids go "ahhh" Kemical Kidd was awesome too and jungle was fun for a change! big props to PP crew i had an amazing nite! PeAcE OuT alEx =.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 21:58:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7090 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 21:58:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 7068 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 21:58:49 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 21:58:49 -0000 Received: from TriXXXXe4@aol.com (2615) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vZQGa20115 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:45:57 -0400 (EDT) From: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:39:46 EDT Subject: RiP GuRLi* To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all of you who do or dont know about METALHEADZ, it is a wellknown Jungle crew and label from Europe. Mad respect out to KEMISTRy who was a BomB aSS Female JUngLe djs.... We need more female Jungle djs in this world...... One day......Yoo wills ee me behind the tables...... KEMISTRY U WILL BE IN MY HEART ALWAYS FOREVER AS AN IDOL AND A FRIEND. WHO I MET AT THE WMC LAST YEAR YOUR THE BOMB* I WILL MISS YOU =::::::( WE ALL WILL LOVE ALWAYS Linz " LiL K" * a LiL K for U and a LiL K for ME!* heehee* bye gurlie........ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 22:15:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16213 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 22:15:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 16152 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 22:14:55 -0000 Received: from web119.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.120) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 22:14:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426221543.11378.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web119.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:15:43 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: Halcyon + on + on To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.hyperreal.org/music/artists/orbital/brown9.ram Well due to it being Monday and all. I was really bored and started to surf. ;) I remembered reading a post about some poor unfortunate soul who has never heard this, but I forgot who. So here is a lil snip-it of the song. =) Happy Monday All. =Þ *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 22:17:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20257 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 22:17:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 20018 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 22:17:35 -0000 Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 22:17:35 -0000 Received: from Rackem124@aol.com (8011) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCUGa17637; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:16:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Rackem124@aol.com Message-ID: <5b7507c6.24563e5e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:10:38 EDT Subject: ilovEraving.com To: TriXXXXe4@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: Rackem124@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey guys, check out this new site. Pretty dope message board to post ur messages on. The full site is said to be launched this summer with full features, free email and stuff like that. But for now check out the message board, register & post some message!! http://www.ilovEraving.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 22:22:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22903 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 22:22:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 22861 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 22:21:46 -0000 Received: from mail.starfish.com (205.231.210.84) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 22:21:46 -0000 Received: from BKAGAN_P166 ([192.216.180.184]) by mail.starfish.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52234U200L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:12:37 -0700 From: "Bradley Kagan" To: "sfraves" Subject: Hello Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:18:40 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be9032$bca8dba0$b8b4d8c0@BKAGAN_P166.starfish.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I just subscribed to the list and I wanted to say hello. I have been into the underground for only about 6 months now. Its got my heart. I played guitar for many years but now I am getting into creating electronic music. I've bought a synth and am about to buy a nicer drum machine than the one I have. I was on another list for a while but SF Raves I think will be more helpful in my goals of making music. Not to mention I have met a few of you on this list at parties and the fact that most of the events I go to are in either SF or Oakland. Quick run down on myself so you sorta know who just joined the list. I am 30. I am a Software Quality Engineer and I work and live in the Santa Cruz area. I don't know much about this scene ( just what I have seen in the past 6 months ) but I want to learn more. History, Leading DJ's, what style's are out there, who's coming to town, what piece of gear I should get next, etc... Look forward to meeting all of you sooner or later. Sorry for the major long post but I wanted to hello to all. Love, Brad From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 22:26:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26895 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 22:25:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 26868 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 22:25:57 -0000 Received: from law-f72.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.135) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 22:25:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6269 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 22:25:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426222529.6268.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:25:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: May 1st caravan from SJ Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:25:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who all from San Jose is going to the May 1'st festivities in SF? Lets get a group together and we can meet up in SJ and caravan to the SF. Email me privately if you're interested. I hope you're all doing well -John From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 22:35:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4338 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 22:35:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 4322 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 22:35:41 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 22:35:41 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com (14453) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYIBa06727 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:34:40 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <3fcc4472.2456427e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:28:14 EDT Subject: Fwd: Sad News. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_3fcc4472.2456427e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Reply-To: MIB271@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_3fcc4472.2456427e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_3fcc4472.2456427e_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:40:56 -0400 Received: from sygnet.syspace.co.uk (sygnet.syspace.co.uk [195.62.200.3]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id HAA02684; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sygnet ([127.0.0.1]) by sygnet.syspace.co.uk (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA92; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:40:38 +0100 Message-Id: <022101be8fd9$1dbf3ce0$33cb3ec3@risky.fdgroup.co.uk> Errors-To: djrisky@syspace.co.uk Reply-To: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk Originator: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk Sender: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Drum'n'Bass Arena" To: list DNB Subject: Sad News. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: To Unsubscribe, visit this page: http://jungle.syspace.co.uk/jungle/maillist.html X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:40:38 +0100 Kemistry (one half of the female DJ duo Kemistry & Storm) has died in a motorway accident. Our deepest sympathies go out to her family and those close to her. Pay your respects - http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/jungle/kemistry.html peace... - The Risky - Drum'n'Bass Arena http://www.breakbeat.co.uk --part1_3fcc4472.2456427e_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 22:53:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15037 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 22:53:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 15018 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 22:53:07 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 22:53:07 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id PAA02471; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3724ECD0.1BA67A3C@best.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:46:40 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rackem124@aol.com CC: TriXXXXe4@aol.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ilovEraving.com References: <5b7507c6.24563e5e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it's unfortunate that they put the emphasis on the E. totally irks me! otherwise it looks like a pretty cool site. Rackem124@aol.com wrote: > > Hey guys, check out this new site. Pretty dope message board to post ur > messages on. The full site is said to be launched this summer with full > features, free email and stuff like that. But for now check out the message > board, register & post some message!! > > http://www.ilovEraving.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 23:30:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4149 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 23:30:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 4130 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 23:30:09 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 23:30:09 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (14394) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGKGa25233 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:29:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:22:17 EDT Subject: NRR: The Most Dangerous Snake in the World To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_a8048c40.24564f29_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: Abbo1234@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_a8048c40.24564f29_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_a8048c40.24564f29_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-za03.mx.aol.com (rly-za03.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.99]) by air-za02.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:03:28 -0400 Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by rly-za03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id PAA21408 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1881 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 19:01:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 1507 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:00:51 -0000 Received: from web604.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.168) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:00:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426190029.21745.rocketmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.99.69.50] by web604.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:00:29 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:00:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Supahstar Monkey To: PhaTaNdPhrEaShFunKaDeLiCSuPAfOoLdIfIeDPaRtYaNiMuLes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sacraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: trance_circus@yahoo.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The Most Dangerous Snake In the World > > > > NAME: > > "Expecteria Trouserius" (Trouser Snake) > > > > LOCATION: > > Throughout the world > > > > DESCRIPTION: > > One-eyed, with mushroom-shaped head (other types come with > > extra layers of skin). > > Varying from pink to black. > > Fang-less with a highly venomous spit. > > (Spit can reach distances up to 2-3 feet) > > > > Size varies from 3 to 12 inches, depending on its mood & > > sub-species. > > > > SYMPTOMS: > > This snake attacks mainly women in the lower front abdomen, > > resulting in an inconspicuous bump. Then a severe swelling > > followed > > excruciating pain after nine months. The attack is not > > usually fatal. > > Beware: > > It has been known to attack men in the rear lower abdomen! > > > > HABITAT: > > Usually found in bedrooms, but has been known to appear in > > the > > most unusual places. > > > > ANTIDOTE: > > Various types of vaccine available for women. > > However, once the venom is injected into the body only > > drastic > > measures will ensure complete recovery. There is no known > > antidote > > for men. > > > > WHAT TO DO WHEN ATTACKED: > > TOURNIQUET: > > Do not apply a tourniquet as the venom is too deep in the > > body to > > be affected. > > > > CUTTING THE WOUND: > > This would be completely unnecessary and ineffective as the > > bleeding > > will stop after a few weeks anyhow. > > > > SUCKING THE WOUND: > > This method is the most popular with the victim, but so far > > has > > not been reported to have led to any success. > > > > > > SEARCHING FOR ANTI-VENOM: > > > > 1. Place four fingers of the right hand around the neck of > > the > > reptile, with the thumb in the front. > > > > 2. Grip firmly and move the hand in an upwards and > > downwards > > motion. > > > > 3. This will result in the snake becoming highly > > aggressive, very > > rigid and start spitting. The time taken for this milking > > process > > depends entirely on the milker and the last time the snake > > attacked. > > Once milked, the snake should be harmless for about 20 > > minutes. > > > > > > CONCLUSION: > > This snake, although it is very aggressive and active, is > > not > > necessarily a vermin, and treated with the right respect, > > makes a > > wonderful pet. === >>-----|> Baby i can see you dont recognize me ... My name is "Happy C", Im the one that put the satin on your panties..... --part1_a8048c40.24564f29_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 26 23:37:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7972 invoked by uid 6000); 26 Apr 1999 23:37:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 7862 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 23:37:50 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 23:37:50 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (14398) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSTJa04279 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:36:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <6cfeb13b.2456512e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:30:54 EDT Subject: another trance wav... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey eveybody.. it's sparkles again... i have found yet another trance wav.. if anybody's intrested.. email me.. and ill send it to ya.. like last time.. download it and tell me what u think.. k ;) well, have a great rest of the week.. and ill see u all at Vibe Creation 2 for ma birthday :) PLUR.... MUAH.. valerie AKA sparkles ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 00:03:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19710 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 00:03:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 19675 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 00:03:02 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 00:03:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 29345 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 00:03:01 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 00:03:01 -0000 Received: from omzz (organic@stk-ts4-h1-21-135.ispmodems.net [209.162.21.135]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA26595; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904270002.RAA26595@pop.thegrid.net> X-Sender: i038597@mail.thegrid.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:47:43 -0600 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: omz Subject: FREE MUSIC network exchange (MD) Cc: sacraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk whos interested in trading Minidiscs.?? join the free music network because were already being ripped off as it is... email me for my list. or put your list on a network to exchange with others.. omz@kfc2000 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 00:10:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24402 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 00:10:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 24385 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 00:10:10 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 00:10:10 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09035; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:51:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: Jeffrey Surratt , Crystal Christison , "'Eyeawake@hotmail.com'" , "'sevennone@hotmail.com'" , "'jesse_1977@hotmail.com'" , "'ckbayor@aol.com'" , "'Aaron_Brewer@excite.com'" , "'cranberry@jps.net'" , "'daniel_hunt@hotmail.com'" , "'mich_Hunt@hotmail.com'" Cc: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: NRR:Funny little story Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:51:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > Having her hair done at a West Hempstead, NY, beauty parlor, a Woman told a > cautionary tale about racial prejudice. The story deserves a wider audience. > > On a recent weekend in Atlantic City, the woman related, she won a bucketful > of quarters at a slot machine. She took a break from the slots for dinner > with her husband in the hotel dining room. But first she would stash the > quarters in her room. I'll be right back and we'll go to eat," she told her > husband and she carried the coin-laden bucket to the elevator. As she was > about to walk into the elevator she noticed two men already aboard. Both >were > black. One of them was big... Very big... An intimidating figure. > > The woman froze. Her first thought was: These two are going to rob me. > Her next thought was: Don't be a bigot, they look like perfectly nice > gentlemen, even if one of them is awfully black. But racial stereotypes > are powerful, and fear immobilized her. > > She stood and stared at the two men. She felt anxious, flustered, ashamed. > She hoped they didn't read her mind but knew they surely did; her hesitation > about joining them on the elevator was all too obvious. Her face burned. > She couldn't just stand there, so with a mighty effort of will she picked up > one foot and stepped forward and followed with the other foot and was on > the elevator. Avoiding eye contact, she turned around stiffly and faced the > elevator doors as they closed. A second passed, and then another second, > and then another. The elevator didn't move. Panic consumed her. My > God, she thought, I'm trapped and about to be robbed! > > Her heart plummeted. Perspiration poured from every pore. Then one of > the men said, "Hit the floor." > > Instinct told her: Do what they tell you. The bucket of quarters flew > upwards as she threw out her arms and collapsed on the elevator carpet. > > A shower of coins rained down on her. Take my money and spare me, she >prayed. > More seconds passed. She heard one of the men say politely, "Ma'am, if you'll > just tell us what floor you're going to, we'll push the button." The >one who > said it had a little trouble getting the words out. > He was trying mightily to hold in a belly laugh. She lifted her head and > looked up at the two men. They reached down to help her up. Confused, she > struggled to her feet. > > "When I told my man here to hit the floor," one of the men, the average > sized one, told her, "I meant that he should hit the elevator button for our > floor. I didn't mean for you to hit the floor, ma'am. He spoke genially. > > He bit his lip. It was obvious he was having a hard time not laughing. > > She thought: My God, what a spectacle I've made of myself. She was too > humiliated to speak. She wanted to blurt out an apology, but words failed > her. How do you apologize to two perfectly respectable gentlemen for > behaving as though they were robbing you? She didn't know. The 3 of them > gathered up the strewn quarters and refilled her bucket. When the elevator > arrived at her floor they insisted on walking her to her room. > > She seemed a little unsteady on her feet, and they were afraid she might not > make it down the corridor. At her door they bid her good evening. As she > slipped into her room she could hear them laughing while they walked back > to the elevator. > > The woman brushed herself off. She pulled herself together and went downstairs > for dinner with her husband. > > The next morning flowers were delivered to her room ~ a dozen roses. >Attached > to each rose was a crisp one hundred dollar bill. A card said: "Thanks for the > best laugh we've had in years." It was signed, > >> Eddie Murphy and Bodyguard. > > > > > > "The only thing worse than being blind is not having > vision!" > --Helen Keller > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 00:35:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9795 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 00:35:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 9778 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 00:35:09 -0000 Received: from mail-gw6.pacbell.net (206.13.28.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 00:35:09 -0000 Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-209-79-196-98.scrm01.pacbell.net [209.79.196.98]) by mail-gw6.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id RAA23023; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37245E04.BA21069B@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 05:37:27 -0700 From: dr_XeNo Organization: KDVS DJ/USDAFS Genetics Lab Asst. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-PBI-NC404 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Davis Family , SFRaves , SacRaves , BlueGlue Subject: BSP: *TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA* f. The Optimist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 'Lo there, PLURry peeps! Here's tha info fer tonite's show.... The Optimist is an up and coming junglist from tha East Bay, representin' ta help out our alum here @UCD, Sherry Koyama. He'll be providing tha beatz fer her newest art show, coming this Friday to the Basement Gallery. All these beatz r for tha hedz, so give some room if u aren't true! ;-) Also, thanx to everyone that pledged last show....T-IE cleared almost 400 dollars in pledges, and the station as a whole decimated the past record taking in over 25,000 dollars....stay chooned for that long awaited quality upgrade and wattage boost from 5000 watts to 9200 watts! BTW, check out tha latest KDViationS Program Guide for an article by moi! :-) Take care, and njoi tha show..... _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ !Sherry Koyama Art Show Warmup! Friday, May 1st Featuring: The Optimist/East Bay Other Giveaways: The Optimist Mixtapes Check us out on 90.3FM KDVS, Davis from 10-midnite PST..... Or if yer outta range, on RealAudio, off tha show's page: http://tek.cjb.net Request Line: 530-752-2777 As usual, I'll be online during tha whole show in tha #sfraves room on IRC, checking me email, and on AOhelL's IM as drXeNo6, not including dr_XeNo6 on Yahoo! Pager. ;-) Or, try me on ICQ #18463830. Be sure ta call in n say wazzup! U kidz take care........ :-) -- <<>> 90.3FM KDVS, Davis dr_XeNo@pacbell.net IM= drXeNo6 ICQ= #18463830 http://drxeno.cjb.net/ 90.3FM KDVS, Davis -----\/ Every Other Mon Nite, 10-Midnite: _*TeK-IndUced EuPHoriA*_ Listen On RealAudio and See Tha Calendar @ ------\/ http://tek.cjb.net/ <<<<<>>>>> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 00:43:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15743 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 00:43:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15683 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 00:43:07 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 00:43:07 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.153] (ghana-153.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.153]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28312; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:42:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990426162655.12464.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:02:07 -0700 To: Jess ica , SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: Re: ReVIsed My version :): (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Cc: Rob Oliver Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk well let me add something to this. when i am going to do something creative i listen to music. housework is even creative. when i need to think though, music gets turned off. At 9:26 AM -0700 26-04-1999, Jess ica wrote: >Great quote, it is soooo true about tv, trust me I have been sick in >bed for 4 days with tonsilitis, ear infections, all kinds of weird >sh*t, and I have had my share of television. I know I am really sick >when MTV can bring me to tears. ugh. So i turn the radio on... > ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... > >"When you want to turn your mind on, you go to the >MUSIC. When you want to turn your mind off, you go to your television." > > > >--- Deepfog wrote: >> Hello...today's quote is... >> > >> >> ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your >> computer screen >> mailto:deepfog@hooked.net >> http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog >> +510-805-1415 vox >> life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... >> >> >> > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 01:11:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 242 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 01:11:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 117 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 01:11:08 -0000 Received: from web216.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.116) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 01:11:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427010855.15615.rocketmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.170.33.164] by web216.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:08:55 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:08:55 -0700 (PDT) From: The Red Stickman Subject: Re: Fwd: Sad News. To: MIB271@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am seriously gonna cry. How many times have we gone, "oh, 'so n so' is spinning at ______. He/She always comes up to the bay area...I'll catch him/her next time." Good lord. :( this is so wrong. michael o)-< --- MIB271@aol.com wrote: > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Reply-To: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk > From: "Drum'n'Bass Arena" > To: list DNB > Subject: Sad News. > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:40:38 +0100 > > Kemistry (one half of the female DJ duo Kemistry & > Storm) has died in a > motorway accident. > Our deepest sympathies go out to her family and > those close to her. > Pay your respects - > http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/jungle/kemistry.html > > peace... > > - The Risky - > Drum'n'Bass Arena > http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 01:44:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17543 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 01:44:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 17534 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 01:44:54 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 01:44:54 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.221] (seoul-221.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.221]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA27504 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:44:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: echo@mail.wenet.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:44:43 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: je Subject: MAZE BSP: who is... Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who is D.A.V.E. the Drummer? D.A.V.E. the Drummer is a prolific and talented producer on such labels as Stay Up Forever, Cluster, Smitten, Off the Wall, and soon his own label, Hydrolix. He is a long time member of the Liberator Crew, London's free-spirited, party hard, underground sound system. His live sets have "laid waste" to crowds from Amsterdam to Phoenix, London to L.A. He's a nice guy. He'll kick your ass. :) MAZE Friday May 21 w/ Adam X from Sonic Groove, NY D.A.V.E. the Drummer, Live, UK 415.263.6750 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 01:51:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20868 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 01:50:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 20857 invoked by uid 233); 27 Apr 1999 01:50:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 28857 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 14:59:40 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 14:59:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426145311.11442.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.40.40.14] by attach1; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:53:11 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:53:11 -0700 (PDT) From: da'Wolf Subject: re:da'Wolf's Divergent review To: syncopated@hotmail.com, byroni@ccnet.com, kandle@uclink4.berkeley.edu, Daynah.K.Hooper@ncal.kaiperm.org, boddhi@aol.com, neserees@uclink4.berkeley.edu, eric-spire@silverpearl.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, happy.raver@mailcity.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Good Morning Raver Family, This be da'Wolf with my weekend review... I had to work Friday night but I got home and into bed so as to rest up for my allnighter me and my friends had set up...my day started with beer and was beer and bongs most of the next 12-14 hours, accompanied by much beautiful music and a gang of cool friends... We here at Five Families want to thank all of you who came out and partied with us in Sunnyvale at the Quarternote and a big thank you to Matt (and shane) for the use of his home for the afterparty!!!! YAY!!!!! Thanks also to Eric Spire for the use of his sound system, the Quarternot never heard such clear (and I'm sure annoying to the regulars) music!! The evening started out with a newcomer by the name of Diversion, who set the tone for the evening, upbeat and techish, keep it up man your a star in the making...oh and sorry about your ride, I hope you got home allright... Next up was keith e and skyscraper, and their dueling turntables, who showed that trance and techno run smooooothly as ice...everyone danced and everyone seemed to have a good time especially when boomerang, the king of chilllll, threw everything and then some at us...different, very differnt!!!...later micron, gEoff and Macadio tore up the tables and the floor was never absent of nice happy bodies...it sucked when 1:45 came and we all had to pack it up, next time it'll be allllll night longgggg...its really great to finally hear these guys spin after seeing their names for a while...thanks guys for helping make this the best party we at Five Families have thrown so far... Then it was on to the afterparty... There the ravers who dare to see the dawn were treated to the sounds pristine of amber, dj d, supreme-c, and then the man himself Joaqman...the party was phat and most stayed until the end...was it 10am? all I remember was lots o light, and lots of lazy hugs!! Thanks everyone who came and helped conquer the night and I hope to see all of ya at the next Five Families event on May 14...REDROOM Everyone should also pass on a note of thanks to Joaqman who put most of the work into this event...this man knows raves and taught me everything I know...ok well I taught him to dance (jk).... Peace da'Wolf PS...Everyone should also say goodbye to one of our raver friends...HappyRaver is going back to Canada and boy will we all miss you...the past few months have been one of the most enjoyable experiences of my raving life and you were very much apart of my happy vibe...Thanks... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 01:54:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23344 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 01:53:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 23322 invoked by uid 233); 27 Apr 1999 01:53:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 805 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 18:19:45 -0000 Received: from web129.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 18:19:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426182000.24794.rocketmail@web129.yahoomail.com> Received: from [38.28.75.237] by web129.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:20:00 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:20:00 -0700 (PDT) From: dmarie Subject: ***Please pray...for DJ Kemistry*** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, dmarie yo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ...please bow your head in a moment of silence for the beautiful DJ Kemistry...who passed away this weekend in a car accident. ***her inner strength and light will shine through us all*** **We here at groundscore admired and loved her, we were passsionate about her and Storm's accomplishments, and we respected her SO MUCH!** **life is precious, please remember** From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 01:55:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24455 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 01:55:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 24446 invoked by uid 233); 27 Apr 1999 01:55:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 7654 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 19:48:55 -0000 Received: from law-f198.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 19:48:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 68608 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 19:48:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426194813.68607.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.111 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:48:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.111] From: "michael waldren" To: NThompson@pgmusa.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:48:13 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am baby bear, Just wanted to say that i love everyone ttoday, and i am not sure why. Usually i am bitter and confused, but what is up Naomi, i am back and cant wait to hear from you. "your everyday junglist" Mikey >From: Naomi Thompson >To: "'SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.ORG'" >Subject: NRR >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:37:55 -0700 > >IS ANYONE OUT THERE AS BORED AS I AM? > >NAOMI From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 02:04:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27948 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 02:04:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 27940 invoked by uid 233); 27 Apr 1999 02:04:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14503 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1999 23:51:59 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd125.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.189) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 1999 23:51:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 83318 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 23:51:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426235132.83317.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.211.80.58 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:51:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.211.80.58] From: "Nina Phaeton" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, candygemms@hotmail.com Subject: *hey, i'm leaving!* Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:51:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_6ea4cf39_2f0c9d49$2b55d3f5" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_6ea4cf39_2f0c9d49$2b55d3f5 Content-type: text/plain Being subscribed to sfraves is too much for hotmail. So, to cut down my account size, i am unsubscribing. But, I would love it if you ALL keep in touch with me. DJs and ALL you people PUH LEEZE email me with your email addies or something. See You ALL later. PLUR, **candygemms** aka Nina Phaeton ------=_NextPart_000_6ea4cf39_2f0c9d49$2b55d3f5 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_7a9bb8cc_2f0c9d49$2b55d3f5" ------=_NextPart_001_7a9bb8cc_2f0c9d49$2b55d3f5 Content-type: text/html

Being subscribed to sfraves is too much for hotmail. So, to cut down
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keep in touch with me. DJs and ALL you people PUH LEEZE email me with
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PLUR,

**candygemms**
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In-Reply-To: <19990427010855.15615.rocketmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I *AM* crying! I'm one of those ones who never got to make it to their gigs and AM HITTING MYSELF FOR IT TOO! In retrospect, I have a great Kemmy& storm tape live in 98 somewhere, if I find it, first 10 people to respond, in memory of this pioneer in dnb, i'll dub you a copy. is that cool?! :) Time for me to go find the tape. We;ve suffered a major loss in the dnb scene guys, this is REALLY A BUMMER! :(~ Love and peace, Lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, The Red Stickman wrote: > I am seriously gonna cry. How many times have we > gone, "oh, 'so n so' is spinning at ______. He/She > always comes up to the bay area...I'll catch him/her > next time." > > Good lord. :( > this is so wrong. > > michael > o)-< > > --- MIB271@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > > Reply-To: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk > > From: "Drum'n'Bass Arena" > > To: list DNB > > Subject: Sad News. > > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:40:38 +0100 > > > > Kemistry (one half of the female DJ duo Kemistry & > > Storm) has died in a > > motorway accident. > > Our deepest sympathies go out to her family and > > those close to her. > > Pay your respects - > > http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/jungle/kemistry.html > > > > peace... > > > > - The Risky - > > Drum'n'Bass Arena > > http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 02:48:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13671 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 02:48:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 13636 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 02:48:14 -0000 Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.185) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 02:48:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427025724.14625.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.15.252] by web303.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:57:24 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:57:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: First Kemistry - now Roger ZAPP! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk While I was still reeling from the loss of Kemistry I heard the sad news of the murder of Roger Troutman of Zapp - A figure I consider to be the missing link between Funk & Electro ... Jurg who used to own the Kennel Club (Now the Justice League) once told me that Zapp were his favorite Act he ever hosted because they functioned as a total commune ... At least Roger & Kemistry had each others' good company on their flight! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 03:28:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27217 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 03:28:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 27199 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 03:28:31 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (HELO beaver.slip.net) (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 03:28:31 -0000 Received: from [209.209.15.180] (helo=maxik) by mole.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10byXr-0003zh-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:28:27 -0700 Message-ID: <001001be905d$381aeec0$b40fd1d1@maxik.slip.net> From: "Maxik" To: Subject: dj kEMISTRY Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:22:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How did it happen? Whose fault is it? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 03:41:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2667 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 03:41:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 2653 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 03:41:40 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 03:41:40 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14407) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBEFa03242 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:36:54 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <3d2a94fd.245678f6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:20:38 EDT Subject: Re: da'Wolf's Divergent review To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone. Just a little thought on Joaqman. Even though Five Families is throwing thier own party the night of May 14th Joaqman offered to play at our party too. He is one awesome guy. I just wanted to say mad props to Joaqman and thanks for spreading the love. Peace, M Groove On From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 03:53:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6823 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 03:53:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 6814 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 03:53:20 -0000 Received: from law2-f115.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.115) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 03:53:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 84643 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 03:54:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427035400.84642.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:54:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "didu hearthat" To: stefango@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: First Kemistry - now Roger ZAPP! Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:54:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Amazing. This year is going to be nothing but lessons. i was getting ready to write something about Kemi and then here comes this. Just the intial shock of death is so intense. The finality. And Skylar's death for me was the first person who i'd seen on a regular basis, not be there anymore (in physical form). But i keep learning because i feel like her spirit is with me almost everytime i dance and also when i sing at eklektik in particular. gosh, i guess this sound strange.i don't know. i do know that i am thankful and glad i know so many purely beauty-filled people. i am reminded of some of the most powerful lyrics i've ever heard from a goldie song who's name always forget. i don't wanna go play it now, cause i know i'll cry. but maybe i should. "i feel warm rain, runnin down my face, i embrace all the love that lies around me, i feel no shame, nothing to erase, i wouldn't change a single day that lies before me" with love and respect for you all rashida >From: Stefan Gosiewski >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: First Kemistry - now Roger ZAPP! >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:57:24 -0700 (PDT) > >While I was still reeling from the loss of Kemistry I heard the sad >news of the murder of Roger Troutman of Zapp - A figure I consider to >be the missing link between Funk & Electro ... Jurg who used to own the Kennel Club (Now the Justice League) once told me that Zapp were his favorite Act he ever hosted because they functioned as a total commune. At least Roger & Kemistry had each others' good company on their flight! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 04:50:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2134 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 04:50:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 2122 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 04:50:20 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.171) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 04:50:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 92160 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 04:50:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427045026.92159.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.179.149.71 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:50:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.179.149.71] From: "dj _haK" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: kemi ;( Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:50:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeh, very sad news. i have tapes of her going back to 9four. really wished i made it up to see her and storm ;( the crappy thing is the accident had nutin' to do with her car. yet again, another driver takes the life of others.... peace, hak ps: everyone pick up kemi & storm mix CD offa K7! help support her family and storm and the metalheadz c From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 05:11:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10823 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 05:11:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 10815 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 05:11:24 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 05:11:24 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (8045) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vORRa05845 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:10:51 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <812e6a2a.2456a075@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:09:09 EDT Subject: Re: Thought Control......yup To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THIS TAPE RAWKS!!! hehehe i bought it on a whim and went beserk on the first track. hehe luv that lil sci fi journey! ah such musical bliss ^_^ alas.....my tape is broken..... *sniff* the tape itself inside the case is looped over and twisted and disfigured in most manners. and the saddest bit is i dont know how the hell it got this way :( im so sad! :P shtoopid shtoopid shtoopid i shouldnta left it in mah bag. -aaron but yeah buy it ish goo From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 05:19:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14859 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 05:19:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 14706 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 05:19:03 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 05:19:03 -0000 Received: from KrylonPimp@aol.com (7988) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEUCa20227 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:10:13 -0400 (EDT) From: KrylonPimp@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:52:33 EDT Subject: NRR: graff drama in sac To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: KrylonPimp@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey people, A kid I knew off the Internet and ran into at few parties got arrested a couple days ago. It's unbelievably wack how things went down. If your interested read this. http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local11_19990424.html -omenONE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 06:04:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27340 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 06:04:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 27309 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 06:03:57 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 06:03:57 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA16347; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990426225525.00b03174@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:55:30 -0700 To: Deepfog , SFRavEs Mailing List From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Cc: Rob Oliver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ON THE JOY OF TV (that most sinful of pleasures) all forms of media have the same potential to be the conduit for works of beauty. witness: Twin Peaks The Simpsons PBS Cartoon Network and the list goes on. you may not necessarily enjoy these particular examples of programming, but somebody somewhere feels joy when they watch them. remember: television makes art accessible to everyone on earth. whether you are an illiterate manual laborer or an Ivy-educated corporate visionary, you can always relax, put up your feet, and immerse yourself in the bath of passive entertainment. and it's free. the price? indoctrination into western cultural mores. not that you can really avoid that. watch the banners drift by on each successive page you link to. sort through the endless piles of spam in your inbox. and don't forget the little "Get your free e-mail" tag at the bottom of all those posts. submit to a little hypnotism and gain access to an infinitely entertaining toy. as Matt Groening once wrote, "When you're tired, TV does the playing for you." afraid of losing your imagination? don't just watch TV, observe it. how are they selling that product to you? how close to reality is the interaction on that soap opera? despite Madison Avenue's best intentions, you CAN gain awareness just from staring at the boob tube. gotta go before i miss the next commercial break. tune in this saturday for Outer Space on channel (415) 267-3930. --------------------------------- "A Coke is a Coke and no amount of money can get you a better Coke than the one the bum on the corner is drinking. All the Cokes are the same and all the Cokes are good. Liz Taylor knows it, the President knows it, the bum knows it, and you know it." - Andy Warhol From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 07:01:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22196 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 07:01:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 22185 invoked by uid 233); 27 Apr 1999 07:01:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Lara To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Kemistry/Storm tapeRe: Fwd: Sad News. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi guys! I'm about to head for bed but wanted to say anyone who has e-mailed me about the tape so far will get a copy, it will take awhile though, hope you don't mind. Sorry to the rest of you, but you can pick up a copy of one of their tapes/cd's I'm sure somewhere out there! I'll reply personally to those of you who already responded after i get some sleep. much lovin, lara ---- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Lara wrote: > I *AM* crying! I'm one of those ones who never got to make it to their > gigs and AM HITTING MYSELF FOR IT TOO! > In retrospect, I have a great Kemmy& storm tape live in 98 somewhere, if I > find it, first 10 people to respond, in memory of this pioneer in dnb, > i'll dub you a copy. > is that cool?! :) Time for me to go find the tape. > We;ve suffered a major loss in the dnb scene guys, this is REALLY > A BUMMER! :(~ > Love and peace, > Lara > ---- > "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." > -- Oscar Wilde > > On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, The Red Stickman wrote: > > > I am seriously gonna cry. How many times have we > > gone, "oh, 'so n so' is spinning at ______. He/She > > always comes up to the bay area...I'll catch him/her > > next time." > > > > Good lord. :( > > this is so wrong. > > > > michael > > o)-< > > > > --- MIB271@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > > > Reply-To: dnb@breakbeat.co.uk > > > From: "Drum'n'Bass Arena" > > > To: list DNB > > > Subject: Sad News. > > > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:40:38 +0100 > > > > > > Kemistry (one half of the female DJ duo Kemistry & > > > Storm) has died in a > > > motorway accident. > > > Our deepest sympathies go out to her family and > > > those close to her. > > > Pay your respects - > > > http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/jungle/kemistry.html > > > > > > peace... > > > > > > - The Risky - > > > Drum'n'Bass Arena > > > http://www.breakbeat.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 08:02:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11433 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 08:02:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 11416 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 08:02:26 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 08:02:26 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id BAA29859; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:02:24 -0700 Message-ID: <002301be9084$85a7c4c0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: House as Relection of Soul Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:04:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yep, I am finally done with my paper for my C LIT class (that's Comparitive Literature, I don't know what you were thinking!) and that's the title of it! Of course, it's about 18th/19th century literature of the fantastic, but I just thought you househeads would get a kick out of the title. Hmm... maybe the teacher will read into it, and turn out to be a closet raver... doubtful, but you never know, they lurk everywhere!! Peace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 09:27:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3011 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 09:27:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 2954 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 09:27:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web701.mail.yahoo.com) (128.11.23.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 09:27:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427092639.22213.rocketmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.204.24.18] by web701.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:26:39 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:26:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Happy Raver Reply-To: happy2rave@yahoo.com Subject: Mini-Reviews: The Last Rave Weekend :( To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: moloch@uclink4.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello beautiful people! I submit these reviews to you, with great sadness and much love intertwined in my heart. I am leaving the Bay area and the Bay party scene this week, to return to my studies in Canada. These four months have shown me the most extraordinary musical and emotional and spiritual leg of my journey through life so far. If you don't want to read the reviews, just skip to my goodbye in part 5. 1. Tuesday: Pleasure - SJ The new Tuesday weekly at The Agenda was kicked off in good fashion with several local SJ house dj's inaugerating the beautiful upstairs space at The Agenda. Big, big props to young Justin Hale especially, who showed he is a house force to contend with! He even got me, a confirmed trancehead, to bust moves to his smokin' wax. Not too many party kids were in attendance, mostly bar-folk, but a good time was had by all! The vibe was real pleasant, and here's hoping it stays that way in weeks to come. I'm gonna try and hit it again tomorrow night... 2. Friday: 1015 - SF Ah, John Digweed, live!!! Flux & Footloose, with live MC's!! I spent the early part of the evening in the basement with Flux (was that MC Duh on the mic? hi Max!) warming up for Digweed's arrival. I've got to listen/dance to more jungle! This stuff kicks, and the jungleheads are hella laid back. MC'd jungle definitely kicks it over plain ole' DnB!! I'm a convert for life! Nice to see Stickman and deepbeep there too... where was Prophet? And Digweed! He started mellow, housey, and worked his way into a tech-house fervour into the wee hours... it was all gold and the dancers in the house loved every track, every segue, every mix... the air got too smokey for me, though, and at 2:30am I headed for the basement again to work it with the jungle crew. Who was that lady MC, was it Ty? Marie? Between the MC and Footloose, the place threatened to explode with a burst of jungle flava! Danced till I couldn't stand up straight, and headed home to sleep a few hours before a Saturday workday... :P 3. Saturday: Dive-Urgency/AfterParty - So. Bay OK, Dive-Urgency was our party (5 Families), so I'm partial, but this and by far the best vibe/turnout/sound/traxx/love of the three Divergent Regions I've attended! And it'll only get better, like a snowball gaining mass and momentum... So many *friendly*, *positive* people, so many excellent trance DJ's, such good warm vibes! Joaqman, magiclovefairy, da'Wolf and the crew craft their parties as a thing of love, and it shows. I'm so glad to have been a part of the crew, what little I could contribute. Thanks to Diversion, Keith E., Skyscraper, Micron, Macadio, and the redoubtable B))merang, for searing sets, one and all! But extra special warmth and love to gEoff ;) for his lyric yet driving set of trance classics. (Thanks for the gift!) If you like Halcyon + on + on, you must get gEoff's next tape: he mixes it with Opus III's "It's a Fine Day", which is where the woman's voice on Halcyon is sampled from! It's rare to hear a DJ who doesn't just play fave tracks or show off tricks, but reveals something--about life, about the human spirit, or even just about music. Please please please, hear gEoff play out if you can, and be sober if possible! Go to Stargaze V this summer! And then, our super special afterparty at Psifire's place was so tremendously pervaded with good vibe, I couldn't stop smiling!! (Yes, I was sober! A sober happiness is the best!) Due to some confusion and overlap with Shane Knapp's house party, Thomas Trouble didn't spin, but he kicked back and enjoyed himself as a mere mortal partier as Shane and DJ Amber traded off some jungle beats, then DJ D gave a blazing set of hard/acid trance, which put me back on the trance track. SupremeC then busted out some eclectic trance tunes, which led into Joaqman's unique teknow, superfine blend. Shane finished the night with a perfectly dreamy ambient/jazzy jungle as the sun warmed the sky and birthed a new day out of the darkness... 4. Thank you's, etc: Saturday, both parts, were by far the best party experience *and* the best social evening I have ever spent while in the SFBay area! Many many thanks to the DJ's at both parties, esp. Thomas and Denise for making the effort to come, and hugs and hellos to everyone who came to say goodbye or hello to me: Amber (not the DJ), Rachel, Jason, John (did u find Animal?), Peter (thanks for the tape!), Geoff, Byroni, Fiona, Skye, Mook, Steph, Kurt, Eric, Heather, Amber (the DJ), RobinT, Cesar, Kevin, the other Kevin (B.), Gabe, Sooz & Chris, Mari & Dave, Dan, Skee, Vertigo, Vitaly, Michele & Curtis, and everyone else I am inexcusably forgetting! Thanks to the SilverPearl crew for the divine sound and for expert set-up/take-down. And final hugs to my family, Jonas, Daynah, Kurt, and my real-life supa-huggable beanie-baby, Teen Queen. I'm already missing your hugs!! :( 5. Final words: I have made friends for life here, whose depth of love and compassion and generosity and fun have inspired me to live my life a little bit more nobly, a little bit more fully. (Jonas, Daynah, Kurt, BJ, I'm talking about you!!) I have also met so many positive people in the party scene, which gives me hope that the scene will maintain a positive and uplifting quality that can balance and ennoble the everpresent grime, gunk, fronting and unhealthy hedonism, which constantly threaten to submerge the party scene. And people like Eric Spire, gEoff ;), and Joaqman are (maybe unconsciously) helping young and old partiers alike find a touch of community and divinity in the music and in the scene. I speak in ideals, but it is our life's journey, I believe, to cherish and share the pearls we find in the mire. I beg you to watch where crews like SilverPearl, Stargaze, and 5 Families are going, and to support their parties, no matter what size, shape or flavor. And get to know promoters/DJ's/crew members personally: say hi, tell them if you like them, if they are doing a great job, if you are enjoying their party! Make the effort to treat every party as if *you* were throwing it. How would you behave at your own party? What would you do to ensure that the party was good, and that people enjoyed themselves? Positive feedback and constructive criticisms are required to help the party scene spiral upward rather than plummet downward. And keep in mind that the best gauge of a party's greatness is the quality of the individual or individuals at the head of a party crew. Their hearts directly pump lifeblood into the quality, positivity, and warmth of the party. (Bad heart = bad blood = bad vibe = bad party) I tried to give to the scene what I could in terms of kindness, friendship, inclusiveness, generousity, and a sense of fun, and to experience each party in the most positive light I could, and I hope the SF rave scene has gained from me as much as I have gained from it. Frankly, IMO there shouldn't be any real difference between how one participates in the party scene and how one participates in life. (except for the substances!) Generosity and love and community (and good music) are worth fighting for in every circle of life. I'll miss you all. Keep it real, and keep it upbeat: If it ain't fun, then why do it? === Alex the Happy Raver don't love until you love yourself don't give unless it's free... =) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 10:38:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9758 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 10:38:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 9747 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 10:38:36 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 10:38:36 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (7814) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rYUEa05754; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:09:12 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:50:35 EDT Subject: Re: First Kemistry - now Roger ZAPP! To: stefango@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OUCH, all this death hurts. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 13:00:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16283 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 13:00:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 16257 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 13:00:40 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 13:00:40 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.216] (libya-216.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.216]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26255; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:00:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:22:15 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Tue) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BEETS (not beats) The beet is a wonderful vegetable, but people resist it, partly because of its sweetness. When beets are treated to the acidic nip of vinegar and lemon or the warmth of spices, however, many take to them with enthusiasm. Beets are available year-round but are best from summer to fall, when they're truly in season. The leaves are mild and tender like chard, the roots earthy and sweet. ---Deborah Madison ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 16:08:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22899 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 16:08:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 22887 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 16:08:43 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 16:08:43 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA19712; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA05386; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:01:50 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: KrylonPimp@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: graff drama in sac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yes, the situation is completly wack, but that guy was also extremly stupid. when you tag (knowing it is illegal) you keep your identity secret. you don't brag all over the net about it, posting stuff on a website. big brother is watching people. here's just another case. a small one, but a warning to all of us to be careful. much love, amber On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 KrylonPimp@aol.com wrote: > > hey people, > > A kid I knew off the Internet and ran into at few parties got arrested a > couple days ago. It's unbelievably wack how things went down. If your > interested read this. > > http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local11_19990424.html > > -omenONE > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 17:16:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1316 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 17:16:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 1058 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 17:16:23 -0000 Received: from mail.starfish.com (205.231.210.84) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 17:16:23 -0000 Received: from BKAGAN_P166 ([192.216.180.184]) by mail.starfish.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52234U200L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:07:16 -0700 From: "Bradley Kagan" To: Subject: NRR-My thought for the day and for you Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:13:17 -0700 Message-ID: <000e01be90d1$3e048200$b8b4d8c0@BKAGAN_P166.starfish.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I got this from the last list I was on. I'm not sure if you all have read it but here it is. Sorry for the length but I think its well worth it. The first part is mine and what I have to say to you. The second is what I got from the last list. Enjoy. I dedicate this to all of us in this scene. What we in this underground scene do and know is very special. Most people don't know what we are about. Most people don't feel the love as we do. Most people cant hear what we hear. Most people are afraid of us and what we have to give because they don't understand it. When most of the world is spreading anger and hate we are out there spreading love and happiness. Whenever I am down I know I can fall back on all of you and I don't even know you. All I do is go to a party and you are all there for me as I am for you. We are all rare and very, very special in this chaotic world and we must give ourselves props. We are the few who live as we where intended. Free, loving, uninhibited souls who spread our magick wherever we go and whatever we do. We are all the music. Love, Brad I am music, most ancient of the arts. I am more than ancient. I am eternal. Even before life commenced upon this earth. I was here - in the winds and the waves when the first trees and flowers and grasses appeared. I was among them. And when man came. I at once became the most delicate, most subtle, and most powerful medium for the expression of Man's emotions. When man were little better than beasts, I influenced them for their good. In all ages I have inspired men with hope, kindled their love, given a voice to their joys, cheered them on to valorous deeds and soothed them in times of despair. I have played a great part in the drama of life, whose end and purpose is the complete perfection of man's nature. Through my influence human nature has been uplifted, sweetened and refined. With the aid of man I have become a fine art. From Tubaicain to Thomas Edison a long line of the brightest minds have devoted themselves to the perfection of instruments through which man may utilize my powers and enjoy my charms. I have myriads of voices and instruments. I am in the hearts of all men and on their tongues, in all lands and among all peoples, the ignorant and unlettered know me, not less than the rich and learned. For I speak to all men, in a language that all understand. Even the deaf hear me, if they but listen to the voices of their own soul. I am the food of love. I have tought man gentleness and peace and I have led them onward to heroic deeds. I comfort the lonely, and I harmonize the discord of crowds. I am a necessary luxury to all men. I am music. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 17:21:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5739 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 17:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 5724 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 17:21:48 -0000 Received: from web104.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 17:21:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427172335.6668.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web104.yahoomail.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:23:35 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: NRR: Cracked Out Tuesdays To: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It is strange that there are hardly ever that many post that come out on Tuesdays. Monday mornings I open my mail box and it has 150-200 messages from the weekend and then all Monday there are the reply post coming in and then by Tuesday it dwindles down. I think it is some sort of reflash of the weekend. Mondays are not effected cus of all the stuff everyone puts off on Friday to do on Monday and plus all the new stuff that comes in make Mondays too busy to be cracked out. And who wants to waste any part of their time off to be [cracked-out] on Sundays? So Tuesdays are the first real day the we can fit it in to our soo busy schedules. heehee. Well I hope everyone has a restful Tuesday. =D *HUGZ* pat PS: For those concerned, I used the term "cracked-out" loosely and has no referance toward drug use just super tired and fatigue, but you all knew that anyhoo. ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 17:32:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11068 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 17:32:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 11054 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 17:32:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.starfish.com) (208.222.97.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 17:32:17 -0000 Received: from BKAGAN_P166 ([192.216.180.184]) by mail.starfish.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52234U200L100S0V35) with SMTP id com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:22:27 -0700 From: "Bradley Kagan" To: "Patrick Seaton" , "SF Ravers" Subject: RE: Cracked Out Tuesdays Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:28:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01be90d3$5d68c8c0$b8b4d8c0@BKAGAN_P166.starfish.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19990427172335.6668.rocketmail@web104.yahoomail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It usally takes me till thursday. > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Patrick Seaton > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:24 AM > To: SF Ravers > Subject: NRR: Cracked Out Tuesdays > > > It is strange that there are hardly ever that many post that come out > on Tuesdays. Monday mornings I open my mail box and it has 150-200 > messages from the weekend and then all Monday there are the reply post > coming in and then by Tuesday it dwindles down. I think it is some > sort of reflash of the weekend. Mondays are not effected cus of all > the stuff everyone puts off on Friday to do on Monday and plus all the > new stuff that comes in make Mondays too busy to be cracked out. And > who wants to waste any part of their time off to be [cracked-out] on > Sundays? So Tuesdays are the first real day the we can fit it in to > our soo busy schedules. heehee. > Well I hope everyone has a restful Tuesday. =D > > *HUGZ* > pat > > PS: For those concerned, I used the term "cracked-out" loosely and has > no referance toward drug use just super tired and fatigue, but you all > knew that anyhoo. ;) > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 18:04:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24952 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 18:04:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 24813 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 18:04:01 -0000 Received: from law2-f23.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 18:04:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 14503 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 18:03:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427180334.14502.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.142.2.41 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:03:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.142.2.41] From: "Blixa Karma" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: friends? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:03:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So my computer has been down for the past few weeks and I am so very glad that I have had so many off-list replies to my "my life :-]" post. I must thank you all. NOT! So it is very nice to know that all this time I've been "julies husband" and not a friend to any of you. To those of you who whom I dont know yet, you have given me the hope that ravers havent changed. And that it means something to offer your friendship. I thank you. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 18:53:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27839 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 18:53:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 27830 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 18:53:23 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 18:53:23 -0000 Received: from CandEKid60@aol.com (14433) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHYGa23549; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:52:49 -0400 (EDT) From: CandEKid60@aol.com Message-ID: <6d558da0.24576180@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:52:48 EDT Subject: HI To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: JiMmE420@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Reply-To: CandEKid60@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK I WAS WONDERING WHO IS GOIN TO VORGS HI PARTY ON FRIDAY.....IM CURIOUS ON THIS NEW LOCATION THEY R SUPPOSED TO HAVE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 19:07:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6318 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 19:07:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 6302 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 19:07:04 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 19:07:04 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Tue Apr 27 12:06:29 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:06:29 -0700 From: "Matt Schwartz" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th X-Sender-Ip: 17.128.200.241 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Whassup folks, Here's a party for all of you older types who, like myself, can't stand the 1015 meat market types and hoochies ;-) The Line-up is PHAT, and the vibe will be kickin' ETHEREAL May14th in SF 21+ $10.00 Three Rooms (415) 207-6283 Here's the DJ line-up, I'm not exactly sure how it's gonna be set-up but I'm guessing it will go something like this Techno/Trance/House Room: David Hopper Progressive House (LA) DyLoot Techno Micron Trance Li Techno/House Andy W Techno Jungle & Breaks Room: Soul Kid Funky Breaks (Orlando) Science Jungle Megatron Jungle Thorfio Breaks & Hard House (bsp) DysFunctional House Plus a few other unconfirmed favorites :-) Peace, Matt HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 19:09:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8748 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 19:09:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 8729 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 19:09:13 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 19:09:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427190729.2371.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.21] by web4; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:07:29 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Joaqman asks, "please read my revu" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok party people in the house.... i just want to say thank you to all of the people that made it down to the qtrnote last saturday. staff: 5 families has a better staff than capt. stubbing. patrons: we have the better support than the oakland A's (not dissin', just trying to make a funny) artists: diversion proved why he is a strong member of the V.o.r.g. family supoort this crew. the man knows tecno/tranceand he can back it up with early 90's techno. how many of you dj's have acen's "just close your eyes" i didn't think so. keith e. & skyscraper Reprazent so. bay. who says there is no trance in the so. bay???? check these guys out & then come talk to me. chek them at ecco. and solid grooves. gEoff ;) made me want to go to stargaze V after only his 2nd mix. no joke, gEoff ;) is bar none one of the most talented mixologists and he takes the time to still hold beauty as a number one priority. thanks for stopping and giving a lecture for us on your way to San Luis Obispo. b))merang fidget is in my humble opinion one of the purest rawest "i don't give a fuck what you think about what i'm playing now" artists. he is entering the company of bill laswell's and richard t. jameses. he does care about you. he cares enough to push you out of your normal listening habits. micron showed and proved why he is one of the most underrated dj's on the left coast. and i'm saying this knowing you guys already respect him. i'm still saying it. the next time you are gonna go to one of those $25 parties to go see trance, stop yourself and think, where is micron playing tonite? i'll bet you'll reconsider who the true kings of techno/trance are. oh yeah, he plays at $25 parites too and he makes it worth your money. closing it out was macadio. besides being the consumate pro-fessional and all around outstanding human being, macadio makes a techno hed like me worry. i gotta go home and practice practice practice practice. i can't half step or slip. i gotta do my homework if i'm gonna hope to be a peer of likes of macadio. know wonder they call him mac-daddy-o. if you don't go to first light you might as well stay home the rest of the year. sound was the best system i have seen. we could have blown the bar's circuits w/ out even approaching 3/4 of the power. and the speakers.....crystal. Eric Spire representing Silver Pearl shows us time and time again that they are one of the most consistent quality forces in the undaground. did i mention that the system rocked? afta pahtee, Huge respect to Matt for providing us un-dead after 2am crowd with enormous love and hospitality. matt has a onederful home and i think everyone felt welcome. at this time i would like to express complete gratitude to Thomas Trouble. He is a good friend and a great role model. not many people work 7 days a week for the scene. all of my experiences with him have been top flite. Having him call me "mate" is something that i look foward to every week. i am so proud to work for him. my homie Amber Nixon is coming up, but you already knew that. she has such a wide range of styles. and she believes in herself and the underground. nuff said. this was the first time that i heard Shane. and i was impressed. after i crakkd out on the 1's and 2's @ 6 am, Shane came in with da wikkd drum & bass stilo. thanks for the use of your tables. next was dj D. besides being one of my bestest friends ever Denise keeps music on the razor's edge. when i called her sandra collins jr. some months ago it was my highest compliment. since then she has broken that mold and i all can do is dance and admire. Supreme-C is a child prodigy. at the tender age of 18, or is it 17?, i am reminded of the days in 92' when i used to watch a 19 year old steve loria bang the bass. Chris should be booked. did the promoters catch that? Supreme-C should be booked by you. House music all nite long. what was that Cocaine song? Hilarious! thank you for all of your support Chris. the people, without whom none of this would be possible. Vitaly, RobinT, Cesar, John Dalton, Fiona, BJ, Gabe, Kevin (s.j.), Vertigo? yes Vertigo doesn't just make your ears bleed, he also shows love. Mook, what an honor, Jamie, Amber ( i don't know your last name yet) Sooz and Chris and many many more. da'wolf has been my partner in many many crimes. i live for magiclovefairy's love. alex is going to leave a hole in my heart, but he will always be on my mind. Did I forget anybody? Then I am a fool. yours truly, Joaqman, dances with kitties From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 19:38:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27203 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 19:38:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 27194 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 19:38:25 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 19:38:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427193642.7411.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.64] by web4; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:36:42 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:36:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: bsp RedRoom tickets on-sale on-line on-ly To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk o.k. you've heard the rumors now here's the skinny. cybertropic communications, Kung-Felt Prod. in association w/ 5 families present: The RedRoom fryday 5.14.99 - House Music all nite long w/ a dash 'o drum & bass to bring in the sunrise. all ages. berkeley location. BART accessible. Free organic fruit provided by da'wolf. line-up bloom eric spire tasho john rodriguez rebecca mija joaqman JD $10 pre-sale available on thurs. 4.29.99 on-line on-ly @ the liberty site: http://liberty.ispree.net info lines, 510/330-1101, 415/339-8735 this event will sell out, so act now. there is no guest list as the space rilly only holds 100 people. be there or read about it the next monday and kick yourself. j/k much love and respect, joaqman, dances with kitties From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 19:52:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6938 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 19:52:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6928 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 19:51:59 -0000 Received: from f57.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 19:51:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 65350 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 19:48:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427194839.65349.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.36.254.167 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:48:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.36.254.167] From: "Natasha 426" To: thorfio@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com Subject: RE: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:48:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk We've just added: DJ Prophet, Triad, and Deepfog to the lineup! More TBA! Party goes from 10pm - dawn =) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Matt Schwartz" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com Subject: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:06:29 -0700 Whassup folks, Here's a party for all of you older types who, like myself, can't stand the 1015 meat market types and hoochies ;-) ETHEREAL May14th in SF 21+ $10.00 Three Rooms (415) 207-6283 Techno/Trance/House Room: David Hopper Progressive House (LA) DyLoot Techno Micron Trance Li Techno/House Andy W Techno Jungle & Breaks Room: Soul Kid Funky Breaks (Orlando) Science Jungle Megatron Jungle Thorfio Breaks & Hard House (bsp) DysFunctional House From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 20:15:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24414 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 20:15:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 24406 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:15:26 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:15:26 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA02283; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:15:12 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: Joaqman cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Joaqman asks, "please read my revu" In-Reply-To: <19990427190729.2371.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Joaqman wrote: > > artists: diversion proved why he is a strong member of > the V.o.r.g. family supoort this crew. the man > knows tecno/tranceand he can back it up with early > 90's techno. how many of you dj's have acen's "just > close your eyes" i didn't think so. > is this the tune that has chipmunk vocal that says: just close your eyes forget your name forget the world forget the people ... ? (if it is, does it mean i know my music shit? ;-) b- ____ "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, and you will have his shoes." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 20:24:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2350 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 20:24:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 2339 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:24:24 -0000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:24:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427202334.9304.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:23:34 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: RE: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th To: Natasha 426 , thorfio@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Jungle & Breaks Room: YEAH!!!! Breaks!!!! Whooohooooo :o) --- Natasha 426 wrote: > We've just added: > > DJ Prophet, Triad, and Deepfog to the lineup! More > TBA! > > Party goes from 10pm - dawn > > =) > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Matt Schwartz" > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com > Subject: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:06:29 -0700 > > Whassup folks, > > Here's a party for all of you older types who, like > myself, can't > stand the 1015 meat market types and hoochies ;-) > > ETHEREAL > > May14th in SF > 21+ $10.00 > Three Rooms > (415) 207-6283 > > > Techno/Trance/House Room: > > > > David Hopper Progressive House (LA) > DyLoot Techno > Micron Trance > Li Techno/House > Andy W Techno > > > > Soul Kid Funky Breaks (Orlando) > Science Jungle > Megatron Jungle > Thorfio Breaks & Hard House (bsp) > DysFunctional House > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 20:24:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3009 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 20:24:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 2999 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:24:40 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:24:40 -0000 Received: from Laalkuchaa@aol.com (14428) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBVYa08466 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Message-ID: <36ccbc23.245776b4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:23:16 EDT Subject: RE: SRR Burning MAn To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Laalkuchaa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who all is going to Burning Man? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 20:28:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5697 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 20:28:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 5681 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:28:21 -0000 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:28:21 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id NAA10160; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:28:19 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Joaqman asks, "please read my revu" To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Joaqman wrote: > >how many of you dj's have acen's "just close your eyes" *raising hand* you mean there are people who don't own Acen recordings? i see Acen all over the place! i've seen Acen recordings at Tower! now, show me someone who's got 'The Gaza' by Andromeda on vinyl and i'll be impressed... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 20:38:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17152 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 20:38:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 17134 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:38:17 -0000 Received: from f261.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.152) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:38:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 77499 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 20:37:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427203750.77498.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:37:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: natasha426@hotmail.com, thorfio@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com Subject: RE: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:37:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What city!!!! Please say the southbay I am tired of driving.. Macadio (Pouty-Spice) >From: "Natasha 426" >To: thorfio@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com >Subject: RE: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:48:37 PDT > >We've just added: > >DJ Prophet, Triad, and Deepfog to the lineup! More TBA! > >Party goes from 10pm - dawn > >=) > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Matt Schwartz" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com >Subject: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:06:29 -0700 > >Whassup folks, > >Here's a party for all of you older types who, like myself, can't >stand the 1015 meat market types and hoochies ;-) > >ETHEREAL > >May14th in SF >21+ $10.00 >Three Rooms >(415) 207-6283 > > >Techno/Trance/House Room: > > > >David Hopper Progressive House (LA) >DyLoot Techno >Micron Trance >Li Techno/House >Andy W Techno > > >Jungle & Breaks Room: > >Soul Kid Funky Breaks (Orlando) >Science Jungle >Megatron Jungle >Thorfio Breaks & Hard House (bsp) >DysFunctional House > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 20:39:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18355 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 20:39:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 18274 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:39:15 -0000 Received: from osiris.vegasquick.com (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:39:15 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA08428; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:35:20 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "unclenoah" , "E-Bumpers By the Bay" Subject: Uncle Noah Ads. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:40:55 -0700 Message-ID: <001801be90ee$3faef780$104b65d1@seker.t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > ------------ > GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > Good ol' Noah. Every e-mail is a Spam. --Vegas Rick There is a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 20:48:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24320 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 20:48:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 24231 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:48:12 -0000 Received: from f145.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.24) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:48:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 93672 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 20:48:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427204800.93671.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:47:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: 5familes review Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:47:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I would like to thank Jonas and the rest of the krew for inviting me out to play there gig. It is nice to only drive like 10 minutes and be home or look at your watch and say "Oh shit" I am spining in ten minutes I guess I better get my records and jump in the car and slam on the gas. And still make it in time ;-) It was nice to see the small gathering of engertic peeps that made it out. Everyone was nice and friendly saw some old and new faces as well. Sound was nice not too loud and not too low. Got to see some DJ's spin that I have never seen play before. Even though I don't dig Gurl trance it was kewl. The DJ's that did play Trance it wasn't cheezy anthem trance that you hear at all the parties I believe Mr. gEoff was playing it. And when did Supa DJ Micron start playing electro trance?? He had some dope new wax that he just bought. A new sound for him and it was working except for the beatmatching I don't know if it was the monitors or what but some mixes were a little scary.. ;- ) heheh you know your ruff mic-e-ron.. And yours truly the Tekno slut layed down a seat of your pants tekno mixx. My decks are out of commission right now so I had to just look at records I wanted to play and pray that they go good together.. See ya, Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 20:50:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26777 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 20:50:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 26768 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:50:26 -0000 Received: from law-f75.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.138) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:50:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 86262 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 20:50:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427205026.86261.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.211.195 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:50:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.211.195] From: "Amber Leahey" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: graff drama in sac Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:50:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HA HA! serves him right! whatta dumbass >From: KrylonPimp@aol.com >Reply-To: KrylonPimp@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: NRR: graff drama in sac >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:52:33 EDT > >hey people, > >A kid I knew off the Internet and ran into at few parties got arrested a >couple days ago. It's unbelievably wack how things went down. If your >interested read this. > >http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local11_19990424.html > >-omenONE > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 21:05:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5786 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 21:05:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 5513 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 21:05:17 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 21:05:17 -0000 Received: from FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com (573) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGLYa06294 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:04:44 -0400 (EDT) From: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:03:54 EDT Subject: late dubphonik review :\ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk um...uh... i don't know what to say about this party. sorry for dissin on my peeps, but it was set up badly! :\ i still managed to have fun, but it was annoying to not be able to dance by the djs cuz the tables kept skipping. they needed to get over their *technical difficulties* BEFORE the party! the power went out like 15 times through the night too. wtf??! i think it might have had to do with all the shit that was sucking up all the power @ rico's. i mean..there were like...slides & movies playing everywhere (it looked cool though). but yeah. plus there were the 7? i forget how many turntables set up for the jungle life crew (they're hella tight!). i think it was just too much. and the camera... anyway, megatron (mike) i'm glad that i got to see you spin out--congrats on your first party, and sorry it turned out so badly--w/ the sound system & all.. :\ you rawked the house though. lol. i don't know about the dj's upstairs though...i went up there a few times and it was all about hip hop & weird stuff...so i came back downstairs. ;) but then @ the end of the night they were playing reggae downstairs (which is cool, but not as fun to dance to) so i went upstairs and some dj was playing some pretty cool jungle, so i was happy. :) one thing that i can say about the party is that the party atmosphere was goin on... everyone was so friendly and nice...and people looked happy. :) i met a cool-ass girl that goes to my school, and saw some other friends (like adrie). i still managed to make the most of it and have some fun (isn't this what leslie was telling us all to do--it's all about you). i accidentally smiled at this woman i met @ a burning man party once, but i didn't really wanna talk to her so i had to hide from her the whole rest of the night. lol. whatever though. the music was good, the people were nice and the party didn't get too hot, stuffy & smoke-ridden. i survived. big ups to mc duh for being a kewl guy/mc, and .... WHERE THE HELL WAS JAMAL AT??!!--it was his party. hehe. i'll see him @ the next party. oh yeah...next saturday--for those of you who live in the city--there's a big party going on in dolores park--it's called May Day. it's not really rave-related, but it's gonna be hella fun: 5,000 peeps, free food (put on by food not bombs, art & revolution & the grey panthers). there's gonna be street performances and skits... and a march @ 4pm. i think the march meets up w/ the millions for marijuana march too. ;)~ (it's all about re-claiming may day, which is when hella workers decided not to go to work one day a long-ass time ago [it was may 1st] and have a huge party in the streets, so they could get an 8 hour work day & a weekend, instead of having to work crayzeh hours..) cool. then after that party, i'm going to acid breaks 3! i've been looking forward to this one. let's just hope it's as tight as the flyers say it will be!! yay! .catrina. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 21:14:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11622 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 21:14:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 11427 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 21:13:59 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 21:13:59 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id OAA17654; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:13:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904272113.OAA17654@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Uncle Noah Ads. To: rick@vegas.net (Vegas Rick) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <001801be90ee$3faef780$104b65d1@seker.t2000> from "Vegas Rick" at Apr 27, 99 01:40:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you say it like it is a bad thing... you got to use whatever marketing technology you've got. -troy > > > ------------ > > GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > > info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > > Good ol' Noah. Every e-mail is a Spam. > > --Vegas Rick > There is a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an > idiot. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 21:14:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12722 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 21:14:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 12713 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 21:14:39 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 21:14:39 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (8003) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIJFa05845 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:12:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:12:57 EDT Subject: (NRR) Quotes on Colorado To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I found this interesting. To quote a local newspaper on the two boys in the Colorado Massacre - "Their violence seems mysterious, hinting that something dangerous lurks wide and deep in American society." And you are just now realizing this? It's a shame it takes an incident like this for people to WAKE UP and realize this. For more examples on exactly what is *wrong* with American society, visit this phony website and read at least 5 of people's responses to the site. http://www.trenchcoat.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 21:20:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16110 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 21:20:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16032 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 21:20:26 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 21:20:26 -0000 Received: from Macias20@aol.com (8059) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBZUa20115 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Macias20@aol.com Message-ID: <4033c9d6.245783cb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:19:07 EDT Subject: the old wav To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Macias20@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk To all of you sfr's that i sent the first wav to.. i promised id find it and tell you who it was...it's on tranceport and it's a song called gamemaster... i heard the whole thing.. it blew my mind.. it's not even close to what the whole thing sounds like...just thought u'd like to know ;) MUAH.. and to the other people who wanted the second wav... it'll be sent to ya very soon.. and ill try to find out who does that one too.. k ;) PLUR.. valerie AKA sparkles From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 21:34:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25885 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 21:34:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 25868 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 21:34:21 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 21:34:21 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdCAAa000FQ; Tue Apr 27 14:30:20 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa05367; 27 Apr 99 14:30 PDT Message-ID: <37262C45.8DE7E203@sco.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:29:41 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com CC: sfraves Subject: May day (Long post about Pagan Rites) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com wrote: > (it's all about re-claiming may day, which is when hella workers decided not to go to work one day a long-ass time ago [it was may 1st] and have a huge party in the streets, so they could get an 8 hour work day & a weekend, instead of having to work crayzeh hours..) Almost right but not quite - it is an ancient Pagan festival - got the below from a site created and maintained by johnj@sysx.apana.org.au (sorry its a bit long).... it's still is a holiday across most of Europe (in the case of the UK it's the Monday after 1st). Sounds like it used to be much more fun then just getting a few hours off work. The Pagan Origins of May Day Mayday was a rite of passage custom that marked an important seasonal transition in the year. Putting a maypole up involved taking a growing tree from the wood, and bringing it to the village to mark the oncoming season of the summer. Mayday used to be a period of great sexual licence. People would go off into the woods to collect their trees and green boughs, but once there, would enter into all sorts of temporary sexual liaisons which society did not normally accept. Why isn't it like that now? It was tamed and redirected. In the seventeenth century, Mayday came under severe attack by the puritans who banned it by an act of Parliament in 1644. In Philip Stubbe's "Anatomy of Abuses", which was a puritan tract against all kinds of merrymaking, there is a section called 'Against May', where he actually tries to measure the degree of sexual licence. "Every parish town and village assemble themselve's together. Men and women and children, old and young and go off, some to the woods and groves, some to the hills and mountains, where they spend the night in pastimes. In the morning they return bringing with them birch-boughs and trees to deck their assemblies withal. I've heard it credibly reported by men of great gravity, credibility and reputation. That forty, three score, or a hundred youths, going to the woods over night. They have scarcely the third part of them, returned home again undefiled." The Puritans also objected to May Day and other festivals, because of the way social hierarchy was set aside, so that all were commonly involved, from the highest to the lowest. The Puritans found this offensive much preferring strict gradations in society. May day did return with the restoration of Charles the second in 1660, but it didn't have the same robust force. It had the same old image, but the elements of sexual licence and social reversal went underground. Then in the nineteenth century, the Victorians overlayed a much more moral tone on the festival, emphasising its innocence. Instead of being a celebration of fertility, it turned into a kind of commemoration of Merri England. The girls taking part now wore white and held posies. What has this cleaning up done to the image of May Day today? For the past sixty years folklorists have been rediscovering the Pagan fertility tradition, with it's myths, rites and sexual licence. Some say this has over shadowed the way in which May and other customs have been rooted in an economic way of life. May garlands, for example embodied the coming of summer, but they also embodied the knocking on doors around the parish and asking for money. At other times of the year begging would have been an offence. But if it was done at May time with a garland, or collecting money for the Guy, or wassailing at Christmas, it would have a powerful legitimation. Also the taking of the tree for the may pole highlighted the rights of the people to take wood freely for fuel. This confirms the extensive medieval rights to wood usage, including the taking of wood, both growing timber for building and repairs and dead wood for fuel. Why did the Labour Movement choose May Day as International Labour Day? It's more that May Day chose the Labour Movement. Unlike Easter, Whitsun or Christmas, May Day is the one festival of the year for which there is no significant church service. Because of this it has always been a strong secular festival, particularly among working people who in previous centuries would take the day off to celebrate it as a holiday, often clandestinely without the support of their employer. It was a popular custom, in the proper sense of the word - a people's day - so it was naturally identified with the Labour and socialist movements and by the twentieth century it was firmly rooted as part of the socialist calendar. It's only recently that the state has recognised May Day as a bank holiday for the first time since it had royal support back in the Elizabethan court, and there's been a big battle over this May Day which was seized upon by the Right as something foreign and left-wing. But this entirely misses the continuity of its roots in our cultural tradition. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 21:43:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29752 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 21:43:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 29681 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 21:42:57 -0000 Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 21:42:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427214227.22856.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:42:27 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: RE: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th To: "Macadio G." , natasha426@hotmail.com, thorfio@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Please say the southbay I am tired of driving.. Me too! thats why everyone should move closer to the city...hmmmm :) --- "Macadio G." wrote: > What city!!!! > > > Macadio (Pouty-Spice) > > > >From: "Natasha 426" > >To: thorfio@hotbot.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, > stargaze@signal11.com > >Subject: RE: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th > >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:48:37 PDT > > > >We've just added: > > > >DJ Prophet, Triad, and Deepfog to the lineup! More > TBA! > > > >Party goes from 10pm - dawn > > > >=) > > > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: "Matt Schwartz" > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, stargaze@signal11.com > >Subject: BSP: ETHEREAL - May 14th > >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:06:29 -0700 > > > >Whassup folks, > > > >Here's a party for all of you older types who, like > myself, can't > >stand the 1015 meat market types and hoochies ;-) > > > >ETHEREAL > > > >May14th in SF > >21+ $10.00 > >Three Rooms > >(415) 207-6283 > > > > > >Techno/Trance/House Room: > > > > > > > >David Hopper Progressive House (LA) > >DyLoot Techno > >Micron Trance > >Li Techno/House > >Andy W Techno > > > > > >Jungle & Breaks Room: > > > >Soul Kid Funky Breaks (Orlando) > >Science Jungle > >Megatron Jungle > >Thorfio Breaks & Hard House (bsp) > >DysFunctional House > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 22:23:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22916 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 22:23:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 22859 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 22:23:01 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 22:23:01 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (8064) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yGCAa23675 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:20:30 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: <47dba341.24579229@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:20:25 EDT Subject: Re: ReVIsed My version :): (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so true. scientific studies show there's more brain activity when you are sleeping than when you are watching TV. big surprise *note the sarcasm* . alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 23:35:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25224 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 23:35:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 25209 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 23:35:20 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 23:35:20 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Tue Apr 27 16:34:46 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, ejoyboy@hotmail.com, dunkentoad@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:34:46 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Techno Cosmic Mass review X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ohmygosh, Techno Cosmic Mass rawked my weekend! Great party and Incredible community vibrations! The Creation Spirituality Network/Naropa Institute puts on this event in downtown Oakland every so often. Sunday's event was VERY loosely centered around the structure of catholic mass w/ input from various Western mystical and religious traditions. The theme was the "Green Man" based in Earth/plant oriented mysticism from northern and western Europe. And was about 30% ritual and communion and 60% dancing, ecstatic worship:) The DJ played mostly hard trance :) :) :) The crown was pretty diverse especially across age. There wer approx. 400-450 people there and EVERYONE, even the 85 year old Grannies, were rockin out to the the supah loud grooves. While I enjoy going to raves, and I even enjoy going to 1015 on meat market Saturday, this party served to remind me of the potential of our rave movement. generaliztion follows I think many subcultures/groups can focus on defining themselves in terms of rebellion and exclusion of the norm. (e.g. we are young and non-conformists vs. those evil yuppies) The sense of community I experieneced here across such a truly diverse spectrum was profoundly impressive to say the least. This was a dance community w/ a pro-active vision outside of age, drug use, or whether or not you have the right candee-kid gear. This was a truly multimedia event in a perfect space, w/ cranked up (volume) techno, nice people, and strong community vision. Any Recovering Catholics or Fundamentalists Anonymous out there? Even if you're not, this is truly an incredible community/dance experience. It reminds me of what a moontribe could be if it were indoors and had participants from all age groups and walks of life. Hope I haven't rambled too long (or too "stream of conscious"ly), The next Techno Cosmic Mass is the second week of May and focuses on Gaia/Mother Earth. Hope everyone is having a good week, Ben -------------- If you want more info let me know, or check out these links: Techno Comic Mass: http://www.creationspirituality.com/htdocs/5techno.htm Creation Spirituality Network: http://www.creationspirituality.com Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 23:43:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28204 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 23:43:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 28195 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 23:43:07 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-3.pilot.net (HELO mail03-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 23:43:07 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail03-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id QAA21943 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id QAA03510 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256760.00824894 ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:43:02 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256760.0081EECC.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:42:35 -0700 Subject: DSL HELP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I can no longer tollerate my ISP, I need something better but something thats not going to bust my wallet. So can anyone reffer me to an ISP that can give me DSL or ISDN at a good rate, I live in Daly City / South SF, and Pacbell can't offer it to me cuz I'm outside the 3 mile radius of the central station... Please Help... Greatly appreciated Jason From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 23:47:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29540 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 23:46:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 29531 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 23:46:53 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 23:46:53 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA29049; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:46:51 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: OXnymphXO@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ReVIsed My version :): (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) In-Reply-To: <47dba341.24579229@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 OXnymphXO@aol.com wrote: > so true. scientific studies show there's more brain activity when you are > sleeping than when you are watching TV. big surprise *note the sarcasm* . > > alida > what if you are dreaming that you are watching TV? ____ "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, and you will have his shoes." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 23:50:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2144 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 23:50:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 2096 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 23:49:54 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 23:49:54 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA15560; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA06472; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:47:41 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "boing" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: ReVIsed My version :): (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:54:50 -0700 Message-ID: <000701be9109$56c1fec0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of boing > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:47 PM > To: OXnymphXO@aol.com > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: ReVIsed My version :): (nrr) Quote of the Day (Mon) > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 OXnymphXO@aol.com wrote: > > > so true. scientific studies show there's more brain activity > when you are > > sleeping than when you are watching TV. big surprise *note the > sarcasm* . > > > > alida > > > > what if you are dreaming that you are watching TV? Then you watch too much TV. =P Too easy....;-) M<>< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 23:52:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3818 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 23:52:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3810 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 23:52:15 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 23:52:15 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Tue Apr 27 16:51:41 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, ejoyboy@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:51:41 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: BSP: Techno Cosmic Mass may 9th X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk <<<>>> Theme: Gaia, our Mother -Bring your Mother & your Father -Bring your Sons & Daughters ***************************************************** This is not technically a Blatent "self" promotion. I just really wanted to share the info on the flyer as an alternative to people having to sift through my long ass review! OH hyperreal powers that be, please post this info on the calander! Thanks, Ben ***************************************************** The Techno Cosmic Mass, Rooted in Western Liturgical Tradition, integrates ecstatic music and dance, urban shamanism, multimedia imagery and Eastern and indegenous spirtual elements to create a multi-cultural, intergenerational and ecumenical form of worship. Celebration of this Mass and has uplifted and inspired young and old of diverse faiths and traditions from coast to coast. Please respect our policy of no drug, alcohol, or tobacco use. Doantion suggested. ****************************************************** 6:30 Pm, Sunday, May 9 1999* With Mathew Fox and Friends. The Howard Thurman Ritual Center(at The Sweets Ballroom) 1933 Broadway at 19th ST. Bart, Oakland 510-835-4827 ext 3. Creation Spirituality: http://www.creationspirituality.com/ Techno Cosmic Mass: http://www.creationspirituality.com/htdocs/5techno.htm ------------ *Ben's add on, I know, I know you'd have to miss the simpsons and x-files :) Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 23:57:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6355 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 23:57:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 6347 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 23:57:23 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 23:57:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427235540.13138.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [130.212.239.145] by web4; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:55:40 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:55:40 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: Re: 5familes review To: "Macadio G." , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yo...my beatmatching was ON.....atleast from what i heard...;) the needles skipped twice in the middle of 2 different mixes, so that's probably what u heard. but a professional dj like u should know the difference. :) nice set by the way, i definitely do dig your teknow. i only got to hear you and boomerang and u both sounded good. :) micron ---"Macadio G." wrote: > > Well I would like to thank Jonas and the rest of the krew for > inviting me out to play there gig. It is nice to only drive like 10 > minutes and be home or look at your watch and say "Oh shit" I am > spining in ten minutes I guess I better get my records and jump in > the car and slam on the gas. And still make it in time ;-) It was > nice to see the small gathering of engertic peeps that made it out. > Everyone was nice and friendly saw some old and new faces as well. > Sound was nice not too loud and not too low. Got to see some DJ's > spin that I have never seen play before. Even though I don't dig Gurl > trance it was kewl. The DJ's that did play Trance it wasn't cheezy > anthem trance that you hear at all the parties I believe Mr. gEoff > was playing it. And when did Supa DJ Micron start playing electro > trance?? He had some dope new wax that he just bought. A new sound > for him and it was working except for the beatmatching I don't know > if it was the monitors or what but some mixes were a little scary.. ;- > ) heheh you know your ruff mic-e-ron.. And yours truly the Tekno slut > layed down a seat of your pants tekno mixx. My decks are out of > commission right now so I had to just look at records I wanted to > play and pray that they go good together.. > > See ya, > Macadio > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 27 23:57:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6709 invoked by uid 6000); 27 Apr 1999 23:57:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 6601 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 23:57:30 -0000 Received: from f92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 23:57:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 66463 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 23:59:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427235920.66462.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.94.180.3 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:59:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [199.94.180.3] From: "Rum TumTugger" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Advice from DJs Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:59:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I've got a little question. I'm interested in trying out spinning. However, as is so often the case, i don't have money to toss around. Would any DJs out there with the time be willing to write me back privately with their thoughts/opinions of Technics, Geminis, other necessary equipment? Let's try not to clutter the list up with this, though...It's just a personal inquiry...many thanks!!! Sharpe _ _ / \ ____ / \ / / \ \ \ / \ / \| /\ /\ |/ ---| V |--- /| \ | / |\ / \ \/\/ / \ \__________/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 00:17:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15179 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 00:17:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 15170 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 00:17:07 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 00:17:07 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-56.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.56]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21048; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002501be910c$cf853040$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: , References: <88256760.0081EECC.00@boxster.hq.adia> Subject: NRR: Re: DSL HELP Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:19:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk An ISP that offers DSL is still limited to the Telco's central office constricts... since all DSL activity is Telco based. You will also be paying more for ISP access, since they have to tack on their fee in addition to the Telco charges that they get charged. (Ma' bell charges 10 bucks a month for the always on internet access if you go straight through them). ISDN is still a metered service, you would have to pay per-minute/per-B-channel. There are no unlimited line usage plans for ISDN. Best bet in the bay area (if your out of DSL trunk range) is Cable... check @home for their range of installation. Another idea is buying into the "Shotgun" technology(diamond) or modem binding technology(windows 98) utilizing 2 56k modems for a throughput of 112k . These solutions, though, need 2 phone lines and a supporting ISP. On the bright side, the PacBell technician that installed my DSL line mentioned that PacBell might be installing DSL repeaters at midway points along the trunk... increasing this high frequency technology's range. Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:42 PM Subject: DSL HELP > I can no longer tollerate my ISP, I need something better but something > thats not going to bust my wallet. So can anyone reffer me to an ISP that > can give me DSL or ISDN at a good rate, I live in Daly City / South SF, and > Pacbell can't offer it to me cuz I'm outside the 3 mile radius of the > central station... Please Help... > > Greatly appreciated > > Jason > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 00:18:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15967 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 00:18:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 15880 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 00:17:49 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 00:17:49 -0000 Received: from FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com (324) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHIOa14879 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:16:11 -0400 (EDT) From: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Message-ID: <93594468.2457ad31@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:15:45 EDT Subject: nrr: changing my name.. To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail v1.0 sub 7 Reply-To: FR3QMAGN3T@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk for those of you who give a damn (& for those of you who don't), i'm unsubscribing as a fr3qmagn3t & re-subscribing as *quietRIOT*, okie? ok. i was tired of deleting important mail!--sheesh.. kay. bye. catrina From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 00:36:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25727 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 00:36:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25573 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 00:35:59 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 00:35:59 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdAAAa006Dw; Tue Apr 27 17:33:41 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa18542; 27 Apr 99 17:28 PDT Message-ID: <372655FE.588FD15@sco.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:27:42 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Electric Joy Boy CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Techno Cosmic Mass review References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm glad you got something out of this and I hope it is on the level - the thing is I have a huge distrust of this sort of thing. I used to live in Sheffield, UK and in the early 90's one of these so called 'Raves Masses' was started, we were all immersed in the dance scene by then and some of my friends who were not that happy with their lives got involved with them (I went a couple of times when they held nights in a club in the city centre but never to the church - I was too wierded out). They got sucked in by the very charasmatic guy who was running it, Chris Brain, and started to ostracise all their other friends and live life totally for this church and the Nine O'Clock services..... Anyway to cut a long story short Brain was sexual abusing members of his congregation in the name 'discovering a post-modern definition of sexuality in the church' and luring young girls in with the 'trendyness' of the rave mass. Some people I knew were seriously disturbed by their experiences there. You can actually read about it n Hyperreal - it looks like this has come on on SFraves before. http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/spirit/culture/Rave_Mass.html Anyway just a cautionary tale. Lesley From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 00:36:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26587 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 00:36:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 26574 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 00:36:20 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 00:36:20 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03783; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990427174003.007ee960@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:40:03 -0700 To: Space201@aol.com From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: (NRR) Quotes on Colorado Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here's another quote: >From TIME, May 3, 1999(Today's issue): "At the other extreme are the 'Trenchcoat Mafias' of the world--the kids on the margins. Each school has its own brand of outsiders with their own names-- nerds, freaks, punks, ravers." Ummmmm..... huh? -Carly P.S. This issue of TIME reads more like a tabloid than a serious news publication... I have lost all respect for this and every other part of the American media. Life is nothing more than a series of Cover Stories and made-for-TV move plots to them... its sickening. At 05:12 PM 4/27/99 EDT, you wrote: >I found this interesting. To quote a local newspaper on the two boys in the >Colorado Massacre - >"Their violence seems mysterious, hinting that something dangerous lurks wide >and deep in American society." > >And you are just now realizing this? It's a shame it takes an incident like >this for people to WAKE UP and realize this. >For more examples on exactly what is *wrong* with American society, visit >this phony website and read at least 5 of people's responses to the site. >http://www.trenchcoat.org > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 00:52:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3339 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 00:52:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 3323 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 00:52:51 -0000 Received: from smtp.northpointcom.com (HELO npcexch.northpointcom.com) (170.1.63.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 00:52:51 -0000 Received: by smtp.northpointcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:45:42 -0700 Message-ID: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD2541@smtp.northpointcom.com> From: "Valverde, Andrew" To: 'Jay' , Jason.LEE@adecco.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Re: DSL HELP Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:45:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE9110.70F7E0F0" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE9110.70F7E0F0 Content-Type: text/plain actually guys, I work for NorthPoint communications. We a DSL service provider. and even if you are out of the range of the central office you can opt for IDSL is similar to ISDN services......however IDSL is not metered, and it's a dedicated subscriber service...Note that if some of you are on AOL...you can apply to be a beta tester for AOL DSL service. and some of the other CLEC's "competive local exchange carriers " offer aDSL which is also cost efficient check out.. www.northpointcom.com love you guys..."raveclub@aol.com". > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay [SMTP:jvlavianos@cu-help.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 5:20 PM > To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: NRR: Re: DSL HELP > > An ISP that offers DSL is still limited to the Telco's central office > constricts... since all DSL activity is Telco based. You will also be > paying more for ISP access, since they have to tack on their fee in > addition > to the Telco charges that they get charged. (Ma' bell charges 10 bucks a > month for the always on internet access if you go straight through them). > > ISDN is still a metered service, you would have to pay > per-minute/per-B-channel. There are no unlimited line usage plans for > ISDN. > > Best bet in the bay area (if your out of DSL trunk range) is Cable... > check > @home for their range of installation. Another idea is buying into the > "Shotgun" technology(diamond) or modem binding technology(windows 98) > utilizing 2 56k modems for a throughput of 112k to 20K a second>. These solutions, though, need 2 phone lines and a > supporting ISP. > > On the bright side, the PacBell technician that installed my DSL line > mentioned that PacBell might be installing DSL repeaters at midway points > along the trunk... increasing this high frequency technology's range. > > Love & Music, > -Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:42 PM > Subject: DSL HELP > > > > I can no longer tollerate my ISP, I need something better but something > > thats not going to bust my wallet. So can anyone reffer me to an ISP > that > > can give me DSL or ISDN at a good rate, I live in Daly City / South SF, > and > > Pacbell can't offer it to me cuz I'm outside the 3 mile radius of the > > central station... Please Help... > > > > Greatly appreciated > > > > Jason > > > > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE9110.70F7E0F0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Re: DSL HELP

actually = guys,

I work for = NorthPoint communications.  We a  DSL service provider. and = even if you are out of the range of the central office you can opt for = IDSL is similar to ISDN services......however IDSL is not metered, and = it's a dedicated subscriber service...Note that if some of you are on = AOL...you can apply to be a beta tester for AOL DSL service.  and = some of the other CLEC's "competive local exchange carriers " = offer aDSL which is also cost efficient

check out..  = www.northpointcom.com


love you = guys..."raveclub@aol.com".

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Jay [SMTP:jvlavianos@cu-help.com]
    Sent:   Tuesday, April 27, 1999 5:20 PM
    To:     Jason.LEE@adecco.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
    Subject:       = NRR: Re: DSL HELP

    An ISP that offers DSL is still = limited to the Telco's central office
    constricts... since all DSL activity = is Telco based.  You will also be
    paying more for ISP access, since = they have to tack on their fee in addition
    to the Telco charges that they get = charged. (Ma' bell charges 10 bucks a
    month for the always on internet = access if you go straight through them).

    ISDN is still a metered service, you = would have to pay
    per-minute/per-B-channel.  There = are no unlimited line usage plans for ISDN.

    Best bet in the bay area (if your out = of DSL trunk range) is Cable... check
    @home for their range of = installation.  Another idea is buying into the
    "Shotgun" = technology(diamond) or modem binding technology(windows 98)
    utilizing 2 56k modems for a = throughput of 112k <downloads ranging from 9K
    to 20K a second>.  These = solutions, though, need 2 phone lines and a
    supporting ISP.

    On the bright side, the PacBell = technician that installed my DSL line
    mentioned that PacBell might be = installing DSL repeaters at midway points
    along the trunk... increasing this = high frequency technology's range.

    Love & Music,
    -Jay


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: = <Jason.LEE@adecco.com>
    To: = <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
    Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:42 = PM
    Subject: DSL HELP


    > I can no longer tollerate my ISP, = I need something better but something
    > thats not going to bust my = wallet.   So can anyone reffer me to an ISP
    that
    > can give me DSL or ISDN at a = good rate, I live in Daly City / South SF,
    and
    > Pacbell can't offer it to me cuz = I'm outside the 3 mile radius of the
    > central station... Please = Help...
    >
    > Greatly appreciated
    >
    > Jason
    >
    >
    >

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE9110.70F7E0F0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 01:08:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10767 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 01:08:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 10752 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 01:08:06 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 01:08:06 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-56.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.56]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA21243; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004801be9113$ecc40cb0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "Valverde, Andrew" , , References: <302245601E98D211B8C000805FBB488B01CD2541@smtp.northpointcom.com> Subject: NRR Re: Re: DSL HELP Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:10:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk RE: Re: DSL HELPAhh, the other xDSL area of the spectrum. I wasn't under the impression that DDSL, IDSL and other xDSL services were available yet in northern california (I knew about the Oregon and SoCal availability). What competitive carriers do you know in the area ? I knew USWest would be making an appearance here soon... as well as MCI, but wasn't aware of any mainstream availability as of yet. Think I will browse to your site to see about more info, thanks! Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: Valverde, Andrew To: 'Jay' ; Jason.LEE@adecco.com ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 5:45 PM Subject: RE: Re: DSL HELP actually guys, I work for NorthPoint communications. We a DSL service provider. and even if you are out of the range of the central office you can opt for IDSL is similar to ISDN services......however IDSL is not metered, and it's a dedicated subscriber service...Note that if some of you are on AOL...you can apply to be a beta tester for AOL DSL service. and some of the other CLEC's "competive local exchange carriers " offer aDSL which is also cost efficient check out.. www.northpointcom.com love you guys..."raveclub@aol.com". -----Original Message----- From: Jay [SMTP:jvlavianos@cu-help.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 5:20 PM To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: Re: DSL HELP An ISP that offers DSL is still limited to the Telco's central office constricts... since all DSL activity is Telco based. You will also be paying more for ISP access, since they have to tack on their fee in addition to the Telco charges that they get charged. (Ma' bell charges 10 bucks a month for the always on internet access if you go straight through them). ISDN is still a metered service, you would have to pay per-minute/per-B-channel. There are no unlimited line usage plans for ISDN. Best bet in the bay area (if your out of DSL trunk range) is Cable... check @home for their range of installation. Another idea is buying into the "Shotgun" technology(diamond) or modem binding technology(windows 98) utilizing 2 56k modems for a throughput of 112k . These solutions, though, need 2 phone lines and a supporting ISP. On the bright side, the PacBell technician that installed my DSL line mentioned that PacBell might be installing DSL repeaters at midway points along the trunk... increasing this high frequency technology's range. Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:42 PM Subject: DSL HELP > I can no longer tollerate my ISP, I need something better but something > thats not going to bust my wallet. So can anyone reffer me to an ISP that > can give me DSL or ISDN at a good rate, I live in Daly City / South SF, and > Pacbell can't offer it to me cuz I'm outside the 3 mile radius of the > central station... Please Help... > > Greatly appreciated > > Jason > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 01:44:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24880 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 01:44:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 24872 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 01:44:19 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 01:44:19 -0000 Received: from MoonChyld1@aol.com (8037) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNUIa25425; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:42:58 -0400 (EDT) From: MoonChyld1@aol.com Message-ID: <68e92a38.2457c14a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:41:30 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: graff drama in sac To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, KrylonPimp@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: MoonChyld1@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, so i totally knew this kid!! my best friend and i met him and a group of his friends at our 2nd party ever... we stayed in touch with them for quite awhile.. but at some point last summer we kinda lost touch with them... seth was a really tallented guy! that's sad, thankx for posting the article, i should call my other friends up in sac and see how they're all doing.... it's too bad he got busted, a pretty cool kid! love and hugs and kisses, tina Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:52:33 EDT From: KrylonPimp@aol.com Subject: NRR: graff drama in sac hey people, A kid I knew off the Internet and ran into at few parties got arrested a couple days ago. It's unbelievably wack how things went down. If your interested read this. http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local11_19990424.html - -omenONE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 02:04:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5938 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 02:04:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 5899 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 02:04:31 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 02:04:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428014752.7609.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [208.163.39.25] by web1; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:47:52 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:47:52 -0700 (PDT) From: cb Subject: Re: the old wave/gamemaster To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Macias20@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i LOVE that song! Its very emotional but not to the point of being overly cheesy. (imho) just had to share =) > i promised id find it and tell you who it was...it's on tranceport > and it's a song called gamemaster... i heard the whole thing.. it > blew my mind.. it's not even close to what the whole thing sounds > like...just thought u'd like to know ;) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 02:14:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10110 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 02:14:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 10087 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 02:14:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO next-mail.hightrend.com) (209.31.33.216) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 02:14:13 -0000 Received: from alldigitalclub.com (10.1.1.69 [10.1.1.69]) by next-mail.hightrend.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id GGJAQLN7; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:22:04 -0700 Message-ID: <36FD2D1C.B6E5F339@alldigitalclub.com> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 19:10:24 +0000 From: Vitaly Golomb Reply-To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=95=95=95?= Hi! =?iso-8859-1?Q?=95=95=95?= This Friday the 30th!!! bsp Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------8BB9474147571F231418A1FC" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --------------8BB9474147571F231418A1FC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This Friday the 30th @ a special new SF location, 9pm - 4am (maybe till 6 if the owner likes the party) 2 rooms Stellar Lineup- JERRY BONHAM (Spundae) MARS (Frequency 8) MYSTRE (Frequency 8) THOMAS TROUBLE (T&J Factory, VORG Resident) DJ D (T&J Factory, VORG Resident) DYLOOT (Skills, MHZ, Happy Kids) ATOMIC DJ (VORG, BASS Records) ERIK BROWN (Rebirth, Harmonics) RYAN WILBER (NBC, Harmonics, VORG Resident) SUPREME-C (VORG Resident) ALIAS (?) There will be water bottles and smoothies for sale, and free fruit courtesy of Children of the Sun. There is a Hotel close to the location and we are talking to the owner to see if our party kids can get a discount with a ticket stub or wrist braslet, more info on that on the info line 415.750.3100. There is also a Denny's style 24 hour restaurant right there as well. Hope everybody's week is going well, please buy pre-sales early they are going fast (T&J, F-8 Sold Out, Solid Grooves Close). See you there, :-) :-) :-) Take care, we love you all (well, almost all) Vitaly VORG PS. REMEMBER THIS IS JUST A PRE-PARTY FOR "VORG" MAY 8TH. BRING "HI" TICKET STUBS TO THE PARTY TO GET A SPECIAL PRESENT FROM US. PPS. CALL THE INFO LINE FOR UPDATED INFO 415.750.3100 --------------8BB9474147571F231418A1FC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This Friday the 30th @ a special new SF location, 9pm - 4am (maybe till 6 if the owner likes the party)

2 rooms
Stellar Lineup-

JERRY BONHAM (Spundae)
MARS (Frequency 8)
MYSTRE (Frequency 8)
THOMAS TROUBLE (T&J Factory, VORG Resident)
DJ D (T&J Factory, VORG Resident)
DYLOOT (Skills, MHZ, Happy Kids)
ATOMIC DJ (VORG, BASS Records)
ERIK BROWN (Rebirth, Harmonics)
RYAN WILBER (NBC, Harmonics, VORG Resident)
SUPREME-C (VORG Resident)
ALIAS (?)

There will be water bottles and smoothies for sale, and free fruit courtesy of Children of the Sun.

There is a Hotel close to the location and we are talking to the owner to see if our party kids can get a discount with a ticket stub or wrist braslet, more info on that on the info line 415.750.3100.  There is also a Denny's style 24 hour restaurant right there as well.

Hope everybody's week is going well, please buy pre-sales early they are going fast (T&J, F-8 Sold Out, Solid Grooves Close).  See you there, :-) :-) :-)

Take care, we love you all (well, almost all)
Vitaly VORG

PS. REMEMBER THIS IS JUST A PRE-PARTY FOR "VORG" MAY 8TH. BRING "HI" TICKET STUBS TO THE PARTY TO GET A SPECIAL PRESENT FROM US.

PPS. CALL THE INFO LINE FOR UPDATED INFO 415.750.3100 --------------8BB9474147571F231418A1FC-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 03:31:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15733 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 03:31:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 15724 invoked by uid 233); 28 Apr 1999 03:31:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 12944 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 17:37:26 -0000 Received: from law-f249.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.214) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 17:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 57855 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 17:36:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427173659.57854.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.170.187.126 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:36:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.170.187.126] From: "michael waldren" To: akp2@duke.edu, KrylonPimp@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: graff drama in sac Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:36:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I dont know how into the grphing scene you all are but it is not entirely uncommon for artists.....errrrr taggers to post there work on the net. In fact this is the first incident i have heard of to actually contain a not so pleasant ending. Maybe many of us....errrrr them will heed this lesson. Peace. Junglist Mikey >From: MacBunny >To: KrylonPimp@aol.com >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: NRR: graff drama in sac >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:01:50 -0400 (EDT) > >yes, the situation is completly wack, but that guy was also extremly >stupid. when you tag (knowing it is illegal) you keep your identity >secret. you don't brag all over the net about it, posting stuff on a >website. big brother is watching people. here's just another case. a >small one, but a warning to all of us to be careful. > >much love, >amber > > >On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 KrylonPimp@aol.com wrote: >> >> hey people, >> >> A kid I knew off the Internet and ran into at few parties got arrested a >> couple days ago. It's unbelievably wack how things went down. If your >> interested read this. >> >> http://www.sacbee.com/news/news/local11_19990424.html >> >> -omenONE >> >> >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, >is the characteristic of one who knows." > >amber perry-mcquown > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu >amber@earthling.net >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 03:36:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18726 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 03:36:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 18715 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 03:36:16 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 03:36:16 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (31) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAHGa06294; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:35:13 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <2a6e9b36.2457dbee@aol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:35:10 EDT Subject: Re: NRR: graff drama in sac To: MoonChyld1@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Its to bad he got busted. Or its to bad he was screwing up? Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 03:46:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23134 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 03:46:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 23124 invoked by uid 233); 28 Apr 1999 03:46:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 2818 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 03:03:21 -0000 Received: from mail-gw5.pacbell.net (206.13.28.23) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 03:03:21 -0000 Received: from compoundrecords.com (ppp-206-170-1-21.snfc21.pacbell.net [206.170.1.21]) by mail-gw5.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with ESMTP id TAA08389; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37267BEE.68EF3013@compoundrecords.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:09:43 -0700 From: Compound Office X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sacraves@hyperreal.org, breaks@xmission.com Subject: *** 1.8.7. IN STORE *** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk 1.8.7. from Jungle Sky will be doing an in-store at Compound Records on Wednesday April 28th from 7-9 pm, right before the KUNG FU KNOWLEDGE TOUR later that evening!! The store is located at 6 valencia st. @ market in san francisco, 415-864-8309 CHECK IT OUT!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 04:50:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17823 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 04:50:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 17815 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 04:50:41 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 04:50:41 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (302) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMSQa06741 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:48:31 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: <255a77ae.2457ed1d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:48:29 EDT Subject: NRR: Paging Tony from Chicago To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Reply-To: GParry1925@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Owen paging Tony the Brazillian Anthropologist from Chicago. I don't want to lose touch with you. If anyone else can give me an email of phone # opr whatever for Tony I'd really appreciate it. Thanks Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 05:02:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22361 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 05:02:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 22329 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 05:02:13 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 05:02:13 -0000 Received: from c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.87.180]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990428050211.EDW24898.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:02:11 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: "SFRaves" Subject: FW: BSP HAVE A NICE RAVE this fri apr 30 - update Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:02:53 -0700 Message-ID: <000301be9134$5f1fd080$b4570118@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ...A few SF artists heading down to LA for an outdoor fullmoon Tonka party that's gonna be a great time, feature some great trance artists, and will have some incredible speaker pit vibe that Sporty parties have always offered... I hope some of you can make it! peace! see you in the speaker pits! gEoff ;) -----Original Message----- From: SPORTY [mailto:heysporty@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 8:27 PM To: scr@socal-raves.org Subject: [scr] HAVE A NICE RAVE this fri apr 30 - update This friday, april 30th, sporty & friends are pleased to invite you to join us at HAVE A NICE RAVE. Located under the full moon and the stars at an outdoor location in the L.A. area. This will be a cd-release party for Christopher Lawrence's new cd, "CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE PRESENTS HOOK RECORDINGS." There will be free cd's given away. Be on the lookout during Christopher's set. Also, through special arrangement with Christopher, we're pleased to bring you a chance to catch yet another world-class dj who seemingly never performs in the LA area. His name is C.L. McSPADDEN. He's been highly recommended to me by both Sandra Collins and Christopher Lawrence. He has records out on a Hook Recordings family label, and he mostly does remixes for big soopastars like Madonna, etc., so he really doesn't have to try to "scratch out a living" like most of the djs we know and love. I understand we're in for a treat. Also, for you socal-ravers, scrubber GEOFF HERBST of STARGAZE (s.f.) will be spinning a beautiful morning set of uplifting trance. (well...if his set matches his cd, that is...) Also, BRYAN LEE will be back down from SF. He's with Huggie's Global Energy Musik, and he's one of my favorites. If you wanna hear RAVE music, don't miss his set! Also, for those of you that fell in love with ALIA from Seattle, she's also with Huggie's Global Energy Musik, and all his djs are that good...or better... EYAL has been preparing his new record(s?) for PhattPhunk, and he'll be performing for us as well. (Remember, this will be a FULL MOON outdoor party, so just imagine how good EYAL under the stars is going to be.) We're looking forward to having him again. Lastest but not leastest, ROSE KENNEDY of BEST FRIENDS/SKETCH PAD fame will be back to start things up. She's been performing out a lot lately and we're glad to have her back. TONKA will handle the sound, KNIGHTWATCH will handle the security. The location is safe, legal and secure, located about 20 mins from Hollywood. Tickets will be $10 if you get them before 10 pm, and only $15 after that. Call our info lines on friday for updated info. info lines: 323-957-4604 and 714-999-9393 Everybody take care, and we'll see you there! P.S. don't forget, bigger '99 will be on saturday may 29th (memorial day weekend) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 05:53:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6893 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 05:53:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 6885 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 05:53:48 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 05:53:48 -0000 Received: from IIBriSkII@aol.com (582) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLMa004279 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:53:06 -0400 (EDT) From: IIBriSkII@aol.com Message-ID: <2dd0e98b.2457fc40@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:53:04 EDT Subject: info on daddy's records To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: IIBriSkII@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk could someone give me the addresss to daddy's records??? or a phone number or something... thanks... BriSkE From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 06:57:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23875 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 06:57:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 23862 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 06:57:36 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 06:57:36 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3935) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xQQVa19330; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:56:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:55:59 EDT Subject: NRR&BP:Hip Hop In the Park-may 1st To: sf-jungle@saturn5.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Megatron45@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey all u raverz and junglist and all that good sheeT... if anyone on the list is down with the hip hop massive u guys should stroll down to berkeley this saturday at peoples park for the 3rd anuall hip hop in the park. i think its the 3rd anuall...idunno im loosin memory. but yeah its always fun at hip hop in the park and yall should go. so if u go let me know and i can give yall more info on it. for now... its this saturday may 1st at peoples park from 12 to 5 pm. check it... DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 07:21:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4464 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 07:21:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 4455 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 07:21:35 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 07:21:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA03232; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:22:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: Jay cc: Jason.LEE@adecco.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: Re: DSL HELP In-Reply-To: <002501be910c$cf853040$77019665@cuhelp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > ISDN is still a metered service, you would have to pay > per-minute/per-B-channel. There are no unlimited line usage plans for ISDN. That is not true... I have flat rate ISDN... Ma bell doesnt offer it directly, so you will have to find an ISP that has a deal with Ma bell... I get it for 60 bucks for the line and 40 for the service. Its really expensive, I would go cable or dsl if it is avaliable where you are... > > Best bet in the bay area (if your out of DSL trunk range) is Cable... check > @home for their range of installation. Another idea is buying into the > "Shotgun" technology(diamond) or modem binding technology(windows 98) > utilizing 2 56k modems for a throughput of 112k to 20K a second>. These solutions, though, need 2 phone lines and a > supporting ISP. Shotgun is really flaky... I wouldnt even consider going that route.. > > On the bright side, the PacBell technician that installed my DSL line > mentioned that PacBell might be installing DSL repeaters at midway points > along the trunk... increasing this high frequency technology's range. > > Love & Music, > -Jay > Unfortunately Ma Bell is being a bitch about installing repeaters, so you are pretty much out of luck there for DSL... I would go Cable if you can.. it is cheap and fast depending on your particular situation, but it will definetly be faster than your modem and usually faster than ISDN, and you will get a static IP (bonus!) that you will have to pay a LOT extra for if you go the ISDN route.. Good Luck... I wish I had better options... Gregery From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 09:15:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29400 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 09:15:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 29392 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 09:15:55 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 09:15:55 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA32208; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990428020724.007759a4@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:07:26 -0700 To: unclenoah , E-Bumpers By the Bay From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: Joaqman asks, "please read my revu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 01:28 PM 4/27/99 -0700, unclenoah wrote: >now, show me someone who's got 'The Gaza' by Andromeda on vinyl and i'll >be impressed... > show me someone who's got the club mix of 'Next is the E' on vinyl and i'll die ecstatic in their arms drowning in the sweet lush piano lines that tear my soul apart on a daily basis even in their tinny digitized CD format... or 'Total Confusion' by A Homeboy, A Hippie, and a Funki Dredd... or the mix of 'Age of Love' that's on _Classic Acid_... or-- i'll stop now. it hurts too much to think of these precious discs (the transcribed voices of angels, don't you know) gathering dust in some secret backwater used record store. *sniffle* someday. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 13:42:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25048 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 13:42:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 25027 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 13:41:56 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 13:41:56 -0000 Received: from [206.169.228.143] (ghana-143.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.143]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04987; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 06:41:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:03:51 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Wed) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk (nrr) Quote of the Day (Wed)

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From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 14:52:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27213 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 14:52:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 27205 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 14:52:34 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 14:52:34 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14381) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id tXHUa02131; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:51:27 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <89ac8c45.24587a65@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:51:17 EDT Subject: Re: FW: BSP HAVE A NICE RAVE this fri apr 30 - update To: gherbst@home.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tonka party? Mmmmmm, sound like my son should be there too. He could bring his earth movers and dump trucks. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 14:56:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29156 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 14:56:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 29145 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 14:56:14 -0000 Received: from mail-oak-2.pilot.net (HELO mail02-oak.pilot.net) (198.232.147.17) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 14:56:14 -0000 Received: from unknown-101-81.adecco.com (unknown-101-81.adecco.com [206.24.101.81] (may be forged)) by mail02-oak.pilot.net with ESMTP id HAA25500; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:56:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason.LEE@adecco.com Received: from boxster.hq.adia (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-101-81.adecco.com with SMTP id HAA08055; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by boxster.hq.adia(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 88256761.00520812 ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:56:00 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: US_ADECCO To: Kevin Simonich cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <88256761.0051A5D5.00@boxster.hq.adia> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:55:35 -0700 Subject: Re: DSL HELP & Cable Modem Service Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've always known about TCI @ HOME, but unfortunately they are moving at a snails pace, as far as I know they have preatty much the majority of the east bay wired, but they don't or have not even begun to wire SF, South Bay, or the Peninsula.... where I am at in Daly City, perhaps theres another cable modem service other than TCI @ HOME that I'm not aware of? Jason Try out Covad. I do believe their website is www.covad.com. I don't have a personal line from them, but I do have a DSL line from them for work, and I've had almost zero problems with it. (Far fewer than I have with my own personal Cable Modem, I must say.) -Opus From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 15:16:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11583 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 15:16:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 11574 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 15:16:36 -0000 Received: from oberon.dnai.com (207.181.194.97) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 15:16:36 -0000 Received: from dnai.com (dnai-207-181-251-78.dsl.dnai.com [207.181.251.78]) by oberon.dnai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27268; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372726DC.2BF98969@dnai.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:18:52 -0700 From: Martin Vasey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason.LEE@adecco.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: DSL HELP References: <88256760.0081EECC.00@boxster.hq.adia> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've been using COVAD now for some time here is SF. They offer service only thru ISP's (so you get one bill for both telco and ISP and have one contact). I use DNAI in Berkeley as an ISP and I've had no connection problems now for about a year.. DSL, IDSL, ADSL is still kind of costly for personal use but I expect that to change quickly in the future with PacBells new pricing and more widespread cheap cable modem access... Anyway, check out COVADs website. They have good maps showing availability. I've been happy with DNAI as an ISP and they offer COVAD or PacBell. They also offer a highspeed Wireless service but the setup looks to expensive... Later, Martin Jason.LEE@adecco.com wrote: > I can no longer tollerate my ISP, I need something better but something > thats not going to bust my wallet. So can anyone reffer me to an ISP that > can give me DSL or ISDN at a good rate, I live in Daly City / South SF, and > Pacbell can't offer it to me cuz I'm outside the 3 mile radius of the > central station... Please Help... > > Greatly appreciated > > Jason From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 15:38:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 370 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 15:38:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 346 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 15:38:36 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 15:38:36 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09426 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:38:32 -0700 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:22:58 -0700 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB932@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: leaving this address Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:22:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hello everyone, just a quick note to announce that this email: ericj@foxracing.com, will be dropped...if you need to get a hold of me my email at home is: whakball@earthlink.net. please make a note of it...or don't??!!?? thanks for your time eric j ps - anyone need or know of someone that needs a film or video editor??? i am good (award winning) and open for contract work as of today (4.28.99) i can be reached at 408.245.5859 or at email: whakball@earthlink.net. thanks ej From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 15:44:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2993 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 15:43:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 2984 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 15:43:56 -0000 Received: from f136.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 15:43:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 14650 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 15:42:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428154214.14649.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:42:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu, unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Joaqman asks, Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:42:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I have it!! if you are talking about next is the E by moby? the one where the girl is saying "I feel it" yea... I feel it.. then it breaks down and they say something like A to the I next is the E.. Kind of break beaty circa early 90's I have that and renegade soundwave stuff. Not to mention packet of peace remixx that everyone was looking for you know.. Lion rock sound system... O when I use to play breaks.. that is how cyber trance is these days. In those days it was breaks that you started off with then you evolved now it is trance you start out with. Peaces Macadio (Ranting raver) >From: josh sorkin >To: unclenoah ,E-Bumpers By the Bay >Subject: Re: Joaqman asks, "please read my revu" >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:07:26 -0700 > >At 01:28 PM 4/27/99 -0700, unclenoah wrote: > >>now, show me someone who's got 'The Gaza' by Andromeda on vinyl and i'll >>be impressed... >> > >show me someone who's got the club mix of 'Next is the E' on vinyl and i'll >die ecstatic in their arms drowning in the sweet lush piano lines that tear >my soul apart on a daily basis even in their tinny digitized CD format... > >or 'Total Confusion' by A Homeboy, A Hippie, and a Funki Dredd... > >or the mix of 'Age of Love' that's on _Classic Acid_... > >or-- > >i'll stop now. it hurts too much to think of these precious discs (the >transcribed voices of angels, don't you know) gathering dust in some secret >backwater used record store. > >*sniffle* someday. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 15:44:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3726 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 15:44:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 3709 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 15:44:21 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 15:44:21 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-163.dsp.com [204.118.76.163]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA02409; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:44:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199904281544.IAA02409@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:39:06 -0700 To: Martin Vasey , Jason.LEE@adecco.com From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: DSL HELP Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <372726DC.2BF98969@dnai.com> References: <88256760.0081EECC.00@boxster.hq.adia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk LAN Mines, also in Berkeley, set me up with my (Covad) DSL service. You can have your email and web servers thru them or not, and you can get a really cheap dialup service (for when you're travelling) too. Or not. They rule as far as customer service. They also made nice neighbors. Lanminds 510-843-6389 1700 Martin Luther King Jr Way,Berkeley, CA 94709-2114 Jessica At 08:18 AM 4/28/99 -0700, Martin Vasey wrote: >I've been using COVAD now for some time here is SF. They offer service only >thru ISP's (so you get one bill for both telco and ISP and have one contact). I >use DNAI in Berkeley as an ISP and I've had no connection problems now for >about a year.. > >DSL, IDSL, ADSL is still kind of costly for personal use but I expect that to >change quickly in the future with PacBells new pricing and more widespread >cheap cable modem access... > >Anyway, check out COVADs website. They have good maps showing availability. >I've been happy with DNAI as an ISP and they offer COVAD or PacBell. They also >offer a highspeed Wireless service but the setup looks to expensive... > >Later, >Martin > >Jason.LEE@adecco.com wrote: > >> I can no longer tollerate my ISP, I need something better but something >> thats not going to bust my wallet. So can anyone reffer me to an ISP that >> can give me DSL or ISDN at a good rate, I live in Daly City / South SF, and >> Pacbell can't offer it to me cuz I'm outside the 3 mile radius of the >> central station... Please Help... >> >> Greatly appreciated >> >> Jason > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 16:06:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18423 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 16:06:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18415 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 16:06:09 -0000 Received: from wya-oe17.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 16:06:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 51469 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 16:07:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428160733.51468.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.111.184.96 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:07:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.111.184.96] From: "Justin Hale" To: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Joaqman asks, Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:07:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i have the first two, next is the e, and total confusion. justin >From: josh sorkin >To: unclenoah ,E-Bumpers By the Bay >Subject: Re: Joaqman asks, "please read my revu" >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:07:26 -0700 > >At 01:28 PM 4/27/99 -0700, unclenoah wrote: > >>now, show me someone who's got 'The Gaza' by Andromeda on vinyl and i'll >>be impressed... >> > >show me someone who's got the club mix of 'Next is the E' on vinyl and i'll >die ecstatic in their arms drowning in the sweet lush piano lines that tear >my soul apart on a daily basis even in their tinny digitized CD format... > >or 'Total Confusion' by A Homeboy, A Hippie, and a Funki Dredd... > >or the mix of 'Age of Love' that's on _Classic Acid_... > >or-- > >i'll stop now. it hurts too much to think of these precious discs (the >transcribed voices of angels, don't you know) gathering dust in some secret >backwater used record store. > >*sniffle* someday. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 16:37:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6888 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 16:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6872 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 16:37:21 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd91.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.155) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 16:37:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 152 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 16:36:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428163654.151.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.193.220 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:36:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.193.220] From: "ve anne" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: new years eve Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:36:54 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i had a horrible nightmare last night. i was at this massive rave on new years eve. candy ravers, junglists, 16 year old girls in 12 inch platform shoes... EVERYONE was there. the count down started and suddenly i hear this *boomboomboomboomboomboomboom!* this guy wearing a huge dr. seuss striped hat starts shooting at everyone yelling, "the end is near!" then i hear bombs going off and people screaming and crying and bodies falling down everywhere. :~( when i get off work today, i'm going to dig a hole in my backyard and hide for cover on new years eve... with all the chaos erupting and everything, i'd think i'll play it safe this december 31st... besides, it's just another night, just another party... me From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 16:51:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13771 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 16:51:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 13739 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 16:51:03 -0000 Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 16:51:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428164833.17235.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:48:33 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:48:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: <> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, will the true junglists please come forth... Who's going to the Kung Fu Knowledge Tour tonight? I've been waiting my sickass all weekend for this, even popped a few penicillins, some spoonfulls of royal jelly, and Im ready to rumble, feel the ground shake, drink a beer, and dance. whos down? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:03:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25780 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:03:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 25737 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:03:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.starfish.com) (208.222.97.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:03:30 -0000 Received: from BKAGAN_P166 ([192.216.180.184]) by mail.starfish.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52234U200L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:53:39 -0700 From: "Bradley Kagan" To: Subject: NRR-About this list Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:59:40 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be9198$818cd6e0$b8b4d8c0@BKAGAN_P166.starfish.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone, Even though I have only been on this list for three days now I have to say how totally relieved I am to be here. The last list I was on was very critical of other lists, DJ's and massives and most of them hated trance. Well, I love the massives, I love trance and I love hearing new DJ's I have never heard. So far from what I have seen on this list has pleased me. From what I have read this list is very open minded and it seems people here like the bigger parties as well as the smaller ones. I have already read a few great posts about one of my favorite trance DJ's Micron. The last list I was on was filled with people who have been raving for years, which is very cool, except for the fact they could not look past how much the scene has changed since they first got into it. They put down other promoters, other DJ's and big parties. Half of the posts I would receive where debates between the list members. If I asked a question about a certain DJ or some advice on music gear I would be torn back with smart ass and even critical posts. They had no support for any one who was not in their click. To me this is not part of our scene. It seems SF Raves is going to be a great place for me. I have already got some great info from this list and the things I read are what I consider the life force of our scene. Sharing, love, jokes, good info, PLUR are all some of things I have seen here and I love it. I want to thankyou all here at SF Raves for the past three days. I have fully enjoyed them and am very relieved I have found a list that is a great part of our scene. For three days now you all ROCK!!! Love, Brad " The music does not come from the instrument. It comes from our souls. To create it you must not play it, you must feel it" Steve Via guitarist From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:16:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4783 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:16:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 4469 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:16:20 -0000 Received: from seidc.sei.com (198.202.174.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:16:20 -0000 Received: from sei.com (ntws18.sei.com [198.202.174.85]) by seidc.sei.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23438 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37274305.77231D6@sei.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:19:01 -0700 From: Martin Randall Organization: SEI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [NRR] Chieftains tickets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Not exactly rave-related, but if anyone on the list is into Irish folk music, I have 2 tickets for the Chieftains concert in SF next Tuesday I can't use. The Chieftains are arguably the premiere Irish folk group active today, fabulous dance music (of the other kind). The seats are RowG - should be a great show. Anyone interested? - Martin =] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:18:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6317 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:18:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 6265 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:18:07 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd94.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.158) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:18:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 18630 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 17:17:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428171740.18629.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.193.59 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:17:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.193.59] From: "ve anne" To: bradley.kagan@starfish.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR-About this list Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:17:40 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk three days? try another month and try posting this email again ;) veanne From: "Bradley Kagan" To: Subject: NRR-About this list Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:59:40 -0700 Hello Everyone, Even though I have only been on this list for three days now I have to say how totally relieved I am to be here. The last list I was on was very critical of other lists, DJ's and massives and most of them hated trance. Well, I love the massives, I love trance and I love hearing new DJ's I have never heard. So far from what I have seen on this list has pleased me. From what I have read this list is very open minded and it seems people here like the bigger parties as well as the smaller ones. I have already read a few great posts about one of my favorite trance DJ's Micron. The last list I was on was filled with people who have been raving for years, which is very cool, except for the fact they could not look past how much the scene has changed since they first got into it. They put down other promoters, other DJ's and big parties. Half of the posts I would receive where debates between the list members. If I asked a question about a certain DJ or some advice on music gear I would be torn back with smart ass and even critical posts. They had no support for any one who was not in their click. To me this is not part of our scene. It seems SF Raves is going to be a great place for me. I have already got some great info from this list and the things I read are what I consider the life force of our scene. Sharing, love, jokes, good info, PLUR are all some of things I have seen here and I love it. I want to thankyou all here at SF Raves for the past three days. I have fully enjoyed them and am very relieved I have found a list that is a great part of our scene. For three days now you all ROCK!!! Love, Brad " The music does not come from the instrument. It comes from our souls. To create it you must not play it, you must feel it" Steve Via guitarist From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:19:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7142 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:19:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 7000 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:18:47 -0000 Received: from web114.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.86) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:18:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428172131.8104.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.54.34] by web114.yahoomail.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:21:31 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:21:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: <> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Where is it going to be. I lost the post that had the info stuff. Hmmm...I down but I'm in Monterey and have to be back for work in the morning at 7:30. Because of that none of my friends here will go. What time does it get over? Well, if a group of ppl are willing to meet up prior to going then I'll go. Mostly because I get lost everytime I drive in SF. ;) We could meet up at Compound Records. I can almost make it there without getting too lost. *HUGZ* pat --- Jess ica wrote: > Ok, will the true junglists please come forth... > > Who's going to the Kung Fu Knowledge Tour tonight? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:22:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9968 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:22:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 9832 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:22:04 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:22:04 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-88.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.88]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07875; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001901be919b$fe564e60$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "ve anne" , References: <19990428163654.151.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: new years eve Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:24:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am right there with you! I am very rarely the "it only happens ONCE" type of people... I think I can let this new years slide. People are too insane now-a-days, I don't feel like putting myself in someone's path of "I will ring in the new century with something they will never forget". Blah... Love & Music, -Jay (Stockpiling records... ;)) ----- Original Message ----- From: ve anne To: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:36 AM Subject: new years eve > i had a horrible nightmare last night. i was at this massive rave on > new years eve. candy ravers, junglists, 16 year old girls in 12 inch > platform shoes... EVERYONE was there. the count down started and > suddenly i hear this *boomboomboomboomboomboomboom!* this guy wearing > a huge dr. seuss striped hat starts shooting at everyone yelling, > "the end is near!" then i hear bombs going off and people screaming > and crying and bodies falling down everywhere. :~( > > when i get off work today, i'm going to dig a hole in my backyard and > hide for cover on new years eve... > > with all the chaos erupting and everything, i'd think i'll play it > safe this december 31st... besides, it's just another night, just > another party... > > me > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:24:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12530 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:24:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 12519 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:24:04 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:24:04 -0000 Received: from HppyXTC@aol.com (15545) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJJSa21993; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:23:23 -0400 (EDT) From: HppyXTC@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:23:22 EDT Subject: Fwd: San Francisco Million Marijuana March and Rally To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, cmpcalln@hypersurf.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_eee2d705.24589e0a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Reply-To: HppyXTC@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --part1_eee2d705.24589e0a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_eee2d705.24589e0a_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) by air-yd02.mx.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:24:50 -0400 Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (c004-h006.c004.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.77]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id MAA00375 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 2045 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 08:59:58 -0700 Received: from c657512-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com (HELO c657512-a) (24.1.112.237) by smtp.drugpeace.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 08:59:58 -0700 X-Sent: 28 Apr 1999 15:59:58 GMT Message-ID: <00d501be9190$55843b40$ed700118@c657512-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> Reply-To: "Julia" From: "Julia" To: "Julia" Subject: San Francisco Million Marijuana March and Rally Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:59:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Just in case anyone was wondering what the SFMMM was: MAY DAY IS JAY DAY! Come out to San Francisco! Stand up and march for the rights of millions of marijuana users! Let's get marijuana out of the closets and into the coffee shops! ANNOUNCING THE MILLION MARIJUANA MARCH AND RALLY! Medical Marijuana • Industrial Hemp • Pot Smoker's Rights • Drug Peace May 1st 1999 United Nations Plaza Gather for Rally at High Noon Pot Pride Parade at 4:20pm 'Dance for Pot' Party on the Plaza until 7pm! Fun for all! Speakers and Entertainment: Chris Conrad, BACH • Dale Gieringer, California NORML • Tom Ammiano, SF City Supervisor • J. Tony Serra, well-known defense attorney • Mikki Norris, Human Rights and the Drug War Exhibit • Richard Evans, medical marijuana provider • David Ford, author of "Marijuana: Not Guilty As Charged" • Pete Brady, marijuana defendent and correspondent for High Times • Julia Carter, the Drug Peace Campaign and More... MCs: The Woodnymph and Fantuzzi Live opening music provided by Ten Ton Chicken! Performances by The Toyes, Clan Dyken and Ungaio Bealum. 'Dance for Pot' Party and Sound System by Radio-V.com Featuring these well-known Psy Trance DJs: Rob Rayle (Sacred Dance Society, Koinonea), Tom (Koinonea), Tim (CCC) Drum Circle • Human Rights and the Drug War Exhibit Information Tables • Booths • Free Speech Platform • Acoustic Pot Song-a-Thon • Refreshments Available The Pot Pride Parade: Bring Signs, Banners and Costumes to join in the Pot Pride Parade starting at 4:20pm from United Nations Plaza. We will march from U.N. Plaza, turn right on Market St, then up Market to Van Ness and then down McAllister, right on Hyde back to UN Plaza. Volunteers: Volunteers are needed and appreciated. Anyone interested is urged to join us at an event orientation meeting at 11am near the main stage at UN Plaza on May Day. However, if you can't make the meeting and still wish to help out, please ask for Katie (or Julia) when you arrive at the event. For more info check back at our Website www.drugpeace.org/mmm or E-mail the organizers at: SFmmm@hotmail.com; You can also leave a Voice Mail on: (415) 971-3573 Click Here: http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm/mmmdirections.html for maps and directions on how to get to the SFMMM Event Sponsors and Organizers: The National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), Californians For Compassionate Use, The Drug Peace Campaign, The Business Alliance for Commerce in Hemp (BACH), Cures-Not-Wars, CAMP, Human Rights and the Drug War Exhibit, Radio-V.com, The Legalize! Initiative, Positive Solutions, Hemp Town USA, The Cannabis Action Network, C.H.A.M.P., Patients and Caregivers Health Center of San Francisco Click here to read the letter from the SF MMM Organizers! http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm/mmmletter.html We are expecting a large turnout at the San Francisco MMM and welcome supportive not-for-profit groups and organizations to have booths or information tables to accept donations and and distribute literature at the event in return for a nominal charge. Please contact Heather at MMMtables@aol.com for further information. Drug War or Drug Peace? Check out http://www.drugpeace.org --part1_eee2d705.24589e0a_boundary-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:25:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13516 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:25:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 13508 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:25:54 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:25:54 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-88.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.88]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA10974 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002701be919c$8a6c9490$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: Subject: Mystr-E track question.... Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know the name of the track on side A (single triangle) of Mystr-E's tape, Mystery 3 ? It kicks ass and would like to pick it up myself if possible. It goes: dum-da-dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaaaaaaauhhhhhggggg dum-da-dum-da Ok, the last part was a joke, but seriously =) Love & Music, -Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:37:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21189 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:37:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 21029 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:36:44 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:36:44 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23195; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA25553; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:34:23 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Jay" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:41:41 -0700 Message-ID: <001801be919e$605005f0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <002701be919c$8a6c9490$77019665@cuhelp.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk which track? there is more than just one track on that side of the tape =P M<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Jay > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:29 AM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Mystr-E track question.... > > > Does anyone know the name of the track on side A (single triangle) of > Mystr-E's tape, Mystery 3 ? It kicks ass and would like to pick it up > myself if possible. > > It goes: dum-da-dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaaaaaaauhhhhhggggg dum-da-dum-da > > > Ok, the last part was a joke, but seriously =) > > Love & Music, > -Jay > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:38:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21887 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:38:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 21722 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:38:09 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:38:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428174131.24818.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.99] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:41:31 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:41:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: <> To: Patrick Seaton , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im totally down to meet there early, im not gonna lag tonight, not at all. That would be cool. Im sure there will be a bsp sometime today on the list, but ill forward you the last one. Jessica --- Patrick Seaton wrote: > Where is it going to be. I lost the post that had > the info stuff. > > Hmmm...I down but I'm in Monterey and have to be > back for work in the > morning at 7:30. Because of that none of my friends > here will go. > What time does it get over? > > Well, if a group of ppl are willing to meet up prior > to going then I'll > go. Mostly because I get lost everytime I drive in > SF. ;) We could > meet up at Compound Records. I can almost make it > there without > getting too lost. > > > *HUGZ* > pat > > > > --- Jess ica wrote: > > Ok, will the true junglists please come forth... > > > > Who's going to the Kung Fu Knowledge Tour tonight? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:42:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26607 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:42:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 26592 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:42:53 -0000 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.117) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:42:53 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id KAA26750; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:42:51 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <001801be919e$605005f0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk isn't the track identified on the tape's tracklisting? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:47:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1345 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:46:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1308 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:46:56 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:46:56 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA20033; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:44:10 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: "MooK<><" cc: Jay , Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... In-Reply-To: <001801be919e$605005f0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, MooK<>< wrote: > which track? there is more than just one track on that side of the tape =P > M<>< > y'know, the one that goes dum-da-dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaaaaaaauhhhhhggggg dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaa (subtract the last 'waaaa' - i just threw that in) b- ____ "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, and you will have his shoes." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:48:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2883 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:48:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 2825 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:47:59 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:47:59 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (7807) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iUQa010293; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:29:16 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <1745f61f.24589f68@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:29:12 EDT Subject: Re: NRR-About this list To: poeie@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BigM009@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahaha, I was thinking the same thing. Try the list after a FGE party. J/K Vlad. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:53:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6884 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:53:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6873 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:53:04 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:53:04 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-201-88.oak.jps.net [209.239.201.88]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA02797; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006f01be91a0$27ba7ac0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "MooK<><" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" References: <001801be919e$605005f0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> Subject: Re: Mystr-E track question.... Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:54:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Haha... guess it would help =) Sorry.... _First_ song on the A side of the tape. And no to the track listing, just a J card with some thanks and what-not... Love & Music, -Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: MooK<>< To: Jay ; Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:41 AM Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... > which track? there is more than just one track on that side of the tape =P > M<>< > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > Behalf Of Jay > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:29 AM > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Mystr-E track question.... > > > > > > Does anyone know the name of the track on side A (single triangle) of > > Mystr-E's tape, Mystery 3 ? It kicks ass and would like to pick it up > > myself if possible. > > > > It goes: dum-da-dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaaaaaaauhhhhhggggg dum-da-dum-da > > > > > > Ok, the last part was a joke, but seriously =) > > > > Love & Music, > > -Jay > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 17:56:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9045 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 17:56:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 8887 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:56:35 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:56:35 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24045; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA18353; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:54:22 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "boing" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:01:40 -0700 Message-ID: <001901be91a1$2ad4e4b0$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk oh sorry I wasn't paying attention. I thought it might have been that other one that goes da-dum-da-dum waaaaaauuuugguuwawa da-dum-da-dum, my bad. ;-P M<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: boing [mailto:byoung@wenet.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:44 AM > To: MooK<>< > Cc: Jay; Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys > Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... > > > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, MooK<>< wrote: > > > which track? there is more than just one track on that side of > the tape =P > > M<>< > > > > y'know, the one that goes > > dum-da-dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaaaaaaauhhhhhggggg dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaa > > (subtract the last 'waaaa' - i just threw that in) > > b- > ____ > "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. > Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, > and you will have his shoes." > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 18:15:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21756 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 18:15:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 21488 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 18:15:33 -0000 Received: from linex1.linex.com (HELO relay.linex.net) (199.4.98.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 18:15:33 -0000 Received: from linex4.linex.com (linex4.linex.com [199.4.98.14]) by relay.linex.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA02776; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linex.linex.com by linex4.linex.com (NX5.67c/NX3.0S) id AA05631; Wed, 28 Apr 99 11:14:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: aminita To: Jess ica Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Count me in! Re: <> In-Reply-To: <19990428164833.17235.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hellya! this sh*ts gonna be the bombdigity! say hi! who else is going? shira On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Jess ica wrote: > Ok, will the true junglists please come forth... > > Who's going to the Kung Fu Knowledge Tour tonight? > I've been waiting my sickass all weekend for this, even popped a few > penicillins, some spoonfulls of royal jelly, and Im ready to rumble, > feel the ground shake, drink a beer, and dance. > > whos down? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 18:19:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24249 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 18:19:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 24078 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 18:18:49 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 18:18:49 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.157]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-48930U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA333; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:27:20 -0700 Message-ID: <014101be91a3$5d8beaa0$9d0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: "aminita" , "Jess ica" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Count me in! Re: <> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:17:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to Hi......I will see you guys there...i have burgundy hair.... Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: aminita To: Jess ica Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:14 AM Subject: Count me in! Re: <> > hellya! this sh*ts gonna be the bombdigity! > say hi! who else is going? > > shira > > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Jess ica wrote: > > > Ok, will the true junglists please come forth... > > > > Who's going to the Kung Fu Knowledge Tour tonight? > > I've been waiting my sickass all weekend for this, even popped a few > > penicillins, some spoonfulls of royal jelly, and Im ready to rumble, > > feel the ground shake, drink a beer, and dance. > > > > whos down? > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 18:43:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9238 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 18:43:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 9228 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 18:42:58 -0000 Received: from ww187.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 18:42:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 10440 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Apr 1999 18:42:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428184256.10439.qmail@ww187.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.87 by ww187 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Wed Apr 28 18:42:55 GMT 1999 Date: 28 Apr 99 11:42:55 PDT From: Stuart Sung To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: <>] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk My friend & I will be there. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D There's only one success - Being able to spend your life your own way. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 18:44:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10139 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 18:44:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 10094 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 18:43:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tides3.tides) (198.94.2.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 18:43:55 -0000 Received: by TIDES3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:50:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mark Hellar To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: Count me in! Re: <> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:50:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'll be there, a chinese boy with an Akira T Shirt -----Original Message----- From: aminita [mailto:aminita@linex.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:15 AM To: Jess ica Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Count me in! Re: <> hellya! this sh*ts gonna be the bombdigity! say hi! who else is going? shira On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Jess ica wrote: > Ok, will the true junglists please come forth... > > Who's going to the Kung Fu Knowledge Tour tonight? > I've been waiting my sickass all weekend for this, even popped a few > penicillins, some spoonfulls of royal jelly, and Im ready to rumble, > feel the ground shake, drink a beer, and dance. > > whos down? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 18:52:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14991 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 18:52:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 14918 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 18:52:31 -0000 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 18:52:31 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id LAA17481; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:52:28 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Mystr-E track question.... To: E-Bumpers By the Bay In-Reply-To: <006f01be91a0$27ba7ac0$77019665@cuhelp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk no track listing?! well, i'd go down to F-8, ask what the track was, buy the vinyl, and return the tape and request a refund on it. not putting a tracklisting on your mixtape is just about the lowest thing a DJ can do, IMHO. it's completely disrespectful to the artists who've made the tracks and it's a big disservice to the fans who are actually interested in the music (like in this situation). i mean, how hard is it to look at the labels of your rekkids and write down what you spun? and it's especially odd that someone associated with a record store wouldn't want their fans to know what records are on a tape. sorry to spout off. lack of tracklistings is just one of my "hot buttons" :/ On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Jay wrote: > Haha... guess it would help =) Sorry.... _First_ song on the A side of the > tape. > > And no to the track listing, just a J card with some thanks and what-not... > > Love & Music, > -Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MooK<>< > To: Jay ; Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:41 AM > Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... > > > > which track? there is more than just one track on that side of the tape =P > > M<>< > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > > Behalf Of Jay > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:29 AM > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: Mystr-E track question.... > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know the name of the track on side A (single triangle) of > > > Mystr-E's tape, Mystery 3 ? It kicks ass and would like to pick it up > > > myself if possible. > > > > > > It goes: dum-da-dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaaaaaaauhhhhhggggg dum-da-dum-da > > > > > > > > > Ok, the last part was a joke, but seriously =) > > > > > > Love & Music, > > > -Jay > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 19:14:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26070 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:14:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 25937 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:13:56 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:13:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428185713.17527.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.242] by web1; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:57:13 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: Mystr-E track question.... To: unclenoah , E-Bumpers By the Bay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There ya go again..someone had to mention track listings to Uncle nOah. Thats your first mistake... =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---unclenoah wrote: > > > > > no track listing?! well, i'd go down to F-8, ask what the track was, buy > the vinyl, and return the tape and request a refund on it. > > not putting a tracklisting on your mixtape is just about the lowest > thing a DJ can do, IMHO. it's completely disrespectful to the artists > who've made the tracks and it's a big disservice to the fans who are > actually interested in the music (like in this situation). i mean, how > hard is it to look at the labels of your rekkids and write down what you > spun? > > and it's especially odd that someone associated with a record store > wouldn't want their fans to know what records are on a tape. > > sorry to spout off. lack of tracklistings is just one of my "hot buttons" > > :/ > > > > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Jay wrote: > > > Haha... guess it would help =) Sorry.... _First_ song on the A side of the > > tape. > > > > And no to the track listing, just a J card with some thanks and what-not... > > > > Love & Music, > > -Jay > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: MooK<>< > > To: Jay ; Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:41 AM > > Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... > > > > > > > which track? there is more than just one track on that side of the tape =P > > > M<>< > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > > > > Behalf Of Jay > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:29 AM > > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > > > Subject: Mystr-E track question.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know the name of the track on side A (single triangle) of > > > > Mystr-E's tape, Mystery 3 ? It kicks ass and would like to pick it up > > > > myself if possible. > > > > > > > > It goes: dum-da-dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaaaaaaauhhhhhggggg dum-da-dum-da > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, the last part was a joke, but seriously =) > > > > > > > > Love & Music, > > > > -Jay > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or > death." - Casey Brackley > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 19:18:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29966 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:18:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 29727 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:18:17 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:18:17 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03686 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:18:14 -0700 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:04:40 -0700 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB934@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Recall: leaving this address Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:04:40 -0700 Expiry-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:04:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Eric Jones would like to recall the message, "leaving this address". From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 19:22:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2300 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:22:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 1852 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:21:28 -0000 Received: from f61.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.195) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:21:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 29218 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 19:25:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428192513.29217.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.101.121.106 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:25:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.101.121.106] From: "p r" To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Underworld Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:25:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello 2 all, Who's going 2 Underworld tomorrow night? I'd like 2 meet some of u ppl, so let's set up a time and place ok? It's gonna b tight! P "Pan metron ariston" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 19:41:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15398 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15141 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:41:11 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd103.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:41:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 77355 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 19:40:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428194040.77354.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 12.72.193.80 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:40:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.72.193.80] From: "David Ramirez" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: new years eve Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:40:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dat sounds scary but like it could happen.. =( thinkin twice bout partyin new years eve now.. david.. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "ve anne" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: new years eve Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:36:54 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 >From sfraves-owner-raver_hp=hotmail.com@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 09:38:25 1999 Received: (qmail 6888 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 16:37:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6872 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 16:37:21 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd91.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.155)by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 16:37:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 152 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 16:36:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428163654.151.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.193.220 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP;Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:36:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.193.220] Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i had a horrible nightmare last night. i was at this massive rave on new years eve. candy ravers, junglists, 16 year old girls in 12 inch platform shoes... EVERYONE was there. the count down started and suddenly i hear this *boomboomboomboomboomboomboom!* this guy wearing a huge dr. seuss striped hat starts shooting at everyone yelling, "the end is near!" then i hear bombs going off and people screaming and crying and bodies falling down everywhere. :~( when i get off work today, i'm going to dig a hole in my backyard and hide for cover on new years eve... with all the chaos erupting and everything, i'd think i'll play it safe this december 31st... besides, it's just another night, just another party... me From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 19:43:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16786 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:43:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 16608 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:43:08 -0000 Received: from sco.sco.com (132.147.128.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:43:08 -0000 Received: from novasco.sco.COM(132.147.178.252) via SMTP by sco.sco.COM, id smtpdBAAa0046z; Wed Apr 28 12:42:33 1999 Received: from lesleymo.sco.com by novasco.sco.com id aa24023; 28 Apr 99 12:39 PDT Message-ID: <372763D3.EC2EF786@sco.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:38:59 -0700 From: Lesley Mortell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p r CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Underworld References: <19990428192513.29217.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going, first proper night out since arriving in Santa Cruz from the UK - I'm taking some non-raver people from here who I have indoctrinated into the delights of Underworld. Anyone any idea what time this is likely to finish and if it's early any recommendations on where to go after. Lesley p r wrote: > > Hello 2 all, > Who's going 2 Underworld tomorrow night? > I'd like 2 meet some of u ppl, so let's set up a time and place ok? > It's gonna b tight! > > P > "Pan metron ariston" > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 19:50:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21802 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:49:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 21415 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:49:16 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:49:16 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9BMHSHC; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:49:06 EDT To: lesleymo@sco.COM Cc: armagedonas@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:09:17 -0700 Subject: Re: Underworld Message-ID: <19990422.220927.2678.0.Trigometric@juno.com> References: <19990428192513.29217.qmail@hotmail.com> <372763D3.EC2EF786@sco.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,4-15,17-41 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I too will be at the Underworld show. Got my tix on reserve at the box office. The doors to the show opens at 8 and I believe the whole shin-dig ends at one. Hope to see some of you there. Bye bye. Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:38:59 -0700 Lesley Mortell writes: >I'm going, first proper night out since arriving in Santa Cruz from >the >UK - I'm taking some non-raver people from here who I have >indoctrinated >into the delights of Underworld. > >Anyone any idea what time this is likely to finish and if it's early >any >recommendations on where to go after. > >Lesley > >p r wrote: >> >> Hello 2 all, >> Who's going 2 Underworld tomorrow night? >> I'd like 2 meet some of u ppl, so let's set up a time and place ok? >> It's gonna b tight! >> >> P >> "Pan metron ariston" >> >> > Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 19:50:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21944 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21699 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:49:41 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:49:41 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16152 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:49:33 -0700 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:25:02 -0700 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB937@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Recall: leaving this address Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:25:01 -0700 Expiry-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:24:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Eric Jones would like to recall the message, "leaving this address". From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 19:56:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28342 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:56:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 28016 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:56:36 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:56:36 -0000 Received: from BabyChinoZ@aol.com (7807) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNWKa08586 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:55:46 -0400 (EDT) From: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:55:47 EDT Subject: NNR:: BSP Papa Roach To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: BabyChinoZ@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok i know some of you know of Papa Roach, and some don't. Well in short they are a kick ass band from Vacavile. I wanted to let you kidz know that if you wanted to check out a sweet show before you go out parting this weekend, or even doing this as a change of pace. They are going to be playing this Friday April 30th. They are going to be playing with Soul Aggression, Alien Ant Farm, and Nine Past Nine. The show's going to be at the Cactus Club -- 417 S. 1st ST in San Jose ((Downtown San Jose)) It's a 16 and up show (((BRING ID THEY DO CHECK))) Doors at 8:30 show at 9:00. http://www.cactusclubsj.com/ http:://www.infested.com -tyson From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 19:59:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1783 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:59:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 1628 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:59:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO airlink.com) (199.108.92.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:59:30 -0000 Received: from [199.108.92.47] by airlink.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id A95CA4B0072; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:02:36 -0700 From: "Rick" To: "SFRaves" , "Dirty" Subject: Underworld SF Dirtymeet 1.0 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:57:00 -0700 Message-ID: <001f01be91b1$47281280$2f5c6cc7@tatooine.AirLink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <19990428192513.29217.qmail@hotmail.com> Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There are those that question... And for those, I have answers... Thursday, April 29th, 1999. Underworld at the warfield. concert is sold out. dirtymeet time is 7:00 at Blondie's Pizza 63 Powell St. San Francisco, CA 94102-2811 415-982-6168 http://www.mapsonus.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~37275285.f41d1.64cd.9/c=1/refs rc=SB.newsb/isredir=1/ the above link should still be valid. zoom in for greater detail. all are welcome to stop by. from there, the dirtymeet will be moved to the warfield, around 7:45 or so. i believe the doors open at 8:00 and i figure most of you would want to get there early anyways. from there, i'll try to group us at or near the bar. or at least someplace where those with balcony seats are able to meet up. everything else is up to the fates. i will be holding a small sign that reads, and i quote, "are you dirty? sf dirtymeet 1.0 http://dirty.org" so it shall be written, so it shall be done. my name is rick, often referred to as the jedi bitch, jedi666boy. introduce yourself. take pictures. give me copies. i'll scan em. email me. rickf@airlink.com i'd post my phone number, but i think not. if you need me, get a hold of me soon. i'll be out of the office, away from email at around 5 on thursday, for which i will be picking up a few people, and heading to sf. it's a long drive through rush hour traffic, sympathy, please. see you there. and if i don't, well then, you sir/madam, suck the box. bruce lee. your jedi bitch, jedi666boy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 20:05:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6335 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 20:05:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 5932 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 20:05:06 -0000 Received: from loviatar.webcom.com (209.1.28.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 20:05:06 -0000 Received: from eresh.webcom.com (eresh.webcom.com [209.1.28.49]) by loviatar.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA27309 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:05:00 -0700 Received: from [209.245.141.77] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 28417675; Wed Apr 28 13:01 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <3727693F.36F6A8BD@silverpearl.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:02:07 -0700 From: Silver Pearl Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Techno Cosmic Mass review References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I hope that the list realizes that this is just Linda Lowrance, the owner of JJ Newberry's in diguise. There is nothing spiritual, nothing postive, and nothing real about anything thatshe has her mits in. Please realize that no matter what propaganda you here about things at her space, no matter what other people truly believe, in the end, it all comes down to her making money. It is too bad that more people cannot see through her facade...because it seems as though she has the ability to entrap many good people into her web of lies, deceit, and greed. Please stay away from anything on the block the reside in....1900 Telegraph and 1900 Broadway. Peace, Silver Pearl PS...She is also responsible for the loft collapse last week that injured several of our raver friends... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 20:24:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19112 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 20:24:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 18766 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 20:24:22 -0000 Received: from law-f231.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.130.169) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 20:24:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 22540 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 20:23:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428202348.22539.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.236.45.61 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:23:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.236.45.61] From: "Wil Hanno" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: new years eve Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:23:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm going to be partying up in the hills near santa cruz that night every be careful and make sure that you're not driving a car at 12:00am because due to an onboard maintenace computer the car might shut off because it'll think it hasn't been serviced in 100 years when 2000 comes. particularly some models of honda's have this problem. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 20:38:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29834 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 20:38:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 29672 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 20:38:14 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 20:38:14 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3936) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id hOZQa12044; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:37:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <9cc8e3fa.2458cb6c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:37:00 EDT Subject: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) To: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't think this kid should have to request a refund on the tape, nor should anybody at F8 be obligated to tell him what the track is called. IMO of course! Look at it this way - Mike and Eric are running a shop selling "their sound" and trying to DJ it at the very same time. TRUE, not putting a track listing is somewhat disrespectful to the artists, but in F8's position, I don't blame them for no track listing. There are those few tracks that they will keep to themselves for sake of their careers. I've gone in the shop before asking about a certain track on one of their tapes and got this bullshit story, "Oh, there were only ten copies of that record ever sent to the U.S." No, they just didn't wanna give me the damn record and I was completely respectful for that. You see, where will they be a year from now with every kid that comes through their shop spinning their sound? Washed up and back to Ben & Jerry's! Well, not really, since they own the shop and a new label, but they are DJ's, and they gotta watch their backs. You know as a DJ, you spend many hours diggin' through bins and many years finding those certain labels and artists. And you just wanna give it away? When you are playing a set at a party, do you let the record end, and make an announcement as to what that track was called? "That was '??' with his latest release entitled '?? ep' on the '??' label out of New York" How do you feel about trainspotters? Is there a difference? On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:52:28 -0700 (PDT) unclenoah writes: > > > >no track listing?! well, i'd go down to F-8, ask what the track was, >buy >the vinyl, and return the tape and request a refund on it. > >not putting a tracklisting on your mixtape is just about the lowest >thing a DJ can do, IMHO. it's completely disrespectful to the artists > >who've made the tracks and it's a big disservice to the fans who are >actually interested in the music (like in this situation). i mean, >how >hard is it to look at the labels of your rekkids and write down what >you >spun? > >and it's especially odd that someone associated with a record store >wouldn't want their fans to know what records are on a tape. > >sorry to spout off. lack of tracklistings is just one of my "hot >buttons" > >:/ > > > >On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Jay wrote: > >> Haha... guess it would help =) Sorry.... _First_ song on the A >side of the >> tape. >> >> And no to the track listing, just a J card with some thanks and >what-not... >> >> Love & Music, >> -Jay >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: MooK<>< >> To: Jay ; Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:41 AM >> Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... >> >> >> > which track? there is more than just one track on that side of the >tape =P >> > M<>< >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org >[mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On >> > > Behalf Of Jay >> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:29 AM >> > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> > > Subject: Mystr-E track question.... >> > > >> > > >> > > Does anyone know the name of the track on side A (single >triangle) of >> > > Mystr-E's tape, Mystery 3 ? It kicks ass and would like to pick >it up >> > > myself if possible. >> > > >> > > It goes: dum-da-dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaaaaaaauhhhhhggggg >dum-da-dum-da >> > > >> > > >> > > Ok, the last part was a joke, but seriously =) >> > > >> > > Love & Music, >> > > -Jay >> > > >> > >> >> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >"Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic >or >death." - Casey Brackley >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons >714.558.7626 >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:05:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18153 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:05:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 17919 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:05:09 -0000 Received: from f142.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.21) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:05:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 30820 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 21:05:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428210506.30819.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.86.40.70 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:05:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.86.40.70] From: "becky thorton" To: Space201@aol.com, unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:05:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if you like an artist you should promote that artist so they can make more tracks....plus it's not YOUR track, it's theirs love n plur becky From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:08:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20496 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:08:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 20481 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:08:54 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:08:54 -0000 Received: from OXnymphXO@aol.com (230) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHIUa23675 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:07:18 -0400 (EDT) From: OXnymphXO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:07:15 EDT Subject: Re: new years eve To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: OXnymphXO@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm probably gonna stay home too. all it's gonna be is amature night and complete choas! "well i don't NORMALLY shoot up heroin but since it's gonna be the year 2000......" get the picture? not the kinda sh*t i'm down for. alida From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:18:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26295 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:18:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 26151 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:18:01 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:18:01 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id OAA09847; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:17:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904282117.OAA09847@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Techno Cosmic Mass review To: silverpearl@silverpearl.com (Silver Pearl Records) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3727693F.36F6A8BD@silverpearl.com> from "Silver Pearl Records" at Apr 28, 99 01:02:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And, she is not on this forum to defend herself. It is kind of unfair to her to continue bashing her without hearing her side of things. As far as I can tell, Techno Cosmic Mass has pure intentions. No need to dis that event just becuase you personally have had bad expereinces with one person involved with it. I don't see anyone making lots of money off of these particular events... -troy > > I hope that the list realizes that this is just Linda Lowrance, the owner of JJ Newberry's in diguise. There is nothing spiritual, nothing postive, and nothing real about anything thatshe has her mits in. Please realize that no matter what propaganda you here about things at her space, no matter what other people truly believe, in the end, it all comes down to her > making money. > > It is too bad that more people cannot see through her facade...because it seems as though she has the ability to entrap many good people into her web of lies, deceit, and greed. > > Please stay away from anything on the block the reside in....1900 Telegraph and 1900 Broadway. > > Peace, > Silver Pearl > > PS...She is also responsible for the loft collapse last week that injured several of our raver friends... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:20:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28106 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:20:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 27885 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:20:09 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:20:09 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA30048; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904282119.OAA30048@mail.netwiz.net> To: Silver Pearl Records Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: ok, now you've really piqued my interest! (was Re: Techno Cosmic Mass review) In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:02:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:19:05 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >I hope that the list realizes that this is just Linda Lowrance, >the owner of JJ Newberry's in diguise. There is nothing spiritual, >nothing postive, and nothing real about anything that she has her >mits in. Please realize that no matter what propaganda you here >about things at her space, no matter what other people truly believe, >in the end, it all comes down to her making money. Well, that could be said about most things in society today. So it's really just a question of malice. Is she delivering value or is she ripping people off and conning them?? > Please stay away from anything on the block the reside in....1900 Telegraph > and 1900 Broadway Do they own the whole block? Why a whole block?? is this some kind of quarantine?? :-) Do tell. what what! > PS...She is also responsible for the loft collapse last week that injured > several of our raver friends... Ok, now I'm really interested. So is this a circle or raverdom completely outside of sfraves, or do the people involved with her just not talk about it much, or have i just not been reading sfraves carefully enough (down mailfilters, down! riiip....aaaaaaghhh!). What kind of event was this collapsing new people "rave"? Hell, and with all this drama unfolding before us, like a verdant forest of mildew, will we have any neurons left over for TV? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:22:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29586 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:22:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 29287 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:22:03 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:22:03 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA30419; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904282121.OAA30419@mail.netwiz.net> To: Eric Jones Cc: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: Re: Recall: leaving this address In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:25:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:21:16 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, here it is. By the way, my e-mail recall fee is $5.00. Thank you, Niels. -------------------- Return-Path: sfraves-owner-npm=netwiz.net@hyperreal.org Delivery-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:55:58 -0700 Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA13536 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21944 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 19:50:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 21699 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 19:49:41 -0000 Received: from onion.garlic.com (HELO windmill.garlic.com) (208.195.160.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 19:49:41 -0000 Received: from exchange1.foxracing.com (foxracing.garlic.com [208.195.165.39]) by windmill.garlic.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16152 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:49:33 -0700 Received: by exchange1.foxracing.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:25:02 -0700 Message-ID: <235B92441389D111AF030060089D231B7FB937@exchange1.foxracing.com> From: Eric Jones To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Recall: leaving this address Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:25:01 -0700 Expiry-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:24:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Eric Jones would like to recall the message, "leaving this address". -------------------- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:23:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 580 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:23:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 288 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:23:09 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:23:09 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id OAA10202; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:23:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904282123.OAA10202@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) To: Space201@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <9cc8e3fa.2458cb6c@aol.com> from "Space201@aol.com" at Apr 28, 99 04:37:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk But, who is going to get interested in DJing when you know that all you have access to are the tracks rejected by the DJ record store owners? I thought their business was selling records... If they keep hording all the good tracks to themselves, then they will find themselves without customers... Why do you think people are turning to .mp3's? Not becuase they don't want to buy the tracks... it is becuase the tracks are simply not out there... -troy > > I don't think this kid should have to request a refund on the tape, nor > should anybody at F8 be obligated to tell him what the track is called. IMO > of course! Look at it this way - Mike and Eric are running a shop selling > "their sound" and trying to DJ it at the very same time. TRUE, not putting a > track listing is somewhat disrespectful to the artists, but in F8's position, > I don't blame them for no track listing. There are those few tracks that they > will keep to themselves for sake of their careers. I've gone in the shop > before asking about a certain track on one of their tapes and got this > bullshit story, "Oh, there were only ten copies of that record ever sent to > the U.S." No, they just didn't wanna give me the damn record and I was > completely respectful for that. > > You see, where will they be a year from now with every kid that comes through > their shop spinning their sound? Washed up and back to Ben & Jerry's! Well, > not really, since they own the shop and a new label, but they are DJ's, and > they gotta watch their backs. > > You know as a DJ, you spend many hours diggin' through bins and many years > finding those certain labels and artists. And you just wanna give it away? > When you are playing a set at a party, do you let the record end, and make an > announcement as to what that track was called? "That was '??' with his latest > release entitled '?? ep' on the '??' label out of New York" > > How do you feel about trainspotters? Is there a difference? > > > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:52:28 -0700 (PDT) unclenoah > writes: > > > > > > > >no track listing?! well, i'd go down to F-8, ask what the track was, > >buy > >the vinyl, and return the tape and request a refund on it. > > > >not putting a tracklisting on your mixtape is just about the lowest > >thing a DJ can do, IMHO. it's completely disrespectful to the artists > > > >who've made the tracks and it's a big disservice to the fans who are > >actually interested in the music (like in this situation). i mean, > >how > >hard is it to look at the labels of your rekkids and write down what > >you > >spun? > > > >and it's especially odd that someone associated with a record store > >wouldn't want their fans to know what records are on a tape. > > > >sorry to spout off. lack of tracklistings is just one of my "hot > >buttons" > > > >:/ > > > > > > > >On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Jay wrote: > > > >> Haha... guess it would help =) Sorry.... _First_ song on the A > >side of the > >> tape. > >> > >> And no to the track listing, just a J card with some thanks and > >what-not... > >> > >> Love & Music, > >> -Jay > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: MooK<>< > >> To: Jay ; Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys > >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:41 AM > >> Subject: RE: Mystr-E track question.... > >> > >> > >> > which track? there is more than just one track on that side of the > >tape =P > >> > M<>< > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org > >[mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > >> > > Behalf Of Jay > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:29 AM > >> > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >> > > Subject: Mystr-E track question.... > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Does anyone know the name of the track on side A (single > >triangle) of > >> > > Mystr-E's tape, Mystery 3 ? It kicks ass and would like to pick > >it up > >> > > myself if possible. > >> > > > >> > > It goes: dum-da-dum-da-dum-da waaaaaaaaaaaaaauhhhhhggggg > >dum-da-dum-da > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Ok, the last part was a joke, but seriously =) > >> > > > >> > > Love & Music, > >> > > -Jay > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > >"Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic > >or > >death." - Casey Brackley > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > >GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now > >info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons > >714.558.7626 > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:29:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5073 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:29:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 4856 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:28:35 -0000 Received: from pohl.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.64) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:28:35 -0000 Received: from godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.42]) by pohl.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id RAA04952; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id RAA16731; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:24:28 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla1.acpub.duke.edu To: Space201@aol.com cc: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question...) In-Reply-To: <9cc8e3fa.2458cb6c@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what is this crap about not putting track listings on tapes? i'm going to completly agree with uncle noah here. any dj spinning ANY record (including his own) should always want to put track listings on his mixtapes, not just to give just due credit to the producer, but so that producer can get backing to make more of his/her records, and so that anyone can enojy his/her music. not all of us are "trainspotters". not all of us devote our time to copying other people's styles. actually, not all of us spin! i myself just collect records that i adore, ones that i always want to have (almost as memories) and eventually when i have the time to devote i'll put them together in the way I WANT TO. no dj should be so selfish as to not letr anyone know what she/he is spinning. that is a sign of paranoia. if someone copies your style, oh well. either go beat them up, or hope that everyone will recognize who pioneered that style first. much love, amber On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 Space201@aol.com wrote: > > I don't think this kid should have to request a refund on the tape, nor > should anybody at F8 be obligated to tell him what the track is called. IMO > of course! Look at it this way - Mike and Eric are running a shop selling > "their sound" and trying to DJ it at the very same time. TRUE, not putting a > track listing is somewhat disrespectful to the artists, but in F8's position, > I don't blame them for no track listing. There are those few tracks that they > will keep to themselves for sake of their careers. I've gone in the shop > before asking about a certain track on one of their tapes and got this > bullshit story, "Oh, there were only ten copies of that record ever sent to > the U.S." No, they just didn't wanna give me the damn record and I was > completely respectful for that. > > You see, where will they be a year from now with every kid that comes through > their shop spinning their sound? Washed up and back to Ben & Jerry's! Well, > not really, since they own the shop and a new label, but they are DJ's, and > they gotta watch their backs. > > You know as a DJ, you spend many hours diggin' through bins and many years > finding those certain labels and artists. And you just wanna give it away? > When you are playing a set at a party, do you let the record end, and make an > announcement as to what that track was called? "That was '??' with his latest > release entitled '?? ep' on the '??' label out of New York" > > How do you feel about trainspotters? Is there a difference? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:30:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5595 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:30:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 5194 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:29:43 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:29:43 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (8066) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQJHa18149 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:27:55 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:27:48 EDT Subject: looking for jungle..house...and hardtrance djs.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm looking for some djs that would be willing to drive up to reno for a party. this party will be within the next month or two. email me privately if interested....i will also need a demo tape so we can vote on which djs are in favor of the crew. thank you. -Samantha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:30:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6832 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:30:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6645 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:30:48 -0000 Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (207.69.200.33) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:30:48 -0000 Received: from sfsrv (user-33qsp5k.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.100.180]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07770; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <008d01be91bf$86fbc2e0$b464aec7@sfsrv> From: "Michael Bruton" To: , , Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:38:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok, preface: nothing in this email is meant to antagonize or offend anyone; i respect all parties involved... now then... >nor >should anybody at F8 be obligated to tell him what the track is called. >TRUE, not putting a >track listing is somewhat disrespectful to the artists, but in F8's position, >I don't blame them for no track listing. if they are charging for the mixtape, they are (at some level) charging for someone else's music. if they just use pieces and fragments of tracks, and make their own musical 'collage', then it's kind of like small amounts of sampling in electronic music; maybe it's technically wrong, but i wouldn't get in a snit over it, even if i was the artist. take more than a piece, though, or try and repackage it with a 1% modification (the first 10 seconds were mixed out, and last 20 seconds were in a cross-fade with the next track), and i'd get a bit irritated, i imagine. i wouldn't expect a DJ to have to name all the tracks he plays at a party; that's a bit different; there's a bit more involved in the costs of a party than the music, and it's an 'experience'. A mixtape that is all full (or relatively full) versions of songs - especially if charged for - should give credit to the artists. if this were legit on a larger scale than the local record shop, it would cause a lot of problems. If I didn't have moral qualms about it - and if it were legal - I could probably make a lot of money by having a monthly release of the top 10 tracks of a particular genre, and selling it for $4 to large distributors to throw in WalMart, Virgin, Sam Goody and the like; at a good markup, they could still sell a huge volume. imagine a mixtape (or CD) of the Billboard Top 20 singles each month, for $6 or $7? a LOT of full-length albums would probably go unbought... not albums i'd ever buy, but you get my drift... >There are those few tracks that they >will keep to themselves for sake of their careers. >You see, where will they be a year from now with every kid that comes through >their shop spinning their sound? Washed up and back to Ben & Jerry's! I hope they don't look at it that way, and i hope they try to 'stay fresh'. I personally do not enjoy hearing the same tracks over and over at parties; to me, a good DJ always has something new, something different... sure, i love old-skool sets as much as the next guy, but not every single week for years ad nauseum... variety is the spice of life. Now, some of my most amazing moments were when - after hours of new, amazing, full-on trance - the dj/shaman decided to cut through the chaos with one strong, open chord, and proceed straight into beautiful, early melodies; the kind of thing that makes you freeze, stop in place, feel your heart open up, get teary-eyed, and scream "Fluffy!" .... well, you get my drift. when it works, it sure works. but not for every show. and not every show the same. if someone else copied their whole repertoire, i would hope that: a) people would quickly get bored with that someone else, as they already know all those tracks, and b) the DJs would smile, hit the nearest record bins (or take another off-continent excursion), and come back with sets to blow people away anew... which, from what some people have told me, the DJ's in question *have* done... >You know as a DJ, you spend many hours diggin' through bins and many years >finding those certain labels and artists. And you just wanna give it away? this strikes me the same as an argument i am always involved in; i work for a Knowledge Management company, and people constantly attack our technology as 'stealing' the intellectual wealth of 'long time' employees, and dropping their value or obsoleting them. the response - which is harsh, but true - is that there is a finite value to static knowledge, and that value does and should degrade with time. the real value is in novelty - new discovery, new solution, new technique - and it is THOSE skills that the real experts have, the ability to *learn*. If you have only have a certain bag of tricks, and never want to update that bag, that's your perogative - but don't expect to stay on the cutting edge; *that* surface is constantly fluid.... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:33:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8278 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:33:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 7910 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:32:36 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:32:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428212607.116.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.3.197] by attach1; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:26:07 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:26:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: NRR - o.k., so everybody has acen's trak, but.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk o.k. so all you old-skoolers have "just close your eyes", but does any one know whose voice acen sampled and sped up? and if you do then i got a bonus stumper for you. just having fun, jonas From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:34:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9525 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:34:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 9071 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:33:53 -0000 Received: from f74.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.180) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:33:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 63288 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 21:34:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428213416.63287.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.227.43.11 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:34:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.227.43.11] From: "Michelle Batlin" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: --Testing Your Knowledge-- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:34:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Gonna try and make it, hopefully I'll have enough energy after this weekend! Really got into some Jungle at this small party this weekend. Gotta be good, just never heard of any of the dj's... then again, there's always a first. >From: Jess ica >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: <> >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:48:33 -0700 (PDT) > >Ok, will the true junglists please come forth... > >Who's going to the Kung Fu Knowledge Tour tonight? >I've been waiting my sickass all weekend for this, even popped a few >penicillins, some spoonfulls of royal jelly, and Im ready to rumble, >feel the ground shake, drink a beer, and dance. > >whos down? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:37:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13021 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:37:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 12990 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:37:01 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:37:01 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA29928; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:36:55 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: becky thorton cc: Space201@aol.com, unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) In-Reply-To: <19990428210506.30819.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, becky thorton wrote: > if you like an artist you should promote that artist > so they can make more tracks....plus it's not YOUR track, it's theirs > the post above (and uncle noah's post) addresses this unwritten relationship between djs & producers: djs make and sell music/recordings using producers work without clearing copyrights. producers in turn get promotion for their work. it's a two-way street, but not so if the tracks are not listed - dj leaps all the benefit from the work of producer without reciprocation. i personally am not so passionate about this issue as to go nonlinear about it, though .... so carry on. 8-) b- ___ my sig is getting tiresome From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:42:39 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17946 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:42:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 17514 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:42:16 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:42:16 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA01467; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: Joaqman cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR - o.k., so everybody has acen's trak, but.... In-Reply-To: <19990428212607.116.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Joaqman wrote: > > o.k. so all you old-skoolers have "just close your > eyes", but does any one know whose voice acen sampled > and sped up? > > and if you do then i got a bonus stumper for you. > > just having fun, > jonas > I TOLD YOU: it's the chipmunk (don't know which one). now, what do i win? ;-) (ight, i passed my quota today) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 21:48:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23739 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 21:48:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 23451 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 21:47:51 -0000 Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net (HELO pimout2-int.prodigy.net) (207.115.59.113) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 21:47:51 -0000 Received: from prodigy.net (SNFCB210-12.splitrock.net [209.156.149.127]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA129536; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:47:40 -0400 Message-ID: <37278159.23D4014C@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:44:58 -0700 From: JOELANZON Reply-To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Space201@aol.com CC: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) References: <9cc8e3fa.2458cb6c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In my opinion as a DJ I really don't care if people know what I spin or look for tracks that I play. I must admit there once was a time in my early years that I (and everyone else, '91-93, was it a fad?) did cover labels and didn't include track listings but now it really doesn't matter to me. Good tracks does definately play a role in a good 'sounding' dj but I believe in the old ways that a DJs skill in mixing and moving the crowd will take him to the top more than the records he's playing. There are thousands upon thousands of records out right now and there is some records that are hard to find, whether they be old school out of print, rare classics, promo's, whatever. But why on a tape/cd hide the artists name? If you have it and its hard to find, or it took you months to get, or you payed major money for it, who's to say that the next DJ will take the effort or cash or the time to search it out? And if they do and they do happen to find it, cool!, one more DJ has some good tunes. As I said before, it all comes down to mixing and programming skill in the long. And I give much props to the DJs that aren't selfish and help others out with hard to find classics which there's a few of these DJs on this list. About M & M, I feel as record store owners they have an obligation to there customers to educate in there style or genre of music they're trying to push. This actually goes for any record store owner/worker. You are there to sell music and educate. If not GIVE ME THE JOB! : D DJs in high places such as M & M are leaders in the sound that they are playing, they can either lead on with new styles and incredible mixing skill that no one can touch, or stand where they're at and let the next leaders move on up. People must realize that there is always going to be somebody bigger, somebody better, somebody more incredible than you, no matter who you are. If its that newbie kid in the store bugging you for the name of that unknown tune then so be it. Don't hate , educate. The ones that are truly into it will find out the records name anyway. As far as trainspotters go, well the only thing I see wrong with them is they jam up the front of the turntables and just stand there. Other than that, nothings wrong with another looking at my tracks, I actually take it as a compliment. Just some thoughts -peace- Joe Lanzon P.S. - Pete Tong when playing new tracks he'll just mix them in normally, and if they go over well he will play them again later stopping all the music and playing the song from beginnning to the end and announcing the name of the tune at the end. Just an example of a Major DJ in a Major High spot doing his job well. Space201@aol.com wrote: > I don't think this kid should have to request a refund on the tape, nor > should anybody at F8 be obligated to tell him what the track is called. IMO > of course! Look at it this way - Mike and Eric are running a shop selling > "their sound" and trying to DJ it at the very same time. TRUE, not putting a > track listing is somewhat disrespectful to the artists, but in F8's position, > I don't blame them for no track listing. There are those few tracks that they > will keep to themselves for sake of their careers. I've gone in the shop > before asking about a certain track on one of their tapes and got this > bullshit story, "Oh, there were only ten copies of that record ever sent to > the U.S." No, they just didn't wanna give me the damn record and I was > completely respectful for that. > > You see, where will they be a year from now with every kid that comes through > their shop spinning their sound? Washed up and back to Ben & Jerry's! Well, > not really, since they own the shop and a new label, but they are DJ's, and > they gotta watch their backs. > > You know as a DJ, you spend many hours diggin' through bins and many years > finding those certain labels and artists. And you just wanna give it away? > When you are playing a set at a party, do you let the record end, and make an > announcement as to what that track was called? "That was '??' with his latest > release entitled '?? ep' on the '??' label out of New York" > > How do you feel about trainspotters? Is there a difference? > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:03:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2420 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:03:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 2389 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:03:06 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:03:06 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-198-208.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.208]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA24326; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <014b01be91c3$3db9f580$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "MacBunny" , Cc: , References: Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question...) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:05:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Amazing... I just want to know one track and everything is crazy. I need to point out, that I also have Mars' new tape Electric Temple.. and it does have track listings on it. The whole discussion of "M&M" this and "M&M" that, should be a moot subject... this is one tape, one out of half a dozen that doesn't have the listing. I agree totally with Unclenoah & Bunny(Mac? ;)) about upholding the non-written gentle(wo)mens agreement between artists and DJ's. As far a "biting" someones style... WHAT THE HELL!@#?! As far as I know, the producer intended for more than one person to hear the track... so does that mean that the very first person to buy the record is original, and all following purchasers are 'biting' his style ? That's BS. If I like the song, I will find it... regardless of it he puts it on his J card or not. Anways... my question still remains unanswered ;)) Love & Music, -Jay From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:07:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6491 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:07:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 6471 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:07:55 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:07:55 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (8066) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iJIFa10282; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:20:05 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:20:01 EDT Subject: Re: new years eve To: poeie@hotmail.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Reply-To: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/28/99 9:37:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, poeie@hotmail.com writes: > i had a horrible nightmare last night. i was at this massive rave on > new years eve. candy ravers, junglists, 16 year old girls in 12 inch > platform shoes... EVERYONE was there. the count down started and > suddenly i hear this *boomboomboomboomboomboomboom!* this guy wearing > a huge dr. seuss striped hat starts shooting at everyone yelling, > "the end is near!" then i hear bombs going off and people screaming > and crying and bodies falling down everywhere. :~( > > when i get off work today, i'm going to dig a hole in my backyard and > hide for cover on new years eve... > > with all the chaos erupting and everything, i'd think i'll play it > safe this december 31st... besides, it's just another night, just > another party... > > me > i'm thinking about having a very small get together. so i know i'll be safe, unless the core of the earth explodes or something like that, i'll have protection. :) ~Samantha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:08:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6947 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:08:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 6725 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:08:04 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:08:04 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (8030) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3QSTa14763 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:06:53 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <48479248.2458e07a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:06:50 EDT Subject: Re: new years eve To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk THe end is near, and it has a name.. rhymes with Armaggeddon (know what I'm saying Veanne?) I don't know what i'll be doing when the millenium socks me in the face. Somehow I didn't want to be doing the same thing I do every other weekend. And I hate new years as it is. I kind of want to take all my close friends and go out into the desert or high in the mountains and do something spectacular and bonding with them, so that when we come back to civilization and everyone is all whacked out from new years we feel like we've landed on a different planet. I don't know.. but then .. that's a strange dream that *I* had so who knows.... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:14:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11181 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:14:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 11157 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:14:32 -0000 Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:14:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428221451.740.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web120.yahoomail.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:14:51 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Compound Records before Knowledge??? To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who wants to meet up at Compound before heading over to see the Kung-Fu Knowledge Tour? I'm not sure when I'll make it there, but I'm shooting for 7ish. *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:19:09 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14400 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:19:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13973 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:18:53 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:18:53 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05456; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA13132; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:16:37 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: , Cc: , Subject: RE: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:23:57 -0700 Message-ID: <002301be91c5$cec42b20$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <37278159.23D4014C@prodigy.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk A quite tidbit concerning M&M listing their track info on their tapes. They have been doing it since some time last year. I don't have an explanation for why they didn't do it before, but I do know that they did give credit to the artists on those tapes just no track names or orders. M<>< > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of JOELANZON > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 2:45 PM > To: Space201@aol.com > Cc: unclenoa@netcom.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) > > > In my opinion as a DJ I really don't care if people know what I > spin or look for > tracks that I play. I must admit there once was a time in my > early years that I > (and everyone else, '91-93, was it a fad?) did cover labels and > didn't include > track listings but now it really doesn't matter to me. Good > tracks does definately > play a role in a good 'sounding' dj but I believe in the old > ways that a DJs > skill in mixing and moving the crowd will take him to the top > more than the > records he's playing. > > There are thousands upon thousands of records out right now and > there is some > records that are hard to find, whether they be old school out of > print, rare > classics, promo's, whatever. But why on a tape/cd hide the > artists name? If you > have it and its hard to find, or it took you months to get, or > you payed major > money for it, who's to say that the next DJ will take the effort > or cash or the > time to search it out? And if they do and they do happen to find > it, cool!, one > more DJ has some good tunes. As I said before, it all comes down > to mixing and > programming skill in the long. And I give much props to the DJs > that aren't > selfish and help others out with hard to find classics which > there's a few of > these DJs on this list. > > About M & M, I feel as record store owners they have an > obligation to there > customers to educate in there style or genre of music they're > trying to push. > This actually goes for any record store owner/worker. You are > there to sell music > and educate. If not GIVE ME THE JOB! : D > > DJs in high places such as M & M are leaders in the sound that > they are playing, > they can either lead on with new styles and incredible mixing > skill that no one > can touch, or stand where they're at and let the next leaders > move on up. People > must realize that there is always going to be somebody bigger, > somebody better, > somebody more incredible than you, no matter who you are. If its > that newbie kid > in the store bugging you for the name of that unknown tune then > so be it. Don't > hate , educate. The ones that are truly into it will find out > the records name > anyway. > > As far as trainspotters go, well the only thing I see wrong with > them is they jam > up the front of the turntables and just stand there. Other than > that, nothings > wrong with another looking at my tracks, I actually take it as a > compliment. > > Just some thoughts > > -peace- Joe Lanzon > > P.S. - Pete Tong when playing new tracks he'll just mix them in > normally, and if > they go over well he will play them again later stopping all the > music and playing > the song from beginnning to the end and announcing the name of > the tune at the > end. Just an example of a Major DJ in a Major High spot doing his > job well. > > Space201@aol.com wrote: > > > I don't think this kid should have to request a refund on the tape, nor > > should anybody at F8 be obligated to tell him what the track is > called. IMO > > of course! Look at it this way - Mike and Eric are running a > shop selling > > "their sound" and trying to DJ it at the very same time. TRUE, > not putting a > > track listing is somewhat disrespectful to the artists, but in > F8's position, > > I don't blame them for no track listing. There are those few > tracks that they > > will keep to themselves for sake of their careers. I've gone in the shop > > before asking about a certain track on one of their tapes and got this > > bullshit story, "Oh, there were only ten copies of that record > ever sent to > > the U.S." No, they just didn't wanna give me the damn record and I was > > completely respectful for that. > > > > You see, where will they be a year from now with every kid that > comes through > > their shop spinning their sound? Washed up and back to Ben & > Jerry's! Well, > > not really, since they own the shop and a new label, but they > are DJ's, and > > they gotta watch their backs. > > > > You know as a DJ, you spend many hours diggin' through bins and > many years > > finding those certain labels and artists. And you just wanna > give it away? > > When you are playing a set at a party, do you let the record > end, and make an > > announcement as to what that track was called? "That was '??' > with his latest > > release entitled '?? ep' on the '??' label out of New York" > > > > How do you feel about trainspotters? Is there a difference? > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:24:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18253 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:24:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 18229 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:24:16 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:24:16 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12954; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:25:27 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990428202348.22539.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:26:08 -0700 To: "Wil Hanno" From: terry estioko Subject: Re: new years eve Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >i'm going to be partying up in the hills near santa cruz that night > >every be careful and make sure that you're not driving a car at >12:00am because due to an onboard maintenace computer the car might >shut off because it'll think it hasn't been serviced in 100 years >when 2000 comes. > >particularly some models of honda's have this problem. But not if you have a Y2K compliant battery. These batteries communicate with the car's computer and update it with Y2K compliant info. Call your local auto parts store for more info. -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:25:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19507 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:25:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 19154 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:25:35 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:25:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428223033.20475.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:30:33 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:30:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Compound Records before Knowledge??? To: Patrick Seaton , SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I would love to but I am in class taking my biology test until 7:30, so i wont make it until way after that. That sux. damn test. C-everone there-no curfew for me tonight ;p Jessica --- Patrick Seaton wrote: > Who wants to meet up at Compound before heading over > to see the > Kung-Fu Knowledge Tour? I'm not sure when I'll make > it there, but I'm > shooting for 7ish. > > *HUGZ* > pat > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:29:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21334 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:29:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 21316 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:29:10 -0000 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.126) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:29:10 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id PAA29116; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:29:05 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) To: Space201@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <9cc8e3fa.2458cb6c@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 Space201@aol.com wrote: > I don't think this kid should have to request a refund on the tape, nor > should anybody at F8 be obligated to tell him what the track is called. IMO > of course! Look at it this way - Mike and Eric are running a shop selling > "their sound" and trying to DJ it at the very same time. if they want to have "their sound" then why don't they buy "their synthesizers" and "their sequencers" and make the music themselves instead of stealing music form other people and not giving credit? that argument just doesn't hold up. Do you think that Keoki, John Kelley, Jim Hopkins, Jesse Brooks or any of the other "big" DJs who have put out recording with full tracklistings have lost "their sound"? have i lost "my sound" by putting full tracklistings on my tapes? the answer is a resounding *NO*. > TRUE, not putting a > track listing is somewhat disrespectful to the artists, but in F8's position, > I don't blame them for no track listing. somewhat disrespectful?!? putting someone else's creative work, their blood sweat and tears onto a sound recording and then selling it with your name on it and no acknowledgement of their efforts is "somewhat" disrespectful? try this: go buy a Corvette and cover up all the names and insignias on it with your name and then go sell it as your own unique car and see what GM thinks about it. i think they'll find it slightly more than "somewhat disrespectful". > I've gone in the shop > before asking about a certain track on one of their tapes and got this > bullshit story, "Oh, there were only ten copies of that record ever sent to > the U.S." No, they just didn't wanna give me the damn record and I was > completely respectful for that. > if they don't want to sell you the record, that's one thing. that's actually bad business. you should want to sell the products that your store sells (seems simple, don't it?). but if there are limited copies or they just can't get the record, then, hey, it's a tough record to get and you should try other resources. that's still no excuse for witholding the artist and track names. > You see, where will they be a year from now with every kid that comes through > their shop spinning their sound? um... still drawing huge crowds and spinning great records that everyone loves? > they gotta watch their backs. > what backs? since when is ignoring the efforts of artists who's music is creatings "their sound" watching anyone's back? > You know as a DJ, you spend many hours diggin' through bins and many years > finding those certain labels and artists. And you just wanna give it away? yep. that's our job as Disk Jockeys. we dig through and find the best music we can abd present it to the audience. it is our job to put the work of those artists out there so that you can hear them. > When you are playing a set at a party, do you let the record end, and make an > announcement as to what that track was called? "That was '??' with his latest > release entitled '?? ep' on the '??' label out of New York" > very often people will come up and ask me what a track is. i will hand them the vinyl, as it is often too loud to just tell them. additionally, i often keep a pad of paper with me and write down the tracks the i've played and when folks ask, i'll hand them the piece of peper. another thing i'll do is come up with a new set and a new mixtape for a party, and i'll give out copies of the mixtape, with a complete tracklisting so that when folks leave the party, they've got the music and the info with them. > How do you feel about trainspotters? Is there a difference? > i love trainspotters! that's what it's all about! i wish more people would care enough about the music and the artists who make it to come up and ask! every DJ is a trainspotter. every musician is a trainspotter. it's the only way that we can learn and grow and share this wonderful music. i know many recording artists who feel *very* strongly about getting recognition for their works and have stated publicly that they will pursue legal action against folks who try sell their tracks without proper acknowledgement. i think it's horrible that the "DJ culture" is so disrepectful in general that these hard-working artists have to make those kinds of threats. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:33:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25486 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:33:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 25395 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:33:19 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:33:19 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA16615; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:33:12 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: terry estioko cc: Wil Hanno , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: new years eve In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, terry estioko wrote: > >i'm going to be partying up in the hills near santa cruz that night > > > >every be careful and make sure that you're not driving a car at > >12:00am because due to an onboard maintenace computer the car might > >shut off because it'll think it hasn't been serviced in 100 years > >when 2000 comes. > > > >particularly some models of honda's have this problem. > > But not if you have a Y2K compliant battery. These batteries communicate > with the car's computer and update it with Y2K compliant info. Call your > local auto parts store for more info. > yea, but the recent study by mindcraft shows that only the Y2K compliant batteries based on windows 2000 SP6.66 are trule Y2K compliant. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:38:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 662 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:38:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 578 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:38:30 -0000 Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:38:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428224245.26444.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web121.yahoomail.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:42:45 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Compound Records before Knowledge??? To: Jess ica Cc: SF Ravers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I will be checking out the rec's for awhile and I think 187 will be there until nine. Besides I'm not that familar with SF to be wandering around too much. ;) *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:38:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1299 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:38:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1012 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:38:41 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:38:41 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (14422) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lMJJa19301; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:35:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <1d9fe28d.2458e734@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:35:32 EDT Subject: Re: ok, now you've really piqued my interest! (was Re: Techno Cosmic Mass rev... To: npm@mail.netwiz.net, silverpearl@silverpearl.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/28/99 2:21:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, npm@mail.netwiz.net writes: << Do they own the whole block? Why a whole block?? is this some kind of quarantine?? :-) >> Yes, She owns the hole block... It's not a safe place!!!!!!! Its very sad what happened to the lightseed crew and I for one agree with Eric completely. She tried to pull permits and was denied, and still went ahead with it after they told her NO!!! I feel very bad for what has happen to the party people! Please send warm thoughts to everyone involved with lightseed and especially Jeff! He was hurt and suffered a broken ankle! IM just glad no one died. I think Linda should be thinking about the people then the old mighty $dollar!! I told everyone that something really bad was going to happen to some of the spaces that are used! No one really cared enough to say, hey she might be right. Eric is right in saying what he did, because no matter how much some people try to ignore the truth something will always happen to make a lot of people open their eyes. I guess this is a learning experience! Sad as it may be, but we cant go on acting like its OK to break the rules and not care about the out come of what might be FATAL! I hope some space owners will learn a valuable lesson from all of this! Certain things can no longer be ignored. My comments are my own and I do have an opinion that I feel doesn't need to be question by anyone as well as put down for them! Don't hate, but open your eyes to the things you see that are wrong. Take a stand for what you believe in and let no one try to stop you from being the caring person you are! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:41:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2719 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:41:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 2709 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:41:15 -0000 Received: from web103.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:41:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428224150.14066.rocketmail@web103.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.185.131.147] by web103.yahoomail.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:41:50 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:41:50 -0700 (PDT) From: chrisP Subject: Re: new years eve To: boing , terry estioko Cc: Wil Hanno , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- boing wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, terry estioko wrote: > > > >i'm going to be partying up in the hills near santa cruz that night > > > > > >every be careful and make sure that you're not driving a car at > > >12:00am because due to an onboard maintenace computer the car might > > >shut off because it'll think it hasn't been serviced in 100 years > > >when 2000 comes. > > > > > >particularly some models of honda's have this problem. > > > > But not if you have a Y2K compliant battery. These batteries communicate > > with the car's computer and update it with Y2K compliant info. Call your > > local auto parts store for more info. > > > > yea, but the recent study by mindcraft shows that only the Y2K compliant > batteries based on windows 2000 SP6.66 are trule Y2K compliant. > Hey what a coincidence! I happen to work for the company that manufactures those batteries. Respond to this e-mail and I'll hook you up. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:42:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3534 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:42:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 3526 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:42:09 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:42:09 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (14422) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIIHa21993; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:40:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: <560de94.2458e84c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:40:12 EDT Subject: Re: new years eve To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Ravergrl27@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk IM so there with you Trice... =) I was thinking the same thing! Maybe we can get the v-man to feel the same way! That would be so much fun and a change of pace! In a message dated 4/28/99 3:08:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, TeKnODiVa@aol.com writes: << THe end is near, and it has a name.. rhymes with Armaggeddon (know what I'm saying Veanne?) I don't know what i'll be doing when the millenium socks me in the face. Somehow I didn't want to be doing the same thing I do every other weekend. And I hate new years as it is. I kind of want to take all my close friends and go out into the desert or high in the mountains and do something spectacular and bonding with them, so that when we come back to civilization and everyone is all whacked out from new years we feel like we've landed on a different planet. I don't know.. but then .. that's a strange dream that *I* had so who knows.... hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:43:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4343 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:43:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 4335 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:43:03 -0000 Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:43:03 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com (577) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVBFa14763 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:40:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: <4680d336.2458e851@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:40:17 EDT Subject: NRR: saturday march!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Candida29@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so has anyone gotten a meeting place together for this saturday's event??!! it sounds like it's going to be really fun!! what kind of dances can you do for mary jane??HMMMMM happy dances!!:) well anyway, who's all going cause i would love to get to parade with you guys!! let me know hope everyone's day is great!! half way through the week at least!! love & lollipops, candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:44:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5296 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:44:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 5286 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:44:21 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:44:21 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12995; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:45:33 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <89ac8c45.24587a65@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:46:13 -0700 To: BigM009@aol.com From: terry estioko Subject: Re: FW: BSP HAVE A NICE RAVE this fri apr 30 - update Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Tonka party? Mmmmmm, sound like my son should be there too. He could bring >his earth movers and dump trucks. Peace, M Tonka's actually a pretty massive sized sound system that resides in the LA area. It's painted yellow and black (like the trucks), and you can actually sit inside some of the cabinets. Holds up pretty good against sandstorms and getting trampled on by socal speaker worshipers. I'm still waiting for someone to paint a sound system like Legos. -terry ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:55:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11421 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:55:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 11399 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:55:41 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:55:41 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (14422) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSLIa12044 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:53:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:53:49 EDT Subject: ACID Breaks 3 To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk HEy Everyone how's it going? Well I just got home from school and I was wondering is anyone here going to Acid Breaks3 this Sat?? *Hugz Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:58:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13649 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:58:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 13580 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:58:43 -0000 Received: from mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (HELO mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net) (209.240.198.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:58:43 -0000 Received: from postoffice-262.iap.bryant.webtv.net (postoffice-262.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.237]) by mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id PAA08228; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by postoffice-262.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/po.gso.24Feb98) id PAA09930; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:58:41 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAuqZx5X+JpnFYsUKgwaS5/DilWGoCFGeA4fIp1z8H0fMvh9EpaRjPVxJM From: Psychopoohie@webtv.net (David Fontes) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:58:41 -0700 (PDT) To: Gammbino@aol.com Cc: SFraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ACID Breaks 3 Message-ID: <14772-372792A1-2441@postoffice-262.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com's message of Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:53:49 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Where da acid breaks 3? Damned im interested going there. But need a location! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 22:59:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14472 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 22:59:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 14463 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 22:59:32 -0000 Received: from hera.webcom.com (209.1.28.42) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 22:59:32 -0000 Received: from eresh.webcom.com (eresh.webcom.com [209.1.28.49]) by hera.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA25068; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:59:28 -0700 Received: from [209.245.140.244] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 33445153; Wed Apr 28 15:55 PDT 1999 Message-Id: <37279222.FCD586E@silverpearl.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:56:34 -0700 From: Silver Pearl Records X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Sheets Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Techno Cosmic Mass review References: <199904282117.OAA09847@atari.saturn5.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ask around...Lightseed, Twelve Monkeys, The City of Oakland, Warmth, Ahsem Security all have had TERRIBLE experiences with her. We decided after we did that we would continually and forever do everything in our power to see that she did not RAPE any other promoters or our scene....And, like I said in the previous message, it is too bad that good people are being abused by this woman...And...She has people on this list that promote for her, so she is represented. Peace, Silver Pearl Troy Sheets wrote: > And, she is not on this forum to defend herself. It is kind of unfair > to her to continue bashing her without hearing her side of things. > > As far as I can tell, Techno Cosmic Mass has pure intentions. No need to > dis that event just becuase you personally have had bad expereinces with > one person involved with it. I don't see anyone making lots of money > off of these particular events... > > -troy > > > > > I hope that the list realizes that this is just Linda Lowrance, the owner of JJ Newberry's in diguise. There is nothing spiritual, nothing postive, and nothing real about anything thatshe has her mits in. Please realize that no matter what propaganda you here about things at her space, no matter what other people truly believe, in the end, it all comes down to her > > making money. > > > > It is too bad that more people cannot see through her facade...because it seems as though she has the ability to entrap many good people into her web of lies, deceit, and greed. > > > > Please stay away from anything on the block the reside in....1900 Telegraph and 1900 Broadway. > > > > Peace, > > Silver Pearl > > > > PS...She is also responsible for the loft collapse last week that injured several of our raver friends... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:12:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21967 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:12:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 21794 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:12:21 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:12:21 -0000 Received: from Abbo1234@aol.com (14378) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iKVKa05227; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:50:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Abbo1234@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:50:55 EDT Subject: Re: new years eve To: poeie@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: Abbo1234@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I think I have to agree with that. There are going to be a lot of wackos this New Years Eve so I am going to play it safe. Abby From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:24:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28285 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:24:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 28272 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:23:57 -0000 Received: from mole.slip.net (HELO beaver.slip.net) (207.171.193.16) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:23:57 -0000 Received: from [209.209.15.155] (helo=ntserver.bgdesign.com) by mole.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 10cdgH-0004Zw-00 for sfraves@hyperreal.org; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:23:53 -0700 Received: by NTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:07:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mark Schumacher To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: SRR: long: a little intro to an unlurkmode raver/RE: Techno Cosm ic Mass review Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:07:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk greetings to all who breath an' understand sfraves an' the surroundin community... i been bouncin around our sweet scene here for tha past 7 or 8 years -- like lots of you -- this little scene has forged my character and opened me to some o' the most amazin experinces of my life - from toon town91 to freedom to tiny psy-trance parties to harmony - and lovin it all...quietly til now i finally got me the tech hook up -- so, well i just have a brief (ok more'n brief) comment on somethin innocent - no really! that whole thing about the techno cosmic mass -- they have been around for a few years now, happenin on and off when the spirit moves 'em, so to speak... i went to one or two back then (this is post the inaugural sf rave mass in grace cathedral -- wish i coulda made that scene -- whatta beautiful space) and they were sweet, innocent-to-me-seemin attempts at forgin a renewed theology in tha millenial age. now this matt fox character didn't come from any of our underground roots. he's IMHO a sorta funky theological character (i cant help but respect someone who got thrown outa his church for bein too radical-so ya know my (slight?) bias beforehand) who has roots in both traditional christianity and new agey trans-cultural spirituality. when i went to his event a few years ago it was held in the dinky-but-safe jerry brown cultural center (coincidentally almost directly across the street from 2-x-jax) in downtown oakland. it was small, but serviceable. and he held it there cause his college (founded like maybe 1995-6? or so) creation spirituality is located in downtown oakland. my point -- an i know i got one somewhere, lemme jus dig around in my pockets... hmm lint? no ... candy necklace from a ravah? noooo.... a little sticky, that . yuckers, been there for weeks ;p oh yeah is that the tech-o cosmical mass has roots in the downtown oakland area, so it's make sense for him to hold it there regardless of who owns the property,(they are big on community values an stuff) and mista fox, with his new-agey kindah backround might too easily get taken advantage of by an unscrupulous land-owner (fukkin capitalism! grrf) but don't blame him too much...his (or whoever is currently behind tha mass -- i think i read once that throwing it (celebrating it?) was the culminatory experience of a class they offered at the college) intentions are --like the truly cool mista troy sheets said-- mostly pure. not that they might not get trampled into paving for the path to hell.... anyhoo-- to silva pearl, I respect your intentions in protecting our community from unsafe conditions -- ya know we been truly luck that worse things haven't evah happened ... (anyone else remember acme in sf? I use to occasionally look down at the ravers on the floor below me from a little hole... and i swear that the floor i was on bounced a half foot up-n-down when it was full (which was often) --as cool as the parties were that were there, i'm still glad that place got condemned) but - nonetheless, i kinda disagree in blanket condemnin anythin that goes on on a particular piece of U.S. real estate widdout at least some healthy discussion about it before throwin em inna grave headfirst (maybe some kind soul could hook up the ravemass pholk with a better karma'd space? hmm?) that's just me tho. if you wanna enlighten me, silva pearl, i'd be curious about the LL details via private email.. my 2 or maybe 22 cents peace out mark edmund p.s. IMHO the charismatic cult link don't really apply to matt fox, rave mass, or creation spirituality -- they an authentic outfit freely explorin their rights to religious freedom -- its prolly not just about sex for them - goofy new age pholk - more power to em, i say... ya got ta love alla us phreaky phreaks! fabulous furry an every flava! p.p.s seeya @ honey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:25:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 901 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:25:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 741 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:25:41 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:25:41 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA20752 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:26:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Joaqman asks, "please read my revu" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > how many of you dj's have acen's "just > close your eyes" i didn't think so. > On Vinyl??? Wow!!! I am impressed... It took me like 3 months to find just the CD like 3 YEARS ago.... I heard somebody spin it at a party a few years back in Sac though.... That was really cool :) Gregery From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:41:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9518 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:41:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 9498 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:40:57 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:40:57 -0000 Received: from emfpc-9a (emf-55.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.146]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28740; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904282340.QAA28740@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: poeie@hotmail.com From: "Rafie" Subject: RE: new years eve CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:43:19 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm paranoid too! But I still want to do something crazy. Prolly not a rave, that will be too sweaty and gross and trash, but something more exciting than waiting in a cabin in the hills for the explosions. I don't think you need to be TOO worried though...sure, there are lots of psychotic religious fanatics out there, but ya know...it should be okay. I'd probably stay clear of Times Square though. Rafie ps- the new millenium isn't til Jan 1, 2001 On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:36:54 GMT, poeie@hotmail.com wrote... >i had a horrible nightmare last night. i was at this massive rave on >new years eve. candy ravers, junglists, 16 year old girls in 12 inch >platform shoes... EVERYONE was there. the count down started and >suddenly i hear this *boomboomboomboomboomboomboom!* this guy wearing >a huge dr. seuss striped hat starts shooting at everyone yelling, >"the end is near!" then i hear bombs going off and people screaming >and crying and bodies falling down everywhere. :~( > >when i get off work today, i'm going to dig a hole in my backyard and >hide for cover on new years eve... > >with all the chaos erupting and everything, i'd think i'll play it >safe this december 31st... besides, it's just another night, just >another party... > >me > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:44:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12405 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:44:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 12396 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:44:00 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:44:00 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (3701) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id hHYNa15892; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:41:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:41:42 EDT Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) To: unclenoa@netcom.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Space201@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/28/99 3:29:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, unclenoa@netcom.com writes: >> if they want to have "their sound" then why don't they buy "their >> synthesizers" and "their sequencers" and make the music themselves >> instead of stealing music form other people and not giving credit? that >> argument just doesn't hold up. They recently started their own label. One release so far. And how is it stealing? If these artists were that hard up for credit for their work, there would be many copyright's involved. Just so happens, there aren't. In most case, that is. Maybe I'm wrong, but a lot of rekkids I have, there are no copyright statements anywhere. >> Do you think that Keoki, John Kelley, Jim Hopkins, Jesse Brooks or any of >> the other "big" DJs who have put out recording with full tracklistings >> have lost "their sound"? have i lost "my sound" by putting full >> tracklistings on my tapes? the answer is a resounding *NO*. Why even make that argument with me? You know those *BIG* DJ's get every press release before they hit the shops weeks in advance. Those guys are world-wide. M&M barely make it out of the west coast. I made a point that M&M are running a store selling a distinctive sound AND selling it. Are you? It's a pretty unusual circumstance! In a short amount of time, those guys are going to be competing with kids for DJ slots that are buying records from them. It's already happening. > TRUE, not putting a > track listing is somewhat disrespectful to the artists, but in F8's position, > I don't blame them for no track listing. >> somewhat disrespectful?!? putting someone else's creative work, their >> blood sweat and tears onto a sound recording and then selling it with >> your name on it and no acknowledgement of their efforts is "somewhat" >> disrespectful? That is such a two-sided argument. It TOTALLY depends on the release artist. I have picked up so many rekkids that blatantly left out the artist's names. Or used a guise. ON PURPOSE. Some don't even care for the RECOGNITION. Maybe it's because they are already established, but who cares. It's a fact. >> try this: go buy a Corvette and cover up all the names and insignias on >> it with your name and then go sell it as your own unique car and see what GM >> thinks about it. i think they'll find it slightly more than "somewhat >> disrespectful". I have an idea. I'll try the experiment, if you buy me the corvette. =P > I've gone in the shop > before asking about a certain track on one of their tapes and got this > bullshit story, "Oh, there were only ten copies of that record ever sent to > the U.S." No, they just didn't wanna give me the damn record and I was > completely respectful for that. > >> if they don't want to sell you the record, that's one thing. that's >> actually bad business. you should want to sell the products that your >> store sells (seems simple, don't it?). but if there are limited copies >> or they just can't get the record, then, hey, it's a tough record to get >> and you should try other resources. that's still no excuse for >> witholding the artist and track names. another matter of opinion. When it comes to someone trying to make a career out of DJ'ing, it's dog eat dog. Maybe not every DJ would side on that, but I can name a few. > You see, where will they be a year from now with every kid that comes through > their shop spinning their sound? >> um... still drawing huge crowds and spinning great records that everyone >> loves? Maybe. Maybe not. Who the hell is to say? ??? > When you are playing a set at a party, do you let the record end, and make an > announcement as to what that track was called? "That was '??' with his latest > release entitled '?? ep' on the '??' label out of New York" > >> very often people will come up and ask me what a track is. i will hand >> them the vinyl, as it is often too loud to just tell them. additionally, >> i often keep a pad of paper with me and write down the tracks the i've >> played and when folks ask, i'll hand them the piece of peper. another >> thing i'll do is come up with a new set and a new mixtape for a party, >> and i'll give out copies of the mixtape, with a complete tracklisting so >> that when folks leave the party, they've got the music and the info with >> them. >> i love trainspotters! that's what it's all about! i wish more people >> would care enough about the music and the artists who make it to come up >> and ask! every DJ is a trainspotter. every musician is a trainspotter. >> it's the only way that we can learn and grow and share this wonderful >> music. You're a trainspotter's wet dream! I have gotten everything from an ink blacked out label, to a dirty look from the DJ. >> i know many recording artists who feel *very* strongly about getting >> recognition for their works and have stated publicly that they will >> pursue legal action against folks who try sell their tracks without >> proper acknowledgement. i think it's horrible that the "DJ culture" is >> so disrepectful in general that these hard-working artists have to make >> those kinds of threats. >> Ok, to set the record straight with you and anyone reading these posts, I do collect vinyl, although I have no tapes myself or am I planning to make a career of DJ'ing. I made this argument as to *maybe why* a DJ or F8 wouldn't track list on their tapes. So if Mars or Mystre or any other DJ doesn't want to tell me what tracks are on their tape, I won't let my panties get in a bundle over it. So before I get a thousand more e-mails as to why I am wrong in my opinion, the opinion was simply made for DJ's who don't track list. And personally, I could care less as to why they do or don't. When is it going to stop being so damn windy outside anyways? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:44:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13257 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:44:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 13237 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:44:37 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:44:37 -0000 Received: from H4RDHOUSE@aol.com (8000) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2JMQa23675; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:36:06 -0400 (EDT) From: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Message-ID: <48494f85.2458f562@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:36:02 EDT Subject: Re: ACID Breaks 3 To: Psychopoohie@webtv.net, Gammbino@aol.com CC: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: H4RDHOUSE@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk home base From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:45:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14340 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:45:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 14212 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:45:27 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:45:27 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA00568; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990428163650.00b0c3e4@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:36:57 -0700 To: "becky thorton" , Space201@aol.com, unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk quite a few tracks that i have contain samples lifted straight out of hiphop or rock or whatever. not only is this piracy, but they don't even have the good grace to credit the artist that they've burned. not that big a deal, artistic expression and all that, but they're making money off it. besides, how many times do you want to see "? - White Label" on the track list? credit where credit is due--if you're selling a tape, it's your obligation to give props to the people who are helping you make that money. i usually don't buy tracks that i hear on mixtapes, personally--i always feel like i'm just spinning the tape when i hear them. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:47:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16814 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:47:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 16741 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:47:47 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?2IzLXZNcB1f8uVDdHnmcUghSByM799Ci?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:47:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id QAA15664; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:42:46 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: KUNG-FU KNOWLEDGE TONIGHT IN SAN FRANCISCO Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk OK, this is a can't miss, cannot should not miss event. In honor of Skylar Ringland and Kemistry... eklektic, Denisty, Groundscore, and the SF Jungle Massive present: Kung-Fu Knowledge Tour In terms of the number of cities, stops on the to, number of DJ's involved, etc. this is the biggest electronic music tour ever in the United States. The lineup has been changing from location to location, and we in Northern California are really getting a fantastic one. Al Simmons (Density) One of the most creative and versatile sound purveyors in the Bay DJ Sage (Phunckateck/Eklektic) Always on hit, with the soundtrack to how the darker side lives Ezra (SDP, LA) I have never heard of this guy, but uh, heh Machete (Junglist Platoon, LA) A stalwart down South, known for his tricks and hard, moving sound 1.8.7 (Jungle Sky, NYC) Down from day 1, and one of the most consistant American producers DJ Craze (World DMC Champion) He could make your jaw drop blindfolded with a Radio Shack mixer Rob Playford (Moving Shadow, UK) the brains behind hundreds of tunes, an original junglist Bailey (Metalheadz, UK) I have seen a lot of DJ's from a lot of places. Bailey is #1. So yeah, that's the lineup. For the price, that is a better deal than you may ever seen again. For twice the price, it's a bargain. I am not shting you, in my opinion, Bailey is the best jungle DJ in the world, because of the tunes he has months before anyone else, his class on the decks, precision, feeling, I could go on and on, Bailey is incredible. Not to mention the rest of the lineup! and art by Spectr, and kung-fu mystic visuals please come check it out with us at: the DNA Lounge 375 11th Street, San Francisco 9:30pm to 3am 21+ $12 at the door 415.332.5800 x797 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:54:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20800 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:54:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 20780 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:54:29 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:54:29 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17537; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990428164552.00b0c3e4@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:45:57 -0700 To: Troy Sheets , Space201@aol.com From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) Cc: unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk start your own record store. it's like anything--if you feel you're getting shafted by the system, learn how the system works and take control. i doubt that any of these stores really lose customers on account of their self-preserving mentality. After all, how many trance specialty stores are there in San Francisco? in Berkeley? when you have a monopoly you can pretty much do whatever you want. i would imagine the house stores have to be a little more user-friendly on account of the competition. if you do set up Troy Sheets' Egalitarian Trance Outlet, let me know so i can start a tab :) ------------------------------- "i scream so much. you know what i mean. this electric stream. and my tears in league with the wires and energy and my machine." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Apr 28 23:58:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22546 invoked by uid 6000); 28 Apr 1999 23:58:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 22434 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 23:58:22 -0000 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.126) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 23:58:22 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id QAA05425; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:58:15 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) To: Space201@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 Space201@aol.com wrote: > going to be competing with kids for DJ slots that are buying records from > them. > It's already happening. it's not happening to them any more than it's happening to the folks who run Higher Source, or to Simply Jeff, Ron D. Core, Jabari Mayes or anyone else at Dr. Freecloud's Mixing Lab. > I have an idea. I'll try the experiment, if you buy me the corvette. =P > okay! :D but you have to give me a ride in it first! :D > another matter of opinion. When it comes to someone trying to make a career > out of DJ'ing, it's dog eat dog. Maybe not every DJ would side on that, but I > can name a few. > see, i think this is absolutely true. there is a "dog eat dog" mindset out there among a lot of DJs. but i think that mindset is ultimately destructive and not helpful to the DJs, the artists and therefore The Scene. a friend of mine who is an educator once said to me, "There is no competition among lighthouses." i think that DJs need to keep that in mind. > Maybe. Maybe not. Who the hell is to say? ??? > i'm willing to bet dimes to dollars that Mars and MysterE are going to still be kicking out the beats long after many of us on SFR will be. > When is it going to stop being so damn windy outside anyways? > it's windy up there too? man, i'ts blowin like crazy in SoCal as well! peace! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Anyone dressed in black you're scared of because it signifies gothic or death." - Casey Brackley ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GTA - "The Parti EP" -- Orbit Transmission 007 -- available now info: Dr. Freecloud's 949.650.0909 Abduction Producitons 714.558.7626 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 00:23:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7924 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 00:22:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 7598 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 00:22:52 -0000 Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.7) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 00:22:52 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (14409) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id lXBVa11626; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:19:07 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:19:08 EDT Subject: Re: the old wave/gamemaster To: cloud9nine@rocketmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, Macias20@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: AdidasXE7@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk gamemaster and el nino (track 6) are my fav tracks on tranceport.... fuckin tight songs matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 00:27:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9630 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 00:26:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 9602 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 00:26:55 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 00:26:55 -0000 Received: from emfpc-9a (emf-55.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.146]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA22362 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904290026.RAA22362@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Rafie" Subject: Saturday Night Fever Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:29:18 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sooooo...is anyone going to Harmony's disco party? And this has prolly been asked, but are the DJ's gonna try and spin disco and disco house, etc. records, or will it be normal music? I'll possibly go...I'll wear my "disco camouflage" (aka "camo funk") pants! Yeah!!....!!!!! Rafie *ps. AMANDA!! Email me! Neither of us are ever home!! And I don't call your house much because, um..yeah. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 00:39:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16408 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 00:39:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 16399 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 00:39:28 -0000 Received: from law2-f112.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.112) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 00:39:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 97373 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 00:40:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429004029.97372.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:40:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: KUNG-FU KNOWLEDGE TONIGHT IN SAN FRANCISCO Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:40:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk why does all the cool shit have to be 21+?!?!?!?!?!??!?! NO FAIR!!! love lia *wishing that she could go tonight* >From: Max McCauley >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com >Subject: KUNG-FU KNOWLEDGE TONIGHT IN SAN FRANCISCO >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:42:45 -0700 (PDT) > > >OK, this is a can't miss, cannot should not miss event. > >In honor of Skylar Ringland and Kemistry... >eklektic, Denisty, Groundscore, and the SF Jungle Massive present: > >Kung-Fu Knowledge Tour > > >In terms of the number of cities, stops on the to, number of DJ's >involved, etc. this is the biggest electronic music tour ever in the >United States. The lineup has been changing from location to location, >and we in Northern California are really getting a fantastic one. > >Al Simmons (Density) > One of the most creative and versatile sound purveyors in the Bay > >DJ Sage (Phunckateck/Eklektic) > Always on hit, with the soundtrack to how the darker side lives > >Ezra (SDP, LA) > I have never heard of this guy, but uh, heh > >Machete (Junglist Platoon, LA) > A stalwart down South, known for his tricks and hard, moving sound > >1.8.7 (Jungle Sky, NYC) > Down from day 1, and one of the most consistant American producers > >DJ Craze (World DMC Champion) > He could make your jaw drop blindfolded with a Radio Shack mixer > >Rob Playford (Moving Shadow, UK) > the brains behind hundreds of tunes, an original junglist > >Bailey (Metalheadz, UK) > I have seen a lot of DJ's from a lot of places. Bailey is #1. > > >So yeah, that's the lineup. For the price, that is a better deal than you >may ever seen again. For twice the price, it's a bargain. I am not >shting you, in my opinion, Bailey is the best jungle DJ in the world, >because of the tunes he has months before anyone else, his class on the >decks, precision, feeling, I could go on and on, Bailey is incredible. > >Not to mention the rest of the lineup! >and art by Spectr, and kung-fu mystic visuals > > >please come check it out with us at: > >the DNA Lounge >375 11th Street, San Francisco >9:30pm to 3am >21+ $12 at the door >415.332.5800 x797 > > >10-4, >duh, >max > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 00:41:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17663 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 00:41:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 17654 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 00:41:26 -0000 Received: from law2-f170.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.170) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 00:41:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 4867 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 00:41:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429004124.4866.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:41:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Saturday Night Fever Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:41:24 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hells yeah i'm gonna be there!!!!!!!! i'll be decked out in my silver attire. hope to see all of you there! love lia *the one and only LuSh SnOOpiE* >From: "Rafie" >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Saturday Night Fever >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:29:18 > >Sooooo...is anyone going to Harmony's disco party? > >And this has prolly been asked, but are the DJ's gonna try and spin disco >and disco house, etc. records, or will it be normal music? > >I'll possibly go...I'll wear my "disco camouflage" (aka "camo funk") pants! > >Yeah!!....!!!!! > >Rafie > >*ps. AMANDA!! Email me! Neither of us are ever home!! And I don't call your >house much because, um..yeah. > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 00:45:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19888 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 00:45:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 19784 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 00:45:53 -0000 Received: from ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com (HELO mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com) (imail@24.0.0.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 00:45:53 -0000 Received: from c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com ([24.1.87.180]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990429004547.JUCE24898.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com>; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:45:47 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Geoff Herbst" To: , , , Subject: RE: the old wave/gamemaster Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:46:25 -0700 Message-ID: <000801be91d9$b59dc8e0$b4570118@c42488-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk if you like el nino, angelli and nelson did a release before the el nino craze called "angels fly '98" and the B side is "bolivian angel" really hard to find record but really cool as well. awesome vocalists. But I don't know what they have with putting spanish vocals in the breakdowns of their pretty songs... maybe its an UK thing ;)P if you like the gamemaster track.... Matt Darey (the lost tribe) also has a another remix of it out, as well as another release of sort of the same song called "my soul" released last year on Hooj. tasty stuff back to spinning... ;)P gEoff ;) -----Original Message----- From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org] On Behalf Of AdidasXE7@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 5:19 PM To: cloud9nine@rocketmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org; Macias20@aol.com Subject: Re: the old wave/gamemaster gamemaster and el nino (track 6) are my fav tracks on tranceport.... fuckin tight songs matt From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 01:02:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25999 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 01:02:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 25985 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 01:02:42 -0000 Received: from mail.fiberia.com (208.137.248.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 01:02:42 -0000 Received: from gtsl1009.us1.ibm.net (mail.fiberia.com [208.137.248.15]) by mail.fiberia.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA04423; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904290209.TAA04423@mail.fiberia.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, nancyb@mail.ptd.net, wisej2@tiger.uofs.edu Cc: James Pushack , Francey , Chynna , Chrysallys Jennifer , Davis Daniel , albert myong , David Meza From: joshg@fiberia.com Subject: Fwd: NRR:: Prayer for those involved Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 19:09:01 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Forwarded Message: > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > From: Elizabeth Traver > Subject: NRR:: Prayer for those involved > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:19:56 -0800 > ----- > > > > To everyone that reads this: > > > > > > > > My name is Jayson Martin from Littleton, Colorado, I > > would > > > like for anyone who reads this to please write their name down. I > > would > > > like to send prayers out to my friends who were in Columbine H.S. > > I > > would > > > like > > > everyone to please say a prayer for the safety of everyone who was > > > involved > > > in this terrible tragedy. it is something that has hurt me today > > as > > well > > > as > > > my friends, I'm grateful for my safety and their safety. Please > > Forward > > > this to as many people as you can, let us all come together and > > pray > > that > > > this tragedy ends soon. Thank you. > > > > > > ***Copy this letter, add your name and forward it to as many > > people > > as you > > > know. thank you. > > > > > > > 1. Jayson L. Martin Littleton, Colorado > > > > 2. Michelle R. Evans Aurora, Colorado > > > > 3. Brooke A. Bayer Greeley and Littleton, Colorado > > > > 4. Adam B. Mutzbauer Denver, Co. > > > > 5. Brian P. Connors, Golden, CO, born in Littleton > > > > 6. Dana Kasper, Colorado Springs, CO > > > > 7. Soizic Lewicke-Frin, Colorado springs, CO > > > * 8.Beverky Yanke, Colo. Spgs. Co. > > > * 9. Charity Eilerman > > > * 10. Teri Adams, San Jose Ca. > > > * 11. Sharon Aguilera, San Jose, CA > > > 12. Lori Cornmesser, San Jose, CA > > > 13. Linda Girard, Boston, MA > > 14. Cheryl Tavares, Pelham, NH> > > 15. Mavis Tripoli, Windham,NH > > 16. Debra Ferrera, Medford, MA > > 17. Liz Walsh-Salisbury, MA > > 18. VANESSA BRADY-WRENTHAM,MA > > 19. Irma Marquez - San Jose, CA > > 20. Juanita Mota-San Jose, CA > > 21.Jennifer Sullivan-Campbell,CA > > 22. Elizabeth Traver- San Jose, CA > > 23. Joshua Green- Santa Rosa, CA > > > > > > > > > *********************************************************** * Get your FREE e-mail and FREE web site at FIBERIA * * http://www.fiberia.com * *********************************************************** From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 01:04:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27498 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 01:04:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 27471 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 01:04:46 -0000 Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (209.162.1.11) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 01:04:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 14731 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 01:04:45 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 01:04:45 -0000 Received: from omzz (organic@stk-ts2-h1-37-222.ispmodems.net [209.162.37.222]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA19266; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904290104.SAA19266@pop.thegrid.net> X-Sender: i038597@mail.thegrid.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:49:32 -0600 To: "ve anne" From: omz Subject: Re: new years eve Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990428163654.151.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk the end of the world isnt just another party.. hahahahah omz At 04:36 PM 4/28/99 +0000, you wrote: >i had a horrible nightmare last night. i was at this massive rave on >new years eve. candy ravers, junglists, 16 year old girls in 12 inch >platform shoes... EVERYONE was there. the count down started and >suddenly i hear this *boomboomboomboomboomboomboom!* this guy wearing >a huge dr. seuss striped hat starts shooting at everyone yelling, >"the end is near!" then i hear bombs going off and people screaming >and crying and bodies falling down everywhere. :~( > >when i get off work today, i'm going to dig a hole in my backyard and >hide for cover on new years eve... > >with all the chaos erupting and everything, i'd think i'll play it >safe this december 31st... besides, it's just another night, just >another party... > >me > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 01:18:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3058 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 01:18:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3045 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 01:18:11 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 01:18:11 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-139.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.139]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA04876; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990428235132.006f06fc@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:51:32 -0500 To: JOELANZON@prodigy.net From: Nuku Subject: Color Coded (was Re: Track listings,Re: Mystr-E track question....) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 02:44 PM 4/28/99 -0700, you wrote: >In my opinion as a DJ I really don't care if people know what I spin or look for >tracks that I play. I must admit there once was a time in my early years that I >(and everyone else, '91-93, was it a fad?) did cover labels and didn't include >track listings but now it really doesn't matter to me. Good tracks does definately When you said that it reminded me of that movie House Party, where Martin Lawrence played that DJ called Dragon Breath. Anyhoo Play, (the darker skinned one) picked up one of his rekkids and said, "Why you got the label covered up?" and martin said "So no one can steal my shit. See I have ma shit color coded and no one can ever steal it." "well how do you know what to play?" "I got it memorized" And all his rekkids had blue labels and red labels and white labels...anyhoo I thought it was amusing. "Why in the world would you call his mother a garden tool?" Queen of the off subject tangents, Nuku From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 02:15:57 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19261 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 02:15:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 19250 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 02:15:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 02:15:48 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 142 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:13:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3727C441.825F7EBF@hrg.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:30:26 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: TEST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, trying to see if email is back up here yet... (its been out for 2 days) john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 02:24:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23719 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 02:24:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 23711 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 02:23:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 02:23:58 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 83 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:21:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3727C62A.B386BD68@hrg.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:38:35 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: test again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk another test From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 02:28:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25351 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 02:28:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 25342 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 02:28:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 02:28:34 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 113 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:26:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3727C742.7C236027@hrg.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:43:14 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: Uhhh.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ACK, our email server (among other things) went down yesterday...so if anyone sent me anything over the last 2 days...I didnt get it. resend... thanx john r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 02:31:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26267 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 02:31:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 26252 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 02:31:22 -0000 Received: from mail.nanospace.com (qmailr@209.213.199.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 02:31:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 11786 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 02:31:19 -0000 Received: from ppp3-209-213-195-1-paloalto.nanospace.com (HELO nanospace.com) (209.213.195.1) by mail.nanospace.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 02:31:19 -0000 Message-ID: <372762AF.A0D26496@nanospace.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:35:11 +0000 From: erik Organization: nocturnal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joaqman CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR - o.k., so everybody has acen's trak, but.... References: <19990428212607.116.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Is it the Doors? Any body pickup the tekno remix version on white label with the blue sillouette of a naked chick that came out 2 weeks ago? It's got the same phrases but has a repettitive tekno track behind it. And the other side slams with an oldskool progressive breakbeat! Joaqman wrote: > o.k. so all you old-skoolers have "just close your > eyes", but does any one know whose voice acen sampled > and sped up? > > and if you do then i got a bonus stumper for you. > > just having fun, > jonas From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 03:30:07 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17686 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 03:30:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 17674 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 03:30:02 -0000 Received: from law2-f38.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.38) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 03:30:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 26192 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 03:29:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429032935.26191.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.149.167.15 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:29:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.149.167.15] From: "didu hearthat" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: everybody was kung fu ravin! Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:29:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk what a cheese puff i am. yeahhh! dude, it's tonight. i've gotta leave my house! i'm all late and stuff reading what you all have to say. sheeesh. it's cool to see so many people coming out. there's been a lot of coming together on this one, i can't wait to report tomorrow. :D by the way, please come up and say howdy if i haven't met ya, say something like codeword: macgyver...codeword: sector 7G (where homie works)...codeword: nice red wig ya got on shida! :D hee hee. peace and love, rashida (mc angel) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 03:35:01 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20061 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 03:34:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 19930 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 03:34:56 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 03:34:56 -0000 Received: from Juju0322@aol.com (7987) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vPBLa05746 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:31:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Juju0322@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:31:14 EDT Subject: Toy Monkey With Cymbals... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk does anyone have one or a picture of one, or where on the net where i can find a picture of one, or anything pertaining to one, i need one or a picture of one...thank you very much -Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 03:59:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 767 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 03:59:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 758 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 03:59:36 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 03:59:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429035752.6122.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [63.11.221.182] by web4; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:57:52 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:57:52 -0700 (PDT) From: pj fuzzy Subject: Re: new years eve To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Im so exited myself, the messiah wannabe, earth mama, woa nellie and bill are jaunting off to thailand for the y2k celebration. hopefully we'll be dancing naked at a real goa trance full moon party on a beach as we usher in the new millenium. Anyone else headed that way??? pjf "prettymuch jonesin for fun" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 04:04:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3830 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 04:04:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 3819 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 04:04:46 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 04:04:46 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9CHVBSX; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:04:44 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:08:14 -0700 Subject: ride to vorg? Message-ID: <19990428.210818.-209721.4.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 9-11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey my name is Theresa and i'm a very nice person who is too poor to buy a car, so every so often I call on the kindness of strangers to get me up to a party. If anyone in the san jo area is going to vorg friday and could possibly fit me in the car, please reply. I am supposed to be helping Issac and KJ (tha wonderful childern of the sun) with their booth, but I can't head up there with them cause I don't get off work until 8. So by helping me out you are also helping them. Anyways, I can kick down gas buds and love. Page me 408-229-5992, or call me at 258-6025 if you can help me out of give my info to anyone you know who can. Thanks in advance. Peace, Theresa or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 04:04:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4015 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 04:04:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 3883 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 04:04:50 -0000 Received: from m15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 04:04:50 -0000 Received: (from dadope@juno.com) by m15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9CHVBPP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:04:44 EDT To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:59:57 -0700 Subject: Re: Saturday Night Fever Message-ID: <19990428.210817.-209721.2.DaDope@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-7,9-29 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: dadope@juno.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah I will definitely be there in this dope silver/gray spandex tube dress with raindrops on it, big ass shoes, and of course my crazy pink hair. I personally hope to hear some disco. Ring My Bell would be a request. Peace, Theresa On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:29:18 "Rafie" writes: >Sooooo...is anyone going to Harmony's disco party? > >And this has prolly been asked, but are the DJ's gonna try and spin >disco >and disco house, etc. records, or will it be normal music? > >I'll possibly go...I'll wear my "disco camouflage" (aka "camo funk") >pants! > >Yeah!!....!!!!! > >Rafie > >*ps. AMANDA!! Email me! Neither of us are ever home!! And I don't call >your >house much because, um..yeah. > > > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 04:08:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5525 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 04:08:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 5515 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 04:08:23 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 04:08:23 -0000 Received: from Juju0322@aol.com (3704) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vVWKa16724 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:06:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Juju0322@aol.com Message-ID: <66dd298c.245934d2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:06:42 EDT Subject: Telebubby Fun Land To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.newgrounds.com/tubby/index.html this is hella funny if you dont like your stereotypical teletubbie stuff go here funny (peverted, drinking, and drug) games and skits for the whole family to enjoy -Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 04:51:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22542 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 04:51:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 22461 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 04:51:32 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 04:51:32 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (14394) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDWWa10316 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:50:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <60f0ef1.24593f0a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:50:18 EDT Subject: HElp on Finding Black Lights To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Reply-To: Gammbino@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone!! it's me again Kent..So how are all of you?¿ Now for my question I was wondering do any of you know on where to get black lights. Ones taht are cheap or up for donation. Cause my mom wanted me to see on where to get some fro My schools "SOBER" Grad night thing the theme is something with Outer Space...Well thats all of and if there are any out for donations please let me know thanks in advance. PLUR ~Kent Ps:§ee some of you that are going to ACID Breaks Sat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 05:07:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29884 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 05:07:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 29858 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 05:07:46 -0000 Received: from web601.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.68.165) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 05:07:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429050615.12717.rocketmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.113.171.98] by web601.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:06:15 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:06:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Ryan Warren Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=95=95=95?= Hi! =?iso-8859-1?Q?=95=95=95?= This Friday the 30th!!! bsp To: vitaly@alldigitalclub.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just like to let u all know that Justin Hale will be spinning at the party Friday as well. Take care All Peace Ryan Vorg --- Vitaly Golomb wrote: > Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > This Friday the 30th @ a special new SF location, > 9pm - 4am (maybe till > 6 if the owner likes the party) > > 2 rooms > Stellar Lineup- > > JERRY BONHAM (Spundae) > MARS (Frequency 8) > MYSTRE (Frequency 8) > THOMAS TROUBLE (T&J Factory, VORG Resident) > DJ D (T&J Factory, VORG Resident) > DYLOOT (Skills, MHZ, Happy Kids) > ATOMIC DJ (VORG, BASS Records) > ERIK BROWN (Rebirth, Harmonics) > RYAN WILBER (NBC, Harmonics, VORG Resident) > SUPREME-C (VORG Resident) > ALIAS (?) > > There will be water bottles and smoothies for sale, > and free fruit > courtesy of Children of the Sun. > > There is a Hotel close to the location and we are > talking to the owner > to see if our party kids can get a discount with a > ticket stub or wrist > braslet, more info on that on the info line > 415.750.3100. There is also > a Denny's style 24 hour restaurant right there as > well. > > Hope everybody's week is going well, please buy > pre-sales early they are > going fast (T&J, F-8 Sold Out, Solid Grooves Close). > See you there, :-) > :-) :-) > > Take care, we love you all (well, almost all) > Vitaly VORG > > PS. REMEMBER THIS IS JUST A PRE-PARTY FOR "VORG" MAY > 8TH. BRING "HI" > TICKET STUBS TO THE PARTY TO GET A SPECIAL PRESENT > FROM US. > > PPS. CALL THE INFO LINE FOR UPDATED INFO > 415.750.3100 >
Hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This Friday the 30th @ a special new SF location, 9pm - 4am (maybe till 6 if the owner likes the party)

2 rooms
Stellar Lineup-

JERRY BONHAM (Spundae)
MARS (Frequency 8)
MYSTRE (Frequency 8)
THOMAS TROUBLE (T&J Factory, VORG Resident)
DJ D (T&J Factory, VORG Resident)
DYLOOT (Skills, MHZ, Happy Kids)
ATOMIC DJ (VORG, BASS Records)
ERIK BROWN (Rebirth, Harmonics)
RYAN WILBER (NBC, Harmonics, VORG Resident)
SUPREME-C (VORG Resident)
ALIAS (?)

There will be water bottles and smoothies for sale, and free fruit courtesy of Children of the Sun.

There is a Hotel close to the location and we are talking to the owner to see if our party kids can get a discount with a ticket stub or wrist braslet, more info on that on the info line 415.750.3100.  There is also a Denny's style 24 hour restaurant right there as well.

Hope everybody's week is going well, please buy pre-sales early they are going fast (T&J, F-8 Sold Out, Solid Grooves Close).  See you there, :-) :-) :-)

Take care, we love you all (well, almost all)
Vitaly VORG

PS. REMEMBER THIS IS JUST A PRE-PARTY FOR "VORG" MAY 8TH. BRING "HI" TICKET STUBS TO THE PARTY TO GET A SPECIAL PRESENT FROM US.

PPS. CALL THE INFO LINE FOR UPDATED INFO 415.750.3100 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 05:31:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7157 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 05:31:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 7126 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 05:31:24 -0000 Received: from law2-f97.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.97) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 05:31:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 58480 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 05:30:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429053057.58479.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.106.133 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:30:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.106.133] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: Juju0322@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Telebubby Fun Land Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:30:57 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk that shit is sooo nasty! heeheehee.... i laughed so hard i cried. oh my god!!!!! love lia >From: Juju0322@aol.com >Reply-To: Juju0322@aol.com >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Telebubby Fun Land >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:06:42 EDT > >http://www.newgrounds.com/tubby/index.html > >this is hella funny >if you dont like your stereotypical teletubbie stuff go here >funny (peverted, drinking, and drug) games and skits for the whole family to >enjoy >-Stephanie Marie- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 05:35:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8883 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 05:35:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 8865 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 05:35:35 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 05:35:35 -0000 Received: from GParry1925@aol.com (304) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHNEa05751 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:35:04 -0400 (EDT) From: GParry1925@aol.com Message-ID: <2a6cf6e3.24594987@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:35:03 EDT Subject: NRR: Black lights for cars question To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.6 for Mac Reply-To: GParry1925@aol.com Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering if anyone could tell me where to find black light bulbs for the interior overhead lights in your car. I heard about these from a friend. Maybe they were just black filters over the normal bulbs? Anyone know? Thanks Owen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 05:56:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14022 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 05:56:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 14005 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 05:56:14 -0000 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (17.254.0.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 05:56:14 -0000 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA50336 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:50:04 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (scv2.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (mailgate1.apple.com- SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:49:59 -0700 Received: from [17.201.22.70] (roseal.apple.com [17.201.22.70]) by scv2.apple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA34354 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:49:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199904290549.WAA34354@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:49:57 -0700 Subject: Re: HElp on Finding Black Lights From: "Alex Rosenberg" To: sfraves MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > Now for my > question I was wondering do any of you know on where to get black lights. Home Depot. +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Alexander M. Rosenberg | | Nobody cares what I say. Remove the underscore to mail me. | From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 06:29:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25082 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 06:29:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 25073 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 06:29:21 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 06:29:21 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA27292 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:29:19 -0700 Message-ID: <002f01be9209$d5824d40$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Connection?? Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:30:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Just an observation... the HHC and Brain Damage thread are going at the same time?? Now I like HHC in (very) small doses :) and detest Brain Damage in general as much as the next person, but I just thought somebody would get a kick out of this... Peace, Alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 06:30:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25836 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 06:30:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 25816 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 06:30:26 -0000 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (140.142.32.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 06:30:26 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA29179 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:30:25 -0700 Message-ID: <003701be9209$fc5d81a0$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: SORRY!! Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:31:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wrong list wrong list... please delete last message!! sorry sorry!!!! alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 06:49:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1919 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 06:49:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 1911 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 06:49:21 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 06:49:21 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com (4419) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGQHa14462; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:48:43 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <557afdb6.24595aca@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:48:42 EDT Subject: Re: ACID Breaks 3 To: Gammbino@aol.com, SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hell Yeah SATURDAY Breaks is gonna be tight From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 07:37:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12767 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 07:37:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 12754 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 07:37:44 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 07:37:44 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (7986) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSFUa10392 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:36:36 EDT Subject: Acid Breaks To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, you really need to be heavily trippin' on acid to actually go to Acid Breaks 3. Who in their right freakin minds would like to hear all that organized noise that idiots label "jungle" I mean, I guess the name is pretty accurate, it sounds like a bunch of monkeys banging on cans with coconuts. What's up with the bboy lounge too, we all know that there won't be any bboys up in that place, just a bunch og ghettofied wannabe car show going whack ass breakers posing against the wall intermingled with a bunch of lil' girls trying to hit off a sample. What the hell are breakbeats ? and puhleez, Frank Nitty is a donut...or is that ."frank donut is a nitty?" Hmmm....either way, i'll be spending my time doing productive things while you lil kiddies join the cult. I'll be painting my room and refinishing my cabinets and making sugar dough peonies the martha stewart living way. the pathetic broke ass bithing poser bboibreks (P.S. in case you haven't figured it out by now, I was kidding.) 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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE91D8.60DE56E0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 07:56:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19775 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 07:56:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 19761 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 07:56:05 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 07:56:05 -0000 Received: from MIB271@aol.com (4419) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDBLa11771 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:55:24 -0400 (EDT) From: MIB271@aol.com Message-ID: <29c3e4b6.24596a6c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:55:24 EDT Subject: SMILE.......SOMEONE SAYS U NEED A PICK ME UP To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SMILE.....SOMEONE SAYS U NEED A PICK ME UP From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 08:06:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21991 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 08:06:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 21981 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 08:06:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.geocities.com (HELO geocities.com) (209.1.224.29) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 08:06:56 -0000 Received: from geocities.com (sji-ca1-65.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.65]) by geocities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01687; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3728130C.C452013D@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:06:36 -0700 From: Paul*E*Wog X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Queen of Scots CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Connection?? References: <002f01be9209$d5824d40$a01a5f80@alcatraz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What the hell does HHC stand for? =Paul*E*Wog Queen of Scots wrote: > > Just an observation... the HHC and Brain Damage thread are going at the same > time?? > Now I like HHC in (very) small doses :) and detest Brain Damage in general > as much as the next person, but I just thought somebody would get a kick out > of this... > > Peace, > Alexis > > Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm > -------------------------------------------- > Whatever happened to the MC > Times done changed for the MC > Every woman and man wanna MC > But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. > -=- De La Sol From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 08:48:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4896 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 08:48:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 4873 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 08:48:50 -0000 Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.120.123) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 08:48:50 -0000 Received: from [209.179.158.22] (pool022-cvx.ds55-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.158.22]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA14876 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:48:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: radley@mail.elemental.nu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:49:06 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Radley Marx Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ugh! I think my brain just popped. blood everywhere! this is WAY too silly. are you REALLY serious? -r BTW: please don't respond. It's a mess here. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 10:11:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12346 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 10:11:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 12338 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 10:11:10 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 10:11:10 -0000 Received: from GIANNI3333@aol.com (48) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vUCGa17103 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:10:28 -0400 (EDT) From: GIANNI3333@aol.com Message-ID: <3d35f992.24598a13@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:10:27 EDT Subject: *****DISCO BISCUITS****** To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, GIANNI here just wanted to clear a couple things up about DISCO BISCUITS It's a "theme" party and the theme is silver. Our goal is to get everyone to participate in this theme, and you can bet that the decorations are going to be GREAT!!! As for the music all the DJ's are going to be playing their own specific style. I personally can't wait. This is going to bring a whole new element back to a party. Where all of the people who attend are going to be decorations themselves. We are also going to give a free glowstick to everyone that is dressed in the "silver" theme, and at 1:30 we're going to crown the silver disco king & queen and they'll each get a $50 gift certificate for Harmonics. If you have any more questions you can call Harmonics at 707 571-8747 Thanks and take care. GIANNI, From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 11:02:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23914 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 11:01:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 23905 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 11:01:56 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?IzXG+KckhM3uXJjVQyjUuWUUlZwzwIls?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 11:01:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id EAA08594; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 04:01:55 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 04:01:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com Subject: kung woo hoo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Make no mistake, there was not a frown to be seen inside the Kung Fu Knowledge Tour tonight. Wicked performances all around, nuf shouts to the peacefully resting... tubs of cold celebrity beers, star eyes breaking the law. w00 hah. nuf sed 10-4, duh, max From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 14:05:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8751 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 14:05:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 8739 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 14:05:38 -0000 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@206.80.6.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 14:05:38 -0000 Received: from [206.169.227.194] (libya-194.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.194]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15671; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:05:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: deepfog@mail.hooked.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:27:27 -0700 To: SFRavEs Mailing List From: Deepfog Subject: (nrr) Quote of the Day (Thu) Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this is a requote. WHEN WE ASK SOMEONE TO CHANGE, WE ARE ASKING THEM TO LIE TO US! ***Deepfog*** you may now retake control of your computer screen mailto:deepfog@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~deepfog +510-805-1415 vox life's a breeze and then you gotta fly... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 14:32:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21679 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 14:32:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 21593 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 14:32:03 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 14:32:03 -0000 Received: from AdidasXE7@aol.com (14447) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7RLOa21749; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:30:27 -0400 (EDT) From: AdidasXE7@aol.com Message-ID: <6c09da0f.2459c700@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:30:24 EDT Subject: Re: Connection?? To: goodvibe@geocities.com, awallace@u.washington.edu CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk im guessin happy hardcore From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 15:01:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8686 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 15:01:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 8671 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 15:01:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tides3.tides) (198.94.2.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 15:01:47 -0000 Received: by TIDES3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:08:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mark Hellar To: raves Subject: Kung Fu Knowledge Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:08:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk =A0=A0=A0 Was HeI_I_a Baddasss!=A0 Killer people, killer beats, cold beer.............Rock On! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 15:23:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19492 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 15:23:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 19465 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 15:22:57 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 15:22:57 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8037) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGADa05684 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:22:10 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <36d29571.2459d322@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:22:10 EDT Subject: Requesting info on the Honey Party? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have the location, time, and line up for the Honey Party? Bob-bee if your out there. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 16:12:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17077 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 16:12:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 17069 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 16:12:21 -0000 Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.193) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 16:12:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429161321.26565.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web125.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:13:21 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:13:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: kung woo hoo To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well there was one brief frown...when I looked at my watch and thought, "Gee, I have to be at work in 4.5 hours and I still have to drive back to Monterey." :( But then the music grabbed me again and I was happy again. :) Oh yea, also when the bartender took so long to take my order (all I wanted was water) that was the same time 187 started to toss out some records to the crowd. RIGHT WHERE I WOULD HAVE BEEN STANDING IF I HAD MY WATER!!!!! The bartender was put on my "Not happy with" list. ;) Other than those two minor things I was grinning from ear to ear. If there are any Djs type out there that are interrested, The New York City Track 187 played will be out by the end of summer. =D For those that haven't heard it yet, it's gooood. I didn't see anyone from the list. I think. There was a few that I thought might be but never got up the nerve to go up to them and go, "Hey, Are you a Raver?" heehee. Anyhoo, I was the one with the Blue/Gold Adidas Jacket around my waist and the green shirt with the the sleeves rolled up. For those that couldn't go...You have a second chance in may; Formula will have Soul Slinger and 187. See ya there. ;) *HUGZ* pat --- Max McCauley wrote: > > Make no mistake, there was not a frown to be seen > inside the Kung Fu > Knowledge Tour tonight. > > Wicked performances all around, nuf shouts to the > peacefully resting... > > tubs of cold celebrity beers, star eyes breaking the > law. > > > w00 hah. > > nuf sed > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 16:20:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22092 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 16:20:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 22081 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 16:20:45 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 16:20:45 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (527) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vTPWa16060 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:19:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: <2c70bd41.2459e0ac@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:19:56 EDT Subject: Re: Kung Fu Knowledge To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sonofaB-I-Itch.... i really really really really really really hope that someone videotaped this event. see i hate being the sober one and under 21. all i want to do is see the dopest talent and the biggest names in jungle and i cant because of this fuckin 21 and up law. man i hate america for this. i dont want to drink and i will never drink ever in my life. well next year i wont be complaining but this year and the years before i will be talkin my ass off til i turn 21. well i hope everyone have fun when Doc Scott comes by because i wont be there. i sure hope the world doesnt end before i turn 21 because that would ruin my hopes completely. but i pray that people have enuff sense to know that the wolrd isnt going to end and that january 1st 2000 is just another saturday. man the machanical clock is the thing that controls how we act and thats a shame. well enuff of my megatronikphilosophy.....RAVE ON DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 16:22:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23179 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 16:22:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23168 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 16:22:37 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 16:22:37 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id JAA21078; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:22:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904291622.JAA21078@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) To: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu (josh sorkin) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: becky17f@hotmail.com, Space201@aol.com, unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990428163650.00b0c3e4@uclink4.berkeley.edu> from "josh sorkin" at Apr 28, 99 04:36:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > quite a few tracks that i have contain samples lifted straight out of > hiphop or rock or whatever. not only is this piracy, but they don't even > have the good grace to credit the artist that they've burned. not that big > a deal, artistic expression and all that, but they're making money off it. but not much... But then again... neither are M&M. Nobody is getting rich in the UG music scene. > if you do set up Troy Sheets' Egalitarian Trance Outlet, let me know so i > can start a tab :) :) I do have my tracks available on the net for free... -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 16:36:20 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3261 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 16:36:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3252 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 16:36:16 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 16:36:16 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id JAA12286 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.33) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma925403773.012279; Thu, 29 Apr 99 09:36:13 -0700 Received: from geocities.com (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17048 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37288A8F.4E53A8BB@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:36:31 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: urban_assault@geocities.com Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Requesting info on the Honey Party? References: <36d29571.2459d322@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk BigM009@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone have the location, time, and line up for the Honey Party? > Bob-bee if your out there. Peace, M Main Room: 9:00 to 10:00 A.L.E.R. 10:00 to 11:30 Ikon 11:30 to 1:00 Amber 1:00 to 2:30 Jeph 2:30 to 4:00 Andy W - Viberation 4:00 to 5:30 Joacman 5:30 to 7:00 Ryan Christopher Jungle Room: 9:00 to 10:15 Mike Wilson 10:15 to 11:30 dRONE 11:30 to 12:45 Meadow 12:45 to 2:00 Hak - Urban Assault / Solid Grooves 2:00 to 3:15 Siphon - Urban Assault / Viberation 3:15 to 4:30 Mark Clark 4:30 to 5:45 Pengo 5:45 to 7:00 Leath _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 16:37:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4699 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 16:37:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 4689 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 16:37:08 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 16:37:08 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Thu Apr 29 09:36:32 1999 To: "Silver Pearl Records" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:36:32 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Techno Cosmic Mass review/slander X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I've never met Linda Lowrance (or heard of her)and I had the most incredible time at this event... Maybe the college (University of Creation Spirituality- I have no official affiliation with them either) and this woman are conspiring to rip people off with their donation only events. Perhaps she truly is evil and will be forever and next time I see her I should "take care of her." I don't feel raped or violated in any way and if the college did they probably wouldn't still be working with her. Perhaps bad people can do good things or perhaps "bad" people are only "bad" when certain people look at them through a biased perspective. (we all have one) My heart goes out to all the people involved in the accident last weekend. And its always good to be aware of how circumstances and people might be connected to other circumstances and people. In this case, however, your abrasive condemnation of this particular community event seems to be more on the slanderous side and based in your own dislike for a particular person. How is this helpful to the scene? If your collective throws a good party and professionally I really don't like someone who may or may not be involved, I would probably still go. Ideally through dialogue such as is present on the list we can all get along (sorry for the cheeez) and this wouldn't be the case in the first place. Sorry for being naive in the politics of promotion, I just want to be able to go to an event and feel like I've grown and am in a better place when it is over. Productive interactions w/ other people are good like that! Ben -- On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:56:34 Silver Pearl Records wrote: >Ask around...Lightseed, Twelve Monkeys, The City of Oakland, Warmth, Ahsem Security all have had TERRIBLE experiences with her. We decided after we did that we would continually and forever do everything in our power to see that she did not RAPE any other promoters or our scene....And, like I said in the previous message, it is too bad that good people are being abused >by this woman...And...She has people on this list that promote for her, so she is represented. > >Peace, >Silver Pearl > > > >Troy Sheets wrote: > >> And, she is not on this forum to defend herself. It is kind of unfair >> to her to continue bashing her without hearing her side of things. >> >> As far as I can tell, Techno Cosmic Mass has pure intentions. No need to >> dis that event just becuase you personally have had bad expereinces with >> one person involved with it. I don't see anyone making lots of money >> off of these particular events... >> >> -troy >> >> > >> > I hope that the list realizes that this is just Linda Lowrance, the owner of JJ Newberry's in diguise. There is nothing spiritual, nothing postive, and nothing real about anything thatshe has her mits in. Please realize that no matter what propaganda you here about things at her space, no matter what other people truly believe, in the end, it all comes down to her >> > making money. >> > >> > It is too bad that more people cannot see through her facade...because it seems as though she has the ability to entrap many good people into her web of lies, deceit, and greed. >> > >> > Please stay away from anything on the block the reside in....1900 Telegraph and 1900 Broadway. >> > >> > Peace, >> > Silver Pearl >> > >> > PS...She is also responsible for the loft collapse last week that injured several of our raver friends... >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me >> http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks >> http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 16:38:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6669 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 16:38:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 6661 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 16:38:50 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 16:38:50 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id JAA13054; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub1.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.7) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma925403928.013045; Thu, 29 Apr 99 09:38:48 -0700 Received: from geocities.com (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18720; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37288B2A.392D08E2@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:39:06 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: urban_assault@geocities.com Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Megatron45@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Kung Fu Knowledge References: <2c70bd41.2459e0ac@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You can always move to Canada where 19 is the legal age. ;) And they bring in the bigger names in Jungle more often.... Just a thought, Siphon Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > > sonofaB-I-Itch.... > i really really really really really really hope that someone videotaped this > event. see i hate being the sober one and under 21. all i want to do is see > the dopest talent and the biggest names in jungle and i cant because of this > fuckin 21 and up law. man i hate america for this. i dont want to drink and i > will never drink ever in my life. well next year i wont be complaining but > this year and the years before i will be talkin my ass off til i turn 21. > well i hope everyone have fun when Doc Scott comes by because i wont be > there. i sure hope the world doesnt end before i turn 21 because that would > ruin my hopes completely. but i pray that people have enuff sense to know > that the wolrd isnt going to end and that january 1st 2000 is just another > saturday. man the machanical clock is the thing that controls how we act and > thats a shame. well enuff of my megatronikphilosophy.....RAVE ON > > DJMEGATRON:mechasoul -- _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 17:02:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19009 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 17:02:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 18997 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 17:01:57 -0000 Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.99) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 17:01:57 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429170322.2726.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web118.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:03:22 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:03:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Kung Fu Knowledge To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And if you hurry, the tour will be in Vancouver (but that might be the Wash one) and in Calgary. ;) But as for video tapes, The people at DNA were taping, I think. It may have been one of the tour peeps, but they seemed more like someone that worked there. So I guess you could try and see if you can get a copy from them. Or you could just wait until Formula and see Soul Slinger and 187 there. =D *HUGZ* pat --- Siphon wrote: > You can always move to Canada where 19 is the legal > age. ;) And they > bring in the bigger names in Jungle more often.... > > Just a thought, > Siphon > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 17:03:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19831 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 17:03:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 19809 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 17:02:58 -0000 Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.188) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 17:02:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429170448.22474.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.37.15.210] by web306.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:48 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1957747793-925405488=:21571" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --0-1957747793-925405488=:21571 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Check this lineup out! Note: forwarded message attached. --0-1957747793-925405488=:21571 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: stefango@yahoo.com via mdd301.yahoomail.com Return-Path: Received: from squirt.vmg.co.uk (195.152.83.20) by mta113.yahoomail.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 18:07:22 -0700 Received: from majordom by squirt.vmg.co.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10cfLY-0001Nh-00 for fluke-outgoing@vmg.co.uk; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:10:36 +0100 Received: from f48.hotmail.com ([207.82.250.59] helo=hotmail.com) by squirt.vmg.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10cfLV-0001Nb-00 for fluke@vmg.co.uk; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:10:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 19727 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 23:21:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428232110.19726.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.12.153.223 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:21:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.12.153.223] From: "CJ Reed" To: fluke@vmg.co.uk Subject: Pimpdaddy 3 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:21:09 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-fluke@vmg.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: fluke@vmg.co.uk Content-Length: 2549 SATURDAY MAY 29 psychedelic pimp-daddy land '99 (where's my wimmins') dramafree*dramafree state palace theater 1108 canal st new orleans, la 504.840.4112 live pa's(pimp action) -2 live crew(miami) -egyptian lover(la) -rob base & dj e-z rock(ny) -uberzone presents: the digital mix- a multi-platform dj set using turntables, a computer and other digital gizmos for a hybrid of mixing skills(city of angels; la) -bassbin twins( belgian breaks/skint/ sothern fried records; belgium) dj's -moby ....a dj performance(ny) -dj dan (funky tekno tribe/moonshine; sf) -tommie sunshine (xylophone jones/electro sun; atlanta) -stryfe (fb society/ nola) -db (shades of technology cd release/higher education/f-111 records/breakbeat science; ny) -ak1200 (artistic records/moonshine music/ orlando) -dj ani (formerly of deee lite/ zoo york, nyc) -danny tha wildchild ( canvas records/strength recordings; chicago) -187 (jungle sky; philly) -twist-1 (texas hardcorps/626 soul; austin) -clint mansell (composer of the PI soundtrack; pop will eat itself) -the all time high experience w/ dr. lovestar & mr paradise (superstars of love) -double hit mickey's traveling techno circus (la) -knuggs (protoculture; baton rouge) -batenda (french fried records; baton rouge) -indieo (pyramids; new orleans) -starbaby (fbs; new orleans) -zach (fbs; new orleans) -oktane (fbs; new orleans) -cease (fbs; new orleans) -madd (fbs; new orleans) movovum (underwater sea monkey eaters) special sunrise set on the deck also open mike kerioke machine for all you bedroom mc's -------------------------------------------------- quotes from last years freakfest bad boy bill "best party in 1998" dj mishja "i've never been to a party like this in the states" frankie bones "this is just like it was back in '91" disco "my cheeks rubbed together so much my butt was on fire" ---------------------------------------------------- doors open @ 9 pm (please proceed directly to the bathroom and shove a WHOLE roll of toilet paper in the bowl) bitch slappin 3-d laser show by laser spectalces of san marcos, tx(free glasses will be given away at the door)3-d show runs form 9pm- 12am visuals that love you long time by bionic dots(nyc) tickets $25 b4 may 8 $30 by may 29 $35 day of available at all ticketmaster outlets and at the door the day of the show cj x2c --0-1957747793-925405488=:21571-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 17:13:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26431 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 17:13:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 26413 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 17:13:08 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 17:13:08 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03679; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:08:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'Sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Cc: "'bischoff@corp.adaptec.com'" , "'hrose@earthsys.com'" , "'eyeawake@hotmail.com'" , "'sevennone@hotmail.com'" , "'adina0505@aol.com'" , "'jesse_1977@hotmail.com'" , "'cranberry@jps.net'" , "'daniel_hunt@hotmail.com'" , "'mich_hunt@hotmail.com'" , "'newbst@wwc.edu'" , "'sladew@hotmail.com'" Subject: NRR:New Virus Warning Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:08:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk You guys probably already know about this stuff. Just a warning though...> > > > You guYOYou guys > > > > > > WARNING > > > If you receive an email titled "It Takes Guts to Say Jesus" DO NOT > > > OPEN IT. It will erase everything on your hard drive. This > > information > > > was announced yesterday morning from IBM; AOL states that this is a > > > very dangerous virus, much worse than "Melissa", and that there is > > NO > > > remedy for it at this time. Some very sick individual has succeeded > > in > > > using the re-format function from Norton Utilities causing it to > > completely > > > erase all documents on the hard drive. It has been designed to > > work > > > with Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet Explorer. It > > destroys > > > MacIntosh and IBM compatible computers. This is a new, very > > malicious > > > virus and not many people know about it. Pass this warning along to > > > EVERYONE in your address book and please share it with all your > > online > > > friends ASAP so that this threat may be stopped. > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 17:22:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1789 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 17:22:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 1778 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 17:22:18 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 17:22:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429172032.22813.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.243] by web4; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:20:32 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: kung woo hoo To: Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Definately a night to remember from 1.8.7 performance to CRAZE....can ya say DAMN! I definately gotta make it out more often to these 21 and up drum n bass parties. See ya next week at Bryan G. =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Max McCauley wrote: > > > Make no mistake, there was not a frown to be seen inside the Kung Fu > Knowledge Tour tonight. > > Wicked performances all around, nuf shouts to the peacefully resting... > > tubs of cold celebrity beers, star eyes breaking the law. > > > w00 hah. > > nuf sed > > 10-4, > duh, > max > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 17:22:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2429 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 17:22:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 2340 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 17:22:31 -0000 Received: from f228.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.119) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 17:22:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 65701 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 17:22:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429172200.65700.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:22:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: stefango@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:22:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well I personally Feel that Hip-Hop and raves should not be combined period!!! Unless it is some sort of turntablist like scratch piklz or some downtempo hip-hop (I.E DJ CAM,DJ shawdow, local downtempoist) I don't want to see Two live crew at a rave!!! Secondly nice lineup though.. One of my friends from TX is playing. Seems like in the south and midwest they are real big on mega raves!! you thought we had it bad here well at least most big promoters here dont sell there tickets at BASS or tickmasters with the exception of Cool world prodcutions.. see ya, Macadio >From: Stefan Gosiewski >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT) > >Check this lineup out! > >Note: forwarded message attached. > ><< message3.txt >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 17:29:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6059 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 17:29:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 5857 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 17:29:18 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 17:29:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429171231.18267.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.104.156.116] by web1; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:12:31 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:12:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Joacman, Juaqman, Joaqman, Walkman, Jokeman, but ya doesn't has to call me Johnson To: urban_assault@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Heee hee he hhee Haa Haa Haa Hoo Hoo that tickles...me love tickles... ;) Joaqman ---Siphon wrote: > > BigM009@aol.com wrote: > > > > Does anyone have the location, time, and line up for the Honey Party? > > Bob-bee if your out there. Peace, M > > > Main Room: > 9:00 to 10:00 A.L.E.R. > 10:00 to 11:30 Ikon > 11:30 to 1:00 Amber > 1:00 to 2:30 Jeph > 2:30 to 4:00 Andy W - Viberation > 4:00 to 5:30 Joacman > 5:30 to 7:00 Ryan Christopher > > Jungle Room: > 9:00 to 10:15 Mike Wilson > 10:15 to 11:30 dRONE > 11:30 to 12:45 Meadow > 12:45 to 2:00 Hak - Urban Assault / Solid Grooves > 2:00 to 3:15 Siphon - Urban Assault / Viberation > 3:15 to 4:30 Mark Clark > 4:30 to 5:45 Pengo > 5:45 to 7:00 Leath > _____________________ > S i p h o n > Urban Assault [99] > info: 408.882.5064 > http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 17:30:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7120 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 17:30:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 7100 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 17:30:52 -0000 Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.61) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 17:30:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429173520.8851.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:20 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: kung woo hoo To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, Max McCauley , sfraves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yeah Jeremy! a little more d&b is all everybody needs. Kunf fu was a blast, and yes i can say it Craze: DAMN!!!!!! sorry megatron you couldnt make it in, you only have a few uhhh years to go, oh well. because it was the super supA drum and bass parte' cant say enough about the music, im glad i got to dance, and watch all the junglists do their thang as well. i love this. hah Jessica --- Jeremy Bispo wrote: > > Definately a night to remember from 1.8.7 > performance > to CRAZE....can ya say DAMN! > > I definately gotta make it out more often to these > 21 > and up drum n bass parties. See ya next week at > Bryan > G. > > =)jer > > > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > ---Max McCauley wrote: > > > > > > Make no mistake, there was not a frown to be seen > inside the Kung Fu > > Knowledge Tour tonight. > > > > Wicked performances all around, nuf shouts to the > peacefully resting... > > > > tubs of cold celebrity beers, star eyes breaking > the law. > > > > > > w00 hah. > > > > nuf sed > > > > 10-4, > > duh, > > max > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 17:58:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27693 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 17:58:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 27531 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 17:58:10 -0000 Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.99) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 17:58:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429175934.13655.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web118.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:59:34 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:59:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Kung-Fu Line Up Question To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who played when??? I'm got most, just want to fill in the holes. I have one of the tour booklets, but none look like they did last night. It is a good booklet though. It has a lil bio of the djs, their studios and lil tib-bits of some of the kung fu allstars (Jack Chan and the likes) It is put out by Knowledge, so now I have a little knowledge. heehee *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:02:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1586 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:02:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 1506 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:02:18 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:02:18 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02054 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990429110555.007ef510@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:05:55 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: re: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who's up for a sfraves caravan to new orleans??? Moby? Deee lite? Danny the wildchild? dj dan? 187? the list goes on and on.... damn i'm there! (i wish) Love, Carly >SATURDAY MAY 29 >psychedelic pimp-daddy land '99 >(where's my wimmins') > >dramafree*dramafree > >state palace theater >1108 canal st >new orleans, la >504.840.4112 > >live pa's(pimp action) >-2 live crew(miami) >-egyptian lover(la) >-rob base & dj e-z rock(ny) >-uberzone presents: the digital mix- a multi-platform dj set using >turntables, a computer and other digital gizmos for a hybrid of mixing >skills(city of angels; la) >-bassbin twins( belgian breaks/skint/ sothern fried records; belgium) >dj's >-moby >....a dj performance(ny) >-dj dan >(funky tekno tribe/moonshine; sf) >-tommie sunshine >(xylophone jones/electro sun; atlanta) >-stryfe >(fb society/ nola) >-db >(shades of technology cd release/higher education/f-111 >records/breakbeat science; ny) >-ak1200 >(artistic records/moonshine music/ orlando) >-dj ani >(formerly of deee lite/ zoo york, nyc) >-danny tha wildchild >( canvas records/strength recordings; chicago) >-187 >(jungle sky; philly) >-twist-1 >(texas hardcorps/626 soul; austin) >-clint mansell >(composer of the PI soundtrack; pop will eat itself) >-the all time high experience w/ dr. lovestar & mr paradise >(superstars of love) >-double hit mickey's traveling techno circus >(la) >-knuggs >(protoculture; baton rouge) >-batenda >(french fried records; baton rouge) >-indieo >(pyramids; new orleans) >-starbaby >(fbs; new orleans) >-zach >(fbs; new orleans) >-oktane >(fbs; new orleans) >-cease >(fbs; new orleans) >-madd >(fbs; new orleans) >movovum >(underwater sea monkey eaters) >special sunrise set on the deck >also >open mike kerioke machine for all you bedroom mc's > >-------------------------------------------------- >quotes from last years freakfest > >bad boy bill >"best party in 1998" > >dj mishja >"i've never been to a party like this in the states" > >frankie bones >"this is just like it was back in '91" > >disco >"my cheeks rubbed together so much my butt was on fire" >---------------------------------------------------- >doors open @ 9 pm >(please proceed directly to the bathroom and shove a WHOLE roll of >toilet paper in the bowl) >bitch slappin >3-d laser show by laser spectalces of san marcos, tx(free glasses >will be >given away at the door)3-d show runs form 9pm- 12am >visuals that love you long time by bionic dots(nyc) > >tickets $25 b4 may 8 >$30 by may 29 >$35 day of >available at all ticketmaster outlets and at the door the day of the >show > > > > cj > x2c > > > > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:03:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2508 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:03:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 2451 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:03:43 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:03:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429175712.24597.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.243] by attach1; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:57:12 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: Kung-Fu Line Up Question To: Patrick Seaton , SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk from my best knowledge... ??????-10:15 Sage 10:15-11:15 Machete 11:15-12:00 Ezra 12:00-1:00 1.8.7 1:00-2:20 Rob Playford 2:20-3:00 Craze if i'm missing something, can anybody clear it up? =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---Patrick Seaton wrote: > > Who played when??? I'm got most, just want to fill in the holes. > > I have one of the tour booklets, but none look like they did last > night. It is a good booklet though. It has a lil bio of the djs, > their studios and lil tib-bits of some of the kung fu allstars (Jack > Chan and the likes) It is put out by Knowledge, so now I have a little > knowledge. heehee > > > *HUGZ* > pat > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:08:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6797 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:08:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 6603 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:08:53 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:08:53 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-152.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.152]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA25744; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990429164235.006e92e8@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:42:35 -0500 To: "Macadio G." From: Nuku Subject: Re: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 10:22 AM 4/29/99 PDT, you wrote: >Well I personally Feel that Hip-Hop and raves should not be combined >period!!! Unless it is some sort of turntablist like scratch piklz or >some downtempo hip-hop (I.E DJ CAM,DJ shawdow, local downtempoist) I >don't want to see Two live crew at a rave!!! Secondly nice lineup >though.. One of my friends from TX is playing. Then like perhaps you should not go to Eckletic, cuz a lot of the time they have hip hop mixed in downstairs. Or perhaps you shouldn't listen jungle? Or perhaps you've gotten Hip-Hop confused with what the 2 Live crew is. 2Live in my ever so humble opinion is more like the Miami booty bass/rap. If anything those groups (rap) in the line-up seem to be throwbacks cuz I mean they have Rob Base on there! I wanna rock right now..I 'm rob base and i came to get down... Who cannot love a throw back like dat. Or I remember singing "one and one we're having some fun...in the bedroom all day and all of the nite!" There is a difference between having hip-hop and just plain thug rug mug rap. i mean just in the new issue of lotus, an advert for a party in Seattle, United State of Consc.. and who's playing there...Pharcyde and Afrika Bambatta. And how many times have you heard a track that had "she keeps on passin me by" mixed on it, and played at a party? So is it ok to to play music that samples from hip-hop but hot have the groups there? Is it ok to stop a party and just pull out yer arse a digital underground cut and play it for the crowd enjoyment as well as yer own? I mean really...why should they not combined ? Um I think this was a coherent email. Nuku >Seems like in the south and midwest they are real big on mega raves!! >you thought we had it bad here well at least most big promoters here >dont sell there tickets at BASS or tickmasters with the exception of >Cool world prodcutions.. > >see ya, >Macadio > > >>From: Stefan Gosiewski >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 >>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT) >> >>Check this lineup out! >> >>Note: forwarded message attached. >> >><< message3.txt >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:12:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10924 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:12:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 10891 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:12:43 -0000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:12:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429181200.9868.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:12:00 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:12:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Kung-Fu Line Up Question To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org, Patrick Seaton , SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks jeremy, u cleared it up for me, i got craze and rob switched around, i thought Rob Playford was freakin awesome, I danced so much while he was spinnin, now i know now i know now i know, bye --- Jeremy Bispo wrote: > from my best knowledge... > ??????-10:15 Sage > 10:15-11:15 Machete > 11:15-12:00 Ezra > 12:00-1:00 1.8.7 > 1:00-2:20 Rob Playford > 2:20-3:00 Craze > > if i'm missing something, can anybody clear it up? > > =)jer > > === > Jeremy B. Bispo > Member Support Specialist > Cybergold, Inc. > 2921 Adeline > Berkeley CA 94703 > 510.845.5000 ext. 126 > > > > > ---Patrick Seaton wrote: > > > > Who played when??? I'm got most, just want to fill > in the holes. > > > > I have one of the tour booklets, but none look > like > they did last > > night. It is a good booklet though. It has a lil > bio of the djs, > > their studios and lil tib-bits of some of the > kung > fu allstars (Jack > > Chan and the likes) It is put out by Knowledge, > so > now I have a little > > knowledge. heehee > > > > > > *HUGZ* > > pat > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:20:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22977 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:20:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 22896 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:20:29 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:20:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429181847.3143.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web4; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:18:47 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: KFK question: No Bailey?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well if he wasn't there I don't feel so bad about not going. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:21:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23144 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:21:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22987 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:20:43 -0000 Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.68) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:20:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429182409.5908.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:24:09 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 To: Nuku , "Macadio G." Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I agree! There is a big difference between hip hop and the 2 live crew. Every time I have heard hip hip at a party I have loved it, its sooo fun to dance too. Its fun to listen to also, anything that drops knowledge. ummmmm Epiphany had some funky hip hop at daybreaks, and let me tell you it was highly enjoyable. I love to spin hip hop more than anything cuz i like the way it flows, its relaxing, just chiillll. hip hop and jungle compliment eachother well. I enjoy it. and i dont mean no puff daddy. ;p jessica --- Nuku wrote: > At 10:22 AM 4/29/99 PDT, you wrote: > >Well I personally Feel that Hip-Hop and raves > should not be combined > >period!!! Unless it is some sort of turntablist > like scratch piklz or > >some downtempo hip-hop (I.E DJ CAM,DJ shawdow, > local downtempoist) I > >don't want to see Two live crew at a rave!!! > Secondly nice lineup > >though.. One of my friends from TX is playing. > > Then like perhaps you should not go to > Eckletic, cuz a lot of the > time they have hip hop mixed in downstairs. Or > perhaps you shouldn't listen > jungle? Or perhaps you've gotten Hip-Hop confused > with what the 2 Live crew > is. 2Live in my ever so humble opinion is more like > the Miami booty bass/rap. > If anything those groups (rap) in the line-up seem > to be throwbacks cuz I > mean they have Rob Base on there! > I wanna rock right now..I 'm rob base and i > came to get down... > Who cannot love a throw back like dat. Or I remember > singing "one and one > we're having some fun...in the bedroom all day and > all of the nite!" > > There is a difference between having hip-hop and > just plain thug rug mug > rap. i mean just in the new issue of lotus, an > advert for a party in > Seattle, United State of Consc.. and who's playing > there...Pharcyde and > Afrika Bambatta. And how many times have you heard a > track that had "she > keeps on passin me by" mixed on it, and played at a > party? So is it ok to to > play music that samples from hip-hop but hot have > the groups there? Is it ok > to stop a party and just pull out yer arse a digital > underground cut and > play it for the crowd enjoyment as well as yer own? > I mean really...why > should they not combined ? > > Um I think this was a coherent email. > Nuku > > >Seems like in the south and midwest they are real > big on mega raves!! > >you thought we had it bad here well at least most > big promoters here > >dont sell there tickets at BASS or tickmasters with > the exception of > >Cool world prodcutions.. > > > >see ya, > >Macadio > > > > > >>From: Stefan Gosiewski > >>To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >>Subject: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 > >>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:48 -0700 (PDT) > >> > >>Check this lineup out! > >> > >>Note: forwarded message attached. > >> > >><< message3.txt >> > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:24:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28230 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:24:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 28065 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:24:04 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:24:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA15097 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:24:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: re: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What about AK1200 and DJ ANI??? Cant forget them... But who cares anyway, because we all know it is all about MOBY!!! I have never been to new orleans before... hmmmm...... >salivating< Gregery >>Who's up for a sfraves caravan to new orleans??? Moby? Deee lite? Danny the wildchild? dj dan? 187? the list goes on and on.... damn i'm there! (i wish) Love, Carly<< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:27:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1695 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:27:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 1652 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:27:33 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:27:33 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09291; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:19:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'Jess ica'" , Nuku , "Macadio G." Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Pimpdaddy 3 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:19:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk For what it's worth, I think it's refreshing to hear some hip hop at parties!! I really enjoy it, it has a different beat from trance, house, jungle, whatever and it IS fun to dance to!! I love it. I don't like the rap stuff though, like 2 live crew, they shouldn't be played at rave type parties. But I really enjoy the knowledge-dropping hip hop that they spin sometimes!! it is a refreshing change from the "norm"!! Naomi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:30:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4164 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:30:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 3996 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:30:46 -0000 Received: from osiris.vegasquick.com (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:30:46 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA18518; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:26:59 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: Cc: "Poopieheads" Subject: It Takes Guts To Say Jesus Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:32:25 -0700 Message-ID: <002001be926e$a0cb79e0$104b65d1@seker.t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm gonna need some verifiable sources on this one. If someone is smart enough to make a virus that does all this, I want them to work for me. --Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Naomi Thompson > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 10:08 AM > To: 'Sfraves@hyperreal.org' > Cc: 'bischoff@corp.adaptec.com'; 'hrose@earthsys.com'; > 'eyeawake@hotmail.com'; 'sevennone@hotmail.com'; 'adina0505@aol.com'; > 'jesse_1977@hotmail.com'; 'cranberry@jps.net'; > 'daniel_hunt@hotmail.com'; 'mich_hunt@hotmail.com'; 'newbst@wwc.edu'; > 'sladew@hotmail.com' > Subject: NRR:New Virus Warning > > > You guys probably already know about this stuff. Just a warning > though...> > > > > You guYOYou guys > > > > > > > > WARNING > > > > If you receive an email titled "It Takes Guts to Say Jesus" > DO NOT > > > > OPEN IT. It will erase everything on your hard drive. This > > > information > > > was announced yesterday morning from IBM; AOL > states that > this is a > > > > very dangerous virus, much worse than "Melissa", and that > there is > > > NO > > > remedy for it at this time. Some very sick individual > has succeeded > > > in > > > using the re-format function from Norton Utilities causing it > to > > completely > > > > erase all documents on the hard drive. It has been designed to > > > work > > > with Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet > Explorer. It > > > destroys > > > MacIntosh and IBM compatible computers. This is a > new, very > > > malicious > > > virus and not many people know about it. Pass this > warning along to > > > EVERYONE in your address book and please share it > with all your > > online > > > friends ASAP so that this threat may be > stopped. > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:38:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15693 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:38:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 15640 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:38:44 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:38:44 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Thu Apr 29 11:37:56 1999 To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org, "Vegas Rick" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:37:56 -0700 From: "Electric Joy Boy" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "Poopieheads" X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: HOAX: was It Takes Guts To Say Jesus X-Sender-Ip: 206.66.135.218 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The "takes guts to say Jesus" virus is a hoax; there is no such virus. There is a list of real and hoax viruses at the following Network Associates (McAfee/Virex) sites: Viruses: http://vil.mcafee.com/villib/alpha.asp Hoaxes: http://vil.mcafee.com/villib/hoax.asp Jesus Virus Hoax: http://vil.mcafee.com/villib/dispHoax.asp?id=vh10053 There are over 40,000 viruses around, so it's always better to be safe than sorry. Hoax virus alerts, however, clog up e-mail systems like chain mail (something like a human propelled Melissa virus!) Hope everyone is having a good Thursday, Ben -- On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:32:25 Vegas Rick wrote: >I'm gonna need some verifiable sources on this one. If someone is smart >enough to make a virus that does all this, I want them to work for me. > >--Rick > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On >> Behalf Of Naomi Thompson >> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 10:08 AM >> To: 'Sfraves@hyperreal.org' >> Cc: 'bischoff@corp.adaptec.com'; 'hrose@earthsys.com'; >> 'eyeawake@hotmail.com'; 'sevennone@hotmail.com'; 'adina0505@aol.com'; >> 'jesse_1977@hotmail.com'; 'cranberry@jps.net'; >> 'daniel_hunt@hotmail.com'; 'mich_hunt@hotmail.com'; 'newbst@wwc.edu'; >> 'sladew@hotmail.com' >> Subject: NRR:New Virus Warning >> >> >> You guys probably already know about this stuff. Just a warning >> though...> > >> > > You guYOYou guys >> > > > >> > > > WARNING >> > > > If you receive an email titled "It Takes Guts to Say Jesus" >> DO NOT > >> > > OPEN IT. It will erase everything on your hard drive. This > > >> information > > > was announced yesterday morning from IBM; AOL >> states that >> this is a >> > > > very dangerous virus, much worse than "Melissa", and that >> there is > > >> NO > > > remedy for it at this time. Some very sick individual >> has succeeded >> > > in > > > using the re-format function from Norton Utilities causing it >> to > > completely >> > > > erase all documents on the hard drive. It has been designed to > > >> work > > > with Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet >> Explorer. It > > >> destroys > > > MacIntosh and IBM compatible computers. This is a >> new, very >> > > malicious > > > virus and not many people know about it. Pass this >> warning along to > > > EVERYONE in your address book and please share it >> with all your > > online > > > friends ASAP so that this threat may be >> stopped. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:39:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17058 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:39:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 17016 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:39:22 -0000 Received: from corpmail1.jps.net (209.63.224.250) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:39:22 -0000 Received: from kickass (209-239-198-226.oak.jps.net [209.239.198.226]) by corpmail1.jps.net (8.9.0/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08149; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00d701be926f$f7c87fd0$77019665@cuhelp.com> From: "Jay" To: "Vegas Rick" , Cc: "Poopieheads" References: <002001be926e$a0cb79e0$104b65d1@seker.t2000> Subject: Re: It Takes Guts To Say Jesus Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:41:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk NEW VIRUS ALERT If you receive an email entitled "Badtimes," delete it immediately. Do not Open it. Apparently this one is pretty nasty. It will not only erase everything on your hard drive, but it will also delete anything on disks within 20 feet of your computer. It demagnetizes the stripes on ALL of your credit cards. It reprograms your ATM access code, screws up the tracking on your VCR and uses subspace field harmonics to scratch any CD's you attempt to play. It will re-calibrate your refrigerator's coolness settings so all your ice cream melts and your milk curdles. It will program your phone autodial to call only your mother-in-law's number. This virus will mix antifreeze into your fish tank. It will drink all your beer. It will leave dirty socks on the coffee table when you are expecting company. Its radioactive emissions will cause your toe jam and bellybutton fuzz (be honest, you have some) to migrate behind your ears. It will replace your shampoo with Nair and your Nair with Rogaine, all while dating your current boy/girlfriend behind your back and billing their hotel rendezvous to your Visa card. It will cause you to run with scissors and throw things in a way that is only fun until someone loses an eye. It will give you Dutch Elm Disease and Tinea. It will rewrite your backup files, changing all your active verbs to passive tense and incorporating undetectable misspellings which grossly change the interpretations of key sentences. If the "Badtimes" message is opened in a Windows95 environment, it will leave the toilet seat up and leave your hair dryer plugged in dangerously close to a full bathtub. It will not only remove the forbidden tags from your mattresses and pillows, but it will also refill your skim milk with whole milk. It will replace all your luncheon meat with Spam. It will molecularly rearrange your cologne or perfume, causing it to smell like dill pickles. It is insidious and subtle. It is dangerous and terrifying to behold. It is also a rather interesting shade of mauve. These are just a few signs of infection. PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:39:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17623 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:39:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 17391 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:39:35 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:39:35 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-201.dsp.com [204.118.76.201]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA26705; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:39:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199904291839.LAA26705@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:40:06 -0700 To: "Vegas Rick" , From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: It Takes Guts To Say Jesus Cc: "Poopieheads" In-Reply-To: <002001be926e$a0cb79e0$104b65d1@seker.t2000> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.stiller.com/guts.htm says: R News: The "Guts to say 'Jesus'" Hoax The "Guts to say 'Jesus'" hoax first appeared late in 1998. It died out for a while and has now made a huge resurgence. It is currently one of our most common virus hoaxes. There is very little that is new in this hoax; it is mostly rehash of prior hoaxes (see Old Hoaxes Combined.) and this one falls into that category. I initially hesitated to post a specific warning about this hoax because I believed that readers of our hoax page would immediately recognize this is a hoax because it contains so much text stolen from prior hoaxes but sadly this isn't the case. Note that only the beginning of this hoax contains some new text. But even this "new text" fits into the old hoax pattern started by The "Good Times" Email virus hoax. Where you are warned to avoid a virus by shunning email with some particular title. It also contains the sure-fire hoax indicator of asking you to forward this message to others. (If you see a virus warning like this, you should disregard it.) Here is the beginning of this hoax: VIRUS WARNING !!!!!!! If you receive an email titled "It Takes Guts to Say 'Jesus,'" DO NOT open it. It will erase everything on your hard drive. Forward this letter out to as many people as you can. This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people know about it. This information was announced yesterday morning from IBM; please share it with everyone that might access the Internet. Once again, pass this along to EVERYONE in your address book so that this may be stopped. >From this point on, the hoax contains text from the old "Undelivered Mail" hoax: Also, do not open or even look at any mail that says "RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVER." This virus will attach itself to your computer components and render them useless. Immediately delete any mail items that say this. Now the hoax tries to claim some legitimacy by referring to AOL: AOL has said that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is NO remedy for it at this time. Please practice cautionary measures and forward this to all your online friends ASAP. There is no such thing as a virus with no remedy. And yet again we see the classic hoax sign; a request to "forward this to all your online friends". Anytime you see this in an email, you can assume that the message is a hoax! New Variation: There is a recent variation on the above hoax that does some further appeals to authority in an attempt to add legitimacy to the hoax. This version of the hoax begins: I have verified this from an internet hoax verification site. This one is real..awareness is everything.. This one has been verified by GE corp IT group. Please note that checking with a hoax site (such as the one you are on now) will show ONLY the most common hoaxes. No site can list every hoax (there are hundreds of hoaxes that never get wide distribution). The fact that a hoax is not listed does not mean it's legitimate. The hoax then continues along the lines of the original version: It appears to be real. All Email users, If you receive an email titled "It Takes Guts to Say 'Jesus'" DO NOT open it. It will erase everything on your hard drive. Forward this letter out to as many people as you can. This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people know about it. This information was announced yesterday morning from IBM; please share it with everyone that might access the Internet. Once again, pass this along to EVERYONE in your address book so that this may be stopped. Also, do not open or even look at any mail that says "RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVER." This virus will attach itself to your computer components >> >>>and render them useless. Immediately delete any mail items that say this. AOL has said that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is NO remedy for it at this time. Please practice cautionary measures and forward this to all your online friends ASAP. At 11:32 AM 4/29/99 -0700, Vegas Rick wrote: >I'm gonna need some verifiable sources on this one. If someone is smart >enough to make a virus that does all this, I want them to work for me. > >--Rick > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:42:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20700 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:42:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 20502 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:42:01 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:42:01 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Thu Apr 29 11:41:30 1999 To: "San Francisco Rave Collective " Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:41:30 0000 From: "Jaw Scarecrow Pyximhn" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: Reply-To: X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: kharma X-Sender-Ip: 207.62.238.229 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.splendiferous.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk "So I am writing again, and might be published soon. (again) It makes me quite happy to see that people order themselves as a group in the like fashion of a mailing list. I only mean to comment on it as I believe it a good idea. There are so many of you folks that make a difference in the lives of those around you. I think also that such a collective lends itself to many shared truths. These eventually become the backbone of the genre. The genre can then realize a dogma, and the high times ensure an enlightenment that helps the collective. The San Francisco bay area will always be a place of exuberance and diversity, as well a place of unity and progression. It is in the light of this well being that we may remember one another. That is my earnest hope. Several groups of professional entertainers share this light with the collective. It is a truly wondrous opportunity to cultivate the feelings of resplendence. To trance out to, or clearly to revel in that light that I mention, because it is a shared experience, promotes a sense of well being. It fosters a sense of safety, a calm in the tumult of the wicked way of things today. I am glad to benefit from their force, and I am glad to share my spring time with yours. As the light of the sun shines down upon us may we reach a level of joy that can only be matched by each other. May we know the ecstasy of bliss as it visits us in in spirit of the speaker. As the sound cascades throe the collective let it resonate vibrance, let it reverberate life. Remember each other in the light of the collective and thrive. RAVE ON! --- Have a pint at Filthy McNasty's, then. Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:48:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27800 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:48:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 27787 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:48:26 -0000 Received: from web301.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.183) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:48:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429185112.22487.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [153.36.252.146] by web301.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:51:12 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:51:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Gosiewski Subject: Pimpdaddy 3 Caravan To: Carly Bourne Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That's why I posted the info... --- Carly Bourne wrote: > Who's up for a sfraves caravan to new orleans??? Being such an Old Schooler I am Open minded to stylistic crossovers and our scene owes much to Early HipHop Underground parties. And although I agree with Macdadi0 that 2 live crew are questionable (I didn't book the show I only posted the info!) The Idea that their fans will be exposed to 1.8.7. , DJ DB, Uberzone & DJ Dan is a delicious prospect ... The theme is Pimpdaddy after all .... in the Words of Mikey Dread `We gotta break down the walls built by Babylon, For they are meant to divide us' From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:50:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 108 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:50:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 29855 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:50:00 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:50:00 -0000 Received: from SpinDazE@aol.com (14442) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLFLa07094; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:49:11 -0400 (EDT) From: SpinDazE@aol.com Message-ID: <8ed39810.245a03a6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:49:10 EDT Subject: Re: Pimpdaddy 3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org CC: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I WISH we could do an sfraves travel wagon . .. my friend goes to Louisianna State, and she called me just to make me jealous about this extravaganza galore ....ahhh i wanna go! Well, one day when i have lots of money to travel i will be there and everywhere =) :*:*angel*:*: In a message dated 4/29/99 11:02:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << Who's up for a sfraves caravan to new orleans??? Moby? Deee lite? Danny the wildchild? dj dan? 187? the list goes on and on.... damn i'm there! (i wish) Love, Carly >SATURDAY MAY 29 >psychedelic pimp-daddy land '99 >(where's my wimmins') > >dramafree*dramafree > >state palace theater >1108 canal st >new orleans, la >504.840.4112 > >live pa's(pimp action) >-2 live crew(miami) >-egyptian lover(la) >-rob base & dj e-z rock(ny) >-uberzone presents: the digital mix- a multi-platform dj set using >turntables, a computer and other digital gizmos for a hybrid of mixing >skills(city of angels; la) >-bassbin twins( belgian breaks/skint/ sothern fried records; belgium) >dj's >-moby >....a dj performance(ny) >-dj dan >(funky tekno tribe/moonshine; sf) >-tommie sunshine >(xylophone jones/electro sun; atlanta) >-stryfe >(fb society/ nola) >-db >(shades of technology cd release/higher education/f-111 >records/breakbeat science; ny) >-ak1200 >(artistic records/moonshine music/ orlando) >-dj ani >(formerly of deee lite/ zoo york, nyc) >-danny tha wildchild >( canvas records/strength recordings; chicago) >-187 >(jungle sky; philly) >-twist-1 >(texas hardcorps/626 soul; austin) >-clint mansell >(composer of the PI soundtrack; pop will eat itself) >-the all time high experience w/ dr. lovestar & mr paradise >(superstars of love) >-double hit mickey's traveling techno circus >(la) >-knuggs >(protoculture; baton rouge) >-batenda >(french fried records; baton rouge) >-indieo >(pyramids; new orleans) >-starbaby >(fbs; new orleans) >-zach >(fbs; new orleans) >-oktane >(fbs; new orleans) >-cease >(fbs; new orleans) >-madd >(fbs; new orleans) >movovum >(underwater sea monkey eaters) >special sunrise set on the deck >also >open mike kerioke machine for all you bedroom mc's > >-------------------------------------------------- >quotes from last years freakfest > >bad boy bill >"best party in 1998" > >dj mishja >"i've never been to a party like this in the states" > >frankie bones >"this is just like it was back in '91" > >disco >"my cheeks rubbed together so much my butt was on fire" >---------------------------------------------------- >doors open @ 9 pm >(please proceed directly to the bathroom and shove a WHOLE roll of >toilet paper in the bowl) >bitch slappin >3-d laser show by laser spectalces of san marcos, tx(free glasses >will be >given away at the door)3-d show runs form 9pm- 12am >visuals that love you long time by bionic dots(nyc) > >tickets $25 b4 may 8 >$30 by may 29 >$35 day of >available at all ticketmaster outlets and at the door the day of the >show > > > > cj > x2c > > > > >> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 18:52:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2004 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 18:52:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 1995 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 18:52:48 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 18:52:48 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-152.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.152]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA00992 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990429172631.006ed428@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:26:31 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Nuku Subject: NRR: Is it just me? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk or did that virus thing just go through the sfr mail list? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:01:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7896 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:01:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 7698 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:01:32 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:01:32 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA27253 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:00:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wck-ca22-47.ix.netcom.com(207.92.174.175) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027010; Thu Apr 29 13:59:43 1999 Message-ID: <3723D0CF.39A6@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:34:57 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver Reply-To: etraver@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Ok, let me first mention that I didn't want to go to this party =().We were supposed to go to the $1 party. So, maybe if I wanted to go it would of been better. ThankYou Moda for getting me inn, if I had paid I would of been pissed :)--He had a great set by the way, I danced my ass off through his entire slot, and some guy from Seattle was descent as well. But other then that, the music was ok, definatly nothing impressive. I don't think I've ever seen so many phucked up kids at a party, and I know everyone says, "what do you expect". But here are some many instances of e-tards: Stumbling all over the place, bumping into people and flailing they're arms everywhere, while they think that they're dancing. People that were getting excited over a rekkid that was mixed by itself--If you can see for your own eyes that only one rekkid's being spun and that it mixes into a nice little beat by itself, why would you start yelling ??? Damn, I'd throw a party for 20 bux everyday if people were going to pay me to just play rekkids and have no skill. Whistle dorks that were squicking obnoxiously and weren't even carrying a tune. So one whistle starts and 10 more follow, all on differant notes**BLAH!!...Mass headache!!** Some positive notes: The fans were really nice, except for all the kids that were sitting on floor, just happened to sit right in front of them. I was dancing by a ton of kids that must of been sitting in front of one fan for over an hour, How hot can it be just sitting on the floor? When you first enter the Jackson venue there was a sign which said, "no whistles", that was cool =) There was enough room to really dance, not just to move a little, but every time I'd really start getting into it, some random wierdo would come up to me and start talking to me, why you ask, I have no phucken clue? -- Let me see, some people said they liked my hair, for all of you that know me, I have thee most basic 'short hair' type look goin on. People had to stop me to tell that they liked my shoes, ok...I never stare at anyones shoes, and they are definatly nothing special. Oh!, and people had to let me know that they loved my shirt, which had white buttons on it, and just like everyone else that was there that had some piece of white clothing on, 'white glows under black light'- The lighting was actually pretty good. And that was that. I give it a 3 out of 10, maybe if I wasn't so irritated with almost everyone that was there it could of been more like a 5, still definatly not worth 20 bux. > > so last night i actually enjoyed a party at 2nd and jackson, it was quite > refreshing... > > i mean don't get me wrong, there were some thug fucks stealing peoples bags, > hundreds of eee'd out 14-yearolds everywhere (mostly on the dirty-ass floor), > $2 for warm water(really pathetic, that shit shoulda been cold for $2)... but > damn! the music was sick, the people that were dancing had some decent energy, > and IT WASN'T BOILING HOT... > > huge thumbs up to kevin (promoter) for bringing in those _massive_ fans (which > only cost $30 a piece for all you promoters) and for not completely _p a c k i > n g_ the venue. > > at any rate, it was nice, but its sad to see what people are making of parties > these days... so many kids taking excessive drugs (shit... and selling that > crap too, i wanna call every ONE of those little shit's parents everytime i > here....' eeee ??? " whatever... i had fun. > > l8. > tangent. > > _ _ > _|_ _.._ _ _ ._ _|_ (_) (_) [icq:20465861] > |_(_|| |(_|(/_| | |_ (_) (_) [now where was i?] > _| > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:05:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9623 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:05:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 9269 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:05:08 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:05:08 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA00370; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990429115624.00a04bc4@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:56:29 -0700 To: Jessica Webster , "Vegas Rick" , From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: It Takes Guts To Say Jesus Cc: "Poopieheads" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it really is a virus, though. not a computer virus in the conventional sense, but an idea virus that attaches to the standard "fear of computer virus" receptor site in your brain, and then functions as an MTD...a Misguidedhelpfulness Transmitted Disease. makes copies of itself based on the number of people you forward it to. promotion works the same way. for instance, if i tell you that Outer Space is happening this Saturday night, info at (415) 267-3930, first it attaches to the "get irked that he didn't say this was a BSP how sneaky of him" site, then it affects your curiosity because you wonder just what info is available at (415) 267-3930, all the while repeated exposure to the number (415) 267-3930 wears down your anti-promotion immune system, until you collapse, call, find out about the three rooms of groovy lineup we have, and pass the number on to your friends. we are being reshaped by what infects us. AIDS teaches this more than anything else...just imagine, a simple virus that has completely altered the way we think about sex, drug use, and marijuana. the mutation is in progress and there is no stopping the future. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:05:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10373 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:05:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 10300 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:05:41 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:05:41 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA27377 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990429120926.007ecd90@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:09:26 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: <--------Genius at work Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well... Instead of thoroughly checking every pocket of my pants before throwing them in the washing machine... I accidentally washed pants + the ten flyers in my back pocket from the last party. Did you know that a full color flyer will magically transform into a pretty colorful dye when placed in a washing machine??? Anyways... if you see a girl with lovely pink and yellow spots all over her clothes at the next party.... that would be my dumb-ass... looking for bleach, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:09:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12230 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:09:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12221 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:09:34 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:09:34 -0000 Received: from yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (yog-sothoth.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.29.227]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19940; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990429115930.00a06050@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: case@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:59:32 -0700 To: Troy Sheets From: josh sorkin Subject: Re: Track listings (was Re: Mystr-E track question....) Cc: becky17f@hotmail.com, Space201@aol.com, unclenoa@netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 09:22 AM 4/29/99 -0700, Troy Sheets wrote: >but not much... But then again... neither are M&M. Nobody is getting >rich in the UG music scene. > except for the massive promoters, the out-of-town superstar DJs, the dealers, the distributors, the security crews, and of course, Crystal Geyser... where does the underground end and the corporation begin? ---------------------------- and if tomorrow ever comes: "We'll know how small we really are. We'll be amazed we've come this far. We'll rip the blinders from our eyes and truly see." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:18:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19871 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:18:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 19844 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:18:53 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:18:53 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-a3 (mmf4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.74]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13128; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904291918.MAA13128@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: etraver@ix.netcom.com From: "Rafael" Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:21:16 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >When you first enter the Jackson venue there was a sign which said, "no >whistles", that was cool =) Bwaahha hahaha hah heh heh! That's funny...hm, that's a good idea. How great would it be if everyone got to 2nd&Jackson/HomeBass/whathaveyou and there was a biiig poster up with rainbows and butterflies that says, "No whistles, no lotion, no sex, and especially no filthy adolescent e-tards" and everyone was crying in front of it. I love it. Rafie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:25:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23927 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:25:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 23837 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:25:17 -0000 Received: from f44.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.55) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 92530 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 19:27:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429192732.92529.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:27:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Revise my hip-hop statement Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:27:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I guess I should have said Rap acts or miami bass sounding acts should not be at parties. I do enjoy hip hop and I do listen to it (I.E DJ Cam,DJ shawdow, Tupac, poor rightous teachers xclan,PE,KRS-1 etc) There is a difference between hip-hop and rap acts. I do listen to Jungle from time to time and find it to be a nice change of pace to trance and tekno but hell I listen to mix 106.5 most of the time or UB40 or George michaels greatest hits as well. I just don't think that a party is the place to hold a concert with acts like Ice- Cube,Wutang clan or any other rap acts of that sort. That is all I was trying to say not that I don't think Hip-hop should be at parties I just don't think some rap acts should be at parties. see ya, Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:29:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26581 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:29:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 26503 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:29:21 -0000 Received: from kuku-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO kuku.excite.com) (198.3.99.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:29:21 -0000 Received: from bessie.excite.com ([199.172.152.102]) by kuku.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990429192853.DBNQ20750.kuku@bessie.excite.com> for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:28:53 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: saturday and the millennium? Message-Id: <925414132.21643.505@excite.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:28:52 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk howdy all... may i say... stop stressing about new year's... sheez it isn't even may yet.... but when you do decide what to do, do it carefully and thoughtfully.... i think that the change of the year is a very important time... in my experience, whatever i'm doing at that moment is a picture of my year to come... like 3 years ago, i was in the street handing out fairy rave mother fortunes to hundreds of kids as our parties were being broken up... was tidings of the year to come... each and every year has been different, and meaningful.... and i always take a few hours that day to reflect on my past and my future... and this year, the y2k turning of the calendar... as tom/pj fuzzy has announced (though when he started calling me earthmother, i don't know) .... i'll be on a beach in thailand with him and messiah wannabe and nellie and friends.... (and he says he'll be naked.... i don't know if i made that promise yet!) sounds perfect. i'm psyched. but in the meantime, hey, life goes on.... and i'll be at disco biscuits saturday night... i'll be outside working the line with my disco silver shirt on.... and of course my siilver bracelets, and maybe i'll come up with a silver headpiece.... so please come say hi and introduce yourself if we haven't met, ok? (and please please get those tickets early.... ) so.... see you all then! love, leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:32:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28423 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:32:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 28325 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:32:25 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:32:25 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14397) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rILJa24046; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:29:55 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <557baeed.245a0d33@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:29:55 EDT Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE To: ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/29/1999 12:19:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: << Bwaahha hahaha hah heh heh! That's funny...hm, that's a good idea. How great would it be if everyone got to 2nd&Jackson/HomeBass/whathaveyou and there was a biiig poster up with rainbows and butterflies that says, "No whistles, no lotion, no sex, and especially no filthy adolescent e-tards" and everyone was crying in front of it. I love it. >> That would mean you couldnt go Rafie. And that would be a sad sad thing. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:36:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 905 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:36:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 887 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:36:17 -0000 Received: from web133.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:36:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429193636.25358.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web133.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:36:36 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:36:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: <--------Genius at work To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It's the NEW Style. ;) *HUGZ* pat --- Carly Bourne wrote: > Anyways... if you see a girl with lovely pink and > yellow spots all over her > clothes at the next party.... that would be my > dumb-ass... > > looking for bleach, > Carly From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:43:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5227 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:43:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 5205 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:43:36 -0000 Received: from ww187.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:43:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 23533 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 1999 19:43:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429194334.23532.qmail@ww187.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.87 by ww187 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Thu Apr 29 19:43:34 GMT 1999 Date: 29 Apr 99 12:43:34 PDT From: Stuart Sung To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [<--------Genius at work] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Humm...the colours of the 60's/70's. Say, aren't those colour combination making a come back? Stu > = > Well... > = > Instead of thoroughly checking every pocket of my pants before throwing= > them in the washing machine... I accidentally washed pants + the ten fl= yers > in my back pocket from the last party. Did you know that a full color > flyer will magically transform into a pretty colorful dye when placed i= n a > washing machine??? > = > Anyways... if you see a girl with lovely pink and yellow spots all over= her > clothes at the next party.... that would be my dumb-ass... > = > looking for bleach, > Carly > = > *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > = > Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 = > BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D There's only one success - Being able to spend your life your own way. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:47:25 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8584 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:47:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 8546 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:47:09 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:47:09 -0000 Received: from best.com ([216.132.92.5]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id MAA28893; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3728B5F9.E48A9989@best.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:41:45 -0700 From: just jer Organization: @spire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Macadio G." CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Revise my hip-hop statement References: <19990429192732.92529.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk word! =) I totally agree. "Macadio G." wrote: > > I guess I should have said Rap acts or miami bass sounding acts > should not be at parties. I do enjoy hip hop and I do listen to it > (I.E DJ Cam,DJ shawdow, Tupac, poor rightous teachers xclan,PE,KRS-1 > etc) There is a difference between hip-hop and rap acts. I do listen > to Jungle from time to time and find it to be a nice change of pace > to trance and tekno but hell I listen to mix 106.5 most of the time > or UB40 or George michaels greatest hits as well. I just don't think > that a party is the place to hold a concert with acts like Ice- > Cube,Wutang clan or any other rap acts of that sort. That is all I > was trying to say not that I don't think Hip-hop should be at parties > I just don't think some rap acts should be at parties. > > see ya, > Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:47:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9595 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:47:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 9430 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:47:44 -0000 Received: from web133.yahoomail.com (HELO send205.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.220) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:47:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429194811.27818.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web133.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:48:11 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:48:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Kung-Fu Line Up Question To: SF Raver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Wasn't there someone else before Machete??? Those are the two I'm sure of which is which. The first guy had a lot of hip-hop in his mix and then the other had an "elfish" appearance. Before anyone freaks, I happen to like elves. Which one of these two is Sage. Sorry I don't get to the Bay much. *HUGZ* pat --- Jeremy Bispo wrote: > from my best knowledge... > ??????-10:15 Sage > 10:15-11:15 Machete > 11:15-12:00 Ezra > 12:00-1:00 1.8.7 > 1:00-2:20 Rob Playford > 2:20-3:00 Craze From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 19:49:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11332 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 19:49:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 11234 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 19:49:44 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 19:49:44 -0000 Received: from godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.45]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id PAA23989; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id PAA19331; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:36:12 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla4.acpub.duke.edu To: Naomi Thompson cc: "'Jess ica'" , Nuku , "Macadio G." , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Pimpdaddy 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk true hip hop is like musical poetry. it takes you lyrically to the world of the mc. hip hop belongs anywhere other music is being played, especially at parties with jungel and breaks (aren't the base lines pretty much the same?) i would agree that "ghetto" rap doesn't have much place at a party, actually i don't think it has much place anywhere considering all they rap about is how much money they got who and who they shot last night cuz they didn't give them their money! damn, i've never heard a bigger group of artists trying so hard NOT to keep it real. but hip hop goes perfectly over jungle ( i love freaky flow for this!) sometimes hip hop might bring a janky crowd of poeple, but who cares! maybe we can expose them to some of our music. raving shouldn't be exclusive. we shouldn't really exclude any type of music (because they can all go together somehow) and we shouldn't exclude any kind of person, unless their intent is to cause harm. hip hop is the best (i know a lot of you can feel me on this.) it's what i always listen to in the car ride home. whoever started this thread, i know it's your opinion that you don't think hip hop should be at parties, so i'm just giving you mine too :) much love, amber "i love the J-U-R-A capitol S another S-I-C 5 MC's in the flesh!" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 20:16:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3608 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 20:16:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 3435 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:16:23 -0000 Received: from law2-f108.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:16:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 78341 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 20:17:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429201701.78340.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:17:01 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:17:01 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >>When you first enter the Jackson venue there was a sign which said, "no >>whistles", that was cool =) > that sign has been up there forever! i love it. i think that it should be STRTICLY enforced! love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 20:26:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9314 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 20:26:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 9295 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:26:27 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:26:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429200946.24492.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.215.38] by web1; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:09:46 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: Re: Pimpdaddy 3 To: Naomi Thompson , 'Jess ica' , Nuku , "Macadio G." Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'll be spinning a downtempo set at *first light* on may 15 and def. be on the lookout for me to drop some hip hop influnced beats and maybe even some hip hop...i got some surprises up my sleeve, but u gotta come listen to find out what they are. :) micron ---Naomi Thompson wrote: > > > For what it's worth, I think it's refreshing to hear some hip hop at > parties!! I really enjoy it, it has a different beat from trance, house, > jungle, whatever and it IS fun to dance to!! I love it. I don't like the rap > stuff though, like 2 live crew, they shouldn't be played at rave type > parties. But I really enjoy the knowledge-dropping hip hop that they spin > sometimes!! it is a refreshing change from the "norm"!! > > Naomi > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 20:27:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10539 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 20:27:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 10362 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:27:05 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:27:05 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA07746; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:27:00 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: Patrick Seaton cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: <--------Genius at work In-Reply-To: <19990429193636.25358.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Patrick Seaton wrote: > It's the NEW Style. ;) > talking about old school (nevermind how i got here;-), remember the vocal sample that goes "it's the neeew styyyyyle, YEAH!" where was that from? anyone remember? b- ____ "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, and you will have his shoes." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 20:31:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14814 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 20:31:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 14805 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:31:06 -0000 Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (207.69.200.30) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:31:06 -0000 Received: from sfsrv (user-33qsq76.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.104.230]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA22486; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006c01be9280$64547b80$e668aec7@sfsrv> From: "Michael Bruton" To: "boing" Cc: "SF Dance Movement at large" Subject: Re: <--------Genius at work Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:39:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >talking about old school (nevermind how i got here;-), remember the vocal >sample that goes > >"it's the neeew styyyyyle, YEAH!" > >where was that from? anyone remember? > 4 and 3 and 2 and 1 (what up?) and when i'm on the mic, the suckas run.... (word...) Beastie Boys, The New Style, off of Licensed to Ill what a time that was... From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 20:48:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27568 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 20:48:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 27536 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:48:27 -0000 Received: from osiris.vegasquick.com (root@209.101.75.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:48:27 -0000 Received: from seker (seker.socalraves.com [209.101.75.16] (may be forged)) by osiris.vegasquick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA19108 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:44:54 -0700 From: "Vegas Rick" To: "'Sfraves@hyperreal. org'" Subject: This weekend Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:50:17 -0700 Message-ID: <004801be9281$e342e0c0$104b65d1@seker.t2000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm coming up tommorrow morning. What are the places to be for Friday and Saturday night? My girl is somewhat raveaphobic, so if there are any cool techno clubs, that would be ideal. A little help here? :) --Vegas Rick Losers always whine about "doing their best." The winners go home and fuck the Prom Queen. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 20:51:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1940 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 20:51:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 1928 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:51:51 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd107.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.171) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:51:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 92710 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 20:52:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429205212.92709.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.251.190.114 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:52:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.251.190.114] From: "ve anne" To: macadio@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Revise my hip-hop statement Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:52:12 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah speaking of WU-TANG... i don't think they're really E-compatible music... i'd rather listen to pretty melodic titanic trance while i'm eing balls. it's easier on the ears :) veanne From: "Macadio G." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Revise my hip-hop statement Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:27:31 PDT I guess I should have said Rap acts or miami bass sounding acts should not be at parties. I do enjoy hip hop and I do listen to it (I.E DJ Cam,DJ shawdow, Tupac, poor rightous teachers xclan,PE,KRS-1 etc) There is a difference between hip-hop and rap acts. I do listen to Jungle from time to time and find it to be a nice change of pace to trance and tekno but hell I listen to mix 106.5 most of the time or UB40 or George michaels greatest hits as well. I just don't think that a party is the place to hold a concert with acts like Ice- Cube,Wutang clan or any other rap acts of that sort. That is all I was trying to say not that I don't think Hip-hop should be at parties I just don't think some rap acts should be at parties. see ya, Macadio From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 20:57:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7491 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 20:57:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 7256 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:57:09 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:57:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429204030.185.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [207.126.114.243] by web1; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:40:30 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:40:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Bispo Reply-To: mercutio@cloudfactory.org Subject: Re: Revise my hip-hop statement To: ve anne , macadio@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey...hey...hey... nothing beats sitting back listening to M-E-T-H-O-D MAN while rolling.... dont knock till you've tried it. (just kidding) =)jer === Jeremy B. Bispo Member Support Specialist Cybergold, Inc. 2921 Adeline Berkeley CA 94703 510.845.5000 ext. 126 ---ve anne wrote: > > yeah speaking of WU-TANG... > i don't think they're really E-compatible music... i'd rather listen > to pretty melodic titanic trance while i'm eing balls. it's easier on > the ears :) > > veanne > > > From: "Macadio G." > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Revise my hip-hop statement > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:27:31 PDT > > I guess I should have said Rap acts or miami bass sounding acts > should not be at parties. I do enjoy hip hop and I do listen to it > (I.E DJ Cam,DJ shawdow, Tupac, poor rightous teachers xclan,PE,KRS-1 > etc) There is a difference between hip-hop and rap acts. I do listen > to Jungle from time to time and find it to be a nice change of pace > to trance and tekno but hell I listen to mix 106.5 most of the time > or UB40 or George michaels greatest hits as well. I just don't think > that a party is the place to hold a concert with acts like Ice- > Cube,Wutang clan or any other rap acts of that sort. That is all I > was trying to say not that I don't think Hip-hop should be at parties > I just don't think some rap acts should be at parties. > > see ya, > Macadio > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 20:59:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10852 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 20:59:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 10592 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 20:59:46 -0000 Received: from ns1.gp1holdings.com (root@209.31.236.49) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 20:59:46 -0000 Received: from [172.29.18.219] (toscana-209-79-56-111.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.79.56.111]) by ns1.gp1holdings.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17120; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:49:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990429120926.007ecd90@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:59:02 -0700 To: Carly Bourne From: jason Subject: Re: <--------Genius at work Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Instead of thoroughly checking every pocket of my pants before throwing >them in the washing machine... I accidentally washed pants + the ten flyers >in my back pocket from the last party. Did you know that a full color >flyer will magically transform into a pretty colorful dye when placed in a >washing machine??? Did you know that a leather wallet turns into a soggy black mess when you wash it? Kids, don't try this at home. Still shopping for a new wallet, Jason ....................... cognitive@iname.com "Homer no function beer well icq sucks without." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 21:25:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2863 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 21:24:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 2819 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 21:24:53 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 21:24:53 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3699) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKZUa07094 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:24:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:24:04 EDT Subject: Re: Revise my hip-hop statement To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/29/99 3:27:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, macadio@hotmail.com writes: << There is a difference between hip-hop and rap acts >> dont forget... hip hop is the culture...rap is the art of rhyme....so all those people that think that rap is master p and jay z and hip hop is mos def and mystik journeymen then your wrong...they all rap and they all are a part of the hip hop nation. DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 21:27:50 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5970 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 21:27:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 5956 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 21:27:48 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 21:27:48 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3699) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLMTa18253 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:26:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:26:19 EDT Subject: Re: Kung-Fu Line Up Question To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/29/99 3:48:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, montereypat@yahoo.com writes: << Wasn't there someone else before Machete??? Those are the two I'm sure of which is which. The first guy had a lot of hip-hop in his mix and then the other had an "elfish" appearance. Before anyone freaks, I happen to like elves. Which one of these two is Sage. Sorry I don't get to the Bay much. >> sage is tha tall woman with the short blond hair. she IS the best...yayayaya machete might have been the elf. i dunno??? DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 21:30:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7780 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 21:30:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 7653 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 21:30:01 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 21:30:01 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA21998; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:28:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ali-ca54-10.ix.netcom.com(209.110.237.74) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021822; Thu Apr 29 16:28:21 1999 Message-Id: <4.1.19990429142256.00bb2dc0@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: ascend@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:29:57 -0700 To: "Rafie" From: Greg Sandler Subject: Re: Saturday Night Fever Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <199904290026.RAA22362@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk At 05:29 PM 4/28/99 +0000, you wrote: >Sooooo...is anyone going to Harmony's disco party? Actually, it is not a Harmony party... It is a Harmonics Records Party. Sure there is lot's crossover and comparisons, but there is a difference. Harmonics is our Record Store, and we are doing these events to promote the store and our local Santa Rosa scene. Harmony is a much larger group of wonderful people that produce events to see just how far we can take the good vibes and promote the SF Bay Area as a whole! So it is the same family, just different intensions and a little different crew members... But the vibe is the same, and the music will rock you into another world!!! > >And this has prolly been asked, but are the DJ's gonna try and spin disco >and disco house, etc. records, or will it be normal music? It will of course be normal music, but I am sure that all of the djs have some disco tracks up their sleeves! It is going to be great!!! Peace and love, Greg= ) > >I'll possibly go...I'll wear my "disco camouflage" (aka "camo funk") pants! > >Yeah!!....!!!!! > >Rafie > >*ps. AMANDA!! Email me! Neither of us are ever home!! And I don't call your >house much because, um..yeah. > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 21:36:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12496 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 21:36:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 12399 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 21:36:22 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 21:36:22 -0000 Received: from Pneyu@aol.com (8034) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCBYa25653 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:34:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Pneyu@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:34:34 EDT Subject: Chemical Brothers in San Ho? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Netmail sub 2 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I saw this on the Astralwerks site: Sat. 7/10: Santa Clara County Fairgrounds - San Jose, CA located at 344 Tully Rd., San Jose, CA. Tickets: $25 Does anyone have more info? My friend heard a rumor that it's supposed to be a big event. Among others, Sasha & Digweed are supposed to spin too. Having grown up in San Jose (a city I love dearly, despite all its bad points), I would LOVE to see this happen, but I'm afraid that it's going to be a horrible, overcrowded, nonvibey, and depressing event. Anyway, any info is welcome. thanks, p From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 21:49:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26125 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 21:49:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25945 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 21:49:23 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 21:49:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA06094 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:49:20 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Music Music Music, whatever happened to glamour? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Here's some info on a special event. Have a nice day. Peace, AndyW *THE cloudfactory PROUDLY PRESENTS: *s/he*BANG - A FASHION PERFORMANCE (for the Fabulous) * *What: Food, Booze, cloudfactory Music and Sound, *eyecandy, low Fashion, high Kitsch. *Who: cloudfactory design collective *When: Saturday, May 15, 1999 *Time: Fashion Performance 7pm-9pm, Reception/Party *immediately following. *Where: 2050 Bryant St., Crucible Steel Gallery, San *Francisco, CA * *For More Information than you possibly need: *V-mail: 415.281.9432 *E-mail: cfdesign@cloudfactory.org *www.cloudfactory.org/s/hebang *Snail-mail: PO Box 2962, Oakland, CA 94609 * *Tix: $10 in advance/$12@ door *In the East Bay: * -Melissa (Melissa@cloudfactory.org, 252-2720) * -Cindy (puddin@bass-station.com, 510-536-3384 *In San Francisco: * -Lauren (lauren@signal11.com, 554-0387) *On Peninsula: * -Lacie (lacie@club.net, 650-627-9457) *Also, tix available at Something Else, 1603 Haight St. *@Clayton. * *s/he*BANG - An event so fabulous, we just had to *invite you! . From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 22:03:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11500 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 22:03:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 11337 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 22:03:23 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 22:03:23 -0000 Received: from BBoiBreks@aol.com (14379) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iFPCa25646; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:52:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BBoiBreks@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:52:56 EDT Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE To: kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sign to be created : No glowstiks No whistles No clapping No candy kids No bad dancers who swear that they're all that and take up half the floor space to show off moves that aren't there. All violators will be killed From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 22:04:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13101 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 22:04:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 12766 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 22:03:56 -0000 Received: from mail5.sirius.com (205.134.253.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 22:03:56 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok08--167.sirius.net [205.134.245.167]) by mail5.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA14331 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <038a01be9288$cad33740$a7f586cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "SFraves peeps" Subject: NRR car sub Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:39:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Q? Why do cars have more bass than some party's we go to? (I am not affiliated with this site or mfg. but it has a high drool factor for sub freaks like myself) http://www.earthquakesound.com/newprod1.htm A! Cars make the perfect subwoofer enclosure. The car, in effect, becomes a secondary speaker cabinet, creating what is termed "Cabin Gain". Cabin Gain average increase is 16 decibels and can be as high as 24 decibels. (ed note: you still need a properly tuned sub enclosure, just sticking a sub in your trunk wont milk the spkr for all the sound you can.) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 22:12:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22563 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 22:12:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 22274 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 22:12:16 -0000 Received: from web126.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.195) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 22:12:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429221237.5842.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web126.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:12:37 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:12:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Kung-Fu Line Up Question To: Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No Sage was the elf. She was magical. :) *HUGZ* pat --- Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > sage is tha tall woman with the short blond hair. > she IS the best...yayayaya > machete might have been the elf. i dunno??? > > DJMEGATRON:mechasoul > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 22:17:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29583 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 22:17:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 29372 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 22:17:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 22:17:02 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086P8AN>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:19:31 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AC27@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'BBoiBreks@aol.com'" , kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:19:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Did anyone go to All Play Together? -----Original Message----- From: BBoiBreks@aol.com [mailto:BBoiBreks@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 2:53 PM To: kandykid4@hotmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE sign to be created : No glowstiks No whistles No clapping No candy kids No bad dancers who swear that they're all that and take up half the floor space to show off moves that aren't there. All violators will be killed From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 22:18:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 985 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 22:18:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 696 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 22:17:56 -0000 Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 22:17:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429221714.24947.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:17:14 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:17:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE To: BBoiBreks@aol.com, kandykid4@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk plur man... --- BBoiBreks@aol.com wrote: > sign to be created : > No glowstiks > No whistles > No clapping > No candy kids > No bad dancers who swear that they're all that and > take up half > the floor space to show off moves that aren't > there. > > > All violators will be killed > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 22:39:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16780 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 22:39:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 16752 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 22:39:36 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 22:39:36 -0000 Received: from Gammbino@aol.com (7983) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJHLa15860 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:38:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Gammbino@aol.com Message-ID: <961baec1.245a395d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:38:21 EDT Subject: Disco Bizcuits To: Sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey I've heard how cool this is gonna be this Sat seen I can't go to ACID Breaks 3 cause of a Mom!! >=( I was wondering whats all the Info on this Party like the usual questions when where and what time. Thanks Alot Kent From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 22:49:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24998 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 22:49:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 24847 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 22:49:47 -0000 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.15) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 22:49:47 -0000 Received: from cruinc.com ([209.157.30.51]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id PAA24689 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:48:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3728E1C1.4DE17399@cruinc.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:48:34 -0700 From: RobinT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Subject: RE: Meeting Place @ UnderWorld Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Folks, did anyone ever determine a meeting place at tonight's UNDERWORLD? Myself, my boyfriend and a few friends of ours are heading out there to have some fun and hear some awesome tunes and we would love to meet some of you from the list! Please let me know! RobinT From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 23:02:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4206 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 23:02:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 3812 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 23:02:08 -0000 Received: from law2-f13.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (216.32.181.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 23:02:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 93881 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 1999 23:01:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429230142.93880.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 138.202.103.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:01:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [138.202.103.56] From: "LuSh SnOOpiE" To: tball@aspenmg.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:01:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Did anyone go to All Play Together? yeah, i went. i went to both ALLONE and ALL PLAY TOGETHER. IMHO, all play together was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than allone. it was in a nice small venue with some cool kids and cool music and cool decorations and a cool vybe. i loved it! love lia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 23:06:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10765 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 23:06:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 10471 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 23:06:11 -0000 Received: from www0l.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.41) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 23:06:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 24869 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 1999 23:06:08 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429230608.24866.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.41 by www0l via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Thu Apr 29 23:06:07 GMT 1999 Date: 29 Apr 99 16:06:07 PDT From: Stuart Sung To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: FWD: CALL (800-555-7794) FOR GAS PRICES TO GO DOWN X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I don't know if anyone knows about this... but our parents voted for this in 1978. So to undo this we need to call. Stuart Original message > > Hey Guys, > > > > > > I was ticked when I found this out. Apparently the reason that > California's gas prices are > > >so high is that California must get it's gas only from California > refineries. > > > If the energy coalition gets enough names they can have Gov. Davis > lift the ban on > > > interstate importing. I don't know if you know, but other states h= ave > much lower gas prices > > >than ours. I called and all you have to say is I want to complain > about the gas prices. They > >will say great, give me your name and zi= p > code and that's it. It takes less than one minute. > >They are going t= o > be reporting this to the Gov. pretty soon, so call and do us all the > favor. > > >Thanks, Tim (800-555-7794) > > > > > >Please Forward this on to as many people in CA. as you know. > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D There's only one success - Being able to spend your life your own way. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 23:18:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27413 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 23:18:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 27401 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 23:18:38 -0000 Received: from m16.boston.juno.com (205.231.101.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 23:18:38 -0000 Received: (from trigometric@juno.com) by m16.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9EKUUWX; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:17:55 EDT To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:38:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Meeting Place @ UnderWorld Message-ID: <19990424.013857.2878.0.Trigometric@juno.com> References: <3728E1C1.4DE17399@cruinc.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-24 From: Spiral of Evolution Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yup. I'm gonna be there with my girlie and Byroni. Keep an eye out for me. I'll be wearing khaki shorts with a velvet shirt and really short hair on top a head with the sides shaved. C Ya Triad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All times being relative; what time does Munich arrive at this train? --Nietzche On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:48:34 -0700 RobinT writes: >Hey Folks, did anyone ever determine a meeting place at tonight's >UNDERWORLD? >Myself, my boyfriend and a few friends of ours are heading out there >to >have some fun and hear some awesome tunes and we would love to meet >some >of you from the list! >Please let me know! > >RobinT > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 23:25:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4469 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 23:24:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 4425 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 23:24:53 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 23:24:53 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-198.dsp.com [204.118.76.198]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA01322; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:24:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199904292324.QAA01322@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:25:13 -0700 To: Stuart Sung , sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: FWD: CALL (800-555-7794) FOR GAS PRICES TO GO DOWN In-Reply-To: <19990429230608.24866.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Do you know *why* "our parents voted for this?" My understanding is that CA refineries are held up to tougher standards than the Federal standards, because pollution has traditionally been such a terrible problem. Cleaner gas = more cost to the refineries = more cost to the consumer = perhaps getting a little more mileage out of our lungs. Let's not get all Republican and treat the air as a renewable commodity over such a frivolity. Or fuck it, lets all drive SUVs with gas imported from Montana, 100 miles a day, and while we're at it buy up a redwood forest from a federal preserve and sell off the timber! Why not? Because 20 years from now someone will want to undo what their parents did, but it won't be so easy. Jessica At 04:06 PM 4/29/99 -0700, Stuart Sung wrote: >I don't know if anyone knows about this... but our parents >voted for this in 1978. So to undo this we need to call. > > >Stuart From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 23:33:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11215 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 23:33:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 10973 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 23:33:34 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 23:33:34 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (BayArea56k487.NetWiz.Net [208.164.208.87]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA23849 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904292333.QAA23849@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: drool (SRM-450 techno-lust and friend to renegade soundsystems everywhere) Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:33:59 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The SRM-450's here! SRM-450's here! 450 watts of biamplified active servo'd PA speaker w/ built in power amps. self contained. 50 pounds. This is going to make life easier for renegade throwers, and will probably sound a hell of a lot better than most systems you've heard so far. Very cool. Has anybody heard these yet? http://www.mackie.com/Products/SRM450.asp http://www.mackie.com/Products/Specifications/SRM450Specs.asp =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 23:45:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16354 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 23:45:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 16338 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 23:45:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 23:45:25 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086P817>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:47:54 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AC2F@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:47:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk What do I do? I am totally lost here. How does this whole mailing list work? I keep getting mail that I don't understand. I feel dumb. Can you help me? Tera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 23:56:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24673 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 23:56:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 24663 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 23:56:50 -0000 Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (209.185.123.18) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 23:56:50 -0000 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by hotbot.com; Thu Apr 29 16:56:11 1999 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Pneyu@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:56:11 -0700 From: "Matt Schwartz" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Chemical Brothers in San Ho? X-Sender-Ip: 17.128.200.81 Organization: HotBot Mail (http://mail.hotbot.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That would make sense as they're also performing at the Warfield sometime early July late June. -- On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:34:34 Pneyu wrote: >I saw this on the Astralwerks site: > >Sat. 7/10: Santa Clara County Fairgrounds - San Jose, CA >located at 344 Tully Rd., San Jose, CA. Tickets: $25 > >Does anyone have more info? My friend heard a rumor that it's supposed to be >a big event. Among others, Sasha & Digweed are supposed to spin too. Having >grown up in San Jose (a city I love dearly, despite all its bad points), I >would LOVE to see this happen, but I'm afraid that it's going to be a >horrible, overcrowded, nonvibey, and depressing event. Anyway, any info is >welcome. > >thanks, >p > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Apr 29 23:57:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25370 invoked by uid 6000); 29 Apr 1999 23:57:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 25361 invoked from network); 29 Apr 1999 23:57:30 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 23:57:30 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15834; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:59:17 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37288A8F.4E53A8BB@geocities.com> References: <36d29571.2459d322@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:59:20 -0700 To: urban_assault@geocities.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: terry estioko Subject: Re: Requesting info on the Honey Party? Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Virgin location, south of the bay area. $10. _Please_ respect the space and surrounding area. Info line - 408.682.3500 And now it looks like viberation and CF are teaming up on a TECHNOBEAM intelligent lighting setup at Honey. aw...yeah! -terry >BigM009@aol.com wrote: >> >> Does anyone have the location, time, and line up for the Honey Party? >> Bob-bee if your out there. Peace, M > > >Main Room: >9:00 to 10:00 A.L.E.R. >10:00 to 11:30 Ikon >11:30 to 1:00 Amber >1:00 to 2:30 Jeph >2:30 to 4:00 Andy W - Viberation >4:00 to 5:30 Joacman >5:30 to 7:00 Ryan Christopher > >Jungle Room: >9:00 to 10:15 Mike Wilson >10:15 to 11:30 dRONE >11:30 to 12:45 Meadow >12:45 to 2:00 Hak - Urban Assault / Solid Grooves >2:00 to 3:15 Siphon - Urban Assault / Viberation >3:15 to 4:30 Mark Clark >4:30 to 5:45 Pengo >5:45 to 7:00 Leath >_____________________ >S i p h o n >Urban Assault [99] >info: 408.882.5064 >http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 00:10:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3542 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 00:10:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 3530 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 00:10:51 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 00:10:51 -0000 Received: from OoNOTlKo0@aol.com (8059) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNCKa22708 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:09:51 -0400 (EDT) From: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com Message-ID: <3290aafb.245a4ec4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:09:40 EDT Subject: |X| NRR |X| random gibberish To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey all its been a while since i got online and when i came on today i had *GASP* close to 370 emails!!! YAY!!!! hehehe. i had to use mr. delete for the first time in days. but for some reason i kinda onl remember seeing alot of reviews and BSP's so i guess i didnt miss TOO much. gee i luv all this mail, it makes me feel important.. :P okie so i have two questions. 1) a while ago there was a LOREAL hair shampoo commercial and it had this really neato techno deep house song in the background. i thought it was made for the commercial and i would never hear it again. SUPRISE my older brother let me hear it a LONG time ago and now im dying for a fix. the only problem is that he said its by sasha.....that helps.... :P so now im on a quest for this song. its got this lady that says "madame's and miseurs (spelling?) blah blah blah blah..." alot of stuff in french :) and its really cooly. anyway if someone can direct me too some good sasha cd or this song (im praying on this one) gimme a email and ill give u a hug or sumpin. 2) i joost got a new birdy. hes a 3 yr old cockatiel and his name is....CYRUS...blah...i hate that name and am determined to find a good name for him. and i got to thinkin. why dont i let everyone else decide??? so come up with some names and ill choose the best one. hes kinda a little punk but hes gosh damned cute. so think think think and write me back. -aaron (ORION) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 00:22:05 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6861 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 00:22:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6853 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 00:21:59 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 00:21:59 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA14220; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:21:54 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: OoNOTlKo0@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: |X| NRR |X| random gibberish In-Reply-To: <3290aafb.245a4ec4@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 OoNOTlKo0@aol.com wrote: -&e->come up with some names and ill choose the best one. hes kinda a -&e->little punk but hes gosh damned cute. so think think think and write -&e->me back. Oh, in that case you better name him Herb!!! :P Or, you could name him Keoki, cause I bet your bird can't beatmatch either... AndyW From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:01:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23579 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:01:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 23571 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:01:13 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:01:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430005932.5029.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.214.184] by web4; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:59:31 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:59:31 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: Re: FWD: CALL (800-555-7794) FOR GAS PRICES TO GO DOWN To: Stuart Sung , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i hope that u guys all know that the reason that we can only use gas formulated in california is because it is formulated differently and is lower in emissions. I'd rather pay a higher rate for cleaner gas. The REAL problem is that the gas companies basically have an oligopaly (sp?) on the gas market in california and can basically charge what they want, what, are we really not going to buy gas until it goes up to like $2.50 or $3? I'd rather see the government regulate gas prices based on what it cost the oil companies to produce and to give them a reasonable margin of profit. we should call this number and tell them that we want gas prices regulated by the state or federal gov. instead. :) dan ---Stuart Sung wrote: > > I don't know if anyone knows about this... but our parents > voted for this in 1978. So to undo this we need to call. > > > Stuart > > Original message > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > > > > > I was ticked when I found this out. Apparently the reason that > > California's gas prices are > > > >so high is that California must get it's gas only from California > > refineries. > > > > If the energy coalition gets enough names they can have Gov. Davis > > lift the ban on > > > > interstate importing. I don't know if you know, but other states have > > much lower gas prices > > > >than ours. I called and all you have to say is I want to complain > > about the gas prices. They > >will say great, give me your name and zip > > code and that's it. It takes less than one minute. > >They are going to > > be reporting this to the Gov. pretty soon, so call and do us all the > > favor. > > > >Thanks, Tim (800-555-7794) > > > > > > > >Please Forward this on to as many people in CA. as you know. > > > > =========================================================== > There's only one success - > Being able to spend your life your own way. > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:06:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25544 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:06:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 25529 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:06:28 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd128.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.192) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:06:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 76311 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 01:06:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430010601.76310.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 159.37.7.57 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:06:01 PDT X-Originating-IP: [159.37.7.57] From: "Lucy Fur" To: montereypat@yahoo.com, Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Kung-Fu Line Up Question Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:06:01 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk and before sage, al simmons played. aka consuelo kevin. > >--- Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > > > sage is tha tall woman with the short blond hair. > > she IS the best...yayayaya > > machete might have been the elf. i dunno??? > > > > DJMEGATRON:mechasoul > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:08:29 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26566 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:08:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 26537 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:08:18 -0000 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (?5MnhphgoGFD8E8XlZSE14tMCKv9o1Z6Y?@128.32.43.52) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:08:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (maxmcc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/) via SMTP id SAA02506; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:08:10 -0700 (PDT) env-from (maxmcc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:08:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Max McCauley To: Lucy Fur cc: montereypat@yahoo.com, Megatron45@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Kung-Fu Line Up Question In-Reply-To: <19990430010601.76310.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yes, and I don't think anyone could possibly confuse big Al Simmons with an elf. Unless it was like the heavyweight champion elf. BOH. 10-4, duh, max On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Lucy Fur wrote: > and before sage, al simmons played. aka consuelo kevin. > > > >--- Megatron45@aol.com wrote: > > > > > sage is tha tall woman with the short blond hair. > > > she IS the best...yayayaya > > > machete might have been the elf. i dunno??? > > > > > > DJMEGATRON:mechasoul > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:09:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27372 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:09:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 27364 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:09:37 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:09:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430005255.14999.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web1; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:52:55 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:52:55 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: understanding SFR-ese To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---"Ball, Tera" wrote: > > What do I do? I am totally lost here. How does this whole mailing list > work? I keep getting mail that I don't understand. I feel dumb. Can > you help me? > Tera wEll, TErA, cAn u UnDErStaNd ThIs?????? sorry, coudln't resist. -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:22:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4783 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:22:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 4773 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:22:12 -0000 Received: from law-f92.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.155) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:22:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 26848 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 01:21:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430012144.26847.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.141 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:21:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.141] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Happy one got a gig! Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:21:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Unbelievable what happened to me last night. I was at upper Height and I got a page. A promoter friend of mine needed to know if he could use my sound system for a Friday night party, Lunar Enlightenment have you heard of it yet? Don't ask for the info line I have already forgotten that number DOH! Well, I said sure no problem, he added, and I am offering a DJ spot to the person who came up with the sound! I said what? Are you sure? He said, well, he had an open spot anyway and asked if I could fill it for him! Yes yes yes, are you kidding? Nope, he was not kidding, well folks, this is my first real gig out playing, I'm not on the flyer but there are more important things in life. So I may have gotten it simply because I had an amp and speakers and I am on at 6am in the morning, a gig is a gig is a gig. I did play at a house party about 3 weeks ago and may have been the avenue for which it was decided that I could play here, but still, this will be the first official gig for Dalen. I am soo happy right now, just thought I would share with everyone else. This is gonna be a fun night, not to mention its a fullmoon night too, extra special me thinks! Guess I had better get on the stick and make mass copies of my tape to hand out, or not. I don't expect many people to be hanging around at that hour but still, it's nice to be spinning at some other place than my bedroom! Just when I needed a boost, I was getting a little depressed there for a bit, like why did I bother buying tables and all? Whats the point if no one ever gets to hear what I have to play? Guess I got a little too philosophical for my own good! I guess I am also a very lucky person as I can gather there are some on this list who spin at home for a couple of years before ever getting a first gig, here I am, not more than 5 months after getting my tables and bam! Well, I have been spinning cds for the better part of 4 years before I went vynal so its not like I am doing this totally cold. Well, there it is, my happiness pased on to the rest of the community, more to follow btw. I have a booking in July at a campout, one of 30 djs and a possible on another. Life is looking good right now and I am having fun, after all, isn't that the point? Thank you Trevor for the boost, he may never see this so I will thank him in person on Friday night, if I have not thanked him enough already! For me, this is deffantly one for the history books, wonder if I should drag my dat out and tape my first ever gig? Hmmmm, maybe, maybe not, don't wanna place any more pressure on myself. Hopefully the sound system is enough for the area we are using, we shall see. Have a happy day, maybe see some of you at the party? Alex..................Dalen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:30:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8400 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:29:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 8391 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:29:57 -0000 Received: from f37.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.250.48) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:29:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 44737 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 01:30:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430013029.44735.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:30:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR: New Virus Warning Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:30:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk How to create a virus: 1. Think up a nifty name for your virus. Names such as "Good Times" and "It Takes Guts to Say Jesus" are good examples that people have used in the past. 2. Put together an email warning people about the virus with the name you made up. Claim credible organizations like IBM and AOL have verified the virus exists and that it is very dangerous. 3. Send the email to everyone you know with "Virus Warning" or something like that on the subject line. 4. Sit back and watch as your new (albeit harmless) virus spreads all around the planet. Wayne -- Get paid to watch ads: http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ALZ893 -- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:31:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9219 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:31:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 9210 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:31:24 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:31:24 -0000 Received: from WhrDaMud@aol.com (14372) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGKBa18255 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:30:52 -0400 (EDT) From: WhrDaMud@aol.com Message-ID: <901ec801.245a61cd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:30:53 EDT Subject: New Urban Legend To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this is the new legend going around i see Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth passing on..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing happening in communities as a gang initiation and such. If you care about anyone, please forward this to them immediately so they can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't read this, at least forward it to people. Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a police station, as a phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many phone calls pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen in the inner cities, and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It seems that a new form of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones as possible and put a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. This mixture is deadly to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed some people on the east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat poison and is easily separated from the rest of the chemicals. When mixed with LSD, it creates a substance that is easily absorbed into the human flesh, and highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a pay phone anywhere. You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at all. If you have any questions, you can contact me at the links listed below. Please be very careful. Let your friends and family know about this potential hazard. Thank you. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:32:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10996 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:32:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 10988 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:32:33 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:32:33 -0000 Received: from Derderf3@aol.com (8018) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vGETa08655 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:29:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Derderf3@aol.com Message-ID: <83ae9bb5.245a6189@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:29:45 EDT Subject: HI To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk All those going to HI.. say HIGH~!!!!!>.. Indeglo and I will be there... and, unlike at all play together).. i WILL have balloons.... Thus any from SFraves i would really like to meet you all~!!.... Come find me and say Hey!..... Of if you are just bored and want to email me "hi" you can do that too!!!! L8rs... Smyl-E From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:36:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12449 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:36:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 12440 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:36:10 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:36:10 -0000 Received: from Anachra@aol.com (14423) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uRADa04815; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:33:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Anachra@aol.com Message-ID: <8bb6bef3.245a6283@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:33:55 EDT Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE To: etraver@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SHIT! all this time i thought i was dancing and you mean to tell me i was just > Stumbling all over the place, bumping into people and flailing they're [sic] > arms everywhere, while they think that they're dancing. > hehehe damnit foo...give some dancing lessons then (: --spacey From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:44:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15655 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:44:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 15647 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:44:04 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:44:04 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (8052) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCVQa05683 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:42:51 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:42:51 EDT Subject: Re: New Urban Legend To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk It may be just me, but lets all tell Athiest John how to do this! Why spread this around and exspose this to people who might not know how to do this? But now they do dont they. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:55:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23162 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:55:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23067 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:55:08 -0000 Received: from ww183.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.83) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:55:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 188 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Apr 1999 01:54:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430015459.187.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.83 by ww183 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Fri Apr 30 01:54:58 GMT 1999 Date: 29 Apr 99 18:54:58 PDT From: Stuart Sung To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [Re: FWD: CALL (800-555-7794) FOR GAS PRICES TO GO DOWN] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Dang, after reading Jessica's response, I feel like I've a new bum hole to crap out of... Don't get me wrong I'm for a cleaner environment and all, I just don't want to pay $2 a gallon for something the oil companies screwed up on, or were they just unexplained 'accidents'. In any case, what Dan suggested is more down to earth. I guess I chose the wrong word to use "undo". Sorry, bad choice of word. Stuart =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." --Gandhi Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:55:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23800 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:55:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 23575 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:55:33 -0000 Received: from ns.ultimanet.com (HELO iceberg.ultimanet.com) (205.179.129.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:55:33 -0000 Received: from [205.179.129.9] (sprout.ultimanet.com [205.179.129.9]) by iceberg.ultimanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16072; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:57:23 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3290aafb.245a4ec4@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:57:23 -0700 To: AndyW From: terry estioko Subject: Re: |X| NRR |X| random gibberish Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Then again, if you often find him passed out in the morning, better to name him AndyW. :P :P -terry >On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 OoNOTlKo0@aol.com wrote: > >-&e->come up with some names and ill choose the best one. hes kinda a >-&e->little punk but hes gosh damned cute. so think think think and write >-&e->me back. > >Oh, in that case you better name him Herb!!! > >:P > >Or, you could name him Keoki, cause I bet your bird can't beatmatch >either... > >AndyW ------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@viberation.com http://www.viberation.com/terry From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 01:57:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24815 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 01:57:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 24805 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 01:57:16 -0000 Received: from mail5.sirius.com (205.134.253.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 01:57:16 -0000 Received: from hernancz (ppp-asok08--167.sirius.net [205.134.245.167]) by mail5.sirius.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA11866; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <042601be92a7$3f491360$a7f586cd@hernancz> Reply-To: "Good Sounds" From: "Good Sounds" To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" , "Niels P. Mayer" References: <199904292333.QAA23849@mail.netwiz.net> Subject: Re: drool (SRM-450 techno-lust and friend to renegade soundsystems everywhere) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:17:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk They have no bottom end :( Good news though, for 600$ more you can buy a powered subwoofer. Mackie bought the biggest best raw speaker manufac. R.C.F. The same speaker as are in EAW professional series(850, etc) woo! woo! They also have a powered mixer with the same face as thier famous mixers. On a differant note Carvin has a battery powered 100 watt speaker that will last 2 hrs at full blast, thinka that. Radio shack has a battery powered mixer, cd players are battery powererd. Who is going to throw a rave ontop Half Dome? Volume is not as neccasary when the surroundings are overpowering. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 02:11:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3210 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 02:11:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 3199 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 02:11:17 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 02:11:17 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA10893 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990429191511.007eb100@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:15:11 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Forwarding Etiquette PLEASE READ ME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay... I hate to be picky, but this is REALLY starting to get annoying. I get forwards all the time from this list as well as from friends, and almost everyone does the same thing: Automatically clicks the forward button and sends the message *AS IS* to hundreds of unsuspecting recipients. Do you know how annoying it is to scroll down through ten million headers and random addresses before getting to any text?? I should just delete the email the minute I see "Fwd:" in the subject line... but sometimes the info is funny, interesting, or important... so I usually end up scrolling and scrolling and ITS DAMN ANNOYING! So.... I have some real simple ideas for forwarding... these aren't original ideas, folks. Many people have been happily forwarding by these simple guidelines for quite sometime. 1. Simply cut and paste the body of the message into a new message... this prevents the message from looking like this: >>> If you don't >>forward this message >>> to ten million people by the time I can say >>Abra >ca >>>>dabra... you will self-destruct 2. MOST IMPORTANTLY: Delete the headers/email addys/personal notes/etc that were written by the person who sent the forward to you... that way, the body of the forward is the first thing the lovely recipients get to see, not ten million lines of gibberish. Okay... I hope this doesn't offend anyone... Just my humble opinion, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 02:19:49 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10145 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 02:19:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 10091 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 02:19:44 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 02:19:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430022445.18268.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.16] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:24:45 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:24:45 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: FWD: CALL (800-555-7794) FOR GAS PRICES TO GO DOWN To: micron , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk it is true that there is an oligopoly in the oil industry. but oligopolies are not necessarily a bad - contrary of a good. in the case of the oil industry, you have an oligopolistic industry because of the huge barriers to entry. it takes billions and billions of dollars to find, extract, and refine oil. thus you can't have new entrants, because it is costly - unlike an internet startup for example. and the costs are going up - oil is harder and harder to find. which is why you see the consolidation in the oil industry you see today - i.e., mergers and acquisitions with BP, Exxon, etc. the new wave of mergers and acquisitions is in response to higher costs and thus lower profit margins. those guys are not as bad as we think. loic --- micron wrote: > i hope that u guys all know that the reason that we > can only use gas > formulated in california is because it is formulated > differently and > is lower in emissions. I'd rather pay a higher rate > for cleaner gas. > The REAL problem is that the gas companies basically > have an oligopaly > (sp?) on the gas market in california and can > basically charge what > they want, what, are we really not going to buy gas > until it goes up > to like $2.50 or $3? I'd rather see the government > regulate gas prices > based on what it cost the oil companies to produce > and to give them a > reasonable margin of profit. > > we should call this number and tell them that we > want gas prices > regulated by the state or federal gov. instead. > > :) > dan > > > > > > ---Stuart Sung wrote: > > > > I don't know if anyone knows about this... but our > parents > > voted for this in 1978. So to undo this we need > to call. > > > > > > Stuart > > > > Original message > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > > > > > > > I was ticked when I found this out. > Apparently the reason that > > > California's gas prices are > > > > >so high is that California must get it's gas > only from California > > > refineries. > > > > > If the energy coalition gets enough names > they can have Gov. > Davis > > > lift the ban on > > > > > interstate importing. I don't know if you > know, but other > states have > > > much lower gas prices > > > > >than ours. I called and all you have to say > is I want to > complain > > > about the gas prices. They > >will say great, > give me your name > and zip > > > code and that's it. It takes less than one > minute. > >They are > going to > > > be reporting this to the Gov. pretty soon, so > call and do us all the > > > favor. > > > > >Thanks, Tim (800-555-7794) > > > > > > > > > >Please Forward this on to as many people in > CA. as you know. > > > > > > > > =========================================================== > > There's only one success - > > Being able to spend your life your own way. > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail > account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com. > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 02:25:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14031 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 02:25:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 14009 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 02:25:20 -0000 Received: from law-f64.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.127) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 02:25:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 61628 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 02:24:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430022453.61627.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 205.188.192.44 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:24:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.192.44] From: "Leo Walker" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: LEO: I'M BACK Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:24:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ok i don't mean to sound into myself but i'm very happy today cos i graduated high school like a month and half early. i'm just too happy. so i'm back in richmond. near berkeley. and umm i'm back. i was only gone 3 weeks and finished school in a week and a half. how dope. i'm so happy. well anyways. enough about me. i only missed one party. heck yah. even though i'm getting tired of them kind of. well anyways. love yall. LeO Get Your Private, Free Email at http://< From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 02:35:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20988 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 02:35:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 20942 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 02:35:45 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 02:35:45 -0000 Received: from Kitana3737@aol.com (7821) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFQWa25646 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:33:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Kitana3737@aol.com Message-ID: <1efb2a25.245a706b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:33:15 EDT Subject: nrr : i don`t know why.... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk wow.. this is *totally* not rave related but i just needed to say that right now i am SOOOOOOOOOO happy. i *really* don`t know why but i just am soo happy and its not one of those 3-second ephemeral happinesses..... its like been going thru me all day and night... what is up with that?? i don`t think i`ve ever felt so purely and supremely happy [without the aid of chemikalz.....] in a LOOOOOONG time..... and i have absolutely no explanation for it. nothing really in particular happened to catalyze it, but i`m not complaining! sometimes these unexplained bursts in feeling are the greatest eh?? i mean.... usually i`ll feel elated lilke this for about 3 seconds and then it`ll die away and i`ll be reminded of something else to bring down my mood u know? but this is great... *this* is just likle when i was little and i went to disneyland after months of anticipation and then on the day of and all through it i woudl have a fatass smile on my face... wow.... its making me happier just realizing how long its been since i`ve felt like this... :D sorry i knwo this is random but i can`t contain it and i feel like i have to share with someone...!!!! :) life so fickle i don`t understand it at all but i`m glad i ammmmmmmmmmmmm !! :) bye guys!! muchlove, ~*MiCheLLe*~ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 02:43:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25473 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 02:43:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 25448 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 02:43:05 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 02:43:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430024806.21366.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.180.76.16] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:48:06 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:48:06 -0700 (PDT) From: loic comolli Subject: Re: nrr : i don`t know why.... To: Kitana3737@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk this is funny. i feel exactly the same way. it's 740pm, i'm still at work, and yet i feel soooo great! it's been like this all day. and i think it's my third post today, a record! feeling good, loic --- Kitana3737@aol.com wrote: > wow.. this is *totally* not rave related but i just > needed to say that right > now i am SOOOOOOOOOO happy. i *really* don`t know > why but i just am soo happy > and its not one of those 3-second ephemeral > happinesses..... its like been > going thru me all day and night... what is up with > that?? i don`t think i`ve > ever felt so purely and supremely happy [without the > aid of chemikalz.....] > in a LOOOOOONG time..... and i have absolutely no > explanation for it. nothing > really in particular happened to catalyze it, but > i`m not complaining! > sometimes these unexplained bursts in feeling are > the greatest eh?? i > mean.... usually i`ll feel elated lilke this for > about 3 seconds and then > it`ll die away and i`ll be reminded of something > else to bring down my mood u > know? but this is great... *this* is just likle when > i was little and i went > to disneyland after months of anticipation and then > on the day of and all > through it i woudl have a fatass smile on my face... > wow.... its making me > happier just realizing how long its been since i`ve > felt like this... :D > sorry i knwo this is random but i can`t contain it > and i feel like i have to > share with someone...!!!! :) life so fickle i don`t > understand it at all but > i`m glad i ammmmmmmmmmmmm !! :) bye guys!! > > muchlove, > ~*MiCheLLe*~ > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 03:08:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7400 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 03:08:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 7392 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 03:08:12 -0000 Received: from web304.yahoomail.com (HELO send304.yahoomail.com) (205.180.60.186) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 03:08:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430031146.24581.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.105.89.198] by web304.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:11:46 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Miss E Subject: Re: KFK question: No Bailey?? To: SCiEnCe Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you missed a good night! everybody who played super rocked it and lemme tell you the bass was thumpin!! we were all definitely sad that baily could not make it, he stayed for kemisty's funeral service. can you blame him? headz up keep it real miss E --- SCiEnCe wrote: > Well if he wasn't there I don't feel so bad about > not going. > > -Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 03:11:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9272 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 03:11:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 9253 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 03:11:27 -0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 03:11:27 -0000 Received: from SpNkTrVisN@aol.com (571) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rRCFa21725; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:04:50 -0400 (EDT) From: SpNkTrVisN@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:04:50 EDT Subject: Re: Re: ¥¥¥ Hi! ¥¥¥ This Friday the 30th!!! bsp To: frynryan35@yahoo.com, sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org, vitaly@alldigitalclub.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk can someone say where hi is going to be at? ive heard sooo much about the location but a friend really needs to know cause her parents are tripping. hope to see you all there! -ever From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 03:21:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12928 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 03:21:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 12744 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 03:21:08 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 03:21:08 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (14373) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3JFWa16059 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:18:55 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <67793419.245a7b1d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:18:53 EDT Subject: VeryNRR: Kande Kid Gay boi drama... To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Anyone see jerry springer today?? OH NO SHE DIDN"T!!! god I love gay bois..... (don't worry! i went to school.. it was just the last 15 minutes of it) hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 03:59:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27896 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 03:59:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 27888 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 03:59:12 -0000 Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.78) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 03:59:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430035729.29454.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.86.220.227] by web4; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:57:29 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:57:29 -0700 (PDT) From: SCiEnCe Subject: Re: KFK question: No Bailey?? To: Miss E Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk ---Miss E wrote: > > you missed a good night! everybody who played super > rocked it and lemme tell you the bass was thumpin!! I've heard only good things on the party. Congrats! I was sorry to miss it. > we were all definitely sad that baily could not make > it, he stayed for kemisty's funeral service. can you > blame him? Absolutely not. I was surprised Rob didn't go back too. peace Science From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 04:14:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3968 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 04:14:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3960 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 04:14:08 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 04:14:08 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8000) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3LZSa24954 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:12:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <539a3551.245a87ab@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:12:27 EDT Subject: MM MArch has moved To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Kindly inform anyone you know that is planning on attending that the SF MMM and Rally is being moved to UN Plaza (located between Hyde and Market, 1 block east of SF's Civic Center Plaza). Also, the event's hours have been extended to 7pm. Kindly update all websites with the new information ASAP! HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 04:17:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4912 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 04:17:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 4898 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 04:17:42 -0000 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 04:17:42 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8000) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3BCVa07093 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:16:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: <1b771c65.245a889f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:16:31 EDT Subject: Million Marijuana march latest To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk MAY DAY IS JAY DAY! Come out to San Francisco! Stand up and march for the rights of millions of marijuana users! Let's get marijuana out of the closets and into the coffee shops! ANNOUNCING THE MILLION MARIJUANA MARCH AND RALLY! Medical Marijuana =95 Industrial Hemp =95 Pot Smoker's Rights =95 Drug Peace May 1st 1999 United Nations Plaza Gather for Rally at High Noon Pot Pride Parade at 4:20pm 'Dance for Pot' Party on the Plaza until 7pm! Fun for all! Speakers and Entertainment: Chris Conrad, BACH =95 Dale Gieringer, California NORML =95 Tom Ammiano, SF = City Supervisor =95 J. Tony Serra, well-known defense attorney =95 Mikki Norris, Human Rights and the Drug War Exhibit =95 Richard Evans, medical marijuana provider =95 David Ford, author of "Marijuana: Not Guilty As Charged" =95 Pe= te Brady, marijuana defendent and correspondent for High Times =95 Julia Carter= , the Drug Peace Campaign and More... MCs: The Woodnymph and Fantuzzi Live opening music provided by Ten Ton Chicken! Performances by The Toyes, Clan Dyken and Ungaio Bealum. 'Dance for Pot' Party and Sound System by Radio-V.com Featuring these well-known Psy Trance DJs: Rob Rayle (Sacred Dance Society, Koinonea), Tom (Koinonea), Tim (CCC) Drum Circle =95 Human Rights and the Drug War Exhibit Information Tables =95 Booths =95 Free Speech Platform =95 Acoustic Pot Song-a-Thon =95 Refreshments Available The Pot Pride Parade: Bring Signs, Banners and Costumes to join in the Pot Pride Parade starting at 4:20pm from United Nations Plaza. We will march from U.N. Plaza, turn right on Market St, then up Market to Van Ness and then down McAllister, right on Hyde back to UN Plaza. Volunteers: Volunteers are needed and appreciated. Anyone interested is urged to join us at an event orientation meeting at 11am near the main stage at UN Plaza on May Day. However, if you can't make the meeting and still wish to help out, please ask for Katie (or Julia) when you arrive at the event. For more info check back at our Website www.drugpeace.org/mmm or E-mail the organizers at: SFmmm@hotmail.com; You can also leave a Voice Mail on: (415) 971-3573 Click Here: http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm/mmmdirections.html for maps and directions on how to get to the SFMMM Event Sponsors and Organizers: The National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), Californians For Compassionate Use, The Drug Peace Campaign, The Business Alliance for Commerce in Hemp (BACH), Cures-Not-Wars, CAMP, Human Rights and the Drug War Exhibit, Radio-V.com, The Legalize! Initiative, Positive Solutions, Hemp Town USA, The Cannabis Action Network, C.H.A.M.P., Patients and Caregivers Health Center of San Francisco Click here to read the letter from the SF MMM Organizers! http://www.drugpeace.org/mmm/mmmletter.html We are expecting a large turnout at the San Francisco MMM and welcome supportive not-for-profit groups and organizations to have booths or information tables to accept donations and and distribute literature at the event in return for a nominal charge. Please contact Heather at MMMtables@aol.com for further information. Drug War or Drug Peace? Check out http://www.drugpeace.org From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 04:27:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9466 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 04:27:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 9329 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 04:27:07 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 04:27:07 -0000 Received: from XXxHaiLx@aol.com (3925) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLPUa04814; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:26:05 -0400 (EDT) From: XXxHaiLx@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:26:05 EDT Subject: Digital Dreams Free Party on Saturday 5/1/99 NOT FRIDAY To: sacraves@hyperreal.org CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Despite all the drama on this list. I am moving Digital Dreams, the thank you party to saturday 5/1/99 rather than having it on friday. Thanks to all who are in support of fuze productions i could never do it with out you. To all of you who have had disagreements with the party being on friday you could of contacted me personaly rather than posting your OPINIONS to the list, that would have been the RESPECTFUL thing to do. In fact as soon as i spoke to the other promoter i decided to move the free party. I personally think sacto has a big enough scene to choose what they would like to do on the weekend. Hope everyone can make it out there. LINE UP AS FOLLOWS simon apex vs dna dj rockit fuz-e just tom jimmy zimms jason who? info 916 484-5700 much respect - jason vassar fuz-e productions www.fuze.cjb.net From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 04:34:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12461 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 04:34:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12426 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 04:34:27 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 04:34:27 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA05532 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:34:25 -0700 Message-ID: <00ef01be92c2$f0c36300$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: Subject: Re: [Re: FWD: CALL (800-555-7794) FOR GAS PRICES TO GO DOWN] Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:35:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk solution-----> ride a bike preferably bmx.<------ :) just a naive tongue-in-cheek note from a girl who is just happy she got her ride bmx mag today, alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Sung To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Re: FWD: CALL (800-555-7794) FOR GAS PRICES TO GO DOWN] Dang, after reading Jessica's response, I feel like I've a new bum hole to crap out of... Don't get me wrong I'm for a cleaner environment and all, I just don't want to pay $2 a gallon for something the oil companies screwed up on, or were they just unexplained 'accidents'. In any case, what Dan suggested is more down to earth. I guess I chose the wrong word to use "undo". Sorry, bad choice of word. Stuart =========================================================== "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." --Gandhi Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 04:46:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16893 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 04:46:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 16877 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 04:46:29 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 04:46:29 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8000) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3VVNa08654 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:45:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:45:29 EDT Subject: Do you know what I look like. . . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just wondering, and trice helped me think too. . . What do you think I look like ? I was just wondering, I have pictures in my head from most of you all, but am I some skinny little tweaker dude, or like some big buffty dude. . . those like aren't your only choices. . . Have a good one. . . HUGZzzzz Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 05:25:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2524 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 05:25:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 2515 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 05:25:40 -0000 Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (207.69.200.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 05:25:40 -0000 Received: from sfsrv (user-33qsq2r.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.104.91]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA27394; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005301be92cb$1562de90$5b68aec7@sfsrv> From: "Michael Bruton" To: , Subject: Re: nrr : i don`t know why.... Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:34:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk full moon tonight... enjoy the modified brain chemistry; peak is friday at noon :) -----Original Message----- From: Kitana3737@aol.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 7:35 PM Subject: nrr : i don`t know why.... >wow.. this is *totally* not rave related but i just needed to say that right >now i am SOOOOOOOOOO happy. i *really* don`t know why but i just am soo happy >and its not one of those 3-second ephemeral happinesses..... its like been >going thru me all day and night... what is up with that?? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 06:04:47 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17200 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 06:04:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 17189 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 06:04:42 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 06:04:42 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com (14423) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vMYa016059 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:03:36 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: <11ef8c22.245aa1a9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:03:21 EDT Subject: Re: Do you know what I look like. . . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a really hard question.. It's like playing the Lotto, it's one in a=20 million to know what someone you don't know looks like, and especially=20 because no ones the same. I've had my thoughts about people but when I=20 actually saw them, they were WAY different them what I thought..lol ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 In a message dated 4/30/99 5:46:42 AM, Aryck46@aol.com writes: <> From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 06:31:31 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28300 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 06:31:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 28292 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 06:31:28 -0000 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 06:31:28 -0000 Received: from SanFrnRave@aol.com (353) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iTOLa24952; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:30:52 -0400 (EDT) From: SanFrnRave@aol.com Message-ID: <2c732e68.245aa81c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:30:52 EDT Subject: Re: LEO: I'M BACK To: leodrava69@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk who in gods name do u think u are spaming my arse like this...who are u?..why do i care if ur back or not? jesus christ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 06:41:16 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4791 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 06:41:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 4782 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 06:41:14 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 06:41:14 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (7813) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vYHKa15860 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:40:40 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: <36d70aa7.245aaa68@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:40:40 EDT Subject: Re: Do you know what I look like. . . . To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I doubt anyone would guess me, except for the people who have had the mis-pleasure of already meeting me. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 06:44:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7018 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 06:44:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 6890 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 06:44:43 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 06:44:43 -0000 Received: from SaMiENiTTy@aol.com (229) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vLBTa16141; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:44:12 -0400 (EDT) From: SaMiENiTTy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:44:11 EDT Subject: Re: Do you know what I look like. . . . To: BigM009@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/29/99 11:41:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BigM009@aol.com writes: > I doubt anyone would guess me, except for the people who have had the > mis-pleasure of already meeting me. Peace, M > i doubt anyone can guess what i look like also.... maybe i'm REALLY FAT! or maybe i'm this blond hair blue eyed person..its like, "life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get" (forrestgump) -Samantha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 06:47:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8773 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 06:47:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 8765 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 06:47:27 -0000 Received: from x15.boston.juno.com (205.231.100.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 06:47:27 -0000 Received: (from elias_smith@juno.com) by x15.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9FDKPB3; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:47:17 EDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:04:46 -0700 Subject: (SRR) Mark Farina's Mushroom Jazz vol. 7 & 8 Message-ID: <19990410.100447.-234311.0.Elias_Smith@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-4,9-53 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: the town drunk Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm searching for a copy of Mark Farina's Mushroom Jazz vol. 7 & 8. I had it about 4 years ago, and lost it. Mark Farina's Mushroom Jazz volumes are impossible to find now, except the one on Om Recordings. I have been looking for years and it is not available in any stores. If anyone has a copy of this tape, e-mail me please!! I'll wash your car, or take your dog on a walk, or do your homework, or do your laundry, or do your taxes next year, or repair your TV, or take your widowed grandmother out for a date, or pose nude for your painting class, or pay the mortgage on your house, or shut up. I'll do anything, just e-mail me. -galen <<-MegaHertZ->> <> http://www.MHz.nu 415-395-8448 We eat candy ravers for breakfast... ________ or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 06:55:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13347 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 06:55:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 13231 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 06:55:40 -0000 Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.72) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 06:55:40 -0000 Received: from Space201@aol.com (14388) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEWKa04814; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:54:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Space201@aol.com Message-ID: <7c09d2b7.245aadaa@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:54:34 EDT Subject: Re: LEO: I'M BACK To: SanFrnRave@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/29/99 11:31:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SanFrnRave@aol.com writes: << who in gods name do u think u are spaming my arse like this...who are u?..why do i care if ur back or not? jesus christ >> You don't know LEO man?!?! Where the hell have you been? Have you been living in a refridgerator this whole time?? Underneath a rock? In a cave? LEO man, it's LEO! hehehe. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 07:17:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26059 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 07:17:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 26046 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 07:17:28 -0000 Received: from attach1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.81) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 07:17:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430071057.17633.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.132.214.179] by attach1; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:10:57 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:10:57 -0700 (PDT) From: micron Subject: Re: FWD: CALL (800-555-7794) FOR GAS PRICES TO GO DOWN To: loic comolli , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk yeah, but oil refineries are making record profits while the independent/individual gas stations are making less and less. lets face it, the oil companies are greedy. There is NO justification for the gas prices being as high as they are, even with the recent refinery problems, which mind u were their own faults and now we are left with the repair bill and they get record profits. i think i smell some fish........ :) micron p.s. sorry, this is a sensitive topic with me. ---loic comolli wrote: > > it is true that there is an oligopoly in the oil industry. but > oligopolies are not necessarily a bad - contrary of a good. in the case > of the oil industry, you have an oligopolistic industry because of the > huge barriers to entry. it takes billions and billions of dollars to > find, extract, and refine oil. thus you can't have new entrants, > because it is costly - unlike an internet startup for example. and the > costs are going up - oil is harder and harder to find. which is why you > see the consolidation in the oil industry you see today - i.e., mergers > and acquisitions with BP, Exxon, etc. > > the new wave of mergers and acquisitions is in response to higher costs > and thus lower profit margins. > > those guys are not as bad as we think. > > loic > > --- micron wrote: > > i hope that u guys all know that the reason that we > > can only use gas > > formulated in california is because it is formulated > > differently and > > is lower in emissions. I'd rather pay a higher rate > > for cleaner gas. > > The REAL problem is that the gas companies basically > > have an oligopaly > > (sp?) on the gas market in california and can > > basically charge what > > they want, what, are we really not going to buy gas > > until it goes up > > to like $2.50 or $3? I'd rather see the government > > regulate gas prices > > based on what it cost the oil companies to produce > > and to give them a > > reasonable margin of profit. > > > > we should call this number and tell them that we > > want gas prices > > regulated by the state or federal gov. instead. > > > > :) > > dan > > > > > > > > > > > > ---Stuart Sung wrote: > > > > > > I don't know if anyone knows about this... but our > > parents > > > voted for this in 1978. So to undo this we need > > to call. > > > > > > > > > Stuart > > > > > > Original message > > > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > I was ticked when I found this out. > > Apparently the reason that > > > > California's gas prices are > > > > > >so high is that California must get it's gas > > only from California > > > > refineries. > > > > > > If the energy coalition gets enough names > > they can have Gov. > > Davis > > > > lift the ban on > > > > > > interstate importing. I don't know if you > > know, but other > > states have > > > > much lower gas prices > > > > > >than ours. I called and all you have to say > > is I want to > > complain > > > > about the gas prices. They > >will say great, > > give me your name > > and zip > > > > code and that's it. It takes less than one > > minute. > >They are > > going to > > > > be reporting this to the Gov. pretty soon, so > > call and do us all the > > > > favor. > > > > > >Thanks, Tim (800-555-7794) > > > > > > > > > > > >Please Forward this on to as many people in > > CA. as you know. > > > > > > > > > > > > =========================================================== > > > There's only one success - > > > Being able to spend your life your own way. > > > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail > > account today at > > http://webmail.netscape.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 07:34:17 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3852 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 07:34:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 3842 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 07:34:15 -0000 Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 07:34:15 -0000 Received: from Ezzm@aol.com (14390) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vURVa13007 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 03:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ezzm@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 03:33:38 EDT Subject: FOR GAS PRICES TO GO DOWN, know the facts] To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hello, hello. As far as gas in CA costing more because it is "cleaner". All that is is ADDITIVES in the gas that make the combustion process more complete. So thats why the cars in CA run cleaner right? WRONG. Cars in CA have the toughest Smog Check regulation in the US. They are built differently and have more emissions control equipment than cars from other states. That is why tey are cleaner. As for the additives, they make up a very small portion of the gasoline (say 1/1000th for example) so they only add half a cent per gallon to produce. The oil company then uses the "additive" as an excuse to charge 10 more cents per gallon. Of course with such slim profit margins this means mad bank. AND . . . these additives aren't that effective, remeber that stuff that decreased emmissions but also decreased engine performance and fuel efficiency. So pay more for cleaner gas but you have to buy more of it (see why oil companies like this?) Not to mention that particular additive was a cancer causing agent and it later turned up in the water supply. So all i can say is i WILL be calling (800-555-7794) and i will say that out of state gas should be allowed and that i want the bullshit to end. by the way: i'm no expert, so talk to a chemist or engineer about this whole additives thang if you wanna know the details. Da soopa ("shit, it's a dollar fifty, today!) Smak MO From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 07:41:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6358 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 07:41:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 6349 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 07:41:49 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 07:41:49 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c2 (mmf11.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.81]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA04746; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904300741.AAA04746@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: BigM009@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:44:26 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Actually, I'm not a filthy adolescent e-tarded candy trash, and I'm glad to say that I never was, either. I don't know if I never experienced rave trashiness because I'm lucky, or I am just non-trashy by nature, but the filthy e-tard stage really should be just that -- a stage. Unfortunately, it seems like waaaay to many people don't know how to move on and change, and they treat the rave experience as the disgusting drug-and-vomit-fests that you can witness any given weekend at 2nd & Jackson. When I talked about the new poster they should put up at that place, I was jus' bein thilly, but I really do mean it too. "No whistles" because everyone is too fucked up to whistle straight and doesn't know when to whistle and when not to, and that you don't do it in the DJ's face. I haven't heard any whistle skills for like a year "No lotion" because sure a lotion pile is amusing for a half a minute or so but it makes me sick to see thirty 14-yo's all molesting each other and all GONE, and completely absorbed in their damn drugs "No sex" cause ewww, sex is gross!! "No filthy adolescent e-tards" cause kids in Jr. High should be a) at a sleep over with their friends or something, b) not stunting their growth with drugs, and c) not at a freaking rave!! To add to that last part, I don't know WHO the hell that seven year old is that I've seen at parties smoking pot and prolly on mad other drugs, but that is TOTALLY fucked up and if he is with a sibling or something their bitchasses need to be beaten!! And, for anyone who does not know what I'm talking about, I am not exaggurating: SEVEN YEARS OLD. I know how to judge ages, my little sister is seven. k, bye Rafie BigM009@aol.com wrote... >In a message dated 4/29/1999 12:19:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >ballyhoo@uclink4.berkeley.edu writes: > ><< Bwaahha hahaha hah heh heh! That's funny...hm, that's a good idea. How > great would it be if everyone got to 2nd&Jackson/HomeBass/whathaveyou and > there was a biiig poster up with rainbows and butterflies that says, "No > whistles, no lotion, no sex, and especially no filthy adolescent e-tards" > and everyone was crying in front of it. I love it. >> > > >That would mean you couldnt go Rafie. And that would be a sad sad thing. >Peace, M > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 07:45:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8008 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 07:45:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 7988 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 07:45:15 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 07:45:15 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c2 (mmf11.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.81]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA01893 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904300745.AAA01893@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: "Rafie" Subject: 420 Kidz Sat. Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:47:52 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Question: Okay, I heard that 420 Kidz' Vibe Creation 2 this Sat. was postponed.. Does anyone know if it is rumor or not? Rafie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 08:02:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13855 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 08:02:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 13841 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 08:02:36 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 08:02:36 -0000 Received: from mmfpc-c2 (mmf11.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.91.81]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA09601; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199904300802.BAA09601@uclink4.berkeley.edu> To: BBoiBreks@aol.com From: "Rafie" Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:05:13 X-Tick-Nemesis: Chairface Chippendale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > No glowstiks I think they're fine if people keep em to themselves or whatever..It's just dizamn annoying to have someone come up and be like "whoa, man, watch this!!" and force your eyes closed with their dirty fingers and press them on your face, and you humor them and go "wow that was neat, now I have to go" but they do it again and start flailing their arms around your head and like rubbing you and stuff > No candy kids I think you mean "No candy from the gutter (ie, Paul*E*Wog)" > All violators will be killed ROFL!!! Rafie PS I HATE TERM PAPERS PPS I HATE CAFFEINE WITHDRAWAL TOO *twitch* From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 08:29:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19767 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 08:29:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 19739 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 08:29:20 -0000 Received: from m1.jersey.juno.com (209.67.33.60) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 08:29:20 -0000 Received: (from supahstah@juno.com) by m1.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id D9FKCZ7T; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:28:31 EDT To: etraver@ix.netcom.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:00:39 -0700 Subject: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE Message-ID: <19990430.012753.-521283.0.supahstah@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Super Star Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk you said: <> yeah, i hate it when people like my style. geez, don't be so angry. i think that compliments are a nice gesture. i like them. and if you don't, just say "thank you" and move on. i don't think anyone was intending to bug you. or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 08:33:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21461 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 08:33:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 21451 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 08:33:31 -0000 Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.73) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 08:33:31 -0000 Received: from XRictusx@aol.com (14395) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWYNa15859; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:32:43 -0400 (EDT) From: XRictusx@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:32:43 EDT Subject: Encounters of the Cyberfest kind was Re: Chemical Brothers in San Ho? To: Pneyu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk one day I was in my room checking my email(200 from sfr) and one of my sister's friends(whom I've never met before) comes up and starts talking to me. She was quick to point out that I rave and she was all like "I'm gonna be promoting for a rave soon" So, stepping into this trap I asked which rave. She replied "cyberfest" first thing popped into my mind was it's gonna be a KMEL Jams rave, but then she asked if I liked The crystal Method or Chemical Brothers cause they r gonna spin there. Needless to say I wanted to see a flyer for this baby, she said they didn't have flyers yet................... I don't know about u all, but I'll believe it when I see it, can we say MASSIVE massive, just thought I'd share ;] PLUR, Ryan From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 08:54:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29562 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 08:54:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 29390 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 08:54:49 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 08:54:49 -0000 Received: from JUNGurlE@aol.com (8050) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCMFa05684; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:54:16 -0400 (EDT) From: JUNGurlE@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:54:15 EDT Subject: Re: Encounters of the Cyberfest kind was Re: Chemical Brothers in SanHo? To: XRictusx@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Can we say the cyberfest flyers are out.. my friend has one.. i'll find out if they are on there or not.. <3 amber r From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 09:41:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24547 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 09:41:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24502 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 09:41:35 -0000 Received: from wya-lfd110.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.252.174) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 09:41:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12559 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 09:41:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430094107.12558.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.195.112 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:41:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.195.112] From: "dj _haK" To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: MORE Re: New Urban Legend Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:41:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk with a little oatmeal and enuf speed, one can spread a paste-like mixture on unsuspecting peeps toilet seats. man do you high! i heard that fifteen people died in germany from this. believe me. i work at a record store. hak urban_assault[99] info:408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 09:43:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4270 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 09:43:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 4082 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 09:43:41 -0000 Received: from wya-oe15.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.80) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 09:43:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 71421 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 09:44:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430094416.71420.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.195.112 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:44:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.195.112] From: "dj _haK" To: Aryck46@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: too stoned, dood!!!Re: Million Marijuana march latest Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:44:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk dood, i'd go, but i'm so stoned i can't find my car keys. can someone send me over some jack'nthebox? i want those round things... hak urban_assault[99] info:408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 09:44:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5526 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 09:44:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 5354 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 09:44:00 -0000 Received: from ratty.wolfe.net (HELO wolfenet.com) (204.157.98.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 09:44:00 -0000 Received: from agony.wolfenet.com (tac-p1-14.wolfenet.com [206.159.18.61]) by wolfenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA29621 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990430024214.006c4194@popserv.wolfenet.com> X-Sender: syoung@popserv.wolfenet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:42:14 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Stephen Young Subject: Cyberfest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The promoter's are Cool World, here is their URL. It doesn't have much info yet but it does say The Chemical Brothers. http://www.coolworldprod.com/upcoming/index.html BTW - I hope everyone is planning on attending the Children of the Sun party. It should be a VERY vibey shin-dig! ---> Bay Area Location 9pm - 6am??? Very Limited Capacity sound by: Mutor visuals by: Viberation Free Lemonade & Fruit Phatty Vibe The line up for this party is as follows: Brad - Moontribe / LA (Special 2 Hour Set!) Beatseed "LIVE" - Journees / Seattle Greg Sandler / Harmony andyW / Viberation Macadio / First Light Micron / Viberation Ambient Room TBA.... -Stephen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 15:37:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11794 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 15:37:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 11786 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 15:37:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 15:37:43 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086P8S3>; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:40:04 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AC37@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:39:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk PLEASE DON'T BUY GAS TODAY! I SAW ALL THESE PEOPLE BUYING GAS THIS MORNING AND I GOT SO ANGRY! I STARTED HONKING AT THEM BUT THEY DIDN'T GET IT! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:00:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26160 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:00:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 26045 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 15:59:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 15:59:56 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086P842>; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:02:26 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AC3E@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: Honey Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:02:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Who is going to Honey? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:05:37 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 632 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:05:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 620 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:05:33 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:05:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430154851.17426.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.33.185] by web1; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:48:51 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:48:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Re: New Urban Legend To: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. without strychnine the LSD would slip off the blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts everytime you take a blotter hit. stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up permanently, freedom of choice, is what you got. joaqman ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this is the new legend going > around i see > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth passing on..... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing happening in communities > as a gang initiation and such. If > you care about anyone, please forward this to them immediately so they > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't read this, at least > forward it to people. > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a police station, as a > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many phone calls > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen in the inner cities, > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It seems that a new form > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones as possible and put > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. This mixture is deadly > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed some people on the > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat poison and is easily > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When mixed with LSD, it > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into the human flesh, and > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a pay phone anywhere. > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at all. If you have any > questions, you can contact me at the links listed below. Please be very > careful. Let your friends and family know about this potential hazard. > Thank you. > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:13:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6803 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:13:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 6663 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:13:51 -0000 Received: from mail.dsp.com (199.4.121.210) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:13:51 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (icg-204.dsp.com [204.118.76.204]) by mail.dsp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA10825; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:13:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199904301613.JAA10825@mail.dsp.com> X-Sender: jessicaw@wgdsearch.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:14:12 -0700 To: Joaqman , WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Jessica Webster Subject: Re: New Urban Legend In-Reply-To: <19990430154851.17426.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk And look out for them maraschino cherries! Formaldehyde, yum... Jessica At 08:48 AM 4/30/99 -0700, Joaqman wrote: >strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. >without strychnine the LSD would slip off the >blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you >ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts >everytime you take a blotter hit. > >stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up >permanently, >freedom of choice, is what you got. > >joaqman > > > > > >---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: >> >> sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this >is the new legend going >> around i see >> >> Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth >passing on..... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing >happening in communities >> as a gang initiation and such. If >> you care about anyone, please forward this to them >immediately so they >> can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't >read this, at least >> forward it to people. >> Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a >police station, as a >> phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many >phone calls >> pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen >in the inner cities, >> and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It >seems that a new form >> of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones >as possible and put >> a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. >This mixture is deadly >> to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed >some people on the >> east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat >poison and is easily >> separated from the rest of the chemicals. When >mixed with LSD, it >> creates a substance that is easily absorbed into >the human flesh, and >> highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a >pay phone anywhere. >> You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at >all. If you have any >> questions, you can contact me at the links listed >below. Please be very >> careful. Let your friends and family know about >this potential hazard. >> Thank you. >> >> > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:16:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9223 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:16:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 9050 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:16:14 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:16:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430161648.22909.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web135.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:16:48 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Honey To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wanted to go, living in Monterey and all, but I have to go to a B-Day up in Sac. It figures. Something good finally here and I can't be here for it. :( *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:16:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9357 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:16:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 9058 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:16:14 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:16:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430161648.22913.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web135.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:16:48 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: Honey To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wanted to go, living in Monterey and all, but I have to go to a B-Day up in Sac. It figures. Something good finally here and I can't be here for it. :( *HUGZ* pat From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:18:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13564 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:18:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 13279 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:18:29 -0000 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:18:29 -0000 Received: from Candida29@aol.com (3700) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iPYNa02301; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:07:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Candida29@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:07:09 EDT Subject: NRR:from candy To: gambit_92@hotmail.com, aaron_brewer@excite.com, m1k3e2@pacbell.net, MariGalvez@aol.com, redwolf@sierra.net, mmlam@ucdavis.edu, donnamarie48@hotmail.com, madonnar@mindspring.com, Hcjschu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i just want to remind everyone....DON'T GET GAS TODAY!!!!!!!! for those of you who think that this is not going to make the gas companies bring down their prices, this "great gas out" was on the news last night too. they said it wouldn't hurt the individual gas stations too much BUT it is about taking a stand to corporate america and letting them know that we can all stick together for what we believe in. it is the american way so if you believe in standing up for what is right, for the little people, then please participate and DON'T GET GAS TODAY!!! thanx love & lollipops, candy From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:19:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14667 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:19:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 14580 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:19:03 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:19:03 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id JAA05280; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:18:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904301618.JAA05280@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: New Urban Legend To: jakeloco@rocketmail.com (Joaqman) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990430154851.17426.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> from "Joaqman" at Apr 30, 99 08:48:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am afraid you don't know what you are talking about. There is no strychinine in acid... even in blotters. Acid in its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into water to make the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into paper, the water evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. -troy > > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > everytime you take a blotter hit. > > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > permanently, > freedom of choice, is what you got. > > joaqman > > > > > > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > is the new legend going > > around i see > > > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > passing on..... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > happening in communities > > as a gang initiation and such. If > > you care about anyone, please forward this to them > immediately so they > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > read this, at least > > forward it to people. > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > police station, as a > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > phone calls > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > in the inner cities, > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > seems that a new form > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > as possible and put > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > This mixture is deadly > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > some people on the > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > poison and is easily > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > mixed with LSD, it > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > the human flesh, and > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > pay phone anywhere. > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > all. If you have any > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed > below. Please be very > > careful. Let your friends and family know about > this potential hazard. > > Thank you. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:24:04 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18135 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:24:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 18112 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:24:01 -0000 Received: from web129.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.198) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:24:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430162436.29856.rocketmail@web129.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.185.131.147] by web129.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:24:36 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:24:36 -0700 (PDT) From: chrisP Subject: Re: (NRR) Do you know what I look like. . . . To: BigM009@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --- BigM009@aol.com wrote: > I doubt anyone would guess me, except for the people who have had the > mis-pleasure of already meeting me. Peace, M Um, I'd guess you look like a Big "N" but with an extra hump at the end... Oh yeah, alphabetical humor... chrisp From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:41:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28695 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:41:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 28682 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:41:34 -0000 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:41:34 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (328) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rNOIa05685; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:25:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:25:34 EDT Subject: Re: (NRR) Do you know what I look like. . . . To: chrispeee@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That was pretty cool. Thanks. And actually thats a pretty close visual. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:47:03 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3399 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:47:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 3389 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:47:00 -0000 Received: from web1.rocketmail.com (205.180.57.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:47:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430163020.25887.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Received: from [206.170.33.215] by web1; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:30:20 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Joaqman Subject: Re: New Urban Legend, apology To: Troy Sheets Cc: WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i'm sorry i spread another urban legend. i heard that strychnine on blotter story from someone that i thought was trustworthy. apparently, i was wrong. i must have been on acid at the time ;). i guess i was reacting against the original urban legend. i don't like it when people tell stories about gang initiation or the like. i don't believe them and i don't like stories that spread fear. although in my moment of emotional reaction, i guess i was guilty of not checking my facts before i spoke. i hope i have not offended you all, joaqman ---Troy Sheets wrote: > > > I am afraid you don't know what you are talking about. > > There is no strychinine in acid... even in blotters. Acid in > its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into water to make > the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into paper, the water > evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. > > -troy > > > > > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > > everytime you take a blotter hit. > > > > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > > permanently, > > freedom of choice, is what you got. > > > > joaqman > > > > > > > > > > > > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > > is the new legend going > > > around i see > > > > > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > > passing on..... > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > > happening in communities > > > as a gang initiation and such. If > > > you care about anyone, please forward this to them > > immediately so they > > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > > read this, at least > > > forward it to people. > > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > > police station, as a > > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > > phone calls > > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > > in the inner cities, > > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > > seems that a new form > > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > > as possible and put > > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > > This mixture is deadly > > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > > some people on the > > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > > poison and is easily > > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > > mixed with LSD, it > > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > > the human flesh, and > > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > > pay phone anywhere. > > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > > all. If you have any > > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed > > below. Please be very > > > careful. Let your friends and family know about > > this potential hazard. > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:52:11 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5717 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:52:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5698 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:52:06 -0000 Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:52:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430165611.27261.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:56:11 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: too stoned, dood!!!Re: Million Marijuana march latest To: dj_hak@hotmail.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk its a stoner thang. you wouldnt understand. actually its about a lot more than just getting stoned and dancing around ( not as if thats not ok) but its also about how hemp can help our planet more than you will ever know if you dont know then you should know. i hate jack in the box. Jessica --- dj _haK wrote: > dood, i'd go, but i'm so stoned i can't find my car > keys. can someone send > me over some jack'nthebox? i want those round > things... > > > hak > > urban_assault[99] > info:408.882.5064 > http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault/ > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 16:56:21 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7969 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 16:56:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 7886 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 16:55:48 -0000 Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (root@130.212.10.167) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 16:55:48 -0000 Received: from nuku (madmax-187.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.187]) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA10602; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990430152926.007144b4@apollo.sfsu.edu> X-Sender: nuku@apollo.sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:29:26 -0500 To: Joaqman From: Nuku Subject: Re: New Urban Legend, apology Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Well we all do stupid shit at times, so we'll just chalk this up to one of the times yoiu did sumtin stupid :) Nuttin but love from this corner, hehe Proly cuz it's friday and i just got fired from my job and i ain't got nuttin to do....(movie ref, which by the way is somewhat appropiate considering tommorrow is mm march) anyhoo Enjoy the friday sun and whatever party you choose tor not choose to enjoy tonite. Nuku is Eddie, Eddie is Nuku; Nuku At 09:30 AM 4/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >i'm sorry i spread another urban legend. i heard >that strychnine on blotter story from someone that i >thought was trustworthy. apparently, i was wrong. i >must have been on acid at the time ;). i guess i was >reacting against the original urban legend. > >i don't like it when people tell stories about gang >initiation or the like. i don't believe them and i >don't like stories that spread fear. > >although in my moment of emotional reaction, i guess >i was guilty of not checking my facts before i spoke. > >i hope i have not offended you all, >joaqman > > > > > >---Troy Sheets wrote: >> >> >> I am afraid you don't know what you are talking >about. >> >> There is no strychinine in acid... even in >blotters. Acid in >> its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into >water to make >> the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into >paper, the water >> evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. >> >> -troy >> >> > >> > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. >> > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the >> > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you >> > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts >> > everytime you take a blotter hit. >> > >> > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up >> > permanently, >> > freedom of choice, is what you got. >> > >> > joaqman >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: >> > > >> > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this >> > is the new legend going >> > > around i see >> > > >> > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth >> > passing on..... >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing >> > happening in communities >> > > as a gang initiation and such. If >> > > you care about anyone, please forward this to >them >> > immediately so they >> > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't >> > read this, at least >> > > forward it to people. >> > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a >> > police station, as a >> > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received >many >> > phone calls >> > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has >arisen >> > in the inner cities, >> > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It >> > seems that a new form >> > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay >phones >> > as possible and put >> > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. >> > This mixture is deadly >> > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has >killed >> > some people on the >> > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat >> > poison and is easily >> > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When >> > mixed with LSD, it >> > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into >> > the human flesh, and >> > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are >using a >> > pay phone anywhere. >> > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use >one at >> > all. If you have any >> > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed >> > below. Please be very >> > > careful. Let your friends and family know about >> > this potential hazard. >> > > Thank you. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> tsheets@saturn5.com <- You >have found me >> http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my >.mp3 tracks >> http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey >Kasem in rare form >> > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 17:03:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13730 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 17:03:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13706 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 17:03:26 -0000 Received: from web135.yahoomail.com (205.180.60.20) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 17:03:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430170355.1157.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.120.103.201] by web135.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:03:55 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:03:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick Seaton Subject: Re: too stoned, dood!!!Re: Million Marijuana march latest To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Don't let Jack hear you say that. He'll come over your house and chase you down then shove a burger down your throat while kneeling on your spine. ;) *HUGZ* pat --- Jess ica wrote: > i hate jack in the box. > Jessica > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 17:08:30 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16153 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 17:08:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 16144 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 17:08:23 -0000 Received: from mosheshwe.cs.berkeley.edu (128.32.131.85) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 17:08:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (davidp@localhost) by mosheshwe.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA01925 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:49:11 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: mosheshwe.cs.berkeley.edu: davidp owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:49:11 +0000 ( ) From: David Parks cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: NRR:from candy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 Candida29@aol.com wrote: > i just want to remind everyone....DON'T GET GAS TODAY!!!!!!!! I've interjected some childishness for your amusement. I do that sometimes :-) > it is the american way so if you believe in > standing up for what is right, for the little people, then please participate > and DON'T GET GAS TODAY!!! (This is the last one I *promise* :-) I thought the American way was chili and beans and ... - David seriously... don't get gas today. save the environment! spare the air! HAHAHAHA!!!! (I cant take anything seriously at 10a) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 17:21:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28412 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 17:21:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 28370 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 17:21:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aspen.sc-intl.com) (207.218.171.40) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 17:21:11 -0000 Received: by ASPEN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2086P85T>; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:23:40 -0700 Message-ID: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AC4B@ASPEN> From: "Ball, Tera" To: "'SFRaves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: honey Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:23:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone need a ticket for Honey tonight? My friend just found out she can't go. Let me know. Thanks Tera From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 17:24:00 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 519 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 17:23:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 340 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 17:23:25 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 17:23:25 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA16149; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA01261; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:55:24 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: XRictusx@aol.com cc: Pneyu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Encounters of the Cyberfest kind was Re: Chemical Brothers in San Ho? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think your sister's friend is confused (unless this happened before halloween 98) because didn't cyberfest already happen? or are they really having another? hmm... amber :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 17:51:02 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16071 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 17:51:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 16061 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 17:51:00 -0000 Received: from f134.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.13) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 17:51:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 40590 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 17:51:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430175114.40589.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.238.243 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:51:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.238.243] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: jakeloco@rocketmail.com, WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Nrr: Urban legend Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:51:14 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk That type of initiation, the type that most inner city gangs or chapters thereof that have surfaced in their surrounding sub-urb's, I think, is quite prevalent. The rumermill always gives us examples that have to do with runniung the Public Access portion of "the lab". So the post about telephone dosages is quite scary. ___ Perhaps we should all start carrying packets of niacin around so as to counteract the unpleasantness of on unwanted manifestation of the great white light? going... going... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 17:54:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20235 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 17:54:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 20173 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 17:54:35 -0000 Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.8) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 17:54:35 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com (7984) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNQa016141 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:53:36 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: <94e9bd76.245b4806@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:53:10 EDT Subject: B.S.P Have a Nice Rave-Bryan Lee To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everybody, for anyone going down to the LA area or for hose of you that are already in So Cal. Im playing at a party called Have a Nice Rave. Its a record release party for Christohpher Lawrence. I always run into somebody from the Bay area when I play in LA so I hope to see someone there, Otherwise I'll see you guys tomorrow at Vibe Creation 2 Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 17:58:23 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22187 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 17:58:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 22179 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 17:58:17 -0000 Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (158.140.2.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 17:58:17 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id KAA18436; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM(158.140.128.33) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma925494864.018429; Fri, 30 Apr 99 10:54:24 -0700 Received: from geocities.com (d15814038120 [158.140.38.120]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05428; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3729EE60.B30E7890@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:54:40 -0700 From: Siphon Reply-To: urban_assault@geocities.com Organization: Urban Assault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves Subject: Ninja Tune's "ColdCut" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yo. To all you peeps out there sitting at a desk and waiting for the weekend to come around check this out and veg to the sounds of.... -- NINJATUNE'S COLDCUT, experimenting with hypnotic audio video synchronicity in an exclusive performance at Irving Plaza in New York City. http://www.pseudo.com/specials/coldcut/high.ram Hak & Siphon @ Honey April 30th Hak & Siphon @ Acid Breaks May 1st _____________________ S i p h o n Urban Assault [99] info: 408.882.5064 http://www.geocities.com/~urban_assault From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:07:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 744 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:07:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 735 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:07:46 -0000 Received: from heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:07:46 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by heinlein.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA15396; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id NAA05529; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:41:03 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: Troy Sheets cc: Joaqman , WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: New Urban Legend In-Reply-To: <199904301618.JAA05280@atari.saturn5.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk then what causes poeple to feel really achy in their bones, muscles and back when they eat paper, but not liquid? amber On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Troy Sheets wrote: > I am afraid you don't know what you are talking about. > > There is no strychinine in acid... even in blotters. Acid in > its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into water to make > the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into paper, the water > evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. > > -troy > > > > > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > > everytime you take a blotter hit. > > > > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > > permanently, > > freedom of choice, is what you got. > > > > joaqman > > > > > > > > > > > > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > > is the new legend going > > > around i see > > > > > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > > passing on..... > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > > happening in communities > > > as a gang initiation and such. If > > > you care about anyone, please forward this to them > > immediately so they > > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > > read this, at least > > > forward it to people. > > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > > police station, as a > > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > > phone calls > > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > > in the inner cities, > > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > > seems that a new form > > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > > as possible and put > > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > > This mixture is deadly > > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > > some people on the > > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > > poison and is easily > > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > > mixed with LSD, it > > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > > the human flesh, and > > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > > pay phone anywhere. > > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > > all. If you have any > > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed > > below. Please be very > > > careful. Let your friends and family know about > > this potential hazard. > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:16:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6705 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:16:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 6694 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:16:02 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:16:02 -0000 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) id LAA10408; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199904301810.LAA10408@atari.saturn5.com> Subject: Re: New Urban Legend To: akp2@duke.edu (MacBunny) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tsheets@saturn5.com, jakeloco@rocketmail.com, WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: from "MacBunny" at Apr 30, 99 01:41:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk There is blotter that is silky smooth... there is liquid that is speedy... There are different qualities of acid out there... Any aches someone may experience is related to the quality.. not what it was distributed on... -troy > > then what causes poeple to feel really achy in their bones, muscles and > back when they eat paper, but not liquid? > > amber > > On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Troy Sheets wrote: > > > I am afraid you don't know what you are talking about. > > > > There is no strychinine in acid... even in blotters. Acid in > > its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into water to make > > the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into paper, the water > > evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. > > > > -troy > > > > > > > > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > > > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > > > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > > > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > > > everytime you take a blotter hit. > > > > > > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > > > permanently, > > > freedom of choice, is what you got. > > > > > > joaqman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > > > is the new legend going > > > > around i see > > > > > > > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > > > passing on..... > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > > > happening in communities > > > > as a gang initiation and such. If > > > > you care about anyone, please forward this to them > > > immediately so they > > > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > > > read this, at least > > > > forward it to people. > > > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > > > police station, as a > > > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > > > phone calls > > > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > > > in the inner cities, > > > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > > > seems that a new form > > > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > > > as possible and put > > > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > > > This mixture is deadly > > > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > > > some people on the > > > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > > > poison and is easily > > > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > > > mixed with LSD, it > > > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > > > the human flesh, and > > > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > > > pay phone anywhere. > > > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > > > all. If you have any > > > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed > > > below. Please be very > > > > careful. Let your friends and family know about > > > this potential hazard. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:19:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9387 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:19:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 9376 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:19:48 -0000 Received: from f306.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.219) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:19:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 89022 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 18:19:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430181917.89021.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.62.238.124 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:19:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.62.238.124] From: "Jason Branch the Scarecrow Pyximhn" To: akp2@duke.edu, tsheets@saturn5.com Cc: jakeloco@rocketmail.com, WhrDaMud@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: New Urban Legend Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:19:17 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk M'K I did some reading, and apparently the stric9 is used as a preservative for the paper type of lisodysurgic acid, much the same way Vodka is used as a preservative for the liquid lisodysurgic acid. I like Vodka! P.S. do any of you have the correct spelling for lisodysurgic so as that I am able to add it to my spellcheck's database? going... going... I'm gone Jaw - Ta from Pyximhn >From: MacBunny >To: Troy Sheets >CC: Joaqman , WhrDaMud@aol.com, >sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: New Urban Legend >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:41:03 -0400 (EDT) > >then what causes poeple to feel really achy in their bones, muscles and >back when they eat paper, but not liquid? > >amber > >On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Troy Sheets wrote: > > > I am afraid you don't know what you are talking about. > > > > There is no strychinine in acid... even in blotters. Acid in > > its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into water to make > > the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into paper, the water > > evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. > > > > -troy > > > > > > > > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. > > > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the > > > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you > > > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts > > > everytime you take a blotter hit. > > > > > > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up > > > permanently, > > > freedom of choice, is what you got. > > > > > > joaqman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this > > > is the new legend going > > > > around i see > > > > > > > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth > > > passing on..... > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing > > > happening in communities > > > > as a gang initiation and such. If > > > > you care about anyone, please forward this to them > > > immediately so they > > > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't > > > read this, at least > > > > forward it to people. > > > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a > > > police station, as a > > > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many > > > phone calls > > > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen > > > in the inner cities, > > > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It > > > seems that a new form > > > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones > > > as possible and put > > > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. > > > This mixture is deadly > > > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed > > > some people on the > > > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat > > > poison and is easily > > > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When > > > mixed with LSD, it > > > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into > > > the human flesh, and > > > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a > > > pay phone anywhere. > > > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at > > > all. If you have any > > > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed > > > below. Please be very > > > > careful. Let your friends and family know about > > > this potential hazard. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks > > http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, >is the characteristic of one who knows." > >amber perry-mcquown > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu >amber@earthling.net >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:21:24 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10659 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:21:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 10547 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:21:20 -0000 Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:21:20 -0000 Received: from NEXXUS19@aol.com (3705) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNGQa02978 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:20:37 -0400 (EDT) From: NEXXUS19@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:20:37 EDT Subject: Underworld... To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk was absolutely amazing!!!!!! The energy was unbelievable-im speechless. Who else agrees who went? =Lauren From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:22:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12458 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:22:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 12434 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:22:23 -0000 Received: from f167.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.53) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:22:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 33923 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 18:29:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430182903.33922.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 165.85.166.74 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:29:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [165.85.166.74] From: "Wayne Radinsky" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: NRR: opening doors for people Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:29:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So I get up to go to the bathroom. And, ok the bathroom is in the hallway, and between the cubicles and the hallway there's a set of double doors. And as I'm approaching the doors, this woman comes through the doors from the other side, and she stops to hold the door open for me. The problem is, she holds it open like 3 inches. And I continue walking toward the door, thinking she'll realize this and just let go and keep walking, but she doesn't. I mean, I'd have to turn into be one of those life-sized cardboard posters of "star trek" characters to be able to fit through that tiny space. So I keep walking toward the door. And she just stands there, holding the door open this tiny amount. And as I get real close to the door, I give her one of those "hello" smiles. And go through the *other* door. What else was I supposed to do? Anyway, it's been a pretty exciting day here at work, now that this has happened. Who knows, maybe some other exciting event will occur this afternoon. I just had to share. So anyway, I'm not goin to anything this weekend, because I still have the awful cold I've had for the last 5 weeks. I can't rave when I'm sick, that will make the rave suck, even if it's cool. And I don't want to spread it around to everybody else. I think that's kind of impolite. I'm suffering from rave deprivation though. I gotta kick this thing, it's really annoying me. I've had 5 colds and the flu since Christmas. I had a cold over Christmas, too. This is just my year to get sick I guess... I don't know what the deal is. Ok I do know what the deal is, I started doing a lot more exercise (cardiokickboxing 4 days/week) and I'm not eating enough more food to handle it, so I get rundown and catch a cold all the time. And going to raves and hanging out in a hot sweaty warehouse with a few thousand people doesn't help. Hey Jess are you feeling better? I think I saw a post a while back where you were sick and watching MTV too much. Oh yeah, I gotta give mad congrats to my buddy Alex (Alknod) for landing a spinning gig! Way to go, pal!! When do I get that mixtape again?? :) Wayne From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:31:19 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19964 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:31:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 19923 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:31:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mi5.net5.com) (205.138.243.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:31:15 -0000 Received: from hrg.com (johnr.hrg.com [205.138.243.19]) by mi5.net5.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 239 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:28:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3729FA2D.7C3A720@hrg.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:45:01 -0700 From: "John Rodriguez" Reply-To: johnr@hrg.com Organization: Hire Resources Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: BSP: Full Moon Tonight... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey peeps! tonight is full moon...come on out and celebrate with us in the splendor of mother nature. We just added two more djs- Joeski from Chocolate Factory (NY, this guy is SICK), and Taj... call 415 339 8015 for info ITS FREE Ill be opening tonight...come up and say hi! :) John Rodriguez Balance Productions http://www.SFHouse.com JohnR@SFHouse.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:35:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23309 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:35:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 23298 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:35:36 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:35:36 -0000 Received: from JanetBoy7@aol.com (4534) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDGNa20982 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:34:33 -0400 (EDT) From: JanetBoy7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:34:22 EDT Subject: Encounters of the Cyberfest kind To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 188 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/30/99 6:24:06 PM, akp2@duke.edu writes: << because didn't cyberfest already happen? or are they really=20 having another?>> Yeah Cyberfest 98 already happened, but now it's time for Cyberfest 99, this=20 thing is gonna be HUGE!!!=20 =09Actually it's going to be Cyberfest on Tour, I think there are 3=20 dates so far. ~#*.:=95{LoVe JanetBoy}=95:.*#~=20 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:36:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24087 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:36:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 24007 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:36:08 -0000 Received: from galaxy.galstar.com (anarchy@204.251.80.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:36:08 -0000 Received: (from anarchy@localhost) by galaxy.galstar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20804 f0r sfraves@hyperreal.org; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:36:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "U.A.A." Posted-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:36:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199904301836.NAA20804@galaxy.galstar.com> Subject: SRR Strychnine (was A New Urban Legend) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:36:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I am subscribed to the digest so I didn't really get a chance to scan all the posts concerning this but come on kids. use your head. use your web browser and point to this http://www.hyperreal.org/drugs/psychedelics/lsd/strychnine there is no strychnine in blotter. plain and simple. stop perpetuating ignorance. peace, --Herb ------------------------------------------------------------------- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:37:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25466 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:37:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 25383 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:37:31 -0000 Received: from zahn.acpub.duke.edu (152.3.233.71) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:37:31 -0000 Received: from godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.46]) by zahn.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.0) with ESMTP id MAA16149; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akp2@localhost) by godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.7.1) id MAA01261; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:55:24 -0400 (EDT) From: MacBunny X-Sender: akp2@godzilla5.acpub.duke.edu To: XRictusx@aol.com cc: Pneyu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Encounters of the Cyberfest kind was Re: Chemical Brothers in San Ho? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think your sister's friend is confused (unless this happened before halloween 98) because didn't cyberfest already happen? or are they really having another? hmm... amber :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, is the characteristic of one who knows." amber perry-mcquown akp2@acpub.duke.edu amber@earthling.net amber@marin.cc.ca.us http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:40:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29689 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:40:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 29655 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:40:51 -0000 Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (128.11.23.63) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:40:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430184554.10128.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.86.13.14] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:45:54 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:45:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess ica Subject: Re: NRR: opening doors for people To: Wayne Radinsky , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Hey Jess are you feeling better? I think I saw a >post a while back where you were sick and watching MTV >too much. I am feeling great!!!!! I am feeling so great i dont know what to do with myself. I actually had some kind of tonsilitis crap i think it was strep throat. I drank a lot of tea while I was sick, and got rid of all the awful toxins, also try royal jelly it works well, it makes me happy and smiley, even when i was feeling crappy. live enzymes dancing around in my throat. But I am so over all of that sick stuff, it has A LOT to do with the mind, so try and get it off the mind, and watch it slowly disapear. and dont, whatever you do, watch MTV... Jessica ready to parte' at honey tonight, ready to party and dance and smile, and talk and be human this weekend YEAH! --- Wayne Radinsky wrote: > > So I get up to go to the bathroom. And, ok the > bathroom is in > the hallway, and between the cubicles and the > hallway there's > a set of double doors. And as I'm approaching the > doors, this > woman comes through the doors from the other side, > and she > stops to hold the door open for me. The problem is, > she holds > it open like 3 inches. And I continue walking > toward the door, > thinking she'll realize this and just let go and > keep walking, > but she doesn't. I mean, I'd have to turn into be > one of > those life-sized cardboard posters of "star trek" > characters > to be able to fit through that tiny space. So I > keep walking > toward the door. And she just stands there, holding > the door > open this tiny amount. And as I get real close to > the door, > I give her one of those "hello" smiles. And go > through the > *other* door. What else was I supposed to do? > Anyway, it's > been a pretty exciting day here at work, now that > this has > happened. Who knows, maybe some other exciting > event will > occur this afternoon. I just had to share. > > So anyway, I'm not goin to anything this weekend, > because > I still have the awful cold I've had for the last 5 > weeks. > I can't rave when I'm sick, that will make the rave > suck, even > if it's cool. And I don't want to spread it around > to everybody > else. I think that's kind of impolite. I'm > suffering from > rave deprivation though. I gotta kick this thing, > it's really > annoying me. I've had 5 colds and the flu since > Christmas. > I had a cold over Christmas, too. This is just my > year to get > sick I guess... I don't know what the deal is. Ok > I do know what > the deal is, I started doing a lot more exercise > (cardiokickboxing > 4 days/week) and I'm not eating enough more food to > handle it, so > I get rundown and catch a cold all the time. And > going to raves > and hanging out in a hot sweaty warehouse with a few > thousand people > doesn't help. Hey Jess are you feeling better? I > think I saw a > post a while back where you were sick and watching > MTV too much. > > Oh yeah, I gotta give mad congrats to my buddy Alex > (Alknod) > for landing a spinning gig! Way to go, pal!! When > do I get > that mixtape again?? :) > > Wayne > > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:45:38 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6588 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:45:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 6569 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:45:35 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:45:35 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (7811) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHRVa20662 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:41:31 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:42:03 EDT Subject: Re: SRR Strychnine (was A New Urban Legend) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The fact is you never know what your really getting unless you know who your getting it from. Everyone be safe and party responsibly. Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:51:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8821 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:51:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 8718 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:51:08 -0000 Received: from catbert.ucdavis.edu (root@169.237.105.32) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:51:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (sschumac@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by catbert.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/UCD3.13.10) with ESMTP id LAA08162; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:51:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Silvia Schumacher X-Sender: sschumac@catbert.ucdavis.edu To: NEXXUS19@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Underworld... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 NEXXUS19@aol.com wrote: > was absolutely amazing!!!!!! The energy was unbelievable-im speechless. Who > else agrees who went? Me!!! I guess these UK-guys rule!!! Silvia From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 18:57:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12858 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 18:57:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 12785 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 18:57:20 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:57:20 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15951 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990430120113.007f19d0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:01:13 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Re: New Urban Legend Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >From: MacBunny > >then what causes poeple to feel really achy in their bones, muscles and >back when they eat paper, but not liquid? > >amber > DONT EAT PAPER.... geez you people. You'll eat anything :/ I bet you walk around with those plastic bags from the cleaners over your heads too. And DO NOT tear off those little white tags on your mattress. You know you want to... but if you do alarms will go off and the Mattress Task Force will come to your house and force you to eat the mattress tag too... Love, Carly DOn't worry... I'm only slightly insane :P *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 19:03:06 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16752 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 19:02:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 16739 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 19:02:57 -0000 Received: from sol.tins.net (205.173.230.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 19:02:57 -0000 Received: from triadb.triad.com (triad.com [192.54.110.2]) by sol.tins.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA21544; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host135 (host135.vista.triad.com [159.66.161.135]) by triadb.triad.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA00539; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:00:31 GMT From: "MooK<><" To: "Carly Bourne" , "Supah Freaky Rabbit Jockeys" Subject: RE: NRR- New Urban Legend Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:07:54 -0700 Message-ID: <000d01be933c$c044ae80$87a1429f@host135.triad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.19990430120113.007f19d0@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org [mailto:sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org]On > Behalf Of Carly Bourne > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 12:01 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: New Urban Legend > > DOn't worry... I'm only slightly insane :P That makes you mostly normal, and WE DON'T LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE around here. ;-P By the way has anyone seen my baseball? 8) M<>< "Franks and Beans! Franks and Beans!" From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 19:05:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18270 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 19:05:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18249 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 19:05:44 -0000 Received: from wya-oe17.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.253.82) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 19:05:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 8408 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 19:07:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430190716.8407.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.204.84 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:07:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.204.84] From: "sHaWn ." To: stefango@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Pimpdaddy 3 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:07:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk The FreeBase Society that throws these partys are off the hook!!! I will be going there (New Orleans) once again to go to this party. anyone else from frisco? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 19:24:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28477 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 19:24:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 28457 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 19:24:43 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 19:24:43 -0000 Received: from speedy.excite.com ([199.172.152.78]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990430192411.CJRC7445.fortune@speedy.excite.com> for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:24:11 -0700 From: leslie.ayres@excite.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: some more "netiquette" reminders Message-Id: <925500251.8221.115@excite.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:24:11 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 205.149.4.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk someone posted a reminder that it is poor form to forward messages without cleaning them up.... removing the headers after headers after headers, etc.... i second that. please, if you think something's worth sharing with 500 people, you should think it's worth spending a couple of minutes cleaning up. (though frankly, i can't recall the last time i got a forward of a forward of a forward that said anything worth reading.... usually poor kid stories, urban myths, virus misinformation) ... also.... please when you reply to a message... DO NOT COPY the entire message and the message before it and the message before it.... again, if it's worth replying, it's worth taking a minute to clip the part you're addressing, and delete the rest.. (this is particularly annoying to those of us on the digest, because we get long volumes of copied stuff to scroll through) and.... use the return key. it's easy to find. it says "return" ... and if you hit it *twice* you actually get a blank space between *paragraphs* .... now, for those who are curious, *paragraphs* are the separations of thoughts in written text. they make it easier (in some cases, they actually make it *possible*) to read what you say... paragraphs separate your thoughts, and the separate pieces of your story. when you write a long message without paragraphs, and it runs on and on.... most of us simply cannot read it. it is visually too jumbled. so try the return key, you'll love it. you'll probably also find that it helps you think more clearly, because you will have to pay attention to the structure of what you're writing. brain-training. i won't say anything about stupid spellings and using mixed upper and lower case letters... because i think that people who write this way are probably sending messages to members of their little sub-tribe of which i am not a member. so no problem there... unless you actually wanted *others* to read what you said, in which case you might want to reconsider your writing style. u no, so us uther kEwl rAvErs grok u. but the all caps thing... stop. that's all for now.... see you all at the Harmonics Disco Biscuits tomorrow! leslie Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 19:41:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9329 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 19:41:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 9300 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 19:41:50 -0000 Received: from sos87.mry.redshift.com (HELO neptune.log) (209.54.206.87) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 19:41:50 -0000 Received: from pm4-110.mry.redshift.com by neptune.log with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id J63CRXRA; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:39:55 -0700 Message-ID: <002801be9341$7892da80$6ec9cccf@soscom.com> From: "Susan L. Gwartney" To: "SFRaves" Subject: liberty events (bsp) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:41:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE9306.CB6A9800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE9306.CB6A9800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you've missed getting info on any of the following events this = weekend: Honey Full Moon Acid Breaks Disco Biscuits HI! check out the liberty events page.. we've got info lines and flyers = posted. =20 http://liberty.ispree.net =3D)sooz aka libertygrl p.s. if you are a promoter and are interested in selling tickets to your event online, please contact me. susan@mindstudio.com libertygrl@go.com ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE9306.CB6A9800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE9306.CB6A9800-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 20:24:33 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5435 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 20:24:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 5423 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 20:24:30 -0000 Received: from netcom16.netcom.com (unclenoa@192.100.81.129) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 20:24:30 -0000 Received: (from unclenoa@localhost) by netcom16.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id NAA09506; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: unclenoah Subject: the real "Great Gas Out" site To: E-Bumpers By the Bay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk http://www.farts.com From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 21:04:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 603 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 21:04:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 577 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 21:04:07 -0000 Received: from law-f82.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.145) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 21:04:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10650 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 21:03:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430210340.10649.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 170.20.137.139 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:03:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [170.20.137.139] From: "Alknod !" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Thank you sooooo Much! Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:03:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I wanted to respond to everyone personally but there is simply no time, so here is a big THANK YOU ALL for your responces to my last post. If I had some energy out of getting this gig together for tonight, now I have even more, I am almost exploding here! I have a feeling that tonight is gonna go off the hook! I vetted my set last night and I think it will keep the energy levels high, even at 6am! Dance till ya drop! SO much positive energy I don't know what to do, it will not be wasted I assure you all, and as a result, I may have another gig tomorrow night, more on when I know more later! WOW HEHEHEHE, who needs drugs, thank you thank you alll! Alex...........Dalen From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 21:14:26 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5509 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 21:14:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5492 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 21:14:23 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 21:14:23 -0000 Received: from BodhiInSF@aol.com (8023) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDFWa16058 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:13:33 -0400 (EDT) From: BodhiInSF@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:13:32 EDT Subject: Where The Hell Has Bodhi Been? =) To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Some of you may have noticed that I've haven't been posting any long politicaly/socialy charged novels in a while. Some of you maybe saying... "right on!", hehehe! But anyway, I jusy wanted to give eveyone a GrEaT BiG cyber {{HUGS!!}} and let you know that Im still around. You know...you get a little computer burnt out, and you need to let it alone, kind of needing to chill in you own word for a while. But a big part of it has been that I was blessed with a ' 72 VW hatchback recently and I've been traveling around as much as I can, trying not to be home as much as possible. Got the traveling fever, like finaly getting wings and now Im able to fly away from Babylon! So, I've been able to hang and camp with my rainbow (hippie/deadhead) brothers & sisters under the beautiful red rocks of Sedona. Has anyone ever been to Sedona before? But, next month, I'll be driving up for Vlad's next party, and I'll be spinning there, wOoO-hOoUu!!! Got to intorduce my baby to the bay area. And when I move up there permantly sometime this fall, she maybe my little home for a while until I can get settled down. So, that's been my recent adventures and why I haven't been on as much and raising blood pressures! What's been up with you? Take care, and I wish all peace, love and {{hugs!}} ---Bodhi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 21:18:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8047 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 21:18:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 7996 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 21:18:14 -0000 Received: from galaxy.galstar.com (anarchy@204.251.80.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 21:18:13 -0000 Received: (from anarchy@localhost) by galaxy.galstar.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17637 f0r sfraves@hyperreal.org; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:18:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "U.A.A." Posted-Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:18:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199904302118.QAA17637@galaxy.galstar.com> Subject: What's up with Vestax? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:18:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk So I was checking out Tracoman's website today and ran across this. http://www.tracoman.com/vestax.html Seems very odd to me. Anyone have any more information? Thanks, --Herb ------------------------------------------------------------------- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 21:40:59 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22624 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 21:40:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 22610 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 21:40:54 -0000 Received: from dragon.ulink.net (209.160.21.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 21:40:54 -0000 Received: from ulink.net (max2-89.ulink.net [209.160.21.89]) by dragon.ulink.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id JW0KG9BF; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:41:28 -0700 Message-ID: <372A2275.CB16F50F@ulink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:36:54 -0700 From: Dragn'fly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Vestax PMC-15MKII Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey there y'all. I'm looking to upgrade my mixer and found this seemingly sweet mixer in one of my new catalogs. It's a full size, with -26/+4 eq's, balanced outs...yada-yada-yada. Hmmmmm....it's only $369 at the shop in town, but I don't know anyone who has ever used this particular model from Vestax. Hell, I love the PMC-17A, but the PFL switches annoy me to no end. I guess I should just get to the point of my post, heh??? I'm just wondering if any of you fellow spinsters out there have used the 15 or know of anybody who has, and if so, how does it perform??? They say you get what you pay for and $369 just sounds *cheap* as far as decent mixers go... Thanks a dollar... dina : ) From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 22:05:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8277 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 22:05:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 8266 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 22:05:39 -0000 Received: from law-f76.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.139) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 22:05:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 87255 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 22:05:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430220512.87254.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.173.232.212 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:05:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.173.232.212] From: "ro ro" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: ACID Breaks 3 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:05:11 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Yesh I will be at Acidic Backbreakers, doing the Curly shuffle all night in the larger than Home Base normal jungle room!!! Does anybody know the line-up for the jungle room? I wanna catch Rinse, Flux, Jamalski, Hak, and Siphon... They're the only royal junglists I recognize on the flyer. Hmmm... I wonder if I'll still be able to go to The Formula on the 15th... I better start collecting cans and stand on the corner with my cardboard sign. Anybody rollin to Home Base from SJ or the Pittsburg/Concord area? I think I'm hooked on Home Base... is that a bad thing? Rommel danglingfury@hotmail.com AOLIM: DaSaucey1 From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 22:17:36 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16272 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 22:17:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 15924 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 22:17:27 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 22:17:27 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA06499 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:16:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smx-ca8-48.ix.netcom.com(207.92.172.112) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006411; Fri Apr 30 17:16:03 1999 Message-ID: <372A255D.5F7D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:49:19 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [Fwd: Re: -- sat night's alright]--AllOnE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk No, there's one thing when someone likes your style, and they tell you in a normal tone of voice with undialated eyes and aren't breathing right in your face. And then there's people that are just mindlessly walking around, smiling oddly at everyone and just randomly start talking to someone. And when people that are phucked up compliment me, I do say thank you, I'm not a total bitch, but in my mind the question passes, 'would that person have come up to me if they weren't so high'? > yeah, i hate it when people like my style. geez, don't be so angry. > i think that compliments are a nice gesture. i like them. > and if you don't, just say "thank you" and move on. i don't > think anyone was intending to bug you. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 22:17:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16543 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 22:17:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 16369 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 22:17:36 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 22:17:36 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA06503 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:16:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smx-ca8-48.ix.netcom.com(207.92.172.112) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006459; Fri Apr 30 17:16:17 1999 Message-ID: <372A297A.28BE@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:06:50 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves peeps Subject: NRR:[Fwd: Help support gay advertizing] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk > > > > You may or may not be aware that Anheuser-Busch > > (Bud Light) has created > > an > > > ad depicting two men holding hands (first ever > > type > > of ad) with the > > > slogan, > > > "Be yourself and make it a Bud Light." It is a > > very welcome message from a very major advertiser. > > > Hundreds of calls have been received by Bud Light > > from callers AGAINST > > > this > > > ad. No doubt the fundamentalist Christian right > > organizations are > > already > > > organizing phone trees to flood Bud with calls > > objecting to the ad. > > > PLEASE HELP! TELL THEM THAT YOU APPLAUD THEIR > > TRIBUTE TO DIVERSITY. > > > CALL BUD LIGHT AT: 1-877-233-7725 to > > automatically > > register your approval > > > of > > > this campaign; > > > It's easy and takes about 5 seconds. > > > Please call today ... and forward this email to > > your gay and > > gay-friendly > > > family and friends. > > === From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 22:17:44 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16629 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 22:17:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 16456 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 22:17:38 -0000 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (206.214.98.10) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 22:17:38 -0000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA06486 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:16:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smx-ca8-48.ix.netcom.com(207.92.172.112) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006432; Fri Apr 30 17:16:09 1999 Message-ID: <372A25B0.16A8@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:50:42 -0800 From: Elizabeth Traver X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Honey References: <756B30A53DCBD111BABC00A0C981D46372AC3E@ASPEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I'm going From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 22:23:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22545 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 22:23:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 22189 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 22:23:12 -0000 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.4) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 22:23:12 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (327) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3FSUa25653 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:22:30 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <737eb869.245b8725@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:22:29 EDT Subject: raves and english lit.. =)humor To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk SO I am a TA for my english teacher, and today he was having me sort through some stories one of his classes had written and file them for school records or whatever. As I was going through the papers I found two of them that kind of caught my eye. One was a paper on Mars and Mystere as technoshamans and the other was a short story about these girls from my school at their first party. (I think it was a Man in the Moon) anyways.. I got to reading them and it was really interesting to see these perspectives. Made me laugh a little to see that they changed their names in the story and wrote about their new nicknames and stuff. OH well.. maybe you have to be me to appreciate it. hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 22:25:13 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24660 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 22:25:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 24651 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 22:25:10 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 22:25:10 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA23506; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:25:04 -0700 Message-ID: <00ec01be9358$7fa9eb80$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "MacBunny" Cc: Subject: Re: New Urban Legend Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:26:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk your mind. no, i'm sure there is some medical explanation, but try to think of your mind controlling your body, and the problem _just_ might go away... sain et sauf, alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: MacBunny To: Troy Sheets Cc: Joaqman ; WhrDaMud@aol.com ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 11:08 AM Subject: Re: New Urban Legend >then what causes poeple to feel really achy in their bones, muscles and >back when they eat paper, but not liquid? > >amber > >On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Troy Sheets wrote: > >> I am afraid you don't know what you are talking about. >> >> There is no strychinine in acid... even in blotters. Acid in >> its purest form is a crystal. It is dissolved into water to make >> the liquid. If you drop or soak this liquid into paper, the water >> evaperates, and the crystals stay on the paper. >> >> -troy >> >> > >> > strychnine is used to adhere LSD to blotter paper. >> > without strychnine the LSD would slip off the >> > blotter. no strychnine, no blotter hits. yes, you >> > ingest strychnine which is deadly in larger amounts >> > everytime you take a blotter hit. >> > >> > stik to liquid or gel or be like me and give it up >> > permanently, >> > freedom of choice, is what you got. >> > >> > joaqman >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---WhrDaMud@aol.com wrote: >> > > >> > > sorry this is a forrward that i just got but this >> > is the new legend going >> > > around i see >> > > >> > > Someone sent me this and I thought it was worth >> > passing on..... >> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > Hello, this is to warn every one of a new thing >> > happening in communities >> > > as a gang initiation and such. If >> > > you care about anyone, please forward this to them >> > immediately so they >> > > can learn of the possible harm. Even if you don't >> > read this, at least >> > > forward it to people. >> > > Hello, my name is Tina Strongman and I work at a >> > police station, as a >> > > phone operator for 911. Lately, we've received many >> > phone calls >> > > pertaining to a new sort of problem that has arisen >> > in the inner cities, >> > > and is now working it's way to smaller towns. It >> > seems that a new form >> > > of gang initiation is to go find as many pay phones >> > as possible and put >> > > a mixture of LSD and Strychnine onto the buttons. >> > This mixture is deadly >> > > to the human touch, and apparently, this has killed >> > some people on the >> > > east coast. Strychnine is a chemical used in rat >> > poison and is easily >> > > separated from the rest of the chemicals. When >> > mixed with LSD, it >> > > creates a substance that is easily absorbed into >> > the human flesh, and >> > > highly fatal. Please be careful if you are using a >> > pay phone anywhere. >> > > You may want to wipe it off, or just not use one at >> > all. If you have any >> > > questions, you can contact me at the links listed >> > below. Please be very >> > > careful. Let your friends and family know about >> > this potential hazard. >> > > Thank you. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >> tsheets@saturn5.com <- You have found me >> http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/audio <- my .mp3 tracks >> http://www.saturn5.com/tsheets/Casey3.wav <- Casey Kasem in rare form >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, >is the characteristic of one who knows." > >amber perry-mcquown > >akp2@acpub.duke.edu >amber@earthling.net >amber@marin.cc.ca.us > >http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 22:28:40 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26646 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 22:28:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 26624 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 22:28:37 -0000 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.65) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 22:28:37 -0000 Received: from TeKnODiVa@aol.com (327) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3RFIa24056 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:26:01 -0400 (EDT) From: TeKnODiVa@aol.com Message-ID: <3ad6d1ca.245b87db@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:25:31 EDT Subject: Re: Do you know what I look like. . . . To: SFraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/29/99 11:04:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JanetBoy7@aol.com writes: << <> HAhah Aryck and I were talking about this because I dont' know, the first time I met b))merang he told me he always thought I was like a six foot tall big mexican chick in black leather with a whip or something. Kind of got me thinking.... AND NO! that's not what I look like!! hugs n'stuff, trice the tekno diva From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 22:30:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27609 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 22:30:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 27560 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 22:30:14 -0000 Received: from atari.saturn5.com (204.107.140.9) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 22:30:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by atari.saturn5.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA22391; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:30:11 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-Sender: andy@atari To: "Dragn'fly" cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Vestax PMC-15MKII & Lame-o-BSP In-Reply-To: <372A2275.CB16F50F@ulink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a four part mail (none of which is really interesting): 1) Vestax Mixers 2) Honey Commentary 3) Garrett/DAT 4) Trainspotters and DJs On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Dragn'fly wrote: -&e->Hey there y'all. I'm looking to upgrade my mixer and found this -&e->seemingly sweet mixer in one of my new catalogs. It's a full size, -&e->with -26/+4 eq's, balanced outs...yada-yada-yada. Hmmmmm....it's only -&e->$369 at the shop in town, but I don't know anyone who has ever used this -&e->particular model from Vestax. Hell, I love the PMC-17A, but the PFL -&e->switches annoy me to no end. Lack of seperate out's that you can use for monitors are no picnic either (I end up using the effects send, which introduces new and strange problems like everybody who spins on my system turning off the effects loop and wondering why their monitors shut off). And not being able to control the blend in the headphones. But's it's cheap, has three band EQ on every channel, does the three deck thing, and has a short crossfader path with no volume dip in the middle, so I love it. Note: Rane has fixed the totally farking lame crossfader problem that has rendered their mixers unusable for years, so remember to consider them if you can afford it... and if you like the high end Vestaxes - a lot of DJs are selling PMC-05 Pro's for pretty cheap in order to buy the new 7's. -&e->I guess I should just get to the point of -&e->my post, heh??? I'm just wondering if any of you fellow spinsters out -&e->there have used the 15 or know of anybody who has, and if so, how does -&e->it perform??? They say you get what you pay for and $369 just sounds -&e->*cheap* as far as decent mixers go... The dark grey face Vestax is NOT the same quality as the pro-series product (gold and black face), but I totally endorse it as far as low cost gear goes. My only concern would be with what Herb just sent to the list, regarding the Tracoman/Vestax rift... and replacement parts for Vestax have been less than economical in my experience (could that be why they're not getting along?). That said, I am totally amped about tonight!!! I LOVE small parties, new locations, benefits for good causes, cheap tickets ($11!), parties that people have to drive to (it gets rid of the 'we're cool' element and leaves only those who came to have a damn good time and are willing to sweat a little to get the vibe going totally apeshit), and diverse lineups with a little bit of everything and Honey is ALL of these!!! I'll be the big dumb sweaty hippy at the decks around 2am, probably wearing a big yellow MUTOR shirt and dropping the mad techno nuttiness (including some great new stuff I picked up from Acid Junkies, SubVoice, ColdDust, a few mail order rarities I've been trying to land for a few months, and a little white label I just got last week from a prominent local techno militant *niceonethankyoumofo!*). See you there and most probably Disco Biscuits too!!! Peace, AndyW p.s. Garrett, write back if you still have that DAT deck. p.p.s. Whoever wrote about DJs having a problem with trainspotters... WTF!?!?! It's about MUSIC, and it's not YOUR music to keep secret (unless you actually wrote it). If it's good, share it!!! If someone wants to imitate, let them... it forces the people who are being imitated to keep ahead of the pack with their mixing, their style, their records. And if someone comes out spinning all the same records I do in a similar style, it doesn't make me look bad: they're the imitators!!! From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 22:43:18 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4032 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 22:43:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 4013 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 22:43:15 -0000 Received: from meat.hooked.net (HELO smtp.wenet.net) (206.80.6.50) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 22:43:15 -0000 Received: from fish.hooked.net (byoung@fish.hooked.net [206.80.6.48]) by smtp.wenet.net (8.9.0/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA10362; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: boing X-Sender: byoung@fish.hooked.net To: AndyW cc: "Dragn'fly" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Vestax PMC-15MKII & Lame-o-BSP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, AndyW wrote: > > Note: Rane has fixed the totally farking lame crossfader problem that has > rendered their mixers unusable for years, so remember to consider them if rane's new crossfader contour control is sweet - it's like having both rotary and lever crossfader active at the same time. also, level meter can be switched between L/R and cue/master - very helpful. not as cool as pioneer with a meter for each channel, but you get headphone cueing. happy hunting. b- ____ "Before you criticize, walk a mile in his shoes. Then, when you criticize, you will be a mile away, and you will have his shoes." From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:10:12 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16287 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:10:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 16268 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:10:06 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:10:06 -0000 Received: from Ravergrl27@aol.com (393) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vDJRa08652; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:09:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Ravergrl27@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:09:24 EDT Subject: Re: Encounters of the Cyberfest kind was Re: Chemical Brothers in SanHo? To: XRictusx@aol.com, Pneyu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/30/99 1:33:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, XRictusx@aol.com writes: << Needless to say I wanted to see a flyer for this baby, she said they didn't have flyers yet................... I don't know about u all, but I'll believe it when I see it, can we say MASSIVE massive, just thought I'd share ;] PLUR, Ryan >> Hi Ryan, Just to let you know there have been two flyers put out so far and they have one more to go. Just thought I would let you know. Chemical Brothers are going to be there! Take care.... =) Jeannie From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:15:42 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18995 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:15:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 18943 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:15:30 -0000 Received: from web503.yahoomail.com (HELO send501.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:15:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430231939.24309.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web503.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:19:39 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:19:39 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: METROPOLIS: if yur goin, read this first :) To: "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff Cc: "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Okay...i'm STILL going to Metropolis, but i'd just thought i'd let you guys know that it is a "gay" rave. Just check out this website: http://www.guspresents.com Someone told me that it was...but i didn't believe it until i checked out this site. Please don't take this email out of context...i'm not trying to persuade anyone to go to it and i'm not telling you to stay home, but if you're uncomfortable with it...maybe you should reconsider. sherri :) P.S. Hope to see some of you guys out at the M&M March ;p tomorrow!!! === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:31:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25105 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:31:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 25079 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:31:05 -0000 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (140.142.33.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:31:05 -0000 Received: from alcatraz (D-128-95-26-160.dhcp2.washington.edu [128.95.26.160]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA28801; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:30:56 -0700 Message-ID: <006001be9361$b301c120$a01a5f80@alcatraz> From: "Queen of Scots" To: "What is a dic-so bunny" , "=?iso-8859-1?B?SGlioFRhoERhoEhpYmJpZHmgSG9wIGFuZKBkYaBCb2Njb2xpIEJpZmY=?=" Cc: "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." Subject: Re: METROPOLIS: if yur goin, read this first :) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:32:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk thanks for the url!! those pics are great... now i got two hot guys (from 'gay day at waterworld') starin at me on my desktop... ok i know they aren't starin at me... but still, the more flesh, the better!! :) have a gay old day, alexis Queen of Scots, Princess of Charm -------------------------------------------- Whatever happened to the MC Times done changed for the MC Every woman and man wanna MC But for what, I'll tell ya MCin' ain't for you. -=- De La Sol -----Original Message----- From: What is a dic-so bunny To: Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop and da Boccoli Biff Cc: Da Sack A Tomatoes . Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 4:16 PM Subject: METROPOLIS: if yur goin, read this first :) >Okay...i'm STILL going to Metropolis, but i'd just >thought i'd let you guys know that it is a "gay" rave. > Just check out this website: > >http://www.guspresents.com > >Someone told me that it was...but i didn't believe it >until i checked out this site. > >Please don't take this email out of context...i'm not >trying to persuade anyone to go to it and i'm not >telling you to stay home, but if you're uncomfortable >with it...maybe you should reconsider. > >sherri :) > >P.S. Hope to see some of you guys out at the M&M >March ;p tomorrow!!! > > > >=== >Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:34:56 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27430 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:34:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 27398 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:34:51 -0000 Received: from f185.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.74) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:34:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 1707 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 23:32:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430233252.1706.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:32:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: sherbear_21@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: sacraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: METROPOLIS: if yur goin, read this first :) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:32:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey Sherri, It is not a "Gay Rave" metropolis is a themed night at one of the clubs in the city the party Metropolis is not affilated with the clock work orange or whatever there krew is called. They are two seperate events. Just to clear the Air. see ya, Macadio >From: What is a dic-so bunny >To: "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff >CC: "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." >Subject: METROPOLIS: if yur goin, read this first :) >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:19:39 -0700 (PDT) > >Okay...i'm STILL going to Metropolis, but i'd just >thought i'd let you guys know that it is a "gay" rave. > Just check out this website: > >http://www.guspresents.com > >Someone told me that it was...but i didn't believe it >until i checked out this site. > >Please don't take this email out of context...i'm not >trying to persuade anyone to go to it and i'm not >telling you to stay home, but if you're uncomfortable >with it...maybe you should reconsider. > >sherri :) > >P.S. Hope to see some of you guys out at the M&M >March ;p tomorrow!!! > > > >=== >Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:35:51 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28375 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:35:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 28239 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:35:45 -0000 Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.67) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:35:45 -0000 Received: from BryanLee21@aol.com (327) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vRAUa16060 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:34:20 -0400 (EDT) From: BryanLee21@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:34:19 EDT Subject: BSP Vibe Creation-Bryan Lee To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey all, I will also be spinning at Vibe creation 2 tomorrow when I return from LA. There is an awesome line up. House legend Traxx will be there and one of my favorites Justin Long will be playing. Its definately a party you dont want to miss. Bryan Lee Global Energy Musik From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:35:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28584 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:35:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 28477 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:35:52 -0000 Received: from mail.healthoutcomes.com (HELO marketing.healthoutcomes.com) (209.24.3.130) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:35:52 -0000 Received: from nngo ([209.24.3.157]) by marketing.healthoutcomes.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 103-48930U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA299 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:44:21 -0700 Message-ID: <010101be9361$f1f79d00$9d0318d1@ssimarkfmt> From: nngo@velos.com (Nick Ngo) To: Subject: directions to HI Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:34:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FE_01BE9327.45340FC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FE_01BE9327.45340FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI everyone, Does anyone know the directions to HI? I been trying to call and its = busy...its at a warehouse off of bayshore....anyone has a clue?? Nick ------=_NextPart_000_00FE_01BE9327.45340FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Does anyone know the directions to=20 HI?   I been trying to call and its busy...its at a warehouse = off of=20 bayshore....anyone has a clue??
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00FE_01BE9327.45340FC0-- From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:35:58 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28694 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:35:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 28245 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:35:45 -0000 Received: from web503.yahoomail.com (HELO send501.yahoomail.com) (128.11.68.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:35:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430233955.26124.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.119.128.253] by web503.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:39:55 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: What is a dic-so bunny Subject: METROPOLIS: If yur goin...don't read my last post!!!!! To: "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." Cc: "Hib Ta Da Hibbidy Hop" "and da Boccoli" Biff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk okay...ignore my last post about metropolis...PLEASE!!! I'm a moron!!! I'm sorry!!! Quit lashing me with your wet noodles!!!! its not a gay rave!! its not a gay rave!!! its not a gay rave!!! do you feel better now?? === Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:38:10 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1003 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:38:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 987 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:38:06 -0000 Received: from mail.brainstorm.net (root@205.164.112.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:38:06 -0000 Received: from pgmxchg.PGMUSA.COM ([170.1.43.3]) by mail.brainstorm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03503 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by PGMXCHG with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:33:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: Naomi Thompson To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" Subject: NRR: I QUIT!!! Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:33:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Hey everyone. I don't know weather you care or not. I quit my job, so don't email me here anymore, seeing as it's not going to get to me anyway. My email at home is: naomi0211@aol.com I'll be using that one from now on I guess!! Hugs Naomi From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:41:48 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3509 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:41:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 3490 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:41:45 -0000 Received: from law-f86.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (209.185.131.149) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:41:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 62058 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 23:41:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430234118.62057.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.252.208.25 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:41:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.252.208.25] From: "K Gray" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Underworld... Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:41:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >was absolutely amazing!!!!!! The energy was unbelievable-im speechless. Who >else agrees who went? Absolutely intense. People were dancing all the way to the back of the theatre. And the crowd was great. People go to a club or a party for many different reasons, ie to hook up, to dance, to take drugs, etc., so, sometimes, you meet people who are there for reasons which directly conflict with your own, ie, strung out people in front of the speaker where you want to dance, some guy trying to grab your butt when you give him a friendly smile, etc. But last night, everyone was there for the music. Or seemed to be. Sign of an undercover raver: I turned to the guy dancing next to me and offered him some of my beer. I started laughing when I realized that only a raver would offer to share a drink with a stranger just because we had been dancing next to each other. And only a raver would accept! Just to test my theory, I offered my beer to another guy, but he looked at me like I was a nut. Taking it to the streets, K From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Apr 30 23:42:41 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4241 invoked by uid 6000); 30 Apr 1999 23:42:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 4227 invoked from network); 30 Apr 1999 23:42:37 -0000 Received: from f217.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.108) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 23:42:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 65252 invoked by uid 0); 30 Apr 1999 23:42:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990430234210.65251.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.79.117.9 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:42:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.79.117.9] From: "Macadio G." To: andy@saturn5.com, dlammon@ulink.net Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Vestax PMC-15MKII & Lame-o-BSP Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:42:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hahahah *Points finger at AndyCandyW* I got both of those subvoices, and the white label before you did.. nananananana.... See ya tonight, Macadio >From: AndyW >To: "Dragn'fly" >CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Vestax PMC-15MKII & Lame-o-BSP >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:30:11 -0700 (PDT) > > >This is a four part mail (none of which is really interesting): > >1) Vestax Mixers >2) Honey Commentary >3) Garrett/DAT >4) Trainspotters and DJs > >On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Dragn'fly wrote: > >-&e->Hey there y'all. I'm looking to upgrade my mixer and found this >-&e->seemingly sweet mixer in one of my new catalogs. It's a full size, >-&e->with -26/+4 eq's, balanced outs...yada-yada-yada. Hmmmmm....it's >only >-&e->$369 at the shop in town, but I don't know anyone who has ever used >this >-&e->particular model from Vestax. Hell, I love the PMC-17A, but the PFL >-&e->switches annoy me to no end. > >Lack of seperate out's that you can use for monitors are no picnic either >(I end up using the effects send, which introduces new and strange >problems like everybody who spins on my system turning off the effects >loop and wondering why their monitors shut off). And not being able to >control the blend in the headphones. But's it's cheap, has three band EQ >on every channel, does the three deck thing, and has a short crossfader >path with no volume dip in the middle, so I love it. > >Note: Rane has fixed the totally farking lame crossfader problem that has >rendered their mixers unusable for years, so remember to consider them if >you can afford it... and if you like the high end Vestaxes - a lot of DJs >are selling PMC-05 Pro's for pretty cheap in order to buy the new 7's. > >-&e->I guess I should just get to the point of >-&e->my post, heh??? I'm just wondering if any of you fellow spinsters >out >-&e->there have used the 15 or know of anybody who has, and if so, how does >-&e->it perform??? They say you get what you pay for and $369 just sounds >-&e->*cheap* as far as decent mixers go... > >The dark grey face Vestax is NOT the same quality as the pro-series >product (gold and black face), but I totally endorse it as far as low cost >gear goes. My only concern would be with what Herb just sent to the list, >regarding the Tracoman/Vestax rift... and replacement parts for Vestax >have been less than economical in my experience (could that be why >they're not getting along?). > >That said, I am totally amped about tonight!!! I LOVE small parties, new >locations, benefits for good causes, cheap tickets ($11!), parties that >people have to drive to (it gets rid of the 'we're cool' element and >leaves only those who came to have a damn good time and are willing to >sweat a little to get the vibe going totally apeshit), and diverse lineups >with a little bit of everything and Honey is ALL of these!!! > >I'll be the big dumb sweaty hippy at the decks around 2am, probably >wearing a big yellow MUTOR shirt and dropping the mad techno nuttiness >(including some great new stuff I picked up from Acid Junkies, SubVoice, >ColdDust, a few mail order rarities I've been trying to land for a few >months, and a little white label I just got last week from a prominent >local techno militant *niceonethankyoumofo!*). > >See you there and most probably Disco Biscuits too!!! > >Peace, >AndyW > >p.s. Garrett, write back if you still have that DAT deck. > >p.p.s. Whoever wrote about DJs having a problem with trainspotters... >WTF!?!?! It's about MUSIC, and it's not YOUR music to keep secret (unless >you actually wrote it). If it's good, share it!!! If someone wants to >imitate, let them... it forces the people who are being imitated to keep >ahead of the pack with their mixing, their style, their records. And if >someone comes out spinning all the same records I do in a similar style, >it doesn't make me look bad: they're the imitators!!! > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 00:03:45 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11551 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 00:03:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 11540 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 00:03:39 -0000 Received: from ns1.mogwaicom.net (HELO mogwaicom.net) (root@216.101.174.3) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 00:03:39 -0000 From: "vipassana" Subject: NRR:::: Pagging Indigo-Phillip!!! To: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.2.9b5 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:02:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I need to locate Indigo (Phillip). Anyone seen him latly? Do you have any of his contact information? Please Help, Quite important! Matt Downer From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 00:08:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14377 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 00:08:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 14314 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 00:08:11 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 00:08:11 -0000 Received: from Brikne@aol.com (4532) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rEHCa20981; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:06:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Brikne@aol.com Message-ID: <6f89570c.245b9f72@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:06:10 EDT Subject: Re: METROPOLIS: if yur goin, read this first :) To: sherbear_21@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk i think youll find that metropolis is a gay club in the city thats been there for awhile... it is different than the upcomming rave. =) I encourage everyone to go to both hahahaha hugs and cheers... Brian so in other words, the rave will be "straight"?!? From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 00:11:54 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15906 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 00:11:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 15898 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 00:11:51 -0000 Received: from f176.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.62) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 00:11:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 94539 invoked by uid 0); 1 May 1999 00:18:47 -0000 Message-ID: <19990501001847.94538.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.152.187.133 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:18:47 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.152.187.133] From: "Toshi Musha" To: etraver@ix.netcom.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Honey Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:18:47 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk so am i... toshi >From: Elizabeth Traver >To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Honey >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:50:42 -0800 > >I'm going > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 00:20:46 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18199 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 00:20:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 18191 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 00:20:41 -0000 Received: from f158.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.37) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 00:20:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 91299 invoked by uid 0); 1 May 1999 00:18:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990501001807.91298.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.86.40.91 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:18:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.86.40.91] From: "becky thorton" To: tosh_yosh@hotmail.com, etraver@ix.netcom.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Honey Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:18:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk mee too :) love n plur becky From: "Toshi Musha" To: etraver@ix.netcom.com, SFRaves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Honey Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:18:47 PDT so am i... toshi >From: Elizabeth Traver >To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: Honey >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:50:42 -0800 > >I'm going > > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 00:25:55 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20752 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 00:25:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 20727 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 00:25:51 -0000 Received: from firstclass.monterey.edu (HELO mail.monterey.edu) (198.189.5.44) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 00:25:51 -0000 Message-id: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:48:56 -0700 Subject: Final BSP Honey tonight! Cc: sacraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Robert_Delarosa@monterey.edu (Robert Delarosa) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Tonight is the night Honey in Monterey $10 Tix at the door and at solid grooves Visuals by Viberation and Cloudfactory Sound by Math and Sound Workshop Free Chai By Nub Chai Free Fruit By my wallet Free water This is a Benefit for Theatre a theatre group at Cal State Monterey Bay (hint hint) This is a virgin location...show up at 9:30 and please respect our location so we can use it again! Line Up: Room 1: A.L.E.R, Ikon, Amber, Jeph, Andy W (Viberation), Joaqman, and Ryan Christopher. Room 2: Mike Wilson, Drone, Meadow, Hak (Urban Assault), Siphon (Urban Assault), Mark Clark, Pengo, and Christopher Leath. 408.682.3500. From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 00:27:35 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21614 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 00:27:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 21597 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 00:27:30 -0000 Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.66) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 00:27:30 -0000 Received: from BigM009@aol.com (14372) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iJREa08655; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:21:47 -0400 (EDT) From: BigM009@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:21:41 EDT Subject: Re: Honey To: becky17f@hotmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Me three. :) Peace, M From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 01:15:15 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8075 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 01:15:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 8066 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 01:15:12 -0000 Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.70) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 01:15:12 -0000 Received: from Aryck46@aol.com (8028) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3BUUa20663 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:13:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Aryck46@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:13:57 EDT Subject: Anyone want to go to that full moon party ??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk I was just wondering. . . I wanted to be outdoors tonight, so. . . it'll be a beautiful night. I'm just looking for some groovy person to go with (take) or a couple who live anywhere between oakland to hayward from fremont or on the way to wherever, , , Just mail me back. . . . or page me at (510) 987.5003 I'll check my mail in a hour or so. . . LuvYall. . . Aryck From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 01:31:43 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12212 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 01:31:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 12199 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 01:31:40 -0000 Received: from f230.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (207.82.251.121) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 01:31:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 38089 invoked by uid 0); 1 May 1999 01:31:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990501013106.38088.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 153.37.7.194 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:31:05 PDT X-Originating-IP: [153.37.7.194] From: "Natasha 426" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Anyone need HI presales? Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:31:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Gimmie a page @ (650) 373-9719 hugs ;) natasha From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 02:01:22 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17614 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 02:01:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 17606 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 02:01:17 -0000 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (128.32.25.39) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 02:01:17 -0000 Received: from pri-92-63 (pri-92-63.Reshall.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.92.63]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA28365 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990430190518.007e9510@uclink4.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: cbourne@uclink4.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:05:18 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Carly Bourne Subject: Enlighten me please! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Quick question: If anyone has the voicemail to the Lunar Enlightenment party, could you please email me privately with the info... I can't find my flyer... I know, I know... I'm a dumbass... anyways. Thanks in advance. Love, Carly *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Carly Bourne------> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/1273 BareStage Online--> http://www.sma.berkeley.edu/ucchoral/barestage From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 02:05:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20738 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 02:05:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 20721 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 02:05:48 -0000 Received: from south-station-annex.mit.edu (HELO MIT.EDU) (18.72.1.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 02:05:48 -0000 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA28720; Fri, 30 Apr 99 22:05:42 EDT Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA24725 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from benchun (BENCHUN.MIT.EDU [18.207.0.48]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA00269 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990430220253.00b93840@po8.mit.edu> X-Sender: benchun@po8.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:05:14 -0400 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: b e n c h u n Subject: Best of SFR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk first in a series of what, IMHO, are the highlights of the list in recent past... everyone feel free to jump in. >From: "Faro" >To: "SFRaves" >Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 01:18:04 +0000 >Subject: A poem for you > >A poem for you. > >Some say they go for the music, >The pounding of the bass. >Dancing to the rhythm.. >With smiles on their face. > >Some say they go for the friends, >Their laughter echos through the halls. >All glitter and hugs and chatter.. >Sitting bunched in groups along walls. > >Some say they go for the drugs, >Enhancing their moods at will. >Finding that there is more to life.. >If it comes from inside a pill. > >Some people like it inside, >With lasers and lights as their sky. >Crowded together in darkness.. >In rooms that are warm and dry. > >Some people like it in nature, >They want to feel the rain on their face. >Under the stars in the cold night air.. >Snug in a warm embrace. > >Some people now worry and wonder, >Why doesn't it all fall apart? >It's the open acceptance, the diversity of thought.. >And the love that comes from our heart. > >-Faro . . . . . . . benchun@mit.edu http://mdma.mit.edu/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 02:15:28 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25987 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 02:15:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 25970 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 02:15:21 -0000 Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (HELO MIT.EDU) (18.69.0.28) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 02:15:21 -0000 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA02176; Fri, 30 Apr 99 22:15:22 EDT Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA24892 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from benchun (BENCHUN.MIT.EDU [18.207.0.48]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA00464 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990430221425.0255c220@po8.mit.edu> X-Sender: benchun@po8.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:14:53 -0400 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: b e n c h u n Subject: Best of SFR 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk >Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:24:35 -0800 (PST) >From: *byroni* >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: POEM4U: Aquacube.. > > >Aquacube > >Seamless I glide through the liquid >Sun light creates prisms across my body >Eyes shut I feel the warm glow of the sun caressing me >Warm smiles dance across my soul >Simplicity is what describes this existence >For I am fondly reminded of my past ways >Swimming through sky beams I slip into consciousness >Waking to a deep blue sky and an existence I have chosen for myself >Timelessly the one I love appears before me >We are face to face as her warm hair glides across the tip of my nose and >lips >She blocks the deep blue sky from direct view giving me a perfect >glimpse of her beautiful eyes and magical smile >Our lips meet at the point of infinity that is true love >Moments later we are in a deep blue pool of emotion swimming as dolphins >dreaming of the moments we are currently sharing as two humans in love > > >Byron....... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . benchun@mit.edu http://mdma.mit.edu/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 02:22:32 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 557 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 02:22:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 548 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 02:22:29 -0000 Received: from south-station-annex.mit.edu (HELO MIT.EDU) (18.72.1.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 02:22:29 -0000 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA00842; Fri, 30 Apr 99 22:22:26 EDT Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA25036 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from benchun (BENCHUN.MIT.EDU [18.207.0.48]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA00634 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990430222110.00d58c60@po8.mit.edu> X-Sender: benchun@po8.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:22:01 -0400 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: b e n c h u n Subject: Best of SFR 3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk switching from poetry to the essay format... >From: "Eric Moser" >To: "*Rave Friends*" >Subject: RE: Stupidity & the Culture War (was: my frustration...) >Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 10:29:39 -0700 > > >First of all, GREAT post Starchild!! > >> >> Although I'm in sympathy with Steve's sentiments, I think a more >> accurate description of the problem Trice (and Ryan, aka Drakhonis >> Darkheart?) are/were experiencing would be not stupidity, but >> insensitivity. >> > >Good call. In honesty, I think either stupidity or insensitivity or both >can manifest in some of the things that we're describing as irritating, >etc... > > >> The anti-intellectual outlook seems to be fairly popular, judging >> by contemporary American culture. (It has been observed, for instance, >> that we once elected leaders who enjoyed pastimes like reading poetry or >> pursuing science, whereas today they're more likely to prefer reading >> football scores and pursuing women.) It may be unfair to give a >> person too >> much credit for possessing natural intelligence -- or beauty, for that >> matter -- but if you must go one way or the other it is much better to >> praise the smart and the beautiful than the stupid and the ugly. If we >> make the stupid and the ugly our standards, we're not doing much to evolve >> or elevate humanity (e.g. Jerry Springer.) >> > >What do we credit this change to? Why don't we look for more intellectual >leaders and politicians? Is it that we cannot identify with them? Is it >that we don't want anyone smarter than us running the show? If so, why did >it used to be different? I sense something potentially important in the >answer... > > > >> If you wish to understand the *real* culture war, watch the film >> "Dead Poet's Society". It has absolutely nothing, yet absolutely >> everything to do with raves and rave culture, imho. Knowing yourself has >> got to be one of the most important yet most difficult tasks that each of >> us faces in life. > >YES!! Knowing yourself is the key to everything. Recognizing your reasons >for doing some of the things you do (good or bad) helps you to be a more >real, more honest, more dynamic person. Your responses and actions are >based on what you really feel, rather than what you were taught, what you >were made to believe by protective/conservative parents, lame teachers, >unethical politicians, and the like. > >We have to realize that each one of us has had unique and crazy experiences. >That guy who sits next to you in class, or in the cubible across from you at >the office isn't necessarily a jerk because he wants to be. His dad might >have been an insensitive lout who taught him bad lessons as a kid, who never >taught him sensitivity -- at best -- and the guy just doesn't know any >better!! He is simply incapable of thinking like you, because he never >learned to think for himself or break out of the thought patterns that he >became accustomed to. We all realize that we're the sum of our experiences, >but we fail to realize just how fundamentally important EACH AND EVERY >experience we have is later in life. > >We're the products of a middle america that is fraught with neuroses and >trauma, raised in a time of modern technology and communication that only >served to spread these neuroses and traumas as a virus. I think it is a >wonder that we're not all screwed up beyond repair!!! > >And so, the best -- perhaps only -- way to fight this is to know yourself. >Realize what is motivating you to do the things you do and act the way you >act. Once you realize the 'why', doing these things is a decision not an >impulse. > >Peace all! Great topic... > >-eric . . . . . . . benchun@mit.edu http://mdma.mit.edu/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 02:31:08 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2466 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 02:31:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 2456 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 02:31:00 -0000 Received: from south-station-annex.mit.edu (HELO MIT.EDU) (18.72.1.2) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 02:31:00 -0000 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA01885; Fri, 30 Apr 99 22:30:57 EDT Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA25235 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from benchun (BENCHUN.MIT.EDU [18.207.0.48]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA00862 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990430222932.02609a60@po8.mit.edu> X-Sender: benchun@po8.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:30:31 -0400 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: b e n c h u n Subject: Best of SFR 4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hey does anyone know where Minh is right now? on some world tour, or something? >Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:56:55 -0700 (PDT) >From: "Minh Q. Le" >To: SFRAVES , > Ravers in the Southland >Subject: A Poem from Me!!! (RE: Epiphany) > > >_May 29, 1998_ > > >Circular dances >one step, two step, three >like burning embers swirling higher >lauging faces glisten and waver >The musical melodies with ocean >swells and zephyr gyres >Is that your personality >I see? >Or slow lovely glances >borrowed from someone's ecstasy? >Surrounded by friends >and the sometime stranger >I listen to a mindless whisper >as bongo drums and vynil scratches >help two pairs of lips make amends >under velvet skies and a starry manger >while shuffling sands sigh moist lispers >between people gathered in intermittent patches >Dilated pupils and your own little world >I play your games and offer to hold >your hands in mine when you feel cold >little raver-child your happiness >brightens my day >forgive my lectures, I want you to see >please try a party with sobriety >tonight there were no emergencies >no Red-Cross sirens >or violent wounds, nor sightless eyes; >convulsing limbs trapped in imagined rooms >but as it should be >a safe haven for strangers like you and me >Share my little world and you will see >this has been a special Epiphany! > > > >:) >M&m > > . . . . . . . benchun@mit.edu http://mdma.mit.edu/ From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 03:20:14 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14855 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 03:20:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 14847 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 03:20:08 -0000 Received: from fletch.fix.net (telkionish@206.190.71.1) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 03:20:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (telkionish@localhost) by fletch.fix.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA20968; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:20:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Adair To: MacBunny cc: XRictusx@aol.com, Pneyu@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: Encounters of the Cyberfest kind was Re: Chemical Brothers in San Ho? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk They have cyberfests all the time... They had one last halloween.. they were going to have one about a year and a few months before that but it got cancelled at the last minute (and the sneaker pimps were gonna be there)... I heard of a cyberfest back in '92... they are everywhere... Everybody and their mom seems to be promoting for these events though... My college radio station were even giving away tickets all the way down here in San Luis Obispo.. Gregery On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, MacBunny wrote: > i think your sister's friend is confused (unless this happened before > halloween 98) because didn't cyberfest already happen? or are they really > having another? > > hmm... > amber :) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Confucious said "To know what you know, and to know what you don't know, > is the characteristic of one who knows." > > amber perry-mcquown > > akp2@acpub.duke.edu > amber@earthling.net > amber@marin.cc.ca.us > > http://www.duke.edu/~akp2 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 03:56:34 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24338 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 03:56:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 24330 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 03:56:31 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (208.136.106.6) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 03:56:31 -0000 Received: from mail.netwiz.net (shell.netwiz.net [208.136.106.4]) by mail.netwiz.net (8.9.2/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA08933 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905010356.UAA08933@mail.netwiz.net> To: "San FranDisco Ravers List" Subject: dearth of outdoor daytime parties? Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:56:28 -0700 From: "Niels P. Mayer" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk Next sunset isn't for over 2weeks... Where's da daytime party with the mad-fresh funky-fried spinning and dancing? :-) PS: when all the DJ's are playing off of Rio-Like didgital dex, are people still going to say "who's spinning?" ?? Or will they say who is performing interleaved sequential accesses with low CAS2 latency?? Enquiring people want to know.... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Niels Mayer (npm@netwiz.net) http://www.cybertribe.com/mayer << >> PGP fingerprint = 2C 78 2F 01 B0 5C B1 17 49 17 3D 50 FE AE 2A 4A << =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 04:40:52 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4650 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 04:40:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 4555 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 04:40:48 -0000 Received: from dragon.ulink.net (209.160.21.5) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 04:40:48 -0000 Received: from hp-customer (max2-81.ulink.net [209.160.21.81]) by dragon.ulink.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id JW0KHAQQ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:41:22 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990430213648.0082b3e0@sol.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: ez053642@sol.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:36:48 -0700 To: What is a dic-so bunny , "Da Sack A Tomatoes ." From: "Terri E. Young" Subject: Re: METROPOLIS: If yur goin...don't read my last post!!!!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <19990430233955.26124.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk hee hee don't worry Sherbear!! It's all good. I hereby declare Sherbear and Fengfire Mike absolved of any and all negative statements directed at them heretofore regarding raveness and gayness. : D Plus.....Every rave is a gay rave for me!! tee hee At 04:39 PM 4/30/99 -0700, What is a dic-so bunny wrote: >okay...ignore my last post about >metropolis...PLEASE!!! I'm a moron!!! I'm sorry!!! >Quit lashing me with your wet noodles!!!! > >its not a gay rave!! its not a gay rave!!! its not a >gay rave!!! do you feel better now?? > >=== >Fievel and Dinky Little SUCK DONKEY >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 05:41:53 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16687 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 05:41:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 16678 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 05:41:50 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 05:41:50 -0000 Received: from Megatron45@aol.com (3701) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHLDa20980; Sat, 1 May 1999 01:41:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Megatron45@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:41:04 EDT Subject: bps:HIP HOP IN THE PARK To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org, sf-jungle@saturn5.com, paris81@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk check this out yall... going down saturday may 1st from 12 to 5 pm is the 3rd Annual Hip Hop in the Park in the city of berkeley. this takes place at Peoples Park right behind Aomeba Records in berkeley. its right near Telegraph. this is the line up... MAY 1 HIP HOP IN THE PARK PEOPLE'S PARK, BERK feat. shingo, bored stiff, sole, kirby dominant earthlings&tom ramen, universal figures, english league, dj's and more.. and this is for the afterparty in kensington. i dont know where it is but its probly gonna be advertised at the park... MAY 1 HIP HOP IN THE PARK AFTER PARTY PORTO BRAZIL, KENSG. well if u guys want to meet me most likely i will be wearing some brown damani dada cargos and maybe my grey&orange ecko unlimited coat. or look for my TRUE record bag. peace DJMEGATRON:mechasoul From sfraves-owner-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat May 01 05:51:27 1999 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18189 invoked by uid 6000); 1 May 1999 05:51:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 18181 invoked from network); 1 May 1999 05:51:22 -0000 Received: from proxy3.ba.best.com (root@206.184.139.14) by taz.hyperreal.org with SMTP; 1 May 1999 05:51:22 -0000 Received: from [209.157.52.83] (dynamic19.pm02.east-bay.best.com [209.157.52.83]) by proxy3.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id WAA09214; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:49:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: sftrance@shell18.ba.best.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3ad6d1ca.245b87db@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="============_-1286580940==_============" Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:52:32 -0800 To: TeKnODiVa@aol.com From: MODA Subject: Re: Do you know what I look like. . . . Cc: SFraves@hyperreal.org Sender: sfraves-owner@hyperreal.org Precedence: bulk --============_-1286580940==_============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OK, everyone....for those of you who have the means, send us your most recent picture of ya, in jpeg format preferably.... Here's me! 8) MODA --============_-1286580940==_============ Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="ERIC_IN_TORN_UP_STUDIO_4=10=99." ; x-mac-type="4A504547" ; x-mac-creator="3842494D" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ERIC_IN_TORN_UP_STUDIO_4=10=99." 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